898: Every Developer Needs a 3D Printer

Wes and Scott talk all things 3D printing—from fixing every day items to organizing tools, printing gadgets, and even teaching their kids entrepreneurship. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 03:34 Brought to you by Sentry.io 05:03 Practical uses of 3D printing 07:34 Creating tools for organization Gridfinity 10:33 Improving and adapting everyday items Underware 14:34 The benefits of printing something vs buying it 15:32 Choosing the right 3D printer Bamboo Lab Elegoo Prusa Flashorge 25:26 Projects and ideas Multiboard 31:33 Filament types and their uses 40:05 Finding affordable filament Deal Forager 46:07 Where to find 3D models Maker World yeggi Printables Thangs Thingverse 48:08 Creating your own 3D models Fusion Shapr3D Onshape 53:00 Modifying existing 3D models 54:30 Coding in 3D printing Bento shards ManifoldCAD Hunyuan3D-2mv-Turbo Mecagent 01:01:25 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs Sick Picks Scott: Alaska Bear Organic Silk Sleep Mask Wes: BLV - AMS Riser Shameless Plugs Syntax YouTube Channel Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

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• 0:00Wes Bos?

  Welcome to Syntax. We've got an episode for you on 3D printing. I think that every developer should have a 3D printer. I have held off on it for so long and I've had mine for only a month and a half. And I have gone full tilt. I absolutely love it. I have so much to say about it. So much that I think I convinced Scott to also get one, right?

• 0:21Scott Tolinski?

  Yes. In fact, mine arrived yesterday and it arrived at like 7 o'clock. And you know, I definitely purchased it under the guise of like, my kids will learn so many lessons from this, right? I want them to, and especially, you know, they're going to be excited by like printing toys or whatever. But like, I told them, you know, the point of this is for you guys to think about stuff that you would want. Stuff that, you know, you might want to like even create to sell someday or even like invent some things. Come up with some crazy ideas and they both went to their rooms that night and started just sketching. It was crazy. They were so excited about it. So when it arrived, the first thing they did was just like

• 1:03Scott Tolinski?

  ooh and ah over even like taking off the plastic of it. I've never seen them so enthralled by something. So just arrived yesterday. I've printed a couple of squishy turtles that were like built in on the machine for them. And then like a scraper that came onto it. Now I'm printing some baskets. So I'm on my fourth print and it just got here less than like 12 hours ago. So.

• 1:25Wes Bos?

  Oh, man. So I'm about, I think 500, 600 hours into printing, which I did the math and it's, I think like for the weeks that I've been home, because there's two of those weeks I've been away. It's been printing almost half of the time. So I've just pretty much always have it running. And I'm really excited about it because like both for myself as well as for my kids. I always want to foster this idea of making things and being able to build things and showing them that this is one of the tools in your tool belt is really important to me. So my idea behind this, like I consider myself a maker, right? Like I feel like I have a.

• 2:10Wes Bos?

  High level of skill in not a high level of skill, but I have a high level of skill in in many different areas, right? Like coding, I am I'm very good at. But then I also feel like I'm relatively good at electronics. I'm relatively good at at video, relatively good at graphics and home reno and and building things and whatnot. And that like one area that I've I've sort of had a hole in is is 3D. Both in modeling as well as being able to to 3D prints up and people will come up to me every couple of weeks. Can't believe you don't have a 3D printer. Can't believe it. You gotta get one. So many things that could solve and I've been putting it off because I I don't need another hobby.

• 2:53Wes Bos?

  But I finally hit a point where I realized there are so many problems that could be so quickly solved with having this tool. So for my birthday, I got it this year and I've been been absolutely love loving it. So this show, we're gonna sort of go through explaining 3D printing, what the different printers are, things that you can print, you know, not just printing stupid flexible dragons and whatnot, but like actually using it as a life improver. Talk about the different filaments, talk about designing your own stuff and a little bit about coding models and using AI to to generate models as well.

• 3:34Scott Tolinski?

  Nice. Yeah, I'm I'm stoked for it. And those of you out there who are also makers, there's no doubt that you are making bugs in your applications. That's right, because we all do that. I am currently doing that. I'm working on a bunch of new components and new things for the new syntax website. We're working on the the third version of the syntax website. And I know there's gonna be bugs, so I'm making them right now. So for me, right now, it's especially important that we have a tool like Sentry on our side. So that way, when we launch this thing and when we're testing this thing and we're able to make sure that it one is fast, two, that it it actually works well, three, that it's up all the time. We have uptime monitoring through Sentry. And that our users are having a good experience without errors and

• 4:20Scott Tolinski?

  Bugs and all those things. And if those errors and bugs do happen, we know about it before they have to message. Because you know, who's going to message you saying your site's broken? I mean, maybe syntax listeners are more likely to do that than normal people. But if you're working on a product, man, most people aren't going to message them and be like, hey, the checkout flow didn't work. They're just not going to buy from you. So you want a tool like Sentry on your side. That's S E N T R Y dot I O forward slash syntax. Sign up and use the coupon code TASTY TREAT. Get two months for free. This service and tool is really something extremely important to have on your side. If you are writing production grade software, so check it out at Sentry. This podcast is presented by Sentry.

• 5:03Scott Tolinski?

  And let's talk all about this. You know, I think you gave a great introduction to, you know, just sort of broadly what this is all about. I do really resonate what you said. It's not about printing the 3D dragons. You know, like, because there is so much junk in those, in the makers sites and all these things like that. There's so much junk and I wanted to tell my kids before it came, it's like, listen, sure, we can print some toys here and there, right? But like, this thing isn't going to be about printing toys nonstop for you guys. Or just like fill the house with a bunch of junk. It's going to be like, what can we make that is either inventive, interesting, exciting,

• 5:47Scott Tolinski?

  or getting you, you know, interested in seeing something come to life here?

• 5:53Wes Bos?

  Totally. And I've sort of broken it down into a few of the different areas that I find it to be helpful in. Because when I posted that, I got a lot of people are like, do you have any ideas for things to do? And it's not like I sit around looking for things to print, scrolling through the list and whatnot. It's that there are things in my life, and these are the categories, right? First one is fixing things. I have so many little things that can get broken and.

• 6:23Wes Bos?

  What do you do when something broke, breaks? So for example, uh, we needed this massive baby gate for our house. It's like, like 15 feet long, right? So I found one on Facebook Marketplace and I went to go pick it up. And the lady says, all right, here it is. Oh, by the way, the latch is broken. I was like, oh, you should have told me that, you know? So I'm looking at it there. She's like, you could probably glue it and it, you know, you know, when you glue stuff and it, it just breaks immediately. It's never going to be the same. So I was kind of looking at it being like, um, okay, I'll give you, I, I offered her like 20 bucks for it. I was like, you didn't tell me this was broken. She's like, all right, fine, 20 bucks. So she took it home. I took it home and I was like, all right, well, took, took this piece out.

• 7:05Wes Bos?

