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• 0:00John Coogan?

  Everyone has 10-year AGI timelines right now. It started when Sam Altman put out that post, like, "Superintelligence is just a few thousand days away." And at the time, it was kind of odd because, like, when he wrote that post last year, everyone was like, "AGI is one year away." "AGI is two years away." It was like, "Fast takeoff time." Like, everyone was very excited. And then he came out and was like, "It's a few thousand days away." And so Sam came out, and you know, and he was kind of, in his blog post of the "Superintelligence Age," talking about, you know, "Maybe we're a decade away." Then Andre Karpathy goes on Dwar Kesh, just a couple months ago, a couple weeks ago, says, "AGI is a decade away." And then Dwar Kesh posts this probability density of when AGI will be achieved, there's a chance that America does it, there's a chance that China does it, and the median, the 50th

• 0:45John Coogan?

  percentile, was exactly 2035.

• 0:47Jordi Hays?

  And, you know that chart, that like, very schizo chart that says, "Periods when to make money?" Have you seen this floating around on X? And it's like, it was created, like, I guess about 100 years ago. People reference it anytime it, like, actually aligns to events, because it basically has years in which panics have occurred, years of good times, high prices, and time to sell stocks, and years of hard times, low prices, and a good time to buy stocks. And so it's basically like astrology for stock picking, right?

• 1:20John Coogan?

  And what is it saying right now?

• 1:21Jordi Hays?

  2035 is a year, is, they're predicting, is when a panic will occur.

• 1:26John Coogan?

  Ooh, interesting. Well, that certainly aligns with all these AGI timelines.

• 1:29Jordi Hays?

  There you go.

• 1:30John Coogan?

  And then I was looking at Meter, and this one we'll have to debate a lot more, but Meter has been tracking AI's ability to complete long tasks, and it's growing exponentially. It used to be like, 6 seconds, now it's like, 2 hours, and, you know, when you talk to anyone who's in the AI field, they'll tell you that the agents are getting more and more capable of handling longer, longer time horizon tasks. The question is, I feel like humans don't have a time horizon. I feel like humans, they're just born, and the goal is like, survive, be fruitful, multiply, right? And so, I feel like if you're tracking the Meter data, you need to get out to like, Thirty years, like a full career, right? Like, the prompt needs to be like, go make money.

• 2:15John Coogan?

  And then it just goes and becomes a lawyer and, you know, lives its full life and retires after after thirty five year run. And of course, when you track out the doublings, uh, one in twenty thirty five, uh, the meter is projecting based on that log curve that, or that log, that log graph, that AI will be able to have a time horizon in the, in the decades. My read on the meter data is that, you know, AGI twenty thirty five again, it's maybe the messiest, the, the, the least like definitive. But what's interesting is that it just feels like ten years is this consensus right now. And there's much less diversity of opinion. There aren't that many people saying two years anymore. There aren't that many people saying fifty years anymore.

• 2:59John Coogan?

  Everyone's kind of saying ten years. And I just wonder, like, let's put aside, like, let's try and accurately predict when this thing happens. And let's just analyze it from a psychological perspective. And like, what does it mean when the tech community all has a consensus of something that's a decade? Like, a decade away could just be what people say when they don't know. Like, if you ask me when flying cars are gonna happen, I'm gonna say a decade. If you're gonna say when quantum computing, oh, that'll be a decade. Oh, uh, Mars, yeah, that's a decade.

• 3:30Jordi Hays?

  Most people under, overestimate what they can accomplish in one year and underestimate what they do, what they can do in ten years. And in this situation, we're just like, yeah, we're estimating that we can just achieve AGI in ten years.

• 3:43John Coogan?

  When I personally feel like about AGI, like, I'm convinced by these. Like, I feel like AGI is ten years away. And I don't feel like I'm like coping or doing some sort of like mental logic jumps or something. It's just like, if you actually forced me to put a prediction down, I probably would say about a decade. Then I go to, well, well, like, how should I actually be changing my behavior? Like, if something big is coming in a decade, it feels like you should actually, should not just be acting normally. It, it feels like there's some sort of preference falsification going on. Like, how many, everyone's saying a decade. How many people are actually acting like it's a decade? Like, what should you be doing in the intervening years if it's a decade away? Like, are you just supposed to like?

