Pod Insights Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware Josh Widdicombe About this episode In a first ever for the podcast, this week both mum & I managed to forget to cook…Fortunately our guest Josh Widdicombe was actually stuck on a train during a tube strike and we had time to get it all sorted. When Josh finally made it to my house, we covered everything from how 'The Last Leg' was formed, his thoughts on school events, WhatsApp groups, eating his parents famous ‘Hippy Stew’, spicy food and how it’s his role at home to keep a tight control on the fridge! We also heard all about how he put together his brand new comedy tour ‘Not My Cup of Tea’ which is on the road until May 2026. It sounds brilliant, you don’t want to miss it! Thank you Josh for schlepping up from Devon, we loved having you join us. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.
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0:35 Jessie Ware? Hello and welcome to Table manners. I'm Jessie Ware and well, we've had our first situation in how many years?
0:44 Speaker 02 Seven years. Eight years.
0:47 Jessie Ware? Yeah, this has never happened before.
0:49 Speaker 02 It's called poor communication, darling.
0:51 Jessie Ware? Or too much communication that like communication fatigue.
0:55 Speaker 02 You thought I was cooking. We're in your house.
0:57 Jessie Ware? Yeah, we're doing the recordings here this week. So I kind of thought that you were cooking the main.
1:05 Speaker 02 What made you think that?
1:06 Jessie Ware? Because you sent me a recipe and I went, oh yeah, that looks good. You should do that.
1:10 Speaker 02 Do you know what would have been a good idea? You say, so you're doing the main mum.
1:14 Jessie Ware? I just thought you were.
1:15 Speaker 02 Because I was thought I was doing two desserts this week.
1:18 Jessie Ware? So anyway.
1:19 Speaker 02 So I arrived.
1:20 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
1:21 Speaker 02 Relaxed.
1:22 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
1:22 Speaker 02 Not cooked anything because you'd done the dessert as well. And you said, what did you say?
1:29 Jessie Ware? So you've made a kind of soup, haven't you mum?
1:31 Speaker 02 And I said, oh no, I've not made anything.
1:34 Jessie Ware? Luckily for us, there's a big tube strike and our guest is late. So it was panic stations, but luckily we have excellent listeners and chefs in the room. So we all, I saw that I'd bought some really nice courgettes the other day and hadn't used them yet. And it was very much a fridge raid and a quick trip to the local shops.
1:58 Speaker 02 But gorgeous.
1:58 Jessie Ware? It was a team effort. So I decided on, you can't go wrong with bold bean beans. So I have a jar jar of those butter beans. So it's a butter bean with schmaltzy courgettes. I put a bit of vinegar to bring a bit of tang to it, but then also I put some cream in. So anyway, it's nice and with some dill and oregano. And then I'm going to put some goat's cheese on the top. And then I've done. Anna Jones, I did it for somebody on this podcast and I can't remember who. It's the wedge salad in that brilliant cookbook of hers, Easy Wins. And I've done that wedge salad where she does it with a Greek yogurt, tahini, chives and dill.
2:40 Jessie Ware? And then these breadcrumbs with pitted olives and I had some green olives in the fridge. So it's very much, my husband's going to be thrilled, it's incredibly sustainable. And then for pudding, my husband is the king of the crumble. But we have really beautiful fruit trees in our garden, which sometimes it makes it smell like a brewery out there. And we've had so many that we haven't known what to do with it. So Sam, this summer, has made it his mission to find the ones without maggots in. Because we have had a better year this year. And so we've got loads of apples, so he had already done some apples. But to my dismay, when I, he was like, babe, I'm gonna make it now, so sweet, thank you so much, Sam.
3:26 Jessie Ware? He'd left skins on.
3:28 Speaker 02 He always does.
3:29 Jessie Ware? I hate it.
3:30 Speaker 02 He always does.
3:31 Jessie Ware? I want to put this to the listener, who wants a skin of apple in their crumble? Anyone?
3:37 Speaker 02 I don't think it matters, to be honest.
3:39 Jessie Ware? I think it's not sheep.
3:40 Speaker 02 I wouldn't do it.
3:42 Jessie Ware? It's not gourmet.
3:43 Speaker 02 I've tasted his and I think it's all right.
3:45 Jessie Ware? It's good for your like roughage, gut, whatever. But I didn't think Josh Widdicombe necessarily needed that fibre today. I don't know, he has loads of fibre, he's a vegetarian. Anyway, so I tried to pull a load of the skin off, but there probably is going to be a bit of skin in there. And then we had some damsons from the last month that were in the freezer, so I've put them in. So we've got a damson and apple crumble and he's done the crumble top. But I kind of just text him saying, can you just do a bit more crumble top? So, yeah. I don't think it's gonna happen. I'm sure it's gonna be delicious. With hargandass vanilla, it's great.
4:19 Speaker 02 Yeah, perfect, job done.
4:21 Jessie Ware? Let's talk about who we've got on the podcast.
4:23 Speaker 02 Well, I'm very excited about him because I've admired him for so long. He is on the last leg. And probably one of the most popular podcasts you can imagine.
4:35 Jessie Ware? Parenting Hell.
4:36 Speaker 02 Parenting Hell, which started during Covid.
4:38 Jessie Ware? He's actually coming to us from whilst being on tour. It's a humongous tour, not my cup of tea. He's doing everywhere, I think until like May 2026. Josh Whittaker coming up on Take My Eyes.
4:58 Jessie Ware? Josh Whittaker, you are here.
5:00 Speaker 03 I'm here at last.
5:01 Jessie Ware? I'd call that a schlep.
5:03 Speaker 02 A schlep.
5:03 Speaker 03 I know, I left London.
5:06 Jessie Ware? London?
5:07 Speaker 03 I quit London.
5:08 Jessie Ware? Oh, okay.
5:08 Speaker 03 Last Wednesday.
5:10 Jessie Ware? Forever.
5:11 Speaker 03 Forever. Well, not maybe forever, you never know what will happen.
5:14 Jessie Ware? And that was East London, wasn't it?
5:16 Speaker 03 That was East London, this is South East.
5:17 Jessie Ware? And then we've brought you back to this hell.
5:20 Speaker 03 Well, no, I was already coming back.
5:22 Jessie Ware? But.
5:23 Speaker 03 Do you know what, in the cab, I was thinking, I've made the right decision.
5:25 Jessie Ware? Oh, you're feeling a bit smug today.
5:28 Speaker 03 No, not smug, no, because the train from Exeter was, the first one was cancelled. So we've got to take that.
5:34 Jessie Ware? Okay.
5:35 Speaker 03 Got to take that.
5:36 Jessie Ware? Which one is it?
5:37 Speaker 02 Great Western.
5:38 Speaker 03 Great Western, it's Great Western.
5:39 Jessie Ware? Fucking great.
5:40 Speaker 03 Well, tell me, let me tell you about Great Western.
5:42 Jessie Ware? Yeah, let's do this.
5:43 Speaker 03 Uh, they said they don't do sparkling water anymore.
5:47 Jessie Ware? Why?
5:48 Speaker 03 And then, get this, get this.
5:49 Jessie Ware? Why is that?
5:50 Speaker 03 So get this, I was, I was, I had a first class ticket, but I sat in economy.
5:54 Jessie Ware? Why?
5:55 Speaker 03 Because there was, it was full in first class.
5:57 Jessie Ware? Okay.
5:59 Speaker 03 And the woman came past and she was like, I said, can I have a sparkling water? She said, we've only got still.
6:05 Jessie Ware? Did you say I was meant to be in first?
6:06 Speaker 03 No, I didn't.
6:07 Jessie Ware? Okay, you didn't.
6:07 Speaker 03 But then later on, I was like, I'm going to go get a tea from first, for free.
6:11 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
6:12 Speaker 03 And what was in there? What could I see with my little eyes?
6:14 Jessie Ware? What?
6:15 Speaker 03 Sparkling waters.
6:18 Jessie Ware? So. Did you get a name?
6:20 Speaker 03 No, but I got a sparkling water, two of them, two of them.
6:24 Speaker 02 But why didn't you sit in first?
6:26 Speaker 03 So I had the options between, well, I don't know, you've bought the first class ticket, then you're sitting in economy, I'm a man. The first class ones were full enough that I'd had to sit next to someone else and I'd rather sit with two for myself.
6:40 Speaker 02 Would you?
6:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, I would, yeah.
6:42 Speaker 02 No, I'd like the service.
6:43 Speaker 03 Would you?
6:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, the sparkling water.
6:45 Speaker 03 You'd like the sparkling water.
6:46 Jessie Ware? She likes the chat.
6:47 Speaker 02 I like the sparkling water.
6:48 Speaker 03 She likes the chat, that's why I don't like to sit with people.
6:51 Jessie Ware? Do you find that people are like, oh, Josh, let's have a laugh? And then you feel you have to entertain them?
6:57 Speaker 03 Headphones in very quickly. Yeah. Do you not do that?
7:01 Speaker 02 No.
7:02 Speaker 03 No.
7:03 Speaker 02 I don't like AirPods. You put AirPods in.
7:06 Jessie Ware? AirPods, yeah.
7:07 Speaker 02 But Jessie virtually wears them all the time, even when she's with me, so she doesn't have to communicate.
7:12 Jessie Ware? Josh, have you actually eaten?
