960: Reacting to the Weird + Creative Corners of the Web

Wes and Scott talk about the weird, creative corners of the web—from live-coded music with Strudel and wild Hydra visuals to shader wizardry, projection-mapping art, fully synced Christmas lights, and more. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 01:10 Strudel https://www.tiktok.com/@dj_dave__/video/7541104277234748685 https://www.tiktok.com/@switch.angel/video/7542776528057257229 03:45 Hydra https://www.tiktok.com/@spacetiger3000/video/7552354878635511095?q=hydra%20video%20synth&t=1762879433461 05:44 P5.js https://www.tiktok.com/@julian_hespenheide/video/7408511121323248929?q=p5.js%20&t=1762879954031 https://www.tiktok.com/@m171148385929472638284/video/7544793538496679190?q=p5.js%20&t=1762879954031 08:03 ShaderToy https://shaders.com/ https://www.shadertoy.com/view/ldlcRf https://www.tiktok.com/@phi.graphics/video/6927475445059292421?q=shadertoy&t=1762879566343 https://www.tiktok.com/@fifi_cgi/video/7255109146062687494?q=shadertoy&t=1762879566343 11:13 Brought to you by Sentry.io 11:37 MadMapper https://www.tiktok.com/@dfiftyd50/video/7556202990529563920 https://www.tiktok.com/@dfiftyd50/video/7569626387577965844?q=projection%20mapping&t=1762879388084 14:13 Touch Designer https://www.reddit.com/r/TouchDesigner/ https://www.tiktok.com/@bedareveryday/video/7558850186601172246?q=Touch%20Designer&t=1762879652502 https://www.tiktok.com/@maze88196/video/7521311510488943894?q=Touch%20Designer&t=1762879652502 https://www.tiktok.com/@valen.bertol/video/7475117172847562039?q=Touch%20Designer&t=1762879652502 16:45 xLights https://www.tiktok.com/@ravespotlight/video/7311729112425516320?q=lights%20christmas&t=1762879799384 https://www.tiktok.com/@thatlightguy_/video/7315199858338565418?q=xlights%20show&t=1762879927155 20:19 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs Sick Picks Scott: NeueCast Wes: 6 Port 2.5G Unmanaged Ethernet Switch UGREEN USB to Ethernet Adapter 2.5Gb Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

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• 0:00Scott Tolinski?

  Welcome to Syntax. Today, we're going to be talking about the weird creative corners of the web. There are a ton of these libraries, communities, projects out there that are some of the coolest stuff you will see using web-based code. And we're going to be talking all about different libraries or different areas of cool things that you might be interested in. So my name is Scott Tolinski. I'm a developer from Denver. With me as always, Wes Boss. What's up, Wes?

• 0:24Wes Bos?

  Hey, I'm stoked about this. So we were at GitHub Universe a couple weeks ago, and before the keynote, they had this DJ Dave. She's a like a creative coder DJ. And I was mesmerized by this. We'll show an example in just a second. But I was just like, man, I love these crazy creative corners of the web where there's just like, like, once you told me it's called Strudel, I went, I looked into it. I was like, this is an entire world of people who are just creating things and are being creative. Cool stuff. And I was like, let's go through. I think there's about seven of them here. And a lot of them are audio visual creative corners of the web. And let's react to them.

• 1:06Wes Bos?

  Let's talk about them and how you can build this type of stuff yourself.

• 1:10Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, let's do it. So let's get into the first one, which is Strudel. We saw, as you mentioned, DJ Dave at GitHub Universe. I'm very familiar with her work before this. So when I saw her there, I was stoked to really see her perform in person. But she's modifying code, she's writing code live, and it's creating electronic music, it's visualizing MIDI. It is a really cool project. And she's exquisite. So great follow on all the socials if you want to check this out. But man, this is a really cool little project.

• 1:45Wes Bos?

