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#347 Pierogi - Shawn Ryan and Scammer Payback Troll Scammers LIVE

Shawn Ryan Show

Hosted by Shawn Ryan

3h 49m
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This episode features a detailed, live-action demonstration of scam-baiting and cyber vigilanteism, with the founder of Scammer Payback explaining how global scam networks operate and infiltrating live overseas call centers. The guest details the mechanics of modern fraud, including caller ID spoofing, remote desktop takeover tools, data broker breaches, and pig-butchering investment scams that siphon hundreds of millions of dollars from vulnerable populations. Throughout the conversation, the guest and host explore the intersection of cybersecurity, spiritual warfare, and personal faith, sharing raw discussions on the toll of public prominence and the pursuit of a disciplined, Christ-centered life.

What makes this episode worth listening to is the rare, real-time intervention captured on audio and video, where the guest accesses a scammer's computer live during the recording to disrupt an active multi-thousand-dollar wire transfer targeting a 78-year-old victim. The discussion moves past abstract statistics to expose the dark operational realities of overseas criminal syndicates, while offering practical cybersecurity hygiene tips and a deeply personal dialogue on finding peace and purpose outside of online fame.

  • Make all elderly relatives' social media profiles private so foreign criminal syndicates cannot scrape personal details or family audio for AI-driven scams. 3:38:09
  • Never save login credentials directly into web browsers where remote access tools can easily harvest stored passwords and banking information. 3:31:01
  • Always hang up the phone immediately if an unknown caller claims there is an urgent financial emergency and demands remote computer access or wire transfers. 3:43:32
  • Opt out of data broker websites using removal services to clear personal information from public databases and reduce targeted scam attempts. 3:39:33

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Chime Bank Promotion

    Host promotes fee‑free banking with Chime, highlighting benefits and sign‑up link.

  2. 1:25
    Shopify Storefront Launch

    Discussion of building a Shopify storefront for the Sean Ryan Show and its benefits.

  3. 3:04
    Guest Introduction: Pierogi

    Host introduces guest Pierogi, discussing mutual connections and background.

  4. 4:07
    Personal Scam Experience

    Host shares a personal anecdote about a chief of staff being scammed and the emotional toll.

  5. 5:29
    Caller ID Spoofing Explained

    Pierogi details how scammers spoof caller IDs and the technology behind it.

  6. 7:48
    Scammer Payback Overview

    Pierogi explains his transition from cybersecurity to scam baiting and the impact of Scammer Payback.

  7. 27:06
    $65 Million Takedown Narrative

    Pierogi recounts the investigation and execution of a major $65 million scam operation.

  8. 38:03
    Global Scam Landscape

    Discussion of international call centers, tactics, and the scale of fraud worldwide.

  9. 51:23
    Scammer Call Centers Exposed

    The hosts discuss how large call centers in India run scams, the tactics used, and the impact on victims.

  10. 53:22
    Government Response and Limits

    They examine U.S. and Indian government actions, the challenges of extradition, and the limited effectiveness of law enforcement.

  11. 1:10:00
    Techniques for Tracking and Stopping Scammers

    Details the tools, remote access methods, and strategies used to infiltrate scammers’ systems and prevent fraud.

  12. 1:14:33
    Commercial Breaks and Sponsor Messages

    Brief interludes featuring product promotions and ad reads that interrupt the main conversation.

  13. 1:30:00
    Sextortion, Pig‑Butchering, and Other Emerging Threats

    Highlights new scam types targeting teens, cryptocurrency investors, and the emotional toll on victims.

  14. 1:33:01
    Deepfakes and AI‑Driven Scams

    Explores how scammers use deepfakes, AI voice synthesis, and social media data to create convincing frauds.

  15. 1:40:00
    Protecting Yourself and Your Family

    Offers practical advice on securing accounts, using two‑factor authentication, and recognizing scam tactics.

  16. 1:42:45
    Scammers Targeting Lonely Facebook Users

    The conversation opens with a discussion about how scammers find victims on social media, highlighting the deceptive nature of online interactions.

  17. 1:44:23
    Loneliness and Digital Disconnection

    The hosts reflect on how the internet creates both connection and isolation, and how trust becomes harder as people age.

  18. 1:45:59
    Managing Fame and Authentic Relationships

    They discuss the challenges of maintaining genuine connections when having millions of followers, and the importance of a small trusted circle.

  19. 1:55:39
    Spiritual Practices: Praying in Tongues and Faith

    The conversation shifts to the host’s spiritual practices, including praying in tongues, and how these practices help him connect with God and find guidance.

  20. 2:04:42
    Practical Steps for Spiritual Discipline

    They discuss concrete practices such as fasting, silent retreats, and limiting social media use to deepen spiritual life and reduce demonic influence.

  21. 2:10:00
    The Role of Community and Support in Spiritual Growth

    The hosts talk about the importance of having a supportive partner and community to help maintain spiritual focus and resist negative influences.

  22. 2:18:52
    Balancing Online Presence with Spiritual Integrity

    They explore how to stay true to one’s faith while navigating the pressures of social media and the temptation to prioritize fame over authenticity.

  23. 2:20:00
    The Intersection of Faith and Science

    The conversation touches on how quantum physics and neuroscience can align with biblical teachings, suggesting a harmony between faith and modern science.

