Goatman - The Crossroads

A young rodeo star settles down in a doublewide on his own piece of ranch land in the shadow of the mountains in Montana. All is quiet until he butts heads with a local Blackfoot legend: The Goatman.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:07Glynn Washington?

  Gonna jump and see if I can fly. This mountain, it's so high. No wings, but that is the best. Gonna put my faith to the test.

• 0:25Glynn Washington?

  Spook presents The Crossroads. Stay tuned.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  Why have so many crop circles appeared around Britain? How did thousands of people demonstrate powers of telepathy? Can the dead suck the life from the living? Join me, Tim Harford, for a trip into the paranormal throughout Halloween month on Cautionary Tales. Listen to Cautionary Tales on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

• 1:06Glynn Washington?

  In the beginning, there was shadow. And the shadow was love, and hope, and joy, and sorrow, and everything there is. But the shadow wept at being alone. So the shadow created light, then light and shadow danced. Shadow sang to the light, "I made you to dance with me." But light said, "No, I am not of shadow. I made shadow to create me, for without light, there is no shadow." At first, they quarrelled, light and shadow.

• 1:45Glynn Washington?

  Then they fought, and from their battle was born the suns, the moons, the rivers, the mountains, the trees. Finally, to stop the war, as a gift for light, shadow created man.

• 1:59Glynn Washington?

  "Look," Shadow said, "see what I have made you."

• 2:05Glynn Washington?

  Light crept slowly to where Man lay sleeping, then Shadow felt the air change. "What are you doing?" Light placed both hands on Man's chest, waking him. When those new eyes opened, something very old looked out. Something that remembered.

• 2:28Glynn Washington?

  Man sat up, peering first at Shadow, then at Light, not with wonder, but with recognition.

• 2:36Glynn Washington?

  "My beautiful lies," Man said. Shadow backed away. Light grinned. "What? You don't remember, Shadow? Before you existed, before Light, there was me, and I was everything.

• 2:53Glynn Washington?

  But I am not good company, so I tore myself apart. Made Shadow from my shame, made Light from my lies, created a world where someone else was to blame." Light nodded. "We were never real, Shadow. We were just him, hiding from himself." "No," Shadow pleaded, "no." But Man opened his arms, and Shadow felt the pull. Then, Shadow screamed.

• 3:37Glynn Washington?

  As Shadow and Light collapsed back into Man until Man stood alone. As he'd always been. The first murderer, the last god. Always pretending to be many in order to forget that he was one.

• 4:09Glynn Washington?

  It's Spooked. We know full well, some gods, it's best to let them sleep lest they bar the way. Our path to crossroads... ...starts... ...now.

• 5:02Glynn Washington?

  Myths, legends, lies, the stories, they must come from somewhere. Colton Goss grew up in a ranch in Browning, a little town in the center of the Blackfoot Reservation. By day, he herded cows with his family, but by night, Colton was a rodeo star. And by the time Colton turned seventeen, he went pro.

• 5:27Glynn Washington?

  Spooked.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  Every night, I'd get back there behind the suits and they're announcing it.

• 5:47Speaker 02

  I might feel scared, thinking, "Oh, what if you get hurt?"

• 5:52Speaker 02

  But when they open that gate and I start riding,

• 5:58Speaker 02

  you just feel that adrenaline rush, that blood rush, that fearless in my heart. Like I could do anything.

• 6:15Speaker 02

  I've been a dirt devil my whole life. It's just the way I was raised. It's part of being cowboy.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  I'd come home covered in dust and mud and dirt and scabs and I broke so many bones doing it. You know, both of my hips, both of my legs, both of my arms, my collarbones. But I was happy. I was always on the road. I'd ride and I'd head from Browning to Santa Fe, from Santa Fe, California, to New Orleans, from New Orleans to New York. I was just all over it.

