Maya Rudolph

We welcome Saturday Night Live and Bridesmaids icon Maya Rudolph on the podcast this week! Over a delish chicken schnitzel we talk all about Maya working with The Fonz, being part of a Wendy’s dynasty, stealing Molly’s wardrobe from the set of Loot, her love of London, her thoughts on Marmite and we’re even treated to Maya’s brilliant impression of Kate Moss! What an absolute delight it was to cook for you Maya, thank you for popping round to New Cross! Series 3 of Loot is available to stream now on Apple TV+. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:35Jessie Ware?

  Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm here in my house with my mum, Melanie. Hi mum.

• 0:40Speaker 02

  Hi.

• 0:41Jessie Ware?

  It's a bit of a miserable day. I'd call it swaddler weather. That may give you a hint of who we've got today.

• 0:48Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 0:49Jessie Ware?

  Yes, it's an SNL sketch that she was a part of.

• 0:51Speaker 02

  I think we've got a person who's been so many different people. She's been Kamala Harris.

• 0:57Jessie Ware?

  Imagine if she could do a Lenny. Maybe we'll ask her to do a Lenny at the end and see.

• 1:02Speaker 02

  I think no one can impersonate the real thing.

• 1:05Jessie Ware?

  Okay, yes, she's been Kamala Harris.

• 1:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07Jessie Ware?

  Beyonce.

• 1:08Speaker 02

  Beyonce, oh yeah.

• 1:09Jessie Ware?

  Christina Aguilera runs our chef's kiss. Maya Angelou.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17Jessie Ware?

  ABBA.

• 1:17Speaker 02

  ABBA.

• 1:18Jessie Ware?

  One of the boys, I think she gets. She's brilliant. She's also in one of the most iconic funny films of, well, Our Lifetime, Bridesmaids.

• 1:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30Jessie Ware?

  She's also the star and executive producer of a very, very successful show on Apple TV+ called Loot. They're in their third season and that's why she's coming over. She plays Molly. Molly Wells, who is a billionaire, who basically is a billionaire because she inherits a load from divorce because her husband's having an affair. And she doesn't really know what to do with it. And she finds out that she has a housing. Is it a housing?

• 1:54Speaker 02

  She has a housing charity for homeless people. And it takes her a long time to adapt to the notion of homelessness and poverty.

• 2:03Jessie Ware?

  But she's an adorable character and charming and endearing. And there's such great characters in it. Her assistant, Nicholas.

• 2:12Speaker 02

  Love Nicholas.

• 2:13Jessie Ware?

  Arthur. Is she going to get together with Arthur in season three? Who knows? You'll find out in episode one.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  She's a very busy woman. She's got four, how many?

• 2:22Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, four kids.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Four children.

• 2:24Jessie Ware?

  And also her husband.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Her husband at the moment is, it's being proclaimed that it's the greatest film of the

• 2:31Jessie Ware?

  last thirty years.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:33Jessie Ware?

  And they're both doing promo. I'm sure it's very, very busy at the moment for both of them. We have Maya Rudolph coming to New Cross for some grub.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Good.

• 2:42Jessie Ware?

  Um, she's also a real foodie. She's presented a TV show called Baking It and she's also done a kind of tour around the best eateries, kind of like an Anthony Bourdain style thing where she goes to the best kind of hole in the hole.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  You've tried your hardest, Jase.

• 2:56Jessie Ware?

  I, I heard that she quite liked, she, she's, I think she likes everything, but she, I'd heard her say that she liked fried chicken. I have, I've done a version of fried chicken. I've done schnitzel, which from the mob app, because it always serves me well. Kitty Cole's recipe on there. It's a hazelnut and spices schnitzel with an orange and fennel pickle that I made yesterday. And I have to, I'm putting my hands up. I had some help today. My gorgeous nanny, fabulous Rosie, is the queen of the potato and I'm not fussed about potatoes, as you've probably known.

• 3:31Speaker 02

  I know. You cut your hand off rather neat one.

• 3:34Jessie Ware?

  So she's made these delicious Parmesan potatoes that actually are quite delicious. And then what have you made for Pudd?

• 3:42Speaker 02

  I've made a pea, an apple, pecan and miso tart tatin.

• 3:47Jessie Ware?

  That is my idea of heaven.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 3:49Jessie Ware?

  Yes.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Okay. I thought that. I thought, I'm not just going to do a straight tart tatin. I'm going to make it a bit more, which generation are we at now?

• 3:58Jessie Ware?

  A, B?

• 3:58Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 3:59Jessie Ware?

  I don't think my four-year-old's caring about miso.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Okay. So then it's more of your gen.

• 4:04Jessie Ware?

  I'd say millennial, Gen Z.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  Millennial, Gen Z.

• 4:07Jessie Ware?

  Miso.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, miso. I'd never even heard of miso.

• 4:10Jessie Ware?

  It's like salted caramel, isn't it?

• 4:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's all it is.

• 4:12Jessie Ware?

  It's like a salted caramel tart tatin.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:13Jessie Ware?

  Delicious.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:15Jessie Ware?

  Um, and then we've just ordered on delivery some cream and ice cream and creme fraiche.

• 4:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:19Jessie Ware?

  So we have options.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  Because I loved it in the house.

• 4:22Jessie Ware?

  So a really light meal, really.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:24Jessie Ware?

  Um, Maya Rudolph coming up on Table Mummers.

• 4:42Jessie Ware?

  Maya.

• 4:43Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 4:44Jessie Ware?

  You're here and I already love you.

• 4:46Speaker 03

  I know, I love you too.

• 4:47Jessie Ware?

  You've come in and you've taken all the drinks that I've offered to you.

• 4:49Speaker 03

  Three drinks, Jess.

• 4:50Jessie Ware?

  That's my, no, but you know what? That was so I looked less, I mean, more generous than I was because there was only a tiny bit of coffee.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  No, this feels right. It was just a little, because I didn't sleep. I mean, I got here the day before yesterday and I had that night where you think, okay, I'm gonna get to bed at 10:00. So I can get over the jet lag and then I woke up at 3:00.

• 5:08Jessie Ware?

  Do you not take melatonin?

• 5:10Speaker 03

  I do. Sometimes I didn't last night.

• 5:12Jessie Ware?

  Do you need some?

• 5:13Speaker 03

  Right now?

• 5:14Jessie Ware?

  Not right now, but I got you.

• 5:15Speaker 03

  Okay. Oh, thank you.

• 5:16Jessie Ware?

  I was just in LA for like four days last week.

• 5:18Speaker 03

  That's a hard turnaround.

• 5:19Jessie Ware?

  It was crazy. So I'm like, I just did my last day of melatonin. Now I need to wean myself off of voice. I'm like, this is for the children's cat lunches. Yeah.

• 5:29Jessie Ware?

  Thank you for being here.

• 5:30Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me in your home.

• 5:32Jessie Ware?

  It's a pleasure. So you're in promoting Loot.

• 5:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:36Jessie Ware?

  Season three.

• 5:37Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:38Jessie Ware?

  Which is brilliant. I started it. Molly is on a desert island after a plane crash.

• 5:44Speaker 03

  Wink, wink.

• 5:46Jessie Ware?

  It's so charming.

• 5:48Speaker 03

  Oh, good. I'm glad.

• 5:49Jessie Ware?

  And the outfits are fab.

• 5:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's the fun part.

• 5:51Jessie Ware?

  There's a lot of, I feel like you're wearing a lot of Taller Marmo. I don't know if you are, like the caftans.

• 5:56Speaker 03

  I love a Taller Marmo caftan.

• 5:58Jessie Ware?

  But I love a caftan. I feel like Molly, like did you?

• 6:01Speaker 03

  You're talking about that white fringey one.

• 6:02Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. And like, I feel like you were wearing one in season one as well. Like Taller Marmo, like Molly has good taste.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  She, she loves to dress up and I think that if it were, you know, if there's any chance for a theme, she loves a theme, which I think is really fun.

• 6:16Jessie Ware?

  Lovely.

• 6:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. I don't know where that came from, but we started that tradition in the first season and we haven't stopped. It's really fun.

• 6:23Jessie Ware?

  Do you keep any of the clothes?

• 6:26Speaker 03

  You mean steal them? Yes.

• 6:27Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. Okay, fine.

• 6:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:28Jessie Ware?

  Well, you're like an exec producer.

• 6:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm allowed to take some things home. I've been to a couple of weddings and I had to go to my cousin's wedding in Italy, so I borrowed a couple of things.

• 6:37Jessie Ware?

  Which one? From which season did you borrow?

• 6:39Speaker 03

  This, this season I borrowed a couple of things because my cousin got married in May in, in Puglia.

• 6:44Jessie Ware?

  Oh, gorgeous.

• 6:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was gorgeous.

• 6:45Jessie Ware?

  Puglia is gorgeous.

• 6:46Speaker 03

  I stomped on, oh my God, the food was incredible and I drank so much and stomped on grapes.

• 6:53Jessie Ware?

  For the new, so you made the new wine for us to drink next year.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  I guess, is that sanitary?

• 6:59Speaker 02

  Was that what they did at the wedding?

• 7:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  Oh, just so you missed a trick there, darling.

• 7:04Jessie Ware?

  Well, I got married in Greece.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 7:06Jessie Ware?

  Never an option.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  We could have done olives.

• 7:08Speaker 03

  I do love Greece. Where did you get married?

• 7:10Jessie Ware?

  We, I got married on an island that we've been going to forever called Skopulos.

• 7:14Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 7:14Jessie Ware?

  So.

• 7:15Speaker 03

  I've heard of it, but I'm still.

• 7:17Jessie Ware?

  It's tiny.

• 7:18Speaker 03

  But I still feel like I'm so new to Greece because you can go to one island and feel like you have no idea.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  Completely different.

• 7:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've been to Antiparos.

• 7:26Jessie Ware?

  Oh, Antiparos. I hear Antiparos is amazing.

• 7:29Speaker 03

  It's wonderful.

