Pod Insights Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware Chris O'Dowd & Dawn O'Porter About this episode It’s time for a very special live episode with the iconic Chris O’Dowd & Dawn O’Porter, all in aid of the fabulous charity Choose Love. Recorded live at the Union Chapel with an incredible audience, mum rustled up a bunch of gorgeous canapés for our guests and she even brought a vat of her famous chicken soup for some lucky audience members. Chris & Dawn were just brilliant, we learnt about their Christmas plans, Dawn’s acting debut in the TV series Skins, what food was served at their wedding, Chris’ love of breakfast, why garlic holds a special place in their hearts, how Dawn put together the charity Choose Love, and this now marks the 3rd Irish guest this series mum has been able to talk about her Irish passport with! Choose Love does the most incredible work for refugees all over the world, and so far they have raised an incredible £120 million all going directly to those in need. Don’t miss the Choose Love store open on Regent Street in London until 31st December. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.
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1:04 Jessie Ware? Hello, welcome to Table Manners. This is a very special episode. We are backstage in the Union Chapel in Islington and we are going to be doing a Choose Love Christmas Table Manners Live special. And we have the most gorgeous guests, Chris O'Dowd and Dorna Porter. And Mum has cooked a lot.
1:22 Speaker 03 I've cooked a lot, darling.
1:23 Jessie Ware? Tell us what you've done, because we've done these live shows before and it's quite hard to eat and chat.
1:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, so I've just made little picky bits. Some sausages, some Parmesan crisps, some...
1:35 Jessie Ware? Crab meat with radicchio.
1:36 Speaker 03 Crab meat with jicchory, some prawns with coriander and chili. Yeah, just little things to pop in your mouth.
1:43 Jessie Ware? Gorgeous. And we have a dairy-free person and a gluten-free person. Your favourite kind of guest.
1:49 Speaker 03 My favourite kind of guest.
1:50 Jessie Ware? So we're going to be talking to the guests to a rammed Union Chapel. And we can't wait. It's for a really good cause. Choose Love do really important work for displaced people and refugees all around the world. And so everyone has bought a ticket tonight, and that's going towards Choose Love and the 41 countries that they help in crisis. And there's merch stand, so I'm going to be telling people to be buying some more merch. And it's just going to be a gorgeous. We haven't done a live show since Jordan Stevens.
2:20 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
2:21 Jessie Ware? Which was gorgeous. We love it. Our crowd are the best. Our audience are the best. And I can't wait.
2:49 Jessie Ware? Good e- oh, good evening, Union Chapel. How are we doing?
2:55 Jessie Ware? Oh, this is lovely. Hold on, I'm going to take my glasses off because I-
2:58 Speaker 03 Jessie, you can't see anything anyway.
2:59 Jessie Ware? I can't see anything.
3:00 Speaker 03 Can't see anyone. Is anyone here we know? Oh, thank God for that.
3:07 Jessie Ware? Thank you so much for being here tonight. This is a very, very important cause. And by you donating and paying for a ticket, you have just helped Choose Love so much. And refugees and displaced people worldwide get help. So, this is a live episode of Table Manners. Who has been to one of our live shows before? Okay, we've got some old timers over there. We've got some newbies. But we do have charitable people in the audience, and I may just have to ask you to spend a little bit more later. But we'll chat about that after you've had a few drinks, okay?
3:43 Jessie Ware? How are you, Mum?
3:44 Speaker 03 I think I'm okay.
3:45 Jessie Ware? You do- you look quite startled, Len.
3:47 Speaker 03 I am startled.
3:48 Jessie Ware? Why, you're spa- also, can we- I'm just going to let you know that Mum and I do talk on the phone about five times a day. However, we turned up with two outfits. Basically, Mum had one outfit that was the velvet with fluff, or a sparkle. We look like we're in bloody Abba. I don't know whether it's because we're so in sync now, Mum.
4:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, we're in sync, darling.
4:11 Jessie Ware? Or because we don't communicate enough to let each other know that we're in the same coast.
4:15 Speaker 03 I think I communicate, Jessie, but-
4:18 Jessie Ware? Can I just ask, who speaks to their mum more than twice a day?
4:24 Jessie Ware? Oh, their dad? Yeah, yeah, okay. How many are you on?
4:29 Jessie Ware? You live next door to your mum? Jeez, okay, that's lovely. That is good, that's great. That is lovely, yeah.
4:35 Speaker 03 Beware, Jessie.
4:38 Jessie Ware? I've told you to move to New Cross, you won't do it.
4:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, I will.
4:42 Jessie Ware? You will?
4:43 Speaker 03 Maybe.
4:44 Jessie Ware? I've got the granny, you just don't want to be in the basement?
4:46 Speaker 03 No, I don't.
4:47 Jessie Ware? No, fair enough.
4:48 Speaker 03 I want to be in the penthouse.
4:49 Jessie Ware? Okay, fine.
4:52 Jessie Ware? So you already know who the guests is today. Guests. And we are so thrilled to have this couple on today. Dawn O'Porter and Chris O'Dowd.
5:07 Jessie Ware? And, well, Dawn is a co-founder of Choose Love, so that's just really important and special, and she'll be telling us a bit more about that, but...
5:16 Speaker 03 Thank God, they're professionals as well.
5:18 Jessie Ware? I know. Who's got leopard print on tonight? Thank you. That's really good. It's fab. Any other leopard print?
5:28 Jessie Ware? Hi, what's your name? Becky!
5:32 Jessie Ware? Ooh, Becky, love it. I love it. You've got leopard print trousers on. Yeah, I need to get my... Who's got pearls? Anyone got pearl? No? Okay, cool.
5:42 Speaker 03 I've got my pearl on, Dawn.
5:43 Jessie Ware? Oh, thanks, Mum. Pushy Jewish mother, right over there, I love you. Right, shall we introduce our guests? Chris O'Dowd and Dawn O'Porter, please come to the stage!
6:09 Speaker 04 Hi, guys. Thanks so much for having us. Are you gonna take your coat off? I will. Are you staying? I was gonna see how the first couple of minutes went.
6:22 Speaker 04 Lovely spot you got here.
6:24 Speaker 05 I love this. I've never seen this. A napkin is in a little heart shape.
6:27 Jessie Ware? Can I tell you why? Well, choose love, obs. And that is a darling Sophia who works on our team and she's a lovely Greek goddess. Where are you, Sophia? Working somewhere hard. On more. How good is that?
6:41 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's really, it's really cute.
6:42 Jessie Ware? It's nice, isn't it? How are you today, guys?
6:45 Speaker 05 We're good. I'll speak for you.
6:48 Speaker 04 I'm well, I'm well, I'm good. I was away for the weekend. I was down seeing a friend in Weymouth. So I'm feeling slightly the worse for wear, not to, you know.
6:56 Jessie Ware? Good to know.
6:56 Speaker 04 That's the name of the new podcast. Surely that'd be a good one.
6:59 Jessie Ware? Worse for wear.
7:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, that's the day after the day before.
7:01 Jessie Ware? What did, what did you do in Weymouth? What's going on in Weymouth at weekends?
7:05 Speaker 04 We killed a man.
7:09 Speaker 04 But that wasn't the intention going in.
7:12 Speaker 04 I've revealed too much. We went down to see a friend who's moved down there and they were unwell. So it was his partner's fortieth. So we did some booging and we did some shaking indeed.
7:25 Jessie Ware? Good.
7:26 Speaker 04 And both of those things went well.
7:28 Jessie Ware? Were the, was the food good? What did you eat?
7:31 Speaker 04 There was a lot of snacks.
7:33 Speaker 05 Well, you said you had a disappointing burger.
7:35 Speaker 04 We did. Well, during the day, we, there's great food in Weymouth, you see. And so we put a bit of pressure on it and we just didn't live up to our own expectations. We kind of had a very mediocre burger and we were like, ah, what a shame. We miss an opportunity here.
7:51 Jessie Ware? Dawn, were you there too?
7:52 Speaker 05 I wasn't, no. I was weirdly in London having a terrible roast. I went to a pub. It took like an hour for the roast to arrive. I can't eat gluten. They put down this absolutely massive Yorkshire pudding and said, and I said, is that gluten free? And they went, yes. And I went, wow! Ate half of it and then just she like shaken back dive towards me, like grabbed it out of my hand. I was like, I'm sorry, I made a mistake. So there was that.
8:17 Jessie Ware? What happens when you eat that then?
8:19 Speaker 05 I basically go into labour.
8:21 Jessie Ware? Oh, man.
8:22 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's terrible. And so it kind of sent it back and everyone's very apologetic.
8:26 Speaker 04 Which is more fun than you'd think.
8:30 Speaker 05 And then the next roast chicken that arrived was raw. It wasn't cooked. It was really bad.
8:35 Jessie Ware? Did anyone else have a bad, a poor roast yesterday? Don't they all have a good one? Hold on, hold on, was that somebody saying they had a bad one?
8:46 Speaker 04 It's unusual. Even though there wasn't up there.
8:48 Jessie Ware? What was...
8:49 Speaker 03 I thought God was up there.
8:54 Speaker 04 And he had a terrible roast.
8:57 Speaker 04 That was his last supper.
9:05 Jessie Ware? What was so bad about yours?
9:08 Speaker 04 This is my issue with spice. It's always dry.
9:11 Jessie Ware? What, they didn't even give you gravy?
9:14 Speaker 04 Not moist, in the famous words of Rick Astley.
