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1:15 Speaker 03 This is a HeadGum Podcast.
1:18 Speaker 03 I like my hair. I think I'm beautiful. But if my hair goes, I'm like, that's okay.
1:21 Speaker 04 If you sit here in front of me and tell me that you think you're bald one more time...
1:25 Speaker 03 I said I might go someday. I'm not, you know, I don't have, obviously...
1:31 Speaker 03 Obviously, what?
1:37 Speaker 04 You know, I always do this. I always sit down at people's shit with the bag of makeup and I go, "Just start." Just start. You know, I saw the clip, because I was off social media for three months, but I did see the clip of you telling, I think, Mateo Lane that I'm the only one who's asked for the money.
1:52 Speaker 04 By the way, that doesn't speak weird to me.
1:55 Speaker 03 No, you are right.
1:57 Speaker 04 Everybody else needs to know what their fucking money's doing.
1:59 Speaker 03 They need to get about their business.
2:01 Speaker 04 Rocket money.
2:01 Speaker 03 No!
2:04 Speaker 04 I do use rocket money.
2:05 Speaker 03 Where, do you?
2:07 Speaker 04 The thing is, something you should know about me is I am that bitch who sells out and promotes shit, but I use the shit.
2:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:12 Speaker 04 I cooked breakfast this morning. I made gorgeous eggs and potatoes, you know, a fresh rosemary from the garden. Do you know why I know how to do that? Green Chef.
2:20 Speaker 03 No.
2:21 Speaker 04 I'm dead serious.
2:22 Speaker 03 You're using Green Chef?
2:23 Speaker 04 No, I did Green Chef for so long that now I just know how to cook.
2:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, fresh rosemary from the garden.
2:28 Speaker 04 Well, I have the garden.
2:29 Speaker 03 You have the garden, where?
2:30 Speaker 04 In the yard.
2:31 Speaker 03 In the yard?
2:32 Speaker 04 In the yard. I'm homesteading in Los Angeles.
2:35 Speaker 03 You're gardening? You're gardening in LA?
2:37 Speaker 04 I came to Los Angeles to forage.
2:39 Speaker 03 Baby.
2:41 Speaker 04 I use Darling Daisy. Get it at TrixieCosmetics.com.
2:46 Speaker 04 But look at the makeup bag.
2:47 Speaker 03 This is not, that's pathetic. That's pathetic.
2:50 Speaker 04 Isn't that horrible?
2:50 Speaker 03 I hate that you have that in here.
2:52 Speaker 04 I don't think I see, you know, Norvina, James Charles. I don't think I see the other makeup moguls being like...
2:58 Speaker 03 A fucking hefty Ziploc freezer bag.
3:00 Speaker 04 Hey.
3:01 Speaker 03 How many times have we used that?
3:02 Speaker 04 Well, this just got recycled.
3:06 Speaker 04 This used to be a bag for face wash and stuff, and now it's this. Look at us, holes in it.
3:10 Speaker 03 I can see it, hon.
3:11 Speaker 04 No, it's not.
3:12 Speaker 03 It's not, it's not very glam at all. You got makeup on my couch?
3:15 Speaker 04 Girl, no. Your couch, this is Moona's couch.
3:19 Speaker 04 I've seen them here, okay? I've been here.
3:21 Speaker 03 They rent it from me.
3:22 Speaker 04 Yes, is this okay?
3:24 Speaker 03 You look gorgeous.
3:25 Speaker 04 I just want to wear my, I love this. This is not my product, but I got this RuPaul shirt from her Pride collection, and I think it's like so fucking cute. Don't you think?
3:34 Speaker 03 Yes, yes, it's very cute.
3:37 Speaker 04 She's God.
3:38 Speaker 03 RuPaul?
3:38 Speaker 04 She's God.
3:39 Speaker 03 You know I've never met her.
3:43 Speaker 04 Well, have you ever worked with her?
3:46 Speaker 03 No.
3:46 Speaker 04 Okay, well, you will.
3:48 Speaker 03 I'm trying to, Ru.
3:50 Speaker 04 She's always somewhere, and I just, I'm obsessed with her. I'm not like the other Drag Race queens where I think she's my best friend. I know I don't really know her.
3:55 Speaker 03 Right.
3:56 Speaker 04 And so I worship from afar. I'm obsessed with her.
3:59 Speaker 03 They, they, well, she's got that, um, what is that? The World of Wonder thing, they were doing comedy specials for a second. Did you ever see those?
4:06 Speaker 04 No.
4:06 Speaker 03 World of Wonder did like some 15-minute, 30-minute comedy specials or something.
4:11 Speaker 04 No, the only thing I've watched on the Wow Network, I definitely still have it. I obviously would watch Oh when it came out. And then I watched Fashion Photo Review sometimes.
4:19 Speaker 03 What's that?
4:20 Speaker 04 The Rajan Raven tootin' boot. You don't know about that?
4:24 Speaker 03 Pardon? Sometimes when you talk to me, girl, I'm like, you say, you put words in an order that I'm like, what the fuck are we talking about?
4:33 Speaker 04 Listen, we're in Silver Lake, we're not in Egypt. I know you know what I'm talking about.
4:36 Speaker 03 The Russia run on tootin' boot?
4:41 Speaker 04 No, Rajan Raven.
4:42 Speaker 03 Rajan Raven, yes.
4:43 Speaker 04 They have a show called Fashion Photo Review where they review the looks on the runway of RuPaul's Drag Race and they decide whether they toot the look or boot the look.
4:51 Speaker 03 Okay.
4:52 Speaker 04 And
4:52 Speaker 03 That's cute.
4:53 Speaker 04 Just like a lot of people who are in the know know what it is and
4:56 Speaker 03 No, I'm certainly, I know that I'm not in the know. I know that I'm the one on the outs here.
5:00 Speaker 04 That's tough.
5:00 Speaker 03 It is tough for me. Where the hell have you been?
5:03 Speaker 04 Girl, just been on break, I've been on, it's, and let me tell you, it's been horny.
5:07 Speaker 03 Horny?
5:07 Speaker 04 Very horny. I was really, you know, I started first week of July and I, I, my last little gigs, and then I just dipped and didn't really do any drag or spend any time in Los Angeles for three months. I spent completely off of social media, off emails. Once a week I had a 30 minute Zoom with managers to say yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. And that's it. I watched CNN, played my guitar, did watercolor, went for walks, rode my bike, went to Planet Fitness, didn't, I did, I was, I was Amish. I think Amish people go to Planet Fitness.
5:39 Speaker 03 Amish people are not, they're not in Planet Fitness, baby.
5:43 Speaker 04 You know, I've been watching a lot of the news.
5:44 Speaker 03 Why?
5:45 Speaker 04 Well, because
5:46 Speaker 03 I can't believe you went on a break and watched the news the whole time.
5:49 Speaker 04 Well, every day I would make my little breakfast and I'd watch the news because when your phone, when you're not on socials, it's just people you barely care about saying, how are you? Sounds horrible.
5:59 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:01 Speaker 04 But no, like when I, when I first went on the break, it's like everyone I had sex with once was like, babe, what's up?
6:09 Speaker 04 Girl.
6:10 Speaker 03 I didn't check in. I didn't want to know. I was worried about it.
6:12 Speaker 04 We had sex twice.
6:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, exactly. Correct.
6:14 Speaker 04 No, essay, essay warning. We didn't have sex.
6:16 Speaker 03 We did not. We did not have sex. I'm, I keep trying.
6:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:20 Speaker 03 I'm hitting you up. You're sending me pictures of you on hiatus, holding a gun and shit.
6:25 Speaker 03 Everything I heard from you during your hiatus was deeply concerning.
6:28 Speaker 04 Well, I spent a lot of my break in the South and we had BB guns, not real guns, BB guns.
6:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:34 Speaker 04 Sitting in the backyard, shooting a Diet Coke can, see what happens.
6:37 Speaker 03 Yeah. At one point, you called me a couple of weeks ago and you said, there's a sound you made once in a video that I love. Can you make it for me really quick?
6:44 Speaker 04 Well, can I tell you what that was?
6:45 Speaker 03 Sure.
6:46 Speaker 04 My friend Becca was visiting me. Becca loves you. She listens to your pod every week and she was thrilled when I was on this last time. And she said she loved your Twitter during the COVID.
6:55 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
6:56 Speaker 04 And then she said that you, you said something about Cher or so. I don't know what you did. You made some sound that she loved. And I thought, what if I just fuck her up? I said, oh, let's hear it. And I called you and I thought, she was driving and she was like, oh, and then it hung up and I talked to her on the phone. She loves you. Her name's Becca. You haven't said hi to her.
7:15 Speaker 03 Becca, hey, girl. Well, I'm learning in this moment that you used me like a wind-up toy for your friends, for your friends' enjoyment. Here, I think we're checking in.
7:23 Speaker 04 How do, what do you think it's like to be a drag queen? Every time someone's birthday happens, someone's like, I know you're not on Cameo, but if I'm not on Cameo, do you think it means that I want to make free videos?
7:33 Speaker 03 Cameo needs to be shut down.
7:35 Speaker 04 Girl.
7:36 Speaker 03 We need to shut Cameo down.
7:37 Speaker 04 Cameo is my like, uh, match.com boyfriend who won't quit. Every two weeks, thinking an email from them, being like, hey.
7:43 Speaker 03 Yes.
7:44 Speaker 04 The thing is, I like Cameo. I've received them from Amanda Lepore and I loved it.
7:48 Speaker 03 Hmm.
7:48 Speaker 04 I've received them and when you get them, it's thrilling. If you love the person, it's awesome.
7:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:54 Speaker 04 It's awesome. I got one from Tammy Slaton from Thousand Pound Sisters.
7:57 Speaker 03 Oh.
7:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:58 Speaker 03 I didn't know she was on there.
7:59 Speaker 04 Big gasp over the room over here.
8:01 Speaker 03 They were very thrilled about that.
8:02 Speaker 04 Yeah. And she, I will say, I loved it. I loved getting it. She was a little.
8:07 Speaker 03 Fat.
8:10 Speaker 03 No. Did she lose the weight before the video? What did she do?
8:13 Speaker 04 It's still called A Thousand Pound Sisters. What do you think?
8:16 Speaker 03 Okay, so she's still big?
8:17 Speaker 04 You think every season they change the name, they weigh them again and change the name?
8:21 Speaker 03 They're gonna have to. Didn't one of them lose a bunch of weight?
8:24 Speaker 04 Well, they're both on weight loss journeys. One of them has lost a lot of weight now. She's removed the trachea and, no, the tracheotomy. She's removed the trach tube.
8:33 Speaker 03 Okay.
8:34 Speaker 04 Tammy. And she now has a girlfriend.
8:38 Speaker 03 Lesbian?
8:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:39 Speaker 03 Oh, I love lesbians.
8:41 Speaker 04 I love those girls. That show was great. I think, yeah, I think the level of vulnerability to talk about that level body stuff and family dynamic stuff and put it on TV takes a lot of bravery. And you know, in TV, after five seasons, usually you get to renegotiate. You're like, you know, if you're on Friends, you get like a percent raise every year. And you can't renegotiate. And they just started season six and I literally during my break would go to bed and be like, dear God, can we please make sure Tammy and Amy renegotiate and put the knife in TLC and Twist? Because I want those bitches moving. I want those bitches in a palace. I want them to do well. I just think honestly, in some ways you watch the show because it's like, wow, this is wild, you know?
9:21 Speaker 04 But in some ways it's like, no, that's fucking cool. I mean, look, they've lost weight. They put their family dynamics on TV. One of them lost a partner.
9:29 Speaker 03 Which one's the blue hair?
9:30 Speaker 04 One of them's boyfriend died.
9:31 Speaker 03 Okay. Which one's blue hair?
9:34 Speaker 04 Well, that's Amy.
9:35 Speaker 03 Amy's blue hair.
9:36 Speaker 04 Yep. And I got my cameo from Tammy. And it was thrilling. She said, she said, I heard you're going on break. It's good to take time to take care of yourself. And you know, I gotta tell this, I gotta tell this to Katya too. You work every day of your life in drag and people are like, here she goes again, Miss Thing. If you take time off, oh my God, you are Princess Diana. You are the, the BBC put out an article that was like, struggling drag race star takes a step back.
10:03 Speaker 04 But the picture was like me in full drag at Pride DJing, looking like really, and I was like, I could have given you a more downtrodden photo.