• 4:27John Coogan?

  Build technologies that are fun little dopamine rewards. Are you trying to like accumulate as much capital as possible before?

• 4:33Jordi Hays?

  Who plans around 10 years at all, right? People tend to go for things that they want today.

• 4:40John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:40Jordi Hays?

  In some ways, right? So if somebody like, let's say they're in their twenties.

• 4:44John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:44Jordi Hays?

  They're like, I want to own a home.

• 4:45John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:46Jordi Hays?

  By the time, by 2035.

• 4:47John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:48Jordi Hays?

  They want that thing today. And so they, but they might understand, okay, it's going to take some time to get there.

• 4:53John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:54Jordi Hays?

  But actually making real changes in your life for this like impending scenario.

• 5:00John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 5:01Jordi Hays?

  Hard to predict.

• 5:02John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 5:02Jordi Hays?

  Entirely.

• 5:03John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 5:03Jordi Hays?

  It's very, very difficult. And I don't know that, you know, it was maybe more popular earlier this year to joke about, you know, uh, uh, what, you know, the golden retriever maxing.

• 5:15John Coogan?

  Right?

• 5:15Jordi Hays?

  Oh, yeah. We would, we would talk about this, right? But it feels like that dialogue has kind of changed.

• 5:21John Coogan?

  Uh, Tyler, what, what do you think about my take? What do you think? Uh, what do you agree with? What do you disagree with?

• 5:26Speaker 02

  Um, I, I think it's definitely interesting that people seem to kind of align around this 10 year thing. I think there's also some sort of bias, right? If you think AI is coming in three years.

• 5:34John Coogan?

  Mm hmm.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  You're probably not just going to be like writing blogs, like you're, maybe you're going to start a macro hedge fund. Maybe you're going to go work at one of the labs to like, really try to influence how it's going to happen, if it's going to happen super quick.

• 5:45John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  So I think there's some sense of that. Um, and if you really don't believe AGI is coming at all, then like, you're also probably not going to be writing blogs about AGI. You're just going to be like.

• 5:54John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  Doing your normal job or whatever. So I think there's some like confirmation bias there.

• 5:59Jordi Hays?

  Tyler's probably the most AGI propelled person on the team. And so it's interesting that you're, you kind of.

• 6:07John Coogan?

  I think.

• 6:07Jordi Hays?

  Day to day acts like everyone else on the team.

• 6:10John Coogan?

  Yeah. What, what's your biggest revealed preference?

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Hmm. That's hard to say.

• 6:14John Coogan?

  Maybe just hanging out on the show.

• 6:16Jordi Hays?

  Yeah, just hanging out, podcasting instead of going to universities. Just like, yeah, nothing matters.

• 6:20John Coogan?

  This clip of Alex Wang that's sort of going viral, people are dunking on it, uh, because he recommends that kids learn to vibe code. And I just disagree with the haters. Like I, I think the haters are wrong on this one. And I was thinking about like, well, I have a kid, like, would I teach him to vibe code? And I was playing with Legos last night. I was assembling Legos. And from what I've done vibe coding and what I've done Lego's, I'm like, this is going to be very fun. And this is going to be an activity that we do together. And I'm super, I'm like super in agreement that I think learning to vibe code is good. What do you think, Tom?

• 6:53Speaker 02

  I think like the point of view of like the people hating where that like, oh, your 13 year old should be like making B2B sass, which is like not, that's different than saying they should be vibe coding. Cause vibe coding is just like, it's like basically playing a video game where it's like Minecraft mod or something. That's like, seems totally fine.

• 7:09Jordi Hays?

  Yeah. Some of the criticism, some of the criticism was like, you should just be doing really hard things. You have to ask is like, okay, should 13 year olds like only be hand coding? Like if you want to get them into maybe making, doing engineering work, is it, should they be doing it with the pen? Like what, what is the alternative? When I was 13, I was working on little iPhone apps and knowing the vibe coding tools that are available today, I would have been able to make way more progress. I would have had a lot more fun. It would have been like having an expert, like software engineer sitting next to me, kind of like pair programming, right? And so I'm on your side. I think, I think people generally just, just don't like Alex

• 7:54Jordi Hays?

  because he's been wildly successful.

