"Jeremy Allen White"

From Shameless to SmartLess — it’s Jeremy Allen White! We chat dancing, cookies, and dream-roles this week (and our favorite Chicago lunches). “Eat like you’re doing a podcast.” It’s an all-new SmartLess.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Sean Hayes?

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• 2:39Jason Bateman?

  Hi, good morning. Good morning, everybody. Good morning to you.

• 2:41Will Arnett?

  Good afternoon.

• 2:42Jason Bateman?

  What a wonderful day. Oh. Or a good evening for maybe some of our listeners. It could be an evening lesson.

• 2:48Will Arnett?

  I'm just saying, depending on where you are, good that time of day.

• 2:51Jason Bateman?

  Do you think most people listen to this show during the day or during the night?

• 2:54Will Arnett?

  You know what? That's a really great question. And we'll get to it right after this all-new episode of Smartless. God.

• 3:18Jason Bateman?

  I will say in the blind right now, my wife said to say to the guest that she loves them. So I don't know who this is, but just know Oh, because she told you Will. Half of my house loves you already. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, because Will talks to my wife more than I do. And it's something we should get into.

• 3:37Will Arnett?

  Hi, Willie. Let's go there now.

• 3:40Jason Bateman?

  Let's go there now. Will, why do you talk to my wife so often? You talk to her as if, I don't want to say some of these crasses, there's something going on, but it's, it's... Let's put it this way. I'm married to her, and I live with her, and I talk to her X amount. You talk to her X-plus amount. So where does that put your relationship with her?

• 4:03Will Arnett?

  Well, let me just say this. Is there something going on? Don't ask me point-blank.

• 4:08Jason Bateman?

  Should I ask you kind of in a nuanced way?

• 4:11Will Arnett?

  I'm just saying, don't ask me point-blank.

• 4:13Jason Bateman?

  Because you don't like to lie to me.

• 4:15Will Arnett?

  I don't like lying.

• 4:16Jason Bateman?

  Okay. If you were to cheat on one of your friend's wives, would I be in the running? Or husbands?

• 4:27Will Arnett?

  You'd be, yeah, you have been in the running. Sorry. You would, sorry.

• 4:30Jason Bateman?

  Wait, Will?

• 4:33Sean Hayes?

  About Amanda, or?

• 4:34Will Arnett?

  You are the running.

• 4:37Jason Bateman?

  Well, I thank you, Mr. Mark.

• 4:41Will Arnett?

  It's a compliment to you that I love your wife's. No, I do love your wife so much.

• 4:44Jason Bateman?

  I love her.

• 4:45Will Arnett?

  She and I have a special. She and Sean have a special relationship as well.

• 4:50Jason Bateman?

  Are you talking to us from a gorgeous new place in New York?

• 4:54Will Arnett?

  Not new. No, no, no, I'm just in that same place.

• 4:56Sean Hayes?

  Oh.

• 4:57Jason Bateman?

  The rental?

• 4:59Will Arnett?

  Yes, sir.

• 5:00Jason Bateman?

  But did you not just get another new kind of?

• 5:03Will Arnett?

  Maybe, yeah, I maybe did. Maybe I did.

• 5:06Jason Bateman?

  You might actually.

• 5:07Sean Hayes?

  I want to stay there. Can we stay there when we come visit?

• 5:09Will Arnett?

  But not, but not yet. You have a place here.

• 5:12Sean Hayes?

  Oh, that's right. That's right. You're right.

• 5:13Jason Bateman?

  It's uptown, though. I'm sorry, should we take a break?

• 5:15Will Arnett?

  Yeah, Sean, we'll just give you a minute.

• 5:17Jason Bateman?

  Are you still on lunch?

• 5:19Will Arnett?

  Just give you a minute.

• 5:19Jason Bateman?

  We're not back yet?

• 5:21Sean Hayes?

  Snickerdoodle.

• 5:22Jason Bateman?

  Fuck, man. It's not.

• 5:24Will Arnett?

  Sorry?

• 5:24Jason Bateman?

  It's just 11:30.

• 5:26Sean Hayes?

  I know. I know. I have, I have a late lunch, so.

• 5:30Will Arnett?

  By the way.

• 5:31Sean Hayes?

  I just had a, I had just had a chicken wrap and a snickerdoodle and a glass of milk.

• 5:35Jason Bateman?

  Wait, but you just said you have a late lunch coming up.

• 5:37Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, coming up.

• 5:38Jason Bateman?

  It's 11:30.

• 5:39Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 5:39Jason Bateman?

  So why are you eating, why are you eating lunch food?

• 5:41Will Arnett?

  Let me just ask you quickly. What's?

• 5:43Sean Hayes?

  Well, no.

• 5:44Will Arnett?

  This is timing you over at 11:30. To what time's your lunch?

• 5:48Sean Hayes?

  Two, two o'clock.

• 5:50Will Arnett?

  Oh, my God.

• 5:51Jason Bateman?

  And that's a long time. So you're gonna eat dinner at 2:30?

• 5:54Sean Hayes?

  Kind of like, it's like gonna be a weird thing, because then who wants to eat at five or six when I normally eat?

• 5:58Will Arnett?

  Are you powerlifting these days? Are you, are you into powerlifting? What's happening?

• 6:02Jason Bateman?

  You got a big contest coming up?

• 6:04Will Arnett?

  I would love if you just stood up and your legs, your glutes and everything were just popping.

• 6:10Jason Bateman?

  You know, I think I recognize that snickerdoodle from, from the country mart.

• 6:14Sean Hayes?

  No.

• 6:15Jason Bateman?

  Because I had one this weekend.

• 6:16Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yeah, no, they're, they're, they're, they're pretty big.

• 6:19Jason Bateman?

  I do like a snickerdoodle.

• 6:20Sean Hayes?

  It's, they're really good. They're like.

• 6:22Jason Bateman?

  What's your current favorite cookie, Willie?

• 6:24Will Arnett?

  It's always, always, it's current and always chocolate chip cookie.

• 6:27Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 6:28Will Arnett?

  Always in search of the best chocolate chip cookie.

• 6:30Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 6:31Will Arnett?

  Thing.

• 6:31Jason Bateman?

  You know, you know, I like, I like a nice peanut butter cookie. Because they're usually soft and gooey in the middle.

• 6:37Will Arnett?

  They're, they're often too dry for me.

• 6:39Jason Bateman?

  Oh.

• 6:39Sean Hayes?

  You remember, we were, we were on the set of Is This Thing On coming out, or it's already out, I think.

• 6:43Jason Bateman?

  Oh, that's a movie.

• 6:45Will Arnett?

  Sure.

• 6:45Sean Hayes?

  And, and.

• 6:46Jason Bateman?

  That's a movie there, folks.

• 6:47Sean Hayes?

  And the craft service lady made fresh chocolate chip cakes. Remember those, Will?

• 6:51Will Arnett?

  I never had one.

• 6:52Sean Hayes?

  I know. I couldn't believe it. And you're like, boy, that smells really good.

• 6:57Jason Bateman?

  Sounds like someone on the set was honoring the fact that it was an on-camera job, Sean.

• 7:03Sean Hayes?

  Not me. I ate like five of them.

• 7:04Jason Bateman?

  You still eat like you're doing a podcast?

• 7:06Sean Hayes?

  That's right.

• 7:08Will Arnett?

  Eat like you're doing a podcast.

• 7:12Sean Hayes?

  That's really good.

• 7:13Will Arnett?

  Hey, kudos to us on the podcast.

• 7:14Jason Bateman?

  Oh, yeah. We just found out today, yeah.

• 7:17Sean Hayes?

  We got a little golden glow now.

• 7:19Will Arnett?

  And I, I want, we did, and I want to say, I want to say, a lot of it has to do with our friends, Michael Terry and Bennett Barbour-Cow and Rob Armiar.

• 7:28Sean Hayes?

  Armiar, yes.

• 7:28Will Arnett?

  Those guys.

• 7:29Jason Bateman?

  These are the winds beneath our wings, guys.

• 7:31Will Arnett?

  Yeah, and that's why, that's why I'm happy. I'm, I'm happy for those dudes because of how hard they work and, and we love them so much and, and what they do.

• 7:38Sean Hayes?

  Thank you, guys. We love you.

• 7:39Will Arnett?

  We don't need to hear from you. We love you.

• 7:42Jason Bateman?

  Who turned your mic on? You know, you know what Bennett and Rob and Michael would like? They would like probably for the three of us to show up to said award show. In the event we're lucky enough to win, they'd probably like us to get up there and give a nice speech and not be stuck in New York at a play or stuck in Long Island petting a dog or something like that, you know, so.

• 8:04Will Arnett?

  I would love to, but I'm not gonna be, yeah, I can't. I love to, but Rob and Bennett and Michael should go in our stead. That's what I think.

• 8:11Jason Bateman?

  No, you're both coming. Wait till Amanda gets a hold of you both.

• 8:14Sean Hayes?

  I know, by the way, she already did.

• 8:16Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 8:17Sean Hayes?

  Willie, maybe we fly back together just for the night?

• 8:19Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 8:20Will Arnett?

  Well, we'll talk about it.

• 8:21Jason Bateman?

  All right.

• 8:22Will Arnett?

  Oh, guys, the one thing I do want to mention before we go, I want to say that we want to let you know about a new Smartless Media show that, that is celebrating the world's dumbest criminals, right?

• 8:30Jason Bateman?

  You want to let the audience know. You don't want to let, Sean and I are well aware.

• 8:33Will Arnett?

  What's it called?

• 8:33Jason Bateman?

  This is a great little child of, of Smartless Media. A little baby called Crimeless, okay? It's called Crimeless. It's hosted by journalist Josh Dean and comedian Rory Scoville.

• 8:45Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 8:45Will Arnett?

  What do they do? What do they do?

• 8:46Jason Bateman?

  What do you mean? Every week Josh tells Rory a story, or two, or three, you know, about some ridiculous stranger-than-fiction crime starring some of the most hilarious ding-dongs that you guys could possibly imagine. I want you to think of like, you know, like Coen Brothers films, but it's, it's real, you know?

• 9:04Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, Crimeless. It's like Dumb Dums. It's like crime, dumb dumb taking crime.

• 9:07Will Arnett?

  Talking like, like staged deaths and what, like pretend hitting men or fake drugs?

• 9:12Jason Bateman?

  Like insurance scams, but but done by idiots.

• 9:16Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 9:16Jason Bateman?

  People that don't know how to pull it off.

• 9:18Will Arnett?

  Well, okay, so we got new episodes of this. When are they coming out? People were like, I want to get it. When does it come?

• 9:22Jason Bateman?

  When would you want to hear it? You'd want to hear it on a hump day, right? You'd want it just to get you through the week.

• 9:28Will Arnett?

  To get you through the week. Wednesday, perfect on a hump day.

• 9:31Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 9:31Will Arnett?

  Hump day is crimeless day.

• 9:33Jason Bateman?

  Get your podcasts, crimeless.

• 9:35Will Arnett?

  Okay, so.

• 9:36Jason Bateman?

  Um, hey, Will, are you feeling good about your guest?

• 9:40Will Arnett?

