Pod Insights Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware Da'vine Joy Randolph About this episode The absolutely divine Da’Vine Joy Randolph joins us on the podcast this week! The Oscar winning actress joined us in the midst of her global promo run for the brand new film Eternity, which coincidentally also stars friends of the podcast Callum Turner & Elisabeth Olsen! Da’Vine has to be one of our most foodie guests, we could have talked about eating and drinking for hours. We also discovered that London feels like her second home, that she has a seltzer water addiction, that she loves a sticky toffee pudding, what filming The Holdovers was like and she reveals that she has dumped men over their bad food choices at restaurants! This is surely the first of many meals we’ll share with Da’Vine, what a lovely lunchtime treat! Eternity is out in cinemas in the USA now, and UK on the 5th December. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.
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1:06 Jessie Ware? Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here at Mom's Kitchen.
1:10 Speaker 03 Yes, darling.
1:12 Jessie Ware? You can fab?
1:13 Speaker 03 Am I?
1:14 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
1:15 Speaker 03 I like this talk.
1:16 Jessie Ware? I do like it.
1:16 Speaker 03 Yep.
1:17 Jessie Ware? It's been a while since we've bought leopard print back out.
1:19 Speaker 03 It's back in for me.
1:20 Jessie Ware? Oh, really?
1:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:21 Jessie Ware? What, that three month rejection you've had, a hiatus, yeah?
1:25 Speaker 03 It was an interregnum.
1:28 Jessie Ware? It smells delicious.
1:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:30 Jessie Ware? How are you?
1:31 Speaker 03 I'm all right. I'm recovering.
1:33 Jessie Ware? Are you sure about that?
1:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm recovering. I slept last night for more than four hours.
1:38 Jessie Ware? Oh, well done. Do you want to explain why?
1:41 Speaker 03 Because my little baby grandson's returned back to the States. So I absolutely, I was up every hour with him the night before.
1:48 Jessie Ware? Oof.
1:49 Speaker 03 Yep.
1:50 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
1:50 Speaker 03 Hot and sweaty and clinging on.
1:52 Jessie Ware? Oh, little thing.
1:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:54 Jessie Ware? Um, well, what have I been up to? I've just been deep in album stuff and listening to mixes and just very much in that.
2:03 Speaker 03 I heard.
2:04 Jessie Ware? But this smells amazing. What are you cooking today?
2:06 Speaker 03 It's a Molly Baz recipe, or Baz.
2:09 Jessie Ware? Baz, I think.
2:10 Speaker 03 Molly Baz recipe.
2:11 Jessie Ware? She's an American chef that lives in.
2:13 Speaker 03 It's called one pot chicken mujadara.
2:16 Jessie Ware? Mmm.
2:16 Speaker 03 I don't know where mujadara is, but it's chicken on a bed of lentils and rice, onions, shallots.
2:23 Jessie Ware? Mmm.
2:23 Speaker 03 With turmeric, cinnamon, cumin.
2:26 Jessie Ware? Yum.
2:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, and it looks great. And I'm gonna serve it with some ginger and garlic sesame beans.
2:34 Jessie Ware? Yum.
2:35 Speaker 03 Then I've made.
2:36 Jessie Ware? Oh, wow.
2:37 Speaker 03 Cause I thought.
2:38 Jessie Ware? Cause I didn't do it.
2:38 Speaker 03 I'll go fancy pants this time. I've done individual trifles.
2:43 Jessie Ware? Oh, Lenny, that's so come down with me.
2:46 Speaker 03 I thought individual, I thought.
2:48 Jessie Ware? Why individual?
2:49 Speaker 03 Because I went to a charity lunch, a Marie Curie charity lunch.
2:53 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
2:53 Speaker 03 And on the, they don't come with a big pot of trifle and then it all caves in. I just thought I'll do individual ones. It won't cave in, it'll look lovely, decorated with rose petals and almonds.
3:06 Jessie Ware? Wow.
3:06 Speaker 03 Yeah. Gone full hog, because this woman's a bit of a cook.
3:10 Jessie Ware? So you can introduce who we've got as a guest today.
3:14 Speaker 03 Oh, I love this woman. She was in a fabulous film called The Holdovers.
3:20 Jessie Ware? Yes.
3:21 Speaker 03 She is a great singer.
3:24 Jessie Ware? Mm.
3:24 Speaker 03 She's just in a new film that I watched the other night, which is great, called Eternity. And her name, I love how her name came about, because her parents had wanted a child for so long. And when they saw her, they called her Divine Joy.
3:38 Jessie Ware? It's actually Da'Vine, I think.
3:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. Well, it's based on Divine Joy.
3:43 Jessie Ware? I know.
3:43 Speaker 03 And they call her Da'Vine Joy.
3:46 Jessie Ware? Randolph.
3:46 Speaker 03 Randolph. I'm so excited to meet her. She just looks like a gorgeous woman.
3:51 Jessie Ware? She loves cooking.
3:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:53 Jessie Ware? She's very funny. From the interviews that I've seen of her, I loved the A24 film Eternity, which I think she's coming on to chat about. Um, but also she was just brilliant and won all the, all the awards as being the cook in Holdovers. Um, also Murders in the Building. Oh yeah, she's in only Murders in the Building. I think she plays the policewoman. I think she's gonna have a very good sense of humour. I just, I think, yeah, I think she's gonna appreciate the amount of effort that's gone into today. Yeah. As do I. It does smell aromatic, doesn't it? It smells fab. And we're really excited to have a Divine Joy Randolph coming up on Table manners.
4:40 Jessie Ware? Divine Joy, it is a pleasure to have you. Absolute joy. You are, I think you're up there in, I'd say, number one of the most glamorous guests we've ever had on.
4:51 Speaker 04 Yeah, definitely.
4:53 Jessie Ware? Thank you for making an effort. We're just really happy to have you. You've just fallen asleep in the car.
4:57 Speaker 04 Yes.
4:58 Jessie Ware? But you still look fab for it, so there you go.
5:00 Speaker 04 Thank you very much.
5:00 Jessie Ware? How has London treated you?
5:02 Speaker 04 It's the best. I always, I always love being here. So kind. My first job was here, uh, on the West End.
5:10 Jessie Ware? Yeah, you did Ghost, didn't you?
5:13 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
5:14 Jessie Ware? So Whoopi Goldberg's part in the movie.
5:18 Speaker 04 And that was my first job out of school. You're the nicest. So kind. And I was here during the holidays. It was my first job, like, away from home. I was homesick. They put me up at the Ritz Carlton.
5:31 Jessie Ware? Oh.
5:32 Speaker 04 Felt like Julia Roberts.
5:33 Jessie Ware? Ah.
5:34 Speaker 04 Yeah. It was the best.
5:36 Jessie Ware? But wasn't it, you were doing, you were going to be doing Ghost on Broadway and then somebody fell sick here. Sharon. Oh, hang on, is she the amazing one? Sharon C Clark. Okay, Sharon, Sharon C Clark. She's a big actress.
5:49 Speaker 04 She's a big, big, big deal. And so I think she had to, like, had some medical thing, like, had to get surgery, which is wild because you guys have, like, three to five, you can have up to five understudies on the West End, where in the States we might have two. And so, well, even with all those understudies, they were like, you know what?
6:11 Jessie Ware? Get over here.
