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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:26Speaker 01

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• 0:54Speaker 02

  So I'm a, I'm a blue collar guy. I'm a, I work hard. I'm a 12-hour nights for the last, you know, four years guy.

• 1:00Stavros Halkias?

  Damn.

• 1:01Speaker 02

  Uh, I've moved a lot with my wife. We've been married five years and, um, ugh, I don't hate talking about stuff. But, uh, basically, she, um, wanted to move closer to her mom. So I sold a very nice house in a very good area, which was like, uh, five-star schools, the whole thing.

• 1:19Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, no.

• 1:19Speaker 02

  When I got over here, I was just carrying a lot of resentment because it's like, you made me sell a half a million-dollar house and pay the same mortgage on a $350,000 house that's close to your mom.

• 1:30Stavros Halkias?

  Oh.

• 1:31Speaker 02

  You know?

• 1:31Stavros Halkias?

  Tough.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  And, uh, put me 30 grand in debt, so I'm upset. And then she's spending, we're spending an average $11,000 a month, and she can't see why that bothers me.

• 1:40Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right. What, so, go, go on, keep going, sorry.

• 1:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, so I'm just harboring resentment and I start drinking pretty heavy again. Not every day, I'm, I'm somebody who, I'm not gonna miss my kids or miss work, but, uh, on a weekend after I put the kids down, I'll, I'll sit over here and self-wallow a bit and drink, so.

• 1:58Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 1:59Speaker 02

  Now, since I've been six months sober, because, but long story short, I made a big mistake. She took my kids and took off. Um, I didn't cheat on her or sleep with anybody, but I just put myself in a position I shouldn't have been in while I was having a conversation I shouldn't have had.

• 2:13Stavros Halkias?

  Damn.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Which is not okay. And I take responsibility.

• 2:16Stavros Halkias?

  Didn't even get pussy, moved out, kids gone, didn't even get your dick sucked, bro.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  Clearly, bro.

• 2:22Stavros Halkias?

  That's a tough one. Living in a house you fucking hate.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Let me tell you.

• 2:28Stavros Halkias?

  Didn't even take the raccoon butt plug out of the girl you met on Discord and put your dick in, man? And you lost it all?

• 2:34Speaker 02

  Not the red gem, right?

• 2:39Speaker 02

  No, but she, uh, don't get me wrong, this girl has, uh, like, she's the girl who got two coaches fired and, and, you know, all those things like growing up. Like, she's been a problem.

• 2:49Stavros Halkias?

  Damn.

• 2:49Speaker 02

  And so I knew like, no, no shot. But apparently, when, uh, they were giving me moonshine, which I'm not a moonshine drinker, I don't know who is really.

• 2:58Stavros Halkias?

  But they were giving it to you, like you're a fucking child getting dosed.

• 3:02Speaker 02

  No, no, no, I take responsibility for my drinking, but I will say that I didn't bring the, the alcohol.

• 3:08Stavros Halkias?

  To where? Where are you talking about? Who is they? Where did you bring the alcohol?

• 3:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, so basically, I made a mistake, I take responsibility, I miss my kids, I'm, I am a good father.

• 3:19Stavros Halkias?

  No, I know, we're busting your balls.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  I play with my kids, I sleep five hours and I repeat it. And I've been making six figures since I was 20 years old. Like, I'm, I'm a hardworking guy.

• 3:30Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, dude, the 12-hour night, I mean, some blue collar, like, that is the, I worked at a machine shop where we did 12-hour shifts and it was like, uh, you know, in the, the summer of, and it was like a legitimate, like, part of me was like, if I didn't want to do comedy, I was looking at how much I was making already. And like, how much there was like, union, like, raises. And I was seeing like, these fucking guys who were just like, you know, just, they're just fucking red. You just look at them, like, these fucking hillbillies, right, with like shitty trucks? And then I see how much they're making, I'm like, wait, why the fuck? And it was awesome, because it's like, yes, it's tiring work, obviously, but it's like, you don't really take it home with you, and it's like, I, I, you know, we've been, we're big blue collar guys here, so,

• 4:14Stavros Halkias?

  you know, that, it does fuck you up, obviously, you're tired and there's like, wear and tear on your body, but, you know, if you work hard, you, you're in the right position, that's obviously a great, a great track to go down, so. So where are you now? What's going on? What's kind of like, where do you find yourself? What are you, what are you thinking about? What's, what's like, directly troubling you in this, in your circumstances?