  Um, and then I was able to find a similar piece for the same gate. And then I took that and I, I extended the model. Boom, boom, boom, printed it a couple of times to get a perfect fit, slapped it in. Boom, the whole gate is, is fixed, right? And to me, I'm, I'm big on, on saving things and not having to throw things out. So being able to fix things by printing a small little part, huge, um, huge bonus to me. Next one we have is organizing things. This is also huge as well, like hooks, dividers, sorders, rails. So I have these little DeWalt organizers for all of my screws. And I, I built some like wood things where I slide them in and out.

• 7:50Wes Bos?

  Um, and that's good, but I want them on drawer slide. So I can slide it out and open it without having to take the whole thing out. And there's people that have designed these little things that can hook them right into, to rails, right? Or tons of little hooks. I'm printing this whole thing called multi-board where for the gym. So I can hang up all of our different attachments on it. And there's just this huge, it's, it's like open source software. There's millions of different hooks that people have already designed and you could just, you can make your own or you can just download an existing one. And the organization on this stuff is, is top notch.

• 8:28Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, I think that's a big thing for me. I am an organizer in general and we, we've bought so many of these like container store bins and things like that. And they're just.

• 8:38Wes Bos?

  Yeah.

• 8:38Scott Tolinski?

  They're expensive for what they are. They're just so generic in terms of like how they fit into your space. So you end up like cramming like several of them that kind of fit into your, your,

• 8:49Wes Bos?

  Yeah.

• 8:49Scott Tolinski?

  your location. Where like with these systems, I'm really excited to start to take bins that are more, not necessarily like, I'm not going to get crazy into the custom ones that like fit a pair of scissors exactly, but like-

• 9:03Wes Bos?

  Oh yeah, that, that seems like a bit much where like-

• 9:06Scott Tolinski?

  It seems like a bit much.

• 9:07Wes Bos?

  People take, what we're talking about is people, there's this thing called Gridfinity, where people take their drawer and you, you make your whole drawer into a grid and then you can like make little cups and little scissor outlines-

• 9:20Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 9:20Wes Bos?

  for every single tool that you want. And there's no chance I would stay on that because I'm, as soon as I get one new thing-

• 9:26Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, where's it gonna go?

• 9:27Wes Bos?

  then what do you do? Or like the people that show examples like, oh, you have three tools? Like, I have literally thousands of tools.

• 9:34Scott Tolinski?

  I do plan on using, that's it, I do plan on using Gridfinity for my drawers.

• 9:39Wes Bos?

  Yeah.

• 9:39Scott Tolinski?

  Uh, just, just like with the more generic, just, uh, system for, cause I have seen some really good ones for like, especially like cameras and lenses of which I have- of which are just in bags and stuff like, I mean, like padded camera bags and stuff, but like, I could really use a system for that. And my drawers are definitely not being utilized, uh, in a good way, cause I just toss in there. So, yeah.

• 10:01Wes Bos?

  There's a whole system out there called underwear, which is for cable management. So you basically put, you put this, um, grid on the bottom of your desk called multi-board. That's what I've been printing for the gym, but then you can, there's a whole system of stuff that clicks into the multi-board-

• 10:17Scott Tolinski?

  Hmm.

• 10:18Wes Bos?

  for, um, like power bricks and, and hubs and cords and cable management and all kinds of stuff, which I very much need to do under my desk.

• 10:29Scott Tolinski?

  Hmm. I gotta get into that.

• 10:30Wes Bos?

  Yeah, the organization is, is a pretty cool area. Um, improving things is, is another area where you have a product and you want to improve it. So for example, at our cottage, we have a little Google Home. Um, and where the plug is, it, it sucks, right? So we just kind of have it sitting on the ground, right? And I just 3D printed this thing, the Google Home goes in it, the cord wraps around it and it hangs right out of the plug. That's a simple little thing. And you can buy them on Amazon for 15 bucks or you can print one for like a dollar's worth of, worth of filament. Randy, our, our producer, he just borrowed one from his friend and he's going bananas with- Printing all kinds of like adapters for his rack mount stuff. He printed a little monitor

• 11:14Wes Bos?

  stand that like it's like a little drawer that goes underneath his monitor. Basically, like taking products that are popular and simply just improving them a little bit by adding a little adapter or adding a drawer to something seems like a great approach.

• 11:31Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, there's so many things here. And another one you have here is adapting things. Shop vac mounts, all kinds of little things. If you go into any of these, you know, whatever maker apps or websites or whatever, you can just search for, I have this specific tool. And the amount of different mounts or attachments or additions or anything onto your various devices, it's crazy, the amount of stuff that exists for this. I think that's been the most shocking thing for me is just how many things there are out there that fit everything. Yeah.

• 12:08Wes Bos?

  Yeah, like it's amazing that like, we're going to talk about building your own things and designing your own things. But like 90% of the time, somebody's already made it. You can just go ahead and find it. So the adapters are huge. I made a bib dryer as well that hooked on. So our sink, we have this like main post where the, the, the water comes out, right? And we have a little sprayer. So I built this little like collar that goes on the sink and then has two little ears that come off of it. And we can take our baby's bibs and put them on that and they just drip into the sink, you know, like that doesn't exist because our, it's a very specific sink, you know, and I was able to just quickly

• 12:49Wes Bos?

  mock it up and print it. And it's so nice to be able to do that. And then the last thing is just like, I, I say it's just junk, right? Like toys, fidgets, cardboard construction. We still do print quite a bit of those. My kids love them. My daughter was bringing them to school and selling them. She got in a bit of trouble for that.

• 13:09Scott Tolinski?

  I was wondering about that.

• 13:10Wes Bos?

  I'm all for it. Cause like, I was always like a little huckster as a kid, you know, bringing them to school, trying to sell it. Whatnot. So she was starting to like sell it for money and for what she was trading it for like gum and things like that. But then we got an email from the teacher, which I knew was coming, but I, I was like, go for it. Go for it until they tell you not to.

• 13:33Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, it, it is funny. I, I come from the, the era. I'm sure. I mean, we're from the same era, but in, in our school districts, it was always like, you cannot bring pogs to school because kids are trading and fighting over pogs and selling pogs and all like, there were, there were such a, you know, firm line against like bringing stuff to sell. Yeah. On school property. Nobody liked that, just specifically because of pogs. I think they were, were getting out of control. Then maybe, uh, you know, Pokemon stuff eventually, but yeah, I, it is, uh, something that I, I would encourage our kids to think of things that they could sell on Etsy, even if not a single one sells, just for that experience of like,

• 14:15Scott Tolinski?

  let's come up with an idea of something that you would want, that you think other kids might want. Let's make it and let's try to sell it and you know, and you can tweak on that or whatever. It does not matter. Like I said, if it sells, I just want them to get those experiences of creating a product and, and really getting through that.

• 14:34Wes Bos?