6:12 Speaker 04 And so literally, it was around this time, uh, yeah, it was the week of Thanksgiving. And I was like, can I please just have Thanksgiving? And they were like, okay. So we, I flew on Sunday. I saw the show that night. Uh, Wednesday was my first dress rehearsal onstage for paying customers. Uh, and Friday, we were off to the races.
6:38 Jessie Ware? Had you started rehearsals on Broadway?
6:40 Speaker 04 No.
6:40 Jessie Ware? Oh.
6:41 Speaker 04 Nothing. So I knew I had booked the role like that August. We weren't supposed to start until like the winter on Broadway. And so I'm just like, oh, I have this job that I'll do sometime in the new year. And then literally the week of Thanksgiving, literally would be this week.
6:59 Jessie Ware? That was two day, two, three days of rehearsal, two days of rehearsal.
7:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:03 Jessie Ware? Was Wednesday a matinee as well?
7:05 Speaker 04 No, they didn't do that to me.
7:07 Jessie Ware? Yeah, thank God. That would have been brutal.
7:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:09 Jessie Ware? That's crazy.
7:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, but I'm so grateful. And the West End was like the best place to have my training ground. And you guys love theater so much that it was like, I feel like I had gotten treated better or the same now. As a film actress, as I did as a theater actor on my first job ever, the way that you guys just so love and support theater is just beyond.
7:35 Speaker 03 But New York, I mean, we were in New York and we went to theater there and the audiences are so enthusiastic.
7:41 Speaker 04 They, they are.
7:42 Speaker 03 Standing up, they're cheering midway through, yeah.
7:45 Speaker 04 You guys get to drink.
7:48 Speaker 03 Oh.
7:49 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
7:50 Speaker 03 Oh, you mean at half time, during the interval?
7:53 Speaker 04 Uh, well, at least what on.
7:55 Jessie Ware? Around them in there, yeah.
7:56 Speaker 04 You can have them in there.
7:57 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's.
7:58 Speaker 04 So in New York, you know, drink in between, but you can have it in there.
8:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:03 Speaker 04 You guys are, are a wild fun bus.
8:05 Jessie Ware? Oh, right. So the second half was always a bit more amped up maybe or?
8:10 Speaker 04 For you guys, all of it.
8:11 Speaker 03 Oh.
8:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, for all of it. But in the States, yeah, maybe. But yeah, you guys have a good time.
8:17 Speaker 03 I think if someone came to see Ghost, they'd make a real night of it because. They love the film.
8:22 Speaker 04 Yes.
8:22 Speaker 03 They love the whole thing about it.
8:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's a great night out. And then um there was a lot of special effects. And so we got to work with like David Copperfield and I got to like work with magicians because there was special effects, but there was limits in how we could do certain things. And so it'd be certain like magic tricks and stuff like that. It was so much fun.
8:49 Jessie Ware? Can we talk about your childhood and your family? And who was around the dinner table and what were you eating?
8:55 Speaker 04 So my mom at that time when I was younger was the breadwinner. So I grew up seeing my mom, she's a kindergarten teacher. But I grew up seeing her working. And very early on, like I had to make breakfast for me and my sister because my dad was already at work. And so in the morning, my mom would get like half ready. And then wake me up to get me ready. And then my job was to come downstairs and get breakfast together while she was getting my sister together. And it was like oatmeal or like, uh, I don't know if you guys have, it's called like instant grits.
9:39 Jessie Ware? We don't have grits really, but I know what grits are like.
9:42 Speaker 03 Where are grits? Are they similar to like?
9:45 Speaker 04 Almost or like uh.
9:47 Speaker 03 I've had it, my sister in law served me grits and fish. She's from the Bahamas.
9:52 Speaker 04 Yes.
9:52 Speaker 03 And her family cooked for Sunday particularly was fish and grits.
9:57 Speaker 04 Yes.
9:57 Speaker 03 And it was delicious.
9:58 Speaker 04 Yes, and like in the south, like New Orleans, you would have shrimp and grits.
10:02 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:02 Speaker 04 Um, or sometimes you can just have grits and like scrambled eggs, uh, but it's a starch. Almost like, do you have cream of wheat?
10:12 Speaker 03 No, no.
10:13 Speaker 04 You have something very close and I don't know what it's called. Is it like wheat germ or? Where we have. Oh, we have. Bix. May but like it's yummy. Sorry. Nice. But like it's like you can make it sweet with like butter and sugar. Oh, yum. But like, so when I was younger, to be fair, a lot of it was like pop it in the oven. I mean, the microwave. How old are we talking? Like, how old are you? Me and my sister are six years apart, so. Are you the oldest? Yeah, so I was like maybe like seven or eight of like putting breakfast in the microwave. And then as I got older, they then let me like do it on the stove top.
10:49 Speaker 04 Sounds like instant porridge, ready brick. Yeah, it's it's really. You remember ready brick, which is smoother than.
10:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, but that's like kind of like oatmeal, isn't it? But like, just not doing on the hot.
11:00 Speaker 04 Exactly, exactly. So, yeah, I would do, that was like kind of my beginning introduction to like cooking. I love cooking. I've heard. Yeah, I love it, love it, love it, love it. And so, though we were very much so like, you know, blue collar, middle class family, working family, my mom made sure we always sat down to have dinner. What was one of your favorite meals that your mom made? And was she as good a cook as you? Yeah, another thing that was really cool is they split duties equally. Like, both of my parents can cook. Okay. But they they knew each other's strengths, like certain dishes my dad would do or like.
11:39 Speaker 04 Even now, my dad kind of does like the weekend brunch or like the the breakfast, the more elaborate breakfast. And my mom will do like most of the holiday stuff, but he'll be like kind of her sous chef for that sort of thing. Are you going home for Thanksgiving? I'm hosting this year. Okay, okay. I'm excited. Yeah, I've been traveling so much, so. Give us the menu. So I'm working on it, but I've been on Instagram in the in the middle of press, like literally between things. I'm looking because now everyone's posting. Their their recipes, yeah. It's my favorite thing to see people's recipes. Me too.
12:18 Speaker 04 And I like to switch it up. I think I'm leaning towards some kind of for like a potato, some kind of like. I either wanna do, which is so delicious, and I made it by mistake and it was amazing. Instead of potato on grotton. Turnip on grotton.
12:37 Speaker 04 But I wanna, I've done it before where I ran out of potatoes. I was like, oh, turnips. And so having it together feels nice. If you want it healthy, I mean, there's still lots of cheese in it, but you could just do all turnips. But I'm really into leeks.
12:52 Speaker 04 Right, like a nice.
12:54 Jessie Ware? You could do a confit leak or something.
12:57 Speaker 04 So I want some kind of like leek caramelized onion. Potatoy dish.
13:02 Speaker 03 Do you do turkey and ham?
13:04 Speaker 04 Yeah, and because I like hosting, I get really. I'm very clued into people's wants and needs. That's really important to me. Uh, the food has to be good, but I, it's more important of like what people like. And people can be kind of finicky, you know? So I wanna do turkey, but I also wanna do smothered turkey legs.
13:25 Jessie Ware? What, like more butter or something?
13:27 Speaker 04 No, it's like, it's almost like it makes its own gravy. So you could do like smothered chicken, smothered pork chops.
13:34 Speaker 03 Like slow cooked? Yeah, okay. What would you put on it?
13:39 Speaker 04 Turkey wings. So you have turkey wings, so it's like the broth, your roasted veggies. It basically creates like a gravy. So what you could do is a lot of times if I made it non during, like not during Thanksgiving, you could have like rice. Or something like that as the base, but.
