Pod Insights Shawn Ryan Show #167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah About this episode Lindy Li, is a former campaign advisor and prominent commentator on U. S. politics who’s made significant contributions to the political landscape. After moving from China to America at the age of five, she eventually attended Princeton University where she became the first woman to serve as class president for all four years. Her early career included roles as a financial analyst at Merck and Morgan Stanley before pivoting to politics, where she served as the Women's Co-Chair and Mid-Atlantic Regional Chair at the Democratic National Committee. She was also involved in the Asian American outreach team for Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign.
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1:05 Speaker 02 Lindy Lee, welcome to the show.
1:08 Speaker 03 Shawn, you're the best. So happy to be here.
1:10 Speaker 02 Thank you. Well, we have a lot to talk about today.
1:13 Speaker 03 Let's do it. I'm ready.
1:14 Speaker 02 You sure?
1:15 Speaker 03 Totally ready, born for this.
1:16 Speaker 02 Got some big news, some names I heard you're gonna drop?
1:19 Speaker 03 Whatever you want. I'm here, 100%, even if it's ugly.
1:23 Speaker 02 Perfect. All right. Well, we'll start it off with a introduction here. Lindy Lee, recognized as a prominent political strategist. You've raised millions of dollars for the DNC and for both the Biden and Harris campaigns. You've become outspoken critic of the DNC and its wasteful spending and misguided policies. Recently appointed to the Trump Vance Inaugural Committee, raising money for President Trump's inauguration. Now you work with RNC leadership, and you are the youngest woman ever to run for Congress in American history. When did you run for Congress?
2:01 Speaker 03 When I was 24. Oh, man, didn't go well.
2:05 Speaker 02 What made you want to run for Congress at 24?
2:07 Speaker 03 I wanted to save our country. Actually, Sandy Hook happened on my birthday and it became my life mission to ensure that another five-year-old would never be murdered in the classroom. Obviously, I didn't complete my mission yet.
2:19 Speaker 02 So are you anti-two-way?
2:22 Speaker 03 No, I'm not. I'm anti-five-year-olds getting killed at school.
2:26 Speaker 02 I think everybody is.
2:27 Speaker 03 Exactly. But the right to bear arms is in the Constitution. That's not where my argument is. My argument is these poor babies.
2:35 Speaker 02 So how, I'm actually curious, how, what's, what's, what's the answer in your opinion?
2:40 Speaker 03 People like Adam Lanza shouldn't have access to guns. He's clearly, he was clearly off his rocker and his mom should have been more responsible. She should have done everything she could to lock up the gun. Parents have responsibility. This is not about restricting the Second Amendment. This is about making sure that people who are clearly lunatics should not be accessing guns. It's common sense.
3:00 Speaker 02 Do you think the parents should be held responsible?
3:04 Speaker 03 In this case, yeah, because Adam had a long history of mental illness. So it wasn't, this is not a leap. The mom should have been cognizant of the risks, but she was very slipshod and haphazard with the way that she handled guns.
3:18 Speaker 02 Yeah. All right. Well, we got a lot of stuff to talk about.
3:23 Speaker 03 I'm not a San Francisco liberal who wants, I'm not a Dianne Feinstein who wants to, you know, come to your house and take away your guns. That's not where I'm, just to be very clear.
3:30 Speaker 02 That's good. That's good. Because I'm not going to give them up. Not dumb, but, uh, um, but we have a lot of stuff to talk about. The most important subject, the one that I want to talk about the most is, you know, Biden's cognitive decline.
3:46 Speaker 03 I have so much to say about that.
3:47 Speaker 02 I can't wait to get into that, but I, I just have one thing I have to know.
3:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:53 Speaker 02 Whose cocaine was in the White House?
3:57 Speaker 03 Oh my gosh.
4:01 Speaker 03 Can I just say that I am friends with members of the Biden family, one of whom actually lives down the street from me. I think it's easy for people to figure out who does. I mean, I live in Philadelphia. Okay, fine, Ashley Biden lives in Philadelphia. I did hear from someone close to the Bidens that when Hunter said he was sober, he actually wasn't sober, and this is when Biden was president.
4:28 Speaker 02 So it was Hunter's Coke?
4:29 Speaker 03 I can't say for sure that that particular bag of Coke was his, but I'm just saying that when he claimed to be sober, he wasn't sober.
4:36 Speaker 02 Oh, okay. I think if it was Hunter's, it probably would have been an empty bag.
4:41 Speaker 03 But I'm just saying, you know, he had this mirage of the fact that, you know, he pretended to turn the leaf, he pretended to be a good man now, but a lot of that was just a charade.
4:55 Speaker 02 Yeah. Hunter definitely likes to party.
4:58 Speaker 03 He certainly does. And going to that, I want everyone to know that at every event, he was in the front row, sitting like he was royalty. And a part of me was just like cringing inside because he was waltzing around, like the entire world didn't see him prancing around naked with prostitutes and snorting cocaine. I just like, does this guy have no shame to be at the White House in the hallowed halls of the people's house, pretending like nothing happened, pretending like the world didn't see him in a bathtub?
5:31 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think there was a lot of the past four years, a lot of disgusting stuff that happened over in the Capitol and in the White House. I mean, there was that, who was that guy? That guy that was...
5:44 Speaker 03 I asked one of your staff if I'm allowed to curse in here, like fucking in Congress?
5:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:49 Speaker 03 Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. It's like, it embodies everything that's wrong with the Democratic Party.
5:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, that, and then the...
5:57 Speaker 03 And then the topless man, let's just say a man, on the south lawn of the White House.
6:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, that was...
6:03 Speaker 03 An absolute disgrace.
6:04 Speaker 02 That was crazy, man.
6:05 Speaker 03 Disgusting.
6:06 Speaker 02 That was crazy. I was actually in DC when that happened. Not at that party, though.
6:13 Speaker 03 I would have questions of who were that party.
6:16 Speaker 02 But, and then.
6:18 Speaker 03 I wasn't, I'm usually invited to stuff. I wasn't invited to that party.
6:21 Speaker 02 And then, before we get started, when you, when you, when we first met you, what happened on Joe's podcast? He came out and said something about the Harris, uh.
6:32 Speaker 03 He came out this morning, or the clip, the clip was released this morning. He basically exposed the Harris campaign as a liar, as though we didn't already know that, but. So a book is coming out. That states that it was Joe's fault. That Kamala didn't go on his podcast. Joe basically came out and put the lie to that. The Harris campaign wanted to blame him for it not working out.
6:59 Speaker 02 Why? Why do they want to?
7:00 Speaker 03 Because they realized it was the biggest fuck up to not do the podcast. She should have been on your show. She should have been on Joe's podcast. She, she should have been everywhere. Instead of building $100,000 shop, um. Fake set for Call Her Daddy.
7:13 Speaker 02 Yeah. We, we invited her. We were talking to her people and, you know, it was. It could only be an hour. Then we had to discuss the topics first and it got, it just got to the point where. I was like, look.
7:31 Speaker 02 Why don't you just give me the outline? And I'll do that interview because I don't care what you give me. I'll make it work and, um, and then. And you know what I think it was? I think it was the Bret Baer interview, which honestly, to be honest with you, I didn't even think it was that bad. I mean, there's a couple of parts, but I thought, I thought she handled it. Okay. And, uh, but after, it was like after that, it was dead silence. We had Newsweek put something out. We had the Washington Post put something out and it just turned into crickets, but.
8:02 Speaker 03 I don't understand why it's so hard for her to answer simple questions. I don't understand why she has to do these endless word salads. Like, why is it so hard for you to be human? Just answer the question. You don't have to talk in endless circles. I just don't get it and I know her. Like when I talk to her, she's fine, but when she does these interviews, she becomes like a android. You know what I mean? It's like, like Sean, you're talking to me like a real. Full-blooded person? Why can't she just be that? You know, we, we don't wanna rehearse. We don't wanna caricature as president. We want a human being that we can relate to.
8:40 Speaker 02 Why do you think she can't? Do you think she is intimidated? Do you think?
8:44 Speaker 03 There are several explanations. Some, some people say that she's just not that intelligent it could be. Maybe she can't think on her feet. Maybe she relies on, you know, um, talking points. But I have friends on her staff who tell me that she would get pissed at them for her own lack of preparation. Like she would yell and she would get frustrated at them for her own inability to read the talking points and to internalize them. Um, it's just, I don't know.
9:12 Speaker 04 So I, you know, I, we do need to move on because our time is short. But I'm trying to understand how it is that with this emphasis on the border, the numbers of crossings quadrupled under the first three years of the Biden-Harris administration. What, how did that happen?
9:34 Speaker 05 There are a variety of factors that relate to what we have seen globally and what we are not immune from at our own border in terms of what we have seen in terms of surge of immigration and irregular migration. And there are solutions at hand, but we've gotta have leaders who are solution-oriented, which we've been and are, and I am going forward, instead of leaders who want to make it a problem they can run on.
10:11 Speaker 02 She definitely didn't seem quick on her feet, but, um, but I would still love to interview her. And I'm glad Joe, you know, was able to set the record straight.
10:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, and I'm here. If you, I will give you as many names as you need in order to make the interview happen because I know she, she, her staff and she will see her requests, it's just a matter of her, her willingness, you know, because she's so afraid to fuck up.
10:35 Speaker 02 Yeah. What's she doing now?
10:38 Speaker 03 She's deciding whether to run for governor in 2026 or try again for 2028. And I had someone, I kid you not, call me at 3:30 a.m. this morning.
10:48 Speaker 02 Run for governor in California?
10:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, she didn't call me, but I have a mega donor. She's a co-founder of Two Factor Authorization. She called me at 3:30 a.m. this morning saying the Democratic Party is in shambles. Yes, we already knew that, but coming from the horse's mouth, it was very important. And she, um, she was saying how nobody, nobody, there's not a single person of importance in the Democratic Party thinks that Kamala Harris should run again. But Kamala Harris is in her cloud of delusion. She still might, she still might run again in 2028 for president. So right now, the choice is whether to run for California governor in 2026 or president in 2028. And let me tell you something that the press doesn't know about.
11:30 Speaker 03 In order to run for governor in 2026, she would have to betray one of her closest friends. Because the current lieutenant governor is a woman named Eleni. She's a long Greek last name, please don't make me say it. But she's the current lieutenant governor of California under Gavin Newsom. She is running for governor now. She's the current frontrunner. She's very close with Kamala. In fact, her cousin Kristin Bertolina Faust was Kamala Harris's finance chair. So for Kamala Harris to run for governor, she would have to stab her friend in the back. And I know, um, her, this is important because it's, it's a question of integrity versus ambition. Is she gonna put her friend first or she's gonna put her ambition first?
12:12 Speaker 03 If I were to, I mean, I know Kamala and I would say that she would probably put her ambition first. Um, friendship is collateral damage for her.
12:21 Speaker 02 Man, well, she'd probably be a shoo-in out in California.
12:26 Speaker 03 I don't know. I think honestly, after the fires, I think the fires were a game changer and showed even Democrats that the entire party is just a party of fuck. Like even liberals understand that now. There's been a complete mood shift across Hollywood. And I have donors across Hollywood, across finance, they are fed up.
