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In the 1960s, a very cool machine debuted at the Seattle World's Fair - the Mold-A-Rama. It made real plastic toys on-demand from melted plastic pellets, to the delight of children and adults alike. They didn't last too long, but can still be found at various locations all over the United States and their retro-cool stylings are still a hit. Learn all about these cool machines in this classic episode. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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  Hey, everybody. Chuck here on a Saturday. I hope you're enjoying some breakfast cereal and maybe watching cartoons on the telly. But maybe take a pause and listen to this curated episode from February 2018. What is Moldorama? I'm not even going to tell you what Moldorama is if you don't know. It's not gross. It's not something that lives on your walls when it's too humid. It's actually a pretty cool, fun machine from days gone by. So I hope you enjoy this episode all over again right now.

• 2:12Speaker 00

  Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeart Radio.

• 2:22Josh Clark?

  Hey and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W., Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there. And this is Stuff You Should Know, Arama.

• 2:33Speaker 04

  Doop do do do.

• 2:36Speaker 04

  You know, it's kind of funny that you did that little doo doo doo doo. Because I'm gonna go ahead and plug this right off the top.

• 2:44Josh Clark?

  Okay.

• 2:45Speaker 04

  Uh, we're doing this show on Moldorama, which spoiler, is a machine that makes, uh, that made and still makes these little plastic things.

• 2:56Josh Clark?

  But has maybe one of the worst trade names ever.

• 3:00Speaker 04

  Moldorama?

• 3:00Josh Clark?

  Yeah.

• 3:01Speaker 04

  So I'm gonna go ahead and plug this. There's a YouTube video from, uh, this young lady, where she shows off her Moldorama, um, little plastic toys that she's collected. Carpetbagger.org.

• 3:15Josh Clark?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:15Speaker 04

  Moldorama. Just look up that YouTube. She is adorable and she's the best. And when she, um, shows her suitcase full of Moldorama plastic toys, she does a little song and it's just adorable and great.

• 3:27Josh Clark?

  I gotta check that out. I saw her, um, use one of the Disney Disneyland Toy Factory Moldoramas.

• 3:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:35Josh Clark?

  I saw that. So I know who you're talking about.

• 3:37Speaker 04

  She's great.

• 3:38Josh Clark?

  So, um, that was nice of you, Chuck. Well, let's wait for everybody to come back from watching her YouTube video, shall we?

• 3:45Speaker 04

  Let's wait for, I think, five or six minutes.

• 3:48Josh Clark?

  And done.

• 3:49Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 3:50Josh Clark?

  Time passes faster here at Stuff You Should Know, doesn't it?

• 3:52Speaker 04

  It does. I'm 80 years old.

• 3:55Josh Clark?

  So, so with, like you said, Moldorama, it is a, I've seen it described as a factory in a case.

• 4:03Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 4:04Josh Clark?

  I thought that was a pretty apt description. But for those of you who don't know, it is, um, basically an on-demand, um, injection blow molded, plastic toy dispenser. That is the, that's a technical definition for it. And while that might not make sense yet, it all will make sense in about 30 or so minutes.

• 4:25Speaker 04

  All right. How about this? Picture this.

• 4:27Josh Clark?

  All right, let's start over. Should we, wait, should we edit my part out?

• 4:31Speaker 04

  No, no, let's leave this all in.

• 4:32Josh Clark?

  All right, good.

• 4:33Speaker 04

  Picture this. You walk into a, a room. Let's say it's the Sears Tower, not Willis Tower. Is it Willis?

• 4:42Josh Clark?

  Oh, yeah. That was Willis Tower. Sears Tower. Who keeps calling it Willis Tower? Stop that.

• 4:49Speaker 04

  Sears Tower, or a, or a, uh, a world's fair or something. Um, and there is a machine that looks sort of like a jukebox from fifty feet away.

• 4:58Josh Clark?

  Oh yeah, that's a good, good way.

• 5:00Speaker 04

  And then you walk up closer to it and you're like, oh wait, what is this weird mechanical thing? Let me put in fifty cents and right before your very eyes, it will mechanically create a little plastic toy of an alien, or a building, or a, a lion at a zoo. And it will spit it out and you'll say, that was just melted from plastic and molded and shaped and given to me right in front of my eyes. What a fun, neat thing.

• 5:28Josh Clark?

  Right. And you'll say all this after you recover from fainting from the fumes of melted plastic and then get up and get your toy out, which is good because they say that you should wait a half a minute for your toy to cool before you grab it from the mold-orama.

• 5:43Speaker 04

  Right.

• 5:44Josh Clark?

  I think that was a pretty good job you just did of describing it.

• 5:47Speaker 04

  And I think this is super neat because this reminds me of a bygone era, like where, uh, I went to Nashville recently and went to Jack White's Third Man Records. And he has one of those booths where you can go in and record a record.

• 6:03Josh Clark?

  Would you record?

• 6:04Speaker 04

  Well, I didn't do it. I chickened out.

• 6:07Josh Clark?

  Okay.

• 6:07Speaker 04

  What I wanted to do was go in and sing a little song for my daughter and give it to her as a record.