  Last thing I'll say about this is it's almost always cheaper, faster and, and better than buying something off of Amazon. I've been, been finding because you can get it, obviously you can get it faster. It's dirt cheap to print this stuff. And it often is the exact size or the exact fit that you need. And not something that is, is sort of close enough to, to what you want. So that's also been a, a massive improvement, uh, for this type of thing. You know, people are always asking like, it's kind of an expensive printer, but like, even just the wall storage alone that I've printed for our gym, if I were to buy that in, in pegboard and pegboard attachments,

• 15:19Wes Bos?

  or if I were to use, um, like the IKEA scatus, it would have been a couple hundred dollars. And I probably paid for 20% of the printer on that, that one thing itself.

• 15:30Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, crazy. Yeah.

• 15:32Wes Bos?

  So let's talk about the actual printers. We're going to be talking about like filament printers, meaning that you get these rolls of 1.75 millimeter plastic. There's also resin printers, which is a totally different ballgame. We're not going to dip into that. There are lots of different printers out there. Right now, at the time we're recording, the, some of the best ones are from Bamboo Labs, and they are a Chinese company that is aggressively taking over the space because the space is traditionally very much open source and build your own printer and like very community oriented. And it's a relatively large company sort of coming in. They sponsor

• 16:16Wes Bos?

  every single YouTuber out there. By the way, neither Scott or I got our bamboos for, for free. I have no contact with them if, if you're wondering, but they do, they literally will give anybody with a pulse a free printer if they'll make a video about it. Yeah. Well, I like, I, I thought about it, but I was like, I hate having to like do these like brand deals where you gotta like make a video and whatever. Just it's too much of a pain in the butt.

• 16:41Scott Tolinski?

  And even if they're like, they sent this to me for free, but my opinions are not, you know, beholden to that. It's always like, okay, sure. You know, sure they aren't. Yeah. They sent you

• 16:52Wes Bos?

  Yeah, I agree, but you also got a sick printer for free. Yeah.

• 16:55Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 16:56Wes Bos?

  Which I, I'm not above, so I will still do it. Yeah. If you like to send me one.

• 17:01Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, just I could take two. So Bamboo, get at us. Yeah. I'll wear the hat.

• 17:06Wes Bos?

  Which one did you get?

• 17:07Scott Tolinski?

  I got the, the Bamboo Lab X1C. I got it and like a couple of days after, maybe like one day after I bought it, my friend, former guest on the show, Topher, was like, hey, did you get it before the tariff price increase? And I was like, what? And I got it like, what, like maybe 24 hours before they bumped the price by several hundred dollars?

• 17:33Wes Bos?

  I was just gonna ask that. Yeah.

• 17:36Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, I got really lucky on that one. Holy cow. I had no idea.

• 17:39Wes Bos?

  That's great. I also got the, the X1C because...

• 17:44Wes Bos?

  3D printers are very fussy.

• 17:46Scott Tolinski?

  Yes.

• 17:47Wes Bos?

  And Bamboo has come out with this X1C. They have a couple of other models as well where they take a lot of the fussiness out of it. So previously you've had to level beds on a lot of the models and some of them need a heated chamber and then there's a heated bottom and there's just a lot that can go wrong. Think about how awful a color printer is and why literally nobody has a color printer anymore because they're so awful to work with. That's 2D. You know, if you've ever opened up just a regular printer, there's a lot going on there. So imagine you also have to do something that is 0.2mm precision, but in every axis

• 18:31Wes Bos?

  and things are heated and it's different materials like this gummy stuff that can clog it up. And there's a lot that can go wrong. There's so many different variables and if you don't like that type of thing, you don't like the sort of hobby of trying to fix things and whatnot. I do like that type of thing, but I honestly don't need to fuss with something else because I have a lot to fuss with in my life right now. So the Bamboo is just basically you just buy the thing, you plug it in and while it is quite a bit more than a lot of their competitors, it's like the apple of the 3D printer world where it mostly just works.

• 19:13Scott Tolinski?

  I gotta say.

• 19:13Wes Bos?

  And it's really good.

• 19:15Scott Tolinski?

  That was the thing I was the most impressed about, about the entire experience getting up and running. I've set up so many different tech things and I gotta say, there was so few roadblocks in getting this thing going. It's like, I was just shocked at every single thing I was supposed to unscrew had an arrow pointing to it. Every single thing I was supposed to do and step by step was perfectly outlined with no things missing. You just did it, you know, you set it up, you plugged in the stuff here and there, I clicked print and the first thing I printed came out perfect. It's just like, alright, this is amazing and the app is great, the ecosystem is great. I was able to even this morning, just click on something, a couple of things on my phone and click print directly from my phone.

• 20:00Scott Tolinski?

  It has a little camera inside and I can watch it print. It's just like, wow.

• 20:04Wes Bos?

  It has LiDAR on it. So what it will do is it will constantly monitor with the camera in the LiDAR. And if there is what's called a spaghetti failure, where it it lays down basically layers of plastic. And if one of those layers doesn't stick, or the whole item you're printing becomes unstuck from the plate that it's printing on, it will just start spewing plastic into the air. And you can come back hours later and just find just this whole spaghetti mess. So it will try to detect when that that type of thing happens. And it will pause the print and send a message to your phone.

• 20:43Wes Bos?

  A lot of the other ones, so Elugu, Prusa, Flashorge, there's several other big names in in the space as well that are also have similar features as well. The Elugu Centuri Carbon is a new one that is. So the one we got was, let's talk in US. I paid 1600 Canadian. What did you pay?

• 21:05Scott Tolinski?

  Uh, 1500 US, yeah.

• 21:08Wes Bos?

  Okay, so you maybe you did get some tariff then as well because.

• 21:12Scott Tolinski?

  No, it's like the combo. It was like, yeah, the combo price. I think I'm talking about like after tax and everything.

• 21:19Wes Bos?

  Okay.

• 21:19Scott Tolinski?

  After tax and ship, yeah, I guess I didn't pay shipping, but after tax, all said and done.

• 21:23Wes Bos?

  About that. Okay, so they, Elugu has one that's like, like 300 or 400 bucks as well. So significantly cheaper, doesn't have all of the the nice features, but it's it's fairly similar. And then also Bamboo also has several models as well. You can go down the YouTube rabbit hole, watching everybody compare them all. But if, right now, if you want just to not fuss with it, the X1C is probably your best bet. And they, just about a week ago, they just announced one called the H2D, which has two nozzles. So maybe we should talk about that as well. So if you want to print multiple colors, the X1C, you can buy it with what's called the AMS, the Automatic Material System.

• 22:08Wes Bos?

  And you can do four rolls up top. And that, what it will do is you, between those four rolls, it will allow you to switch colors. So if you're printing something that is, is multiple colors, like the Syntax logo right here, in my case, I printed all the black first, and then it goes and purges. It's called poop. It poops out all of the rest of the black, and then it loads the yellow up. And I don't have to like, stand there and wait for it to manually switch, which is, you need something like that. Otherwise, you're going to be manually feeding in the filament every single time you want to load a different color. And I bought a, like a hundred dollar one at an Amazon return auction, just to like, fuss with one a little

• 22:53Wes Bos?

  bit more. And it's, it's a lot of work, having to do it on and off. And it makes you not want to print it, because it's so much extra work.