  I'm feeling really good. In fact, I want to say, speaking of which, our guest is a Golden Globe nominee, freshly minted. I think he has a couple. Yeah, that's right. Guys, we have somebody who is au courant, as they say. He's a, he's a, he's a very, he is an award-winning, celebrated actor.

• 9:58Jason Bateman?

  He says au courant.

• 10:00Will Arnett?

  I do, and my mom. Uh, you know him as, a lot of people know as as Karmie. Uh, from his acclaimed FX series. Okay, he's, he's, he's earned an Emmy, a Golden Globe, SAG Award for Best Actor. He was just nominated for, uh, uh, Golden Globe for Delivery from Nowhere. You guys, it is Mr. Jeremy Allen White.

• 10:21Jason Bateman?

  All right. I will second my wife's love for you now that I see you. Everybody's love for you. My deep, deep love.

• 10:29Will Arnett?

  Not only that, Jeremy, before you start, welcome, he's also, he was also my surprise guest for our rained-out Hollywood Bowl.

• 10:37Jason Bateman?

  I just found that out. I just found that out too. This is, uh, this is, this is, this is not as good as loving up on you on the Hollywood Bowl stage, but we'll, we'll take it. We'll take it for sure.

• 10:49Speaker 04

  I'm so happy, uh, I'm so happy to see you guys. I was just texting Amanda, uh, as you guys spoke about her.

• 10:55Jason Bateman?

  Oh, everyone's, everyone's up in my wife. Sleeping with Amanda.

• 10:58Will Arnett?

  Let me, Jason, let me say, and I mean this in the most platonic.

• 11:02Jason Bateman?

  That's gonna be it.

• 11:03Will Arnett?

  Jason, I mean this in the most friendly way, friendly, friendly, and I mean this in a non, but your wife really gets around. Um, to texting people.

• 11:12Jason Bateman?

  To text people. Yeah, yeah, she lets you finish.

• 11:14Will Arnett?

  Let me finish, God, is what I said to her. Now, listen.

• 11:19Jason Bateman?

  She's a, she's a lover. She's a real lover. Jeremy, welcome.

• 11:23Will Arnett?

  Jeremy Allen White, welcome.

• 11:25Jason Bateman?

  Very happy to be here.

• 11:26Sean Hayes?

  It's so nice to meet you.

• 11:27Speaker 04

  I'm really happy to be here. So happy to meet you, yeah.

• 11:29Jason Bateman?

  Congrats on the nomination.

• 11:31Will Arnett?

  You guys have never met. Yeah, congrats on the nomination. And Sean, you and Jeremy Allen White have never met.

• 11:36Jason Bateman?

  Never met, but I'm a big fan.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  I'm a big fan.

• 11:39Jason Bateman?

  Oh, wait till you meet him. You'll be in love, I'm serious.

• 11:41Will Arnett?

  No.

• 11:42Speaker 04

  I thought the eating thing, also, I listen to the show a lot. I'm a subscriber, all of it. I thought the eating thing was like...

• 11:50Jason Bateman?

  A bit.

• 11:51Speaker 04

  A bit, but it's...

• 11:52Jason Bateman?

  It's all a bit.

• 11:52Sean Hayes?

  No, a lot of the time, I'm running...

• 11:53Speaker 04

  When you brought out that cookie, I couldn't believe it.

• 11:56Jason Bateman?

  Show them the milk, too. I bet you got milk, right there. I got milk here.

• 11:59Will Arnett?

  Okay, okay. But Jeremy, here's one thing. First of all, Sean, enough with the Foley work. Do you need to keep it in the sleeve?

• 12:07Jason Bateman?

  And take it out of the fucking bag.

• 12:08Will Arnett?

  You're already...

• 12:09Jason Bateman?

  You're at home.

• 12:10Sean Hayes?

  No, I'm keeping it fresh. I'm keeping it fresh.

• 12:11Will Arnett?

  What do you mean fresh?

• 12:12Jason Bateman?

  In a paper bag?

• 12:13Will Arnett?

  It's just a wax paper that's open on one end. How is that keeping it fresh? What, from six minutes that you're taking to eat it?

• 12:20Jason Bateman?

  Can you grab a hat? What's going on with your hair?

• 12:22Sean Hayes?

  I know, I'm sorry.

• 12:24Jason Bateman?

  Fuck, you're gonna catch on fire in a second. I'm gonna buy you some product for Christmas.

• 12:31Will Arnett?

  We're gonna get Jan to send some Lola V over. She should have an emergency crew.

• 12:37Sean Hayes?

  I'll call her on Smartless Mobile to get me some Lola V.

• 12:39Will Arnett?

  Smart.

• 12:41Sean Hayes?

  Very smart. Anyway, Jeremy, where are you today?

• 12:44Will Arnett?

  Jeremy, welcome. Yeah, where do we find you?

• 12:45Speaker 04

  I'm in Los Angeles. I just got back the other day. I was in Vancouver for a little while, and I'm in...

• 12:52Sean Hayes?

  Are you in an office in your house?

• 12:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like, I try to make it an office, but it just becomes kind of storage.

• 12:59Sean Hayes?

  How do you feel about that AC unit that's sticking out of the wall? I mean, they work, right?

• 13:05Speaker 04

  No, I'm wearing the hat right now. It's like, my house is falling apart. Nothing really works here. I got that put in recently. It doesn't work, so it's pretty chilly in here. But this is like a separate kind of room, not a guest house. There's nothing in here, other than what you guys can see.

• 13:22Sean Hayes?

  The acoustics are good. Yeah, the acoustics are great. Can you give us a song?

• 13:25Jason Bateman?

  I think Rob and Ben are laughing right now.

• 13:25Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 13:26Jason Bateman?

  Hey, is that a chef's apron behind your left shoulder?

• 13:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I've got, yeah, the chef's apron. It's like a collection of little stolen things.

• 13:36Jason Bateman?

  Everybody needs a spot for them.

• 13:37Sean Hayes?

  And Jeremy, you can tell us those stories into the mic. That would be great.

• 13:41Speaker 04

  Oh, my gosh. I like, I like gesturing.

• 13:48Speaker 04

  Can you guys hear me?

• 13:49Will Arnett?

  Now we can.

• 13:50Speaker 04

  Okay, good, good, good.

• 13:51Will Arnett?

  So Jeremy, I want to kind of get, I finally want to put the Amanda issue to bed again. But Amanda, when I knew that you were coming on to our live show.

• 14:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:05Will Arnett?

  Amanda was so, Amanda Anken was so excited because she had explained to me that you and Jason are kind of newish friends in the last few months.

• 14:14Speaker 04

  We got set up, yeah.

• 14:16Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, that's nice. We've seen each other a couple of times now.

• 14:19Speaker 04

  Couple of times. It's very exciting.

• 14:21Will Arnett?

  JB, cool it.

• 14:23Jason Bateman?

  You look great today, Jeremy.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  I feel the same, I feel the same way.

• 14:26Jason Bateman?

  That's really exciting.

• 14:27Will Arnett?

  Tell me how this newfound, I love new male friendships and how they start. How did this start, Jeremy? I want to hear Jeremy's tale.

• 14:34Jason Bateman?

  Baby.

• 14:34Speaker 04

  Well, it was, it was Jamie, who I think is friends with everybody, Jamie Mizrahi.

• 14:40Jason Bateman?

  I love her.

• 14:41Speaker 04

  Who set us up a great, great connector. Yeah, she set us up, we went to see some movies over at the house first, so we had like a group hang first to make sure that everything felt.

• 14:52Jason Bateman?

  It wasn't awkward.

• 14:53Speaker 04

  Felt right and it wasn't uncomfortable. But then we got to go, we went to a Dodgers game, which was really, really funny.

• 14:59Jason Bateman?

  That's what always happens.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  Just the two of us.

• 15:00Jason Bateman?

  Always happens there. It was like an hour long ride in the car.

• 15:03Will Arnett?

  The first one's free.

• 15:05Jason Bateman?

  Yep, and then you sit next to me for a few hours. I've got the radio in one ear, so it's still not super pressured, you know?

• 15:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's true.

• 15:14Will Arnett?

  Well, and also you don't have to fully connect with the person, so you don't have to be too vulnerable.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  You've got something going on, yeah.

• 15:20Jason Bateman?

  Exactly. Did you, did you get to sit on the side of, of the ear that had the thing in it, or not? No, no, no, no, he's always, how dare you, Sean, he's on the.

• 15:28Speaker 04

  No, on the open ear.

• 15:29Jason Bateman?

  I've had both, I've had both happen to me.

• 15:31Will Arnett?

  You've had both. Sean went to the playoff, the longest baseball game in playoff history.

• 15:37Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 15:37Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 15:38Jason Bateman?

  Will got a World Series game.

• 15:39Speaker 04

  I mean, yeah, I was thinking about you a lot during, oh, last year.

• 15:43Will Arnett?

  I went, I went last year to the World Series, but, but Sean went this year.

• 15:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:47Jason Bateman?

  It was great, I loved it. Even though it was 18 innings?

• 15:50Will Arnett?

  A little more enthusiasm next delivery.

• 15:52Jason Bateman?

  I really did love it, I love going. He really, he got, he got thrown in the deep end though there with that 18 inning game, I apologize.

• 15:59Speaker 04

  I learned a lot, yeah, I don't know a lot about baseball.

• 16:01Will Arnett?

  So Jeremy, I mean, you must have, you must have learned a lot from like hanging out with an older dude.

• 16:05Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 16:06Will Arnett?

  Because I know that he's always looking to, we call him Dracula, because he's always looking to suck the young blood.

• 16:13Will Arnett?

  He said, he's always, he's like, I need, I need.

• 16:16Jason Bateman?

  I worked on my outfit for a couple of days.

• 16:18Will Arnett?

  I need to get me some youth. I need to get an injection of youth.

• 16:21Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I went for, I went for a looser cut on my jean that, that day.

• 16:26Speaker 04

  I don't know if I'm good for that. Yeah, I'm not sure. Did you get anything?

• 16:30Jason Bateman?

  I did. I picked up on a couple of things. I, I don't really want to reveal it here, but maybe on our next date, you'll see, you'll see some improvements.

• 16:37Will Arnett?

  But did you find JB saying a lot of stuff like, "That sounds pretty dope, dude."

• 16:42Jason Bateman?

  And I think I called a couple of-

• 16:43Speaker 04

  That's fire. That's so fire.

• 16:44Jason Bateman?

  A couple of things were, a couple of things were sus and, and Jeremy definitely had a lot of riz that day.

• 16:52Sean Hayes?

  Wait, Jeremy, so I don't know anything about you. Where did you grow up?

• 16:56Speaker 04

  I grew up, I grew up in Brooklyn, New York.

• 16:59Sean Hayes?

  Oh, see, now because of the show, I think Chicago, like I think that's real.

• 17:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:04Sean Hayes?

  No, not that the show is real, but I thought that you had a connection to Chicago.

• 17:07Speaker 04

  That makes sense. I also, I did a show before The Bear, also set in Chicago. So I've been on like a Chicago set show, really my whole adult life, 18 to 45. So I, so I understand.

• 17:21Sean Hayes?

  And you, you don't shoot the show in Chicago?

• 17:22Will Arnett?

