STAYING ALIVE: Will Arnett, Part 1!

Hey, Smarties! Please enjoy the first half of this hilarious, in-depth interview with Will Arnett on SmartLess Media’s show Staying Alive! Hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally (101 Places To Party Before You Die) sit down with Will to ask him about keeping in shape, cutting out sugar, viral podcast clips, and the nuts and bolts of making his new film, Is This Thing On? Plus, Pally has a text exchange with Will that he’d like to ask him about, and Gabrus might have to buy new budgie smugglers. Go to the Staying Alive feed HERE for Part 2! Full video episodes available HERE. Check out Will’s movie Is This Thing On? HERE. Check out Staying Alive merch at siriusxmstore.com/stayingalive This episode was recorded February 5, 2026 on the information superhighway Staying Alive is produced by Devon Torrey Bryant and Anne Harris Engineered and edited by Devon Torrey Bryant, who also wrote the music Associate producer and video editor is Maddie McCann Executive produced by Jon Gabrus, Adam Pally, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Bernie Kaminski, and Rich Korson Keywords for this episode: Tony Stark, Castaway, Springsteen, Romesh Ranganathan, tattoos, budgie smugglers, Rubirosa, CAA, New Zealand, metric system, sushi, street fighting, Basil Hayden, Zyn, nicotine, OnlyFans, Tom Hanks, Wes Anderson, Bradley Cooper, Bob Castrone, The Comedy Cellar, prop comedy, Tony Gilroy, Pedro Pascal

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

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• 2:35Speaker 02

  Hey, Smartless listeners, it's John Gabris, one of the hosts of Staying Alive, a health and wellness podcast hosted by the unhealthy and unwell. That's Adam Pally and I. And we've got Will Arnett on our pod today. We got to spend some QT interviewing our podfather, and we went deep with him about is this thing on, Bradley Cooper, eating right, fitness, sugar, all the stuff we cover on our show. So please enjoy the first part of the interview with Will. And if you like what you hear, come on over to Staying Alive and to hear the second half, hit subscribe or follow while you're there.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  Hey, Will, thanks for doing this.

• 3:12Speaker 03

  Whoa, dude, thank you so much.

• 3:14Will Arnett?

  Gents?

• 3:15Speaker 03

  How you doing? Dude, you look awesome. Look at that facial hair.

• 3:19Will Arnett?

  Really? Oh, thanks.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. You got some sun? Yeah, you got some sun and you got some Iron Man fucking...

• 3:26Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I was just shipwrecked.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  Nice, dude.

• 3:31Will Arnett?

  You don't hear about it that often anymore about people being shipwrecked. It's fucking old school.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  But I knew I had to do Staying Alive, so I paddled to shore to make sure I did this stupid fucking podcast with you.

• 3:56Speaker 03

  I hope that the intro music, are we allowed to play other artists intro music or it just has to be ours?

• 4:01Speaker 02

  I think we should keep it to be just ours.

• 4:03Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. So it would be cool if today we could play something from Bruce Springsteen because the boss is here.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  Yes, our boss is here. He does not like, we will learn that he does not like to be called the boss, but he's our pod father.

• 4:20Speaker 03

  He is the boss.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  Will Arnett on the podcast today, big guest, so we're not going to go into a long cold open because we don't want to turn off anyone who's here to hear Will and not understand that.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  It's for anyone new, welcome. We hope that you, you can learn a little something about what it takes to stay alive as you get older and you don't necessarily play by the rules all the time.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, without further ado, I'm learning French. Will Arnett.

• 4:49Speaker 03

  Is that your next Duolingo?

• 4:51Speaker 02

  Trio lingo.

• 4:59Will Arnett?

  The podcasts lately, oh, I've been feeling a little podcast burn lately. I've just.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  No, of course not advertisers, we love it.

• 5:12Will Arnett?

  It's so.

• 5:14Speaker 03

  Working your ass off?

• 5:15Will Arnett?

  I mean, it's, I did this podcast with this guy in the UK. He's so fun. I mean, I forget how long ago, it was like, whatever, a couple of months ago. And do you know this dude, Romech?

• 5:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:31Will Arnett?

  He's so funny. He's really, really funny. So this podcast and he asked me, and I told him this, like, I have this controversial position. I said, there's a direct relationship. Yeah. And I said, the more tattoos you are, the more you have, the more boring you are. Now, I was very clear. A, it's something that I've said to my friends with, I don't have any, that I've said to my friends with tattoos for years and it's, and it's basically a bit, right?

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:56Will Arnett?

  What I say with it, the people are freaking out in the comments and the thing. And then I'm like, what a boring response. If you're, if you're insulted by it, then you're proving my point. But the truth is, I don't have a point. I didn't even mean it because I have a million friends who are covered with tattoos and people are insulted by it. It's insanity, man.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's crazy when you realize that bullshit is news. Like all of a sudden you're like, Will Arnett says they did have a guy on Smartless that they didn't air or whatever. This goes everywhere and you're like, who is this matter to? It doesn't even matter to Will.

• 6:31Will Arnett?

  Have you, it doesn't matter to me at all.

• 6:35Speaker 02

  It matters to podcasts, not blog spots.

• 6:40Will Arnett?

  Most of them are just to fuck around in the moment, right? And then you're like, and then you hold it up, let's read this back in court. So your theory on tattoos, it was not a theory. It's a bit.

• 6:50Speaker 02

  You said here you like, you love to go swimming with bow legged women. Is that correct? It's like, I was quoting a fucking movie.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  Anytime you get, like, even do, this is all a net loss. Like, this can only hurt. This can only hurt.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  That's why we are so thankful that you're coming on our podcast because it's only, it's just.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  You're our boss.