• 7:30Jessie Ware?

  Really good food.

• 7:31Speaker 03

  Really good food, but everything tastes good in Greece.

• 7:33Speaker 02

  That's true. Everything, the peaches and the tomatoes. You wonder what you've been eating when you eat a tomato in Greece.

• 7:40Speaker 03

  Agree with you and I feel like I had never properly had Greek yogurt until I went to Greece. And then I thought, oh, I'm so embarrassed for myself. I thought I was eating Greek yogurt at home. It doesn't translate.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  No.

• 7:52Speaker 03

  It's not the same.

• 7:54Speaker 02

  Just thick and creamy and lovely.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  Thick and creamy.

• 7:56Speaker 02

  And then the honey is better there.

• 7:58Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, it's incredible.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  Our island is particularly good for honey.

• 8:01Jessie Ware?

  I feel like everyone's gonna say their island's particularly good.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, our island is the greenest and the bluest.

• 8:06Jessie Ware?

  I've realized.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  I believe that.

• 8:07Jessie Ware?

  I've got the door open, but we can close it now because I've been trying to get rid of the fumes of frying chicken. I heard you like fried chicken.

• 8:13Speaker 03

  Oh, great. I love good food. Yeah, so whatever you make, I'll eat it.

• 8:18Jessie Ware?

  Because you've done a few food programs.

• 8:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess you're right.

• 8:22Jessie Ware?

  Like, yeah, like a baking one, but also you did one that everyone wants to do, which kind of Phil Rosenthal does as well. But you did one like a kind of Anthony Bourdain style one where you went to like, and it was in twenty twenty.

• 8:34Speaker 03

  Oh, I was the, I was the narrator and.

• 8:36Jessie Ware?

  Oh, that's annoying.

• 8:37Speaker 03

  I know, I wanted to be in it, but instead I just got to look at all of it. But I learned a lot. They did get to send me some things. They were pretty amazing.

• 8:45Jessie Ware?

  So do you travel a lot with your four children?

• 8:47Speaker 03

  I mean, I don't think I travel as much as I could or should because of school.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  I know.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  Isn't that boring?

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Convenient, isn't it? Where are they at home now?

• 8:57Speaker 03

  They're at home now.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  And where's home?

• 8:59Speaker 03

  California, Los Angeles.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  In Los Angeles.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  I grew up in Los Angeles, so it's my hometown. So I, I, yeah.

• 9:05Speaker 02

  Do you still love it?

• 9:07Speaker 03

  I thought that I was a New Yorker. I chose New York, but then I ended up going back home. But I'm near my family, so I feel like it's important. Like, my parents are there.

• 9:17Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  And that's where they should be.

• 9:19Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 9:20Speaker 03

  My kids should know their grandparents.

• 9:22Jessie Ware?

  I I was speaking to a fellow Los Ange- what do you call yourself?

• 9:26Speaker 03

  Los Angelen?

• 9:27Jessie Ware?

  Los Angelen.

• 9:28Speaker 03

  Los Angelina?

• 9:29Jessie Ware?

  Los Angelina.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  That's what Jimmy Kimmel says.

• 9:33Speaker 03

  Flangelino.

• 9:34Jessie Ware?

  Okay. Well, you'd be a Lena, wouldn't you?

• 9:36Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 9:37Jessie Ware?

  I don't know.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  I I never thought about that. Yeah, I like that.

• 9:40Jessie Ware?

  So a fellow Los Angelina, oh, oh, and said that there's Los Angel- you are a different breed to the ones that come in.

• 9:49Speaker 03

  We're not.

• 9:49Jessie Ware?

  That's how Londoners feel, too.

• 9:50Speaker 03

  Correct. We're not, we're not the imports that make it look bad. We're, we're the cool ones that are like, we're low key. We're just more low key. Los Angeles is sprawling in the same way here. Like, you have a lot of different microclimates and different neighborhoods. And people really retreat to their homes. You get London here, which is nice, because you have a place where people all congregate, the proper city. Los Angeles is kind of just sprawling. It's enormous.

• 10:21Speaker 02

  You don't have a West End, really?

• 10:22Speaker 03

  No.

• 10:23Speaker 02

  Like where all the theater community is and things like that.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  Downtown has that stuff, but it doesn't have the same.

• 10:28Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 10:28Speaker 03

  So I'd always craved moving to New York because it has that city excitement.

• 10:35Speaker 02

  So more, I hate to be rude.

• 10:36Jessie Ware?

  She is from Los Angeles, so she likes it, so careful.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  My, I love Los Angeles.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  But you, yeah, I didn't make it. You can say whatever you want.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  All right. So I love it, and my other daughter lives there.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 10:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then, but when you're there, it's very easy. I can drive everywhere. I can park everywhere. Everything, it's cheap to park. It's like they almost give you the parking. And then, but the one thing is, you, everyone walks around looking like they're either going to a yoga class

• 11:04Speaker 03

  Isn't that crazy?

• 11:06Speaker 02

  They've always got something rolled under their arm and gym pants on.

• 11:09Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  And trainers.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 11:11Speaker 02

  You go to New York and you suddenly see everyone looking quite chic.

• 11:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:16Speaker 02

  Their glasses are beautiful.

• 11:18Speaker 03

  But that's London to me, too.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  I think that was also the excitement to me, growing up and seeing that cities, people got dressed.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  And they.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  They got dressed.

• 11:28Speaker 03

  They got dressed and they and they were surrounded by culture. You know, that was exciting to me. I mean, we have culture in Los Angeles. It's just a different, it's a different way of doing it. But there's just, there's more sort of things to unearth and find in Los Angeles. You have to know.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Which I think is kind of a nice magical secret about it.

• 11:45Jessie Ware?

  Can I, can we kind of take it back to?

• 11:48Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 11:49Jessie Ware?

  A memorable meal from your childhood and what were, who was around the dinner table and what were you eating?

• 11:55Speaker 03

  I would say, well, it all, it shifted over the years. I mean, I was partially raised by a woman named Magdalena who made chicken enchiladas, which I think might be one of my favorite things in the world. I've.

• 12:12Jessie Ware?

  What goes into a chicken enchilada?

• 12:15Speaker 03

  Chicken.

• 12:15Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 12:16Speaker 03

  And it's a red sauce.

• 12:18Jessie Ware?

  Is it hot?

• 12:19Speaker 03

  Not, I, I don't like spicy, spicy. I can't, I'm just, I'm just a wimp. I can't do it.

• 12:25Jessie Ware?

  Jessie loves it.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  Do you?

• 12:26Jessie Ware?

  Hmm. I'm not like a spicy Indian. I didn't, I, no, I'm, I'm, I'm not as hardcore as other people.

• 12:33Speaker 03

  I'm not hardcore.

• 12:34Jessie Ware?

  You've talked about this. You wouldn't do hot ones?

• 12:35Speaker 03

  No.

• 12:35Jessie Ware?

  I wouldn't either. I mean, I'm not getting invited, but like.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  Hot ones?

• 12:38Jessie Ware?

  Hot ones.

• 12:39Speaker 03

  You say that now, but you might be invited.

• 12:41Speaker 02

  What is hot ones?

• 12:42Jessie Ware?

  Please, Maya, explain.

• 12:43Speaker 03

  Hot Ones is a show where you eat spice, spicy food. They give you, um, like chicken wings, or if you're vegetarian, obviously it's some sort of faux nugget. But they have all these different hot sauces and they go up incrementally.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  Why would anyone do that?

• 12:58Speaker 03

  I agree with you. Why would anyone do that? Here's my fear. I can't stand the heat. And I think it makes me nervous that my throat would close on camera and I'd have a panic attack on camera. So I was like, I don't want to do that. And then I've watched people do it and I've seen them hallucinate. I've seen people hallucinate.

• 13:17Jessie Ware?

  From a hot sauce?

• 13:18Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 13:19Jessie Ware?

  Bloody hell.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  Why would you do that?

• 13:21Jessie Ware?

  But I mean, weirdly, you have kind of done it twice, though.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, fake, but just fake.

• 13:25Jessie Ware?

  Well done, because you kind of have had the experience without having the pain.

• 13:29Speaker 03

  I love, well, the host is phenomenal and I love him, Sean, but I don't, and I told him, I love you, but I'll never do your show.

• 13:35Jessie Ware?

  So Maya did it as Beyonce once.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  Oh, you kidding me?

• 13:38Jessie Ware?

  And then also as Molly, which goes terribly wrong.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  I actually did it as Beyonce twice.

• 13:42Jessie Ware?

  Oh, really?

• 13:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, what a, what a weirdo.

• 13:46Jessie Ware?

  The thing is about eating something hot, my nose runs.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, my nose runs.

• 13:50Jessie Ware?

  And I look red. So all I'm doing is blowing my nose all the time. So I definitely wouldn't go on hot ones.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  People get crazy, but I can see the two of you doing it now that you that you're but if you like hot stuff, you can eat it and chicken top.

• 14:01Jessie Ware?

  I don't. She's just like an absolute pussy. And I'm like.

• 14:05Speaker 03

  I'm a total pussy.

• 14:06Jessie Ware?

  You're half a pussy. At Nando's, I'm like a medium girl.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  Oh, no, I'm.

• 14:09Jessie Ware?

  And you're lemon and herb.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  That's the peri peri.

• 14:11Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 14:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm lemon and herb and you're medium.

• 14:14Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 14:15Speaker 03

  Would would would your husband go for hot?

• 14:17Jessie Ware?

  Do extra hot, yeah. But I can't.

• 14:19Speaker 03

  Uh, extra hot?

• 14:20Jessie Ware?

  I know.

• 14:21Speaker 03

  Who needs extra?

• 14:22Jessie Ware?

  I want to taste my food.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  Hot? What? That sounds unpleasant.

• 14:25Jessie Ware?

  Silly. Um, so chicken enchiladas.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  Chicken enchiladas.

• 14:28Jessie Ware?

  By Magdalena.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  By Magdalena. She was our live in everything. She helped raise me and, you know, I mean.