• 23:01Scott Tolinski?

  That's specifically why I got the X1C, or the Bamboo in general. I was looking for specifically, the thing that would be the least amount of effort for me. Because I knew that, yeah, I need that. In my life right now, that's what I need, yes.

• 23:16Wes Bos?

  Exactly. So you, you can load up all the colors that you need, and just hit print, and it will switch between the things. And you can also do multiple colors on the same layer, and it will switch between the two. It's a little bit more wasteful, because every single time it switches colors, it has to purge the resin that's in the nozzle. And the H2D has two different nozzles, which is both faster and is less wasteful on the plastic. Yeah. So, those are the printers out there. I would highly recommend getting the best one that you can afford, just because you're going to want to print big stuff, and you're going to want to print as fast as you possibly can. Because this stuff takes, takes a long time to print these things. Like this, this Syntax logo took about two

• 24:01Wes Bos?

  hours this morning. But I've, I've done stuff that has, has taken like, 30 hours, which, it's, it's an absolute marathon. And even the- The big pegboard that I printed, it was maybe three feet by five feet. And I think that cumulative was something like 90 hours of of printing or something like that.

• 24:24Scott Tolinski?

  Just so the whole thing, you're doing it in pieces, right?

• 24:26Wes Bos?

  Yeah, yeah. Every single one took about five or six hours, every single grid. And I had 24 of the grids, something like that. So it it took quite a bit of time. And basically, every morning I would run downstairs, grab the old one off, hit print again. And then I would, I have it in my office, so I don't have it on when I'm recording because it's a little bit loud. But I'll try to like, set something up at first thing in the morning. I'll try to set something up just when I'm finishing work and then I'll try to set something up overnight as well.

• 24:59Scott Tolinski?

  I have mine in the basement storage area. I'd like to build a little workshop table for it. Right now, it's on a plyometric box that I have not been using. And I made a long time ago. I built this like really sturdy great plyometric box and our kids are always like, what is this wooden box here for in the storage room? Oh, guys, let me tell you, when you get to be my age, you cannot do a bunch of jumping on boxes, at least with my knees. So yes.

• 25:26Wes Bos?

  Let's rattle through a couple of things I printed really quickly. So I talked about the multi-board, which is really nice. Check out the multi-board ecosystem. My whole mini fridge I redid with pop can dispensers. So it's like a bodega where they they roll forward. And that was absolutely great because I could never fit the pop cans perfectly in in there. And like that kind of thing really bothers me where I want to fit as many as I possibly can. So I printed 11 dispensers for like beer and soda cans. The baby bib dryer, I designed and printed that. The rack, I'll try to add some photos over top of here. But my audio interface, my kids come in and turn the knobs on my audio interface.

• 26:11Wes Bos?

  And they did it. I lost about half an hour worth of recording. We had a big talk with them. This is half of a parenting issue and half of a access issue.

• 26:23Wes Bos?

  I finally was like, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna make something. So I made this little thing that goes, it's a one U server rack cover and then I slid a piece of glass into the front. And it's just, it's very fun to design and it looks great. And now the kids can't get access to turning the knobs when I'm not in here.

• 26:43Scott Tolinski?

  It's perfect. It is a, it's a great solution too.

• 26:46Wes Bos?

  Yes.

• 26:46Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 26:47Wes Bos?

  Garbage bag dispenser. This one is huge for me. So we buy these like Kirkland garbage bags. And I found a model that you can hang under the sink in like the most unused piece of space in our entire kitchen, which is like beside the sink underneath, kind of like underneath. And I just screwed it in and then you can just rip a bag out. And every single time I use them, mm, that was nice. Rather than just having like a random box of garbage bags under the sink taking up space. Coffee filter holder, pretty much like every little aspect of my life where I'm like, hmm, that's slightly annoying. I bet I can solve that with 3D printing.

• 27:28Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah. And in that regard, have you been finding a lot of these things off the shelf on websites? Or have you been designing most of them or half of them? Like what percentage are you having to get into modeling for these?

• 27:40Wes Bos?

  Probably like 70, 80% of the stuff is already done. And for the rest of them, I've been trying to like, not even look for some things because I want to get better and faster at modeling. So anytime there's something that is relatively simple, I will not even look and try to just model it myself so that when it comes time to something that is significantly harder, my skills will be there. So for example, this morning I was in the gym and I, I don't have a good spot to put my AirPods. And I was like, I was like putting them on the bench, but then when I go on the bench, I have to move them. And I was like, you know what I gotta build?

• 28:22Wes Bos?

  A tiny little cup for my AirPods that has magnets in it. So one thing you can do is you can, you can model something with a void that is the size of a magnet and you can, when you slice the print, we basically take the 3D model, you bring it into your slicer, Bamboo Studios is the one that I use, and you can tell it to pause at a certain point. And you basically put a pause when it hits the, the layer where the void is, pop a little magnet in and then tell it to continue. So that's what I'm gonna do. Maybe tonight, I'm gonna model up a little AirPods holder that has a magnet in it. And then I'll be able to slap it on my rack and be able to, to put my AirPods in it. It's

• 29:04Wes Bos?

  just like little things like that. Like that probably exists already, but I'm, it's specifically not looking for it because I wanna get better at it.

• 29:11Scott Tolinski?

  Rack City. What kind of little magnets are you using? Is there a standard magnet? Little magnet size that the people tend to go for?

• 29:21Wes Bos?

  Oh, there's, there's like three or four different.

• 29:23Scott Tolinski?

  Okay. So there's not one standard one?

• 29:26Wes Bos?

  No, but they're all, you could get yourself a pair of, of these. There's just calipers. And you just, whatever you need to put in there, you just kinda measure it up and then you can model it relatively quickly. So, and you can buy them, you can buy them on Amazon or AliExpress or whatever. And for most cases, those are, are pretty good. But if you want like very good magnets, go to like a, like a reputable supplier that sells, sells magnets.

• 29:54Scott Tolinski?

  I wanted to, to ask about the environment. You said you keep yours in your office. So you don't have it in your, your workshop? Cause I've been to your little workshop and it's, it's pretty dope. Why, why not keep it in the workshop?

• 30:06Wes Bos?

  Yeah. So my workshop is actually built in a cantina, which is, we live in like a very Italian neighborhood and everybody has a back porch and underneath their back porch is like this concrete room. You hang your salamis and you put your wine in there. And it's awesome, but it gets cold in the winter and. While the bamboo has a heated chamber, like it's a box that closes the door, I wasn't sure that I wanted to do that because I wasn't sure if it would work well. So I just put it in my office. I set it up now. I do have a couple of other storage rooms I could put it in. But I kind of just like being able to look over and see how it's working, especially when I'm changing filament colors.

• 30:51Wes Bos?

  You can just look over at what you got in there and set it up. So yeah, I've kind of like having it in my office. I was a little worried about fumes.

• 31:02Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:04Wes Bos?

