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0:05 Rachel Cruze? Hey guys, I'm Rachel Cruz.
0:06 George Kamel? I'm George Kamel.
0:07 Rachel Cruze? And this is
0:08 George Kamel? Smart Money Happy Hour.
0:11 Rachel Cruze? Cheers, George.
0:14 Rachel Cruze? Wow, fall in a cup.
0:17 George Kamel? This is autumnal best.
0:19 Rachel Cruze? Amen, hallelujah.
0:21 George Kamel? Thank you.
0:22 Rachel Cruze? If you will. Well, this is the show where two friends who happen to be money experts talk about what you're talking about, everything from pop culture, current events, and money.
0:29 George Kamel? And what are we talking about today?
0:31 Rachel Cruze? I know, I don't want to be dramatic, George.
0:32 George Kamel? You never.
0:35 Rachel Cruze? But today's topic might be one of my proudest moments.
0:37 George Kamel? Why?
0:38 Rachel Cruze? Because I have found some technology apps that have helped me in my life, and I sound like you, but I am now being converted to this idea that technology can help us all.
0:49 George Kamel? Nothing makes you sound tech savvy like saying, "I have found some technology apps." Well, to be fair, you did-
0:56 Rachel Cruze? And other techs, tech stuff.
0:59 George Kamel? You convinced me to buy a product that you love, which makes you a tech influencer now.
1:03 Rachel Cruze? Oh my gosh, there's so much to talk about, you guys, because there are some great things out there in the world that will help your life, and we're going to talk about it.
1:08 George Kamel? But first, we are sipping on a cinnamon spiced orange and thyme mocktail. That is T-H-Y-M-E, so you're not confused.
1:16 Rachel Cruze? Not thyme, thyme.
1:18 George Kamel? Thyme. It's really good, so stick around if you like mocktails, because we're going to give you the rating and reveal the cost per glass at the end.
1:24 Rachel Cruze? Mm-hmm. All right, let's talk about the first piece of technology that I influenced you on, George. Okay, so there is a scale out there, you guys, that you can buy. It's like $30. It's not that expensive. You step on it, and you wait, and apparently, there's like, wait.
1:40 George Kamel? Electromagnetic sensors and whatever.
1:42 Rachel Cruze? Whatever that goes through your body.
1:43 George Kamel? H-B-G-B.
1:44 Rachel Cruze? And then you have an app, and it breaks down. Hold on, let me read you all. Hold on, I'll get it.
1:48 George Kamel? Oh, wow, very vulnerable to, oh, you're not going to read the numbers.
1:51 Rachel Cruze? I'm not reading my numbers. Oh my, oh, no. But it talks about body fat, BMI, skeletal muscle, muscle mass, muscle storage ability level, protein, BMR, fat-free body weight, sub-
2:07 George Kamel? Don't you think they started making some up at the end there?
2:09 Rachel Cruze? Uh, visceral fat, body, uh, um, body water percentage, bone mass, your metabolic age?
2:18 George Kamel? Oh, wow.
2:19 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
2:19 George Kamel? Can you tell us if your metabolic age is younger than you actually are?
2:22 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me go to mine. Cause Winston and I, we share the, we share that, but we have two different profiles.
2:24 George Kamel? So this thing, based on your metabolism, this is how old you are?
2:28 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, of all the stuff. And I've been working out, y'all, "Oh, I'm 34."
2:32 George Kamel? Younger than you actually are.
2:33 Rachel Cruze? Two years younger. I know. So anyways, it's not like a doctor that's doing this, right? So it's not like super scientific. So like, give yourself some, a little bit of grace in the numbers, I think. But it's so helpful and it's amazing because I'm in my workout era, but it is fun to see like progress, right? Just like your money, you wanna see progress. That's why the debt snowballs, paying your debts off smallest to largest, cause you want that progress. Well, same with health, where you're like, "Oh my gosh, so it's actually working. Like I'm seeing muscle mass increase or whatever." Yeah, I don't know. That's, it's a, it's really fun. I like that one.
3:03 George Kamel? And you convinced me to buy it.
3:05 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, what do you think about it?
3:06 George Kamel? I'm like, how, I'm just confused. For so long, I just got on a scale and it told me one number.
3:11 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
3:12 George Kamel? Little did I know, there was another world available at my fingertips, at my, at my toes.
3:17 Rachel Cruze? Is it helpful?
3:18 George Kamel? Very helpful.
3:19 Rachel Cruze? What's your, what's your age?
3:20 George Kamel? Oh, I haven't checked.
3:21 Rachel Cruze? Oh, that's neat.
3:22 George Kamel? So I am, uh, I'm 35 as of this recording.
3:26 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
3:26 George Kamel? That could change.
3:27 Rachel Cruze? When's your num, when's your birthday?
3:29 George Kamel? In May.
3:30 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
3:30 George Kamel? It's not, yeah, we're fine.
3:31 Rachel Cruze? You're probably gonna...
3:32 George Kamel? Ooh, here we go. So you were, you were two years younger than your actual age.
3:36 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
3:36 George Kamel? Metabolic age is 32.
3:38 Rachel Cruze? Oh!
3:39 George Kamel? I have three-year differential.
3:40 Rachel Cruze? Sure.
3:43 George Kamel? Wow. I'm feeling pretty good about myself. Now, otherwise, I'm a boomer. I am the youngest living boomer at heart.
3:52 Rachel Cruze? Oh, yeah, yeah. Internally, internally, you're a boomer, but no.
3:56 George Kamel? But my body, still got it.
3:58 Rachel Cruze? Yeah. So anyways, there is, um, yeah, technologies, apps, purchases that can actually enhance your life, so.
4:05 George Kamel? But it feels like every day we're being marketed to, and there's another version of the tech that we now need. There's a V4 that's even better, and if you have V3, it's trash. And so we wanna cut through some of that noise and give you our honest thoughts on what is worth the cost when it comes to technology. And not just, you know, don't think just digital and apps, all kinds of things we're gonna get into today. So let's start.
4:24 Rachel Cruze? Can I go first?
4:25 George Kamel? Yeah.
4:25 Rachel Cruze? Okay. Even though I'm a big conspiracy theorist, this doesn't, this doesn't...
4:29 George Kamel? What a great disclaimer.
4:30 Rachel Cruze? It doesn't correlate with it. But I love Alexa. We have Alexa.
4:36 George Kamel? So Amazon's Alexa devices.
4:37 Rachel Cruze? Yes, and we're always like, Alexa, what's the weather today?
4:40 George Kamel? You just triggered like a thousand Alexas out there.
4:42 Rachel Cruze? That's so true. Okay. Her name, what time is it? Her name, will you play "The Goodness of God" by Bethel? Love that song.
4:50 George Kamel? Oh.
4:51 Rachel Cruze? I don't know. But like if you're in the kitchen, you're like, oh yeah, I need some music. I need to know the time or the weather or like what's
4:58 George Kamel? What's the weirdest thing you've asked Alexa and she answered appropriately? You got anything weird you ask her?