7:14 Speaker 03 No, because I was.
7:15 Jessie Ware? Okay.
7:15 Speaker 03 I had a banana.
7:17 Jessie Ware? Okay, so can I explain what happened?
7:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, I know, I'm sorry.
7:19 Jessie Ware? No, no, no, no, no. It's kind of okay because now I have to say sorry to you. So.
7:25 Speaker 03 Thankfully.
7:26 Jessie Ware? Mum comes in.
7:27 Speaker 03 Yep.
7:28 Jessie Ware? And I say, so mum, you're making that soup, right? And she went.
7:33 Speaker 03 Oh, no.
7:33 Jessie Ware? No, you're making, you're making dinner. And I said, no, I'm not. No, I've made something, but it's been a bit of a situation of trying to find something in my house.
7:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:44 Jessie Ware? But I think it will be okay.
7:45 Speaker 03 Okay.
7:46 Jessie Ware? It's, um, we're having.
7:47 Speaker 03 It's my kind of ready, steady cook situation.
7:49 Jessie Ware? It's a little bit like the.
7:50 Speaker 02 The invention test.
7:51 Jessie Ware? The invention test, okay?
7:53 Speaker 02 Here's the ingredients.
7:55 Jessie Ware? This has never happened on the podcast, ever.
7:57 Speaker 03 Okay, great.
7:57 Jessie Ware? And I was prepared to get a takeaway, but thank God we didn't do that because.
8:00 Speaker 03 So who did do it?
8:02 Jessie Ware? I made it with a little help from my friends. I didn't help at all. Lenny just sat there and went, no darling, no.
8:09 Speaker 02 I didn't check and talk. I didn't do anything.
8:11 Jessie Ware? So, so we do have a meal for you.
8:14 Speaker 03 Okay, great.
8:15 Jessie Ware? And I think it's gonna be nice.
8:16 Speaker 03 I'm looking forward to it.
8:17 Jessie Ware? You're vegetarian, aren't you?
8:19 Speaker 02 How long have you been vegetarian?
8:20 Speaker 03 My whole life.
8:21 Speaker 02 Oh, you were brought up.
8:22 Speaker 03 I was brought up veggie.
8:23 Speaker 02 Have you got veggie parents?
8:24 Speaker 03 I've got veggie parents.
8:26 Speaker 02 Did they have veggie parents?
8:28 Speaker 03 No, but they were.
8:29 Speaker 02 Genetic?
8:30 Speaker 03 It's not.
8:32 Jessie Ware? Stop, mum. You know you piss them off so much. Stop it.
8:36 Speaker 02 No, but I, no, I'm not. I just wondered.
8:38 Speaker 03 So I'm not, I like, I'm not.
8:39 Speaker 02 So you've never tasted meat?
8:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, I have mistakenly or various situations. I once mistakenly ate a steak subway, like I picked up the wrong one.
8:50 Speaker 02 Oh, my God. Did you like it?
8:52 Speaker 03 Well, I was so drunk that I didn't really notice. I was in Brazil and it was like 3am and we got given the tour and I picked up the wrong one. And then I was, at the end, I was like, I didn't order cheese sauce. Because I just thought it was some kind of fake meat patty, do you know what I mean?
9:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, and are your children veggies?
9:11 Speaker 03 No.
9:12 Speaker 02 Oh, interesting.
9:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:15 Speaker 02 So who cooks the meat for them?
9:17 Speaker 03 Oh, I could, my wife probably, but I'd put her, I wouldn't roast a chicken.
9:23 Speaker 02 Is she vegetarian?
9:25 Speaker 03 No, but she's kind of, she's a veggie by default.
9:28 Speaker 02 And now you've moved down, back down to Devon?
9:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:32 Speaker 02 Is it like countryside and you're going to keep chickens and goats? Oh, okay.
9:36 Speaker 03 Yeah, so it's.
9:37 Speaker 02 That's a cool place to live.
9:38 Speaker 03 It's quite nice, actually.
9:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
9:40 Speaker 03 I met a man this morning, he was a hacker.
9:42 Jessie Ware? What, like a computer hacker?
9:44 Speaker 02 Was he like?
9:45 Jessie Ware? Like Johnny Lee Miller?
9:47 Speaker 02 The one that did Marks and Spencer's over, maybe?
9:52 Speaker 03 No.
9:52 Speaker 02 Well, I'd kill him.
9:53 Speaker 03 He was a hacker and then he became, you know, like.
9:57 Speaker 02 Kosher.
9:58 Speaker 03 He became kosher, he works for Amazon now. So, because they, they employ hackers.
10:04 Jessie Ware? Still, I'm sorry, when did you manage to have this conversation when you had your earpods in?
10:09 Speaker 03 In Starbucks at Exeter St David's Station.
10:12 Jessie Ware? But like, when you, oh, when the train was delayed?
10:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:15 Speaker 02 How did he introduce himself?
10:16 Speaker 03 He was a dad at my daughter's, he's a dad at the school my daughter's just gone to.
10:21 Speaker 02 So you said hi.
10:22 Speaker 03 And he came, oh, I didn't, he came over to me and he was like, oh, you're at the coffee morning.
10:27 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
10:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, and I was like, I'd been keeping my head down at the coffee morning.
10:31 Speaker 02 Have you?
10:32 Speaker 03 I didn't want to go to the coffee morning.
10:34 Speaker 02 You've got to commune with people.
10:35 Speaker 03 I know, do I have to?
10:37 Speaker 02 Yeah, they, you're not gonna.
10:38 Jessie Ware? You know what I think? I think you make a really big effort at the beginning and then you can pull back.
10:43 Speaker 03 Do you know there's been no WhatsApp group so far?
10:45 Jessie Ware? What?
10:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:47 Jessie Ware? Your wife is on them, you're just happy.
10:48 Speaker 02 No, you've probably been excluded because they know you're not keen and you won't get invited to the cheese and wine parties.
10:54 Speaker 03 Fine with that.
10:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, and you won't be manning the bar as Jesse did, yeah.
10:59 Speaker 03 Did you man the bar?
11:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, and got drunk.
11:01 Jessie Ware? Joe Brown told me to get involved and then people. No, no, I'm not, but she was on the podcast years ago.
11:08 Speaker 03 Oh.
11:09 Jessie Ware? And she just said, get involved and then people will be less interested in you.
11:12 Speaker 03 I got involved at the last school, I did the cake stall in summer.
11:15 Speaker 02 Did you?
11:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, because the year before I did Coconut Shine, it was a fucking nightmare. Sorry to swear.
11:20 Speaker 02 It would be.
11:21 Speaker 03 It was awful.
11:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:22 Speaker 03 It was blazing sun.
11:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:24 Speaker 03 There was kids lying that they'd paid to do the Coconut Shine when they hadn't. You're basically having to referee children.
11:31 Speaker 02 And talk about their moral standing when they're lying.
11:35 Speaker 03 Well, right, so you've got a bucket of coins next, like tokens. And then when you turn to the Coconut Shine, they're like, I've already put mine in. You're like, what can you do?
11:43 Speaker 02 Oh, my god, you could.
11:45 Speaker 03 Well, you could, but what if they have? What if they have?
11:50 Speaker 02 But didn't your daughter point out, oh, he's a liar. Don't trust him, dad.
11:54 Speaker 03 Well, she was nowhere near the coconut. She just wanted to be near me, does she?
11:57 Speaker 02 I want to know, you were a sports writer first.
12:02 Speaker 03 Ish.
12:02 Speaker 02 Ish. Because I never saw your byline in The Guardian.
12:06 Speaker 03 No.
12:06 Speaker 02 To be perfectly hon- honest.
12:09 Speaker 03 I never made it into print.
12:11 Speaker 02 Oh, you never made it into print. What does that? So where did you make it?
12:15 Speaker 03 The website.
12:16 Speaker 02 Oh, you did The Guardian online?
12:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, so I was there when they combined them.
12:21 Speaker 02 And what was your primary sport?
12:23 Speaker 03 Well, I got that.
12:26 Speaker 02 From Manchester, having done linguistics.
12:28 Speaker 03 There we go, someone's, someone's done our research. Here we go, I'm very excited about this.
12:33 Jessie Ware? God, I don't know. Well.
12:34 Speaker 03 Well, that looks lovely. That looks great.
12:36 Jessie Ware? It's definitely vegetarian.
12:38 Speaker 03 That's great.
12:38 Jessie Ware? And it's seasonal.
12:40 Speaker 03 Seasonal, perfect. They're dill.
12:42 Jessie Ware? And then we've also got, to, to remind you of East London, an Anna Jones wedge salad.
12:48 Speaker 03 I thought you said Alid Jones.
12:51 Jessie Ware? Okay, yeah, is it from East London?
12:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's from Wales, darling.
12:55 Speaker 03 Anna Jones, yeah, I remember her well. Her daughter or son went to my, uh, the same nursery as.
13:01 Jessie Ware? Oh, really?
13:02 Speaker 03 Yes.
13:02 Jessie Ware? And then, yeah, and then we've just got some bread, so it's gonna be like a bit kind of like. Yeah, is this all right? Okay.
13:08 Speaker 03 This is great.
13:09 Jessie Ware? Then we've got crumble for.
13:10 Speaker 03 Oh.