12:45 Speaker 02 Wow. All right, well, let's move in. Got a couple of things to cover first. So I have a Patreon account. There are top subscribers, there are top supporters. A lot of them have been with us since the very beginning. I started this thing in my attic, believe it or not, and then we moved here. Now we're building a new studio and it's all because of them. But, um, so one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And so this question is from Eric Algar. Lindy? You're a strong advocate for progressive policies and frequently appear in the mainstream media to push your message. Conservatives often argue that media landscape is overwhelmingly biased towards the left.
13:28 Speaker 02 Silencing, distancing voices. Given your platform and reach, do you acknowledge that there is a media bias problem? And if not, how do you explain the censorship and suppression of conservative viewpoints on major platforms?
13:43 Speaker 03 I totally agree. Well, there's one element of that question that I'm gonna have to politely disagree with. I don't think I'm, I've never been an outright progressive. I'm progressive on the environment, but that's pretty much it. I want clean air and clean water, and I want to remind everybody this is a fundamentally Republican issue originated with Richard M. Nixon. He started the EPA. All right. Putting that aside, there is tremendous bias against conservatives across mainstream media. But I think the 2024 election was kind of, it's the moment when the crack just, you know, the crack deepened and people realized that the facade was falling.
14:23 Speaker 03 You know, the Democratic Party no longer, despite the entire array of the mainstream media, they still weren't able to perpetrate the lie that Biden wasn't in cognitive decline, that Kamala Harris wasn't a weak candidate. So finally, the scales are falling off of people's eyes and they're realizing the mainstream media is in cahoots with the Democratic Party and they're sick and tired of that. So I'm really glad that people like superstars like you, like Joe Rogan and so many, actually, you and Joe, just the two of you, and others in the podcast landscape, you guys are, you know, putting the lie to the mainstream narrative. For example, the Hunter Biden laptop story.
15:09 Speaker 03 I want to be, I'm here to be painfully honest, okay? I don't think the 2020 election was stolen, but I think it was rigged.
15:17 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. How do you think it was rigged?
15:19 Speaker 03 Because the Hunter Biden laptop story was real as fuck. It was real. It wasn't Russian disinformation. The intelligence, the intelligence community lied. Which is, I actually know Tulsi, I'll tell you why later, but she is right to question the conclusions of the intelligence community. Because these are the same people who told us that the Hunter Biden laptop story was fake. And they're still, the vast majority of Democrats are still gonna tell you that it's fake. It's not fake. Even the Washington Post did a deep, um, analysis of the contents of the laptop. And the Washington Post substantiated the validity of the laptop. Okay? And so the big guy, that's true. The 10%, 10% to the big guy, that's true.
16:03 Speaker 03 You know, they checked out the metadata. This is not, it's not Russian disinformation. And you have people like Anthony Blinken lying on behalf of his boss. That is not okay. So it may not have been stolen, but it was rigged. Because that story should have gone out. The New York Post shouldn't have been censored. People on social media, people on Facebook and Twitter at that time. They should have been able to spread that story. And I am sorry, I'm sorry, here, I'm gonna apologize, okay? I'm sorry that I, I bought into it. I didn't, I knew, I know Joe, okay? And a part of me is still gonna, I'm sorry if you think I'm nuts. But a part of me still is gonna love him for the rest of my life.
16:46 Speaker 03 Because of the kindness that he's shown to me, but now I know he's corrupt.
16:52 Speaker 02 Well, we're gonna dive into all that corruption. All right. Oh, and then lastly, everybody, everybody gets a gift here.
16:59 Speaker 03 Oh, my gosh!
17:00 Speaker 02 Little something for the ride home.
17:02 Speaker 03 This is amazing!
17:03 Speaker 02 The Jonsley gummy bears made here in the USA. They taste amazing. They're not the healthiest, but you know.
17:10 Speaker 03 Thank you so much. It's just in your store, everyone should buy them if they are.
17:13 Speaker 02 Oh yeah, they're in the store, but they're always sold out.
17:17 Speaker 03 Thank you. This is so kind.
17:18 Speaker 02 You're welcome. Alright, so let's move on. So, a little bit about you. Your great-grandfather was executed by the CCP, correct?
17:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, and he wasn't even a major dissident. He just raised objections at a village-town meeting. It wasn't even anything. It wasn't even anything important.
17:38 Speaker 02 What, what did he do?
17:40 Speaker 03 He just dared to. I don't, it wasn't even consequential enough to be documented. It was just, he disagreed with the local communist leaders and they just basically shot him. And so my dad grew up without a grandfather and my dad was so poor that he had dirt floors. It's amazing that he managed to come to the West. It's, it's amazing. He's the hardest-working person I've ever met in my life.
18:03 Speaker 02 So they immigrated to England?
18:06 Speaker 03 I did, actually.
18:07 Speaker 02 You did?
18:07 Speaker 03 My parents left me two weeks after I was born and then picked me up when they were ready and we went to Sheffield, England.
18:12 Speaker 02 Wow, wow. And then, how'd you get to the States?
18:16 Speaker 03 We did it the right way and that is why I feel so strongly about illegal immigration, let me tell you. It's illegal immigration. Why can't we say illegal aliens? Isn't that what they are? Like, enough of the euphemisms, okay? Democrats police our language and it's ridiculous. These people are illegal immigrants. We waited for years to come here. We came here with 200 bucks. We never took a hand out. We did everything the right way. We got, we built our life through blood, sweat and tears. And that is the way it should be. No one should be storming the southern border, okay? We all had desperate lives. The CCP were literally killing, was literally killing us, so. It might, you know, it's just...
19:01 Speaker 03 We are not the trash can of the world.
19:03 Speaker 02 It's interesting, though. I mean, I'm just curious because a lot of, you know, you see a lot of people that come from communist countries or have roots in communist countries, China, Cuba, Venezuela. I mean, you go to South Florida and Cubans are terrified
19:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
19:23 Speaker 02 that the US is gonna wind up like Cuba. And a lot of the, a lot of the people of Chinese descent that I talk to too are terrified that the US is, is starting to turn into communism in some way, shape, or form. And so I'm just curious, how did you, what was the path to becoming a Democrat? Are your parents Democrats?
19:47 Speaker 03 No, they weren't even really political.
19:49 Speaker 02 They're not political?
19:50 Speaker 03 Well, I grew up in suburban Pennsylvania and that was Democratic. So my local congressman actually was a veteran named Joe Sestak. Have you heard of him? He was a three-star admiral.
20:02 Speaker 02 Hmm.
20:02 Speaker 03 And so it was almost by default. I interned for him starting at age 13, and then it was Obama. He was elected when I was 17 years old, so I was fully indoctrinated. I went to Princeton. It's like a very, very liberal bastion. Being a conservative there was
20:23 Speaker 03 a blemish. You just couldn't. I can think of like two conservatives, two Republicans. It was just not a thing you could do. It was the age of Obama. People were enthralled by him. So it wasn't an option to be a Democrat. I actually didn't realize until recently that I could be a Republican. And let me remind you, I live in Philadelphia, where there's this eight to one voter registration difference. It's not okay to be a Republican. You're ostracized. I've lost all my friends, Sean. Friends. They were fake. I mean, I actually had someone b-reating me, someone whom I thought was a friend. He was texting me. He basically said, "How could you?"
21:05 Speaker 03 You don't, you can never reply to questions like that. So in my Instagram story, I replied to everybody. It was like, "Shaming me isn't gonna change a single thing."
21:12 Speaker 02 Yeah.
21:15 Speaker 03 But, yeah, Sean, I've lost-
21:17 Speaker 02 So you kinda got groomed into it.
21:20 Speaker 03 It just, yeah, there was no other option.
21:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
21:23 Speaker 03 There were no other Republicans. Like, where were they? I, I lived in the collar counties of Pennsylvania, they're all Democrats.
21:29 Speaker 02 Yeah. Okay, and so, so you in, you interned at thirteen?
21:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm, I'm kind of weird. I had a really difficult childhood.
21:39 Speaker 02 You did?
21:40 Speaker 03 I did, yeah.
21:41 Speaker 02 How so?
21:47 Speaker 03 It's just tough being an immigrant kid. I love my parents, but it was tough. It was really tough. I, um,
21:57 Speaker 03 English is my second language. It's my parents' second language. I, I survived childhood by playing Chopin and Tchaikovsky and Liszt and Mozart and Beethoven on the piano for hours on end. That is how I survived. And like, um, who said it? Was it Nietzsche or somebody else? Somebody said it. Was it Nietzsche? He said, "Without music, life would be a mistake." And I survived by hanging on to music.
22:28 Speaker 02 Okay, okay.
22:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:30 Speaker 02 So, how did, so how did you, so you interned at thirteen?
22:35 Speaker 03 And that went on. It wasn't just thirteen, it was like thirteen, fourteen, like entire time. It started then.
22:40 Speaker 02 So you had, you had interest in politics at age thirteen?
22:44 Speaker 03 Absolutely. Actually, and you know the people who guided me? It was a guy named Bill Walsh. He was also a veteran. He was, he was part of the Navy. And he, even today, when I started exposing the Democrats and their corruption, he sent, he, he continually sends me messages saying how he's still proud of me. This is a Navy that, you know, um, you guys have always had my back. It's just, um, so yeah, I've, I've always wanted to make, I had to change the world.
23:14 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
23:15 Speaker 03 Do you understand? You're one of those who, I can tell. You just, you just got to.
23:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:20 Speaker 03 A normal life would be the greatest,
23:24 Speaker 03 it would be the worst for you.
23:27 Speaker 02 Be kind of boring.
23:28 Speaker 03 It would be the worst.
23:29 Speaker 02 A lot of people like boring.
23:30 Speaker 03 I can't.
23:31 Speaker 02 You know, but so then you move on age twenty four. You run for Congress.
23:37 Speaker 03 I was an investment banker at that time, Morgan Stanley.
23:40 Speaker 02 You were an investment banker?
23:41 Speaker 03 Yes, Morgan Stanley.
23:42 Speaker 02 And then you ran for Congress.
23:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, I hated Wall Street. It was so empty. I started, um. People just didn't really give a shit about anything but money.
23:50 Speaker 02 Mm hmm. And then, how did you get involved? In the White House?
23:58 Speaker 03 Oh, I think I skipped a major part. Well, I was the first woman at Princeton to be elected president all four years. And that gave me the confidence to do whatever I wanted. Like, I just knew that I. So at age seventeen, I was knocking on hundreds of doors and getting rejected and, you know. Spit on and vilified, but that gave me the resilience to just keep going. And let me tell you, you know Steve Carell? He was a graduation speaker that day for my graduation. It was raining. It's online. Um, on graduation day, the dean of the university told me not to give my speech because of the rain. I told Steve that. I said, they're not gonna get, let me give my speech. I've been, I've waited for this year for four years.
24:39 Speaker 03 And Steve told me, you're on live TV. If you go up, they can't pull you back down. Um, so that's what I did.