9:18 Jessie Ware? Are you moist? That should have cut... Okay, you know we're doing a quiz later. But for now, let's go back to fortieth anniversaries. You two met at your 30th.
9:27 Speaker 05 Yeah, it was. We were both living out in LA, but separately. I'd been out there for a year. And I was having a party. My friend had lent me her Pilates studio for my 30th birthday party, which is the most LA thing ever. We kind of moved all of the reformers to the side. And one friend bought me a dance floor for the night. And then two other friends, because I was born in Scotland, played bagpipes for me.
9:52 Jessie Ware? Are these all Ameri... Were they Scottish?
9:55 Speaker 05 They were all like expats.
9:56 Jessie Ware? Okay, got it.
9:57 Speaker 05 Yeah, they were Scottish men playing bagpipes. And then not that many people came, because I didn't know that many people. And everyone had left by 9:30. And Chris walked in. Chris had introduced himself to me on Facebook, weirdly, in the run-up to this party.
10:11 Jessie Ware? So he'd essentially tried...
10:12 Speaker 04 Because we were cool.
10:14 Speaker 05 And he said, "Do you want to go bowling?" And I said, "No, but I'm having my 30th birthday tonight, so just come and bring all your friends."
10:19 Jessie Ware? So was that you asking her out? Or trying to be a friendly person in LA?
10:25 Speaker 04 I'm just a big bowling fan.
10:29 Speaker 05 I don't know, we've still ever been bowling, have we?
10:31 Speaker 04 No, no.
10:32 Speaker 03 Had you ever been bowling before?
10:33 Speaker 04 No.
10:34 Speaker 03 No, okay.
10:36 Speaker 04 But I saw it on the telly and I was curious.
10:38 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:40 Speaker 04 I actually was coming over and I didn't really know anybody either. And so I asked a mate of mine who was also an actor, Nick Frost, lovely actor, if he knew anybody in town at the moment. And he said, "Oh, you should look Dawn up. I know Dawn a bit and she's a good crack." And so I sent Dawn a couple of friend requests on the Facebook. And forgetting that my profile picture on Facebook is an octogenarian Floridian lady. And so it's just this kind of old floral lady and Dawn didn't, this was 15 years ago, I suppose. So Dawn said no.
11:23 Speaker 04 Couple of times and then she was short on numbers for her birthday, so invited me along. And so I met her father.
11:30 Speaker 05 I was dancing with my dad.
11:32 Speaker 04 Early in the relationship.
11:33 Speaker 05 Everyone else had left and I was dancing with my dad on the, on the, on the dance floor that my friends got me. And, and then this guy just walked in.
11:42 Speaker 03 What was the song playing?
11:43 Speaker 05 Yeah. Oh, I don't remember.
11:45 Speaker 04 It's raining men.
11:49 Speaker 05 I just remember, I always describe it as this, I just remember like thinking the wingspan on this man, who just came towards me with his arms wide open and just, we just danced and he kind of flung me around. My dad obviously just stepped aside.
12:04 Speaker 04 Dawn's dad is like a guy my height with a beard from Scotland. And I'm still fairly sure she's drunk and thinks she's still dancing with him.
12:16 Speaker 05 It was just a straight swap from one Celt to another. But yeah, and I remember the next morning, I was in bed with my sister and I was like, that guy, I think I'm gonna marry that guy. And so I text my friend and I said, whose pilates studio it was. Oh no, I had to go there to clear up the pilates studio because at like 7am, because the classes start at 8 o'clock. And I remember I walked in and she went, I'm gonna marry that guy. And I was like, no, no, no.
12:42 Speaker 03 Oh no, back off bitch.
12:44 Speaker 05 So we had a little bit of battle and then she went, it's your birthday, you go for it.
12:47 Speaker 04 I let them decide.
12:53 Speaker 03 Did you fancy him straight away?
12:55 Speaker 05 I did fancy him straight away.
12:57 Speaker 03 Did you fancy her straight away?
12:58 Speaker 04 And before.
13:00 Speaker 03 Oh.
13:02 Speaker 04 I, well, I knew Dawn off the telly because she had done the docs. And I was like, oh, she seems cool and she was kind of doing interesting work and all of that.
13:11 Speaker 05 But when I Googled Chris, I was like, the IT crowd, what the fuck is that?
13:17 Speaker 04 I don't think she's seen it yet.
13:19 Speaker 05 No, I haven't. I think, I love it, but at the time I hadn't and I'm, so that was it. And then I think you moved in with me three months later.
13:27 Speaker 04 Well, you were fairly broke.
13:28 Speaker 05 I was, I was like, well, you move in and pay my rent. Yeah, I'm good.
13:32 Jessie Ware? Um, let's take it back to both your childhoods. Um, and.
13:37 Speaker 05 We weren't together.
13:40 Jessie Ware? Um, can you paint the scene of who was around the dinner table, where you were and what was a very memorable childhood dish? Dawn first?
13:49 Speaker 05 Well, I, I went to live with my aunt and uncle when I was 10 and suddenly food just became this unbelievable adventure. Before that, I'd been living with my grandparents and they weren't really into food. It's very basic eighties Finders crispy pancakes type food, which is fine and delicious. But then I moved in with my aunt and uncle and suddenly we grew up on Guernsey's. It's just like seafood and every, no meal was ever the same. Like there was capers and olives and side salads and just, and fresh oysters and just all of this amazing food and incredible Sunday roasts. And I just feel like I at age 10 got this like culinary wake up. And I've been really passionate about food ever since. And I, so that, but I remember just being so excited about what my auntie was gonna cook.
14:35 Speaker 05 Very buttery, salty seafood. I mean.
14:39 Jessie Ware? Delicious. And who was around that dinner table then? Your auntie, your uncle?
14:42 Speaker 05 They had kind of a big crew of mates. So there was a few different families. And I remember my uncle, we've got like a normal kind of eight seater table and he, my uncle built this big topper for it that would sit, I can't think about 16, so that would kind of get carried in on a Sunday morning. And then we would all just sit and yeah, a couple of families, loads of pets, loads of food and hours and hours and hours at the table.
15:06 Jessie Ware? And did you ever get involved in cooking any of those meals? Cause I know that you, you love to cook.
15:12 Speaker 05 I love to cook.
15:13 Jessie Ware? And you loved to host?
15:14 Speaker 05 I loved to host. I would have been helpful, but my auntie was definitely had it under control. But she would kind of call us in to do bits and balls. But I definitely picked up a lot of that really lovely kind of old school home cooking.
15:26 Jessie Ware? They're having a chat. What are you chatting about?
15:28 Speaker 03 I think he needs more tea.
15:30 Jessie Ware? Do you need more tea? Oh, yeah. More tea, vicar, please.
15:34 Speaker 05 Yeah.
15:36 Jessie Ware? Um, I, I think we have to go off to get our tea. Mum, ask Chris.
15:41 Speaker 04 I was asking you if you wanted to. No, I'm sorry, I was.
15:45 Speaker 03 Chris, what you might not know about me is that I'm actually Irish as well.
15:49 Speaker 04 Do you know what?
15:50 Speaker 03 Did you know that?
15:50 Speaker 04 There was something wonderful about you that I couldn't quite place.
15:55 Speaker 03 I have the passport anyway.
15:57 Speaker 04 Do you? Oh, good for you.
15:58 Speaker 03 My treasured harp-embossed passport.
16:02 Speaker 04 You know that it's the only passport in the world that has a musical instrument on the front of it.
16:06 Speaker 03 Is it?
16:06 Speaker 04 Which I think speaks to...
16:08 Speaker 03 It speaks volumes about the Irish, I think.
16:10 Speaker 04 There was a time that the harp was illegal in Ireland and Henry VIII would chop off the fingers of a person that was found playing it.
16:17 Speaker 03 You're kidding?
16:18 Speaker 04 No. So I think there's...
16:19 Speaker 03 Are you kidding?
16:21 Speaker 04 No, no.
16:22 Speaker 03 Is this a true story?
16:23 Speaker 04 No, this is true.
16:24 Speaker 03 Oh my goodness.
16:25 Jessie Ware? What?
16:25 Speaker 04 And therefore that's, I think, why it has such cultural significance.
16:28 Speaker 03 You weren't allowed to play the harp in Ireland, Henry VIII.
16:30 Jessie Ware? Is he taking...
16:31 Speaker 03 I don't know that he's teasing or not, Jess.
16:34 Speaker 04 Knowledge and humour are terrible bedfellows.
16:36 Speaker 03 They are.
16:38 Jessie Ware? Did we get Chris's childhood food?
16:40 Speaker 03 No, I'm just starting on that.
16:41 Speaker 04 I'm not sure, I got it myself, Jessie.
16:43 Jessie Ware? Has Mum told you that she's Irish yet?
16:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:49 Speaker 03 As is Sarah Jane, who's just got her passport.
16:53 Jessie Ware? Great. Brilliant. I now need the documents to get my... Yeah, cheers.
16:58 Speaker 03 So, where were you born?
17:00 Speaker 04 I was born in the north-west of Ireland.
17:02 Speaker 03 Called?
17:03 Speaker 04 Called Rosscommon. Well, I was born in Sligo, which is a few minutes down the road. Go up and you're... Under us! And so, I was the youngest of five, so it was a busy breakfast-dinner table. My mother, who is now a therapist, was a wonderfully cook, but I'd say a reluctant caterer.
17:22 Jessie Ware? Okay.