• 14:36Jessie Ware?

  Is she Mexican?

• 14:37Speaker 03

  She was from El Salvador.

• 14:38Jessie Ware?

  El Salvador.

• 14:39Speaker 03

  Magdalena Amaya, which is so interesting because my name is Maya.

• 14:43Jessie Ware?

  Were you called after Maya Angelou?

• 14:45Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 14:46Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 14:46Speaker 03

  I think so. I think my my parents.

• 14:49Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 14:49Speaker 03

  That was part of this. Yeah.

• 14:52Jessie Ware?

  And who was around the dinner table? Do you have a brother?

• 14:54Speaker 03

  My brother, my dad, and then eventually my my stepmom, which is like a whole other portion of growing up. Uh, my stepmother's from Kyoto. She's Japanese. And so, um, I grew up eating a lot of, um, home cooked Japanese food.

• 15:09Jessie Ware?

  Amazing.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, which is really.

• 15:11Jessie Ware?

  Amazing.

• 15:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. And also like really not before sushi became popular, like it was embarrassing, I think, a little bit to, you know, to eat raw fish. I think people were so like, and people think Japanese food is just sushi. But really, the things we were eating at home were more like home cooked things and baked fish and lots of beautiful vegetables. And she's an amazing cook, my stepmother.

• 15:35Jessie Ware?

  So what would be your packed lunch when you go to school? Would it have like Japanese influences?

• 15:40Speaker 03

  I want to say it was, but it wasn't. No, I think at that point I was sort of like, you know, trying to be a little bit cooler because people people didn't understand that it was cool yet. So I probably stopped. Well, I probably brought something boring because my mom, when my mom was alive, my mom was. Really into health food and nobody, there was no Arowan, there was no Whole Foods, there was nothing. There was this place Quinn's. And it was a health food store and she, we weren't allowed to eat sugar cereal, no soda. So we got puffed rice cereal and then we would drizzle honey on it. My mom was a total health nut. It was, but now I like eating like that.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  Do your kids like, do you, do you?

• 16:21Speaker 03

  No, my kids love junk.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  Love it. Like, I don't know, you don't have Canes here, do you?

• 16:27Speaker 02

  What's Canes?

• 16:28Speaker 03

  It's this chicken place. It's like chicken. Fingers, what do you call them? Tenders?

• 16:33Speaker 02

  You call them tenders, yeah.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Chicken gougon.

• 16:37Speaker 03

  Gougon, they're, they're, they're gougony.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  Long bits, not like chicken nuggets.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  Long bits.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  That sounds better than fingers.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  Aren't you part of a kind of dynasty of like fast food? Isn't it Wendy's, is it Wendy's?

• 16:49Speaker 03

  Yes, how did you know that?

• 16:50Speaker 02

  We know everything.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  You really do.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  Well, my, so my. A black card for um Wendy's, so you just get all you can eat.

• 16:57Speaker 03

  I wish I did.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  Hey, I think you can ask.

• 17:00Speaker 03

  Growing up, we didn't have Wendy's in Los Angeles.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 17:02Speaker 03

  So it was very like exotic to go to Miami and visit my family, but my, my dad's father. Owned a chain of Wendy's in Southern Florida, so I thought it was really cool that we'd go there and like.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  Is Wendy's takeout?

• 17:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's hamburgers.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Is it like In-N-Out?

• 17:21Speaker 03

  It's, In-N-Out's better.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  In-N-Out, I never got In-N-Out till the last time I was in L.A.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  Did you like it?

• 17:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I tell you what I like.

• 17:30Speaker 03

  I like it a specific way.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  I like it because I like the raw onions, which are very sweet.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  Somehow they get sweet onions. And I like the lettuce and the tomato, so it kind of tasted fresh.

• 17:42Speaker 03

  I think that's their whole motto.

• 17:44Speaker 02

  I didn't have the chips. How do you take your In-N-Out burger?

• 17:48Speaker 03

  Thank you for asking.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 17:50Speaker 03

  Um, I like it animal style.

• 17:52Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 17:53Speaker 03

  Which is that animal style is um sauteed onions and um what they call spread, which is their version of a sauce. I think it's probably the closest thing to like a Thousand Island, perhaps. Sort of that when you mix ketchup and mayonnaise together and you get that kind of peachy, tangy sauce.

• 18:13Speaker 02

  But I didn't see.

• 18:14Jessie Ware?

  Burger sauce.

• 18:15Speaker 02

  But I never saw animal style up on the thing.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  Secret. They have a secret menu. They have so many secret menus. It's so fun. Sometimes I get it protein style if I'm feeling.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  Protein style?

• 18:25Speaker 03

  Well, you don't get a bun. You get it wrapped in lettuce.

• 18:28Jessie Ware?

  And you get protein animal style?

• 18:29Speaker 03

  Yes, I do. It's very messy, but I do.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Did you know this?

• 18:32Jessie Ware?

  I did, mum. Everyone knows.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  Everyone does.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  I didn't know it. They just said, which burger do you want?

• 18:36Speaker 03

  And you look on the thing and you say it and you. Yeah, no, it's a thing.

• 18:40Jessie Ware?

  Bless you.

• 18:41Speaker 02

  Oh, shut up.

• 18:42Jessie Ware?

  Bless you.

• 18:43Speaker 02

  Now I know.

• 18:43Jessie Ware?

  You can also get animal style chips as well, fries.

• 18:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, you can.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  What's animal style chips?

• 18:48Speaker 03

  I I I think it's better. Yeah.

• 18:51Jessie Ware?

  Do you like being in England?

• 18:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:54Jessie Ware?

  What's your kind of, do you have a go to place? Are you gonna tell me Dishoom?

• 18:58Speaker 03

  No.

• 18:59Jessie Ware?

  Okay, good.

• 18:59Speaker 03

  But I just recently discovered Dishoom breakfast.

• 19:03Jessie Ware?

  Oh, it's really good. It's really good. The naan with the bacon and it's really.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  It's lovely and you don't have to stand in line. I usually, I usually stay in Covent.

• 19:13Jessie Ware?

  Why don't you have to stand?

• 19:13Speaker 03

  There's no line for breakfast and it's massive in there.

• 19:16Jessie Ware?

  Genius.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's kind of how we discovered it. And somebody says, you know, they have a really good breakfast and it's a beautiful menu. Um, we usually stay in Covent Garden, so I know Covent Garden best. And my husband made a movie here, I don't know how many years ago. So we lived here for like a good three month stint and I really started to get to know, we were actually staying more close to Soho. So I kind of know.

• 19:40Jessie Ware?

  I know.

• 19:41Speaker 03

  It was like, it was like a dream life. I lived at the ham yard in an apartment. It was a dream and I wasn't even working.

• 19:49Jessie Ware?

  Was this pre kids or with kids?

• 19:50Speaker 03

  With kids.

• 19:51Jessie Ware?

  Did they come over to you?

• 19:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, all the kids came.

• 19:53Jessie Ware?

  Which film was this?

• 19:54Speaker 03

  Phantom Thread.

• 19:55Jessie Ware?

  Okay, Paul Thomas Anderson is your partner.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  It's like got a massive film out at the moment.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  Yes, we were just here for it for one battle after another.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Quite well.

• 20:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Calling it the greatest film of the last thirty years. Crazy for it.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  That's phenomenal. It is really, really incredible. It's an incredible movie. I have to be honest.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  I'm next week.

• 20:19Speaker 03

  You should go see it um in the cinema.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  I'm definitely.

• 20:23Speaker 03

  But but it's um he shot it in Vista Vision, which is a camera that I don't think has been um uh projected for uh the film hasn't been projected for sixty five years or something crazy. I think the last movie was The Searchers, apparently. I hope I got that right, Paul. But it's being shown in Vista Vision here or in seventy millimeter. You should see it in either format because it's it really is an incredible experience to be in a movie theater and see film that way. It just takes over your entire body. It's tremendous.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Do you feel partly responsible for the success because you are his muse, obviously?

• 20:59Speaker 03

  Oh, why? Obviously. I mean, it's obvious, right?

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  You can, yeah, you can, you can smell it.

• 21:06Speaker 02

  When when you were here, do you go to the theater?

• 21:08Speaker 03

  Um I have, yeah, but but the times that I've been here for a long amount of time, if I'm with the kids, I see kids stuff.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  Have you been in the, have you?

• 21:15Speaker 03

  Been in the theater here? No, I wish.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, you need to.

• 21:18Speaker 03

  I think when the kids get a little bit older and they don't have a school schedule, I do see that being my future.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. How old are your kids?

• 21:27Speaker 03

  My oldest is about to turn twenty and my youngest is twelve.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  Twenty year old.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  Can you believe that?

• 21:32Speaker 02

  No, I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  That's how I feel. Twenty, almost, almost twenty, almost sixteen, fourteen and twelve.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  Fuckers, they're kind of in the midst of like exams and.

• 21:43Speaker 03

  So many teenagers.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  So so the anxiety when they go out now.

• 21:48Speaker 03

  I don't like it.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's hard.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  And I don't like that we don't live in a city like like being in London or being in New York and you know that they're walking or taking the train like they're getting cars all the time. I hate it.

• 22:00Speaker 02

  Can who drive? How many drive in yours?

• 22:02Speaker 03

  My oldest drives, which is actually very responsible.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  Do any of them want to go into like?

• 22:08Speaker 03

  Problem.

• 22:08Jessie Ware?

  Oh, do you kind of not want them to?

• 22:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:11Jessie Ware?

  But is, because I feel the same, but I'm also like.

• 22:15Speaker 03

  But what else are they gonna do? Like, they were raised by artists, so of course, I, I love that, too. If I'm being honest, and it's not, it doesn't have anything to do with talking to you guys, I've always said this out loud to them. I, I have a one in four chance of that, one of them being a chef. I think that would be an amazing thing, to have one of my kids be a great chef.

• 22:33Jessie Ware?

  Well, I'm sure they will be.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  I like, let's hope so.