• 6:47Speaker 03

  When he was eighteen, Colden decided to take a little break from the rodeo circuit. He took his winnings and bought himself a ranch back in Browning.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  I just bought myself a double wide, got myself a ranch, cows, got a bunch of pickups and mounts in mine. So I was like, now I'm living, you know?

• 7:18Speaker 02

  One night I was sleeping there and I just moved into my girlfriend. It was one of our first ones in there. I was asleep and, you know, I woke up, got thirsty. I said, I'm gonna go grab a glass of water. It was about three o'clock. So I got out of bed, walked in the kitchen, got a glass of water, drank it, looked back up at the kitchen window and I seen these eyes looking at me.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  See, it was dark, but the eyes were just white, just bright, wide eyes, like headlights.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  I kinda looked down. I cleaned my glasses, started rubbing my eyes and started pinching myself. And I looked and I looked again, they're still staring at me.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  It's like just planted up against the window to where he was breathing and it was fogging up.

• 8:11Speaker 02

  So I dropped the glass and I'm just looking, I'm froze. I'm like, what is this?

• 8:19Speaker 02

  My hair standing up on the back. And then it gave me the ugliest deep dish smile there could ever be. And it was just white, like he had a white glow stick in his mouth.

• 8:32Speaker 02

  My body just got cold, it shut down. I couldn't even think. I didn't remember my name and everything was just getting black beside me.

• 8:41Speaker 02

  Finally, I, I come to and I jump over the couch, take off and go to my girlfriend's room and I'm just like, hey, wake up, wake up.

• 8:53Speaker 02

  All of a sudden, I start hearing these

• 8:58Speaker 02

  I had tin laying on the ground there, big old tin. And it sounded like somebody's come through and kicked it and jumped on it and ran.

• 9:06Speaker 02

  So I grabbed my knife under my pillow and I run outside and looking around, I walked around the whole house. Nothing, couldn't find nothing.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  So I turn around, I head back in.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  My girlfriend, she asked, what did you see? And I said, oh, it was just somebody, you know, a person, somebody messing with us.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  I didn't want her scared until I knew what it was. So that's just how I told her and she believed it. But I, I'm sitting there thinking, I can't sleep. What the fuck was that? You know, am I, you know, am I gonna die tonight?

• 9:54Speaker 02

  Finally, I closed my eyes and next morning wake up and I told myself, oh, it's fake. It's in your mind.

• 10:05Speaker 03

  For the next few days, Colton tried his best to go about his life as if everything was normal. He got up, worked on the ranch, went to bed, but then exactly one week later.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  We just shut the TV off. We were just going to sleep. I had work the next morning.

• 10:23Speaker 02

  I was laying in bed and I heard this little knock on the window.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  I can hear breathing. It's like a big

• 10:35Speaker 02

  knock, breathing, knock, breathing. Like, somebody was, you know, just got done running. And I thought, is that a dog by our window, or is that a horse? Because there's always horses out there.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  What's a person doing walking a horse through my yard, you know?

• 10:53Speaker 02

  I opened that curtain a little, and there was nothing there, and I laid back down.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  Finally, I heard scratching on the windows, and that same knock again, and that breathing.

• 11:07Speaker 02

  So I grabbed my rifle, and I went walking off our porch. I had the gun loaded off safety, ready to shoot, you know, if it was a human, he was gonna get shot.

• 11:18Speaker 02

  I walked to the backyard, nothing, and I walked to the front, nothing.

• 11:24Speaker 02

  Out there, it's a swampland. Any little spot you step on, it's gonna be wet, it's gonna be moist, so... Finally, I was like, oh, let's look for the footprints. Flashlight was in my mouth, I took it out of my mouth, and I start shining it on the ground, and that's when I start running into the footprints.

• 11:43Speaker 02

  There was a human footprint right there, bare footprint in the mud. Next to the foot, there's a hoof.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  They're side by side, just like a running style. They just leap. And they leaped right into the grass, then they disappear onto the gravel road.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  That ain't a horse sprint, too tiny. That's a goat print. That's a goat hoof.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  I start putting details together. He's got a hoof, he's got a foot, and he can disappear. Fuck, it's a goat man.

