#112 - Mandal

Mandal returns to the pod to discuss his gripes with NYC, curbing pig blood desire, the challenges of flying for fat guys, when your family assumes you'll do better at dating than what's realistic, what his college crew was like, and much more. Mandal and Stav help callers including a guy who's sleeping with his professor but still getting bad grades, and a woman whose boyfriend is insecure about her weight loss journey. Make life easier by getting harder and discover your options at https://bluechew.com/ Get the shaving products that always deliver from Harry’s. Get started with a $13 trial set for just $3 at https://www.harrys.com/STAVVY Grow your business right now at Shopify -- no matter what stage you're in. Sign up for a $1/month trial at https://www.shopify.com/stavvy Follow Mandal on social media: https://www.instagram.com/themandalman https://www.tiktok.com/@mansandalman 🎟️ See Stavvy live on the Dreamboat Tour 🛥️💕!!! https://stavvy.biz/ for tickets 🎥 Rent or buy LET'S START A CULT at https://stavvy.biz/movie ‼️ Bonus episodes every week! Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld ☎️ Wanna be part of the show? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice!

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Speaker 01

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• 0:54Stavros Halkias?

  Hoppa, welcome everybody to Stavi's World.

• 0:59Stavros Halkias?

  800, 904-800-Stavi. We've been doing so many of these, you'd think I know by now. Eldis, you should know to have the number on the screen, man. Don't give me the blank Google screen when we start.

• 1:10Speaker 03

  We never have it up.

• 1:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yes, we do. You always go to the, the, the recording, the voice. See, watch, motherfucker.

• 1:17Speaker 03

  Alright, alright.

• 1:17Stavros Halkias?

  Look what's over there.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Alright, alright.

• 1:19Stavros Halkias?

  Yes, apologize.

• 1:21Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 1:24Speaker 03

  Sorry, Mandel.

• 1:24Stavros Halkias?

  Alright, I let it slide even though you were not very, you didn't really mean it. That was not, there's not a hint of sincerity in your voice. Uh, we have our boy Mandel back on the program. What's up, dude?

• 1:36Speaker 04

  Honestly, thank you for having me back, bro.

• 1:39Stavros Halkias?

  Absolutely, looking awesome.

• 1:40Speaker 04

  This was a big boost, man. Shorts, shorts, high socks.

• 1:45Stavros Halkias?

  Yep.

• 1:46Speaker 04

  Huge fans of the program, man. They love the program.

• 1:50Stavros Halkias?

  Absolutely, dude.

• 1:51Speaker 04

  I, we was talking about it before we started, but like, when I had talked about the, that white dude who's getting beat up, man, they really got upset about that.

• 1:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, sure.

• 2:00Speaker 04

  Here's the issue I had with the, with the, with the outrage.

• 2:03Stavros Halkias?

  Get right to it, man.

• 2:04Speaker 04

  It was a bunch of comments like.

• 2:06Stavros Halkias?

  And I love the hat, by the way. You're styling on them right now, dude.

• 2:09Speaker 04

  Hey, winning wrong.

• 2:12Speaker 04

  When you, when you round fashion, you do fashion things.

• 2:16Stavros Halkias?

  That's right, dude. And New York has gotten to you, bro.

• 2:19Speaker 04

  Bro, I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna lie, I hate it here, bro.

• 2:23Stavros Halkias?

  It's not a, it's not a fat friendly city, I'll tell you that. It's not a fat, there's a huge, huge learning curve as a fat man here, for sure.

• 2:32Speaker 04

  And I think that's what it is, two things, that and, and I am, uh, impoverished.

• 2:37Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, tough. I remember being a fat, poor man here, it sucks.

• 2:41Speaker 04

  Bro, okay, no joke. So I, I told a friend of mine, I'm like, hey, I need to get a hoodie.

• 2:47Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 2:48Speaker 04

  And I hate people's answers to questions here, cause I'm like, man, you know I can get a hoodie. You ask where I can get a hoodie in New York? And then they say something stupid like, just go between one twenty first and seventh and go to Flim Flam's fabric shop. And order a number three and it's like, hey man, he don't got big daddy sizes.

• 3:07Stavros Halkias?

  Of course. Where's DXL?

• 3:09Speaker 04

  I'm like, where the Walmart at? They like.

• 3:11Stavros Halkias?

  Oh yeah, that's tough.

• 3:12Speaker 04

  You don't need Wa- I'm like, bro, I'm trying to get a.

• 3:14Stavros Halkias?

  I don't know if there is, where's the closest Walmart?

• 3:16Speaker 04

  Jersey, bro.

• 3:17Stavros Halkias?

  Jersey, yeah, yeah.

• 3:18Speaker 04

  But they like.

• 3:19Stavros Halkias?

  Long Island, yeah.

• 3:20Speaker 04

  City not built, built for big people.

• 3:22Stavros Halkias?

  No, cause there's a DXL, but it's in the middle of, it's in the middle of Manhattan and the prices are outrageous.

• 3:27Speaker 04

  Come on, man.

• 3:28Stavros Halkias?

  That's the richest thing I do is go to DXL and not worry about the tag anymore.

• 3:32Speaker 04

  Bro.

• 3:33Stavros Halkias?

  You could, literally, it is more expensive to be a fat man than to take like, a sexy woman shopping. Like, I went and got ready for the fall, I swear to God, the price tag was outrageous, dude.

• 3:43Speaker 04

  And see, that's the thing.

• 3:44Stavros Halkias?

  I bought like four articles of clothing, we're talking about, close to like, seven hundred dollars or some shit.

• 3:51Speaker 04

  And I think they go in China with it, where like, the XLs and the two XLs are smaller.

• 3:57Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 3:58Speaker 04

  Than the ones back home.

• 3:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:00Speaker 04

  I, I, I.

• 4:01Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, you mean in New York? You think we're dealing with coastal, with coastal sizing?

• 4:05Speaker 04

  The sizes are smaller, bruh.

• 4:08Stavros Halkias?

  Here, if you don't go to DXL, DXL, I'll give them credit, they might overcharge you. It's the same thing in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, as it is in, as it is in New York City. But yes, absolutely, you go to a regular store here, and you get a two X, and you're like, oh wow. I can't believe this, like, little fashion, fashion brand for gay guys has two X's.

• 4:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:28Stavros Halkias?

  And you fucking try if it's one of your tits, maximum.

• 4:32Speaker 04

  Cause what, in their brand, extra large means tall.

• 4:36Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:36Speaker 04

  They're not, they're not, they're making fabric longer, not stretching forward, you know what I'm saying?

• 4:42Stavros Halkias?

  They don't want you there, that is true.

• 4:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, bro.

• 4:43Stavros Halkias?

  Fashion brands don't want fat people in their store, it's a bad look for them.

• 4:46Speaker 04

  Bro, they'll let you, you go to a restaurant, they say, man, it's a little spot. Over social and they mean literally and figuratively, man.

• 4:54Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 4:55Speaker 04

  They using every crevice up in my bruh.

• 4:57Stavros Halkias?

  Restaurant seating is very tough here. You get very narrow shotgun style homes. That's like a bistro. It's tough.

• 5:05Speaker 04

  People be trying to trick you here too. They be like, cause the rent so high and then they be like, but you don't understand, man, the culture. It's like, hey, bro, I picked mine already.

• 5:15Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:16Speaker 04

  I think black people the best.

• 5:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, sure.

• 5:18Speaker 04

  I'm cool.

• 5:19Stavros Halkias?

  It's fun.

• 5:19Speaker 04

  They be like, they be like, man, you gotta go try this is place with Kazakhstan hot dogs. You like, I, that ain't worth a thousand more dollars, bro. That's just sick. And I'mma say this, it's real satanic. My bad, am I talking to you?

• 5:34Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, no, I love this. You're not talking too much.

• 5:36Speaker 04

  It's real satanic. They got them Ubers on them bicycles. That Uber Eats on the bicycle.

• 5:42Stavros Halkias?

  Uber Eats on bicycle, yeah.

• 5:43Speaker 04

  I'm not, I'm not paying for that.

• 5:45Stavros Halkias?

  You want your food coming in a car.

• 5:47Speaker 04

  Don't get all that wind on my food.

• 5:49Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, you want your, you want four doors and, and rolled up windows if you're ordering a taquito or something.

• 5:55Speaker 04

  These fuck trying to cool it off before it get to me. I wanna blow on it myself. Don't pre-cool it off, bruh.

• 6:01Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. So what, even you've, you've had nothing but bad bicycle experiences?

• 6:06Speaker 04

  Bro, I'm just saying, bro, don't cool it off. Don't come in breathing hard.

• 6:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? You don't want them breathing hard either?

• 6:15Speaker 04

  I think they should do it like the Uber shares. Like if you, if I'm, if you know you bringing a bicycle to me, it's gotta be cheap. You know what I'm saying?

• 6:22Stavros Halkias?

  A little cheaper.

• 6:23Speaker 04

  Cause it, it, it done went through rocky road. It jumbled up.

• 6:27Stavros Halkias?

  It has, that's a good point. This, you're with me, cause the wind and the cooling, even though I get it, I do think you're using some country logic here. Cause they do have, they do have, uh, oven bags to keep it warm. Now the bounce though, you're on to something there, cause the, the roads are not meant for these bicycles and I have gotten some jumbled food, but you know.

• 6:47Speaker 04

  The spaghetti gonna get mixed in before you get to you.

• 6:50Stavros Halkias?

  Would you, would you, would you spend extra to get to ensure it's delivered by car?

• 6:54Speaker 04

  And see, that's the trick of the devil, what you just said. It needs to be cheaper to be on the bike. Not more, not, not I pay more for the car.

• 7:02Stavros Halkias?

  You're right, you're right.

• 7:03Speaker 04

  Everywhere else they in the car.

• 7:05Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right, right, right.

• 7:06Speaker 04

  You get what I'm saying?

• 7:07Stavros Halkias?

  Sure.

• 7:08Speaker 04

  So if you gonna come in on the bike, I need to be like, they got that discount, just like if I get in the car, if I do the Uber share.

• 7:14Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure, sure, sure.

• 7:15Speaker 04

  That's what I think.

• 7:16Stavros Halkias?

  Hey, man, that's interesting. I would say the expediency of the bike. I'll take a jumbled, I'll take a jumbled thing, cause it gets there faster, the traffic, all this other stuff, yeah. Yeah, you can, you can zoom through the streets, in the bike, you know, but I get it.

• 7:31Speaker 04

  That's the thing too, like, I don't know how to get around out here either, man.

• 7:35Stavros Halkias?

  It's brutal.

• 7:36Speaker 04

  That train stuff, that's for that.

• 7:39Stavros Halkias?

  I've gotten lost.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  That's for the cerebral mind.

• 7:43Speaker 04

  You get what I'm saying?

• 7:44Stavros Halkias?

  Sure.

• 7:45Speaker 04

  And then that Uber so expensive, man.

• 7:47Stavros Halkias?

  It's a lot of walking, it's a lot of long train rides when you first get here.

• 7:51Speaker 04

  They say the Uber, you go on Uber, it say three miles. And he talking about forty dollars, man, I'm like, bro, you tricking me, bruh.

• 8:00Stavros Halkias?

  Well, what are you gonna do? He's got you by the balls, you're not walking, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:04Speaker 04

  I been like everywhere.

• 8:05Stavros Halkias?

  What's your ideal location? You're from Atlanta, right?

• 8:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:10Stavros Halkias?

  You wanna stay in Atlanta?

• 8:11Speaker 04

  No, I'm about to move.

• 8:11Stavros Halkias?

  You are gonna move?

• 8:12Speaker 04

  I'm about to move right now, I'm moving in March.

• 8:14Stavros Halkias?

  You moving, I'm gonna guess LA.

• 8:15Speaker 04

  I'm going to Los Angeles, man.

• 8:17Stavros Halkias?

  Cars, cars, more space.

• 8:20Speaker 04

  Transition.

• 8:20Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

• 8:22Speaker 04

  I get into the vehicle, I go to the place, bruh, you know what I'm saying?

• 8:25Stavros Halkias?

  You can handle that, your mind can handle that.

• 8:28Speaker 04

  I can wrap my mind around that. I can't wrap my mind around ceiling break dancing and.

• 8:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 8:35Speaker 04

  I ain't gonna lie, we was in a spot yesterday and Peter Guns was in there rapping his version of Uptown of a live band, and I said, this hard.

• 8:44Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, there you go, there's a little something for you.

• 8:46Speaker 04

  That was hard. I mean, it's, I ain't gonna lie, it's cool stuff out here, bro. I'm just, I'm just not equipped with the brain power for.

• 8:56Stavros Halkias?

  You think it's the brain power? I think it's more a physical problem than a mental one.

• 9:00Speaker 04

  It might be that, bro.

• 9:02Stavros Halkias?

  I do think, I do think, uh, if you don't love it, being fat as shit here, atrocious, atrocious. And I'm, I've gotten fatter, and I still was pretty fat when I moved, I moved here nine years ago. I was probably fifty pounds. pounds lighter.

• 9:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:19Stavros Halkias?

  Still pretty fat, but to be to be as fat as I am now, no disrespect.

• 9:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:24Stavros Halkias?

  And be poor, no disrespect. Have to move here now, I'd probably kill myself. Yeah, I'd probably kill myself.

• 9:31Speaker 04

  But here's the thing, cuz yeah, cuz you got a disposable income, but you know what I'm about to do, man?

• 9:35Stavros Halkias?

  Hit me with it.

• 9:36Speaker 04

  I'm about to, I'm about to let them folk cut me open, pour that old zimpy right in me.

• 9:40Stavros Halkias?

  You want it directly in, you wanna get marinated like a skirt steak.

• 9:43Speaker 04

  Boy, wet.

• 9:44Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 9:45Speaker 04

  I'm putting, I'm mixing it in the water like Crystal Light. Shake it up.

• 9:51Stavros Halkias?

  You're ready to go once you move to LA?

• 9:53Speaker 04

  Man, I'm about to, I give me two loads of.

• 9:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 9:56Speaker 04

  I wasn't in the mansion, my junk can load.

• 9:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  I come in with that cheetah print on. That's my first step. I can slip on y'all, cheetah print.

• 10:06Stavros Halkias?

  Print head to toe?

• 10:09Stavros Halkias?

  Love that.

• 10:09Speaker 04

  They gonna like, boy, yeah.

• 10:10Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 10:11Speaker 04

  He, he, you know what I'm saying, he done, you know what I'm saying?

• 10:13Stavros Halkias?

  And you wouldn't be scared that you go from Atlanta to LA, get skinny, put cheetah print? You wouldn't be scared of getting the gay Illuminati allegations back home?

• 10:24Speaker 04

  Okay, you know.

• 10:25Stavros Halkias?

  Cuz you would get hit with that immediately.

• 10:26Speaker 04

  Okay, you know something so funny about that, bro?

• 10:29Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 10:30Speaker 04

  That has been like, so, you know, like, this year has been the first year I probably had like a little visibility.

• 10:37Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, shit started going pretty good.

• 10:39Speaker 04

  Like comics always knew me, but like.

• 10:41Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  And so like, it was last Christmas, bro, real conversation.

• 10:47Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm.

• 10:48Speaker 04

  From like, unironic though.

• 10:49Stavros Halkias?