• 4:33Speaker 02

  Yes, so the big thing is is that she was thinking about coming home and then um she is very like hyper religious once she got over with her mom to a point where they believe in prophets and they pay to go to these events where they um talk about like people prophesize over him and they they find out about their prophetic powers and uh so she she tells me she wakes up like she's coming right she's gonna come home we're gonna work this out it's what's best for the kids we still love each other and she tells me she had a dream about uh Donald Trump baptizing two babies and that the number two and the president the color red

• 5:09Stavros Halkias?

  Can't hear man is this worth it I mean Jesus fucking Christ dude

• 5:15Speaker 02

  This is literally the question right that's kinda what I'm calling this

• 5:18Stavros Halkias?

  Crazy

• 5:19Speaker 02

  Look you have love for your nephew right well the way I love my kids is like that

• 5:23Stavros Halkias?

  Times a thousand yeah for sure

• 5:25Speaker 02

  Right yeah and um and I'm not a dad who's like not there I mean I'm a dad who comes home plays with his kids I take him to the pool I take him I I hold my daughter all day like and I do la- I do laundry I do dishes like I'm a good husband as well don't get me wrong and um I do all those things I don't really have time for myself and I think that's kinda where I get into the drinking but now I got my meetings and stuff and that all helps but anyways for my kids it's just like where do I draw the line because the way I grew up and where I grew up and um you know I I had issues with being like ego and anger being quick to anger and just like people don't talk to me that way this and that and I've worked on those things for a long time

• 6:04Speaker 02

  um and I'm trying to draw a line between where's it stopping ego and start being enabling and and just do I really wanna go to court cuz she sent me paperwork yesterday and the paperwork's like she wants me to have him every other weekend and that's it and and she wants me to give her five grand a month and I'm like you're fucking crazy sorry excuse my language I'm like you're fucking crazy

• 6:24Stavros Halkias?

  How dare yeah please apologize more profusely for saying fuck thank you very much

• 6:30Speaker 02

  I apologize.

• 6:31Stavros Halkias?

  This guy's getting ready to move back in with his fucking religious wife.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  There's some dude over there sending butt pics in the chat. This is where we should do that.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's kind of my question is like, oh, and I guess I left out a very interesting part is that uh, I caught her like uh, basically two weeks after we had split up, like just separated. Then two months later, she had me pay for a trip where she was going on a retreat to get close to God.

• 7:00Stavros Halkias?

  Oh no.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  And when she came back, I went through her phone and I basically paid for a trip for her to go fuck some guy that she met uh, on Instagram.

• 7:07Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, that's nuts. I mean.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  And then you want to talk down to me about religion and how I'm not a good Christian.

• 7:14Stavros Halkias?

  This is insane. Like, I just don't know. Okay, look, your kids are obviously the big thing here, right? And that's obviously like, your kids are your number one priority. That's uh, how it should be. It's very admirable for you. I think it's pretty clear. I, I don't know, man. From everything you're talking about, it doesn't seem like you're, basically it's like you don't want to be with this person. And you're like, this is, this will be better for my kids and it'll save me a fuck some lawyer fees, but it's like, that's not a good enough reason to enter into this relationship again, in my opinion, right? Like, you clearly have resentments about the fucking house, right? Like, clearly you're still not over that. Like, you, you regret.

• 7:59Stavros Halkias?

  I bet you, if, if you're, if it wasn't, if you didn't have kids with this woman, there's no way you're getting back together with her, right?