• 6:12Josh Clark?

  Oh.

• 6:12Speaker 04

  And I was thinking like, what could I do? What do I know in my brain by heart? Cause they have a little guitar you can take in there. And it was such a small room and it was in the room with everything else. And I just got weirdly shy. Like, I don't want to hear me.

• 6:28Josh Clark?

  You got shy. Jack White made you shy, huh?

• 6:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, I didn't want to do it in front of people. Like, if there was literally no one in there, I would have cut ten records.

• 6:36Josh Clark?

  Oh, I got you. You should have stuck your head out and been like, can you all just leave for a little while?

• 6:39Speaker 04

  Just trust me.

• 6:41Josh Clark?

  Wow.

• 6:41Speaker 04

  But anyway, this reminds me of those days gone by where you could cut your own record, or, you know, they had these really cool machines at, at fairs and things. That they just, I mean, now I guess you can still get your picture taken and printed digitally.

• 6:57Josh Clark?

  Or the Penny Smasher, that's still around too. I see that compared to this a lot.

• 7:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, those are cool.

• 7:02Josh Clark?

  Not really, but still, there's, it's an app comparison.

• 7:05Speaker 04

  I will just say, I'm surprised that my brother doesn't have a Molderama in his basement.

• 7:09Josh Clark?

  So I am too, because there's a guy, uh, who collects these things called Moldville. And I saw videos of his collection. Did you see this?

• 7:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:18Josh Clark?

  It's like a warehouse full of mint-conditioned Molderama machines. This guy must be richer than an astronaut. He's got so many of these machines. Um, and you're right about this, it evoking the memories of a bygone era. But what's crazy, Chuck, is that these things are still in use today. You can find them all over the country.

• 7:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:40Josh Clark?

  And they're still working and they're, this is what's amazing to me. They are the original machines that were made for about a seven year period during the 1960s. Every Molderama machine that you might encounter, including 10 at the Toledo Zoo, by the way.

• 7:57Speaker 04

  That's awesome.

• 7:58Josh Clark?

  Were built in the 60s and have been operational ever since.

• 8:02Speaker 04

  Should we talk about the history?

• 8:04Josh Clark?

  Well, first, let me ask you this. Do you have, did you, did you ever use a Molderama when you were a kid?

• 8:09Speaker 04

  No.

• 8:10Josh Clark?

  Oh, you didn't?

• 8:11Speaker 04

  No, and I'm dying now to go do one as an adult.

• 8:14Josh Clark?

  So they're still around?

• 8:16Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 8:16Josh Clark?

  They're still around?

• 8:17Speaker 04

  They are still around.

• 8:17Josh Clark?

  I actually, I got one that, there's this thing in Toledo called, well, actually, it's in Ma-Mee, which is a suburb of Toledo, but it's called Children's Wonderland. And it's like this amazing 3D Christmas walk-through diorama, basically. They're just, nothing can put you in the Christmas spirit as a kid better than Children's Wonderland.

• 8:37Speaker 04

  No.

• 8:38Josh Clark?

  And at the end of this, there was a Molderama machine. And it made a gold

• 8:44Josh Clark?

  Smelly plasticky angel. It was kind of boring, boring Christmas angel, but it was mine and I was so glad to have it. And I have no idea what happened to it. I'm sure it broke pretty quickly. But I was like, holy cow, I've had one of these before. I had no idea what it was called, that it was moldorama. But I looked it up and I actually found the angel.

• 9:03Speaker 04

  Well, I think that's the cool thing about these as a kid is it's not putting your your quarter in a gumball machine and seeing all those things and one of them falls out.

• 9:12Josh Clark?

  Right.

• 9:13Speaker 04

  This is made just for you, right in front of your face.

• 9:16Josh Clark?

  Yep, pretty cool.

• 9:18Speaker 04

  All right, so now can we go back in time?

• 9:20Josh Clark?

  Yeah, yeah, I'm done. I'm done nostalgizing.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  All right.

• 9:23Josh Clark?

  Wait, what is it reminiscing?

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 9:26Josh Clark?

  Okay.

• 9:26Speaker 04

  Nostalgizing, I think that's a word, right?

• 9:28Josh Clark?

  It is now.

• 9:29Speaker 04

  All right, we're going back to 1937 in the winter when one J. H. Miller, Tyke is his nickname. I don't know what that comes from. Was he little?

• 9:40Josh Clark?

  I don't, not that I saw.

• 9:42Speaker 04

  Well, because it's spelled differently, T. I. K. E.

• 9:44Josh Clark?

  Yeah, I don't know what it means.

• 9:46Speaker 04

  Anyway, of Quincy, Illinois. He was, he made figurines. He and his wife made figurines and they needed a replacement for his nativity scene. I guess his little baby Jesus was decapitated by his dog.

• 10:02Speaker 04

  He needed a new one and he couldn't find a place to sell him just one little piece.

• 10:07Josh Clark?

  Yeah.

• 10:08Speaker 04

  You gotta buy the whole nativity scene. And he was like, well, what am I gonna do with that?

• 10:12Josh Clark?