• 22:35Jessie Ware?

  Well, let's talk about, can you cook?

• 22:37Speaker 03

  I can cook. I do, I wish I, yes, I can cook.

• 22:40Jessie Ware?

  Okay, if we were coming around to yours for dinners, what would you be serving us?

• 22:45Speaker 03

  The most recent thing that I've really been enjoying making is like a homemade version of a miso cod, but more like a salmon, salmon with miso, like, like, almost like a teriyaki, but like a sweet miso.

• 22:59Jessie Ware?

  And are you making the salmon kind of break up like the cod does, where it's like that melt in your mouth?

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, so the top is bit caramel.

• 23:07Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, yum.

• 23:08Speaker 03

  And it gets kind of like crispy and, and gooey.

• 23:11Jessie Ware?

  I'm gonna be listening, but I'm also sorting out the food, so keep on telling me, so you're gonna serve your miso salmon with what?

• 23:17Speaker 03

  I, okay, so, um, the kids love to look at things on Instagram. My oldest daughter Pearl loves to find recipes. And we found this recipe for, I forgot what they're called, but you take a potato and you put a chopstick underneath and you slice it really, really, really thin.

• 23:34Jessie Ware?

  Oh, hassle, so bad.

• 23:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Those are delicious.

• 23:38Jessie Ware?

  I know.

• 23:39Speaker 03

  But you know what I do, I don't have the time to do that, I really just throw sweet potatoes in the oven. I love a sweet potato maybe more than anything in the world.

• 23:46Jessie Ware?

  Do you? Why?

• 23:47Speaker 03

  I don't know. They're so good. You find them boring?

• 23:52Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, a little bit.

• 23:52Speaker 03

  Oh, sorry. Don't be sorry.

• 23:55Jessie Ware?

  Um, yeah, I don't mind them, but it's not my go-to.

• 23:58Speaker 03

  No, what's your go-to?

• 24:00Speaker 02

  A normal potato, probably alright.

• 24:02Speaker 03

  Well, you can't go wrong with a normal potato, ever.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Do you have a meal where you all sit round together? You try and say, well, this is say, or do you, in the evening, do you try?

• 24:12Speaker 03

  We used to when they were little, but now I feel like, I I don't know about you, but I feel like having children has become, like, everything they do that's after school feels like it's professional level. Like, when I was a kid, I'd go to dance class and I had a dance class and I danced and then I would go home. Now my girls are on a dance team or, you know, if they play sports and they travel, you're like, why can't anyone, why is everything professional? So no one is ever home at the same time.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  Oh, is that a fennel salad?

• 24:42Jessie Ware?

  It's a pickled fennel and, um, and orange salad.

• 24:45Speaker 03

  That's so exciting.

• 24:46Jessie Ware?

  Oh, great.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  There's this incredible restaurant in New York called Ultra Paradiso that has this beautiful fennel salad that has orange in it. And I tried to replicate it and I couldn't.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  Who could Magdalena make chicken soup? Is chicken soup part of your life?

• 25:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, I do love chicken soup.

• 25:04Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 25:04Speaker 03

  So my grandmother would probably be, my my dad's side of the family is Jewish and my my grandmother, his mother was the one who would make things for us, but she was much more of an appetizer lady. She loved a cocktail and appetizers. So everything that my grandmother made was always a starter.

• 25:22Speaker 02

  Which was her cocktail?

• 25:23Speaker 03

  Um, she she was a martini lady or a gimlet, sometimes a gimlet.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  What's in gimlet?

• 25:28Speaker 03

  It's lime, I think.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:30Speaker 03

  I think it's lime and.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  Do you like a cocktail?

• 25:33Speaker 03

  I do.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  Which one?

• 25:35Speaker 03

  I've always been a tequila girl, but lately, my husband's really good at making martinis or Negronis. So I like, his martinis are really good.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  So what's he put in them that's special?

• 25:46Speaker 03

  Um, well, we, okay, so he's in love with Dukes here, the bar here.

• 25:51Jessie Ware?

  I've never been there.

• 25:52Speaker 03

  You're kidding.

• 25:53Jessie Ware?

  And I hear it's, does an amazing dirty martini.

• 25:55Speaker 03

  It's an incredible martini, but you're only allowed two, they won't serve you more, they're really strong.

• 26:01Speaker 02

  So strong.

• 26:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, I don't even think the vermouth touches the glass.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Because you're likely to end up in a bar brawl.

• 26:08Speaker 03

  Correct, or in a, or in a ditch, yes.

• 26:11Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:12Speaker 03

  I had two once and, which I should not, because I don't drink that much.

• 26:18Speaker 02

  And your head was gone.

• 26:19Speaker 03

  I was, let's just put it this way, the kids said, do you remember when there was that earthquake in London? It's because I. I fell down.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  I did, I really did.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Do you like an olive vinaigrette?

• 26:32Speaker 03

  I do. I used to like vodka with onions.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:36Speaker 03

  And then I went to Olive's.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  Vodka with onions?

• 26:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, pickled onions. Have you ever had a pickled onion in it on a little toothpick? They're nice.

• 26:42Jessie Ware?

  Is that a Gibson?

• 26:44Speaker 03

  I think that's a Gibson. Yeah. But Paul makes, my, my husband makes them with um, a lemon and I'm, I'm liking that a lot more now.

• 26:52Speaker 02

  So does he take the, just the?

• 26:53Speaker 03

  For the grind. Yeah, just a little bit. Yeah. Just a teeny little bit. He knows his vermouths. Like, we were, last time we were in London, he bought the vermouth, the proper vermouth.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  Oh, which vermouth do you like?

• 27:04Speaker 03

  This guy Alessandro at Duke's, it's like.

• 27:08Jessie Ware?

  Oh my God, you know the bartender's name?

• 27:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 27:09Jessie Ware?

  I'm obsessed.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  Well, he's, he's really something. He's very special. I mean, I think he's well known now. I mean, he's, he's the magic sauce to Duke's.

• 27:20Jessie Ware?

  Fair enough.

• 27:20Speaker 03

  Look at this.

• 27:21Speaker 02

  So where did you eat last night?

• 27:23Speaker 03

  In the hotel room. But what I was gonna say is, I have a, a restaurant here that I love, Barbary. Do you ever go to Barbary?

• 27:29Speaker 02

  No.

• 27:30Jessie Ware?

  Oh, Barbary?

• 27:31Speaker 02

  Oh. Jessie knows all the places.

• 27:32Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, it's great.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  They have an incredible salmon there that I would love to be able to make. Oh my God, that Jerusalem bagel and the spices.

• 27:41Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I haven't had that.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  Oh, it's so good. Well, they make all that, they make all their own bread.

• 27:46Jessie Ware?

  Isn't the Barbary, they're the same people that have Paloma or Paloma.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  I've never been.

• 27:51Speaker 03

  It's in Covent Garden.

• 27:52Jessie Ware?

  Oh, yeah, it's, it's.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Well, why aren't we going there for my birthday?

• 27:55Speaker 03

  It's right across from the porridge shop, Twenty Six Grains.

• 27:58Jessie Ware?

  I will tell you why we're not going there for your birthday, because I'm taking the kids to Three Little Pigs at the Unicorn Theatre, which is in London Bridge.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 28:06Jessie Ware?

  And my daughter's got band practice at two, three thirty, so we've got to slot you in, Lenny.

• 28:11Speaker 02

  You're fitting me in, darling.

• 28:12Jessie Ware?

  I'm sorry.

• 28:12Speaker 03

  See what I mean? I feel like everything is professional level. Like, let's just, let's just play some drums.

• 28:20Speaker 03

  You know, but it's like, I know their schedules take over our lives and I understand it because now that I have one in college, then you turn around and it's over and you're sort of like, wait, what, what happened?

• 28:31Jessie Ware?

  But hang on, you say, let's just make play drums. Is that because you are an overachiever? You can not only play drums, you can sing. Do you have a Prince tribute band?

• 28:39Speaker 03

  I do, but I don't play drums. Yes.

• 28:41Jessie Ware?

  I saw you do that. Tell your boyfriend.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Oh, well, that's just cuffs.

• 28:45Jessie Ware?

  Mate, I can't do, that's, that's coordination.

• 28:48Speaker 03

  Really?

• 28:49Jessie Ware?

  Are you kidding me? Like, I can't even do this. Like.

• 28:52Speaker 03

  You don't.

• 28:53Jessie Ware?

  Well, that's really sweet of you, but like, you're an overachiever. You're funny, you're talented, you're beautiful, you can sing, you can sing Christina Aguilera riffs, you can be in a Prince band, you can play drums. You're very talented.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  Thanks, Jaci.

• 29:07Jessie Ware?

  No, you're welcome.

• 29:08Speaker 03

  I mean, I.

• 29:10Jessie Ware?

  Are you a Tiger Mum?

• 29:11Speaker 03

  Um, no.

• 29:12Jessie Ware?

  No.

• 29:13Speaker 03

  Oh, no, no, I'm definitely not. I'm a musical person, so I don't really think about music as another thing. I think it's more part of me.

• 29:23Jessie Ware?

  That's so nice.

• 29:24Speaker 03

  Well, because I'm, because my mom's music, like she is music. So, growing up, I didn't think it wasn't normal. Does that make sense?

• 29:33Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm sure I was listening to music when she was pregnant with me. I was listening to her sing. So it just is, and, and my parents were always making music and people were always playing music in our house and it just seemed normal to me.

• 29:46Jessie Ware?

  Which Prince song is your, would you sing if we said you've got to sing a Prince song?

• 29:52Speaker 03

  Like if I had no choice?

• 29:53Jessie Ware?

  If you had no choice?

• 29:55Speaker 03

  Um, I like so many, so I ca, it's, it's very difficult to choose.

• 30:00Jessie Ware?

  Mm hmm.

• 30:01Speaker 03

  But I, Princess are a band that my friend Gretchen and I.

• 30:05Jessie Ware?

  Princess.

