Alec Baldwin Talks 30 Rock, Fatherhood, Trial

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• 1:04Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, I know people who I won't name who took the money they made. And it might not have been hundreds of millions of dollars in fees, like Leo or whatever. But there's people I know who made less money in fees, but they invested that money. Acting fees, your fee.

• 1:19Adam Friedland?

  Oh, like SAG. Oh, fees like when you get on a movie.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. You make a movie and you get paid. You know, you're doing Tom Cruise. You get $50 million.

• 1:27Adam Friedland?

  You just say the words, right? And you get $50 million?

• 1:30Speaker 01

  No, no, no. He does a lot more than that for $50 million.

• 1:32Adam Friedland?

  Do you have Tom Cruise?

• 1:33Speaker 01

  Do I have Tom's number?

• 1:34Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:35Speaker 01

  I have his sister's number.

• 1:36Adam Friedland?

  You have his sister's?

• 1:36Speaker 01

  But if I call her.

• 1:37Adam Friedland?

  Who's she?

• 1:38Speaker 01

  Who's she?

• 1:38Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:39Speaker 01

  She's Tom's sister.

• 1:40Adam Friedland?

  Wow.

• 2:12Speaker 03

  Hello and welcome back to The Adam Friedland Show. I'm Adam Friedland. Guys, big episode today, but before we start, I'm going back on the road. Emerald City Comedy Club, Seattle, Washington, January 23rd. Oh, fuck. I did the dates wrong. Seattle, Washington, January 22nd, 23rd, 24th. I'm with Caleb Pitts. The man that is, he's sick today. I'm doing five shows. Get tickets at emeraldcitycomedy.com. There's also a link in the description of this video. I'd like to thank, first off, as always, our members for supporting us here on youtube.com. You make this show possible. Members get access to all of our episodes early,

• 2:55Speaker 03

  and if you join at the second or third tiers, you get your name in the credits of this fine program. If you'd like to join the Friedland Family Foundation, you could do so by clicking the "Join" button here on YouTube, or by clicking the link in the description below. And you could also support us on Patreon if you'd prefer. The link for that is also in the description. And by Friedland Family Foundation, I don't mean anyone from my family. You know who you are. Guys, merch is also available. TheAdamFriedlandShow, check it out. We have a new shirt that says, "Keep calm, listen to The Adam Friedland Show." It's gonna be, it's, do we? That's funny that Caleb put it in there. I'm doing another one of those Caleb writes it and I react, uh, for the first time. It's a fun game that the people love.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  My guest this week is the legendary American actor Alec Baldwin. Mr. Baldwin is known for many roles over the years, but perhaps his most iconic is his turn as Blake, the chastising associate sent to motivate the poor salesman of, oh, was that his name, Blake? Sent to motivate the salesman of Glengarry Glen Ross. His name was Blake? Did you know that? He didn't seem like a Blake.

• 4:04Speaker 00

  He was a made-up character. They just gave him a last name, but I don't think anyone called him that.

• 4:06Speaker 03

  They didn't put it in the play.

• 4:08Speaker 00

  There's no, like, dialogue. It's just like a block of text and then he leaves.

• 4:11Speaker 03

  His name, he's known for his character, "Put that coffee down", the chastising associate motivated, blah blah blah, whatever. It really is a career-defining performance. One of the film's greatest monologues. The spark of drama that sets everything into motion. But there's too much cussing.

• 4:31Adam Friedland?

  So here's what I would have said if I was him. This is good Caleb. I hope you're feeling better, my friend. Hey, you piece of crap. Put down your coffee and let's get to work. Enough lollygagging around here. We really need to work and we need to make some sales. So let's get this thing started and let's have a great week at work. Thanks everyone. Thanks everyone for your time and if you need anything, I'm always available. I really appreciate everyone's time and I really, I can really see you, you guys are trying your hardest. Okay, so let's go do this, guys. Please, please enjoy my interview with Alec Baldwin. Guys, this is a great one. I'm very proud of it.

• 5:17Adam Friedland?

  Ladies and gentlemen, American institution, Alec Baldwin. I can't believe it, folks. I can't believe it, folks.

• 5:31Adam Friedland?

  I feel, I feel truly, we had a pre-interview yesterday. This is where it all ends, my hot streak. I'm outclassed and outgunned right now. You, within five seconds, I'm like, it's really him.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  That's so bizarre. You know, when you walk around and you're just kind of allergic to that. You know, I mean, like, so people will see you on the street and say things to you.

• 5:54Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you knew what you were doing.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  You say, calm down, you know what I mean, like.

• 5:57Adam Friedland?

  No, but you got on the phone, you're like, Friedland. You're like, yeah, Friedland. Tell me something, are you as dry in real life as you are on the television screen? I'm like, it's him. I feel like Liz Lemon right now. What an honor. It's charming. I, thank you so much. I'm a massive fan. I think I've researched too much. I mean, you missed the tin foil hat, like pins on a cork board section, but we were, we were going quite deep. And it goes, and the corruption goes all the way to the top, mind you. I mean, this, this, this whole thing stinks. Obama, the Illuminati, with that pyramid with the eyeball.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  Me.

• 6:33Adam Friedland?

  You, you're, I mean.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  You look carefully at the dollar bill.

• 6:35Adam Friedland?

  Useful, useful patsy, I would say, no. No, but it has been fun, kind of, to just revisit your work and just remind myself, like, kind of anecdotally, the moments of my life that I interacted with it and, you know, and just kind of the.

• 6:51Speaker 01

  How old are you, if I may ask?

• 6:52Adam Friedland?

  I'm, I'm thirty-eight years old.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  No, okay, well, you look younger.

• 6:56Adam Friedland?

  How familiar are you with this, this show right now?

• 6:59Speaker 01

  I watch your show, because the people from iHeart said, it's always that thing where they're like, well, your podcast would do better if you did other podcasts.

• 7:06Adam Friedland?

  This is a talk show, but yeah.

• 7:07Speaker 01

  A talk show, I'm sorry.

• 7:09Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, it's a talk, yeah, it's real talk.

• 7:11Speaker 01

  Your podcast would do better if you did more talk shows.

• 7:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, thank you.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  So I, they said to me that you were hot and your show was hot.

• 7:19Adam Friedland?

  Thanks.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  And your middle name is hot.

• 7:22Adam Friedland?

  One of the hottest guys said that to me.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  And then, so they said to me, come on, normally, I don't do a lot of that, because I'm like, I have kids now, I have a lot of kids, so I'm, I'm kind of busy with other things, like.

• 7:33Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  When I leave here, I gotta go pick up my kids from school.

• 7:35Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you have like seven of them?

• 7:37Speaker 01

  I have eight children, my oldest is.

• 7:39Adam Friedland?

  Eight now? Well, you're oldest, yeah.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  Eight now. Well, you lift, lift up a sofa cushion, there's always a baby under there, you know, on my house.

• 7:45Adam Friedland?

  Where do you get the energy?

• 7:47Speaker 01

  I, I don't, actually, because I'm half-dead from exhaustion. I have my older daughter, Ireland, she's married, kind of, and has a baby, and then, and I have a baby and a grandchild that are the same age.

• 7:58Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 7:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:59Adam Friedland?

  That's some freaky shit right there.

• 8:00Speaker 01

  It's a little.

• 8:01Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, is weed?

• 8:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, something.

• 8:03Adam Friedland?

  Are you a weed, weed guy?

• 8:05Speaker 01

  No, no, but I've, I've taken some gummies from my, I have that horrible insomnia. Do you sleep well?

• 8:09Adam Friedland?

  I, I took a half of a, of five milligram and watched Fantastic Mr. Fox with my girlfriend, and I kept saying, this is so well-done.

• 8:17Speaker 01

  My god, this documentary is amazing.

• 8:19Adam Friedland?

  I've really enjoyed learning about your life, when you speak about film and the theatrical arts, it's, you kind of seem like you're in love.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  Parts of it, yeah.

• 8:30Adam Friedland?

  From what I understand, like, from a very young age, you grew up in Long Island?

• 8:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 8:34Adam Friedland?

  Irish Catholic family?

• 8:35Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 8:36Adam Friedland?

  Your dad let you stay up late and watch movies?

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Well, he would, he'd fall asleep, he would come home, he always had some other, he was a schoolteacher, he always had some evening functions he did, and jobs he did, to supplement his income, and then he'd come home, and my mother was like, out of it, so I'd say, who was gonna let dad in? Like he didn't have a key to his own house, you know what I mean? So I would wait for him to come and he can go in the kitchen and make a sandwich and come in and have a, uh, something to drink and he'd watch and he'd look at the New York Times, used to have those really pithy little reviews of movies. So it would say, you know, Ball of Fire, you know, Barbara Stanwyck tells Gary Cooper where he can go. And my father would go, wow, Ball of Fire, that's a great movie. I said, let's watch it. He'd say, no, no, you gotta go to bed. I go, let's watch ten minutes. This is my, my, my game.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  And within ten minutes, he was asleep and I would watch the whole movie till one o'clock in the morning.

• 9:28Adam Friedland?

  And what were those movies that you were wa- like what, what?

• 9:31Speaker 01

  Are you a big movie freak?

• 9:32Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 9:32Speaker 01

  Five Shades of Cairo with Franchot Talmadge.

• 9:34Adam Friedland?

  Okay, yeah.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Uh, uh, uh, uh, Ha Quin was my valley.

• 9:38Adam Friedland?

  The best.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Uh, Ball of Fire.

• 9:40Adam Friedland?

  What was Ball of Fire?

• 9:42Speaker 01

  Ball of Fire's a comedy with Barbara Stanwyck, who I love. Uh, the first movie I ever watched on TV, all the way through till one in the morning, was, um, Sorry Wrong Number with Barbara Stanwyck and Burt Lancaster. Great thriller, one of the great thrillers of all time.

• 9:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 9:56Speaker 01

  But, uh, yeah.

• 9:57Adam Friedland?

  When I've like watched interviews with you, you're, you're like an incredible mimic. And something I've like connected in my mind was like, I imagine like a kid watching TV.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 10:06Adam Friedland?

  And then you kind of doing the voices. Did you feel like you were transcending Long Island?

• 10:11Speaker 01

  Well, I would be there watching a movie and someone would come on. I remember, uh, watching movies, for those of you here who are a little older. Um, when you watched movies back then, I mean, you had like an Ayurvedic sense of focus.

