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3:09 Holly Frey? Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio.
3:19 Tracy V. Wilson? Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson. And I'm Holly Frey. We talked, we talked about, we didn't talk about, we just had our Unearthed Episodes, our most recent installment of them. Yeah. This week, for the whole week. Starting off with so many updates. An update that I didn't put in there. Ooh. But would technically be an update, is that last time on Unearthed, we talked about Remesa Osturk, who is the graduate student at Tufts who had been snatched off the street by plainclothes officers. Yeah. She was released on May 9th. She had been in custody for about six weeks.
4:01 Tracy V. Wilson? A judge found that she was neither a flight risk nor a threat. And also that the government had provided zero evidence for its baseless claim that she supported Hamas. Again, the only thing that was actually cited in her being taken into custody was an op ed that she co-authored in the school newspaper that was criticizing the Tufts administration's response to a resolution that was passed by the student senate that was about Israel and Palestine. Right. There was never anything to suggest that she was a threat in any way. There are
4:42 Tracy V. Wilson? various immigration proceedings that are still going on. Some of them, there's three different states. There's stuff happening in Boston right now. So in terms of like the immigration hearing, that's still ongoing. What the government basically did was they canceled her student visa and didn't tell her about it and then arrested her. So that is just sort of an update on that. I found, I was watching somebody like basically live blog the hearing that was happening on May 9th. I was on vacation. I was eating my lunch at Laughing Seed, which is, was a vegetarian restaurant in Asheville that very sadly announced
5:26 Tracy V. Wilson? that it was closing right after I got back from that trip. Oh, no. And I had kind of gushed at the server about how excited I was to be there because it is like, it was, you know, one of my very favorite restaurants when I lived in Asheville and when I was in college. And when the server came to give me the check, I had just seen the part about her being released on her own recognizance. And I, I was crying and I wanted to say to the server, I, I'm not crying about the restaurant. Yeah. The, the announcement had not happened that the restaurant was closing. Otherwise, I might have also been crying about the restaurant. But I, I got that news while I was on vacation.
6:10 Tracy V. Wilson? I was very emotional about it. Something else that I think people might be wondering why we didn't talk about at the beginning of the, of part one, we were talking about things that are still happening that are affecting the show, is the Supreme Court's decision lifting a lower court's injunction, allowing the big, big cuts at the Department of Education. Yeah. The thing is, that is not directly related to our show, but I think a lot of people think that it is related to our show because they think the Department of Education has something to do with history curricula and other curricula around the country. Right. It does not.
6:54 Tracy V. Wilson? Dismantling the Department of Education is not going to, quote, "return curricula to the states." Curricula is always, it's already handled by the states. Yeah. If anything, one state, that being Texas, has an influence on all the other states because Texas buys so many textbooks that textbook publishers. Cater to them. Align their stuff with Texas curricula. Yeah. Which means Texas is, who is setting a lot of the, the thing, not the federal government. Dismantling the Department of Education is also not going to repeal No Child Left Behind. No Child Left Behind was repealed in 2015. Too late, hot plate. None of this has anything to do with history curricula. It doesn't have to do with other curricula.
7:37 Tracy V. Wilson? What the Department of Education is actually responsible for is stuff like providing funding to school systems that don't have a lot of money. Mm-hmm. Providing support for disabled students so that they can have the free, appropriate public education that they are legally entitled to. Yes. A lot of stuff related to protecting students' civil rights, like investigating claims that students have been discriminated against because of their age, or their race, or their sex, or a disability. That is the Department of Education. The Department of Education also administers the federal student loan program. None of that has to do with educational curricula that was already being handled by the states.
8:18 Tracy V. Wilson? So that is why, that I did not talk about it in part one. The other thing is, the news about the Supreme Court decision related to that happened as I was finishing. I, I heard that at like 5:00 PM as I was doing the final read-through of the episode outline, and I was like, I cannot have another thing right now. Also, just to continue on that for a minute, the signs at the national parks. Uh-huh. Like the American Historical Association statement said, there were already plenty of ways to give feedback on the parks.