  What's really cool about this is if you can't see it, you're listening on audio, is that like, the code is just like running, like you code the loops, and then you you code all the notes. And I know I'm looking like an idiot here, because I actually don't know how music works. But you see, like, the synth lines and all of the notes being hit, they have like, they have little sliders as to where they are, or they're being, they have put a rectangle around it. And it's just like, so mesmerizing to watch. And then, like, a normal DJ would just like, turn knobs or whatever. But she's literally just like, commenting code in and out. And unbelievable. It's so mesmerizing to watch. So DJ Dave, she's one of them. And then also Switch Angel seems to be a big one as well. Here's one.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  With the scope.

• 2:31Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. Let's make our bass.

• 2:36Scott Tolinski?

  I love the visuals too. They're doing it in like Jupiter notebooks, right?

• 2:41Wes Bos?

  Yeah, it's its own thing called like Strudel.

• 2:45Wes Bos?

  And it is JavaScript, except for this like one syntax here, the dollar syntax. I don't know exactly what that is, but seems a way to like define things.

• 2:58Scott Tolinski?

  And it's all very readable, I think. If you, if you've done any music, it's very readable where you can say, I want like C4. And that's like the fourth C on the keyboard, right? So you have like real, it's not like super esoteric and odd.

• 3:16Wes Bos?

  Unreal. And I thought that was like, just a little sliders and stuff in line with the code. I thought that was a very neat way of, of a UI for making music.

• 3:27Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, the Strudel REPL is really fun to mess around in.

• 3:30Wes Bos?

  I'm gonna make some sick stuff. So they have strudel.cc is where you can do it and you can just go ahead and play.

• 3:38Wes Bos?

  Look at me.

• 3:41Scott Tolinski?

  You loaded the REPL and hit play. Nice.

• 3:45Wes Bos?

  So kind of along the same lines is Hydra, which is a similar project, but for video visualizations.

• 3:55Wes Bos?

  So you get to code a whole bunch of stuff. You can do layer, mask, scale, mirror. This is more my, I'm much more of a visual guy.

• 4:03Scott Tolinski?

  Wow.

• 4:08Scott Tolinski?

  Ah, this is awesome.

• 4:11Wes Bos?

  This whole episode, you're gonna wanna just like stop right now and, and go ahead. So this is Space Tiger 3000. It seems like he's pretty good at it. And just this nice chainable syntax, messing things inside of each other.

• 4:25Scott Tolinski?

  The syntax looks so similar to Strudel.

• 4:28Wes Bos?

  Yeah.

• 4:32Scott Tolinski?

  Wow, Hydra looks cool as hell. I am very interested in this. I actually, people who don't know, my background is in programmatic music. That's what I did in college. So I did a lot of Max MSP. I did jitter for video. Some of my first projects were, were building a lot of stuff like this using Max MSP. So like, dang, this is so exciting for me right now.

• 4:57Wes Bos?

  Yeah. And so Hydra dot O Jack dot XYZ is the website. And then you can just load up random ones here and it will give you the code for it. And this is, this is all using WebGL. And then you let her rip. And I'm assuming you can also hook this up to audio so that these can be programmatically fired off.

• 5:20Scott Tolinski?

  You bet you can, yes.

• 5:21Wes Bos?

  Analysis of the audio.

• 5:24Scott Tolinski?

  Dude.

• 5:25Wes Bos?

  It's, they got WinApp or Winamp at the end, Winapp, Winamp at the end of the day.

• 5:30Scott Tolinski?

  They got Winamp? Dude, I, yeah, I'm a big Winamp head. Dang.

• 5:38Scott Tolinski?

  You're officially going to lose me in this episode because I'm going to start really just like playing with all this stuff. Yeah. The next one is P5JS. They actually launched a new beta site recently, beta.p5js.org. And Wes.

• 5:55Wes Bos?

  Sorry, is it too loud for you?

• 5:59Scott Tolinski?

  And P5 is really, really interesting. It is a huge, massive community. It's for working in essentially visual art, working in shapes, working in even like shaders and, and transforming, making animations. It is a whole community of making like really awesome stuff. And P5 uses, does it use 3JS? I think it might use 3JS. It, it's in that same kind of world, but a nicer API. It's in a more friendly API for making art on the web, visual art.