  Because you're obviously printing plastic. We'll talk about the types of plastic in just a second. But it's not been an issue for me, except when I'm printing ABS. So yeah, I like it in there and I it's on top of my mini fridge. I put a whole bunch of the filament boxes that I got. I have them hanging on the wall and while I thought I would move it, I think I'm just gonna gonna keep it in my office. Cause it's kind of a cool, it's a cool thing to have in your office as well.

• 31:33Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah. So, okay, that's a good transition to filament. Filament is the types of materials that you are melting down and extruding, of which there's several different varieties. Wes mentioned ABS a second ago. PLA being the kind of the most common, most basic one. In fact, just about all the little things that I've done so far have all been PLA. But there are other types of filament that can get into different use cases. And what's interesting is that like this printer specifically can even print like kind of more interesting filaments like.

• 32:09Wes Bos?

  Exotics.

• 32:10Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, exotics, like carbon fiber infused filaments or glass infused filaments, those types of things. It's crazy.

• 32:17Wes Bos?

  It's a wild, wild world. So if you're just getting started, you're gonna probably start with PLA. And PLA is made from, it's generally made from corn. It's the same stuff that they make. You know, you go to like a hipster coffee shop and you get the like biodegradable cup.

• 32:35Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 32:36Wes Bos?

  That's what PLA is made out of and it has a very low melting temperature. It. Is very easy to work with. It doesn't have a lot of errors and it's relatively cheap. So that's kind of why PLA is like the sort of intro one and that's most of of what I have with this type of stuff. PLA, they say it's it's it's like made from corn. It has a slightly sweet smell when it's printing, which is kind of nice. Like it smells good when it's printing, which is wild if you think about burning plastic smelling good. Everyone says it's like biodegradable. I don't buy that. People have like put PLA out in their garden for five years and it's it's really strong.

• 33:20Scott Tolinski?

  No, I think it is biodegradable over like the course of 100 plus years or something.

• 33:25Wes Bos?

  Yeah, or via like a commercial composting with a high heat. So PLA is probably the most popular. PET G is like the second in command. PET G is a little bit more, this is what I printed this in. It's a little bit stronger, a little bit more weather resistant. So if you're doing something that's going to be sitting in the sun, or maybe outside, or you just need like a little bit more strength, PET G might be the better bet. PLA is a little bit more flexible and PET G is a little bit more rigid. So it depends on like, what do you need the strength for? You know, do you need something to be a little bit flexible in that? Or do you need something to be very rigid?

• 34:06Scott Tolinski?

  I've heard that ASA is good for outdoor, like, and things that will be getting a lot of sun use. Have you used any of that or thought about?

• 34:16Wes Bos?

  I haven't even done any any ASA yet. I don't, we'll see. I haven't dipped into too many outdoor things just yet. But the other thing about it is, I don't necessarily care if it doesn't last like 30 years, because I could just, you could just print another one with like a lot of the stuff, like the baby gate. I just printed it in PLA. And I was like, I'll see how this holds up. And it's been, the kids are slamming it all the time. You know, it's, it's literally the, I'll post a photo of it. So PET G, you can also get clear PET G. Which is kind of cool. TPU is like a flexible one. So some of the prints I've done needed like a gasket in them.

• 35:01Wes Bos?

  So one thing I did is I printed a little box for my nephew with his name on it and for it to be waterproof. And like seal really nicely, I put a TPU gasket in it. And then I also printed a riser for my X1C. And in order to seal the glass on top, I had to print a gasket out of that. People, you could print Crocs with TPU, which is kind of wild. It's kind of expensive, so you probably don't want to, but you can. And then you have ABS, which is, ABS is what you're like, your plumbing, your sewer pipe is made out of. And ABS is extremely strong, it's extremely cheap, but it's, has very bad fumes.

• 35:46Wes Bos?

  It's both smelly and I don't think it's good for you to breathe in, so it's not a very popular choice. I do have a couple of rolls of it. And I had to keep the window open when I was, was printing with it. A couple of tool mounts. So I've got a Ryobi 18 gauge nailer. And I've never been able to hang it up because it's such a weird shape. And I found a hook that somebody made for exactly that model of nailer. And I just printed the thing up. And I also printed a whole bunch of battery holders for all my tool batteries. And I did that in ABS, so it would be as strong as possible because I'm always hitting it and throwing stuff up on it.

• 36:29Wes Bos?

  And then like, out of all of those different types, there's like basic, there's matte. The matte versions look the best in my opinions. The opposite of matte is silk. And I printed this one in, in silk. And you can see a lot of the layer lines. So the more shiny it is. The more it shows the little imperfections. And then the more matte it is, in my opinion, the better it looks. So I've been trying to go with either just the basic PLA or going matte with a lot of these. And then there's rainbow, there's galaxy, there's stone looking ones. There's all kinds of really fun ones you can buy.

• 37:15Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, I think that's, my wife Courtney, I think that's one of her problems with it is like, she hasn't seen anything that looks like it wasn't made out of a 3D printer, which I'm sure most of the things do. So it's going to be finding what that right combination of things are to get it looking perfect.

• 37:32Wes Bos?

  The bamboo makes the everything look amazing. Like the first couple of things I printed, I posted on Twitter and so many people were like, that looks, I'm just used to these like garbage stringy layer lines. And it looks very, very good, especially so when you, when you print them, you have these different plates and you can get these plates that are micro etched. And this, so I'm showing right now, I'm showing a rainbow star one. This one is, has like a rainbow glitter. There's a carbon fiber one, this kind of like cool thing. There's, there's flat.

• 38:16Wes Bos?

  And when you print it on that, the patterns of these plates are mirrored on your thing.

• 38:22Scott Tolinski?

  Oh, okay.

• 38:23Wes Bos?

  You can get really cool. This is like the basic background where it's kind of just a pebbled look. It looks really nice.

• 38:31Scott Tolinski?

  Huh, I didn't, I didn't realize that. That's interesting.

• 38:34Wes Bos?

  Yeah, it's a, it's a wild world going into all the different, all the different upgrades and whatnot.

• 38:41Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, I've been watching so much 3D printing YouTube. I know all of the top 10 upgrades you need to make to your X1C right now.

• 38:48Wes Bos?

  Oh, yeah.

• 38:49Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 38:50Wes Bos?

  So good. So on, when you buy a spool of bamboo filament, it comes with a little RFID tag in it. And when you put it into the AMS on top of the printer, it scans that RFID tag and it automatically tells you in the software what colors you have in. And if you buy filament that is not from bamboo, like I have a spool from Sunlu here, you have to manually go in and do that yourself. People are working right now on they figured out how to cryptographically decode all of those tags. And then there's also several other projects out there right now, which are trying to replicate the sort of the same experience,

• 39:33Wes Bos?

  where you just, you tap a filament spool against some sort of RFID reader and it will send that data over to your printer over MQTT. So I bought a Proxmark III, which is for reading and writing RFID tags. And I'm going to be getting into that. But what I've, what I've been doing is I just taking the RFID tags off of the bamboo ones and I'm putting them on the equivalent of third-party spools. And it, it works. It works great. No problems. I've been, the bamboo filament is a little bit expensive, but it's, it's very good. But I've also bought lots of, of cheap filament. And that stuff has been, I've had almost no issues.