13:11 Jessie Ware? Okay, great.
13:11 Speaker 03 Seasonal.
13:12 Speaker 02 So which particular sport were you?
13:15 Speaker 03 Not really. I like football and I thought I liked cricket.
13:18 Speaker 02 So you did cover any sport?
13:21 Speaker 03 Well, I got there. I kind of stumbled into the job.
13:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
13:25 Speaker 03 I wasn't intending to do it.
13:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
13:28 Speaker 03 Really. I was just stumbling around trying to find a career.
13:31 Jessie Ware? Help yourself.
13:32 Speaker 02 And you know it had been called the Manchester Guardian?
13:34 Speaker 03 Of course it did, but it had moved to London. Such a shame. And then, um. I got a job before that on children's magazines.
13:42 Speaker 02 Oh, wow. Which ones?
13:44 Speaker 03 Dora the Explorer.
13:45 Speaker 02 Dora the Explorer.
13:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. So I moved to London. I wanted a job and I wanted to be a writer of some sort. And that job came up as like an editorial assistant on those magazines and.
14:01 Speaker 02 Who published them?
14:02 Speaker 03 John Brown Publishing.
14:04 Speaker 02 Okay, and they did all the children's magazines?
14:06 Speaker 03 So they did Mr. Bean. I did a bit of work on Mr. Bean, a bit of work on Angelina Ballerina.
14:10 Speaker 02 Oh, Angelina Ballerina, Jesse.
14:16 Speaker 03 It's impressive, isn't it?
14:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:18 Speaker 03 That is lovely. That is so nice.
14:20 Speaker 02 Delicious.
14:21 Speaker 03 Worth the journey.
14:22 Speaker 02 So do you kind of tell jokes at dinner parties?
14:26 Speaker 03 No, we don't go to dinner parties. This is it for me. No, we don't. We've got text groups. It's heavily WhatsApp based friendship.
14:35 Speaker 02 Do you do you tell new jokes and test out jokes and things?
14:39 Speaker 03 No, you never try material.
14:41 Speaker 02 Okay.
14:42 Jessie Ware? Right, semi?
14:44 Speaker 03 No. Would you?
14:47 Jessie Ware? Is it like, oh, is it just a really like depressing WhatsApp group?
14:50 Speaker 03 No, it's not. No, no, but you'd like. Do you wanna know what most things that are going around? And I'd be interested to whether musicians have the same.
14:58 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
14:59 Speaker 03 Ninety percent.
15:00 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
15:01 Speaker 03 Of stuff on comedians WhatsApp groups.
15:03 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
15:04 Speaker 03 Is screen grabs.
15:06 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
15:06 Speaker 03 Social media of other comedians that you don't respect.
15:11 Jessie Ware? Oh, that's so shit. You're shit talking about other people.
15:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:15 Jessie Ware? And liking the demise of certain.
15:17 Speaker 03 No, not the demise, just like.
15:18 Jessie Ware? That was shit.
15:19 Speaker 03 No, not like, so like, not their TV, no, not, it's like people who are putting bad comedy on Instagram. Look at this.
15:29 Jessie Ware? Oh, you're like, you're like, kind of, you're like the pitchfork. You're like a pitchfork.
15:35 Speaker 03 No, no, we're not. We're just, I, come on, tell me that you're not, it's just, it's just bitching. It's just bitching. It's the same as every office.
15:42 Jessie Ware? Actually, you're not bitching. So, Josh, just start thinking about what your last supper would be.
15:48 Speaker 03 Yep, fine.
15:48 Jessie Ware? But just wanna paint a picture of your childhood and food memories. You grew up in Devon.
15:56 Speaker 03 Dartmoor, yeah.
15:58 Jessie Ware? Who was around the dinner table and what's a really memorable dish?
16:01 Speaker 03 So me and my mum and my dad.
16:04 Jessie Ware? Mm.
16:05 Speaker 03 But then my gran, my mum's mum, lived in the other half of the house.
16:11 Jessie Ware? Oh, nice.
16:12 Speaker 02 You see, Jessie?
16:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:13 Jessie Ware? Oh, no.
16:14 Speaker 03 I looked that way, I looked that way when I said it.
16:17 Jessie Ware? I've offered you the basement, you don't want it.
16:19 Speaker 02 Going to a basement, I'm going in a penthouse.
16:23 Speaker 03 So we moved to Devon when I was three and a half, and my gran had a house in Ealing, West London.
16:33 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
16:33 Speaker 03 And she sold that to move down with us. That kind of paid for us to move down there, and then she got half the house and we got half the house.
16:40 Jessie Ware? Yeah. So granny lived on the other wing, on the other side.
16:45 Speaker 03 Other side, other half.
16:46 Jessie Ware? And, and was she a good cook?
16:49 Speaker 03 So, no, she would, no.
16:53 Jessie Ware? Oh.
16:54 Speaker 03 She, she was a retired actress or actor.
16:57 Jessie Ware? She sounds bad.
16:58 Speaker 03 Yeah, she was, she was incredible. She was kind of obsessed with, still obsessed with her figure and stuff, so she'd eat lean cuisine, ready meals.
17:06 Speaker 02 Oh, my god.
17:10 Speaker 03 Which I don't know if you can still get them, but they were like.
17:13 Jessie Ware? I haven't heard that for a very long time.
17:14 Speaker 03 Yeah, I know, I know.
17:15 Speaker 02 Lean cuisine.
17:16 Speaker 03 Have you ever had a lean cuisine?
17:17 Speaker 02 No.
17:18 Jessie Ware? But you would, like, you did every diet, though.
17:21 Speaker 02 I've done every diet.
17:22 Jessie Ware? But not lean cuisine.
17:23 Speaker 03 You didn't do lean cuisine. I think they were just bad, low calorie ready meals.
17:27 Speaker 02 But they were also very small.
17:29 Speaker 03 Yes, yeah. So she wouldn't go, we'd eat separately to her.
17:34 Jessie Ware? Right.
17:35 Speaker 03 We wouldn't all sit down with four lean cuisines.
17:37 Jessie Ware? No.
17:37 Speaker 03 But my parents were vegetarian, they were, still are, old hippies. And so we were having like organics and whole foods before.
17:49 Jessie Ware? Right.
17:49 Speaker 03 It was fashionable.
17:51 Jessie Ware? Mm-hmm.
17:51 Speaker 03 Or, but at an age when, when you don't want to be that kid. Because also you're not like, this is the coming thing, guys, hold on, because you'll all be eating brown flour before you know it. You'll all be home breaking your, you know, brown bread or tofu. I was eating tofu way before.
18:10 Speaker 02 So Totnes must have been Zanna do for you.
18:13 Speaker 03 It was close to Totnes. So my dad's currently still, he runs a stall on Totnes Market.
18:17 Speaker 02 Does he? Selling?
18:19 Speaker 03 Antique tools.
18:21 Jessie Ware? Oh.
18:21 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
18:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
18:22 Jessie Ware? So you were growing up on lots of whole foods and beans, a bit like something like this, maybe?
18:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, so you'd be like. Tofu.
18:31 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
18:32 Speaker 03 Potatoes, greens, or dal.
18:36 Jessie Ware? Mm.
18:36 Speaker 02 Oh.
18:38 Speaker 03 Not fam?
18:39 Jessie Ware? I love it. Did your friends like the food?
18:42 Speaker 03 Hippy stew is one of the things.
18:43 Jessie Ware? Hippy stew?
18:44 Speaker 03 Hippy stew.
18:45 Jessie Ware? Is that another thing?
18:46 Speaker 03 No, that's that is what that is a thing.
18:48 Jessie Ware? That's not dal?
18:49 Speaker 03 No, it's not dal.
18:50 Jessie Ware? What's a hippie stew?
18:51 Speaker 03 That makes dal feel so exciting.
18:53 Jessie Ware? What's a hippie stew?
18:54 Speaker 03 It's just.
18:55 Jessie Ware? Like a ratatouille?
18:56 Speaker 03 No, it's just veg in a stew, really. It's just veg. It's just greeny, browny veg.
19:07 Jessie Ware? Okay. So there's no Findus crispy pancakes for you?
19:10 Speaker 03 No, I, do you know what? I don't think I've ever had a Findus crispy pancake. So that was what we were having for dinner.
19:16 Jessie Ware? If it was a party or birthday, a celebration, what was that?
19:19 Speaker 03 There wasn't a hard, yeah, there wasn't a hard like, so I was having sweets and chocolate and still stuff. It wasn't like a, you don't have that. But it was like a, this is what's dinner.
19:29 Jessie Ware? Did you have packed lunch?
19:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, I did have packed lunch.
19:32 Jessie Ware? What was your packed lunch then? Was it like just cheese sandwich?
19:34 Speaker 03 So it would be the, the sandwich would be, this was at primary school.
19:37 Jessie Ware? Mm hmm.
19:38 Speaker 03 Secondary school, I got a pound for lunch, which felt just incredible. So primary school, sandwich.
19:44 Jessie Ware? Mm hmm.
19:45 Speaker 03 Which was made with the bread my dad had baked. Thank you.
19:48 Jessie Ware? Oh my god, this is so wholesome and lovely.
19:49 Speaker 03 I know, but you don't want wholesome and lovely.
19:52 Jessie Ware? Were you resentful?