• 10:25Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  You know, you.

• 10:26Adam Friedland?

  They were live, right?

• 10:27Speaker 01

  Well, you, yeah, well, you'd watch the movie and there was no button to press, there was no VHS, no VCR, no rewind, you watch and you got locked in, you like watched and then heard everything.

• 10:37Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  So when James Cagney, you would talk about impersonating people, he would say lines. You'd walk away, an hour later, it'd be, you know, the guy's in the trunk. The guy says, you know, open up, open up, I can't breathe. I need some air. And Cagney's like, air? You want air? I'll give you air. Boom, boom, boom, he shoots the trunk of the car. Now I'd walk around. I was like ten years old, I walked around the whole day going eh, you want eh? I'll give you eh. And you just, these lived in your mind all the time.

• 11:03Adam Friedland?

  I was an Austin Powers kid.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  You were.

• 11:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, it was pretty cool. Everyone at school thought it was cool, yeah.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  You like Mike Myers? Have you followed his whole career?

• 11:12Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I mean, that's kind of my age.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  Well, beyond Austin Powers, yeah.

• 11:17Adam Friedland?

  The Love Guru, yeah.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  Shrek remakes and Shrek sequels, more Shrek?

• 11:22Adam Friedland?

  Oh, really? I thought that was the real Shrek. It was Mike Myers.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  Mike Myers does, uh, yeah, but those Austin Powers movies. What was the Scottish guy's name? The Scottish?

• 11:31Adam Friedland?

  Uh, Fat Bastard, thank you, yeah.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  He did all that, yeah, Fat Bastard.

• 11:35Adam Friedland?

  This is our age, though, it was, it was pretty cool. Do you remember how funny that was for us? When he had to pee for a long time after he got unfrozen? That was a real moment. I remember taking my parents to that, my mom was like, what, like? I don't want to go see the second one. Like, I was like, she was like, it's really disgusting.

• 11:54Speaker 01

  My kids love them, they love Zoolander.

• 11:56Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  They love anything that's nasty.

• 11:58Adam Friedland?

  Steelers is really funny. I mean, I liked, growing up, our, our generation's Borat, I feel like.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  You, you do, my kids love Borat.

• 12:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:04Speaker 01

  They do, they're like, they want to see Borat, they want to see, you know, they want to see the guy's ass on his face, the guy naked.

• 12:10Adam Friedland?

  Oh, the fat guy, yeah, yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  The fat guy puts his ass on his face. I'm sorry, I apologize to you. I love, you know what I love? I love, uh, Sasha Baron Cohen in Sweeney Todd, when they do the duel, the, the shaving duel? Where they both shave the guy?

• 12:24Adam Friedland?

  I haven't seen it, but I saw him, he did, uh, in Les Mis.

• 12:28Speaker 01

  Sasha Baron Cohen does Les Mis?

• 12:29Adam Friedland?

  He does, uh, Master of the House, doesn't he?

• 12:31Speaker 01

  He does?

• 12:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  No, I've never seen that.

• 12:33Adam Friedland?

  You've never seen Les Mis?

• 12:34Speaker 01

  Is it in some anniversary issue of the show?

• 12:36Adam Friedland?

  I think it was a movie with, uh, yeah, Anne Hathaway, she's, she plays a, like a prostitute, they cut her hair.

• 12:42Speaker 01

  He does Master of the House in Les Mis? I didn't know that.

• 12:45Adam Friedland?

  Is it bullshit if it's no talking? If it's only songs? That's what me and my girlfriend had an argument about. I was like, keep watching, she's like, there's not, they're not doing sentences, it's just songs.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  Well, you gotta think about like people who wrote opera, how they tried to keep it interesting. You know, you're not gonna sit there and go, "I am hungry. I want to call this food store to deliver my food."

• 13:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, it's kind of bullshit.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  Well, everything that's kind of quotidian.

• 13:09Adam Friedland?

  That guy Sondheim does that, right? It's like, "Then I went to the..." It's kind of bullshit. It doesn't have to be a song.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  He does it slightly better than that.

• 13:17Adam Friedland?

  Just fucking say it, dude.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  But I'm saying the idea of an opera, which I attend the opera hit now and then, and everything is sung. And I left her be the screen, because I don't speak German or whatever. And you wonder how they have to cut out-

• 13:28Adam Friedland?

  Wagner has a lot of good thoughts.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Wagner's got some good lines.

• 13:31Adam Friedland?

  He has some great ones.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  He's got some killer lines. Great jokes.

• 13:33Adam Friedland?

  Honestly, if I was a German, non-Jew person and they were playing that, it's very emotional. You could sell a fascism with that music.

• 13:41Speaker 01

  I do get a little nervous when I put on Wagner, I must say.

• 13:43Adam Friedland?

  No, it's fine. You can listen to it. I'll give you the pass. I'll give you the pass. It's so beautiful. Tannhauser?

• 13:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:50Adam Friedland?

  You're a big classical music guy.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  Tristan and Eustace is my favorite.

• 13:53Adam Friedland?

  You're, that's your thing, classical music?

• 13:54Speaker 01

  I, uh, yeah, I'm a big nut. I was in L.A. and I was driving around. I was, you know, living out there for a while. Going back and forth for thirty years. I had a home in both places. And I'm in the car and I put on the local classical station and I just, I, I never turned back. All I listened to was pretty much classical.

• 14:12Adam Friedland?

  Do you remember what was playing?

• 14:13Speaker 01

  Uh, yes.

• 14:14Adam Friedland?

  Wagner?

• 14:14Speaker 01

  Uh, no.

• 14:15Adam Friedland?

  Richard Wagner?

• 14:16Speaker 01

  Uh, Richard Wagner.

• 14:17Adam Friedland?

  I had [BLEEP] on the show recently. I was like-

• 14:20Speaker 01

  No!

• 14:20Adam Friedland?

  I said, yeah, I'm afraid to release it. I don't think I've ever met a racist. I think that was the first racist I've met.

• 14:27Speaker 01

  Was she a racist on your show?

• 14:29Adam Friedland?

  Oh, my God. But I didn't know how to interact with it, because it was kind of a woman was yelling at me and I really hate when that happens.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  She was yelling at you?

• 14:36Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. I was trying to just, I was trying to, I think I said to her, "I'm nice. Stop yelling at me."

• 14:41Speaker 01

  Whenever women yell, just say the same thing, which is my line always, which was-

• 14:44Adam Friedland?

  They're so mad.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Well, a friend of mine taught me this, which was, "Women yell at you, no offense. But when women yell at you, just say the line, 'I don't understand.'"

• 14:51Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 14:51Speaker 01

  And they just keep saying it, and then they leave. They'll say something to you, and you go, "I don't understand."

• 14:57Adam Friedland?

  They don't like it when you ask questions about what they mean. They really don't like that either.

• 15:01Speaker 01

  Just say, "I don't understand," and they'll be gone in five minutes.

• 15:03Adam Friedland?

  They don't like it when... I bet you like, um, Zorong's girl is probably mad at him for working too long. For, because he was, uh, because he was campaigning too much.

• 15:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:15Adam Friedland?

  You know, I think it's.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  You excited about that? Are you excited about where the city is headed, the direction we're headed?

• 15:19Adam Friedland?

  Uh, I think he's a pretty smart guy. Yeah, I met him, I met him, I think.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Have you been on the show?

• 15:24Adam Friedland?

  He's straight, no, not yet, but he, it was really, you know, in ninety-two, like, um, my parents were really excited about Clinton. Right? And they had like, don't stop thinking about tomorrow, the Fleetwood Mac, and then it kind of dawned on me that that was the first boomer. Right? That was like in national politics. And when I met him, he, we just both like soccer and hip hop and we're just the lamest guys. But there was like, me and Zod, yeah, we were just talking.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  Where'd you meet him?

• 15:52Adam Friedland?

  I met him in Queens.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  You mean Mandani?

• 15:55Adam Friedland?

  And it's kind of representative, it's kind of Wakanda for me. It's like, we're both like, you know what I mean? Like, he's a millennial. He's like a, he was uniquely normal.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  Well, the strangest introduction I ever had was I was at the Kennedy Center Honors years ago. I used to go pretty frequently and did a couple of shows.

• 16:12Adam Friedland?

  For Wagner, for Richard Wagner.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  For Wagner getting the award, yeah. Wagner's, Wagner's daughter got the award.

• 16:17Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah?

• 16:17Speaker 01

  She accepted. Um, the, um, the thing was that we were there and, uh, my friend who passed away, she was a big lobbyist in Washington, Liz Robbins. And we're going through the luncheon. There's like four different events that you can go to if you're there for the weekend. So I go down there for the whole weekend, then I'm there with this and that, and you're saying hi to Richard Gephardt, and you're saying hi to this person, and you're saying hi to this congressman or whatever. And this, uh, woman senator, whatever. And as I, I don't see over here, and Liz goes, I knew no Secretary Kissinger, and I went.

• 16:47Adam Friedland?

  Oh, wow.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  And, and Henry Kissinger's in front of me.

• 16:49Adam Friedland?

  Hands up.

• 16:50Speaker 01

  And right prior to that, like within a day or two, his mother had died. His mother lived up in Harlem, in like a little Jewish section of uptown, and she was a big community activist. She was very, very well loved there. And I turned to him and I'm going, here's this guy who is essentially, you know, a war criminal.

• 17:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, he caught a lot of bodies.

• 17:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. And he's in front of me and I go. I'm sorry about your mother. And he leans in and hugs me, he goes, that's very nice of you.

• 17:15Adam Friedland?

  And he was so lit, he was like a ball.

• 17:17Speaker 01

  So thank you so much for saying this. And I thought to myself, I'm comforting Henry Kissinger.

• 17:21Adam Friedland?

  Was he like 5'2", but like rotund?

• 17:24Speaker 01

  He was a little bit of a fire.

• 17:25Adam Friedland?

  He got a ton of pussy, you know that?

• 17:27Speaker 01

  He got more ass.

• 17:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, what was that?

• 17:29Speaker 01

  That's like in Nixon with a.

• 17:31Adam Friedland?

  The tapes, do you like the Nixon tapes?

• 17:34Speaker 01

  Do I like the Nixon tapes?