• 7:56John Coogan?

  He's basically the youngest, most successful person in the world. With Alex Wang, it's like, yeah, he's rich and I have no idea what the thing he, I don't interact with it at all.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  Uh, fun fact. So in fifth grade, um, in the yearbook, they asked like, what you want to be? I put investor.

• 8:10John Coogan?

  Investor in fifth grade?

• 8:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. I didn't even really know what that meant.

• 8:15John Coogan?

  SoftBank's big profits jump this quarter came from OpenAI's increased valuation. That SoftBank lifted higher by buying shares from employees and selling them at a higher price. And so there is a question about is this too circular? It's unclear if SoftBank was really the price setter on this deal, but Dar, just Dario is certainly.

• 8:38Jordi Hays?

  Just Dario saying SoftBank booked a capital gain on an investment it hasn't paid for and recorded in its assets.

• 8:45John Coogan?

  That creates.

• 8:45Jordi Hays?

  There's a scenario where you. Do this if you were a company that invested in a fund.

• 8:49John Coogan?

  Yes.

• 8:50Jordi Hays?

  And it's called maybe some capital, but not all of it yet. And so you can show that there's a gain, even though you haven't paid, actually paid in the capital yet.

• 8:59John Coogan?

  Yes.

• 9:00Jordi Hays?

  Uh, but I think the way in which SoftBank is doing this.

• 9:03John Coogan?

  Don't VC firms.

• 9:04Jordi Hays?

  Doesn't seem illegal, but I think it's non-traditional. Uh, Sophie, uh, over on X says SoftBank is selling its Nvidia stake to fund companies whose main expense is buying from Nvidia. The more important thing here is that this is not the first time, uh, Masa has exited Nvidia. He exited.

• 9:21John Coogan?

  Okay.

• 9:21Jordi Hays?

  In 2019, before the run-up, uh, he was then Nvidia's largest shareholder. Uh, and he had a five percent, five percent stake in the company that he sold for 3.6 billion. And it would now be worth over 200 billion.

• 9:39John Coogan?

  Are people mad about this because they think Nvidia is going to rip further?

• 9:42Jordi Hays?

  Selling your stake in Nvidia.

• 9:44John Coogan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:45Jordi Hays?

  So basically SoftBank is booking profits.

• 9:48John Coogan?

  Sure.

• 9:49Jordi Hays?

  OpenAI profits. They are then selling Nvidia shares to fund the original investment in which they've already booked the profits on. And the number one driving force behind Nvidia's growth is OpenAI.

• 10:01John Coogan?

  Today, we will get the SoftBank completely sold out of Nvidia fear from bears on mainstream media and Wall Street. Does anyone do objective research anymore? SoftBank initially bought its Nvidia stake through the Vision Fund in 2017, then exited completely in January 19. They missed it. They lost patience. Not the first time. Yeah. When did they buy this latest slug? That's the question. SoftBank sold 32 million shares of Nvidia in October. Also sold part of its stake in T-Mobile for 9 billion. It's not the first time they've cashed out of the chipmaker. That's a funny way to put it. Despite the sale, SoftBank remains tied to Nvidia through its other ventures. Yeah, that makes sense. Warren Buffett says he's going quiet, the world's most famous investor. Warns against corporate greed as he prepares to hand over the reins of Berkshire Hathaway.

• 10:46John Coogan?

  The 95 year old will step back from day to day responsibilities at Berkshire at the end of this year when he retires from his role as chief executive. Craig Abel, of course, is coming in. Investors have long seen Buffett often called the oracle of Omaha as a corporate folk hero, interspersing guidance on his portfolio companies' performance with life and business advice. He noted, for instance, that requirements for executive compensation disclosures backfired as business chiefs engaged in a race to earn more than rivals. What often bothers very wealthy CEOs, they are human after all, is that other CEOs are getting even richer. Buffett said, envy and greed walk hand in hand. Buffett added that Berkshire should try to avoid future CEOs who are looking to retire

• 11:31John Coogan?

  at 65 or who want to become look at me rich or initiate a dynasty. Look at me rich.