• 8:08Speaker 02

  No, no, no shot. No, not, well, I'd like to say that I would be patient and try to help her through it, but the thing is, if you like, you have no, empathy, you have no like voice of reason in your head and that you're a victim. There's no change that she's seeking. And like, that's more my problem. Cause I would be, I've been five years patient about the only two things I ever asked her to do, which is spend less money and be more involved as a family.

• 8:31Stavros Halkias?

  Right, I guess I forgot about the money thing too. Yeah. And then the mom shit is kind of weird, cause it's like, again, it's nice to be around your family, obviously, but it's also like, you know, at the, at the same time, you, your family. Once you have kids, your family is your immediate family. That's that's A1. And then obviously, your parents should be up there, but it's like, it sounds like they have some kind of strange, kind of weird religious relationship going on here. Sounds like you don't really get along with her, with her mom.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm Mexican and, and she is not.

• 9:07Stavros Halkias?

  Mm hmm.

• 9:08Speaker 02

  And so right away, her mom was like, you know, they still call people colored.

• 9:12Stavros Halkias?

  Jesus Christ.

• 9:13Speaker 02

  It's very much like they're that way. So she didn't like me for that reason.

• 9:16Stavros Halkias?

  Probably really cool.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  I've reached the other branch out a lot and try to fix that. But yeah, she went straight to living with her mom as soon as things happened. Uh, even when I had bought a nice house in the Midwest, she would, I'd basically be flying her out every two weeks or like every two months. I mean,

• 9:31Stavros Halkias?

  dude.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  To be out here with her mom. And it's like, it's like, to me, it's my wife, then my kids, because I know for my kids to be right. My, me and my wife have to be right. But to her, it's like her mom, her dad.

• 9:42Stavros Halkias?

  I got, buddy, I got some really bad news for you. You and your wife are never gonna be right. Like, that's, that's the problem here. And, and look, maybe, maybe I'm being too, this is, this is troubling me. I'll just, do you see this?

• 9:57Speaker 02

  I love.

• 9:58Stavros Halkias?

  Sorry, sorry. Okay, okay, good. I thought it was the computer. Okay, sorry, man. We, we had a, we had, we have a problem with the monitor, but ah, dude, I just don't hear anything here that sounds like, that sounds worth you. And you know, you did, you did, you made some mistakes too, but it's also like, it's, I don't know, it didn't happen in a vacuum. You're clearly pretty unhappy and should you have addressed the things that bothered you before you started fucking sending your dick to some girl you never even got to fuck? Probably.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  That, I didn't do, I didn't do anything like that.

• 10:36Stavros Halkias?

  What the fuck did you even do, man?

• 10:37Speaker 02

  And it.

• 10:38Stavros Halkias?

  You flirted a little?

• 10:39Speaker 02

  Like, I mean, for you, I flirted, yeah. But for you, um, like with you, I'm sure you can understand, like, breaking old habits and like, kind of like the things you picked up being around a dad who kind of would flip his lid or be angry. And well, for me, my dad was a drunk. A big drinker.

• 10:55Stavros Halkias?

  And look, and you obviously have subs, right, you have a, you have a drinking problem, but you're, you're, you're big, you know, that's not even a sin if, if, if you're taking care of it. And, and I gotta be honest with you, man, it doesn't sound like, and look, whatever, she fucked some guy when you guys were separated. Not great, making you pay for it's insane. Once you're separated, it's like, you can't really be playing the like. But if we're really to keep score here, it's like, it doesn't, at the very least, right, without getting into the details and saying who's wrong or whatever, at the very least, it's not a functional relationship. It's not something that it seems like you're actually, that you actually want to get back into, right? This just seems like something you feel like you should do.

• 11:38Stavros Halkias?

  And, and yes, in a perfect world, would you have a good relationship with the mother of your children? Would you be together? Yes, but I'll tell you, and I don't know what kind of family you grew up in, but it's like, a functioning divorced family is way better than a constantly dysfunctional, you know, together on paper family, in my opinion, right? Like,

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:01Stavros Halkias?

  And, and,

• 12:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:02Stavros Halkias?

  And I also,

• 12:03Speaker 02

  I think what's,

• 12:03Stavros Halkias?