5:05 Rachel Cruze? Uh, yeah, the kids will have random questions and then we'll like ask her something about like dinosaurs or something. We're like, Alexa.
5:10 George Kamel? Does she know?
5:12 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, she usually does. And then you can play, are you smarter than a fifth grader with her? And that's pretty fun because you're like, oh yeah, there's some like, anyways.
5:19 George Kamel? And that makes you feel good to be smarter than a fifth grader?
5:22 Rachel Cruze? No, I don't know. She's just, it's a helpful gadget in our house that we use. We don't use her to shop with, like some people like tell her like, hey, buy more of this on Amazon. We don't do that. But just having her around for music and a clock.
5:37 George Kamel? Well, we're a Google Home family because we have a distrust of large corporations.
5:43 George Kamel? I'm kidding.
5:43 Rachel Cruze? She just said Google. Talk about mistrust.
5:46 George Kamel? It's a joke, Rachel.
5:47 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
5:48 George Kamel? They both own us.
5:49 Rachel Cruze? Okay, they do.
5:50 George Kamel? In different ways.
5:51 Rachel Cruze? We can't get away.
5:51 George Kamel? But here's my favorite thing that we do is we use the broadcast feature. And so we can say, hey, name, broadcast. And Whitney from another room in the house will say, broadcast. Hey, can you get me two pacifiers in the nursery? I'll hear it from the bathroom.
6:07 Rachel Cruze? No, it's like a walkie talkie.
6:09 George Kamel? It's a walkie talkie.
6:10 Rachel Cruze? Wow.
6:10 George Kamel? And that truly has been the most helpful communication tool in our marriage.
6:15 George Kamel? Because I can't hear her. She has the wispiest little voice.
6:18 Rachel Cruze? So sweet.
6:19 George Kamel? So her yelling, I still can't hear across the room.
6:21 Rachel Cruze? Man.
6:22 George Kamel? You know?
6:22 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
6:23 George Kamel? So anyways, there we go.
6:24 Rachel Cruze? I like it.
6:24 George Kamel? Alexa, that's a good one.
6:25 Rachel Cruze? Another one I love. I love a Keurig.
6:29 Rachel Cruze? So.
6:30 George Kamel? You still use a Keurig?
6:32 Rachel Cruze? Winston will make pour over coffee. I would say maybe four times a week.
6:37 George Kamel? Like a good American?
6:38 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
6:38 George Kamel? Would?
6:39 Rachel Cruze? Um, but man, I still, I think it tastes good. The Keurig to me tastes good.
6:45 George Kamel? But I think that should give you pause as to how good your taste is. You know what I mean?
6:49 Rachel Cruze? When it comes to coffee.
6:50 George Kamel? Like if you cracked open Chef Boyardee and you were like, this is some of the best spaghetti I've had.
6:54 Rachel Cruze? This is some of the best ravioli ever.
6:57 George Kamel? I would, we would all go.
6:58 Rachel Cruze? Okay, I really wanna do a blind taste test with you because you always rag on the Keurig. I bet if I had a Keurig and like two other types of coffee, I don't know if you would know the difference, George.
7:07 George Kamel? I could smell that burnt plastic a mile away.
7:10 Rachel Cruze? Stop it. Oh my gosh. Here's another technology that I love. We don't use it as much recent, but back in the day when we had our dog that shed, we used it a lot. The Roomba.
7:19 George Kamel? Oh, that's a good one.
7:20 Rachel Cruze? So great. I mean, what a fun invention. A robot that's a vacuum.
7:25 George Kamel? My real estate agent got us a Roomba for like a housewarming after we closed.
7:29 Rachel Cruze? Okay, I've heard one horror story from a friend.
7:32 George Kamel? Oh no. How about a Roomba? Oh, did it pick up dog poop?
7:35 Rachel Cruze? Picked up dog poop?
7:37 George Kamel? That's always my greatest fear.
7:38 Rachel Cruze? Spread it all over the house? So bad, Joel, so bad. It was not good. But other than that, I think it's a, I think it's a great piece of technology.
7:47 George Kamel? Because you can set schedules, it maps the house, like all the, especially the newer ones are fancy. I can't run it because my dog thinks it's trying to like murder us.
7:55 Rachel Cruze? Oh no.
7:56 George Kamel? So he attacks it. We can't run it if the dog's around.
7:59 Rachel Cruze? Oh shoot. And your dogs are always around?
8:00 George Kamel? And he's always around.
8:01 Rachel Cruze? Yeah. Just the one dog hates it?
8:03 George Kamel? Yes, the one dog.
8:04 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
8:04 George Kamel? Blue, the, the boy. He doesn't like anything that moves or makes sound, which makes it difficult.
8:09 Rachel Cruze? Blue.
8:09 George Kamel? So like even a lint roller can't use that around him?
8:13 Rachel Cruze? Or a baby?
8:14 George Kamel? Well, the baby is fine.
8:15 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
8:15 George Kamel? Well, like anything that goes around him, anything that kind of moves back and forth mechanically or makes a big sound.
8:20 Rachel Cruze? He don't like it.
8:21 George Kamel? Leaf blowers, uh, you know, sprinklers, pretty much everything.
8:26 George Kamel? He is great.
8:27 Rachel Cruze? Your dogs are so high maintenance.
8:28 George Kamel? Yep.
8:29 Rachel Cruze? Um, okay, a crock pot, we use this all the time. So there's like the, the crock pot, the Instapot and the air fryer.
8:36 George Kamel? I have all three.
8:37 Rachel Cruze? You do? I was gonna say, I only have the crock pot. Okay, which ones do you like the best?
8:41 George Kamel? The one I use the most is the air fryer.
8:42 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
8:43 George Kamel? Because easy to reheat food.
8:44 Rachel Cruze? People talk about the air fryer, how great it is.
8:46 George Kamel? I don't have a traditional air fryer with like the thing you just kinda like pull out in a basket. Mine is like a little French door, stainless steel.
8:54 Rachel Cruze? Yes, it is.
8:55 George Kamel? It's from Costco.
8:56 Rachel Cruze? Yes, it is, of course.
8:57 George Kamel? So I enjoy that, but I do need to get back, it's crock pot season. And Kelly Daniel, I was sitting next to her at lunch and she had this tiny crock pot warmer that's made for individual meals. You bring it to work, you plug it in, no need to go to the microwave.
9:10 Rachel Cruze? Oh, no way.
9:11 George Kamel? And it's heating it up for you over two hours while you're at work and then at lunchtime, it's ready.
9:15 Rachel Cruze? Did you plug it in like downstairs or like at your desk or like pretty?
9:18 Speaker 02 Tell building services, but at my desk.
9:20 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
9:22 George Kamel? Breaking the Ramsey law.
9:23 Rachel Cruze? They don't listen to this podcast.
9:25 Speaker 02 You put your food in it?
9:26 Rachel Cruze? It's fine.
9:26 Speaker 02 And then you just plug it in and it takes a couple hours.
9:29 Rachel Cruze? Does it smell?
9:29 Speaker 02 No, you can't smell anything, cause it latches in and then your, your food's ready.