• 11:37Jordi Hays?

  Buffett has never been photographed doing a money spread, wearing Balenciaga, Rick Owens.

• 11:43John Coogan?

  Yeah, so he, he took the pledge to give away, to give away his wealth. And so it's going to be a pretty big changing of the guard. There's that interesting stat that like, if you go back 30 years ago, when Buffett was 65, he was, I don't think he was close to the richest man in the world. He, he compounded a ton in his third 30 year run, like from 65 to 95, he had a particularly good run that took him from pretty rich to one of the richest people in the world. It's very rare. We just don't see that many business executives or that many like people broadly where that's

• 12:28John Coogan?

  like the, the highlight of the career is 65 to 95. Buffett has commissioned no plays, no poems, no symphonies, no operas, no ballets, funded no paintings or sculptures that will outlive him, endowed no theaters, choirs, orchestras, built no monuments, monasteries. Is this true at all? He's committed to giving away half of his wealth. So like some of the money is going to wind up with the opera, I imagine. Just because it's going to go out and get diffused amongst all the different charity efforts. It's not going to all go into one thing. Howard agrees with him on this. He says he's right. The greatness does not come about through accumulate accumulating great amounts of money, which is what he is known for. But beyond that, it's fortune cookie level advice. It's not wrong, but that's about it.

• 13:10John Coogan?

  His partner Charlie Munger's contribution to architecture was to fund factory like college dorms in which a majority of the apartments don't have windows. The is it was that UCSB? Where is that?

• 13:20Jordi Hays?

  Yeah.

• 13:21John Coogan?

  Have you have you been to that dorm?

• 13:22Jordi Hays?

  He made the donation.

• 13:24John Coogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 13:24Jordi Hays?

  There's some reference to it on the campus, but they abandoned the plans to build a windowless dorm.

• 13:30John Coogan?

  So it's so Soviet. It's extremely Soviet. I don't know.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  I thought there were fake windows and they were like TVs essentially, but they would show like outdoor scenes.

• 13:44John Coogan?

  It should be a vertical TV windows that you can just put Sora on. Is it safe to take the other side of this and just say that like? He was about to create the greatest lock in of all time.

• 13:53Jordi Hays?

  What if he was basically saying like college students spend very little time in their actual dorms?

• 13:57John Coogan?

  Yep.

• 13:58Jordi Hays?

  Because they're out and about in the world. They're studying, the library, they're at events.

• 14:02John Coogan?

  Totally.

• 14:02Jordi Hays?

  They're really just using the dorm to sleep. Why don't we create common areas that have windows?

• 14:06John Coogan?

  Yes.

• 14:06Jordi Hays?

  An outdoor area that then you go in your pod.

• 14:09John Coogan?

  This is Eric Adams floated a similar idea to Munger, calling for stripping legislation that promises each citizen, each city citizen window access this past March. You don't need no window where you're sleeping. It should be dark, he said. The $2,000 dividend could come in lots of forms. Let's play the clip.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  You know, it could, the $2,000 dividend could come in lots of forms and lots of ways, George. You know, it could be just the the tax decreases that we are seeing on the president's agenda. You know, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social security, deductibility of auto loans. So, you know, those are substantial deductions that, you know, are being financed in the tax bill.

• 14:55John Coogan?

  Tyler, do you feel like this?

• 14:57Jordi Hays?

  How is that going to help the day trading community?

• 15:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was planning on doing rampant speculation with this $2,000. What am I going to do now?

• 15:05Jordi Hays?

  You're actually, you're basically fully, you've already committed the funds, right?

• 15:09John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Jordi Hays?

  Yeah, I've already placed a ton of parlays.

• 15:12John Coogan?

  Yes.

• 15:13Jordi Hays?

  So like, what am I supposed to do now?

• 15:16John Coogan?

  I can't pay my parlay bill with a tax decrease on auto loans.

• 15:21Jordi Hays?