13:55 Jessie Ware? Like a casserole?
13:57 Speaker 04 Kind of, yeah, but you, you bake it. So it, like a roast, like you said, a slow roast. So it like it falls off the bone.
14:04 Speaker 03 I think I've done something similar today, cause I've cooked the rice in with the chicken. And yeah, okay. Do you ever shop at Irwan?
14:13 Speaker 04 Listen, I try.
14:15 Speaker 03 It's so expensive.
14:17 Speaker 04 I know, but I get my water from there.
14:19 Speaker 03 What?
14:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:20 Jessie Ware? Is this the, can we talk about the seltzer love?
14:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, we can talk about it.
14:25 Jessie Ware? Uh, do you feel comfortable to talk about it?
14:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:27 Speaker 03 What is it?
14:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:29 Jessie Ware? Tell Lenny what's, what's happened.
14:31 Speaker 04 I am a seltzer water addict.
14:33 Speaker 03 Oh.
14:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's.
14:35 Speaker 03 I don't know what seltzer is really. Okay, sparkling water.
14:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:40 Speaker 03 I had to take it off the table.
14:42 Jessie Ware? Why?
14:42 Speaker 03 Cause she was looking at, she was eyeing it.
14:44 Speaker 04 I'm addicted to it.
14:45 Speaker 03 Do you want some pellegrino?
14:46 Jessie Ware? No.
14:47 Speaker 04 Can't have it.
14:48 Speaker 03 No.
14:48 Speaker 04 Because my doctor, I was like, I, I would always feel like a little bloated or like have like.
14:54 Speaker 03 It's cause you were having all this water.
14:56 Speaker 04 I had to do a C T scan. And they were like. Is it the salt in it? That's what they're saying, like it can cause, like it kinda like, and it's not alkaline and. And it's not good for your vocal cords either. So you're.
15:13 Speaker 04 We're taking baby steps. I'm doing it from now until the end of the year. I wanna see if it works.
15:20 Speaker 04 Never heard of an addiction to water. Which I don't like regular water. So that was my own, even when I was a kid, I've been on social water for a very long time. Soda water, the same as seltzer water. Exactly the same. Yeah, it's just at all those words, it's just not tonic water. I can't stand tonic water. That's a very strong reaction. Yeah, cuz it has like a. Do you drink alcohol ever? Alcohol ever? Yeah, what do you like?
15:46 Speaker 03 What do you drink?
15:47 Speaker 04 Champagne.
15:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, and if I had to get a cocktail, I really enjoy an espresso martini done well, when it's like kind of creamy. And like chocolatey, like faint chocolatey. Where do you get your best espresso martini? Like where, where's good in L A? Usually a good steakhouse. Has a good espresso martini or like a really good Italian restaurant. Will have a good martini, but I always ask, if it's on there, it doesn't mean I'm gonna get it. I ask and say, is it good here? But they're not gonna say, no, it's shit. No, do you, have you ever noticed that sometime, I don't know, maybe they don't do it here. I so appreciate a waiter that's honest because I'm such a foodie. If you are like, mm hmm, and I order it and I look at you like, you know, that's not good. You know, that's not good.
16:36 Speaker 04 I will tip you so well if you just are like, if I'm like, oh, and I wanna get the. Do you want me to serve some food? Is everyone starving?
16:43 Speaker 03 Are you hungry?
16:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, sure. I just want to say before I go off for a minute.
16:49 Jessie Ware? Do you ever do stand up comedy? Cause your one liners are so fabulous.
16:54 Speaker 04 No.
16:55 Jessie Ware? I just feel that you should be doing that.
16:58 Speaker 04 Thanks.
16:58 Jessie Ware? She's worked and busy. She didn't need to do so much at the moment.
17:02 Speaker 04 I really, really do.
17:03 Jessie Ware? You're funny.
17:04 Speaker 04 But yeah.
17:06 Jessie Ware? Okay, my thing that all my friends get really annoyed about with me when I go to a restaurant, I ask the waiter what their, the best things on the menu are.
17:13 Speaker 04 Absolutely. Why not? Why is that annoying?
17:17 Jessie Ware? They're like.
17:17 Speaker 04 Let's have the best culinary experience possible.
17:20 Jessie Ware? Make it count.
17:21 Speaker 04 You'll get all my money.
17:22 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
17:22 Speaker 04 I'll come up more and more and more, bring people if I have an amazing spot.
17:25 Jessie Ware? But then sometimes their recommendation is not good enough. And then my friends are like, you ask them, you either don't do what they say, or you get it and it's not good enough.
17:38 Speaker 04 Do you, are you someone though, that when, uh, do you do research ahead of time for restaurants?
17:43 Jessie Ware? Oh babe, I'm looking at that menu.
17:44 Speaker 04 See, so then, yeah. So I feel like, you know, certain establishments that we go to that there's like, oh, this is where foodies go.
17:50 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
17:51 Speaker 04 The waiters know.
17:52 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
17:52 Speaker 04 Yes, there'll be ones that come, but I have no problem being like, mm mm, didn't taste right. But I'm not, I will literally taste it.
18:00 Jessie Ware? I'm sure you're polite.
18:01 Speaker 04 I taste it and then I'm like, mm mm. I don't like when people eat half of it and they're like, mm mm, it's like, no, no, you ate it.
18:08 Jessie Ware? Fine.
18:09 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, I'm very particular. And I'm a little controlling when it comes to that, even with like friends. And I'm like, wait, wait, what, where are we going?
18:18 Jessie Ware? I know.
18:19 Speaker 04 Or like, what's the genre of food?
18:21 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
18:21 Speaker 04 Italian? Can I just do a little? Cause I, I, there's nothing worse for me. There's no, it puts me in a bad mood. If you don't feed me, or if we go to a restaurant and it is subpar, don't talk to me for the rest of the day.
18:36 Jessie Ware? I'm so with you.
18:38 Speaker 04 I'm a lovely person, but not then.
18:40 Jessie Ware? No, I, I wonder how it would be with me and you on the ordering.
18:45 Speaker 04 I think we would have a fabulous time.
18:46 Jessie Ware? We've ordered a lot of it and the best stuff, cause I wanna have an opinion on most of the stuff.
18:51 Speaker 04 This is the thing too.
18:53 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
18:53 Speaker 04 That people be like, why are you ordering so much? Are you done?
18:56 Jessie Ware? To have an opinion.
18:57 Speaker 04 Taste all of it. I do love that about like, do you find when you're like in Italy, but more so like France and in Spain with the tapas, like that's my jam. Ever since I was little, I like you were saying, I like to taste a little bit of a lot of stuff.
19:14 Jessie Ware? Love it.
19:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's so fun to me.
19:17 Jessie Ware? I I think people have the fear when I'm like, you have to scope out whether they're. Should we get a few plates for the table? And some people want just theirs on their own.
19:27 Speaker 04 Do you know there are some people that go to the same place and order the same meal their entire life? I have broken up with men. No, no, no, no, I'm not even kidding. I have broken up because I'm like, what is wrong with you? I eat from a different country a day. Like my lunch can be like a Vietnamese pho or something like that. And dinner, I'm gonna have something else, like Indian food or something. I can't, I'm a Gemini and it really kicks in where I'm like, mm mm, I need variety. I need to taste many different things.
20:02 Jessie Ware? What did this said person that you broke up with, um, what was their order that they had every time?
20:08 Speaker 04 He just got steak.
20:10 Jessie Ware? Gains, protein.