• 7:12Speaker 02

  It's just a fucking minefield of like.

• 7:16Will Arnett?

  That's a very loose, yeah.

• 7:18Speaker 03

  Well, if you're not our boss, that means Rich is our boss and that is a problem.

• 7:24Will Arnett?

  That is. You're right. By the way, that's a problem for everybody.

• 7:28Speaker 02

  If you prefer the term podfather, we could do that too.

• 7:31Will Arnett?

  Oh, I like that. Yeah.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  You know what I wanted to ask you? Will, like, is.

• 7:36Will Arnett?

  Please be about tattoos. Please be about tattoos.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  No, it's not.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  You're talking to guys who have matching tattoos. We are wildly boring.

• 7:43Speaker 03

  I can give a fuck about, when I saw that, he was like, you know what? He's kind of right. I am a drag guy.

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• 10:57Sean Hayes?

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• 12:16Speaker 03

  My head goes instantly to, cause now you're like a dramatic leading man.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  Is to, what, like, do you feel, how are you thin? How, how are you looking like this? Oh, oh, oh, physically. And physi-, oh yeah. Like, how, because, because the, our show is about staying alive, like, cause we're too out of shape, or better in shape now, we're, we're.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  We're doing pretty.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  I don't know if it's the show, or like dark medical revelations in our lives.

• 12:50Speaker 03

  You guys look good.

• 12:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:52Speaker 03

  We're a better, we're a better place.

• 12:53Speaker 02

  I'm like down 20 pounds.

• 12:55Speaker 03

  You see?

• 12:55Speaker 02

  Pretty wild, yeah. I'm under 300 for the first time in like 10 years, it feels amazing. I might have to start buying new budgie smugglers.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  But like, so what are you, what are you doing to stay alive? Like, are you, because I have a text exchange that you and I have. Yeah. That I found on my phone today from over the summer that I could read to you. That we might have to edit? I don't think we do, it's pretty, I don't think we do. Okay. It's pretty, it's pretty base and it heads into the question. Starts with, uh, Long Island baby, where are you at? Headed to Ruby Rosa to eat my weight in red sauce. What are you doing? No can do on pizza, but let's hang out this week. Then I wrote back, what are you doing to keep that Walton Goggins physique?

• 13:51Speaker 03

  And then you wrote back, you wrote back, I start by not eating, then I smoke a couple butts, repeat every day.

• 14:01Speaker 02

  And as always, we are not doctors on this show, do not take any medical advice.

• 14:05Speaker 03

  Someone who struggles, who struggles with everything, including the smoking. Yeah.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  I'm blood type marinara at this point, so I get it, I get.

• 14:17Will Arnett?

  I

• 14:19Will Arnett?

  Yeah, it's that old school diet man of just right. I look, I look, I think a lot of people, I look like that dude who like now that I'm looking on the thing here, I look like that dude who's like kind of tan and smokes butts and drinks coffee.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, drinks coffee, plays, plays chess.

• 14:36Will Arnett?

  I became the guy that I used to go to my buddies. Hey, look at that guy.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  We all do.

• 14:41Speaker 02

  That's who I aspire to be.

• 14:43Speaker 03

  Look at me. I look like fucking Marc Maron drowned in a pool.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I look like an offensive lineman in court for a fucking DUI.

• 15:01Will Arnett?

  I uh.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  Lock the gates. How come you didn't lock the gates? I drowned in the pool.

• 15:08Will Arnett?

  Jesus Christ. Jesus.

• 15:15Will Arnett?

  I, you know what the truth is about, what do we, uh, about 18 months ago?

• 15:24Will Arnett?

  One of my agents was like, hey, you should go talk to this doctor, like out of the blue.

• 15:31Speaker 02

  Not out of the, out of the blue for you, but that's something that was on the agent's mind.

• 15:35Speaker 03

  Ever out of the blue, man.

• 15:38Will Arnett?

  Meanwhile, like the CIA had a morning meeting about my weight.

• 15:43Will Arnett?

  And they go, and he goes, you should go see this dude who's basically like a nutritionist and talk. He's like, what? So I was so, and that's a true story. And I was like, uh, you know, I think I always was able to stay thin and then I got over 50 and as you know, like it just, it gets hard when you're over 50. It's just, and they're like, so I'm gonna eat what I want, but I'll just work out and then you just get massive. So, so, so I was like, what do I do? So I went to see this guy and he helped me look at the stuff I was eating. And he was like, okay. And like, you know, you tell him, he's like, how, what do you, you know, you tell him like, it's not that bad. And then you tell him, he's like, wow, that's terrible. And you're like, oh shit, really?

• 16:21Speaker 02

  Right. The worst with those kinds of situations is when you downplay what you're doing and they still say it's bad. You're like, yeah, I have like two beers, like a couple of nights a week. And they're like, that's really bad. I'm like, oh, I was lying already. That's the good.

• 16:34Will Arnett?

  I did that once years ago when I used to drink and this guy said that I went to this doctor and I could tell and I go, this is like early nineties and he goes, how much do you drink? And I said, I'm thinking like, when is it gonna be? I go, probably six drinks a week. He's like, that's a lot. And I'm thinking, motherfucker, that's before I go out, I have six drinks.

• 16:52Speaker 03

  That's a day.