19:53 Speaker 03 I don't think I, no, I don't think I'd got the, you know, when you're a kid.
19:58 Jessie Ware? Mm.
19:58 Speaker 03 You don't understand what's different.
20:00 Jessie Ware? Mm hmm.
20:00 Speaker 03 Uh, till you get till about ten or something. So this was happening, you're eight, it just is. Do you know what I mean?
20:06 Jessie Ware? You weren't peeking in other people's lunchbox.
20:09 Speaker 03 I remember a family, the Tyleys.
20:12 Jessie Ware? Mm.
20:12 Speaker 03 And they were getting five pieces of chocolate, separate. And I just thought, you've got the best mum in the world.
20:20 Jessie Ware? The best mum.
20:21 Speaker 03 So they would get a club, a penguin, a five, four, three, two, one, a wagon wheel and a gold bar. And you'd be like, these, this is how to live.
20:31 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:32 Speaker 02 Wagon wheel and a gold bar.
20:34 Speaker 03 I know. Looking back, they must have been absolutely buzzing off their tits come second.
20:40 Speaker 02 But they're probably very alert.
20:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, exactly. The crash must have been unbelievable at four P M. But then the mum comes and picks them up, they're knackered.
20:47 Speaker 02 And they're happy, aren't they?
20:50 Jessie Ware? But you're a parent and you have your brilliant podcast, Parenting Hell, and you know what it's like when kids come over for dinner.
20:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:58 Jessie Ware? And everyone has different requirements and my kids have that too. And they're a pain in the arse.
21:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
21:04 Jessie Ware? When people used to come over to your house for play dates, was, would your mum like, switch it up a bit? Or were people pretty, like in Devon, everyone was kind of on the hippie stew?
21:15 Speaker 03 They wouldn't switch it up, but.
21:17 Jessie Ware? No one carried on coming over.
21:21 Speaker 03 I.
21:22 Speaker 02 There was no veggie nuggets. Oh, you could have had pizza, I suppose.
21:25 Speaker 03 We did have pizza, do you know, but it was the worst pizza. You know, the pizza, well, it felt amazing then. But you know the pizza you get at the, the back of the supermarket that's made? No, no, no.
21:37 Jessie Ware? Oh, no, I love them. I love them. The Fiorina, I love it.
21:40 Speaker 03 I hate a Doctor Oka.
21:42 Jessie Ware? Yeah, right.
21:43 Speaker 03 But you might be sponsored by them.
21:46 Speaker 02 We're not.
21:47 Speaker 03 Costa de Molocas are on now. That's the best.
21:49 Speaker 02 Oh, custom, yeah, they're great, yeah.
21:52 Jessie Ware? Do you want some more, Josh?
21:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, I do, actually.
21:54 Speaker 02 Oh, good.
21:55 Jessie Ware? No, it's great.
21:58 Jessie Ware? Let's talk about, go on, sorry, Mum.
22:00 Speaker 02 I just wondered, is it fun on the last leg?
22:04 Speaker 03 Um, yes.
22:05 Speaker 02 Cause I would love, I loved you all on that.
22:08 Speaker 03 Do you?
22:08 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think it's one of my favourite Friday nights.
22:11 Speaker 03 Rank us.
22:12 Speaker 02 Obviously, you're number one.
22:13 Speaker 03 No.
22:14 Jessie Ware? Hang on, Mum, but you've always had a little penchant for Adam.
22:17 Speaker 03 Have you? Do you realise he had him here?
22:19 Speaker 02 I do. I think he's terribly funny.
22:21 Speaker 03 Do you?
22:21 Speaker 02 Yeah. And I think he's so self-effacing and so funny about his disability.
22:27 Speaker 03 Yes.
22:28 Speaker 02 That's, he just.
22:29 Speaker 03 I think.
22:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, he's just such fun.
22:31 Speaker 03 It's easy for me to forget, because we've been doing it for thirteen years.
22:35 Speaker 02 How many seasons now? Like thirty or something? That's crazy.
22:39 Speaker 03 It's mad, isn't it?
22:40 Jessie Ware? Were you like put together?
22:42 Speaker 03 So I tell you what happened.
22:43 Jessie Ware? Because it really works. You really work well together, like it's.
22:46 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:46 Speaker 03 It's total luck. It's like.
22:48 Speaker 02 Kismet.
22:49 Speaker 03 The Paralympics came to London.
22:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:51 Speaker 03 You know when you think about those things that if they'd been different, your whole life would be different? So even to the point where you're like, London wasn't meant to get those Olympics. That was meant to go to Paris.
23:01 Jessie Ware? Oh.
23:02 Speaker 03 And it was like this real upset. And then Channel Four suddenly had the Paralympics in London.
23:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:08 Speaker 03 So they were like, we'll do a, like a switch over show, or whatever they're called, on E4. And then it, they got Adam, because he's spoken about his disability to host it. And then they needed a comedian that knew about sport. And they asked me and they were like, do you want to do this show? It's about, it's a comedy about disabled sport. I was like, um.
23:34 Speaker 03 Can you imagine?
23:35 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:35 Speaker 03 And then they were like, no, no, it's really positive and, you know, and I, and they were basically like, look, it's ten nights, no one's gonna watch it. That's, that was the implication of the producer. It's on E4. No one's gonna watch it. You get to go to the Paralympics. Why not?
23:52 Speaker 02 Mm.
23:52 Speaker 03 And then Alex won a presenter search on, they did like a disabled talent. It's called like Million Pound Search for a Star or something. You can still watch his video on YouTube, his, his, um, audition that he's filmed himself. And then he got put on the sport as one of their sports presenters. And then he got, they thought he was funny and they were like, I will just put him on one episode of The Last Lag. And then it worked, so they kept him on it. And he thought he was being like punished. Because he was like, why have I been taken off the main bit? I've been put on this other show.
24:26 Speaker 02 So was he a bit like pissed off at the beginning?
24:28 Speaker 03 Well, I don't think he really knew what was, he'd never been in TV. Like, he was like, what? And then it just kind of worked.
24:35 Speaker 02 Mm.
24:35 Speaker 03 So then they turned it, what was a ten day job, has become like. First line of my obituary.
24:43 Jessie Ware? Let's talk about tour, not my cup of tea. You are doing the longest tour. I've, is this so you don't have to do the drop off or do any cake sales?
24:54 Speaker 03 Feel guilty about it.
24:55 Jessie Ware? No, I'm joking.
24:56 Speaker 03 No, no.
24:56 Jessie Ware? Now I feel guilty making you feel guilty.
24:59 Speaker 03 No, it's not. It's because I enjoy the difficult bits writing the show.
25:04 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
25:06 Speaker 03 And like, if you're like, if people come out and watch it.
25:08 Jessie Ware? Of course.
25:09 Speaker 03 That's like, you've just got to turn up and do it. It's fun.
25:12 Jessie Ware? So how many dates altogether?
25:14 Speaker 03 There's about eighty so far.
25:16 Jessie Ware? Eighty.
25:17 Speaker 03 But they're not all together. They're not, it's like three months and then a break.
25:21 Jessie Ware? Like Peter Kay.
25:23 Speaker 03 Well.
25:23 Jessie Ware? Like ten year, a ten year tour.
25:25 Speaker 03 I was playing those venues, I'll tell you that's great. Yeah, but a lot of comedians do that because you can go to, because we can just turn up at theatres.
25:34 Jessie Ware? I know.
25:35 Speaker 03 I know I keep like comparing it to, but like music is, it's an absolute nightmare. That's over. Do you know what I have to pay for? Someone to drive me. Support.
25:47 Jessie Ware? Sound.
25:47 Speaker 03 No, don't do those.
25:49 Jessie Ware? Oh, you tight bastard.
25:51 Speaker 03 They come with a theatre.
25:52 Jessie Ware? Oh.
25:53 Speaker 03 You don't need clever lighting, it's done.
25:55 Jessie Ware? Do you get your tour manager to spotlight you?
25:57 Speaker 03 No, there's no spotlight.
25:58 Jessie Ware? Do you have a backdrop?
26:00 Speaker 03 I've got a go bo. Do you know what a go bo is?
26:02 Jessie Ware? No.
26:03 Speaker 03 So a go bo is just a thing that fits onto a light and then it projects like a, like Batman.
26:11 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
26:13 Speaker 03 Like, you know, Batman into the, so it just looks like you've got a backdrop.
26:16 Jessie Ware? Oh, so it's like, Jessie, you've had something like that. Your name or we had table manners projected.
26:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:24 Jessie Ware? On the back.
26:25 Speaker 03 You've got yourself a go bo there, mate. So I've got that.
26:28 Jessie Ware? Do you set that up?
26:29 Speaker 03 No.
26:30 Jessie Ware? Right.
26:32 Jessie Ware? What's in your rider?
26:34 Speaker 03 Fizzy water.
26:35 Jessie Ware? Oh, yeah, just let me know when you're ready.
26:36 Speaker 03 No, that's good. And I I got a load of free on the train and. See, fizzy water and tea.
26:44 Speaker 02 Why is it called Not My Cup of Tea?
26:46 Speaker 03 Because the truth is, I wanted something that didn't mean anything. And I've wanted something that was kind of quaintly British. I like that kind of.
26:57 Jessie Ware? Yeah, it's a good saying that, isn't it?
26:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, and I like that kind of parochialism or that kind of Martin Parr or Alan Bennett or Blur or all that pulp. Or that kind of, that's my favoured aesthetic. So I was like, oh, I quite like that phrase because. It kind of connotes that kind of stuff. And I thought, I better be able to come up with loads of material about tea. And I haven't got any.
27:24 Speaker 02 What is the theme? Is there a theme going through it?
27:27 Speaker 03 No.
27:27 Speaker 02 So it's not like, um.
27:29 Speaker 03 There is zero.
27:30 Speaker 02 What's his name who talks about when he left his wife? Bishop?
27:34 Speaker 03 Tom Bishop?
27:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, when he.
27:35 Speaker 03 Did he leave his wife?
27:36 Speaker 02 No.
27:36 Speaker 03 What way to find out?
27:38 Speaker 02 No.
27:38 Jessie Ware? Hang on, rewind.
27:40 Speaker 02 But the whole thing started about when he's, they split up. And that's how he started comedy.
27:46 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
27:47 Speaker 02 Because he was miserable because they'd split up. And then he has a theme mostly about his family.
27:53 Speaker 03 Right, yeah, no, there's zero theme.
27:55 Speaker 02 No, no theme.
27:56 Speaker 03 No theme. You will learn nothing.
27:58 Speaker 02 Do you talk about your family?
28:00 Speaker 03 A bit.
28:00 Jessie Ware? Do you still get a little kind of breaking news in there or like?
28:04 Speaker 03 Zero.
28:04 Jessie Ware? Political? No.
28:05 Speaker 03 No politics.
28:06 Speaker 02 No politic. Parenting?
28:08 Speaker 03 There's a bit about parenting.
28:10 Speaker 02 I mean, that I would have thought that's why people are coming to see you.
28:13 Jessie Ware? Give me something, Josh. Give me something. There's no tea, there's no.
28:17 Speaker 02 There doesn't sound as much going on.
28:19 Jessie Ware? What the fuck do you talk about for an hour? Nah.
28:22 Speaker 03 Hour twenty.
28:26 Speaker 03 Go on, five minutes late, it's fine.
28:30 Speaker 03 Do you do that trick? We go up at ten past and it'll feel like it's added on to the...
28:34 Speaker 02 What's there an interval?
28:35 Speaker 03 There's an interval. Yeah, you can look forward to that.
28:37 Speaker 02 Well, I think don't the venues make you have an interval? So they...
28:41 Speaker 03 Well, I've never pushed back on it, so I don't know, but I think they probably do.
28:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, they do, I think.
28:45 Speaker 03 Yeah. But I like an interval. But no, it's just straight down the line. As much, as many observational jokes as possible about my life in an hour and a half. So you'll laugh as much as humanly possible when watching me without learning about politics or deep meaning or...
29:06 Speaker 02 That sounds great. Do you involve the audience?
29:09 Speaker 03 Uh, I'll talk to the audience a bit at the top.
29:11 Speaker 02 Okay.
29:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, I will.
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29:56 Jessie Ware? So before we have some crumble.
29:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:59 Jessie Ware? What would be on your last supper?
30:02 Speaker 03 So...
30:02 Jessie Ware? Starter.
30:03 Speaker 03 Starter, I would have... It's quite good, isn't it? Because you don't need to worry about getting really tired.
30:10 Jessie Ware? No, we don't need to worry about...
30:12 Speaker 03 You don't really need to worry about the health effects.
30:13 Jessie Ware? No.
30:15 Speaker 02 Gosh.
30:16 Jessie Ware? Do what you want, Josh.
30:17 Speaker 03 Do what you want.
30:17 Speaker 02 Very serious.
30:19 Speaker 03 I am very serious. No.
30:22 Speaker 03 Um, my starter, I would have burrata.
30:27 Jessie Ware? Starter burrata.
30:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, it wasn't.
30:28 Jessie Ware? You're a poet and you don't know it.
30:30 Speaker 02 Starter burrata. What would you put it with?
30:33 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
30:34 Speaker 03 Do you know what? I think everything that comes with the burrata is distracting for the burrata.
30:39 Jessie Ware? She's gonna have like.
30:40 Speaker 03 Just a ball of burrata. Cause, cause in life, that's frowned upon, but now I'm popping my clubs.
30:47 Jessie Ware? Okay.
30:49 Speaker 02 But not bread or anything. So I don't like burrata.
30:53 Speaker 03 Do you not?
30:53 Speaker 02 Kind of oozy and yeah, it's like a great big pimple and you put your finger in them.
30:59 Speaker 03 Oozy pimple.
31:00 Speaker 02 You do?
31:00 Speaker 03 I love it.
31:01 Jessie Ware? Okay, I, this is actually probably the wrong time to say this.
31:05 Speaker 03 You've got an oozy pimple.
31:06 Jessie Ware? No, I don't. I've had a few in the summer, but something that really relaxes me on TikTok is watching people get their lumps popped.
31:16 Speaker 03 I really.
31:17 Jessie Ware? Oh my god.
31:18 Speaker 03 What are you typing in?
31:19 Jessie Ware? I don't know. It's obviously found me.
31:21 Speaker 03 Oh, it's found you.
31:21 Jessie Ware? I'm not even following them, but I'm like, ah.
31:24 Speaker 02 You mean it comes across as a reel on your Instagram?
31:27 Jessie Ware? These blackheads out.
31:28 Speaker 02 Oh my god, Jessica.
31:29 Jessie Ware? Oh my god.
31:31 Speaker 02 It's amazing, Josh.
31:33 Speaker 03 Is that ADM? What's that thing called?
31:35 Jessie Ware? ASMR.
31:35 Speaker 03 ASMR.
31:36 Jessie Ware? I'm not really listening to the sound. You like the visual.
31:39 Speaker 02 The visual is stunning.
31:40 Jessie Ware? Oh my god.
31:41 Speaker 03 Anyways, like some kind of weird.
31:43 Jessie Ware? Is that weird?
31:44 Speaker 02 She's weird. She's kinky.
31:45 Jessie Ware? Is it a kink?
31:46 Speaker 03 I don't know if it's a kink.
31:47 Jessie Ware? I'm gonna show it to you in a bit and just see if it gets you going.
31:50 Speaker 03 It won't get me going.
31:51 Jessie Ware? It won't?
31:51 Speaker 02 Won't get me going.
31:52 Jessie Ware? Satisfying.
31:53 Speaker 02 Make me feel sick.
31:54 Speaker 03 And are they commentating?
31:56 Jessie Ware? No, they're very in the zone. Like it's some Thai beauty seller. I don't know how they found me.
32:02 Speaker 03 Same place every time.
32:03 Jessie Ware? Yeah, they found me. I still am not following them because I feel like that's like it being a bit too like committing.
32:08 Speaker 03 But they know.
32:09 Jessie Ware? They know.
32:09 Speaker 03 China's government with their TikTok stats, they know where you're in.
32:13 Jessie Ware? They know, but if I carry on watching till the bitter end.
32:15 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:16 Jessie Ware? Anyway, so you'd have a burrata.
32:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:19 Jessie Ware? Delicious.
32:20 Speaker 03 Pizza.
32:21 Jessie Ware? Pizza.
32:21 Speaker 03 I love pizza.
32:22 Jessie Ware? Where's your favourite pizza from?
32:26 Speaker 02 No, I was just very interested.
32:27 Speaker 03 Oh, okay.
32:29 Speaker 02 Do you go to Italy on holiday?
32:30 Speaker 03 Uh, we got married in Italy.
32:32 Speaker 02 Oh, I know.
32:33 Speaker 03 We got married in Puglia.
32:33 Speaker 02 Do you have pizza?
32:34 Speaker 03 No, Puglia's not really a pizza place.
32:37 Jessie Ware? Isn't it?
32:37 Speaker 02 Oh.
32:38 Speaker 03 No.
32:38 Jessie Ware? Was it gorgeous?
32:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, it was amazing.
32:40 Jessie Ware? Why did you decide on Puglia? Because you love Italian food or you go there a lot?
32:43 Speaker 03 No, because we've been there a bit. We felt like we didn't want to get married in London, although we did get officially married in London, but we felt like
32:55 Speaker 03 I don't want to put my foot in here in case this is where either of you had your wedding, but you know when you go to a wedding and you think, I don't think these people are connected with this place at all?
33:04 Speaker 02 Yeah.
33:05 Speaker 03 They've just chosen a kind of place.
33:07 Speaker 02 Destination wedding.
33:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I thought, so we were like, let's just do something that feels like it's got an identity and it's like that, rather than come to this manor house in Hertfordshire where we've never been.
33:19 Jessie Ware? I hear you.
33:20 Speaker 03 Does that make sense?
33:21 Jessie Ware? Yeah, I got married in Greece.
33:22 Speaker 03 You got married in Greece?
33:23 Jessie Ware? Yeah, where I've been going since I was little, so don't worry, there was no manor house.
33:26 Speaker 03 Where did you get married?
33:28 Speaker 02 Manchester.
33:29 Speaker 03 Oh.
33:31 Speaker 02 Well, I did come from there.
33:32 Speaker 03 Did you?
33:33 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's where I got married there.
33:34 Speaker 03 Which bit?