8:57 Tracy V. Wilson? This is basically inviting people to make the worst faith interpretations of what they see at historical sites and then have those complaints reviewed by people who are very eager to interpret something like slavery's legacy can still be felt today as you are a bad person who should feel bad. Something that we have seen, again, in our, in our listener mail from folks who sort of hear something very different from what we said on the podcast. We very recently got an email from someone who said they were not going to listen to the show anymore because they said, we said that the government was shutting down all libraries and universities and that the, and that the government was telling everyone
9:41 Tracy V. Wilson? who wasn't a white male to leave the country. Like, we didn't say anything-
9:44 Holly Frey? Even vaguely-
9:45 Tracy V. Wilson? Like either of those-
9:46 Holly Frey? Similar to that, no.
9:48 Tracy V. Wilson? Not even, no. Like, some of those words existed.
9:51 Holly Frey? Although, I will say this, I'm not going to say that. Just know in my heart, I have just had a very non-magnanimous and unkind read.
10:01 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, yeah. Like, it is just a very established pattern of behavior that there are people who go to museums and historical sites and see things that are accurately depicted about atrocities that happened at a site in the past, or slavery, or sexism, or whatever, and then take that in a weird, personally defensive direction-
10:30 Holly Frey? Yes.
10:31 Tracy V. Wilson? And turn it into something that is not what that said at all, and then file complaints about it and try to get people fired and dox people and etc. So, I don't, I don't like the signs.
10:46 Holly Frey? No, moi non plus. And I, I will say, one of the reasons this really hits my heart, aside from it's just existence being built on, like, the invitation of, of these bad reads, is that we have been, you know, fortunate enough to do shows at museums and, and national parks and talk to people who work in those kinds of spaces, and they are all- I mean, I don't think we have run into anybody who was not working so hard to make sure people understand the nuanced nature of history and how you can't really appreciate any of the good parts if you're not also acknowledging the bad parts and how that
11:30 Holly Frey? push and play has worked historically. And so it just feels like all at once slapping all of those wonderful people in the face. And it makes me very irate.
11:41 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, I was trying to make a mental list. We've done live shows at Adams National Historical Park.
11:46 Holly Frey? Huh.
11:47 Tracy V. Wilson? Gettysburg.
11:48 Holly Frey? Yeah.
11:49 Tracy V. Wilson? Which I can't remember if that's a site or a monument or like exactly what it says the designation is. Women's Rights National Historic Site.
11:58 Holly Frey? Yeah.
11:59 Tracy V. Wilson? I'm saying all these from memory that, so I might be getting it wrong in terms of like whether it's a historical park or a national park or a historical site or whatever. Were there any others that were like national park related?
12:12 Holly Frey? Oh, girl, my memory should not be, should not be questioned in this way.
12:17 Tracy V. Wilson? Those are the ones that I'm remembering in this moment. And like Holly just said, every single person that we worked with in all of these places cares about their job, cares about being accurate, cares about having a thorough and respectful look back at what happened in this place. None of them are like, I don't know, like, like there was nobody that we have interacted with in any of these shows that has been either just like phoning it in or trying to make weird commentary in order to make white people feel bad like that.
12:55 Holly Frey? Yeah, I mean, I-
12:55 Tracy V. Wilson? That's just not a thing that's happening.
12:57 Holly Frey? I also, not a national park, but I remember when we were at Royal House and Slave Quarters.
13:02 Tracy V. Wilson? Oh, yeah.
13:03 Holly Frey? And interviewing the people there and one of the docents talking about- A child asking her a question about one of the enslavers whose portrait is on the wall who looked like her and having that moment of revelation. And this person trying so hard to very carefully craft a response that was clear and truthful and fair without breaking this child down. And I'm like, they're working so hard already.
13:31 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
13:31 Holly Frey? To do this in a way that is meaningful.