  And with your family at Christmas.

• 10:50Speaker 04

  From like a cousin.

• 10:51Stavros Halkias?

  A good Christmas dinner, yeah.

• 10:52Speaker 04

  Being like, hey, man, like, remember where you came from, like, don't let them people change your morals.

• 11:00Speaker 04

  Don't let them people change your morals, like, I understand you wanna get money and, and, and, and, and do this and that. But remember like, I remember like. I don't know who you is. And I just think that's just a funny idea.

• 11:15Stavros Halkias?

  And he's purely talking about don't become gay in Hollywood.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  Absolutely. Absolutely he is. But I be trying to figure out how they think that work like nigga like, hey man, we got a new side character on ABC. But first, a little kiss.

• 11:32Stavros Halkias?

  Give me a smooch, come over and give the producers a kiss. And also like, like especially when you're trying to become a funny fat guy, it's like, look, they're not trying to fuck us.

• 11:44Speaker 04

  They're not trying to get me.

• 11:45Stavros Halkias?

  They're not trying to fuck us, man. No one's sexing in the like fat neighbor on a sitcom. Maybe the son, maybe the like, the high school quarterback's son on that sitcom might have to get sexed in. But it's not gonna be the fat funny guy.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't think so, bro. I, I don't think that nobody gonna be, gonna, gonna be like, hey man, you know what you got to do.

• 12:08Stavros Halkias?

  Like, I would love to know the Diddy, when the Diddy, when the, the equivalent of the Diddy flight logs come out. How many fat rappers he tried to fuck? Did he fuck T. Grizzly? I don't think so. I don't think he tried to fuck him. You know what I mean?

• 12:23Speaker 04

  And also, I don't think, I, I, I can't see Biggie going for that.

• 12:26Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, well, that's why he killed him, right? That's why, I mean, I do think Diddy's clear as a supervillain. I do think that's so clear now.

• 12:35Speaker 04

  I will say this though, you know, and I'mma sound crazy.

• 12:39Stavros Halkias?

  Please, this is what this, this is how.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  I do think that if you look at all the details, some of the conspiracies is right.

• 12:46Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 12:47Speaker 04

  But here's the thing.

• 12:48Stavros Halkias?

  Well, yeah, that like, rich people doing weird fucked up shit is absolutely right. Cause what else are they gonna do?

• 12:53Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying.

• 12:53Stavros Halkias?

  What else do they have to do? They're either gonna be the kind, like Elon Musk nerds who want to be famous, right? But the one, and the ones who want to stay in silence, they either have to have that mental illness, which all rich people have to some degree, which is like, I'll destroy the whole world if this number on a computer screen goes up, right? Some of them just love money in a fucked up way that should be seen as a, as a societal ill. Should see, like, should be seen as something you should go to prison for. But then the ones that just get really rich and then have free time and they were, some of them become, were nerds to get rich. And then want to fuck, don't understand how it happens. And then, I don't know, some of them want to be control freaks and you mix all that shit up and you get weird sex cults.

• 13:36Speaker 04

  Absolutely. Cause I, cause when I first got to LA. Um, I remember like, you know, they had all the conspiracies. And then you get there and you like, oh yeah, they is, they is in this party being gay. But, but then, but then you realize like, that's where it ends.

• 13:56Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, right, right. You just happened to be invited to a gay guy's party for the first time in your life.

• 14:02Speaker 04

  But that's what it is, it's like, oh, it's not like, it's not like, they're not drinking blood and stuff, or it's like, it's not like, oh, you got to be gay, but it's like, no, these cats is gay.

• 14:12Stavros Halkias?

  Just happen to be gay.

• 14:13Speaker 04

  And, and, and that's a thing that they do.

• 14:15Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:16Speaker 04

  And more power.

• 14:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:18Speaker 04

  But it's not like a, it's not like bigger than that.

• 14:21Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:22Speaker 04

  But then you see some of these characters and you're like, no, no, no, they was demonic.

• 14:27Stavros Halkias?

  Something's up here, absolutely. I also think there's, it's a way of control. Like, I do think there's, whoever's actually pulling strings knows to get rich dorks who never got pussy in their life. Fly them out to a fucking, fly them out to Epstein's Island, videotape them being fucking perverts. And then they have to do whatever the fuck the CIA tells them. You know what I mean? Like, that's truly what I believe. Like, I really think a lot of this freaky shit. And then some of it is just a, like, cause once you have all that monetary power, all that's left is to exploit human beings to feel, if you're that kind of person, like Diddy probably was. Like, it feels, he feels good knowing somebody else, he's breaking somebody else to do his bidding.

• 15:12Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? Like, that's old school evil shit.

• 15:15Speaker 04

  I think that people don't, I think in general, bro, you gotta curb the, the hunger for more. In general.

• 15:24Stavros Halkias?

  A hundred percent.

• 15:24Speaker 04

  Like, if you wanna be a decent person, I think humans go always want more, like, you go always want more money, more food, more access. And so I think you gotta get to a point where you try to figure out how to make your brain be like, this is enough. Cause if it don't, eventually you go turn.

• 15:41Stavros Halkias?

  You're at the parties.

• 15:42Speaker 04

  You, you go go.

• 15:42Stavros Halkias?

  You've got, you're being lit by a condolabre, getting your dick sucked by.

• 15:46Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying?

• 15:47Stavros Halkias?

  So, somebody that doesn't wanna be there. You're wearing a fucking Phantom of the Opera mask.

• 15:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:52Stavros Halkias?

  You're drinking, maybe it's, maybe it's pig's blood, it mixed with a little, you know, cabaret.

• 15:58Speaker 04

  It start there.

• 15:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:00Speaker 04

  First, first you say, oh, it's a pig, we eat pig. You use like little limes like that. We eat peas or whatever wrong with drinking blood.

• 16:09Stavros Halkias?

  They put it in some Vietnamese soup as a thickening agent. What's wrong with mixing it with red wine and pouring it over a fucking nine, an eighteen year old on the day he turned eighteen?

• 16:18Speaker 04

  They do that, then it, then it go, then it, it slowly escalates. And I'm like, man, nobody care about this dog.

• 16:23Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 16:24Speaker 04

  They're gonna put this dog down. I'm like, well, I'm taking a sip, bud. Then next thing, then right after that is Candace. Right after that is Candace.

• 16:34Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 16:35Speaker 04

  And you gotta stop it, you gotta stop it when you get that pig blood desire.

• 16:39Stavros Halkias?

  Absolutely. You don't want to, you do not want to subject yourself to pig blood thirsts.

• 16:45Speaker 04

  Nah, man, that's how you get messed up, man.

• 16:48Speaker 05

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• 18:54Stavros Halkias?

  So you have older cousins. What's the like, you just have a big ass family or?

• 18:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, so my, my, my grandmama is one of 10.

• 19:01Stavros Halkias?

  Wow.

• 19:02Speaker 04

  So like, it's just varying ages on cousins. So like, but it's with my mama only child, I'm only child. But like, all her siblings have like, various amount of kids.

• 19:13Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 19:13Speaker 04

  So it's just a bunch of folks. So I might have cousins who like, like my grandma 70 something, so I might have cousins who like 60.

• 19:20Stavros Halkias?

  Sure.

• 19:20Speaker 04

  Or, and cousins that are like literally babies.

• 19:22Stavros Halkias?

  Wow, wow, wow. That's fucking nuts. Where, so was it, we're talking big ass family reunions?

• 19:28Speaker 04

  Totally. Yeah. I mean, but here's the thing, a lot of cousins older, man, so it's, it's kind of unfortunate, some of them not here no more, but. Like we, like, I'm a family from La Grange, Georgia, which is like an hour outside of like, an hour, 30 maybe outside of Atlanta. So like, my family's like real country.

• 19:43Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure.

• 19:44Speaker 04

  And like, real country and a lot of them are really tall and handsome dudes, man. Yeah, it really, yeah, I really, I really didn't, didn't come out like the rest of them, man.

• 19:56Stavros Halkias?

  So you stick out at the family reunion?

• 19:57Speaker 04

  I'm the family like, I'm, I was always like the, you know, like the weird cousin.

• 20:02Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, that's you.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm that guy. Yeah, I'm like the, I got the cape on, you know what I'm saying?

• 20:08Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, you, you were into anime or no?

• 20:11Speaker 04

  Here's the thing, I was, I, I was, I was, but not enough to get put, put down with the gang.

• 20:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in, you're in no man's land.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm in no man's land.

• 20:21Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, you were too much of a loser for everybody else, but not enough of an anime guy for the anime nerds.

• 20:26Speaker 04

  Yes, I would, I had the lame callers, but I ain't do enough for the studying.

• 20:31Speaker 04

  You feel what I'm saying? I ain't do the, I ain't do all, enough of reading. So, I mean, but I'm a fan, but I ain't.

• 20:35Stavros Halkias?

  But your hot cousins from La Grange, they wanted nothing to do with you due to your Yu Yu Hakusho viewing.

• 20:41Speaker 04

  Bro, my cousin, my, so, okay, I got, this is something interesting. So, my cousin is this football player named Buster Owens.

• 20:49Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, wow, okay, cool.

• 20:50Speaker 04

  He played with Hans Ward.

• 20:51Stavros Halkias?

  That's awesome.

• 20:51Speaker 04

  NFL, right?

• 20:52Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:53Speaker 04

  So, he went to UGA. Him and Hans Ward graduated together and he was in the NFL for a while. So, then, when I told my fam, I was the second person go to UGA. And this cat is like, maybe, this cat.

• 21:05Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, he must be.

• 21:06Speaker 04

  He like twenty years old.

• 21:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 04

  So, my family, when I was going to UGA, they was like, oh, boy, you bout to be partying. And I'm like, no, we got different experiences.

• 21:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 21:18Speaker 04

  Cause he went as a number one recruit for UGA. And I'm just there for marketing, you know what I mean? Like, they're like, hey, man. They like, they like, hey, will you, will you, will you protect? Wait, be safe. And I'm like, no, man, nobody's.

• 21:33Stavros Halkias?

  Come on, guys. I appreciate it.

• 21:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 21:36Stavros Halkias?

  I appreciate you pretending to give me this talk.

• 21:39Speaker 04

  But here's the thing, I tried to play like, I tried to play, you know, I don't wanna be embarrassed. So, I tried to play cool, so I'm like, I'm like, you know I'ma do what I need to do, sir.

• 21:50Speaker 04

  Hey, y'all know y'all ain't ready no fool.

• 21:53Stavros Halkias?

  Of course, dude.

• 21:54Speaker 04

  Nothing good of it.

• 21:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 04

  Nothing, nothing about to happen, bro.

• 21:57Stavros Halkias?

  How many times I did the same thing? Like, I would go to my cousins. I would go to Greece and my cousins, you know, they were getting pussy when they were like eleven years old.

• 22:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:05Stavros Halkias?

  And I'm just like, I had to just pretend I fucked for like my whole vacation, not to feel like a loser. Yeah, it's, it's brutal when you're just the fucking, the fat, the fat like scared person in the family.

• 22:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:17Stavros Halkias?

  They're all like, you know what I mean? It's like, some of that is an anxiety, like I, you know, my cousin doesn't, isn't anxious about anything. He just fucking lives, it's a beautiful life.

• 22:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:27Stavros Halkias?

  That they live, especially in Greece, it's like. Economy sucks, everything like, like he's of the generation where everything suck dick, so all you could do was have a good ass time.

• 22:36Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 22:37Stavros Halkias?

  And I envy that, cuz I just always was a worrier, I was always like anxious and shit like that.

• 22:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, it was bad, man, cuz a lot of my family, a lot of, they, they like either, they taught either athletics, athletic dudes, or they tough individuals.

• 22:52Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 22:53Speaker 04

  And I'm neither one of those.

• 22:54Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 22:55Speaker 04

  So I was just an all around unenjoyable person to them.

• 22:58Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying?

• 22:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 23:00Speaker 04

  It just not.

• 23:01Stavros Halkias?

  They don't get riffing. Those guys don't understand riffing is a talent. They're like, you either have to be fucking all, like cool or dangerous or both.

• 23:11Speaker 04

  Cuz you know my, I'm, I'm a, my, my sister's a little alternative, bruh, so like, they'll come to shows and they'll be like, you did your thing. Never, never I enjoy it.

• 23:24Speaker 04

  Never, never, they were like, the, the audience laughed at the,

• 23:27Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 23:28Speaker 04

  At, at the words you say.

• 23:29Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

• 23:31Speaker 04

  So like, yeah.

• 23:32Stavros Halkias?

  That is so funny.

• 23:33Speaker 04

  Like, bro, I, I did, when we did, uh, I did the John Mulaney thing.

• 23:39Stavros Halkias?

  You did Warm Up For The Mulaney Show, yeah, yeah.

• 23:41Speaker 04

  And then I did the ball with him.

• 23:42Stavros Halkias?

  That's where we met.

• 23:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, we met on the street show.

• 23:45Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 23:46Speaker 04

  And I did the ball with him, nothing. They like, okay, yeah, cool, man, hey, keep going.

• 23:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 23:52Speaker 04

  I said one line in a Country Wayne movie.

• 23:57Speaker 04

  They like, man, I'm glad you kept pushing, man.

• 24:01Stavros Halkias?

  They're like, wow, Michael Blackson reposted you on his story, bro. It's starting to happen.

• 24:09Speaker 04

  I, I, I went, that one line, that one line in that Country Wayne movie, man, that Christmas was turned. It was depth. It was depth everywhere, and they're like, man, hey, hey, I'm proud of you stuck to it, man. You know what I'm saying?

• 24:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yes, of course, dude, of course. They don't get, no, no, no, of course. I mean, it's the same thing with like my family, it's like they just kinda knew shit was going pretty goo- like they got it cuz I paid for shit for them.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:40Stavros Halkias?

  But they didn't know what was, and then I think it's like getting on a TV show or like doing a movie, even though I lo- I've made so much more money podcasting, I lost money doing the movie cuz I was just not on the road.

• 24:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:53Stavros Halkias?

  They got that, they're like, whoa, and it's like, that's cool, I love it, I'm happy to do it, but it's like, people don't understand what actually matters, but that's, that's almost nicer.

• 25:01Speaker 04

  That's not their fault, though.

• 25:02Stavros Halkias?

  It's all, like, I also, it's like, that's what family should be.

• 25:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:05Stavros Halkias?

  You don't want your family plugged into your shit.

• 25:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, you don't.

• 25:08Stavros Halkias?

  You wanna feel like a little bit of an outcast, you don't want your family knowing like, you know, what's popping in every, you want them to be them, you want them to actually be themselves.

• 25:17Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 25:18Stavros Halkias?

  And not like weirdly envelop, like, there's nothing weirder than like kids whose fucking parents push them to like show business shit. Your parents, if you're an artist, should not be supportive.

• 25:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:28Stavros Halkias?

  That's how I feel, legitimately, that's how I feel.

• 25:30Speaker 04

  No, I agree. My mom was like, my mom was supportive in the sense of like, you know, if I'm in a jam, she might help me financially and stuff like that.

• 25:39Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:40Speaker 04

  But she was always, hey, I think it's okay to have a day job.

• 25:43Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 25:44Speaker 04

  Like, she was always like, hey, this is cool, I'm not mad at you for doing this.