• 6:34Wes Bos?

  Yeah.

• 6:35Scott Tolinski?

  And their, their little tutorials and examples are really good. You can go through and you can. Make various different things, but yeah, like P5 strands, an introduction to shaders. So using P5 for animation, P5 for shaders. This is another one where you'll go through the demos, interactive stuff and just be like, wow, this is really pretty readable, really pretty consumable, but at the same time, very powerful for the type of stuff you can do making all kinds of even like physics-based animations and stuff. It's a neat, neat package and a huge community of people behind this.

• 7:14Wes Bos?

  When I first started WebDome, it was all about processing JS, but it seems that people have moved over to this type of thing. So like 3JS would be more like primitives for doing 3D.

• 7:24Scott Tolinski?

  3D.

• 7:24Wes Bos?

  And then P5 is explicitly for doing things that are a bit more artistic. Not necessarily just because it also is helpful, right? Like I know a lot of data viz, people love P5 because it's a great way to make custom data visualizations.

• 7:41Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, performant, all those types of things. And I have found the API to be more consumable than many other things. Like, I don't know if you've ever tried to get into, man, if you tried to get into WebGL or any of that stuff. Man, it is.

• 7:58Wes Bos?

  Wild. I've tried to get into it many times.

• 8:00Scott Tolinski?

  Shaders and WebGL, yeah.

• 8:03Wes Bos?

  I've been beta testing this shaders.com, which is by Simon, I forget his last name, but he's building like a GUI and an NPM package for building custom shaders. And he's got a whole bunch of things like add noise, add grunge, add gradients, mix blend mode them all together. It's just like, man, people that understand shaders are next level.

• 8:25Scott Tolinski?

  Shaders code is crazy, Wes, because the code, it operates on every pixel at once. So you have to think when you're writing the code, you're not like making a loop to do this pixel, then this pixel, then this pixel. You're writing code that is processing every pixel at the same time. Because it's using your graphics processor to write every pixel at the same time. That is a very paradigm shifting way of thinking. And I've been spending so much time writing shader code using, uh, was it the GLSL? And dude, like no matter how much I write, sometimes I just get into moments where I'm like, I don't know. I have no idea. Like my brain conceptually cannot handle it the right way.

• 9:10Scott Tolinski?

  I, I think I just need more time, but it is something I'm very, very interested in.

• 9:14Wes Bos?

  So let's keep talking about shaders then. Um, shader toy is another one that people really like. So I just, just load this up here and like, what? Look at this code here, you know?

• 9:24Scott Tolinski?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 9:25Wes Bos?

  Every time I look at it.

• 9:26Scott Tolinski?

  This code operates on every pixel at once.

• 9:29Wes Bos?

  Yeah.

• 9:29Scott Tolinski?

  So just to even like, blow your mind even more. Shader toy is one of these sites that when I look at it, I get immediate imposter syndrome. Because I look at this stuff, I know it's a very specialized technique and it's a very specialized, uh, understanding of things, but nothing will make me feel insignificant. Uh, like looking at shader toy code and just being like, man, this is beyond. Here, you want to see a cool one, Wes?

• 10:01Wes Bos?

  Well, look at this one for a sec. Seascape. This is the world. You can pan around and it looks like water. And this is what? A hundred and 204 lines of code? What, what the hell? Where does the water come from?

• 10:16Scott Tolinski?

  Where, where does the water? Uh, I think it came from Mars or an asteroid or something. Uh, Wes, here, I'm sending you one in Slack right now, or I can send it in here. This one is another one that will blow your mind for its simplicity. This one here is 26 lines of code.

• 10:34Wes Bos?

  Oh man, these like loops.

• 10:36Scott Tolinski?

  And it's a freaking cool marble. Oh my God.

• 10:40Wes Bos?