10:10 Speaker 03 Call me.
10:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, call me.
10:12 Speaker 03 Call me.
10:12 Speaker 04 I have so many pictures of me on the phone, of me in like, just a wig cap, which by the way, why is a bald person wearing a wig cap?
10:18 Speaker 03 Right, yeah.
10:19 Speaker 04 But I'm also wearing fake boobs.
10:20 Speaker 03 Right.
10:20 Speaker 04 So what are we, what are we doing?
10:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:22 Speaker 04 If I can pretend to have titties, can I pretend to have hair?
10:24 Speaker 03 I think so. I would like to send them some of the pictures you sent me. I would like to do that.
10:28 Speaker 04 What I like is when the drag queens get the units, the units installed.
10:31 Speaker 03 Hmm.
10:32 Speaker 04 The, you know, glue on male wigs.
10:34 Speaker 03 Oh, okay.
10:34 Speaker 04 And then they put a wig cap on and put on the drag wig.
10:37 Speaker 03 Hold on, what happens?
10:38 Speaker 04 It's a wiggy, it's a wiggyotomy.
10:42 Speaker 04 It's like, so they, they get the men's unit.
10:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, okay, men's unit. Now what is that?
10:47 Speaker 04 So, okay, so people who don't have your gorgeous hair.
10:50 Speaker 03 By the way.
10:51 Speaker 04 Beautiful hair.
10:51 Speaker 03 By the way.
10:52 Speaker 04 Can I just touch a little bit of it?
10:53 Speaker 03 By the way, come on now.
10:55 Speaker 04 It's so thick and glossy, beautiful.
10:57 Speaker 03 I've told you explicitly not to flirt with me on this show. And you keep, and you keep going back into flirting territory. Knock it off.
11:04 Speaker 04 I'm sorry. So the, the drag queens, either they go to Turkey.
11:08 Speaker 03 Okay.
11:09 Speaker 04 And they get.
11:10 Speaker 03 Oh, they're getting transplants?
11:11 Speaker 04 They get the full transplant, or they go down to the clinic and they grow out the side hair, they shave the top, and they get the toupee custom made and glued on.
11:18 Speaker 03 Oh.
11:19 Speaker 04 Which is fine.
11:20 Speaker 03 Does that withstand like water sports and wind and stuff?
11:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, they say you can shower in it and everything.
11:25 Speaker 03 Whoa, okay.
11:26 Speaker 04 But you have to get it reinstalled every few weeks, because obviously you're, some hair does grow back under the piece.
11:30 Speaker 03 Every few weeks?
11:31 Speaker 04 Yes, you gotta go in and get it redone.
11:32 Speaker 03 Oh, god.
11:34 Speaker 04 But you gotta get haircuts too.
11:35 Speaker 03 I know, but just, I, I think I would, when there's glue involved, I think I would just go, I'll probably go bald someday, and I think I'll just go.
11:41 Speaker 04 How old are you?
11:42 Speaker 03 I am turning 30 in a hundred days.
11:47 Speaker 04 I don't think you're gonna go bald.
11:48 Speaker 03 It's pushing back a little bit on the sides. I can see it for me.
11:51 Speaker 04 Is that hard for you?
11:52 Speaker 03 No. No, because you know why? I, because growing up fat, I was never attached to the idea of being like traditionally handsome anyway. So I learned to like a lot of other things about myself. Now, if I like my hair, I think I'm beautiful, but if my hair goes, I'm like, that's okay.
12:06 Speaker 04 If you sit here in front of me and tell me that you think you're bald one more fucking time.
12:09 Speaker 03 I said I might go someday. I'm not, you know, I don't have, obviously.
12:15 Speaker 04 Obviously what? Well, you know, I've, I've, when I went on break, I was 167 pounds, my depression weight. More, more, I've never been so thin and unhappy in my life. And then now I'm back up to almost 190.
12:29 Speaker 03 You're great.
12:29 Speaker 04 And everyone's like, you look happy. You look healthy. Fina Barbatol, um, you know, she's lost a lot of weight and now she's a toxic skinny person. It's amazing when somebody really big gets small, they're like, everyone here is really big.
12:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:41 Speaker 04 Yeah. She's zip, she's zipping me the corset and she goes, when's the last time you wore this?
12:45 Speaker 03 Oh, no.
12:46 Speaker 04 Isn't that horrible?
12:47 Speaker 03 You look happy and healthy, coded. That's coded.
12:49 Speaker 04 Thank you.
12:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:50 Speaker 04 Thank you.
12:50 Speaker 03 You're looking, you're looking happy.
12:52 Speaker 04 You look.
12:53 Speaker 03 Jolly.
12:54 Speaker 04 Healthy.
12:54 Speaker 03 You're jolly.
12:55 Speaker 04 Your cheeks look full.
12:56 Speaker 03 You're looking rosy. Yeah.
12:58 Speaker 04 I don't know, but here we are, you know?
13:00 Speaker 03 And you're back now. You're back from the break.
13:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's been awful. I filmed a lot, well, I filmed the last.
13:06 Speaker 04 Well, I got in drag for real and filmed it. I was filming with Netflix Monday and Tuesday at Prakati, a show I like to watch. We filmed yesterday and the day before, and I forgot about getting in drag for, you know, getting up at 70, getting dragged and still being in drag at 4 or 5 p.m.
13:20 Speaker 03 Jesus.
13:20 Speaker 04 I forgot how, I was like, ah. And the front of the, at the top of the days, you know, we sit on couches like this and we're all like, we're two queens who like to watch, let's watch the show. And by the end, the corset, I'm like.
13:36 Speaker 04 The corset, the, the skeleton locks.
13:39 Speaker 03 Uh huh.
13:39 Speaker 04 The, you know, the, the stiffening.
13:42 Speaker 03 Right.
13:43 Speaker 04 Begins.
13:43 Speaker 03 Stiff woman syndrome.
13:44 Speaker 04 The right arm, the right arm is all, oh, all the signs of a heart attack are starting.
13:49 Speaker 03 Really?
13:50 Speaker 04 The arm is numb from the corset, your slurs, the, the speech is slurring. You're on your sixth Red Bull. You're squinting under your one good eye, trying to watch a Netflix program like.
13:59 Speaker 03 Get rid of the Red Bull. Don't drink that stuff.
14:02 Speaker 04 Who can't check me boo?
14:03 Speaker 03 Me, right now, presently.
14:04 Speaker 04 But why not?
14:05 Speaker 03 I'm telling you to stop. It's bad. Trixie.
14:07 Speaker 04 People, people drink alcohol.
14:09 Speaker 03 And they probably shouldn't, right?
14:12 Speaker 04 Now, what about the vodka Red Bull? That's the death wish, right?
14:15 Speaker 03 Vodka Red Bull is a death wish, yes.
14:17 Speaker 04 When you do alcohol, what do you do?
14:18 Speaker 03 I'm, I drink like, once a year. And I really go at it. I, once a year, you'll see me on an Instagram story and go, "It's the night." Capital T, capital N. And I will go, I'll go deep on Jack and Cokes and vodka Crans. Like, I'm 20 years old.
14:33 Speaker 04 You mix them?
14:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'll go back and forth.
14:36 Speaker 04 That's what you don't want to do.
14:37 Speaker 03 Jack and Coke, vodka Cran.
14:38 Speaker 04 You want to, you want to pick one thing and do that thing?
14:41 Speaker 03 You know what? Two years ago, I got so drunk off Jack and Cokes and vodka Crans at 4,100 Bar, worst bar in America, that I walked down this street in Silver Lake and fell into a bush and stayed there for a little while.
14:56 Speaker 03 I had to stay there for a little while.
14:58 Speaker 04 Oh, my god.
14:59 Speaker 03 I fell into a bush and I said, "I'm gonna be here for a minute." And I stayed in the bush, I called some friends. They said, "Where are you?" I said, "Bush." "I'm on the, I'm in the bush on the street." And I stayed there for a bit.
15:09 Speaker 04 Well, um, you know, you're a tall person.
15:12 Speaker 03 Right.
15:13 Speaker 04 If you're blackout drunk, you're gonna need to call help.
15:16 Speaker 03 I did.
15:17 Speaker 04 Right?
15:17 Speaker 03 I did.
15:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:18 Speaker 03 Someone came and got me.
15:20 Speaker 04 Who?
15:21 Speaker 03 I think it was my friend Sam.
15:24 Speaker 04 Made up?
15:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:25 Speaker 04 Made up?
15:26 Speaker 03 Yeah, of course.
15:26 Speaker 04 You slept all night?
15:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, I slept in the bush.
15:28 Speaker 04 Yeah. I did, well, I quit drinking for like, two years and I started again during the break. I do like it.
15:34 Speaker 03 Okay.
15:35 Speaker 04 But you do, you do get hungover, and that's the bummer.
15:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's not worth it.
15:40 Speaker 04 That's the hard thing. That's the hard thing.
15:42 Speaker 03 It's not worth it. What were you drinking during the break?
15:44 Speaker 04 Um, sometimes I do wine. I got, well, it's summer, I get into the margaritas, the mojitos. You know, I asked my rheumatologist, "Can I drink alcohol?" "I don't." And they said, "You can have two glasses a day." "Two, two drinks a day." And I said, "Well, I'm gay and I'm on vacation." And she was like, "Well, just keep checking your blood work." I said, "Okay, great." "You let me know when I'm about to die."
16:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:01 Speaker 04 Thank you.
16:02 Speaker 03 I'll check in.
16:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
16:03 Speaker 03 You weren't doing bourbon?
16:05 Speaker 04 No, I decided that diarrhea is not for me.
16:08 Speaker 03 Really?
16:09 Speaker 04 Well, I did a little bit of the bourbon, because I was in Kentucky. I did a little bit of the bourbon, but, you know, you can kind of do a splash there. I went to the horse races.
16:15 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
16:16 Speaker 04 The Kentucky Horse Races in Keeneland.
16:17 Speaker 03 Did you wear a big hat?
16:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, I wore a hat. And you had to wear a suit, because I was in the club.
16:21 Speaker 03 Right.
16:22 Speaker 04 The, um, you know, "In the Club," the song? "Party in the club." You know that song?
16:30 Speaker 04 It was like that. "We're gonna party like it's your birthday." "We're drinking a party like it's your birthday."
16:36 Speaker 03 Right.
16:36 Speaker 04 "You know, we don't give a fuck, because it's your birthday." "Party in the club," you know?
16:43 Speaker 04 Fifty Cent, Curtis Jackson? Do you know what I'm talking about? Am I a delusional? Okay, thank you.
16:49 Speaker 03 No, I know what you're talking about!
16:51 Speaker 04 You're like, "What's Drag Race? What's in the club?" Quit this, quit this.
16:55 Speaker 03 I know what you're talking about, but it's the way you presented it. You go, "I'm in the club." "In the club?" That song?
17:02 Speaker 03 It's your birthday? That's how you served it to me.
17:06 Speaker 04 Well, I went there, can I just say, it was really nice. Like, I've, we don't have horse racing in California or Wisconsin, anywhere else I've been. So, I was like, this is a cultural thing, where horses are racing, first sport, people are betting. This is crazy that this exists, right? I've only seen it at the casino when they have the fake plastic horses run, you know what I mean?
17:24 Speaker 03 Right, on the little tracks.
17:25 Speaker 04 Yeah. And so, watching the real horses, when I was like, this is crazy. You know, the jockeys are 110 pounds? Because the jockeys who ride the horses are tiny.
17:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, they're three foot one.
17:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:35 Speaker 04 I wasn't quite prepared for the level of generational Caucasian wealth at the function. The blondness, the MAGA hats. It's weird to see a MAGA hat in general, to me. Although I was at the farmer's market on Hollywood Boulevard on Sunday. And I saw a person I know, or used to know, who used to come to my shows. And they had a MAGA hat on, and I waved, and as they turned, and I saw the red hat, it was like...
18:10 Speaker 04 It was so weird, it's so weird. By the way, I am voting, and I'm voting for Kamala, if anybody cares.
18:16 Speaker 03 You're voting for Kamala?
18:17 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
18:18 Speaker 03 I didn't know you voted.
18:19 Speaker 04 Of course I'm gonna vote, I'm voting in Wisconsin.
18:21 Speaker 03 Oh, good, thank you.
18:22 Speaker 04 Because I have my business in two houses there, so it counts.
18:25 Speaker 03 It counts.
18:26 Speaker 04 Right?