• 17:35Adam Friedland?

  I love. I mean like.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  Peter Fels, Nixon tapes.

• 17:39Adam Friedland?

  I think the writing, I think, okay, from a dramatic arts perspective, I think the writing on Nixon was the best writing. In terms of like, this guy's just a fucking.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Oliver Stone's movie.

• 17:49Adam Friedland?

  No, I'm just saying, no, the guy, Richard Nixon, like, the best president is Lincoln, right? He's like the best, he was, he did a good job, right? He saved the union, brother, come on, stop. But anyway, Nixon was just this loser and every time he showed up anywhere, they'd be like, oh, it's Richard Nixon. You know the thing about Pat, right?

• 18:08Speaker 01

  What about her?

• 18:09Adam Friedland?

  When he was trying to like.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  Just smell.

• 18:10Adam Friedland?

  Date her, she was like, no, you're fucking Richard Nixon, I'm not gonna date you.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  And he drove them on the dates.

• 18:16Adam Friedland?

  And then he would chaperone her for like 18 months with other guy.

• 18:19Speaker 01

  But you see Oliver's movie about Nixon, right, with the other guy with it, you see Oliver's movie about Nixon and, uh, uh, uh, what's his name? Mao says that to Kissinger. He, the interpreter says, the chairman wants to know how a fat man like you can have so many girlfriends.

• 18:34Adam Friedland?

  Well, he's paying for it probably though.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 18:37Adam Friedland?

  How many, how many girls? How many girls you got in your lifetime? Probably over a thousand.

• 18:41Speaker 01

  How many women? No, that's very.

• 18:42Adam Friedland?

  You're a star, you're a movie star. No.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  I was busy, man.

• 18:47Adam Friedland?

  You're a busy man.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  I look at the woman, I got 20 minutes.

• 18:50Adam Friedland?

  No, you don't have 20 minutes, no, no, no.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  No, I'd say to the woman.

• 18:53Adam Friedland?

  Oh, the woman, you got more time, right? Your kid can walk home.

• 18:57Adam Friedland?

  In your memoir, you talk about, um, when you're a young actor living in New York City, you talk about that you were into prank calls, you and your roommate Tuck, right?

• 19:06Speaker 01

  My roommate, well, I used to do this with my ex-girlfriend.

• 19:08Adam Friedland?

  Did you?

• 19:09Speaker 01

  Driving in from Long Island on Sunday nights, we'd be driving on the LIE late at night and we would leave messages on like corporate voicemails. So you'd call up and it would say, uh, to reach human resources, press 26. And then you press 26 and the voice would come on and go, hi, it's Steve Regan and leave a message for me after the tone. And I get on and I go, oh my God, Steve, last night was so magical. You were, I mean, you left your watch on the night table.

• 19:35Adam Friedland?

  So then they think he's gay?

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Could you prank call my father?

• 19:40Adam Friedland?

  Here's my pitch. You pray call him as Donald Trump and you say your son is in big trouble with the administration.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  I should be so... Well, you know what? I can't do these voices.

• 19:51Adam Friedland?

  You've got Trump on TV.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  But you say you're Trump and right away your father will know what's stupid.

• 19:56Adam Friedland?

  No, my dad won't know. He's gonna think that I'm going to Gitmo and it's gonna be so funny.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  But I think I should say that, like, somebody should say... Not you, of course. Somebody should say, "Hold the line for Director Patel."

• 20:08Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah, Cash Patel?

• 20:09Speaker 01

  And then I come on, and he wouldn't really know who that was.

• 20:10Adam Friedland?

  My dad would have some words for Trump. I think it's gonna be funny.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  But let's finish the interview first. You want to do it now?

• 20:16Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, it'd be hilarious. This is gonna be a moment of, like, talking on his...

• 20:20Speaker 01

  It's more proposatory than I thought.

• 20:21Adam Friedland?

  I don't have a phone on me. I mean, well, yes, "This is Donald Trump, I have your son."

• 20:26Speaker 01

  No, I'm not gonna say I'm Donald Trump.

• 20:27Adam Friedland?

  No, just say it's gonna be... Because my dad hates Trump.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  Sam the President?

• 20:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  He hates Trump. But if I say I'm Trump, that's gonna give it away that it's bullshit. What's his name?

• 20:35Adam Friedland?

  Max.

• 20:36Speaker 01

  Max?

• 20:37Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, Max Friedland. He's a great guy.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  Max Wagner is your father.

• 20:41Adam Friedland?

  No, he's not... Come on, dude, we're on the other side. We're on the hiding side. Okay.

• 20:52Speaker 01

  Hold the line for the President of the United States, please.

• 20:56Speaker 04

  Okay, one moment. Dad, I think it's for you.

• 20:59Speaker 05

  Hello?

• 21:01Speaker 01

  Hold the line for the President of the United States, please.

• 21:05Speaker 05

  Hold the line for the President of the United States.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  Is this Max? Max, are you there? Max? I got a file in front of me that says you're in Vegas. Is that where you are, Max? Vegas?

• 21:16Speaker 05

  Who am I talking to?

• 21:17Speaker 01

  You're talking to the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.

• 21:21Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 21:21Speaker 01

  And I want you to know, your son...

• 21:23Speaker 05

  I know who you are.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  Your son is a mess, okay? We gotta get him out of the country. We're sending him down to Uruguay. Uruguay, where he's gonna teach communications at the Iroquois University of Communications, okay? But we want you to talk to him really quickly. He's only gonna be in the country for another three or four hours. Here he is, Max. Thank you, hold on. Say hello to your father, Max.

• 21:44Adam Friedland?

  Dad, I'm in big trouble with the administration.

• 21:47Speaker 05

  I know.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  He's a Brit. He's a Brit.

• 21:50Adam Friedland?

  He's South African. Yeah, we're Cape Tonia Jews. Dad, I'll talk to you later. You've been pranked.

• 21:56Speaker 01

  South African, they got it right the first time, okay?

• 21:58Adam Friedland?

  You're a real idiot. You've been pranked by the best.

• 22:04Speaker 06

  Donald Trump.

• 22:05Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you hear that? You're coming for that, James.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  Pyrrhic victory.

• 22:09Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, okay. I love you, Dad.

• 22:12Speaker 01

  I love you, Dad.

• 22:13Adam Friedland?

  Dad, you say "I love you" back. Why did you say "I love you" back?

• 22:16Speaker 06

  I said "I love you" back.

• 22:18Adam Friedland?

  Oh, okay, thanks a lot. Why are you being so nice to him? He's really turned so nice recently.

• 22:23Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 22:23Adam Friedland?

  I can't handle it.

• 22:24Speaker 01

  Was he not like that when you were young?

• 22:25Adam Friedland?

  No, well, he's not.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  Are you bitter and cynical because of the way he treated you?

• 22:28Adam Friedland?

  No, no, no, he's my best friend. He made me tough. Because we'd sit there arguing, but it would always be like a compliment, but it would be a criticism. The other day, he's like, "Just be yourself." I'm like, "What the fuck are you talking about?"

• 22:38Speaker 01

  Who's that?

• 22:39Adam Friedland?

  Myself?

• 22:40Speaker 01

  Who's... how many kids in your family?

• 22:42Adam Friedland?

  Two, I'm the older one.

• 22:43Speaker 01

  And who's the other one?

• 22:44Adam Friedland?

  Zoe. We have the same birthday.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  That's the one that answers the phone.

• 22:46Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, she was in on it. She was in on it. Can I ask you if I could take your phone? And could I do a prank call on Robert De Niro, perhaps?

• 23:03Adam Friedland?

  Can we get a hello?

• 23:07Speaker 01

  I don't have anybody here who would have patience.

• 23:08Adam Friedland?

  What about President Clinton? He's a real magic guy.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  Hillary Clinton? I mean, Chelsea Clinton?

• 23:13Adam Friedland?

  No, no, yeah.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  If I gave your number and you prank called Chelsea Clinton, I would be out of this country in about an hour.

• 23:22Adam Friedland?

  I'm telling you, I'm not gonna mess anything up with you. Robert De Niro's gonna think this is really funny.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  De Niro's a very no-nonsense guy. He's very busy during the day.

• 23:29Adam Friedland?

  Is he? He's like that in real life.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  He's opening restaurants and hotels around the world. And he's a very successful businessman.

• 23:36Adam Friedland?

  No boo.

• 23:36Speaker 01

  No boo.

• 23:37Adam Friedland?

  Is that annoying?

• 23:39Speaker 01

  What? No boo?

• 23:40Adam Friedland?

  No, you guys like dress up in costumes and pretend to be other people, and then he's like a serious businessman?

• 23:46Speaker 01

  He's loaded with money, yeah, he's loaded.

• 23:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, but it's like, you don't have to. You're fucking Robert De Niro.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  But while you make... I mean, I know people who have a name, who are like, maybe you've heard of them.

• 23:55Adam Friedland?

  What? Obama?

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Wagner.

• 23:57Adam Friedland?

  Wagner.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Who haven't... who took the money they made. And it might not have been hundreds of millions of dollars in fees, like Leo or, you know, whatever.

• 24:06Adam Friedland?

  Leo who?

• 24:07Speaker 01

  De Capri.

• 24:07Adam Friedland?

  Oh, okay.

• 24:08Speaker 01

  But these guys make a lot of money in fees, but there's people I know who made less money in fees, but they invested that money.

• 24:15Adam Friedland?

  What do you mean fees?

• 24:15Speaker 01

  Acting fees, your fee.

• 24:17Adam Friedland?

  Oh, like SAG, yeah.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, yeah, SAG.

• 24:20Adam Friedland?

  Oh, fees, like when you get on a movie?

• 24:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  You make a movie and you get paid. You know, you're doing Tom Cruise, you get fifty million dollars to do...

• 24:26Adam Friedland?

  It's the coolest job.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Right. Well, but what I'm saying is that the...

• 24:29Adam Friedland?

  You just say the words, right? And you get fifty billion dollars?

• 24:33Speaker 01

  No, no, no. He does a lot more than that for fifty million.

• 24:35Adam Friedland?

  Do you have, do you have Tom Cruise? I'm just a huge fan.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  What, Tom's number?

• 24:39Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  I have his sister's number.

• 24:40Adam Friedland?

  You have his sister?