  Cool marble. Using O instead of C would be plus one, just a bit more formatting for better. So the people are like reading this and being like, hmm.

• 10:48Scott Tolinski?

  Hmm.

• 10:49Wes Bos?

  I think you can do that better.

• 10:53Scott Tolinski?

  This is so infuriatingly cool.

• 10:59Wes Bos?

  Unbelievable. This seems like a really old school website as well. It has like a kicking community.

• 11:06Scott Tolinski?

  Is this Lobster?

• 11:08Wes Bos?

  Yeah. Oh, man. Lobster.

• 11:10Scott Tolinski?

  We got Lobster. Lobster alert, folks. And if you want to see all of the errors in your application, you'll want to check out Sentry. At sentry.io/syntax. You don't want a production application out there that, well, you have no visibility into in case something is blowing up and you might not even know it. So head on over to sentry.io/syntax. Again, we've been using this tool for a long time and it totally rules. All right.

• 11:38Wes Bos?

  Next one is something that I stumbled upon on TikTok the other night and I was like, "Damn it."

• 11:44Scott Tolinski?

  I get these served to me all the time. Yes.

• 11:47Wes Bos?

  So you're Mr. Projection. You want to explain what this is?

• 11:51Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah. So, hey, I actually, believe it or not, Wes, in college, one of my courses was "Projection Installation Art." That was a class that I took in college. And your whole thing was you had to create an installation with projectors. Now, this type of software did not exist. What this is, is projection mapping, where you're able to take video, essentially, and project it onto a specific surface. So when you have your projector pointed at something, you can take an image and you can say, "This actually only applies to this corner, or this face, or this face." This actually really became a thing when people were projecting light shows onto buildings and they wanted to have certain things go up into certain places.

• 12:36Scott Tolinski?

  But with software like this, they're able to do such outrageous things. My projection installation class, Wes, I could just project a single shape. I made a keyboard on the wall that you could run through the notes and it would play notes. And how I did that is I had a projection and I knew what that image was supposed to look like, and then I had a camera pointed at that projection. And then I did a diff. If you're standing and breaking this enough of this note, then it will play a note on MIDI. And if you're breaking enough of this note by doing a diff between those two images. So like, video projection installation stuff has gotten crazy. MAD Mapper allows you to, again...

• 13:19Scott Tolinski?

  Take a surface in 3D or a photo, whatever, and you are taking your video and putting it on places. You combine this with something like Hydra or something, you're gonna be crazy town doing some cool stuff. You know who does this kind of stuff? Is Cassie Evans. She mentioned that they they set up some like devices in their living room and just like project and make art and music in their living room or something.

• 13:44Wes Bos?

  That's wild. It's so cool. So like you basically turn your projector on and then you create different like like screens. And then you just drag them around so that the corners line up with things like your cabinet or like the windows. Like you could also do this for like Christmas lights as well. You could just project onto your house. And then you can you can specify what each of the windows are. So cool. I want to do that so bad.

• 14:11Scott Tolinski?

  Yes, I want to do that as well.

• 14:13Wes Bos?

  Kind of in a similar vein as well as this thing called Touch Designer. This is a piece of software where you can do, I don't know, input, output. Basically, you're just taking data in, whether that's video or sound or whatever. And then you are just based on that you are changing it, right? You in the example I'm showing right now is the guy's made an ASCII version from the video of himself. But there it knows no bounds as to what you could possibly do with it. So a lot of like interactive installations are based on this, you know? Like the input could be sound. It could be people touching buttons. It could be, I think I have an example here, which is this one's using Xbox Connect

• 14:57Wes Bos?

  as an input and a video. So and then and then you apply different shaders on top of that. Ah, the Xbox Connect is so cool. And then this is another neat one where it's obviously using some sort of 3D camera because it knows depth. And then based on the depth, it's changing the density of the pixels.

• 15:20Scott Tolinski?

  People are so cool.

• 15:22Wes Bos?