• 30:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, we call Princess because we're girls.

• 30:07Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 30:08Speaker 03

  Um, we chose to do a very specific.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  Era of Prince songs. We only do the ones that we grew up listening to, which is like nineteen eighty three to nineteen eighty six, seven, six, seven. Do your kids say six, seven? Oh, no, they're two, they're two.

• 30:27Jessie Ware?

  No, what's six, seven?

• 30:28Speaker 03

  It's some stupid TikTok thing.

• 30:30Jessie Ware?

  What?

• 30:31Speaker 03

  Six, seven.

• 30:32Jessie Ware?

  What?

• 30:33Speaker 03

  Thank you. What?

• 30:35Jessie Ware?

  Why? Is it funny?

• 30:36Speaker 03

  No, it's not. It's stupid. It's so stupid.

• 30:40Jessie Ware?

  Oh, thanks. But I don't. When, when would they say it?

• 30:43Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. I, I, I've corrupted your brain with it. They just say it. Do your kids not just say stupid stuff all the time? And you're like, what does that mean?

• 30:52Jessie Ware?

  They kind of don't know what TikTok is yet.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  That's just you wait.

• 30:56Jessie Ware?

  Six, seven. So like when, if you go, do you want some potatoes? They go six, seven.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, they think it's hilarious.

• 31:03Jessie Ware?

  Where's it come from, though? Where's it like derived?

• 31:05Speaker 03

  Something on TikTok that has no, you sound like me and I love you for it because I want to know the context of everything. I want to know where things come from or why they're saying it.

• 31:16Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  But that's not what they're experiencing. They're experiencing people saying something and you said it, so it's popular and therefore it's popular.

• 31:23Jessie Ware?

  So they wouldn't be like, it's swadda wadda.

• 31:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:26Jessie Ware?

  No, they wouldn't do that one.

• 31:27Speaker 03

  They wouldn't do that.

• 31:28Jessie Ware?

  That's such a shame that you can't be cool. Yeah, well, you are cool. That's the annoying.

• 31:33Speaker 03

  I told my daughter that the other day. I was like, you know, your mom is cool, right?

• 31:36Jessie Ware?

  She said, whatever.

• 31:37Speaker 03

  She was like, yeah, yeah, Mama, I know. I know, but she, she doesn't think so.

• 31:41Jessie Ware?

  I have, I can get some salad out, but.

• 31:44Speaker 03

  This is salad?

• 31:44Jessie Ware?

  Okay, fine. Great. Thank you.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  That's a bed.

• 31:46Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. Okay, fine. Perfect.

• 31:48Speaker 03

  What's this lovely stuff?

• 31:49Jessie Ware?

  So this is just like a herby mayo, but I actually mixed it with some Greek yogurt and, um, so to kind of make it less mayoey and kind of cut through.

• 31:57Speaker 03

  Beautiful.

• 31:58Jessie Ware?

  Okay, thanks.

• 31:59Speaker 03

  Did you put lemon and dill?

• 32:01Jessie Ware?

  I love dill. I got chives in there. Dill. No garlic. Not garlic anyway. Um, maybe there's some garlic on the Parmesan potatoes.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, they're Parmesan. Wow.

• 32:12Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  They're delicious.

• 32:13Jessie Ware?

  Um.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  This is delicious.

• 32:14Jessie Ware?

  Good. Thank you. You know what? It's not my recipe. It's from an app called Mob app and it just.

• 32:19Speaker 03

  I love Mob.

• 32:20Jessie Ware?

  Me too.

• 32:22Speaker 03

  And everything is ingredient wise, really beautiful.

• 32:25Jessie Ware?

  Hmm.

• 32:25Speaker 03

  They make it look really easy.

• 32:27Jessie Ware?

  Hmm.

• 32:27Speaker 03

  Hmm. Those are nice.

• 32:29Jessie Ware?

  They do love a bit of gotcha chang though, don't they? Like everything's like.

• 32:32Speaker 03

  Everybody does.

• 32:32Jessie Ware?

  Chang pasta, sausage, gotcha chang scrambled eggs.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  I know. I think I did a mob recipe with some gotcha jing now that you said it. Somebody's crispy rice, rice, like you take your old rice.

• 32:44Jessie Ware?

  Oh, great.

• 32:45Speaker 03

  For like a breakfast.

• 32:46Jessie Ware?

  Perfect. I love rice in the morning and breakfast.

• 32:48Speaker 03

  So good with like some fried veggies and then.

• 32:50Jessie Ware?

  Gorgeous. And you know, apparently if it's been in the fridge, it's lower carb.

• 32:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. What do you mean?

• 32:56Jessie Ware?

  So the carb like glycemic index or whatever, like the, the carb of it, it's actually much kind of, even though we love carbs, but it kind of is less carby and therefore like you can eat more of it.

• 33:08Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 33:09Jessie Ware?

  And it's the same like, that's why I freeze some of my sourdough, like, and then you kind of.

• 33:13Speaker 03

  Do you make sourdough?

• 33:14Jessie Ware?

  I do when I, I haven't had a bad stint, actually.

• 33:17Speaker 03

  So impressed with you.

• 33:18Jessie Ware?

  No, you know what? I did it. And then I got completely obsessed with it to the point where my husband's like, please enough. And I was like, like this.

• 33:26Speaker 03

  It takes over.

• 33:27Jessie Ware?

  It does take over. And then like you get it all on your clothes.

• 33:31Speaker 03

  It's your whole kitchen.

• 33:33Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. So he was like, can you just calm down?

• 33:35Speaker 03

  That's so good.

• 33:36Jessie Ware?

  It's good, isn't it?

• 33:37Speaker 03

  It's delicious.

• 33:37Jessie Ware?

  Really easy.

• 33:38Speaker 03

  What did you do?

• 33:39Jessie Ware?

  So it's fennel and then orange and then you boil up. I didn't have enough rice wine vinegar, so I did part rice wine vinegar, what I had, and then apple cider, sugar, boiling water, you boil it up. And then you let it cool and then you just pour it over. So easy.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  Oh my God, it's so good.

• 33:57Jessie Ware?

  Thank you.

• 33:58Speaker 03

  They're very mild.

• 33:59Jessie Ware?

  Oh, great.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  Delicious.

• 34:01Jessie Ware?

  So, so whilst we eat and chat, start thinking about your last supper.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 34:08Jessie Ware?

  Well, which is kind of funny because, you know, Molly ends up in Loot season three on a desert island and bless her, she's having really great food. Umberto's to her because, well, I don't want to give it away, but.

• 34:19Speaker 03

  I just wanted to know where that was shot. Did you think it was shot on a desert island? Did it look like a desert island?

• 34:25Jessie Ware?

  Kind of ish.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, good. That's good. That's the, that's the magic. That's the magic of Hollywood. But it was, um. It wasn't Studio City. Might as well have been. I think we were in, um, Redondo Beach or something. We were in Sun Beach.

• 34:40Jessie Ware?

  Great.

• 34:41Speaker 03

  We were in California.

• 34:41Jessie Ware?

  Um, so, last supper, desert island. You're going for a very long time. What are you gonna have as your starter, main food?

• 34:51Speaker 03

  Thank you for asking. Okay, let's see. I think there should be a lobster roll at some point.

• 34:56Jessie Ware?

  Is it from a particular place?

• 34:57Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Well.

• 34:59Jessie Ware?

  Do you ever make them at home?

• 35:00Speaker 03

  I've never made them. Have you ever cooked a lobster at home?

• 35:03Jessie Ware?

  No, I'm too scared.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 35:05Jessie Ware?

  And I feel like maybe we should both do it and feed back to each other.

• 35:07Speaker 03

  I used to feel that way. I didn't grow up cooking at all. I was scared to cook and my first thing I made. To make me feel like, okay, I can, I can do this, but I was scared to make was a roast chicken. I just thought, I'm gonna undercook it, I'm gonna poison everyone in my family. And I was scared. And I think once I got over that fear, I felt like, I can figure this out. Although I am really afraid of cooking.

• 35:33Jessie Ware?

  En masse?

• 35:34Speaker 03

  Meats.

• 35:35Jessie Ware?

  Well.

• 35:35Speaker 03

  I don't think I grew up eating a lot, because I didn't really eat a lot of meat growing up. I think we ate more chicken and fish. My parents said that we were vegetarian, but we ate chicken and fish. I think that was a seventies thing.

• 35:46Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 35:46Speaker 03

  I don't know. But I think I'm normal, but my husband thinks I'm really weird about. I'm, I'm always weird. I'm gonna like undercook something or poison or, or, or things turning bad. Like, oh, throw that away. Just throw that away.

• 35:58Jessie Ware?

  I never think of that. I'm not gonna serve lobster. I prefer to give myself food poisoning.

• 36:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure.

• 36:03Jessie Ware?

  Lobster.

• 36:04Speaker 03

  There's a great place in Miami, I might change it. There's a great place in Miami called Joe's Stone Crabs.

• 36:10Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 36:10Speaker 03

  And they're open seasonally. So when it's not stone crab season, they're just closed. But growing up, we'd go to Miami to visit my family. And they would take us to Joe's Stone Crabs. My grandfather would slip the maître d' a twenty and get us a table. A nice table. And it was, they are the most delicious thing in drawn butter and hot, hot delicious drawn butter. You've got these beautiful stone crab claws. It's very good. But now you can, with gold belly, do you have gold belly here?

• 36:42Jessie Ware?

  No, but, but I know what gold belly is.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  Them, you can.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  What's gold belly?

• 36:46Speaker 03

  It's like a, a food shipping.

• 36:49Jessie Ware?

  Russ and daughters, you can send babkas across the states.

• 36:53Speaker 03

  That's right. That's exactly how I learned about it was through Russ and daughters. The babkas.

• 36:57Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, so good.

• 36:58Speaker 03

  You do bring up a good point. Lox and bagels, like a good proper nova, lox and bagel.

• 37:05Jessie Ware?

  With the onion.

• 37:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. There's an incredible place in Los Angeles called Courage Bagels.