• 25:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  But you need to figure something else out on the side, and then that kinda relaxes on side, did start getting some real stuff, bro.

• 25:56Stavros Halkias?

  Well, did they have any, like, ask, like, what did your parents want for you?

• 26:00Speaker 04

  I was supposed to be a lawyer, bro, so what happened was, I was smart in high school.

• 26:04Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:04Speaker 04

  I was smart in high school, but then, but then, um, you know, I went to college and there wasn't like, uh, fear that I was gonna get a whooping.

• 26:13Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 26:14Speaker 04

  So then, so then, my grades fell apart.

• 26:18Stavros Halkias?

  So, yeah, yeah. Pure violence kept you in check.

• 26:23Speaker 04

  So my grades fell apart. I was supposed to go, I was like, I had some law scholarship or something. And I was working like business job, but I just, I, I, I found I had like ADHD and stuff.

• 26:34Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure.

• 26:36Speaker 04

  So I was just, I was just all bad at all of that stuff.

• 26:39Stavros Halkias?

  What was, when you get to college, what's the like, cause I remember being like, oh, I, I felt like the, I mean, I got kicked off campus. I got caught smoking weed in the dorms immediately. So that fucking sucked for a year, but I do remember getting there that first, those first few months of being like, I don't have to do shit. I can get fucked up. I can eat on lip, the dining hall. You swipe in, you eat as much. I got fat as fuck. The freshman fifteen, I literally gained like eighty pounds.

• 27:06Speaker 04

  Bro, at, at UGA, they had a twenty-four hour dining hall.

• 27:08Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, man, that's a fucking problem, dude.

• 27:11Speaker 04

  I'm in there posted up, man. I'm in there posted up.

• 27:15Stavros Halkias?

  Lunch changed to dinner.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  And I'm gonna say this, man, shout out to India, man, cause that was the first time I had that sriracha.

• 27:24Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, you, you giving India credit for sriracha?

• 27:28Speaker 04

  Where's from?

• 27:29Stavros Halkias?

  I believe that's Vietnamese.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  Oh dang.

• 27:31Stavros Halkias?

  Creation, yeah.

• 27:33Speaker 04

  All the Indian homies was on the sriracha.

• 27:37Speaker 04

  They was rocking with the sriracha, all the Indian homies, man. And, bro, I was, uh, that was my first time having that. And they was putting that on the omelets. I said, boy, y'all went crazy.

• 27:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:49Speaker 04

  I'm in there, that's the first time I got, I started putting garlic on stuff on purpose.

• 27:54Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it sounds like you were having more of a fat awakening than an educational awakening. Yes, yes, yes.

• 28:00Speaker 04

  Buffalo Philly cheese? Cause people who was like seniors and stuff, they in there.

• 28:06Stavros Halkias?

  Of course.

• 28:06Speaker 04

  They asking the dining hall people to remix stuff.

• 28:09Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right, right, right.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  So I'm in there doing whatever I need to do, man.

• 28:13Stavros Halkias?

  Of course.

• 28:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was great, man.

• 28:14Stavros Halkias?

  I think as a fat, they, they literally are more willing to give a fat person what they want in a dining hall situation. That's the one place you get fat phobia is flipped. And we command the general respect.

• 28:27Speaker 04

  Because they, cause they, they know you going through a lot.

• 28:31Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 28:31Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying?

• 28:32Stavros Halkias?

  Anybody, yes.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  You on that top bunker that, get on that top bunker that twin bed in that dorm. You climbing up that thing.

• 28:39Stavros Halkias?

  You're not getting pussy, they know it. They know this is your one joy of the whole day.

• 28:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless you like the smartest cat in the world.

• 28:49Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 28:49Speaker 04

  And you about to make a million dollars, they're like, hey, man, just give him another burger.

• 28:53Stavros Halkias?

  Come on, who gives a fuck?

• 28:54Speaker 04

  Have some compassion.

• 28:56Stavros Halkias?

  Let, yes, just do it, make the burger with grilled cheese instead of bu- make the buns to grilled cheese sandwiches. He needs this. He's, look at him, look how much fatter he is than the last month he was here. They have the before and now, they track you.

• 29:10Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 29:10Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 29:11Speaker 04

  But see, I'd rather be this guy, I'd rather be the fat guy than the, than the, uh, than the, I'ma pull out the gun and ruin everybody's life. You know what I'm saying?

• 29:19Stavros Halkias?

  I think that's very fair to say.

• 29:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, cause some people, that's how they deal with it. They say, she wanna give me one, no hug? Ciao! You're like, that's a big step, bro. If you thought you was gonna have no hug before.

• 29:33Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 29:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, man, I'm sorry.

• 29:35Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, I thought that was me, but it's all good.

• 29:37Speaker 04

  But, but also, also, I will say this, though. I do, I finally hit the point where I did think, I have to admit that we might be, I might be getting too much privileges as a fat person.

• 29:49Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, you think so?

• 29:51Speaker 04

  I finally hit the point.

• 29:52Stavros Halkias?

  Wow, alright, alright, listen, I'll hear you out, you're on thin ice. But I'll hear you out. Let me, what do you think?

• 29:57Speaker 04

  I like to fly Southwest, also known as the middle class of the sky.

• 30:00Stavros Halkias?

  Of course, of course, of course.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  Just like a real American, not too cheap, not too poor, right where we all need to be, just enough.

• 30:07Stavros Halkias?

  I agree with you, I, I wish you could pick your seat, I don't like, I don't like the.

• 30:11Speaker 04

  I'm about to blow your mind, bro.

• 30:13Stavros Halkias?

  Don't give it to me.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  So, m- most recently had this new change, bro, so like, I'm about to gun a plane and I'm like in the back, I'm like C, C, I'm like group C.

• 30:22Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 30:23Speaker 04

  And you know, when you check in, like you get the last.

• 30:26Stavros Halkias?

  Of course, there's nothing more devastating than remembering you never checked in to your Southwest flight. And it's an hour before.

• 30:34Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 30:35Stavros Halkias?

  And you're like, fuck, I, you, you've spoiled, you've been spoiled, you've been flying Delta the last three. So you forgot about, you didn't set that alarm to, you know what I mean? There's nothing worse than seeing a, a C, a, once you see the C, and then you see a three or a four, whoo.

• 30:51Speaker 04

  It's over with.

• 30:52Stavros Halkias?

  You're like, alright, well, I'm gonna have the worst four hours of my life.

• 30:55Speaker 04

  You gonna be in the middle.

• 30:56Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 30:56Speaker 04

  So the lady walk up to me and she's like, ay, you know this almost a full flight, right? And I said, and I said, yeah, she said, let me see your ticket? And she said, it says C. Forty-seven. And she said, oh, Lord.

• 31:13Speaker 04

  And then she said, you know, you could go down to the desk. You go down to the desk. You like, ay, I'm fat. They'll give you a second seat.

• 31:23Stavros Halkias?

  Wow.

• 31:24Speaker 04

  For free.

• 31:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, holy shit.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  So you go in, you go to the desk, they give you another ticket.

• 31:30Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 31:30Speaker 04

  And you put that ticket over the middle seat.

• 31:32Stavros Halkias?

  Love that.

• 31:33Speaker 04

  For free, bro, and that's just off of just being fat.

• 31:35Stavros Halkias?

  The way they do, you know how they have the little things where they like, put your luggage here, will your overhead fit? They have a fucking, they have a hole, it's like, can you squeeze through here? No, alright, here's the second seat.

• 31:49Speaker 04

  But look, that was, but you brought in something though.

• 31:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 31:52Speaker 04

  How do they dictate if you fat enough?

• 31:54Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 31:54Speaker 04

  Because she looked at me and said, I mean, obviously, I'm over the hill, right?

• 31:58Stavros Halkias?

  Still, that's, it is tough to pass the eye test immediately.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:01Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? You want her to hem and haul a little bit. You want her to like, look at you and be like, but she said, oh, Lord.

• 32:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like, for the betterment of this plane. We need to get you an extra seat.

• 32:14Stavros Halkias?

  This isn't about you, sir.

• 32:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:16Stavros Halkias?

  This is so we can avoid, people are gonna see, people are gonna desperately try and not sit next to you. There's gonna be a jam as they try and go back up.

• 32:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:23Stavros Halkias?

  They've passed middle seats thinking, how many times has that happened? Eldes, you can hear his laughter, where it's like, we're all in the range of, if you're on Southwest, and there's a seat next to you, people are gonna avoid it at all costs.

• 32:35Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 32:36Stavros Halkias?

  People are gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna, when they walk to the back and they see you in an aisle, a middle seat, and another guy, they're like, why didn't I sit next to that old Asian woman? Who, who, the hubris I had, thinking I would get a window or an aisle. And now I'm, and now my punishment is sitting next to this fat guy.

• 32:53Speaker 04

  Well, here's the thing, bro, like, you know, the, the gut functions almost like a liquid as it takes the form of whatever it's in.

• 33:01Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  So whenever I try to get that middle seat covered, I just spread the gut over.

• 33:05Stavros Halkias?

  Over both handrails, over both hands, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:09Speaker 04

  I kinda build like an irrigation system over the rail. And let it drip down like a waterfall. And once you do that, man.

• 33:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 33:18Speaker 04

  A cat would rather stand than sit next to it, brother. But now they got that middle seat thing, but my thing I'm trying to figure out is let's say if you were, you were just like a chubby, let's say if you like a Kenan Thompson. It's still uncomfortable for somebody to be in the middle.

• 33:31Stavros Halkias?

  Sure.

• 33:31Speaker 04

  But you didn't make the, the, uh.

• 33:33Stavros Halkias?

  You have now pushed the burden of being obese to the just kind of fat.

• 33:38Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying.

• 33:38Stavros Halkias?

  That's basically what's happened.

• 33:40Speaker 04

  They're like, hey, man, you not a hashtag big bubba, man. You gotta get the bubba seat, bro. And so I could see somebody having a, a rational beef with me being able to get a free seat.

• 33:52Stavros Halkias?

  Sure. I agree with you. I will say though, it is the most logic, it's like, look, when you're on a road trip, it's like, we grew up with a friend of ours who was mad, he was, he was the, he grew up with nothing but fat friends. He never once in his life got shotgun on a road, on a long trip. And it's like, buddy, come on, like, maybe if we were high and going to Wendy's, we'd throw him a bone and give him shotgun. But it's like, everyone is fat as fuck. It makes no sense, sorry, you're in the middle your whole life. And he hated it, but it's like, this is for the good of the community.

• 34:26Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 34:26Stavros Halkias?

  And you're, and you are sacrificing and we understand that, but what, we're gonna put three fat fuckers jammed back here? No, it's gonna be you and two fat guys.

• 34:36Speaker 04

  Whenever we get like an Uber Black somewhere, I know I'm up there with the driver.

• 34:41Stavros Halkias?

  You know, you're, you know, you're making small talk the whole time.

• 34:44Speaker 04

  How you doing, man? What, what, what cut you from? I was gonna ask you, where, where you from?

• 34:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, you know, you're mood take, you're picking up his little satchel and putting it to the back.

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• 35:47Stavros Halkias?

  What was the crew like in college? You have a little, who were your friends? Who were you hanging out with?

• 35:52Speaker 04

  I mean, bro, I honestly, you know, I feel like we kinda really just secluded ourselves. Like, honestly, all the black people just hung out with each other.

• 35:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, but within that, who were the like? You had to have like a crew of like four main guys, you know what I mean?

• 36:05Speaker 04

  Well, two, two of my homeboys who I was, I went to college, two of my best friends in college. One of them, I went to elementary school and middle school and high school with.

• 36:15Stavros Halkias?

  That's me and him, we were into kindergarten together.

• 36:16Speaker 04

  Really?

• 36:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 36:18Speaker 04

  I got one homeboy, I know it's his second grade, so I was hanging with him a lot. And then my other homeboy from middle school and then, I mean, a lot of my, we was, you know, it's weird, so the campus, the UGA admitted too, too many people.

• 36:32Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, wow.

• 36:33Speaker 04

  So me and a lot of my friends, we stayed on off, on the family housing. Which is for-

• 36:40Stavros Halkias?

  With like professors and shit?

• 36:42Speaker 04

  It's for students who got kids.

• 36:46Speaker 04

  So our neighborhood, it's like, almost like a tiny neighborhood. Where it's a bunch of freshmen and then there's a bunch of people with like babies. Like, it'd be like some family from another country and a dude in a doctoral program or like a teen mom or something.

• 37:02Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 37:03Speaker 04

  And it was all like in this little neighborhood.

• 37:04Stavros Halkias?

  And you guys playing Super Smash Brothers?

• 37:07Speaker 04

  Bro, we would get in so much, I'm talking about just the music being an inch too loud.

• 37:12Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, my god.

• 37:13Speaker 04

  They was calling the, the UGA people on us. "Dinner is a lot!" And we like, bro, it's like, dinner's a lot, but it's like, oh, this cat got a kid, bro.

• 37:21Stavros Halkias?

  He's got a toddler.

• 37:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 37:23Stavros Halkias?

  That's brutal.

• 37:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, bruh, we was over there, so.

• 37:25Stavros Halkias?

  Now, do you think some algorithm ran the numbers of who were the biggest lames? Who are we putting into family housing?

• 37:33Speaker 04

  But you know something though? My friends was cool.

• 37:35Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, your friends were cool?

• 37:35Speaker 04

  I've always, it's where I've always been like the lame amongst cool.

• 37:41Stavros Halkias?

  Jester mode. You were always on jester mode.

• 37:46Speaker 04

  You just did a math that I did not like.

• 37:51Stavros Halkias?

  Sorry, man.

• 37:52Speaker 04

  I just thought they like saw something within me.

• 37:56Speaker 04

  They're like, oh, no, no, no, no, we see you for who you is. And you're like, no, no, no, you're the clown.

• 38:02Stavros Halkias?

  Hey, brother. We've all been there. Nothing wrong. That's how you punch your ticket a lot of places.

• 38:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 38:08Stavros Halkias?

  You gotta know what you got, man.

• 38:09Speaker 04

  For sure, for sure.

• 38:10Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. Oh, so they were cool.

• 38:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. But you know, you know, I used to pretend to be a leader, man. I, I mean, like, in college. Like, I was my school, uh, I was my high school student body president.

• 38:21Stavros Halkias?

  Me too. Or maybe I was vice president or something.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  I was student body president and I was, uh, I had started like my school's newspaper.

• 38:30Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, nice.

• 38:30Speaker 04

  And then I had, I had let, I was like, I had this president, I had this organization at UGA that like brought more black dudes to the school.

• 38:39Stavros Halkias?

  Nice.

• 38:39Speaker 04

  It was like, uh, like a leadership.

• 38:41Stavros Halkias?

  Were they hurting for that at UGA?

• 38:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:43Stavros Halkias?

  Really?

• 38:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was like.

• 38:44Stavros Halkias?

  Where's UGA's campus?

• 38:46Speaker 04

  Athens, Georgia.

• 38:47Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, okay. For some reason.

• 38:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:48Stavros Halkias?

  What's the one in Atlanta?

• 38:50Speaker 04

  That's.

• 38:50Stavros Halkias?

  Georgia Tech?

• 38:51Speaker 04

  That's Georgia Tech and Georgia State.

• 38:52Stavros Halkias?