17:23 Speaker 04 Understandably. But did incredibly. And it was, you know, a lot of great... The produce up around where I am is gorgeous, loads of great... Oh, lovely butter and bread and shit, you know, all the proper... the sausages. Even, I was back last week, I'm like, there's something about the sausages.
17:41 Jessie Ware? The sausages are really good. Nana's sausages.
17:44 Speaker 04 They win quite a lot of awards.
17:45 Jessie Ware? Oh, not her actual sausages, but the sausages that she cooks.
17:49 Speaker 04 She's got pretty great sausages herself.
17:52 Speaker 05 I don't know how she'll feel about that.
17:55 Jessie Ware? We had Sharon Horgan, we did a podcast with Sharon Horgan, it's coming out soon, and she was talking about sausages on Friday night.
18:01 Speaker 04 There's something about the regulations in pork in Ireland that are different to make our pork better.
18:06 Jessie Ware? Okay.
18:07 Speaker 04 Oh shit, I'm, it's the wrong audience, isn't it?
18:09 Jessie Ware? No, no, I think it's fine, don't worry.
18:12 Speaker 05 Oh no, no, no, mum says that she doesn't eat, she couldn't possibly have bacon in the fridge, but has prosciutto there the whole time, don't worry about it, it's fine. We're fine. We're fine.
18:23 Jessie Ware? So, so sausages, it was, so it's fry up.
18:26 Speaker 04 Lots of stews, lots of, lots of stews, and we would have, I suppose, like Dawn had like a kind of a big Sunday roast and all that kind of vibe, although that feels like more of a British thing, I think. Like, we wouldn't have Yorkshire pudding or any of that kind of crack. I don't know what we would have instead, just maybe, not to be stereotypical, but just more potatoes.
18:48 Jessie Ware? Potatoes.
18:49 Speaker 05 You'd have probably a roast ham, would you?
18:50 Speaker 04 Oh, lots of ham, yeah.
18:52 Jessie Ware? Yeah. What's your favourite roast?
18:56 Speaker 04 I, it's one of those things where it's like, what's your favourite music? Where it's like, what mood am I in? I don't know, sometimes I'll be like, I'll want like a delicious beef roast, but also Dawn does an incredible chicken roast.
19:08 Jessie Ware? What's your favourite?
19:09 Speaker 04 Pork belly sometimes.
19:10 Speaker 05 I, I think, I think probably my favourite is a really, really good chicken.
19:15 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
19:16 Speaker 05 I also love, if I'm in a pub, it's a bit controversial, but I love a nut roast.
19:21 Jessie Ware? I am with you.
19:22 Speaker 05 I love a nut roast.
19:23 Jessie Ware? Because you can't be faffed to do it yourself.
19:25 Speaker 05 But when it's, when it's done and it's really herby and it's moist and it's just, and there's good gravy.
19:31 Jessie Ware? But how do you make the gravy if you're?
19:33 Speaker 05 Well, I'm not vegetarian or vegan, so I sometimes just say, oh, just give me the meat gravy.
19:37 Jessie Ware? Okay.
19:38 Speaker 05 And I do try and eat less meat these days, so sometimes I do have the vegetarian gravy, but I would often, if I'm having a roast, I feel like I've done a good deed with a nut roast. I just slip on the chicken and all as well.
19:49 Jessie Ware? Have we got, have we got any vegans or vegetarians in the audience tonight?
19:52 Speaker 05 Hello, welcome, and I would like to know, what do you do for your sexy gravy? Is it a lot of mushroom, umami stuff? What do you do?
20:04 Jessie Ware? Bisto. You what?
20:07 Speaker 05 Yeah, lovely.
20:08 Jessie Ware? Pepper sauce.
20:09 Speaker 05 Do you know what though? Jamie Oliver's vegan Christmas gravy is so delicious. And just as delicious or even more delicious than the meat version. You've just got to work at it a bit, haven't you?
20:22 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
20:22 Speaker 05 But that, Chris's brother and nephew came to us one Christmas. They were both vegan. And so John bought the vegan gravy. And it was, I chose it over my meat gravy that I had worked on for days. I like, but the vegan gravy was just so lovely.
20:40 Speaker 03 Who's cooking Christmas dinner this year?
20:42 Speaker 05 I'll cook it.
20:43 Speaker 03 Who's coming?
20:45 Speaker 05 Our parents.
20:46 Speaker 03 Both sets?
20:47 Speaker 05 Yeah.
20:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, we've got a bunch coming this year, don't we?
20:50 Speaker 05 It's, it's, uh, yeah, so Chris's mum and dad.
20:53 Speaker 04 We're gonna make them fight. We're gonna make the parents, like, the parents fight.
20:59 Speaker 03 What? Do they not get on?
21:01 Speaker 04 Just for our love. Just to see, we feel like after this year, we only really have the time for one set.
21:07 Speaker 03 Okay. Okay.
21:10 Speaker 05 Yeah, so strongest wins.
21:11 Speaker 03 So next year, you just have one?
21:13 Speaker 05 Yeah.
21:13 Speaker 04 That's it. It just feels easier.
21:16 Jessie Ware? Should we bring on some food now?
21:18 Speaker 05 Yes.
21:19 Jessie Ware? We're gonna try, you know how it is when we do the live podcast, it's more picky bits. So we did hear though, on a podcast on, that you particularly like chips.
21:32 Speaker 05 I love chips.
21:32 Jessie Ware? No, no, sorry, not chips. Sorry.
21:36 Jessie Ware? Sorry. I thought I was in, I thought I was in Los Angeles for a moment. Crisps. Crisps with potato salad.
21:43 Speaker 05 Oh god, this has followed me around. I was, um...
21:46 Jessie Ware? Well, you're about to get a whole plate.
21:47 Speaker 05 Lovely.
21:48 Jessie Ware? Please bring in the food, guys.
21:49 Speaker 04 That's my girl.
21:50 Speaker 05 Such a hungover moment, standing at the fridge, like... Full. Need carbs. Yeah. Salt and vinegar kettle chips and there was just some really lovely potato salad in the fridge. So I started loading the potato salad onto the crisps. And I was like, this is spectacular. And I said that on another food podcast. And then on almost every time I've ever talked about food publicly ever, they've been like, is this your favourite food? And I'm like, sure. It's, I mean, I, basically it is my favourite food.
22:19 Speaker 03 Well, we took you at your word.
22:21 Speaker 05 Good.
22:21 Jessie Ware? Well, no, we've got some other bits and bobs coming up, but I, that would not be my hangover go to, I have to say.
22:27 Speaker 05 Have you tried it?
22:28 Jessie Ware? I haven't. I'm a bit funny about anything that's a bit mayonnaisey. I don't like Russian salad. Keep that away from me.
22:33 Speaker 05 Yeah. Oh.
22:34 Speaker 04 What is your hangover food?
22:36 Speaker 03 What's your hangover food?
22:37 Jessie Ware? Marmite.
22:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:38 Jessie Ware? Lots of marmite, um, buttery bread.
22:42 Speaker 04 What's the receptacle?
22:43 Speaker 05 Hello, everybody.
22:43 Speaker 04 Oh, hello.
22:44 Jessie Ware? Okay, right, so. We have.
22:48 Speaker 04 Look at you with your sausage.
22:49 Jessie Ware? Also, this is Jo, who helps us out on the podcast.
22:52 Speaker 04 Hi, Jo.
22:53 Speaker 05 Hi.
22:54 Jessie Ware? And, um, and that is, that is producer Alice. It's a family affair here.
22:58 Speaker 05 Oh.
22:59 Speaker 03 Beautiful.
23:01 Jessie Ware? So, yeah, just tuck in. There's like, you're dairy free and you're gluten free.
23:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:05 Jessie Ware? And so there's a bit.
23:06 Speaker 03 No pressure, yeah.
23:07 Jessie Ware? But, but, but Dawn, you did say on your desert island dishes that you love the task of having a dietary requirement.
23:14 Speaker 05 I love cooking so much and I love the challenge of cooking.
23:17 Jessie Ware? Sorry, I'm just trying to get an answer here, man.
23:18 Speaker 05 That if, um, if someone is coming over and they, and I say dietary requirement. So we were doing a Thanksgiving two years ago in LA when we lived there and we had 16 people coming over. And there was, you know, I'm gluten free. We had some dairy free. And then there was a gluten free vegan who doesn't like mushrooms. Like, that's hard.
23:38 Jessie Ware? Yeah, that is hard.
23:39 Speaker 05 And so, um, he was being, his girlfriend and him were being very apologetic and they were like, we'll just bring food. And I'm like, you're not going to bring a lunchbox to my fucking Thanksgiving. I can't. So I will do this. And I took the challenge and I, I love the challenge of a dietary requirement.
23:55 Jessie Ware? Lenny, do you love the challenge of dietary requirements?
23:58 Speaker 03 I might, my back didn't today. I thought, how did they get, how did they get, oh, one's dairy free and one doesn't have gluten. What are they eating together?
24:07 Speaker 04 Well, I'm actually not really dairy free.
24:11 Speaker 03 He's eating Parmesan crisps, of course.
24:14 Speaker 04 I basically just don't like, if I drink loads of milk, I get itchy.
24:18 Speaker 03 I was never gonna give you milk.
24:19 Speaker 05 Yeah, you could have told us that, Chris. Could have told us that.
24:22 Speaker 04 But apparently like Parmesan, I think is okay. I don't know if that's a funny word, because it's a hard cheese.