18:26 Speaker 03 I've just voted in Missouri.
18:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:28 Speaker 03 Which will do nothing for Kamala, but I did vote for her.
18:34 Speaker 03 What's up, guys? It's me, Caleb. November 23rd in Kansas City, Waxahachie and I are co-hosting a bunch of our friends, comedians and musicians at the Midland. We are doing a benefit show called Yee Haw to benefit the tenants' union. Tara's episode is out and she talked a bunch about the tenant union. But please, please, please, if you live in Kansas City or nearby, Omaha, come on down. Chicago, come on down. November 23rd at the Midland, we're doing a show to benefit the tenant union that we're so excited about. About me, Waxahachie, a bunch of other fun people that we'll announce. But yes, please come.
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19:24 Speaker 04 I'm gonna vote.
19:25 Speaker 03 I'm gonna vote.
19:26 Speaker 04 Well, I always vote and sometimes voting lands on a day where I'm filming. One time in LA, I voted in drag on the way to set.
19:33 Speaker 03 That's so fucking chic.
19:35 Speaker 04 It wasn't.
19:36 Speaker 03 I would kill to see that.
19:37 Speaker 04 Uh, my voting place was at an elementary school.
19:42 Speaker 03 Tracy, you're just what they're talking about.
19:44 Speaker 04 Girl.
19:46 Speaker 04 So I'm on the way to set. I'm in full drag. I'm in like this shitty, you know, my look shitty 60s dress, shitty blonde wig, little, I have a pink parasol and I'm like, here we go. I go in, I show my ID, which means nothing at that point.
19:56 Speaker 03 Did you take the parasol into the voting location?
19:58 Speaker 04 Of course.
20:00 Speaker 03 Okay.
20:00 Speaker 04 Well, I'm not gonna be seeing the sun.
20:02 Speaker 03 Right, of course.
20:02 Speaker 04 So I show my ID of another person.
20:05 Speaker 03 Right.
20:05 Speaker 04 Right? Don't look like that.
20:06 Speaker 03 This is a man.
20:07 Speaker 04 Sure.
20:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:08 Speaker 04 Right? That could have been voter fraud. It wasn't.
20:10 Speaker 03 Right.
20:10 Speaker 04 Could have been voter fraud, wasn't.
20:12 Speaker 03 It could have been voter fraud.
20:14 Speaker 04 It's a, they said it couldn't be done. And
20:19 Speaker 04 it was huge.
20:20 Speaker 03 Yours is good. I like this.
20:22 Speaker 04 Been watching CNN.
20:23 Speaker 03 Yeah. You've been studying?
20:24 Speaker 04 Well, you know, the day after I left the internet for three months, the day after Donald Trump got shot in the air.
20:29 Speaker 03 God, where were you?
20:31 Speaker 04 I was on the phone. I was like, I'm not gonna watch Twitter. I guess I'll just keep watching the news.
20:35 Speaker 03 I was in London. There was a party.
20:37 Speaker 04 That's your alibi, huh?
20:38 Speaker 03 There was a party at the pub. Yeah.
20:40 Speaker 04 There's a party at the pub.
20:41 Speaker 03 There's a party at the pub, then. Donald Trump's been shot.
20:43 Speaker 04 Yeah. So I'm at this, I'm at school voting, because I was like
20:46 Speaker 03 They're partying at the pub.
20:47 Speaker 04 They're partying, they're
20:51 Speaker 04 They're racing the horses, they're drinking the bourbon.
20:53 Speaker 03 They, they love that I got shot in London.
20:55 Speaker 04 In London. I was in London and I got shot. And when I was there, and you know who was in Kamala?
21:03 Speaker 03 Yours is, yours is kind of giving Trump on barbiturates.
21:07 Speaker 04 And I'm obviously not a fan of his work, but unfortunately, watching the news so much, I see his fucking ass every day now, so.
21:14 Speaker 03 I, you know, it just sucks that he's one of the, he, he really is. Don't want him to win. Obviously, I have a really specific plan for what I'd like to see happen to him quickly. That I won't go into, but he is really funny.
21:26 Speaker 04 Let's take a break.
21:27 Speaker 03 Let's take a break.
21:28 Speaker 04 I just want to make sure that Caleb said that and not me. Great.
21:31 Speaker 03 Yes. Yeah, it was me, not you.
21:32 Speaker 04 You're gonna get chapel roamed like that. It's over.
21:34 Speaker 03 Just so I'm clear, you went to the horse races in Kentucky and were surprised to see rich white people.
21:39 Speaker 04 No, no, no, no. Well, I'd never been. I knew nothing about it.
21:43 Speaker 03 Okay.
21:43 Speaker 04 So I knew I had to wear a suit because it was in the clubhouse. And by the way.
21:46 Speaker 03 I'm in the club.
21:47 Speaker 04 In the club. Um, well, I love Critters 50 Cent Jackson.
21:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
21:51 Speaker 04 Right? So, um, he's so funny. I watch on late night shows, he's always such a funny guest.
21:56 Speaker 03 No, he's a charmer.
21:56 Speaker 04 Because he's so rich, and so his stories are always so crazy of wild things he's done with his money. And he always wears a three-piece suit. I think he's so handsome. I love him. And, um, he's probably not a fan of me, but that's okay.
22:07 Speaker 03 We don't know that.
22:07 Speaker 04 We don't know.
22:08 Speaker 03 We don't know.
22:09 Speaker 04 Um, and I went there and it was like, just, just real brazen, real brazen, young, 21-year-old men in MAGA hats.
22:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:19 Speaker 04 The young, young people in MAGA hats is so, when it's like you're someone's grandpa, it's like, oh, fuck, fucking, you know, old white people, whatever, idiots, whatever, you know?
22:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:27 Speaker 04 When it's young people, it's just like so sad.
22:30 Speaker 03 It is.
22:30 Speaker 04 God, you're, you got, uh, flowered and dipped in the broth, the broth, and deep fried in the racism and the bigotry and the rich, the wealth. Money has padded every part of you. You understand nothing about people who need any. But then, you know, it's not just about money. I went to my hometown, Wasaki, Wisconsin, uh, just a couple of weeks ago. Where everybody probably lives way below poverty line, right? And I saw more Trump signs than I've ever seen in my life.
22:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:59 Speaker 04 I saw Trump signs bigger than people's houses.
23:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:03 Speaker 04 They lived in trailers and the Trump sign is the size of a, you know, and I was just like, wow, you, you, you think that, you think that this person is creating policies for you? Poor people in rural Wisconsin, you think he's looking out for you.
23:15 Speaker 03 It's really nuts. It's not happening. It's like, I can't, why did this guy? The craziest part of his whole thing to me is that he was able to capture poor people. Cause where I'm, when I grew up poor in Missouri, we hated rich people. It was like a thing. Like we all would be like, oh my God, that guy, if you even drove like a Cadillac, we were like, kinda fuck you, you know? And then they all went for this guy who was like the, like quintessential rich guy. I was like, oh, okay. I didn't think we were doing that.
23:38 Speaker 04 It's wacky. But when I, when I had to vote in drag, I remember walking in and I was like, I'm in a boat and I'm not gonna miss it just cause I have to work.
23:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:45 Speaker 04 Right? That's not an excuse to not vote.
23:46 Speaker 03 We can have it all.
23:47 Speaker 04 So I'm gonna go. And then everyone's like, yeah, girl, make a statement. I was like, I'm just busy.
23:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:52 Speaker 04 This isn't, this isn't like, this is just, give me the, let me get out of the elementary school and drag.
23:57 Speaker 03 There's a TMZ article, downtrodden drag queen Casavoe in dress.
24:01 Speaker 04 And I, you know, I've turned a full corner on kids. I used to hate kids and I've turned a complete corner on kids. Because adults aren't that great.
24:10 Speaker 03 No.
24:11 Speaker 04 Think about it.
24:12 Speaker 03 Worse even.
24:13 Speaker 04 Adults aren't that great.
24:14 Speaker 03 I'm saying. Would you ever have kids?
24:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
24:16 Speaker 03 Really?
24:17 Speaker 04 Yeah, absolutely. I was in Provincetown this summer. I went, cause during my break, because I used to do summer residencies there at the post office cabaret. So I went to see friends and hang out with my, you know, past coworkers. And I saw these two gay guys with kids and I was looking at them with their kids and I was like, God, that's so cool. It's like, wow, you have kids. And I said, I really want kids. And they, they recognized me and they were like, so what's your plan? I said, for you to look the other way.
24:45 Speaker 03 For you to look the other way?
24:46 Speaker 04 For you to get a little, and then I was at Main Event. Do you know what, do you know what Dave and Buster's is?
24:51 Speaker 03 Of course I know what Dave and Buster's, I know what Main Event is as well.
24:53 Speaker 04 Okay, so I was at Main Event, which is, but, which is like Dave and Buster's, a little nicer.
24:57 Speaker 03 Nicer, Main Event.
24:58 Speaker 04 A little nicer.
24:59 Speaker 03 It's a little, Main Event, it's cleaner.
25:01 Speaker 04 It's a little cleaner.
25:04 Speaker 04 And.
25:06 Speaker 04 And there was a woman there, it was like 11 o'clock at night, I was there playing pool, because I played a lot of pool on my break.
25:11 Speaker 03 Me and you were on very similar journeys, you and I.
25:13 Speaker 04 I played pool every day for probably three months.
25:15 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:15 Speaker 04 For like two hours a day, I loved it.
25:17 Speaker 03 You any good?
25:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
25:19 Speaker 03 Nice.
25:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
25:20 Speaker 03 Okay.
25:20 Speaker 04 I like to go to the straight establishments and, what do you call it? Pretend to be bad and then take their money.
25:25 Speaker 03 Oh, hustle?
25:26 Speaker 04 In front of their little girlfriends.
25:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, their little girlfriends.
25:29 Speaker 04 I was in Milwaukee playing and I played against this like straight guy and he was in front of his girlfriend and I was playing and he turns around and goes, "Oh, he lied, he's good." And I was like, "No, you're bad."
25:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, are you code switching? Or are you being like, "What's up, brother?"
25:41 Speaker 04 Well.
25:43 Speaker 03 How are you, how are you interacting with these dudes at the pool hall?
25:46 Speaker 04 I'm, it's, it's directing traffic, you know, I don't say much, I'm like, it's a TikTok dance. I point at the table.
25:53 Speaker 03 You're pointing and you're like?
25:55 Speaker 04 Yeah. Totally.
25:57 Speaker 03 Cute. So no, you're not code switching?
26:01 Speaker 04 No, I mean, I think I, do you think I'm really gay?
26:06 Speaker 03 Do I think you're really gay?
26:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:08 Speaker 03 Is the sun gonna rise tomorrow?
26:09 Speaker 04 Damn!
26:10 Speaker 03 Does a bear shit in the woods? Do I think you're really gay? What are we talking about? You're, you started this interview putting on makeup and then you finish it off with a cheetah print hat. Yes, I think you're really gay, Trixie Mattel, famous drag queen. Do I think you're really gay?
26:31 Speaker 04 I just mean, and let me say this too, what I realized on my break,
26:36 Speaker 04 what I realized on my break.
26:39 Speaker 04 By the way, the mental health didn't improve, you know, obviously.
26:42 Speaker 03 It didn't?
26:42 Speaker 04 But no, obviously, no, it did, I'm so happy, I feel great. And I feel very appreciative of the gift of being able to be Trixie, more than I ever was.
26:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:50 Speaker 04 More than I ever was.
26:51 Speaker 03 We're grateful that you're doing Trixie.
26:53 Speaker 04 It's, I just, it's awesome. Three months without it, I was, the first month I was like, "Oh my God, should I just run? This is awesome, that working is awesome." And then by like month three, I was like, "I really miss doing drag and performing and talking and all that and..." Like talking on camera.
27:12 Speaker 03 The vow of silence.
27:13 Speaker 04 Yeah.
27:14 Speaker 03 I'm glad you're doing Trixie. You, I will say, I hope, I hope that in post-break Trixie world, you will do less.
27:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, everybody wants me to do less.
27:22 Speaker 03 I do.
27:23 Speaker 04 We're sick of seeing it. I do think because all my content is on YouTube, if you watch one of my videos, I got you for 18 years, 18 years. On the 18th birthday, you find out it wasn't his. Like, because YouTube will think you want to see everything I ever do.
27:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:36 Speaker 04 So if you watch one makeup video of me accidentally, because it's on autoplay, every day for the rest of your life, I'm like, hey.
27:42 Speaker 03 Put in sync.
27:43 Speaker 04 No, even if you don't want to watch it, YouTube thinks that you want to watch me.
27:47 Speaker 03 Yeah. Well, people mostly do. That's why we're here. That's why, that's why you are as big as you are. People mostly do want to watch you because you're hilarious and compelling.
27:56 Speaker 04 Well, a lot of, some things came out while I was gone, which like, I think Pit Stop was still on when I left. And then English Teacher came out when I was MIA. So it's fun to have stuff come out while I just didn't, I would just get texts from friends, like, watch your thing.
28:07 Speaker 03 Did you get to do scenes with Brian in, in English Teacher? Is that what?
28:10 Speaker 04 Yes.
28:11 Speaker 03 Isn't he the funniest?
28:12 Speaker 04 So funny. I've been a fan of his for a long time.
28:15 Speaker 03 And that show's doing great.
28:17 Speaker 04 It's so funny. Like, he's so funny. I've been a fan of his since Caleb Gallo, and then I watched him on Will and Grace, and like, I love all his little characters with the Snapchat filters.
28:25 Speaker 03 Yes, I'm so proud of him. He's been working really hard for a long time, and this show feels like the embodiment of the thing he was trying to do. I'm really excited for him.
28:33 Speaker 04 It's really funny. I mean, the show, basically, it's like the teachers and the parents are like, you know, their views are way like, oop, don't say that.
28:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:41 Speaker 04 And then the students are so woke. It's like this tug of war he's in as the teacher.
28:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:46 Speaker 04 Which is like, the infighting about political correctness of nothing. Which I think in a school setting is like a great arena for that, because it's like age gaps and, you know. And I got to play, what I loved about it is now when Dry Queens are on TV, the role we get is like, I love yourself, you're fierce diva. It's the magical gay person who helps everyone. And I don't know anyone like that.
29:06 Speaker 03 Right.
29:07 Speaker 04 Gay people are monsters who are out for themselves, especially.
29:09 Speaker 03 Most of all you.
29:10 Speaker 04 Dry Queens are mentally ill, uh, whores.
29:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:13 Speaker 04 Uneducated drug addicts, like. All this like, all this like, we're here shit is propaganda. Ain't nobody helping anybody. Drag queens aren't helping anybody. Come on, drag queens can't even help themselves. You know what I mean? So, I say that as I have an assistant, but...
29:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, a team of six people who like carried your stuff in here.
29:29 Speaker 04 Hello? But, in the show, I was like, he was like, oh, your characters, my characters trying to, Brian was like, my character's trying to prove to the school body that like, not all drag queens are creeps and you're gonna help us put on a part of a football game where you help the jocks learn how to do drag to do a good job. I was like, love that. He's like, but you end up being kind of a kleptomaniac and you're like vaping and you, you know, I was like, oh.
29:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, sounds about right.
29:55 Speaker 04 Cause that's real. If you let a drag queen into a high school, what do you think would happen?
30:01 Speaker 03 Theft.
30:01 Speaker 04 Theft?
30:02 Speaker 03 Theft, bare minimum.
30:03 Speaker 04 Murder.
30:04 Speaker 03 Yeah, murder. Stealing money, hurting-
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30:22 Speaker 03 People. Have you ever heard someone?
30:27 Speaker 04 Physically? I'm not like a fighter.
30:29 Speaker 03 You're not a fighter?
30:30 Speaker 04 No, if you, I've been mugged. I, I lay down and take the punches until they're gone. I don't even fight back.
30:35 Speaker 03 You got mugged?
30:36 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
30:37 Speaker 03 What, what'd you do?
30:38 Speaker 04 I got carjacked.
30:39 Speaker 03 You got carjacked?
30:40 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm. By the way, I'm getting my license again.
30:45 Speaker 04 It's gonna be huge. It's gonna be huge.
30:47 Speaker 03 Do, do you have a Kamala? Did you have a Kamala at all? You're watching a lot of CNN.
30:51 Speaker 04 Hey, I'm Kamala. This is bad. It's bad. It's not good, right?
30:58 Speaker 04 Kamala Harris. It's not good either. None of, none of it's good.
31:03 Speaker 03 My fight or flight is triggered so hard right now. I am so prepared to get out of this studio.
31:09 Speaker 04 Well, you've heard the share. Oh, I'm Kamala Harris. Yeah, she's on a pill too. They're all on pills when I do it. They're all, I don't know what. Well, you know, my, my share's worth, you know?
31:20 Speaker 03 That's not your share.
31:21 Speaker 04 Yes, it is.
31:24 Speaker 03 I'm gonna vote, bitch.
31:26 Speaker 04 It's crazy.
31:27 Speaker 03 Crazy.
31:28 Speaker 04 Crazy.
31:29 Speaker 03 All this CNN and this is what you brought to me?
31:32 Speaker 04 I'm Kamala Harris. I don't know what.
31:34 Speaker 03 That actually, I will say on that last one, there was a bit.
31:39 Speaker 03 And you, so you lost me again.
31:40 Speaker 04 It's Michael Jackson a little bit.
31:41 Speaker 03 And it is also giving evil Elmo. Yeah, it's not giving, the laugh is where you're getting off base.
31:47 Speaker 04 Girl, the other thing I'm trying to do is, um, I, I'm a bird person. I love parrots. And
31:54 Speaker 04 why are you, I'm just talking about myself here.
31:57 Speaker 03 Just the, it's the, I'm trying, I love, I love your mind and I'm trying to go where you go because we were on license.
32:03 Speaker 04 Oh, right. Okay. You're asking if I hurt someone? Oh, I killed someone with my car. Just kidding.
32:14 Speaker 03 You're getting your license again and you love parrots. I'm locked in, you're weaving. It's called the weave.
32:19 Speaker 04 It's called the weave.
32:20 Speaker 03 It's called the weave and I'm doing it beautifully.
32:22 Speaker 04 I'm doing it beautifully. Couldn't be done.
32:27 Speaker 04 I, I really want to get a parrot again because I loved having parrots. Before Drag Race, I had a parrot and I loved it. And it died right before I got on Drag Race, which is kind of a blessing because I don't know what I would have done traveling the world with a bird at home.
32:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:39 Speaker 04 Right? But, you know, now that I want a better work-life balance, I, I want to reengage with, you know, parrots are not like dogs or cats.
32:46 Speaker 03 Right.
32:47 Speaker 04 They're the third most popular pet, but they're the first most rehomed because they're demanding, they're emotional, they're super smart. A lot of these birds are as smart as toddlers and they live 75 years. So you have a 75-year-old toddler who can fly and has razors for a mouth. You know, like it's a crazy animal to have.
33:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:04 Speaker 04 But they're beautiful creatures and I think they're amazing. And I was at this bird store in Burbank the other day called Birds Plus and I was looking at different birds and they have, um, a lot of people's birds being boarded, you know, because birds have to be taken care of, like they have to be fed every day. It's not like a cat, we just, I don't know.
33:23 Speaker 04 Throw dead fish on the ground and leave. I don't know what you do. I don't like cats.
33:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:27 Speaker 04 This one, this person's umbrella cockatoo was in the cage and they obviously are smart and they're, they, they look you in the eye and talk and this person's bird was going, I love you. I love you. And I was going, I love you too. And then I would walk away and the bird would go. La la la la la. La la la la la la. It was so crazy.
33:47 Speaker 03 I don't like that.
33:49 Speaker 04 There was something about it that was like, oh, this bird is killed before and will kill again.
33:52 Speaker 03 Don't check your watch right now.
33:54 Speaker 04 I turned the sound off.
33:54 Speaker 03 Nice. I, what you described to me was like a horror movie.
34:00 Speaker 04 I loved it.
34:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, okay. Are you gonna get one?
34:03 Speaker 04 Well, then there was like, I, I was at this bird store in Kentucky and it was called like Amazing Pets or something, just some, you know, bird name.
34:10 Speaker 03 Right, it's on Birds Plus. That's for goddamn sure.
34:11 Speaker 04 Birds Plus, there's one place in California called Discount Birds, which I don't like that name.
34:16 Speaker 03 No.
34:17 Speaker 04 I don't like that.
34:17 Speaker 03 No, that's not nice.
34:18 Speaker 04 You know, like, I don't like that. Everyone matters. Every bird matters.
34:22 Speaker 03 Right.
34:22 Speaker 04 No bird left behind.
34:23 Speaker 03 Oh my god, she's running.
34:24 Speaker 04 Right.
34:25 Speaker 03 Oh my god, she's running.
34:27 Speaker 04 They're eating the birds.
34:30 Speaker 04 They're eating the birds.
34:31 Speaker 03 It's getting a little more sober.
34:32 Speaker 04 It's getting worse.
34:33 Speaker 03 It's getting sober.
34:35 Speaker 04 And I don't know, I was at the, and there was a cockatoo, cockatoos are so crazy and scary because they're all white and they have big black eyes and they are so emo and emotional and, and scary. And this one was in a cardboard box and he was walking out of the box and then looking at me and then slowly backing back into the box.
34:53 Speaker 03 That's.
34:53 Speaker 04 Like, come in here bitch.
34:55 Speaker 03 That's, you need that bird.
34:56 Speaker 04 And the energy of these birds sometimes is, I won't hurt you.
35:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's all giving scary, Trixie.
35:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:02 Speaker 03 And you talk saying I love you back to the bird really genuinely caused some concern.
35:06 Speaker 04 Well, I read this book called The Family Crucible and they said that we in, in relationships try to play out family dynamics that we saw when we were younger. So what does it say that I like, want to get close to something that's like, I won't hurt you.
35:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:19 Speaker 04 But I'm going to.
35:20 Speaker 03 What does it say? What do you think?
35:22 Speaker 04 Well.
35:25 Speaker 04 I'm opening for Cyndi Lauper.
35:26 Speaker 03 What?
35:28 Speaker 04 In November.
35:28 Speaker 03 Where?
35:29 Speaker 04 Uh, San Francisco and Palm Springs. I'm DJing before Cyndi Lauper's show.
35:34 Speaker 03 That'll be pretty fun.
35:34 Speaker 04 If anybody wants to come.
35:35 Speaker 03 I might. November in Palm Springs?
35:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:38 Speaker 03 Who's to say what I might do? I might swing by.
35:40 Speaker 04 And swim by the Trixie Mattel and have a drink.
35:44 Speaker 04 Have a good, have a pint!
35:46 Speaker 03 Who's that?
35:47 Speaker 04 That's just Scotland.
35:48 Speaker 03 You...
35:51 Speaker 04 All of it. It's all of it. Do you like to have a pint?
35:54 Speaker 03 You're an incredible actor, actually.
35:56 Speaker 04 I know.
35:56 Speaker 03 You really embodied that character just now.
35:58 Speaker 04 Well, you know, when I did English Teacher, I said, you know, Brian, I only know how to really be Trixie. I don't know how to like do, and I only know how to do theater acting, which is like me in a wig screaming, you know? He was like, basically for this show, for this character, he's like, don't play any of the jokes. Just read the line and throw it away, and the more you downplay it, the funnier on camera it will be. And I was like, that sounds crazy, but he was right.
36:20 Speaker 03 That's great advice.
36:20 Speaker 04 I've never done TV act or anything. My assistant has and stuff, and I was like, how do you? He was like, well, the camera reads everything. He said, the camera, if you just think of something, the camera will read you thinking it. Like, you don't have to play concerned. Think about being concerned about that, and the camera will read. I'm like, that's weird and crazy.
36:38 Speaker 03 It's just, it's stripping it all down from the stage back to like very small, basic stuff. Cause you have to telegraph everything on the stage.
36:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:44 Speaker 03 Which you're so used to. But you, like, you know, if you're, if you're upset on stage, you have to fucking throw your arms. But if you're upset in the show, you can just, just let it be in the face, cause the camera will get all of it.
36:55 Speaker 04 I think acting is really crazy.
36:56 Speaker 03 It is really crazy.
36:58 Speaker 04 Did you ever get drunk on the fake wine?
37:00 Speaker 03 Pardon?
37:00 Speaker 04 Do you remember when, do you remember that, like, actors, like, roundup where all these female actresses were like? Cause remember they were all talking about acting and Gaga was like, does anybody else get drunk? When you, like, does anybody else feel drunk when you drink the prop wine? And all the other actresses had to act like that was normal at all to say.