24:48 Speaker 02 Nice.
24:48 Speaker 03 That day, I had won reelection as alumni president, so they had to call me up. And when I went up, I gave my whole speech. Whole speech, not a word. Not a word except, uh, um, missing. Um, and Steve was right. And I got a standing ovation because of that speech. And that was the moment I knew I was born to do this. This is what I was.
25:11 Speaker 03 This is what I was put on this earth to do.
25:13 Speaker 02 Nice. And so how did, how did you get involved in the White House? How'd you get connected there?
25:18 Speaker 03 With the Biden White House?
25:19 Speaker 02 Yes.
25:21 Speaker 03 Well, I was also involved with the Clintons and this is a long time coming. This is like a decade. So, um.
25:32 Speaker 03 Wow, I've I've been involved with the DNC for like a decade.
25:37 Speaker 02 Okay.
25:37 Speaker 03 So people realize that I was able to deliver. I was a huge fundraiser. I helped with Pennsylvania. I'm a commissioner. The governor appointed me a commissioner of the Commonwealth. I'm really involved with him, Governor Shapiro. I raised millions of dollars for members of Congress. People like Senator Duckworth, who was also a vet. She, I know she came down hard against Hegseth. But I do want to give credit where credit is due. On a human level, she's a really decent person. You can choose not to believe me, but she is a decent person. And I'm sorry that she was so harsh on Pete. I cringed too.
26:15 Speaker 02 So were you the primary fundraiser for the Biden Harris campaign?
26:20 Speaker 03 I was one of the top. I was the youngest member on their National Finance Committee.
26:23 Speaker 02 How much money did you raise?
26:25 Speaker 03 Tens of millions.
26:26 Speaker 02 Tens of millions of dollars.
26:27 Speaker 03 Tens of millions. And that includes a super PAC as well. There's a super PAC which raised about 1.5 billion.
26:34 Speaker 02 Wow.
26:34 Speaker 03 It's called Future Forward, and they totally fucked up. They should have responded to the trans ad. But they kind of just let Trump have it. And he's right. I don't want a president who wants to fund gender reassignment surgery for prisoners. Do you?
26:48 Speaker 02 No.
26:49 Speaker 03 Exactly.
26:51 Speaker 02 Definitely not. But so I want to I want to get into kind of the meat of why you're here. Biden's cognitive decline. And so you're basically coming out and saying that the cover up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline, basically, it's it's not. It's not a conspiracy. He was declining, correct?
27:16 Speaker 03 The conspiracy was a cover up.
27:18 Speaker 02 Mm hmm.
27:18 Speaker 03 That is conspiracy. And it was a years long conspiracy, and it started escalating in 2022. His situation got seriously worse. I was on the trail with him in 2019. I went to San Francisco. I was actually within the day after the debate. Do you remember when Kamala claimed I'm a racist? Do you remember that, Glenn?
27:38 Speaker 02 No, but you know, I'm.
27:41 Speaker 02 I remember in 2020 and in parts of 2019, you know, I don't really, I don't watch any legacy media anymore. But at the time I did because, you know, COVID was rampant, obviously. It was the start of it. So everybody's glued, you know, what's going on, what's happening? And at the same time, the, you know, the debates were getting ready to fire up. And I remember Fox kept saying over and over again that this guy, you know, is, he's not with it. Nobody's at the wheel. Nobody's driving this train. This is, this is basically just describing what we now we all know is true. But I didn't buy into it.
28:22 Speaker 02 I was like, ah, this has to be, this has to be way over embellished. There's no way somebody would be running for president. And then I remember watching the first debate with my wife and I saw him come up and I saw him struggling to put a sentence together and I was like, holy shit. This is real. And, and so, you know, I didn't understand how anybody bought off on it from the first debate. I can't even remember exactly what he said. We're going to roll some of the clips, uh, during the interview of, of, of how that went. But, I mean, I, I thought it was very apparent right at the very get go, debate one, that he, he wasn't with it.
29:07 Speaker 02 And so, when did you notice?
29:08 Speaker 06 Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the, uh, with, with the COVID, excuse me, with, um, dealing with everything we have to do with, uh, look, if we finally beat Medicare.
29:29 Speaker 00 Thank you, President Biden. President Trump?
29:31 Speaker 07 Well, he's right. He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death and he's destroying Medicare.
29:36 Speaker 03 Sean, I have to say that.
29:40 Speaker 03 Again, I'm unlike the Democrats, I will take responsibility. In 2019, when the debates were happening, and into 2020, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. He told me that it was a stutter and a speech impediment. So I was like, okay, all right, maybe it is. Maybe it gets worse with age. I'll extend him grace. And this is a guy who showed me tremendous kindness. I actually met him not through politics. I met him because I was a trustee of the American Association for Cancer Research. I met him in 2016. Okay, so I'd known him when I was 25. And because he showed me kindness then, I believed him.
30:25 Speaker 03 Like, I decided to, okay, maybe he just is tripping over his words. But this is a guy who still has control of his mental faculties. So in 2019, 2020, I didn't really think it was an issue. It just didn't really occur to me. And I wasn't watching Fox then. So it wasn't a narrative that I was exposed to.
30:43 Speaker 02 You didn't see slow decision making or inability to put, I mean, you chalk that up.
30:49 Speaker 03 He remembered my dad's name at that point, which I thought was impressive because most people wouldn't. Like, and it wasn't, he doesn't like hang out with my dad. He just met him once. So I thought it was impressive. Maybe it was just good luck on his part that he happened to remember that my dad's name is Richard.
31:04 Speaker 02 So, I mean, and then, you know, I want to, you were a big fundraiser for the campaign too. So I wanted to, let's dive into a little bit of the campaign. You know, back then, you know, there were all these, Trump had thousands of people showing up. Biden wasn't really, he didn't have anybody showing up.
31:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, and I want to bring your, I don't think people realize this. In May 2019, when he was running for president the first time, I remember talking to our friend and saying, there's more press here than actual attendees. Like, what's going on here? This is in the middle of Philadelphia. It's a hugely democratic city.
31:44 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
31:45 Speaker 03 The turnout should be much more robust than this. I thought it was just because it was hot that day. Like, Sean, I realize now that I was making so many excuses for him, but I really, when someone is your friend, you really just want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But at some point, you realize that reality is just way too discordant with the narrative that they're presenting. So around 2021, 2022, I was like, okay, this is getting to be a little bit ridiculous.
32:18 Speaker 03 And I was-
32:19 Speaker 02 What was it that you saw? What did you see that was getting ridiculous?
32:24 Speaker 03 I would be at private events and he would have a teleprompter at private events with like 10 people. This is not a major speech. And at private events where everybody wanted him to succeed, it wasn't, it wasn't an aggressive crowd. This is like a crowd of his top donors. Not only that, you would have Jamie Harrison, the DNC chair, pre-selecting questions and telling us, telling the rest of us basically to shut up. We weren't allowed to talk. And confiscating our phones.
32:54 Speaker 02 Confiscating your phones.
32:56 Speaker 03 They confiscated my phone. Not only that, somebody, and he knows who he is.
33:01 Speaker 02 Who is he?
33:02 Speaker 03 He's, well, he's, he's Asian. He was, they know who it is. I, he's no longer there, but-
33:08 Speaker 02 We're here to drop names, Lindy.
33:09 Speaker 03 He's not important enough to drop, you know? He's like the civilian. He was big. If it's, if it's important person, I will, like I do with Jamie. And I'm sure it came down from Jamie. He specifically asked me never to tweet anything about any of these events, never to post any pictures, never to post any Instagram stories. I had posted an Instagram story from a dinner with Biden. He pulled me aside very angrily and told me to take it down. It wasn't even a video, it was a picture. That's how, that's how tightly wound the operation got to be.
33:45 Speaker 02 Why did they prop him up? Why was it him?
33:48 Speaker 03 Because the alternative for them was so dire. The alternative for them for would have been Kamala Harris and they thought she was such a shitty candidate that they had to prop him up. And so it's just so ironic to me that within days she became the second coming of Jesus. Like everyone thought she was, they didn't hate her, they just thought so little of her. Do you understand? Like they just didn't think she was capable of,
34:16 Speaker 03 you know, litigating a campaign and they were right, but um.
34:19 Speaker 02 And none of the other candidates would have been.
34:22 Speaker 03 The thing about that, and I know.
34:24 Speaker 02 Was it Tulsi?
34:27 Speaker 03 Tulsi about that time had gone off the reservation. She was in, to her credit, she left knowing that the entire thing was rotten. She left. That was good. Good on, good on her. But people wanted to run against Biden and I don't, um, they're not going to tell you publicly, but I'm going to tell you right now. They commissioned polls because they wanted to run against Biden, but given his name ID, no one could beat him. So pre-debate Biden was still stronger than Shapiro, still stronger than Newsom, Whitmer, Harris, Buttigieg. Right? So if they could have, they would have, but they couldn't. And the only dude who actually did, Dean Phillips was a total like loser and no one knew who he was. He had like zero name ID.
35:13 Speaker 03 But let me tell you amongst the donor class, no one wanted a second Biden term. Nobody did. And so Jeff Katzenberg, Jeff Katzenberg, the DreamWorks dude. He was the architect behind everything. He would invite top donors to the Oval Office and do tours and not ask for money in the White House. But the undertone was so abundantly clear, like come on, like, why do you think you're invited? And um, everyone who was invited on these tours was expected to write the max check, which is like $938,000. That's the, that's the FEC limit. One person can give $938,000.
35:56 Speaker 03 Any, but that's the limit for the campaign, but all bets are off for the super PAC. You can give as much as you want.
36:03 Speaker 02 So, so back to, what, what, what was it that, I mean, was it a, was it one event that you witnessed that, that you realized, and I think you said 2022 is when you started to see?
36:14 Speaker 03 Twenty, late 2021, um, 2022. I hosted, things became like undeniable in 2023, and that's actually when I started leaking to the press. This is the first time I said that. But yeah, I started leaking to the press, and you will see some, some of my background quotes in articles, um, with a political reporter named Holly Otterbean. I tried, I basically said, you know, this is crazy. This is nuts. He's not in any shape or form capable.
36:48 Speaker 02 I mean, what was it, though? I mean, we saw him falling down the steps of Air Force One. We saw him fall off his bike. We saw him, we saw him go past Secret Service or the Marines or whatever, or just, just like, oh, I forgot the White House doors over here, and just kept walking.
37:04 Speaker 03 And how he fell up the steps, like, fell up the steps.
37:06 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:07 Speaker 03 Saw that. But I was raising the red flag before all of that because of his inability to formulate thoughts. Um, and also,
37:20 Speaker 03 the truth of the matter is that for the past four years, the White House has been run by his senior advisers and Jill Biden.
37:27 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. We'll get to that. We'll get to that.
37:30 Speaker 03 And I will name the senior advisers.
37:32 Speaker 02 But what, we, we will get to that. But, I mean, did you have a lot of personal intera- interaction with him while he was in?
37:39 Speaker 03 And that's why it was so hard because, Sean, please don't judge me, but I'm here to be honest, and I love the man. I still do because he was so kind to me, and I want to make it very clear, this is not personal for me right now. This is our country, and the American people.