• 24:40Speaker 01

  But if I call her.

• 24:41Adam Friedland?

  Who's she?

• 24:42Speaker 01

  Who's she?

• 24:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 24:43Speaker 01

  She's Tom's sister.

• 24:44Adam Friedland?

  Wow.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  She runs a lot of his businesses.

• 24:46Adam Friedland?

  He's one of my, he's one of my favorites.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  But I'm saying is that those people, I know people who've taken less money, they haven't made as much money, but they invested it so wisely. They're rich beyond belief.

• 24:57Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, but Robert De Niro?

• 24:58Speaker 01

  If I told you some of them, you'd die. And De Niro's the same way. He invests in businesses and...

• 25:02Adam Friedland?

  Who has the most money?

• 25:03Speaker 01

  Who has the most money of anybody I've ever met in my life? I have to say one of the Beatles would probably be the most wealthy people.

• 25:09Adam Friedland?

  Maka? Can we call him Maka?

• 25:10Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 25:11Adam Friedland?

  No, why? You had a falling out with Maka?

• 25:14Speaker 01

  No, no, no. I just, I mean, for me, I kinda went underground for a while when I had my issue in New Mexico that I had to deal with.

• 25:20Adam Friedland?

  I mean, Maka, he's, he, he wrote some of the best, best songs. Well, we're friends. I mean, we have a lot of music guys here. This guy over here, Jake, is really close with us.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  You play, you play, are you?

• 25:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. He jams?

• 25:32Speaker 01

  Where is he? Me and Maka?

• 25:34Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  You're buddies with him? Big time. Oh, are you being serious?

• 25:38Adam Friedland?

  I mean, he is, he's a, he's the best. He's like my favorite. Him and Bob Dylan. You, you missed all that because you were listening to like violins and stuff.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  I was listening to, yeah, to Strauss.

• 25:48Adam Friedland?

  You were listening to Strauss?

• 25:49Speaker 01

  Strauss. Now, do you, no, do you like Bob Dylan?

• 25:52Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah, he's the best one.

• 25:53Speaker 01

  What do you love about Bob Dylan?

• 25:55Adam Friedland?

  Uh, he's...

• 25:57Speaker 01

  I go in and out on Bob Dylan.

• 25:58Adam Friedland?

  Uh, oh, I mean, it's every era for different periods of your life. I went heavy Christian after a terrible breakup. And I was like, I did the, then I realized that... Yeah, yeah, I was like, it's so nice.

• 26:09Speaker 01

  What brand of Christianity did you tilt to?

• 26:11Adam Friedland?

  The Bob Dylan Christian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like a...

• 26:13Speaker 01

  You were a Bob Dylan Christian?

• 26:14Adam Friedland?

  Well, he had three Christian albums. And then I was like, what, maybe God loves you, right? And I was like, we didn't have that for Jews. Our God is like Trump. He's like, if you don't respect me, I'm gonna smite you. If you make a golden calf, like, I'm gonna kill all of you. He's like very insecure. He's like a bitch. But like, uh, it's not real. None of this is real. But like, I'm like, oh, it's so nice that, uh, the Jesus thing, that God loves you so much and let your son die. But then I snapped out of it.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  How would you define Judaism? What's your definition? What makes you Jewish? What's the definition? I have a friend of mine that gave me a great definition.

• 26:48Adam Friedland?

  You do the thing, you say, you do the thing and it's boring, but like, your grandpa was bored too, so you feel like you're not gonna...

• 26:55Speaker 01

  It's your turn to be bored.

• 26:56Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, it's kind of nice. It's gibberish, it's like spells, I don't know, but it's like you don't want to be the one that drops the ball.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  Were you raised very observant?

• 27:05Adam Friedland?

  I mean, if I do it, I know all the words.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  You know the words.

• 27:09Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I did full parsha, hof Torah, and I led a...

• 27:13Speaker 01

  You went to Hebrew school?

• 27:15Adam Friedland?

  I didn't, I went to, I was bar mitzvah at Orthodox because it was free, that's why.

• 27:23Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, it was free to go there, but, I don't know, I think it's kind of, it's just like, that's kind of nice. The boredom is kind of, it doesn't make sense, you don't know what they're saying, but your grandpa, it didn't make sense to him. And that's kind of why, you know what I mean?

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Well, no, I grew up Catholic, so I...

• 27:42Adam Friedland?

  Well, we're cousins.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  They spoke Latin back then, so it was also gibberish, but to me...

• 27:46Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, we both like hate ourselves and we both think that life is just agony. We're cousins. I mean, all of my friends are either Catholic or Jewish or black.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  Catholicism to me is about redemption.

• 27:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  You're like, no matter how bad you are, you have to see that there's a chance of being redeemed for what they did.

• 28:04Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah, I stopped the Christian thing when I realized that hell is the meanest thing ever. Can you imagine? Forever? What is it, and if you're a baby and you haven't been baptized yet?

• 28:13Speaker 01

  What about hell was something that was just your hell? Like a thing you hate, like your own personal hell?

• 28:21Adam Friedland?

  I mean, it's sad, yeah, I think that it's just sad that people die. Wow, this is getting pretty, it's just sad that you have, you know you're alive and then it's...

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Are you afraid to die?

• 28:29Adam Friedland?

  Oh, it's the scariest thing ever. I don't understand, people are like, public speaking is my biggest fear, I was like, what about fucking dying? Forever, you're dead?

• 28:38Speaker 01

  What about being thrown out of a plane?

• 28:39Adam Friedland?

  What about fucking dead?

• 28:40Speaker 01

  By a narcotics?

• 28:41Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Ever see those movies where they do that?

• 28:43Adam Friedland?

  What?

• 28:44Speaker 01

  Where they take the enemy and they bind him up and then they throw him out of the plane?

• 28:47Adam Friedland?

  No.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  You ever see that, like in a drug movie?

• 28:49Adam Friedland?

  Oh, like a, like a-

• 28:51Speaker 01

  Well, they take a guy, they just don't like Pedro and they throw him out of the plane.

• 28:53Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, like if they're criminals, like cartel guys.

• 28:56Speaker 01

  Or they're just the enemy.

• 28:57Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. But those guys are ready to die, you know? They're like, you know, they're like, "Es ma ta." You know, like, was that good acting? Okay, can we talk-

• 29:05Speaker 01

  You realize, Pedro, you might be killed.

• 29:07Adam Friedland?

  Can we talk a little bit about your, I've been going back through your filmography and your performances and it's just like, when you appear on a screen, it's like, "Oh, it's, it's my pal. It's like my old pal and this is gonna be great." I mean, you could make a real turd watchable. Pearl Harbor, you're like, you make your parts watchable. And that's one of the shittiest movies of all time. I mean, I'm serious. Yeah, and it's just like, I, I, um, I watched Hunt for Red October with my dad. This is like a, a hunky, leading man.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  Back then, yeah.

• 29:41Adam Friedland?

  From, from like, learning about what transpired afterwards, it wasn't the perception I had of you. I, I feel like the industry has been like a frustration, you know, like especially when it came to like reprising your role as Jack Ryan.

• 29:56Speaker 01

  Well, they wanted me to sign up with a, like a blank contract. When we start, when we finish, like you, like you only do this, and you never do anything else. And I had an opportunity, as I wrote in my memoir, to do the Streetcar on Broadway, which was a very, that was like the opportunity for an actor, that was it. I would never have that opportunity again, ever.

• 30:14Adam Friedland?

  My perception was that, that they, they kind of like promised you and-

• 30:18Speaker 01

  They threw me out of the plane.

• 30:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not bad to get replaced by the coolest guy of all time, right? Imagine if it was Brian Dennehy playing Jack, Jack Ryan. It's, it's Han Solo, I mean. When I read about that, I was like, it's just so cynical, like it's a, you're like an artist, right? And when you talk about performing and acting, you get so passionate about it. I want to talk about-

• 30:40Speaker 01

  Well, you realize back then, when I lived, it was eighty-nine, ninety, the movie came out in ninety. And then in the ensuing couple of years, the early nineties, I learned that you just really can't rely on anybody, what they say, they're- So I just, whenever they'd say, blah, blah, blah, to them, go, "Oh, that's great." Never counting on any of it happening.

• 30:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 30:55Speaker 01

  You know, it's, it's very tough.

• 30:56Adam Friedland?

  You just have to have monsters that do it for you. I have a whole team of ghouls.

• 31:01Speaker 01

  What was the genesis of this meeting? Were you like Rupert Pupkin in the basement and your mother's yelling down the stairs?

• 31:06Adam Friedland?

  It is, it is a joke. It's a joke that, that became a real thing. Yeah, yeah.

• 31:09Speaker 01

  So it was a joke and your mom goes, "Please, it's so annoying."

• 31:11Adam Friedland?

  This? No.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  She supported you.

• 31:13Adam Friedland?

  I was being made fun of. No, no. Yeah, I was the, I was on a podcast, uh, that was for, like, I mean, whatever, [BLEEP] guys. I mean, just idiots. Uh, he didn't smile and now I've, okay, I was on a podcast for, like, ugly men, right?

• 31:29Speaker 01

  Oh, for ugly men?

• 31:30Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, just like, just like the worst, you know, and it was like a cult sensation. It became very successful and then one of us-

• 31:36Speaker 01

  What was it called?

• 31:37Adam Friedland?

  It was called Cum Town. We tried, they-

• 31:42Adam Friedland?

  Uh, yeah. Anyway, it's, it got, it got successful. It's very, I don't know. I was just there pretty much, but the, you know, the, the, one of the guys left and then, uh, the other guy's idea was to make like, by far the least popular, nebbishy, kind of like the glasses, you know, allergies. The, you, I was, we all played a role.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  On the show, on, on, what's it called? Cum Town?

• 32:08Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, so then-

• 32:08Speaker 01

  On that show, were you like a leading man compared to them?

• 32:11Adam Friedland?

  Uh, no, no, absolutely not, yeah. Like Quasimodo? Sometimes I wasn't even, I was barely even there. But, but, uh, yeah, uh, I think we went a little bit manic and, uh, publicly proclaimed we were gonna make a television show. We didn't know what, cameras or anything, and then we recreated the Dick Cavett show set.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  I have an image of you in a set like this, in your basement and your mother, whatever, and you're sitting there and there's a line you say.