13:36 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. Like we said in our previous installment of Unearthed, this is not even a tenth of everything that's going on. Just the parts that are like directly related to our show and our work.
13:48 Holly Frey? Yeah.
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18:38 Tracy V. Wilson? Unrelated to any of these things, I vote that we bring back inconsistent spelling.
18:44 Holly Frey? I mean, we kind of have, we just haven't accepted it yet, right?
18:48 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, yeah. I am saying this as a person who, for my job, was a copy editor. For my job was the person who like created the style manual and maintained it for the website that we worked for. And a person who I would say in my younger years, as a less mature person, corrected other random people as though it were my job. But none of that was useful. The spelling of pamphlet that we read off in the pamphlet about cheese was one of the most... Delightful things.
19:26 Tracy V. Wilson? And, you know, a person who is able to read, which, to be fair, there are a lot of people who struggle with literacy, but like, I think a person who is able to read is, is gonna know that P A M F L Y T spells pamphlet, and it delighted me so much to see that spelling. And I would just like to have more of that in my life.
19:50 Holly Frey? Yeah. I also had this hilarious, personal thought about the cheese pamphlet.
19:56 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay.
19:57 Holly Frey? Because I know I've told you before, and I'm pretty confident, we have talked about it on the show before, that when I was a kid, I used to write pamphlets and leave them around.
20:08 Tracy V. Wilson? No, I think you did tell me.
20:10 Holly Frey? Leave them around my house in an effort to educate my family.
20:15 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
20:15 Holly Frey? I was a delightful child. Shaking my head, no.
20:18 Tracy V. Wilson? Well, I just said that I was correcting other people's grammar like it was my job.
20:22 Holly Frey? I was real concerned that those, those backwards people I lived with were really not connecting enough with the history of the moon. And I would write these pamphlets all the time about any given subject. Like, I would go, I would be like, this week, foxes. And I would look up everything I knew about foxes and write pamphlets. And so part of me was like, I almost wish we could find out that this cheese pamphlet was not the scholarly work that it has been interpreted as, but was just some, like, nerdy dork of a child. It was like, I love cheese.
20:54 Tracy V. Wilson? So funny. I did not read this whole book. I think it was 112, well, 112 pages long, if I remember correctly. And as much as I would love, would have loved to have read 112 pages about cheese, I had work to do. And I was already running behind. But one of the things that I read that was sort of announcing that this work had been digitized, said the parts of it are really gross. And I kind of wanna, in a day when I am not quite so on deadline, go back and find out what the, what the gross parts were of the cheese book.
21:26 Holly Frey? Sounds great.
21:27 Tracy V. Wilson? I can imagine some things that they could have been, and some of them might be things that might not faze me at all. So I'm curious.
21:34 Holly Frey? Yeah, like, you know.
21:35 Tracy V. Wilson? Rent it.
21:37 Holly Frey? Rent it. The various microorganisms that you gotta have in the, in the works, you know, the mold that's part of the deal. There are things about cheese that people find squeamish making that I'm like, no, that's, that's where cheese comes from.
21:50 Tracy V. Wilson? Cheese is milk that has been spoiled in a controlled way.
21:54 Holly Frey? Right, right. And it's delicious.
21:58 Tracy V. Wilson? I love it too.
22:00 Holly Frey? Love cheese. I really liked our adult discussion of the Bayou Tapestry.
22:07 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh huh.
22:08 Holly Frey? Mostly because it once again brings to mind the tapestry made by the spiders of Tarantula on six.
22:18 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay.
22:18 Holly Frey? Futurama.
22:22 Holly Frey? There's an episode of Futurama where Zap Branigan and the Earth Military are, have invaded Tarantula on six. And as they are invading this planet that has made no aggressive moves towards humans, the spiders that live there are actually spinning this tapestry as everything is playing out and it ends up in a museum. Uh, but it makes me, it's, it's a joke about the Bayou Tapestry and I think about it every time the Bayou Tapestry comes up in our work. Except there are no penises on that one, to the best of my knowledge.