• 40:17Wes Bos?

  Except I had one clog from the marble PLA. And I think it's because, I don't know, there was a little speck of something in that PLA that got caught in the extruder. And I had to, I had to do a process where I pulled out the filament and I found it. It was like a little speck of something that was clogging it up.

• 40:39Scott Tolinski?

  Interesting. So in your experience, you have gone cheaper. And when you go cheaper, where are you getting that filament from?

• 40:46Wes Bos?

  In Canada at least, the bamboo filament, if you buy four or more is 19 bucks or 20 bucks a roll, which is 14 and a half bucks US for a refill.

• 41:00Wes Bos?

  And it's great because you can reuse these spools and you just slap it on there. It comes with it. So it's honestly not that bad of a deal if you're buying the refills. And then you just stay in the system and it just works, you know? But the thing is that there's so many cool colors that bamboo doesn't have. So I've been been trying to find them from all over the place. So I have found really good success on on Amazon in Canada. I've found one really good deal. I think it was a misprint. I found six kilograms for 66 Canadian, which turns out to be 11 CAD to USD is $7.88 Canadian, which is really, really cheap.

• 41:44Wes Bos?

  So I bought 12 in just like matte white because I I print so much like tester stuff. And I was like, I just need like a really cheap filament and it's been been absolutely awesome. So Amazon's really good. Amazon warehouse returns. When people return stuff to Amazon, they often put it back for sale for 30, 40% less. So if you check, there's a website dealforager.com, just search for filament. You can often find really good deals on there. I just ordered some like 30 kilograms off of Timu, which I might be a scam. I don't know, but like it it shipped and it shipped via FedEx.

• 42:25Wes Bos?

  And the FedEx is telling me that it is the same weight as as I would expect. But like, I think every now and then these sellers on on Timu and whatnot will put stuff really cheap. So they can they can drum up a bunch of reviews. So I I found it and I was like, holy, this is really, really cheap. So I ordered like every color that they possibly had and now the price has gone back up. So we'll see if I get a box of rocks or not.

• 42:55Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 42:55Wes Bos?

  It was like something like $8 a kilogram, which is less than half of what I normally can buy it.

• 43:01Scott Tolinski?

  I love your adventurous spirit here in these types of things. I don't think I would. If I would have seen that, I'd be like, that's a scam. I'm not doing it.

• 43:07Wes Bos?

  I was just like, like, why not? You know, like, there's, there's, there's zero risk. People are always like, oh, you're, they're gonna steal your credit card. They're not gonna steal your credit card number. Like, it's

• 43:18Scott Tolinski?

  No, they might steal your money, but they're probably not gonna steal your credit card.

• 43:20Wes Bos?

  Well, if they do, then you, you get it back. You, you file a charge back, or you, you contact them and say that I didn't get what I wanted. Yeah. Zero, zero risk, I think.

• 43:31Wes Bos?

  We'll see. I spent a couple hundred bucks on, uh, maybe a box of rocks, but, but stay tuned. I found a bunch on, on Facebook Marketplace as well, because like, a lot of people get into 3D printing. They print a couple snakes. And then they're like, oh, I don't know what else to do. So they, they sell it all. And, and that's often a good spot to find a whole bunch of filament. You do have to be careful because the filament absorbs water. It just from the humidity in the air. So I have all of my filament in these boxes, which are cereal boxes. In the lids of these boxes, I printed these little dessin holders. And you put, you know, like you buy a pair of shoes and it's like, do not eat.

• 44:14Wes Bos?

  You can put dessin beads in there, and then that goes, um, in the lid of the, the box. And that keeps the humidity low in there. But if you have a roll of filament sitting out, apparently, if you have it sitting out for too long in a humid environment, which in the summering in Ontario, it is extremely humid here. It starts to absorb water, and then that can affect the, the quality of your prints quite a bit.

• 44:40Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, that, that's one of the reasons I'm thinking. I'm sure there's still moisture in the air in Colorado here, but it's so dry. Uh, that like, I'm lucky, I'm gonna have to worry less about that. What kind of bins are those? Like, you said they were, uh,

• 44:53Wes Bos?

  Yeah.

• 44:54Scott Tolinski?

  Cereal boxes?

• 44:55Wes Bos?

  Yeah, in the, in the 3D, in the 3D printing world, there's like, this is like the bin. This is what everybody does. And the, all they call it is the, the cereal bin with the hex on top. And that you can buy them on Amazon, and there's a thousand different sellers of them. People have built rollers that you can roll it on. I built these little Uh, humidity sensor holders for each of mine. Um, and then there's these little label holders. I gotta put the labels in it yet, but.

• 45:25Scott Tolinski?

  You're, you're gonna have individual humidity sensors on every single one of those?

• 45:29Wes Bos?

  Yeah, I do. I'll, I'll throw up a, a photo of it right now, but I have, I think I have a wall of 22 bins right now and every single one has its, has its own humidity sensor in it. Um, just so you can kind of keep an eye on, on what everything is like. That's always the joke about 3D printing is people just buy a 3D printer to buy to 3D print.

• 45:55Scott Tolinski?

  Buy stuff.

• 45:55Wes Bos?

  3D printer stuff.

• 45:56Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 45:57Wes Bos?

  Uh, yeah, to buy stuff. It's, it's, it's a hobby, you know, and, and people love getting really into the hobby, which I am, I'm big on that.

• 46:04Scott Tolinski?

  Hey, uh, I feel you.

• 46:07Wes Bos?

  Uh, models. Let's talk about where to get them. Maker World is the model from Bamboo, like the kind of like GitHub of models. Again, there's a lot of drama around them because they were, they're doing a bunch of like scraping and whatnot, but it's a pretty good spot to find models. Printables, Thangs, Thingverse. There's lots of different model marketplaces up there and you pretty much have to like search them all. And I use a search engine called Yegi. Y E G G I. And this will search all of the different models because the people who are the best at designing this stuff are often uploading to different, like printable, printable seems to be the one where like the smartest people are.

• 46:52Wes Bos?

  You, you kind of want to search them all when you're looking for something, especially for something extremely niche, like a bracket for a baby gate or, or something weird like that. But it's surprisingly, you, you'll be surprised at how many things that are already out there.

• 47:08Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, I was shocked, honestly. That was the most impressive thing when I started looking.

• 47:13Wes Bos?

  The one thing about Maker World is that they give people, you get these things called boosts every now and then, and then they give people points for how many downloads and boosts they have. So it's, it's almost like another social network where people are vying for your boosts. Because you can then, if you have a very, a model that goes extremely popular, you can, you can make quite a bit of points for them and then you can, you can turn them into filament or you can buy another printer with them. So it, people spend a lot of time like mocking up the landing pages and doing examples and like, it's just this whole, whole thing, which, which I appreciate. I think the thing I appreciate the most is the comments from people, you know?

• 47:56Wes Bos?