• 16:54Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Adam and I are very adjusted to telling a doctor, not cigarettes whenever they have to smoke.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  And I can't even do that anymore. I've regressed. I've regressed, so I can't even do that anymore. Now I'm lying about cigarettes to a doctor in New Zealand who's like filling out a physical, I'm like sitting in like the, in order to get to set, they're like, a doctor's gonna come in here, you all right with that? I'm like, yeah, whatever. Guy comes in, he's like, says he ate, uh, uh, three to five drinks a day? I was like, I don't.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

• 17:31Will Arnett?

  I didn't even fill that out. Somebody else wrote that.

• 17:33Speaker 03

  Someone else guessed that when they saw me.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  Well, it's metric, it's metric down here, right? So yeah, it's not actually the same amount.

• 17:40Will Arnett?

  Yeah. And a day, you mean tomorrow, cause tomorrow is our yesterday. So.

• 17:45Speaker 02

  So I'm, yeah. Oh, we're not doing time zones? Okay.

• 17:48Speaker 03

  Next thing I know, he's like writing like psychopathic conversation.

• 17:54Will Arnett?

  Borderline personality disorder.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  Borderline.

• 17:58Will Arnett?

  I, and so the truth is actually, so I, uh, I, I cut, I ended up cutting out basically sugar, uh, which is my number one, I think my number one addiction, um, cause I won't, cause I'm not addicted to cigarettes and they're addicted to me.

• 18:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, cigarettes and I are synergistic. We help each other.

• 18:24Will Arnett?

  They've never let me down. They've never lied to me. They always told me what they were gonna do.

• 18:31Speaker 03

  Meanwhile, they're like lying to you from the moment you.

• 18:36Speaker 03

  I, uh, I, I was gonna say like sugar, when you say no sugar, like how strict are we talking? Are we talking like no, like you go out to sushi, you're doing sashimi?

• 18:45Will Arnett?

  Yeah, basically when I'm really doing it, it, uh, so I go, I eat, oh God, it's so boring, but.

• 18:52Speaker 02

  Not on this podcast.

• 18:53Will Arnett?

  I know, I know.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Also, we kind of live in the boring world, so don't let, don't.

• 18:56Speaker 03

  I got a bunch of tattoos, man. This is the shit I'm into.

• 19:03Will Arnett?

  It's so good. It's so good.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  You're like, I hated that this blurb went around and we've brought it up 11 times.

• 19:11Will Arnett?

  No, I love it because it's so dumb because it was so meaningless.

• 19:17Will Arnett?

  Ramesh is laughing himself to death.

• 19:19Speaker 03

  You know what I took from that clip is like, Ramesh is like, he's like, I have a lot of tattoos. Am I boring? And I wanted to be like, no, but the Apple Watch is making you boring.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  We should be.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Tattoos are fine. It's the Apple Watch.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  So you, you, you cut out sugar.

• 19:37Will Arnett?

  I basically, like I.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  Was that difficult? Like, do you have any hat, anything that you did for yourself? Like any substitutes or anything like that that were like?

• 19:45Will Arnett?

  Dude, dude, I'm addicted to ice cream. I fucking love ice cream. Like.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  My favorite sweet.

• 19:50Will Arnett?

  It's my fucking favorite. So I'm like, like every day for me is like a nine year old's birthday party leading up to this. Every day you'd be like, what are you, what are you doing? And so, so I had to like go, so I had to go. To answer your question, I couldn't, I didn't even go for sushi because I couldn't, I was too nervous that I wanted to eat the rice. Right? So then I just, so every day I'd wake up and, and eventually I started, I was doing like, I was doing like, uh, a little bit of oats and then some berries and whatever. And then like a little snack and then lunch, I have a salad with chicken. And then at dinner, I have to have like 18 ounces of protein, fish or, or meat and some veggies.

• 20:30Will Arnett?

  And then, actually there's a crazy thing here. So I did that. And then eventually he, and I could have a cup of rice with lunch. Then he got, and then like 45 days into it, he's like, now you gotta cut all the carbs. So now I have none. And I don't have a cheat day. I have a cheat meal once a week. Every seven days I have one cheat meal.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 20:48Will Arnett?

  Yeah. And he's like, don't go downtown on your, go uptown, meaning like, don't eat a bunch of crap on your cheat meal. Don't go to like Taco Bell and McDonald's.

• 20:55Speaker 02

  Right.

• 20:56Will Arnett?

  Have a nice dessert. Yeah. Have a nice dessert that doesn't have like a bunch of preservatives in it. And so I've kind of stayed to that for the last year and a half. And I've had a couple of times where I haven't been able to, but for the most part I've, I've stuck with it and exercised at the same time. And, and it's been pretty good. Here's a cool thing that he taught me.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  What kind of exercise are we doing?

• 21:18Will Arnett?

  I just, I just do, you know, street fighting mainly. A lot of street fighting.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, your Kimbo Slice in the backyards of Florida.

• 21:26Will Arnett?

  It's hard to find a good gym. It's hard to find a good gym.

• 21:29Speaker 03

  It's easy to find a street fight.

• 21:35Will Arnett?

  I'm doing, you know, I do, I, pretty light in, in terms of the gym, pretty light. I was doing this thing where I was like, uh, and I do, uh, uh, I don't do it as much anymore just because of, uh, time, whatever, but I was doing this boxing thing called Fight Camp. And, uh, Thoreau turned me on to it and it's like, you get like, uh, it's almost like Peloton for, for boxing. I look like the

• 21:56Speaker 03

  I'm into it.

• 21:57Will Arnett?

  Loserous boxer of all time.

• 21:59Speaker 03

  Oh, I'm the worst in that. I'm the worst in there.

• 22:00Will Arnett?