  Sean's always wondering what Tom Selleck felt about growing up in Hawaii.

• 17:30Speaker 04

  We shoot, um, we shoot all of The Bear in Chicago, yes.

• 17:33Jason Bateman?

  Tell me, sir.

• 17:35Sean Hayes?

  Oh, tell me.

• 17:39Jason Bateman?

  We gotta get Tom on the show.

• 17:41Will Arnett?

  We gotta get Tom Selleck in Despelle. But you've got the Detroit Tigers hat now, what? Was one of your parents from Detroit?

• 17:48Jason Bateman?

  So Jeremy, did you eat the food in Chicago?

• 17:50Will Arnett?

  Where are your parents from? Jeremy, Jeremy, all your time in Chicago, did anybody ever bring up Glenn Allen?

• 17:59Speaker 04

  No.

• 18:00Will Arnett?

  Not once?

• 18:00Sean Hayes?

  Well, let me ask you, let me ask you this. Did you eat Portillo's?

• 18:03Speaker 04

  Yes, I love Portillo's.

• 18:04Jason Bateman?

  Isn't it great?

• 18:05Speaker 04

  Portillo's is great.

• 18:06Jason Bateman?

  Will, if you could just back the gum off the mic.

• 18:09Speaker 04

  Yes. The chocolate shake is huge.

• 18:11Will Arnett?

  The chocolate shake is delicious.

• 18:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah.

• 18:14Will Arnett?

  From Portillo's. Sean was waxing on about it before we went to Chicago. We're like, okay, okay. And then that chocolate shake arrived and I was like, this is the real.

• 18:21Sean Hayes?

  Cake shake.

• 18:21Speaker 04

  It's great. It's great.

• 18:23Sean Hayes?

  And by the way, Jason mentioned the cake shake, Portillo's cake shake in Ozark, and he didn't remember that.

• 18:27Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, I don't remember that either. That's wild.

• 18:30Will Arnett?

  Well, he was in a blackout at the time. Maybe, do you want to address these rumors?

• 18:36Sean Hayes?

  So wait, go ahead.

• 18:37Jason Bateman?

  All right, so.

• 18:38Will Arnett?

  Sean, you were happy they put the cake in a shake. Have you ever asked them to do it in an IV? Like, that would really just get it straight to the bloodstream.

• 18:46Jason Bateman?

  So Jeremy, we're in Brooklyn. We're in Brooklyn. We're just learning how to read and write. We're watching cartoons.

• 18:54Will Arnett?

  Your parents were in the theater when you were a kid, is that true?

• 18:56Speaker 04

  That's true. That's true. You read that correctly. Absolutely.

• 19:00Jason Bateman?

  And they say to you, just as you're learning how to read and write, hey, why don't you read this play? Or, did it start that early? How'd you get started?

• 19:11Speaker 04

  No, no, they weren't particularly pushy with all that. You know, when I was a kid, I had a lot of energy. And I think they just wanted to get rid of the energy. So I played sports and that wasn't enough. And I did dance, which was kind of my first, like, getting onstage and performing sort of thing.

• 19:32Jason Bateman?

  Dance?

• 19:33Speaker 04

  And, yeah. So I did ballet, ballet, tap and jazz for a long time in New York.

• 19:39Sean Hayes?

  That's great. Can you still do it?

• 19:40Speaker 04

  I can, I can look like I can do. I mean, tap was my favorite. And I can shuffle a little bit. But, but no, it's been a long time.

• 19:48Jason Bateman?

  But when you're at a, when you're at a party and there's a dance floor, like, to me, that's, it looks like a quicksand pit. Like, watch out, don't get anywhere near it. Like, I've got an allergy to it. Are you, are you thinking like, okay, all right, there's my plan for a little bit later on? Like, are you excited to dance?

• 20:04Speaker 04

  There was a, there was a time, like, in my mid twenties, I had, in LA and New York, like, a dance spot for almost every night of the week.

• 20:14Jason Bateman?

  Oh, my God.

• 20:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:15Sean Hayes?

  No way.

• 20:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. Not like, not like ballroom dancing, but like, there was like a Dance Yourself Clean night. And there was a spot in Chinatown that was like an eighties night.

• 20:25Jason Bateman?

  There's a level of confidence to your dancing that it actually, it's something that you look forward to. And this is, it's a bit of a, it's a little bit of a flex. When, like, you've, I don't want to put you on the spot with words in your mouth, but it's not something you avoid, let's put it that way.

• 20:39Speaker 04

  It's not something I avoid. I like to dance.

• 20:41Jason Bateman?

  God, I wish I was like you.

• 20:42Sean Hayes?

  Hollywood is gonna go nuts for you because you're straight and you can dance. They're gonna put you in so many.

• 20:47Will Arnett?

  Yeah, wait till Hollywood gets a notice of you.

• 20:50Jason Bateman?

  You're gonna do great.

• 20:51Sean Hayes?

  No, Matt.

• 20:54Jason Bateman?

  No, I meant like, what's that Ryan Gosling movie?

• 20:57Speaker 04

  Oh, La La Land.

• 20:58Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, La La Land.

• 20:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:59Will Arnett?

  Jeremy, now, let's say, let's say it's a Tuesday night and you know of a place in New York. You're like, alright, I'm gonna go out. There's like a seventies dance thing and you've got, you've got your new buddy JB and it's late for him because it's nine o'clock and he's a little nervous about how late it is.

• 21:14Jason Bateman?

  He wants to go to the disco.

• 21:16Will Arnett?

  What would, could you teach him how to dance, do you think?

• 21:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, there was a place, Sway, in New York. They had the Smiths night and I think you could, you could do that, right?

• 21:27Jason Bateman?

  I love that.

• 21:27Will Arnett?

  Sean and I.

• 21:28Jason Bateman?

  Can you dance to the Smiths?

• 21:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like Smiths, you're like, you know, you can, you could figure it out, yeah.

• 21:34Jason Bateman?

  Wait, how old are you?

• 21:35Will Arnett?

  Jason, you shut your mouth. How can you say, I go about things the wrong way?

• 21:39Jason Bateman?

  So I can just sort of just rock and sway as opposed to boogie. I'm not that much, but you've got boogie moves, yeah?

• 21:47Speaker 04

  I mean, I feel like the more we talk about it, someone's really gonna try to get me to.

• 21:53Will Arnett?

  But you've got boogie moves. Man, I was looking for something to put on a hat.

• 21:56Speaker 04

  I can dance, yes. I've got, I've got some rhythm. I can dance. I can dance, yeah.

• 22:00Jason Bateman?

  Man, I'm very jealous.

• 22:02Speaker 04

  Um, and I'm sure you could do it, Jason, yes.

• 22:05Will Arnett?

  So you were, so you're singing and dancing as a kid, which you've continued into, into adulthood. And, and then what, what happened? You start doing theater?

• 22:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, so I joined, uh, I did, I, I joined the kind of a new school in middle school in seventh grade and I joined the dance program naturally because I'd been doing that for a while. But, um, I didn't find the class took dance seriously enough.

• 22:31Jason Bateman?

  Oh boy.

• 22:32Speaker 04

  I didn't feel the teacher took it seriously enough.

• 22:34Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 22:35Speaker 04

  Uh, and so I switched to the drama program.

• 22:39Jason Bateman?

  Did you have leg warmers on at the time you were in this level of disdain?

• 22:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was stretching. I had the warmers on. I did the whole thing and I just didn't think they were taking it.

• 22:48Jason Bateman?

  He has a big boat net collar.

• 22:50Speaker 04

  My belly, my, my belly was showing.

• 22:52Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, and you're like, these fucking people.

• 22:54Speaker 04

  I just didn't think they took it seriously though. I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but at the time I was like, this doesn't feel, you know. It's like they're not taken seriously enough. And I found a drama teacher at this school, John McEnany, who took things so seriously. And some of my best friends were in this school already, in this class. And, um, and yeah, my first time acting was like in a little black box at this school in Brooklyn, this middle school in Park Slope. Um, and I remember, yeah, getting on it, on that stage for the first time and, and really feeling like a sense of, I don't know, um, like focus or presence or something that I hadn't been able to find, like a real like ease.

• 23:32Jason Bateman?

  Did you feel anything from the audience? Was it a comedy? Did you get a laugh or a drama? Did you feel that you'd move them?

• 23:37Speaker 04

  It was, no, funnily enough, it was like an exercise where we had to have two actors where a monologue was being performed, but there were two actors on stage. And I was the actor not speaking, uh, and.

• 23:50Jason Bateman?

  A dream job.

• 23:50Speaker 04

  And, yeah, and, but it was amazing to feel like, i- i- if you could feel focused on the person across from you and really be listening, like I, I felt a tension on me, even in silence, just kind of like focusing on somebody else.

• 24:06Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 24:06Speaker 04

  And I felt like, uh, I don't know, my mind wasn't racing, I wasn't, like, there is something, and still, that's why I like acting so much. Like, I find I'm so ahead of myself a lot of the time, or anxious, or, you know, and then when I'm on set or performing, uh, there's like a real, like, simplicity or focus or something happens that's really.

• 24:28Jason Bateman?

  It's a really interesting way to put it.

• 24:29Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, do you, do you have like a little bit of ADD or something like that?

• 24:33Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 24:33Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, same. And then when I'm, I'm doing this, I'm working on this play right now, and it's a monologue, it's 40 pages. And I find that when I have the one thing, like you're saying, to focus on, it actually calms my brain a little bit.

• 24:43Speaker 04

  Everything else gets kind of quiet and there's something really nice about that.

• 24:46Will Arnett?

  Oh, Sean, you would, you would describe yourself, Sean, as having a little bit of ADD?

• 24:50Speaker 04

  Did you say 40 pages?

• 24:52Jason Bateman?

  It's a one man show. It's another way to put a one man show. He's learning.

• 24:56Will Arnett?

  Wow, I can't believe they're bringing Puppetry of the Penis back.

• 25:01Speaker 04

  That's so exciting. Where is the show?

• 25:03Sean Hayes?

  At Studio Seaview, which is, John Krasinski just did his show there last summer. Which was great. Yeah.

• 25:10Speaker 04

  When does it go up?

• 25:11Sean Hayes?

  January 31st it opens. I can't make that. That's fine. I know. Oh no, well, I think that's previews start January 31st. Anyway, but I know what you mean about it being, you being able to focus. It gives you something to focus on that you can put all your energy towards as opposed to, yeah, it's just a common thing.

• 25:28Speaker 04

  Feeling very like scattered. That's the way my brain works. I feel very scattered and...

• 25:31Sean Hayes?

  Same. And we will be right back.

• 25:38Sean Hayes?

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• 27:15Jason Bateman?

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• 29:26Jason Bateman?

  And now, back to the show.

• 29:29Will Arnett?

  So you find this thing and you're like, I'm locked in. I feel locked. This is something that I respond to and I like.

• 29:35Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 29:35Will Arnett?

  And then you, and then you go, you start auditioning for professional roles? What happens?

• 29:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, this, this teacher who was so serious, I mean, he had us doing, we did Macbeth and Twelfth Night as 12-year-olds, back to back.

• 29:52Jason Bateman?

  Oh, wow.