33:36 Speaker 02 Really weirdly, it was Jackson's Row, which was opposite our synagogue.
33:42 Jessie Ware? Oh.
33:43 Speaker 02 But.
33:44 Jessie Ware? But you didn't get married in the synagogue?
33:45 Speaker 02 In the synagogue, no, I got married in the register office. And then we had the reception in my sister's back garden.
33:51 Speaker 03 Oh.
33:52 Jessie Ware? So we've got barata and pizza. Is there any pizza place that you want to give a shout out to?
33:56 Speaker 03 Well, no, I suppose I shouldn't give a shout out to a major one.
34:01 Speaker 02 Well, you can do.
34:02 Jessie Ware? Why? Because you do small business shouts out to some parenting help?
34:05 Speaker 03 No, just because I haven't played, but no, um, so I, uh, Franco Mancor was, which is now everywhere.
34:11 Jessie Ware? It's not so good anymore though, is it?
34:13 Speaker 03 No, but when I, this sounds, I don't want to be like I saw. Cold play in front of ten people, but when I used to live in Brixton.
34:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, Franka Manka.
34:22 Speaker 03 On the market.
34:23 Speaker 02 Yeah, on the market.
34:24 Speaker 03 It was so good.
34:25 Jessie Ware? It was amazing.
34:26 Speaker 02 Do you think that's even associated with the main thing now?
34:29 Speaker 03 Well, I don't know. Does it still exist?
34:31 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's still there, Franka Manka, but I remember going there first and I couldn't believe the crust.
34:37 Speaker 03 It was so good.
34:37 Speaker 02 It was light and it was just, it bubbled up, didn't it?
34:41 Speaker 03 Incredible.
34:42 Speaker 02 And then I can't.
34:43 Jessie Ware? Their salad dressing was great too, I remember.
34:44 Speaker 03 Their salad dressing.
34:45 Speaker 02 But you sat in the market, yeah.
34:47 Speaker 03 And they refused to serve tea or coffee with milk afterwards because they thought it affected your digestion.
34:55 Speaker 02 Oh.
34:56 Speaker 03 Well, I like it when they're like that difficult, do you know what I mean?
34:59 Speaker 02 They're like proper Italians, yeah. But I don't even know if it's the same thing.
35:05 Speaker 03 So I don't know. I'd love to know the business inside out if someone could write in, but I hope they've made loads of money.
35:11 Speaker 02 So what's your toppings, darling?
35:13 Speaker 03 Uh, I'd go for chillies.
35:17 Speaker 02 You're kidding.
35:17 Speaker 03 I'm not.
35:18 Speaker 02 Poor bugger can't have pepperoni, can he?
35:21 Speaker 03 They can't. Poor bugger can't.
35:23 Speaker 02 Poor bugger.
35:24 Jessie Ware? Stop mum. Mum just lost it out, five thousand people.
35:28 Speaker 02 Do you get, if you're in Pizza Express, do you like the chili shit? Do you remember these?
35:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, and I like chili oil.
35:34 Jessie Ware? Mmm.
35:36 Speaker 03 I have, I love hot.
35:40 Speaker 02 You like hot sauce?
35:41 Speaker 03 I like everything hot.
35:42 Speaker 02 Which is your best hot sauce?
35:43 Speaker 03 I'm not, I prefer a really spicy curry or chillies on a pizza to a hot sauce.
35:48 Speaker 02 Okay.
35:49 Speaker 03 But I love heat, which it took me years to find out because I presumed that I wouldn't because of what I'm like generally. Because I'm not.
36:00 Speaker 02 You don't look like a hot sort of person.
36:02 Speaker 03 They don't look like a hot sauce.
36:03 Speaker 02 I wonder if it's the blonde hair?
36:05 Speaker 03 I think it's because I'm not an elf. You expect it to be a kind of rugby bloke, don't you?
36:11 Speaker 02 No.
36:12 Speaker 03 Do you not?
36:12 Speaker 02 No. I think cowboy.
36:15 Speaker 03 Cowboy?
36:16 Jessie Ware? Wow.
36:17 Speaker 03 Cowboy with the chili oil.
36:18 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:19 Jessie Ware? Really?
36:20 Speaker 02 Yeah, they like hot things, don't they?
36:22 Jessie Ware? How many cowboys have you fucking spoken to?
36:24 Speaker 02 Branding people and things like that, I don't.
36:28 Speaker 03 Like the Marlborough man?
36:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly that.
36:31 Jessie Ware? It was a cigarette, it wasn't even the amount.
36:33 Speaker 02 I just imagine you're more kind of.
36:35 Speaker 03 Hot cigarette though, isn't it?
36:35 Speaker 02 Rugged, yeah rugged, I suppose.
36:37 Jessie Ware? Okay, so you like hot, a hot pizza, are you gonna have any sides with that?
36:41 Speaker 03 No, waste of time.
36:42 Jessie Ware? Okay, I saw you with that salad, I actually had to shove it on your plate.
36:46 Speaker 03 No, no, I did enjoy the.
36:47 Jessie Ware? You did enjoy, but I did have to tell you.
36:48 Speaker 03 No, I was gonna say I did enjoy the frankamanka salad.
36:50 Jessie Ware? I did too.
36:51 Speaker 02 How many pizzas could you eat, do you think?
36:54 Speaker 03 Great question.
36:55 Speaker 02 Do you think you'd have more than one?
36:56 Speaker 03 I suppose, yeah, I could, I always get to the end and think I could go again.
37:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:01 Speaker 03 But, have you ever been to Pizza Hut buffet? I can't imagine you have.
37:04 Jessie Ware? Not for a long time.
37:06 Speaker 02 A long time ago I used to go.
37:07 Jessie Ware? Stretton, Stretton High Road.
37:08 Speaker 02 Used to be the highlight of your brother's life.
37:11 Jessie Ware? Yeah, when they had.
37:12 Speaker 02 The pizza hut and the ice cream as much as you could eat with sprinkles.
37:16 Speaker 03 But you could never eat as much you actually thought you were gonna eat.
37:19 Speaker 02 That's why.
37:19 Jessie Ware? That was very doughy though.
37:21 Speaker 03 It was very doughy, probably still is.
37:23 Jessie Ware? Yeah. Okay, so we're doing that, and then drink of choice?
37:26 Speaker 03 Drink of choice, tea.
37:28 Jessie Ware? A tea, okay, how do you take your tea?
37:30 Speaker 03 Strong with milky.
37:32 Jessie Ware? Okay.
37:32 Speaker 03 Does that make sense?
37:33 Jessie Ware? So like.
37:33 Speaker 02 Do you have a preferred tea, Yorkshire?
37:35 Speaker 03 Just, it has to be bag in the mug.
37:40 Speaker 02 A long time.
37:41 Speaker 03 I don't want a pot, I hate a pot.
37:43 Speaker 02 Do you leave the bag in while you're drinking the tea? Some people do. Oh, to give you a bit of a boost.
37:49 Speaker 03 But no, I wouldn't do that, I think that's a bit extreme. If I'm driving.
37:52 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:53 Speaker 03 I'll do that, cause I think.
37:56 Speaker 03 That's, if you go to a service station, I'll think, I'll leave the bag in because I haven't got time to.
38:01 Speaker 02 Okay.
38:02 Jessie Ware? Are you only a tea drinker?
38:04 Speaker 03 Coffee sends me mental.
38:06 Jessie Ware? Does it?
38:06 Speaker 02 Oh, what do you do?
38:08 Speaker 03 I get really, really high.
38:10 Speaker 02 Oh.
38:10 Speaker 03 And then really, really low.
38:12 Speaker 02 Oh.
38:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, and I used to.
38:15 Speaker 02 When did you discover that?
38:16 Speaker 03 At uni, I was drinking six cups a day.
38:20 Speaker 02 Okay.
38:21 Speaker 03 And it was really having an effect on me.
38:24 Speaker 02 You couldn't live in Greece, darling.
38:26 Speaker 03 Couldn't live in Greece, you're right, not just for those reasons.
38:28 Speaker 02 They drink it all day.
38:30 Speaker 03 Well, I go to Greece on holiday and when you order tea by the pool, they look at you like you're scum.
38:36 Speaker 02 A bit weird, yeah.
38:37 Speaker 03 And they're right.
38:38 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:38 Speaker 03 So I can only drink tea.
38:41 Jessie Ware? So pudding, have you got a sweet tooth?
38:44 Speaker 03 Cheesecake.
38:45 Speaker 02 What, the Pizza Express cheesecake? Remember that one?
38:49 Speaker 03 I don't remember that one.
38:50 Speaker 02 It was so good.
38:51 Speaker 03 What was on that?
38:51 Speaker 02 Creamy.
38:53 Speaker 03 Oh, just a classic.
38:54 Speaker 02 Yeah, classic.
38:54 Speaker 03 A classic, yeah. I, any cheesecake, really.
38:57 Speaker 02 Really?
38:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:58 Speaker 02 Topping, cherry?
39:00 Speaker 03 No, not the one where they've got the sharp, you know, like cherry or sh- sharp fruit. I don't really want.
39:09 Jessie Ware? Shit, and I'm about to give you a fucking crumble.
39:11 Speaker 03 No, I like a crumble.
39:12 Jessie Ware? Are you sure?