24:27 Speaker 03 Is that right?
24:28 Speaker 05 Mum, did you make them Parmesan crisps? Mum, they look amazing.
24:32 Speaker 04 Hold on, did you make them?
24:33 Speaker 03 They're very easy.
24:34 Speaker 05 They are gorgeous.
24:36 Speaker 03 No, you just put a teaspoonful on a baking tray and then cook them in the oven for three minutes.
24:44 Speaker 05 That is a good little.
24:45 Speaker 04 They're delicious.
24:46 Speaker 05 That is a good Christmas, who's having a Christmas party here? Is anyone, yeah.
24:51 Jessie Ware? I think that would be really good for a party, Mum.
24:53 Speaker 03 What, darling?
24:54 Speaker 05 The Parmesan crisps.
24:55 Speaker 03 I know that, darling. I serve it all the time.
24:58 Speaker 05 What's this?
24:59 Speaker 03 That's crab with radicchio.
25:03 Speaker 05 Delicious. Do you know what, I was eating with the microphone here.
25:08 Speaker 03 Are you worried about it?
25:09 Speaker 05 And then I realised, no.
25:10 Jessie Ware? We've got, I don't know if Jenny is here, but we do give her a shout out. There's a lady that wrote in saying that she loves hearing the mastication. So just do one for Jenny.
25:18 Speaker 03 If you just keep chewing, she'll be really happy. Yeah.
25:23 Speaker 04 Hey. Can you hear the crabs in my mouth?
25:30 Speaker 04 Hope that turns you on.
25:33 Speaker 03 So after you'd taken her bowling. After you'd taken her bowling for your first date?
25:40 Speaker 04 Yes.
25:40 Speaker 03 Did you?
25:41 Speaker 04 No, we never got there.
25:42 Speaker 03 You never got bowling, right?
25:43 Speaker 04 She had other ideas.
25:44 Speaker 03 Okay. How, you, you, you, when did you get married?
25:49 Speaker 04 It must have been a week and a half later, I suppose.
25:53 Speaker 04 But wait, what, a week and a half? Oh my God. Three years, maybe.
25:58 Speaker 05 Three years, yeah.
25:59 Speaker 03 And where did you get married?
26:01 Speaker 04 On a, on a boat down the road there.
26:04 Speaker 05 Do you know the Battersea Barge?
26:05 Speaker 03 Yes.
26:06 Speaker 05 Such a little venue.
26:07 Speaker 03 Yes.
26:08 Speaker 05 So we did Family and Friends on there and did the official thing. And then we did a wild and wonderful full shebang in a very illegal venue the next day.
26:16 Jessie Ware? Oh, I love that.
26:17 Speaker 03 And who did the catering?
26:20 Speaker 04 Oh my God, they were wonderful.
26:23 Speaker 03 Doesn't matter the name, but what was it?
26:24 Speaker 04 It was pies.
26:25 Speaker 03 Pies?
26:26 Speaker 04 Yeah, we sweet. Three different types of pies that we had, so we like at these like, uh, as a one thing. Gorgeous gravy.
26:34 Jessie Ware? Yum.
26:35 Speaker 05 Big bowls of potatoes and salads and things, but yeah, they went round with trays of pies and you could choose the vegetarian one, chicken and tarragon, or a beef one.
26:43 Speaker 03 Delicious. Gluten free?
26:45 Speaker 05 No, at the time I was very much ignoring that.
26:47 Speaker 04 There was none of the shit there.
26:48 Speaker 03 None of this shit there, thank god.
26:51 Speaker 05 Um, it was, the food was amazing. And then because Chris is Irish, I'm from Guernsey, but I was born in Scotland. So for the reception food, we did in each corner, there was a station with food from that place.
27:06 Speaker 03 Oh, I love it.
27:07 Speaker 05 So we did like little pots of Irish stew, do you remember, and Colcannon?
27:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, oh, that was so yum.
27:12 Speaker 05 And then we did, I can't remember what the Scottish thing was, but then we did for Guernsey, there's this kind of, um, bean jar, which is the local, it's like a local bean stew, little gorgeous little jam jars of that. And then we did something very London as well. So we did a little, and probably an American thing as well, maybe there were five corners of this.
27:28 Speaker 04 We got married right at the height of mason jars being popular.
27:31 Speaker 05 Yeah. I think actually we did a lot for mason jars. We launched them.
27:36 Jessie Ware? They were de- they were definitely in my Pinterest for my wedding, so yeah.
27:39 Speaker 04 We had a lot of striped straws.
27:45 Speaker 04 Fairy lights, you know the vibe.
27:47 Speaker 05 I'm enjoying this food so much.
27:49 Speaker 03 Oh, you, please.
27:50 Speaker 05 The Parmesan crisp in the crab, like crab is my love language.
27:53 Speaker 03 We found a new winner, okay.
27:54 Speaker 04 What have we got going over here?
27:56 Speaker 03 What? Oh, they're little prawns in coriander.
27:59 Speaker 04 And this fella here?
28:00 Speaker 05 What is that?
28:01 Speaker 03 What darling?
28:02 Jessie Ware? Is that smoked salmon?
28:03 Speaker 03 I can't see, oh, they're smoked salmon.
28:04 Speaker 04 Oh, it's mousse.
28:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm not sure about the mousse. Oh, quail's eggs, fancy pants.
28:09 Speaker 05 I'm just making sure I chew in for your aroused listener.
28:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:14 Jessie Ware? Oh, yeah, do a crunch.
28:15 Speaker 03 Just let's go quiet, let's listen.
28:17 Speaker 05 Okay.
28:18 Jessie Ware? And we'll ask the audience if anyone else is aroused.
28:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:21 Speaker 05 Is anyone aroused?
28:22 Speaker 04 Oh, that egg just popped in my mouth.
28:25 Speaker 05 Did it? I love a quail's egg.
28:27 Speaker 04 That was for the listener.
28:28 Jessie Ware? Are you gonna, I thought you were gonna do an arousing crunch?
28:31 Speaker 05 I think I did, didn't I?
28:32 Jessie Ware? Oh, all right, okay. Um, so you're a great hope.
28:39 Jessie Ware? You're welcome.
28:42 Jessie Ware? So, we ask every guest their last supper, but we're gonna have to combine yours. Well, we don't have to, but if you both have a very separate one, it's the last supper before you're going somewhere for a very long time.
28:57 Speaker 03 Oh, they're going together, Jess.
28:59 Jessie Ware? I don't know.
29:00 Speaker 04 We will.
29:01 Jessie Ware? Is it heartbreaking? Okay, they're going together, okay.
29:03 Speaker 04 We will.
29:06 Jessie Ware? How is it being married to a very funny man? Is it exhausting?
29:14 Speaker 05 It's wonderful.
29:15 Jessie Ware? Is it, but like, do you, do you, has he, you're funny, but do you feel like you've made each other funnier? Or do you just sit in silence? Do you have to like, like, I don't know, I wanna know.
29:27 Speaker 04 I think we've made each other runnier.
29:33 Speaker 05 Have we made each other funny? We definitely have. Chris taught me a really great word once. Do you remember it? Do you remember the word you taught me?
29:38 Speaker 04 I taught you so many words.
29:40 Speaker 05 No, the word you taught me about the way we talk to each other, do you remember that?
29:42 Speaker 04 Vernacular.
29:43 Speaker 05 Oh, vernacular. He taught me the word vernacular, which I just thought was a brilliant word. And we do have a very kind of unique, we do this thing, like, you know how when you're being funny with somebody, you've got a sense of humour with somebody, and then you take it out into the wild, and people are like, "What the fuck are you doing?" The one thing we do is, we repeat.
30:05 Jessie Ware? I found out, Chris O'Dowd is a snorter.
30:07 Speaker 05 A snorter. We repeat sounds, so if we're sitting in a restaurant, and outside, a car beeps the horn, we go beep beep.
30:19 Speaker 04 And we've started taking quite pride in like, how close to the sound of the streets we can mimic.
30:25 Speaker 05 And we'll go to each other, that was really good, that was really, that was really good.
30:27 Speaker 04 Good siren.
30:31 Speaker 05 There's a lot of that.
30:33 Speaker 03 That sounds fun.
30:34 Speaker 04 It's like being married to toddlers.
30:37 Speaker 05 It's great. You love a dog bark.
30:38 Speaker 04 I do love a dog bark.
30:39 Speaker 05 Yeah, and I love a car horn. Meow, meow.
30:43 Speaker 04 What a fucking ledge.
30:45 Speaker 05 That was a good one.
30:47 Speaker 04 She can car horn with the best of them.
30:49 Speaker 03 She can, I can hear. I wondered, do you know, if he's told a funny story, when you go out, you say, "Oh, you must tell them that story, that really funny story," and he goes, "I've told it about 88 times." Do you do that to him?
31:04 Speaker 05 No, I don't think so.
31:05 Speaker 03 Oh, good.
31:06 Speaker 04 There's never been a moment where she'd wanted me to speak more.
31:11 Speaker 05 I think Chris has got quite a good gauge of, for his own personal entertainment, would start to tell a story that maybe he'd told multiple times, and almost his inner monologue would be, "I've heard this a thousand times, can't be bothered." Like, you would stop yourself telling a story because you would want to be entertained by the story as well.
31:31 Speaker 04 I find myself so boring. You know, that I find company important, but also, it's like, "Oh, the fucking anecdotes of life. Like, what's the point, Jesus? Like, pulling my own hair out of my voice."
