Pod Insights Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware Matthew Broderick About this episode It’s week 3 of our NYC series and we’re certainly not having a day off, it’s acting legend Matthew Broderick! Star of Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, The Producers, The Lion King, and so many more, Matthew is a born and bred New Yorker so it was meant to be! We got details of his morning coffee routine, sharing the milk with his cat, what it was like working with Marlon Brando, spending time in Ireland, visiting his mum every weekend and the delicious food they ate, eating around London & New York while working on the West End & Broadway, and we find out whether Matthew or his wife SJP has a bigger wall of shoes! What a treat to be at the top of The Standard High Line with Matthew pointing out all of the best hot spots in NYC out the window, thank you so much for joining us Matthew!! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.
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2:12 Jessie Ware? Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with Mum and we're in the Boom Boom Room and it's looking glorious.
2:18 Speaker 06 The skyline of New York with all those fabulous buildings darling.
2:23 Jessie Ware? I love it. It's so fab up here.
2:25 Speaker 06 Shall we just stay here forever?
2:27 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
2:27 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:28 Jessie Ware? I'll learn the piano. You'll learn how to make a Cosmo.
2:31 Speaker 06 I will.
2:32 Jessie Ware? Today, we have a native New Yorker, a bit of a legend.
2:38 Speaker 06 He's a native New York boy.
2:40 Jessie Ware? Yeah, he is. He's been on stage over 25 times and he's also the star of an incredibly seminal iconic 80s film called Ferris Bueller's Day Off. We have Matthew Broderick coming on the podcast today. You saw him recently in a play with his wife Sarah Jessica Bahr.
3:00 Speaker 06 I saw him in classes, we were in London.
3:02 Jessie Ware? Savoy.
3:02 Speaker 06 The Savoy, the most jazz theatre. And he was completely wonderful. I wonder if he's a commode, like he was in the play.
3:11 Jessie Ware? He's also played Arthur Sackler in Painkiller on Netflix. He was a brilliant therapist in Better Things, one of my favourite shows.
3:21 Speaker 06 He was in The Producers on Broadway with Nathan Lane.
3:24 Jessie Ware? Absolutely. He's done everything. When I've told people that we've got Matthew Broderick on this season, I feel like he's got like...
3:31 Speaker 06 He's got the wow factor.
3:33 Jessie Ware? He's got a lot of people being like, "Oh my goodness."
3:36 Speaker 06 Wow.
3:36 Jessie Ware? Wow. So he's coming over to the Standard High Line and we're going to have a chat. And what's on the menu today Mum?
3:43 Speaker 06 Oh, I've done salmon with that...
3:46 Jessie Ware? Kumquat cosho.
3:49 Speaker 06 Where does the word cosho come from?
3:50 Jessie Ware? I don't know.
3:51 Speaker 06 I think it just means cover or something.
3:53 Jessie Ware? Really?
3:54 Speaker 06 I don't know.
3:54 Jessie Ware? But let's talk about where we got it from. It's from this fantastic spice place called SOS Chefs.
4:00 Speaker 06 Yeah.
4:01 Jessie Ware? It's in the East Village and Atef runs it, I think with her family. And she's the most gorgeous, charming, fabulous woman.
4:09 Speaker 06 Yeah.
4:10 Jessie Ware? And we all went there at the weekend on our lovely day out with Benny Blanco, with Jake Cohen, with a load of people.
4:17 Speaker 06 And her husband, who works in shot with her, gave me a little spoonful of this Kumquat cosho. And I said, "Oh gosh, it's so delicious. What shall I use it for?" He said, "Just put it on fish." So I thought, "Well, have a go with the salmon." And we've also got Jake Cohen's fabulous potato salad.
4:36 Jessie Ware? Yes, from his new cookbook Dinner Party Animal.
4:39 Speaker 06 Yes, and he made it really.
4:41 Jessie Ware? He's not just a sweet boy.
4:42 Speaker 06 No.
4:43 Jessie Ware? He does savoury too, and sides.
4:45 Speaker 06 Well, Jessie, we're lucky we got some salmon, because the man who was serving me was a very resentful assistant. And I asked him what was wrong with him.
4:55 Jessie Ware? Mm.
4:55 Speaker 06 Was he upset about something? And he grunted at me. And I wasn't even confident about the size of the salmon, but I was too frightened to ask him to change it. So I hope it works. Jessie, he was very threatening.
5:11 Speaker 06 Yeah, he was scary.
5:12 Jessie Ware? Oh, so we've got a load of salmon?
5:14 Speaker 06 No, I think, I hope we've got enough.
5:16 Jessie Ware? Oh.
5:17 Speaker 06 Never knowingly under cater.
5:19 Jessie Ware? And then for pudding.
5:20 Speaker 06 Yeah.
5:21 Jessie Ware? Jake Cohen has done something from his Dinner Party Animal cookbook. They are lemon and almond.
5:27 Speaker 06 Blondies.
5:27 Jessie Ware? Blondies with sumac, um, but he likes to call them the platinum blondies.
5:32 Speaker 06 Well, I didn't know what a blondie was.
5:34 Jessie Ware? Really?
5:35 Speaker 06 Well, I th- I wonder if they were opposite of a brownie, a blondie? But these are, it's like, they're not as fudgy as a brownie.
5:43 Jessie Ware? No, that's probably because of the almond, right?
5:44 Speaker 06 Yeah.
5:45 Jessie Ware? And, yeah, um, so they look delicious. And, uh, yeah, Matthew Broderick is coming up on Table manners, the New York special.
6:01 Speaker 06 Matthew, we're so excited to meet you and have you on our podcast. Welcome, Matthew Broderick.
6:07 Speaker 07 Thank you very much. Very excited to be here.
6:09 Jessie Ware? Did you grow up in Greenwich Village?
6:11 Speaker 07 I did.
6:12 Jessie Ware? How fabulous.
6:13 Speaker 07 Yeah.
6:14 Jessie Ware? And that's just kind of down the road, isn't it?
6:16 Speaker 07 Yes, this would be like the west, this is called the Meatpacking District, and then there'd be the West Village, and then there'd be the middle of the village, that way, which is where I li- where I grew up, where I was born. I was born on Fifth Avenue and Ninth Street. And then I moved a block to, or two blocks, to Washington Square.
6:39 Speaker 07 And then I grew up and moved about five blocks. Then I got married and moved about three blocks. So.
6:48 Speaker 06 So you don't go far away from your original zip code?
6:51 Speaker 07 No, I don't seem to. And I sometimes think, boy, maybe I should have, you know, that would have been nice.
6:58 Speaker 06 Do you think?
6:58 Speaker 07 I I don't know. I don't seem to get more than about a quarter of a mile from.
7:04 Jessie Ware? Times Square when you're doing Broadway.
7:05 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah.
7:06 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
7:06 Speaker 07 No, I will, or a dentist, I'll go uptown.
7:09 Jessie Ware? Yeah, everyone's gynecologists and dentists are all uptown.
7:11 Speaker 07 Got to go up there. Got to even go east sometimes, which is hard.
7:15 Jessie Ware? Oh, I'm sorry.
7:16 Speaker 07 Yeah, no, I I get all over the city, but I live down here.
7:20 Jessie Ware? Now, we're kind of kind of jump back and forth, but I saw that you and your wife, who we adore, um, were taking the Underground quite a lot when you were doing Plaza Suite.
7:31 Speaker 07 Yeah.
7:32 Jessie Ware? Do you take the subway here?
7:33 Speaker 07 I do. Yeah, I take it all the time. I also use city bikes a lot, which are very convenient.
7:39 Jessie Ware? Are they sluggish here, or have they got a little bit of a motor in there?
7:42 Speaker 07 They have, you can choose.
7:44 Jessie Ware? Oh.
7:44 Speaker 07 A sluggish one or one with a motor in it.
7:47 Jessie Ware? What do you go for, Matthew?
7:48 Speaker 07 The motor.
7:48 Jessie Ware? Yeah, me too.
7:49 Speaker 07 Lazy.
7:49 Speaker 06 So I saw you in Plaza Suite.
7:51 Speaker 07 Oh, you did.
7:52 Speaker 06 Which I loved.
7:53 Speaker 07 Oh, thank you.
7:54 Speaker 06 And I'm surprised you're rather sunny. You're not miserable or a philanderer, I don't think.
8:00 Speaker 07 No, sometimes when I'm saying other people's lines, it's not really me.
8:04 Speaker 06 It's funny that, yeah, no. It was great. Did you enjoy it?
8:08 Speaker 07 I did enjoy it, yeah. It was very enjoyable. It's a very funny old play, I think, and, uh, you know, me and my wife have never really worked together before. But that went very smoothly.
8:20 Jessie Ware? So maybe you'll do it again?
8:21 Speaker 07 Maybe, yeah. Yeah, we'd like to.
8:24 Jessie Ware? Theatre?
8:26 Jessie Ware? London?
8:26 Speaker 07 Yeah, yeah, sure.
8:28 Speaker 06 Yeah, come back.
8:29 Speaker 07 I love being there.
8:29 Speaker 06 We loved it.
8:30 Speaker 07 I love being there.
8:31 Speaker 06 And that that theatre is so gorgeous.
8:33 Speaker 07 The Savoy, yeah.
8:34 Speaker 06 Yeah, such a great.
8:35 Speaker 07 You go downstairs.
8:35 Jessie Ware? How many times did you have afternoon tea at the Savoy?
8:39 Speaker 07 Um, several. And we had a lot of time, we would go afterwards up to the bar, whichever that one that that's called, I forget. You go up some stairs and there's a beautiful little piano bar where we went a lot.
8:52 Speaker 06 Good cocktails as well.
8:53 Jessie Ware? Is that one, if you're in the entrance and you go left?
8:55 Speaker 07 You go to the left and you go down up some stairs.
8:58 Jessie Ware? I, I feel like we're in New York when we're there.
9:01 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah, yeah.
9:02 Jessie Ware? That's like the closest I feel like we get to New York.