• 29:52Speaker 04

  He was so serious.

• 29:54Jason Bateman?

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 29:55Will Arnett?

  Keeping it light for the kids.

• 29:56Jason Bateman?

  How does a 12-year-old learn Shakespeare?

• 29:58Speaker 04

  He would wake up, he lived near the school, and he would come to school with like nosebleeds when we were doing dress. Like, he was so like in it and focused and, you know, he really.

• 30:08Will Arnett?

  He was in something. I mean.

• 30:09Speaker 04

  He cared. He cared very much about it. And he would send me out on like, he would go to backstage, which is like, you know, where you could do open casting calls. And, and I got my first couple of jobs, yeah, going on.

• 30:25Will Arnett?

  Through backstage?

• 30:25Jason Bateman?

  Oh, that's great.

• 30:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:26Will Arnett?

  No way. That's so rad. What was the first one? Do you remember?

• 30:29Speaker 04

  Uh, I did this off, off, off-Broadway play called The Present. And that was kind of my first job. I think we got paid. I hope, I hope we got paid. But, but yeah, that was my first job. It was like on the Upper West Side.

• 30:44Will Arnett?

  And you were in middle school?

• 30:45Speaker 04

  I was in middle school.

• 30:47Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  And then, I think I got a commercial maybe, and then my first movie, they came to do an open casting call at the school. And a great casting director, Cindy Tolan, was casting that film. And she told me, you know, we don't know if this movie is ever gonna come together. It'll take a long time. It was a very small budget film. But she said, you know, you're, you're good at this and, and you should really audition more. And so she wrote me a really great letter to take around to agents and stuff. So I ended up getting an agent.

• 31:20Jason Bateman?

  That's great. That's great.

• 31:21Speaker 04

  Yeah. Thank you, Cindy Tolan.

• 31:23Jason Bateman?

  Now, was singing ever a part of this? I forgot.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  No.

• 31:27Jason Bateman?

  It was not?

• 31:28Speaker 04

  No, no. Just dance. Yeah.

• 31:29Jason Bateman?

  So then musical theater was never really a draw or a temptation. But how about now? Now that you've taught yourself how to sing, I mean.

• 31:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:39Jason Bateman?

  Your performance is so mind-blowing in the Springsteen thing. I don't want to embarrass you. We don't have to talk about it because I'm sure you're tired of talking about it. But it's just. F-ing incredible. And the fact that you learned how to sing in someone else's voice on top of that, and learned how to play guitar, I think, too.

• 31:56Will Arnett?

  You had to learn how to play guitar for this role?

• 31:59Jason Bateman?

  To take on that...

• 32:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, at least look like I could handle it, yeah.

• 32:03Jason Bateman?

  Wow, incredible. Huge, huge nards taking that on and doing such a great job.

• 32:08Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, Jason was telling, was going on and on about how, I'm so sorry, I haven't seen it yet, but it's on my list, I swear. But Jason was just raving about your performance, and as is everybody else.

• 32:17Will Arnett?

  He's incredible.

• 32:18Sean Hayes?

  I can't wait to see it.

• 32:19Jason Bateman?

  So now that you've got the singing and the dancing, I don't know if you'd need the guitar part for musical theater, but like, do you think about doing like a musical on Broadway or something? That's what I'm saying, like a La La Land?

• 32:30Speaker 04

  No, I mean, it's never been, I mean, I have no, no issue, and I've like enjoyed musical theater, but it's, it's like seeing it, but it's never been, like in high school, I went to a performing arts school and, and I would do theater, but it was usually kind of straight plays and stuff and, um, uh, yeah, I don't know, I've never had that, that draw to be in it, I've been, I've been a fan of it.

• 32:54Jason Bateman?

  But you wouldn't run if somebody brought you something, let's say like, like, like the new Hamilton kind of thing.

• 32:58Will Arnett?

  Or like, or like as Sean would mention for 50 times, La La Land.

• 33:03Jason Bateman?

  La La Land.

• 33:04Will Arnett?

  Jesus, why'd you marry that movie?

• 33:07Speaker 04

  La La Land 2, I would definitely be interested in doing.

• 33:11Jason Bateman?

  How about the Christmas sequel, Fa La La Land?

• 33:14Speaker 04

  Fa La La Land.

• 33:16Will Arnett?

  JB, that's really good.

• 33:17Jason Bateman?

  Thanks, guys.

• 33:18Speaker 04

  That is nice.

• 33:19Sean Hayes?

  Wait, so, so are you, do you play an instrument now? Like, do you play anything, piano or anything else?

• 33:24Speaker 04

  No, I mean, I never really learned how to play anything, and I remember, you know, I had about six months to learn guitar, which, you know, isn't enough time, really, to learn how to play the guitar. Um, but I got together with a really great teacher and, um, and we just learned the couple songs that I needed to learn, but it makes it very hard for me to learn or to play other things now, because I didn't learn in a traditional way, so even if I try to learn something else, I kind of end up playing Mansion on a Hill or something, like it doesn't, it doesn't translate.

• 33:56Jason Bateman?

  Do you still have calluses on the tips of your fingers?

• 33:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, they're still a little rough.

• 34:00Jason Bateman?

  Really?

• 34:00Speaker 04

  And I still pick up, I mean, you know, Bruce Springsteen has, he was so involved in kind of the process of making the movie and, and really lovely and supportive all the way, all the way through, but, um...

• 34:13Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, you seem to really love it.

• 34:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, he, yeah, he's seen it a lot. Um, but he bought me a 1955 Gibson J200, which is the same model and almost a year. He, he recorded it on 1954. Um, but after our first meeting, he sent me this guitar, which is a very beautiful guitar. And, and so I do pick it up every once in a while, just because I feel guilty letting it.

• 34:38Sean Hayes?

  How cool, man. That's so cool, yeah. Is it there in the office in your, in your, uh?

• 34:42Speaker 04

  You know what? As I said, my house is falling apart. When that rain was happening, I was nervous that there would be some moisture in here. So it's actually under my bed at this point. And where it's really safe.

• 34:53Will Arnett?

  That's smart. You know, I obviously, I bought a Christmas tree here yesterday in New York, and I dragged it back to my, my place here. We decorated yesterday.

• 34:58Sean Hayes?

  Oh, did somebody film it?

• 34:59Will Arnett?

  And I thought, you know, uh, yeah, I'd, obviously I film everything. And, and I thought about, I thought about, if, if I ever wanted to have a, I'd have a Christmas tree stand down on Spring Street, you know, just this season, and I'd call it Spruce of Spring Street. You know what I mean?

• 35:15Sean Hayes?

  Nice. Nice. Bravo. That was worth it. Oh, that was worth it. Wait, so. We'll tighten it up. So Jeremy, so what was the first thing then after all that theater experience that got you out to the West Coast?

• 35:30Speaker 04

  I got, I got a job. Um, I was very lucky. Right out of high school, uh, I got a job on a TV show called Shameless.

• 35:38Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yes, of course. Of course you were on that. Yeah, fantastic.

• 35:41Will Arnett?

  Yeah, you were on for like a decade. Am I right about that?

• 35:44Sean Hayes?

  More.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  I was, man, I was 18 when we did the pilot, and I was 30 when we finished.

• 35:50Sean Hayes?

  Wow. That takes you through a lot. And that was the first gig? Like, the first, or the first big gig?

• 35:56Speaker 04

  I did, yeah. I did some film and like every Law and Order and stuff like that when I was in New York. Um, but yeah, Shameless brought me to Los Angeles and kept me in Los Angeles.

• 36:05Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that's so cool. That's so cool.

• 36:07Will Arnett?

  That's incredible. You, 18 to 30.

• 36:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, it just doesn't happen.

• 36:12Jason Bateman?

  Right, so you're inside that cocoon, that, that, that, that comfortable cocoon of a series through your whole launch, right?

• 36:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:20Jason Bateman?

  You got great notices through that and, and you're meeting everybody and you're getting other opportunities in the, during the hiatuses in between each season?

• 36:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, I try to do something, you know, um, yeah, I try to do something. Each hiatus, we shot about five months and yeah, if I was lucky, I'd, I'd get a movie or, or I did another, like an Amazon sort of series one time, but, but yeah, I mean, I, I didn't have to, I mean, I was so happy and felt so lucky to have that kind of like, I don't know, that consistency and kind of continuity in my life.

• 36:54Jason Bateman?

  Sure.

• 36:55Speaker 04

  Especially in my twenties, especially as an actor.

• 36:57Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 36:57Speaker 04

  To kind of just have, um, have some place, you, you knew where you were gonna be.

• 37:02Jason Bateman?

  Steady employment.

• 37:03Speaker 04

  For four months every year, five months every year.

• 37:04Jason Bateman?

  Did you have time to, to, to also have a life? I mean, that's, that takes you all the way through your twenties, like that's, that's a time where you really wanna have fun. Did you find time to do all that stuff too? Or it's just?

• 37:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, definitely found time for all that stuff. Um, yeah, I mean, I bounced around, like we shot the show here and I got a place back home in New York when I was like 22 and so I'd kind of like split my time between LA and New York and, and, um, and then yeah, I mean, by the time we finished the show, I had, you know, I had my two daughter, a lot of life happened.

• 37:36Jason Bateman?

  Wow, you have two kids?

• 37:37Speaker 04

  I had Ezzy and Dolly. Yeah, yeah, two daughters, yeah.

• 37:40Jason Bateman?

  How old were they?

• 37:41Speaker 04

  Uh, Dolly turns five on Friday and Ezzy turns seven in October.

• 37:47Jason Bateman?

  Amazing, I mean, you still look like you're thirty, which is crazy.

• 37:49Will Arnett?

  I know.

• 37:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, we, how old were we? I mean, I was 27, yeah, when Ezzy was born, yeah, yeah.

• 37:55Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 37:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:56Will Arnett?

  In, in that time, did you ever cross, I mean, I think you wrote on your show, Mike O'Malley, didn't he write?

• 38:00Speaker 04

  Oh my gosh, of course, yeah.

• 38:01Will Arnett?

  Yeah, he's a good friend of all of ours.

• 38:03Speaker 04

  He's the best, man.

• 38:03Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 38:03Jason Bateman?

  Mike was a writer on Shameless?

• 38:05Speaker 04

  He was on Glee at the same time too, which was like such a huge show.

• 38:09Will Arnett?

  Right, right.

• 38:09Speaker 04

  And I was like, oh wow, you're. You're such a big actor and you're writing on our show.

• 38:13Jason Bateman?

  Mike's had a really cool career.

• 38:15Will Arnett?

  A really cool career.

• 38:16Jason Bateman?

  Right? Mike's had a really cool career so far, yeah? Yeah, I love that guy. Has he done acting, stand-up, writing, producing?

• 38:24Will Arnett?

  He's done it all. He's such a talented guy, such a talented writer. And we all, I mean, it just, he's such a great old, old friend of mine and ours.

• 38:33Jason Bateman?

  He's not that old, Will.

• 38:34Will Arnett?

  No.

• 38:37Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 38:38Will Arnett?

  He's just, he's just the best. We love you, Mike.

• 38:40Speaker 04

  He's a sweetheart.

• 38:41Will Arnett?