37:58 Speaker 03 It's so ironic that people are now blasting Elon for not being elected. But you know who else wasn't elected? The senior advisers who were running our country for the past four years while our president was just not present.
38:14 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. So what were these interactions like? Walk me through one. Walk me through the first one where you-
38:20 Speaker 03 Oh, my gosh, I have a perfect one, actually. I, um, he had given a speech and they usually put me in the front row so he could easily see me afterwards. He, you know, usually would greet me like, "Lindy", he would remember my name. But one time he said, "Tell your husband I said hi."
38:38 Speaker 03 Shaun, I don't have a husband.
38:48 Speaker 03 I just remember, um-
38:52 Speaker 02 Wow.
38:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, and he knows that.
38:56 Speaker 02 What are some more?
38:58 Speaker 03 Um, I, I am, I do think it's kind of like, maybe it's just a quirk that he did remember my dad's name. Maybe it's, I don't, I don't know why he just always did. Uh, maybe it was just a one-off thing, um.
39:14 Speaker 03 It wasn't even the personal interactions that raised the flag. It's the way that he had, the way that he couldn't answer basic questions that were already prescreened by the party. And I would just be waiting with bated breath for him to finish the sentence because he couldn't finish it. Like matters of basic American policy and how, for example, he would shit on our allies at private events. Like he called our ally Japan xenophobic. Japan is a critical ally.
39:48 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
39:48 Speaker 03 FYI, like in case you didn't know. Th- this is an American president vilifying our ally just offhandedly because he forgot or whatever that you weren't supposed to do that. These are just like basic things you shouldn't be doing. Like, right? It's just, um- Um, he just didn't have it together and.
40:11 Speaker 02 Were you part of the prep team?
40:12 Speaker 03 No, I'm, no, I'm not. I, I'm actually, I'm proudly not part of the prep team because they failed the country.
40:19 Speaker 02 And they would run him through these questions, I'm sure, time and time again, before he actually gives a speech or has an event, correct?
40:26 Speaker 03 Right, and the people around Bob Bauer, Ron Klain, his chief of staff, his first chief of staff, these are the people who are largely responsible um for his prep or lack of prep or inability to absorb the information. And they had to, you know, so he really liked handouts, like printed material, and everything on his printed material would be really big and graphic and colored and there would, there would be signs, like, "Stand here" or like, "Exit stage left." Everything would be abundantly clear, like, it would be like for kinder- kindergartner.
41:03 Speaker 02 Wow.
41:04 Speaker 03 Um, and also you could tell that the president wasn't fully present because he completely neglected the people who put him there. Uh, this is just the messy part of politics, and Trump is great at that. He's great at taking care of his friends, and you need to do that because that's just the essence of politics. You had dozens of top donors, dozens of top supporters who were writing into the Oval Office saying, "What the fuck is happening? Why are we being completely ignored?" People who are still angry to this day that they were ignored by them Biden White House. Um, because the president wasn't there. He just wasn't. And so you had a bunch of twenty, thirty old staffers running the show. Not only that,
41:52 Speaker 03 these staffers are basically nerds who are reliving their high school days by living out their fantasies in the most powerful residence in the world. And what I mean by that is they commandeered the White House Social Office and the, the, the coveted list, the invite list. They would invite all their own friends instead of inviting Biden or Harris's friends. And so they commandeered the White House Social Secretary list for their own benefit, political gain, rather than doing, you know, executing the wishes of the president. And it got to be a serious issue that I helped to raise. We eventually rectified it. But you had a bunch of like me- millennials and Gen Zers running the show.
42:35 Speaker 02 Wow, so.
42:38 Speaker 03 And you can tell, you can tell by looking at the photos, it was the same group of people over and over again, the same cabal of far-left influencers.
42:47 Speaker 02 Geez. So there was like, nobody at the wheel.
42:54 Speaker 02 Running this country.
42:55 Speaker 03 The senior advisors, and do you want me to name them?
42:59 Speaker 02 In a minute, in a minute. But, what I want to ask is, how did they, did they intimidate you not to leak? You had mentioned-
43:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, they did, they did. Well, you remember with the policing of the photos and the... I was really, you know, I had raised like a million dollars for the event at which they told me I couldn't post anything, and where they confiscated my phone, they put it in a Ziploc bag?
43:25 Speaker 03 And they didn't pull anybody else aside, they pulled me aside. I was really struck by that, and, um...
43:33 Speaker 03 But that was minor compared to what happened eventually. I, it got to the point, this is after the debate, it got to the point where it's like, okay, I really need to do something, not just to save the party, but to save the country, because Biden is in no way, shape, or form capable of being commander in chief. I told Shannon Bream from Fox News Sunday that I wanted to say this on the record. Politico publishes the names of the people who go on Fox News Sunday the evening before. And I guess they check that every night, um, the White House checks that every night. They called me the night of July 20th, and I have, I have the receipts on my phone, because I texted somebody.
44:17 Speaker 02 Can we see them?
44:18 Speaker 03 I'm gonna show you right now, actually.
44:19 Speaker 02 We'll put them up on screen.
44:21 Speaker 03 Can we cover the person's name that I'm texting?
44:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, you can airdrop it to us and we'll put it up on screen.
44:28 Speaker 03 But let me show you now. Um... So you know...
44:35 Speaker 03 Do you see the date, July 20th?
44:39 Speaker 03 The White House just called to babysit me?
44:42 Speaker 02 Can I read it?
44:43 Speaker 03 Oh, oh wait, leave out any private parts, I didn't, did I say anything private?
44:48 Speaker 02 No.
44:51 Speaker 02 Are you still free to chat? Maybe text, long day. Okay. This may be the most important day of my life. I still haven't fully figured out how to navigate telling the truth about Biden. Learning, in parentheses, earning Fox's favor. And covering for the Biden, in parentheses, earning the White House's. The White House called me today to babysit me. I got the message. They said that I am the biggest offender of the president's. Yikes. What was the message? To hold the line, stay loyal. And in exchange? Can I go down?
45:30 Speaker 03 I don't, wait, hold on.
45:34 Speaker 02 I didn't even tell them, but Politico and Fox announced my appearance. Fox has been promoting it. They even cut an ad.
45:42 Speaker 02 I also have other issues.
45:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, so? Do you understand what's going on here?
45:48 Speaker 02 Tell us.
45:49 Speaker 03 They called me the night before Fox News Sunday saying, it was like a Tony Soprano move. Stay loyal. We know that you're the president's biggest supporter.
45:59 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
46:01 Speaker 03 It was the friendliest threat.
46:03 Speaker 02 So what do you think they would have done? What, what? I mean, it's pretty vague.
46:07 Speaker 03 Done. I've been banned from every event.
46:12 Speaker 03 I...
46:13 Speaker 02 Did you?
46:15 Speaker 02 I mean? So what I don't understand is?
46:20 Speaker 02 In essence, I think most Americans, country comes first, not party. Correct? And so? How many people? Inside the Democratic Party? Put the party over the country?
46:36 Speaker 03 Ninety-nine point ninety-nine percent.
46:39 Speaker 02 So pretty much all of them?
46:40 Speaker 03 Everybody. I mean, they see, I am the guinea pig.
46:44 Speaker 02 Why? Why, why? Why are they s- Why is the party more important than the country?
46:49 Speaker 03 Because it's a religion for them. They, they don't have a religion, so it's become their religion. Wow, that's the first time I've- I think that's really it. It's their entire lives. Sean, I'm telling you, I lost all my friends. I have nobody left other than my, you know, actual friends. They've all left me. I used to get texts from senators, members of Congress on a daily basis. Or even especially on holidays, I would get gifts in the mail. I got nothing this year. I got banned by the White House Holiday Party. I used to go to the VIP Naval Observatory Party. I got banned by all of that. I got banned from calls. And what did I do? Like, I, I would, I'm,
47:29 Speaker 03 I was treated worse than a low-life criminal. And I'm someone who's never, I don't even drink alcohol. Like, I've never, I've never done anything. I live the most straight edge life and they treat me like I'm some like crack dealer.
47:44 Speaker 02 And what, what year was that? July twenty-two, July twenty-second or what year?
47:48 Speaker 03 Twenty twenty, twenty twenty-four.
47:50 Speaker 02 Twenty twenty-four?
47:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
47:52 Speaker 02 How long did you want to come out before that?
47:54 Speaker 03 I already did. I told you that I was leaking to the press. Like, you can tell who, you can read my quotes if you just Google Holly Otterbean's political articles. I'm on background numerous times saying that Biden is too old to run. And there are members of Congress and senators who would tell me that Biden is too old to run, but they didn't have the guts to say so. And one of them who told me that Biden was too old to run, ended up being the chair of his campaign.
48:27 Speaker 02 Jeez. So they have no courage whatsoever?
48:31 Speaker 03 No courage. But they see what happens when you do have courage.
48:37 Speaker 03 I lost every, I lost everything.
48:40 Speaker 02 What did you start leaking to the press?
48:42 Speaker 03 Twenty twenty-two.
48:43 Speaker 02 What did you start leaking to the press?
48:44 Speaker 03 The Biden was in, Biden couldn't run again.
48:48 Speaker 02 Did you give specific examples?
48:51 Speaker 03 Um, they didn't. I think if I were, if I did, it would identify me. And at that point, I wasn't, it's, it's really hard to, it's like coming out of a cult. You just can't. It's really hard. They will, it's like coming out of the Church of Scientology. They will do everything to discredit you, just own you, um, to destroy you.
49:13 Speaker 03 Sean.
49:18 Speaker 03 I hope my parents aren't gonna, I hope my parents aren't gonna watch this and I'm, I'm just gonna hope for the best here. But let me tell you, this has been one of the hardest periods of my life. And, um, it's been so stressful for me. I no longer,
49:43 Speaker 03 I, I, sorry, I, I no longer, I no longer, I've, I have health issues because of this.
49:52 Speaker 03 I can't, I can't bring myself to say, but maybe someone can, someone can understand. It's been so hard. Like what, people call me a grifter and I, and that I earn money by doing this. I'm asking like, who paid me for this? Like you tell me. Like where are my pay stubs? Who do you think paid me? Fox didn't pay me. Who paid me? Are you paying me?
50:16 Speaker 02 I'm not paying.
50:16 Speaker 03 No one's paying me. And so how am I a grifter when I'm exposing the actual grifters? The people who actually lied to the American people?
50:24 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. Well, how was the, how did the press receive the information? I mean, it wasn't just DC the problem.
50:32 Speaker 03 They chased after me. They were very happy to get my quotes.
50:35 Speaker 02 They were?
50:36 Speaker 03 Very happy, yeah. And they agreed with me. The entire, like Politico, um, ABC News, all of these outfits I would work with. Everyone thought that Biden was unfit. I, I don't know a single person who thinks that Biden was fit to run. I, I don't. Other than James Clyburn, who like really drinks the Kool-Aid. I, I don't know of a single person.