  Yeah, he said, I just needed one. And you can understand the department store's position, like if they sell you just one piece, there's a whole set that they can't sell because who wants that set without the one piece, right?

• 10:23Speaker 04

  Unless it's like maybe a donkey.

• 10:25Josh Clark?

  Maybe. I remember the donkey. That was a good one, though. That was one of my favorites as a kid.

• 10:31Speaker 04

  But anyway, he and his wife said, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna take these lemons and make them into lemonade in the form of making our own little plaster replacement figure. And apparently they were pretty good at it because they ended up doing this for a living and founding a company doing this because the Germans evidently had the market cornered on nativity pieces. And when World War II came around, they said, nine for you. And we had a shortage.

• 10:57Josh Clark?

  Yeah, we, all we wanted was liberty figures is what they called them during World War II. Not nativity because the Germans had supplied us with nativity figures. So American-made ones, you could call liberty figures.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  Is that like Freedom Fries?

• 11:11Josh Clark?

  Right. I think they actually called sauerkraut liberty cabbage. I'm not kidding. So, so the, the Tyke and his wife established this company. And in World War II, it really kind of grew because they cornered the market. And they just kept going from there. And then about 10 years after World War II, they decided to move from plaster. And by the way, he started selling nativity figures, individual ones, to those same department stores who would only sell them sets before, which I think is kind of sweet revenge. But they moved from plaster figures to plastic. And got into a type of injection molding where air is blown into it,

• 11:56Josh Clark?

  which saves on plastic and creates a lightweight plastic figurine. And really, honestly, nothing says 1950s Midwest more than plastic nativity figures. You know?

• 12:10Speaker 04

  Probably so, yeah.

• 12:11Josh Clark?

  Made by a man named Tyke.

• 12:12Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah, I mean, they did pretty well for a little while, I guess. I'm not sure exactly when the company was founded. But if in 1937, he came up with this idea and they went bankrupt in 1959, they, it sounds like they added some good years in there.

• 12:26Josh Clark?

  Yeah, they did. But I, and I did not see why they went bankrupt. I saw they were nothing but successful. I don't know. I don't know if maybe they sunk a bunch of money into these machines and it just didn't quite make it or what. But he was very successful. He had a line of plastic toys that kids would buy by the fistful at like the local five and dime or novelty store or something like that. And he had lines of like dinosaurs, um, I think toy soldiers. But the one that really put his company on the map as far as kids were concerned were called Earth Invaders.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:58Josh Clark?

  Also known as Miller Aliens. And there was a line of, of, um, tons of them. But the, the one that is still today, the most prized of all was the Purple People Eater.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:10Josh Clark?

  And it actually inspired that, that song from the fifties, which I didn't realize that song was quite that old. But the, the song about the one eyed, one yeared flying purple people eater. That was based on Tyke Miller's creation from the fifties.

• 13:23Speaker 04

  I think it was the other way around.

• 13:27Josh Clark?

  I don't think so. I think the song was based on the figure.

• 13:30Speaker 04

  It says here, the purple people eater was inspired by the hit song.

• 13:35Josh Clark?

  Oh, I saw, I read that as the opposite. Thanks. Good catch, Chuck.

• 13:39Speaker 04

  I think that's the case because that song was a big, uh, hit and there were all manner of purple people eater souvenirs and things.

• 13:46Josh Clark?

  Gotcha.

• 13:47Speaker 04

  It was, it was a big business back then.

• 13:49Josh Clark?

  Thank you for that one.

• 13:51Speaker 04

  No problem.

• 13:51Josh Clark?

  We would have gotten some email from like three people on that.

• 13:54Speaker 04

  Tyke's great grandson.

• 13:56Josh Clark?

  Yeah.

• 13:56Speaker 04

  Little Tyke. Um, so in fifty nine or sixty, they went bankrupt and it was right around this time where he said, all right, I've got this idea. For an actual vending machine that could make these things on demand. And he was successful, he licensed this thing actually to, uh, what would eventually become Amerimark, which everyone knows that's, that company's still around. Uh, the time they were called the Automatic Retailers of America. And he developed these machines with them and in, in nineteen sixty two, at the Seattle World's Fair, they, they premiered there. Doing little, uh, space needles and monorails.

• 14:32Josh Clark?

  And Buddhas.

• 14:33Speaker 04

  And Buddhas for like fifty cents, which is about four bucks today. So it was not a little cheap thing. It's not like sticking a, a dime in a machine today.

• 14:42Josh Clark?

  Right. No, they, they were definitely expensive. But they were a huge hit at that Seattle World's Fair. That was what, 1962?

• 14:50Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 14:51Josh Clark?

  So in 1964, at the New York World's Fair, they blew up. They went from a couple of machines in Seattle, I guess three machines in Seattle, to as many as 150 at the New York World's Fair from 1964 and 1965. And even more than than just having that many more machines, they also had branded machines, right? So like, if you were a company like Sinclair Oil or Disney, and you wanted to just kind of give people an extra little amazing experience, you could license and brand your own moldorama. And they had plenty of those at the World's Fair. Some pretty cool ones, too.