  Got you. Okay, never mind.

• 38:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it was like point six percent was black dudes.

• 38:58Stavros Halkias?

  Really?

• 38:59Speaker 04

  Most of the black.

• 38:59Stavros Halkias?

  At UGA? Get the fuck, I would have never thought that.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  It was like, most of the, uh, most of it was black women and then like only like a handful of dudes.

• 39:07Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  And so I was like a part of the program to bring more people there. And let me tell you something, man. Every organization I've ever been in said I was the worst president.

• 39:17Speaker 04

  I was so bad, bro. My school, my school.

• 39:20Stavros Halkias?

  You would you guys?

• 39:21Speaker 04

  I was the worst president they ever had, bro.

• 39:23Stavros Halkias?

  This is coming back to me. I won president too as, cause I ran a joke campaign and everybody loved it.

• 39:28Speaker 04

  I did the same thing.

• 39:29Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 39:30Speaker 04

  We sleep was the first Trump.

• 39:32Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I remember, I remember when I got elected, all my friends were laughing. They're like, we're not gonna have prom this year. They were like, we're fucked. They're like, why did we? Yeah, we really did. It was Trump style election running.

• 39:46Speaker 04

  Bro, cause I had videos.

• 39:48Stavros Halkias?

  I'd just be like a really smart girl in glasses.

• 39:50Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 39:51Stavros Halkias?

  Who was just polite and knew what she was doing and wanted this for her college resume.

• 39:55Speaker 04

  Absolutely. It was like, I had like, we had like videos, we had like t-shirts. And here's the thing, I'm in the speech, you know, I'm giving it up. I'm, man, we gonna get new fitting machines.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  Man, uh, man, bring back field trips, man. And everybody, everybody in my class, not one of them voted for me.

• 40:16Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 40:17Speaker 04

  But I had freshmen and sophomores on lock. And I won on some like, just like he did on some like, I'm, I'm just promising.

• 40:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:26Speaker 04

  To guys who don't know what's going on.

• 40:27Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 40:28Speaker 04

  You know, but, but like, I'm just promising and they like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, I got in there. I ain't know how to, I ain't know no Robert's rules.

• 40:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 40:36Speaker 04

  I don't even know that's the word, but I couldn't hold no meeting or nothing. They was like, hey, bro. She was like, bro, you the worst thing that ever happened to me. And I led like two more organizations after that and I ruined them.

• 40:47Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 40:47Speaker 04

  Now I'm in the real life, oh, I'm just really just good at the talking part.

• 40:50Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 40:51Speaker 04

  I'm not really good at the.

• 40:52Stavros Halkias?

  The doing anything.

• 40:52Speaker 04

  The doing anything, just the talking part, yeah.

• 40:55Stavros Halkias?

  I get, interesting, I do think there's a little bit of like, uh, the way, uh, the way it used to be with closeted gay guys, where they became really good at their jobs, or they became really good artists. I think once being gay got more accepted in society, and not, I mean, it seems like there's a bit of a swing back. But when it became even relatively accepted, uh, I do think being a fat guy who can't get pussy, you kind of go in the same zone because even though it's not society stopping your sexual urges, it's just, girls don't want to fuck you. So you pour all your energy into being like, well, I don't have time for that anyway. I'm a workaholic. Even though it's not being in the closet to avoid women, it's the women are avoiding you.

• 41:38Stavros Halkias?

  The end result is the same because I had a very similar high school experience.

• 41:41Speaker 04

  This is funny. This, this is like, this is like, uh, this is, uh, the greatest take.

• 41:48Stavros Halkias?

  Thank you, yeah, yeah. I think it's similar because at the end of the day, you're sort of like, you were denied your true sexuality. One is because of hatefulness and bigotry and the other one is because you're just, you fucking had too many Totino's pizza rolls. But in the same, it ends up with, you still have a desire to like, prove your worth. So because it's not going to be through, you know, to express yourself, it's going to be through like, trying to be a, a, a, a high functioning, high powered individual.

• 42:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, because I think it's a level of like, I don't have time for that.

• 42:20Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  That's what I'm doing, really like.

• 42:28Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  I'm trying to like make life, you know.

• 42:30Stavros Halkias?

  Be mature, guys. I'm trying to get into college. I don't want pussy.

• 42:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:34Stavros Halkias?

  I don't want to fucking get head. I don't want to get head and have a, uh, go to a party and drink fucking Malibu and fucking finger a girl in my mom's Honda. No, I have to be class president.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  Uh, bro, I, I was some, I was some like super side note, bro. I, I was telling my friend the other day, I got a friend of mine, she, um, me her still cool to this day. I do believe that she saved me. She steered me away from incel hood, bro.

• 43:03Stavros Halkias?

  That's huge.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  I think you need, I think you need a level of some lady being nice to you at that age.

• 43:13Stavros Halkias?

  Absolutely.

• 43:14Speaker 04

  Before the Reddit get a hold of you.

• 43:15Stavros Halkias?

  Oh dude, I think about this all the time where if I had just met, cause I know, I know kids in high school who just got lucky and a, an outgoing girl had a crush on them, talked to them, they like dated, they were not, you know, she was nice to them, maybe they even fucked in high school and that guy's just a well-adjusted human being. If that had happened to me, if I had found a girl in high school who was just nice to me and like dated me, no chance I'm doing comedy. I'm just a nice guy in Baltimore right now.

• 43:44Speaker 04

  Bro.

• 43:44Stavros Halkias?

  Raising his children.

• 43:45Speaker 04

  Okay, so like, I don't even think I have to go all the way that far.

• 43:48Stavros Halkias?

  It doesn't have to go, the, what we're talking about is making a well-adjusted person.

• 43:51Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 43:51Stavros Halkias?

  Just a nice woman's friendship can at least steer you away from being an incel.

• 43:56Speaker 04

  Bro, shout out to Erica, man.

• 43:58Stavros Halkias?

  Shout out to Erica.

• 43:59Speaker 04

  Erica.

• 44:00Stavros Halkias?

  And the many Eridas out there.

• 44:01Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 44:02Stavros Halkias?

  You know, you're doing the Lord's work.

• 44:04Speaker 04

  Bro, when Erica came to our high school, bro, I don't know what made her do this. And when I bring this up there, it's so crazy.

• 44:10Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 44:10Speaker 04

  Cause she doesn't remember it.

• 44:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 44:11Speaker 04

  But she don't realize.

• 44:12Stavros Halkias?

  God was working through her.

• 44:15Speaker 04

  No, I truly believe this, bro. You joking? But I like, I think like this.

• 44:19Stavros Halkias?

  Well, you are from Georgia.

• 44:23Stavros Halkias?

  This is a cultural difference here.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  I'm absolutely from Georgia and I do think when I don't understand something, good or bad. If I don't understand something good or bad, it has something to do with God.

• 44:33Stavros Halkias?

  It's God or the devil.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  Either one. Either one. I'll decide.

• 44:38Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 44:39Speaker 04

  Bro, but she had this one phase, it was like two months.

• 44:44Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:44Speaker 04

  Where she just decided to tell people that we was together.

• 44:49Stavros Halkias?

  Wow. Wow.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  It was a, it was just a bit that she was doing. But after, but after the bit, it changed the ecosystem around me.

• 45:00Speaker 04

  Because like, even though they, even though they knew it wasn't, it, it was no possible way, cause she's like a really attractive lady.

• 45:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 45:07Speaker 04

  But it's no possible way, it still changed the stock of me in general, that she would make that choice.

• 45:13Stavros Halkias?

  You were just, yeah, the fact that she chose you as the fake nerd that she was dating.

• 45:18Speaker 04

  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 45:19Stavros Halkias?

  Ma- ma- made you alpha nerd amongst the rest of them.

• 45:22Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 45:23Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 45:24Speaker 04

  And I moved away from gross to women too.

• 45:27Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 45:27Speaker 04

  I'm just cool on it.

• 45:29Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 45:30Speaker 04

  I'm just cool.

• 45:31Stavros Halkias?

  I'm not actively disgusted, just not for me.

• 45:35Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 45:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could see somebody else doing it.

• 45:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:38Stavros Halkias?

  But it's not me, but I guess, yes.

• 45:41Speaker 04

  And I think once you hit that level, then it's like, it's, it's chill, you re- you a regular person now.

• 45:45Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 45:46Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I don't know what made her do that.

• 45:49Stavros Halkias?

  You've been moved up one rung in the high school caste system.

• 45:53Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying, bro.

• 45:54Stavros Halkias?

  You're not an untouchable anymore. You're whatever the lower rank of Indian guy is.

• 45:58Speaker 04

  Because I was wild annoying in school too. I had that bad, I was wild annoying in school.

• 46:03Stavros Halkias?

  You were annoying.

• 46:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, cause you know, like I said, like you were saying earlier, like I was real, I was big on some like, cause you know, I, I feel like when I was younger, I got re- I, I was like bullied a lot, so like. So when I got to high school, I was like the aggressor, like I was, I would say a lot of wild stuff to people.

• 46:18Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 46:19Speaker 04

  I was just like, I kinda like relished.

• 46:21Stavros Halkias?

  You really were on the route to being a redded incel.

• 46:24Speaker 04

  I relished in like being unlikable, you know what I'm saying?

• 46:27Stavros Halkias?

  Yes, you love trolls. Some, cause so, getting some reaction is better than being completely ignored.

• 46:33Speaker 04

  I, I think it's some of that, and it's on some like, it's on some like, I'mma attack you before you attack me.

• 46:39Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 46:40Speaker 04

  It's like a fake confidence.

• 46:41Stavros Halkias?

  Yes.

• 46:41Speaker 04

  You trying to cover up some insecurity about yourself. You know what I'm saying? I was, well, I was that due to a T, very unlikable. People in school, people in school, the, the biggest thing I, I be saying is like, I wanna be successful, so then people could be on TV and watch me on TV and be like, man, I beat that dude up, man, you know what I'm saying? They could be real proud of themselves for that.

• 47:02Stavros Halkias?

  You were doing it for the community.

• 47:04Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 47:04Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:05Speaker 04

  But I was very unlikeable in high school and but then when she came around, it flipped, bro. I just became somewhat cool. People started finding me funny.

• 47:13Stavros Halkias?

  And this is what age did this happen?

• 47:14Speaker 04

  This had to be.

• 47:15Stavros Halkias?

  Sophomore year, junior year?

• 47:17Speaker 04

  I had to be fifteen.

• 47:18Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 47:18Speaker 04

  Fifteen, I, no, I probably, at the tail end of fifteen, probably sixteen.

• 47:22Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, so probably sophomore or junior year.

• 47:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, beginning of junior year.

• 47:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:26Speaker 04

  Beginning of junior year, bruh.

• 47:27Stavros Halkias?

  That's good. That's important.

• 47:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, man. Yeah, bro.

• 47:30Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting, being on like, see, I guess I'm lucky because we definitely, I definitely had a little troll in me, don't get me wrong. But I still, I was pretty, I don't know, I did have like the class clown goofy. I didn't have, I never luckily went all the way to the like, I definitely bullied, don't get me wrong. But I'm like, I would, you know, I'm, uh, which comes from the same place of being like, being bullied a little bit in middle school.

• 47:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:58Stavros Halkias?

  And then it like, I kind of feel bad for these kids because they bullied me and then I rea- and then it became so clear I was so good at bullying.

• 48:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:05Stavros Halkias?

  And I flipped it and it was like, I was like, what the f- I'm letting these fucking little pieces of shit bully me? And I just, they couldn't have known, and I didn't know that my literal career would go on to be shitting on people. Like, I actually just was insanely talented at that. And so that was my first ever roasting of anyone and I was, and I would also like, you know, these were like smaller, they were like little nerd. I go, I went to like both, I went to city public schools, but you would test in, there was like, the way Baltimore worked is it's kind of fucked up. Because there was really only three good, they were like, look, this school system sucks dick. If we can make three good schools where the smart kids can go to college, that's all we're gonna do.

• 48:46Stavros Halkias?

  So my, and my mom was huge on fucking, you know, education, whatever she would like take me to get to. She would stay after school for me to get my grades up, like, and so I would always get into. Like these good schools and I would get into one of the like smarter classes. So it was like, I was going to Baltimore City Public Schools, but they would like, especially in middle school dude, they would like cordon us off. They were like, do not put any of these fucking dorks near the like, the regular kids essentially, cause they will get like, you know, they'll get fucked up or whatever. And so it was like these little dorks that bullied me in middle school and then very quickly I was like, once I, once I realized like, I don't need to take shit from these. I could literally fuck these kids up

• 49:29Stavros Halkias?

  and I'm funnier than them. That was the beginning of me just being a fucking terror. And then I would, and then I bullied a little, to, to, a little, a little much and then the insecurity from like, then the desire to get pussy and failing over and over again broke my spirit. That I think I wasn't a bully by the end anymore.

• 49:47Speaker 04

  Well, you know something interesting about that, bro? Like, I feel like I had this, almost a similar path except like, you know, when I was in high school, I was like real argumentative.

• 49:57Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm.

• 49:58Speaker 04

  Like I would like get into a bunch of spats.

• 50:01Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 50:02Speaker 04

  I would just like really scared into, I think I, I think I kinda wanted attention at the time by then process that's what it was.

• 50:09Stavros Halkias?

  Yes.

• 50:09Speaker 04

  But it wasn't until probably about twenty-six, I'd say about twenty-five, where I processed that some of the bullying was my fault.

• 50:19Stavros Halkias?

  Was fully deserved.

• 50:21Speaker 04

  Absolutely. Like, I had this idea from middle school that, that people would just mess with me for no reason. It's like, oh no, but I was a short fat dude who was talking too much.

• 50:33Speaker 04

  And I think, and I was, and I wasn't a roaster. I was just, I would just say wild stuff to people. That just wasn't nice.

• 50:40Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, true. Interesting.

• 50:41Speaker 04

  I think like at that age, nobody can process that emotion other than,

• 50:46Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 50:46Speaker 04

  it's time to donkey come.

• 50:49Speaker 04

  So a lot, so once I realized a lot of that stuff was my fault.

• 50:52Stavros Halkias?

  And when you say wild stuff, that's just shitty, you just mean like?

• 50:55Speaker 04

  I mean, I don't even wanna say, but like,

• 50:58Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 50:58Speaker 04

  Cruel.

• 50:59Stavros Halkias?

  Unnecessarily cruel things?

• 51:00Speaker 04

  Yes, that was my bag. Yeah, that was my bag. Just unnecessary.

• 51:05Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 51:05Speaker 04

  Uh, really lame stuff, man. And then I got Oh, and I was like, oh, I was, I was kinda like, a lot of this was my fault, bro.

• 51:12Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:12Speaker 04

  And so then now, now I just be on some like, now I'm like super like, yo, was I triple when I say that?

• 51:18Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:18Speaker 04

  Not like the mood all the way to the other side.

• 51:20Stavros Halkias?

  Well, that's important. It's important to have a little self-awareness.

• 51:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure.

• 51:23Stavros Halkias?

  You know, and I wonder what that came from as a kid, just behaving that way. I mean, it probably does start by just, the original bullying must have, I don't think was your fault.

• 51:34Speaker 04

  Nah, nah, nah.

• 51:34Stavros Halkias?

  And then it starts this cycle of how do I deal with it?

• 51:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:37Stavros Halkias?

