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1:01 Speaker 02 I'd like your thoughts on a moral dilemma involving a family secret that's been in the family for a couple of decades now. Um, I'm in my thirties for context, but when I was around 18, I was drinking with my mom and she decided to let me in on a fucked up secret about my little cousin. Uh, my mom told me that my cousin's biological dad died in an accident when he was an infant, like like three. And apparently this dude had quite a bit of money and had left a trust fund to my cousin. Well, my aunt, she made the decision not to tell my cousin that the dad he's known his
1:44 Speaker 02 whole life isn't his real dad and that his bio dad died and left him this huge sum of money. And according to my mom, almost everyone in the family knows the secret and my aunt's been known to threaten anyone with disowning them if they decide to tell my cousin the truth.
2:01 Speaker 00 Whoa.
2:02 Speaker 02 At the time I was livid for a, my mom telling me the fucking secret.
2:07 Stavros Halkias? Yeah, that's fucked up on your mom's part.
2:08 Speaker 02 And telling me that I can't tell my cousin the truth.
2:12 Stavros Halkias? But also, wait a second, a mom that gets drunk with her 18 year old?
2:15 Speaker 00 Yeah.
2:16 Stavros Halkias? Had a problem with boundaries. That's shocking.
2:21 Speaker 04 I'm blown away that the secret was revealed that late, you know, if this is like a drinking vibe.
2:25 Stavros Halkias? Yeah.
2:25 Speaker 04 How'd that not come up earlier?
2:26 Stavros Halkias? Yeah.
2:27 Speaker 04 You know what I'm saying?
2:27 Stavros Halkias? It's, I mean, why you decide to tell your kid, this is crazy, but let's, let's let her finish, elders.
2:32 Speaker 02 And I don't know, I was young and my mom begged me not to tell him, so I didn't. And now all of this time has passed and I'm getting the urge to tell him again. Um, I personally feel that he deserves to know. I would want to know.
2:47 Speaker 04 To get the money.
2:48 Speaker 02 Like a medical condition. It's important to know your family history, but um, I don't know. Uh, if I tell him, I'd have to tell him that his real dad is dead, that his whole family is known for years.
3:02 Speaker 04 God damn.
3:03 Speaker 02 And on top of all that, my aunt decided to use the trust fund for the whole family and the money is gone.
3:10 Speaker 04 Oh, the final, the final bitch.
3:15 Speaker 02 Thank you, love you.
3:16 Speaker 04 Sorry, sorry. What?
3:18 Stavros Halkias? What?
3:19 Speaker 04 No.
3:20 Stavros Halkias? That's crazy.
3:23 Speaker 04 Dude. Oh, what, whoa.
3:25 Stavros Halkias? That's actually fucking insane.
3:27 Speaker 04 Use the money for what though? Like.
3:29 Speaker 05 She said use the trust fund for the whole family. I don't know exactly what that means.
3:34 Speaker 04 Like, did she get a house? Maybe the house?
3:36 Stavros Halkias? Does the kid get anything?
3:38 Speaker 04 So she, so she took the, the money from the guy. How'd she even access it though? If it wasn't hers?
3:44 Stavros Halkias? I guess.
3:45 Speaker 05 If the kid was young, probably just guardianship shit.
3:48 Speaker 04 And you, you, that's illegal, isn't it?
3:49 Stavros Halkias? Who knows? I mean, who also knows what this guy, I mean, who even knows how this set was set up?
3:54 Speaker 04 Right.
3:55 Stavros Halkias? Did they, I mean, the guy died in an accident, so it's not like he was planning to fucking die, you know? But this is fucking insane.
4:01 Speaker 04 That's wild, dude. She's bad. She's a bad lady.
4:04 Stavros Halkias? How old is the kid? How old's the, did she say how old the cousin is?
4:07 Speaker 04 Thirties. Well, she's in thirties.
4:10 Stavros Halkias? She's in her, you alright buddy?
4:12 Speaker 05 She didn't specify, but.
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4:21 Speaker 04 Never seen a man.