• 15:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, so like you said, anywhere from Disneyland to Montreal's World Expo. And that's the cool thing is that Disney World or Disneyland, there could be, I think they were some of the characters that were actually acting like they were working the machine.

• 15:50Josh Clark?

  Right.

• 15:50Speaker 04

  It's kind of clever. Or if, you know, and you're in Montreal, it's gonna be Canadian Mounties. Or maybe an Eiffel Tower.

• 16:00Josh Clark?

  Right, if you could contact the company, get them to make you your own, like signage, I guess, to put on the machine. And then most importantly, they would sculpt and then manufacture a mold from that sculpture, whatever you wanted. Say your logo or your brand or something like that, some sort of statuette that had that. You could set it up and people would take home your little branded tchotchke. It was, it was pretty cool. It was a big hit in the 60s. And to Era Marker, A R A at the time, they were like, well, this is great. But apparently, they were just looking at the whole thing as a proof of concept because they had their sights on not just like on-demand novelties,

• 16:42Josh Clark?

  but on-demand everything, like on-demand dishware, on-demand jewelry, on-demand combs, on-demand ashtrays. That they felt like this was the future. Because at the time, you know, the early 60s, plastics was the future. It was, pretty soon, everything was gonna be made in plastic. And no one was ever gonna have cancer from it a day in their life.

• 17:02Speaker 04

  Right.

• 17:03Josh Clark?

  You know? It was a plastically optimistic time.

• 17:07Speaker 03

  That's right. And in the end, they manufactured about 200 of these machines over a seven-year period. But by 1971, they said, you know what? ARA said, we're getting out of this moldorama biz.

• 17:19Josh Clark?

  Yeah.

• 17:20Speaker 03

  Should we take a break?

• 17:21Josh Clark?

  Uh, yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  We're gonna go press together our own little moldy dinosaur and be right back.

• 17:45Josh Clark?

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• 20:51Josh Clark?

  All right, Chuck, so ARA gets out of the biz and it's kind of understandable why. There was, there's a couple of big problems with moldorama machines. One, they're expensive to manufacture. They were like apparently 3,600 bucks per at the time. That was back in 1962, so just under $30,000 today.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  It's a lot of money for a little vending machine.

• 21:13Josh Clark?

  And then also, once you set these things up, they required almost constant attention. You had to go refill them with plastic. You had to top off their fluids. You had to fix any parts. You had to keep them clean. You had to get gum off of them because again, these are interfacing with little kids. So there was a lot of maintenance and upkeep to them as well. So Aramark said, we're done. And in the seventies, they sold off their machines to a couple of different groups.

• 21:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, this is a mechanical, like hydraulic machine that required like oil and antifreeze. It was, it was no, I mean, if it sounds like, and I mean, I guess we can go into the process a little bit. It gets a little wonky for my taste.

• 21:59Josh Clark?

  Okay.

• 21:59Speaker 04

  But I guess we should talk a little bit about how these actually work, right?

• 22:03Josh Clark?

  Yeah, we kind of have to. And it'll be fun, I promise. You ready?

• 22:08Speaker 04

  Well, I will say this. First of all, there are hydraulics.

• 22:11Josh Clark?

  Yeah.

• 22:12Speaker 04

  And there are these, these two molds. And you can go on YouTube and look at how these things work. It's pretty neat. They, these two molds, it's basically one half of the little toy on each side.

• 22:23Josh Clark?

  Oh, yeah, like a three dimensional sculptured statuette.

• 22:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, so they move toward each other with these hydraulics and they're pressed together. Forms a big seal. And it ends up, it ends up being hollow on the inside. That's kind of a, a big point to make.

• 22:41Josh Clark?

  It's a, it's a negative of the sculpture.

• 22:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:45Josh Clark?

  So then there's a couple of holes in the bottom that lead into that sculpture cavity. And into that, you inject hot plastic. Because one thing that a lot of people don't realize about the moldamatic is just beneath this, this work surface, that is the, the floor of what you can see. Below that is a vat of 225 to 250 degree Fahrenheit molten plastic. Just sitting there bubbling, hot.

• 23:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, little pellets. They feed it in little colored pellets.

• 23:20Josh Clark?

  Right.

• 23:21Speaker 04

  Although for a little while, they actually had just kind of neutral pellets that they use colored powder.

• 23:27Josh Clark?

  Right.

• 23:27Speaker 04

  But they at least wised up there and said, why don't we just color the pellets and just stick with the one color?

• 23:32Josh Clark?

  Yep. And then, so the, the system has a closed steam system that runs hot steam through coils.

• 23:39Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 23:40Josh Clark?

  That runs through these plastic pellet. vat, this plastic pellet vat, and it melts the pellets and then keeps them molten. So then when that, when the, the, um, the mold seals up above come together and form that seal, hot plastic is injected into the, um, mold and fills it up.

• 24:02Speaker 04

  That's right. Hot plastic injection, great band name.

• 24:05Josh Clark?

  Yep.

• 24:06Speaker 04

  Uh, and then these things obviously have to be cooled pretty quick, like, uh, in order for them to, uh, I mean, what, solidify? Is that the right word?