9:34 Rachel Cruze? That's amazing.
9:35 George Kamel? Technology.
9:35 Rachel Cruze? Well done, Kelly, well done. All right, so you got, uh, yeah, crock pot's my favorite. You can get that for like, you know, 50, 60 bucks. Air fryer's more expensive. Um, you know, it's like $70.
9:46 George Kamel? They've gotten cheaper over time as they've gotten more kind of out there.
9:49 Rachel Cruze? But your Instapot is like, could go up, you know, anywhere from 80 to 130 dollars.
9:54 George Kamel? And there's people that swear by the Instapot. I just, I haven't kinda gotten over the learning curve of how to use it, what to use it for.
10:00 Rachel Cruze? I know, yeah, yeah.
10:01 George Kamel? I'll get there. You know, another one I fell for that I have not used is the sous vide.
10:06 Rachel Cruze? Winston Cruz sous vides.
10:08 George Kamel? Oh, does he love it?
10:09 Rachel Cruze? Loves it, steak. And people claim when he makes steak and they come over, that it's like some of the best steak they've ever had. Cause you get it to perfection.
10:17 George Kamel? To the perfect, medium rare. And then he sears it at the end.
10:20 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, then you sear it. So like he'll do like the green eggs, sometimes he'll smoke it, like he'll, or the, just the grill. And it's pretty fantastic. And he'll do chicken the same way and then he'll sear it.
10:28 George Kamel? Cause my greatest fear is overcooking slash undercooking chicken.
10:32 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, and the chicken is like, perfect.
10:34 George Kamel? Either way, it's ruined. Cause I'm either like, I'm gonna die from salmonella or I will not get through this rubbery mess. And I vow, I will never cook chicken again.
10:43 Rachel Cruze? Wait, what?
10:44 George Kamel? That was, that's what I vow. And then every time, I end up doing it again.
10:47 Rachel Cruze? Oh, okay. I was like, God, we always eat chicken.
10:49 George Kamel? And I have the thermometer and all that, but then like one piece is, and you're like, ah.
10:51 Rachel Cruze? Wait, what are you, I don't understand. Like, can you not just cut it and be like, oh, that looks good? That looks right?
10:56 George Kamel? You don't do it based on looks? How vain are you?
10:59 Rachel Cruze? Oh, George.
11:00 George Kamel? You don't just look at a piece of chicken?
11:01 Rachel Cruze? George, you can cut it and be like, ooh, that is way too pink in the center. We gotta redo that.
11:05 George Kamel? Yeah, well, it's not about pink. It's, it's all about temperature, because some chicken looks pink. Like if you smoke chicken, for example.
11:12 Rachel Cruze? George, I've never died. Obviously.
11:15 George Kamel? You have a good point. You have never died. That's all the, that's all the proof I need.
11:20 Rachel Cruze? I eat a lot of chicken and make a lot of chicken.
11:24 George Kamel? Okay. I need a recipe. But I think the sous vide could change that for me.
11:27 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, but the sous vide is great. It's a little weird.
11:29 George Kamel? Cause you're vacuum sealing it, it's in the-
11:30 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, you got the plastic that. I mean, it's a process.
11:34 George Kamel? Okay.
11:34 Rachel Cruze? But then he has an app for it.
11:36 George Kamel? There's an app for that.
11:37 Rachel Cruze? There's an app for the sous vide. I mean, it's crazy. It is crazy. So, yeah.
11:40 George Kamel? Cooking. There's a whole bunch of gadgets there.
11:41 Rachel Cruze? All right, one thing-
11:42 George Kamel? This one was me.
11:43 Rachel Cruze? Okay, yeah, this is you and Winston. Because all the smart technology around the house, I don't get it. I don't need to get it, but it is-
11:54 George Kamel? Just leave it to Winston and I. We'll handle it.
11:57 Rachel Cruze? Give me all of yours. Cause I don't think we have as much as you. You have a lot.
12:00 George Kamel? We, I lumped all of these together as sort of smart home, hands-free devices. So this includes, uh, the, you know, Ring Doorbell, one of those. We have like the Nest Google one. Uh, smart bulbs are everywhere. If there's, if there's a bulb and a lamp, like a, you know, I keep them all on smart devices so that I can turn everything off with one button or just talking to Google.
12:21 Rachel Cruze? Yep.
12:22 George Kamel? That changes the game. Thermostat control, again, you can do that by voice or by the app with Nest Google. Garage opener, I do that from my phone. I have it on schedule, so if I forget to close it or-
12:33 Rachel Cruze? Ah, oh, that's smart.
12:35 George Kamel? It'll automatically close at 9:00 PM every night. And the fun thing is, I never carry a key. I don't own a house key. I don't have a car key.
12:41 Rachel Cruze? Wow.
12:43 George Kamel? So I use my phone to turn on the car.
12:45 Rachel Cruze? And unlock your front door.
12:46 George Kamel? And I have, yeah, my phone unlocks the front door. The garage actually opens as I pull my car up to the garage.
12:53 Rachel Cruze? No, automatically?
12:54 George Kamel? You can set that up with your car.
12:56 Rachel Cruze? No.
12:56 George Kamel? I will teach you.
12:57 Rachel Cruze? Oh, my gosh.
12:59 George Kamel? It's like it, the house is awaiting my arrival.
13:02 Rachel Cruze? It feels like Smart House, remember that Disney movie?
13:05 George Kamel? That's my dream, is we're all just trying to get back to that reality.
13:08 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
13:08 George Kamel? That is not reality.
13:09 Rachel Cruze? That they set for us and we're trying to go there.
13:11 George Kamel? And the door, I have the, you know, smart lock on the door.
13:14 Rachel Cruze? Yep.
13:14 George Kamel? So just keypad. And so there is no, I don't need, I, as you can tell, in these skinny jeans, I can't fit any key. It's necessity.
13:22 Rachel Cruze? There's no room.
13:22 George Kamel? So those have changed my life and it's my one thing, if I was gonna upgrade your life, I would say go.
13:28 Rachel Cruze? How much does all that cost, would you say?
13:30 George Kamel? Well, I also have the cameras, so depending on how many cameras you have. So a front doorbell, one in the backyard, there's some inside the house, like living room, things like that. Nursery camera. All of that could run you, I would say, a thousand bucks, I'll get you like, set up.
13:45 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
13:45 George Kamel? Two thousand bucks, I'll change your family tree.
13:49 George Kamel? Yeah. That's like game changer level.
13:52 Rachel Cruze? Uh, I should know this, are the apps, like the garage door app that we have, like, do we pay a subscription for that?
13:56 George Kamel? No.
13:57 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
13:58 George Kamel? I hope you don't, I don't know if you got scammed into one.
14:00 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, I may have.
14:01 George Kamel? No, the only one that's a subscription is Nest has one to, to be able to watch all the camera footage.
14:06 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
14:06 George Kamel? On multiple cameras.
14:07 Rachel Cruze? How do these companies make money if we're not paying for it?
14:10 George Kamel? Um, the garage one, you pay for the product.