4:23 Stavros Halkias? Here's the crazy thing, every episode, he fucks up in a new way. It's like, there's only so many ways to fuck up. Like, I've never seen that eight button press in my life.
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4:53 Speaker 05 Yeah, for sure.
4:54 Stavros Halkias? Okay, alright, anyway. So, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm very confused here because
5:01 Stavros Halkias? I was thinking originally that this is a trust fund thing. When the kid's 18, they find out, hey, you're, we didn't want this to get in the way with your dad because this is your dad. This guy loves you, he raised you like a son. And he loves you like a son and you should think of him as your dad. But, things are, you know, it was a little complicated. We never, didn't know how to bring it up. We also didn't want you for this money to fuck you up. We didn't want you to be like a weird kid who always knew at the end of the day, when he turned 18, he had 3 million bucks waiting for him.
5:33 Speaker 04 I can see that too.
5:35 Stavros Halkias? To me, that is a little like, hey, it's fucked up. Your mom let you in on this, but just mind your business until the kid's 18.
5:42 Speaker 04 Right.
5:43 Stavros Halkias? But, now it seems like this money's gone and no one's planning to tell this person?
5:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:50 Stavros Halkias? That has not, here's the thing, it's one thing for your dad to not be who your dad is. I, I'm on the record as thinking like, a lot of this is nurture more than nature. Like, I've had, we've had arguments on this podcast. I, I think a lot of times, it's like, look, I think who raised you is your dad. More than anything, right? And obviously biology plays a part, but to me, that's actually, that's weird. But I also could see it. What, you're bearing the lead. This is not, your aunt is hiding your kid, their, your cousin's parentage. This is, your aunt stole from her fucking son.
6:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
6:24 Stavros Halkias? And this is a fucking crime. And in my opinion. Unless, look, if there's something where she's like, I'm gonna tell him when he turns X, like, if this kid, if, if whatever, the ages are different, and this is her little cousin, and her mom told her when she was 18, but I don't know, but if this person is an adult, who no one is planning on telling.
6:44 Speaker 04 Right.
6:45 Stavros Halkias? I think you gotta tell him. I think, I think, I think you gotta tell him, and I think, and then the aunt is threatening to disown you, it's like, who cares?
6:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, the aunt is definitely the villain of the story.
6:57 Stavros Halkias? She's a piece of shit, she stole from her kids, she's straight, and listen, if you want, like, I don't know, maybe I'm, I don't know the details, maybe it's the kind of thing where there's financial instability, they needed to dip into it, whatever, but it's like, the money's gone, this kid's biological dad, you have, and look, it's also kind of disrespectful of this person's memory.
7:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:16 Stavros Halkias? Who like, he never got to meet his kid, he doesn't even get to know, and he left all this money for his kid.
7:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:22 Stavros Halkias? You stole it, and you're not even telling him this person existed? I think it's insanely fucked up for her.
7:28 Speaker 04 It's also a point of a return, right? Like, you, there's too many infractions now.
7:31 Stavros Halkias? For her, yes.
7:32 Speaker 04 To be like, hey, bring it up.
7:34 Stavros Halkias? For her, yes, she would love for this to stay buried forever. But I think, and look, I'm normally a key, like, I am normally a mind your own business guy, in a lot of ways. Especially if you love, which I assume you're pretty close to your cousin, you care about him, whatever, especially if there's somebody who matters to you, this is a huge injustice. And I think that he deserves to know. And I think you should tell, and I think you need to blow this shit the fuck up. Now, you need to understand that you would, many people in your family will see you as the villain, even though it's not your fault, right? Many, you know what I mean?
8:08 Speaker 04 Right.
8:08 Stavros Halkias? Like, many people will see that, and you have to be ready for that, you have to be ready to deal with the fallout.
8:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:14 Stavros Halkias? But I also think, you kind of, in my, I, I would say in my, in your position, I think I could not live with that secret. If no one is planning to ever tell him, and especially the money being gone.
8:25 Speaker 04 I, I think you owe it to your cousin.
8:26 Stavros Halkias? Yeah.
8:27 Speaker 04 To tell him, actually. It's actually like a directive.