• 24:14Josh Clark?

  Mm-hmm.

• 24:15Speaker 04

  Um, but when they do come out, like you said, they are warm and, um, I'm surprised, I mean, this seems like something that you could not create today without there being so much liability on your hands.

• 24:26Josh Clark?

  Well, again, they still are in use. They, you can still go to the Toledo Zoo, the zoos all over the Midwest and Florida and tourist attractions and rest stops and you will find these things still in use.

• 24:37Speaker 04

  It's just so funny to me that like, it literally says on the little door that you open, hold upside down while it cools.

• 24:43Josh Clark?

  Mm-hmm.

• 24:44Speaker 04

  Don't let the, the molten plastic drip on little, little Timmy's hand.

• 24:48Josh Clark?

  That's exactly right. So, so we got the injection molding part done, but there's one step that we missed and that's the blow part that makes it injection blow molding. And this is how these companies manage to actually make money. And one of the reasons why the mold-arama tchotchkes are so fragile is that they're hollow inside.

• 25:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:08Josh Clark?

  So the, the, um, the, the mold is filled with hot plastic and then compressed air is blown into it and the compressed air does two things. One, it pushes the plastic against the mold, so it completely covers it and it, it takes on this, this shape of the mold, right?

• 25:25Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:26Josh Clark?

  And then it also blows the excess plastic out the bottom. So it's hollow and then the excess plastic goes back into the vat.

• 25:34Speaker 04

  And that's reused, right?

• 25:35Josh Clark?

  Reused, exactly. So it might use enough plastic at first to make 10 of these things or five or something. I'm just totally guessing here, but then it reuses it by blowing it out the bottom and making it a, um, a hollow object rather than a solid one.

• 25:51Speaker 04

  Right.

• 25:52Josh Clark?

  Okay. And then it comes out hot. They say wait 30 seconds or half a minute, I think is how they put it. And the reason why they say hold it upside down is because there's still that hole at the bottom that that little hot plastic. Can, like you said, burn Timmy's hands.

• 26:06Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 26:06Josh Clark?

  The smell, Chuck. You've never smelled anything like it.

• 26:09Speaker 04

  Do you remember the smell?

• 26:10Josh Clark?

  Yes, I can remember the smell. It was, it's, it's at the same time pleasing and totally noxious.

• 26:17Speaker 04

  Interesting.

• 26:18Josh Clark?

  Like, as a kid, you're like, ah, this smells weird and cool. But as an adult, I'm sure you'd be like, this is gonna kill my whole family. You know, it's gonna kill my great grandchildren somehow.

• 26:28Speaker 04

  Well, back then, no one cared.

• 26:30Josh Clark?

  No, they didn't.

• 26:31Speaker 04

  You know? Uh, and like we said, tons of upkeep, you know, you've got steam, you've got hydraulic fluid. You have antifreeze, sometimes cold water, but I would suspect antifreeze in most cases.

• 26:42Josh Clark?

  Yeah.

• 26:43Speaker 04

  Uh, and until the 1970s, like I said, you had, um, powdered coloring. I mean, this whole thing is, uh, I'm surprised they didn't explode at any point.

• 26:56Josh Clark?

  Yeah, one of the other things that I really admire about this is that, again, the machines that are still in use today, that still work just as well as ever today, were built exclusively from 1962 to 1969, when Aramark was making them. And then, these things also, because they put off these terrible fumes, they keep, they're, they're kept outside. So they've been sitting in the elements for 50-plus years. And they still work. They're, they're pretty, pretty well-built machines, for sure.

• 27:25Speaker 04

  I think they've, they've got some now that they have been able to move indoors.

• 27:30Josh Clark?

  Yeah, from using a different type of plastic, I think.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's crazy that these things had to be outside.

• 27:35Josh Clark?

  Yeah, and they still are. Most of them are. A lot of them have like, kind of built-in little canopies over them or something like that. But if you look at the canopies, you can tell they're kind of new. They've been outside, basically, for 50 years.

• 27:47Speaker 04

  I am so gonna be on the lookout for these now.

• 27:50Josh Clark?

  So there is a website, Chuck, called, uh, Waymarking, W A Y M A R K I N G dot com. They have a comprehensive list of every single moldorama in use today in the United States. And they, they have like, actual like, longitude and latitude coordinates, if you wanted to, I guess, geocash your way to them.

• 28:13Speaker 04

  Well, what I want is an app that will text me when I'm within 500 feet of one.

• 28:19Josh Clark?

  Oh, that's a, that's a good idea.

• 28:21Speaker 04

  There's a $10 app. And if you buy a $10 app, I mean, you would make $10.

• 28:26Josh Clark?

  Yeah, although people are crazy for these things still, as we'll see.

• 28:30Speaker 04

  There are none in Atlanta, right?

• 28:32Josh Clark?

  Not that I saw, no. But again, there's a bunch in Toledo. I found the machine that I almost certainly got my angel from.

• 28:39Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 28:40Josh Clark?

