Bonus #141 - Live Call Show Vol. 30 [PATREON PREVIEW]

Patreon preview. Unlock full episode at patreon.com/stavvysworld It's time for another live call show!! Stav and Eld are back talking directly to the beautiful Patreon members, including a dude who caught his wife cheating after she told him she's poly, a guy whose wife changed her mind about having kids after he already got a vasectomy, and a dude who's depressed because his two friends recently passed and he's going through a breakup. If you'd like to be a part of future live call episodes, subscribe at www.patreon.com/stavvysworld to get access to the Stavvy's World Discord channel where these live calls are taken. ☎️ Have a question for a regular episode? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice! 🎟️ See Stavvy live on the Dreamboat Tour 🛥️💕!!! https://stavvy.biz/ for tickets 🎥 Watch LET'S START A CULT on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/movie/lets-start-a-cult-1f157c44-3840-4f01-8863-bb6afa472a0b ‼️ Bonus episodes every week! Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:00Speaker 02

  Doing all right, man. Just spent a week recovering from an old slipped disc. You know what I'm saying?

• 1:06Stavros Halkias?

  Ooh, where, where is the slipped disc?

• 1:09Speaker 02

  My lower right portion of my back. Classic, dude.

• 1:13Stavros Halkias?

  Brutal, yeah.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  Blue collar nightmare, dude.

• 1:16Stavros Halkias?

  I have, I have, I have some bulging discs, some fucked up discs. And yeah, it'll just like, you'll just be fine and then be like, oh, I guess I'm just not getting out of bed today.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude. I was like, I went to work Monday. I was like, my shit feels weird. And then all of a sudden I was like, ah, fuck, can't walk.

• 1:32Stavros Halkias?

  Damn, dude. Damn. Sorry about that. Yeah, back stuff is the worst.

• 1:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's kind of just like, to kind of to the point, like, it's been one of the things that's been piling up the last couple of months. Like 2025 started out pretty sick. Like had a girlfriend, new job, like going to school, relevant to my new career.

• 1:56Speaker 02

  Climbing trees and shit, doing like studying arbor, arbor culture.

• 1:59Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, hell yeah, dude.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  But then like February rolls around, end of February, two close friends of mine die. Like, separate events, like within 24 hours.

• 2:09Stavros Halkias?

  Jesus Christ, dude.

• 2:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, like they were, we were in an abandoned high school and shit.

• 2:14Stavros Halkias?

  Sorry to hear that, man.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, man, like twenty-four too. So it's just like, that's the kind of shit that you're like, alright, well, guess, guess we're all just getting punished, you know what I mean?

• 2:23Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, right. There is no justice or fairness in the world. And even though I knew that philosophically, now I I'm feeling it personally and it sucks.

• 2:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. Dude, you're like, oh, dude, you see like shit die, you see people die, you're like, oh, that could never happen to the boys.

• 2:40Stavros Halkias?

  Of course.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  And then it does. And then, so like, I was dating the girl I was with for like two, three months when this happened. And as you can imagine, that's like, fucking heavy because I found out at her apartment.

• 2:51Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, dude.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  Like she was, she was great through it all. And like, we, I broke up with her like three, four weeks ago, just because, you know, that happening and then just a lot of shit going on, kind of like, like I'm, I'm doing well in school, I'm going to work, I'm like progressing. And it's just like, it's and with the death and like a breakup and just like mental health shit, like I've been going to a therapist, she's cool, but it's also just like, I feel like it only does so much for me. Like, I'm very receptive to therapy, like I'm very open. And, you know, it helps definitely. Um, but it's just like, man, and then like with my back, I was like, just starting to feel like I was hitting my stride. I was like, alright, dude, like,

• 3:36Speaker 02

  maybe being single isn't so bad, you know, like, gotta enjoy this, enjoy this summer, like in honor of the boys. And then I'm just like, damn, now I'm like,

• 3:43Stavros Halkias?

  Babe, I can't, I can't be in a relationship. The ghosts of my best friends want me to get pussy. They come to me in the night and they tell me to suck tits, to suck strange tits.

• 3:57Speaker 02

  They're telling me like, dude, we can't be sluts in heaven.

• 3:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. It turns out it's just like church up here. It fucking sucks. You gotta get as much pussy for us as possible. We struck a deal with God. We feel it a little bit every time you fuck a girl. So you have to do it for us.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  They're, they're right. All the cool people are in hell, man.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  But yeah, it's just like thankfully, I'm like starting to, I have some mobility back like I spent this last week. Just like stretching, trying to walk like I'm feeling pretty good now. It's just achy. So I'm going back to work tomorrow, probably just taking it easy, but getting back into it.