50:59 Speaker 02 Man, I mean, it took a long time for him to admit that. I mean, which is heard time and time again. I mean, didn't his doctors say, oh, he's the best press fit president ever? And, I mean, who were his doctors?
51:10 Speaker 03 Let me tell you something else. Um, Jen O'Malley Dillon, his campaign chair, right? After the debate, she calls me and a few other donors. I'm in my 30s. I'm a marathon runner. I'm vegan. I live a very healthy life. She tells us on the phone call,
51:30 Speaker 03 she literally says, Biden is healthier than all of you. Don't worry about it.
51:38 Speaker 03 And I, we were, it was a Zoom call and I was texting other people on the call saying, "What the fuck? What, did you just hear what she said? Like, does she think, like, is she stupid? Does she think we're stupid? How could she possibly say something like that?
51:53 Speaker 03 And this is the same Jen O'Malley Dillon who issued that press release on election night saying that Kamala still had a path to victory. I was like, "Oh, my God, these people are just completely just...
52:05 Speaker 03 They're just, they've lost it."
52:07 Speaker 02 I mean, as far as cognitive decline goes, I mean, it's not just a Democrat issue. It's also a Republican issue. I mean, look at McConnell. Spaces out, time after time again, doesn't know where he's at. Evan Strokes on camera. Feinstein died in office. I mean, am I missing? There's, there's probably more. Who am I missing? But, so, I mean, it was the president and I think that they definitely...
52:36 Speaker 03 Stakes are so much higher with the president.
52:38 Speaker 02 But, I mean...
52:39 Speaker 03 It was a weekend at Bernie's situation.
52:41 Speaker 02 Jeez.
52:44 Speaker 02 Jeez. So what, so you didn't get any pushback from, from the left-leaning media? They, they wanted, they, they were, you were feeding them and they were chasing after you?
52:54 Speaker 03 There was no pushback, yeah.
52:56 Speaker 02 And what year did that start? That was also in 2024? Or 2022?
53:02 Speaker 03 As soon as I realized. I felt like I had a responsibility to at least tell somebody. Like, if I wasn't gonna come out and use my face, I was, I needed to say something.
53:10 Speaker 02 What outlets gave you the most?
53:13 Speaker 03 Politico.
53:14 Speaker 02 Politico?
53:14 Speaker 03 Yeah. Um, I think, yeah. Politico, Washington Post,
53:25 Speaker 03 ABC News, MSNBC, CNN. I worked with all of them. I've been blackballed by all of them now, too.
53:33 Speaker 02 Why are you blackballed? They were chasing after you and now they have blackballed.
53:36 Speaker 03 Because I dared to ask questions about the Harris campaign.
53:42 Speaker 03 They, uh, someone high up at MSNBC left a comment on my Instagram the other day calling me nasty.
53:51 Speaker 02 Wow.
53:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, um.
53:58 Speaker 02 So, does the Democrat Party pay these outlets? How are they controlled?
54:08 Speaker 03 Sean, I forgot to tell you an actual, actually, pretty important fact. So after I exposed Biden's cognitive decline on Fox News Sunday,
54:20 Speaker 03 they called me the night before, I already told you, they called me afterwards too. I didn't pick up. And they called me three times angrily. I, I never, I don't pick up, but I can probably guess what they were gonna say. They weren't, they weren't happy. And that woman who called me, she was a woman, who ended up being high up in the communica-, she became high up in the Harris campaign and became a communications person for Harris. I think she was yanking me off of MSNBC every time I was about to go on and they put on Ian Sams instead. The first time it happened, I was like, okay, that's just really bad luck on my part, I'll just write it off. But it kept happening. It happened
55:02 Speaker 03 five times and I've documented it. Every time I would announce I was going on MSNBC, moments later, I would get yanked. And it would always be the same person who replaced me and it'd be the White House spokesperson, Ian Sams. And so, I, I remember, I remember calling my mom. I was like, what is going on here? Like, the first time, okay, the second time, there was a pattern and it kept happening. It got to the point where I no longer announced any of my appearances because I would summarily get yanked. I would get an email from MSNBC saying, hold up, either the White House or the Harris campaign has somebody else. We can't do you today, we're sorry.
55:44 Speaker 03 And so, it never happened to me before I blew the whistle on the age thing, but it happened so many times afterwards and it, it's like... It's so hard on you. It's really hard, you know, and it's humiliating. It's, I felt like shit. I felt awful.
56:03 Shawn Ryan? Man, I'm gonna ask you again, or I didn't ask you, but what, what, what health issues are you having from all the stress and all the blowback coming back from the Democratic Party?
56:16 Speaker 03 I really hope my parents aren't watching these. They're strict Asians. I don't get my period.
56:29 Speaker 03 It's like a psychosomatic thing, so you can't be in a, you can't be in a survival mode.
56:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
56:38 Shawn Ryan? I'm sorry to hear that.
56:40 Speaker 03 Well, hopefully, um, hopefully I'll get it back. Sorry, that's too much TMI.
56:48 Shawn Ryan? Well, um, let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, I want to talk about who is actually running the White House.
56:55 Speaker 03 Sounds good. Thank you.
56:59 Shawn Ryan? I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force-feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world. And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign Superbad. She's made two different appearances here on the Sean Ryan Show.
57:43 Shawn Ryan? And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind-blowing. And so I've asked her if she would...
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58:41 Speaker 02 All right, Lindy, we're back from the break. We're gonna get into some names here, bud. You know, just on the, what, 10-minute break that we took, guess what? Mitch McConnell fell down the stairs again. My producer Jeremy just found it on Twitter, right? So, dude, this is a huge problem. This is a huge problem.
59:01 Speaker 03 The United States is a gerontocracy.
59:02 Speaker 02 What? I ju- I don't know what... How do people keep voting this shit in? It's just, it's just mind-blowing on, on either side. It just doesn't make any damn sense to me at all.
59:16 Speaker 03 It's name ID and it's money, the power of money. It's very alluring. It's really hard to go up against the hundreds of millions of dollars that Mitch McConnell can array time and time again. And that's how much it costs to run for senate nowadays.
59:28 Speaker 02 Yeah, but you see that, you see it here, you see, right now. You can do a podcast for free and we crush the numbers of mainstream media. It's ridiculous.
59:37 Speaker 03 That's why you're changing the game. Like, in the past couple of years, you guys have redefined what it means to be a politician's voting, where you need to be. Kamala Harris fucked up because she didn't go on your podcast, because she didn't go on Joe's podcast, and now they realize, too late. But you guys, you were right, you redefined the game in recent years, and it's gonna be different. That the power is shifting away from cable TV to people like you.
1:00:04 Speaker 02 I'm just trying to humanize the candidate, find out who exactly they are, where they grew up, what their, what their actual values are, and it's, I think it's hard to, it's hard to hide that in a two, three-hour interview, even an hour-long interview.
1:00:18 Speaker 03 Exactly. You got things out of me that I would never have offered on cable TV. There's just no way I would've.
1:00:25 Speaker 02 Tell me about Beyonce.
1:00:28 Speaker 03 Despite her repeated denials, Beyonce was paid.
1:00:31 Speaker 02 Who was she paid by?
1:00:33 Speaker 03 The Harris campaign. She was paid tens of thousands of dollars to not sing. Well, no, she refused to sing. She was paid tens of thousands of dollars to give a speech that no one wanted to hear. And Kamala Harris thought all these people came out to Texas to hear her speak. Yeah, right. They came to hear Beyonce sing. And you know what? This is the second time they failed to deliver Beyonce. The first time was at the DNC. They promised that Beyonce would perform. Beyonce did not perform. Um, so that was let down number one. Let down number two.
1:01:09 Speaker 03 They went to Texas to prop up this candidate who could never beat Ted Cruz, Colin Alred. And they promised, they told NBC News that Beyonce would perform. Beyonce came out and gave this speech, this boring ass speech, and just left without performing. And then Kamala Harris got booed. She got drowned in booze. Um, because people didn't really care what she had to say. They were there to hear Queen B. Um, so that was number one. Beyonce was paid, show up. Cardi B was paid. Okay? Cardi B, who famously said she wasn't paid, her production company was paid to show up. Katy Perry was paid. Christina Aguilera was paid.
1:01:54 Speaker 03 These people were all paid. And Oprah wasn't paid a million. She was paid two million. Okay, let's be very clear.
1:02:01 Speaker 02 Two million?
1:02:01 Speaker 03 Two million dollars to Harpo Productions. Who owns Harpo Productions? Flip Harpo backwards, it spells out Oprah. It's Oprah's production company, was paid two million dollars to put on that town hall.
1:02:17 Speaker 03 In which, um, Meryl Streep calls her Mrs. Madame President. It was a love fest for Kamala Harris. Um, so Oprah was paid two million and who else? Al Sharpton was paid half a million dollars moments before he interviewed her, okay? An MSNBC anchor, Al Sharpton was paid money. A so-called journalist was paid money moments before he interviewed the Vice President. People like Roland Martin, who are attacking me now. He was paid three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to interview Kamala. Advertising costs, okay? Advertising costs, wink, wink. To interview Kamala Harris.
1:03:01 Speaker 03 Um, the Pennsylvania Democratic Party was paid twenty-five million dollars after the chair raised hell for not being paid enough street money. Street money is just a boondoggle. It's a cauldron of corruption. They just hand out money to board leaders. And so this is how donor money was spent. Donor money was spent was, donor money was basically set on fire for five-star hotels, um, luxury trips, private, you know, charter planes, just this ridiculous stuff. And a lot of these donors are hard-working Americans. I had people giving anywhere from ten to fifteen dollars, all the way to a million dollars.
1:03:45 Speaker 03 All of them worked hard for their money. If, and if they knew that their money was spent this way, they never would have given.
1:03:54 Speaker 02 You know, there's a lot of, uh, corruption coming out right now about USAID. Did they fund any of this campaign?
1:04:02 Speaker 03 I don't think they funded any of the Harris campaign, but you know, the Democrats are so pissed off and freaking out about USAID because that is, Trump got it. He hit it on the nail. That's where the corruption is. And we need to look into what happened with that missing Ukraine money. All those billions that were supposed to go over there and Zelensky said he never got it. What the hell happened to that money? Why are we funding transgender operas around the world? Why? Why are we funding DEI programs not only here at home, but across the globe? Someone's got to answer for it. And you can tell that we hit on the right, we hit the target by how angry they are.
1:04:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, man, I don't think there, I mean, what's it gonna take for the Democrat Party to to turn things around?
1:04:54 Speaker 03 Um, they have someone who wants to abolish the Second Amendment and ICE and who wants to defund the police running the party now, so I don't think they're gonna be out of the woods for the next ten to ten years. I think it's gonna be golden era for conservatives.
1:05:12 Speaker 02 I think they're gonna have to be honest with the American people and um, it meant a lot of faults and it's gonna take somebody really tough to turn that around, but.
1:05:22 Speaker 03 I don't see anyone on the horizon, do you? And I went down the list and I can, I can tell you why all of the people they have. One last thing I'll say, Obama, at this point in two thousand four, two thousand eight, everyone knew that Obama's gonna run for president because he had given that famous DNC speech in two thousand four. Now, a- and at this time in the cycle, there's no one of that stature, of that talent on the Democratic side, right? They just have no one waiting in the wings of that caliber.