  They keep it in storage at Tam O Shaner, which is an ice skating rink in, I guess, a Scottish ice skating rink? I don't know. In Mami, which is where they have Children's Wonderland. But I saw a picture of it and now it looks like the most recent thing it makes is polar bears.

• 28:56Speaker 04

  And your DNA is on that machine still.

• 28:59Josh Clark?

  Somewhere in the form of a wad of gum.

• 29:02Speaker 04

  All right, well, let's take another break. We'll come back and talk a little bit about some of these fun figures and the people that are still trying to keep this tradition alive.

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• 32:26Speaker 04

  All right, so here's the thing that I wanted to know and that our article didn't get to till three quarters of the way through. I was like, do they have different things for each machine? The answer sadly is no. If it spits out a dinosaur, it can only spit out a dinosaur unless you change up that mold.

• 32:43Josh Clark?

  Yes, but you can change the color and you'll have a different colored dinosaur.

• 32:49Speaker 04

  Well, until they started using the single color pellets.

• 32:52Josh Clark?

  Right. Well, no, then they just put in a different color when they refill the thing and all of a sudden it went from a purple dinosaur to a green dinosaur.

• 33:00Speaker 04

  Right, but could you say purple and hit a purple button?

• 33:03Josh Clark?

  No.

• 33:03Speaker 04

  Or it's whatever the kid who worked there decided to put in that morning.

• 33:06Josh Clark?

  That's exactly right. The thing is though, and again, it's not even just the toy that comes out. The toy is, especially as a kid, invariably disappointing.

• 33:15Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 33:16Josh Clark?

  But it's the process, is watching this thing happen. And the Moldorama machines will have like little, little different lights that light up, like now we're cooling, now we're about to launch the toy to you, you know? It tells you what's going on, so you're following the process, which is, at least is probably 80% of the appeal of the whole thing.

• 33:38Speaker 04

  Stand back right now, because if I were to explode, it would be during this next eight seconds.

• 33:43Josh Clark?

  Right.

• 33:46Josh Clark?

  All right, so- Your mom who's standing there, missing her one arm from saving you in a car wreck, it's like, you probably should stand back.

• 33:52Speaker 04

  Exactly. No one knows exactly how many of these molds were made, but there, like we said, are enthusiasts who collect these. And this one dude, Bill Bowman, who owns one and runs moldville.com, bad, bad URL there, right?

• 34:12Josh Clark?

  Yeah, it is bad. And I gotta say, I looked it up and it's a dead domain, but he's got a Facebook thing that he does now. That's where he's moved to.

• 34:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's where, he went MySpace and then he went Facebook. But there will never be another site better than Facebook, so I'm sure it's all over, right?

• 34:27Josh Clark?

  Probably.

• 34:28Speaker 04

  So he, um, his estimate is about 300 designs. I bet it's more than that.

• 34:35Josh Clark?

  I don't know. This guy knows what he's talking about.

• 34:37Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 34:38Josh Clark?

  He counted 196 original ones. And then he said after the 60s, more people started to make them. They weren't just commissioned by Aramark, who was keeping track of these things. And in, I would, I would say this guy's probably the person on earth who could estimate how many there are the closest.

• 34:57Speaker 04

  And not just me guessing randomly?

• 35:01Speaker 04

  I bet it's more.

• 35:02Josh Clark?

  And what's cool though also is again, like if you were, you could be anybody. If you wanted a, a, moldorama thing at your event, you could, it could happen.

• 35:13Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 35:14Josh Clark?

  I found there was a Circleville, Ohio Pumpkin Festival moldorama figure.

• 35:19Speaker 04

  Wonderful.

• 35:20Josh Clark?

  So one of the 300 molds is a pumpkin from Circleville, Ohio's Pumpkin Fest in the 70s. Another one, so apparently Toledo was crazy about these things. Cause again, there's 10 at the Toledo Zoo. There's the one at Tam O Shaner that I got mine from. There was one in the 80s at the Toledo Mud Hens Stadium. And there's a Mud Hens figure, which is pretty cool actually. And I looked and there's like zero for sale anywhere. But now I'm kinda on the lookout for that thing. But all you had to do was just make a mold, get your hands on one of these and bam. Circleville, Ohio's Pumpkin Fest went from zero to hero.

• 36:00Speaker 04

  Right. And you too could have a snowman or a Grauman's Chinese Theater, or a space lab, or a Lawrence Welk.

• 36:07Josh Clark?

  Yeah.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  Or a Titan missile.

• 36:09Josh Clark?

  Yeah. And NASA had a, a lot of these things, actually.

• 36:12Speaker 04

  I'm sure.

• 36:14Josh Clark?

  What else was there?

• 36:15Speaker 04

  Um, well, the Lawrence Welk, none of those were jokes. Those are real.

• 36:19Josh Clark?

  Oh yeah, for sure.

• 36:20Speaker 04

  There was a Titan 3C missile and a Lawrence Welk. It says other famous people. I'm kinda curious.

• 36:25Josh Clark?

  I didn't see anybody besides presidents and Lawrence Welk.

• 36:30Josh Clark?

  There's one of the Georgia State Capitol building.

• 36:33Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 36:34Josh Clark?