• 32:33Adam Friedland?

  No, no, no.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  And that line, you're like sitting there and you go, "I'll show them."

• 32:38Adam Friedland?

  Well, no, I mean-

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Was that it?

• 32:39Adam Friedland?

  I'm not like a scary, I'm not a scary guy like that, no.

• 32:41Speaker 01

  No, but it doesn't need to be scary.

• 32:43Adam Friedland?

  No, no, I think it was just like-

• 32:44Speaker 01

  Passionate.

• 32:44Adam Friedland?

  Then the real guests were coming and then I decided for the first time to, in my life at 35, to try. And then I've, I've, I've kind of seen myself progress and it's, uh, given me a sense of self-worth and it feels like, I don't know, it feels like I'm not like fast-forwarding to being dead and so, it's just, I don't know, work. Why are you looking? Are you gonna punch me?

• 33:05Speaker 01

  No.

• 33:05Adam Friedland?

  I'm gonna fucking-

• 33:06Speaker 01

  I'm gonna fuck you up.

• 33:07Adam Friedland?

  I'm gonna fuck you up, dude.

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• 40:57Adam Friedland?

  I've been like, I watched the monologue from Glengarry Glen Ross. I have like so many friends that went to the revival that were like, "That was fucking bullshit. They didn't have put that coffee down."

• 41:06Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 41:07Adam Friedland?

  It was like, uh, because that was only for the film. Did Mamet write that for you?

• 41:11Speaker 01

  Yes. Not for me, he wrote it for the film.

• 41:13Adam Friedland?

  And, and so like, do you conceive of that as like a moment for you?

• 41:18Speaker 01

  I really don't care in terms of like, I never really watched my own stuff and value it in any way.

• 41:22Adam Friedland?

  It's the best acting, yeah.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  Well, no, no, but I'm saying that I called Mamet, I go, "You won the Pulitzer Prize."

• 41:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  For the play, why did you feel it necessary to add something to it? You won the Pulitzer. He said, "I never believed these guys were criminals. I never believed they could commit a crime. They didn't have a criminal nature, so I needed another ratchet, I needed another turn of the screw, to make them commit a crime. And you're gonna come in, you're gonna tell them, 'If you don't get this done tonight, it's over.'"

• 41:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 41:47Speaker 01

  So he brought me in to do that. And it was really tough because I admired all them and I had to piss in their face all day for three days.

• 41:53Adam Friedland?

  Did they, did it feel real like, because the-

• 41:56Speaker 01

  I thought Ed Harris was gonna punch me in the face.

• 41:57Adam Friedland?

  Really? Because that's what I imagined, in that room, you're with a murderer's row, right? Do you like, is there a competitive aspect of it? Is it like, you don't want to get acted off the screen? Like, did, did you bring it really because like fucking Pacino's and Jack Lemmon were like there?

• 42:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, Jack, I admire him. Yeah, well, you just really, you, I mean, everything you do, you've got to have some motivation. So it's like, I'm there with Foley, I've said this a million times. I'm there with Foley, who's the director, and I said, "Oh, like, this is tough, man. I mean, I'm just so mean to them." And then Foley said to me, who just died recently, he said, "It's like that scene in Patton, where he slaps the soldier in the tent."

• 42:35Adam Friedland?

  Where he has a shock.

• 42:36Speaker 01

  You call yourself a soldier, or you have a shell shock. And he goes, "This scene is you call yourself a salesman." He said, "These guys, you're doing it for their own good, you're doing it to help them. You're helping them." I remember sitting there, I was like Popeye after he ate the spinach, you know what I mean? I remember sitting there going, "Oh, let's fucking go." And I'm like, you know, I got out of the chair and I go, "Oh, man."

• 42:54Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  I was ready to kill.

• 42:55Adam Friedland?

  Did they show, did they give you your flowers? Was Pacino like, "Ooh, ah, you were great, you were great?"

• 43:01Speaker 01

  No, he wasn't in the scene, yeah.

• 43:02Adam Friedland?

  No, no, he wasn't in the scene, that's right. Did Jack Lemmon say like?

• 43:05Speaker 01

  No, Jack Lemmon didn't say a word to me.

• 43:07Adam Friedland?

  He peed his pants, probably.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  No, no, they just, they just stayed in the zone, you know, I mean, they were all in that zone all day long, three days.

• 43:13Adam Friedland?

  It, in my mind, is a moment in like, it's, feels like some of the best acting I've ever seen in a film. And you're only, you were probably on set for what, two days?

• 43:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, two and a half days.

• 43:23Adam Friedland?

  And you kind of like steal, you steal.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  The most exciting thing, and that movie was a good example, was, you know, it's the people you work with. Obviously, the actors are a big part of it, but also the crew. Like, I've always worked with, I've been very blessed to work with some of the greatest cinematographers in history. And Juan Ruiz Anchiya, who was the DP on that film, he was like, you know, Babanco's guy, and he was, I love him. Anyway, Juan Ruiz Anchiya, he was, I worked with Don McAlpin, I worked with Toll, John Toll, I worked with, you know, um, I'm forgetting now, but Bob Richardson, the legendary Bob Richardson, the one I did.

• 43:59Adam Friedland?

  Is there ever a time where they're like, they don't speak English, right?

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know the story?

• 44:03Adam Friedland?

  What's the story?

• 44:04Speaker 01

  Carlo De Palma.

• 44:05Adam Friedland?

  Oh, of course, that's a, that's kind of.

• 44:07Speaker 01

  He didn't speak English very well. We did Woody Allen's movie, uh.

• 44:10Adam Friedland?

  How does Woody communicate with him on set?

• 44:12Speaker 01

  He doesn't, he doesn't talk to you.

• 44:12Adam Friedland?

  He's like, you just tell them.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  They go off and mumble.

• 44:14Adam Friedland?

  Just go over there, yeah.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Put the camera near her, close at her.

• 44:20Adam Friedland?

  You did three Woodies?

• 44:21Speaker 01

  I did three Woodies, yeah.

• 44:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. In transitioning to like, uh, being a comedic actor, which like, you have a classical training, right? You studied at NYU and like, uh.

• 44:31Speaker 01

  Strasburg.

• 44:32Adam Friedland?

  But it kind of, in some ways, the way I see it is like, you at the TV, that was the beginning of your education.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  That's where you learn.

• 44:40Adam Friedland?

  Right?

• 44:40Speaker 01

  Watching other people.

• 44:41Adam Friedland?

  And it's kind of like you were picking, that was like the beginning of theater school for you, right? And like, are you the best actor you've ever been right now? Like, is it something that evolves over time, or?

• 44:51Speaker 01

  Well, I think it's hard to, you, I'd rather give a, I'd rather have a smaller role in a great film.

• 44:56Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 44:56Speaker 01

  Than have a big role in a mediocre film.

• 44:58Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  You know, the, the key is, are you making a film with people who, I said this, and I said this quote. In a documentary I did, I said avoiding any kind of relationship or any kind of communication with the director. And not availing yourself of the director's skills. I said it was like trying to avoid the birth canal where you're being born. You're like, oh, all goes through the director, they're making the film. So if you make a film with a good director, you have an increased chance. I've made films where we knew that if everybody did their job perfectly, every day, the most we could hope for was mediocrity. You know what I mean? It wasn't on the page. I wanted to go to work, but when I worked with Marty or somebody like that, and I'm like, you know, fuck. That's exciting.

• 45:41Adam Friedland?

  I mean, you were in two, you kind of sold departed too. You like, no, you seen sold.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  But I loved doing The Aviator because I loved that period, I loved Leo in that role.

• 45:52Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah, as Juan.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  I was exactly. And his daughter is my neighbor on Long Island, she was, Betsy DeVicki.

• 45:58Adam Friedland?

  Pan Am?

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Betsy DeVicki said to me, I'll never forget.

• 46:01Adam Friedland?

  She got fat stacks, no? Or she's, no, she's probably a big house though?

• 46:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's passed away.

• 46:08Adam Friedland?

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  She had a nice house.

• 46:09Adam Friedland?

  Sorry, may her memory be a blessing.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  It was some historic home. But anyway, so a trip, I'm there with her and she goes, do you think that Mr. Scorsese would like to have my dad's luggage in the film? And I go, I don't know, I can call him and ask him. And he had Halliburton luggage, that stainless steel luggage, beautiful luggage, all stamped with the logo of Pan Am on there. And I remember I was thinking, my god, it's like, sell me this fucking luggage right now.

• 46:37Adam Friedland?

  Right.

• 46:37Speaker 01

  For a million dollars, I'll give you a million dollars.

• 46:39Adam Friedland?

  Did you tell Marty?

• 46:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I told Marty and Marty was like, no!

• 46:44Adam Friedland?

  That sucks because you were trying to impress him. You were like, Marty, I found the real luggage of the guy.

• 46:47Speaker 01

  You realize your research isn't to change the script, I've had that happen.

• 46:51Adam Friedland?

  That's not changing the script, you're like going above and beyond, you're being a good student. You're like, you're giving him an apple.

• 46:57Speaker 01

  You're trying to bring what you can.

• 46:58Adam Friedland?

  I mean, it's Martin Scorsese. Are there directors that you've wanted to fucking just pummel? Like, there have to be, some of them have to be like manipulative fucking sociopathic.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  I've been in situations where, early on, I don't even think they roll the camera. Like, you're in meetings before and the guy's obviously not, doesn't have anything to say. Like, you just think differently. I'm like, I don't want to judge people and say mean things about them. But there's like one or two cases where I sat there and I said to the producers, we get alone in a room and I go, get somebody else. I don't want to do that.

• 47:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, because you're naturally manipulating someone into giving a performance, right? So there is some sort of

• 47:33Speaker 01

  You gotta have a good director, you gotta have a decent director. I did this movie, The Cooler.

• 47:37Adam Friedland?

  Great movie.

• 47:38Speaker 01

  And, yeah, and Wayne Kramer was the writer-director. And it was like, and, uh, and I just loved him. He was really, really, he was into listening to what you had to say. But in the end, you defer to the fact, like, if you read a script and you agree to do the film, you agree to do that script. You can't come in, which many actors do, and try to change things after the fact. You come in, and then you say to them, "Let's do some alternatives. We'll do it as written."