39:12 Speaker 03 Have you got anything on it?
39:14 Jessie Ware? I've got cream and ice cream.
39:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, let's do it.
39:15 Jessie Ware? Okay, fine. Is that okay?
39:18 Speaker 03 That's great. I always still enjoy the cheesecake.
39:21 Jessie Ware? It's gonna be a bit sharp.
39:22 Speaker 03 I know, I don't mind sharp. I'm just saying, if, if I'm about to die, I'll forego the sharp fruit.
39:27 Jessie Ware? Okay, fair enough.
39:29 Speaker 03 Having a nice afternoon with yous.
39:30 Jessie Ware? Okay, great.
39:31 Speaker 03 Use with you guys.
39:32 Jessie Ware? I'm gonna get the crumble.
39:33 Speaker 02 Yeah. You support Plymouth Argyle?
39:35 Speaker 03 How do you retain this stuff? Have you got a, you're bored over there?
39:38 Speaker 02 No, I can remember silly things.
39:41 Speaker 03 Okay, yeah.
39:41 Speaker 02 Have you always supported them since you were little?
39:44 Speaker 03 Yes.
39:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:45 Speaker 03 So since I was eight?
39:47 Speaker 02 Eight. And which division are you in?
39:49 Speaker 03 We're in League One.
39:51 Speaker 02 That's all right.
39:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, we're quite good.
39:52 Speaker 02 I've got Salford City in that now.
39:54 Speaker 03 Quite possibly.
39:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, because I think they've come up from it, yeah.
39:58 Speaker 03 Do you like Salford City? Is that where you're from?
40:00 Speaker 02 Yeah. I kind of watched them because all the, the boys from Man U bought it, didn't they?
40:06 Speaker 03 Are you a Man U fan?
40:06 Speaker 02 Yeah, we are. Sadly.
40:08 Speaker 03 It's Jessie.
40:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
40:11 Speaker 03 And the sons? Your grandchildren?
40:13 Speaker 02 No, they're Tottenham because their dad's Tottenham. Yeah. They love Tottenham.
40:18 Jessie Ware? I was worried there wasn't going to be enough crumble, but now I think I've overdone it.
40:23 Speaker 02 Overdone the crumble.
40:24 Jessie Ware? It's never a problem, is it, really?
40:25 Speaker 03 No, never.
40:26 Jessie Ware? Do you want a bit of ice cream and cream?
40:28 Speaker 03 Oh, go on then, yes.
40:29 Speaker 02 Jessie's most comforting dish is ice cream with cream on.
40:34 Speaker 03 Oh, do you ever go to, uh, the Lizard in Cornwall?
40:38 Speaker 02 No.
40:39 Speaker 03 They've got a ice cream shop called Gelbutts and they only do vanilla and it's, and the
40:46 Speaker 02 The best vanilla you've ever tasted.
40:47 Speaker 03 You can have vanilla or you can have vanilla with a scoop of clotted cream on top.
40:52 Jessie Ware? Oh, wow. That is my heaven.
40:53 Speaker 03 Yeah. It's incredible. I would highly recommend it.
40:57 Speaker 02 Yeah. You must eat a lot of clotted cream where you're from. Is it kind of your staple every morning on your porridge?
41:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, I get it. It's basically, it's like water coming out the taps. I, I try to avoid it. Not, not, no, I had a cream tea on Friday.
41:14 Speaker 02 Did you?
41:15 Speaker 03 But it was my mum's birthday.
41:17 Speaker 02 God, I've, I've, I've given you lots. So don't worry if you can't eat it.
41:21 Speaker 03 I'm not gonna have to eat again today.
41:23 Speaker 02 This week, thank you.
41:25 Jessie Ware? So, oh, yes, you're having a lot.
41:27 Speaker 02 He has cottage cream all the time, Jessie.
41:29 Jessie Ware? I love cottage cream.
41:30 Speaker 03 It's so good.
41:31 Jessie Ware? But I do think I need a lactaid after it.
41:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:35 Jessie Ware? Now, listen, I have to apologize. My husband is really good at crumbles. And we've got all these beautiful fruit trees in the garden that we were trying to like, and it's all fruit, so it's from our garden.
41:44 Speaker 03 What a nice garden, eh?
41:45 Jessie Ware? Thanks, mate.
41:47 Speaker 03 For London, that is a great garden.
41:49 Jessie Ware? Anyway, loads and loads of fruit trees. My husband had made like the, he's really good. So I was like, great. He left skin on some of the apple and I'm just apologizing.
42:00 Speaker 03 It's all right. It's lovely. It is lovely.
42:02 Jessie Ware? And then there's some plums in there too. I acknowledge that's not what you do with a crumble.
42:06 Speaker 03 That's great.
42:08 Jessie Ware? But like, just.
42:09 Speaker 03 But you're like my, my mother-in-law.
42:11 Jessie Ware? Why?
42:12 Speaker 03 Can't cook for us without apologizing for one thing that's wrong with every meal.
42:16 Jessie Ware? And then ruins it for everyone.
42:17 Speaker 03 And you're like, can we just enjoy this without you pointing out your own failings?
42:21 Jessie Ware? If we were coming over to yours, what would be always in your fridge that we would be like, okay?
42:28 Speaker 03 Milk.
42:30 Jessie Ware? Must be a bit more imaginative than that, fucking hell.
42:32 Speaker 03 Well, it's difficult. I try and keep a, a tight fridge.
42:35 Jessie Ware? Really? That's what my husband wants. I don't even want you to look in my fridge.
42:39 Speaker 03 Cause I think the worst job in the house is getting rid of food. It feels so, I feel such deep guilt.
42:49 Jessie Ware? You are like my husband.
42:50 Speaker 03 Yeah, I, so I, I like to keep a tight, we were talking about football, manages to keep a small squad because they don't want the players on the outside missing out. I'd rather keep a tight.
43:02 Jessie Ware? And go to the shops five times in the day.
43:04 Speaker 02 Have you got shops near you?
43:06 Speaker 03 Yes, so about ten minute walk. So I'd rather do lots of small shops.
43:11 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
43:12 Speaker 03 Cause also I work eve-, so if I'm working evenings.
43:16 Jessie Ware? Hmm.
43:17 Speaker 03 I can't do that thing where you're like, on Monday, we're gonna have a biryani, on Tuesday, we're gonna have pasta, on Wednesday, you're gonna have. So I'm existing moment to moment fridge wise.
43:27 Jessie Ware? My gorgeous neighbour, who I adore, she knows exactly what they're eating for the whole week. And I'm kind of envious of her because I think it's so amazing. But we are not those people.
43:39 Speaker 03 But do you not go, I don't wanna eat that today. I, on Sunday, I thought I'd want fish pie. But now it's Thursday, I don't want fish pie, but there's a fish. And pie. Whatever that's made out of, pastry. And who's cleaning out the kit, the fridge?
43:57 Jessie Ware? Not me.
44:00 Jessie Ware? To be honest, well, I'm certainly not. I create, I imagine, I do it all.
44:05 Speaker 03 You're an artist.
44:05 Jessie Ware? I'm an artist.
44:06 Speaker 03 You're an art, you've got an artistic temperament.
44:08 Jessie Ware? Yeah. Okay, so milk, that's, I, I think that's really interesting.
44:12 Speaker 03 I, do, do many people answer that they keep a tight fridge?
44:15 Jessie Ware? But I like it. It's inspiring.
44:17 Speaker 03 I don't want to waste stuff.
44:19 Jessie Ware? Great expression.
44:21 Speaker 03 But I some, I don't, I suppose it means I'm spending more time walking to the shops and back.
44:26 Jessie Ware? Get your steps in.
44:27 Speaker 03 I don't think I've done a big shop since. Since Gordon Brown was the Prime Minister.
44:33 Jessie Ware? Oh my god. But I do think you used to live in Hackney.
44:37 Speaker 03 That's not a reflection on the two thousand eight crash.
44:41 Jessie Ware? But you do, in Hackney, you did have a lot of shops right by, you had that Palm Two.
44:47 Speaker 03 No, that was Clapton, I'm, I'm Victoria Park.
44:50 Jessie Ware? Are you a Vicky pick? We had Lauriston Village then.
44:52 Speaker 03 Exactly.
44:52 Jessie Ware? Like you could just pop out.
44:54 Speaker 03 You could just pop out, you could go to Village Organic. We've got a big Waitrose.
44:59 Jessie Ware? Okay, fine. You're gonna be okay.
45:01 Speaker 03 So am I gonna go back to big shops? That's what all the talk on the streets about.
45:05 Jessie Ware? Big shops.
45:06 Speaker 03 Am I gonna, do you big shop?
45:08 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
45:09 Speaker 03 And do you do it online or do you do it?
45:11 Jessie Ware? Online, but my fridge would have enough to feed.
45:16 Speaker 02 Two dinner parties if I had to.
45:18 Speaker 03 And you're not worried about wastage?
45:20 Speaker 02 No.
45:20 Jessie Ware? She freezes it.
45:21 Speaker 02 I freeze a lot of stuff here, I cook and freeze.
45:23 Speaker 03 So my mother-in-law, who spends a lot of time at our house. And she, to be fair, and she is right, she's born in nineteen forty-five, so she's been created by post-war. Make, use everything, but she, our fridge, to tell you what is in it, is like. Two boiled potatoes in a bowl, or a tiny bit of pasta sauce in a bowl.