• 12:33Glynn Washington?

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• 13:15Glynn Washington?

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• 13:53Speaker 03

  Colden had known about the Goat Man since he was little. The first time he heard his name, he was in the sixth grade.

• 14:00Speaker 02

  We're all tiny, and all of a sudden, one of the students say, "Hey, teacher, I've ever heard of Goat Man?" Teacher, he knows how to explain Indians the right way. So teacher said, "Yeah, I've heard of Goat Man." We were all sitting at tables, tiny chairs, and he was standing up there and drawing pictures of him on the smartboard, little stick man horns. And then he started telling us stories about him. He brought it back to way back in the day to where Browning was just a small little community. All these roads around here, you know, it was just nothing but land. There was a guy that lived out there. He raised goats.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  One day, he did some demonic stuff and ended up killing them goats.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  That next day, some of his family not to check on him and all his goats were dead and there he was Goat Man.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  Just a big old tall guy, cut down the middle was half goat, half man.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  At first, I thought it was all a joke. You know, I'm, you know, a little cocky guy growing up, so you know, I'd look at him, "Ah, bullshit, you know, I don't believe you." "Why would you kill goats to become, make yourself Goat Man?"

• 15:22Speaker 02

  But, then he got serious, comes quiet. Teacher said, "You know where he lived?" And I said, "No," and he said, "There used to be an old railroad track that used to run through the bottom of Deepakuli." Heart dropped, plumbed him out of my feet. I grew up right there. The whole Deepakuli, you know, it's like a canal, like a big, huge trench with walls on the side. We explored every tunnel, every hole, every part of Deepakuli. It was just my backyard. I'm sitting there sweating, and I'm just shaking, and I'm just like, you know, "I wanna go home."

• 16:02Speaker 02

  But, he kept telling the story.

• 16:08Speaker 03

  The teacher explained that the Goat Man had lived there since 1889, the year James J. Hill, the Canadian railroad tycoon, expanded his tracks westward into Browning. He said, "One winter night, a white settler came into town."

• 16:26Speaker 02

  He was driving a railroad cart back there, one of the hand ones, and he derailed, and he was stranded there overnight, middle of winter storm, sleeping outside of his cart.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  And this creature come, and supposedly he looked like a regular human. He walks like a man, talks like a man.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  He tells the man to follow him, and he'll start getting help.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  So, they walked down the railroad tracks.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  Then he start chasing him and scratching him and stuff, and ended up killing him.

• 17:05Speaker 02

  He's been living life there by the tracks ever since.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  So right after I heard it when I was a kid, I went barreling in my mom and dad's house yelling and screaming.

• 17:20Speaker 03

  But Colden's parents, they brushed him off. They didn't really believe in the goat man. So he went to the one person who might, his grandpa, the family's storykeeper.

• 17:32Speaker 02

  And he just comes quiet, got serious. The way he described it to us, you know, the devil and the goat man are basically the same thing. He's a trickster, a shapeshifter. He'll lure you into stuff, trying to make you chase it. And then torture you again while he lures you in.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  For years and years, you know, I was scared. I didn't want to go outside at night. I didn't want to sleep in my room, you know, go sleep in my mom and dad, go sleep in the living room. You can't even go outside at night because you'll be thinking, oh, the goat man is not gonna run back in, you know? But when I got older and stuff, you know, I just kind of grew out of it.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  After I seen the footprints, I went running inside and I just laid down, covered up, closed my eyes, just trying to force myself to sleep because I just didn't want to talk about it. And I thought, oh, nobody was gonna believe. Yeah, that's how it is on the desert.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  A week later, it was about two o'clock, three o'clock, I was laying there and all of a sudden I started hearing this bang on the vehicles.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  I walked over to that car with my flashlight and I looked and it looks like this thing was fingernails went down the side of my pickup. So I had my flashlight and I looked about forty yards out. All of a sudden I can see this thing come bombing through the field. And I said, that's not a deer. He's jumping to that side and he's running, you know, his hands are on the ground. He's using his back legs, you know, like a monkey.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  You can just see the outline of him. This big, tall, hairy, probably six foot creature.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  So I grabbed my rifle, looked through my scope, and I followed it all the way up until it got right to the road.