  Yeah. This makes me want to go like, we used to have a thing in Toronto, what we still do is called Nuit Blanche. And it's just an entire evening. You stay up all night and you go to just these random installations in like,

• 15:33Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 15:33Wes Bos?

  churches and random buildings. And then people are just doing weird stuff like this.

• 15:39Scott Tolinski?

  I think I have sent myself into some kind of drug induced coma here with this Hydra. I I've like made this kaleidoscope thing.

• 15:45Wes Bos?

  The tab opened from the one five years ago.

• 15:48Scott Tolinski?

  It is like completely transfixed my brain. I I actually was, I've been working on a fun little project. And like, there were some like audio tones playing in my ears and stuff while I was doing this. And it like sent me into another universe. I felt like I was on another planet. I had to stop working on it. I was like, I feel like this is hypnotizing me or something. I don't know what's going on.

• 16:11Wes Bos?

  Kaleidoscope, color, colorama, rotate, modulate, rotate.

• 16:18Wes Bos?

  And then usually what I do with these things, I just start changing values.

• 16:22Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, I'll show you the one I made just by changing values.

• 16:24Wes Bos?

  They look cool.

• 16:26Scott Tolinski?

  Into Riverside.

• 16:27Wes Bos?

  Wait, you you just made this while you were, we were talking?

• 16:30Scott Tolinski?

  Uh, it was based on another one, but I've modified it enough. Yes.

• 16:34Wes Bos?

  Oh, I see. Whoa.

• 16:36Scott Tolinski?

  So I didn't, I don't know what I'm doing here. I'm just updating values. And now I'm just like, whoa, whoa.

• 16:43Wes Bos?

  Oh, that's so cool.

• 16:45Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 16:46Wes Bos?

  All right, last one. And this is something that I'm starting to get into. It's called X Lights. X Lights is a piece of desktop software where basically you you cover your entire house in Christmas lights. Uh, and then X Lights, you take all of the inputs for each of those lights. And in my case, I'm covering my house in addressable LED. So every single LED can be turned on or off, brightness, whatever color you want at any given time. Um, and then what X Lights does is you can map them in a 3D space. And then you can create these like wipes of your entire house. You can do it to music. You can do shows, you can buy shows.

• 17:24Wes Bos?

  And it's just this wild, wild world. Like, once I got into it, I joined a couple of Facebook groups where these guys are are doing stuff. And it's just like all year long, they're just like working on their Christmas light show. There's music to it as well, hear me.

• 17:41Scott Tolinski?

  Yes. Ah, yes.

• 17:47Wes Bos?

  This is so obnoxious, but so cool. Look at the wipes. Like, the whole house is being wiped.

• 17:59Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, man, I don't even put lights up, which is shocking that I don't. I don't know why I don't put up lights. I think it's just so much of an effort for me.

• 18:06Wes Bos?

  It's a pain in the butt. So I'm doing the permanent ones this year right now, where I'm installing them like in the soffit in like aluminum track. And then I'm working on window frames for all the windows. I'm gonna put them around the garage. I'll see how far I get this year because it's quite a bit of work. But then, once you have them, you can do it. Like, I went to a light show last year and I like, I left that being like, I'm doing this. This is, probably not the music. I think the neighbors would hate me. Mostly just like nice, warm, white.

• 18:36Scott Tolinski?

  Or you could do it for like, a moment and enjoy it. Take a video of it and then be like, alright.

• 18:45Wes Bos?

  Oh, like, some of these guys have like FM, AM transmitters. So they'll be like, "Turn your radio to this this station and it'll play the music over your car."

• 18:58Wes Bos?

  That is cool. So that's Xlights. You can check out this desktop software. Seems relatively easy with a lot of the stuff when I look into it. The Xlights is mostly like, um, like enthusiast area. And like, a lot of people are not technical, you know? So they have a lot of trouble doing it. But then I jump into it and I'm like, man, I'm fairly technical. I understand this stuff. I bet I can make something sick. Hook it up to that. What's the one that you really like?

• 19:26Scott Tolinski?

  Hydra.

• 19:27Wes Bos?