14:13 Rachel Cruze? Oh, you do pay, okay, so we paid something.
14:15 George Kamel? You paid something for the actual product. Or it was built in when you built your house. A lot of times the builder includes some of the tech features.
14:21 Rachel Cruze? And that's just like a thing up in your garage?
14:23 George Kamel? Yep.
14:24 Rachel Cruze? Thing?
14:24 George Kamel? So by other than that, I don't pay for, you know, thermostat control, it's built into the product, smart bulbs. There's no.
14:30 Rachel Cruze? You gotta pay for that.
14:31 George Kamel? Yep. Smart bulbs, though, you can now get really cheap from Costco or Sam's Club. You don't need to get like crazy fancy name brand. They all have Wi-Fi capability. It'll say works with Google Home or works with Alexa.
14:41 Rachel Cruze? Oh, yes.
14:42 George Kamel? That's all you gotta look for.
14:43 Rachel Cruze? There you go.
14:43 George Kamel? There's your little, I, I would say that was a good five minute sort of tech summary.
14:47 Rachel Cruze? I appreciate that, George, that's good.
14:49 George Kamel? And those really have changed my life. I will say that is the number one.
14:52 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
14:53 George Kamel? Probably the best part of my life, other than my wife, children and dogs.
14:58 George Kamel? I'm a man of convenience. What can I say?
15:00 Rachel Cruze? Love, love some convenience.
15:01 George Kamel? Even the noise machines. I have everything on smart plugs. So I don't have to get underneath and turn on a machine. I just say, hey, name, turn on bedroom noise machine.
15:10 Rachel Cruze? You know what we did for our Christmas decorations? Is we did smart plugs for that.
15:14 George Kamel? Exactly.
15:15 Rachel Cruze? And that was smart because it all goes off at like, you know, 11pm or whatever.
15:19 George Kamel? And again, on a schedule. So at sundown, I have the Christmas lights automatically turn on. And at sunup, they automatically turn off.
15:25 Rachel Cruze? I know. So smart.
15:27 George Kamel? Long gone are the days of dad running out there, you know, unplugging nineteen things.
15:31 Rachel Cruze? That foot thing. I know.
15:32 George Kamel? Wow, I could go all day.
15:33 Rachel Cruze? Okay, but keep going because the smartphone technology is, there's a lot there. It's kind of what we were just talking about, but there are things on the phone that make our lives better too.
15:43 George Kamel? Number one attached to the phone or not attached is wireless charging. I know you're a fan of that.
15:50 Rachel Cruze? You just said it right there.
15:51 George Kamel? Yes.
15:51 Rachel Cruze? And then it goes a little green light around so you know it's charging and you're good to go.
15:54 George Kamel? Yes.
15:55 Rachel Cruze? It's great. Instead of like, I, this would be me back in the day. You're laying in bed, you're like, oh, I just my phone. And I don't want to get out of bed to find it. So I throw half my body down on the ground and I rummage through the ground.
16:06 George Kamel? Wow.
16:06 Rachel Cruze? Find my cord and then I gotta hoist myself back up.
16:09 George Kamel? I do like cord organization. You can attach one to your bedside table and it'll hang the cord there.
16:15 Rachel Cruze? Oh, yeah, and it's all there.
16:16 George Kamel? But I do think long phone chargers, like getting an extension cable or just getting a six foot.
16:21 Rachel Cruze? That's what I always do too.
16:22 George Kamel? It's a game changer.
16:22 Rachel Cruze? Okay, um, one that I'm not using, but a lot of people are, is ChatGPT.
16:27 George Kamel? Oh, yeah, I use it every day.
16:28 Rachel Cruze? I feel like we were on the front end of this technology because we did a smart money happy hour episode about Chat, ChatGPT, right?
16:36 George Kamel? Yeah.
16:37 Rachel Cruze? On the cusp of it, like a year ago. Maybe it's been a lot longer, but I still don't use it. It's not a go-to for me.
16:43 George Kamel? I use it to, if I have like a bunch of notes.
16:46 Rachel Cruze? Yep.
16:47 George Kamel? I will use it to summarize. I'll use it to kind of give me some ideas. Um, I'll use to add things up. If I just have a long list of numbers and I don't want to figure out Excel. I'll just say, hey, add these up. So I use it for a lot of random things, recipes, meal planning, grocery lists. I mean, it's endless.
17:04 Rachel Cruze? I use the notes app for all that.
17:08 George Kamel? That's fine. But if I was like, hey, give me 10 gluten-free recipes for a crock pot. That involve chicken and steak. It was just, and I'd say, alright. Based on that, give me a grocery list that I can use at Aldi or Kroger. And I can copy and paste that into my note, and now I'm ready to shop.
17:26 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, that's, that's pretty unbelievable.
17:27 George Kamel? So that, that kind of stuff, just think about anything that would save you time that you don't want to ask your spouse for.
17:31 Rachel Cruze? It's so worth it.
17:32 George Kamel? There you go.
17:32 Rachel Cruze? Alright, here's some apps that I love, that I wish we had like back in the day. Cause I think it would make life easier. Venmo.
17:38 George Kamel? For payments, absolutely.
17:39 Rachel Cruze? For payments with friends. Like your splint payments, you gotta pay someone. You don't have cash always, so it's like, oh yeah, let me just Venmo it to you. Uber and Lyft as well.
17:48 George Kamel? That's changed the way we live.
17:49 Rachel Cruze? I'm more Uber, are you Uber, are you Uber or Lyft?
17:51 George Kamel? I am a man of frugality, so I will check both every time.
17:55 Rachel Cruze? You will.
17:55 George Kamel? And I will choose the cheaper option.
17:57 Rachel Cruze? Is there, is it usually pretty competitive?
17:59 George Kamel? I would say lately, lately Uber's been a little cheaper for some reason. I, it used to be the opposite. I would find Lyft was a little bit cheaper.
18:06 Rachel Cruze? Uh huh.
18:07 George Kamel? Um, but Uber, now they have different versions, like hey, if you're willing to wait up to 20 minutes, it'll be cheaper. Or if you're willing to share a ride.
18:14 Rachel Cruze? Which I would never do. That makes me so nervous.
18:17 George Kamel? Well, here's the hack. I do it knowing, no one's sharing a ride in the suburbs. So if you're in the big city, sure, maybe.
18:25 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
18:26 George Kamel? But Whitney and I did this when we traveled in San Francisco. And we just had lifts, and we'd always do shared ride, cause it was cheaper. And there was, I think maybe one time out of 10, there was someone in the car. And for a short distance.
18:37 Rachel Cruze? Okay, okay.
18:39 George Kamel? And they get in the front, and we get in the back, and it's fine. You know, it's a quick drop off.
18:42 Rachel Cruze? No big deal.
18:42 George Kamel? So, but they are great and very convenient.
18:45 Rachel Cruze? Yep.
18:45 George Kamel? What is the threshold for you when it comes to requesting a payment on Venmo? Like if it's less than five bucks, don't even bother Venmo-ing.
