Bonus #198 - Derek Gaines and Pockets Graham [PATREON PREVIEW]

Patreon preview. Unlock full episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld Derek Gaines and Pockets Graham join the pod to discuss Derek's new special Goodlum (Tubi), why Tubi is awesome, how they got the great Bill Duke to lend his voice to Derek's special, humanity vs. nature, drums vs. flats, RoboCop, Pam Grier, Derek’s birth on an Air Force base, Pockets’s mom working as social worker after overcoming crack addiction, working in below-the-line film production, Tom Cruise, Michael Mann, superhero fatigue, and much more. Watch Derek Gaines's new special Goodlum on Tubi: https://tubitv.com/movies/100058482/derek-gaines-goodlum Follow Derek Gaines on social media: https://punchup.live/derekgaines https://www.instagram.com/thegreatboy https://twitter.com/derek1gaines Follow Pockets Graham on social media: https://www.instagram.com/impockets https://x.com/ImPockets ☎️ Want to be a part of the show? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice! 🎤 Watch Stav's new special Uncle Stav on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/82055929 ‼️ Bonus episodes every week! Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld 🎟️ See Stavvy live!! 🛥️💕!!! https://stavvy.biz/ for tickets

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Speaker 00

  Hey Richmond, Mark Smith, Midas Richmond, 2026. We have been doing what we do for 29 years. Total car care, total community care. In 2026, we are donating $365,000. A thousand dollars a day to the nonprofits we've historically supported. Gooch and Care, Shalom Farms, St. Joseph's Villa, Ask, the Colonial Heights Food Pantry, everybody we've helped over the years. These are important things making a big impact in our society right now. Total car care, total community care, that is Midas of Richmond.

• 0:30Speaker 01

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• 1:00Speaker 02

  Hey, Stav, hey, Elders, hello, renowned guest. Got a bit of a weird situation going on.

• 1:08Stavros Halkias?

  He's zany.

• 1:08Speaker 02

  A little help. So, little context, there's this guy, me and him have been friends since elementary school. We grew up a little bit together, play video games and everything together, and we're both in our mid-20s now. And he, he recently started working at a car dealership. You know, and that's fine and dandy. But now, every time that me and him have a conversation, or we hang out, or any, or play games together, I'm noticing the conversations are starting to lean towards him asking me if I've ever thought about trading in my car, if I've ever thought about buying a new car.

• 1:47Stavros Halkias?

  That's funny. He's bringing work home.

• 1:50Speaker 02

  I did the kicking the can down the road thing where I just told him, like, oh, you know, if I ever do, you know, I'll come to you, you know.

• 1:57Stavros Halkias?

  He's like, I love my Subaru.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  But now, every time he brings up the topic, he starts bringing up numbers. The most recent time, he is like, you know, I could probably, you know, get you out of your car and get you into a pre-owned.

• 2:11Stavros Halkias?

  Sounds like his homie joined a cult.

• 2:13Speaker 02

  And it's, um, I'm not sure.

• 2:16Stavros Halkias?

  You deserve a Mercedes.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  I normally would just let this die out, but he's a good friend of mine. And it doesn't seem like he's going to be leaving this job anytime soon, so I'm kind of wondering, what's the, what would you suggest? What do you think I can do to kind of, you know, politely tell him?

• 2:33Stavros Halkias?

  He's like, I don't want a fucking Mini Cooper. Yeah. Shut the fuck up, dude. I don't want a Lexus RX.

• 2:43Stavros Halkias?

  I know it's good on gas.

• 2:46Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, that's insane. That's like, he's saying it's like his best, like a good friend of his, right? They went to elementary school. It would be like if you, every time I talk to you, tried to sell me a car. Like, the fact that he's nervous to say this is kind of weird to me, because when you're talking about a friend this long and this old, it's like... They both listen to the podcast. Just be like, shut the fuck up, idiot. Yeah, no. You're right. And this is, we can, listen, our caller, you can hear it, he's, he doesn't seem like a, like a confrontational guy. Don't sound like it. As he's saying it, it looks like he, it sounds like he's looking over his shoulder. Hey, guys, yeah, so I don't know if it's a thing, yeah. So, this is a moment for you, this is a, this is a big moment in your life to learn how to stand up for yourself.

• 3:29Stavros Halkias?

  And not take bullshit, because if you can't tell your best friend to stop trying to sell you a pre-owned car every time you hang out. A certified pre-owned. Then you can't, then how are you going to tell, like, an authority figure to, you know, respect you or something like that? I see that.