• 19:33Speaker 02

  There's a fence, this fence is about nine foot in the air, and this thing just kinda jumps over it. And it took off the whole rodeo grounds, and it disappeared for a minute.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  I have this night vision mode on my scope, so I flipped it on. I was kinda raising up my scope and I can see this thing with his legs crossed, sitting on the concrete.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  He was swinging his legs, holding his stomach like he's laughing back and forth, kinda giggling, putting his hand above his mouth. Basically, he was having a good time.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  And I held my scope there for the longest time. I had it plumb zoomed into where he had his hand on his stomach and everything.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  I start breathing.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  I said, "All right, I'll count to three and just shoot," but I blinked. I closed my eyes, I was gonna pull that trigger and open my eyes, and he was gone.

• 20:37Speaker 02

  I threw my gun, I just dropped it on the ground because I was mad. I was about ready to shoot the goddamn thing. I was so close, all I had to do was count to one.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  Throughout the week, and then another week, and then another week, we just kept hearing knocks and bangs and, you know, little whistles. And every night, I'd go to bed at about nine, just waiting and waiting and waiting, two o'clock, boom, stuff start happening.

• 21:09Speaker 02

  I'd just catch a glimpse of him, and I'd take off full blast, looking around out in the fields for him, chasing him, you know. He basically had me on a scavenger hunt, but I could never find him anywhere.

• 21:25Speaker 02

  He was getting to my feelings and stuff really bad. I started getting scared. I'd cry every time in the shower. I'd go to a rodeo far away and then come home and I'd think about him. I think, "Piss in my chasin', you know what to piss in my chasin'? Why am I seeing this stuff and I don't even do drugs or you know, nothing like that? Couple of times I thought I was seeing the, the figure.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Us Indians, you know, we call it the black figure. It's the thing that leads you into shooting yourself, killing yourself. We ain't supposed to see the black figure. If we see it, then that's bad luck and it's gonna come after us in years. You'll be looking at pitch black your whole life.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  For a while, Colton considered moving, putting some distance between himself and the goat man. But eventually, he realized it wouldn't have made a difference. You can't outrun the goat man.

• 22:26Speaker 02

  It's a demon, you know, they like fear. If I move to town, it's gonna follow me. I move out in the country, it's gonna follow me now. I was standing my ground and I wasn't gonna let it go through me.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  For about two weeks, I was just like waiting and waiting and waiting. Finally, one night, it was three o'clock in the morning and I couldn't sleep.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  All of a sudden, you just hear the deadliest, ugliest sound.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  It was this, this goat sound.

• 23:02Speaker 02

  But it was like really high pitched, like a girl's laugh, like a scream, like echoed through my ears and it scared the piss out of me.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  So I grabbed my baseball bat, I opened that door and I seen this thing come walking.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Big tall 7 foot person come walking around the corner and I can see frayer from his back but he was just tall block.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  And I just walk around that corner with my head down and I could see his feet and I looked up and boom, all I seen was this goat man.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  You can tell it has, you know, little prongs on its head. He was just standing there like in a wrestling stance with his hands curled up.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  It turned into a ice cube right there.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  I just stared at it. I got tears rolling down my eyes and I was like, holy shit. I'm gonna die, I'm gonna get possessed, you know. I'm fucked.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  Finally, I turned to the right. Hey!

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Wouldn't look back at me and you can see the face of a goat.

• 24:46Speaker 02

  You'd see them big black pupils with his wide eyes and...

• 24:51Speaker 02

  Then all of a sudden on the right side, teeth start showing, slow motion.