  Go ahead, go ahead. No, go ahead.

• 12:05Speaker 02

  I think what scares me about that too is that, I'm very reasonable and like, I understand, you know, I want fifty fifty and I'll set my schedule up so that I could do that and I'll make sure I get help out here. But for her, it's, uh, if it's not her way, it's no way. And she's, uh,

• 12:20Stavros Halkias?

  Does she work? I'm sorry, does she have a fucking job?

• 12:23Speaker 02

  No. So she's putting in the paperwork that,

• 12:26Stavros Halkias?

  We gotta stop talking before you turn me into a fucking one of those, what's your body count podcasts? You're, I'm feeling them, I'm feeling the fucking misogyny coursing through my veins right now.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  It's ridiculous. She wants five grand, she wants me to pay for her to go to school and I've spent the last five years.

• 12:40Stavros Halkias?

  That's fucking crazy.

• 12:41Speaker 02

  I've lived in high houses and places for her to go to the best schools. And then she comes up with a reason, like she stopped believing in childcare. So she doesn't believe in childcare anymore. And I'm like, when I have them, I have no, my family's all on the west coast. You moved me to the east coast, like, I'm gonna get them vaccinated and put them in childcare while I'm working.

• 12:58Stavros Halkias?

  Oh my god, dude.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  She's like, no, that's not gonna happen. I put it in the paperwork, they can't be vaccinated. and that I had a prophetic uh I had prophesized over me that the kids are gonna be homeschooled and I was like have you met a homeschooled kid?

• 13:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  My kid's not gonna be homeschooled.

• 13:12Stavros Halkias?

  I mean dude, you're you're getting pissed talking to the imaginary version of her in your head. What do you think's gonna happen when you're fucking in the same house like? I hate to tell, I mean, I just don't think you're you're basically trying to be like um. You're trying to be like Colin Powell who's like, oh, fuck, we shouldn't be in Iraq, but uh the Iraq war is unjustified. But George Bush is gonna do it anyway. I guess I better go overlook it. I best I guess I better go get involved. It's it's inevitable. It's like, so you're basically like, wow, this woman is for, you know, a lack of a better term, a dumb bitch. And I don't want, I don't want her to be raising my kids half, you know.

• 13:55Stavros Halkias?

  Be raising my kids without my supervision, without me trying to run interference. I got bad news, brother. This is the mother of your children, one way or another, and I think you. Reentering a toxic relationship where she weirdly has you by the balls, even though. I don't really see what you did that wrong. I mean, in the grand fucking scheme of things, somebody who. Uh has, you know, paid for everything. You seem to be, you seem to, if you have, if you have fault here, it's. Uh it's sort of like allowing yourself to be pushed around by her and not setting. Boundaries earlier in the relationship to stop this kind of behavior or. Stop the relationship, not realizing earlier that this is the, this is the kind of unreasonable person.

• 14:38Stavros Halkias?

  That you do not mix well with, that is not someone who's gonna be healthy for you long term. If there, if you have, if you, your biggest mistake is that. Not, you know, whatever minor fucking infidelity that especially somebody's fucking, I don't mean to get nineteen fifties with it, but it's like. You're fucking paying for everything and all you did was flirt with somebody when you were pissed off, you moved to the exact house she wanted to. It ain't great, but it's not the kind of thing that should ruin a fucking family, in my opinion. Again, we don't have all the facts, whatever, whatever, suck my dick if you don't agree. But.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  I think there's, yeah, there's, I was like, there's. I touched butt over the jeans, not like, you get what I'm saying, but still fuck, I fucked up, I'm fucking.

• 15:16Stavros Halkias?

  Hey, you're at a crowded bar trying to get by, you know, anyway, it doesn't matter, look. The point is, the point is, whatever it is, right? You you know. Whatever it is, right? There's there's wrong on both sides, whatever. The reality is, I don't see any way you could be with this person. I think your resentments are too, are justifiably too high. I think you're right that this sucks, that it's gonna cost you more money in the long run. Uh, you better get a fucking good ass lawyer. She doesn't seem like the kind of person who's gonna be reasonable. It will be, it will be fucking annoying. But, the alternative, you're, the alternative that you're thinking about doesn't exist, bro. Like, like, we get back together and it's good enough, like...