18:54 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, I'm gonna go.
18:58 Rachel Cruze? Twenty bucks?
18:59 George Kamel? Wow. So if I borrow nineteen ninety-nine, you're gonna go, "Don't worry about it."
19:05 Rachel Cruze? Don't worry about it. Well, usually where that comes up is like if we have like a bunch of pizzas and like two other families come over or whatever and someone's like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, we'll just Venmo you our part of..." You know, usually I'm like, "Oh, it's fine." Because it usually ends up being like twenty, thirty bucks and I'm like...
19:20 George Kamel? Because pizza's pretty cheap and you're just like, "Let me just be generous and cover it."
19:23 Rachel Cruze? It's fine, it's fine. What about you?
19:25 George Kamel? I think it depends on the friend. Some friends really don't care, like, "Hey, just Venmo me for the fourteen dollars for the movie ticket," something like that.
19:31 Rachel Cruze? Oh, yeah.
19:32 George Kamel? So I'll request it or whatever and we move on with our life.
19:34 Rachel Cruze? Yep.
19:34 George Kamel? But yeah, for certain things, it just feels like I weigh out, "Is this worth it?"
19:38 Rachel Cruze? Yes. Okay, I will say I bought like seven movie tickets for a bunch of girlfriends.
19:42 George Kamel? That's a lot.
19:42 Rachel Cruze? We went, yeah, and saw it.
19:44 George Kamel? Hundreds of dollars.
19:44 Rachel Cruze? It ends with us together. Yeah, and I did, I think it ended up being like fourteen as we saw a matinee. So I think it ended up being less than twenty, but I did text them out because they were like, "How much do we owe you?" And I'm like, "Oh, it came out to be like fourteen bucks a ticket."
19:57 George Kamel? If you purchased them on AAA, you could have saved big, Rachel. Because now you're a AAA member, I heard.
20:01 Rachel Cruze? I am a AAA member, but I'm also a, um, the, I, I signed up for the movie theater membership.
20:08 George Kamel? AMC Stubbs?
20:09 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
20:10 George Kamel? Okay. Tell me about how that's changing. You don't, you don't pay for it.
20:13 Rachel Cruze? I'm not sure. It's just a free one. Yeah, I know, but they give you discounts. Yeah.
20:17 George Kamel? I'll check again.
20:18 Rachel Cruze? No, they do. If you, if you buy a certain number of tickets.
20:20 George Kamel? If you buy four tickets, they'll waive the convenience fee.
20:23 Rachel Cruze? George, I am saving money. Yes.
20:26 George Kamel? Can I tell you something I did, though? I went to the theater to buy the ticket in person for a show the next day to avoid the convenience fee.
20:32 Rachel Cruze? Oh, my gosh. And the convenience fee is what, like a dollar ninety-nine?
20:36 George Kamel? It's like three dollars.
20:37 Rachel Cruze? Is it three dollars? Okay, I will say we went...
20:39 George Kamel? Stick it to the man.
20:40 Rachel Cruze? We did go to a Rockies game. We were in Denver with the kids and I bought everything through Ticketmaster. And I don't buy tickets a lot. That's not like, I don't, I'm not someone that like goes to cons. I don't use Ticketmaster often. And now I know what all the debacle's about because I like paid per ticket, like seeing like, oh, yeah.
20:55 George Kamel? Oh, you see the fees.
20:57 Rachel Cruze? And then, I mean, it was...
20:58 George Kamel? Brutal.
20:59 Rachel Cruze? I mean, I think it was almost a hundred dollars of all the...
21:01 George Kamel? It could be like twenty-five percent of your ticket or thirty percent of just fees.
21:04 Rachel Cruze? It was crazy. Anyways.
21:06 George Kamel? Highway robbery.
21:06 Rachel Cruze? Not good.
21:07 George Kamel? All right, here's one that recently came into my life and I'm excited to use it more as we cook more and it's called paprika.
21:15 Rachel Cruze? Oh yeah, you love this.
21:16 George Kamel? And my brand leader Tyler told me about this. And what's really cool is, you know, when you see those Instagram recipes that look really good? And like Whitney will send them to me, I'll send one to her. And they always just sit there in like the messages or I save them to a collection.
21:30 Rachel Cruze? A picture, yeah.
21:30 George Kamel? Well, what's cool about this app is you can go to share, copy the link, you paste it into the browser in Paprika and hit download and it brings in the recipe into the recipe app. You can create grocery lists from there. So it's kind of a recipe keeper, if you will, digitally.
21:46 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
21:46 George Kamel? And you can copy and paste things that you find on websites and it's a game changer. So.
21:51 Rachel Cruze? Okay, we can't talk about apps without food because food and apps like come hand in hand these days. So order ahead apps like Instacart is one that my family, we use and we're actually using less and less of just because it has gotten pretty expensive. But you have like, yeah, tip, delivery fee, I mean, there's a lot that goes into it.
22:12 George Kamel? Well, and they charge, a lot of the stores on there charge more per item when you order it through Instacart.
22:16 Rachel Cruze? No.
22:16 George Kamel? So like Costco, they're gonna upcharge every item by like 10 or 12%.
22:20 Rachel Cruze? Yeah. So you're paying a lot more, I know. So we compared our grocery budget for like a week's worth of groceries and it was like $50, $60 less. So again, if you're in a season that you need the convenience, like I feel like we were like that for a little bit and it was, you know, it's like you pay it, it was worth it, just have the groceries right there. But now, yeah, we're shifting, George.
22:41 George Kamel? Wow, that's big.
22:43 Rachel Cruze? We're shifting, I know.
22:43 George Kamel? Yeah, I use it in more like chaotic situations, emergency situations where I really, it's very difficult to leave. It would be a big strain on the family to, for someone to go out.
22:52 Rachel Cruze? Rights, rights, yep.
22:54 George Kamel? Here's another one, weather apps. What is your weather app of choice?
22:58 Rachel Cruze? Oh my gosh, radar scope and I pay a yearly subscription.
23:03 George Kamel? Whoa.
23:04 Rachel Cruze? But this is like the hardcore weather app because it does all the National Weather Service radars. So they're like all around and they all come up.
23:12 George Kamel? Do you even know what you're looking at? Sometimes they hurt my face.
23:14 Rachel Cruze? No, no.
23:15 George Kamel? To just look at them.
23:15 Rachel Cruze? No, they're great. Here, I'll show you. And it is so helpful because I am terrified of tornadoes and all the things like here we go.
23:24 George Kamel? Oh wow, that's nice.
23:25 Rachel Cruze? And then you can see this, but then it gets really nerdy and then you can go in and change like the velocity and stuff and then it'll show you.
23:32 George Kamel? So you lost me here.
23:33 Rachel Cruze? Like different type, yeah, I mean it goes, it goes real deep. But yeah, I don't do tornadoes. I feel like Helen Hunt's that like something traumatic happened in my childhood.
23:42 George Kamel? You acted like it was mayonnaise, like I don't do mayonnaise. It's like, well, yeah, no one does torn- no one's like, yeah, I'm into it.