• 4:38Stavros Halkias?

  Yep.

• 4:38Speaker 02

  But it's still just like, like last night I have just like I'm, I'm at the apartment alone and I was kind, I was just tweaking, man. I was like pacing around like the fuck's going on? And it's just hard. It's hard to like chalk up the wins like with like I've, I've doing good in school, like work's going all right. I like everybody I work with. But it's hard to like appreciate that when all this shit's happening and I'm trying to like. Enjoy what's left of summer.

• 5:05Stavros Halkias?

  Sure.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  Get back onto that groove and like do all the things I want to do, but it's, you know, it's hard to fucking get out of bed and I'm sure that both of you have been in similar scenarios like. I guess, you know, what kind of, what kind of things can you, what kind of things give you motivation to get out of a slump like that and?

• 5:22Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Continue being cool.

• 5:24Stavros Halkias?

  Well dude, look, the thing you have to also remind yourself is you have to give yourself, you have to be like. Sort of like kind to yourself here and like think about it as like, how would you treat somebody else in your exact scenario, right? You would be really understanding if it was like, if somebody you knew lost two of their best friends in like a freak occurrence. Like first of all, you're not. Even close to dealing with that, right? Like that is a really fucked up thing that. You know, is tragic and that is going to take a while for you to sort of like really, really figure out and that.

• 6:01Stavros Halkias?

  In some ways just change like that's the, that's the whole, the worst part of, I mean, like all life is, is learning to deal with worse and worse shit. Every year we're alive, worse things keep happening. And yes, good things happen and that's what makes life worth living. But there like every year there's a fucking tragedy and at a certain point you just kind of become. Numbered to them and, and easier to deal with and you unfortunately had to deal with like. Shit that's like, you should have, you should have built up to a lot of smaller tragedies before you had to deal with these. Like, that's kinda how it works, right? It's like, fuck, little fucked up shit happens that makes you be like, oh, life sucks.

• 6:42Stavros Halkias?

  Or like, maybe an older relative dies a little early and you're like, hey, that's fucked up that somebody died at 60 instead of 80. But ultimately, you know, his health wasn't good, whatever. But like, you're dealing with shit that's like, like, that just fucks a person up like for a year plus. You know what I mean? And then even when you're done-

• 7:03Speaker 02

  Existential, like, oh, if they can die, why, like, what's gonna fucking happen to me?

• 7:08Stavros Halkias?

  Exactly. Not only are you mourning the loss of somebody who was so close to you and who was like a big part of your life, but it's like, yes, it shakes you. You're right, it makes these really existential questions, right? Like, and so, that's number one, right? That's like, understanding that you're still very much in the middle of this. And then also when you throw in, um, you know, the back. I mean, dude, a bad back is also a thing that's wor- like, that can fuck up an entire, like, can fuck up years of a person's life, right? A chronic health condition like this. Um, and so when you have those two together, you have to realize like, right now, it's sort of like, you know,

• 7:49Stavros Halkias?

  it's like in a boxing match where you're just sort of like, you're just kinda covering your head because you're getting the shit pummeled out of you. And you're waiting, you're about, you're basically clinching your oppo- you're covering your head and you're trying to clinch your opponent. So the ref will stop it and you get a second to breathe. But you're in the middle of getting the shit kicked out of you right now. And like, you don't need to be worried about, do, the fact that you're hanging on, right? Just keeping your job, just going to school is like, five victories in a row. Like, you have to realize that. You have to understand that the fact that you haven't crumbled completely is the equivalent to like, if none of this had happened and you had like,

• 8:32Stavros Halkias?

  you know, become a fucking multimillionaire and found the love of your life and like, and, and- Bought a house like that's the level of success like in many ways what you're doing is way more impressive than traditional success without obstacles. Getting in the middle of this to keep your life together dude, you should feel like you fucking like you just won a fucking champion like a uh like you're you know you were on NBA championship roster. Because what you're dealing with is really fucking hard and you showing up to work like dude if I was you I would I don't think I would like. I don't I think I would have been dropped out of school and quit my job legitimately.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  Fucking close.

• 9:13Stavros Halkias?

  I know dude and it and it's.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  I think that's like a problem I've had my whole life is giving myself credit and having that confidence and like you know I'm doing alright like I don't need to impress anybody. I just need to like keep it pushing you know and.

• 9:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  I think yeah what you're saying is true is like yeah I guess that is guess I do gotta do gotta take those mental mental notes and count those W's.

• 9:34Stavros Halkias?

  No you should be.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  I can.

• 9:35Stavros Halkias?