8:29 Stavros Halkias? This is fucking insane, like, I think you gotta tell him. I mean.
8:33 Speaker 04 And then buy him some lunch, too, I feel like.
8:35 Stavros Halkias? Yeah, give him a little cash.
8:36 Speaker 04 Give him a little, something, something.
8:37 Stavros Halkias? This guy didn't even.
8:38 Speaker 04 Because this guy lost how many? I mean, I want to know, I want to know the number too.
8:42 Stavros Halkias? Yeah, I mean, look, who knows? But I, and look, to play devil's advocate, to, to argue against this, is there a let sleeping dogs lie? Like, this person has no idea what he lost, right? And you would be potentially letting him know some, you actually, you'd be really fucking up his whole world. Because you'd be letting him know.
9:03 Speaker 04 For the dad thing.
9:04 Stavros Halkias? The dad thing's a whole, its own thing.
9:06 Speaker 04 We're like glazing over that.
9:07 Stavros Halkias? But now you're letting him know that his mom stole from him?
9:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:11 Stavros Halkias? What if somebody told you right now, your mom took two, even if it's like tw- even if it's like 25 grand?
9:18 Speaker 04 Sure.
9:18 Stavros Halkias? But let's say it's like.
9:19 Speaker 04 That's funny because she already has taken that.
9:21 Stavros Halkias? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
9:23 Speaker 04 Give me a brown mom. Yeah, that's the entry level for the house.
9:27 Stavros Halkias? But I'm just saying, like, like, if somebody right now told you, like, hey, um, your mom stole a million dollars. I honestly think it would fuck me up so much more.
9:37 Speaker 04 Also, your dad's not your dad.
9:38 Stavros Halkias? It would fuck me up so much more to hear my mom stole from me, that amount of money? And then she crafted a lie that included hiding my dad?
9:45 Speaker 04 Yes.
9:46 Stavros Halkias? Because it's not just your dad's not your dad, it's your mom didn't tell you your dad was your dad to steal from you.
9:50 Speaker 04 No, no, for sure. Also, another point of this is that you, if your mom is a hoe, right?
9:56 Stavros Halkias? Sure, sure, sure.
9:57 Speaker 04 And you don't think your mom's a hoe, that is a deep core tenet of your philosophy when you're growing up. My mom's a good mom.
10:03 Stavros Halkias? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:03 Speaker 04 She's not a hoe. A lot of moms had hoe moms and they, they started there. So they can deal with the hoe mom.
10:08 Stavros Halkias? Right.
10:09 Speaker 04 If you had not a hoe mom, and then you have to find out at 35, you had a hoe mom?
10:12 Stavros Halkias? That's tough.
10:13 Speaker 04 That breaks up a lot of shit.
10:15 Stavros Halkias? That fucks up your whole life.
10:16 Speaker 04 Whole concept, like, women calibration. What? Because a lot of times you compare women to your mom, like, she's a hoe. That's not much, but your, your mom is the center. Now your mom's the hoe. Where's your, where's your compass now?
10:27 Stavros Halkias? Yeah, your compass is all fucked up.
10:29 Speaker 04 So that, that's what I'm thinking about too.
10:30 Stavros Halkias? And so I think in situations like this, I tend to go. Don't stir the pot until something becomes really egregious.
10:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:40 Stavros Halkias? And to me, the fact that there's no plan to ever tell them is that's egregious.
10:45 Speaker 04 No letter?
10:46 Stavros Halkias? That's egregious.
10:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:47 Stavros Halkias? But the, the combination, cause it takes what could, again, it could have been an innocent if misguided attempt, cause people now say the literature is you want to tell kids as early as possible if they're adopted or whatever.
11:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, sure, sure.
11:01 Stavros Halkias? You could argue that if they didn't steal the money, this is a misguided attempt to like, make sure this kid grows up normal, right? Before letting him know about the money. But once you've put money is stolen, this becomes a really crazy infraction against your child. And I think it rises to the level where I would have a moral problem keeping this secret.
11:21 Speaker 04 Sure.