23:47 Rachel Cruze? Some are, did you see the movie Twister? Some people are storm chasers.
23:51 George Kamel? Yeah, I saw Twister followed by Twisters.
23:53 Rachel Cruze? I did see Twisters. And it was actually great. Twisters was great too. No, but I, I don't do them, I don't like them, it gives me anxiety. I don't like storms, I don't like storms. So this gives me a level of control, what I feel like is perceived control. By having knowledge of the radar and knowing what is going on. Because it's very helpful because you can also see like where the winds are going and that's the key for tornadoes. Because if the green and the red start colliding, that's where circulation happens and that's when the tornado is possible. So we're always watching.
24:20 George Kamel? Have you ever thought about being a meteorologist, like on the news?
24:23 Rachel Cruze? Out of my own anxiety, maybe.
24:25 George Kamel? I think you'd be great. Because you'd be good at like calming us when things are crazy.
24:28 Rachel Cruze? And then doing it in like layman's terms.
24:30 George Kamel? Yeah, then when things are great, you'd have a lot of fun with the green screen.
24:33 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, like guys, it's just sunny, it's a sunny day. We're all happy.
24:36 George Kamel? Just like, just get a nice little throw on, wear something light, maybe some.
24:39 Rachel Cruze? You may want to.
24:40 George Kamel? Flip flops.
24:42 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, open toe shoes are still good for the season, you're fine, you're fine.
24:45 George Kamel? That's the weather that we need.
24:46 Rachel Cruze? That is the weather. Do you have a weather app you like?
24:48 George Kamel? Um, I use the weather channel, but I hate the ads, but I'm also unwilling to pay. I'll say that.
24:53 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
24:53 George Kamel? So it's time to upgrade. I do hate with every fiber of my being the Apple weather app.
24:58 Rachel Cruze? Oh, it's terrible. I don't like Apple anything, I don't like the maps, I don't like the weather app.
25:02 George Kamel? I feel like that app is made for a seven year old. It's like, could be sunshine. He's like, this is not, like, give me more here, give me more.
25:09 Rachel Cruze? Hey, do you know what Apple does have in this, I saved money, George, let me tell you this.
25:14 George Kamel? This is some girl math coming up.
25:15 Rachel Cruze? I saved money, so I'm into walking now. I want to get my steps in, I'm trying to do it five days a week, I'm trying to get.
25:21 George Kamel? How many steps, can you tell us the goal?
25:22 Rachel Cruze? Seven to 10,000.
25:24 George Kamel? Impressive.
25:24 Rachel Cruze? Yep. And so I was like, oh, I need to count my steps. So I go and download an app and of course it's like a seven day free trial. And then you pay for the yearly subscription, which was like 30 bucks. And I was like, you know what? This is my new thing. So like, I'll pay for it because I'm going to use it. So I downloaded this app, free trial. And then I remembered that Apple has a health app or a health.
25:49 George Kamel? Yes.
25:50 Rachel Cruze? So I had deleted it because I wasn't in my health era back then. So I like took it off my phone and I went back and found it, put it back on. And do you know, it still was tracking my steps.
26:02 George Kamel? Even after you deleted it?
26:03 Rachel Cruze? Which is kind of woo woo. They're following us. But I thought, oh, my gosh, I'm going to save, I'm going to save money. So then I went back into the app that I had just downloaded, went down, unsubscribed. Uh, but they said, you know, you still have six days and 12 hours.
26:18 George Kamel? Oh, like the trial or whatever?
26:19 Rachel Cruze? Yes, but when you go on, so go to your Apple and health, the heart. You click on it and you get to see how many steps.
26:26 George Kamel? Oh, yeah, I love it.
26:27 Rachel Cruze? So it's so helpful and it's free. Saves money.
26:30 George Kamel? Way to go.
26:31 Rachel Cruze? That $30, I can go buy another necklace.
26:33 George Kamel? If you just asked me, I could have told you that Apple Health tracks your steps, but you know.
26:40 George Kamel? Okay, here's one, changing gears that I love is Audible.
26:43 Rachel Cruze? Me too.
26:44 George Kamel? I've been listening to Michael Richards, who is Kramer on Seinfeld. He has a big memoir. It's like 9,000 pages. And so he reads it. And so I always love to hear the author read it and tell the stories. And so I'm, I'm knee deep in that one right now. And Audible, you know, you get a credit. It's $7.95 per month after your first 30 days. And Spotify Premium also has audiobooks built into the subscription. You can listen to a certain number of audiobooks, including the audiobooks of our books.
27:09 Rachel Cruze? Oh, yes.
27:10 George Kamel? That we read ourselves.
27:11 Rachel Cruze? That is true.
27:11 George Kamel? So.
27:12 Rachel Cruze? We are there.
27:12 George Kamel? Check it out if you're on Spotify and you don't want to pay extra because you're already paying. But I love, that's a great app because I'm not a big reader. I like to listen as I handle a baby and I'm walking around the house.
27:21 Rachel Cruze? So I'm usually a book person, but I've gotten on Audible recently and I listened to a September 11th book on it. And it had all the audio like, like of it.
27:30 George Kamel? You could hear the.
27:31 Rachel Cruze? Yes. I mean, it was so, so sad.
27:33 George Kamel? It changes the experience.
27:34 Rachel Cruze? It does, yes. Because some books, I think, are better audio, so.
27:37 George Kamel? All right, Rachel, can we do a speed round?
27:39 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do, uh, car and travel technology and let's do some hygiene tech too that's out there.
27:44 George Kamel? Okay, is that a personal dig or? You just said it like, "Let's do some hygiene." I think that would be good.
27:51 Rachel Cruze? There's some technology around hygiene, that thing's fantastic.
27:53 George Kamel? Okay.
27:53 Rachel Cruze? All right, let's go. Car and travel, go.
27:55 George Kamel? Dashcam is one that I swear by. I got a little, it's like a Garmin mini. So you barely can see it in the car. And it goes right behind my rearview mirror.
28:04 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
28:04 George Kamel? And it records everything. And so if I were to be in an accident, it would record it. And I got this because I was in an accident a decade ago. And I had no way, it was my word versus hers. About what happened and whose fault it was. And so this will help you to avoid some very expensive insurance claims down the road that could hurt you and your premiums. So Dashcam is a good one. They can range from 39 to 130 bucks, depending on what you get.
28:29 Rachel Cruze? Thanks to technology, Google Maps now is free. So if you're needing maps, because back in the day, you guys, you would have to print out MapQuest directions and carry actual physical sheets into the car.
28:38 George Kamel? Which was still an upgrade from the paper maps that you'd unfurl.
28:41 Rachel Cruze? That is true. So it felt like, "Oh, my gosh, it's giving me line by line directions."
28:44 George Kamel? The good people over there.
28:45 Rachel Cruze? No, they, they really, they walked. So Google Maps could run, let's be honest. But then there used to be the Garmin. So then you upgrade to the Garmin, which was like 400 bucks for the little GPS that would sit in your car.
28:55 George Kamel? And now it's a free app on your phone.