  But the cardio of it was really great. So, so I do that a couple of days a week. I do these like, sort of, uh, long walks and or hikes and then I do stuff with like kettlebell, pretty light stuff.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  You got a trainer? You're doing this on your own?

• 22:13Will Arnett?

  No, I do it on my own. I'm pretty consistent.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  That's cool.

• 22:16Will Arnett?

  Yeah. And, and, uh, and so that, that's been good. He taught me this really cool thing, which is, he's like 40 minutes before you go to bed, before you're gonna go to sleep, eat like a cup of berries or a sorbet, and he gave me a couple brands.

• 22:34Will Arnett?

  So that you get that, that spike of natural sugar. And then you'll crash and you'll have a, you'll go into sleep better and you'll sleep better. And he, god damn it, he was right.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  Oh, and, and there's probably the psychological element of like, now I get to have my treat.

• 22:50Will Arnett?

  You get a little.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  And then it's like, and a little treat and then you're going to bed and like, oh, that's a real interesting wind down.

• 22:57Will Arnett?

  Pretty insane. Pretty insane.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  My version of that is I switched from a joint and a bourbon to a joint and a chamomile tea.

• 23:04Will Arnett?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 23:05Speaker 02

  And I'm out on my balcony sipping tea and having an indica and I'm like, I'm gonna sleep like a baby. And it's so much better for me than two, two fingers of fucking, uh, Basil Hayden's.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  Two fingers. Much like, much like my OnlyFans, I prefer a little more than two fingers.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, alcohol is the big, alcohol is the big thing that like, uh, I mean.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  It's the saboteur of your health. It's like, you let it in.

• 23:32Speaker 03

  A one killer.

• 23:33Will Arnett?

  It's, it's trash and it's for a lot of different reasons. And yeah, I'm, I don't drink, I'm so happy that I don't for, for myriad reasons. But one of them is, you know, the, every time there's a new study that comes out, which is like every four hours.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  Every four hours, Huberman's making a fucking proclamation about, I can't believe we ever drank alcohol. You're like, oh, come on, man.

• 23:57Will Arnett?

  And I'm, I just think, oh, thank God I don't. And I do, I do feel better as a result of it. And you can't do it as you get older too. Like you just can't, like your body can't do it.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  It's harder. It's, it takes more and more of a toll on you every year.

• 24:08Will Arnett?

  I want to quit smoking butts. I really do. And, uh, and I, and I don't smoke as much as I used to.

• 24:15Speaker 03

  Are you zinning?

• 24:16Will Arnett?

  Yeah. I mean, I just put one out. I just stubbed one out.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  That's, that's, that's the level. I, I have a problem zinning. I can't do it. I can't.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  So many of my friends are zinning. So many of my friends are zinning and still blasting cigs, which is like, I'm like.

• 24:31Will Arnett?

  Yeah, it's me. I don't do it at the same time.

• 24:33Speaker 02

  At the same time. So someone, I've got people who are telling me that nicotine is actually like a nootropic and it's like, it's like a performance enhancer.

• 24:42Will Arnett?

  Well, we just, we did, we actually just had Huberman on, on the podcast. I gotta say, he was pretty great. And I ended up being fascinated with everything he was saying. I didn't want it to end. And I was like, and then what if I do this? And what if I like, I was like the little kid, you know? And he talked about nicotine and how great it is.

• 25:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. I just look like I have nine zins in my mouth at all times.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  Will's, Will's hitting the five milli, uh, what do they call them? The, the, uh, five mil lip pillow or whatever?

• 25:13Will Arnett?

  I'm on the, I'm on the three right now, but I go back and forth between the three and the sixes.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  And then, and then, and what does it do? It's just like a pouch, like a baseball player? Or is it like, uh, where you swallow it or like?

• 25:24Will Arnett?

  No, no. You just put it, you just put it between your lip and your teeth. It takes a second to get used to. It's like these little pouches like this.

• 25:30Speaker 02

  And we, I know for a fact based on experience that Adam can't handle just packing a lip with something. We, we did, we did recreational ketamine together and you're supposed to just put it in your lip and Adam's like, I chewed it and swallowed it. I was like, what the fuck?

• 25:43Will Arnett?

  You can't leave it there.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  It's like a little kid.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  I played baseball in high school and like.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  Swallowing sunflower seeds.

• 25:52Speaker 03

  As soon as that shit started, like as soon as you go from sunflower seeds to like the first kid brings in chewing tobacco. I was just like, like, I can't, I could never pack a lip in high school. I can't do it.

• 26:01Will Arnett?

  I have a weird, that's funny you saying that. I have a weird time off. Half the time when I would go to get it out of my lip, I start to gag.

• 26:09Speaker 03

  I got something about that, that place. There's also, I can't, I also gag when I put my contact lenses.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Well, I think you're supposed to put them in your eyes, not at the back of your throat.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  I have no gag reflex. Again, I'm sorry. That's for my OnlyFans. Clip that, clip that for my OnlyFans.

• 26:28Will Arnett?

  Fuck, that's a great clip on its own.

• 26:30Speaker 03

  That's gonna be the clip.

• 26:31Will Arnett?

  That, I mean.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  I get somehow gets credited to Will, unfortunately. It's like Will Arnett's got no.

• 26:37Speaker 03

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• 26:42Will Arnett?

  Never live it down.

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• 28:54Will Arnett?

  It does make you think, it does make you think about Tom Hanks. God, he's done so many different things. It's, the dude's kinda unreal.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  I was just thinking about his run the other day, like-

• 29:03Will Arnett?

  It's unreal, right?