22:59 Tracy V. Wilson? I don't know if it still exists, but there used to be, you know, a thing that you could go to online and it was like a Bayou Tapestry generator. And you could pick little elements from the tapestry, which is really embroidery, but, and you could like put in words in the sort of font that it uses and you could make your own little images, things. And very early in our time on the podcast, you and I were struggling because we were getting a lot of negative feedback.
23:34 Holly Frey? Yeah.
23:34 Tracy V. Wilson? To put it generously. And someone made us one of these that I, I can't quote because it, it had, it had a swear word in it. But it was basically saying Tracy and Holly say, quit complaining, using various, um,
23:52 Tracy V. Wilson? Body tapestry pieces and, and the font. And it was very charming and I loved it. And I would periodically go over there and make myself little pictures to amuse myself. And then at some point it wasn't working anymore. And I, I have not thought of that and for years until just now.
24:09 Holly Frey? Me either, but now you remind me of how, because that was a non delightful time in our careers. I had written in my big honkin' datebook, which I have talked about many times. Cause I always love to keep multiple calendars. Like I had gone forward like six months and picked a date, six months from the day that I was writing it. That said, if it still sucks, it's okay to quit now. And like I had given it six months of like, this is what I think I can handle. And by that time I was like, oh, huh, everything's fine. It's fine, fine. We'll just keep going.
24:40 Tracy V. Wilson? You told me that before. Yeah. And now here it is, more than 10 years later.
24:46 Holly Frey? So many more than 10 years later, Tracy. Like we're on what 13?
24:50 Tracy V. Wilson? 12 years. 12, I think it was 2013 when you and I joined.
24:55 Holly Frey? Oh, yeah. I did my first episode in 2012.
24:58 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, yeah. You were prepping because I was going to be on a vacation and I was joining after I got back from the vacation.
25:05 Holly Frey? Yes. And I was filling in for Dublino while she was out.
25:09 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. So yeah, long time we've been doing this show.
25:12 Holly Frey? More than six months. It's fine.
25:14 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, we made it through that first period. I had another period that I was struggling, not because of this podcast. Before my job became only this podcast, there was a period of years where I was basically doing multiple jobs. And that part got really hard before I realized I needed to say that I needed to only have one job.
25:39 Holly Frey? Yeah.
25:40 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh, and I had a calendar on my wall and I had some of those little circle stickers in different colors that you can get in office supply stores. And I was basically marking the calendar, like the, the really bad days I was marking on the calendar. So I could actually see like, how often is the day really bad? Uh, because sometimes when you have a couple or three really bad days in a row, it feels like you have been in a bad time forever. And it just helped me see, okay, like, is it that my job is awful every day? Or is that I'm having one hard day every week? And it feels like it's perpetual? And that helped me just keep things in perspective.
26:20 Holly Frey? Yeah.
26:20 Tracy V. Wilson? And also helped me realize, yes, it is time for me to talk to my managers about only having one job now, which helps a lot of things.
26:32 Holly Frey? Yeah. I seem to never quite get to only one job.
26:38 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
26:39 Holly Frey? Every time I think I have, something else pops up and it's like,
26:42 Tracy V. Wilson? Something up?
26:42 Holly Frey? Could you? And I'll be like, yeah, that's fine.
26:43 Tracy V. Wilson? And new things happen.
26:44 Holly Frey? Yeah, that's fine.
26:45 Tracy V. Wilson? You also host an entire additional show in addition to this one.
26:48 Holly Frey? I do, and then occasional other shows.
26:51 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
26:52 Holly Frey? And then just, you know, other stuff as it comes up.
26:57 Tracy V. Wilson? My additional thing now is being a shop steward in the iHeart Podcast Union.
27:02 Holly Frey? Yeah.
27:02 Tracy V. Wilson? Which, just to be clear, you are not part of because you are classified as in management because of these other things that you also do.