9:04 Speaker 07 That's why we ended up there, maybe, yeah. It seemed like it was only two blocks from where I was born, so I was gravitated.
9:11 Jessie Ware? What was your order at the American Bar?
9:13 Speaker 07 We would be very hungry after the show, so we would get whatever they had. And it was like little things, like little sausages and uh little egg, everything was little. A little egg roll, you know.
9:26 Speaker 06 That's England for you.
9:26 Speaker 07 Even if it was a lamb chop, it was about an inch long. And uh, and we would nibble at all those things and then get home and eat more, as I recall. Cause you're very hungry after, after a show. You find that?
9:40 Jessie Ware? So, so I sing when I'm not doing, eating on a, I mean, I eat all the time, but like, um. I've kind of trained myself and I don't know whether it's because I'm a sad female pop star that I'm like, I won't eat after a show.
9:53 Speaker 06 Why?
9:53 Jessie Ware? I like, will have a drink, maybe a whiskey or something. I don't know, because like, I'm always on a fucking diet. I don't know.
9:59 Speaker 06 But you also eat at five o'clock.
10:01 Jessie Ware? I'm like, I get really pedantic when I'm on tour. It's like, no dairy, no like, I'm, I'm so boring. And so I have to eat so early before a show, otherwise I'm like burping it up on. And then I'm, I care too much about my, I'm basically a neurotic. And so I care about me.
10:20 Speaker 07 Sounds like you're a professional.
10:21 Jessie Ware? I'm a Jew, that's what I am, but like.
10:22 Speaker 07 I am too, I have, half a Jew.
10:24 Jessie Ware? Yeah, I, I feel like I'm so neurotic about it and actually we've got Jonathan Groff on and it's the day of his press night. And he's, he's done no dietary's. And I'm like, how, we shouldn't give him dairy, because what if he can't sing the, they'll, they'll be like, no, Phil, a drink, a drink, whatever.
10:41 Speaker 07 Yeah, I guess I'm a little like that. I don't, I'm not very careful about that. But I certainly know a lot of people who are. Somebody asked Ethel Merman if, what would she do to warm up her voice before a show? And she said, that's why they wrote the first number.
10:58 Speaker 07 That's a great one. Yeah.
11:00 Jessie Ware? Can we go back to Greenwich Village and who was around the dinner table? Who was cooking and what were you eating?
11:08 Speaker 07 Yeah, well, let's see, I have two sisters older than me. My older sister is like 11 years older than me, so she would be gone by the time I was eight or something, whenever that, whenever you go to college, yeah. Uh, 11 from 17. Are you the baby then? Yes. So it would either be the two of us or me and my, uh, middle sister Janet. If it was a weeknight, we had a, a housekeeper who often did the cooking, actually, um, named Sally McFall, who was a very excellent cook.
11:42 Jessie Ware? What was your favorite dish of Sally's?
11:45 Speaker 07 She could, she was one of those people who could make, she could do anything. She could make very simple things or, uh, later very complicated things. But she had that touch that people have where there's no recipes and she can't explain to you if you say, how do you, how do you make that ratatouille? Do you say, you know, you put this things that go in ratatouille in and it's what things? You know, eggplant and she didn't really, but she had a gift, you know, she was just, uh, everything tasted great. Did she come from New York? She came from North Carolina. See, every different area has different cuisine specialties, really. So she was, um, yeah, she cooked southern, you know, I guess soul food you would say would probably be her.
12:28 Speaker 07 But she could do anything, like I said, like, cause she was at our house, she learned how to make matzo ball soup for my mom or, uh, later she, she went to catering school and worked for a caterer. So she really loved cooking and she got very serious later in her life. Uh, but then we would have pretty simple regular food, I guess. And my mom would cook fancier things once in a while. Does she have dinner parties? Uh, yes, sometimes, not that often. It was a lot of tension if there was cooking for a.
12:58 Speaker 06 There's never tension.
12:59 Jessie Ware? Tell me about it. Every day, now we've created a, like, you know, a podcast. She had a fight with a man in Whole Foods today.
13:06 Speaker 07 What did you fight about?
13:07 Speaker 06 Well, I went in and the guy looked at us and as if he didn't want to be there. And I said, could I have some salmon? And he said, he went, so I said, oh, I think that's a bit too big. So he cut it in half and I was too frightened to ask him.
13:23 Jessie Ware? I don't believe you were ever too frightened to say.
13:26 Speaker 06 He was scary.
13:28 Jessie Ware? He was scary.
13:28 Speaker 06 Yeah, he was awful. So I just looked and I said, are you having a bad day? What's the matter? And he went.
13:36 Jessie Ware? So he actually didn't say anything to you, you complained about?
13:39 Speaker 06 No, but he was very threatening. He.
13:42 Jessie Ware? Well, I couldn't.
13:43 Speaker 07 Jeez.
13:43 Speaker 06 Yeah, he was just really bad.
13:45 Jessie Ware? Salmon with a side of hostility.
13:48 Speaker 07 I apologize on behalf of my nation and city. It means a lot when there's a nice person, you know, fish and meat. It's someone they say they tell you what to get.
13:57 Speaker 06 Yeah.
13:58 Speaker 07 How to cook it. I like that.
14:00 Speaker 06 Do you have a particular deli or store that you go to?
14:04 Jessie Ware? Because you cook quite a lot, don't you?
14:05 Speaker 07 We do cook a fair amount.
14:06 Jessie Ware? Which is unusual for New Yorkers.
14:09 Speaker 06 Yeah, I thought they use their oven to store their china.
14:11 Speaker 07 I guess it is. Well, you know, nowadays, a lot of people, of course, use DoorDash. I don't know if you have that, but, you know, where a guy comes on a bike.
14:21 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
14:22 Speaker 06 Okay.
14:22 Speaker 07 And leaves the food and you don't even have to see them.
14:24 Speaker 06 Yeah.
14:25 Speaker 07 The food. That's how my kids kind of eat when we're not around.
14:28 Speaker 06 They just order.
14:29 Speaker 07 Yeah, because I get the bill on my, my phone lights up and it says DoorDash, forty nine fifty, you know.
14:36 Speaker 06 What's their regular order?
14:38 Speaker 07 It doesn't always tell me what they've ordered.
14:40 Speaker 06 Oh, okay.
14:41 Speaker 07 Which is probably lucky, but they order Mexican, they order everything.
14:48 Speaker 06 Everything.
14:48 Speaker 07 Sushi. I mean, they live quite a life.
14:51 Speaker 06 Do you order coffee in the morning?
14:53 Speaker 07 No, I make coffee.
14:54 Speaker 06 Good.
14:54 Jessie Ware? How do you make your coffee, Matthew?
14:56 Speaker 07 Well, I'm not, I'm ashamed, not ashamed, but I make an espresso.
15:01 Speaker 06 Me too. I love it.
15:02 Speaker 07 Which is cheating, I guess, but.
15:04 Jessie Ware? Is it a black coffee? Is it?
15:05 Speaker 07 No.
15:06 Jessie Ware? A little frothy milk?
15:07 Speaker 07 I put a little frothy milk in. I didn't, I now put a little sugar, which I didn't used to. Sorry, everybody.
15:13 Speaker 06 What's happened to you?
15:14 Speaker 07 I don't know, but I like it. And I use two pods.
15:19 Speaker 06 Me too.
15:20 Speaker 07 For poppy and I probably have two of those. I'm like a four pod person.
15:24 Speaker 06 Yeah, after breakfast or with?
15:26 Speaker 07 Before breakfast. That's the first thing when I wake up, I wake up, I go to the machine, I make sure there's some, I put the milk in the little milk heater.
15:35 Speaker 06 Yeah.
15:36 Speaker 07 And I now have a system where I, there's a saucer and I put a little milk there and this cat, one of our cats.
15:43 Speaker 06 Okay.
15:44 Speaker 07 Leaps up and I haven't told anybody that.
15:47 Speaker 06 Okay.
15:48 Speaker 07 The cat has a little bit of milk.
15:50 Jessie Ware? Does your wife know that?
15:51 Speaker 07 No.
15:51 Jessie Ware? What's your cat called?
15:53 Speaker 07 Uh, that one is called Lotus.
15:55 Jessie Ware? How many cats have you got?
15:56 Speaker 07 Three.
15:57 Jessie Ware? Oh, wow.
15:57 Speaker 07 Yeah.
15:58 Speaker 06 You're not a dog person?
16:00 Speaker 07 We, I am a dog person, but our dog sadly died a few months ago.
16:04 Jessie Ware? Oh, I'm sorry.
16:05 Speaker 07 Yeah.
16:05 Speaker 06 You're gonna get.
16:06 Speaker 07 She was very old.
16:07 Speaker 06 You're gonna get another?
16:09 Speaker 07 Think so. You know, in a way, it's nice to not have to go out at night.
16:14 Jessie Ware? Yeah, cats are easier.
16:15 Speaker 07 They sure are.
16:16 Speaker 06 Yeah. So do you give your cat anything else in a saucer?
16:19 Speaker 07 No.
16:19 Jessie Ware? Just Lotus?
16:20 Speaker 06 You don't feed him a little fish or something tasty?
16:23 Speaker 07 No, they're all fat.
16:25 Speaker 06 Okay.
16:26 Speaker 07 The, the, the vet said all your cats are fat.
16:30 Speaker 06 All fat?
16:30 Speaker 07 So we cut down on their meals.
16:32 Jessie Ware? It's a bit mean, isn't it?
16:33 Speaker 07 It is mean. Also, really, one of them is fat, in my opinion.
16:36 Jessie Ware? Which one, Lotus?
16:37 Speaker 07 No, not Lotus. No, unless Remy's a little heavy.
16:40 Jessie Ware? Do you ever imagine that your cats have accents that aren't New York? I think my cat has like the Antonio Banderas like pissing boots. Like my one called Bob, I feel like he thinks that he's fighting the good fight.
16:52 Speaker 07 Yeah.