• 29:05Speaker 03

  His run, his run from like, uh, Joe versus the volcano, maybe? Even, I mean Splash is the original, but like, he made a few clunkers. I mean-

• 29:15Speaker 02

  They didn't, they never stuck. They never stuck to him.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  They didn't stick to him, yeah.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  Like a clunker for Tom Hanks.

• 29:20Will Arnett?

  Yeah, but he made like 60 movies, and he made like 30 really good movies, so like-

• 29:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, half of them.

• 29:27Will Arnett?

  I'm gonna let him have, I mean, mine is, I made only clunkers.

• 29:32Speaker 03

  Dude, I was gonna say, like, do you know, if you looked at my IMDB, like, my average, I'm batting 164 in the minors.

• 29:41Speaker 02

  Hanks also did like 10 years of dominating comedy, and then switched to drama, and then was the go-to drama guy for like another decade, like-

• 29:49Speaker 03

  Similar to you, Will. You're a little late, but a little late.

• 29:54Speaker 02

  Brother Solomon.

• 29:55Will Arnett?

  I don't think I'm dominating anything.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  I don't know, dude, I think, it depends on how you look at it, like, this is your turn to Hanks run it, just a couple years later than he did.

• 30:07Speaker 02

  We're just doing a few more terminals than anyone else.

• 30:09Will Arnett?

  I decided to wait till I was 55. Because I didn't want to embarrass anybody.

• 30:16Speaker 03

  I love it when people, people do say to me sometimes they're like, do you ever think about doing like a, a drama, like change it up? And I'm always like, Yeah.

• 30:24Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  I'm trying to do comedy.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  I think about it all the time.

• 30:29Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:30Speaker 03

  What you got?

• 30:31Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:33Will Arnett?

  Like, you know what you gotta do? You gotta work with really good directors.

• 30:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:37Will Arnett?

  Okay.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, great.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  I'm done.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  I'm available. I would love that. Have you showed them my extensive 20 year television career?

• 30:45Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  Cause I have, you could Google me.

• 30:49Will Arnett?

  You got a number on them? Let me just, you got a number on them?

• 30:51Speaker 03

  It's like, oh, it'd be so cool if you worked with Wes Anderson. You're like, fuck, yeah, it would.

• 30:55Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  It would be fucking awesome. It was cruel.

• 30:59Speaker 02

  That's the real like grown up version of your aunt saying like, have you, you should do the Conan O'Brien show. You should do what he does, you know? And you're like, yeah, I would love to.

• 31:08Will Arnett?

  You're right. I should.

• 31:10Speaker 02

  I should get on SNL at 44. I could speed run my fucking, uh, speedball death.

• 31:20Speaker 03

  I was gonna ask you about this press run that you, that you've been doing because it's a dream of, of mine as someone who's worked, you know, in comedy at the way you have for a long time, to see you doing the like, a,

• 31:36Speaker 03

  like Academy Award run press tour. Where you're like in cool clothes and like, you know what I mean? And there's like pictures of you in a swimming pool with clothes on.

• 31:48Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  You know, and there's like,

• 31:52Speaker 02

  Sitting cross legged in like, uh, the W lobby with like, with a bourbon or something.

• 31:58Speaker 03

  And like, and then there's like an interview with you and Odessa Zion together. You're like, you're doing it, you know, like. How does that feel like? Do you ever, does the comedian part of you ever, cause I consider you like a comedian, you are one of the, you're a comedian. Like, do you, does that side of your brain ever click on while you're doing, while you're doing it all? While you're like, wow, this is new?

• 32:25Will Arnett?

  A gazillion percent. And so what the difference is, well, I, I spent a lot, long time, you know, doing stuff and fucking around. And what happens is by the end, like when you do something with, as part of that, when you go and you do something like with Ramesh and I'm just dicking around, it's so fun because then I just get to dick around, which is why I say a bunch of stupid shit that I don't mean, because you're just, you're just having fun. Right? But a lot of those things, you gotta go and, you know, look, the movie we made, this, this movie is this thing on that Bradley and Mark Chaplin and I wrote and we worked on for, it took like from the time that we decided to start doing it until the

• 33:07Will Arnett?

  time that it came out was like seven and a half years or something, right?

• 33:12Speaker 03

  Jesus.

• 33:12Will Arnett?

  Yeah. And so, so like we took it really seriously. We did it and it's, and we spent a lot of time on it, obviously, and a lot of care. And so you come out with it and then when they start to, you know, start thinking like, hey, maybe this has a chance for people to recognize it for X, Y, and Z. You want to give it the, you, you, you're, you're doing a bunch of different stuff. And so you, you, you want to speak very, it's tough because you don't, for me, I feel like, man, it's hard for me to be that earnest in a way.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. That's what I mean. Comedy is not, comedy is inherently like.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  You want to undercut yourself and undercut the situation so frequently?

• 33:51Will Arnett?

  Yeah. But then you, but it's, but you know what? The same rules apply in that you just got to read the room, which is that these are people here who are appreciating it. And so that you, you do take it seriously. And I did take seriously doing the, the project itself. And I do really like it and I am really proud of it. So then, but there were times when, yeah, where you just kind of like, you, you fuck around, but, but a lot of the time, you know, the questions are different too. The questions are like, what, you know, why, why did you do this? Or what is the message? Or, you know, what was the process like? And you're like, Well, actually, the process was pretty serious. Uh, yeah, it took a lot of preparation. Uh, yeah, to do those scenes took a lot of, uh, we workshop for a long time. If I need to find yourself down this road.

• 34:37Will Arnett?