• 37:09Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I know about it. Yeah.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  I, who, you, it's so long, who's got time?

• 37:14Speaker 03

  The, um, one of my friends, uh, who lives in the neighborhood, she just goes and picks it up for me. I can't be bothered.

• 37:19Jessie Ware?

  I, I was watching the studio the other night and they even referenced Courage Bagels. Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna get Courage Bagels. And I'm like, wow.

• 37:26Speaker 03

  Shit, it's all over, isn't it?

• 37:28Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 37:28Speaker 03

  Damn it. Someone was telling me that the reason why those bagels in particular are so good is it's, um, it's a Montreal style bagel, which I think is more, um, sourdough forward. It's not a typical bagel.

• 37:42Jessie Ware?

  No, it's, I wouldn't, I would, well, it's a loose, I, it's delicious.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:47Speaker 02

  No.

• 37:48Jessie Ware?

  But it doesn't feel like a New York bagel or a Manchester one.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  Manchester bagels are the best.

• 37:52Jessie Ware?

  Are they?

• 37:53Speaker 02

  They've got to be crispy on the outside, but really chewy.

• 37:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:57Jessie Ware?

  I like a New York bagel.

• 37:58Speaker 02

  Slightly sweet.

• 37:59Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:00Speaker 03

  What's your favorite bagel flavor?

• 38:02Speaker 02

  Oh, no, just plain.

• 38:03Speaker 03

  Oh, like.

• 38:04Jessie Ware?

  Nothing else, I know.

• 38:04Speaker 03

  Everything.

• 38:05Speaker 02

  You like everything. No, I like plain.

• 38:07Speaker 03

  Courage does burnt everything.

• 38:09Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 38:10Speaker 03

  Not really burnt, but it, it's, yeah.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  But you like the oniony burnt, don't you?

• 38:15Jessie Ware?

  I do.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  I know.

• 38:16Speaker 03

  My kids like plain, but growing up, I liked a raisin bagel.

• 38:20Jessie Ware?

  Mmm.

• 38:21Speaker 03

  People really think you're weird when you like a raisin bagel. I love it.

• 38:25Jessie Ware?

  I love it too. There's this like, this bagel company.

• 38:28Speaker 03

  Interested.

• 38:28Jessie Ware?

  No, this is big company that basically, they're not proper bagels. They never go off. So you're, and your children, my children love it. Cause it's got loads of additives in it and they do a raisin cinnamon one and it's perfect with a bit of cream cheese after school. Gorgeous. So we've got a bagel for starter.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  Um, I think let's do a bagel for starter and then we'll.

• 38:47Jessie Ware?

  We could do the lobster roll with it, like.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  Lobster roll with it and then, but we still have to get the stone crabs in there.

• 38:52Jessie Ware?

  Okay. Oh, yeah.

• 38:53Speaker 03

  This is a lot of seafood.

• 38:55Jessie Ware?

  Mmm.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  Seafood.

• 38:56Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  Great.

• 38:57Jessie Ware?

  My, what was your mom's heritage? Which was, was she Caribbean?

• 39:01Speaker 03

  No, African American, black. She's from Chicago.

• 39:06Jessie Ware?

  From Chicago.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  I don't remember my mother ever cooking.

• 39:09Jessie Ware?

  Okay, but she was taking you to health food shops.

• 39:11Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. But I'm sure she did cook. I, I mean, my mom died when I was seven. I was very little.

• 39:17Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  And I do think she did cook. My dad said she would always be in the kitchen for Thanksgiving and stuff, but I was so little.

• 39:24Jessie Ware?

  But what about your grandparents on her side?

• 39:27Speaker 03

  My grandmother, well, I never really, I don't remember.

• 39:31Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 39:32Speaker 03

  I don't remember eating, actually that's not true. I remember going to Chicago and I was fascinated by all the food on the table. And they always ate bread with their meals. And I was always like, oh, was that a thing? People will be like, pass the bread. But, but I mean, like sliced bread, which is like pieces of bread. I didn't, I mean, we were eating like puffed rice and tiger milk bars and, I don't know, chicken enchiladas.

• 39:57Jessie Ware?

  What a tiger milk bar.

• 39:59Speaker 03

  Exactly. It's like the closest thing to like a chocolate bar, but it's carob.

• 40:05Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 40:06Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 40:06Jessie Ware?

  My husband's grandma used to only cook with carob.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  Oh, carob's gross.

• 40:11Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. Oh my god, why? It's like a kind of chocolate replacement.

• 40:14Speaker 03

  It's like a chocolate replacement and there's nothing wrong with chocolate.

• 40:17Jessie Ware?

  But why would they want to replace it?

• 40:19Speaker 03

  I think they thought it was unhealthy or maybe the sugar.

• 40:22Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  Sugar.

• 40:23Jessie Ware?

  So, okay, um, have you got a sweet tooth much?

• 40:27Speaker 03

  No, I do have a sweet tooth for very specific things, but I don't like candy. I like baked goods. I like pie more than cake because I love a crust.

• 40:37Jessie Ware?

  Well, this is great.

• 40:38Speaker 03

  I know, I heard that you're making something like that.

• 40:41Speaker 02

  I made a miso pecan apple tart tatin.

• 40:45Jessie Ware?

  I love tart tatin.

• 40:46Speaker 02

  Well.

• 40:47Speaker 03

  Did you know that?

• 40:48Speaker 02

  No, I didn't.

• 40:49Speaker 03

  I love tart tatin so much.

• 40:51Jessie Ware?

  Her legs are wriggling.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  So I was gonna do a plain apple one and then I thought, I saw this recipe with pecan and miso in it and I thought that might taste nice.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  So what does the miso do in a, in a?

• 41:04Speaker 02

  I think it.

• 41:04Speaker 03

  Dessert.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  Salties up the caramel a bit.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  Nice. I've noticed a lot of, yeah, ooh mommy, ooh mommy.

• 41:12Jessie Ware?

  Mmm, ooh mommy.

• 41:14Speaker 02

  I didn't even know what the word meant.

• 41:17Speaker 03

  It's, it's like a flavor.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. Do you like marmite? Have you ever tasted marmite?

• 41:21Speaker 03

  I hate it, but my husband loves it. I shouldn't say I hate it. I've, I've tried it and I'm not there. I, I'm totally open to things that people love.

• 41:30Jessie Ware?

  How did you eat it?

• 41:32Speaker 03

  I think it was toast.

• 41:33Jessie Ware?

  Okay, can I suggest a new way of doing it? Do you like peanut butter?

• 41:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:36Jessie Ware?

  So if you try a little thin layer of marmite, ease yourself in, crunchy peanut butter.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  Love it.

• 41:42Jessie Ware?

  Grated, sharp cheddar cheese.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  Oh, that sounds good.

• 41:46Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I bet I would like that. I think, just try it, trust me.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  I bet I would like that. My husband loves marmite and has, like personalized jars. He loves it. It's just intense.

• 41:58Jessie Ware?

  We know what to get him for Christmas.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Where's your, is your husband American?

• 42:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I think his soul is English. He loves it here. Yeah.

• 42:06Speaker 02

  Do you think you need a house here?

• 42:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I do.

• 42:08Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. So you like, you like a crust, you like a baked good.

• 42:12Speaker 03

  But I also, I also like an ice cream, but I don't wanna be complicated. I don't like my ice cream with my pie.

• 42:18Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 42:19Speaker 03

  I like them to be separate. Yeah, I like them to be separate.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  The pie first or the ice cream?

• 42:24Speaker 03

  Doesn't matter. I just don't like when people put it on top. Unless there's a cobbler. If it's a cobbler, sure.

• 42:30Jessie Ware?

  God, you're sounding a bit fussy.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  I know, I know. I think it's because I don't like ice cream to be runny. It kind of seems, it's a little gross.

• 42:38Jessie Ware?

  Does this mean that you don't like cream?

• 42:40Speaker 03

  No, I love cream.

• 42:41Jessie Ware?

  You just don't like the sweet ice cream to be runny. You like it in its its solid form.

• 42:45Speaker 02

  See, I like the ice cream, the cold with the hot.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  You like the cold with the hot?

• 42:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:50Speaker 03

  I think my mouth does not like that.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  Do you think that?

• 42:52Jessie Ware?

  I like the combo. I like the bit of runny and the bit of.

• 42:56Speaker 02

  Oh, see, I'm not keen on the runny. I like quite like it firm.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  Keen on the runny. I quite like it firm.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  Hmm, yeah.

• 43:04Speaker 03

  I say that's what she said all day, every day. I'm like, it really, because it's so stupid.

• 43:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:11Speaker 03

  And I like to misuse it. I do it a lot with my friend Rachel Dratch and she, because she groans if she hates, if she hates a bad joke, she groans. And I love it. And so anytime I get the chance, I misuse. That's what she said. And she goes, oh.

• 43:25Jessie Ware?

  Then you can say it again.

• 43:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:27Jessie Ware?

  As well as you said.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Is that as good as the actress said to the bishop?

• 43:29Jessie Ware?

  Well, yours is as the actress said to the bishop.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  Oh, you say it all the time?

• 43:33Speaker 02

  All the time. It would be on my tunes.

• 43:35Jessie Ware?

  With the similar, with the similar.

• 43:38Speaker 03

  I love that. I have heard that, but now that, now that I know that it's yours, I like it more.

• 43:46Speaker 03

  And you're just gonna think of, think of you saying it. Are you good? Can you get around?

• 43:49Jessie Ware?

  I, I, I say it and I basically.

• 43:52Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 43:53Jessie Ware?

  I, I know I'm being quite cringe.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:56Jessie Ware?

  I don't care. It tickles me every time.

• 43:58Speaker 03

  It's funny because it's stupid.

• 44:00Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 44:01Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 44:02Jessie Ware?

  And I kind of feel like Steve Carell in the moment.

• 44:04Speaker 03

  That's what it's for. It's meant to make people cringe.

• 44:07Jessie Ware?