  Yeah. There were some cool ones, actually. The St. Louis Arch is surprisingly cool. You wouldn't think it'd be that cool. The Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.

• 36:48Josh Clark?

  Uh, this one was kind of random. It was, it's a Hailei player. And then at the base it says Hailei in Miami.

• 36:57Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 36:58Josh Clark?

  Um, the water skier from Cypress, I think Cypress Gardens, Florida. And the mermaids from Wikiwachi Springs, Florida.

• 37:06Speaker 04

  Oh, we talked about them. Um, oh, here's one. Universal Studios had one that made a Frankenstein coin bank. That's kind of cool.

• 37:13Josh Clark?

  It is very cool. Like, a lot of these are actually super cool, especially the original retro ones. You can actually see, like, um, I can't remember the woman's name, but there is a woman who was hired by one of the companies that still operate these things, uh, to start making molds. And she's been making them for the last 25 years. And compared to some of the ones from the 60s, like, she's just head and shoulders above the people who were sculpting them then. Like, these are really, really well-made sculptures. Not only in, like, the actual sculpture that she's making, but the, the decisions she's making produces just a better moldarama toy.

• 37:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:53Josh Clark?

  Because, again, you're, you're dealing with melted plastic in a mold that is two halves pressed together. There's a lot of, like, details that can go wrong. And this, uh, this great sculptor is, is, um, taking all of them into account, making some really boss ones. Like, the Wienermobile.

• 38:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:08Josh Clark?

  It's, it's art to behold. This, the detail in it is really, really nice.

• 38:13Speaker 04

  Should we talk about a couple of these companies that are, uh, still, still going strong?

• 38:17Josh Clark?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 38:18Speaker 04

  Or at least going?

• 38:19Josh Clark?

  No, they're going strong, man.

• 38:21Speaker 04

  Okay. Good. Um, there are a couple of them. Uh, one called Replication Devices and one called Moldarama Incorporated. Um, Replication Devices founded, uh, by Eldon Irwin, who bought a bunch of these, it says dozens, in the early 60s. Uh, eventually passed down through his family. And right now, his grandson, uh, and his wife, the Strigows, um, in Florida.

• 38:49Speaker 04

  Are operating sixty or seventy of these.

• 38:52Josh Clark?

  Yeah, and let's think about this for a second. So Eldon Irwin bought dozens. Now they're up to sixty, maybe seventy. And those Mulderrama machines have supported three generations of this family.

• 39:05Speaker 04

  Fully?

• 39:07Josh Clark?

  From what I understand, yes.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 39:09Josh Clark?

  I saw an interview with Tim Strigau and he said he was surprised that the business was still going when his parents took it over. And now he, the grandson, and his wife operate it. And yes, from what I understand, it fully supports it. The San Antonio Zoo estimated that they make a hundred and thirty thousand figurines a year from their one Mulderrama.

• 39:31Speaker 04

  Two bucks a pop, that's two hundred and sixty thousand gross.

• 39:35Josh Clark?

  Times sixty or seventy. So yeah, they're doing just fine.

• 39:40Speaker 04

  This other one, Mulderrama Inc., like, we're not asking anyone to open their books for us.

• 39:45Josh Clark?

  No, for sure. And I certainly don't want to shine a light on these people's finances. But I'm just saying, like, it's astounding to me that these machines, built in the sixties, left out in the elements for fifty years, are managing to support three generations of the families who have been operating them. I just think that's super cool.

• 40:01Speaker 04

  Yeah. I mean, it sounds like, uh, it's kind of like people own car washes.

• 40:06Josh Clark?

  Sure.

• 40:06Speaker 04

  Isn't it like a front always to launder money from drug sales?

• 40:11Josh Clark?

  I would guess. I think it's low hanging, easy to buy.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  I'm just kidding everyone out there that owns car washes. I've watched too much Breaking Bad.

• 40:23Josh Clark?

  Oh, that's right, that's right. But I think that is like a legitimate thing, like.

• 40:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, their cash, yeah, cash businesses are ripe for the picking.

• 40:31Josh Clark?

  I forgot they bought that car wash.

• 40:32Speaker 04

  Yeah. So Mulderrama Inc., like I said, William A. Jones Company, changed their name in two thousand and eleven, but they got into this in nineteen seventy-one, when William A. Jones bought some of these from one of the guys who worked for the original Mulderrama. Then they expanded, bought more machines, and it is still a family business. Again, they got about sixty of them.

• 40:57Josh Clark?

  Yep. And they, they were the William A. Jones Company. And then I guess they got their hands on the moldorama trademark in 2011 and they changed the name of the company to moldorama Inc. again, because that's originally what it was called back when Aramark was running it.

• 41:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, and they're mainly in the Midwest, Minnesota, Michigan, a bunch of them in Illinois and one in Texas, it looks like.

• 41:18Josh Clark?

  Right.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  Not bad.

• 41:20Josh Clark?

  And then every once in a while, you have just some independent operators, like Knoxville Zoo owns their own. They apparently got theirs from Dollywood, which, man, moldoramas at Dollywood, that make your wig spin.