28:56 Rachel Cruze? Now it's a free app on your phone.
28:57 George Kamel? And they're probably just collecting all of our data.
28:59 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
28:59 George Kamel? There we go. We don't think about that.
29:00 Rachel Cruze? Shh, George.
29:01 George Kamel? They know where you're going.
29:02 Rachel Cruze? Stop. Unbelievable.
29:04 George Kamel? That's a good one. Uh, this is a fun one, but also not fun. ICE alerts, so in case of emergency alerts. Uh, this is a wild one. I saw a friend.
29:12 Rachel Cruze? It's not a fun one, my friend.
29:14 George Kamel? Well, it's fun because it, it could be life-saving. I think that's fun.
29:18 Rachel Cruze? You know, we had a friend whose wife and daughter got into a wreck, y'all, and their Apple phone sent a, like, message about it.
29:25 George Kamel? Yeah, it'll like call or send a text to your emergency contacts, letting them know, "Hey, this person was in a crash." And it'll automatically call, I think, the authorities and stuff. It's pretty crazy what it can do.
29:36 Rachel Cruze? Yep.
29:36 George Kamel? So look into that and make sure you have your emergency contacts set up, because otherwise it won't contact anyone.
29:41 Rachel Cruze? Uh, I also love travel apps. Because even like a Southwest, for instance, is so great at racking up points, not through the credit card. And you have to pay $150 for the credit card if you have it.
29:51 George Kamel? Oh, that's right.
29:53 Rachel Cruze? Or you could just rack up free points as you fly and keep track of your rapid rewards. But those, those kind of travel Apps.
29:58 George Kamel? Yes.
29:58 Rachel Cruze? They're great.
29:59 George Kamel? I helped John Deloney save $230.
30:02 Rachel Cruze? No way.
30:02 George Kamel? This last week.
30:03 Rachel Cruze? To find a airline to get?
30:04 George Kamel? He was booking a hotel and he said, hey, help me do this. I know you can save me money and I did. So we went to hotels.com, researched the right hotel he wanted. Then I went to Priceline Express.
30:14 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
30:14 George Kamel? And using the Travel Arrow browser extension, along with Priceline Express deals, I was able to get him that same hotel. 230 bucks cheaper.
30:23 Rachel Cruze? That's amazing, George.
30:24 George Kamel? Two hotel rooms for a night, 230 bucks cheaper overall. So it went from like 560 down to like 330 or something.
30:29 Rachel Cruze? That's incredible. Well done. All right, let's go into hygiene. My favorite is the electric toothbrush.
30:35 George Kamel? Rachel's very proud of this.
30:37 Rachel Cruze? Because I don't go to the dentist.
30:39 George Kamel? Again, don't know why you're bragging about this.
30:42 Rachel Cruze? Cause I think it's a scam. And no cavities. Fantastic. And I've had the same one for 15 years.
30:48 George Kamel? That, are you updating the, upgrading the little toothbrush head?
30:52 Rachel Cruze? Oh yeah, yes, that will change up.
30:54 George Kamel? Just wanna make sure.
30:55 Rachel Cruze? The actual like toothbrush itself. Isn't that crazy?
30:58 George Kamel? That's amazing.
30:59 Rachel Cruze? Love it.
30:59 George Kamel? Yeah, I love my toothbrush. I don't know if it's, it's an Oral-B, I think is mine. Do you know what brand yours is? Like a Sonicare or something?
31:06 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, it's one of those. I think mine may be Oral-B.
31:08 George Kamel? Yep.
31:09 Rachel Cruze? Um, hair appliances, a good hair dryer is worth the investment for me. Hair straightener. There used to be the Chi straightener. Back in like, you know.
31:16 George Kamel? Chi's?
31:17 Rachel Cruze? Chi.
31:18 George Kamel? Oh.
31:18 Rachel Cruze? C-H-I. Like back in like oh four, that was like, that was the, that was the OG.
31:22 George Kamel? Now the Dyson hair wrap is the thing.
31:25 Rachel Cruze? People love it. I don't, I haven't tried it.
31:26 George Kamel? It's crazy expensive. It was like 600 bucks.
31:27 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, it's a lot. But, but investing in a good hair dryer for me.
31:31 George Kamel? I've had mine for probably close to a decade. I don't know.
31:33 Rachel Cruze? Oh yeah. And then another one, George, is the technology around nails. Can we talk about that?
31:38 George Kamel? There's nail tech?
31:38 Rachel Cruze? Well, that used to just be polish. Then we went to gel and now we have dip. I mean, you get all the, and it lasts for weeks and weeks and weeks.
31:45 George Kamel? And this is technology?
31:47 Rachel Cruze? Well, nail tech.
31:48 George Kamel? How does it work?
31:49 Rachel Cruze? I'm not sure. Ask the technology people that create it.
31:52 George Kamel? It's amazing.
31:54 Rachel Cruze? All right, there's gotta be some financial apps in here, George.
31:57 George Kamel? There's gotta be.
31:58 Rachel Cruze? And financial products that are worth the money.
32:01 George Kamel? The number one app on my home screen, finances, is EveryDollar.
32:05 Rachel Cruze? Yes, fantastic.
32:06 George Kamel? This is our budgeting app that our team created over a decade ago now, and they've just improving it every single day since, and it makes it super easy to, number one, plan all of our expenses for the month, number two, track it.
32:17 Rachel Cruze? Yes.
32:17 George Kamel? And I've got the premium version where you can connect your bank, there's smart tracking now, so it knows, hey, Amazon probably gonna go in your shopping category, correct? I go, yep, one click, whoop, it's done.
32:26 Rachel Cruze? I know, it's fantastic, honestly. I mean, we check it every day, and I track transactions, and it just keeps you on track, so I appreciate.
32:34 George Kamel? Love that one.
32:35 Rachel Cruze? EveryDollar is so good.
32:36 George Kamel? Oh, we're gonna put a link in the show notes, too, for our listeners and viewers, if they wanna check it out, or you can go to everydollar.com/smartmoney and get started for free.
32:42 Rachel Cruze? Yep, but we have some shopping holidays coming up, George. We have Black Friday, Cyber Monday.
32:46 George Kamel? Oh, boy.
32:47 Rachel Cruze? So again, these are apps and technologies that we've loved in our own personal lives. They cost, you know, a range of, you know, different price points, but maybe there are things in your life that can help you, you know, in the convenience aspect. So if you're gonna be planning on buying some of this stuff, or subscribing to it, make sure that you plan ahead, be strategic, especially about these shopping holidays coming up, because there can be some great deals happening.
33:09 George Kamel? Yeah, not everything has to be like a giant surprise. Like, you know it's coming up, you should have a budget, you should have been saving for part of the year to go, I know what I wanna spend this year. The problem is, we tend to then spend for ourselves, too, because the stuff that we want is also on major discount.
33:23 Rachel Cruze? Mm-hmm.
33:23 George Kamel? Or so we think. By the way, it's not always a major discount, just because it says 70% off MSRP. And one way to avoid that is camelcamelcamel.com, with Cs, no relation to this camel, but it's an Amazon price tracker. So you know, is this actually a good price, or is this the normal price that's on Amazon all the time?