20:12 Speaker 04 I guess, yeah, I think. Or a steak. And then he would have like an arugula salad and then get like bland spinach.
20:22 Jessie Ware? No, this is not fun.
20:23 Speaker 04 But and I was like, what? You already have the rocket salad, why are you also?
20:27 Jessie Ware? The queen spinach.
20:28 Speaker 04 What's wrong?
20:29 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
20:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, mm mm.
20:32 Jessie Ware? Fair enough.
20:32 Speaker 04 It was the smallest I ever was in my life. Uh, because we kept going to that restaurant, um, but yeah, no, nah, mm mm.
20:41 Jessie Ware? So, so when you did the holdovers, which is such a beautiful film and you were wonderful.
20:47 Speaker 04 Thank you.
20:48 Jessie Ware? And congratulations on all the.
20:50 Speaker 04 Thank you so much.
20:51 Jessie Ware? You cooked.
20:53 Speaker 04 Yes.
20:54 Jessie Ware? In that film a lot.
20:55 Speaker 04 It was a real big deal to me.
20:56 Jessie Ware? Now, if we were going to.
20:58 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
20:59 Jessie Ware? Come to yours.
21:00 Speaker 04 Yes.
21:01 Jessie Ware? And it wasn't Thanksgiving and you were gonna kind of bring out the special. What would you be cooking for Lenny and I?
21:07 Speaker 04 You know what, honestly, that smells amazing.
21:11 Jessie Ware? It does smell, it smells great.
21:12 Speaker 04 It smells so good. What I genuinely, because people ask me this a lot, what I genuinely enjoy most is if when I know that people are coming, like right how we are about restaurants, I ask them ahead of time of like, what is something that you've had before that you absolutely love? Or something that you've never had before and you've been dying to try? And what I enjoy more than anything where I really geek out is the research. I like trying things that I've never made before and then I take great pride. And when then like, I normally need like hmm two, three times making it and I'm like, okay, I got it. Because normally what I do is I will look up at least five different recipes of the same dish.
21:57 Speaker 04 And when I like, I have recipe books and I love reading recipes. And there's certain things that I'm like, I don't know about that one ingredient. And then I'll find that the next one has that ingredient not in it and substitute it for something else. So out of those five recipes, I kind of come up with my own and it's, it's just so much fun. Like if I'm honest, it's, it's less of like, oh, this is my go to. I just have so much fun in trying.
22:26 Jessie Ware? Has it ever gone terribly wrong?
22:28 Speaker 04 No. And I'm not gonna be cocky at all. But I, but, but I took the time and I really research. That's the thing. And I think it's all about the ingredients.
22:37 Jessie Ware? Which apps do you use like for your research or are you just looking online or like, do you have the New York Times Cooking App? Love it.
22:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:45 Jessie Ware? Do you feel like you go to certain chefs more than others?
22:49 Speaker 04 Um, I think that New York Times Cooking is a beautiful, well-rounded site. I have an app, so it's helpful to just pull it up. I used to go on to Epicurious a lot.
23:00 Jessie Ware? Okay.
23:01 Speaker 04 That's like a nice, another nice, well-rounded one. There is this American chef who she's actually a brilliant recipe maker.
23:12 Jessie Ware? Who is it?
23:12 Speaker 04 Her website is called Butter Be Ready.
23:15 Jessie Ware? Okay.
23:16 Speaker 04 Oh lovely, thank you.
23:18 Jessie Ware? Thanks mum.
23:19 Speaker 04 Do you know what I mean? It's an art to make, and I say that to say, every single recipe of hers, I always
23:26 Speaker 03 Could you smooth the beans up?
23:27 Speaker 04 Put people, I turn people on to her because every single
23:31 Jessie Ware? Delicious mum.
23:32 Speaker 04 recipe that she made.
23:34 Jessie Ware? It works.
23:35 Speaker 04 It works and it's consistent. So she has a smothered turkey wing, she has a braised red wine short ribs. She's a really good recipe maker. So yeah, that's what I enjoy most.
23:47 Jessie Ware? My friend who does a lot of baking, she always goes to this Sally's Baking, like she's called Sally's Baking Addiction. I might have said it wrong.
23:55 Speaker 04 Are you bakers?
23:56 Jessie Ware? The only thing I do is sourdough.
23:58 Speaker 03 Hey darling, do you want to help yourself?
24:00 Speaker 04 Oh, that's perfect. Is that right?
24:01 Jessie Ware? Go on, have a little bit. No, is it rice and lentils?
24:05 Speaker 03 Help me sourdough.
24:05 Jessie Ware? Yes. Okay, thanks mum.
24:08 Speaker 03 There's the beans with garlic and ginger.
24:11 Speaker 04 Do you know I've been into Asian food recently? And there, there's this really nice trick with, with like the Chinese, like in Chinese restaurants, the Asian beans, what they do is they put them in a wok raw.
24:25 Jessie Ware? Okay.
24:26 Speaker 04 And then, well first you season your pot with like butter and the garlic powder and the white powder and salt. And then like actual knob of butter.
24:36 Jessie Ware? Mm hmm.
24:37 Speaker 04 And you let it kind of flash fry and like, you know how sometimes it has like
24:42 Jessie Ware? Blisters.
24:42 Speaker 04 Yes, which is so delicious. And then the very end, like tiny, tiny bit amount, maybe that much of water that you put in and cover it and it cooks it the rest of the way. And so it has that nice bite to it, yet it's still, oh, so good.
24:58 Jessie Ware? So this is a Molly Baz recipe. Have you ever done a Molly Baz?
25:01 Speaker 04 No.
25:02 Speaker 03 She's an American.
25:02 Jessie Ware? Chef. I think she's based in Los Angeles. I think she was on Bon Appetit quite a lot.
25:06 Speaker 04 Okay.
25:07 Jessie Ware? And I'm sure she's on New York Times as well, maybe.
25:10 Speaker 04 This is delicious.
25:10 Jessie Ware? It's lovely.
25:11 Speaker 04 Wow.
25:12 Speaker 03 I like it.
25:12 Jessie Ware? Really nice.
25:13 Speaker 04 It's lovely.
25:14 Speaker 03 Graham lentils and rice.
25:15 Speaker 04 You know, when I first smelled it, I thought it was gonna be like, strong, you know what I mean?
25:20 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
25:21 Speaker 04 But then when you eat it, it's so mild, but like
25:23 Jessie Ware? It's quite gentle, yeah.
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26:08 Speaker 04 Oh, wow, that's really delicious. That's really good. This is a really great one-pot meal.
26:14 Jessie Ware? Yeah, true.
26:14 Speaker 04 Like, see, I love things that are ea... I don't know how easy it was, so you tell me, but...
26:18 Jessie Ware? It was easy.
26:19 Speaker 04 Easy, but yeah, it gives quite a show.
26:22 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
26:23 Speaker 04 So people are like, wow, you really went all out for me.
26:26 Jessie Ware? I'm surprised you didn't do the New York Times, didn't, didn't, um...
26:28 Speaker 04 Oh, I did.
26:29 Jessie Ware? Oh, you did, you did, sorry.
26:31 Speaker 04 No, I did, no, I'm saying because I'm excited.
26:33 Jessie Ware? Come on, tell me about the New York Times cooking thing that you did.
26:36 Speaker 04 We made a pizza.
26:37 Jessie Ware? Well, you love Italy, don't you? You love the food, you love traveling there.