• 48:01Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Then let's do some improvisations. But always do it as written, that's what obligated to do.

• 48:05Adam Friedland?

  We just had Bill Macy, who was also in that movie. And I say Bill because it's like, I'm also famous. He said, I call him Bill. It's kind of sick.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  I made three movies with Bill.

• 48:13Adam Friedland?

  Bill H. Macy. You did, yeah, but he was the, you were nominated for The Cooler.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  I did The Cooler with him, Ghosts of Mississippi, and then I did A State in Maine with Mamet.

• 48:22Adam Friedland?

  So he took, Mamet was like his, like, kind of mentor.

• 48:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 48:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, and the way he described his, uh, process was like the least, like, dick-headed way that acting's ever been described to me, which is that there's no character, there's just an objective, like, it's, you do your fucking job, right? And if you do it well-

• 48:43Speaker 01

  That's the Mamet school, Mamet wrote a book, yeah.

• 48:45Adam Friedland?

  Like, uh, did that rub off on you in working with him?

• 48:48Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 48:49Adam Friedland?

  You don't buy it, you don't buy it.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  I've worked with directors, not many, but a couple, where they say to me, "Could you do this? And, uh, and do this?" And I, and I didn't quite understand, but I'd always go, "Because of time, you're part of a collaboration where time is urgent." So I'd say to the guy, "Sure, I'll go, I'll do that right now, let's do another one, I'll do that." And I'd go right back and do exactly what I did before.

• 49:08Adam Friedland?

  Right.

• 49:09Speaker 01

  I go, "How was that?"

• 49:10Adam Friedland?

  So what's your process?

• 49:13Speaker 01

  Well, if the director is somebody who is, this is the torture of, not torture, but the torment of how we work now, is that if there's people who are great directors, or you think they're on to something, like Wayne, when I worked with him, he wasn't famous. But when they're on to something, you, you do what they want to do. Let them lead you. But then with other people, you have to be self-directing, which is tough.

• 49:32Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 49:33Speaker 01

  You have to decide, "Well, I think this is what I should do." And guys will walk up to you and go, "Oh, don't do that, or don't do that." See, one thing you always do, I know this is, we're digressing, but one thing you always try to do is, how much of a performer is the character? So when Glenn Gary, that guy was a performer. He'd gone around the New York real estate world and beyond.

• 49:51Adam Friedland?

  Yelling at you.

• 49:51Speaker 01

  Well, straighten them out.

• 49:53Adam Friedland?

  Being a real meat guy.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, the motivate is their word. And so whenever you do films and things like that, you have to wonder, is the guy... Like, I always say the same tired line, which is that Robert Duvall plays Boo Bradley in To Kill a Mockingbird. He doesn't have one line. It's one of the most shattering performances you've ever seen in your lifetime. So, well, acting is physical, acting is emotional, acting is interiority, all these different things. And you, uh, when you're doing something with a director, and they don't get what you're doing, it's, uh, it's tough.

• 50:23Adam Friedland?

  You and Mamet, and especially in Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross, it's so testosterone driven.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  Right.

• 50:28Adam Friedland?

  Right? And they're so masculine, those scripts.

• 50:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:31Adam Friedland?

  Like, uh...

• 50:31Speaker 01

  They're tough.

• 50:32Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, you're in a, in a world where you put on costumes and you pretend to be other people, but you, you're... The theatrical arts are not, like, there, there's a sensitivity about them, but like...

• 50:42Speaker 01

  Well, you can walk in, you can walk onto the set with Mamet, and, and you say to yourself, "The films he's directed, that he's written, have been less successful than the scripts he wrote that other people directed."

• 50:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 50:55Speaker 01

  But that can't influence what you do. You have to go in with people and always say and think the best. I'm not just saying this to be warm, you know what I mean? You go in there, you don't want to predict failure. I've made movies where the other actor or actress was someone who I didn't quite understand what they were doing.

• 51:12Adam Friedland?

  Sucked.

• 51:13Speaker 01

  And I didn't quite understand why the director wasn't on them.

• 51:15Adam Friedland?

  Who was it?

• 51:18Speaker 01

  And, uh...

• 51:19Adam Friedland?

  Liz Lemon?

• 51:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 51:20Adam Friedland?

  We were all thinking it.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  She's the opposite.

• 51:22Adam Friedland?

  She's the funniest person on earth.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Well, she's such a unique person, you know, because she's so funny in that way. I mean, you realize that when I worked with them, I wasn't funny when I worked with them.

• 51:33Adam Friedland?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  Well, no, no, but I'm being, I mean, I've done some SNL, but the point is this, but I really mean this. I learned not to be funny, but I learned what was funny. A lot of things you see now on TV, I mean, a ton of it, is more cute than funny. And, and Tina's funny. I mean, they'd hand me scripts. We'd do a Wednesday read-through, and they'd hand us the script on a Wednesday morning, and I'd read it in the makeup chair. And then we'd go up to a lunch conference room, which had, uh, cameras to beam us to Burbank for the executives in California to watch the read-through at 12:00 noon. And we'd be, and they'd hand me the script, I'd read it. I'd go see, uh, Robert Carlock.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  For the lunch read through and I look at him, I go, are you fucking kidding me? You want me to do, you're out of your mind, you want me to do this? Which was I was like a gay Mexican soap opera star, playing against myself, doing the Patty Duke thing. And he was like, and Karavak always said the same thing, he said, it's a big swing, it's a big swing. But we know you can do, we have faith in you.

• 52:27Adam Friedland?

  It's fun too, right?

• 52:28Speaker 01

  I was, I never had more fun in my life.

• 52:30Adam Friedland?

  The scene, there's a particular scene which I think your performance is a masterclass in like comedic acting, but it's the scene where you take Tracy to meet the NBC therapist. And you play, you can play like 12 different characters.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  I bust up a shipper robe.

• 52:48Adam Friedland?

  And he starts engaging.

• 52:49Speaker 01

  It's a whole line.

• 52:49Adam Friedland?

  It's, it's just, it is like a perfect scene. I, I actually, just this morning remembered another scene of yours, which I, literally made me pee my pants when I was a kid, really younger. But along came Polly, when you're pissing next to Ben Stiller. And then you like, you tenderly like squeeze his earlobe.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 53:09Adam Friedland?

  And then you start massaging, like after you've been pissing. And you're his boss, of course, it's, it's just, um.

• 53:15Speaker 01

  I knew she was a dime store whore the woman I like.

• 53:18Adam Friedland?

  Dude, I, who had the vision that, like, who knew you were funny? Cause you're gonna do this like, I, I'm not funny at all, I'm just an actor, but like, was it Lorne? Like, did Lorne?

• 53:27Speaker 01

  I went and did SNL the first time and what I learned was unless you're Stallone or Schwarzenegger, where they're gonna make fun of your persona, if they're not gonna do that, you gotta become one of the company and just pull your pants down and make an ass of yourself.

• 53:39Adam Friedland?

  Is it more fun?

• 53:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I loved SNL because you would never, there's things you do, not all of it, but there were things you would do that you would never do anywhere else.

• 53:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 53:48Speaker 01

  To have that experience, you had to do that show.

• 53:50Adam Friedland?

  Like Little Canteen Boy?

• 53:52Speaker 01

  I don't think he was Little Canteen Boy.

• 53:54Adam Friedland?

  What is it?

• 53:55Speaker 01

  I think he was Strapping Canteen.

• 53:56Adam Friedland?

  Oh, that's what it was.

• 53:57Speaker 01

  Oh, no, no, I was, no, I was the scout manager, he was, you're right.

• 53:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we used to live in a fucking.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  Sandler.

• 54:03Adam Friedland?

  Better, yeah, yeah.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, Sandler.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  They got more complaints about that sketch than any sketch they had up until then.

• 54:07Adam Friedland?

  It was pretty funny, honestly. Do you, do you ever fear that like, your perception as a celebrity might overshadow, like, the very reason why you're a celebrity?

• 54:17Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, you have to be very careful. I tell people all the time who are young, I'm like, don't. See, the people who are the biggest stars, you know the least about them.

• 54:24Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 54:24Speaker 01

  And they control them.

• 54:25Adam Friedland?

  I would be a ghost.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause if you go out, if you, if they see you doing things in public and it's not appealing or attractive, it's not, it's not gonna help you. Like, I, I mean, I felt like, if guys were. Seventy-five feet away with a long lens and they took your picture, I never cared. It was when they got up close and almost hit my wife in the teeth with the lens of their camera.

• 54:44Adam Friedland?

  I mean, I would get super pissed off too.

• 54:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I did get, I mean, I took the bait more than once.

• 54:49Adam Friedland?

  But it's not the bait, they're fucking hitting your wife in the face with a camera.

• 54:53Speaker 01

  Almost, yeah.

• 54:53Adam Friedland?

  Was the first time you got paparazzi like kinda cool? Were you like, dude, I must be sexy guy?

• 54:58Speaker 01

  No, I hated them from day one.

• 54:59Adam Friedland?

  You hated them day one? But there's an Italian guy following you around, he's like bella bella, you know? I don't know what they're like, I've never gotten one.

• 55:07Speaker 01

  Well, here it's, here it's gone from like a, you see, you're too young to remember, like, here it's gone from like a very, very obscure corner.

• 55:15Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  The entertainment spaces are room, they were often a little corner. And all this kind of salacious gossiping stuff was very, very, very like third or fourth tier.

• 55:24Adam Friedland?

  I feel like we didn't know about people's lives.

• 55:26Speaker 01

  And now it's, it's an industry, and now they're gonna, going on, and making a fool of famous wealthy sports figures, music figures, entertainers of whatever, actors, businessmen, Musk, whoever, politicians to humiliate them and embarrass them publicly. That's a huge industry now, a very big industry. So they're out there with nets trying to catch something.

• 55:46Adam Friedland?

  I, I feel like I'm lucky that I'm not a punishing guy. I'm more of a like, I'll psychologically destroy you, play the long game, yeah.

• 55:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, you stare at them.

• 55:54Adam Friedland?

  Do you think that you were characterized as a, as like a, like a-

• 55:57Speaker 01

  A bully.

• 55:58Adam Friedland?

  A tabloid fixture?

• 55:59Speaker 01

  As a bully, I bullied these photographers. I went up to one girl one time-

• 56:02Adam Friedland?