  Yeah, you're not looking for passive income. You're looking for massive income. Bro, I'm looking for massive income.

• 15:27John Coogan?

  They should put a button on the IRS website that allows you to either receive the $200 stimmy check, or if you press the button, you have a 50/50 chance of getting either $4,000 or zero.

• 15:41John Coogan?

  I really think a lot of people would press that button. Two of the world's biggest data center developers have projects in Nvidia's hometown that may sit empty for years because the local utility isn't ready to supply electricity. Forty-eight megawatts. What are we doing? That's, that's child's play.

• 15:56Jordi Hays?

  A data center for ants? Calm down, people. Masa's son is a male, Kathy Wood. Him selling Nvidia today means Nvidia has plenty of upside left.

• 16:06John Coogan?

  It is.

• 16:07Jordi Hays?

  It is. I mean, it just comes down to he will take. He's selling Nvidia. He's going to give that money to OpenAI, and then OpenAI is going to give it to Nvidia.

• 16:15John Coogan?

  Yeah. Sold.

• 16:17Jordi Hays?

  Jan LaCoon.

• 16:18John Coogan?

  He's out.

• 16:19Jordi Hays?

  Says, "See ya."

• 16:20John Coogan?

  He's out.

• 16:20Jordi Hays?

  He's out.

• 16:21John Coogan?

  He's out.

• 16:21Jordi Hays?

  Uh, from Meta. He's going to launch his own startup. Tyler, what's your reaction?

• 16:27Speaker 02

  Um, I mean, this is pretty big news. I, I think people have kind of expected this for a while.

• 16:31John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Uh, basically since Alexander Wang came in.

• 16:33John Coogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Um, because Alexander Wang kind of, in some sense, like took over as like the chief AI person at Meta, which was.

• 16:41John Coogan?

  Not enough room in this town for two AI.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  Not enough room for.

• 16:45John Coogan?

  Chief scientists. Yeah.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:47John Coogan?

  Not enough room in this town for two chief AI scientists.

• 16:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and so, uh, Jan is like very goaded AI researcher.

• 16:54John Coogan?

  Yes.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  He's been in the game for like super long. Today, he's like very much seen as being bearish on LLMs.

• 16:59John Coogan?

  Sure.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  Doesn't think they can reason. He doesn't think they can like do novel tasks or whatever. Um, so he's been like very outspoken about that. I think that's maybe part of the reason why he's, he just has like kind of a, a different vision from, from Zuck and Alexander Wang. I've read exactly what it's called, but he has like another kind of path that he sees to AGI. He's, he's, he's still a professor at, uh, NYU, which I think is where he does most of his research these days.

• 17:21John Coogan?

  Interesting.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  Um, so I think he'll probably just stay in academia.

• 17:25Jordi Hays?

  Does he have any active classes going on this semester? Because if he does, we should send you onto the campus to study.

• 17:34John Coogan?

  Do we have an update from Brian Johnson? He came back from his, his trip. He was on psychedelics. I feel like I'm expecting him to fall in love with at least one fast food restaurant. I want him to to flip around on at least one and say, okay, yeah, I'm I'm an in and out guy now. He's been, he's been quiet. I I do wonder if he'll, if he'll update on anything, or if he's just like so, so powered through that it just will not affect him at all. Because like, wasn't, he was kind of framing it as like, I'm, I'm, this is like a big deal. It seems like he got through it just super fine.

• 18:15Jordi Hays?

  Saw a very viral post of of somebody saying, I don't think it's a good thing that billionaires can talk about taking schedule one drugs publicly with no repercussions. Did seem that he was doing it like this seems like such still such a gray area where you can get it prescribed by a doctor, but it's still schedule one. He posted an update on on his experience. He also talked about more about why. He says there's potential, it's potentially a longevity therapy for psilocybin expands lifespan in mice. It can reduce inflation markers tied to aging. It can increase brain entropy, breaks rigid patterns and boosts long term cognition

• 19:00Jordi Hays?

  and flexibility. And

• 19:03John Coogan?