  So it's like, we're being like the American waiters that like clear your plates before you finish. No, sorry.

• 44:13Speaker 03

  Very American?

• 44:14Jessie Ware?

  So American. It drives us mad.

• 44:16Speaker 03

  I hate it. Do you go there a lot?

• 44:18Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. If I'm touring, so I'm a singer and then I tour.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  I know you're a singer.

• 44:22Jessie Ware?

  Oh, you're sweet. And I have to say, your mum's like rotary connection and your, your mum's records is like all that inspires me.

• 44:29Speaker 03

  You're kidding.

• 44:30Jessie Ware?

  For this new record. So I'll send it to you and it's done. And then you'll be like, you need to back off, babe. You need to back off.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 44:35Jessie Ware?

  No, it's completely inspiring.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  That's so cool to hear. They just did a really beautiful tribute show for my mum last week in L A. At the Hollywood Bowl.

• 44:45Jessie Ware?

  Oh, wow.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  It's been fifty years since her album, Since Perfect Angel came out, which is.

• 44:49Jessie Ware?

  Amazing. Wow.

• 44:50Speaker 03

  Crazy.

• 44:51Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 44:51Speaker 03

  Fifty years. But it's also so interesting because.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  She's sort of a time capsule, right? Because her stuff is such a specific era.

• 45:02Jessie Ware?

  Hmm.

• 45:03Speaker 03

  But Rotary Connection stuff is incredible. And did you ever hear of her solo stuff?

• 45:09Jessie Ware?

  Who's solo stuff?

• 45:10Speaker 03

  From, I mean, before she was, I guess, around the time of Rotary Connection. Yeah. She has a solo record called Come To My Garden. It's really beautiful.

• 45:18Jessie Ware?

  Yes, yes. That's with Le Fleur.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:20Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, that's all I reference all the time.

• 45:23Speaker 03

  Really?

• 45:24Jessie Ware?

  It's all, because it's got the right amount of dramatics for me.

• 45:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:28Jessie Ware?

  And I, and that's what I love about Rotary Connection as well, the kind of drama and the kind of musicality and the ensemble of it all. And that's kind of my favorite thing to do.

• 45:36Speaker 03

  It's that Charles Stepney orchestral stuff.

• 45:38Jessie Ware?

  Oh, so good.

• 45:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's beautiful.

• 45:40Jessie Ware?

  But anyway, I just had to say, and I, yeah, but like, yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 03

  I love that.

• 45:43Jessie Ware?

  No, it's like, and also like the iconic, like her just having a lion in her photo shoot.

• 45:48Speaker 03

  Do you do nuts? I remember going to that photo shoot.

• 45:51Jessie Ware?

  Really?

• 45:51Speaker 03

  Well, they had to recreate it for like a commercial or something. And so I remember my, my brother and I went and we had just gotten ice cream. And we watched her sitting there, but they got a different lion for the second shoot.

• 46:04Jessie Ware?

  Wasn't it a taxidermy lion? Cause the lion was like, that's mental.

• 46:08Speaker 03

  I know.

• 46:09Jessie Ware?

  Whose idea was that?

• 46:10Speaker 03

  I'm not idea. Probably hers.

• 46:13Jessie Ware?

  Love that.

• 46:14Speaker 03

  She's a cool lady. Really cool.

• 46:17Jessie Ware?

  So you were just there to go and see, kind of see mum at work, but mostly see the lion. She was like, kids, you're coming to work.

• 46:22Speaker 03

  Totally.

• 46:23Jessie Ware?

  Do you remember the lion?

• 46:24Speaker 03

  I do.

• 46:25Jessie Ware?

  Was he friendly?

• 46:27Speaker 03

  Well, that particular day, he pounced at her.

• 46:29Jessie Ware?

  Oh, what?

• 46:32Speaker 03

  Not the one on the record, but when they recreated it for the promo, whatever. He jumped, but he didn't have any claws. So they, she was okay.

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• 47:25Speaker 02

  So we've got the darkest dessert I've ever seen.

• 47:28Jessie Ware?

  But it doesn't taste burnt.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  No, it doesn't, weirdly.

• 47:31Speaker 03

  Maybe you can just say it's like a Halloween.

• 47:34Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 47:34Speaker 03

  Dessert.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Does look like Halloween.

• 47:36Jessie Ware?

  Why has it gone black though? I think it's the, I think it's the pot.

• 47:40Speaker 02

  I don't think it's brown, it's not the pot.

• 47:43Jessie Ware?

  For me, I'd say it's black, Maya. I think, you don't think it's a little bit brown? I, I, I'd say it's charcoal. Yeah, I would love some.

• 47:50Speaker 02

  All right, charcoal, yeah. Do you think it tastes burnt, darling?

• 47:52Jessie Ware?

  Um, no, I don't. It's really strange how that's happened.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  It's got this colour.

• 47:57Speaker 03

  Mmm, mmm.

• 47:58Jessie Ware?

  That's good.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  It's really good.

• 48:00Speaker 02

  It's actually gorgeous.

• 48:02Speaker 03

  I love.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  A baked apple.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  The optics aren't good though, are they?

• 48:08Jessie Ware?

  I've been having baked apples though.

• 48:09Speaker 02

  The optics. Are these your apples?

• 48:12Jessie Ware?

  They're not. That would be too wholesome, wouldn't it? For today, I've done, I have done, I've, I've exhausted the apples in my garden. Can I ask whether it was your idea to have the Fonz?

• 48:23Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 48:24Jessie Ware?

  Because you're an exec on this, right? Like, are you just like, I'm gonna have this person, this person. Wouldn't that be a great idea to have?

• 48:31Speaker 03

  I mean, it's always the dream to have the people that you want. And when they say yes, it's the dream come true. I was so in love with the Fonz growing up. I wanted him to be my husband. And.

• 48:44Jessie Ware?

  Is that why you made him naked in your episode?

• 48:47Speaker 02

  But we all did. How can he get older?

• 48:50Speaker 03

  I know.

• 48:51Speaker 02

  It's just so unfair. He should stay the same age as we loved him.

• 48:55Speaker 03

  He is the most delightful human being on the planet.

• 48:58Jessie Ware?

  Henry, what's his name?

• 48:59Speaker 03

  Henry Winkler. Henry Winkler. And the first time I ever worked with him, he brought the best chocolate cake. And he said, I like to bring gifts for people. And my friend Ricardo makes the best chocolate cake. So I hadn't seen him in years. He came to our show and I said, do you know what I think about sometimes? I think about that chocolate cake he brought and how beautiful that was that you did that. So the last day he was shooting, he brought me a chocolate cake.

• 49:26Jessie Ware?

  What a gem.

• 49:27Speaker 03

  He's the menshiest mensch of all mensches.

• 49:30Jessie Ware?

  I love that.

• 49:30Speaker 03

  Ayy. That's all he would say. Ayy. Give him a thumbs up. Or he'd hit the jukebox and it would start to play. Yeah, I dressed up, um. He had a girlfriend named Pinky Tuskadero and she was Pinky Tuskadero.

• 49:47Jessie Ware?

  What a name.

• 49:48Speaker 03

  I know, well, on the show.

• 49:50Jessie Ware?

  Oh, right. I was, yeah.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  It was a fictional character, but they they had a demolition derby where they drove cars backwards and smashed into each other and she had a pink cask because she was pinky. She wore all pink. So I used to wrap my arm with a paper towel and play and ride my big wheel in my driveway and pretend I was the Fonz's wife.

• 50:12Speaker 03

  I love him. God, I mean, that's the that's the joy of like being a grown up and getting to execute things that you actually care about. You say like, wouldn't it be great if I had one of my favorite human beings in the world on the show? Like, that would be nice. And luckily, they say, sometimes they say yes.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  You're an imitation supremo. Who are you going to, who haven't you imitated yet that you think you might like to?

• 50:41Speaker 02

  Do you do English ones?

• 50:43Speaker 03

  I did Kate Moss for fun the other day.

• 50:45Jessie Ware?

  Oh, did you? How did that go?

• 50:47Speaker 03

  It was really fun. I love her.

• 50:49Jessie Ware?

  Where did you do it?

• 50:51Speaker 03

  Like in the car.

• 50:52Jessie Ware?

  Can you give it to us now?

• 50:54Speaker 02

  It's kind of a, yeah.

• 50:58Speaker 03

  Well, I did. I met I met her last time I was here and she's so lovely and she was so kind to me. And I realize the reason why I do her is because when I'm retelling a story, I retell it in the person's voice. So I wasn't really like doing an imitation of her, but I think. And by the way, I don't think that I resemble Kate Moss, so I don't think there's going to be an opportunity to be a player, but maybe if there's an animated Kate Moss show, I don't know.

• 51:25Jessie Ware?

  Hold on, do you think you represent, do you think, hold on, do you think you look like Christina Aguilera?

• 51:30Speaker 03

  No, I do not. I mean, that's the beauty of being on SNL when I was on it is that I felt like I could. I've always felt like I can be anyone or do anything and I was able to write things and do that. Like, I don't look like Donatella Versace. But it was so fun. It was so fun.

• 51:48Jessie Ware?

  Okay, so.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  So act a Kate.

• 51:50Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, are we gonna get a Kate?

• 51:52Speaker 02

  Go on, quick one.

• 51:53Speaker 03

  Oh shit.

• 51:54Jessie Ware?

  Warming up.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  I'm warming up my lips.

• 51:59Jessie Ware?

  You warm up your lips?

• 52:00Speaker 03

  No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I don't do any of that.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  She's a trumpeter, darling.

• 52:04Speaker 03

  Is that what they do?

• 52:06Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, they do it after they've performed as well. So it's really.

• 52:09Speaker 03

  Bless them. I had grass on something the other day. Really? She was going. Who did that?

• 52:16Jessie Ware?

  The lovely trumpeter player. It was her warming down, but she and I went, you're all right, babe. She went, oh, God, I'm so sorry. I just have to like.

• 52:22Speaker 03

  Warming down?