27:09 Holly Frey? Right.
27:10 Tracy V. Wilson? That is not, it is not a whole additional job. And it is something that I am happy to do. So, anyway.
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27:35 Speaker 02 Zepbound is a prescription medicine used with a reduced calorie diet and increased physical activity to help adults with moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, OSA, and obesity to improve their OSA. Zepbound is approved as a 2.5, 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5, or 15-milligram injection. Zepbound contains trisepotide and should not be used with other trisepotide-containing products or any GLP-1 receptor agonist medicines. It is not known if Zepbound is safe and effective for use in children. Don't share needles or pens, or reuse needles. Don't take if allergic to it, or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer, or if you've had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. Tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. Stop Zepbound and call your doctor. Doctor, if you have severe stomach pain or a serious allergic reaction,
28:20 Speaker 02 severe side effects may include inflamed pancreas or gallbladder problems. Tell your doctor if you experience vision changes before scheduled procedures with anesthesia. If you're nursing, pregnant, plant to be, or taking birth control pills. Taking Zepbound with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. Side effects include nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting, which can cause dehydration and worsen kidney problems.
28:42 Speaker 01 Talk to your doctor. Call 1-800-545-5979 or visit zepbound.lily.com.
28:50 Holly Frey? We've all done it. Tumble down an internet rabbit hole trying to self diagnose. And sometimes doing our own research can leave us more anxious than informed. Your feed is packed with wellness trends telling you to cold plunge, protein max, detox, track your sleep. But what's actually real? What's exaggerated? What's just wrong? That's exactly what Health vs. Hype from the American Medical Association and iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio is here to find out. Each episode, Emmy nominated science communicator Trace Dominguez, who's racked up billions of views across PBS, Discovery Channel, and YouTube, talks to doctors, influencers, and real people trying these trends.
29:32 Holly Frey? Not to cancel them, not to hype them more, but to actually understand them. Because when it comes to your health, who you listen to matters. Start asking better questions and listen to Health vs. Hype on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
29:53 Holly Frey? Guess who's back in the house? The old gays return for season two of Silver Linings, their hit podcast from iHeart's Ruby Studio in partnership with ViiV Healthcare. Just wait until you hear what hosts Robert McMillan and Jess A. have in store this time around. They strut back down memory lane navigating life.
30:11 Tracy V. Wilson? Love, loss, and everything that shaped them along the way. And as usual, someone just might break into song. From leather bars to bathhouses, dance floors to drag brunch, nothing stays off limits. These are the kinds of insights that can only come from experience. So, listen to your elders, honey, and discover the silver linings you can take with you. All sass, zero filter, and decades of perspective from four friends proving that queer joy only gets better with age on the podcast that never gets old. Listen to Silver Linings, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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31:53 Tracy V. Wilson? I don't know if I have anything else to say about Unearthed, except as I expressed to you, I had a hard time getting through this one. Not because of the unearthedness. Whenever I say that, I think people get a little worried that there might not be unearthed anymore because it's a lot of people's very favorite episodes. This is the first thing that I worked on after taking a couple of weeks off to do some family related stuff. And the combination of needing to get back into this type of work, rather than the work I was doing at my parents' home. That was a process. And then also, the times that we were living in continued to be what they are.
32:33 Holly Frey? Yeah.
32:33 Tracy V. Wilson? While I was working on it. And it just meant that by the time that I was getting to the end of it, I was like, we have got to get this thing done because we are recording it in the morning.
32:43 Holly Frey? Yeah, you did the Holly Frey method. Although you did not email it to me at 2:00 AM, which I often do to you.
32:51 Tracy V. Wilson? No. So only a handful of people might know what this is about. Last night was the night that an episode of Game Changer was coming out that folks had been strongly suggested to watch as close as possible after its airing. So I had a 7:00 PM Eastern Time deadline. And I stopped working at like 6:30 and ate dumplings that my husband have made that are made by a local company. So my husband had cooked them. And then we watched Game Changer. So yeah.
