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Are extreme wildfires the new normal?

Short Wave

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This episode of Short Wave examines global and regional wildfire trends, the science behind changing fire behavior, and how to protect health against smoke. Climate scientist Zeke Housefather explains that while global burned area is actually decreasing due to reductions in grassland and savanna fires in Africa, extreme wildfire activity has more than doubled over the last two decades. In North American and European forests, warming temperatures dry out vegetation and create conditions where fires burn larger areas and higher into tree canopies. Pediatrician and environmental scientist Lisa Patel discusses the health risks of wildfire smoke, noting that it is up to ten times as toxic as fossil fuel pollution and requires careful monitoring and adaptation as a new normal.

  • Monitor the air quality index to gauge exposure risks during wildfire smoke events. 11:05
  • Wildfire smoke can be up to ten times as toxic as pollution from burning fossil fuels. 12:06
  • Use indoor air filters or create DIY versions with a HEPA filter taped to a box fan. 12:50
  • Reduce personal emissions by switching to renewable energy and supporting regenerative farming practices. 13:59

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Sponsor Message and Show Intro

    The episode opens with a sponsor message followed by the hosts introducing the show and guests.

  2. 0:39
    Wildfire Global Trends Overview

    Hosts discuss whether wildfires are increasing globally and set the stage for deeper analysis.

  3. 1:18
    Regional Variations in Fire Activity

    The conversation shifts to how different regions show contrasting wildfire trends, highlighting nuances.

  4. 6:30
    Europe’s Fire Patterns and Climate Link

    Hosts examine recent European fires, connecting them to heat waves and broader climate change.

  5. 8:02
    Human Practices and Fire Suppression History

    Discussion turns to fire suppression policies, prescribed burns, and their ecological impacts.

  6. 9:44
    Boreal Forest Fires and Frequency Changes

    The segment focuses on Canada’s boreal forests, explaining why large fires are now more common.

  7. 11:57
    Health Risks of Wildfire Smoke

    Hosts explain the toxic effects of smoke, especially on children, and the limitations of current air‑quality guidelines.

  8. 12:29
    Practical Measures to Reduce Exposure

    Listeners receive actionable advice on masks, indoor air filters, and staying indoors during smoke events.

Highlights

  • 1:16

    Global Wildfires Decreasinginsight

    The guest explains that overall there are fewer wildfires globally and less land burning on average than in the past, primarily due to declines in African savannas and grasslands.

  • 2:08

    Extreme Wildfires Doubleddata

    Global extreme wildfire activity has more than doubled over the past two decades, causing bigger and hotter fires.

  • 7:21

    Temperature Rise and Burn Areadata

    Every one degree centigrade of warming during the fire season in Canada is associated with an 80 percent increase in the area burned that year.

  • 8:18

    Forest Fire Suppression Historystory

    Since the 1930s, the United States has suppressed forest fires, which led to an accumulation of undergrowth and more catastrophic crown fires.

  • 9:44

    Boreal Forest Fire Frequencyinsight

    Big fires in Canada's western boreal forests historically occurred once every 50 to 200 years, but are now happening much more frequently due to drier, warmer conditions.

  • 12:06

    Wildfire Smoke Toxicitydata

    Research shows wildfire smoke is about ten times as toxic to children as particulate matter from burning fossil fuels.

  • 12:52

    DIY Air Filter Strategystrategy

    An inexpensive indoor air filter can be constructed by taping a HEPA filter to a standard box fan.

Quotes

  • “the typical fire burns about three times more area than it did 30 years ago or 40 years ago, which is largely driven by changes in conditions.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:53
  • “And Gina, globally, extreme wildfire activity has more than doubled in the last two decades.”
    Unnamed speaker · 2:08
  • “So every 1 degree centigrade, or roughly 2 degrees Fahrenheit, of warming during the fire season in Canada, so made to September, is associated with an 80% increase in the amount of area burned that year.”
    Unnamed speaker · 7:21
  • “You know, there's been a lot of research that shows that it's particularly risky for pregnant people.”
    Unnamed speaker · 11:23
  • “You know, but sadly, we all should settle into this new normal, too.”
    Unnamed speaker · 14:08
  • Viori 0:00–0:16
  • Edward Jones 3:33–4:03
  • Planet Visionaries 4:09–4:28
  • Angie 4:31–4:46

About this episode

With parts of the U. S, Canada, Spain and France all ablaze with wildfires, you might be wondering: Are wildfires on the rise? If so, know that you mind-melded with the entire Short Wave staff. We had the exact same thought – and then went down some reporting rabbit holes and turned it into a whole episode. And let us just say: The answer is surprisingly complicated! But don’t you worry. We get into all the nuances this episode. Interested in more science behind the headlines? Email us your question at [email protected] mailto:[email protected]. Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. It includes perks like bonus episodes, early access, archive access, curated playlists and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org http://plus.npr.org. See pcm.adswizz.com https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy

Transcript

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2,794 words · 9 speakers

Topics

  • Canada
  • NPR
  • Spain
  • France
  • Smokey Bear
  • Boreal forest
  • Air Quality Index
  • Consider This
  • North America
  • United States

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