  He is a sweetheart. So, so that takes you through to your, all of a sudden, so now you're 30. And it's weird coming off a show when you've been on it for a long time, right? That's a weird.

• 38:52Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, did you think like, okay, it's all gonna be downhill from here?

• 38:55Speaker 04

  100%. I felt totally, I mean, you know, I-

• 38:59Jason Bateman?

  Leave the cocoon.

• 39:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, I remember, I mean, I really did. I, I, I did, we did ADR for the last, for whatever, the last episode of the 11th season of Shameless. That was at Warner Brothers.

• 39:12Jason Bateman?

  For Tracy, that's, that's where you, you re-recorded some dialogue if, if it didn't, if it wasn't recorded well on, on the day. It's sort of a finishing- There you go.

• 39:20Speaker 04

  There you go. Yeah, it means kind of the end. It's your, your last connection often with the thing. And, um, and I finished that and I was driving home from Warner Brothers and had a full, like, panic. I, I had to pull over, my arms went, I was so-

• 39:37Jason Bateman?

  Wow, really? Wow.

• 39:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, it had just been such a comfort. And, you know, I was with those actors for 11 years and, I mean, they're like my family, brothers and sisters. Like, I got so close with, with everybody and, and I felt like I was saying goodbye to not only kind of like my, my work environment and that sort of like comfort and security, but also saying goodbye to these, these people who have been so solid for, for me for so long. And, and yeah, I just didn't know what was next. And I had a very hard time.

• 40:08Jason Bateman?

  How did you, what was, what was the thing that was most helpful that, that got you to, because I know that panic well. Yeah.

• 40:16Will Arnett?

  Same.

• 40:17Jason Bateman?

  What do you, did you, did you lean on a friend? Did you go into ther- I mean, I'm just citing all the things that I do. Friends, therapy, I partied, I like, you know, just everything. Yeah. What?

• 40:28Speaker 04

  I certainly, yeah, was in therapy and was talking about it a lot. And then, but I was also very lucky, like, so, I mean, you know, there's so much luck involved in all of this thing, but- You know, I I spoke to Chris Storer, who created The Bear. He produced this uh this movie I did, The Rental, like after season nine of Shameless. And um and Chris, I didn't see him on set a lot, he was kind of back and forth. But he comes up to me on kind of the last day and Chris goes, uh, "Hey, what do you think you're gonna be doing in three years?" And I went, you know, "I don't I don't really know, like, you know, I think I got a couple more years of Shameless." And he goes, "All right, buddy, I'm gonna call you in three years."

• 41:12Speaker 04

  And he walked away. And I was like, "What a fucking jerk." Like, "What a Hollywood jerk." Like, "There's no way I'm ever gonna hear from that guy ever again."

• 41:19Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  And uh he called me just as we were wrapping up season 11 and said, "I have the show The Bear." You know, "I'd really like you to do it." But I was hesitant at first, because it was, you know, I love Chicago, but based in Chicago again. And and there was some kind of like family dynamics that seemed like similar upon first read to me. And so I just wasn't sure I'd do it yet, but I just kept reading the script for The Bear and the pilot. And it was so great. And I got to the point where I was just like, you know, it's it's not my business to pass. I have no right to pass on something this uh this good. So even though I was anxious about the future and all this stuff, I was shooting the pilot for The Bear

• 42:03Speaker 04

  probably two months after that panic attack. You know, I knew I was going somewhere, so I was able to kind of throw myself into into something else.

• 42:12Jason Bateman?

  Yet it was still just a pilot, right? So you had to sweat-

• 42:14Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 42:15Jason Bateman?

  The delivery of that, the the the the-

• 42:18Speaker 04

  Reception of that.

• 42:19Jason Bateman?

  Reading it, or sorry, watching it and giving it a pickup, right?

• 42:22Speaker 04

  FX, I believe, still is one of the, it's it's, I don't think it's like this kind of inside baseball, but it's like, you know, I I think a lot of shows will go straight to series these days with streaming. But um FX continues to sort of, they shoot a pilot, everybody watches it, they see what it looks like, they take a look at, you know, um, what you want to do with the first season.

• 42:45Will Arnett?

  Well, they make pretty good shows over there, so their-

• 42:46Speaker 04

  They do. No, no, wonderful.

• 42:49Sean Hayes?

  Wait, I have a question about staying in Chicago. So those 11 seasons you did of Shameless and then The Bear, do you find a new place to stay every time you go, or do you have a hub that you stay at?

• 42:59Jason Bateman?

  What a great question, Sean. That's great.

• 43:02Sean Hayes?

  Thank you.

• 43:02Will Arnett?

  What part of Chicago? Who's your broker?

• 43:07Speaker 04

  So we shot, we shot most of Shameless in LA. But we'd go for like a week at a time.

• 43:14Sean Hayes?

  Oh, I got it. Okay, got it.

• 43:15Speaker 04

  So we'd stay in a hotel.

• 43:16Sean Hayes?

  I thought you shot the whole thing there.

• 43:17Speaker 04

  No, no, no.

• 43:18Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, no.

• 43:19Will Arnett?

  First week in showbiz. We're catching, we're catching.

• 43:24Speaker 04

  We do, we do shoot All of the Bear in Chicago and we stay all in the same place. And it's great because all of us are like on the same floor and we all cook together and eat together.

• 43:34Sean Hayes?

  Oh, that's great.

• 43:34Will Arnett?

  Breakfast included.

• 43:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:40Sean Hayes?

  Okay, wow.

• 43:42Speaker 04

  But yeah.

• 43:42Sean Hayes?

  So Apollo 13, the movie, didn't, they didn't film that in space then, no?

• 43:46Jason Bateman?

  A portion of it.

• 43:49Will Arnett?

  Okay, so you get the bear. So now you start doing the bear. So you, you come out of this, by the way, Sean, I was gonna ask you. You also had that thing with like Will and Grace. How long was that on the air?

• 44:00Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, how long? Total 11 seasons, but broken up to eight, three.

• 44:03Speaker 04

  So did you feel when that was over?

• 44:06Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. Well, you know, I tried to be self-aware, I'm sure these guys did too during Arrested Development, that you know when something's working and you have a gig and you have job security and somewhere to go every day and hopefully every year with each season, that you start trying to think ahead like, okay, I'm self-aware enough to know that this is working now. I have to use this to get another, I have to make sure I can parlay this into another gig. And as hard as you try, you just can't, like Jason always says, you can't control it. You can't control, you know, where your career goes. You can try, but it's like, you know.

• 44:40Jason Bateman?

  Just kind of do your part.

• 44:41Speaker 04

  You do have to let go. Yeah.

• 44:43Will Arnett?

  We never, well, certainly on Arrested, we never had.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  How long was Arrested?

• 44:47Will Arnett?

  The first incarnation was three years.

• 44:49Speaker 04

  Oh, right, but then you guys came back.

• 44:51Will Arnett?

  We never had job security, even when, after we won the Emmy, we were like, we were on the verge of being canceled. The next week.

• 44:58Speaker 04

  That's so crazy. It's such a great show. That's unbelievable.

• 45:01Jason Bateman?

  Every time we go past the guard shack at studio, we'd wonder if there'd still be a drive on for us.

• 45:05Speaker 04

  But you guys knew how good it was. Like, you guys could all feel how good it was, right? I mean, it's like a boring question.

• 45:11Jason Bateman?

  We did, but we were all a bunch of weirdos on that show. We're like, well, is this gonna translate? Are other people gonna think this is funny?

• 45:18Will Arnett?

  Yes, we never knew. I never had that job security. I never had like a long-term job in that way.

• 45:24Speaker 04

  Right.

• 45:25Will Arnett?

  I have never.

• 45:26Sean Hayes?

  And yet you work more than literally anybody I know.

• 45:29Will Arnett?

  I don't know if that's true, but it's weird.

• 45:30Jason Bateman?

  You're doing okay, Will.

• 45:31Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 45:34Will Arnett?

  Thank you. So you get that. So now you come off that and then all of a sudden you find yourself, you're shooting the pilot, and then the show gets picked up. And could you have predicted that The Bear would resonate with fans and critics and everybody as much as it did when you were doing it?

• 45:52Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, even more so than Shameless.

• 45:54Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 45:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I mean, you know, I think all of you guys know that the feeling of kind of making something and knowing that it feels exciting and fresh and that you love all the other actors and everybody's doing such great work, but then you know, that almost doesn't matter. You know, you put something out and will it connect or will anybody watch? It's just a whole other thing. So I think we all knew how exciting it was to make and we all hoped we could do more. But I think my greatest hope for the show when we were shooting the first season was like, maybe we can find kind of like a niche sort of like market where like people in service really dig this show or like, you know, like it's like respected by,

• 46:38Speaker 04

  I think that was the goal is like, will kitchens like this show? Will Back of House like this show? Does this seem real?

• 46:46Speaker 04

  So the fact that it connected with as many people as it did and was watched as much as it has been was definitely a surprise, yeah.

• 46:56Jason Bateman?

  And you're on your what?

• 46:58Sean Hayes?

  You're on year four?

• 47:00Will Arnett?

  Of the bear?

• 47:01Speaker 04

  We will start shooting five next year.

• 47:04Sean Hayes?

  Wow.

• 47:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:05Sean Hayes?

  Wow, that's great. How many episodes a season?

• 47:08Speaker 04

  It changes. It's sometimes it's eight, sometimes it's 10, but it's always right around there. Yeah, that's great, man.

• 47:14Jason Bateman?

  And now you're a great big movie star on top of it all, too. Like, how are you gonna stuff it all in, bud?

• 47:20Speaker 04

  Oh, man. Well, I feel like I wanna take a nap. I don't know. I'm very like, I'm excited to go do the, you know, the next season of the show and then I'm, I'm like, I mean, it's been so lovely what the show has given me, but I'm definitely, I definitely wanna like hang out at home and take the kids to school and stuff.

• 47:41Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, cuz it does seem like there are, there are people that are uniquely suited to like constantly be in a public position and, and, and, and sort of do that whole thing.

• 47:52Will Arnett?

  Away from home and all that stuff.

• 47:54Jason Bateman?

  And then there are others that, yeah, that, that really like to be at home, that are sort of private, that are sort of shy, that, that it's sort of antithetical to the whole public job, right? And you do seem to be someone that enjoys, like, like me, I, I like, I think all three of us who kind of enjoy being kind of nesters.

• 48:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, trying to find a bit of a routine or a little bit of like, I don't know, rhythm, you know? I, I get very thrown.

• 48:23Jason Bateman?

  And when you go out, you feel like you gotta like kind of throw the switch a little bit and kind of like, okay, now we gotta kind of do this a bit, but it kind of becomes a part of you? Is that, has it become a comfortable part of you?

• 48:33Speaker 04

  Which part? Like, just like flying around and?

• 48:36Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, and doing the thing and, and, and promoting stuff.

• 48:39Will Arnett?

  Showing up in the room and everybody's like looking at you and going like, hey, there's Jeremy, you know?

• 48:43Speaker 04

  I mean, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't think that'll ever feel for me like a comfortable thing, but I think you can get better at sort of like hiding your anxiety perhaps. Yeah, for sure.

• 48:54Will Arnett?