  Hydra?

• 19:27Scott Tolinski?

  Hydra. I'm gonna hook up Hydra to Strudel and I'm going to turn off all the lights in my office and then hook up my projector. And then I'm just gonna, yes, veg out here. It's gonna be great.

• 19:39Wes Bos?

  Oh, that's one we didn't even do is like, the people that do the laser light shows as well.

• 19:43Scott Tolinski?

  Laser light shows. That's man.

• 19:46Wes Bos?

  You end up losing eye.

• 19:48Scott Tolinski?

  The African lasers, yeah.

• 19:50Wes Bos?

  But that is the world of cool, creative and weird on the internet. Let us know down below in the comments if we missed anything, because I would love to dip into a few more of these. And poor Scott is gonna have no more time this week after he starts building things.

• 20:06Scott Tolinski?

  I actually, Wes, we're working on a fun little video here. I'm definitely gonna hook Hydra up to my video now.

• 20:12Wes Bos?

  Oh, that's a great idea.

• 20:13Scott Tolinski?

  It's gonna work so well. Folks, I'm working on something that is very fun. So just a little teaser there. So yeah, let's get into the part of the show where we talk about sick picks and shameless plugs. Stuff that we pick is stuff that we like, stuff that we think is sick, stuff that we're just generally enjoying in life right now. I have a sick pick for you, Wes, and it's a podcast app called NewCast. And it's a minimal style podcast app. And I love the minimal UI for this. I think it's really nice. It is not as full-featured as something like Pocket Casts, I will be honest, but it does most of the things that I wanted to do. I've been noticing Pocket Cast has been like being very odd for me lately.

• 20:55Scott Tolinski?

  Like it's downloading podcasts, but not putting them on my up next playlist and stuff. So I've just been getting a little annoyed with it. And this one is just minimal enough that it's not like unusable. But at the same time, I really do like this, this app. So NewCast is a really nice and minimal podcast app. I cannot get down with Apple Podcasts. I can't get down with any of these over bloated, overcast type of apps. And I certainly, as much as I do love Spotify and I use Spotify for music, I just can't commit to using it for podcasts. I just can't.

• 21:30Wes Bos?

  NewCast, cool. I'm gonna check that out.

• 21:34Scott Tolinski?

  That's nice and pretty.

• 21:35Wes Bos?

  I am going to sick pick a tiny little switch that I just added to my server rack. So I have like a whole unify setup and. The, there's only one 10 gigabit out port that I can do and I have, I've got three gigabit internet. So I've, I wanted to make use of that. So I piped it right to my desk and that's the one thing in my house that can get. It actually only gives me 2.5 gig because that's what my, my dock does. But I recently added a USB to Ethernet to my NAS, my Synology NAS.

• 22:16Wes Bos?

  Somebody told me on Twitter, they said, hey, you can, instead of having to fuss with the two Ethernet ports, which are one gig on your NAS, you can just, for like 20 bucks, you can get like a USB NIC for your Synology and you can install the drivers. And now I have, I, I think I got a 10 gig one or five gig. But basically I have that throughput from my desk to my NAS now. However, I needed, I didn't have enough ports that would did it. All the other ports on my routers are one gig. So I bought this little $30 switch called, it's called NIC Giga, which is a crazy name, but is.

• 22:56Scott Tolinski?

  A little concerned for you, yes.

• 22:57Wes Bos?

  Yeah, I had a very equally pronounced that. And it has two 10 gigabit SPF ports and then four two and a half gig, just regular RJ45s.

• 23:08Scott Tolinski?

  For 33 bucks too, for US prices.

• 23:13Wes Bos?

  For 33 bucks US.

• 23:15Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 23:16Wes Bos?

  Unbelievable. And it worked great. I downloaded a Linux distribution yesterday and it was like four gigs and it downloaded in like, like 22 seconds or something like that. It was nuts how fast it went. And I was like, man, I am not used to having these speeds on my NAS. And then also just like transferring my video files over, it's, it's two and a half times faster. And for, between that little USB thing and the, the little switch, I was 50 bucks in and it was well worth it.