11:22 Stavros Halkias? I really would. This is just twofold, too hard.
11:24 Speaker 04 I agree. Also, are you reading a lot of literature about this?
11:28 Stavros Halkias? I just mean like, I've talked, I know, it's funny to say that.
11:31 Speaker 04 Well, you know, the prevailing voices that might be discovered is like locked in.
11:34 Stavros Halkias? I weirdly have been dealing, I really have been dealing with something about adopt, like a project that deals with adoption. And so I weirdly have, have like learned a little.
11:42 Speaker 04 Like it was like, of course, as a man who is engaged in this kind of thing.
11:45 Stavros Halkias? Yeah. Well, I'm, you know, this, this program, we give advice. I'm sort of an expert and I'm not an expert. Do not listen to anything I say legally. You cannot fucking sue me for anything. Fuck you, fuck you, suck my dick, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
11:57 Stavros Halkias? Anyway, that's what I think. Elders, you seem like you have thoughts bubbling up over there.
12:01 Speaker 05 I honestly don't really.
12:03 Stavros Halkias? You don't?
12:04 Speaker 05 No.
12:04 Stavros Halkias? Okay, great.
12:05 Speaker 05 Besides that, yeah, it's pretty fucked up. They're lying to this kid. I don't even know what I would do. That is like, uh, such a big responsibility to know that, especially to like unload that on an 18 year old. And, and, and that can be like so traumatic for an 18 year old too, where it's like.
12:22 Stavros Halkias? Is he, do we know how old he is though?
12:24 Speaker 05 I, I mean, I mean her, like her finding this out at 18 and mom telling her. Like if someone told me that's an 18, I'd be like, whoa, that's pretty juicy.
12:32 Stavros Halkias? No, at 18, it's not, I'm not faulting her for not acting on it.
12:36 Speaker 04 Right, right.
12:36 Stavros Halkias? I'm saying I get why this is eating her alive.
12:39 Speaker 05 Yeah.
12:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:40 Stavros Halkias? And I think even though the time has passed, or not passed, but it's like, it's been a while, I think it's like.
12:48 Speaker 04 Tell them.
12:48 Stavros Halkias? I would like to know that if this were me, I would want to know this information.
12:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:54 Stavros Halkias? I think this is, this is just such a crazy betrayal.
12:57 Speaker 04 It's very sad, Loki. At the core of it, it's very sad.
13:00 Stavros Halkias? And listen, also, like, I, you also, let's give some grace to this woman who, like, the person she was having a kid with died.
13:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
13:07 Stavros Halkias? The kid's a month old, right? She doesn't know what the fuck, and I get making, again.
13:11 Speaker 05 That's the other thing. She said he was three when the dad died, which is kinda crazy.
13:18 Stavros Halkias? He wasn't three. She said an infant, and then she said three, which is wrong in two ways. An infant's not three, that's a toddler. I mean, I don't know, she might be, either way.
13:26 Speaker 05 She said, I think, like, three, whatever.
13:27 Stavros Halkias? The kid was young enough that the lie worked on him.
13:30 Speaker 05 Yeah.
13:31 Stavros Halkias? I get, again, to put some grace to this woman, she went through something insanely traumatic.
13:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
13:35 Stavros Halkias? Right? Who she was with died, she's scrambling.
13:39 Speaker 04 Also, you know, raising a kid, to talk high and mighty while someone's raising a kid alone.
13:45 Stavros Halkias? But she wasn't alone, it was with somebody else.
13:46 Speaker 04 Right, but how, well, there's a period between.
13:48 Stavros Halkias? Sure.
13:48 Speaker 04 Right?
13:49 Stavros Halkias? And, and listen, maybe if it was like pure emergency that the trust fund was, but something tells me the way she says, used it for the family, I don't, I think it's, feels like she stole her child's money.
14:02 Speaker 04 It could have been just for catering and stuff like that.
14:03 Stavros Halkias? Yeah, like vacations.
14:04 Speaker 04 Vacations and.
14:06 Stavros Halkias? So I don't know, that's.