1:05:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, it seems like all the moderates have switched. Before we, one, one other question, you know, we were talking, I brought up Biden's doctors and how they said that he's-
1:05:59 Speaker 03 Kevin O'Connor.
1:06:00 Speaker 02 What's his name?
1:06:00 Speaker 03 Kevin O'Connor.
1:06:01 Speaker 02 I've always wondered who it was, but, you know, there's a lot of people that think that he was basically doped up before he would get on TV or get on and give a speech or whatever. Is there any truth to that?
1:06:19 Speaker 03 I only want to tell you things that I saw with, I've seen with my own eyes. Um, I do know that he likely took something for the State of the Union.
1:06:29 Speaker 02 I was wondering, because I was there.
1:06:31 Speaker 03 Oh, really?
1:06:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, I was there for that and uh, he seemed sharp at the beginning and then.
1:06:39 Speaker 03 Hmm. Yeah.
1:06:41 Speaker 02 Kind of went downhill there towards the end.
1:06:44 Speaker 03 Um, like clockwork, all the Democrats are praising him to the high heavens for simply reading off the teleprompter. That's not a high bar to jump over, okay?
1:06:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:06:53 Speaker 03 Anyone can, anyone who has rudimentary understanding of English can read off a screen.
1:06:57 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:06:58 Speaker 03 It didn't require any impromptu thinking on his part.
1:07:01 Speaker 02 So any rumors of, I mean, you were in there. Were there any rumors of him getting doped up, Adderall?
1:07:08 Speaker 03 Oh, there were plenty of rumors, but I'm here to give you the facts. Like, everything I've said to you so far has been like proven, or I've seen it with my own two eyes. I've never seen him get doped up, but there were plenty of rumors that he would get doped up before every major event. Like, for example, after the debate, he went to North Carolina. It was basically, um, it was a life or death moment for his campaign. He had to prove that he was still ready to continue his race. The rumor was that he took something, you know, the night after the debate. He basically self, just self-destructed before the eyes of the whole world. So the next day, he had to prove that he could still keep going. And that's what we were told, that he got some sort of injection or whatever before
1:07:53 Speaker 03 he went onstage on, in North Carolina. But I wasn't there to see that, and I don't wanna, I can't say for sure, but, um...
1:08:01 Speaker 02 So even within the Democratic crowd, they knew something was going on?
1:08:06 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, absolutely, because it was night and day. His energy level, he would be like Pee-wee Herman in one moment, and then just be like Muhammad Gandhi the next, you know, like, it would just, it would just be night and day. His energy level, the delta between the two was just really significant. Um, yeah, it just, for example, the previous night, he was like, "We finally beat Medicare." And the next day, he was like hollering onstage. It's like two different people.
1:08:36 Speaker 02 Wow, wow. So, let's move into...
1:08:42 Speaker 02 Who was running, who was running the presidency for the last four years? A lot of people say it was Obama's third term. There's rumors of, you know, and these aren't even, these are friends of mine that are moderate Democrats say that they thought it was Elizabeth Warren running it. They thought it was Bernie Sanders running it. But I think the general consensus, I think if you asked, you know, the majority of the population, they think it was Obama's third term.
1:09:12 Speaker 03 It was for sure Obama's third term. I don't think that's even a question. I don't think anyone, it definitely was. And that's why you saw Obama fighting for his dear life. Why was he fighting so hard in the fall? Because he was fighting for his fourth term. He was fighting for his own legacy. The relationship between Obama and Biden is most reminiscent of that between LBJ and JFK. JFK had little respect for Lyndon B. Johnson, but he had him, he picked him anyway because he wanted to win the South. He wanted to win Texas. But he had very little respect for LBJ's intellect. JFK was surrounded by his Harvard brain trust. And he had immense disdain for LBJ's Texas Hill country vibe.
1:09:54 Speaker 03 And that was the same attitude that Obama had towards Biden. Obama thought that Biden would eventually fuck everything up. And that's eventually actually what happened. So, um, but also he didn't have much faith in Kamala Harris. Before she ascended to the top role, he was vetting people like Mark Kelly and Andy Beshear. Most people, most party chieftains didn't have Kamala Harris as their number one choice. But in the party of DEI, you can't skip a black woman. The optics would have been terrible.
1:10:33 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So who, who was running it? Who are the names?
1:10:37 Speaker 03 Steve Rochetti, his senior advisor, Anita Dunn, Mike Donilon, Ron Klain, Jeff Zients, Bob Bauer, his personal lawyer, who's actually his personal lawyer, who actually leased a book, basically grifting off his relationship with the Bidens. I'm gonna get in so much trouble for saying all this. Please give me credit for. But these are the people who ran our country for the last four years.
1:11:03 Speaker 02 So let's go through each name for, for, for all of the audience. Not everybody is as tuned in with who's who in, in the political world.
1:11:12 Speaker 03 As a general overview, these are the people who made a living off of their connection with Biden. It's like, they were leeching off the Biden name for decades and all of them realized that they would never work for another president, so they had to ride the gravy train all the way through, you know?
1:11:32 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:11:33 Speaker 03 They would ride it to the very end. And that's why all of them refused, refused to concede the truth, which is that Biden is unfit and he would have been comatose by the time he was 86.
1:11:45 Speaker 02 Who's the first name you mentioned?
1:11:47 Speaker 03 Steve Rochetti, the same guy who put his own kid at the treasury.
1:11:51 Speaker 02 Who is he? What's his position?
1:11:52 Speaker 03 His most senior, White House senior advisor. Like, all of them are White House counselor or White House senior advisor. And they are the gatekeepers of the president.
1:12:03 Speaker 02 Who's the next name?
1:12:04 Speaker 03 Mike Donilon, the same guy who's feeding, I'm just gonna say it like it is, feeding Biden fake numbers telling him that he would win, he would beat Trump. Like, are you, like, seriously, are you kidding me? And, um, the truth of the matter is, by the time Biden was gonna drop out, he was on track to lose Electoral College by 400 votes. Trump was on track to get 400 Electoral College votes. Not a typo, I'm not misspeaking, 400 Electoral votes by the time he dropped out. And Mike Donilon, his pollster, whom he, I mean, they go back decades. By the way, the only, like, the major qualification for all these folks
1:12:48 Speaker 03 is that they know Biden really well. These aren't like PhDs or like rocket scientists or anything like that. It's just because of loyalty. And they've stayed with him for a number of years. So Mike Donilon, Nancy Pelosi actually called him out.
1:13:04 Speaker 03 And she said, show me the numbers, Mike, like, show me where you're getting these numbers that show that Biden can still beat Trump. And Donilon wasn't able to deliver. No such numbers exist.
1:13:17 Speaker 02 Who's the next name?
1:13:19 Speaker 03 Who did I say? Anita Dunn. I actually have a soft spot for Anita Dunn. Because she got iced out of the Biden circle in July, August of this past year, because she dared to say, maybe it's a good idea for the president to shy away from his convicted felon of a son. Because the optics aren't great.
1:13:39 Speaker 02 Why do you have a soft spot for somebody who's running the country in the shadows to the ground?
1:13:45 Speaker 03 Because she dared to speak up. She's the only one who did.
1:13:51 Speaker 03 She's the only one who dared to utter criticism.
1:13:54 Speaker 02 But we went four years.
1:13:56 Speaker 03 I know, but she's the only one who did anything a little bit different, you know? And she got, she got exiled, she got kicked out of the White House.
1:14:04 Speaker 02 When?
1:14:04 Speaker 03 So she's July.
1:14:08 Speaker 03 So she got booted out, and then not only her, her husband got booted out. Her husband, Bob Bauer, was Biden's personal attorney. So after Anita, oh, so I should also mention that after the debate, Hunter basically commandeered the White House. He sat in on all the White House top-level meetings. You had a former cocaine addict sitting in on the most sensitive meetings of the most consequential and important government in world history. Does that sit right with you?
1:14:42 Speaker 02 No.
1:14:42 Speaker 03 Without security clearance, mind you, no security clearance. That's who was basically running the show. So Hunter basically battened down the hatches after the debate to make sure that his father would only receive intel that he pre-approved. And so Anita Dunn got exiled around this time, along with her husband. Her husband was playing Trump in the debate prep. Von Klain was disgraced after the debate blew up. And then Jeff Zients, the person who's worth like hundreds of millions of dollars, the chief of staff.
1:15:19 Speaker 03 I should mention that the weekend that Biden made the decision to drop out, he only told two people in that circle, and that's Jeff. Uh, I'm sorry, that's Steve Buscetti and Mike. He didn't tell Anita because I was on a call with Anita that morning, and she had no idea it was gonna happen. It completely caught her off guard. So by that time, they were already easing her out of the circle.
1:15:42 Speaker 02 Is there any, did we cover all the names?
1:15:45 Speaker 03 Um, did we?
1:15:51 Speaker 03 Jill Biden?
1:15:52 Speaker 02 Jill Biden.
1:15:53 Speaker 03 She, she was like president. She was president. I was with, um, Joe and Jill the, the night of the debate. I was at their VIP debate watch party. I slept all the way to Atlanta, Georgia for that, to show my support. Oh, my gosh, Sean, I, you wouldn't believe it. Um, so that night, I was with, I have the pictures too. I was with Joe. And so Jill takes Joe by the hand. The names are so similar, I'm sorry. Jill takes Joe by the hand on stage and she's like, Joe, you knew all the facts. You answered all the questions. And you know that hand gesture that she does? And I'm thinking, you're treating him like a first grader. You know, like just because he,
1:16:38 Speaker 03 you know, like you shouldn't applaud him for doing the basics. Um, and you could just tell that she was fighting for dear life to hold on to the vestige of power. And just a few days later, she was on the cover of Vogue. So the whole thing was a Jill Biden show.
1:16:56 Speaker 03 Um, she was not as authentic as Joe. I, I wanna say. I think as Joe got older, he,
1:17:05 Speaker 03 maybe you think I'm naive in saying this, but I'm not even sure if he remembers all of the corruption that he engaged in.
1:17:11 Speaker 02 But it doesn't surprise me.
1:17:13 Speaker 03 Like, I don't think he, I don't think he had a full understanding of what was going on.
1:17:16 Speaker 02 I don't think anybody would argue that.
1:17:18 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:17:19 Speaker 02 Um, and so when we say, was this Obama's third term? How was he connected with these people?
1:17:29 Speaker 03 Oh, Jen O'Malley Dillon is an Obama vet. She ended up, she became the Deputy White House Chief of Staff. And she ended up running Kamala Harris's campaign because she gave Kamala an ultimatum saying, "The buck doesn't stop with me, I'm out of here." Because Kamala Harris has a history of putting her family in charge. People like Maya Harris, Mina Harris, and Tony West, the chief legal officer of Uber. When you put your family in charge, things, unless you're like Bobby Kennedy, like the original Kennedys, probably doesn't end well. And her 2019 campaign was a disaster. She was polling at 1%, she was a sitting US Senator.