31:44 Speaker 05 I do think there's a difference between being a very funny person, and it's so much of your job, than being somebody who has to write an hour of comedy and stand on stage and deliver. And when you come off from doing that, and everyone just expects you to be really funny all the time, that must be so hard.
31:59 Speaker 03 It must be.
31:59 Speaker 05 It's like, we just want you to be singing constantly. You're not allowed to not be singing.
32:04 Speaker 03 Are you giving us a song tonight?
32:06 Speaker 05 As I was saying that, I was like, there's a- I'm not gonna fucking sing a song tonight, Mum. Stop asking.
32:10 Speaker 03 I would like to hear your first one.
32:11 Speaker 04 Yes.
32:16 Speaker 05 Guys, it's not gonna happen. You could've come to False Idols on Saturday and heard me sing, all right?
32:23 Speaker 05 So, back to your last supper. Starter, main, pud, drink of choice.
32:31 Speaker 05 Am I gluten free in this?
32:32 Jessie Ware? You can be whatever you want.
32:36 Speaker 05 I love like a really garlicy, chorizo-y, tomato-y, chilli bake with some sort of melted cheese in the middle and like toasted ciabatta for a starter.
32:51 Jessie Ware? Wow. Have you had this somewhere?
32:53 Speaker 05 I cook it.
32:54 Jessie Ware? Oh, yum.
32:55 Speaker 05 Well, I haven't for years, but that would be... I remember we had some people over for dinner once and I cooked that and it was one of the most successful things I've ever cooked. And just like in a big earthenware pot, just cooked that, just like three hours of chorizo and tomatoes and we all just dug in and it could have been the whole night, it was so delicious.
33:13 Jessie Ware? But the burps are bad on chorizo.
33:16 Speaker 05 They are bad.
33:18 Speaker 04 You've got some absolute affirmation over there about...
33:21 Speaker 05 Hey, Barbie!
33:23 Jessie Ware? That's the vegan.
33:25 Speaker 04 If you want to ever meet anybody who's belched.
33:29 Speaker 05 They're over there.
33:30 Jessie Ware? But, okay, so you're saying because you're gluten free you wouldn't have the baguette, but you can get kind of... you'd have the baguette for the last supper?
33:36 Speaker 05 Yeah, if it was my last supper, definitely.
33:37 Jessie Ware? That sounds delicious.
33:39 Speaker 05 Yeah, lovely.
33:39 Jessie Ware? Okay, so Chris, would you go for a similar starter or what are you doing?
33:47 Speaker 04 I was trying to think of this soup that we used to have in this steak restaurant and I think it might have been an asparagus and fennel soup. That you would have sometimes as a bit of a palate cleanser before you have a kind of very heavy steak.
34:06 Speaker 04 And I want that.
34:07 Jessie Ware? Do you know which restaurant it was at?
34:09 Speaker 04 It was La Ciotte, which is... you know that place in Marylebone where they just do steak and they cut it up and give you loads of chips?
34:16 Speaker 05 There's always a queue.
34:18 Speaker 03 I know, but you can't get in, the queue goes right.
34:21 Speaker 04 Longchamp.
34:23 Jessie Ware? No, what's it called? Who knows the place in Marylebone?
34:25 Speaker 03 And you have to queue for about half an hour.
34:28 Jessie Ware? Come here, you know it, come here. Just get on the mic, babe. Hi, what's your name? What's your name? Say it on the mic. Catherine. Hi Catherine.
34:38 Speaker 04 Hi Catherine.
34:39 Jessie Ware? Merry Christmas, I love you too. What is the restaurant you think it's called? Is it called Steak and Frit? No. No, sit down Catherine.
34:48 Jessie Ware? Thanks Catherine.
34:49 Speaker 04 But that is what they serve Catherine. That is what they serve. Like literally that's all they serve. They don't, there isn't a menu, it's just steak and they serve it twice with chips.
34:58 Jessie Ware? But you're choosing the soup.
34:59 Speaker 04 But they do, they've got a starter, but they've only got one main. That's the one in Marylebone, but there was one in LA called La Ciega, which is the same idea, right? And they would have a soup and just steak and three.
35:11 Jessie Ware? Catherine, you were never gonna get that, it was in LA. I fucked it for you, I'm so sorry.
35:15 Speaker 05 But L'Arche en Marylebone is amazing and is a queue around the block, but you're in and out in 45 minutes, so it's always worth queuing because you will get in.
35:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, but it's two hour queue. I tried once.
35:26 Speaker 04 This is really that busy, jeez Louise.
35:28 Speaker 05 But you know what they do? They give you dinner.
35:30 Speaker 04 Well, that's what I expect.
35:32 Speaker 05 And then they give it to you again. No, but then they give it to you again.
35:34 Speaker 03 You're only allowed two helpings.
35:36 Speaker 05 But they're just doing you the whole thing again. It's really, it's really yummy. Yeah, you love that soup.
35:40 Jessie Ware? So we've got the soup. What drink are we going for? Or are you having any sides with your soup?
35:46 Speaker 04 I would have, I would probably have a little bit of bread. Something, something like either a porridge bread or a soda bread.
35:57 Jessie Ware? Love a soda bread. A porridge bread?
36:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, I love a porridge bread.
36:01 Jessie Ware? I've never had it, I don't think.
36:02 Speaker 04 Oh, very easy to make as well.
36:04 Jessie Ware? No kneading?
36:06 Speaker 04 No kneading, no.
36:07 Jessie Ware? Oh, I love that.
36:08 Speaker 04 No, it's actually just natural yogurt and porridge and you stick it all in together and a little bit of seasoning.
36:14 Jessie Ware? Have you got the recipe?
36:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's so easy, that's it.
36:20 Speaker 03 That's it?
36:20 Speaker 04 Maybe a bit of seasoning, a bit of...
36:22 Speaker 03 Porridge and yogurt and you bake it?
36:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, and you stir it up in a pot, a little bit of, in the actual yogurt pot, and then you put it into your baking tray, grease it a little bit.
36:34 Speaker 03 How does it rise?
36:36 Speaker 04 You have, ah, you've got a little bit of baker powder in it, but what do you touch?
36:40 Speaker 03 Okay, a baking powder.
36:42 Speaker 04 And it doesn't rise much.
36:44 Jessie Ware? Okay, so drinks, what are we going for? I hear that you don't drink wine anymore.
36:50 Speaker 05 I had to really cut down on wine.
36:51 Jessie Ware? Is this what's, I'm now 40, you said it's a thing that happens when you're 40s.
36:55 Speaker 05 It's really annoying because I love red wine more than I love my own children. But it just started to do, I would just get so drunk, like head floppy drunk, which I don't really want to be. Don't sleep. And then the hangover is just days and days and days. So I was like, I think I have to give up drinking, which for me is really very hard.
37:16 Speaker 04 Doing anything keeping the Mires together.
37:18 Speaker 05 And then my sister said.
37:19 Jessie Ware? I'm just gonna get you another tea.
37:20 Speaker 05 Thank you darling, another green tea, thanks. And then my sister said, it's just wine, just stop drinking wine. And so I did, I stopped drinking wine for like eight months and realised that I can drink an awful lot of prosecco. And I can drink an awful lot of tequila. But yesterday at my terrible Sunday lunch, because it was so sad, I had a really delicious glass of red wine, so I'd just treat myself like middle of the day, but I used to drink it all night, I just can't do that anymore.
37:47 Speaker 03 Dawn is basically on the motherland diet.
37:51 Speaker 05 What's the motherland?
37:52 Jessie Ware? Prosecco and spag bol.
37:53 Speaker 03 Spag bol.
37:54 Speaker 05 Well, without the gluten though.
37:55 Speaker 03 Without the gluten.
37:56 Speaker 05 Spag, prosecco and spag.
37:59 Speaker 05 I do like, you know, I eat a lot of pasta, but it's all gluten free. But the, so red wine, I love, but you asked what the drink be, I'm like, love, I love margaritas.
38:09 Speaker 03 Do you like a spicy marg?
38:10 Jessie Ware? I love a margarita.
38:11 Speaker 05 Spicy marg, but just love a classic on the rocks with salt. That is the perfect drink. We've been living in LA for a long time.
38:19 Jessie Ware? Bet you've got some good margaritas.
38:20 Speaker 05 Tequila and lime is the, you know, I think, immediately thinking back to us into the pandemic, being like, we have to at least get till noon.
38:28 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:29 Speaker 05 Before we're allowed our lime smoothie.
38:34 Speaker 05 And, but just that taste goes with tacos, that's such a part of the life out there, isn't it?
38:39 Speaker 04 Oh yeah, just that lime flavour.
38:41 Speaker 05 Love it.
38:42 Speaker 03 When did you move back?
38:45 Speaker 04 Last year, last summer-ish time.
38:48 Speaker 03 And is that it for permanently here now?
38:52 Speaker 05 I think so, yeah. Well, you know, while the kids are at school, I think, probably. But, you know, I think with the job that Chris does and the life that we live and the kind of people that we are, I don't think you could ever say ever on, never say, you know, forever on anything. But it does, it does feel like a bit of a came home vibe.
39:12 Jessie Ware? Can I, well, I want to talk about Choose Love in a bit. I'm just going to get your Last Supper and then we can talk about how you got involved with Choose Love.
39:20 Speaker 04 Oh, I got to tell you my drink.
39:22 Jessie Ware? Yeah, I'd like to hear it.