• 16:00Stavros Halkias?

  That's not how you wanna live your life. That's not what you wanna teach your children a relationship is, right? Like, you wanna go, work hard, spend your half your time with them, hopefully get into a good relationship, find somebody else that's functional for you, right? And you're working on your shit, you're working on your fucking, uh, substance abuse problems. You're working, you're in therapy, you're getting over like all, you know, ego, anger, whatever childhood stuff you have, you're working on that shit. The best thing for your children, especially, especially given the fact that, yeah, unfortunately, they're gonna spend half the time with somebody who thinks she's fucking prophetic, like, best case scenario, she's mildly schizophrenic. Worst case scenario, she's just fucking stupid. Uh, like, that's, that's who's gonna be raising your children half the time, and, and her mom.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  Oh, god.

• 16:46Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, that's, this is, and yes, it sucks, but this is a lesson to like, whatever your next relationship is, you can't, you know, just let yourself kinda get pushed over and think, "Well, in the future, we're gonna fix this," right? Like, you have to set clear boundaries, you know the kind of person you wanna be with, you know it's not who you had children with, you know, you know what I mean? Like, you guys are separated. This is a lesson for you, unfortunately, you learned it in a, you're gonna learn it in an incredibly costly way. You're gonna learn, you're gonna, between lawyer fees and child support, whatever the fuck, I don't know the details of that stuff.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  Alimony.

• 17:22Stavros Halkias?

  Alimony, all that shit, right?

• 17:24Speaker 02

  And I'm twenty-five like

• 17:27Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I mean, you made a huge error. This person sucks.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  The thing is dude is like, you know, it's like you wanna be vulnerable, you wanna trust this person, you wanna give them what they want and think that they're gonna have your back. And then it's like instead they just become somebody who is privileged and expects things and it's like, how does that work? You know what I mean?

• 17:46Stavros Halkias?

  What do you fucking get out of this? What I'm trying to figure out.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  Like I have to not do the right things and not be a good guy to you? For you to want to do things that you say I keep you from doing? That makes no sense. It's so sideways, man. It's just such a victim's mentality. And it's like, I've worked hard my whole life, man. Like you can't give me

• 18:06Stavros Halkias?

  You're clearly not compatible dude, you know, yes, you fucking like I don't even need to know the exact, and look, my hunch is you're completely right, right? But even if you weren't, right, and even if you're like, you're just not compatible with this person, this person is not right for you and you need to understa- like, you, going forward, you cannot have, these are not the types of people you can have relationships with, and I think right now you need to focus on figuring out the best way out of this relationship long-term, you know? I mean, she doesn't have any money, right? Hope you could afford a better lawyer unless her mom is rich or some shit. Try and

• 18:42Speaker 02

  Her parents paid for a lawyer, they already served me paperwork, but I have a really good, uh, I got a good family and I basically sent the paperwork to, uh, my pops came down here, bought up a bunch of properties so that he can move some of my family out here.

• 18:56Stavros Halkias?

  That's great, man. Well, that's, that's huge, and I think this is the, this is the lesson. There's no salvaging this, right? There's rebuilding your life, there's creating a good environment for your children, it's nice that some of your family's gonna move out there, that's huge cuz that sucks that you're isolated over there. But, you know, focus on being a good dad, keep that work ethic going, and just, that's it, bro. I mean, it's gonna suck, clearly this is not, I, this doesn't feel like the kind of separation that's gonna be, uh, you know, very, uh, it's not gonna be friendly, it's not gonna be, let's, let's keep the lawyers out of it, let's just, what's right? She's gonna try and get every fucking dime, this, you know?

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:38Stavros Halkias?