  And I did have a few times that there were some really cool interviewers who were like, I see that you're struggling with taking, talking about it in this serious way.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  And I'm like, Well, there's like the, there's another layer to it too, that you're a comedy guy doing s- serious interviews about a serious movie about comedy. It's like, it's like a quadruple 4D cake or some shit.

• 34:59Will Arnett?

  Yeah, man.

• 35:00Speaker 02

  That's a thing.

• 35:00Will Arnett?

  Yeah, it's, it's complicated and, and, uh, and then, but, but at the same time, and then what happens is it's very alluring because people do respond to it and they're like, hey, we really liked it. And, and we thought it was a great story. And you're like, you're kind of forced to put your guard down. It was tough for me to kind of talk about it, me and or it in this way that, that didn't feel like, I kept trying to, I was like catching myself. I didn't want to seem like I was being self-aggrandizing. Do you know what I mean?

• 35:31Speaker 02

  This is the most understandable, like, headspace to be. My therapist one time said to me, do you ever use positive self-talk with yourself? And I was like, I was like, no, why? That would be corny. He's like, no, that is something you need to like. And I'm like, oh, fuck, I never like, it's so easy to just downplay everything. But then when you're a part of something larger, like a piece of art that you're involved with other creatives that you're like, I can't go out here and downplay this because I, I worked hard, other people worked hard. I, my instinct is to like undercut myself for the sake of comedy and to not come across as like a guy who is too serious.

• 36:07Will Arnett?

  What, what made it easy was in, in certain ways was that the, the people I worked with, you know, A, Bradley, you know, he's, he's,

• 36:15Speaker 03

  I got a billion questions.

• 36:16Will Arnett?

  Yeah, he's an incredible, he, he, he's an incredible filmmaker, right? I mean, and I've known him a long time. His, his capacity for all of it is so insane. And his, and his concentration and his focus is so intense in the best way. And Laura Dern, who's one of our greats, you know, and she's just, she's just incredible. And so you kind of, you, you, you, you start to get in that, you know, I heard, but what's, what's interesting is so, so that part of it made it really easy. And then when you listen to that and the way they talk about it, you're like, okay, yeah, I can talk about this thing. And, and I did take it seriously. You know, what's weird is, you know, as Pally, you were saying that like you go and you

• 36:59Will Arnett?

  you're doing these like screenings for the Academy and stuff. And of course, we didn't get any nominations for anything for our film.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Not about that.

• 37:05Will Arnett?

  I know, but what's weird is they you get put in this place where you've got to go and do that. And then, and then you're disappointed and then you're like, I heard Ben Affleck talking about it. I think on Kimmel, maybe or something recently and he was much more articulate than I was. But about this idea that people are like, oh, man, sorry, didn't get the thing. And you're like, I didn't even, when we made it, it's not like I was thinking like, wow, we're gonna get, we're gonna make this Academy Award winning.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:35Will Arnett?

  Thing.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  When you get drafted in the NFL, you're not like, ah, fuck.

• 37:38Will Arnett?

  I just want to get.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  If I don't win the Super Bowl, this is.

• 37:40Will Arnett?

  I just want to get on the field.

• 37:40Speaker 02

  Exactly, exactly.

• 37:42Will Arnett?

  And that was it. We just wanted to make something good. So.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Played a great game.

• 37:45Will Arnett?

  So it's confusing. And I remember my 15 year old said to me, and he's such a great kid, and you want to talk about it. This kid is so funny. He's an absolute bit machine.

• 37:55Will Arnett?

  It's unreal. It's unreal.

• 37:57Speaker 02

  It's in the genes.

• 37:58Will Arnett?

  Do not introduce him to my son. I do not. I don't need to do that. My son is a nightmare. Bit machine. It's insane. And, and we were driving home and we, I was driving him home somewhere. I was out here in California and I said, and we found out like that we,

• 38:19Will Arnett?

  something came out. We didn't get, we didn't get recognized. And he goes, and I hung up and I go, yeah, he goes, what happened? I go, yeah, it's a bit of a bummer. And he goes, don't let the fact that that happened ruin what you think about this great movie that you made, Dad. And I was like, you're right. You're absolutely right. It was so dope. It was so dope. And like, it took my 15 year old to give me the perspective.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, the clarity comes from the most, the wildest places sometimes.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  You worked with our mutual friend, oh, real quick, my buddy Bob Castro.

• 38:54Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 38:55Will Arnett?

  Dude, Bobby Castro is one of the all time funny dudes.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's one of the best. I met him when I was a P A at Best Week Ever like 20 something years ago when I graduated college and we've been tight ever since.

• 39:08Will Arnett?

  I mean, you want to talk, you want to talk about Bit Machine?

• 39:12Will Arnett?

  Bob Castro. So Bob came with us when we were doing, because as you know, he used to be a stand up back in the day.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:18Will Arnett?

  And so when I started doing stand up and was going to the cellar when I was living.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  Were you using your name? Were you using, like, would they say ladies and gentlemen, Will Arnett?

• 39:28Will Arnett?

  No, no, no. I was using the name of the character, which was, yeah.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Some fucking Kaufman shit.

• 39:35Will Arnett?

  Well, I was doing, yeah, I think people were like, is he doing like some like low rent Andy Kaufman ripoff?

• 39:42Speaker 03

  Daniel Day Lewis over here.

• 39:44Will Arnett?

  Daniel Day Lewis.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  On the set, everyone call me Will.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  I'm living the life.

• 39:52Speaker 03

  All right. Everyone treat me like Will. Okay. A stand up comic is going through a divorce. All right.

• 40:01Will Arnett?