• 41:34Speaker 04

  Uh, there's this one cool thing I wanted to shout out, uh, this toy store in Chicago, Roto Fugi, or Roto Fuji, I'm not sure how you pronounce it.

• 41:42Josh Clark?

  I don't know.

• 41:43Speaker 04

  Um, they repurposed, uh, their own moldorama. They, they bought one and repurposed it that was originally the LA Zoo and they call it the Roto Amatic. And they have something called the Helper Dragon that you can get for six bucks. And if you look up the Helper Dragon and these dudes, it is clear that they're Simpsons fans. Did you see this thing?

• 42:05Josh Clark?

  Uh, yeah, I did. I saw a video of it, but it was kinda out of focus.

• 42:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, like just Google image the Helper Dragon, uh, Roto Amatic, and it is, to me at least, clearly the Cyclops alien from The Simpsons.

• 42:20Josh Clark?

  With its- Oh, yeah?

• 42:22Speaker 04

  With its head stuck on the body of a winged lion.

• 42:26Josh Clark?

  Nice.

• 42:27Speaker 04

  That, that's my take on it.

• 42:28Josh Clark?

  Very nice.

• 42:30Speaker 04

  And then there is this one other guy. He is a, a Disney World Imagineer named James Durand, and he has built his own moldorama called the Mini Molder. Uh, and you just look at this guy, you know, he's an Imagineer, you look at this machine, and you're like, I would hire that guy to build and do anything 'cause he's clearly a brilliant genius.

• 42:53Josh Clark?

  Yep.

• 42:53Speaker 04

  Really cool looking thing.

• 42:55Josh Clark?

  And a bit of a show off, frankly.

• 42:56Speaker 04

  You think?

• 43:00Josh Clark?

  So I've got two more things.

• 43:01Speaker 04

  All right.

• 43:02Josh Clark?

  The moldarama used to be 50 cents in its original incarnation in 1962.

• 43:10Speaker 04

  Right.

• 43:10Josh Clark?

  Which, again, thanks to our friends at West Egg Inflation Calculator, tells us is about $4.12 in 2017 money. Today, you can get a moldarama for $2, which means that the price has gone down by half over the last 50 years.

• 43:25Speaker 04

  Oh, interesting.

• 43:26Josh Clark?

  Pretty cool. And then lastly, so after Tyke Miller got out of the plastics injection molding business, he had another invention that he called the Golden Goat. And it was this big machine that apparently he invented to put out in parking lots at like grocery stores. And it would take up about two parking spaces. And customers would come in and put in their used aluminum cans. And then the Golden Goat would weigh it and then give them some money in return. And then it would compact those cans. And then later on, that aluminum would be sold as scrap for recycling. The thing is, is this was years before the green movement was ever even thought of.

• 44:10Josh Clark?

  That's how ahead of his time this guy was. And I don't think the Golden Goat ever made him a lot of money, but it's a pretty cool invention that this guy had. He was like one of those great Midwestern tinker inventor guys.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:25Josh Clark?

  Hats off to him.

• 44:26Speaker 04

  God bless all those people.

• 44:28Josh Clark?

  Yep. So there you go. Nativity figures. Plastic. If you want to know more about moldarama, man, you can fall down a rabbit hole just looking at pictures of them on the internet. So why don't you go do that? Take some time for yourself, you know? Why do you always have to work, work, work? Since I said that, it's time for listener mail.

• 44:48Speaker 04

  I'm gonna call this, just kind of a quick shout out. We don't do these a lot, because we get a lot of shout out requests, but this one was adorable, because it's a little kid. So this is from Jenny. She's the mom. She says, "How about a shout out for my son Jake? He listens to every episode more than once. He's got me and many others into the show, and we love it." So young Jake is out there spreading the word, and we appreciate that, Jake. And you love the show so much, you named, well, not quite yet, but Jake says he wants to get a puppy and call it Charles W. Chuck Bryant. And he says this, most of the time he will be called Chuck. But when he does something wrong, I'll be like, Charles W. Chuck Bryant, why did you do that?

• 45:31Josh Clark?

  Yeah. Well, Jake, we have a really big surprise for you. If you will go to your back door, I think you're gonna find something pretty special out there.

• 45:40Speaker 04

  No.

• 45:41Josh Clark?

  I'm just kidding.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  No, we're just kidding, Jake. There's not a puppy at your back door unless your mom Jenny heard this beforehand and is the best mom in the world.

• 45:49Josh Clark?

  Yeah.

• 45:50Speaker 04

  But your mom is the best mom in the world.

• 45:51Josh Clark?

  Yeah, that was pretty cool of her to write in and let us know. So way to go, Jake, for listening to us. Thank you. Thank you very much.

• 45:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, thank you, Jake. Thank you, Jenny. We count, literally count on people like you to spread the word, so we appreciate it.

• 46:02Josh Clark?

  Good luck with your eventual puppy, too, named Charles W. Chuck Bryant.

• 46:06Speaker 04

  When he's bad.

• 46:07Josh Clark?

  If you want to tell us about your cute kid, we want to hear about him or her. You can send us an email to [email protected].

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