  You know what's funny, Jeremy? Like this weekend, actually, at one point I was on somewhere on social media and a photo came up and it's you and, and our friend Jamie who we just mentioned.

• 49:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:05Will Arnett?

  And, and it was like seen with, and I was like. There we go. You're there with Jamie, who you work with.

• 49:13Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 49:13Will Arnett?

  And then, and then people sort of globbing, you know, sort of lobbing comments and saying like, "Who's this person?"

• 49:18Speaker 04

  Who's the person, yeah.

• 49:20Will Arnett?

  Who's the person? And then, and you're just like, "Hey, man, the guy's out work, he's working, or he's doing this, and he's in the city." Like, it's just, and that part is bizarre, right? It's just, it never gets really normal.

• 49:31Jason Bateman?

  Are you able to see that as kind of fun and funny?

• 49:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, you know, I love Jamie, and I've known her for so long. So like, that kind of thing is funny, and, and that's what I get for, you know, whatever, staying at the Bowery. But, um, but I just, um, but no, that stuff is, yeah, it's like, uh, it's strange. You certainly don't get used to it. Like, I, I have this farmer's market I, I love to go to, and I've gone to for, you know, six, seven years. That's very close to my house, and I go every Sunday. And, and I feel like that thing that was mine, or me and my daughters, or like, whatever, that very like, private, kind of like, nice routine, has kind of been, yeah, like spoiled by that sort of, uh, the attention. So, so yeah, when those things happen, I mean, I understand it comes with, you know,

• 50:17Speaker 04

  I'm, I'm very lucky to be working this career that I've wanted to be in for so long, and have these opportunities, and this is something that, that comes with it. Um, but yeah, none of it is normal, you know, um, none of it feels normal.

• 50:30Will Arnett?

  Do you talk to your, do you talk to your kids about it? Like, do you explain, try to explain it to them?

• 50:34Jason Bateman?

  Are they old enough yet?

• 50:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, I just try to explain it as like, people get excited, you know, they know I'm on television, and they'll see like, posters and, and things, and, you know, I explain that people get excited about kind of thinking they understand a version of your dad, but it's not really your dad. And, and I'm, you know, you know me, and these people don't really know me, but that's, they get excited because they see this version of me, I guess. But Ezzy, my oldest, spots people, you know, quicker than, than I do. She's got like, a real like, Hawkeye for, for, um, for people, kind of. When someone pretends to be going through their emails. Putting up their phone, or doing a double take. She'll be like, "We better keep moving." Um, so.

• 51:18Jason Bateman?

  And she's seven?

• 51:19Speaker 04

  So it's nice that she's sharp. Yeah, I, I'm glad that she's, you know.

• 51:23Will Arnett?

  I was, I was with somebody once, and, and somebody was taking like, a sneaky pic of them, and then came up and said, "Can I get a pic?" And they said, "You already got it."

• 51:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Respect, you know, respect.

• 51:35Sean Hayes?

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• 53:47Sean Hayes?

  And now, back to the show.

• 53:50Will Arnett?

  JB, what have you, have you ever, what do you say to your girls? I mean, your girls are older now, but did you say it back in the day? Have that convo with them?

• 53:56Jason Bateman?

  I made a mistake early on of, um...

• 53:58Will Arnett?

  We know, but I want to know about this.

• 54:03Jason Bateman?

  I remember once we were driving past a poster and, uh, and, and one of my daughters said, "Oh," we were driving to school, and she's like, "Oh, I can't wait to tell my friends that, you know, you're on a poster." And I, my instinct was, I said, "No, no, no, you can't. You can't, don't, don't ever say that." And I kind of, because I didn't want her to be, you know, bragging or like, being like...

• 54:22Will Arnett?

  Right, right.

• 54:22Jason Bateman?

  I try, I, I overcompensated and kind of made it...

• 54:25Speaker 04

  Right, it landed in a way that was like panicked about...

• 54:28Jason Bateman?

  Right, that you should hide the fact of what your dad does. Like, they almost thought that what I did was a bad thing.

• 54:33Speaker 04

  Uh-huh, right, right.

• 54:34Jason Bateman?

  And so I kind of had to undo that, but, you know, what do I, I'd never had kids before. It's first for me.

• 54:39Speaker 04

  I mean, how old were, when was, yeah, how did you guys handle that kind of stuff? You and Amanda?

• 54:44Jason Bateman?

  It's, uh, you know, you just, you try to keep an eye on what, like, when's the first possible moment they can understand the smart version of this conversation?

• 54:55Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm, right.

• 54:55Jason Bateman?

  You know, and try to have it then, as opposed to the dumb version of the conversations, which is what I had, and it's just sort of just like, you know, a big dull, you know, dumb and blunt instrument, you know, saying, "No, this is bad, don't talk about it. This is, you know, over here is good." And it's just, was kind of stupid. So, I just kind of kicked the can down the road for a bit, I guess.

• 55:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, very well.

• 55:17Sean Hayes?

  Jeremy, what's your dream role?

• 55:21Jason Bateman?

  Great, great, great. I want to hear this. Yeah, I know, this is great.

• 55:25Will Arnett?

  One more thing on Chicago.

• 55:26Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 55:27Will Arnett?

  So, what was the commute like from the place you guys were staying?

• 55:33Speaker 04

  Well, Sean, I will, I mean, do you, do you go back a lot? Like, do you have a restaurant I should be going to that I don't know about? Like, what's going on?

• 55:39Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I love... This is slippery slope, Jeremy. Okay, go ahead.

• 55:42Sean Hayes?

  I love the RL restaurant, the Ralph Lauren Polo restaurant.

• 55:44Speaker 04

  Of course, we, yeah, I mean, that's, uh...

• 55:45Sean Hayes?

  Come on, really?

• 55:46Speaker 04

  We can all walk. It's the best, yeah.

• 55:48Sean Hayes?

  It's the best.

• 55:48Speaker 04

  For lunch, we're there. Chris Dorff, the creator of the Bears, there every, every day.

• 55:53Sean Hayes?

  And it's attached to the Ralph Lauren store. Ralph Lauren.

• 55:56Jason Bateman?

  I believe it's Ralph Lauren.

• 55:57Will Arnett?

  You know what, the one in, the one in Paris is very good too.

• 56:00Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, they're all good.

• 56:02Will Arnett?

  Yeah, really, really good.

• 56:03Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. But, but Jared, like, is there, because you have so much going on, you have to balance, you know, like you said, it'd be nice to take my kids to school or whatever. Is there something that's coming up or something that you've always wanted to do where you're just like, I really need to do that, I really want to do that, I have to get this.

• 56:18Jason Bateman?

  But I can't do it because of kids.

• 56:19Sean Hayes?

  Or I can't, or I have to, or I have to figure it out.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  I don't know, I mean, I don't think of, you know, I kind of take things as they, as they, as they come.

• 56:30Sean Hayes?

  Like you want like, I have to play Bruce Springsteen, I want, it was more like a collaborative, hey, what do you think about this?

• 56:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, that came, yeah, Bruce, Bruce came to me and the script came to me through Scott Cooper, who's a director I've admired for a really long time.

• 56:42Jason Bateman?

  Great filmmaker.

• 56:43Speaker 04

  And I think that's how I always move is sort of, who are the directors, who are the writers, who are the producers, like, who are the actors I want to work with? So like, the, the genre or the world, while can, those can be like very exciting things are almost secondary to, you know.

• 57:02Will Arnett?

  The material.

• 57:03Speaker 04

  I really want to work with Paolo Sorrentino, or I really, like every actor wants to just do like a line in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie, or, you know, that's always kind of what I'm looking for, there's no sort of like archetype or, or world that I'm necessarily like, I need to, I need to do this.

• 57:19Sean Hayes?

  Got it, got it, got it.

• 57:20Will Arnett?

  Sean, what about you, something fun, what would you like to do right now? I'm serious, that somebody said, you can pick a genre, right now, what would you do?

• 57:26Sean Hayes?

  I want to play, I told you, I want to play a complete fucking maniacal serial killer. Or someone who's just, you would never, ever expect me to play. Like, I want to play the super ni, the super nice guy who is, you know, affable and kind of just like funny or whatever, and then he fucking rips people's necks apart when nobody's around.

• 57:48Will Arnett?

  So that's his mode, that's his mode is he rips people's necks apart?

• 57:51Sean Hayes?

  That's right. I wrote it down, you want me to send it to you?

• 57:53Will Arnett?

  Okay, again.

• 57:54Jason Bateman?

  What kind of weapon would you, would your guy use, Sean?

• 57:58Sean Hayes?

  Me, just my hands.

• 57:59Jason Bateman?

  Wow. Or I bet a cake knife.

• 58:00Will Arnett?

  How about, think about it for a second.

• 58:03Jason Bateman?

  Jesus, let me get the question out.

• 58:04Will Arnett?

  Just to try to cover up the motivation, let him finish the... Just my hands.

• 58:09Jason Bateman?

  But no, you know, kind of like, you know, like...

• 58:10Speaker 04

  Just ripping throats out with your hands.

• 58:12Jason Bateman?

  You know, like Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs, when we saw the movie, you're like, you're like, who is this guy? Like, he can't, like, no, he wasn't, I mean, he worked all the time before that, but that was what made him famous. You're like, wow, that's such a cool, crazy...

• 58:24Will Arnett?

  Sean, do we need to go look into your garage? Is this something, do we need to...

• 58:27Jason Bateman?

  Everything's fine, everything's fine, everything's fine.

• 58:32Jason Bateman?

  Willie, Willie, what about you?

• 58:33Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 58:34Will Arnett?

  What's that?

• 58:35Jason Bateman?

  What about, like, you could rub the genie bottle, next role, next part?

• 58:40Will Arnett?

  It's, uh, it's, uh...

• 58:41Jason Bateman?

  Or it could be a genre.

• 58:43Will Arnett?

  It's a newborn.

• 58:44Jason Bateman?

  The newborn?

• 58:45Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 58:46Jason Bateman?

  You'd like to be, you'd like to do some action work?

• 58:47Will Arnett?

  I'd take over, yeah. In the first scene, Matty and I battle it out, and then I, and with the silencer, I, uh, I take him out.

• 58:57Jason Bateman?

  And you take his wallet and his identification?

• 58:58Will Arnett?

  I take his identification, and right before he does, he, Damon looks at me and he goes, "You're the best." And then, and then I take over.

• 59:06Jason Bateman?

  Wow, but you haven't thought about it?

• 59:08Will Arnett?

  Well, I want him to compliment me before, you know what I mean?

• 59:12Jason Bateman?

  His last words. Now, do you, but in all honesty, if somebody came to you with, like, a big-ass action film right now, would you not think about the fact that the stunt work could be very challenging?

• 59:25Speaker 04

  I feel like, that stuff's exciting to me. I mean, that's, yeah, that all feels like...

• 59:29Jason Bateman?

  Well, you're younger than we are, though.

• 59:30Will Arnett?

  Yeah, he's a young guy, of course. I'm not scared of that, Jason.

• 59:33Jason Bateman?

  No, what about you, Will? Do you think you'd, you'd say yes to some stunt work? You'd blow out your fucking hammies coming out of your fucking dressing room.