• 3:45Speaker 04

  I have, how about this, if he doesn't stop, fuck his girlfriend.

• 3:49Stavros Halkias?

  Doesn't have this in, he doesn't have that in him. He doesn't have the balls for that. He doesn't have that in him. But I like the thought process. That's some dog shit to do, but yeah.

• 3:57Speaker 04

  He'll never tell you about a pre-owned Lexus ever again.

• 3:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, that's the Bronx way right there.

• 4:04Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, this is, I mean, it's, this is just such weird behavior. It's not real friendship, bro. It's not, and I think all you have to say is like, dude, shut the fuck up. Yeah, because it sounds like he's never called him out on anything. I don't want a car right now, and if you keep asking me about it, when I do get one, I promise it won't be from you. What you say is like, look, we're friends, you seem to really like this job, and look, part of this probably is somebody, we all have a friend who like really gets into something. Yeah, yeah, of course. Whether it's their job, a relationship, a hobby, and this guy happens to, as fucking pathetic as it is, love being a used car salesman, right? This makes him feel alive. Very 80s of him. Right?

• 4:46Stavros Halkias?

  And so, and so, all you can, and like, maybe it could just be him being, and look, the other thing is, he might be struggling at work, and they're like, well, go to the, I remember when I was a fucking, I was a telemarketer. That's so funny. And they're like, well, call people you know. And I'm like, I don't want to sell people I know a mortgage. Are you crazy? Like, what the fuck is wrong? I never sold a single thing, by the way. Oh, you would seem like you would be an awesome telemarketer, bro. I just, I mean, we were pulling a scam, it was a scam company. Okay, that's what most... It was called American Government Mortgage. And it was literally designed to trick old people into thinking the American government was calling them about their mortgage. God damn. So, so, the fact that I didn't do anything, I feel like robbing. You know what I mean?

• 5:29Stavros Halkias?

  Like, I was like, I did the good thing by being a horrible employee by accident, but this guy might just be too into his shit, he also might be struggling at work and like really needing a win. It also sounds like his first job. Might, yeah, might be like a job he's excited about, whatever. But a used car salesman is, is pretty crazy. And then talking in numbers after a while. When you're just hanging out with your boy, and he's bringing up APR and shit like that. For fucking, yeah, like warranties, and then two years, the first three-year leases. Yeah, that's weird. And I can tell you what, that is how I would handle it. I would just be like, dude, you are fucking annoying me. Right, Stav. I appreciate, and look, you could even be like, look, I appreciate you letting me know the deals, if I were looking at, for a car, we could have this conversation, but

• 6:13Stavros Halkias?

  also, and this is the other thing you'd say, also, it feels like you're relating to me like a used car salesman. You're trying to sell me. I don't feel like, I'll be honest with you, when you first got this job, I felt like you might even hook me up, because we're boys. Now I feel like you see me as a fucking mark. Yeah. You see me as an easy, as easy, an easy fucking tally mark for your boss, and it's pissing me the fuck off. Far. That you've, you've turned our relationship into this. It's how he's giving him the information. It's like, you're selling me, nigga. Like, if you want to do me a favor, that's different. Totally, if you're like, or if you're like, listen, I know you've liked a, whatever car, right? Like, you fucking, a Pontiac Firebird. I got that. I rock Z28. Yeah, I know you've wanted an Infiniti since we were children. Yeah. Right?

• 6:55Stavros Halkias?

  We just got one that's perfect, whatever, like, I can, like, I'll let you get in on it before we put it out in the pub. Yeah, I got the hookup, dog. I got you the hookup on that. Come on, I could fucking trade it in, like, and that's how I would handle it, be like, dude, you're being fucking weird and annoying, you're putting your fucking pathetic job in front of our friendship, and if, I will literally say, like, if you continue this, I will, I will on purpose not buy a car from you. I will, you are losing a sale, put it in those terms, because he at least understands that, right now, when I want a car, I'll come to you. If you keep talking to me about this, I will buy a fucking car from CarMax before I buy it. And pull up to your house. And, yes, exactly. With your girl in the passenger seat. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be getting popped by your bitch in a, in a Nissan Sentra

• 7:39Stavros Halkias?

  that I bought $500 over sticker price, just to piss you off, right? And so, that's, that's how I would handle it personally.

• 7:51Stavros Halkias?

  Straight up and down, man. With driving gloves on. Ooh, the fingerless gloves. That's missing the knuckles, yeah. In a Nissan, just to fucking spite you. That's how I would handle it, my friend, and yes, look, look, this is an opportunity to stand up for yourself. Talk your shit, Stav. God damn it, man.