33:21 Holly Frey? I am, I'm gonna say a controversial thing.
33:25 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay.
33:26 Holly Frey? I don't even know how to word this. I feel like in some ways, I'm not really saying what I'm about to say.
33:31 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay.
33:32 Holly Frey? Because it sounds like I'm like some sort of labor monster. But in some ways, I feel like vacations should be illegal. Not really. I want to take time off, but there needs to be like, an on-ramp period when you come back because.
33:45 Tracy V. Wilson? Oh, yeah.
33:46 Holly Frey? I can't switch. Like when people tell me like, oh, I'm back from vacation. I'm refreshed. I'm ready for work. I'm like, what is that like? I have never, like when I was in school, I kept trying to like, make the case that we shouldn't have spring break. We should just end the school year a week earlier. Because that last month or whatever you come back from spring break, felt torturous to me. Like I could not get my brain to play nice. It was so hard to focus. And I have that when I come back from vacation. Because I'm like, this is joy. This is how we all should be living all the time.
34:18 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
34:19 Holly Frey? And then, which is, I mean, I'm very lucky to have the job I have. Please, you know, don't, don't anyone think that I'm, I'm saying otherwise. But I just like, I wish there were a magical way where we could. Not have a struggle bus to get back into work when we come back from vacation.
34:37 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. Well, I have for sure had vacations where I did come back like refreshed and re-energized.
34:45 Holly Frey? How does that work? Never in my life, never in my life.
34:48 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. And a couple of times, this is like, it's been that when I, when the vacation happened, like, I really needed a break. And I also needed some time to sort of think about, okay, what is valuable to me? Uh, what is valuable to me at work? How do I make sure that my time at work feels like something that is valuable to me? Which I understand is something that a lot of people like, don't necessarily have at their jobs. And so there have been times that I have taken a vacation and when I left for vacation, I was feeling tired and stuck. And when I came back, I was like, okay, I have renewed my love and enjoyment of what I do.
35:30 Tracy V. Wilson? This recent time off was not that at all, because I was, I went from doing the work that we do of this, at this job, to doing caregiving work and domestic work at my parents' house. So it was like, I went from one kind of work to a different kind of work. And then I came back to the type of work that I more often do and like, kind of floundered. I was like, wait, how, how does my, and I also got a brand new computer that I arrived like, immediately before I took two weeks off. And that threw a whole other wrench into the works.
36:04 Holly Frey? Yeah, I don't, I, I never come back feeling like refreshed and renewed. I come back and I'm like, I-
36:11 Tracy V. Wilson? You lost your rhythm is what happens.
36:12 Holly Frey? I have to figure this out all over again. Yeah, I do. I think that's it. And I don't, there's no sol for it. I'm fine. Like, I've obviously pieced together, you know, enough other brainwaves that my missing ones are okay. That's another very subtle Futurama reference, by the way. But yeah, it's always a struggle for me.
36:30 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
36:30 Holly Frey? I can't- And to the point where it has gotten easier for me to continue to work on vacation than to completely separate the two, which I know is not great either. But like, it's like, you gotta keep your hand in. Or I will literally sit down when I get back and go, how do books work? Like, I don't even know how to do anything anymore. It's very weird. Anyway, I don't really think vacation should be illegal. I think vacation should be more all the time. I think we should live Jetson style, where everyone works three hours a day, two days a week. I think that'd be great.
37:08 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
37:09 Holly Frey? It's not realistic right now, but.
37:11 Tracy V. Wilson? I wish we lived in a society that valued rest more than it does.
37:15 Holly Frey? Yeah.
37:17 Tracy V. Wilson? That's how I feel.
37:18 Holly Frey? Yeah.
37:19 Tracy V. Wilson? Anyway, if you'd like to send us a note about this or any other podcast for History Podcast at iHeartRadio.com, we'll be back tomorrow with a Saturday classic. We will have something brand new on Monday.
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