  So I would, I would go down and so Bob, Bob came with me and because we wrote all the stand up, you know, that's in the film that kind of tracks where this character of Alex is going and stuff. And so I wanted to have that experience, truly what it was like to be this dude. And I'm not a stand up, so I'd never done it before, but I wanted to understand what that experience was going down and being that dude. And so really what I got to do is kind of rehearse for six weeks and going to the Comedy Cellar every night and walking downstairs and being introduced as Alex Novak. And people did like kind of, I'd get up there, they'd sort of snicker and think like I was losing my mind or whatever. And.

• 40:40Speaker 02

  Poor guy. Poor Will. He's going through it. I mean, sorry, Alex.

• 40:47Will Arnett?

  I did joke though. I did joke that people, you know, like, A, you know, so I'm getting divorced and stuff that people are Googling like, this asshole got married again?

• 40:57Speaker 02

  And you were doing a super high pitched voice, right?

• 40:59Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 41:00Speaker 02

  No gravel.

• 41:02Will Arnett?

  I was doing like this.

• 41:04Speaker 03

  Dude, the worst part of that was lugging that prop bin up and down those stairs though, right?

• 41:09Speaker 02

  I'm glad you guys did the rewrite to make Alex not a prop comic. I think that was a smart move.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  It was so.

• 41:16Will Arnett?

  It was such a, I'm glad we dropped that because it was, it was becoming.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  Hard to get the shit up and down the stairs.

• 41:22Will Arnett?

  It was so.

• 41:22Speaker 02

  Our department was furious that we were so happy.

• 41:25Will Arnett?

  Everything, the plunger, the chicken, the glass, all of it.

• 41:30Speaker 03

  You gotta be careful with it. You can't just throw it down. You have to like place it.

• 41:33Will Arnett?

  There's an anvil in there. You can't throw it down.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  The anvil's gonna ruin the chicken.

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• 43:35Speaker 03

  We come from improv, as you know. And so like, there is, that is a different thing. Like we, you know, we, we, we, we had all this training at the Upright Citizens Brigade in New York.

• 43:48Speaker 02

  So much stage time, but no crossover.

• 43:52Speaker 03

  Where you're like, oh, I can get on stage. You're like, I can get on stage with no material in front of however many people and feel, feel comfortable. And then you're like, but that doesn't mean anything. That's not currency. That's not, you know, it's not music. It's, it's like shitty jazz, you know, in a way. It's like.

• 44:09Will Arnett?

  Well, what, you know, what was interesting was so, so when I was, yeah, so when I'd go down there, the first time that I did it at the cellar, we walked down the stairs and I was there with Bob Castrone and, and Bradley. And we're standing there by the doorway, you know, downstairs there at the, in the main room there and, and I'm about to, they're about to call me up. And Bradley knows me and he knows that I'm gonna, if I get up there, that because I didn't come up through, through improv. I wish I had, I wish I'd known about it. I wish it existed in that way when I was coming up.

• 44:44Speaker 03

  You're pretty adjacent. I mean.

• 44:46Will Arnett?

  I'm adjacent, I'm adjacent.

• 44:47Speaker 03

  We've hung out at McManus enough for you to be considered an improviser.

• 44:51Will Arnett?

  Yes, but, but, but like I wish, I just wish that that was kind of around more when I was, when I first moved to New York in 1990. Like it just wasn't. So, but, but I, but he knows that my instinct is that if I get up, if I walk down there, get on stage, that I'll try to figure out a way to make, to, to squeeze out a laugh somehow. To make it work. Like you said, to make it work, to do something and whatever. And, and the first time he stopped me and he puts his hand on me and he leans in and he goes, we're doing something different.

• 45:27Will Arnett?

  And basically he was saying, you're not doing that. We're here to do this. This is the job. And so go out there and do the material as Alex and do Alex's material that we do from the film, which is what I did. And that was really dope.

• 45:39Speaker 02

  The impulse would be to be like, yeah, I know how to impress this crowd. I'm a funny guy. I'd give me a mic.

• 45:44Will Arnett?

  Yeah, just lean on my sweaty bits. You know what I mean?

• 45:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, the tattoo thing. Let me try something out here, guys.

• 45:52Speaker 03

  From everything you said, the, the, the, I mean, I've had a director that, that I've really loved working with that I trust, you know what I mean? But I never had a, like a friend who is also my director, who's like, it must have been really bonding where you're doing this. If you guys are like going undercover, writing the movie as it, as it's forming, you know what I mean? Like, that's pretty special to have a friend that's like, hey, man, don't do your bullshit tonight. And then, but trust, but trust me that I'm gonna have your back and make you look good.

• 46:23Will Arnett?

  A hundred percent. And it was, and it was, you know, again, because I do, I got to see sort of under the hood over the last couple of years as we were working on developing it. What an incredible mind he has for this kind of thing and for making movies. And, and so I trusted that in that moment. And it did help us be, you're absolutely right. I mean, in terms of weeks later, when we actually start shooting, I do, that trust is just built, built, built in such a strong thing. And then, and then actually was, you know, coming to those moments where we had these really insanely

• 47:01Will Arnett?

  vulnerable moments in the film. And I've got to trust him and he's, you know, I'm, I, I, I'd never done anything like this on film in this way. And I had to kind of, you know, we talked about it and he'd be like, you gotta trust me that you have to, there's, there can be no bullshit here. There's no acting. There's no bullshit. You have to, and we gotta go deep. And he would like pull the camera off. He's operating too. So that was the crazy part.

• 47:27Speaker 03

  Soderbergh style.

• 47:28Will Arnett?

  Yeah. So, yeah.