14:07 Speaker 04 I need more information. Also, how close is the family? If the family sucks in general, then you don't owe them anything? If y'all are meeting together every week, it's a different thing. Maybe y'all are tight knit.
14:15 Stavros Halkias? Even then, that's, is that even worse?
14:18 Speaker 04 I mean, it wouldn't change how I see you, what you do.
14:21 Stavros Halkias? Yeah, yeah.
14:21 Speaker 04 It will be different how your life changes, once you do do it, which I hope you do.
14:25 Stavros Halkias? Yeah.
14:25 Speaker 04 Tell this man.
14:26 Stavros Halkias? Yeah.
14:26 Speaker 04 Uh, about this. Oh my god.
14:28 Stavros Halkias? And I think you need to do like a, I would also do like a kind of rallying the troops thing first, and be like, talk to your mom about it, be like.
14:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
14:36 Stavros Halkias? This is insanely fucked up.
14:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:37 Stavros Halkias? We should do something about this, or I don't know.
14:39 Speaker 04 I wonder how the finances of the, of the guy is, you know? If he's poor, it's gonna hurt way more.
14:45 Stavros Halkias? That's interesting. And also, it's like, when she says for the family, did she use it to pay the kids' college? Did she put, did she do it for the kids?
14:52 Speaker 04 What a godfather terminology, you know?
14:54 Stavros Halkias? We kinda need to know.
14:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, for the family is such a weird way to describe it.
14:58 Stavros Halkias? And to me, that, what that means is that it started for like emergencies.
15:03 Speaker 04 Yes.
15:04 Stavros Halkias? Then once you get.
15:04 Speaker 04 Yeah, come on.
15:05 Stavros Halkias? Once you get addicted to that little extra money, it's like, we've all. I, in college, I remember my roommate got in a car accident and had Percocet.
15:12 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
15:13 Stavros Halkias? And, you know. I'd say, I'd say, it took him six months, he didn't have any.
15:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:18 Stavros Halkias? I took one. And then I looked around, he didn't notice. And then we're fucking leaving and it's, I'm cleaning out the fucking, I'm cleaning out the like medicine cabinet. I'm like, oh, he won't notice. There was one pill left.
15:30 Speaker 04 Literally.
15:31 Stavros Halkias? And so I know what it's like to steal a little for a.
15:34 Speaker 04 Buddy, my dad.
15:35 Stavros Halkias? And the first time I did it was because I actually got hurt.
15:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:38 Stavros Halkias? I had like tooth surgery and I asked them for pain pills and they wouldn't get it. And it starts for real reasons. And I'm like, wouldn't it be awesome to take three of these? And, and use my meal plan for Chinese food? And that's what I, you know what I mean? It starts good and then it becomes.
15:52 Speaker 04 Literally my dad coming home from hospital, you know, heavy drugs, OxyContin, you know, all the shit. And I'm just like, I'm not even an addict by any means of any kind, but I'm like, okay, it's here.
16:01 Stavros Halkias? Let's take some, yeah.
16:02 Speaker 04 I had a, I had a train ride back from DC. Take a little, don't sleep.
16:05 Stavros Halkias? Sounds awesome.
16:06 Speaker 04 Ride it out. Woo. I was a Molly kid for a long time. So get back to those days for a little bit.
16:11 Stavros Halkias? Yeah. So anyway, I think you gotta tell them personally, I think we, we really did dive into this because it was very meaty, but that's, that's our, that's our.
16:19 Speaker 04 And I'm just so sorry. I'm so sorry. That's going, that's going through your, that's really sorry. Heart goes out for real. That's crazy.
16:24 Stavros Halkias? And your mom is a dumbass for telling you too.
16:27 Speaker 04 Yes, yes.
16:28 Stavros Halkias? That's on her in a major way.
16:30 Speaker 04 What, what, her voice and what the story she told was so great. Like came in so cute. First time listener. Anyway, here's the fucking bombshell.
16:37 Stavros Halkias? Yeah. It's about, you dropped the bomb on us and I respect that. That's some heavy, that's some meaty.
16:41 Speaker 04 That's a good fan right there.
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