16:53 Jessie Ware? Um, that's what I think.
16:54 Speaker 07 I know, I put, you put personalities on them, I guess.
16:57 Jessie Ware? Um, can we talk about, if we were gonna come over to yours, because you are big cooks?
17:02 Speaker 07 Yeah.
17:02 Jessie Ware? What would you be serving Lenny and I? If we were coming over?
17:06 Speaker 07 Yeah. Well, that's so, so challenging, you know, I have a few things. I mean, I might make like just a big pasta or something, cause it's easy, you know?
17:16 Speaker 06 I love someone who does a big pasta.
17:18 Jessie Ware? I think that's very impressive.
17:19 Speaker 06 Very accomplished.
17:20 Jessie Ware? It is.
17:21 Speaker 06 Oh, no, it is.
17:21 Speaker 07 Yeah. Well, I mean, it could, I mean, like a, you know, bolognese or something, or, uh, what do we make lately? Uh, my wife makes lamb stew that's really good.
17:31 Jessie Ware? With any spice in it? Is it like more like a tajine or is it a hot pot?
17:36 Speaker 07 It has, um, carrots. It's pretty simple, but it's delicious. It has carrots and, uh,
17:45 Speaker 07 Not lentils, but the little round berry-like thing. A grain.
17:50 Speaker 06 A grain.
17:51 Speaker 07 Barley.
17:51 Speaker 06 Barley.
17:52 Speaker 07 Sorry, barley.
17:53 Speaker 06 Oh wow, lemon barley.
17:54 Speaker 07 Champagne you gave me.
17:55 Speaker 06 Keep going, yeah.
17:57 Speaker 07 Well, we made chicken thighs.
17:59 Speaker 06 Chicken thighs.
17:59 Speaker 07 You know what, I'm.
18:00 Speaker 06 Just a tray bake.
18:01 Speaker 07 Yes, we have a good one of those lately with
18:06 Speaker 07 shallots and vermouth and
18:08 Speaker 06 Yeah.
18:09 Speaker 07 Herb de Provence, like a lot of herb on top of it, so it almost looks like dark green.
18:14 Speaker 06 Nice.
18:15 Speaker 07 Very good.
18:16 Speaker 06 Do you have the New York Times app?
18:18 Speaker 07 Yes.
18:18 Speaker 06 I do, I love it.
18:19 Speaker 07 Yeah, and also Instagram or whatever.
18:21 Speaker 06 Yeah, there's something comes up and you think, that looks great, yeah.
18:24 Speaker 07 And that's why, the only thing about those is sometimes I make it and I have no memory of how I made it, you know? Because I follow the
18:31 Speaker 06 Yeah.
18:31 Speaker 07 The instructions very carefully.
18:33 Speaker 06 Yeah.
18:34 Speaker 07 And then a week later, I don't.
18:36 Speaker 06 You can bookmark it.
18:37 Speaker 07 Yes, I have to look it up again, but I'm saying, when I'm here.
18:41 Speaker 06 Yeah.
18:41 Speaker 07 I can't really remember.
18:42 Speaker 06 Yeah, fair enough.
18:43 Speaker 07 You know, like if you use Google Maps and somebody says, how do you get from there to there?
18:46 Speaker 06 Yeah, you wouldn't.
18:47 Speaker 07 Follows a little arrow.
18:47 Speaker 06 Can you remember who your like favorite Instagram chef is at the moment? Or who you're like doing a lot of recipes of?
18:53 Speaker 07 Well, I don't know their names.
18:55 Speaker 06 Do they know you're following them? Or do you have a finstagram? What's that? A fake Instagram. Oh, I didn't know.
19:02 Speaker 07 I don't have that, but I have it private.
19:04 Speaker 06 Right.
19:05 Speaker 07 I like to call it exclusive.
19:08 Speaker 06 Right.
19:09 Speaker 07 I think I have twenty-one followers. And I don't post anything.
19:15 Speaker 06 Oh.
19:15 Speaker 07 It's really interesting.
19:16 Speaker 06 So what are they following?
19:17 Speaker 07 I don't know.
19:18 Speaker 06 You're following, you're following. You're the voyeur.
19:21 Speaker 07 I don't know how it works. Yeah, I don't post. But I like, there's a, there's a woman who seems to cook every single day and she says, this is what French people eat at home. And she'll make a pot of something. I don't know her name, so what good is it to tell you that?
19:39 Speaker 06 Useless, it's useless.
19:40 Speaker 07 Okay, there's an Italian guy who doesn't speak very good English, who makes pasta outside and keeps leaning into the camera and he has short gray hair.
19:49 Speaker 06 That's sunny sushi.
19:53 Speaker 07 Sort of, yeah, okay. And he flips the pasta and says, the sound of love. And I think it's a filthy joke that he's making.
20:02 Speaker 06 Okay. You're there for the comedy?
20:05 Speaker 07 It was a kind of a.
20:06 Speaker 06 Yeah.
20:08 Speaker 07 I don't know how to describe the sound of pasta, wet pasta flopping over and over again. And then he says, the sound of love. And it gives me the creeps.
20:16 Speaker 06 Algorithms, what comes up on your Instagram?
20:20 Speaker 07 Oh, uh, let's see.
20:22 Speaker 06 The food.
20:23 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
20:23 Speaker 07 Um, you know, postman being bitten by animals.
20:28 Speaker 06 Really?
20:28 Jessie Ware? Interesting.
20:29 Speaker 07 Yeah, I like that. Hair loss, weight loss.
20:33 Speaker 06 Yeah.
20:34 Speaker 07 You know, just decrepitude.
20:36 Jessie Ware? You've got great, they're such fuckers, aren't they?
20:38 Speaker 07 Yeah, no, they're on to me.
20:39 Jessie Ware? Cause you've got great hair.
20:41 Speaker 07 No.
20:41 Jessie Ware? And you look great.
20:42 Speaker 07 I'm okay, but I'm always worried about it.
20:44 Jessie Ware? They get in your head.
20:45 Speaker 07 No, they know exactly what I'm worried about.
20:47 Jessie Ware? I'm like a psycho with my gua sha now. I'm eating like this every morning for half an hour.
20:52 Speaker 07 Yes, I get ads for a laser hat to make my hair grow or.
20:56 Speaker 06 A laser hat?
20:57 Speaker 07 Yeah.
20:58 Jessie Ware? How mean.
20:58 Speaker 07 Yeah, it is kind of mean. They know my weakness.
21:02 Jessie Ware? Your hair's looking great today, weren't you?
21:03 Speaker 07 Thank you, I really appreciate that.
21:05 Speaker 06 Well, I get people who are fat.
21:07 Speaker 07 I get that.
21:07 Jessie Ware? I get that too.
21:09 Speaker 06 And also brides. I don't know why.
21:12 Jessie Ware? You haven't been on a date in about forty years.
21:15 Speaker 06 Why, why am I getting bride and bridal wear? I think if you look at one wand.
21:20 Speaker 07 Yes.
21:21 Speaker 06 They then think that you're really interested in it.
21:23 Speaker 07 Yes.
21:24 Speaker 06 Do you cook more than your wife?
21:27 Speaker 07 No.
21:27 Jessie Ware? Shall we just name her because I know, just get it out of your, just get it out of your system and then just put it.
21:32 Speaker 06 It's fine and I'm not going to do, I'm not going to draw the dialogue from Sex and the City, which I know every word of.
21:37 Speaker 07 Yeah.
21:38 Speaker 06 And just like that also. But, um, do you, I wondered if you're both very competent, do you fight to get into the kitchen to cook?
21:47 Speaker 07 No, we don't really fight about it. She's, um, she probably cooks more than me. I might take on slightly more steps in a recipe. You know, she likes to make simpler things that she knows how to make.
21:58 Speaker 06 Yeah.
21:59 Speaker 07 Where I follow a, like a religiously follow these recipes.
22:03 Speaker 06 Do you have a special ingredient for your bolognese? We all think that we've got something spectacularly different in our bolognese.
22:10 Speaker 07 Yeah, well, I know, um, what's the stuff, the lean, perrons, the brown.
22:16 Speaker 06 Worcestershire sauce.
22:16 Speaker 07 Yeah, Worcestershire, sorry.
22:17 Speaker 06 Yeah.
22:18 Speaker 07 That seems like a kind of a British thing to add that.
22:21 Speaker 06 And you put that in.
22:22 Speaker 07 I do like that.
22:23 Speaker 06 Jesse puts mango chutney in.
22:24 Jessie Ware? No, I used to. No, you know what? I haven't done that for years. That was in a lasagna that my friend at university offered to me, which I think potentially we were all high, and that's why she was putting mango chutney in. But it did work.
22:37 Speaker 07 Does mango chutney make you hot? Oh, you were high, so she thought that would be good. Oh, I see.
22:41 Jessie Ware? But it did work. It's nice.
22:42 Speaker 07 It almost feels like almost anything would work in there. You could put soy sauce. I do usually.
22:46 Speaker 06 Yeah, me too.
22:47 Jessie Ware? White or red wine?
22:49 Speaker 07 Uh, whatever I have.
22:50 Speaker 06 Okay.
22:51 Speaker 07 I don't think that matters.
22:52 Jessie Ware? How's your seppartito cutting?
22:55 Speaker 07 Pretty good, I feel.
22:56 Jessie Ware? I'm never happy with mine.
22:58 Speaker 07 Well, I'm not really happy about it. And when I see a actual chef, I can't, I'm hypnotized by it.
23:04 Speaker 06 The way they do it.
23:05 Speaker 07 Or when they're talking to the camera, not looking and moving their fingers like this. Yeah, but I'm, I'm, my family's like, oh, you know, I have a daughter who's very good at it too. She can.
23:15 Speaker 06 Does she cook?
23:15 Speaker 07 Chop an onion up very well, yeah.
23:17 Jessie Ware? So, do you still make matzo bear soup or drink matzo bear soup?