• 52:23Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, cool down.

• 52:24Speaker 03

  So it's like a stretch.

• 52:25Jessie Ware?

  Stretching after. It sounded like terrible diarrhea.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  What? So.

• 52:30Jessie Ware?

  It was kind of like, honestly, and I said, you're all right. She went, oh, God, I don't even realize I'm doing it because she has to.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  I understand warming up, but warming down? Do you warm down when you sing?

• 52:40Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:40Speaker 03

  Oh, you're so professional.

• 52:43Jessie Ware?

  I've learned the hard way, though.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:46Jessie Ware?

  It's like, I mean, I'm gonna compare myself to a hundred meter sprinter right now, so.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  Wow, Jess.

• 52:53Jessie Ware?

  You know, you run.

• 52:53Speaker 02

  Same way.

• 52:54Jessie Ware?

  You know, they don't just stop, do they? Usain Bolt and Jessie Ware, they don't just stop after the performance. We just take it easy. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway, back to Kate.

• 53:04Speaker 03

  No, it's good to. It's good to do that. It's good for you. Okay, fine. Back to Kate. Okay, God. All I remember, I was so starstruck and so excited because I've I've loved Kate Moss since she was on the cover of The Face, God knows how long ago, and she was so young. I mean, I love her. Oh, God, this is so embarrassing. I don't do impressions when people ask me to, by the way. No, I'm just letting you know I'm doing it for you because I love you.

• 53:28Jessie Ware?

  Okay, that's really, we appreciate it.

• 53:30Speaker 03

  I really, this is just all love.

• 53:32Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 53:32Speaker 03

  So I so I met her and she she was like, when she went like that and she goes, I love you. That's it.

• 53:41Speaker 03

  But I do. I love her so much.

• 53:43Speaker 02

  On the on the podcast.

• 53:44Jessie Ware?

  Will you have her?

• 53:45Speaker 02

  Well, I'll try.

• 53:46Jessie Ware?

  I hope she can do me.

• 53:47Speaker 02

  Get her to imitate you.

• 53:48Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. Oh, I love you. Um, Maya, before we let you go, I don't really want to because I'm really enjoying.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  I'm really enjoying this too and I, I know it's really nice.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  It wasn't burnt, was it?

• 53:58Speaker 03

  No, it was really.

• 53:59Jessie Ware?

  It is an odd colour.

• 54:00Speaker 03

  Really nice.

• 54:01Speaker 02

  I couldn't cook it. I mean, you wouldn't want to serve that normally.

• 54:04Speaker 03

  I toured with a band when I was in college and we opened up for Blur back in the day.

• 54:09Jessie Ware?

  Wow, what was the band called?

• 54:10Speaker 03

  Uh, The Rentals. And it was, it was the American band, uh, this guy Matt Sharp, it was his band, he played in Weezer and. I was like a keyboard player.

• 54:19Jessie Ware?

  Oh, she plays keyboard too. There we go.

• 54:21Speaker 03

  Not drums. I'm not a drummer.

• 54:22Jessie Ware?

  You know what my grandma would say? And in her spare time, she's a teapot. You do everything.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  I, I just have always wanted to do everything, but I do get frustrated if I'm not really good at something that's not, that's, I gotta chill out.

• 54:35Speaker 03

  I wanna be like an, I wanna be like a chef, like a phenomenal.

• 54:40Jessie Ware?

  Incredible.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  But I'm good. I'm good when I try, but I don't try all the time.

• 54:45Jessie Ware?

  What's your star sign?

• 54:46Speaker 03

  I'm Leo.

• 54:47Jessie Ware?

  I don't, I can't give you anything. I don't know much about Leos. I don't know, cause I, the only thing I know about is Virgos and they're usually perfectionists.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  You know about Libra and Virgos.

• 54:57Speaker 03

  I don't think I'm a perfectionist, but I think I have OCD or something.

• 55:00Jessie Ware?

  Okay. So, sorry, back to the rentals.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  Yes. Oh, we toured with Blur, Blur for about a month.

• 55:08Jessie Ware?

  How was that?

• 55:09Speaker 03

  It was great.

• 55:10Jessie Ware?

  Did Damon behave himself?

• 55:11Speaker 03

  Damon was so nice. No, I was just saying, the reason why I said that is because they had a chef. We were kids. I mean, I was like twenty three years old. And I remember they had a chef and they were so cool and it was Graham that was. A little bit naughty.

• 55:25Jessie Ware?

  Oh, really?

• 55:26Speaker 03

  He was the one I had the crush on. And, um, the guitar player. And they had a chef and she would go, oh, Damon, I love this. It's really nice. And I just remember being like, God, that's great. I've been saying it's really nice forever, but.

• 55:41Jessie Ware?

  Really nice.

• 55:41Speaker 03

  I don't even remember who the girl was, but yeah, that was, that was the nineties.

• 55:45Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. Um, before we let you go.

• 55:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:47Jessie Ware?

  Would you be able to give us a nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere?

• 55:51Speaker 03

  Hmm, other than chicken and gelatos? Let me think. Hmm.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  Or scent. Or scent.

• 55:59Speaker 03

  Well, I'm trying to think of the first thing that came to my mind, and it's a weird one. I don't know if it's if it's right. Does it have to be homemade?

• 56:07Speaker 02

  No.

• 56:08Speaker 03

  When I was a little girl and we went to Disneyland, they would have um frozen chocolate covered banana.

• 56:16Speaker 02

  I know.

• 56:16Speaker 03

  They're incredible because they have peanuts on them.

• 56:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 56:19Speaker 03

  My daughter's allergic, so I don't get them anymore. But I don't know anywhere else that has that flavor. And you taste the cold. Do you know what I mean?

• 56:27Speaker 02

  Perfect.

• 56:28Speaker 03

  Although I got one semi recently and the girl said, be careful because they're really frozen. They must come from some huge freezer. She said, don't eat it right away. And I was like, haha. And I took a bite and I was like, did I just break my tooth?

• 56:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:39Speaker 03

  I didn't.

• 56:39Speaker 02

  Thank God.

• 56:40Speaker 03

  But it felt pretty damn close. But that, I got it because I wanted to taste being little.

• 56:47Speaker 02

  How it was.

• 56:47Speaker 03

  Yeah. Eating a chocolate covered banana.

• 56:50Speaker 02

  That's perfect.

• 56:51Speaker 03

  That's what she said.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  As the actress said to the bishop.

• 56:57Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 56:59Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 57:22Jessie Ware?

  I love Maya Rudolph. I knew I would, but I do love her.

• 57:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I want to be related to her.

• 57:28Jessie Ware?

  She kept on saying, you know, this is so lovely that you've got me in your house. And I was like.

• 57:34Speaker 02

  This is what we do.

• 57:35Jessie Ware?

  This is what we do, but you're so sweet. She was very appreciative.

• 57:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:39Jessie Ware?

  She ate all the food. She was just like a perfect guest.

• 57:43Speaker 02

  Absolutely gorgeous.

• 57:44Jessie Ware?

  What a pleasure to have Maya Rudolph in my house and cooking for her.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  She was just good, very soothing influence, I feel.

• 57:51Jessie Ware?

  Yes, I do feel like we've had like a good therapy session.

• 57:54Speaker 02

  She doesn't feel combative at all. She's so comfortable within her who she is and knows who. And I think that lack of kind of conflict actually permeated our relationship, darling.

• 58:08Jessie Ware?

  Complimented you and I.

• 58:08Speaker 02

  You think it complimented, I think, I'd like to think it permeated.

• 58:12Jessie Ware?

  I really just loved the chat.

• 58:16Jessie Ware?

  Just, she was fab. Should we talk about the black tartan? Which Maya said could be good for Halloween.

• 58:23Speaker 02

  Well, I'm I'm shocked Jess, because when I took it out, I thought, I can't bloody serve this. We're just going to have a have cream and ice cream.

• 58:30Jessie Ware?

  But it's not burnt, by the way, let me just add.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  It tastes delicious. It's not burnt, tastes delicious. I just don't understand how, why it's gone black. Do you think it was the miso?

• 58:43Jessie Ware?

  It's an, why are you blaming the miso?

• 58:45Speaker 02

  Because that's the only thing I've ever added. And when I cooked, the caramel was amber when I, and then I put the miso in. And then it started when I cooked the apples through, it did look a bit dark. Don't understand.

• 58:59Jessie Ware?

  Did you clean your pan enough?

• 59:00Speaker 02

  Darling, it was absolutely spotless. I scrubbed it before I put it on. It wa- that isn't black from the pan, because it would taste funny.

• 59:09Jessie Ware?

  Listen, taste was all there. I don't know what Paul Hollywood would say about presentation.

• 59:13Speaker 02

  I might write to him and say, poor wives did my tartan go black. I think I might.

• 59:18Jessie Ware?

  Please do, let's see if you get, or anyone else could email us and explain to Lenny why her tartan went black.

• 59:26Speaker 02

  Is it the combination of miso and sugar? I don't know. But the one that I lot at the picture.

• 59:31Jessie Ware?

  I don't think so.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  So it's very odd, because it doesn't taste burnt.

• 59:36Jessie Ware?

  But there is an aftertaste.

• 59:37Speaker 02

  No, there wasn't. No one else has tasted that. Are you sure you're not?

• 59:40Jessie Ware?

  I've got it in my teeth.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  Are you sure you're not pregnant?

• 59:42Jessie Ware?

  I hope not.

• 59:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, you might be, because aftertastes are a sign.

• 59:46Jessie Ware?

  Are they?

• 59:47Speaker 02

  Mm.

• 59:48Jessie Ware?

  Um, thank you to Maya Rudolph for coming on and being absolutely gorgeous, generous, fabulous.

• 59:55Speaker 02

  They, she must have a busy life, though, between her and her husband. And then they, and four children. Wow.

• 1:00:03Jessie Ware?

  She's a superwoman.

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:04Jessie Ware?

  Thank you to everyone that's listened and watched, and we will see you next week.

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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