  He's made a bad choice, you know?

• 51:40Speaker 04

  Well, you, you learn that, you know, evil is a poison, man.

• 51:44Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 51:45Speaker 04

  It's an infection.

• 51:47Stavros Halkias?

  I, I agree.

• 51:48Speaker 04

  So somebody get it from somewhere and they infect the, it infect other people. And it's yo, and it, it never, you gotta like, find way to subdue it.

• 51:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 51:59Speaker 04

  But if you don't, it's gonna, you gonna spill it out on everybody else, man.

• 52:03Stavros Halkias?

  No, it's true.

• 52:04Speaker 04

  And so I think I was just on that.

• 52:05Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, it's fucking, yeah, the, a great visual metaphor is the venom suit. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like, that's what it's like, dude. You feel fucking powerful calling, making fun of somebody who's like, you know, the dad died last year. When just, cause they were a little rude to you.

• 52:23Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 52:24Stavros Halkias?

  Just fucking hammering, you just like, ah, if you feel like you got the big ass tongue and the teeth like venom.

• 52:30Speaker 04

  And then you realize, dang, bro, this is, this is hurting me.

• 52:33Stavros Halkias?

  This is hurting me.

• 52:35Speaker 04

  This is hurting me. Then, then, then you, then ten years later, you, you running for mayor. And since seven people, like, when you was in high school, you ruined my life. You're like, ah, dang, my bad, bro.

• 52:49Stavros Halkias?

  I fucked that up.

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• 53:39Stavros Halkias?

  Well, we have, look, man, we could talk all day and we gotta, you know, we gotta keep getting, come back, we'll get further into your, your background, but we got, we got the people to help here, so. Uh, let's get some questions going. Anything you want to plug here in the midway, but we don't know when this is coming out, to be completely honest with you.

• 53:58Speaker 04

  Nah, I ain't got nothing to plug. I just like to have fun. I am ready for the last time I was here. I was surprised by this part.

• 54:03Stavros Halkias?

  You know what's going on now.

• 54:04Speaker 04

  And I know what's going on and I'm ready. I'm prepared to say something productive.

• 54:08Stavros Halkias?

  I love it. Let's go.

• 54:12Speaker 07

  Hey, Stav. How's it going? Big fan. Um. Anyways, I just, I just moved to the UK right now to do my masters and originally from Canada and from Toronto and. Well, essentially.

• 54:29Speaker 07

  Started sleeping with one of my professors.

• 54:32Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 54:33Speaker 07

  She's really cool. I'm having a good time. Um, but my issue is. Not getting the marks I need from her. Like she's, I'm getting horrible grades on my papers from her. And I'm just wondering what.

• 54:48Stavros Halkias?

  This lady rules.

• 54:49Speaker 07

  I should do. I just, I thought that, you know, with whatever the fuck we were doing on the side, that that would simultaneously like. I guess I just believe that I'd be getting great marks and I'm fucking dying in her class and I just don't know what to do, like.

• 55:11Speaker 07

  Not to say that I'd wanna blackmail her or anything, but like-

• 55:14Stavros Halkias?

  Of course not.

• 55:15Speaker 07

  Fuck, I just, yeah, I'm trying to-

• 55:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, he does.

• 55:18Speaker 07

  Trying to figure it out. So any, so any advice would be great. Um, I don't know what the move is here, uh. I'm just like, I just thought it was implied that I'd be getting great marks in that course. You know, we're, we're fucking a lot, so, um, yeah. Let me know. Love ya.

• 55:39Stavros Halkias?

  Hit the books, you fucking idiot.

• 55:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 55:42Stavros Halkias?

  Hit the fucking books. You want pussy and an A+? Fucking greedy. What were we talking about earlier? Greed is a disease.

• 55:49Speaker 04

  Bruh, yeah, yeah.

• 55:50Stavros Halkias?

  You're infected, you fucking bitch.

• 55:52Speaker 04

  You gotta know when you got enough, bro. And then, I like the word marks.

• 55:56Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, he's Canadian, yeah, yeah.

• 55:58Speaker 04

  He keeps using the word marks, but I'm just like, hey, bro, read the book in between.

• 56:01Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 56:02Speaker 04

  He need to be asking her to help for, uh-

• 56:04Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 56:05Speaker 04

  For some tutorials.

• 56:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, exactly. How about a little extra help instead of sucking me off? How about explain some key concepts?

• 56:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:12Stavros Halkias?

  Um, yeah, I mean, first of all, an incredible salute to this woman. This lady fucking rules.

• 56:17Speaker 04

  Nah, that's hilarious.

• 56:18Stavros Halkias?

  She's breaking down, this is a glass ceiling moment, where this is usually how a man behaves.

• 56:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:23Stavros Halkias?

  And I love to see a woman get a little fresh cock and then be like, well, look, pal, sorry, you didn't, you just didn't- She rules. She fucking rules.

• 56:31Speaker 04

  I love his logic, though, where he just like, he, cause he repeats it like three times in a, but, she's supposed to give me good grades. He's like, dude, that's what I would do, you know what I'm saying?

• 56:43Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 56:44Speaker 04

  Very logic, like.

• 56:44Stavros Halkias?

  That's a great point.

• 56:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:46Stavros Halkias?

  This clearly betrays that this man would love to sell good grades for pussy-

• 56:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:50Stavros Halkias?

  If he ever becomes a professor.

• 56:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:53Stavros Halkias?

  Um, yeah, she rules. What a pro, by the way.

• 56:56Speaker 04

  Studying, bruh.

• 56:56Stavros Halkias?

  Separation of church and state.

• 56:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:58Stavros Halkias?

  She's fucking keeping them separated, and I love that about her. And yeah, dude, you're a fucking whining, complaining little motherfucker. Just fucking study and get pussy.

• 57:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, man.

• 57:08Stavros Halkias?

  I don't wanna blackmail her. How dare you even bring up blackmailing this saint? Cause we know, Mandel's absolutely right. You do, that means you want to. Bruh, why would you, if, if you didn't want to, you wouldn't have even said it. But it's clear you think you, you're owed something. And the solution here is, there's, I don't think, I think this woman is such a pro that no matter how good the dick is, she wouldn't give you good grades. But at the same time, your options are study, that's number one, or get so good at fucking that this even like, this woman breaks her moral code, but you don't have, you don't possess that kind of dick, it's clear.

• 57:44Speaker 04

  Listen man.

• 57:45Stavros Halkias?

  Clear as day.

• 57:46Speaker 04

  It for her, separation of church and state, man.

• 57:49Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 57:49Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't even know that makes sense why I just said, but I do think in general, I do think in general, I like the idea that he keep going to the house thinking that one day the grades is gonna change.

• 58:00Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, if you keep.

• 58:01Speaker 04

  And it's like you gotta accept the reality and do some work, man.

• 58:04Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, you're nothing but a little piece of penis to this lady, and unless you fucking earn your keep, you're not gonna fuck your way to, to good grades. So, stop being greedy and work hard, brother.

• 58:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:17Stavros Halkias?

  You fucking, this would, this is what people, this is what people think of Canadians right here. This is what Americans think of Canadians, and you're just showing it to be true.

• 58:25Speaker 04

  I wonder where he go to school at? Did he say that?

• 58:27Stavros Halkias?

  He did not.

• 58:28Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 58:28Stavros Halkias?

  He just moved overseas to get a masters, yeah, somewhere in the UK. So, yeah, and it's some, so, you know, this lady sounds cool, she's smart, probably has a hot accent.

• 58:38Speaker 04

  I mean, he probably going through a lot, he in the UK eating all them beans, man.

• 58:41Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, the food is not great.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Plopping the beans on their plate for sure.

• 58:45Stavros Halkias?

  Food is not great unless you're in London.

• 58:47Speaker 04

  For sure, man.

• 58:48Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, but yeah, come on, man, grow up, fucking study. Next question, Elders.

• 58:54Speaker 05

  Okay, hi, so, hi, Elders, um, first time calling, uh, so, let's see, over a year ago, I started taking Ozempic.

• 59:07Speaker 04

  Let's go.

• 59:08Speaker 05

  And, um, cause I have type 2 diabetes, and I've lost almost sixty pounds.

• 59:16Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 59:17Speaker 05

  Which is really cool, and I've been married for two years. We've been together for. Ten years now and I love him. He's the love of my life.

• 59:33Stavros Halkias?

  Here we go.

• 59:34Speaker 05

  Um.

• 59:35Stavros Halkias?

  Here we go.

• 59:36Speaker 05

  He's come on a weight loss journey too. We're both big, thick, beautiful people.

• 59:41Stavros Halkias?

  Love that.

• 59:42Speaker 05

  Um, we decided, you know, to kind of stop eating like assholes.

• 59:46Stavros Halkias?

  I know this girl.

• 59:46Speaker 05

  Um, and successfully stopped.

• 59:49Stavros Halkias?

  She'll be our first woman.

• 59:50Speaker 05

  Not exercising. That was the big thing is that we both got, you know, comfortable and lazy because that's what you do when you fall in love. Plus, you know, like the pandemic. We, we really gained some weight. So we're doing good. I feel good about our decision. He does keep joking that he is scared

• 1:00:21Speaker 05

  that if I lose enough weight, I'm gonna leave him.

• 1:00:24Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 1:00:24Speaker 05

  And part of me at first was like, ha, hilarious. And then part of me kind of got mad because I'm like, is that who he thinks I am as a person? I don't think he does. I think he's just joking.

• 1:00:41Stavros Halkias?

  He's insecure, maybe.

• 1:00:42Speaker 05

  But you know, we have a pretty awesome sex life. You know, we're still

• 1:00:48Stavros Halkias?

  Wow.

• 1:00:48Speaker 05

  doing it three times a week, which for a married couple is great.

• 1:00:54Stavros Halkias?

  Good numbers.

• 1:00:55Speaker 05

  Um, we don't have kids. We just have three dogs. So it's pretty easy for us to keep the like spark going. And I love him so much. And I guess my question is, how can I continue to show that I love him and I'm not gonna cheat on him?

• 1:01:15Stavros Halkias?

  Wow.

• 1:01:15Speaker 05

  Or leave him when I lose weight besides just not doing that? And you know, I'm pretty cool in bed. I give really good blow jobs and you know, there's like some butt stuff and you know, I'm dying for that every once in a while too. So.

• 1:01:36Stavros Halkias?

  Get that in the mix.

• 1:01:37Speaker 05

  I guess, yeah, like what can I do to prove to him that I'm just not gonna up and leave?

• 1:01:44Stavros Halkias?

  This is incredible.

• 1:01:45Speaker 05

  Um, thanks so much. Love your show, religious listener. Thank you. Bye.

• 1:01:52Speaker 04

  Can I say something?

• 1:01:53Stavros Halkias?

  Absolutely.

• 1:01:54Speaker 04

  I owe this lady an apology, man.

• 1:01:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:56Speaker 04

  I absolutely thought this was going in the direction of she like, I done lost weight. I'm about to here.

• 1:02:02Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:02Speaker 04

  And she said the opposite.

• 1:02:03Stavros Halkias?

  Well, that's what's beautiful because we, on this show, we get this quite a bit. We've, it's become a bit of a meme on the show where I feel like every four months, every three months, we get one of these calls, which is a dude who's lost weight. And every time he wants to cheat. And this is just such a show, like,

• 1:02:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:19Stavros Halkias?

  how much better women are than men.

• 1:02:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:22Stavros Halkias?

  Like, she's lost all this weight and she's not only think, not thinking about cheating, she's figuring out how to, she wants to make her fat husband comfortable with her getting hotter?

• 1:02:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:34Stavros Halkias?

  It's not enough that you lost weight, you have to worry about this motherfucker?

• 1:02:38Speaker 04

  I was just about to say that. I was like, bro, this is, what makes this so nice is that she worried about something that's not even her fault.

• 1:02:45Stavros Halkias?

  No, no.

• 1:02:46Speaker 04

  She like, she like, how do I make him feel a cup? It's like, hey, bro, they ain't got nothing to do with you.

• 1:02:50Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, he's gotta be less insecure and like,

• 1:02:53Speaker 04

  He gotta be less insecure.

• 1:02:54Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, it's crazy. You're not doing anything wrong and like, you got, he just has, this is his issue to work through. I mean, you can talk to him about it. You could be like, why, why, you know, don't, I don't want you to feel this way. I love you, whatever. But it's like, if you don't change anything, if you keep behaving the same way, um, you don't really have to go out of your fucking way because,

• 1:03:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:15Stavros Halkias?

  and you know, this might be his insecurity. Um, he, he has to fucking, he should talk to somebody about this.

• 1:03:23Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 1:03:23Stavros Halkias?

  And, you know, it wouldn't hurt him instead of complaining to just also get healthier. She said they're on a weight loss journey together. Like, you know, she's zamped up, so it's easier to lose weight if he's not. But still, maybe this is a good, it's nice. I think the best solution for him would be to just kind of hop on the health journey with you. You guys have a great, no kids, good, like, you're still like a, a couple that's like, you know, he has the time in theory, if it's just you and him and he's got a job and some fucking dogs to feed every once in a while. Like, I don't know what's, you know, what's holding him back, but yeah, you're a very sweet person, but this is not. It's not your issue.

• 1:04:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. I think, I think that, I think that the dude gotta handle that insecurity on his own, man. You can't, he can't make her responsible for losing weight and looking better.

• 1:04:16Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:17Speaker 04

  He gotta be securing himself, so I think in that situation, she just gotta let it play out. I think he'll, he'll be straight.

• 1:04:24Stavros Halkias?

  And I also think, and this is the, most of the time what boils down on the show is like,

• 1:04:30Stavros Halkias?

  every time, like, you have a conversation, so it's like, he might be doing that weird pathetic like, huh huh. Yeah, I mean, he gets so high, you might leave me, and she's kinda have to give him like a half-hearted chuckle.

• 1:04:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:41Stavros Halkias?

  Instead of the half-hearted chuckle, be like, hey, I've noticed you made that joke a couple times. You know, one time, maybe you're just joking, but just in case you're not, I want you to understand, like, I would never do that. That's, and you could even be like, she's even a little offended, right?

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:57Stavros Halkias?

  And that's okay to, to voice that, to be like, not only would I never do that, but it's like, I'm not that kind of, like, that's not me at all, and I want you to be on the same, I want us to be on the same page as this, and I'm here to support you, whatever, and then you don't mention it ever again, and he has to just get it through his thick skull. Um, you know, the more sinister view is that like, would he, would somebody who has that insecurity, if he loses weight, would he try and get pussy elsewhere?

• 1:05:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:23Stavros Halkias?

  That's an interesting question, but I don't think so. I think probably what you're dealing with is, some guy who thought he was in a, you know, he thought he was in a, a, um, cause this, this is the flip, this is a little bit of fat phobia too, right? Thinking almost like, uh, she's a, like, sh- when his wife is fat, she's not the kind of person that could have cheated on him? Like, that, that would actually offend me a little bit, cause if she's, if I'm her, I'm like, buddy, I could have fucked somebody else fat.