39:23 Speaker 04 So this is the first drink of the evening.
39:25 Jessie Ware? You're not sharing margaritas?
39:27 Speaker 04 Well, we could.
39:28 Speaker 05 Chris makes a stunning margarita.
39:31 Speaker 04 I love a margarita. I can only have a couple of them, though. I find them, after a while, they're a bit too limey.
39:36 Jessie Ware? Uh huh.
39:37 Speaker 04 But a martini.
39:38 Jessie Ware? What's your martini?
39:40 Speaker 04 Gin martini extra dirty.
39:43 Jessie Ware? That's Jesse. Martini extra dirty, but I can't do the gin.
39:46 Speaker 04 Oh, really? I never like, I don't actually like it in anything other than that and the G and T.
39:51 Jessie Ware? Delicious.
39:52 Speaker 04 What else is there? What else is there? Oh, it's like, oh no, you don't like a gin, a ginger ale?
39:58 Jessie Ware? I love a G and T, but I just, well, anyway, that sounds amazing. Do you make a good gin martini?
40:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:04 Jessie Ware? Filthy.
40:05 Speaker 04 Well, maybe I don't, but I was a cocktail barman for a short time, so I put some energy into it.
40:12 Jessie Ware? Did you ever call yourself a mixologist?
40:14 Speaker 05 Chris will walk into the kitchen, pick up a bottle of wine, throw it into the air and spin it six times while I have a panic attack and catch it every single time.
40:21 Speaker 04 She doesn't love it when I do that.
40:23 Jessie Ware? Why?
40:25 Speaker 05 It terrifies me. Because I'm like, he'll go, ha ha, walk off.
40:28 Jessie Ware? And the children are standing just underneath, yeah. Daddy, do it again. Can we get your, can we get your main, please?
40:37 Speaker 04 Oh my God, you go, do you have something to, oh, if I was going to, this is Last Supper, I would probably do an Irish stew, Irish lamb stew, that's been marinating for hours and hours, maybe a couple of days in it, maybe it's somebody's wake.
40:55 Speaker 04 Maybe they died before their time. We don't know. Maybe it was at the hand of their greatest enemy. But anyway, it's been marinating and with some buttery spuds.
41:10 Speaker 04 That or like a stroganoff dish, something in that world, beef stew.
41:14 Jessie Ware? Stewie, okay. You love a goulash?
41:16 Speaker 04 Love a goulash.
41:18 Speaker 03 Can you cook a goulash?
41:19 Speaker 04 No, I've actually never tried to cook a goulash. I should, shouldn't I?
41:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, you should, yeah.
41:24 Speaker 04 It's just paprika, isn't it?
41:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, and a bit of cream.
41:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, and all the other main ingredients.
41:28 Speaker 03 No cream, not in a goulash, that's stroganoff, isn't it? It's paprika, paprika.
41:32 Speaker 04 Paprika, it's Hungarian, isn't it? And I have some Hungarian, because I was working with a Hungarian lady and she says, "Oh, I've got the best paprika." I'm like, "Well, I'm not going to challenge you."
41:42 Speaker 05 And you brought it home and it was absolutely lovely?
41:44 Speaker 04 Yes, gorgeous. It makes a big difference, I'm sure. It's one of those things where it's a delicacy somewhere else and we don't really think about it.
41:50 Jessie Ware? Yeah, absolutely. Can I get your main, please? Because that was your starter, the chorizo was the starter.
41:57 Speaker 05 But I really do love fish. And I love fish in butter and garlic and capers and black olives and all the salty deliciousness. So I think my main would be some kind of crispy-skinned fish with a butter, caper, black olive sauce on buttery-squashed potatoes, just boiled but squashed with lots of butter in. And then a garlicky side salad is just the perfect meal.
42:28 Jessie Ware? Tell me about your vinaigrette that you make.
42:31 Speaker 05 So I've done the same vinaigrette for years. And my friends in America would always be like, "What is this?" Because everything over there is full of mayonnaise or full of sugar. Like, the dressings are really, they're real cocktails. And I think the most simple dressing is the best. So I've always done what my auntie did, just really good quality olive oil, balsamic vinegar, a little pinch of mustard powder and a crush of garlic, garlic and salt and pepper. And that, just on green leaves, is just so delicious. And my friends would always be like, "What's in this dressing? What's in this dressing?" But it was just...
43:04 Speaker 05 That kind of unbottled, unpreserved, raw garlic flavour. Some people, it's not for them, but for me, that's what I love. If garlic's gone through any kind of bottling, or process, or pickling, or sitting for too long, I like it when it's raw.
43:18 Jessie Ware? So you won't make a vat of it and put it in the fridge?
43:21 Speaker 05 I used to, and then I realised that I actually just, I prefer making it there and then.
43:24 Jessie Ware? You like the hum?
43:25 Speaker 05 Yeah.
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44:31 Jessie Ware? Can we talk about, are you ever going to make documentaries? Are you going to do documentaries again?
44:35 Speaker 05 Because... I don't think so. I love that I did them, Phil.
44:38 Jessie Ware? You were like, you know, we adore Stacey. You were like the original.
44:44 Speaker 05 Thank you.
44:45 Jessie Ware? I feel like it needs to be acknowledged, like you...
44:47 Speaker 05 Well, that's really nice. I do, and I do, I feel like now, I felt at the time that I was doing something that nobody else is doing.
44:53 Jessie Ware? It's like Louis and you.
44:54 Speaker 05 Yeah. I felt at the time like I was doing something that nobody else is doing, so that definitely does take the fun away from doing it again a bit.
45:01 Jessie Ware? Uh huh.
45:03 Speaker 05 The hours are so long and it takes you, I love sitting at my desk. I love writing my books so much and I love being able to do a nine to five at my desk.
45:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
45:11 Speaker 05 And so if I do TV again in that way, it just takes me away from that.
45:17 Speaker 03 Would you ever do fiction?
45:18 Speaker 05 I do fiction.
45:19 Speaker 03 No, I mean telly wise. No, would you ever?
45:21 Speaker 05 No, I am the world's worst. I had a small cameo in Skins and I thought I was gonna be so great that they'd be like, "Oh my god, Dawn is so talented." Just get her on. And I was so awkward. I was so stiff and so terrible. I was like, "No, that is not, that was, thank god I didn't want to do that."
45:45 Speaker 03 Maybe you just didn't have the right director.
45:47 Speaker 05 But Chris will just not give me even the smallest part in one of his shows, which I think is very mean.
45:52 Speaker 03 Oh, Chris. Chris.
45:54 Speaker 04 You're right.
45:55 Speaker 05 I could improve.
45:56 Speaker 04 I don't think so.
46:00 Speaker 03 You could get her to do the sirens.
46:02 Speaker 04 I've been lucky enough for
46:04 Speaker 03 To do sirens.
46:05 Speaker 04 For the last 15 years to have Dawn read with me while I was preparing for auditions. And it's a real insight
46:14 Speaker 04 into the voices that a person can do.
46:17 Speaker 05 I do the accents that are in the script.
46:19 Speaker 04 I'll be like, "Dawn, in this one, you're an FBI agent." It's a big mistake telling her that.
46:26 Speaker 04 She rolls into the room.
46:28 Speaker 03 But has it almost, has it ever led to more intimate times like cosplay?
46:32 Speaker 04 Not as much as you would like.
46:36 Speaker 05 Okay, Chris, it's time to go upstairs. He's like, "No, it's not."
46:44 Speaker 03 But did Dawn, did you go, what did you do when you left school? Did you go to university?
46:48 Speaker 05 Well, I went to drama school and did three years of acting.
46:49 Speaker 03 You went to drama school?
46:51 Speaker 05 Um.
46:51 Speaker 03 Oh, right.
46:52 Speaker 05 But luckily.
46:53 Speaker 03 So you were trained.
46:54 Speaker 05 Yeah, in the third year, I realised, I just, this isn't where my heart is. So I, instead of doing a play, everyone was being marked on a play as their final project. I came down to London and I worked as a runner on the Badilla Skinner Show. And I got, so Avalon Productions marked me for my final thing instead of doing a play. So just kind of, that was the right thing to do. And then, you know, I left university and came down to London and worked behind the scenes in TV for a really long time. And it was, I worked out it wasn't what I was going to do before I failed miserably at it. Thank god.
47:30 Jessie Ware? To drama school.
47:32 Speaker 04 Yes.
47:35 Speaker 04 Which seems shocking.
47:38 Speaker 04 But I did, I went to Lambda here in London.
47:40 Jessie Ware? Okay.
47:40 Speaker 04 And I had gone, I had been doing a degree in politics.
47:45 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
47:45 Speaker 04 And enjoyed that, but while I was there, I was running the National Student Drama Festival. Became obsessed just with student theatre and then was doing lots of theatre above pubs and things like that. And then came here to drama school. And that was, yeah, twenty five years ago and it kind of started there.
48:03 Jessie Ware? What was in your fridge when you were at drama school?
48:06 Speaker 04 Oh man, there was just a lot of passant cheese, honestly, it was poor.
48:11 Jessie Ware? But didn't you say that you ate like multiple fry-ups a day?
48:14 Speaker 04 Oh, at drama school, we had a place on the way to work or on the way to fucking school. Like just a builder's cafe, really, so we would have like a builder's breakfast and it was so cheap that I would have it twice.
48:27 Jessie Ware? Of course.
48:28 Speaker 04 There was, it had a net negative nutritional value.