  I printed this and it didn't work, or I had to size it up a little bit, or it was a little bit tight. So it's, it's great to have such a big community around these things.

• 48:07Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah. Yeah, very impressive. I want to talk about modeling and designing your own. So how, how deep are you getting into 3D modeling? Cause I, I actually did do 3D modeling, but it was in college and I haven't really done a whole lot of it since. So I'm, you know, a little rusty in this regards. I, I know the basics, but I'm definitely rusty.

• 48:30Wes Bos?

  Yeah, I have modeled, I think about 10 things so far. And the first time that I did it, I was so extremely frustrated with these apps that I didn't know. You know, like when you're using an app and you don't know what you're doing, you're just trying to click on something? And you're like, how do I just click on that thing, you know? And I had to, I had to sort of like peel it back and watch a whole bunch of tutorials on like the fundamentals behind it. So there's this idea that you sketch out what you want in 2D first, and then you can extrude things. And then you can also have like relations between things. So if you want to scale it up or down, what happens when you resize one of these items? There's different planes, so.

• 49:16Wes Bos?

  For example, this syntax logo right here, the syntax yellow is on top of some black. Like, what would happen if I increased the height of the black? Should the should the yellow go up or should it stay where it is? You know, like, there's all these different constraints. And it really gives me a new appreciation for just design in general. I find myself just walking around, looking at every single product in the world, being like, how did they model that? And you start to see everything in the world just broken down into rectangles and circles. Yes, a combination of all basic shapes. It's all just rectangles and circles. And then you chisel away and merge things and join and extrude.

• 50:00Wes Bos?

  But I feel like I'm like pretty comfortable with it. I'm not at a point where I'm like an engineer, I'm gonna build a car. But for the basic stuff that I'm doing, whereas I just need to build this thing, it really doesn't take all that much if you're a relatively competent developer who is used to taking on a new thing and learning something. So I, in terms of apps, I tried three of them. So I first tried Fusion, which is from Autodesk. Then I tried Shaper 3D, and then I tried Onshape. So Onshape is browser-based, which I was really excited about. But I found it to be a little laggy in rendering and switching between,

• 50:44Wes Bos?

  like, if you have multiple models open in their, like, tabs, I found it to be a little laggy, which kind of killed me, because it's the web, you know? So Shaper 3D is by far the most user-friendly, especially for somebody doing it brand new. I gave it to my daughter, and they have an Apple pencil. And she was like extruding stuff and making a teacup. But it's really expensive. It's like 40 bucks a month or something. So I ended up going back to Fusion. And I was wrong about it at first. I was really frustrated, I thought it was garbage. But like, Fusion is what most of the industry uses. Not just 3D printer, but anyone who's building like real products, they're likely using Fusion. And once you understand how everything works, there's bazillions of tutorials out there.

• 51:29Wes Bos?

  Every single time I need to know how to do something, I just search it. There's always some like six-minute YouTube video that I can learn how to do it. So. And it's it's free for makers, so you're not going to be paying for it as well. You can you can have 10 models at once and then you can just turn your older models off to read only, and you can just keep making more and more.

• 51:52Scott Tolinski?

  Nice. Is there any particular YouTube channel that you found to be the best for this? Or just you're looking things on a nascent basis?

• 51:58Wes Bos?

  Not really. I just I literally just type in exactly what I want.

• 52:03Scott Tolinski?

  Hmm hmm.

• 52:03Wes Bos?

  And then I will find that. I also found it really helpful to just search on TikTok and watch people build something from scratch. Because it's not like I like I don't know what I'm looking for in a lot of the cases. So watching some it's it's like coding tutorials as well. I don't necessarily know what to search for. But if you just like watch something, someone build something from start to finish, you find out, oh, I didn't realize that tool. Oh, okay, I see what you did there. Oh, you have to do a sketch on like a you got to add another plane on top of that thing instead of sketching it from the Z axis flat. I don't it's it's really fun. Like I I really enjoy it and I'm I feel like I'm getting pretty good at it

• 52:46Wes Bos?

  after maybe a month of of doing it. And like I'm not even this is this is just in the evenings. I poke around it. I had it for a couple hours here and there. So it's it's been pretty good.

• 52:58Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, I love to hear all that.

• 53:00Wes Bos?

  Modifying existing models. So most of the models you find online are STLs, which are like a mesh. And when you edit in Fusion, it's not it's not a mesh. It's it it understands like what your sketch is and what you've extruded. And it's actually really cool because I realize it's Fusion is just a giant state machine. You can spend like an hour building something. And then like I realized, shoot, I made that thing too small. So you can go back to the very first step, change something. And in most cases, it will ripple the changes. It will replay the your entire timeline of changes on top of that change.

• 53:41Wes Bos?

  And you can always scrub back and forth in your entire timeline and change stuff at any point in time, which is Like a state machine or like a time travel debugger. And I thought that was really nifty as well. But what was I saying? Existing models, STLs, their meshes, and they're a little bit harder to edit, which is kind of frustrating. It's kind of like the compiled code. So sometimes authors will upload their original Fusion files, which is really nice. But other times, you just have to... There are some tools in Fusion for converting meshes back to Fusion files.

• 54:24Wes Bos?

  But in my experience, it's been kind of tricky. And I haven't gotten really good at that just yet.

• 54:30Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, so let's talk about code in AI. I mean, we're programmers and we can automate things or do things with code. Have you dove too much in using code in this space? Because I don't even know what's out there, honestly.

• 54:44Wes Bos?

  Yeah, coding them is kind of an interesting world as well because not only can models be generated by clicking around in Fusion, but you can also generate them with code. And there's this whole idea of parametric models, meaning that you can have like a base model. Like, let's say, for example, a hook. And you can build a parametric where literally every aspect of that hook is like a variable. Or if you have like a grid and you want to be able to say, I want it to be eight inches by 11 inches and four by three grid.

• 55:26Wes Bos?

  And there's just, there's bento boxes and all of this kind of cool stuff. So these flexible models or generated models are really interesting to me. And I'm just like, what are people using? So it seems that there's something called Open Scad, and it's its own language that is used. It's similar to JavaScript and it's its own language that you can use to basically model out in code. It's been way easier just to visually look at and click on the pieces that I want. But for some things that need to be 100% generated based on all of these different variables, it's a really interesting place.

• 56:10Wes Bos?

  And then there's also manifold CAD, which is...

• 56:14Wes Bos?

  Built-in JavaScript and is on, has its own like rendering engine.

• 56:20Scott Tolinski?

  Wow.

• 56:21Wes Bos?

  And it's, I have a link to the example of manifold CAD here. You can basically have access over every single piece of it and you can, you can generate things and then export them to STL files and go ahead and print them. So I would like to get a little bit more into that, especially for things like drawer integration and whatnot. I'd like to build something where you can push buttons on a website and immediately see it. There's this like Bento website, bento3d design. I don't know that what this is built on, but it allows you to build a little box with a lid.

• 57:03Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, Topher shared this with us.

• 57:06Wes Bos?