26:41 Speaker 04 I love the people, I love that it's run by women, let's be honest. The women run that country. It's so satisfying. And again, they're in their power, they can do everything. They can be domestic, they can cook, they can be a working woman. I wish we figured that out over in the States. I feel like it has to be one or the other. And I love that about Italy specifically, of how they can be all women, every woman, and check off all the boxes and not subtracting one from the other. But yeah, we made a pizza.
27:12 Jessie Ware? Did it go well?
27:13 Speaker 04 It went really well. I was really surprised, they all could cook. Um, Miles Teller...
27:17 Jessie Ware? He could cook?
27:18 Speaker 04 He could cook, yeah.
27:21 Jessie Ware? Okay, well, okay, this brings us on to the film. Eternity.
27:24 Speaker 04 Yes.
27:25 Jessie Ware? I loved it.
27:26 Speaker 04 Thank you.
27:27 Jessie Ware? I loved it.
27:28 Speaker 04 Thank you.
27:29 Jessie Ware? Such a good part.
27:30 Speaker 04 I don't know if it was, it's fun.
27:32 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
27:32 Speaker 04 Yeah, it was exciting to do something... Different and have a different kind of energy, you know, because Holdovers was so amazing. But it was like, we filmed it in the winter and it's, you know, a heavy subject matter. And so when I had read the script, it was presented to me right before Holdovers. And then it came back around because it was in early development.
27:55 Jessie Ware? Okay.
27:55 Speaker 04 But I always knew just from like the elevator picture of it all that I was like, oh, this is gonna be a good idea. Like, there's, there's something here.
28:03 Jessie Ware? For people that don't know what it's about, can you give?
28:07 Speaker 04 Yes, let me try to do this well and not give spoilers.
28:10 Jessie Ware? Yeah, I know.
28:11 Speaker 04 It's hard, right? So basically, an older woman in her life has been married to a man for many years, had a beautiful life, but when she was younger, her first love was this gorgeous man who, you know, went off to war and unfortunately had died. So they had like this quick, fast, big, beautiful love.
28:37 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
28:37 Speaker 04 That's her first love. So when she passes away, she goes to this kind of like purgatory kind of place that they call the junction. And there is where you choose where you want to spend your eternity. But she is plagued with a very interesting dilemma because when she realizes where she's at and when the war hero approaches her, she's stuck with whom she wants to spend eternity with.
29:12 Jessie Ware? You play an afterlife coordinator.
29:16 Speaker 04 Which is like a social worker, yeah, a social worker of purgatory. And so my job normally is to help when people pass to help them figure out, they have like a week to figure out where they're going to spend, what world.
29:33 Jessie Ware? But had you had a week, that what I couldn't work out?
29:35 Speaker 04 I know. So it's interesting. They, as the script is written, my character, there's one other character played by John Early, we have the same.
29:44 Jessie Ware? Who's so brilliant.
29:45 Speaker 04 He's so talented. Oh, my gosh, he's so talented. Who we choose for our eternity to be there.
29:53 Speaker 04 At this junction to help people. Oh, that's what you've chosen. We've chosen not to pick a world and to stay at this junction to help people.
30:03 Jessie Ware? Mm hmm. But I guess you're always allowed to choose an eternity.
30:07 Speaker 04 I that I don't know. I guess so. Yeah, I guess we could. I think that's what they were going for that like essentially if I ever was like, okay, now I want to go to blah blah blah world.
30:15 Jessie Ware? Did you think about all the different versions of eternity that that there was Paris land, there was beach worlds, like there was, you know, and there was all these different ones. Did it make you think about which eternity you would have liked to have chosen?
30:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, I want to go on a yacht. Oh, God. I want to do that. Seasick then. Well, see, that's the I want to I need to say all the rules and the bylaws, but I want to go on like Rich Carlton luxury headliner cruise. I've never been on a cruise in my life.
30:48 Jessie Ware? Maybe you should go on one before you decide to spend eternity.
30:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, because I don't want the seasick part, but you know, it's a yacht. So what I do know is I've been on a yacht before. Yeah. Not on a cruise ship. Yeah, I was filming a movie. Cool. In the Dominican Republic. Oh, no. It's called Lost City, uh, with Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum, and we were filming in the peak of the pandemic. We were filming in the Dominican Republic and like, mm, almost fifty percent of our scenes is like on water or near water. So our green room was a yacht. Isn't that amazing? Did you get seasick? Uh uh. I get seasick if I look at it. I hear it's kind of like private planes. You know what I mean? Like it's a yacht, so that I think they can work things out. You you're rocking less.
31:35 Jessie Ware? Do you watch?
31:35 Speaker 04 Does that make sense?
31:36 Jessie Ware? Do you watch Housewives? Any Housewives?
31:38 Speaker 04 I can't do the reality. Me neither.
31:40 Jessie Ware? Well, Housewives of Salt Lake City did a collab with Below Deck, which is another reality TV show.
31:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
31:46 Jessie Ware? And one of the poor girls, Angie, she was vomiting and they were on the most fabulous.
31:51 Speaker 04 Oh, that's interesting.
31:52 Jessie Ware? And she.
31:53 Speaker 04 Everyone's different.
31:54 Jessie Ware? They say you have to get your sea legs.
31:56 Speaker 04 Now, I will say that, that's a trip. So we would be filming during the day. I wouldn't film anything. And then I would get back on land and I would literally be like, you know, taking off my makeup, getting ready for bed. And I would be tripping.
32:10 Speaker 03 And you'd be in the bathroom.
32:11 Speaker 04 Cause you'd be like, yeah. As if the boat's still moving and I'm on solid ground. That's, that is a trip.
32:17 Jessie Ware? So, I mean, you went from a green room in Dominican Republic on a yacht to like, basically this whole film is set in one location, really.
32:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, we shot in Vancouver.
32:26 Jessie Ware? Okay.
32:26 Speaker 03 Vancouver.
32:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, so all that stuff, like when they go.
32:29 Speaker 03 Is everything being shot in Vancouver?
32:31 Speaker 04 A lot is, yeah. Or like just overseas.
32:34 Speaker 03 L A, no one's shooting anything there.
32:37 Speaker 04 No, I think it's the tax incentives and like everyone, it's so expensive. Yeah, they even shoot, they shoot more in New York than they shoot in L A right now. It's so weird. It's so weird.
32:48 Speaker 03 Weird because it's the whole point of L A is studios and films.
32:53 Speaker 04 I know, it's so odd.
32:55 Speaker 03 Do you think you'd move?
32:57 Speaker 04 I came to L A because when, I'm from Philadelphia, so I was like, oh yeah, New York for sure. But honestly, what was interesting is that I was getting more work.
33:08 Speaker 03 In L A.
33:08 Speaker 04 When I spent time in L A. I think it's like just being there. And to be able to have those meetings and it's a little bit different now with the pandemic and like Zoom and blah, blah, blah, like they, you can reach people.
33:20 Speaker 03 Have you finished that?
33:21 Speaker 04 Yes, I have. It's so delicious. Thank you so much.
33:23 Speaker 03 Such a pleasure.
33:24 Jessie Ware? So, I mean, Eternity, like, how long were you filming it for? And was?
33:28 Speaker 04 Just a month. So the stuff where there was like Mountain World, where she goes off of Callum for like that, well, eventually thinks Eternity, but that's Vancouver. That's no, that's no CGI or special effects.
33:41 Speaker 03 Looks very beachy.
33:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's gorgeous there.