  Win. Do your best to win this fucking custody and this lawsuit or whatever happens and this divorce. And then from then on, whatever it is, don't be fucking, you know, just move forward. Um, and do the best you can for your kids. And the best thing you can do is learn from a personal level. Learn from this, know the kind of person you want to end up with. And eventually you will, you'll have a sort of, you know, maybe you'll end up with just a nice, they'll get a nice stepmom. You know what I mean? You'll, you'll provide a nice environment for them. You'll have your family around and, and that's that, bro. It sucks.

• 20:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:13Stavros Halkias?

  It would be nice if it went a different way, but you know.

• 20:16Speaker 02

  I think I can go back to the Latino girls, dude.

• 20:18Stavros Halkias?

  Not a bad idea.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  They're, they're, they're jealous, but uh, let me tell you, they're loyal.

• 20:25Stavros Halkias?

  You're gonna overcorrect hard the fucking other way and just get fucking.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:30Stavros Halkias?

  You're gonna get stabbed with.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  You see me wearing pink a lot, my hair really well gelled.

• 20:35Stavros Halkias?

  Go back, return. This turns you, this turns you into a fucking Latino supremacist, fucking with the, fucking with these fucking tongue talking, midwestern religious dumb bitches.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  Well, dude, I want to tell you something about being blue collar in the east coast though, man is like, it is what you said. It's a bunch of hillbillies and pickups and a lot of Trump stickers on any earth, like any surface you can put a sticker on. There's a Trump sticker there, dude. It's brutal.

• 20:59Stavros Halkias?

  Pretty, listen, I always got along with those guys, like on a personal level, it's not a bad time. It's just that you don't want to start talking about how they think society should be.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh. The, the, the, uh, the, they're like, oh, you know, their schools are gay. And I was like, what school? Where did you get this?

• 21:18Stavros Halkias?

  You don't have children. Your children have been out of school for 20 years.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  Cause of the, the gay kids. They're like, alright dude.

• 21:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I know. It sucks.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  That's what we're worried about.

• 21:28Stavros Halkias?

  Hopefully one day we can, we can get these guys on our side by them realizing who's, who's robbing them is the ri- is rich, is the upper class. But, cause they are a good time and we have a lot more in common with them than we have differences. It's just that they fall for some dumb bullshit, you know?

• 21:42Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. We're all mad about middle class taxes. So I guess we can all kind of touch base.

• 21:46Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I mean, the middle class is getting. Getting fucked. That is the absolute truth and until everyone understands that and understands that the only way around that middle class tax has been going up while the taxes for the, you know, top percentage has been going down. They pay less percentage than they ever had than they have in a long time.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Even in the recent bill, but all they focus on is not taxed overtime for I think it's only up to like 10 grand or something.

• 22:10Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, which is fucking it's just something that sounds.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  It's just something that looks good.

• 22:14Stavros Halkias?

  Exactly.

• 22:14Speaker 02

  And they bury the rest of what they gave to the rich.

• 22:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  And they still they still say, but anyways, brother, I gotta let you go. I know you got a bunch of other calls. I will say, uh, love your podcast. I've listened to it for a long time. Uh, love you, LD.

• 22:25Stavros Halkias?

  Thank you, man.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  You guys are great, man.

• 22:26Stavros Halkias?

  Good luck.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  And I hope your weight loss journey and, um, I hope you find some love, man, in your life.

• 22:30Stavros Halkias?

  Thank you, bro. You too.

• 22:31Speaker 02

  You're not lonely at the end of the day, brother.

• 22:32Stavros Halkias?

  Thanks, man. And listen, call calls back, uh, calls back. Keep us updated. Like, uh, you know, when this is all maybe like a year, how you're how you're doing settled. Hopefully this is all over and you're, you know, you're doing good.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, brother, I will. I will. I mean, I'm, I'll tell you what, if she gets my kids, dude, I'll, I'll leave a message. You know what I'm saying? If she thinks I'm paying her way through.

• 22:54Stavros Halkias?

  Hey, maybe don't, uh, if that if you're depending on what you're planning, maybe don't leave a message. Uh, but all right, dude. We'll talk to you later, brother. Good luck.

• 23:03Speaker 02

  Brother, take it easy.

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