37:18 Speaker 03 I don't remember that.
37:19 Speaker 04 Oh, it was literally like Kirsten Dunst, like...
37:25 Speaker 03 Chris, no, it's like, no, hon.
37:27 Speaker 04 No bitch.
37:28 Speaker 03 No, I'm not getting drunk off the prop line.
37:30 Speaker 04 Did you watch the Joker program?
37:31 Speaker 03 You swore up.
37:36 Speaker 03 The Joker program?
37:37 Speaker 04 The program.
37:38 Speaker 03 The new Lady Gaga Joker program?
37:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:40 Speaker 03 I didn't see it, did you?
37:41 Speaker 04 No, because I didn't see the first Joker.
37:43 Speaker 03 Right.
37:43 Speaker 04 But I love comic book shit. And I love DC and I love Batman. But I didn't watch the first Joker, because remember the, remember the type of person that loved that first movie?
37:52 Speaker 03 Of course I do.
37:52 Speaker 04 I was like, I'm gonna hate this.
37:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:54 Speaker 04 But now I've heard that they hate the second one, so I'm like, I'm gonna love it.
37:58 Speaker 03 You might love the second one.
37:59 Speaker 04 Is that Gaga shit? Line it up.
38:02 Speaker 04 I will follow that bitch to space.
38:05 Speaker 03 I love her.
38:06 Speaker 04 I think we are alive at the same time as, you know, there's people who are just lucky to be alive at the same time as.
38:11 Speaker 03 Name them.
38:12 Speaker 04 Her.
38:12 Speaker 03 Right.
38:13 Speaker 04 Missy Elliott.
38:13 Speaker 03 Sure.
38:14 Speaker 04 Obviously Beyonce.
38:15 Speaker 03 Right.
38:16 Speaker 04 You.
38:17 Speaker 03 Thank you, finally.
38:18 Speaker 04 Honestly, Rue.
38:20 Speaker 03 Rue.
38:21 Speaker 04 And, oh, there's a lot of them, like, Devo, I think we're all lucky to be alive, well, I guess they're kind of like, they were lucky to be alive, although they're all alive. But honestly, people.
38:34 Speaker 03 What do you mean, they were lucky to be alive?
38:36 Speaker 04 Well, I don't know if all those members of the band are still alive.
38:38 Speaker 03 Right.
38:38 Speaker 04 So I can't say.
38:39 Speaker 03 Right. I'm just happy to be on the list.
38:41 Speaker 04 Dolly.
38:41 Speaker 03 Of course, Dolly. Of course, Dolly.
38:44 Speaker 04 You know, Serena Williams.
38:46 Speaker 03 Yes.
38:47 Speaker 04 Greatest of all time.
38:48 Speaker 03 Yes.
38:49 Speaker 04 My god.
38:50 Speaker 03 By the way, you swore up and down before this, before we got on mic, that you were gonna ask me some questions about me. And this whole time, I've just been asking you about the driver's license and it's your second time on the show, Trixie, things have gotta evolve a little bit.
39:01 Speaker 04 Well, who would you add to that list? Like, would you think we're lucky to be alive at the best, the best, best of us?
39:06 Speaker 03 You.
39:07 Speaker 04 Don't do that.
39:08 Speaker 03 You. I mean it. You, um, oh god, Natalie Maines, lead singer of The Chicks.
39:15 Speaker 04 Girl.
39:15 Speaker 03 Girl.
39:16 Speaker 04 Girl. You wanna talk, oh my gosh.
39:19 Speaker 03 I do wanna talk.
39:20 Speaker 04 I listen to that music a lot during the break.
39:22 Speaker 03 Oh, good. Fly?
39:23 Speaker 04 Uh, no, no, they're new shit.
39:25 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, Gaslighter.
39:26 Speaker 04 Yeah, Gaslighter, um, How Do You Sleep At Night, that shit. Oh, um, Taking The Long Way.
39:31 Speaker 03 Taking The Long Way.
39:32 Speaker 04 Taking The Long Way Around. They are so amazing, and obviously, I don't have to tell you what happened to them was insane.
39:39 Speaker 03 You don't have to tell me about it. Have you ever seen Shut Up And Sing?
39:41 Speaker 04 Of course.
39:41 Speaker 03 Thank you.
39:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
39:42 Speaker 03 God, you're so real. And this is, I've been saying you're real and everyone's been pushing back on me. Trixie's not real, Trixie's fake, Trixie's fake, everyone I've ever talked to. But I say, Trixie is real.
39:51 Speaker 04 Everyone also thinks I'm Bill Gates, so financially.
39:55 Speaker 03 Yeah, they, yeah, they think you're a-
39:57 Speaker 04 No, they really do.
39:58 Speaker 03 They think you're a billionaire.
39:59 Speaker 04 Yeah.
39:59 Speaker 03 Yeah. Well, you're not doing bad.
40:01 Speaker 04 Well, last time I was here, I made fifty dollars.
40:04 Speaker 03 Well, you did. I guess I remember I did end up paying you, yeah. I remember you asking, but I'm remembering that I also did pay you.
40:10 Speaker 04 That was my first Apple Pay.
40:12 Speaker 03 Was it?
40:12 Speaker 04 Like somebody sending Apple Cash?
40:14 Speaker 03 Oh.
40:15 Speaker 04 I was wondering where I got that money from the other day, because it's still in there.
40:18 Speaker 03 So you needed it badly, then? You took it from me and you didn't even use it?
40:22 Speaker 04 Well, I'm saving it.
40:23 Speaker 03 Oh, that's so special.
40:25 Speaker 04 Yeah. Oh, I lost a lot of money at those horse races, by the way.
40:27 Speaker 03 Did you?
40:28 Speaker 04 I don't know why people are gambling. I grew up just off the reservation. We're like, if any, like, my mom worked at a casino, my stepdad works at a casino. So I think people who work at casinos are like, what the fuck are these people doing?
40:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:40 Speaker 04 Come here just throw your money away. I don't think I'll ever do that again.
40:43 Speaker 03 Why did you bet on, did you, you bet on horses? How did you choose?
40:47 Speaker 04 Uh, well, I just picked names that were compelling to me.
40:50 Speaker 03 Right.
40:50 Speaker 04 Like, one of them was named, um, one of them was,
40:55 Speaker 04 one of them was named like, I don't know, I was just, whatever in the moment spoke to me.
40:59 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
40:59 Speaker 04 Because the horses have crazy names.
41:01 Speaker 03 They do.
41:01 Speaker 04 They're not like Ralph and Stephanie, and they're not like, they're not like, and they're not like Sea Biscuit and Rocket. The horses' names are like, Love is a Battlefield.
41:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
41:11 Speaker 04 The horses' names are like, The Truth Will Set You Free.
41:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
41:15 Speaker 04 They're like whole sentences.
41:16 Speaker 03 For sure. Ralph and Stephanie would be fun horse names.
41:20 Speaker 04 I also went to a horse farm to see where these retired superstar athlete horses go, where they get retired and then they get studded out, which is where they get prostituted.
41:33 Speaker 03 Right, for their semen.
41:34 Speaker 04 To inseminate.
41:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
41:35 Speaker 04 And some of these star superstar athlete horses, let's say you had a horse and you wanted this famous horse to impregnate, guess how much it is? Minimum.
41:43 Speaker 03 Okay, I want to get my horse pregnant with a famous champion horse. It's gonna cost me, and they're doing everything. They're inseminating all that stuff.
41:53 Speaker 04 And it's a guaranteed baby. So like, it's not just once, they will, if it doesn't take, you do it again.
41:57 Speaker 03 Until it takes. I'm gonna pay 500,000 for that.
42:02 Speaker 04 That's, that's, I think crazy, but it was closer like 250. So thanks for kind of ruining that by overshooting it.
42:09 Speaker 03 Sorry, you just built it up in a way that, oh, horse names.
42:12 Speaker 04 Oh yeah, do you see what I'm saying?
42:13 Speaker 03 Catching Freedom.
42:14 Speaker 04 Honor Marie. Well, uh, uh, Resilience.
42:19 Speaker 03 Grandmo the first.
42:20 Speaker 04 Epic ride.
42:21 Speaker 03 Who would you bet on of these?
42:23 Speaker 04 See that, well, Fierceness.
42:24 Speaker 03 Right.
42:25 Speaker 04 See, sometimes I just wait for a name. You know, the first four races I won money. And then I started getting drunk and confident.
42:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:31 Speaker 04 So then I started being like, hmm, well, and then putting more money down. And then it was like, oh shit, I lost 200 dollars that race.
42:38 Speaker 03 You won 200 dollars because you bet on domestic product.
42:41 Speaker 04 Well, I bought.
42:43 Speaker 04 And well, then I, you know, I'm a lifelong vegetarian. I started to think ethically, like, do I align with this? Do these horses like this? I don't know. I don't know. But I at least got to experience it.
42:53 Speaker 03 I would say they probably don't.
42:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:55 Speaker 03 They're, because they're working.
42:56 Speaker 04 Right.
42:57 Speaker 03 You're on hiatus, they're at work. This is their drag.
43:00 Speaker 04 Well, they're probably watching my YouTube videos.
43:01 Speaker 03 They probably are. Everyone is.
43:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:03 Speaker 03 Well, I just got served to them and now it's like.
43:06 Speaker 04 Everyone.
43:07 Speaker 03 It's in the lineup now.
43:08 Speaker 04 Well, we had guests on the YouTube channel while I was gone, which was nice. Other drag queens came in and did YouTube videos.
43:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, I didn't get asked to participate.
43:14 Speaker 04 Well, you didn't do drag.
43:19 Speaker 04 Mad, mad at me that you don't do drag.
43:21 Speaker 03 Put me in drag then.
43:22 Speaker 04 What would you do if you were a drag queen? Has anybody asked, like, what would your, because I got, we were talking about this before the show, not you, but [BLEEP] love to sit home and watch like Drag Race or whatever and be like, if I was on that runway, they could not take me.
43:35 Speaker 03 I feel that way.
43:36 Speaker 04 Really? It's like, really bitch? You can't brush hair.
43:38 Speaker 03 Right.
43:38 Speaker 04 You can't do makeup, can't walk in heels, you can't dance, you can't tell a goddamn joke, you can't, what would you do if you got out there? I'm not saying you, just like the proverbial, what would, what would you do? Go to an amateur show and that, you'll see what that [BLEEP] would do. That [BLEEP] will put on an Akira jumpsuit and whatever song is currently on the radio that they like, and they walk in a fucking circle.
44:03 Speaker 03 Do you know?
44:05 Speaker 04 They walk in a circle.
44:06 Speaker 03 You know what I would do? I would do, I would dress like the horse from Step Mom. With Julia Roberts and Susan Sarandon.
44:13 Speaker 04 She has cancer.
44:14 Speaker 03 She has cancer. I would dress like the cancer horse. And I would do a, a routine as the cancer horse from Step Mom. That's the kind of shit I'd be doing. That, would, do we, was it last episode with Trixie that we talked about my two drag names? Kayla Barron and Kayla Barron? So there's, okay, Kay LeBaron, one drag name for me. Or Kayla Barron. So it's like, do I want to go classy? Do I want to go trashy?
44:38 Speaker 04 Oh, I like Barron.
44:40 Speaker 03 Well, it's, it sounds like Caleb Hearon.
44:42 Speaker 04 No, I get that.
44:43 Speaker 03 So do you get, do you understand?
44:44 Speaker 04 Barron like can't have kids.
44:46 Speaker 03 Yeah. Do you want to do Barron like that?
44:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, Kayla Barron.
44:49 Speaker 03 Kayla Barron?
44:51 Speaker 04 Yeah.
44:51 Speaker 03 That's kind of fun. Yeah. And I play a barren woman who like, all she wanted was kids, but she can't have them.
44:55 Speaker 04 Do you want kids?
44:56 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
44:58 Speaker 04 I think they're fun.
44:59 Speaker 03 I think they're fun too.
45:01 Speaker 04 And I feel really good about adopting.
45:03 Speaker 03 I think we would be good at raising kids together, you and me.
45:05 Speaker 04 This is moving fast.
45:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
45:07 Speaker 04 This is moving really fast.
45:07 Speaker 03 Well, stop flirting with me and we won't move fast.
45:09 Speaker 04 And I think, I've been talking to a lot of celebrity people about like, they have kids and I go, how do you do that? How do you have kids? And they all go, well, just patience and time and you have to want it. Oh, we also have three nannies.