33:43 Jessie Ware? Did you cook for your cast on this one?
33:46 Speaker 04 I didn't because we shot this very quickly. Lizzie and Callum started filming first. And Callum then had to leave because he had to go do another project. Miles and I came in later, coming off of another project. So all together, we only did, yeah, for like less than thirty days. So it was rather quick. And we just, they were so efficient and we got so much done in a little bit of time. But no, I didn't. But there's some pretty nice restaurants in Vancouver.
34:12 Jessie Ware? Really?
34:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, it was delicious. They're known for their steaks. I didn't know that.
34:17 Speaker 03 Oh, God, you should have been with the bloke, the, the acts. He would have liked it, wouldn't he?
34:20 Speaker 04 He would have had a blast. Yeah.
34:23 Jessie Ware? And now. We ask everybody what their last supper would be. Um, that would be a starter, an appetizer, a main, a dessert and a drink of choice. I think I know your drink of choice, but I'm not sure. You're going to a desert island. You're not coming back for a very long time. What would be on that menu?
34:42 Speaker 04 I love seafood, but uh when, I think it was like twenty nineteen.
34:48 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
34:49 Speaker 04 I developed an allergy to shellfish.
34:51 Jessie Ware? Oh, my god, that's so rubbish.
34:53 Speaker 04 And I love it.
34:55 Jessie Ware? Was it a bad oyster? Did you have?
34:57 Speaker 04 No, I had, I have a French bulldog. I'm allergic, but I love her and I.
35:04 Jessie Ware? You're allergic to your dog?
35:05 Speaker 04 And so what I distinctly remember is it was Christmas.
35:09 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
35:09 Speaker 04 And my mom had made like a batch of Alaskan crab legs. And I remember I had ate that and then I went to go give my dog a bath.
35:21 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
35:22 Speaker 04 Diabolical. I looked a mess for a week.
35:28 Jessie Ware? Wow.
35:28 Speaker 04 So now, and I tested it out years later, see like, oh, am I still allergic? Very much so. And it lasts a week. I can take the Benadryl. I went to the emergency room to get the steroid shot.
35:41 Jessie Ware? Hives?
35:42 Speaker 04 Hives.
35:43 Jessie Ware? So no vomiting?
35:44 Speaker 04 No vomiting.
35:45 Jessie Ware? Just like horrendous.
35:46 Speaker 04 Inchiness, like swelling, bloated. My face looks crazy. My eye swells up. It's. I'll get like from the neck down, I'll get hives all over and my face and my neck just like.
36:01 Speaker 04 I look like Quasimodo.
36:02 Jessie Ware? Mate, you went out with a bang though with a, you know, crab.
36:06 Speaker 04 I know.
36:06 Jessie Ware? Like, it sounded really good.
36:07 Speaker 04 So I would, I would say if I could and if I didn't have that allergy, I used to make, oh, so cute. I used to make, I still make, but I just can't eat it, a spinach artichoke dip with crab.
36:21 Jessie Ware? Oh, with crab. Thanks, mum.
36:22 Speaker 04 Appetizer.
36:23 Jessie Ware? Mum makes a spinach artichoke dip, but mum, she makes it with crab as well.
36:29 Speaker 04 Thank you.
36:30 Jessie Ware? Trifle, is that popular in the States?
36:32 Speaker 04 No, and we would probably call it like parfait.
36:35 Jessie Ware? Oh, parfait.
36:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, cause it's layered like that.
36:37 Jessie Ware? Pudding.
36:38 Speaker 04 No.
36:39 Jessie Ware? No. Okay. Okay, so you're doing your own made spinach artichoke crab dip.
36:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, with lots of crab, faux lobster, like all the seafood, right? Cause it's my last.
36:52 Jessie Ware? What do you dip with?
36:54 Speaker 04 I really like pumpernickel bread. Right? And then there is a bread and I don't know if they have it. Anywhere else, there's a place called Cheesecake Factory. That brown bread?
37:08 Jessie Ware? Oh, I've never had the brown bread.
37:10 Speaker 04 What?
37:10 Jessie Ware? I don't know, I used to just have the cheesecake.
37:13 Speaker 04 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The brown bread.
37:17 Jessie Ware? Okay.
37:18 Speaker 04 I don't think it's pumper, I don't know what it is. It is so delicious. Um, but I would have that as an appetizer.
37:25 Jessie Ware? This is delicious, mum.
37:27 Speaker 03 But you like trifle.
37:28 Jessie Ware? I love trifle. Love it.
37:31 Speaker 04 It's so bright.
37:33 Speaker 03 It's mixed berries at the bottom.
37:35 Speaker 04 Oh, gosh, what's the like?
37:37 Jessie Ware? Crunch thing that you've got on top?
37:38 Speaker 03 They're hearts. I thought they were rose petals.
37:43 Jessie Ware? They're quite nice.
37:46 Speaker 04 Is it like a cookie or something or? Is it sponge?
37:51 Speaker 03 Sponge cake.
37:54 Speaker 04 Wow, that's really nice.
37:56 Jessie Ware? Okay, main.
37:57 Speaker 04 At first I was thinking like the ultimate like soul food meal. But then I think about like pasta, because there's been really dreamy, simple plates of pasta. That I almost cried over. That is just so.
38:16 Jessie Ware? Pachypepe.
38:17 Speaker 04 No, I love when they do, so I can't have clams, but.
38:24 Speaker 04 I just love.
38:26 Jessie Ware? I know.
38:26 Speaker 04 It is just olive oil.
38:28 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
38:29 Speaker 04 Garlic, crushed red pepper. And gosh, they baffle me. It is so simple.
38:38 Jessie Ware? The producers. Have you been to the River Cafe whilst you've been here?
38:41 Speaker 04 No.
38:42 Jessie Ware? I feel like that's, you've got to go. You've got to get someone to take you because it's Benny.
38:46 Speaker 04 I went to, what is it? Novikov? Novikov?
38:50 Jessie Ware? Novikov, I don't.
38:51 Speaker 04 Novikov, N O V I K O V.
38:54 Jessie Ware? I don't know that.
38:55 Speaker 04 Half the restaurant is like Asian food and the other half is Italian.
38:58 Jessie Ware? Never heard of it. Was it good?
39:01 Speaker 04 Yeah. It's good. But you've got to go to River Cafe.
39:04 Speaker 03 Where are you staying here?
39:06 Speaker 04 At the Rosewood.
39:08 Jessie Ware? Oh, nice.
39:09 Speaker 04 The Hoban, yeah, yeah, nice.
39:11 Speaker 03 Oh, it's nice. They have a nice dining room. Hoban Dining Room.
39:15 Jessie Ware? There's a little local place really near you called Chao Bella, which is very sweet. They give you big chunks of like Parmesan. However, like you can walk there. It's a good little street. But I do feel like maybe you should get someone to take you to River Cafe.
39:28 Speaker 03 When you were acting with Paul, is it Giacometti?
39:32 Speaker 04 Oh, Giamatti.
39:33 Speaker 03 Giamatti. And his eyes were all, how did you look? I would have had another breakdown. Cause he had a special Google eye put in. Yeah, to do, cause you had definitely one eye up the chimney and one out the door.
39:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
39:49 Speaker 03 And but I would have thought acting with him and you're looking at him and it's going that way and that way, you wouldn't know where to look.
39:55 Speaker 04 Do you just look at the one steady one? Or I would just look at like the bridge of his nose?
39:59 Speaker 03 You had to. And has the, the guy who played the young guy?