• 1:05:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:57Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? Like, I could have been, when I'm, like, that's not what stopped me from, I would be a little offended there, where it's like, you think, this is why, you don't think I, you didn't find me valuable enough to cheat before? But now that I lost weight, you know, like, there's a lot of different readings on this situation, but I think ultimately, you're probably with a guy who was. Is just worried that it sounds like you guys had a great relationship and he's worried that something might upset the awesome situation he's in and if he's just an insecure guy in general, he'll glom onto anything. Um, that's been, you know, I've, I've definitely felt that way in the past, but I think one little conversation, if he keeps making that joke again,

• 1:06:38Stavros Halkias?

  and then let him, let him deal with it and just go about your business. It's not your job. You can't meet him halfway when you're, when you're already the one who's like lost weight.

• 1:06:46Speaker 04

  You made the best point that I was thinking about too, like him being like hi- his idea of like, oh, like when she was bigger, like we was chilling, we were both just doing our, our fat thing.

• 1:06:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:06:59Speaker 04

  Now you slim, now the dynamic off and it's like, hey, bruh, like, she probably could have been, if she wanted to do something, she could have.

• 1:07:05Stavros Halkias?

  She could have. And also, it's the best thing in the, I love being, being the fat guy with a hot girlfriend. One of the best things in the world. You know how mad people are, how jealous? People don't even believe it sometimes. They'll be, they'll be so mad of fat guys with a hot woman. They will pretend it's a conspiracy theory. They'll be like, they're not really dating. Ah, it's not true.

• 1:07:27Speaker 04

  I enjoy when they find out that I'm also broke.

• 1:07:29Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:32Speaker 04

  They're like, what, what, what? Where's the logic?

• 1:07:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, that's true. That's true. And recently it's become like, yeah, they've, a lot of people have stopped believing that I can't date women, like hot women. And now they'll be like, well, yeah, he's fucking rich. It's like, oh, okay. But before it just didn't, wasn't gonna, they, they, they love to, they love to deny. They love to just not realize that like, being a cool person and being a good hang matters so much to women. It's crazy. It's like unless, you know, they think you have to trick women with fucking and, and like borderline treat them like dogs to really get the love of a woman. Is you have to kind of like, uh, you know, train them as a, you have to be an alpha. Not true, really.

• 1:08:15Speaker 04

  The poison, man.

• 1:08:17Stavros Halkias?

  The poison dude, the venom suit.

• 1:08:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, the venom, the venom suit is perfect.

• 1:08:20Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't put the venom suit on. Yeah, you might be able to trick a couple insecure women into fucking you, but. You'll never find, they will be worse off, you will be worse off, and you'll never find an actual connection. But good luck out there. We believe in you and, and you know, keep up the good work.

• 1:08:36Speaker 04

  Keep, keep taking that zen.

• 1:08:38Stavros Halkias?

  Keep, yeah, we're, we're right on the way.

• 1:08:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm about to get mine.

• 1:08:40Stavros Halkias?

  I'm really considering it for real.

• 1:08:43Speaker 04

  We should do it at the same time.

• 1:08:44Stavros Halkias?

  That would be nice, dude. Yeah, yeah, the Ozempic Diaries.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Do a follow-up episode in a year, see where you guys are at.

• 1:08:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, oh, hell yeah. I could see you really ODing on it. I could see you really becoming like, going Al Sharpton with it. Yeah.

• 1:08:59Speaker 04

  Big ol' head, big ol' head, slim body. My favorite weight loss is when somebody got the big head.

• 1:09:05Stavros Halkias?

  The huge head, yes, yes, yes. They look like a fucking Pez dispenser.

• 1:09:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:12Stavros Halkias?

  Alright, what else we got here, Big Eld?

• 1:09:15Speaker 07

  Hey, Stav, how's it going? Um, quick question for you here, little, um, dilemma. I am married, uh, I don't have a lot of friends, uh, my wife does. Um, I moved out of state to be with her, so, uh, she has friends that she's grown up with. Uh, I don't, um, can't really make friends at work, they all suck. So, she has girlfriends and then they have boyfriends. Uh, I try to get close to some of their boyfriends. One of them I thought I really clicked with.

• 1:09:52Speaker 07

  Uh, we, you know, uh, when we all hang out as a group, I think we get along, you know, we like football, we like beer and drinking. I think he's a, a pretty cool guy. Um, the thing is, is I, I've, I've tried to bro him up. I've tried to hang out with him. I've, I've tried to kind of, uh, be in his circle. He's from here, so he has a group of, uh, guy friends already, um, that he hangs with. Uh, he doesn't invite me to hang out with his bros. He, uh, doesn't, you know, he, it's just when we are together with the wives and, and girlfriends and stuff.

• 1:10:32Speaker 07

  Um, yeah, what, what do I do here? Do I keep trying to hang out with this, this guy? Uh, do I let it go and just find my own friends? I mean, I'm gonna, I can't really like, you know, tell the guy off and be like, hey, I'm trying to be your friend, you know, fucking be my friend, uh.

• 1:10:50Speaker 04

  But trying to figure out what to do, let me know. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you, bro. I think this cat are alien. And human.

• 1:11:01Stavros Halkias?

  The guy calling, calling, yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:03Speaker 04

  I'm trying to bro him up. He never let me hang out with his bros. You're an alien undercover cop.

• 1:11:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, dude. Yeah, I mean, what's going on here? It's very simple, buddy.

• 1:11:15Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:11:16Stavros Halkias?

  The way you think all your work friends suck, but there's probably one guy you have lunch with because no one else is around, because he's the best of the guys you don't really like. That's what you are in the girlfriend playdate situation. When four girlfriends get together, you, him, and two other guys, he probably thinks the other two guys fucking suck dick and you're okay. And he doesn't mind talking to you, he doesn't even dislike you. He probably has kind of like lightly positive feelings towards you. But he does not like you anywhere near his, he likes his boys, right? You are the equivalent of a work friend, you're a girlfriend's boyfriend friend. And that happens. We've all been there.

• 1:12:00Stavros Halkias?

  I, in my, you know, other times when I've, when I've been dating somebody and like, they, we go to like one of their friends' parties and it's just a bunch of fucking doofuses. And there's one guy that's like, alright, I could talk about the ravages with this guy for a half hour. And I won't want to fucking blow my brains out. But I'm never fucking inviting him over to hang one on one. You know, that just happens in life, man. And right now, you're sounding like the next, you're sounding like a friend incel right now. You're like, this guy owes me friendship. This guy, I've been nice to him when we've had brunch. And he doesn't even want to drink beer with me, but I like beer. And he told me he likes beer too. And so it's like, you don't want to be that guy, man. You just have to understand this for what it is.

• 1:12:44Speaker 04

  Did they, did they say they moved to a new city or something? Why they don't have friends?

• 1:12:48Stavros Halkias?

  So this, that's, that explains it a little bit where this guy's desperate, right? We've all also been there. But you're, this is the, this is the like. It's like this, the analogy of an incel is so true here cuz he's a, he's, he's friend starved. The way other, an incel is pussy starved. And there's a desire, you really need friends so bad that, here's the other thing. You might not even, in a separate situation, this guy might not even be that great, but you just need it. A friend so, so bad that you're glomming on to the one guy you made an even sort of connection with.

• 1:13:22Speaker 04

  And I think you gotta make your intentions pure, man. I think you gotta be like, up top, like, I feel like if he went and was like, hey. I just moved to this city, trying to make some homies, whatever. I think that you can, he, he might consider that a little bit more cuz I think a part of this too. Is that this dude probably just don't think about him like that.

• 1:13:40Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure.

• 1:13:41Speaker 04

  This is my girlfriends.

• 1:13:43Stavros Halkias?

  Totally, we each have our own lives.

• 1:13:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, we have our own.

• 1:13:46Stavros Halkias?

  I'm kinda happy to see him at the barbecue, but I'm never gonna fucking chill with him outside of it.

• 1:13:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't even think it was, it might not even be intentional. He might just be like, hey, bro, this is just some dude.

• 1:13:54Stavros Halkias?

  Totally.

• 1:13:55Speaker 04

  And I think if you want to really, you might need to, at least just try to ask. And if not, man, if plenty of people like your football team, man, go to the bar. When they watching y'all games and.

• 1:14:07Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:07Speaker 04

  You'll make some buddies, man.

• 1:14:09Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, that's the other thing. He didn't, he didn't really, you didn't describe a lot of esoteric interests.

• 1:14:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:15Stavros Halkias?

  You said football, beer and drinking. I got great news, pal. There's a lot of fucking guys like that.

• 1:14:21Speaker 04

  Who like that.

• 1:14:22Stavros Halkias?

  A lot of, go to a fucking gamble, go fucking gamble somewhere, go to fucking, go to, if your town has a bar stool bar. Go there. You'll find a lot of guys like football, beer and drinking. Um, yeah, dude, and I think you're right, man, the words like, yeah, be like, hey, man, I, you know, just moved here, whatever. Yeah, if there's ever something, but you also have to really slow play it.

• 1:14:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:44Stavros Halkias?

  You can't come off needy. And by the way, if your girlfriends are both, are both like, if they're truly friends, they're gonna see each other a bunch. Don't, just slow play. Think of this as the ba- he's a back burner friend. Nail a lot of positive rea- interactions with this guy. Make it so that he does, you can creep, again, think of, this is the rare time where we're using the analogy of courtship. Think of it as you're his, again, I'll go back to the work friend analogy. Try and become this guy's work husband essentially. Try and be the best guy. Try and be the guy who's, who's a, a, you know, a, a little respite from how lame the other boyfriends are every time you guys are all hanging out.

• 1:15:28Stavros Halkias?

  Really show what you have to offer in the friendship department over time, but don't rush this and absolutely try and find other friends. This guy isn't gonna, this guy isn't gonna save you. He's not gonna airlift you out of having no social circle. What you're want is to be plugged into his shit. That's not gonna happen. See him as a long-term friend project and keep looking for, for other friends.

• 1:15:51Speaker 04

  And, and if I can give two things, I think you made the best point. Start with the value proposition, man. You got a great grill, you got a motorcycle.

• 1:16:01Stavros Halkias?

  Right, what you're bringing to his life, yeah. You're not that cool otherwise.

• 1:16:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then I think also too, it's okay to make some friends outside of your wife's, uh, friend's boyfriend, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:16:12Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:16:13Speaker 04

  I think he is plenty of homies in the sea.

• 1:16:16Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah.

• 1:16:18Speaker 04

  Find some common ground with somebody, just, you know, explore a little bit.

• 1:16:23Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:24Speaker 04

  I, I think, I think he, he limited himself on where he, where he fishing it.

• 1:16:27Stavros Halkias?

  I agree with that.

• 1:16:28Speaker 03

  I think, I think he could try casting a wider net too by putting together like, "Hey, the girls are going out on Sunday. I'm having some guys over, having all the boyfriends over to watch a game. The girls are gonna be out Friday, we're gonna do a poker night." Try to entice him with that, that's like, there's gonna be other people there.

• 1:16:47Stavros Halkias?

  Why would that guy wanna fucking do that though?

• 1:16:49Speaker 03

  Cause it's, cause that's a setting where you can kinda like come and go as you please. You don't feel obligated to stay the whole time. You have, you have more buffer space.

• 1:16:58Stavros Halkias?

  Friends to do that. That's part of the issue. He can't host an event with no-

• 1:17:02Speaker 03

  He said, he said they got like four couples in the mix. It's like, try inviting those guys over.

• 1:17:06Stavros Halkias?

  Hold on. You would wanna hang out with your wife's- Friend boy girlfriends friends solo?

• 1:17:14Speaker 03

  Maybe if.

• 1:17:16Stavros Halkias?

  Now you wouldn't.

• 1:17:17Speaker 03

  If it's something low impact like that, I've hung out with them enough time in the couple setting. And it's like, alright, let me.

• 1:17:23Stavros Halkias?

  But that's also another good example.

• 1:17:24Speaker 03

  Let me feel these guys out a little.

• 1:17:26Stavros Halkias?

  You've also been with your girl so long. That you do know these guys over time, kind of what we're telling this guy to do. You wouldn't have done that the first year of dating or the second year of that, you know what I mean?

• 1:17:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, maybe, I don't know, I think. That's just, that's just an idea for like, don't zero in so hard on this one guy, cuz that's like.

• 1:17:43Stavros Halkias?

  No, no.

• 1:17:43Speaker 03

  Weirdly desperate to like chase one dude like that.

• 1:17:46Stavros Halkias?

  That's a good point.

• 1:17:46Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:17:47Stavros Halkias?

  If you wanna be, if you wanna, if you wanna get him in the fold, you have to offer. Look at it like, offer something or. Create a low impact hang that you can invite him to. And maybe you can invite him enough times where eventually if you guys are. Boys enough in these situations, be like, bah. You know what, it does sound fun to go to the monster truck rally.

• 1:18:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:07Stavros Halkias?

  Or whatever the fuck it is, which actually does sound pretty sick.

• 1:18:10Speaker 04

  But I do agree, I, I do agree with you where, where, where like. I agree with you where, where it's like, hey, bro, if you. The poker is, the poker night is, I wanna play poker.

• 1:18:20Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:18:21Speaker 04

  So I might come mess with you on poker just because.

• 1:18:24Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:18:24Speaker 04

  The event that you've presented to me.

• 1:18:27Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:28Speaker 04

  And so I feel like that's a better option, being like.

• 1:18:29Speaker 03

  There's something to do at every second.

• 1:18:31Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:32Speaker 03

  And poker is so like, you can feel yourself being around dudes and you'd really truly need to barely talk like if you don't want to.

• 1:18:39Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:18:40Speaker 03

  That's, yeah.

• 1:18:41Stavros Halkias?

  No, you're right, I guess I'm only a little skeptical because. Where is he gonna find the dudes for that, but that's also a good. Goal is to be able to host a poker night. Pick the one good guy from your office.

• 1:18:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:52Stavros Halkias?

  Find some guy to, like. This is your chance to, to create a group of friends at a low impact, in a low impact situation.

• 1:19:00Speaker 03

  To be like, hey, if you want, bring one of your buddies or something.

• 1:19:04Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, bring whoever, yeah, bring whoever.

• 1:19:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:05Stavros Halkias?

  We're gonna fucking grill some steaks and play poker.

• 1:19:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:08Stavros Halkias?

  You're right, I might even, even if I don't like that that much, I'm like, bah. Sounds kinda fun.

• 1:19:12Speaker 04

  I'll come deal with that hang if I want, you know.

• 1:19:14Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, if you have nothing else going on, yeah. Okay, alright, alright, we feel, I feel good about that. Who else we got, little eldest?

• 1:19:24Speaker 07

  Alright, Stavi, I got a little predicament I'm in. Um, basically, my girl won't suck my balls.

• 1:19:33Stavros Halkias?

  Come on.

• 1:19:34Speaker 07

  That's kind of the issue.

• 1:19:36Stavros Halkias?

  (laughing)

• 1:19:37Speaker 07

  She's kind of bad at sex in general, but the no sucking balls is a big one, because like, I can fuck the starfish, it's just like, you gotta, hm, do any, you know?

• 1:19:51Speaker 07

  I don't know what to do.

• 1:19:52Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, man.

• 1:19:53Speaker 03

  He's anchoring.

• 1:19:54Speaker 07

  He's trying to talk about it. She's just like, it's not, she's like, it doesn't work. She doesn't like, you know, doing certain things, and I'm struggling. My ex was a freak.