  Yeah, I don't know. I kind of agree with that, with that, that person who was, who was saying like, they shouldn't be able to talk about it publicly. I feel like he should have a disclaimer or something because there's going to be, there's people, he has such a huge audience, there's going to be some people that just look at what he did and just run straight into five

• 19:22Jordi Hays?

  In the early podcast era,

• 19:23John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:24Jordi Hays?

  You had Tim Ferriss,

• 19:26John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:27Jordi Hays?

  who, to his credit, was like, doing work on himself,

• 19:31John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:31Jordi Hays?

  and would share what he was doing.

• 19:33John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:34Jordi Hays?

  But he would talk about doing things like ibogaine,

• 19:37John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:37Jordi Hays?

  which is like a cra, you know, super powerful psychedelic.

• 19:40John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:41Jordi Hays?

  And he wasn't directly saying, hey, I think you should go take this. But when hundreds of thousands of people like follow Tim for health advice, it's sort of is like an indirect, it's somewhat of an, it's somewhat of an endorsement, even if it's not directly. So.

• 19:59John Coogan?

  No, no, I mean, I a hundred percent think some people will see this and be like, oh, looks like he had a good experience. Let me jump straight to exactly his protocol, which is clearly not accessible for the average person. Like, he has been building up a tolerance to this particular chemical for probably a decade. And so it's going to hit him very differently than it will someone who's not in the same place. We were joking yesterday about like, oh, if he wanted to like really challenge himself, he would have been at like a crowded concert or something. And there are going to be people that see this post and wind up actually doing that and winding wind up in a very, very rough spot.

• 20:38Jordi Hays?

  I did see some people responding and saying, I took a similar dose to this and basically ruined my year. I have joked in the past, it's like, are psychedelics going to fix your life? Or just doing the tasks that you've been avoiding? Is that going to make you feel relief? You know, is that going to make you feel better about your life?

• 20:55John Coogan?

  It's like that meme of like the anime ninja, if you're tired, do it tired. If you're sober, do it sober. Right? If you're sober, do it sober.

• 21:04Jordi Hays?

  Twenty sixteen, so almost ten years ago, it says, digital addiction is going to be one of the great mental health crises of our time. And Blade says, Unc had this thought and immediately was like, how do I profit from this? The greatest to ever do it, DBH.

• 21:21John Coogan?

  Like, if you're, if you're trying to like layer up like the, the OpenAI is bad like case. Like, you don't start with like, the product's too addictive. Like, I don't think that's the claim. The claim is like, it uses too much water or like it like one shots people or it does erotica or it's like AI slop. But very few people are saying like, oh, yeah, people are on their phones too much and it's because of OpenAI now. People are on their phones too much, but it's because of Instagram and it's because of like social media, actually not the AI chat app.

• 21:52Jordi Hays?

  Because of Sora.

• 21:53John Coogan?

  I think it's a little bit too early to say that. I don't think it's that, I don't think it's working that well.

• 21:57Jordi Hays?

  Certainly short form video.

• 21:59John Coogan?

  Have you ever been in, in, in like the gym or in a coffee shop and seen someone scrolling Sora? Like over in the shoulder? I haven't seen it.

• 22:06Jordi Hays?

  I meant, I meant vertical video broadly.

• 22:09John Coogan?

  Totally, totally. Which is, I guess, I guess like a good take here, which is like, how do I profit from this? I gotta make an AI version of it. That's, that's probably like more of what they were thinking. In terms of actually profiting on, on like digital addiction, it doesn't seem like it's going very well.

• 22:25Jordi Hays?

  For, for oh. Seems to be extremely addictive.

• 22:29John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 22:29Jordi Hays?

  So much so that.

• 22:30John Coogan?

  Very for a very small amount of people, like absolutely.

• 22:33Jordi Hays?

  Yeah.

• 22:34John Coogan?

  For sure.

• 22:34Jordi Hays?

  Yeah, we don't know how many people.

• 22:36John Coogan?

  Yeah.

• 22:36Jordi Hays?

  And we hope you have a wonderful Veterans Day and we'll see you tomorrow.

• 22:43John Coogan?

  See you tomorrow.

• 22:43Jordi Hays?

  Cheers.