45:19 Speaker 03 Exactly correct. The help.
45:21 Speaker 04 And I have, I, I'm from a culture where nobody had a nanny.
45:25 Speaker 03 Right.
45:25 Speaker 04 Right? We couldn't afford nannies, right?
45:26 Speaker 03 Right.
45:27 Speaker 04 You just spin the, you know, mobile above the crib and leave the kids at home, whatever. But I just feel like, if I had a kid, I would really try not to have help because why would I, adopting, adopting costs what? $250,000? Might as well get fucked by the horse. You know what I mean? Like? But it costs $250,000 and then what? I'm going to pay someone else to take care of it?
45:48 Speaker 03 Does adopting cost $250,000?
45:50 Speaker 04 Oh, like 200, yeah.
45:51 Speaker 03 Does it?
45:52 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
45:52 Speaker 03 I also love that you said might as well get fucked by the horse. Like that doesn't, wouldn't get you a kid still, like you, there's nothing, there's nothing in that that would get you what you want.
46:00 Speaker 04 I get something I want.
46:01 Speaker 03 Nice. Nice. I like that.
46:05 Speaker 04 God.
46:06 Speaker 03 What do you, I have to ask you this. Uh, overall, 40,000 to 70,000 for domestic infant adoption in California?
46:15 Speaker 04 I don't believe that. I don't believe that.
46:17 Speaker 03 Well, that's from AmericanAdoptionsOfCalifornia.com.
46:20 Speaker 04 A front.
46:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
46:22 Speaker 04 That's a fucking front.
46:23 Speaker 03 It's a front for big adoption. They get you in for 70 and then they fleece you for the other 130.
46:26 Speaker 04 Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's also okay. Part of me thinks you adopt, right? And then part of me thinks, I guess if you want to produce a child too, there's a lot of ways to do that.
46:35 Speaker 03 I'm going surrogate.
46:36 Speaker 04 Okay.
46:36 Speaker 03 I'm going, I'm like asking a friend, like, will you carry, will you take my seed? And will you carry my child? That's what I'm asking.
46:44 Speaker 04 Someone just went, ugh, over there.
46:45 Speaker 03 It was take my seed.
46:46 Speaker 04 What's ugh about this?
46:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, a beautiful gay man wanting to raise a family. My seed repulses you?
46:52 Speaker 04 Do you feel strong about like proliferating your genes?
46:55 Speaker 03 I, you know, no, but I am the last of, I am the last of my, like, if I don't have kids, my name dies with me.
47:05 Speaker 03 Heron.
47:06 Speaker 04 Okay.
47:06 Speaker 03 Like, I'm the last of my name. There's no other, uh, people, uh, to do it.
47:11 Speaker 04 You think that no one in the world is named Heron?
47:13 Speaker 03 In my family, in my bloodline.
47:15 Speaker 04 Hmm.
47:16 Speaker 03 Now, do I actually care about that? No, but my dad did mention it to me a couple of times before he died.
47:21 Speaker 04 Oh, shit.
47:21 Speaker 03 He would, he would just, it would be really random. It would just be like, literally like, we'd be at dinner and he'd be like, and don't forget, you're the last of our bloodline. And I'd be like, okay, that's fantastic. But yeah, so that is, that's present in the mind.
47:33 Speaker 04 That's tough. I mean, I don't, parenting and having children is something that I don't even pretend to act like I know a fucking thing about. I find it hard to be even critical of my own parents or mother or anything because I'm like, I'm not gonna act like I know.
47:48 Speaker 03 Do you know what my mom, Trixie, do you know what my mom sent me the other day? I wonder what you'll think of this. My mom sent me this, uh, TikTok. She's on TikTok now. Um, she sent me this TikTok. Have you on there?
48:01 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
48:01 Speaker 03 She said-
48:02 Speaker 04 I wish she put some clothes on.
48:04 Speaker 03 You're the only one. Her fans love it. She sent me a TikTok that's like a sunset with words over it and it's set to music and it says, "If my children come to me as adults and tell me they need to heal from something I did in their childhood, they won't be met with denial or the feeling of being dismissed. Instead, they'll hear, "I'm sorry that I wasn't more careful with my own trauma, but it's okay to let it go now and hand it back to me."
48:24 Speaker 04 Dang.
48:24 Speaker 03 She sent me, she sent me that no con, she sent me that no context, middle of the day. And I said, "Love you," and she said, "Love you."
48:30 Speaker 04 Well, the older I get, I feel what your mom's saying because the older I get, the more I'm like, "God, I'm 35. If I was my mom, I would have had, I think, four kids right now."
48:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
48:38 Speaker 04 And I don't know fucking anything.
48:40 Speaker 03 You really don't.
48:41 Speaker 04 So I think when we're kids, we think the adults know everything and then you get their age and you're like, "They don't know anything."
48:46 Speaker 03 You're 35?
48:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:47 Speaker 03 I didn't know that.
48:48 Speaker 04 I just turned 35.
48:49 Speaker 03 Happy birthday.
48:49 Speaker 04 You thought I was older.
48:50 Speaker 03 No, I don't think I thought of you as having an age. I think of you as very, um, you're just sort of timeless.
48:56 Speaker 04 You thought I was older. Well, I got a text from my mom. I said, "Forgot to mention, I'm on a new English teacher on FX that started today." I mean, a new show called English Teacher on FX that started today. And I sent a picture of me and Brian on the show. And Aunt Gooch said, my Aunt Gooch, she said, "Intriguing."
49:13 Speaker 03 Well.
49:14 Speaker 04 And my mom said, "Interesting."
49:15 Speaker 03 Well, it is. And was that it?
49:19 Speaker 04 That's it.
49:19 Speaker 03 I love that.
49:20 Speaker 04 That's all they said.
49:21 Speaker 03 I love that you texted them.
49:22 Speaker 04 Because if I'm not on and they, you know, if I don't tell them exactly where it is and how to watch it, I can't, uh, be mad later that they didn't watch it.
49:30 Speaker 03 Right. You care that they see your stuff, though.
49:33 Speaker 04 I want to give them the opportunity.
49:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think that's beautiful.
49:36 Speaker 04 But they don't really care and they don't think I'm funny or interesting, which I think is healthy.
49:41 Speaker 03 I think it's good.
49:42 Speaker 04 Like, I don't know, I don't, if my mom was like, "I want to go on tour and watch every one of your shows," that would be my nightmare.
49:48 Speaker 03 Yeah, we don't want her there every night.
49:50 Speaker 04 No, the shit I say about her.
49:52 Speaker 03 Yeah.
49:53 Speaker 04 About everything, about sex, like, I don't, nobody starts doing drag for their mom.
49:58 Speaker 03 No.
49:58 Speaker 04 You know?
49:59 Speaker 03 Well, maybe these days, you never know.
50:02 Speaker 04 Oh, well, the, the, the girls, the girls are, well, Katya and I are at the age now in drag where people are like, "I start, I started doing drag because I watched you in middle school."
50:09 Speaker 03 How does that feel?
50:10 Speaker 04 Horrible.
50:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:12 Speaker 04 Horrible.
50:13 Speaker 03 I can imagine, yeah. I don't like the idea that you and Katya are molding the future, like the youth.
50:20 Speaker 04 Well, sometimes I hear shit that we've said on the shows, parroted by someone who doesn't know who we are. They just heard that phrase through the world.
50:28 Speaker 03 Yeah. Oh, and you're hearing them say it in a way that's like, they're not telling it to you.
50:31 Speaker 04 They just heard it in the world. And I'm like, they don't know that it came from my loins.
50:35 Speaker 03 What? It's born of my seed.
50:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, born of my seed. I went to Cracker Barrel.
50:41 Speaker 03 Okay.
50:42 Speaker 04 I heard you and Brittany talk about it.
50:43 Speaker 03 I love Cracker Barrel.
50:44 Speaker 04 It was delicious.
50:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, right?
50:45 Speaker 04 It was a Sunday. There was lots of families there, probably were at church.
50:50 Speaker 03 I'm gonna cry.
50:51 Speaker 04 Lots of iPad kids, which always, I don't, I don't wanna say I'm Amish. I don't wanna say what I would do if I was a parent.
50:55 Speaker 03 Right.
50:56 Speaker 04 The iPad kid thing, girl, get the f**k off the TV.
50:59 Speaker 03 Get the f**k off the TV. I'm not watching that. Yeah, exactly.
51:02 Speaker 04 Yes. Whatever happened to the burping? Whatever happened to, you know, what if happened to kids sitting bored?
51:09 Speaker 03 Whatever happened to the burping?
51:11 Speaker 04 Do you know how much of my childhood I spent bored?
51:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
51:14 Speaker 04 What if I have a bored?
51:15 Speaker 03 I have a question for you.
51:16 Speaker 04 What?
51:17 Speaker 03 Are you gonna relax after this break now, do you think?
51:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, like, right now, I work only every other week. Like, I just flat out, during my break, started blocking off whole months of the, whole weeks of the calendar. And then next, next summer, I'm probably taking off again three months.
51:31 Speaker 03 Really?
51:31 Speaker 04 Yeah. Girl, drag is cute. It's not, it's not, it's not that serious. We're not heart surgeons, we're not Jim Kind of Plains. My workaholism ran so deep and so crazy that I got so sick and lost so much weight and just cried all the time. And I was like, what are we doing? This is disrespectful to the art form. It's disrespectful to myself, and most importantly, to people that choose to watch me. It's sick to sit down here in a wig and not enjoy it. It's sick to cover up that you're tired and that you don't feel funny that day. And like, it's, it's sad. It's sad. I started to feel like a Trixie impersonator. I put on the blonde wig and the little dress and go say the shit and go home and be like, I felt nothing. That was sad, you know?
52:10 Speaker 03 I do, absolutely, I know.
52:11 Speaker 04 And I don't ever wanna do that again. So, I think Trixie has an industrial complex. I'm okay to let that kinda go away. I mean, I used to be an artist and I just felt like for the last couple of years, I was like, a product.
52:23 Speaker 03 Are you feeling artistic again now?
52:24 Speaker 04 Very much so.
52:25 Speaker 03 Yeah?
52:25 Speaker 04 Very much so. I love to talk and do comedy. I play my guitar and sing all the time again. Um, getting ready for some DJ dates coming up and just not overworking.
52:35 Speaker 03 What are you singing lately?
52:37 Speaker 04 Well, I'm writing a bunch of new music because on my break, I just had, I was Amish. So I just had my guitar and nothing to do and I would just, I was writing like a song a day.
52:45 Speaker 03 Really?
52:46 Speaker 04 It'd come out like a sneeze, sit down and write it out and then move on. Plus, I made this rule for myself where I'd be like, if you have a song idea, don't get up until it's done. And then because of DJing, I got a lot more into musical production. So this time around, writing the music, I know how to use my music production software. So I can burn out demos with, my, my old way was very analog. I would just sit with the iPhone microphone and play the song and send it away to, what do you think of this? Should we make this, you know?
53:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
53:11 Speaker 04 And now I just have a lot more fun experimenting, playing different music, synthesizers and. Also DJing really scrambled my understanding of music, you know? In drag, everything is a regurgitation and a reflection of culture and something else. And in DJing, everything's like collage. It's a bunch of sounds put together to make a new sound. And I think my approach to writing music, I've gotten less precious about it. Doesn't have to be good because good doesn't mean anything. Nothing about what we're doing as artists, making something good means nothing. It means nothing because what is good? Everybody thinks something different is good. Your favorite song is someone else's least favorite song.
53:49 Speaker 03 Yeah.
53:50 Speaker 04 My least favorite song of all time is Hey Ya by OutKast. People love that song.
53:54 Speaker 03 Why do you hate it?
53:56 Speaker 04 Um, there's one part of it that drives me nuts. The part where it's like, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. I can't stand it.
54:06 Speaker 03 You don't think it's kind of fun?
54:10 Speaker 03 All right, all right, all right, all right. Like that drove you crazy just now?
54:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:15 Speaker 03 Damn, damn, I hate to hear that. I think that's a, I think that's a great song. So your point is well taken.
54:20 Speaker 04 That's what I'm saying. I know that there's something wrong with me for not liking that song.
54:23 Speaker 03 Right.
54:24 Speaker 04 I know that that's just a weird, I find that thing weirdly annoying.
54:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's okay.