23:20 Speaker 07 I never learned it. I wish I had, you know? My mom knew how to make it. I don't, I think maybe my wife knows how to make it, but no, we don't need it.
23:27 Jessie Ware? Can we talk about those Sundays that you'd spend with your mom? I believe, I believe that you'd go and visit your mom every Sunday and have dinner with her? Was that, I read something about that?
23:37 Speaker 07 I, you know, I don't, I don't remember that.
23:39 Jessie Ware? Oh, okay, well, let's not talk about it. Let's talk about your mom. She was Jewish and she.
23:43 Speaker 07 She was Jewish and I did probably go every, I was there a lot. I mean, you know, so probably every Sunday.
23:47 Speaker 06 You're only two blocks away.
23:49 Speaker 07 Yeah, exactly.
23:50 Jessie Ware? Be rude, not.
23:50 Speaker 07 She would call, scream out the window and I would come running.
23:54 Speaker 06 Before tax?
23:55 Speaker 07 Yeah. Well, yeah, she was, she loved food. She always had good things in the refrigerator. It was a, everybody liked to come to that house and peer in there because there would be things from a deli on the Upper West Side or wherever she. Would go in the city, she would remember. Oh, I can get good salmon at Barney Greengrass or.
24:16 Jessie Ware? This has come up so much.
24:18 Speaker 07 Barney Greengrass, yes, yeah. Great place.
24:20 Speaker 06 I've gone there.
24:21 Jessie Ware? My publicist said she got her lacquers for Satan at Barney Greengrass, like it's also.
24:26 Speaker 06 Have you been there?
24:26 Jessie Ware? No, but Jake Cohen, who has made the pudding for us today, do you know of Jake Cohen?
24:31 Speaker 07 No.
24:32 Jessie Ware? Should follow him on Instagram.
24:33 Speaker 07 Okay.
24:33 Jessie Ware? But he's been telling me all about Barney Greengrass.
24:35 Speaker 07 Barney Greengrass is incredible.
24:36 Speaker 06 Where is it exactly?
24:38 Speaker 07 It's on eighty seventh, between eighty six and eighty seventh street on Amsterdam Avenue.
24:43 Speaker 06 So it's a long way up.
24:45 Speaker 07 Yes, I mean.
24:46 Speaker 06 Yeah.
24:47 Speaker 07 It's a sort of a straight shot because you're on the west side, but.
24:50 Speaker 06 Oh, so we could go straight. Just we need to go.
24:52 Speaker 07 Certainly can't walk there, but you could get there very quickly on a train or.
24:56 Jessie Ware? Yeah, lots of people go when they see their doctor, they'll pop by Barney Greengrass to get something.
25:01 Speaker 07 Having been told, don't eat that anymore, they go right there and. Yeah, it's, it's the front room of it where the deli section is, is the same way it must have been in nineteen twenty. It's.
25:12 Speaker 06 Are you kidding?
25:13 Speaker 07 It has the old fridges and, and it's beautiful. It's a great experience.
25:17 Speaker 06 What's his smoked salmon like?
25:19 Speaker 07 Incredibly good.
25:20 Speaker 06 Yeah.
25:20 Speaker 07 And it's, they're called the sturgeon king. So I guess their sturgeon is very, but they have everything. They have gravel offs.
25:27 Speaker 06 What's sturgeon?
25:28 Speaker 07 Sturgeon is like a white smoked fish.
25:30 Speaker 06 Oh, sturgeon. Oh, but that's where you get caviar, the eggs or.
25:33 Speaker 07 Yes, this, but this is the flesh of it.
25:36 Speaker 06 Oh, I've never eaten it.
25:37 Speaker 07 Yeah.
25:38 Speaker 06 Have you eaten it?
25:39 Speaker 07 Yes.
25:40 Speaker 06 And it's great?
25:41 Speaker 07 Very good, yeah. And white fish, whatever that is.
25:44 Speaker 06 I don't have herring.
25:45 Speaker 07 Herring, any kind of, you know, dried or preserved fish.
25:49 Speaker 06 So, so your mom would go there and she'd pick up something and it would be in the fridge.
25:53 Speaker 07 Borscht.
25:54 Speaker 06 I love.
25:55 Speaker 07 I love borscht.
25:56 Speaker 06 I've got some in my freezer.
25:57 Speaker 07 And I don't really like beets, but I like borscht. It doesn't make any sense.
26:01 Speaker 06 It's good for your blood pressure.
26:03 Speaker 07 That's right.
26:03 Speaker 06 So your mom would have the best stock fridge?
26:06 Speaker 07 Yeah.
26:07 Speaker 06 And she was a good cook, even though you had your, your Sally, Sally, the housekeeper, your mom was a good cook?
26:12 Speaker 07 Yes, my mom was a, a very good, very good, just not, she wasn't an everyday type cook, but she liked to cook.
26:19 Speaker 06 Was that because she was working?
26:20 Speaker 07 Yeah. She was a painter and so she liked to come home and relax and eat what Sally made mostly. But she could make the, she made some fancy things. She made duck, I remember a few times that was. The whole house was on red alert that the, you know, that the duck was, the duck's in, now the duck come out, you know? And uh, but it came out alright, nothing caught fire and, you know, that this, all that fat has to kind of get out of it and uh. I had a friend over named Gero. And he asked for um.
26:57 Speaker 07 I think Worcestershire or maybe uh. A in one steak sauce to put on the duck, just after.
27:03 Speaker 06 She hit him.
27:04 Speaker 07 Practically, yeah.
27:05 Speaker 06 Sure.
27:05 Speaker 07 Was really angry.
27:06 Speaker 06 Yeah.
27:07 Speaker 07 Almost threw him out.
27:09 Speaker 06 Fair enough. Did you have a bar mitzvah?
27:11 Speaker 07 No, we were kind of uh, not religious.
27:15 Speaker 06 But is your dad, he's Catholic?
27:18 Speaker 07 My dad was Catholic, Irish Catholic.
27:20 Speaker 06 A lot of guilt going through here.
27:21 Speaker 07 Yes, yes, yes. Hard to say which side of me is worse.
27:25 Speaker 06 Yeah. The guilt, yeah.
27:27 Speaker 07 Yeah.
27:27 Jessie Ware? Have you ever thought about living anywhere else?
27:30 Speaker 06 Yeah, I was gonna say that, like Europe.
27:32 Speaker 07 Yeah.
27:33 Jessie Ware? When you were in London, did we like tickle you?
27:36 Speaker 07 Yeah, I do think, yeah, I think it would be great to live there. I always think about that.
27:41 Jessie Ware? Now the kids are a bit older.
27:43 Speaker 07 Yeah, well, they're getting there. It's been not possible unless they wanted to really go to school there, which. Which they didn't, we almost tried to do that for Plaza Suite, you know, that the.
27:54 Speaker 06 Yeah.
27:56 Speaker 07 But they were, it was their first year of high school and they were, didn't wanna get socially behind and disappear, you know? I would love that. You know, I, I love being there and I always, also always feel a little bit like an outsider, you know? It's funny when you're uh.
28:11 Speaker 06 Yeah, I think.
28:12 Speaker 07 You can't quite feel, but that's nice.
28:14 Jessie Ware? But isn't it really, is that?
28:15 Speaker 07 I always say things a little wrong, I feel like, when I'm in England or.
28:19 Speaker 06 Like what?
28:20 Speaker 07 Like I live three blocks away.
28:23 Speaker 06 Okay.
28:24 Jessie Ware? But then that just feels quintessentially New York and we think that's completely charming.
28:28 Speaker 07 Yes, for, for a while you do, but then gradually you get annoyed that I don't speak right.
28:33 Jessie Ware? We don't have blocks.
28:34 Speaker 07 I know.
28:34 Jessie Ware? So, yeah, I don't know how that works.
28:36 Speaker 07 I don't think anybody has blocks, I don't.
28:38 Jessie Ware? Glasgow does.
28:39 Speaker 07 Is that right?
28:39 Jessie Ware? Glasgow.
28:40 Speaker 07 Do they say?
28:40 Jessie Ware? New York was modeled on Glasgow.
28:43 Speaker 07 Well, now, now I've learned something.
28:44 Jessie Ware? I think that's right, I think that's right.
28:46 Speaker 06 You sure?
28:47 Jessie Ware? It was like the grid system.
28:48 Speaker 07 Yeah.
28:49 Jessie Ware? And.
28:49 Speaker 06 That's like Milton Keynes.
28:51 Jessie Ware? I believe New York was modeled on Glasgow, but maybe it's the other way around. I don't know, now, that's the only bit of history and architecture I've got for you.
28:57 Speaker 07 No, that's plenty.
28:59 Speaker 06 Do, do you, did you go to any dinner parties when you were in London?
29:03 Speaker 07 Very few, you know, because we were doing a show at night.
29:05 Jessie Ware? At night.
29:06 Speaker 07 But we did go the River Cafe.
29:08 Jessie Ware? Oh, Ruthie, we love Ruthie.
29:10 Speaker 07 Incredible. And we went to her home.
29:13 Jessie Ware? I bet.
29:13 Speaker 07 For a uh a lunch more. It wasn't a dinner party, but it was a beautiful, of course, lunch. So to eat at somebody's home is always, particularly if you're
29:23 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
29:24 Speaker 07 not from, when you're living somewhere else. It's so great when you get into a house.
29:28 Jessie Ware? Ruthie's fabulous.
29:29 Speaker 07 Yes, she sure is.
29:30 Jessie Ware? She has a story for for everything.
29:33 Speaker 07 Yeah, she's, has she been on this show?
29:35 Jessie Ware? Yes.
29:36 Speaker 07 Yeah.
29:36 Jessie Ware? She's fat. So Madonna said that when she was married to Guy Ritchie, that she loved dinner parties in London because of the political talk and talk about books. Do you think it's different in New York or are people quite political?
29:51 Speaker 07 Yeah, I I feel like nowadays in in dinner parties in a way, people, well, if they're your friends, you know how it'll go. But it's always a little scary to bring up politics now because the feelings are so.