1:18:12 Speaker 03 She didn't even make it to Iowa. That's how bad it was. And so Jen O'Malley Dillon was Obama loyalist. Her primary loyalty was to Obama, and she gave Kamala Harris that ultimatum. And then you had people like David Plouffe. So they helicoptered in Obama's people. They were running Kamala Harris's 2024 campaign like Obama's 2008 campaign. But the world has shifted since then.
1:18:44 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. And so would all these people congregate together and come up with the plan? I mean, the border, the Afghanistan withdrawal, the DEI, the LGBTQ.
1:18:57 Speaker 03 Well, you gotta keep in mind that a lot of these people hated each other. So when Harris ascended to the top, she pushed Donnellin out. Okay? And Anita Dunn was never known to be, I'm trying to be euphemistic, was never known to be a fan of Kamala Harris's. The Biden White House and the Harris naval, the Harris office are two very distinct entities. They hated each other. Their staffers were constantly at war. And so these are two very distinct entities.
1:19:29 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:19:30 Speaker 03 And their interests often collided.
1:19:34 Speaker 03 Like, right now Vance and Trump, they're like, there's no daylight between the two of them. They're rolling a concert. That's not what happened at all. That's not what, that wasn't the dynamic between Harris and Biden. From the get-go, things were rocky.
1:19:49 Speaker 02 So where did, I mean, I guess, where did the agenda come from then? Did it come from Obama through these people?
1:19:58 Speaker 03 I think that, that's true. Also, it came from unelected inexperienced, the twenty, thirty-year-olds that I was referencing earlier. People, people that we, none of us ever elected, people whose names you would never recognize, imposing their own vision of America onto everyone else. There was a huge LGBTQI, I'm losing track of the letters, LGBTQIA+ contingency in the White House,
1:20:29 Speaker 03 who sought to impose their own vision of wokeness onto the rest of us. And so you had the pride flags on the, on the storied pillars of the White House.
1:20:41 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. Yeah. And, man, this is crazy.
1:20:48 Speaker 03 Like, pride became their religion, you know? Um, there's nothing wrong, I mean...
1:20:55 Speaker 02 What about all the executive orders? Who was writing those up?
1:20:58 Speaker 03 His senior advisors.
1:21:00 Speaker 02 So they were just, all these different people that weren't congregating with each other? There was no, like, collective agenda?
1:21:06 Speaker 03 There was this one time-
1:21:07 Speaker 02 They were all out for themselves.
1:21:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, exactly. There was this one time, he signed an executive order and someone in the crowd was asking him about it the next day, and he had, he would have no idea what they were talking about. So it's just-
1:21:24 Speaker 03 He just had immense trust in his senior staff to execute his mission.
1:21:32 Speaker 02 And what was he doing this whole time? I mean, he wasn't doing press conferences. Nobody had ever heard from him.
1:21:38 Speaker 03 He's most active.
1:21:39 Speaker 02 Going to bed at 8:00 P. M.
1:21:40 Speaker 03 That's late. Well, he usually checks out by four. So you're giving him extra credit. Eight is actually really ambitious for him. He's most active between 10 to four, so the White House staff knows not tries not to schedule anything outside of those hours. That's why he,
1:21:59 Speaker 03 you know, face planted so hard at the debate, which is so late and out of his window of activity. He wasn't used to that. And all of us have, we've all had cold. We've all had colds, right? No cold would result in that sort of debate performance. We don't lose our minds when we have a cold. That's no excuse.
1:22:21 Speaker 02 So what's his daily routine? I mean, he's not writing the executive orders. He doesn't even really know what's going on.
1:22:29 Speaker 03 He watches Morning Joe.
1:22:31 Speaker 02 He watches Morning Joe.
1:22:32 Speaker 03 He watches Morning Joe.
1:22:34 Speaker 02 And then what?
1:22:39 Speaker 02 He just spaces out?
1:22:42 Speaker 03 They don't really hold cabinet meetings. It's like, I think they held one in the past year.
1:22:50 Speaker 03 You know, we're lucky that, we're lucky that disaster didn't strike. You know, well, I mean, disaster did strike multiple times, but we're lucky that something worse didn't happen, you know? We're lucky that another pandemic didn't hit under Biden's watch.
1:23:07 Speaker 02 I think a lot of things hit, you know? Funding terrorism.
1:23:12 Speaker 03 Ukraine, yeah, you're right.
1:23:14 Speaker 02 Ukraine. The border.
1:23:18 Speaker 03 The border was an unforgivable mistake, unforgivable.
1:23:22 Speaker 02 Was it intentional?
1:23:24 Speaker 03 Absolutely, I think it was intentional, absolutely, because we have members of Congress in the Democratic Party who love migrants, who think that we should offer asylum to basically anyone who asks for it. These people, and I don't know why it's so controversial for people to acknowledge that, yes, that, yes, Democrats want these people to be potential, potentially new voters. I think that's a logical conclusion. Why is that controversial to say?
1:23:50 Speaker 02 Is there a?
1:23:52 Speaker 03 Like, they would never admit that. But, I mean, like, the DNC itself would never admit that, but there are a lot of, like, members of Congress who's, who openly are vouching for that.
1:24:03 Speaker 02 Was that the agenda? I mean, was that the, was that the, was that the talk behind the scenes? We've got to get these people in to turn them into voters?
1:24:11 Speaker 03 No, because the people at the DNC, at least, like, the top donors, they're kind of like limousine liberals. It's a different vibe. It's different from the activist level.
1:24:20 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:24:21 Speaker 03 There are different gradations. Like, the people that I, the people that, I'm sorry if this sounds like leaders or anything, but like, when I donor events, they're like venture capitalists, they're Silicon Valley, um, you know, they're investment bankers. They're not thinking that way. But the activists, for sure. They want to open the borders. They don't want national borders. They don't have, they don't give a damn about national sovereignty. Um, they care more about, like, people in Mexico than they do about American children. And why is it so controversial to, to want, to want America first? Why is it bad to say that? I don't understand. I love this country so much.
1:25:03 Speaker 03 You know, I'm so grateful to be here. In China, I would have been arrested already. So why is it so bad to want to put my country first? To take care of our people first? I don't want to be funding transgender operas in overseas.
1:25:22 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:25:23 Speaker 03 Why is it too much to ask?
1:25:26 Speaker 02 I, I, I can't answer that. I don't know. Did he have any senators or congressmen in his era?
1:25:37 Speaker 03 He's very close with a guy named Chris Coons, a senator out of Delaware, actually. Um, yeah. Chris Coons is an interesting fellow.
1:25:49 Speaker 02 So very influential to Biden?
1:25:51 Speaker 03 Very, very influential. I think he was the single most influential senator, um, during the Biden years. Um, who else? Chris Coons, it's the Delaware thing. And Ted Kaufman, who became senator when Biden became vice president, was also very close to Biden. Um, he was also close to the author John Meacham.
1:26:16 Speaker 03 John Meacham obviously was aware of Biden's cognitive decline, yet he still went on cable TV espousing the opposite. You had the entire, these people who supposedly, I'm gonna get in so much trouble for saying this, but Sean, it's the truth. These people who supposedly, you know, they embody the greatest pinnacle of American media and American journalism. All of them, almost without an exception, lied to the American people. Kamala Harris lied to the American people when she vouched for Biden's cognitive fitness. When all of them knew that he wasn't fit.
1:27:00 Speaker 02 And so, let's go back to, I'm trying to figure out how Obama was running the show, because you pretty much said, yes, it was Obama's third term.
1:27:09 Speaker 03 And he's the one who pushed Biden out, too.
1:27:12 Speaker 02 But we're also saying that all of the people that you just mentioned were not on the same page. It was very argumentative. They didn't like each other. And so if he was influencing all of them, it seems like they would have been on the same page.
1:27:28 Speaker 03 I should also mention that these people are Obama people, too. They worked for him. Like Anita Dunn was originally an Obama person. Jen O'Malley Dillon was an Obama person. So there's tremendous overlap, too. But Obama was definitely, he continued to pull the strings up until the very end. He was the one who orchestrated the Clooney letter. Now, George Clooney is angry at Obama for getting him involved in politics, because Clooney is getting a lot of pushback for everything.
1:28:01 Speaker 02 Poor Clooney.
1:28:02 Speaker 03 And so Obama is the reason why donors even gave. Like, let's be honest, Biden is no draw. I hosted Biden myself on May 1st at the Mayflower in DC. I had to beg people. Sean, it got to the point where I was sending texts in like capital letters saying, "Please give emoji face." Like, please. Because my name was on the flyer, like... I I had to deliver, you know? It was hard, it was so hard to make this out because people, you can't lie to the American people. You know, on the whole, the wisdom of the crowds. The American people knew, you could see it, that this guy wasn't fit. It was like pulling teeth to get people to give.
1:28:47 Speaker 03 So finally, I was able to raise just a million dollars, which is far lower than I'm, than I usually do. But um, it's just.
1:28:57 Speaker 02 So were these his agendas, were these Obama's agendas that we saw roll out over the past four years? That's what I'm asking, because, you know, I am a realist and I just want to know the truth. And so, you know, like, like I had mentioned, like, a lot of people think that it was Obama's third term. But then we have this, then we have you saying that these people weren't getting along.
1:29:18 Speaker 03 But that's not mutually exclusive.
1:29:20 Speaker 02 If it was orchestrated, then from him, then it seems like these people will be getting along. And do you see what I'm saying?
1:29:29 Speaker 03 It it's not mutually exclusive because they didn't get along because they were all vying for the most power.
1:29:34 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
1:29:35 Speaker 03 Like amongst themselves, they were vying for ascendancy amongst themselves, but they were still executing his agenda. Like they, Obama is what continues to be more forceful figure than Biden is. Um, and he was the draw at fundraising events. He, he was the reason why people were showing up. Biden is no draw, okay? So I was a co-host for an event that George Clooney and Julia Roberts hosted in Hollywood in June. People came for Obama and I, I don't know, the press ever mentioned this, but that night, Obama himself was shocked to see Biden's decline, you could tell.
1:30:18 Speaker 03 And he was like holding Biden by the hand and shepherding him off the stage. Because Biden didn't know to leave the stage after the event was over. And you could just tell people in the crowd. Like, looking at each other, they're saying, like, what's going on? But everyone was playing their part in an emperor has no clothes situation. Because in their mind, the alternative was so dire, and that is Trump. And have you seen The Wire? You know that phrase, you come at the king, you better not miss?
1:30:51 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:30:52 Speaker 03 If you can't push Biden aside, and you fail that attempt, the only person who benefits is Trump. So that was their logic.
1:31:00 Speaker 02 Okay. So were they, why are they so fearful of Trump? Are they worried that, I mean, we saw these executive orders come out. Does it have to do with protecting themselves? You know, we have the Epstein stuff that's hopefully gonna come out if Cash Patel gets in. Um, we have the Diddy stuff going on.
1:31:20 Speaker 03 They think that Trump was on that list.
1:31:22 Speaker 02 They think that Trump was on that list?