40:03 Speaker 04 Yes.
40:03 Speaker 03 Is he acting? Has he done his job?
40:05 Speaker 04 For sure he is.
40:06 Speaker 03 What's he doing now?
40:07 Speaker 04 I got off that plane and Heathrow, huge billboards plastered everywhere of Now You See Me. It was a movie before with like, uh, Morgan Freeman and Woody Harrelson and, uh, James Franco's brother, I'm sorry.
40:25 Jessie Ware? Dave Franco?
40:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, he's in that new movie.
40:27 Speaker 03 Oh, great. So he's doing really well. He deserves it. Yeah.
40:31 Speaker 04 Sweet kid.
40:32 Jessie Ware? We haven't actually finished your last supper.
40:34 Speaker 04 Okay.
40:35 Jessie Ware? We need to get.
40:36 Speaker 04 I would say, I would say.
40:37 Jessie Ware? You're going fungi.
40:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, without the clams.
40:40 Jessie Ware? I can't stand this. You're crying. It's so unfair.
40:42 Speaker 04 But you know what's weird? I can have muscles.
40:45 Jessie Ware? Oh.
40:45 Speaker 04 I know, but the little.
40:47 Jessie Ware? How did you find this out?
40:48 Speaker 04 Trial and error.
40:50 Jessie Ware? Oh, you're just like seeing what goes, gives you highs.
40:52 Speaker 04 I was telling her it's a new allergy as of like, not even 10 years ago, like 2018, 2019.
40:58 Speaker 03 Can you desensitize yourself by having the odd little clam?
41:02 Speaker 04 So this is what's interesting. I can if I'm abroad. Like if I'm along the Mediterranean in a small dose, like I tasted it and it's done, then I'm okay. In the States, no, unless randomly New Orleans is known for its shrimp in particular of wa- uh, of fresh water, but it's they call it sweet water. Those I can have maybe five.
41:27 Jessie Ware? Oh, you've really done your research.
41:29 Speaker 04 But I could do crawfish, which is interesting. But I don't wanna push that. Cause I don't want that to be, I I think it's because my body's not used to crawfish. I love seafood, but I hadn't had that. So, cause technically that is crustacean.
41:43 Jessie Ware? Ordinary fish.
41:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just crustacean. So shrimp, lobster, crab.
41:48 Jessie Ware? Can you do scallops? No.
41:49 Speaker 04 Yep, do it all the time.
41:50 Jessie Ware? Oh, can I have? Okay.
41:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm not gonna feel that sorry. You're eating scallops, yeah. And mussels, that's kind of it.
41:57 Jessie Ware? Pudding dessert. You've got a sweet tooth?
42:00 Speaker 04 No, but I have had maybe four sticky puddings since I've been here in a week. You like it?
42:11 Jessie Ware? Where are you getting them from? Room service?
42:13 Speaker 04 Yep, anywhere I can get it. It is so, do you know what? It kind of reminds me of like.
42:21 Speaker 04 It's heavy, like a umami version of a, like a banana bread. Do you know what I mean? A bit.
42:30 Speaker 04 I love a toffee. And it's got dates in it, yeah. So when I have, Rosewood Room Service, they just thinly slice a quarter a date. And just place it on top. So within it, it's not, there's no dates or raisins or anything inside. And I like that.
42:49 Jessie Ware? So that would be your pudding, your dessert of choice for the last supper?
42:54 Speaker 04 No, it would be banana pudding.
42:55 Jessie Ware? Okay.
42:55 Speaker 04 I love banana pudding.
42:56 Jessie Ware? See, I only learnt about banana pudding through.
42:59 Speaker 04 American people.
43:00 Jessie Ware? American people.
43:01 Speaker 04 So how do you make yours? So in a way, it's kind of like.
43:04 Jessie Ware? Like that, yeah.
43:05 Speaker 04 So instead of sponge cake, we use, they call them vanilla wafers.
43:09 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
43:09 Speaker 04 They're like just little vanilla wafer, little cookies. And we place them all on the bottom.
43:16 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
43:16 Speaker 04 And then some people either will do a banana flavoured pudding, or just a vanilla pudding. And then you have the thinly sliced bananas that you place all around. And those are the tiers. And then you do the cookies. Banana custard.
43:29 Jessie Ware? What's gonna be the dessert for Thanksgiving? Would it?
43:33 Speaker 04 We're gonna do, uh, first I have written down sweet potato pie and I was like, nope, let's take it up a notch. So now I'm gonna do a sweet potato cheesecake.
43:43 Speaker 03 Wow.
43:44 Jessie Ware? Alright, nice.
43:44 Speaker 04 We're gonna do apple pie, but I like to have the apple pie. I like to merge things. I love fusion. So because I know that people are gonna miss the pump, the pecan pie of it all, in the apple pie, I want it to be a bit more of a nutty crumble on top. So I'll make it like a conventional one.
44:04 Speaker 03 What do you call that?
44:05 Jessie Ware? Considerate queen.
44:07 Speaker 04 Strudel, yeah, almost like, but I love the crust of pie. So I'm literally like putting both things in together. So I have the apple filling, have a strudel and then lay.
44:18 Speaker 03 I think you should leave now. To get going, I'm telling you.
44:22 Speaker 04 And so we're gonna do that, that. My partner makes a really good bread pudding.
44:26 Jessie Ware? Oh, what, like bread and butter?
44:28 Speaker 03 No, I don't think it's the same.
44:29 Speaker 04 Bread pudding is like, you make like a custard almost and you break up day old bread and you put it in all in and you bake it.
44:37 Speaker 03 Okay, but probably similar, yeah.
44:38 Jessie Ware? Sounds similar. We have one that we do, yeah, which is.
44:41 Speaker 03 You pour like a custard over the top.
44:43 Jessie Ware? Yeah, it's exactly the same. Does he ever use a panettone bread?
44:47 Speaker 04 No.
44:48 Speaker 03 Do that.
44:49 Speaker 04 Okay.
44:49 Jessie Ware? It really, cause it's sweet and it's got the kind of currants in it or whatever.
44:52 Speaker 04 That's smart.
44:53 Jessie Ware? It's really delicious.
44:54 Speaker 04 That's really smart.
44:55 Speaker 03 What music? What's gonna be your background music?
44:58 Speaker 04 Do you know what? That, what's so fun for us about Thanksgiving is that that kind of is the thing that brings in the whole holiday season. So like when we're cooking, that's like the first time that the Christmas music starts to come out.
45:13 Speaker 03 So who are you listening to?
45:15 Speaker 04 Bing Crosby, Nat King Cole.
45:18 Speaker 03 Oh, the old, the old, the OGs. Is that what you're saying?
45:22 Speaker 04 For sure. Oh, it just feels so comforting. Yeah.
45:26 Speaker 03 And then will you celebrate Christmas as well?
45:29 Speaker 04 Yes. Yeah. So it's, it's nice. It like, that's the thing that starts it off. Um, and it feels a little less pressure Thanksgiving then.
45:39 Jessie Ware? And do you go around saying what you're thankful for?
45:41 Speaker 04 We do.
45:42 Jessie Ware? Do you know what you're gonna say?
45:44 Speaker 04 I think I'm most thankful for actually the people who have been in my life and has stayed by my side. Through all of this and the career and everything and all these many changes that has happened in my life. I'm really grateful for the stability and and them being around me. It's my parents, they do not play around, they do not play around. And I think growing up too, I was, I lived in the inner city, but I, being that my mom's an educator, education was very important. So I went to lots of, my entire primary school career was at private schools and like private international schools. And in many instances, I was either the only black girl or like, you know what I mean?