30:04 Jessie Ware? But not in New York. You must all think the same.
30:06 Speaker 07 We're all the same, basically, but every now and then somebody isn't the same and you don't want them to feel horrible and uh, I don't know. We was at a baseball game and there was a guy with a Canadian baseball hat. And I was like, I love Canada. And I was like, I wonder if they're going to still let us into Canada. This is right after the, you know, the big tariffs.
30:24 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
30:25 Speaker 07 The first time the tariff.
30:26 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
30:27 Speaker 07 And I made some crack about tariffs and the guy said, oh, I understand them, but there's a better way to say it.
30:33 Jessie Ware? What do you mean? Did you shove a hot dog in his mouth?
30:37 Speaker 07 It would be okay. That Canada wouldn't be mad if it had been said more nicely, I guess. That's the kind of thing that happens when you think.
30:44 Jessie Ware? Baseball's a long game, isn't it? It is. And you have to like sit with that.
30:48 Speaker 07 We were on our way home. We had a long subway ride, jammed, you know, face to face. Oh, look at that. I forgot there was food coming.
30:57 Jessie Ware? Oh, yeah. Like you can have as big or small. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, look, like we now.
31:04 Speaker 07 You guys make this?
31:05 Jessie Ware? So it's difficult. Right. So I let me just tell you about this. So I did not this, but this and this.
31:12 Speaker 07 Wow.
31:13 Jessie Ware? So I helped make that. This is, we went to this amazing spice store called. SOS Chefs. You've got to go, Matthew. Wonderful. It's amazing. She let us try this. It's.
31:27 Speaker 06 You say the word because.
31:28 Jessie Ware? How do you say that?
31:29 Speaker 07 Kumquat?
31:29 Jessie Ware? Mum calls it.
31:30 Speaker 06 Kumquat.
31:30 Jessie Ware? Kumquat. And I find it.
31:32 Speaker 07 How do you say it?
31:33 Speaker 06 Kumquat.
31:33 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
31:34 Speaker 07 Kum.
31:34 Jessie Ware? Kumquat. It sounds too close to twat.
31:37 Speaker 06 Oh, Jessica, stop it.
31:38 Jessie Ware? But then I guess the other way.
31:39 Speaker 07 What kind of show is this?
31:40 Speaker 06 Right.
31:41 Jessie Ware? So.
31:41 Speaker 06 So they said to serve it with fish. So I didn't know that to spread it on or would you like to put some on the side in case you don't like it?
31:48 Jessie Ware? Yeah, should we do that?
31:49 Speaker 06 Yeah.
31:50 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah.
31:50 Jessie Ware? Are you fussy?
31:51 Speaker 07 I'm not.
31:52 Jessie Ware? Okay.
31:52 Speaker 06 Okay, shall I put it on?
31:53 Speaker 07 I would just blog it on. But if you guys are.
31:55 Speaker 06 No, I'm gonna do it because I think it would taste great.
31:58 Jessie Ware? You've got to go to SOS Chefs. It's amazing. It's like.
32:02 Speaker 07 SOS Chef.
32:03 Jessie Ware? Apocrypha- apothecary of like spices everywhere. I got this Harissa mayo. They've got every, she was putting honey and saying, say a wish. And it was like the smallest Venezuelan bees making the most extraordinary honey. It's amazing experience and I think her name's Atev. And so we tried this and we were like, wow. And then we went to this restaurant called Penny last night. Have you been to Penny?
32:28 Speaker 07 Like P E N what, like Penny?
32:31 Jessie Ware? Yeah, like a penny, yeah.
32:32 Speaker 07 Like a penny, okay.
32:33 Jessie Ware? The most amazing fish restaurant. And then they had a Kumquat cosho, so it feels like maybe it's the new Brussels sprout.
32:39 Speaker 07 Could be. The new. See, people come from out of town and learn things that you don't know.
32:45 Jessie Ware? So, yeah, mum's done side of salmon from miserable Whole Foods with this Kumquat.
32:51 Speaker 07 That's the one that the mean man gave you?
32:53 Jessie Ware? This is the miserable salmon, yeah. And then this is, um, well, it's kind of a version of, so Jake Cohen, who is this wonderful challah baker and also chef, who's been helping us, he's done the pudding for us. And but he had in his new recipe book, a roasted potato salad with honey and mustard and cornichons and dill. But we didn't have time to roast them because it took too long to get uptown because.
33:20 Speaker 07 Okay, so they're boiled.
33:21 Jessie Ware? So they're boiled, so I apologize.
33:22 Speaker 07 That sounds good.
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35:39 Jessie Ware? We're gonna ask you, so you can start thinking. Your last supper. Starter, main, dessert, drink.
35:46 Speaker 07 Decisions like that are so, thank you so much, hard. Wait, my last starter.
35:53 Jessie Ware? That cosher's so good.
35:55 Speaker 06 You might want more on it.
35:56 Speaker 07 I like oysters a lot.
35:58 Jessie Ware? Really? How do you like to eat your oyster?
36:00 Speaker 07 But I guess that's kind of dull, right?
36:01 Speaker 06 No, I think it divides the room.
36:04 Jessie Ware? I have a great oyster at this place, Penny, you've got to go to Penny.
36:06 Speaker 07 Yeah. I guess oyster's not my favorite starter, though, that's a bit much.
36:12 Speaker 07 I like them with just lemon usually.
36:15 Jessie Ware? Big ones, small ones?
36:18 Speaker 07 I used to shy away from the big ones, but in a way, big ones tend to be kind of a mild flavor, I have a feel, I think, that's probably not true.
36:27 Speaker 06 What do you think of the cosher?
36:30 Speaker 07 I just bit it, delicious.
36:31 Jessie Ware? Yeah, good, right?
36:33 Speaker 07 Oh, so good.
36:34 Jessie Ware? You've got to go to this place, you'll love it.
36:36 Speaker 07 It's delicious.
36:37 Jessie Ware? She's amazing, she's just a character as well.
36:39 Speaker 06 Jesse, we've got to go back and get more of this.
36:41 Jessie Ware? No, it's good.
36:42 Speaker 07 Also, the salmon under it is perfect.
36:44 Speaker 06 The salmon's really perfect, yeah.
36:46 Jessie Ware? Even if he was a prick, it's delicious salmon.
36:49 Speaker 07 Maybe he knew it was such good salmon.
36:51 Jessie Ware? He didn't want to give it to me.
36:52 Speaker 07 Yeah.
36:53 Jessie Ware? Okay, I've got to ask, I'm asking one Ferris Bueller thing.
36:56 Speaker 07 Hmm, ask anything.
36:57 Jessie Ware? Who is the sausage king of New York?
37:00 Speaker 06 Oh my god.
37:00 Speaker 07 What a great question.
37:03 Speaker 07 Wish I had a great answer. Anybody, anybody know who the sausage king of New York is?
37:08 Speaker 06 It must be, what's her name?
37:10 Jessie Ware? I don't know.
37:10 Speaker 06 Ruby Wax's father, who drove around with the big wiener.
37:15 Jessie Ware? The wiener?
37:15 Speaker 06 The wiener on the top of his car.
37:18 Speaker 07 There are, well, I don't know who the sausage king is, but Upper East Side has a German area in the eighties, way east, Yorkville.
37:27 Jessie Ware? So we'll go with that.
37:28 Speaker 07 Sure you could find a good sausage up there.
37:32 Jessie Ware? Did you ever have any problems getting a reservation anywhere after Ferris Bueller?
37:37 Speaker 07 Um, no.
37:40 Speaker 07 Uh, yeah, once in a while. I'm not great at saying,
37:44 Speaker 07 you know, this is Ferris Bueller, can you get me a table? So I, but then when they say they don't have a table, then I say who I am and then they feel awkward.
37:52 Jessie Ware? Do you say you're the sausage king?
37:53 Speaker 07 Yeah, yes.
37:55 Jessie Ware? Is that, is that your alias when you check in?
37:58 Speaker 07 Um, no. It's funny with aliases. I worked with Marlon Brando.
38:05 Speaker 06 Wow.
38:05 Speaker 07 Believe it or not.
38:06 Speaker 06 On what? What did you work on? He must have been about two.
38:09 Speaker 07 A movie called The Freshman. I was in my, I think I was 30 or in my late twenties. And his, uh, name at the hotel was Jim Dandy.
38:18 Speaker 06 Jim Dandy.
38:20 Speaker 07 Yeah.
38:20 Speaker 06 Didn't he stay at the Chelsea Hotel as well?
38:23 Speaker 07 Did he?
38:24 Speaker 06 Marlon Brando.
38:25 Speaker 07 Right.
38:26 Speaker 06 Bob Dylan was there. Bob Dylan was there, but I think Marlon Brando was there with.
38:29 Speaker 07 Maybe. Well, I, when I was, I worked with him in Toronto, so he was at a hotel in Toronto and he didn't want to be bothered, so he went under the name Jim Dandy.
38:38 Jessie Ware? It would be quite fun to think of an alias, like,
38:41 Speaker 07 Hmm.
38:42 Jessie Ware? If one, I mean, not fun to have to be the person that have to have an alias to hide yourself, but.
38:48 Speaker 07 I used to stay at hotels and give a name, but I would try to give a name that was as famous or more famous than me.
38:56 Speaker 07 I'm gonna go under Michael Keaton. I would try that or.
39:01 Speaker 07 Trying to think of somebody who's, you know, doing better than me, a little better than me.
39:05 Speaker 06 Did you have any meals with Marlon?
39:07 Speaker 07 Yes.
39:08 Speaker 06 How were his table manners?
39:10 Speaker 07 His table manners were good.
39:11 Speaker 06 Yeah.
39:11 Speaker 07 He was on a very strict diet.
39:14 Speaker 06 Okay, so.
39:14 Speaker 07 Always dieting and he weighed about nine hundred pounds.
39:16 Speaker 06 He was a big guy, wasn't he?