  You should be totally proud of yourself because these are it feels like you're not making it feels like and I get it right I get why it feels like. You're at zero right but but it's like if you're netting out at zero right now that's huge that's like. You're scoring thirty points because life is negative thirty at you right now you know what I mean like like the fact that you're at zero. Is insane and you're probably you're probably doing a little better than that right like you're still going to school you're still doing well like you're doing like. Solid like you're doing like you know you're you're doing like a fucking a C plus when life is trying to get you an F minus and that's huge.

• 10:15Stavros Halkias?

  Because like by absolute value you're you're putting in the effort of somebody who's living an A plus life right now and you need to understand that. Um and so you should feel proud of yourself for like you should be proud of yourself like you're crushing it even though it feels like you're barely doing shit. That's kind of that is that's really my my overall advice and that's that's the hardest part. Like when you feel like what's the point I'm not even succeeding I'm not doing shit. It's easy to feel helpless and give up and I've done that in the past right like I've done that and it's been a mistake and then you dig yourself in. Into a deeper hole, something you can, you can still ultimately get out of, but what you're doing is really impressive. You should feel good about yourself and you should also be like, listen, don't put other pressures on yourself either.

• 11:00Stavros Halkias?

  Like this weird like, oh, I gotta enjoy summer, but like, you know, you don't have to have the best summer of your life. Just go have a couple of nice fucking afternoons, drink a couple of fucking brewskis on a rooftop, you know? Get head, get head from a couple of sevens. They don't gotta be tens, man. You'll be fine, dude. You know what I mean? Like,

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude.

• 11:20Stavros Halkias?

  Like, that, that's, that's really it, dude. Just whatever it takes to make yourself feel good, you've earned it. Cause I bet you right now it feels like you're not, you haven't earned shit and that you, you're actually a fuck up and you're not. You're, you're crushing it right now, especially given what you're up against.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. Yeah. And I guess that is, that is a lot of stuff that my therapist has echoed to me a few times, but yeah, it definitely does help hearing it from other like out, outputs. And I have a lot of people in my life I can lean on who kind of say the same thing, but.

• 11:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. And listen, and, and by the way, you're right, you're right in saying that there, there's only so much therapy can do for you, right? Like you can hear that shit, but you have to behave like that. Like you have to go, you do have to go do some fun shit. You, you've earned some fun shit and you do have to be okay. Like, you know, you should treat your day to day like you were absolutely crushing it. So go celebrate, you know what I mean? Like go take a little fucking vacation, whatever you've earned it. Go like, and by the way, beca, it's gonna be kind of hard, right? You're gonna be pretty fucking tired from getting this shit together. Cause not only school and work, but like with a chronic back problem, dude, the way I got my, I fucked my back up, um, you know,

• 12:34Stavros Halkias?

  right? Maybe like a year ago at this point, and I had to go to fucking PT. I do all these fucking exercises just to not be in pain. And it was really fucking annoying. And so like, if you keep, if you're keeping up with all that stuff, you should also do shit that makes you feel good. That's kind of my fuck it. That's my, that's sort of my takeaway is like, don't feel free to sort of like spoil yourself as if you've had a banner year, because in a lot of ways you have had a banner year just staying on course.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Damn. That's true. Yeah, dude. Yeah. I think I, I, I definitely have been trying to do that. Like, I got a few fun events planned going forward, some concerts, some friends out of town, so. Yeah, just, yeah, just keeping it pushing and having something to look forward to, as my mom always said.

• 13:23Stavros Halkias?

  That's right, dude. And listen, do one extra splurge for us, man. Do one extra thing that you weren't gonna do.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  I think it's an ice cream kinda sundae.

• 13:31Stavros Halkias?

  Go get yourself, go get yourself two fat scoops, brother.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Dude, fuck it, why not us?

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Well, I'll let you guys push out to the next call, and I appreciate it. My sister and I are huge fans. We saw you in Cleveland a couple, like, two years ago. Always a pleasure, and we'll look forward to whenever that happens again.

• 13:52Stavros Halkias?

  We will, yeah, we will. We haven't announced anything yet, but we're working on, basically, I'm gonna do another bus tour at the beginning of next year, like, maybe, maybe Jan- maybe like, starting in late January, and I'm, I'm pretty sure, I'm almost positive Cleveland is somewhere in there, so look out for that. We'll be announcing that pretty soon.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  Nice. Well, I'll be looking out. Keep my ear to the streets, and, uh, I'll catch you guys later, man. Thank you both.

• 14:17Stavros Halkias?

  Hell, yeah, dude. Good luck, Dwan.

• 14:19Speaker 02

  Appreciate it, boys. Later.

• 14:20Stavros Halkias?

  Later, dude. Sister, huh?

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