1:31:23 Speaker 03 They think, they think, they think, they pretend to hate Trump, but it's just a gag. It's just a show, it's a charade. You saw Obama yucking it up with him at someone's funeral, at Jimmy Carter's funeral. Democrats pretend to hate Trump. At the end of the day, they crave him. They're obsessed with him. They need him for their fundraising machine. They need him for their raison d'etre. They, without Trump, they would have no rudder. They would be even worse off than they are. Trump is their lodestar. It's their reason for existence. They're obsessed with the man.
1:32:01 Speaker 02 So they're not trying to protect themselves?
1:32:03 Speaker 03 They have no other reason to exist at this point. Because their party is just, it's just, their party, basically, it's in shambles.
1:32:14 Speaker 02 Let's talk about the executive orders that came out at the very end.
1:32:17 Speaker 03 Terrible, terrible.
1:32:19 Speaker 02 So who orchestrated that? I mean, who was on there? It was Fauci was on there.
1:32:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:32:24 Speaker 02 There was, Milley was on there. There was the J six committee was on there. Who am I missing anybody?
1:32:31 Speaker 03 His entire family?
1:32:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, that was the first run. That was what the night before and then what? What? It was like an hour or two before.
1:32:38 Speaker 03 And by the way.
1:32:38 Speaker 02 It was his entire family.
1:32:39 Speaker 03 Exactly. So I called, I, I predicted that on, I, I told people months ago that this would happen, by the way. I went on Times Radio and I said this and it happened exactly the way I said it would. He would pardon his entire family. James, Valerie, Biden Owens, everybody. Because all of them were involved in Hunter's business. And James Biden was involved in the failed hospital network situation.
1:33:06 Speaker 03 And I want people to know that extends all the way back to 2014. The start of the Burisma situation in Ukraine. So the whole thing is sprawling. The entire family enterprise was influence peddling. Like everyone was in on it essentially except Ashley. She's out there doing her own thing. I actually personally really like Ashley. I know her, you know, she's my fellow Philadelphian. She's not really involved in anything. She's recovering from, you know, she's a recovering addict. She's doing, she's just doing her own thing. But everyone else is involved.
1:33:40 Speaker 02 So who orchestrated? Let's talk about the families first. Who, did that come from Jill?
1:33:45 Speaker 03 It's an influence to the intelligence of the American people. That Joe Biden pretends that he had nothing to do with it. Joe Biden had everything to do with it. Flying his son on Air Force Two to China. Like, do you think we're stupid? Like, seriously? Really?
1:34:04 Speaker 03 If you gave me a million dollars, I wouldn't even go back to China.
1:34:10 Speaker 02 But did he know? You know, did he understand? Did Joe Biden know what was going on?
1:34:16 Speaker 03 Absolutely, he knew. Absolutely, he knew.
1:34:22 Speaker 03 And he used his addict of a son as his bad man.
1:34:27 Speaker 02 So he was with it enough to orchestrate?
1:34:29 Speaker 03 Because this started, this started when he was Vice President in 2014, like the 2010s. He was definitely with it then. This was the year, this was the year when he was debating Paul Ryan. He did a good job. Didn't he do a stand-up job with Paul Ryan? You know that debate?
1:34:44 Speaker 02 I don't remember that debate.
1:34:46 Speaker 03 Actually, he did a decent job in 2012. He had control of his faculties then. When I first met him in 2016, he was fine too.
1:34:57 Speaker 02 What about Fauci?
1:35:00 Speaker 03 Oh, man.
1:35:04 Speaker 03 I love how Fauci is like, I need taxpayers' paid security. And it turns out to be like this valet, like whole shebang, like the whole operation and like limousine and everything. Like Fauci, you made enough on your own. You can pay for your own security. Why are you charging us? How much is he charging us a day?
1:35:24 Speaker 02 Well, what I'm asking is, did Fauci get to them and did these people ask for the pardons?
1:35:29 Speaker 03 Oh, I don't know what Fauci. I'm not in touch with that. I can't speak to what Fauci did. But I do know that he was under tremendous, Biden was under tremendous pressure to pardon, like everybody.
1:35:40 Speaker 02 Who was pressuring him?
1:35:41 Speaker 03 The members of Congress, especially you had the Squad. People like Ayanna Pressley, AOC, begging Biden to pardon like death row murderers and letting out all the cretins of the world. It's just like, this is just, I live in Philadelphia, okay, where crime is seriously rampant. This is what happens when you have liberals running this, running the show. You have criminals on the streets and crime is not being prosecuted.
1:36:15 Speaker 03 Um, and we're all about receipts, right? And I, um, one of the reasons why I actually turned conservative.
1:36:26 Speaker 03 Sean, I was just standing on the curb and I got pelted by rocks.
1:36:36 Speaker 03 And I started bleeding and I was bruised. And I couldn't say a single thing because I'm Asian.
1:36:45 Speaker 03 And the people perpetrating the crime were Black Americans. And I would be labeled as a racist if I said anything.
1:36:52 Speaker 02 That's why you turned Republican?
1:36:54 Speaker 03 I mean, it wasn't like I didn't like decide the next day I would be Republican. But just so you know, I, I do want to pull up that, um.
1:37:08 Speaker 03 Um, it just, the Republican Party is the only group of people who are willing to admit that there's black on Asian crime.
1:37:19 Speaker 03 You're not allowed to say that as a Democrat.
1:37:23 Speaker 03 Because in the Democratic Party, they would label me, the victim, as a person at fault and the perpetrator as
1:37:35 Speaker 03 the perpetrator as the victim of some imagined grievance, someone in need of reparation or whatever. And all I did was stand on the curb. Actually, I was so stunned, I couldn't even react. And it wasn't the first time. It happened to me two times afterwards. There was nothing I can do. I filed a police report, but there's nothing I can do.
1:38:06 Speaker 03 And just so you know that this happened.
1:38:08 Speaker 02 What's this?
1:38:09 Speaker 03 Um, I sent it to my therapist, actually, right after it happened.
1:38:14 Speaker 02 This is from you. "Hi Lauren, I was just walking to get my dinner. A group of teenagers started pelting rocks at my head. I am now bruised and crying. Do you have any thoughts on how to move past this? Thanks so much. Hope you're well. Please feel free to respond when you're back in the office. No need to rush, just needed to send this as this just happened and I'm shaken. A million thank yous."
1:38:38 Speaker 03 Um, and so this is just randomly, this just happened to me, just um, standing on the street in the middle of Philadelphia. And it's a liberal ones, it's a Democratic-run city. And this is what happens when you have a George Soros-funded prosecutor
1:38:58 Speaker 03 governing our city.
1:38:59 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. Yeah.
1:39:01 Speaker 03 They've done so much damage. The Soros prosecutors, not only in my city, but San Francisco, Los Angeles, across the country.
1:39:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, and they defund the police movement. I mean, what are they gonna do? You know? What are they gonna do? They have nobody to back them.
1:39:16 Speaker 03 And now the person who wanted to defund the police is running the DNC. So, yeah, things are going well.
1:39:23 Speaker 02 Genius move.
1:39:25 Speaker 03 Exactly.
1:39:26 Speaker 02 So, is that, is that, I mean, what other values?
1:39:31 Speaker 02 Or, or, I mean, is it, is there anything else? I mean, just looking at it from a, from a different perspective. I mean, you've been demonized, you've been ostracized from the Democratic Party. You've, say, you've lost all of your friends. I mean, are you, are you looking for acceptance in the Republican Party? Because you have nobody? Does that have a play in this?
1:39:59 Speaker 03 The Trump team already reached out to me. I was appointed to the inaugural committee. They, they were incredible. The Chair of the RNC, Casey Crosby, she's incredible. She's treated me with the utmost kindness and graciousness. It's been unbelievable. I want to give a shout out to her because she's treated me with more decency in a day than Jamie Harrison did my entire life. It, it's just, I'm like on a different planet.
1:40:32 Speaker 02 But let's just take all the acceptance and decent people out of it. Let's just talk about, you know, what is it about conservative values that, that draws you into the party?
1:40:44 Speaker 03 I've always been conservative, but I've had to hide it. And I was trying to tell, and I'm on record, even five years ago, you know, I'm on record telling people again and again that I'm a conservative Democrat. I grew up as a Christian conservative. I went to church every Sunday. I went to youth group every Friday. Even today, I read the Bible every night in my battered King James Version of a Bible with the calendar in the back. I, you know, faith is such an important part of my life. It's always been, um, I'm just conservative and also Asian. I can't get away from that.
1:41:27 Speaker 03 We're just a conservative culture, you know, socially conservative, fiscally responsible. I grew up with nothing. My first job was at Wawa, the hoagie shop, making nine dollars an hour.
1:41:43 Speaker 03 You know, my parents had nothing, and we built something magnificent out of it. We've created hundreds of American jobs over the years.
1:41:51 Speaker 02 Do you feel like you've lied to the American people through the concealment of Joe Biden's cognitive decline?
1:41:58 Speaker 03 No, because I tried as soon as I realized in 2022, I started telling the press.
1:42:04 Speaker 02 And so...
1:42:05 Speaker 03 I have a paper trail of that.
1:42:07 Speaker 02 As we kind of close this interview out,
1:42:12 Speaker 02 what do you have to say to members of the Democratic Party who were a big part of that lie, who did not have the courage to speak up or say anything still to this day?
1:42:27 Speaker 03 You failed the American people. Shame on you. Shame on you.
1:42:33 Speaker 03 You had one job to protect the American people, and you failed objectively at it in order to preserve your own position. And it's just something that you can never get... We're never going to let you live it down. And you sought to destroy people like me and others who dared to tell the truth, who dared to buck the party line. Because in this cult, you can't ask any questions. You can't utter any criticisms or any divergence from the party line.
1:43:04 Speaker 03 And because of their lies, the Democratic Party has been discredited for a generation. Like, good fucking luck getting out of this.
1:43:15 Speaker 02 It's going to take a lot of work.
1:43:16 Speaker 03 It's going to take a hell of a lot of work. And it's not just the lie about this. It's the media manipulation of Kamala Harris, who, from the worst and most poorly rated vice president in American history to somehow the second coming of Jesus in a matter of days. Like, did you notice that? Like, we went from being, "Who is she?", to, "Oh, my God, she's like this megastar."
1:43:45 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, I saw it.
1:43:47 Speaker 03 Within days.
1:43:49 Speaker 02 Yeah. Well, Lindy, I really appreciate you coming. And do you have any more aspirations?
1:43:59 Speaker 03 Can I just say, I've watched so many of your interviews, and you are a national treasure. You truly are. You're just really good at this. You are like, I don't know, such... You're some sort of... You have what it takes to get people to really open up and divulge their innermost thoughts. It's a very rare talent. And I'm so glad that you're here. This country is lucky to have you. And I just want to say that the balance of power is shifting away from legacy media and is shifting towards people like you. So please keep going.
1:44:38 Speaker 02 Thank you.
1:44:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:44:38 Speaker 02 I appreciate that. Well, Lindy, best of luck to you.
1:44:42 Speaker 03 Thank you so much.
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