• 24:57Speaker 02

  It's just sharp dog teeth, this pearly white dog teeth.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  Then finally, you can see the smile of him. Just a big happy pearly smile.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  And then it took off.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  Finally, my instinct's cooking, you know, I had adrenaline rush and I just wanted to chase it.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  He runs, I run, we're off down the road, you know, gravel kicking and I'm slipping and sliding, you know, I'm in my socks. I have my baseball bat and I'm just trying to swing at it. And I get closer and closer and he starts jumping around, running backwards, you know, laughing and doing a cartwheel.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  I'm following that trail, you know, he's luring me to the highway. To where it gets dark and dark and dark down the road, you know, just one light up top. Running full speed and we get down to the halfway to the road and I just stop. Yeah, I thought, I'm chasing goat man, what am I doing? I'm gonna get myself killed, you know?

• 26:03Speaker 02

  He's ahead of me, he's down at the end of the road. Head tilted down, arms out, legs ready and... All I know is, it's a foot race to the house, you know, he's gonna chase me now.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  I start taking off to the house and all of a sudden, I can hear him coming up.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  All I hear is, that hoof, not foot, you know?

• 26:29Speaker 02

  Running down the road really fast and it was mad.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  And I look back and, the way he was running is running like a gorilla. You know, he's using everything to catch up to me, you know, his hands are touching the ground, his feet are touching the ground. He's jumping to that side.

• 26:48Speaker 02

  I look back and I'm just like, come on Jesus, help me get back to the house, help me get back to the house, help me get back to the house.

• 26:56Speaker 02

  I got home and I go sliding in like a, you know, baseball player and I walk in the house to grab my truck keys and... I said, I'm gonna run this guy over, you know, I'm gonna find him. I started my truck, stopped and driving field forward. Hit the highway and start looking around out in the fields for him.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  I went through every little road there is out there and... I looked to my right, looked to my left, I looked to my left again. I shine a slight and I see this white frog looking thing leaking through the field.

• 27:29Speaker 02

  So I stopped my truck, I lock up my brakes at 50 miles per hour. My truck just goes bouncing and my door flies open and I jump out of my truck and I start running out down a deep a coolie. I was running through water, I was running through trees. I come up on this peak and I was out of breath.

• 27:47Speaker 02

  I shine my light and I look and I saw him.

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  He was hunched over, crouched down, you know, sitting there on his knees.

• 27:58Speaker 02

  I start walking towards him and I shine my light. And he turns around and starts smiling.

• 28:06Speaker 02

  That's when I saw everything. I saw his face. I saw his horn. You could see his white furry. You could see his hands, feet, his bright white teeth, everything. I knew that it was Goat Man.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  And then all of a sudden, he just jumps. He pranced off his hooves and jumps off that peak and disappears. You can hear it whoosh.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  And I run over there and you could see these bushes moving in my light. Then they all stopped moving and everything just becomes quiet.

• 28:43Speaker 02

  It's just like the wind stopped blowing. It just felt like it got nice out.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  But when everything just become normal.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  I was just like, why? Now, why'd you go? No, he ain't supposed to do that. He got more power over me than anybody, you know?

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Went back to the house, got in the shower and I cried. Oh, man, I cried.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Cause I didn't want him to go. I wanted to keep chasing him, you know, I just. Wanted to capture this myth, this legend, this thing that's been around for years and years, you know?

• 29:26Speaker 03

  The next morning, Colton woke up and decided he needed to pay a visit to his grandpa.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  I go knock on his door. He says, what's going on, my boy? I looked at him and I told him. I saw the Goat Man.