• 1:20:06Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 1:20:07Speaker 07

  And maybe I'm, I'm holding on to that too much. Uh, but she was also not very loyal.

• 1:20:15Stavros Halkias?

  (laughing)

• 1:20:16Speaker 07

  We should say. So, yeah, that's it.

• 1:20:18Stavros Halkias?

  (laughing)

• 1:20:19Speaker 07

  Thank you, let me know.

• 1:20:20Stavros Halkias?

  Not very loyal, you could say, wow. This guy sounds like he's fucking writing, uh, press reports for fucking the IDF. Um, okay, so, look, the, that is tough, going from a freak to somebody that barely does anything. I empathize a little bit here. Sucking balls is hysterical, because also a suck, I don't know about you fellows, suck doesn't feel good to me. It can feel painful, the hard impact, so, maybe that guy's into this, though. Uh, the like, you know what I mean?

• 1:20:58Speaker 03

  I think, I think he mean, you know, when you say sucking dick, you don't mean just full-on suck, you mean getting your dick licked a little?

• 1:21:04Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, but that's a more general thing. Sucking balls, I feel like, is an actual, uh, specific. You know what I mean?

• 1:21:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean.

• 1:21:13Speaker 04

  I'm, I'm trying, what I'm trying to figure out is...

• 1:21:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:19Speaker 04

  With, so, okay.

• 1:21:20Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:21:21Speaker 04

  So then, uh, why is this so like?

• 1:21:27Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:28Speaker 04

  He's so upset about this.

• 1:21:30Stavros Halkias?

  I think, I think probably because he just got off of a situation where uh, the sex was really good and obviously other things were left to be desired, i.e. His girlfriend not getting, uh, his girlfriend uh, wouldn't stop fucking other guys. Which I think if you had to pick one or the other, I would probably pick bad at sex and doesn't fuck other guys behind my back. But, that's also, you know, that's also a false equivalency because I think not all hoes are good at sex. And not all loyal women are prudes, right? And look, if you've already talked about it, if you're not on the same wavelength sexually, unfortunately, that might be a deal breaker.

• 1:22:14Stavros Halkias?

  What's the rest of the relationship like? Is she great? Is she awesome in every other way? Has she shown any, um, you know, uh, openness to exploring more? Is this your fault? Are you not doing what you need to do to get her excited about fucking? Are you the kind of guy who's like begging for pussy when she's busy and she's like, alright, I'll just, you can fuck me real quick, whatever? Uh, are you creating a romantic, uh, erotic environment? Are you going out of your way to help her with stuff? What's the foreplay like? Are you eating pu- you want her to suck dick like a freak, are you eating pussy to your maximum abilities? You know what I mean? Like, let's think about all of this, right? And if you think you've maxed out every reason why she's not behaving in a freaky manner,

• 1:23:00Stavros Halkias?

  and you just aren't on the same page? That might be a deal breaker, honestly, at the end of the day.

• 1:23:06Speaker 04

  I think he gotta count his blessings, man. Listen, man. Your last shawty was doing you dirty. This lady seem like she loyal, man. You be out, man.

• 1:23:18Stavros Halkias?

  This is a god fearing country man right here. This is the difference between a coastal, a coastal elite and a god fearing man from Georgia. I say go for the frie- find the freak that's also loyal.

• 1:23:30Speaker 04

  Coastal elite.

• 1:23:32Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm definitely a coastal elite, Balt- from Baltimore and I live in Astoria.

• 1:23:38Stavros Halkias?

  I guess, I guess what I mean is a mid Atlantic, uh, a fucking, a sex pervert from the mid Atlantic is really how I would describe myself. But yeah, dude, I mean, at the end of the day, if you don't click sexually, that can be a deal breaker. For me, what can I say?

• 1:23:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:23:53Stavros Halkias?

  We see, we see things differently, Mandel. What can I say?

• 1:23:56Speaker 04

  Fair enough, fair enough.

• 1:23:58Stavros Halkias?

  Um, here, here, here's with another one else. Let's do a couple more here.

• 1:24:05Speaker 05

  So, I've been really interested in getting into the idea of threesomes.

• 1:24:10Stavros Halkias?

  Nice.

• 1:24:10Speaker 05

  And I more so wanna fuck the girlfriends in like an established couple and less want to fuck the men, but I don't really know if there's a way to proposition this without being hurtful.

• 1:24:25Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 1:24:25Speaker 05

  Uh, and I was wondering if you had any advice. Uh, thanks.

• 1:24:29Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 1:24:30Speaker 04

  Why she don't just date the ladies?

• 1:24:32Stavros Halkias?

  I think there's probably something, she wants to essentially cuck the man while he's there. Is that what she's saying?

• 1:24:41Speaker 03

  Cuck feels extreme for the tone I'm picking up. I don't know.

• 1:24:45Stavros Halkias?

  I don't think so at all, cuz she's, cuz you're right. She, it's like, she's talking about it in the context of a threesome. So she wants the guy sort of involved, but she doesn't wanna fuck the guy? But does she want the girl to like fuck the guy while she's there? I don't get it. Or does she want the guy to ha- watch her fuck his girlfriend? That's how I'm, that's what I'm thinking.

• 1:25:05Speaker 04

  Yeah. I, it seem, it seem like she wanna be with women who got a boyfriend.

• 1:25:11Stavros Halkias?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:25:12Speaker 04

  So something about the boyfriend, her, the, the lady having a boyfriend is attractive there.

• 1:25:16Stavros Halkias?

  Exactly. That, that adds a little something to it for her.

• 1:25:19Speaker 03

  But who knows? Maybe she also likes the thought of being in there while like the couple is fucking too.

• 1:25:24Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure. So, so maybe a mix, a little voyeuristic plus a little cuckling.

• 1:25:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:25:29Stavros Halkias?

  Light, you know, she wants to be the, uh, the bull in this scenario.

• 1:25:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:25:34Stavros Halkias?

  And here's the thing.

• 1:25:37Stavros Halkias?

  It is a finer needle to thread than a regular threesome. Um, but I think there's probably guys out there that would be down for this. I per- I could say personally, I don't mind the idea of a woman watching me fuck a girl. I think that's awesome. Um, now would I like to also fuck the other girl if she's there? Yeah, in a perfect world. But if she's, if I'm fucking, if I'm fucking a hot girl and a different hot girl's like sucking on her titties and then she fucks her.

• 1:26:10Stavros Halkias?

  Am I gonna really complain about that? Probably not. But there's a ver- the, the, the amount of people that are gonna be in that, it's a small group, I would say.

• 1:26:18Speaker 04

  I about to say, I think if, because she is a lady talking about a lady in her book, I think this is not a hard conversation for her to have.

• 1:26:27Stavros Halkias?

  I agree.

• 1:26:28Speaker 04

  Like, I think you could present this to people.

• 1:26:31Stavros Halkias?

  You could present this at a bar.

• 1:26:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think people would.

• 1:26:34Stavros Halkias?

  And even if they're saying no, if a hot, if I'm there somewhere with my girlfriend, and a hot girl's like, "I wanna fuck your girlfriend while you watch," and I'm not into it, I'd be like, on some level, I'd be flattered. And on some level, I'd even, I would think about it. And I'd be like, "Ha, oh, thanks, but we're good." It's not like a guy coming up and be like, "I wanna fuck your girl." Then I'd have to fuck him up, you know what I mean? Or more realistically, try and fuck him up and get my ass kicked. But either way, I would have, it would piss me off.

• 1:27:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't, I don't think that this, her approaching this conversation, nobody's gonna walk away like,

• 1:27:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And let's also think, she said, you said you're more into the idea of fucking the girl. Would you give the guy a little he- I mean, just a little something to prime the pump? I think, you know, I think you're already close.

• 1:27:26Speaker 03

  Throw the guy a bone.

• 1:27:28Stavros Halkias?

  Throw the fucking guy a bone, suck his dick for a little bit, and then fuck his wife. Is that so much to ask? He's letting you fuck his wife. I mean, I think that's a fair trade. You don't have to suck him off that long. You don't even let him have to, he doesn't even have to fuck you, but if you suck him off, I think you're, I think you're totally in the clear.

• 1:27:47Stavros Halkias?

  I think if a girl did, oh, fuck, if somebody did that proposition, and she was like, "If we started it, hey, can I fuck your wife?" I'm like, "Ah, you know, that's alright." She's like, "Alright, how about this? I'll suck your dick a little bit." I'll be like, "Sister, you gotta deal."

• 1:28:02Stavros Halkias?

  Put her there.

• 1:28:05Stavros Halkias?

  "We'll see you in room four two eight." "Here's the extra key."

• 1:28:10Speaker 03

  It's a contract negotiation.

• 1:28:11Stavros Halkias?

  It's a negotiation.

• 1:28:12Speaker 03

  Everyone has to give up a little something.

• 1:28:14Stavros Halkias?

  That's exactly right. The, the mark of a good compromise is nobody's happy.

• 1:28:22Speaker 04

  I just like that this idea happening like Shark Tank.

• 1:28:27Speaker 04

  So I would like to present to you.

• 1:28:31Speaker 04

  You sitting there with a suit on.

• 1:28:35Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 1:28:38Stavros Halkias?

  I'm willing to offer you forty-five dollars for a point one percent stake in your pussy.

• 1:28:45Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, alright, so good luck out there, but I think, I think you're, you know, just be prepared for a little rejection from time to time, but if you pick some freaks who are into threesomes and you try and negotiate them down to I fuck your girl while you jack off in the, yeah, I think some people might be into it. Because of homophobia, way more people will be into it than, than a guy fuck, like, I still, even though I know and it is homophobic, sometime, I think I would let my girl fuck a woman

• 1:29:17Stavros Halkias?

  because I think it's hot because I'm stupid, even though, you know, it's probably a huge mistake that could cost me a, but I think, I find that, what do you want from me? I'm a fucking idiot and that sounds cool to me. Um, alright, what do we got, another, just do another one here, Eldis?

• 1:29:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. This kind of a longer one, but we could wrap, we have a couple of really short options.

• 1:29:37Stavros Halkias?

  Short ones after this if we don't like, alright, if we don't like this one.

• 1:29:41Speaker 07

  Howdy, Stavi, uh, my name's Chris, I'm from Virginia, I've had some questions related to some best friend drama here.

• 1:29:48Stavros Halkias?

  Uh-oh.

• 1:29:49Speaker 07

  Been best friends with this guy for ten years, best friends from high school, um, basically his girlfriend won't let him hang out with me anymore.

• 1:29:59Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 1:29:59Speaker 07

  A little context there, uh, you know, around December time, we got a little bit of a couple of road so's deep, had a little bit of a double couple action, a little foursome situation happened, him and his girlfriend and me and my then-girlfriend. Um, and, uh, it wasn't too crazy, but the issue was, I guess, after that, is I, uh, continued to one-on-one sleep with his girlfriend.

• 1:30:20Stavros Halkias?

  What?

• 1:30:21Speaker 07

  Which I could see would be a problem, um, but the boundaries were a blur, so.

• 1:30:26Stavros Halkias?

  This can't be real.

• 1:30:27Speaker 07

  Confusing than that, but um now I haven't talked to this guy since January. It's been it's October now. I finally pulled the crazy girlfriend move, showed up to his location on his phone and just confronted him about it.

• 1:30:40Stavros Halkias?

  But wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Am I getting this right?

• 1:30:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:30:44Stavros Halkias?

  Bring it. Let's, let's just make sure I'm understanding this, because if I'm understanding it, this is insane. Him, so the, our caller and his ex-girlfriend had a foursome with the guy.

• 1:30:59Stavros Halkias?

  I'm so, okay, the question he said is, my best friend's girlfriend won't let me hang out with him anymore.

• 1:31:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31:06Stavros Halkias?

  And our caller and this, our caller and his girlfriend and the couple he's calling about all had a foursome.

• 1:31:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31:16Stavros Halkias?

  The caller fucked the girl, he says, isn't letting him see his friend anymore.

• 1:31:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. They fucked one on one for a bit.

• 1:31:25Stavros Halkias?

  He fucked his best friend's girlfriend one on one for a while. And now, and that's, and this guy is the one who is confronting his friend about why he's not hanging out with him?

• 1:31:37Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:31:37Stavros Halkias?

  That's what I'm to believe here.

• 1:31:39Speaker 04

  And then he, I, I'd like the idea that he think it's the girlfriend keeping him away.

• 1:31:43Stavros Halkias?

  And he, I'm sure he's saying there's more context.

• 1:31:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:31:46Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe they're in some kind of poly thing. What it's like, dude, it doesn't matter.

• 1:31:50Speaker 04

  It doesn't matter, yeah.

• 1:31:51Stavros Halkias?

  You fuck, and no matter how open and cool they are, you fucked your friend's girl one on one for a little bit afterwards? Unless he's like, being like, unless he's a turbo cuck who loves that shit, that's weird on its own, but whatever. If that's where you guys are into, that's what you're, and you have very clear communication, but you're a fucking lunatic so far. So anyway, I just wanted to make sure I got this right, because it was, I was like, what the fuck is he talking about? So, okay, we have all that.

• 1:32:18Speaker 03

  He said he's basically not seen the guy since January. This was in October and he like went, showed up to, pulled up to this guy's work, I guess, and.

• 1:32:27Stavros Halkias?

  Insanity.

• 1:32:28Speaker 07

  Patient on his phone and just confronted him about it and pulled up to him at a zero subs. His family, his family's happy to see me and he was fine too. We got to talking and um basically he said, "Yeah, I just haven't been able to talk to you. My girlfriend doesn't like me hanging out with you. She thinks you're a bad influence."

• 1:32:44Stavros Halkias?

  The girl he fucked!

• 1:32:45Speaker 07

  She's worried that if I hang out with you, I'm gonna cheat on her, is what he said. So, which is crazy, um but uh, you know.

• 1:32:53Stavros Halkias?

  What?

• 1:32:54Speaker 07

  We have gotten up to a couple, you know, couple of problems here and there, but everything else has been perfectly fine, you know? And that, you know, there was that one situation, but I feel like if I got over it.

• 1:33:04Stavros Halkias?

  That one situation, you fucked his girlfriend? Are you fucking kidding me? That one situation? What the fu- I mean, this is insane. This is the most gaslit call- this guy even believes in himself. He's talking about it like he fucking forgot that he was house-sitting and he forgot to change the kitty litter and smelled like cat shit when he came back. That's what he's talking about fucking his girlfriend for a couple of months? Okay, keep going. I mean, I'm losing my mind here.

• 1:33:27Speaker 04

  No, no, no, I, I'm trying to gather out of that before I make my point.

• 1:33:30Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, of cour- let's finish up, but I just, this, this guy is, we have to fact-check him at every fucking angle. Keep going.

• 1:33:38Speaker 07

  Sleeping with your girlfriend. If we got past that, how is there another boundary that's worse than that? In my mind, the worst boundary would be me sleeping with your girlfriend, but yeah, she tracks him on everything. She has his iPad, so she can see everything he has on his iPhone.

• 1:33:52Stavros Halkias?

  What?

• 1:33:53Speaker 07

  She has his login through social media, has his Life360, um and they're moved in together. Um, I tried to reach out to her, um, you know, to, you know, like apologize, I guess, I don't know, but she just won't have it. So, I don't know where to go from here, cause it's, I got him on like a fake Snapchat. I haven't used Snapchat in fucking four years, cause I'm an adult. And now I gotta talk to him like we're having an affair already, so it's like, what's the difference?