54:28 Speaker 04 And so, do you think that OutKast thinks that song is not good? Because I don't think it's good? Of course not. It doesn't matter.
54:36 Speaker 03 Do you think, do you think OutKast would like playing that song? Do you like, do, okay.
54:39 Speaker 04 I bet he has a, I bet live people.
54:41 Speaker 03 I bet it's nuts.
54:42 Speaker 04 Do, do, do, I do like that part of the song.
54:47 Speaker 04 That little thing, I like that.
54:48 Speaker 03 What part of the song is that? I don't think I know it.
54:50 Speaker 04 It's like a little toy piano part in the background.
54:54 Speaker 04 It came out when I think was in high school, so I remember like hearing it just all the time.
54:58 Speaker 03 I was really, really addicted when I was younger to their song Roses. Your roses really smell like.
55:05 Speaker 04 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
55:06 Speaker 03 I liked that song.
55:08 Speaker 04 When I was a kid, I remember reading an interview with the Spice Girls and all the Spice Girls had to answer what song is their least favorite song? And I remember Victoria Beckham, Posh Spice saying that she hated the B52's Love Shack.
55:19 Speaker 03 Whoa.
55:19 Speaker 04 And I remember being like, I didn't think anyone hated this song. And that's like a lifelong thing of like, wow, some people just hate something that other people love.
55:28 Speaker 03 Yeah. What's? Go ahead.
55:31 Speaker 04 One of my other big ones is, did you know 27 record labels passed on Joan Jett's I Love Rock and Roll? Cause they said it wasn't a hit.
55:39 Speaker 03 Damn. Did you know that Walt Disney was fired from his first job at a newspaper? Cause he lacked creativity?
55:47 Speaker 03 And Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team.
55:49 Speaker 04 I love shit like that.
55:52 Speaker 04 I love shit like that.
55:53 Speaker 03 I do. I actually unironically do too. Are you following Horse Mafia?
55:57 Speaker 04 No.
55:57 Speaker 03 You gotta get on Horse Mafia. You gotta get on Horse Mafia on Instagram. They're posting shit every day.
56:03 Speaker 04 Is it about horses?
56:04 Speaker 03 Honey, in some ways, yes, but no, it's like they'll post like every, every single day they make like seven posts, custom posts a day. And they'll be like shit like this. Grown means nothing as a mother, a child is a child, they get bigger, older, but grown in a mother's heart, each will always be her baby. Or they'll post like, happy Wednesday, time to get up and have a coffee and say our prayers. Find me a daily one.
56:24 Speaker 04 Do you follow that guy who's like a corporate guy? He's like, hey guys.
56:28 Speaker 03 This one, oh, go back, go back, go back, go back. My prayer for this Wednesday is that my family and friends stay safe, happy and healthy. And it's got a little. What do you think of that?
56:38 Speaker 04 I'm going back on break.
56:40 Speaker 03 Okay. Okay.
56:42 Speaker 04 I follow this guy, well, I don't know what his name is, because he always shows up on my feed and because. He says, um. He's like a corporate guy and he'll be like, hey, guys, today's the day.
56:51 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
56:51 Speaker 04 Go in, hustle, give it 110%.
56:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, I know this guy. The face is what did it. Yeah.
56:55 Speaker 04 He's got like spiky dark hair and really spacey little teeth.
56:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
56:59 Speaker 04 And I just, I can't help but love the energy because it's like so misplaced.
57:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:05 Speaker 04 That level of enthusiasm for corporate life, I think, is wild.
57:07 Speaker 03 It is wild.
57:08 Speaker 04 But honestly, he's going to work and excited about it. He's got it figured out.
57:14 Speaker 03 He's got to get it. You got to get it up one way or another.
57:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:17 Speaker 03 One way or another, it's got to get up.
57:19 Speaker 04 Hey, guys, today's the day. Go in, give it 110%.
57:22 Speaker 03 And then Trump. And then would you do Trump?
57:24 Speaker 04 Uh, yeah, no.
57:28 Speaker 03 Wait, wait, wait, no. What was that starting as? Ew, what are you guys doing here? That's what it was going into.
57:34 Speaker 04 They gave it 110%. They said it couldn't be done.
57:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:37 Speaker 04 But it was done and it was huge.
57:39 Speaker 03 You love, you love huge and you love they said it couldn't be done. Those are your.
57:43 Speaker 04 It was great. Everything about it was great, even better than China.
57:47 Speaker 03 Yeah. You're good.
57:49 Speaker 04 It's not good.
57:50 Speaker 03 It is.
57:50 Speaker 04 And I hate that I've consumed enough content by way of watching the news that I know about that.
57:55 Speaker 03 What's your favorite Trump moment of all time?
57:58 Speaker 04 I don't, I just, I don't have one.
58:00 Speaker 03 I do. I do. It's, I've said it before.
58:03 Speaker 04 He said that he participated in a peaceful transfer of power last time.
58:06 Speaker 03 Yeah, pretty cool.
58:08 Speaker 04 Love delusion.
58:08 Speaker 03 Because he did.
58:09 Speaker 04 Love fantasy.
58:10 Speaker 03 Pretty cool.
58:10 Speaker 04 I love storytelling. When he says shit like that, it's like, woo. We're watching an animated, just made up fantasy situation.
58:19 Speaker 03 I love when you sing.
58:20 Speaker 04 Thank you.
58:21 Speaker 03 I do. My favorite is when he told the photographers at his and Kim Jong Un's meeting, uh, make us look thin and handsome.
58:29 Speaker 03 He told the press pool with Kim Jong Un to make them look thin and handsome. That's, I'm sorry, but that's awesome.
58:37 Speaker 04 It's so, make, make me look handsome. Bitch, you look like you have barbecue sauce on your face. What are you talking about?
58:43 Speaker 03 Kim Jong Un was literally like. Couldn't, even Kim Jong-un was like, "This guy's nuts."
58:50 Speaker 04 Should we leave?
58:51 Speaker 03 Should we leave? Should we get out of here? Hey, we got a voicemail. Put those headphones on, I beg of you.
58:55 Speaker 04 Okay, sorry.
58:55 Speaker 03 You got a pair over there?
58:56 Speaker 04 And by the way, I probably sound, um, overtly political. I just think it's important to tell people that I'm voting, that's all.
59:03 Speaker 03 No, I like that you're voting. I like that you're voting for Kamala, I did as well.
59:06 Speaker 04 Hell yeah.
59:07 Speaker 03 I already voted.
59:08 Speaker 04 Hell yeah.
59:08 Speaker 03 Did I tell you that?
59:09 Speaker 04 Well, it's not the perfect candidate. Really, bitch, if you were outside and you were freezing, which is our situation right now, would you not put on the winter coat because it wasn't the one you wanted?
59:17 Speaker 03 Right.
59:18 Speaker 04 Put the winter coat on, bitch.
59:19 Speaker 03 You're real as fuck.
59:20 Speaker 04 Star Wars, cut open the animal crawl inside.
59:22 Speaker 03 Oh.
59:23 Speaker 04 Does that happen in Star Wars?
59:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
59:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
59:25 Speaker 03 But I don't know if it feels...
59:26 Speaker 04 I've never seen it.
59:27 Speaker 03 It's fun to talk to you in these. Wait, what's the voicemail?
59:30 Speaker 05 Hi Caleb, so true, um, and esteemed guest, thanks for, thanks for just being y'all. I have a question about contemporary art, mostly what is it? Um, who is Jeff Koons? Who is Banksy?
59:42 Speaker 03 Oh god.
59:43 Speaker 05 Where do NFTs fall within all of this? I don't understand it. So if y'all could shed some light, that would be super great. Thanks again, love you, bye sweetie.
59:53 Speaker 03 Well, love their energy. You know Jeff Koons?
59:56 Speaker 04 I do not know what you're talking about. I don't know what any of this is.
59:59 Speaker 03 Jeff Koons is that, I almost put artist in quotes, which is, would be mean, but Jeff Koons is the guy who made like, the sculpture of the, uh, balloon animal dog.
1:00:11 Speaker 04 Oh, they sell at the airport.
1:00:13 Speaker 03 He does those things.
1:00:14 Speaker 04 They sell at the airport?
1:00:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, this, Jeff Koons, I don't like his stuff. I don't like it, he makes me mad, I don't like the bunnies, I don't like his stuff. I don't like his stuff. I don't like his stuff. I don't think he's, I don't think he's fun, I don't like it, I fucking hate that. I hate Jeff Koons. Like, I don't like his stuff. Like, and you look at him too, he's like, "Oh god." I just don't like him, I'm sorry, I, there's, I'm a hater about him.
1:00:40 Speaker 04 Show me that yellow picture, he looks pump-tinaigalera. Is he an F-word? He's gotta be, right?
1:00:45 Speaker 03 There's no chance he's not, right?
1:00:47 Speaker 04 Girl.
1:00:48 Speaker 03 City.
1:00:49 Speaker 04 Girl.
1:00:49 Speaker 03 And he's the chancellor.
1:00:53 Speaker 03 He's the chancellor of city. A gay guy to his, yeah, I just don't like his work. What do you think? Are you, is it moving you?
1:01:00 Speaker 04 You know, honestly, one of my worst traits is that I have almost no connection to the world of visual arts. I didn't enjoy art classes in high school. I don't like going to art museums. It just does not stimulate me. So like gun to my head, I could not tell you what art is good or bad. I don't know.
1:01:15 Speaker 03 I'm not interested in good or bad. I do think art should evoke, I mean, you know, his art does evoke emotion in me. It pisses me off.
1:01:22 Speaker 04 Can I say that in art, I like when people play with scale. I like giant things that usually are small and small things that are usually giant. I love, I just said the Milwaukee, um, the Milwaukee Discovery World and they have a tiny version of Milwaukee. I love like a tiny version of the city.
1:01:38 Speaker 03 And I love over it. Sometimes they'll put those in like a glass floor and you can walk on top of the small city. Wouldn't that be fun though? I've been to one of those.
1:01:46 Speaker 04 Didn't get to do that, but then I also love when it's a small thing. They make giant.
1:01:50 Speaker 03 Yeah. You ever been to the world's largest rocking chair?
1:01:53 Speaker 04 No.
1:01:54 Speaker 03 A lot of fun. It's big.
1:01:56 Speaker 04 Wow.
1:01:57 Speaker 03 It's big. It's way bigger than you'd think.
1:01:59 Speaker 04 Oh, my God.
1:02:00 Speaker 03 It's way bigger than you'd think. Illinois, is it in Illinois?
1:02:03 Speaker 04 I bet it's huge.
1:02:04 Speaker 03 Oh, it's massive. You, you're going to go into it thinking like, oh, it's a rocking chair, but it's big. Honey, it's bigger than you even think.
1:02:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, I don't, I don't really care for that.
1:02:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:02:14 Speaker 04 Um, and Banksy, I mean, I'm my only, my only, um, response to that is I, I've seen the video of someone buying the art. And then the second the art gets purchased, it shreds itself. Do you know about that?
1:02:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:02:27 Speaker 04 I think that's cool.
1:02:28 Speaker 03 I think that is pretty cool.
1:02:29 Speaker 04 I think it's funny to take people's money and then do this.
1:02:32 Speaker 03 Yeah. Banksy in general feels a little like 2012, what are we doing? But that is pretty cool. I like, I like making someone waste a bunch of money. I think that's funny.
1:02:43 Speaker 04 Yeah. I mean, it's like when makeup brands have mystery boxes.
1:02:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:02:46 Speaker 04 Here's your brown lip balm or whatever, you know, like I don't, whatever they're putting in there, random shit. You don't know what it is.
1:02:51 Speaker 03 You gonna do one?
1:02:53 Speaker 04 You know, I hate to be a hater because I bet in some of these mystery boxes, you do get great shit.
1:02:58 Speaker 03 Yeah. Well, it's like when you go to the thrift shop and they, or the, like a clothes sale and they're like, oh, here's just random mystery bag in your size.
1:03:06 Speaker 04 Right.
1:03:06 Speaker 03 Like Big Butte will do that sometimes.
1:03:07 Speaker 04 I don't know if I would like that. I don't want to miss makeup mystery box and I don't want a clothing mystery box. I'd rather just have less, but know what I'm gonna get.
1:03:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:14 Speaker 04 Same with, that's why I have a problem with gambling. You're gonna throw away money because you might get money.
1:03:19 Speaker 03 You just did that.
1:03:20 Speaker 04 But I wanted to experience the culture.