39:19 Speaker 07 I can say that because he's not alive, so he won't call me and yell at me. Um.
39:23 Speaker 06 But I think he had the same problem as Elvis. They kind of.
39:26 Jessie Ware? What, they liked burgers and pizza?
39:27 Speaker 06 Yeah, they, I don't think they held back.
39:29 Speaker 07 Fried banana sandwiches and peanut butter.
39:31 Speaker 06 Yeah.
39:32 Speaker 07 Um, he was fun to eat with. He was very charming and he loved to, uh, tell stories and, uh, though it was always peculiar to watch him eating his lettuce leaf and, uh, you know, and six almonds and think, well, yeah, you're eating, somewhere you're eating. Um.
39:49 Speaker 06 So do you think he just ordered room service?
39:52 Speaker 07 Yes, it's kind of sad, isn't it? Yeah, because I lived on the same floor and actually saw at night a guy come with a big cheese board.
40:00 Speaker 06 Tom Jones told us that Elvis used to keep a pizza under his bed in the middle of the night in case he got hungry. A wine pizza.
40:09 Speaker 07 Yeah.
40:10 Speaker 06 Yeah, it's sad.
40:11 Speaker 07 Yeah, it is kind of sad.
40:12 Speaker 06 That's like an addiction, isn't it?
40:14 Speaker 07 I guess so.
40:15 Speaker 06 Even I don't do that.
40:19 Speaker 07 But, uh, boy, having dinner with Marlon Brando is like, just a, what a great, I'm so glad I had that, that chance just to, he was such a great man, such a great actor that, uh,
40:34 Speaker 06 The best.
40:34 Speaker 07 Just to hear anything he has to say or to watch how he navigates the table, the food, the people. I just love watching him, to tell you the truth.
40:44 Speaker 06 He was so handsome.
40:46 Speaker 07 So handsome and he was still handsome.
40:48 Speaker 06 But can I say, your face.
40:51 Speaker 07 A little bit like Marlon Brando.
40:52 Speaker 06 No, better. I was thinking how you do look like you did when you were young. Your face hasn't changed a lot. You're still Ferris, you know, the Ferris Bueller face there. Very handsome.
41:04 Speaker 07 Thank you, that's very nice of you.
41:05 Speaker 06 No, it's not nice, it's true. She's objectifying. I'm very, I'm not objectifying. He's handsome, don't they?
41:12 Speaker 07 Yeah, don't objectify me. I'm just kidding. Keep talking.
41:17 Speaker 06 Could you do a remake of Ferris Bueller but older people?
41:21 Speaker 07 Yeah, I could.
41:23 Speaker 06 A senior day out.
41:24 Speaker 07 Sure.
41:25 Speaker 06 Oh, that's so rude. People like me.
41:28 Speaker 07 Do they have, yeah, Cameron has diabetes.
41:33 Speaker 06 They've killed their bodies with all the.
41:36 Speaker 07 Yes.
41:37 Speaker 06 What car are they driving?
41:38 Speaker 07 Yeah, Ferris has one eye, one very large eye.
41:44 Speaker 07 No, we'd have to make it fun.
41:46 Speaker 06 Yeah.
41:46 Speaker 07 Yeah, I would love to if anybody could think of how to do it, you know, we always talk about it and never do it.
41:52 Jessie Ware? Last supper, I've given you a few mouthfuls of salmon.
41:57 Speaker 07 Okay.
41:58 Jessie Ware? And a bit of potato salad. Have you thought about your appetizer and your stuff? Are you going with oysters?
42:03 Speaker 07 You know, yeah, I'm removing oysters for the appetizer. I once, when I was very young, I did a movie in Italy and it's gonna sound too simple, but bruschetta or bruschetta.
42:13 Jessie Ware? I love the bruschetta, yeah.
42:15 Speaker 07 Yeah, that they made in some restaurant where they put the wood fire and they burnt the bread.
42:21 Jessie Ware? So what was the top on?
42:22 Speaker 07 Just tomatoes and oil and garlic and a little basil.
42:25 Jessie Ware? Yeah, lovely. No, you can say tomato.
42:28 Speaker 07 But like, you know, tomatoes that are like explosive.
42:32 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
42:33 Speaker 07 And I still remember it. So I'm gonna have that for my last.
42:36 Jessie Ware? Okay, so that's your, that's your starter.
42:38 Speaker 07 Yeah.
42:39 Jessie Ware? Main entree, as you say here.
42:42 Speaker 07 That's so hard, isn't it?
42:44 Jessie Ware? Just, you know, for today, Matthew.
42:45 Speaker 07 Yeah.
42:46 Jessie Ware? Don't worry.
42:47 Speaker 07 But it's the last one ever.
42:48 Jessie Ware? You're going method on this.
42:51 Speaker 07 You know, what I am is I'm very bad with decisions. Like, I don't like a long menu.
42:55 Jessie Ware? Are you a Libra?
42:57 Speaker 07 I'm an Aries.
42:58 Jessie Ware? Oh, okay, I can't help you on that.
42:59 Speaker 07 Uh, my main, I don't know, chicken? Just a nice roast chicken. I had a roast chicken when I was a boy in Spain. I'm gonna go international here. That was on one of the, a spit.
43:11 Jessie Ware? Roti, sorry.
43:12 Speaker 07 Yes. I still remember that chicken, so I'm gonna have that. The Conquereta, I think it's called, a very old restaurant in Barcelona.
43:21 Jessie Ware? Is it still there?
43:22 Speaker 07 Yes.
43:23 Jessie Ware? I need to go.
43:23 Speaker 07 It's been there since like sixteen eighty.
43:26 Jessie Ware? Have you returned since?
43:27 Speaker 07 I was there and it was, I walked by it, it was closed.
43:30 Jessie Ware? Oh, shame.
43:32 Speaker 07 I think it's kind of, it might be a touristy place now.
43:34 Jessie Ware? But it was delicious. They didn't put the potatoes underneath with the fat going.
43:38 Speaker 07 Probably. I don't know if I remember that. I was about nine years old.
43:41 Jessie Ware? Yeah, right. Are you having any sides with that?
43:44 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah, definitely. Potatoes, definitely. Just great roast potatoes. Roast potatoes, oh, you know, I like Greek lemon and chicken broth and.
43:55 Jessie Ware? And oregano, yeah, delicious. Do you get, do you spend time in Greece?
43:59 Speaker 07 Yes, a few times. And those potatoes are great. And we make those at home, too.
44:04 Jessie Ware? So good. Do you like desserts?
44:07 Speaker 07 Yes.
44:07 Jessie Ware? What's your best dessert?
44:10 Speaker 07 Dessert's not my very favorite thing.
44:12 Speaker 06 No.
44:12 Jessie Ware? What's your very favorite?
44:13 Speaker 07 Well, I'm more of a, like the potatoes that we mentioned or something. Yeah, carby, I'm a carby.
44:18 Jessie Ware? Like cheese?
44:19 Speaker 07 I love cheese.
44:20 Speaker 06 Meat, cheese and a glass of red wine.
44:22 Speaker 07 Yeah.
44:22 Jessie Ware? That's it.
44:23 Speaker 07 Come on, I left out cheese.
44:25 Jessie Ware? It's okay, add it in.
44:26 Speaker 07 I can have cheese after.
44:27 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
44:27 Speaker 07 Like a French person.
44:28 Jessie Ware? So which cheeses are you having on your board?
44:30 Speaker 07 Stilton.
44:31 Jessie Ware? Oh, that would be like not my top choice.
44:34 Speaker 07 Isn't that British?
44:35 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
44:36 Speaker 07 I'm trying to make friends, be ingratiated.
44:38 Jessie Ware? We're friends, man.
44:39 Speaker 06 Jeffy, his connect.
44:40 Jessie Ware? I love this.
44:41 Speaker 07 Yeah, well, cheddar.
44:42 Speaker 06 I love cheddar, a good cheddar.
44:44 Jessie Ware? We do have good cheddar.
44:45 Speaker 06 I like French cheeses as well.
44:46 Jessie Ware? I like Godminster cheddar, have you had a Godminster cheddar?
44:48 Speaker 07 No.
44:49 Speaker 06 Or a Black Bomber?
44:50 Jessie Ware? Black Bomber, yeah.
44:51 Speaker 07 I had a large round cheddar that you hacked at that came from.
44:57 Speaker 06 Wales?
44:57 Jessie Ware? Dellsford Farm or something like that.
44:59 Speaker 07 Some very fancy cheese place.
45:01 Jessie Ware? I love it from Margey.
45:03 Speaker 07 Yeah.
45:03 Speaker 06 Do you like a red wine with that?
45:05 Speaker 07 Sure.
45:05 Speaker 06 Which one?
45:08 Speaker 07 I never know, a Barolo, everybody says Barolo, I hear that.
45:11 Speaker 06 A good Italian.
45:14 Speaker 07 Yeah, I like a nice strong or a Burgundy I like, I like a Chateau Neuf de Pop.
45:19 Speaker 06 Me too.
45:20 Speaker 07 I never really know, but I like, somebody else tells me and I have it and I love it, that's what.
45:25 Speaker 06 And then a little sweet thing afterwards.
45:27 Speaker 07 Little sweet thing and French cheese, I've left out a lot of good cheese. Um, what's a good sweet?
45:32 Speaker 06 See, I'd have ice cream every time.
45:34 Speaker 07 Ice cream is incredibly good, I love ice cream.
45:36 Jessie Ware? Where do you get your ice cream from in New York?
45:39 Speaker 07 We have a lot of ice cream places around us.
45:43 Speaker 06 Van Leeu, is that good?
45:45 Speaker 07 Very good.
45:45 Speaker 06 Do you like soft serve or do you like?
45:47 Speaker 07 I love soft serve, my wife loves, the cheaper the soft serve, the better.
45:52 Speaker 06 Oh, like she'll go to Mr.
45:53 Speaker 07 Kill them out of a van.
45:54 Speaker 06 There's a van just down the road.
45:56 Speaker 07 Yeah.