46:26 Speaker 04 I was going to school with people who are very wealthy, but because of my intelligence, I got in, like I got basically on scholarship.
46:32 Jessie Ware? You went to Yale?
46:33 Speaker 04 I did go to Yale. And so I was always taught, whatever you learn and experience, you always bring it back. Home to your family, to your community, to your friends. And so, yeah, it's my parents that and how I was raised. And I'm just grateful for this to be one of my gifts that I have. And I just try to make the best use of it and I don't hold too tightly on it. I really love cooking. I would be a chef if I could.
47:01 Jessie Ware? What's next? What's, what's your next project?
47:04 Speaker 04 I have a movie, the theater.
47:07 Jessie Ware? Come back.
47:08 Speaker 04 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I would probably do in the West End first before I did.
47:11 Jessie Ware? Really?
47:12 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so special.
47:14 Jessie Ware? Is it, are they more, not that you would need a forgiving crowd, but I feel, are the Broadway crowd a harder?
47:21 Speaker 04 No, it's not even that. There's just so, and I shouldn't say there's not love for Broadway in New York. It's far from it. And maybe even more just nostalgia for me because that's where I started and I was so scared and nervous and everything was so new. And it felt like family, like genuinely, in such a beautiful way. And like, they knew that I was here, this is my first job, and I was homesick because it was during the holidays and like, I don't want to say fans, because that makes me feel weird, but like, the peo- the audience would like give me little gifts.
47:53 Jessie Ware? The fans.
47:54 Speaker 04 It was so unbelievable, but yes, I absolutely would. But I have a um, a movie that we filmed in Paris. Uh, with Natalie Portman and Jenny Ortega and Catherine Zeta Jones, yeah. It's like a whodunit. Um, so we're just starting now with some of the film festivals. And so I guess it wa- I don't know when it's gonna come out, but I'm assuming if we're beginning now.
48:17 Jessie Ware? You never stop working, girl. Before we let you go.
48:20 Speaker 04 Yes.
48:21 Jessie Ware? Can you give us a nostalgic taste or scent that can transport you back somewhere?
48:26 Speaker 04 Oh, a nostalgic scent or taste.
48:31 Speaker 04 Food, like a, a.
48:32 Jessie Ware? Yeah, like, yeah.
48:34 Speaker 04 Potato salad.
48:35 Jessie Ware? Oh.
48:36 Speaker 04 My grandma's potato salad. We ma- she made it at every.
48:41 Jessie Ware? Every function.
48:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, every function, whether it was like, it would be there on the Thanksgiving table, which probably I wouldn't normally like, you know, do that, or Christmas, or equally with the cookouts and stuff like that, and she had a special bowl that she would put it in. So every time I taste that, immediately, it's something that's so ingrained in our family, immediately I think of her and family and how that was just such a major part and core of my family, a lot of my family has passed away, but when I was younger, we were just so close and all the aunts and uncles and all the kids would always come over and there was always potato salad there. So I think if I were to taste
49:25 Speaker 04 some of that or smell it, then immediately it would transport me back there.
49:29 Jessie Ware? Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. We've loved having you.
49:33 Speaker 04 Thank you so much.
49:34 Jessie Ware? We love talking food.
49:35 Speaker 04 Oh, a dream.
49:37 Jessie Ware? You've been perfect for that.
49:38 Speaker 04 Thank you.
49:39 Jessie Ware? And good luck with eternity.
49:41 Speaker 04 Thank you so much.
49:42 Jessie Ware? And also just, we can't wait to see you in more things, but yes, please, can you just give us your voice a bit more, please? Because it is, it is fantastic.
49:48 Speaker 04 Thank you. I really, really appreciate that.
50:04 Jessie Ware? Divine Joy Randolph, I loved her.
50:07 Speaker 03 She was divine.
50:08 Jessie Ware? Beyond.
50:09 Speaker 03 Absolutely gorgeous.
50:10 Jessie Ware? Loved her.
50:11 Speaker 03 What a lovely woman.
50:12 Jessie Ware? I feel like we could do a part two with Divine.
50:15 Speaker 03 We could.
50:16 Jessie Ware? I feel like we only scratched the surface of her food stories.
50:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:21 Jessie Ware? And I loved chatting to her. She was so.
50:24 Speaker 03 So, so humble.
50:25 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
50:26 Speaker 03 And kind of, yeah, just a gorgeous woman. Just gorgeous.
50:30 Jessie Ware? Um, I hope you eat well in London, Divine, and please come back and do the podcast again because you're fab.
50:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:38 Jessie Ware? Eternity is out on the 5th of December. Go and see it. She's gorgeous in it and funny. And she has a fabulous blonde wig and it's a great cast. And it's got two of our old guests, Elizabeth Olsen and Callum Turner, also in it. And the food mum.
50:53 Speaker 03 Nice.
50:54 Jessie Ware? Food mum was amazing.
50:55 Speaker 03 Good.
50:56 Jessie Ware? Really good.
50:56 Speaker 03 Good.
50:57 Jessie Ware? Delicious.
50:58 Speaker 03 Yeah. I think the chicken recipe was.
51:00 Jessie Ware? Like Moorish, could have kept going.
51:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, easy recipe.
51:03 Jessie Ware? Really, it wasn't too stressful. Thank you, Molly Baz. We'll be doing more of your recipes. And the trifle was.
51:09 Speaker 03 That's a Lenny trifle recipe.
51:11 Jessie Ware? That's a Lenny trifle recipe.
51:13 Speaker 03 Yeah. It's getting Christmasy already.
51:15 Jessie Ware? Yes.
51:16 Speaker 03 Last night I was in town to meet some friends.
51:20 Jessie Ware? Christmas trees are up.
51:21 Speaker 03 Piccadilly Circus, you want to see Fortnum and Mason's windows. They're done like an advent calendar, like one, two, three on all their windows outside. Looks, I think Fortnum's does the best Christmas window dressing.
51:35 Jessie Ware? I've never seen it.
51:36 Speaker 03 It's just gorgeous. It's so Christmasy and fun. It looks great.
51:40 Jessie Ware? Well, speaking of other shops, I, well, I will have already done this gig by the time this comes out, but I am singing at the Royal Albert Hall to celebrate Choose Love being.
51:52 Speaker 03 10 years old.
51:53 Jessie Ware? 10 years old. And we're singing, I'm singing with the House Gospel Choir, which I'm really excited about. And also, um, just really an important charity that do incredibly brilliant work. But they also, um, if you are going to be in London around the Christmas period or before, and you're going Christmas shopping, or you don't know what to do or get, Choose Love have a pop-up shop.
52:15 Speaker 03 Where is it this year?
52:16 Jessie Ware? It's on Regent Street this year because I drove past it yesterday. It looks fab. You can get either a fabulous t-shirt and that money will go towards displaced people across the world, to help displaced people across the world. But also you can pay for specific things, whether that's a life jacket or worn clothing or food. So it's really amazing and it's a great Christmas present. Are we helping this year? Would you like to be on the tills, Len? I wouldn't mind being on the tills. Okay, well, let's get you a slot. Okay. Okay. Anyway, so that's Choose Loves Shoppers in Regent Street. Thank you for listening, or if you're on YouTube watching, thank you for watching, and we'll see you next week.
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