48:34 Jessie Ware? But you love breakfast, don't you?
48:36 Speaker 04 Breakfast's my favourite meal, quite easily.
48:38 Jessie Ware? Absolutely, me too, that's why the fasting thing does not work for me.
48:42 Speaker 04 Right.
48:43 Jessie Ware? Because I, but I will have the breakfast at twelve, but it's just like, it's what I want.
48:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:47 Jessie Ware? What did you have for brekkie this morning?
48:50 Speaker 04 Where was I this morning? Oh, we were in Weymouth, oh, I, we had a.
48:54 Jessie Ware? You were there this morning?
48:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, I was there this morning, so we had a bacon bap. But if, in a perfect world, I'll want, I'm not hungry immediately when I wake up. So I'll have some coffee, maybe a smoothie if I can be arsed to make one. And then at around, maybe I'll do the school run, walk the dogs, and then at around like ten, I'll maybe be hungry. And then I'll, I'll want, um, definitely some lovely eggs, maybe a bit of avocado, a bit of avocado, but lovely, lovely bacon.
49:26 Jessie Ware? I just love, I love the idea of you calling it avocado.
49:29 Speaker 04 That's it.
49:32 Speaker 04 But just, I loved it in America as well and Mexican breakfasts, I really kind of miss. A bit of spice in the morning is really nice.
49:41 Jessie Ware? Do you do a breakfast burrito? Do you do any Mexican here when you're at home? Like, if so, which taco are you gonna go for?
49:49 Speaker 04 Oh, well, I'll have an al pastor or a carnitas. But I haven't found the right places where we are yet. I don't know if London is necessarily a hotspot for great Mexican food.
50:00 Jessie Ware? Yeah, it's hard to top LA and Mexico.
50:02 Speaker 05 The Mexican food there is so incredible.
50:05 Jessie Ware? It really is, isn't it?
50:07 Speaker 05 And the tacos, whenever I make them at home, I'm like, there's a thousand toppings. And actually, when you go for a really good taco, there's like three toppings. They've just done it really well. It's delicious. And I really, we do miss that culture of just popping out.
50:21 Speaker 04 Huevos rancheros.
50:22 Speaker 05 Yeah, huevos rancheros.
50:24 Jessie Ware? You could make that.
50:25 Speaker 05 You can make that.
50:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's probably not that tricky, isn't it? I've never tried huevos rancheros.
50:28 Jessie Ware? Yeah, no, you could do that. What's your pudding? Have you got sweet teeth?
50:32 Speaker 05 You do. I don't. I really don't eat pudding. If I make pudding, if we're having people over, I make an avocado chocolate mousse.
50:40 Jessie Ware? Why?
50:41 Speaker 05 My version of a Jamie Oliver recipe. You would not know it was avocado.
50:44 Jessie Ware? Oh, because of the dairy free?
50:45 Speaker 05 No, but not even that. It's just delicious.
50:48 Jessie Ware? Really?
50:48 Speaker 05 It is good, isn't it?
50:49 Speaker 04 Oh, your mousse. Oh, it's so good.
50:52 Speaker 05 The avocado just does what butter would do. The kids think it's absolutely lovely and it's so decadent and it's so lovely. And there's no butter, sugar or cream in it. I'll put it on Instagram tomorrow and you will love it.
51:09 Speaker 04 And then I have a magnum.
51:10 Speaker 05 It takes 30 seconds.
51:10 Jessie Ware? I'm gonna, I'm gonna try making it.
51:12 Speaker 05 Chris has a magnum.
51:16 Speaker 05 It's got loads of coconut cream in it and maple syrup. It's not, you know, we're not idiots. It's delicious. But I'm sure if I was to make your dream pudding, it wouldn't be that.
51:26 Speaker 04 No.
51:28 Jessie Ware? Wouldn't be mine, I hope, Chris.
51:29 Speaker 05 No, but okay, Chris.
51:30 Speaker 04 It is really good though. I'm not joking. It's absolutely delicious.
51:32 Jessie Ware? What, what would yours be?
51:34 Speaker 04 I like, I like, you know, I love a sticky toffee. In a perfect world, what you call it, New York cheesecake with something nice on top. That kind of world, I think.
51:46 Jessie Ware? And what drink are you going for around?
51:48 Speaker 03 The mains and the pud.
51:51 Speaker 04 Well, for pud, those are two different questions. But for the pud, I'd probably have a Peaty whisky, a Peaty West of Ireland whisky.
52:01 Speaker 04 And then for the main course, probably a red wine. Was I having a beef stew?
52:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
52:05 Speaker 04 I'd have a Rioja probably.
52:07 Speaker 03 Uh huh, lovely.
52:08 Speaker 04 And see how we feel after that.
52:11 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
52:12 Speaker 05 I do love an Amaretto.
52:14 Speaker 03 Oh, I used to drink that a lot when I was 16.
52:16 Speaker 05 Interesting, because I don't really eat puddings. So if I'm in a restaurant, very rarely would order dessert. But I do love getting double Amaretto with one ice cube.
52:25 Speaker 03 Ooh.
52:27 Speaker 05 That's good. That's good shit.
52:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, oh god, yeah. We used to drink a lot of Amaretto, didn't we, back in the day and days?
52:32 Speaker 05 Yeah, that was a real thing, wasn't it?
52:33 Speaker 04 Oh, I couldn't keep an almond liqueur out of your mouth back in those days.
52:37 Speaker 03 Do you, do you like Baileys?
52:40 Speaker 04 Do I like which which?
52:40 Speaker 03 Baileys.
52:41 Speaker 05 Christmas milk.
52:42 Speaker 04 Oh, I like a bit of Baileys.
52:42 Speaker 05 Christmas milk.
52:44 Speaker 04 Love a bit of Christmas milk.
52:45 Speaker 03 Me too. When, when do you get your first bottle?
52:49 Speaker 04 Around 7am maybe.
52:51 Speaker 03 No.
52:53 Speaker 03 Which, have you already started on the Baileys? It's the beginning of December.
52:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's around now, isn't it?
52:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
52:59 Speaker 04 It would be.
52:59 Speaker 03 I started, yeah.
53:00 Speaker 05 It's around now when you're like, what kind of milk do you want in your coffee?
53:03 Speaker 04 Sunday, like after breakfast, something, yeah.
53:04 Speaker 03 Oh, not after breakfast?
53:05 Speaker 04 No.
53:06 Speaker 03 No, no.
53:06 Speaker 04 No, because I love to put a little bit in the coffee.
53:08 Speaker 03 Of course you do.
53:09 Speaker 04 Which is nice.
53:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
53:11 Speaker 04 Um, because I don't do the dairy as much, I got the almond one, you know.
53:15 Speaker 03 The almond Baileys?
53:16 Speaker 04 An almond Baileys.
53:17 Speaker 05 Shut up.
53:18 Speaker 03 You're kidding me.
53:19 Speaker 04 No, and it's grand.
53:21 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's not as good, but it's, it does the job.
53:23 Speaker 04 It's the fucking same, but they've done their best and I'm proud of them.
53:28 Speaker 05 Who, who's gonna get a Baileys when they go to half time? Anyone tickled? Are you gonna get one? I fancy one now. Um, and whilst you're there, you're also gonna buy some merch and some Choose Love goodies, maybe please. Which brings me on to how you got involved with Choose Love. Well, how did I get involved? Well, it was a boozy Sunday lunch with myself and Josie Norton, who is now our CEO. 10 years ago, my baby was there, Art was three months old, I think. And we were just talking at this lunch going, are you watching what's going on with this camp in Calais? Like, why, why isn't everyone in uproar? Why isn't everyone trying to do something?
54:09 Speaker 05 And so we said, let's just send a coach, a truckload of supplies. So the next day through our Twitter feeds, would anybody like to send something? We'll get it to Calais. And we got 7,000 packages in 24 hours delivered to this big yellow storage. They'd given us a room and then they had to donate us a floor. I remember at one point, we were trying to get people to come and help organise everything because there was just so much. And I remember just looking down, it was just Tams and Althwaite. I was like, you angels, you just come to organise parcels? And you realise that it was just at this time where everyone's kind of seeing this thing on the news, feeling utterly helpless. And what we did is we just said, we can help you help. Like, we've got an idea.
54:54 Speaker 05 But then, all this stuff came, we were like, God, we've got to get it there. And we didn't know how to get it there. And then we were donated a fleet of lorries. And suddenly, one day, we're just waving off all these lorries with all of these supplies. And they went to Calais and they got taken there. And then the team got to Calais and realised, we can't just get here and dump stuff. And so the next thing was, we need a warehouse to organise everything, to do all this. And suddenly, this machine is being created. Now, we were just a bunch of maverick friends trying to do a nice thing. And we all had other jobs. And that was the beginning of Choose Love. We were called Help Refugees. And 10 years later, we've raised £120 million.
55:34 Jessie Ware? Wow.
55:36 Speaker 05 Incredible. It's incredible. And the money that you've raised tonight, I think we're around 25 grand tonight?
55:42 Jessie Ware? I think maybe we are. And so that is so amazing. Thank you so much.
55:46 Speaker 05 I cannot tell you how amazing that is. That money will go directly to the cause. And we exist mainly because of our public crowdfunding and how much people support us. So we've got our Christmas shop this year on Regent Street, right next to the Apple Store.
56:08 Jessie Ware? Which is amazing.