45:56 Jessie Ware? She really is the people's princess.
45:58 Speaker 07 She is, she's a princess, yes.
46:01 Jessie Ware? Do you put flakes in your soft serve in England?
46:04 Speaker 07 Yeah, the long brown thing. I love that thing. A ninety nine.
46:07 Jessie Ware? A nineteen nine. Oh, you call them ninety nines here?
46:10 Speaker 07 No, you know, I spent a lot of time in Ireland growing up, so I used to eat those.
46:16 Jessie Ware? Why Ireland?
46:18 Speaker 07 Uh, my family has still, we have a home there.
46:22 Jessie Ware? Where?
46:23 Speaker 07 Donegal.
46:24 Jessie Ware? Gorgeous.
46:25 Speaker 07 Yeah.
46:25 Jessie Ware? Wet but gorgeous.
46:27 Speaker 07 Wet but gorgeous. Exactly. It's very wet.
46:29 Jessie Ware? Have you ever been to Dingle?
46:31 Speaker 07 No, that's down very south, right?
46:33 Jessie Ware? Is that very far away from Donegal?
46:35 Speaker 06 Paly Malone.
46:36 Speaker 07 Um, like, it's almost as far as you could get.
46:38 Jessie Ware? Oh, it's really wonderful.
46:40 Speaker 06 Gorgeous.
46:40 Speaker 07 Everybody.
46:41 Jessie Ware? I feel like you would love it. It's got the most amount of pubs in a like vicinity, like it's. And there's this amazing music, not I'm big on pubs, actually I really don't like pubs, but like, I like them there.
46:53 Speaker 07 Yeah.
46:53 Jessie Ware? And there's this amazing music festival that happens around Christmas time.
46:57 Speaker 07 Yeah, I've heard of that.
46:58 Jessie Ware? So Donegal, like, what are you eating when you go to Donegal or drink it?
47:01 Speaker 06 Potatoes and boiled.
47:03 Speaker 07 Potatoes, potatoes, potatoes, uh, which are great, by the way, if you're from America and you go there and you're like, I can't believe this is a potato. This is the most flavorful thing.
47:13 Jessie Ware? I know.
47:14 Speaker 07 A boiled potato.
47:15 Speaker 06 Boiled potato.
47:16 Speaker 07 A boiled new potato.
47:17 Speaker 06 With bacon.
47:18 Speaker 07 Incredible. Maybe my, you know, if I was being honest when you said your last meal, it might have been a boiling bacon cabbage and some boiled potatoes and some mustard.
47:26 Speaker 06 That's what they serve.
47:27 Jessie Ware? What, what's your drink in Ireland?
47:30 Speaker 07 Um, once in a while Guinness. I like Irish whiskey a lot. Yeah, it's good to keep it simple there.
47:38 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
47:38 Speaker 07 Although there, if you're in Dublin or a big city, it's, of course, you can get anything you want, but where we are, it's, you know, it's usually either a whiskey or a beer or a glass of wine.
47:49 Speaker 06 But it does rain all the time.
47:50 Speaker 07 It does rain.
47:51 Speaker 06 A lot.
47:52 Speaker 07 Yes, you have to. Get into the
47:55 Jessie Ware? Yeah, you have to.
47:56 Speaker 07 Spirit of it and it's okay to sit by a fire and have your book or your woman's own magazine.
48:04 Jessie Ware? More potatoes, speaking of iron.
48:07 Speaker 07 No, I'm okay.
48:08 Jessie Ware? So we do have a little pod, but it's very like tiny thing.
48:12 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah.
48:13 Jessie Ware? Dessert.
48:13 Speaker 07 Good. Yeah.
48:14 Jessie Ware? Yeah. Okay, great.
48:15 Speaker 07 Um, I know that word.
48:16 Jessie Ware? Is your fridge as well stocked as your mother's?
48:19 Speaker 07 That's a good question.
48:20 Jessie Ware? What's in there at the moment?
48:21 Speaker 07 You know what there's too much of is little jars of so many jars.
48:26 Jessie Ware? They take up so much space. The whole top shelf is jars.
48:28 Speaker 07 Maybe the top two shelves are half filled spicy garlic, sashawan, something.
48:35 Jessie Ware? A harissa in there.
48:36 Speaker 07 Yeah, four harissas.
48:37 Jessie Ware? Capers. Yeah.
48:39 Speaker 07 Three bottles of capers that have ten capers in one of them.
48:42 Jessie Ware? I know.
48:43 Speaker 07 You know, a hundred capers in the other one. Pickles. Yeah, that takes up an incredible amount.
48:49 Jessie Ware? It's very irritating.
48:50 Speaker 07 Then there is something that nobody really likes that's been in there for two or three days.
48:54 Jessie Ware? Nobody wants to take it out.
48:55 Speaker 07 Nobody wants to be the one to say that wasn't that good.
48:59 Jessie Ware? Do you take food home if you don't finish it in the rest?
49:01 Speaker 07 We take it home and then don't eat it.
49:03 Jessie Ware? Okay, fine.
49:04 Speaker 07 Um, I do sometimes. I'm kind of the disposal probably, you know, I'm the one who says that's gonna go bad.
49:13 Jessie Ware? But don't your kids say, open the fridge?
49:16 Speaker 07 Yeah.
49:16 Jessie Ware? And it's full and they say there's nothing to eat.
49:18 Speaker 07 Yes. Yes. I do that too. I just stare at it.
49:22 Jessie Ware? You stare, there's nothing to eat?
49:23 Speaker 07 What do I want?
49:24 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
49:25 Speaker 07 And I look through all the little jars. An old chop.
49:29 Jessie Ware? On DoorDash.
49:30 Speaker 07 Yeah, then I go into my desk. I'm too, I'm too socially awkward to, I don't want the guy from DoorDash to come to the house. I'd rather cook something.
49:38 Jessie Ware? Okay, why? Because you don't want him to judge your order?
49:41 Speaker 07 Yeah, and I don't want him to see me take that little bag and creep away and eat it.
49:48 Speaker 06 To explain what's in the blonde.
49:51 Jessie Ware? These are called blondies. He likes to call them the platinum blonde. It's a lemon and almond.
49:56 Speaker 07 I'm eating it.
49:57 Speaker 06 And a blondie.
49:59 Jessie Ware? Oh, really?
49:59 Speaker 07 Sumac? I didn't really know what sumac is.
50:01 Jessie Ware? This is a Jake Cohen special.
50:02 Speaker 07 Oh, did he make them?
50:04 Jessie Ware? Yeah, it's fab. You've really got to like, he's really good.
50:07 Speaker 06 You might need a knife to cut.
50:09 Jessie Ware? Oh, that's nice. Hmm. Mmm. It tastes quite like marzipan, doesn't it? Mmm.
50:13 Speaker 06 The almonds.
50:13 Speaker 07 Almonds and almonds. And what'd you say, sumac?
50:16 Jessie Ware? I can't taste the sumac, but it's a little.
50:18 Speaker 07 What is that?
50:19 Jessie Ware? Sumac's a spice that's red. Middle Eastern. Middle Eastern.
50:23 Speaker 06 It's like tartness.
50:24 Jessie Ware? A lemon bark, barky taste.
50:27 Speaker 07 Hmm.
50:27 Jessie Ware? Matthew, can you give us a nostalgic taste or scent that can transport you back somewhere?
50:33 Speaker 07 I don't know, my dad making bacon, maybe?
50:36 Jessie Ware? In the morning?
50:37 Speaker 07 Yeah. I'm remembering when I was a kid, even probably too young to drink coffee. But when coffee used to come in a can, already ground.
50:47 Speaker 06 Yeah.
50:48 Speaker 07 Everybody in America, that's how we had coffee.
50:49 Speaker 06 A tin of coffee, yeah.
50:50 Jessie Ware? What, like, so like instant coffee? No.
50:52 Speaker 07 No, it was real coffee, but it would, it was like a large tin like this and you would open it and and then that's where you would scoop your coffee into your machine from that.
51:01 Jessie Ware? Oh, okay, right.
51:02 Speaker 07 I don't know if you did that in England.
51:03 Jessie Ware? So like, lavazza kind of does that still, like?
51:05 Speaker 07 Yeah.
51:05 Jessie Ware? Okay, fine.
51:06 Speaker 07 But it was a bigger can.
51:07 Speaker 06 It's a big can.
51:08 Speaker 07 And it wasn't lavazza, it was like choc full of nuts.
51:12 Speaker 06 Choc full of nuts? That's what the name of the coffee was, choc full of nuts?
51:15 Speaker 07 Choc full of nuts. Like it's really full of nuts.
51:19 Speaker 06 Yeah.
51:19 Speaker 07 It's from a restaurant chain called Choc Full of Nuts.
51:22 Speaker 06 Where is that?
51:23 Speaker 07 It's gone.
51:23 Speaker 06 It's gone, darling.
51:24 Speaker 07 But they still make the coffee.
51:25 Speaker 06 Choc or choc?
51:26 Jessie Ware? Choc.
51:27 Speaker 07 Choc.
51:27 Speaker 06 C H O three.
51:29 Speaker 07 It's choc full of something, it's very full.
51:32 Jessie Ware? I like that name.
51:33 Speaker 07 Choc full of nuts.
51:34 Jessie Ware? It's a shame it's not around anymore.
51:36 Speaker 07 It was a very nice kind of a diner chain where you could get a sandwich that was breaded with nuts and raisins in it and cream cheese. Does that sound good?
51:46 Speaker 06 Yeah, delicious.
51:48 Jessie Ware? And raisins and cream cheese.
51:49 Speaker 07 Yeah, it was pretty good. And this good coffee, you know?
51:51 Speaker 06 Yeah, you'd open the tin up and then you'd have a little.
51:54 Speaker 07 The smell, that's what I'm thinking. When it went, it would go.
51:57 Speaker 06 It was gorgeous.
51:58 Speaker 07 And this, uh, cause it was pressurized, I guess, and it would blow this, uh, ground coffee scent at you.