• 23:46Scott Tolinski?

  What is the USB thing you got again?

• 23:49Wes Bos?

  All right. So there is, let me, let me find it right now. One second.

• 23:53Scott Tolinski?

  Cause I, I, when you told me I had to install like custom firmware for this thing, I got a little concerned, but I really. Really should get on this now that I have a Wi-Fi 7 router and everything. For those who are wondering why I said that, my router has 10.

• 24:08Wes Bos?

  You got 10 gigabit. Yeah, I have 10 gigabit out, but then the rest of my router is just, I don't have all of those ports. And mostly it doesn't matter because no devices in my house actually need that.

• 24:21Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, but transferring between my.

• 24:23Wes Bos?

  Your NAS does.

• 24:24Scott Tolinski?

  My NAS, yeah.

• 24:25Wes Bos?

  So here's the USB thing. This is a Ugreen and it doesn't matter that it's Ugreen. It just, you need to make sure that it has a Realtek chip in it. And then what you do is you, you go to the Synology store and there's like a Git repo with the drivers and you just install it via the GUI.

• 24:44Scott Tolinski?

  Oh, via the GUI, okay.

• 24:45Wes Bos?

  And then I did had a, I did had a SSH in and run one command once and, and then it, it started working immediately.

• 24:53Scott Tolinski?

  I, I don't mind that. I, I'm SSHing into my NAS all the time. I was thinking I had to get like crazy with it. So if I was gonna get crazy with it, oh yeah, baby.

• 25:03Wes Bos?

  And then it just, it just shows up in the like Ethernet devices. And then just like a Mac, you go into set source order and then I set the 2.5 gig one to be the first. And then it uses that one from there on. And I also put some, we should do a whole Synology show because like I, I recently upgraded the SSDs, the read and write caches and man, did that make my apps faster. You know, all the stuff running on it got way faster. Not transferring didn't really get faster, but the actual apps, like the, just like thumbnails that were loading from the apps were way faster.

• 25:41Scott Tolinski?

  My SSD or my Synology has been dog slow lately and I don't know why. I think it's, I don't know if it's because it's like full. I actually just filled it up completely. It's 20 terabytes and it's full now. So I'm like having to go into nuclear mode and deleting a bunch of old raw footage from my, like I have raw footage going back from 2012 on LevelUp tutorials.

• 26:03Wes Bos?

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:03Scott Tolinski?

  So like I gotta delete so much of that stuff, but still it's like. Ah, is that why it's so slow? I don't have enough open space available? I don't, I don't know why.

• 26:12Wes Bos?

  Probably not, but maybe. You gotta look at like your, your resource monitor and see what's hogging everything, you know? For me, it was, I was running Coolify on there as a VM. Or no, I was running Coolify as a Docker image. And it was just too much for the, the poor little Synology NAS to, to handle. It was taking too much memory. You know, you're supposed to run those on proper servers.

• 26:37Scott Tolinski?

  I ran, I've moved all that stuff to Mac Mini. That's why, yeah.

• 26:40Wes Bos?

  Home server, that's, that, I, that's what I was doing. I was like, should I just build a home server? You know, I've got this, I have a Mac Pro here. I've got like a couple decent older MacBook Pros. Do I just run those instead?

• 26:54Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, mine's right here. I'm running Minecraft on there, running Plex. I'm running all my stuff, yeah.

• 27:00Wes Bos?

  That's, that's not the, maybe that's the move. But I, my, everything else is super fast right now, except that I'm not running the, I am running a lot of home server stuff, right? And then I'm running a CloudFlare Tunnel on there all the time. We'll do a whole show. We'll do a whole show on home servers. Cause there's some fun stuff to talk about.

• 27:17Scott Tolinski?

  Yes, word.

• 27:18Wes Bos?

  Cool. All right. Thanks for tuning in. Catch you later.

• 27:22Scott Tolinski?

  Peace.