56:09 Speaker 05 It's amazing. You go in and you buy whatever you want, whatever you're passionate about for somebody's, somebody else's journey. And we'll get it to them. And...
56:18 Jessie Ware? Every year, there's certain times over the year when it just feels like such hard work and it's so disappointing, it's like, "Oh my god, this is just so hard, does anybody care? Is there anyone out there?" And every year, we look at what you guys have raised and what people turn up to the shop and actually say, "What can I do? How much can I give?" And it's always so incredible. I think Choose Love is a movement, not just a charity, and you're all part of it, and thank you so much.
56:53 Jessie Ware? I really don't want to now bring it back to food, because that was a beautiful way to finish.
56:57 Speaker 05 That's all right.
56:57 Jessie Ware? That was amazing, thank you Dawn, of course. Before we go to a break, and you now go to the merch stand and you think about maybe, honestly, it can be one pound that you donate extra tonight, and we do so appreciate that you've already bought tickets, but if you fancy giving a little bit more, you are very welcome, or if you fancy going to the Regent Street shop, it's such a vibe, there's usually a DJ in there, Mum's on the tills, Dawn will be on the tills, Chris is probably on the tills.
57:23 Speaker 05 Chris is the best person on the tills at the Choose Love shop that you've ever seen. Actually, you don't, you stand outside with a placard.
57:29 Speaker 04 People find me quite intimidating to say no to.
57:33 Speaker 05 Literally drags people in every year, it's brilliant.
57:35 Speaker 04 It's good crack, yeah.
57:36 Jessie Ware? It is really good crack.
57:37 Speaker 04 It's amazing, and it is an amazing charity.
57:39 Jessie Ware? Absolutely.
57:40 Speaker 04 It's refugee help in 41 different countries around the world, some places this is the only help that people are getting. Pulling people out of the water, getting people into warm clothes, helping families when they land in new places with legal care and home care and all of the things that you don't necessarily think about. It's beautiful, what Elana and Josie and Dawn and all of this incredible group of mostly women have kind of done, it's remarkable, and we thank you for being here tonight.
58:07 Jessie Ware? Oh, it's just, it's an absolute honour to talk about Choose Love as well. It makes sense why you changed it from help refugees to Choose Love, because it is the most loving movement. There is so much love and there's so much ambition for this charity, and it's completely selfless. I mean, it's beautiful what you've created, and the merch is great. And it looks really good on kids, too, so you can get little, small sizes maybe. Or you can get it in the shop. Now, back to the Table Manners podcast. We need to just round it up with you both giving us your nostalgic taste or smell.
58:42 Speaker 05 I think I'm garlic.
58:43 Jessie Ware? Garlic.
58:44 Speaker 05 Yeah, I think, I think I'm just garlic.
58:46 Jessie Ware? Raw or buttery?
58:47 Speaker 05 You know when someone goes, "Oh, I'm sorry about my garlic breath", I'm like, "Oh, I love, I love the smell of garlic on someone's breath." I just want to go, "What did you eat? Was it amazing?"
58:57 Jessie Ware? No.
58:58 Speaker 03 Do you love it as much?
59:00 Speaker 04 We haven't, we haven't been that close in a while that she would smell it.
59:06 Speaker 05 But garlic is, I just think the best, like, cooking garlic is the best smell on the planet.
59:12 Jessie Ware? I'm very into garlic, but that smell a few hours later, or even the day after, it's the day after I can't do. I can't do it, Dawn.
59:20 Speaker 05 I don't mind it at all. I also think, and you might correct me on this, but I've eaten so much raw garlic that I think my body has quite a high tolerance. I don't think it lingers on me for like the next day. Maybe it does. I just don't smell it.
59:34 Jessie Ware? You're actually not called a cat lady or called garlic lady.
59:37 Speaker 05 Garlic lady, that's the next book. But I, I don't, I'm just never offended by someone's garlic breath. I want to know what it was they ate and how delicious it was.
59:43 Speaker 03 Does anyone ever tell you, "Dawn, you actually smell of garlic, do you want to mint?"
59:49 Speaker 05 No, probably because I'm talking over them, telling them about what I ate.
59:57 Jessie Ware? Chris, what's your nostalgic taste?
59:59 Speaker 04 Rhubarb crumble.
1:00:01 Jessie Ware? Oh.
1:00:02 Speaker 04 Grandad grew a lot of rhubarb in the back garden. And so we'd have rhubarb crumbles for quite a few months.
1:00:10 Speaker 04 It's mostly sugar, of course, but you could get the, that real hard, sharp hit of rhubarb to you at the back of your throat.
1:00:17 Speaker 03 Did you ever put ginger with it? Did you ever, did your mother ever put ginger with your rhubarb?
1:00:22 Speaker 04 Do you know what, I don't know if we ever did. I've had it since. I don't know if we did in my childhood. I won't have that. I don't even know the conditions where ginger grows, if I'm totally honest with you.
1:00:32 Speaker 03 You might just use the powdered one.
1:00:34 Speaker 04 Oh, the powdered one, sure. But that's not in grandad's garden.
1:00:38 Speaker 03 Okay, no, obviously not.
1:00:39 Speaker 05 You really, just let him go with his beautiful nostalgic taste.
1:00:43 Jessie Ware? And would you be with custard or cream?
1:00:45 Speaker 04 Custard, yeah, custard. And a bit of cream, maybe a bit of ice cream, depending on how good we'd been.
1:00:53 Speaker 05 A little bit garlic on top.
1:00:58 Speaker 04 No one will ever smell it.
1:01:00 Speaker 03 Do you guys like karaoke?
1:01:04 Speaker 05 Well, very much. Are you offering some kind of situation?
1:01:11 Speaker 03 Jessie hates it. I think it's great fun.
1:01:14 Speaker 05 But is it because it's just, is it because it's you? Like, everyone's expecting too much?
1:01:18 Jessie Ware? No, I love other people doing it. I just don't like doing it. And I have really bad PTSD from my mum making me do it at Club Med.
1:01:27 Speaker 05 Oh, interesting. See, I've been practising one of your songs for karaoke.
1:01:29 Jessie Ware? Shut up.
1:01:30 Speaker 05 Hello love. Oh, that's a nice song. Have you?
1:01:34 Jessie Ware? Yeah, I love it.
1:01:34 Speaker 05 Oh, that's nice.
1:01:35 Jessie Ware? I don't know if it's on there yet, though, babe. I don't know.
1:01:38 Speaker 05 I might have to get it, find it on YouTube and just drown you out.
1:01:41 Jessie Ware? Yeah, drown me out with your garlic breath. I love this already. Yeah, no, mum made me do it at Club Med. And I think I've said this in the podcast already, but she, I was 15. It was Turkey, it was October half-term. And it was a really chilly night, but karaoke was happening. And she went, "You wanna be a singer? You'd better get up on that stage and sing." What did you sing? "I wanna dance with somebody." Like, I mean, she was like, "She'll do Whitney, she'll do Whitney."
1:02:13 Speaker 05 Do it now, Jess.
1:02:15 Jessie Ware? No, fuck off. Tell me a fucking joke, Chris. I mean, I'll sing it.
1:02:22 Speaker 04 Paddy Englishman, Paddy Irishman, Paddy Scotsman are in a pub with their sons.
1:02:28 Jessie Ware? Oh, fuck off, you're doing that. I'm not singing. I'm not singing.
1:02:31 Speaker 04 And Paddy Englishman says, "I called my son George because he was born on St George's Day." And then Paddy Scotsman says, "And this is my son Andrew, and he was born on St Andrew's Day." And Paddy Irishman leans into his son, and he says, "Say nothing, pancake."
1:02:59 Speaker 05 Chris O'Dowd and John O'Porter, everybody.
1:03:20 Speaker 03 Well mum, well, I'm slightly in love with the man with the Irish accent. Well, I'm in love with Dawn. Well, I love both of them.
1:03:29 Jessie Ware? You have Chris and I'll have Dawn.
1:03:31 Speaker 03 Okay. What fabulous stars.
1:03:33 Jessie Ware? They were amazing, absolutely amazing. And do you want to just tell the crowd what a lady just said to you?
1:03:42 Speaker 03 She said, Lenny, why doesn't Jessie let you speak more during podcasts? And I said, because she's a little jealous because I'm really the star.
1:03:54 Jessie Ware? Exactly that. I'm really sorry that I don't let her speak more.
1:03:57 Speaker 03 What a great night.
1:03:59 Jessie Ware? It was really gorgeous. People got really involved. We made a lot of money for Choose Love. If you would like to donate to Choose Love or visit the store in Regent Street this Christmas period, please do. We will put links to Choose Love in our Instagram stories and in the show notes.
1:04:16 Speaker 03 Can you buy online?
1:04:18 Jessie Ware? You can buy online and you can spend whatever you want. It's like as little as as much as you want. And everything counts and they so appreciate it. But thank you so much for listening and we hope you enjoyed the live podcast. And maybe we'll go on tour again, I don't know. Would you like to go on tour?
1:04:31 Speaker 03 Maybe.
1:04:31 Jessie Ware? The way those people were flocking to you, Lenny.
1:04:34 Speaker 03 Flocked towards me, darling.
1:04:35 Jessie Ware? With your chicken soup.
1:04:37 Speaker 03 For the chicken soup, really?
1:04:38 Jessie Ware? No, it was for a moment.
1:04:40 Speaker 03 I think it was for the chicken soup. But there you go.
1:04:42 Jessie Ware? Thank you so much and we'll see you next week.
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