• 59:43Sean Hayes?

  Coming out of your dressing room?

• 59:44Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 59:45Sean Hayes?

  Oh, I'm out, I'm out, I'm out!

• 59:48Will Arnett?

  Says you, JB would show up for his first stunt, and they'd be like, "You can't do this in slippers." But, uh, I think that, yeah, I would actually think about, more about the time that would take to be away to do something like that, and that, for sure, it would freak me out more than anything, to be honest.

• 1:00:02Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:03Speaker 04

  That's looking like six months, yeah.

• 1:00:04Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:05Jason Bateman?

  I know, it is, it is such a big factor in deciding, isn't it? Like, where am I gonna be and for how long and what, yeah?

• 1:00:11Will Arnett?

  Yeah, and, and we all have, you know, we have kids and, and you have lives and stuff, and especially at our age. I mean, Jeremy, you're, you're lucky that you're sort of young, you have all these kind of, but for me, I'm like, oh, God, I'm so tired.

• 1:00:24Speaker 04

  You have, you have a young one.

• 1:00:26Will Arnett?

  I do.

• 1:00:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:27Will Arnett?

  I do, I have, I have a five year old.

• 1:00:29Speaker 04

  Five.

• 1:00:30Will Arnett?

  I have a five year old and a fifteen year old and a seventeen year old. So these are like.

• 1:00:33Speaker 04

  You are tired.

• 1:00:34Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I am tired. And these are, although my five year old slept through the night last night, which he hasn't been doing for a while, but he did last night, which was a big, even though I look like crazy exhausted.

• 1:00:44Jason Bateman?

  Does he sleep in bed with you?

• 1:00:46Will Arnett?

  No, no.

• 1:00:47Jason Bateman?

  Cause that, that's a slippery slope.

• 1:00:49Will Arnett?

  But it is a slippery, you know, sometimes I'll go down and sort of get in and, and, and sort of calm him down. Sleep at that if he wakes up in the night, but yeah, he's, he's not a great sleeper.

• 1:00:59Will Arnett?

  But anyway, we're getting, you know, hey, listen, it's cool. I'm fifty five. Hey.

• 1:01:04Sean Hayes?

  Jer, when you, can you, can you?

• 1:01:06Will Arnett?

  Oh, is it Jer now?

• 1:01:07Jason Bateman?

  Yep.

• 1:01:08Sean Hayes?

  Jer Bear. Sure, why not? I don't have, I don't have the time.

• 1:01:12Will Arnett?

  Do people call you Jer? Do you have, are you called Jer by your friends?

• 1:01:15Speaker 04

  Jer, yeah. Jer, Jer Bears, yeah.

• 1:01:18Jason Bateman?

  Jer Bear, nice. How about Jaw Dog?

• 1:01:20Speaker 04

  Yeah. Jaw Dog is, yeah, a lot.

• 1:01:22Jason Bateman?

  No, truly?

• 1:01:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:24Jason Bateman?

  Yes.

• 1:01:25Speaker 04

  Yeah. Jaw was in like middle school, high school.

• 1:01:28Jason Bateman?

  Jawbone.

• 1:01:29Speaker 04

  On the bear, on the bear set, Jaw Dog is.

• 1:01:31Jason Bateman?

  Really?

• 1:01:32Speaker 04

  Around. This, I'm being genuine. Yes.

• 1:01:34Jason Bateman?

  I love it.

• 1:01:34Will Arnett?

  Jaw Dog.

• 1:01:35Sean Hayes?

  Yes, of course.

• 1:01:36Speaker 04

  Well, my, my initials, yeah, or J W, yeah.

• 1:01:40Will Arnett?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:41Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I got it. We, we can, we can do the math. So listen, um, uh, but when, cause I, I, I know what you mean.

• 1:01:48Will Arnett?

  Sean, your hair is distracting. Well, it looks terrible.

• 1:01:50Sean Hayes?

  I gotta get a cut, I'm getting a cut.

• 1:01:51Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, what time's the gig later on? You just, it, you just cover all Flock of Seagulls and nothing else, right?

• 1:01:57Sean Hayes?

  No, I have a figure skating gig next, a little bit.

• 1:02:01Sean Hayes?

  But Jer, Jer, do you have?

• 1:02:06Sean Hayes?

  When you, cause I talk about the anxiety thing and stuff like that. Do you, can you, when you're not working and you have family, can you shut it off and not think about? Agents and lawyers and deals and scripts and all that stuff? Can you completely separate or is it always kind of there?

• 1:02:22Speaker 04

  I, I think, yeah. I mean, that's, you know, uh, when I'm around, yeah, my kids, you're forced to just, you, you have to be completely present. It's like, um, so, so I guess that's, yeah, the, the second time I found kind of real. Peace or focus is, yeah, and having and having kids, everything just kind of like narrows. And you're like, oh, this is it. This is, you know, this is where my attention is. This is where I want to be. This is, you know.

• 1:02:52Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 1:02:53Speaker 04

  Um, and, uh, and, and so, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm able, uh, I'm able to do that when, when I'm, when I'm home. Yeah, for sure.

• 1:03:01Jason Bateman?

  And when it's not kids, when it's not, what else are you do, like, what is just you? What do you do to completely decompress?

• 1:03:10Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 1:03:11Jason Bateman?

  No work, no kids, something stupid, something settling. Is there, what, what would we be surprised to learn is your weird ass hobby or your shitty TV show that you watch?

• 1:03:21Speaker 04

  I mean, I watch, I, well, okay, so I, I, I'm obsessed with like r- r- reality, uh, real estate shows.

• 1:03:32Jason Bateman?

  Same.

• 1:03:33Speaker 04

  And I'm like always on my Realtor app. I don't buy anything, but I like to fantasize about.

• 1:03:39Jason Bateman?

  Me too.

• 1:03:40Speaker 04

  Like buying stuff all the time. That's why those shows are so popular.

• 1:03:43Will Arnett?

  We do too, the three of us do.

• 1:03:44Speaker 04

  It's insane. I send listings to friends and they're like, just buy it then. Like, what do you, like, what do you want from me? And I'm like, no, I don't know. I don't know.

• 1:03:53Jason Bateman?

  Wait, so like those like weird Realtors on these.

• 1:03:56Speaker 04

  Million Dollar Listing.

• 1:03:58Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:58Speaker 04

  Selling Sunset or. Owning Manhattan just started up again. I'm very excited. My guy, Ryan Serhant, yeah. Yeah, Ryan Serhant is like incredible. Came from nothing and built an empire. I'm very impressed by that man. Yes. No, I mean, it's cool. Yeah, but that's my, like, I, you know, I just like look at stuff. If I'm visiting like a, I don't know, I'm like traveling for work or even like, I like doing road trips. And if I'm in a small town, I think is really sweet. Instantly, I'm kind of on like Zillow or the Realtor app. And I'm like, what if I, what if I got another place here? What if I just like, you know, would come here all the time?

• 1:04:34Jason Bateman?

  What is that? I do the same thing. Wherever I go, I'm immediately thinking about getting a place there. Is it because that's how I could feel like at home there? So I'm not homesick?

• 1:04:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe it's a way to try to like get some control over. I feel like a lot of it comes back to control for me. Exactly. I want to be a local immediately.

• 1:04:52Will Arnett?

  What, what's the weirdest place that you ever like seriously considered? Like, maybe I will get a place here. Was there ever one of those?

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  Bisbee, Arizona. I was really considering, yeah, I did a road trip. I've driven cross country like four or five times and, um, And I did one from LA to New York in December. This was like, I don't know, 10 years ago. Um, and the first stop was Bisbee, Arizona, which is like a very small town. It looks kind of like Laurel Canyon, like the buildings are very pastel colors and there's it's kind of hilly. But it's in the middle of no, it's like desert, desert, desert, very small town, but very sweet. And um, we spent the night there in a bed and breakfast. Got up the next day, was like walking around, talking to locals. And everybody I spoke to, like, nobody was from Bisbee.

• 1:05:39Speaker 04

  Everybody was just passing through and then they opened a sandwich shop or they opened a clothing store. And it started to feel a little like Twilight episode-y where I was like, oh, maybe this is one of those towns you stop in and you just, you can't get out of. And I did get out, but then for about six months, I was considering getting like a

• 1:05:59Jason Bateman?

  Wow.

• 1:06:00Speaker 04

  A little house in Bisbee, Arizona.

• 1:06:01Jason Bateman?

  Now, what about these drives across country? Did you, did you, you ever have a big run in with a cop? Do you like to speed?

• 1:06:08Speaker 04

  I, I didn't, I, I'm really responsible on the road.

• 1:06:11Jason Bateman?

  You are? So you do the speed limit across the country?

• 1:06:14Speaker 04

  I go 10 above the speed limit.

• 1:06:15Jason Bateman?

  Okay.

• 1:06:16Will Arnett?

  Yeah, it's

• 1:06:16Jason Bateman?

  You set the cruise control?

• 1:06:17Will Arnett?

  They won't nab you.

• 1:06:18Speaker 04

  I just keep going at 10. Yeah, just uh, but I did get a flat in St. George when I was driving cross-country a couple of years ago. In the middle of the night, there was no one around. I didn't have cell service and that was spooky.

• 1:06:33Sean Hayes?

  That's the worst.

• 1:06:35Speaker 04

  And then I uh, and then I finally got a cop stopped and I got a spare. And I was gonna spend the night in Vegas. I was on my way back to LA. But there was like a fight night and everything was booked, everything. I'm talking like holiday inns were booked, all the nice hotels were booked. Eventually, I got a hotel room. It was like the only hotel room left in Las Vegas, but it was like $2,000 for the night.

• 1:06:59Jason Bateman?

  My God.

• 1:06:59Speaker 04

  It had a bowling out, it was like so absurd. So I spent $2,000 to like lie down at 2 AM and then pretty much get up at 6 AM to go get a real tire put on the car.

• 1:07:11Jason Bateman?

  Right, because you just had a little pizza cutter on it, right?

• 1:07:13Speaker 04

  I just needed to sleep, yeah.

• 1:07:14Sean Hayes?

  You just slept in your car.

• 1:07:16Speaker 04

  I should've, I should've.

• 1:07:18Sean Hayes?

  That's what I'm here for.

• 1:07:19Will Arnett?

  Oh, Sean. Yeah, Sean. Another thing for you, the list for your time machine.

• 1:07:26Sean Hayes?

  I know what you mean about that real like anytime Scotty and I go anywhere, we immediately go, I always ask them like, could you live here? Could you live here? Could you live there? And it's always a small point.

• 1:07:35Will Arnett?

  Like Dunkin franchises and stuff like that, right?

• 1:07:40Sean Hayes?

  No, but like, it's always the same thing where I think I would go, I think the idea of living smaller in a quaint town like Bisbee or whatever is great, but then the reality is, I don't know, this is New York or LA or Miami or Chicago, the city really keeps you kind of going and alive.

• 1:07:59Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I'd feel too isolated, I think.

• 1:08:01Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, a little bit.

• 1:08:02Jason Bateman?

  It needs a big town too.

• 1:08:04Will Arnett?