  Yes, this is what Topher gave us. And it's, it's so cool. You can customize every little thing. So if you ever need a box for something, you know, like I have this, one thing that we three printed for the kids was cardboard tools. So it's a cutter, a perforator and a screwdriver. And then you 3D print all these little screws. And you can use it to attach pieces of cardboard together. So you can make armor, you can make forts, you can make anything that you can imagine with a whole bunch of cardboard. And I made all these, I printed all these 3D cardboard tools. And I was like, well, I need a box to like keep them in, you know?

• 57:50Wes Bos?

  So I just measured the tools and then I went on this Bento website and generated a box that will exactly fit them.

• 57:57Scott Tolinski?

  Wow. Man, this thing rules.

• 57:59Wes Bos?

  Yeah, yeah, it's a, it's a pretty, pretty wild world. And like, I realized that like, there's just so many little like rabbit hole aspects of 3D that like, like this is not even touching game design. This is not even touching, it's kind of touching product design, but then there's like the coding aspect to it. But then there's like Blender as well, which is a whole nother world as well, where people are building, like Blender has the ability to have like variables in it and you can see it in real time. And then then there's AI. There's a whole bunch of kind of neat stuff in AI for this. There's some people working on like a chat, like a cursor for 3D.

• 58:44Wes Bos?

  I haven't tested any of them yet because they all seem to be coming soon or very early. Mechagent.com is the one that seems to be coming soon. I don't know if this is real or not, but they seem to be like they have a little chat panel where you tell it, make the bumps a little bit bigger.

• 59:04Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 59:05Wes Bos?

  So I imagine that that will come with time. And then there's also like MCP servers for Blender and for Fusion that people are sort of working on, but again, very early days for this type of thing. But I would imagine we'll start to see like a co-pilot for 3D start to pop up relatively soon. And then there's these Hunion 3D, which is a model from Tencent. And you can upload just photos to it and it will kick out a 3D model out the other end. It's not very good.

• 59:43Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 59:43Wes Bos?

  But it's still impressive. I like I three, I took my a photo of every angle of myself. And then I 3D printed it and it it didn't really look like me. I think you could much better just use like a newer iPhone that has the like LiDAR or something in it and just like actually scan your face that you probably get a better.

• 1:00:04Scott Tolinski?

  And they do make scanners out there, ranging from really impressive, expensive ones to really cheap and unimpressive ones.

• 1:00:12Wes Bos?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:13Scott Tolinski?

  Definitely. Yeah.

• 1:00:13Wes Bos?

  Like the Xbox Kinect is a 3D scanner, right? And I don't think the resolution is very high, but depends on what you're trying to scan. Like if you're trying to scan something really tiny, like an action finger figure, or you're just trying to scan like a headlight for a car.

• 1:00:31Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:31Wes Bos?

  Maybe, maybe that would would work as well.

• 1:00:33Scott Tolinski?

  What a world.

• 1:00:34Wes Bos?

  But that's.

• 1:00:35Scott Tolinski?

  Holy cow.

• 1:00:35Wes Bos?

  It's, it's a cool world. We've talked about it for an hour. I could, I could talk about it for, for a thousand more. There's so many things we didn't touch upon, but.

• 1:00:43Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, give me, give me a month and I'll be in the same universe. I printed now four things, so I'm.

• 1:00:50Wes Bos?

  Like maybe we'll do it like a follow up as well because again, I'm, I'm only like a month and a half in. I feel like I'm. In a spot where I can confidently talk about most of the things and I feel like I've hit a lot of the issues. But there's people that have been at this for 10 years, you know, they know absolutely everything.

• 1:01:09Scott Tolinski?

  Word. Cool. Well, uh, thank you so much for this. I, I really personally appreciate it because I'm gonna, I got a lot to go on here. I've been, my mind is open. I'm in the zone. So, uh, I would love to check in in a little bit. Now let's get into the part of the show where we talk about sick picks, shameless plugs, things that we are liking, enjoying right now. And yeah, I don't, I don't know if you wanna, if you got something ready to go or if you wanna think about it for a sec.

• 1:01:40Wes Bos?

  Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sick pick the AMS riser, um, for the, the bamboo X1C. So this is literally something that you 3D print. It takes like three kilograms of filament. So this is absolutely monster print and it's already been chopped up for you and everything. You just, you just download it and you can print all the different pieces. You pick your colors. And what it does is it sits in between your printer and the, the AMS. And it gives you some drawers and then gives you the ability to take the glass off if you need to stick your hand in there or if you need to cool it off a little bit. And then all of the, the build plates as well just slide in.

• 1:02:22Wes Bos?

  Cause there's all these like little tools that you have with 3D printing and it's nice to have somewhere to, to put them all. So this just gives you an idea of like some of the high quality things that, that people are uploading to the 3D printer. This is not just like a crappy dragon. This is some actual really nice things like fairly high precision as well. I printed mine in, I was hoping to get my like Cobalt 2 blue, but the, the Amazon photo was much darker than I actually got. Um, but I decided to roll with it. And then the one drawer I ran out of yellow. So I had, I had to like plug in some green and I think I'm gonna keep it like that. It kinda fits my personality of not being perfect.

• 1:03:08Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, that's neat. I have seen some other people make similar things. So that looks dope to me. I'm going to sick pick an eye mask. Since my concussion, I've been having a hard time sleeping. And one of the things that's been helping me lately is this cheap like $14 silk eye mask, which has got like an adjustable thing. Yeah, I always thought eye masks were for like, I don't know, grannies and a or like guy wearing a he's calling a candle and is in like a nightgown kind of deal, you know, he's walking around. But I gotta say the eye mask works. I there's some times where our room is certainly not as dark as I'd like it to be. Our like blinds are not blackout blinds. There's lights everywhere.

• 1:03:52Scott Tolinski?

  It does not get that dark. So, hey, I found that the darkness has been helping me. And honestly, I thought wearing an eye mask to sleep would be invasive or annoying, but I haven't really noticed it. So, not bad.

• 1:04:05Wes Bos?

  Awesome. That seems that's good. My, my kids all wear eye masks when they're trying to fall asleep as well. So it's I should try it.

• 1:04:13Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah, Courtney, Courtney's been wearing one now for like half a year. And I think she's been seeing great results from it.

• 1:04:18Wes Bos?

  Oh, really? Okay.

• 1:04:19Scott Tolinski?

  Yeah. But we're gonna shamelessly plug the Syntax YouTube. We've been doing the CSS battles over there that have been a lot of fun. We recently did a JavaScript clash of code, which was hilarious, because a certain someone likes to use way too complex solutions for a challenge that you're supposed to be completing as fast as possible. So it is a lot of fun. There's a lot of laughs. The whole thing is just, just a blast. It's just great. So check it out on the Syntax YouTube. Yeah.

• 1:04:53Wes Bos?

  Cool. All right. Thanks, everybody, for tuning in. Let us know your thoughts on 3D printing. Would love to hear us. Tweet us, skeet us, whatever way you want to get in touch. Peace.