• 1:34:17Stavros Halkias?

  Even though you had an affair with his girlfriend?

• 1:34:18Speaker 07

  Yeah, I just want my best friend back, but.

• 1:34:20Stavros Halkias?

  You fucked his girlfriend!

• 1:34:22Speaker 07

  Being controlled by this girl now.

• 1:34:23Stavros Halkias?

  Who you fucked?

• 1:34:24Speaker 07

  He doesn't really like that much, but he has this problem where if he thinks he's gonna break up with somebody, he freaks out because he doesn't think he's ever gonna find love again, but you know, I don't know if this is even love, so. Yeah, but I just want my best friend back. I just didn't know if you had any advice for that, you know, there's a lot more context, but. Uh, you know, that'd take a couple hours.

• 1:34:45Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, okay. There's no context.

• 1:34:47Speaker 07

  Appreciate any advice you can give me, man. Miss my buddy. Uh, luck your show. Bye bye, bud.

• 1:34:51Stavros Halkias?

  All right. This is insane. Go ahead, Mandel. Go ahead.

• 1:34:55Speaker 04

  I got two things, bro. So I think the first thing that this dude, I think that this lady might like this dude.

• 1:35:05Stavros Halkias?

  Very possible.

• 1:35:06Speaker 04

  I think the girlfriend is trying to keep this dude as far away from them because I think she liked being involved with him.

• 1:35:15Stavros Halkias?

  That's very possible, or.

• 1:35:16Speaker 04

  But I got, I got caveats. My second thing is, I think also his homie is not over the fact.

• 1:35:26Stavros Halkias?

  Of course not!

• 1:35:27Speaker 04

  That he did something with his girl.

• 1:35:30Stavros Halkias?

  Of course, and here's the other thing.

• 1:35:31Speaker 04

  And so I think he put, yes, he putting the blame on the girlfriend. I think he in general don't want to be friends with this dude no more.

• 1:35:37Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:37Speaker 04

  Because he know what happened between you and his girl. You know what I'm saying?

• 1:35:41Stavros Halkias?

  Here's the, here's truly what's going on here. Your friend is a coward. You, the, you, the way you think a woman is running his life and he's not standing up for himself in those relationships, he's absolutely doing the same with you. You fucked his girl, man. You want to know how to get your friend back? It's, oh, you committed a truly, like, that's an unforgivable sin. That's it, dude. He's still with her. He, whatever you want to say, he chose her over you. They, you fucked this girl and, and they're still together. And yet, you think they shouldn't be together because you want to hang out with him. You want to clear your conscience. You fucked your life up and maybe their life up too.

• 1:36:23Stavros Halkias?

  You're a fucking piece of shit. You're a selfish piece of shit. Whatever context there is, it's whatever, it's the mental gymnastics. The context you claim, I already know it. It's some bullshit that you've convinced yourself you're in the right. You're a fucking dickhead. There's no, and listen, call in. I'd love to actually talk to you. I'd love to call on a live call and get to the bottom of this. You fucked up. You should, now, again, unless we said, there's some kind of turbo cuck situation, but that's not what's going on here. You're incredibly selfish, you committed a very selfish act, and you want your life to go back to what it was. It's never gonna go back to what it was.

• 1:37:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, he, I think it's two things. I think the couple in, in, like you said, in tandem, wants to get rid of him. So he's a part of their past, and he want the homeboy to get rid of the girl, so the girl's a part like.

• 1:37:14Stavros Halkias?

  Of course, yeah.

• 1:37:15Speaker 04

  It, in order for any of these three people to work, somebody has to leave and they don't exist no more.

• 1:37:21Stavros Halkias?

  And the real answer is this guy should leave both of you behind. You're both pieces of shit. She fucked you, you fucked her, and think you're entitled to something, and now you're trying to make her the villain. You're a dickhead. I feel bad for this guy, but he's also su- he's clearly a pussy. He's clearly fu- a coward who doesn't wanna stir the pot with either one. You think he really was happy to see you? You think this woman, like, he's just, he du- he hates confrontation, and you've taken advantage of that your whole relationship. You probably miss having a Stevie, he's probably your Stevie and you think you're Kenny Powers. Guess what? You're both Stevie. You're not, you're Stevie, he's just a little, he's just a little sadder than you. You're not a cool guy, you're a fucking asshole. You fucked your best friend's girl.

• 1:38:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's got like a very cold, like, serial killer, gaslighting logic. Where he's like, dude, we moved past the whole, I fucked your girlfriend thing. Why can't we hang out?

• 1:38:14Stavros Halkias?

  You moved past it. Do you really think he's past it?

• 1:38:18Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:38:18Stavros Halkias?

  You're, yeah, I, honestly, I hate you. I think you're a fucking asshole. Because here's the other thing, you weren't even honest with us.

• 1:38:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:38:26Stavros Halkias?

  You weren't even like, dude, I made the biggest fucking mistake of my life. I'm an idiot. I fucked my best friend's girl, and I'm so desperately trying to like make up for it. I don't know what I can do. I'm racked with guilt. He doesn't even sound guilty. You're right, Eld, he's like, we moved past it. You shouldn't have moved past it.

• 1:38:46Speaker 04

  I feel bad for the homeboy.

• 1:38:46Stavros Halkias?

  I would never move past. Absolutely, I feel bad for him.

• 1:38:49Speaker 04

  Because I hate that he think that he can't find love again. I hate that he think that he gotta stick with a lady.

• 1:38:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:56Speaker 04

  Who would deal with his best friend like.

• 1:38:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:38:59Speaker 04

  You can do better than that, you seem like a solid dude.

• 1:39:01Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, and here's the, all we're, this is classic, the most unreliable narrator of all time.

• 1:39:07Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 1:39:08Stavros Halkias?

  So we don't even know what happened. And he claims there's more context. I'm very dubious about the context he claims there is. Um, and the context is probably shit. He, people like this will force like non-confrontational people to agree to things that they don't actually believe. So it's like, you know, he thinks the world works like, you know, well, technically, he said it was okay after he like badgered him about it or something. Life isn't like law, like a court of law. It's no technicalities, based on emotions and how you actually treated people. You have to start fucking understanding that and honestly, you don't deserve your, if you fucked this guy's girlfriend, even if it was in some messy, oh, I

• 1:39:52Stavros Halkias?

  I pressured them into a fucking foursome, like, I'd love to know whose idea the foursome was. Now, was it your friend's idea and he opened Pandora's box? And, and then maybe you and his girlfriend pressured him into pretend, like, if you did that behind his back in any way, I don't need any more context.

• 1:40:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:40:09Stavros Halkias?

  None whatsoever.

• 1:40:11Speaker 04

  And he gotta, and he gotta accept that if your friend really wanna be your friend, he'll help you, like showing up to his, his, well, he showed up to his job or something.

• 1:40:23Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, all of that is like, hey, man, if this dude wanna be homies with you, he'll, he'll reach out to you.

• 1:40:29Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:40:29Speaker 04

  If the relationship supposed to be there, he'll be there, but you can't force something after you done did something wrong to somebody, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:40:35Stavros Halkias?

  You have to, you have to pay for your sins.

• 1:40:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, accept your consequences.

• 1:40:39Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, exactly, accept your consequences.

• 1:40:40Speaker 04

  Y'all had a homie.

• 1:40:41Stavros Halkias?

  Well, what a fucking asshole, uh, all right, Eldest, you got something fun for us to go out on here?

• 1:40:52Speaker 07

  Hey Stav, uh, long time listener, I've called a couple times. Uh, you know, I've had a resurgence in just not feeling great about myself. How, how do you love yourself? You seem like a guy that is confident and honestly, you've taught me so much ever since BSW solves your problem days. About uh, being the fat little rascal, uh, myself, about uh, being confident and there's a market for people like us, being a fun hang, easy things like that. Uh, but now I'm trying to go to the next level, I guess. Um, how do you love yourself?

• 1:41:37Speaker 07

  How do you become more confident, um, as a fat little rascal? And, um, and you know, it, it's, it's just something that I've been struggling with. Alright, love ya, bye.

• 1:41:50Speaker 04

  I wanna know the answer to this too, man. I have nothing to contribute.

• 1:41:56Stavros Halkias?

  Well, um, I mean, that's not true. Come on, you're doing great, buddy. You're, you're doing a great job of it. You're, you, you've actually are a great example of finding your thing and finding your zone. And, and I would say, I would say, one thing to tell this, to tell our friend here and, and you know, other people who are, uh, in the plus size community and especially, you know, non pussy getting fat guys, like, first of all, don't think of it as a market. We're not products. You're a fucking guy, right? And by the way, my thing is I'm the fucking best hang in the world. I'm awesome to hang out with and I'm, uh, you know, I'm good at riffing, making you feel comfortable, I'm curious about people, like, I have certain skills, but also that doesn't have to be you. Yeah. The reality is you find who you are.

• 1:42:41Stavros Halkias?

  The, what to take away from it is that no matter who you are, no matter how you look, no matter how you behave, there are a significant amount of people in the world that want that kind of person in their life. That's the lesson, man, is to realize, yeah, maybe I'm not for everyone, maybe the way the world works, a lot, the majority of people aren't interested in hanging out with me or fucking me, right? But more people in the world wanna fuck you than you could ever fuck. Even if you're a fuck, no matter who you are, and that goes double if you take little steps to improve yourself, just to make yourself feel better. That number will go up. And so that's the real lesson, dude, is realizing that like,

• 1:43:21Stavros Halkias?

  you don't have to be something else. You don't have to, don't try and be who I am. Don't try and be who Mandel, you know what I mean? Don't, don't, and look, you can take, um, uh, you can be inspired by and incorporate certain parts of the things that we do. Maybe some fashion sense, maybe go unk mode. You've been a great, you've been, that's sort of your version to sort of your spin on what I do. I got my thing, right? I come from the east coast. I, I like fat guys and Hawaiians and tracksuits. You got your, your, you know, your sixty year old cousins coming in with the kangols, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're crushing it. And it's like, find your version of what you feel comfortable in, who you wanna be.

• 1:44:02Stavros Halkias?

  And then go out and figure out who you wanna be, who you are, and then figure out what the better version of yourself is, not of somebody else. Don't mold yourself into somebody else. Mold yourself into the best version of you, and then you go out and find the people that would like that, and they're out there, bro. So, don't worry about, you know, we all go through that, right? Not feeling good about yourself, no matter who you are. Everybody feels that way. As long as you're just more often than not trying to be better and trying to be true to who you are, that's the secret, dude. I mean, I feel that I've gotten more secure in myself every year by just

• 1:44:43Stavros Halkias?

  figuring out what I actually like and not trying to, you know, go, uh, fit into people's expectations and just being more and more me. And that's all it is, dude. So don't, don't get caught up in like having to recreate any kind of archetype. Figure out who you are, and then go for that. And if you're not, if you don't have to be like a fucking big fat party animal life of the party guy, you can be whoever you want. It's fun to be that guy. I like it, but if that's not you, don't stress over that. Figure out who you are, and then be the best version of you, no matter what it is.

• 1:45:17Speaker 04

  I think that was phenomenal advice, bro.

• 1:45:20Stavros Halkias?

  Thanks.

• 1:45:20Speaker 04

  And I want, I want to add one thing too. I do think that, I do think that, I think you just gotta be kind to yourself, man.

• 1:45:26Stavros Halkias?

  Absolutely.

• 1:45:27Speaker 04

  And I think that you gotta practice kindness on others to develop it within, you know. Just how people was mean to you.

• 1:45:33Stavros Halkias?

  Kindness is huge. Kindness is absolutely huge.

• 1:45:34Speaker 04

  You do, you, you, just how people was mean to you and you start to feel bad about yourself. I think you gotta practice being kind to others and it'll come on to yourself as well. And also, just really dive into the things that you like and accept the people who also like those things.

• 1:45:51Stavros Halkias?

  That's who you are, yes. Those are your contemporaries.

• 1:45:53Speaker 04

  And don't worry about the people who don't, you know. If you like Hot Wheels or whatever, you gonna have to get the Hot Wheels, shawty.

• 1:46:02Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:46:04Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying? And that's what it is.

• 1:46:05Stavros Halkias?

  But the good news is, there are, that, there's more than ever, I feel like, women who are into these weird, like, the internet has showed us that there's a ton of like, and it goes back to the, the, the perpetual example is the anime kids growing up. You know what I mean? Like, they were better off because they had their own little fucking community. And now the whole world is, loves anime, which is crazy, but there, there, those guys are, those guys are really feasting right now, but.

• 1:46:32Speaker 04

  But you could apply that to anything, though.

• 1:46:33Stavros Halkias?

  Absolutely. No, that's what I'm saying. It's like, that's, that's like, whatever it is, be that. And the kindness thing is a huge note, it's something I think we should start hitting on the show, is like, it's never a mistake to be a little kinder than you think you need to be. You will never regret that. You will never regret being nicer to someone. You will never regret tipping a little more than you, you have to, or whatever. You will never regret just helping somebody out just a little more, right? If you have the time, or the money, or the resources, or whatever, it's always, when in doubt, be a little kinder. You will be shocked how much that improves your life.

• 1:47:07Speaker 04

  It does. Also, no, because in that moment, no matter what happens, you could always rely on being like, hey, at least I'm a good person.

• 1:47:15Stavros Halkias?

  Totally.

• 1:47:16Speaker 04

  And that's the thing that matters the most, bro.

• 1:47:18Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:18Speaker 04

  And I think, things are fleeting, like, you could lose a game way, or have more money, or less money. But if you're just a solid individual, I feel like that, that, that kind of sticks with you and makes you feel good about yourself.

• 1:47:29Stavros Halkias?

  And that, that's the, the, the key to everything. It's like, Like, that's something I think about, you know, my shit's been going really good the last couple of years. But it doesn't change who you actually are. And like, success, all this, as cliche as it is, even if you start, you know, having a bunch of shit go your way, that doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna feel great about yourself. It's a fundamental, it's a fundamental thing about you having to actually work on it and it, it will help. It will help everything is kind of the point I'm making. So, go out there, find yourself, find, you know, find the, find the gals that are into the guys that you are and they're out there. And then just, you know, eh, little by little, my friend.

• 1:48:10Stavros Halkias?

  And the, it's, remember, life does suck and is hard. So it's like, find the little joys where you can, but you're doing great and be goo- exactly. Kind to yourself, give yourself a little space. Sometimes you're gonna feel like shit. That's okay. Everybody has those days. But we believe in you.

• 1:48:27Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 1:48:28Stavros Halkias?

  Call back when shit's going good. Or bad, if we were wrong and we gave you wor- bad advice, so we can change what we say. Uh, I think that's gonna do it for us today. Mandel, thank you, brother.

• 1:48:38Speaker 04

  Thank you for having me, man.

• 1:48:40Stavros Halkias?

  So good. So good episode. Come back whenever you're, whenever, whenever in New York, or maybe we'll have you on another LA episode if you move out.

• 1:48:46Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 1:48:47Stavros Halkias?

  And, uh, we will talk to you guys next time. Bye-bye.

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