45:50 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
45:50 Speaker 03 Or she puts espressos, she has to have an espresso in the house at all times, otherwise she panics. So she'll go and buy an espresso and then that'll be in the fridge.
46:00 Jessie Ware? And she'll heat it up?
46:02 Speaker 03 No, she'll just drink it straight, she's.
46:04 Jessie Ware? From the fridge?
46:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, like an iced espresso, she just has to have caffeine available at all times.
46:11 Speaker 02 How many does she have a day?
46:13 Speaker 03 Not that many, it's more that thing of knowing it's there if she wants it.
46:16 Jessie Ware? But don't you have an espresso maker? Or like a coffee maker?
46:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, we do have a coffee maker.
46:21 Jessie Ware? But she just needs it.
46:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, she just needs it.
46:23 Jessie Ware? She sounds wild.
46:24 Speaker 03 Like, like a junkie would need to have a.
46:27 Speaker 02 So there's nothing in, so there's nothing there to eat, Lily. What are you going to do when your kids are teenagers?
46:34 Speaker 03 Jars of, you know, you've got, so there is staples, there's your olives, your capers.
46:39 Jessie Ware? Mm-hmm.
46:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, obviously, your jams, your butters.
46:43 Speaker 02 Oh, but your kids are.
46:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, lots of fruit, lots of berries.
46:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, but your kids are going to be the ones to say, there's nothing to eat in the fridge, Dad.
46:51 Speaker 03 They're, they're right.
46:52 Speaker 02 They will.
46:52 Jessie Ware? No.
46:53 Speaker 03 And do you know what I'll say to them? There's nothing, there's nothing to throw in the bin, I keep a tight fridge.
46:58 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
46:58 Speaker 02 I keep a tight fridge.
46:59 Speaker 03 I keep a tight fridge.
47:01 Jessie Ware? Before we let you go, Josh.
47:02 Speaker 02 I want to ask one thing.
47:03 Speaker 03 Go on.
47:04 Speaker 02 Karaoke song, Blur or Pulp?
47:07 Speaker 03 Pulp.
47:07 Speaker 02 Pulp.
47:08 Jessie Ware? Oh.
47:08 Speaker 03 How did you know that pulp would be?
47:10 Jessie Ware? Cause you mentioned you liked pulp.
47:12 Speaker 02 I thought you liked Blur.
47:13 Jessie Ware? He does, but he also said about pulp with that irreverent.
47:15 Speaker 02 So which song would it be?
47:16 Speaker 03 People more.
47:18 Speaker 02 Which song?
47:19 Speaker 03 It wouldn't be Common People, because I think that's too.
47:22 Speaker 02 Surprised, I have to say.
47:24 Speaker 03 Well, there you go.
47:25 Jessie Ware? Yeah. Year three thousand.
47:26 Speaker 02 Full of surprises.
47:27 Speaker 03 Disco two thousand.
47:29 Speaker 02 Sorry.
47:29 Speaker 03 Year three thousand's busted.
47:35 Speaker 02 Jessie, that is a big mistake.
47:40 Speaker 03 What go to school for, is that the one?
47:43 Jessie Ware? I don't know, that came out. Oh, don't worry.
47:47 Speaker 03 That's the one about how people always live underwater with gills, isn't it?
47:50 Jessie Ware? Let's all eat up in the, I do fucking know the song, Josh. I'm sorry. I said year three thousand, disco two thousand. Love Jarvis Cocker.
47:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
47:57 Jessie Ware? Love.
47:57 Speaker 03 He must have done this, hasn't he?
47:59 Jessie Ware? He hasn't, and now he never will.
48:00 Speaker 03 He'd be perfect for this.
48:01 Jessie Ware? Why?
48:03 Speaker 03 Well, because he's kind of.
48:04 Jessie Ware? Do you think?
48:05 Speaker 03 It's a bon vivant, isn't it?
48:06 Speaker 02 We did have, we've had Noel.
48:08 Speaker 03 Have you?
48:09 Jessie Ware? We believe we were the reason they got back together, actually.
48:11 Speaker 02 I asked him, I said, would you ever get back together? And he said, hell will freeze over.
48:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
48:17 Speaker 02 And I said, you talk so fondly about our kid. He said, because he is our kid. Because he's younger.
48:25 Jessie Ware? A nostalgic taste that can transport you somewhere, please, Josh.
48:28 Speaker 03 That's great. So it would be.
48:33 Speaker 03 It would be a Wham! bar. Have you ever had a Wham! bar?
48:36 Jessie Ware? What Wham! is? Is it that one that's got like?
48:38 Speaker 03 So it's, it's a pink bar and it had bits in it that were sour.
48:43 Jessie Ware? Yes.
48:44 Speaker 02 I don't remember that.
48:45 Jessie Ware? Delicious, delicious.
48:47 Speaker 03 So they, they were great. They were ten P.
48:50 Speaker 02 Was it like nougat?
48:51 Speaker 03 No, it was like.
48:52 Jessie Ware? Like a refresher.
48:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, like, what is that called?
48:55 Jessie Ware? But like more stringy and more see-through.
48:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
48:58 Speaker 02 Was it named after Wham? No, it wasn't named after George Michael, no.
49:02 Speaker 03 No, the sprinkles were so sour.
49:05 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
49:06 Speaker 03 So it would either be that, or I tell you the other one, which would just take me back to going to the sweet shop in the summer as a child, would be those five P ice pop, Mr. Frosties. And you'd bite.
49:19 Speaker 02 The blue one?
49:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, blue raspberry. And you'd bite the top and the sides would cut your mouth.
49:25 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
49:26 Speaker 03 And it's just that, I've not had one of them in what? Thirty-five years.
49:32 Speaker 02 Probably so many E colors it kills people.
49:34 Jessie Ware? You should have seen our school WhatsApp group about that when they offered them in the summer. It kicked the fuck off.
49:40 Speaker 03 Chris Van Tillican's not happy about that, I can tell you that.
49:42 Jessie Ware? But the kids were, the kids were thrilled.
49:46 Speaker 03 Chill out on the WhatsApp group, let people live a little.
49:50 Jessie Ware? Someone didn't ice pole pole to try and diffuse it. It was actually quite jokes.
49:56 Speaker 03 Was it like Brexit and it didn't solve everything and it was making people more angry?
50:00 Jessie Ware? Somebody wanted watermelon instead. Josh Whittaker, it's been such a pleasure to have you.
50:05 Speaker 03 I'm so sorry I was late.
50:07 Speaker 02 I wish you'd stay longer because you're so lovely.
50:10 Speaker 03 Well, thank you.
50:11 Jessie Ware? Thanks so much for coming on and I'm sorry it's been such a schlep, but it has been a joy and you're welcome back anytime.
50:16 Speaker 02 I think you look like a young Robert Redford.
50:20 Jessie Ware? Did you get that?
50:20 Speaker 03 The camera's still running?
50:22 Speaker 02 I think absolutely.
50:24 Speaker 03 Clip that up and put it on your socials.
50:25 Speaker 02 That's exactly who reminds me of.
50:27 Jessie Ware? A young Robert Redford.
50:28 Speaker 02 A young Robert Redford.
50:31 Speaker 02 What was his name? What was his name in that thing?
50:35 Jessie Ware? Hubble.
50:35 Speaker 02 Hubble.
50:36 Speaker 03 What's that?
50:37 Jessie Ware? The way we were, Barbra Streisand and Robert Redford. You need to watch it.
50:41 Speaker 02 The cowboy one.
50:43 Speaker 03 Cowboy one. But you're passing the Sundance Kid.
50:47 Jessie Ware? That's what I was thinking. A cowboy and Josh Whittaker, get out of here.
50:50 Speaker 03 Here's Stoller, Adam Hills and me.
51:07 Jessie Ware? Well, I love the cowboy that is Josh Whittaker.
51:10 Speaker 02 Oh, he's lovely, isn't he?
51:11 Jessie Ware? He's so lovely and funny and was such a good sport.
51:16 Speaker 02 Yeah.
51:17 Jessie Ware? And he could have been in a really bad mood.
51:19 Speaker 02 I would have been.
51:20 Jessie Ware? Yeah, I know.
51:22 Speaker 02 I would.
51:23 Jessie Ware? But thank you so much to Josh for coming on. I'm definitely gonna go to knock my cup of tea. I think he's doing Hackney Empire for two nights, but I mean, he's doing 80 dates, so you'll be able to get him somewhere.
51:33 Speaker 02 Well, he's certainly my cup of tea. I liked him a lot.
51:37 Jessie Ware? Yeah, he was great. It was really, really good fun. And thank you to all the gang today that kind of helped me think of something to do and went down to the bakery. Thank you, Jo.
51:48 Speaker 02 It was delicious.
51:49 Jessie Ware? We, problem solved. We showed that if we were in an escape room, we'd be able to get out potentially.
51:55 Speaker 02 Would we?
51:55 Jessie Ware? Not without a fight or two, but.
51:58 Speaker 02 That is going to be our Christmas.
51:59 Jessie Ware? That was a team bonding experience.
52:01 Speaker 02 Definitely Christmas after.
52:04 Jessie Ware? Anyway, we'll see you next week.
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