  24. 2:25:00
    Living Out Faith in Everyday Life

    They conclude by emphasizing the need to live out Christian values daily, avoiding lukewarmness, and striving for a life that reflects true devotion.

  25. 2:33:36
    Podcast Intro and Advertisements

    The episode opens with a brief intro and a short advertisement for a mattress brand.

  26. 2:35:29
    Prayers for Humility and Spiritual Renewal

    A detailed prayer for humility is recited, followed by a discussion on renewing the mind through faith.

  27. 2:36:32
    Computer Destruction and Gummy Bear Finale

    The gummy bear attack culminates in the scammer’s computer becoming unusable, showcasing the team’s retaliation.

  28. 2:44:31
    Gummy Bears Attack Setup

    The team sets up a live attack using gummy bears to sabotage the scammer’s computer.

Highlights

  • 5:00

    How Criminals Spoof Trusted Numbersinsight

    The guest explains how scammers use software to spoof caller IDs, making calls appear to come from the FBI, trusted banks like USAA, or even a user's own family members.

  • 28:14

    The Absurd Physical Cash Shipment Scamdata

    The guest reveals a prevalent scheme where elderly victims withdraw tens of thousands of dollars in cash, wrap it in aluminum foil and duct tape, and mail it to vacant properties for criminal couriers.

  • 35:42

    A Multi-Million Dollar Takedownstory

    The guest details a five-year investigation resulting in the arrest of 24 individuals and the recovery of $65 million from a single international scam network.

  • 1:10:43

    Inside Overseas Call Center Operationsinsight

    The guest describes the brutal, slave-like conditions inside thousand-person scam call centers in India and Pakistan, where operators are managed like cartel mules.

  • 1:35:23

    The Mechanics of Pig-Butchering Scamsstrategy

    The guest breaks down pig-butchering scams, where criminals build fake online rapport and fraudulent crypto investment dashboards to steal hundreds of thousands from victims.

  • 3:01:30

    Remotely Destroying a Scammer's PCstory

    The host types a command to execute a virus script that floods an active scammer's monitor in India with gummy bear graphics and completely disables their system live on air.

  • 3:31:29

    Intercepting an Active Wire Transferdata

    The guest infiltrates a scammer's computer terminal live during the show and discovers a pending 25,000 dollar wire transfer being forced from a 78-year-old victim's account.

Quotes

  • “So far this year alone, your team has helped stop more than $200 million in scams.”
    Shawn Ryan · 8:09
  • “We have to like, take things in our own hands. Sometimes, a lot of times.”
    Unnamed speaker · 48:42
  • “I think that there should be a coalition that happens between banks, technology, government, federal and state and local.”
    Unnamed speaker · 48:21
  • “The only time they know it's us is when we destroy their computer at the end and we're very loud.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:07:57
  • “We do everything we can to stop it. I want your audience to know, like, whenever we see something, we don't just like, let it go.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:25:56
  • “They can turn gift cards into crypto in seconds and it's gone.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:29:16
  • “But what happens is these scammers, they.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:42:45
  • “By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God”
    Unnamed speaker · 2:33:45
  • “I want to be real with people, man. Like, I want to, like, like I said, have true connection.”
    Unnamed speaker · 2:40:51
  • “We have a power to speak to demons. Because of our covenant with Jesus, he gave us the exusia and the dunamis to do that.”
    Unnamed speaker · 2:42:14
  • Chime 0:14–1:25
  • Shopify 1:41–2:59
  • Patreon 14:56–15:08
  • Ladder 18:21–19:37
  • BUBS 1:14:51–1:16:33
  • Glacier 1:17:20–1:18:52
  • Shopify 1:38:38–1:39:59
  • Helix 2:43:14–2:44:25
  • Factor 3:09:29–3:11:06
  • HMP House Majority PAC 3:36:03–3:36:11

About this episode

Pierogi is the creator and host of Scammer Payback, one of the largest scam-baiting platforms online. After leaving a career in cybersecurity, he began exposing scam operations by infiltrating their systems, disrupting fraudulent networks, and educating the public on how scammers manipulate victims. Through his videos and investigations, Pierogi and his team have helped stop millions of dollars in fraud while giving viewers a behind-the-scenes look at how modern scam operations work. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: Privacy Isn't Paranoia. It's Protection. Download Glacier - https://theglacierapp.com If you have an iPhone, go to https://ladder.fit/SRS to take a quick quiz, get matched with your coach, and get a free 7-day trial (no credit card needed) plus $10 off your first month if you join. Live better longer with BUBS Naturals. Get 20% OFF on collagen, MCT creamers, and more with code SHAWN at https://bubsnaturals.com/srs Start your free trial at https://shopify.com/srs Go to https://helixsleep.com/SRS for 20% off site wide and enter our show name after checkout so they know we sent you! Head to https://factormeals.com/srs50off and use code srs50off to get 50% off and 1 free breakfast item per box for 1 year, while supplies last until 10/31/2026. See website for more details. Pierogi Links: Website - https://www.scammerpayback.org Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/scammerpayback TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@scammerpayback Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/pierogisp Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/scammerpayback X - https://www.twitter.com/scammerpayback Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Topics

  • Bible
  • crypto
  • Tongues
  • Target
  • YouTube
  • Amazon
  • Prayer
  • Microsoft
  • Bank of America
  • USAA

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