52:04 Speaker 06 That's such a good thing.
52:05 Speaker 07 And it was sockingly good.
52:07 Jessie Ware? Chock full of nuts.
52:09 Speaker 07 Yes.
52:10 Jessie Ware? I like that. So will you, before we let you go?
52:14 Speaker 07 Yes.
52:15 Jessie Ware? Give us your top. I mean, I know you cook a lot.
52:19 Speaker 07 Yeah, we eat out a lot, too.
52:20 Jessie Ware? Yeah, but like any places that you just guaranteed a good meal.
52:24 Speaker 06 So we can go tomorrow.
52:26 Speaker 07 Tomorrow?
52:26 Speaker 06 Yeah.
52:27 Speaker 07 Well, have you been to Via Corota, which is near here?
52:30 Speaker 06 No, it's just Italian.
52:32 Speaker 07 Yes.
52:33 Speaker 06 See, we've been looking for an Italian.
52:35 Speaker 07 That's like very cool, good Italian.
52:39 Speaker 06 Yeah.
52:39 Speaker 07 You know, but really very special.
52:44 Jessie Ware? Okay.
52:44 Speaker 07 Right here, here.
52:45 Jessie Ware? You say cool, though, like, is it like new?
52:48 Speaker 07 It's not that new anymore. All I mean by cool is it's not something that's been there for fifty years and they just have tomato sauce and, you know, it's like a
52:58 Speaker 06 Grumpy Waiters?
52:59 Speaker 07 No.
52:59 Speaker 06 Okay.
53:00 Speaker 07 No, very friendly waiters.
53:01 Jessie Ware? Yeah, okay, Via Corota.
53:03 Speaker 07 I also like restaurants that are, you know, here's one that's not particularly, you would go for a gourmet night, you know, but uh Jeans, I'm thinking places around here that's on
53:14 Jessie Ware? Jeans, I haven't heard of it.
53:15 Speaker 07 On Eleventh Street.
53:16 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
53:17 Speaker 07 Is if you want the old world Italian, old New York Italian.
53:21 Jessie Ware? That's what we want.
53:23 Speaker 07 You know, red sauce.
53:25 Jessie Ware? Yes.
53:25 Speaker 07 With clams or, you know, or
53:28 Jessie Ware? Okay.
53:28 Speaker 07 Shrimps.
53:29 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
53:29 Speaker 07 Uh, you know, very simple.
53:31 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
53:32 Speaker 07 But yummy.
53:33 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
53:34 Speaker 07 And just you'll get the atmosphere of uh what New York was.
53:39 Speaker 06 Do they have pictures of actors up on the wall? Where did they pitch was the place that had?
53:45 Speaker 07 Uh, there's a lot of those.
53:46 Speaker 06 Yeah, where they have the
53:47 Speaker 07 Patsy's, that's an old Italian.
53:50 Speaker 06 At home?
53:52 Speaker 07 Yeah.
53:52 Speaker 06 You must have two closets.
53:54 Speaker 07 Yes, definitely.
53:55 Speaker 06 Does Sarah have a bigger one than you?
53:59 Speaker 07 It is bigger than mine. Mine is bigger than one might think.
54:02 Speaker 06 Is it? How many pairs of shoes?
54:05 Speaker 07 More shoes.
54:09 Jessie Ware? He's looking at this side table.
54:10 Speaker 07 Trying to tell you the size of my shoe wall. I have a wall of shoes.
54:15 Jessie Ware? A wall of shoes. You're like Emelda Marcos.
54:17 Speaker 07 I'm like Emelda Marcos.
54:19 Jessie Ware? Oh, no, you're like Goldie Hawn in Overboard.
54:22 Speaker 07 Yes, I'm exactly like that. I know exactly what that is. Yeah, with the cedar closet being built by her husband.
54:30 Jessie Ware? Kurt Russell. Handsome guy.
54:32 Speaker 07 Yes. It's not that mini, but it's weird because you would think, oh, he must like clothes. I have nice shoes because I'm on the radio.
54:44 Speaker 07 Somewhere.
54:47 Speaker 07 I shouldn't have picked these socks.
54:48 Jessie Ware? I like the socks. He's got stripey socks on for anyone that knows.
54:51 Speaker 07 For our listeners at home.
54:53 Jessie Ware? Stripey, fun socks. So you've got a big closet.
54:56 Speaker 07 I kind of have a big closet, but I don't wear much of it very much. I usually wear what's.
55:01 Jessie Ware? What you like.
55:02 Speaker 07 What you like, exactly, which ends up being the same drab crap day after day.
55:07 Jessie Ware? Maybe it's time for a spring clean, Matthew.
55:09 Speaker 07 Might be.
55:10 Jessie Ware? I have two questions for you. What's the best thing about being a New Yorker, a native New Yorker?
55:15 Speaker 07 Boy, what is the best thing? You know, I haven't been anything else, so I don't know how to compare it.
55:21 Jessie Ware? What do you love about this city?
55:22 Speaker 07 I love the city. I love, I take very long walks, particularly if I'm not working,
55:29 Speaker 07 which I started really doing in the pandemic. It was empty and there was nothing to do, but I still do it. I love going from neighborhood to neighborhood. I love the people I see, the food. I like that New York is like, a lot of it's beautiful, but it's also a lot of it's really pretty ugly. But it has a messiness to it that's kind of nice, you know, because Paris is so beautiful or something, but and you think, well, why didn't they save anything in New York? And they just sort of do whatever is practical. They seem to just knock beautiful things down for, you know, it's awful in a way. But it also has this messy, all over the place quality that I also like. I like.
56:13 Speaker 07 I guess I like London in that way, too, that you can go to, it's like you're in a different country if you just walk ten blocks, streets.
56:22 Jessie Ware? I've got one last question. Your sister married you.
56:25 Speaker 07 Yes, that's true.
56:26 Jessie Ware? She performed the ceremony because she's a.
56:29 Speaker 07 She's a priest.
56:29 Jessie Ware? A priest.
56:30 Speaker 07 Yeah.
56:31 Jessie Ware? And can I just ask what flavour the wedding cake was, or did you have a cheese board?
56:37 Speaker 07 Wow.
56:38 Jessie Ware? You've got to remember this, Matthew, because otherwise your wife would be very disappointed.
56:42 Speaker 07 Yeah, that's true.
56:43 Speaker 06 Who did the catering?
56:47 Jessie Ware? Oh, God.
56:49 Speaker 07 It was really, really good food, and we didn't have a sit-down dinner. It was just.
56:54 Speaker 06 Stand-up?
56:55 Speaker 07 Yes, and there was everything.
56:56 Speaker 06 Picky bits or buffet?
56:57 Speaker 07 Yes, picky bits, but really good. A man who's no longer with us, named Robert Isabelle, who was a famous, like, party planner guy, kind of helped plan the whole thing and the food. We had, and all our friends were singing, and the food was great, but I wish, the cake was a big white cake.
57:17 Jessie Ware? Nice.
57:18 Speaker 07 Is that close enough?
57:19 Speaker 06 Yeah.
57:20 Speaker 07 It was very, I think, I don't remember eating the cake.
57:24 Jessie Ware? Oh.
57:25 Speaker 07 Don't you wait a year and then have a bite of the cake?
57:27 Speaker 06 No, I think you save one tear for when you first, the christening of your first child.
57:33 Jessie Ware? Really?
57:34 Speaker 07 I know we had a piece in the freezer that we.
57:36 Speaker 06 Yeah, yeah, the piece in the freezer you keep for your first, the christening.
57:40 Speaker 07 Is that right?
57:40 Speaker 06 Yeah.
57:41 Jessie Ware? Is it still in the freezer in that fridge?
57:43 Speaker 07 I don't even know. I remember that we had a kid. We have three kids, but I don't remember eating the cake when they were born.
57:50 Speaker 06 Are they at college now?
57:52 Speaker 07 Uh, one is at college about to graduate, and the, we have twins who are in high school.
57:58 Jessie Ware? Matthew Broderick, thank you so much for coming on there.
58:01 Speaker 07 Thank you. If I come up with some stories, I'll come back.
58:04 Jessie Ware? Oh, my God, yes. You've written, we'll cook for you in London. If you ever do the West Stand again, you're invited round for dinner.
58:09 Speaker 07 Thank you.
58:09 Speaker 06 I'll make you matzoh balls soon.
58:11 Jessie Ware? We'll do a good cheese board, a good rolo.
58:13 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah. You've memory.
58:15 Jessie Ware? And soft serve.
58:16 Speaker 07 And some soft serve, and some bruschetta and.
58:20 Speaker 06 Yeah. Oh, yeah, we'll do your whole last supper.
58:21 Speaker 07 Okay, and I hope you get a real house soon. You don't have to live here forever.
58:26 Jessie Ware? I mean, look, we're having a New York moment, and it's pretty fabulous.
58:29 Speaker 07 Okay.
58:30 Jessie Ware? Well, thank you, Dan.
58:31 Speaker 07 Thank you.
58:46 Jessie Ware? Matthew Broderick, I loved him.
58:48 Speaker 06 I loved him too.
58:50 Jessie Ware? He was great.
58:51 Speaker 06 He was great and he has a lot of shoes. I wonder if he has more than Sarah.
58:56 Jessie Ware? Doubtful. And also thanks to The Standard for having us here.
59:00 Speaker 06 The view is spectacular.
59:02 Jessie Ware? Unbelievable. And also it was great having Matthew up here because he pointed out every different kind of landmark.
59:09 Speaker 06 Well, I can see great things from my bedroom, can you?
59:11 Jessie Ware? I can see the Hudson River and New Jersey.
59:14 Speaker 06 So I can see the Hudson River too. I also see people packing meat because we're in the meat packers district.
59:21 Jessie Ware? Yeah.
59:22 Speaker 06 The little vans just downstairs.
59:24 Jessie Ware? God bless New York City. We're having the best time ever and we'll see you next week for another New York episode.
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