1:03:21 Speaker 03 Yeah, it was a cultural thing.
1:03:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, and I went in with $400 cash and I, I had enough to drink and then go home, so I don't know.
1:03:29 Speaker 03 That's pretty beautiful.
1:03:30 Speaker 04 It was fine. I, I, I liked it and I would go like once a year for the culture of it.
1:03:35 Speaker 03 What have you, what's something you've loved recently?
1:03:38 Speaker 04 Oh my gosh. Well, the Gypsy Rose Blanchard Life After Lockup Show.
1:03:42 Speaker 03 Oh, is that?
1:03:42 Speaker 04 Awesome.
1:03:43 Speaker 03 She has a reality show?
1:03:44 Speaker 04 Yeah, so it starts with literally the cameras following her getting out of jail and going to buy shoes because she's leaving jail with no belonging.
1:03:50 Speaker 03 Do you know how connected I am to her? She did her that murder in the town where I went to college. And then she was locked up at the women's prison that my mom used to work at in my hometown.
1:04:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:01 Speaker 03 I'm very connected.
1:04:03 Speaker 04 I loved, I love Love is Blind.
1:04:05 Speaker 03 I've never seen it.
1:04:06 Speaker 04 Okay, Love is Blind is awesome. It's a show where they have, it would be like me and you dating.
1:04:11 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:04:11 Speaker 04 And there's a wall between you and we can't see each other.
1:04:13 Speaker 03 Right.
1:04:14 Speaker 04 And so we have to fall in love just based on our voices.
1:04:17 Speaker 03 Wouldn't like that.
1:04:18 Speaker 04 You can't say what you look like, can't say how tall you are, um, what you weigh, your ethnicity, how long your, like, you can't say I have long hair, you can't say anything. It's, it's just, what are your beliefs? Do you want children? What is your sense of humor, the sound of your voice? And it's an experiment to see whether or not people can fall in love without their, their maybe proclivity for their usual type getting in the way.
1:04:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:39 Speaker 04 Because a lot of times they fall in love being like, I would have never talked to you in a bar.
1:04:42 Speaker 03 They.
1:04:42 Speaker 04 But I love you.
1:04:43 Speaker 03 They do. Do you think they're genuinely falling in love?
1:04:45 Speaker 04 Multiple people a season get married.
1:04:47 Speaker 03 Well, wait, oh, you know what we have?
1:04:49 Speaker 04 I'm gonna win more money.
1:04:51 Speaker 03 Trixie, I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna tell you, okay, I'm gonna tell you 15 statements. You're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if you think they're true or false.
1:04:57 Speaker 04 Do you know why I win this?
1:04:58 Speaker 03 Why?
1:04:59 Speaker 04 Because I'm, you know, I'm like part psychic. And by part, I mean whole thing.
1:05:06 Speaker 03 What?
1:05:08 Speaker 04 I'm dead serious.
1:05:09 Speaker 03 What do you mean?
1:05:10 Speaker 04 I'm very intuitive.
1:05:10 Speaker 03 I think you're intuitive, but you're not a whole psychic, I don't think.
1:05:14 Speaker 04 What part?
1:05:15 Speaker 03 What?
1:05:16 Speaker 04 Well, if not whole, then how much?
1:05:18 Speaker 03 How much psychic? I would say maybe if you, I think you do have really strong intuition. I think you're somebody who knows the world and pays attention. I would say if I were to make that a percentage psychic, maybe you're like 25% psychic.
1:05:32 Speaker 04 Do you think if I work with the FBI, I could find a dead body?
1:05:34 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:05:35 Speaker 04 I do too.
1:05:36 Speaker 03 I think-
1:05:36 Speaker 04 I'm dead serious.
1:05:37 Speaker 03 You'd be good in a Mindhunter situation.
1:05:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, let's say someone was murdered and this was their cup of coffee. I think I could be like, hmm, they're in Sarasota, Florida.
1:05:44 Speaker 03 Right, so that I don't believe.
1:05:46 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:05:46 Speaker 03 That's where I would cut you off.
1:05:47 Speaker 04 Right.
1:05:48 Speaker 03 And I would say you're, I would say maybe if we had a little bit more evidence, you would get there.
1:05:52 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:05:53 Speaker 03 You're hurt.
1:05:55 Speaker 04 When you die, I guess I'm just not gonna find you.
1:05:56 Speaker 03 No, don't say that. What if they need your help?
1:06:01 Speaker 04 Okay, I'll find you.
1:06:01 Speaker 03 Nice. I'm gonna tell you 15 statements, you're gonna tell me as quick as you can if they're true or false. If you get 10 or more correct, you're gonna get 50 US dollars. You're the only person who's ever asked for the money.
1:06:10 Speaker 04 Why is that like so crazy?
1:06:12 Speaker 03 I just think it's really funny.
1:06:13 Speaker 04 I'm sorry, all these other people are ballin'. I don't need 50 dollars.
1:06:15 Speaker 03 Every single one of them has less money than you.
1:06:21 Speaker 03 Okay, here we go.
1:06:22 Speaker 04 My Uber to Birds Plus of the day was $33 there and back. That's $66 to look at Birds and say, "I love you."
1:06:30 Speaker 03 And you were talking back to them, which I do wanna talk about off camera. Okay, human teeth are the only body part that can't heal themselves.
1:06:36 Speaker 04 That's true.
1:06:36 Speaker 03 True. The Green Bay Packers won the first Super Bowl.
1:06:39 Speaker 04 That's true.
1:06:41 Speaker 03 True. Baby rabbits are called cubs.
1:06:44 Speaker 04 Not true.
1:06:44 Speaker 03 False. Kits. The longest time between twins being born was 90 days.
1:06:48 Speaker 04 That's true.
1:06:49 Speaker 03 That's true. Ken Doll's full name is Ken Richard Dollaway.
1:06:52 Speaker 04 Not true.
1:06:53 Speaker 03 False. Kenneth Sean Carson. The airplane was invented in Kitty Hawk, South Carolina.
1:07:00 Speaker 04 False.
1:07:00 Speaker 03 It's false, it's North Carolina. The Spanish National Anthem has no lyrics.
1:07:09 Speaker 04 True.
1:07:10 Speaker 03 It's true.
1:07:10 Speaker 04 Fuck! All you fucking [bleep] can all fucking doubt me and my fucking powerful mind. All of you sat here and all of you, wait, is there more left?
1:07:21 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:07:24 Speaker 03 There's so many more left. There's so many more left. Facebook is older than Timothy Chalamet.
1:07:32 Speaker 04 That's true.
1:07:32 Speaker 03 That's false. The current [bleep] pride, pride begets a major downfall. That is so, you were on a roll. The current city manager for Palm Springs, California is Scott Stiles.
1:07:42 Speaker 04 Ah, true.
1:07:44 Speaker 03 True. Will Ferrell's character on The Office was named D'Angelo Nightwood.
1:07:48 Speaker 04 No, it's D'Angelo Vicker.
1:07:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you're correct. Dolly Parton is the youngest of 12 children.
1:07:53 Speaker 04 She is.
1:07:54 Speaker 03 False. She's the fourth child. Owls can fly up to 90 miles per hour.
1:07:59 Speaker 04 That is not true.
1:08:00 Speaker 03 It's true. She's the fourth of the 12.
1:08:03 Speaker 04 I'm talking about the owls.
1:08:04 Speaker 03 What? Oh, false. Yeah, you're right. 40 miles per hour. The comic book superhero Storm is a member of the Justice League.
1:08:12 Speaker 04 No, Justice League is DC, right? She's Marvel?
1:08:17 Speaker 04 Oh, it's false.
1:08:19 Speaker 03 False. It's X-Men. There is no letter Q in any US state name.
1:08:28 Speaker 04 Is there a time limit?
1:08:28 Speaker 03 Why would this be the one? Why would this be the one that?
1:08:32 Speaker 04 Because I feel like that moment Dr. Gorgeous, she's like, Alabama, A-L-A-B-A-M-A. Um, I think that's true.
1:08:40 Speaker 03 It's true. Over 80% of Earth's oceans are totally unexplored.
1:08:44 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, the deep part.
1:08:46 Speaker 03 True.
1:08:46 Speaker 04 True.
1:08:47 Speaker 03 13.
1:08:48 Speaker 04 Wow. Every one of you.
1:08:50 Speaker 03 Wow.
1:08:51 Speaker 04 Can sit over there.
1:08:52 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:08:52 Speaker 04 Has anybody ever, no one's been better than me. I was the greatest that ever lived.
1:08:58 Speaker 03 See if I got, I might have 50 right here. Let's see what we got in here.
1:09:02 Speaker 04 Has anybody ever done better than that?
1:09:04 Speaker 03 I don't think so.
1:09:05 Speaker 04 What, did I get one wrong, two wrong?
1:09:08 Speaker 03 Here, you need to find me $10 later.
1:09:10 Speaker 04 Babe, I'm gonna find your body when you're dead.
1:09:13 Speaker 04 Cause I know shit. Oh, I shit, I got, I'm moving up, I got 60 this time.
1:09:17 Speaker 03 You owe me $10, Trixie.
1:09:19 Speaker 04 Girl.
1:09:21 Speaker 03 And don't check your phone right now.
1:09:23 Speaker 04 No, I'm gonna try to do the Apple Pay back to you.
1:09:25 Speaker 03 Oh, that's really cute. Let's do it. Oh, I love that for us. Is there anything else you wanna tell people? Oh, you still need to, okay, well, it's different because you're our first repeat guest. You're our first repeat guest ever.
1:09:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:09:37 Speaker 03 What's so true to you right now?
1:09:39 Speaker 04 Oh my gosh, you know?
1:09:43 Speaker 04 Oh my gosh, I'm gonna tell you.
1:09:48 Speaker 04 Money's just money.
1:09:49 Speaker 03 Right.
1:09:49 Speaker 04 Work is just work.
1:09:50 Speaker 03 Right.
1:09:51 Speaker 04 Items are just items.
1:09:52 Speaker 03 Literally.
1:09:54 Speaker 04 People are like, here and gone.
1:09:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:09:57 Speaker 04 People are here and gone.
1:09:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:09:59 Speaker 04 Here and gone, and I think it's so true that nobody's ever on their deathbed like, I wish I'd worked more.
1:10:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:10:04 Speaker 04 Make time for people, your mom, call your brother you don't talk to. Try to make a better relationship with your roommate. Try to heal your relationship at work with your coworker you hate, just like, be nice and make time for people and be sweet.
1:10:17 Speaker 03 You're on some wholesome love shit lately.
1:10:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, that, because none of this, none of this shit matters. That light doesn't matter, this couch doesn't matter. But like, you and I having fun today is the reason we're here.
1:10:26 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
1:10:27 Speaker 04 These people are watching, not because of the incredible quality microphones and lighting, but because you and I are connecting and that's like, fun and magical. And they feel like they're part of it.
1:10:36 Speaker 03 It absolutely is. I'm on the same thing. I really just wanna connect and have fun and be, my, my joy. I'm like trying to have joy, that's it.
1:10:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:10:44 Speaker 03 That's all I want.
1:10:44 Speaker 04 You can have it.
1:10:45 Speaker 03 You can have it too. I literally love you to death.
1:10:48 Speaker 04 I love you. I'm so happy to be here. Please have me back again.
1:10:50 Speaker 03 I'll have you back. What are you doing tomorrow?
1:10:52 Speaker 04 Oh gosh, I gotta do Podstep with Katya tomorrow. I'm actually gonna do it with her later.
1:10:56 Speaker 03 Fuck, today?
1:10:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, and she and I have some pre-taping to do tomorrow. And then San Diego on Friday, I'm DJing for a fundraiser in San Diego.
1:11:05 Speaker 03 Is there, do you wanna tell people where to find you?
1:11:07 Speaker 04 I'm pretty much everywhere at Trixie Mattel and on YouTube at Trixie and, but I would invite you all, when does this come out?
1:11:14 Speaker 03 Uh, probably in the next couple of weeks, like two, three weeks.
1:11:16 Speaker 04 Oh, great. We, it's a little early, but our holiday collection of Trixie cosmetics this year is so cute. Y'all are gonna die and it's really giftable items, so check it out.
1:11:25 Speaker 03 Hell yeah. I love it. I love you. Thanks for being here.
1:11:28 Speaker 04 Thank you all. Goodbye.
1:11:29 Speaker 03 Trixie Mattel, what do you know?
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