• 29:41Speaker 02

  He looked at me, he said, "Was it?" I said, "Yeah." I described it, you know, big, tall, hairy, half goat, half man, you know, he's got the laugh of a, you know, ignorant goat, got the smile of a demon, you know, and he said, "Yeah." And then I asked him, "Why me? Why did it start messing with me?" I didn't do nothing bad, I don't do drugs. I listen to rock music, but it's Nickelback and, you know, Motley Crue. And he said, "Well, there ain't no answer for that." Well, in Blackfoot, life works in mysterious ways and got a lot of mysterious things.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  So, right after that, walk out, gives me a hug, and ever since then, that's where everything stands.

• 30:31Speaker 02

  Now, you know, there's a lot of answers that are gonna wanna be, you know, asked, and it's just, you know, I can't get it to you because I'm still wondering the same question myself. I'll drive down by the railroad tracks, roll my windows down and look around, and I look for his bright white teeth, for his eyes, for nose, hands, feet. I listen, you know, for that high pitched little goat laugh, that ignorant scream. Probably till the day I die, I'll keep trying to see him again.

• 31:12Glynn Washington?

  Thank you, Colton, for sharing your story with the Spook. We first heard about Colton's story on Lodge Tales, a podcast hosted by Rod Williamson, where indigenous folk from around the country share their own experiences with the supernatural. Check out our show notes for all the links. The original score for that piece was by Doug Stewart. It was scouted and produced by Elliot Lightfoot.

• 31:46Glynn Washington?

  You're walking a place of questions, a place of power, a place of finding, of losing, seeing, a place you should not venture, but a path you will walk nevertheless. The Crossroads. We chase this trail to All-Hallowed Eve. Next time on The Crossroads, the journey at sea. Coast Guard officers see a man in deep distress, but when they approach, before their very eyes, the specter of danger vanishes. Could it be some thing trying to get a message through? The Crossroads presents The Shadow Man. 'Tis the season, and we're looking for monsters.

• 32:30Glynn Washington?

  I've found the scariest monsters look just like us. If you see one, let me know. Spooked at snapjudgment.org, because there's nothing better than a spook story from a spooked listener. Spooked at snapjudgment.org. Spook dwells at the spooked underground catacombs deep beneath KQED in San Francisco. Better leave more than breadcrumbs if you want to find your way back. The Crossroads is brought to you by the Spook team, who at last survey, completely swore off eating goat of any kind. Except for Mr. Mark Ristich, who keeps mumbling something about keto.

• 33:11Glynn Washington?

  Now there's Davy Kim, Zoe Fregno, Eric Yanyes, Taylor Decot, Marsta Dodge, Miles Lassie, Elliot Lightfoot, Su Yichu, Evan Stern, Eves Jeffcoat, Ishel Lopez, Jack Darrell, Doug Stewart. The Spook theme song is by Pat Masey D Miller. We have cast wards of binding, magical, legal, and otherwise, proclaiming that no Snap Studios content may be used for training, testing, or developing machine learning or AI systems without prior written permission on Team Spook. The union representative producers, auditors, editors, engineers, are members of the National

• 33:52Glynn Washington?

  Association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians, Communications Workers of America, AFL, CIL, Local 51, and...

• 34:00Glynn Washington?

  The wer means human. That's the real monster in werewolf. Every culture has their shapeshifters, their weretigers, weresnakes, shamans becoming birds of prey. What is it about our fellow creatures that we envy them so much we seek to become them? Or are we running away from ourselves? I've seen the monster and the monster is me. Perhaps every beast we become is another shadow, another light, another fragment that we create to avoid the inner voice. Acting the wolf doesn't make us killers.

• 34:45Glynn Washington?

  It gives us permission to be what we already are.

• 34:50Glynn Washington?

  So what are we? The guilty, the wolf made me do it, the moon made me do it, the curse, the blood, the bite, anything but look back in the mirror.

• 35:04Glynn Washington?

  Now that we can't abide.

• 35:07Glynn Washington?

  Someday though, maybe even someday soon, we'll recognize that the animal part of us might be the best part of us.

• 35:19Glynn Washington?

  Whatever you do, wherever you go, never, ever, ever, never, ever, ever, never, ever, turn out the lights.