33:42 Rachel Cruze? Yep.
33:43 George Kamel? Or will it go down after Black Friday instead of up?
33:46 Rachel Cruze? So good. So yeah, so I think the moral of the story, as you guys in this episode, is there are purchases, technologies out there, again, that can help you, but be strategic and plan, and making sure not only do you have the money, but you're, yeah, doing smart things, like looking at discount codes, doing a little bit more research to get the best deal, because, again, technology keeps improving, and it's not always a bad thing. It can help us in life. But George, I love hearing your stuff that you enjoy.
34:11 George Kamel? I enjoyed hearing yours.
34:12 Rachel Cruze? Thank you.
34:12 George Kamel? It just goes to show you, different strokes for everyone, and what changes one person's life may not change someone else's.
34:17 Rachel Cruze? That's right.
34:17 George Kamel? But also, don't gatekeep, because Rachel's been telling me, I'm like, I need that weather app now. And maybe Rachel needs... Something that I enjoy.
34:25 Rachel Cruze? A little, a little camera in my car.
34:28 George Kamel? I feel like Winston is the tech guy. And so you've largely delegated all the tech stuff.
34:32 Rachel Cruze? For sure. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. But it's good.
34:35 George Kamel? You need one person in the family who's, who's doing this.
34:38 Rachel Cruze? For sure.
34:38 George Kamel? All right.
34:45 Rachel Cruze? All right. Well, it's almost the end of the episode and we close out every episode with Guilty as charged. And this is where our producer Kelly gives us a new guilty as charged question every week. And if we're guilty, we take a sip. So Kelly.
34:56 Speaker 02 All right. Have you ever pretended to talk on the phone to avoid an interaction?
35:02 George Kamel? Oh.
35:03 Speaker 02 And this comes from Instagram user at Haddon K three.
35:06 Rachel Cruze? Ooh, I'm not sipping because I'm guilty. I'm sipping because I like to drink, but.
35:10 George Kamel? I'm sipping because I'm guilty?
35:12 Rachel Cruze? Okay. I don't think I've done the phone call thing, but I've done this thing. Just, oh, I'm just deep in my.
35:17 George Kamel? Oh.
35:18 Rachel Cruze? Weather app.
35:19 George Kamel? Is that enough to avoid an interaction?
35:21 Rachel Cruze? Just really, just going, I don't know, but I'll like look down and not make eye contact. I don't know if I have like done this and like walked around talking.
35:28 George Kamel? I think I do, but I have.
35:30 Rachel Cruze? I'm, I'm innocent on this one, y'all. I genuinely think I am.
35:32 George Kamel? It's almost like PTSD where it's like, whatever it was, was anxiety inducing enough that my brain shut it out?
35:38 Rachel Cruze? Blocked it off. Have you like looked at your phone and act like you're busy to like avoid eye contact with someone?
35:43 George Kamel? I know, I know one.
35:44 Rachel Cruze? Tell it.
35:45 George Kamel? I was in Costco.
35:46 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
35:47 George Kamel? As I am. And I saw someone I did not want to see.
35:51 Rachel Cruze? Oh, no.
35:52 George Kamel? And so I immediately turned around, grabbed my phone and just walked away on my phone.
35:57 Rachel Cruze? Guilty.
35:57 George Kamel? Yeah.
35:58 Rachel Cruze? Guilty.
35:58 George Kamel? That's what it was. That's what it was.
36:01 Rachel Cruze? Well.
36:01 George Kamel? It's someone that I, I don't think it was like, I wouldn't say it was like major beef. This was just, this was an awkward one.
36:07 Rachel Cruze? Okay.
36:08 George Kamel? I'll leave it at that. But yes, it's a, I think it's a great life hack to be kind, but also get out of the situation.
36:14 Rachel Cruze? Yeah. If you have to. That's fair. All right. Fair enough. Fair enough.
36:18 George Kamel? We made it.
36:18 Rachel Cruze? Uh, you finish your drink first.
36:20 George Kamel? Yeah. This was a cinnamon spiced orange and lime mocktail. So there's no alcohol in this. So it's fun for the whole family and I'm going to rate this a 10 out of 10.
36:30 Rachel Cruze? I mean, honestly?
36:31 George Kamel? I could not improve on this mocktail.
36:34 Rachel Cruze? I would agree.
36:35 George Kamel? And I would order it if I was feeling like if I was in a mood for a mocktail at a restaurant, I wanted something fall.
36:40 Rachel Cruze? It was honestly so good. I think all the ratios are perfect, from the cinnamon to the orange juice. What's in it?
36:44 George Kamel? Here's what's in it. Spiced maple thyme syrup, which is maple syrup, fresh thyme and cinnamon.
36:49 Rachel Cruze? Wow.
36:49 George Kamel? It also has fresh ginger, which I love ginger.
36:52 Rachel Cruze? Okay, I'm not a fan of, but you can't.
36:53 George Kamel? Fresh lemon juice.
36:54 Rachel Cruze? Mm-hmm.
36:55 George Kamel? Orange juice and ginger ale.
36:57 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, great.
36:58 George Kamel? Beautiful blend.
36:59 Rachel Cruze? Really, really nice. Really, really nice.
37:01 George Kamel? And here's what it comes down to. The cost breakdown per glass without the garnish, which this has a cinnamon stick and whatever this is.
37:10 George Kamel? What are this?
37:10 Rachel Cruze? It's thyme. It's a clover.
37:12 George Kamel? Oh, it's thyme?
37:13 Rachel Cruze? It's thyme.
37:14 George Kamel? I didn't know thyme looked like this.
37:16 Rachel Cruze? Yeah.
37:17 George Kamel? Good to know. Without the garnishes of thyme and cinnamon stick and orange slice, it comes out to $1.70 per glass. That's not bad for a fancy mocktail. Could be fun to make for your next fall party.
37:30 Rachel Cruze? Fall gathering.
37:31 George Kamel? As Rachel loves to do.
37:33 Rachel Cruze? Love a themed.
37:34 George Kamel? Maybe big games going on, Tennessee game?
37:36 Rachel Cruze? Yeah, there will be this season. Yeah, the train, it's orange. Great, we're doing it. We're doing it.
37:43 George Kamel? Get the recipe in the show notes. Give it a try this weekend, whether you're a Vols fan or not.
37:47 Rachel Cruze? All right, George, it's closing time. If you guys enjoyed this episode, make sure to leave a review. And if you haven't yet, make sure to check out our episode on harmless purchases that are draining your bank accounts. We'll leave a link in the show notes. And if you're listening on podcast, we'll leave a link as well so you can check it out. And make sure to subscribe too, so you don't miss an all-new episode of Smart Money Happy Hour, which comes out every Thursday. And hey, share the episode with your friends and your family.
38:14 George Kamel? Please.
38:14 Rachel Cruze? Spreading the word helps so much. So we'll see you guys next Thursday on an all-new episode of
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