  Well, you're, for two things, A, Sean, that is, Sean does do that because I know for a fact, you, Sean will go even further, he won't even just look at online, he'll go and look at property with a local Realtor, that's a true.

• 1:08:14Sean Hayes?

  For sure, 100%.

• 1:08:15Will Arnett?

  He does it, he does it all the time.

• 1:08:16Sean Hayes?

  All the time.

• 1:08:16Speaker 04

  Oh, whoa, that's commitment, and but you bought and you'll pull the trigger?

• 1:08:22Sean Hayes?

  No, god, no.

• 1:08:22Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:08:23Sean Hayes?

  I just like wasting time.

• 1:08:24Will Arnett?

  He's wasting so many Realtors' time, it's not even funny. He's like persona non grata. A real whale, yeah. Yeah, but the other thing that I've noticed, sorry, go ahead, Sean.

• 1:08:34Sean Hayes?

  No, just to get to that idea, Jeremy, the idea, like, do you come from a small town and you prefer cities now?

• 1:08:39Speaker 04

  No, I grew up in Brooklyn.

• 1:08:41Will Arnett?

  He's from Brooklyn, you were here at the start of the show, right?

• 1:08:44Sean Hayes?

  I know, but like, Brooklyn isn't like a, like, you know, Brooklyn's city, like, so do you,

• 1:08:48Jason Bateman?

  Go on.

• 1:08:49Sean Hayes?

  Do you prefer the opposite of that as you get older? Cause you didn't grow up that way?

• 1:08:53Speaker 04

  Maybe, I mean, yeah, I definitely like the idea of maybe one day having a place that's more slow moving and I have, you know, a smaller place in LA, or if I'm back in New York, I have an apartment in the city and go upstate or Long Island or something like that.

• 1:09:11Jason Bateman?

  You ever see yourself getting like a bunch of land and being like one of those guys with a bunch of like ranch, ranch tools and?

• 1:09:16Sean Hayes?

  Like Kevin Costner.

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  Again, like the fantasy of it, yeah, I think.

• 1:09:21Will Arnett?

  Quite the props. What is it, Jason, stuff that the prop department hands you?

• 1:09:25Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, you know, one of those cap guns.

• 1:09:29Will Arnett?

  You're holding it upside down, Mr. Bateman.

• 1:09:32Speaker 04

  I'd be so useless. I think for a week it could be fun, yeah.

• 1:09:36Will Arnett?

  Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

• 1:09:37Speaker 04

  To have the fantasy of it, but no, very quickly I'd realize there's no.

• 1:09:40Will Arnett?

  I could see you upstate. I could see you upstate, or on Long Island.

• 1:09:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, I have some friends that are up there and, you know, I think it's sweet. And then, yeah, Long Island I think is really nice. And I rented a place last summer there that I really loved.

• 1:09:55Will Arnett?

  Beautiful. We love Long Island.

• 1:09:57Speaker 04

  And, yeah, and all my people, my folks are still in Brooklyn. My sister's in Brooklyn.

• 1:10:01Will Arnett?

  Oh, yeah, that's great.

• 1:10:02Speaker 04

  So I like going back there and being close.

• 1:10:04Jason Bateman?

  Well, personally, I'd like you to stay here in Los Angeles so we can see each other.

• 1:10:08Speaker 04

  It is nice.

• 1:10:09Jason Bateman?

  We've got many dates ahead of us.

• 1:10:11Speaker 04

  What was the last movie night?

• 1:10:12Jason Bateman?

  It's been a while. I mean, I'm still watching them. But the door's still unlocked, ajar even, waiting for you people to come back.

• 1:10:20Will Arnett?

  Fucking less creepy would be great. Just a little less creepy would be nice.

• 1:10:24Jason Bateman?

  That's the name of my autobiography, "The Door's a Jar."

• 1:10:27Will Arnett?

  "The Door's a Jar."

• 1:10:30Will Arnett?

  That's disgusting. God, it's so gross. Jeremy Allen White, you are the man, man.

• 1:10:37Speaker 04

  Jeremy Allen White, appreciate you.

• 1:10:38Will Arnett?

  Chodog.

• 1:10:40Speaker 04

  Chodog.

• 1:10:41Will Arnett?

  Chodog! It's just incredible. No, listen, continued success. Congrats on all of it. It's so well deserved. You've worked hard for it and you've been just consistently great all the way along. So we're big, big fans. I speak for Sean. Jason has his own take on it, which is a little more lascivious.

• 1:11:00Jason Bateman?

  No, I'm not there yet.

• 1:11:02Will Arnett?

  Okay.

• 1:11:04Speaker 04

  I'm working on him.

• 1:11:04Jason Bateman?

  I'm trying to play hard to get. Love you, Jeremy.

• 1:11:07Speaker 04

  I really appreciate it, you guys.

• 1:11:08Jason Bateman?

  Get over here again.

• 1:11:09Speaker 04

  This is a pleasure. Thank you, thank you. Nice to meet you, Sean.

• 1:11:11Jason Bateman?

  Thanks for doing this, buddy.

• 1:11:12Speaker 04

  You're good, you guys. You're the best.

• 1:11:14Jason Bateman?

  See you soon, man.

• 1:11:14Speaker 04

  See you, see you.

• 1:11:18Jason Bateman?

  Will, did you get that full plate of food done? I know.

• 1:11:20Will Arnett?

  First of all, he said you're the best and he was looking at me. Do you see that?

• 1:11:23Jason Bateman?

  No, he was looking at my box, my box.

• 1:11:25Will Arnett?

  He was looking at me.

• 1:11:26Jason Bateman?

  Hey, you had a full plate of food delivered to you at the beginning of that interview. Did you get it all done? What is it? It was like matzah bris or something?

• 1:11:32Will Arnett?

  Like a chicken salad.

• 1:11:33Jason Bateman?

  Oh, it's chicken salad.

• 1:11:34Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:35Jason Bateman?

  And who was that? It would seem like somebody was on their hands and knees down there at the door opening. What was that?

• 1:11:41Will Arnett?

  She didn't want to interrupt. She didn't want to interrupt. It was Carolyn.

• 1:11:43Jason Bateman?

  No. It was Carolyn? That was Carolyn on her hands and knees?

• 1:11:46Will Arnett?

  She wasn't on her hands and knees. She bent down to put it at the door because she didn't want to interrupt. She was being very respectful.

• 1:11:52Jason Bateman?

  She should have come in, said hi. I love her.

• 1:11:54Will Arnett?

  I know.

• 1:11:55Jason Bateman?

  Love her. Don't you mess that up, Will.

• 1:11:57Will Arnett?

  Oh my god.

• 1:11:59Jason Bateman?

  If it starts to get wobbly, just hand it over and let us fix it and then we'll give it back.

• 1:12:07Jason Bateman?

  That's how relationships work, right?

• 1:12:08Will Arnett?

  Yeah, sure. That's exactly how it works.

• 1:12:10Jason Bateman?

  Hand it over. Oh my god, I'm out of milk.

• 1:12:14Will Arnett?

  Sean, Sean, is this the same snickerdoodle?

• 1:12:16Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it just killed it. Killed the last bite. Good boy. No, there's some more left. Well, I really, I'm never met him. Oh, he's just the greatest.

• 1:12:24Will Arnett?

  He's such a nice guy. I've only met him a couple times, but he's so nice.

• 1:12:27Jason Bateman?

  He's a good, normal person. Really great. It would have been great up there on that stage. Are we gonna reschedule that? Are we gonna do, are we gonna do the bowl maybe like in the spring or something like that, maybe?

• 1:12:36Will Arnett?

  Let's make a commitment that we're gonna do something.

• 1:12:38Jason Bateman?

  Spring, summer? Yeah, why don't we do the bowl, or let's for sure do it when it's not rainy season. We can't do it in the summer, because they do the, the, the Philharmonic there in the summer.

• 1:12:46Will Arnett?

  Every night?

• 1:12:48Jason Bateman?

  Most of it's programmed. Why can't you do it over the summer? Or what about the beginning? The LA Phil's in there through the summer. But, I mean, one night.

• 1:12:55Will Arnett?

  Or like October, before the rain starts, you know.

• 1:12:58Jason Bateman?

  No, don't argue with me. I'm happy to do it at any point. I think it's all about the guests. When, when can we get guests in there?

• 1:13:04Will Arnett?

  Yeah, you're right.

• 1:13:04Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we gotta, we gotta get some big shot guests, because we're, we're not cutting it, okay? People aren't coming out to see us blather on, sitting on a couch. They wanna see the stars. How did you and Jeremy meet again? Uh, Grindr. Oh, wow. Wow.

• 1:13:21Will Arnett?

  He's so kidding about it. JB, I didn't, I don't, JB, you didn't know this, Sean didn't wanna say it because he's embarrassed, because the same guy created, uh, The Bear. Sean is about to do, they're doing a spinoff, he's doing The Cub.

• 1:13:34Will Arnett?

  It's a different show.

• 1:13:35Jason Bateman?

  Are they doing, doing The Cub?

• 1:13:37Will Arnett?

  It's on YouTube, or it's on Pornhub, Pornhub or whatever. But whatever, doesn't matter. Hey, listen, it sounds fun. Sounds fun.

• 1:13:45Jason Bateman?

  By the way, when I saw the title of The Bear, I was like, I'm in, click.

• 1:13:50Will Arnett?

  Oh, it's about a restaurant.

• 1:13:51Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, click on it.

• 1:13:54Sean Hayes?

  People talking about food.

• 1:13:57Jason Bateman?

  Wait, is Grindr, is Grindr the hetero one or the gay one?

• 1:14:00Will Arnett?

  Nice try.

• 1:14:01Jason Bateman?

  Which one's Tinder?

• 1:14:02Will Arnett?

  Oh, yeah. Hey, I'm confused.

• 1:14:03Jason Bateman?

  I don't believe a word you're saying.

• 1:14:05Will Arnett?

  What are you doing here? I'm so confused.

• 1:14:06Jason Bateman?

  Hand to God on my kid's life. I don't, which is, which is which?

• 1:14:09Sean Hayes?

  Which is what? What are you asking?

• 1:14:11Jason Bateman?

  Is it Tinder's? One of them's the gay one, one of them's the straight one.

• 1:14:14Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, Grindr's the gay one. Just think G gay.

• 1:14:16Will Arnett?

  You're acting so nervous. You're being, you're acting so nervous right now.

• 1:14:17Jason Bateman?

  I just want to make sure they get that on.

• 1:14:18Sean Hayes?

  And he's like, delete account. Delete account.

• 1:14:23Sean Hayes?

  Wait, you know, when Jeremy was playing Bruce Springsteen.

• 1:14:27Will Arnett?

  Oh, boy. Here we go. Jesus.

• 1:14:28Sean Hayes?

  There is a song that I wonder, because I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen the show yet, and I wonder if he sang the song in the movie called Johnny Bye Bye? Do you know that song that?

• 1:14:38Will Arnett?

  At least commit to it.

• 1:14:40Sean Hayes?

  No, I was just like.

• 1:14:40Jason Bateman?

  Don't just go right bye.

• 1:14:42Sean Hayes?

  Bye.

• 1:14:45Jason Bateman?

  Bye.

• 1:14:45Will Arnett?

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