  The guys ever try to take a picture of your newborn child?

• 56:06Speaker 01

  Well, one guy walks up, he, we're coming out of our building and we're walking down the block and he's walking backwards. And he's really big, he's like six-four, he's tall. He's a big guy, you know what I mean? And he doesn't pay attention, and he trips and falls and sits on a baby in a stroller that's behind him.

• 56:21Adam Friedland?

  Your baby?

• 56:22Speaker 01

  No, no, somebody else's, a woman's coming this way, and he's going backwards, and he falls onto the, and sits on the baby in the stroller. And I thought to myself- Well, I won't say what I've thought.

• 56:31Adam Friedland?

  You're like, "It's my fault."

• 56:33Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 56:34Adam Friedland?

  I'm a really...

• 56:35Speaker 01

  We should just chop him up now, right here.

• 56:37Adam Friedland?

  I wanted to mention something to you that I've felt, and I've been... It's kind of like been dawned on me since I was like doing the research for you. And it's going back to what I said, it's like that your celebrity sometimes can... has overshadowed kind of...

• 56:54Speaker 01

  My reputation is what you mean.

• 56:55Adam Friedland?

  But it's just like...

• 56:56Speaker 01

  You use the word celebrity.

• 56:57Adam Friedland?

  Or...

• 56:57Speaker 01

  You're being coy.

• 56:58Adam Friedland?

  Yes, public life, right? Something I've picked up on is like, I watched your reality show, right? And...

• 57:05Speaker 01

  Why?

• 57:06Adam Friedland?

  Because like, I was being thorough, but like, it really dawned... The first thought I had was like, is this what you have to do these days? Like, in a moment of extreme, like, personal crisis, like...

• 57:19Speaker 01

  I'm weeping in a conference room with some publicists, and I go, "What can I do to clean up this massive...?" And they go, "You can have seven kids."

• 57:27Adam Friedland?

  Is it, but like, what I'm saying is, is like, for me personally, I've like, I'm not into like celebrity gossip, but when I heard about what happened, right? It didn't sound real to me.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Where?

• 57:39Adam Friedland?

  Right, in New Mexico. It didn't sound like a real thing that happened in the real world. I think we probably made jokes about it, like, it didn't dawn on me until I was doing research for the show. And I really felt like it would be something that you would carry for the rest of your life. And it's just, it kind of dawned on me that like, people don't perceive public figures as real human beings, perhaps.

• 58:05Speaker 01

  I think that in that case, among countless things I could say, was the idea that when my case imploded, it was over. And it was over not because of a statement of a jury or of the cleverness of my lawyers. The judge ended the trial.

• 58:20Adam Friedland?

  It was thrown out, yeah.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  The judge terminated the trial. She thought, "This is enough, this is just insane." And when that happened... A friend of mine, a woman who's an attorney, very famous attorney, she said to me that what bothered her was, she said, "Once they couldn't get you, it was over." "The case didn't continue. They're not out there looking for the guy that brought the bullets onto this. They're not doing... Once they attempted to frame you and they couldn't do it, it ended." Which that should be of grave concern to everybody that lives in that community, that it just imploded because they didn't succeed at their other thing.

• 58:54Adam Friedland?

  Certainly, but beyond that, like, I've, I looked at like the way that it's discussed in popular discourse and on the internet, like, I looked at Reddit, and...

• 59:03Speaker 01

  Well, Reddit's bad.

• 59:04Adam Friedland?

  It's bad, but it seems like...

• 59:06Speaker 01

  It's ugly.

• 59:07Adam Friedland?

  People don't process it in a way that this is clearly something that is not someone's fault. Instead, they kind of, in a very unfair way, assign blame to you.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  It's funny to them.

• 59:20Adam Friedland?

  No, it's not funny. Funny is like, at least like...

• 59:21Speaker 01

  Well, a lot of it, they try, they think it's funny.

• 59:23Adam Friedland?

  Funny is at least like ironic. I think people that genuinely assign blame for something that's like literally, you know, that you'll carry for the rest of your life, and it really upset me, especially because I've been like revisiting all your work, that like this, that this thing could overshadow like what is so beloved about you.

• 59:42Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, on one hand, you say to yourself, you say "carry for the rest of your life." I don't really carry anything for the rest of my life, meaning, do I feel overwhelmed and pained by the suffering and the tragedy of what happened? Yes. But do I feel responsible? No.

• 59:58Adam Friedland?

  No.

• 59:59Speaker 01

  Because what happened was, we remember, they decided to leapfrog over or pole vault over the whole idea that, in the previous several days we were doing the film, we did a protocol that we did the same thing, and nobody came up to me in my shooting in the film.

• 1:00:13Adam Friedland?

  You don't have...

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  Well, what I just want to say, because you did bring it up, one, two, three, four, five days, no one came up to me and said, "Hey, let's do it this way." It was only after the fact that they said, "Oh, we're supposed to do it this way." But let me just close.

• 1:00:24Adam Friedland?

  I don't want to...

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  But I'm going to end on a positive now.

• 1:00:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, no, but...

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  But let me just say this, which is that, having my kids, and having all these children, I'm sixty-seven years old, I got a three-year-old baby, so I got a lot of kids at home, little kids, and they saved my life. And I'm sure the same is true with you, which is that you get to the point where, I mean, I'm older now, but when you get to the point where you think less about where you get love than where you give love.

• 1:00:46Adam Friedland?

  Yes.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  One of the more frustrating and even painful things in life is you have nobody to give your love to. You might have a lot of love to give in your heart to people. Your parents are gone, what have you. And with my kids, it's like, I have a lot of love to give and I have all these kids around me all day long. And I'm not really do- I wasn't doing very much for the last three and a half years.

• 1:01:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  I was home all the time and they saved me. They saved my life. To have that exchange of like love energy with these children who are all, you know, and they all make fun of me. Like I show them pictures of me from old movies and like, here I am with Michael Keaton.

• 1:01:18Adam Friedland?

  You're a piece of ass though.

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  Well, no, no, but here I am with Michael Keaton. I had a good month. I had a strong month back there in the eighties.

• 1:01:24Adam Friedland?

  Honestly, they should shut the fuck up.

• 1:01:25Speaker 01

  But I had a picture of me with Michael Keaton and Gina and me and Beetlejuice. And they go, that's me. That's me there with the, you know, dark hair and I'm thin.

• 1:01:32Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you had the lumberjack. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  And they, and they, and they, my kids look at it, they're like, no, no, that's, they put Michael Keaton. They're like, that's you. That's you. I'm like, no. Beetlejuice.

• 1:01:42Adam Friedland?

  He's a cool guy.

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  He's a cool guy.

• 1:01:44Adam Friedland?

  What I'm saying is this is like, um, you're an artist, right? And, uh, you're motivated in your craft. You still have artistic ambitions, right?

• 1:01:52Speaker 01

  A couple.

• 1:01:53Adam Friedland?

  What, what, what would you define as being?

• 1:01:55Speaker 01

  I want to do a play. I'm working on a play. I don't want to get into too much detail, but I'm working on a play right now. With a writer who I admire, this incredible writer who I've been friends with for years, who's, my admiration for him is boundless and he, um, is gonna write a one man show for me. There'll be ancillary characters.

• 1:02:09Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:10Speaker 01

  But I'm gonna play the lead role in this one man show, which is a real historical survey of the United States post-Cold War. And, uh, it's one figure that we funnel the whole thing through and he's the prism of the whole thing.

• 1:02:22Adam Friedland?

  Who is it?

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  And I don't want to say.

• 1:02:24Adam Friedland?

  Hoover?

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  Right, Hoover. Right, no Hoover. I don't want to play Hoover.

• 1:02:27Adam Friedland?

  They made Hoover. Nixon.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  Uh, no, no, I, but anyway, not somebody you'd come, not somebody you'd be off the top of your head, you wouldn't.

• 1:02:34Adam Friedland?

  Kissinger's gonna, Pusser here got, the Jew was a natural spy. I can say that.

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  The times were run by these Jews.

• 1:02:41Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. He really, he, he really, it drove him nuts.

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  He was an anti-Semitic maniac, yeah.

• 1:02:46Adam Friedland?

  Well, he wasn't anti-Semitic. I mean, this guy was just, his entire life, he wouldn't take no for an answer and he just kept running for crap. I mean, you know, the pretty boys like stole the election from him, you know.

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  They may have.

• 1:03:01Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:01Speaker 01

  When you.

• 1:03:02Adam Friedland?

  But he still made it to the top and then he was still kind of alone, you know, that's the thing about him. And then they kicked him, they kicked him out. For what spying on the other, I'm not a Republican, but like spying on the other guys, they have to all be doing that.

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  A governor needed to be spied on.

• 1:03:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, he was lost by a zillion.

• 1:03:21Speaker 01

  Let's get back to the exchange of the love energy, shall we?

• 1:03:23Adam Friedland?

  Okay, wait.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  When you're in bed with your girlfriend.

• 1:03:25Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:26Speaker 01

  And try to, her name is Pat?

• 1:03:28Adam Friedland?

  Nixon, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  I was gonna say her girlfriend's name is Pat.

• 1:03:31Adam Friedland?

  Can I escort you on dates? Yeah, I just watched her get slammed, yeah.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  So, but the thing is, is that, so you're there in the house and maybe the time, as they say in those like, those Osti Spomati commercials, whatever, like, you know, the time is right. When do you know the time is right? When do you know she, you and she are gonna, well, sex or love or whatever.

• 1:03:52Adam Friedland?

  When she lets me.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  She says, she signals.

• 1:03:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, she's the girl, that's the rules, right?

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  Is that what it is? You don't, you don't pin her on the ground.

• 1:04:00Adam Friedland?

  I'm not gonna go there, I'm a gross guy, I wanna have it all the time.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  She leads.

• 1:04:04Adam Friedland?

  I'm still, yeah, of course.

• 1:04:05Speaker 01

  She turns to you and she's like, let's go.

• 1:04:06Adam Friedland?

  I mean, that's the rule, I mean, that's the system.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  Is that what you do?

• 1:04:09Adam Friedland?

  I don't wanna, you know, because when you do it and she's like, ugh, I have, I feel disgusting.

• 1:04:13Speaker 01

  So you don't walk in, you have a drink, and you're looking to go, get your clothes on.