• 47:29Speaker 03

  Well, that's also, where's he gonna sit? There's no fricking chairs.

• 47:33Will Arnett?

  There's no chairs. By the way, there's no chairs. There's no video village, right?

• 47:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:38Will Arnett?

  Everything's intense. From the moment you show up, from call time to rap, there's never a break. There's never sitting around, right?

• 47:46Speaker 03

  I wish for that.

• 47:46Will Arnett?

  It's amazing. So you're always engaged and he's right there. He's a foot from me with the camera in my face and he's talking to me as we're rolling. And he's like, here we go.

• 47:56Speaker 02

  Hell.

• 47:56Will Arnett?

  Here we go, man. Here we go. And then you go like, we gotta go. We gotta go deep on this. We gotta go. You gotta fucking throw it all away. All this kind of shit. It was dope, man. It was scary as fuck.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  That is. Can you introduce us to Bradley?

• 48:11Speaker 03

  I don't want to. I'm not ready to hang out with Bradley yet. I need a couple more years.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm not concerned that he's ready to make a movie.

• 48:18Will Arnett?

  You guys, you guys should work with Bradley.

• 48:20Speaker 03

  I didn't say movie. I don't want to hang out. I'm not ready to hang out with Bradley yet.

• 48:25Speaker 03

  I need a couple more years. Cause like, there are people like that in my life who, who, who like, I feel like I'm gonna meet Bradley Cooper and I'll be like, I gotta get more like Bradley Cooper. And you know what I mean? And like right now, right now, I just gotta.

• 48:38Speaker 02

  I can't handle that identity crisis.

• 48:40Speaker 03

  I can't handle that right now. I gotta just figure out me.

• 48:43Will Arnett?

  He's crazy inspiring. I mean, I, I, again, like it, it, it, but our whole thing, our whole relationship went into a totally different gear. And he really inspired me in, in so many ways. It was pretty sick and.

• 48:57Speaker 03

  Are you gonna do it again? Are you gonna? I mean, are you gonna? Obviously the material, you're, you're getting a different look now, right? Like, there's gotta be cooler stuff.

• 49:07Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I mean.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  Or a more, more variety of things in front of you that you can do next.

• 49:13Will Arnett?

  Yeah, for sure. That's, that's the exciting, that's the exciting part. And, and I'm not, what's funny is again, uh, I think because maybe I'm, because I'm 55, I'm not, I'm not precious about it. I'm not like, hey, now this is what I do. Uh, but I had these like really sort of very, um, what should be obvious realizations. But it's taken me a long time where I go like, I only want to do stuff that I, that I respond to.

• 49:45Speaker 02

  I haven't had that revelation.

• 49:47Will Arnett?

  Like what? And like, yeah, I want to do. And so, so it's been cool. Yeah. And it has been different. You know, I just finished this thing, um, um, with Tony Gilroy, which was pretty dope. Yeah.

• 49:58Speaker 03

  Whoa.

• 49:58Will Arnett?

  Yeah. Yeah. And with, with Pedro Pascal and that was, that was really awesome. And Olivia Wilde and a bunch. It was pretty dope. And, and so just a small little thing, but, but like really cool to be able to kind of do, do some different stuff. So that's. Yeah, I'm pretty psyched about it.

• 50:17Speaker 02

  Are you, are you looking to downshift and to do a comedy again and be like, oh, fuck, like, safety, I feel like a lot, like, you know what I mean?

• 50:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's run that.

• 50:26Speaker 02

  Like, yeah, yeah. Or, or is it?

• 50:28Speaker 03

  Let that Clydesdale out of the gate.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Did you get it? Did you get a taste? Did you get a taste? And you're like, I gotta, I wanna fuck in, you know, let's, let's see what else is in there. Let me keep digging.

• 50:39Will Arnett?

  You know what? I, I think it's more, I, I don't think that I, I mean, that's always, that's always alluring, right? Just because you, because if you read something really funny, you're like, oh, that'd be really fun to go fuck around and do that.

• 50:52Speaker 02

  Right.

• 50:53Will Arnett?

  But at the same time, I think that it is much more about like, I, I just, and if it, if it ends up being something that's funny, that's great. I just wanna do something that feels, as you know, it takes, you know, it takes time away from your life and your kids and all that kinda stuff. So it's gotta be something that feels valuable. I get to screw around like you guys do on, with, with Jason and Sean all the time. So that scratches a lot of itch, oddly enough.

• 51:19Speaker 02

  Right? Yeah, that's actually kinda cool when your quote unquote day job is like riffing with other talented, funny friends.

• 51:26Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  It's a little spoils you a little where you're like.

• 51:28Will Arnett?

  A little bit.

• 51:29Speaker 02

  I don't need to chase this high elsewhere.

• 51:31Will Arnett?

  Yeah, a little bit.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:35Speaker 02

  I hope you've been enjoying the interview with Will Arnett as much as we enjoyed doing it. So if you wanna hear the second half where we get into Will's morning routine, his kids dunking on him, an extended conversation about Benicio del Toro, then you gotta go over to the Staying Alive feed, anywhere you get your podcasts. Hit subscribe or follow while you're there. We've got other great conversations with people you'll know and love like Manzoukis, Marc Maron, Scott Akerman, Casey Wilson, Ego Wodum, Eric Andre, et cetera, et cetera. Come listen to a very funny people telling us what they do to stay alive.

• 52:11Speaker 02

  You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally. A Smartless Media production in association with Sirius XM. Executive producers are John Gabris, ooh, me, Adam Pally, ooh, you, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson, and Bernie Kaminsky.

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