• 1:04:16Adam Friedland?

  You know what the worst thing in the world is? Is when they're on their period, their boobs are a little bit bigger. And we forget every month, so we're like this, and then you get slapped, and you're like, I'm disgusting.

• 1:04:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:26Adam Friedland?

  And it's like, fuck.

• 1:04:26Speaker 01

  It's a symptom.

• 1:04:27Adam Friedland?

  The period thing again.

• 1:04:28Speaker 01

  It's a symptom.

• 1:04:29Adam Friedland?

  I'm an idiot, I fell for it again, God is laughing up there.

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  She wants you to take control, touch, take my hand.

• 1:04:35Adam Friedland?

  No, she's, no.

• 1:04:37Speaker 01

  You're gonna reach for her in any, any curve you wanna squeeze, don't take no for an answer. Shove her on the bed, just shove her on the bed.

• 1:04:44Adam Friedland?

  I, I don't, I, do you think a wo, do you think a woman?

• 1:04:50Adam Friedland?

  Do you think like, um, if I learned how to kill, uh, someone with my bare hands, do you think I'd get more respect from my girlfriend?

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  What is this, a Hitchcock movie?

• 1:04:59Adam Friedland?

  I don't know. What the fuck are you talking about? I just feel like if, uh, as a, as a man, she should be like, this guy could-

• 1:05:03Speaker 01

  I want you to take, I'm only gonna say, take, if you don't know what I mean by this, then you're hopeless, just take charge.

• 1:05:07Adam Friedland?

  Which, really-

• 1:05:08Speaker 01

  Women want you to, women want you to decide where you're gonna go to dinner.

• 1:05:10Adam Friedland?

  Should, can we, can we prank call her in a-

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  Guess where we're gonna go, we're gonna go to blah blah blah.

• 1:05:13Adam Friedland?

  Can we prank call her in a-

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  Can we prank call her right now?

• 1:05:14Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, she doesn't wanna be on the show.

• 1:05:16Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:05:16Adam Friedland?

  She doesn't even know, she, she doesn't even know that I'm successful.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  She doesn't need my help, you do.

• 1:05:20Adam Friedland?

  What, I'm not, what am I gonna for-

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  Take charge.

• 1:05:22Adam Friedland?

  What am I gonna force my, what, I'm gonna put her in a ball gown and then do a, do a, do a waltz and then-

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  You're gonna walk up to her blouse and you're gonna rip it open.

• 1:05:29Adam Friedland?

  Really? I, I think she'd yell at me for her, for her shirt. It's fine, dude.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Get a boxer shirt, do it every night.

• 1:05:36Adam Friedland?

  She stops me from getting hit by a car like at least once every two weeks. It's a good system we have.

• 1:05:43Speaker 01

  Take charge.

• 1:05:44Adam Friedland?

  I don't know.

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  The reservation, you come home, you have sex before and after dinner.

• 1:05:49Adam Friedland?

  Reservation? What the hell do I know from restaurants? Wait, can I, can I go back-

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  And you order in.

• 1:05:53Adam Friedland?

  To the love thing you were saying?

• 1:05:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:55Adam Friedland?

  Um, you, you, you've lost your parents?

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, my parents have died.

• 1:06:00Adam Friedland?

  So, yeah, I lost a parent like five years ago and, uh-

• 1:06:03Speaker 01

  Who was it?

• 1:06:04Adam Friedland?

  My mother, the best, it's the best, the twin, the best one. But that's kind of what, what my major takeaway was. And you know, it's really corny, guys, don't just, it's so embarrassing what I'm saying of, my boy, dude. But, uh, you know, it's like why all the, all songs are about, and like poetry, like, most movies are about love. And I think it's like, the first time I ever saw like a point to anything was, uh, that our family was all together and, uh, it kind of, yeah, it, it gave me a new appreciation.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  I think a fun experiment for you or anybody, especially because you're so young. I mean, I'm older now. And my, uh, my, my, uh, garden is planted here, so to speak. But for you, it's like, remember, always at least entertain the idea that your private life is exactly different from, is completely different from your- Professional.

• 1:06:52Adam Friedland?

  What do you mean?

• 1:06:52Speaker 01

  You're a certain way here, then when you go home, you mix a drink, you rip the shirt off, you throw her on the bed.

• 1:06:57Adam Friedland?

  So I should say to people on the show that I do that?

• 1:07:00Speaker 01

  No, no, no, you should be who you are that's gotten you here.

• 1:07:03Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, and she's like, I have cramps and stuff, and then I've already torn all the clothes and I'm

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  You're damn right.

• 1:07:07Adam Friedland?

  I'm hard and stuff, I'm like, then I have to go to the bathroom and jerk off.

• 1:07:10Speaker 01

  You could have left that, you could have left all that out, let's cut that.

• 1:07:12Adam Friedland?

  Wait, you don't curse. You're not a, you're not a, you don't

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  Well, I can curse, but I'm just trying, I don't know, I don't know.

• 1:07:17Adam Friedland?

  I'm just saying that if she has cramps or a headache, and then I've done all that, then I'm like, what the

• 1:07:22Speaker 01

  At least you tried.

• 1:07:23Adam Friedland?

  Well, yeah, but then there's the torn clothes, and then I'm like, uh, I'm the

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  Stop caring about that, stop caring.

• 1:07:28Adam Friedland?

  And then I have a boner, then I have to go to the bathroom and jerk off, like a loser.

• 1:07:34Adam Friedland?

  Wait, can you just

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  Goodnight, everybody.

• 1:07:40Adam Friedland?

  I wanna, I wanna just

• 1:07:41Speaker 01

  I got time for one more, ask me an important question.

• 1:07:44Adam Friedland?

  Okay.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  It doesn't involve your boner or her period.

• 1:07:46Adam Friedland?

  What the hell, what you, what, I'm sorry dude, I wasn't the hottest guy in the world, and I did have sex with a thousand women.

• 1:07:52Speaker 01

  But you will be, go ahead.

• 1:07:53Adam Friedland?

  Why do you have a good personality, why do you have a personality at all?

• 1:07:57Speaker 01

  As opposed to

• 1:07:58Adam Friedland?

  As like a hot guy with like, uh, that, you know, like, why, I had to develop a personality because I thought that I would never find a wife.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  So take your mind off the fact that you

• 1:08:08Adam Friedland?

  I think that you were, you've probably like, uh, you've probably always been great with the ladies, and you developed, you're, it makes me

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  Angry.

• 1:08:15Adam Friedland?

  Why is a guy that looks good also funny? It's kind of our thing.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  I'm not that funny, yeah.

• 1:08:20Adam Friedland?

  No, you're funny, bro.

• 1:08:21Speaker 01

  Um, I

• 1:08:22Adam Friedland?

  You told me to do that whole thing to my girlfriend, that was hilarious.

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  I think you should just, take charge, I said, just take charge. Um, all right, so the last thing I'll say is this, and that is that, uh, the more and more you work in this business, and the more and more you care less about the outside, so to speak. Like when I was younger, dye my hair, style my hair, the clothes, the this, the that. And then eventually I got seven kids, and I thought, I don't have the time for this.

• 1:08:46Adam Friedland?

  You also had the chest music, too.

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  Is that what happened?

• 1:08:49Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, that was when chest music was big, when he was a hunk, he had like

• 1:08:52Speaker 01

  I had surgery, I had my, uh, skin cancer.

• 1:08:54Adam Friedland?

  Really, I'm sorry about that, yeah.

• 1:08:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, thank you.

• 1:08:56Adam Friedland?

  I can't grow chest hair.

• 1:08:57Speaker 01

  You don't have any hair on you?

• 1:08:59Adam Friedland?

  Low testosterone, probably, or

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  You don't have any hair, you have any pubic hair?

• 1:09:02Adam Friedland?

  Oh, my balls, yeah, yeah, I'm a lot, yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  So when you have a boner, when she went and had sex with you, you have a boner, it's a hairy boner, or it's a hairless boner?

• 1:09:09Adam Friedland?

  Well, you gotta trim around the base.

• 1:09:10Speaker 01

  It's a dolphin, or it's a

• 1:09:11Adam Friedland?

  Get an extra inch, probably.

• 1:09:12Speaker 01

  Or some shrubbery, what is it?

• 1:09:14Adam Friedland?

  That's what, um, okay, what last? What, I'll just one last one.

• 1:09:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:09:20Adam Friedland?

  Okay.

• 1:09:20Speaker 01

  Make it count.

• 1:09:21Adam Friedland?

  I have to ask you this, and what do you make of the allegations that still follow you to this day concerning the Boss Baby's treatment of employees and the toxic work environment?

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  I can't comment on that.

• 1:09:36Adam Friedland?

  My follow-up question is, can a voice actor be held responsible for a cartoon?

• 1:09:43Adam Friedland?

  I'm really sick of famous. They just, this is a hot.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  I will honestly say, and I tell people, they go, "What's your favorite movie? What do you think is the best movie you ever did?" And the answer was Boss Baby. I, Boss Baby's the perfect movie. I love Boss Baby.

• 1:09:54Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  It's great. I think it's great.

• 1:09:56Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 1:09:56Speaker 01

  I think, I said, it's amazing. Better than Departed.

• 1:09:59Adam Friedland?

  What was the, what was the company of the Boss Baby?

• 1:10:02Speaker 01

  Uh, Tom McGrath was the, uh, director. I love Tom.

• 1:10:05Adam Friedland?

  What were they doing, though, at the company where he was the boss?

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  Oh, uh, Baby Corp.

• 1:10:10Adam Friedland?

  Baby?

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  Baby Corp. Wanting people to have babies.

• 1:10:13Adam Friedland?

  Sounds sinister.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  Wanting to have baby, have babies and not pets.

• 1:10:15Adam Friedland?

  They were making people have sex with each other?

• 1:10:17Speaker 01

  Well, that just came with the character.

• 1:10:19Adam Friedland?

  That's what the Boss Baby's about. I gotta watch that movie.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:21Adam Friedland?

  I think I'd missed it. What it, didn't the Boss Baby have a button under his desk that would lock the door?

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  That's Matt Lauer.

• 1:10:27Adam Friedland?

  Okay.

• 1:10:31Adam Friedland?

  There you go.

• 1:10:37Speaker 01

  All right.

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