442: KJ Biermann: Sex Crimes, Deeply Disturbing Videos and a Secret Trip

KJ Biermann grew up in front of reality TV cameras as the son of Kim Zolciak and Kroy Biermann, but at just 15 years old, he is now facing seven serious felony charges that have completely changed the way people are looking at the family. As more details emerge about what was happening behind the scenes long before his arrest, there are some seriously unsettling questions about what his parents may have known.. If you’re new here, don’t forget to follow the show for weekly deep dives into the darkest true crime cases! To watch the video version of this episode, head over to youtube.com/@annieelise. .🔎Join Our True Crime Club & Get Exclusive Content & Perks..🎧 Need More to Binge? Listen to both of my weekly true crime series 10 to Life & Serialously with Annie Elise wherever you get your podcasts on the Annie Elise Channel!🍎 Apple Podcasts | Where you can also unlock access to 100+ and growing extra exclusive deep dives.💚 Spotify🔴 YouTube🎙️ All Other Platforms.📸 Follow Annie on Socials Instagram: @_annieeliseTikTok: @_annieeliseSubstack: @annieeliseFacebook: @10toLife.⭐SponsorsBoll & Branch: Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at http://BollAndBranch.com/ae with code ae. SKIMS: Shop SKIMS Cotton and all my favorite pieces at http://SKIMS.com. Chime Financial: Head to http://CHIME. COM/SERIALOUSLY. Ladder: Head to http://ladder.fit/AE, take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan, and use my link to get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, plus $10 off your first month if you join. RO-GLPS: Go to http://ro.co/ae..👗 Shop Annie’s Must-Haves! ShopMY: bit.ly/AnnieElise_ShopMy Amazon: bit.ly/AnnieElise_Amazon.🫵🏻 Get Involved or Recommend a CaseAbout Annie: www.annieelise.comFor Business Inquiries: [email protected].📚 Episode Sources Alpharetta Police Department | Atlanta Falcons | Bravo TV | Casual Chaos with Gia Giudice | Cobb County Clerk of Courts | Entertainment Weekly | FindLaw | Fox 5 Atlanta | Fulton County Clerk of Courts | Heir Time With Reginae Carter | Law Commentary | NBC | Page Six | People Magazine | RadarOnline | TMZ | US Weekly | WSB-TV••••••••••••••••••🚨Disclaimers1️⃣ Some links may be affiliate links, they do not cost you anything, but I make a small percentage from the sale. Thank you so much for watching and supporting me. 2️⃣ Sources used to collect this information include various public news sites, interviews, court documents, FB groups dedicated to the case, and various news channel segments. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember my videos are my independent opinion and to always do your own research. 3️⃣ The views and opinions expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. Assumptions made in the analysis are not reflective of the position of any entity other than the creator(s). These views are subject to change, revision, and rethinking at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. We make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the reader’s responsibility to verify their own facts.

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  Trick or treat! No one's home! I see you inside eating a Reese's.

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  Why do people ignore trick-or-treaters? Do they not have treats? Or do they not want to share their Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for Reese's.

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  Kim Zolciak and Kroy Bierman, normal turned upside down. This isn't his first time with sexual battery. Do you want him to be out on bond right now? What would you say to the judge about it? Her 15-year-old son, Kroy Jr., arrested for sexual battery. And while she might be used to having the camera zoomed in on her private affairs, I will tell you right now, nothing could have prepared her for something like this.

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  Hey, true crime besties. Welcome back to an all-new episode of Serial Insane.

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  Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to an all-new episode of Serial Insane with me, your host, Annie Elise. All right, guys, I have no choice, okay? I swear. Normally, we are not ever at a crossroads between pop culture and true crime. There very rarely is an intersection. However, this case I couldn't not talk about. I talked about it briefly in Headline Highlights last week on Thursday. I knew I needed to do the deep dive because so much more information has come out, and it's the case of KJ Bierman. I don't even know where to begin with this. I have been researching this for the last

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  several days, going through court documents, talking with people, going through old archival, and this has got to be one of the more disturbing cases that I have covered in a very long time, especially not only because of the existing current allegations and what's going on and why this whole situation was brought to the forefront, but because of all the background, history, the pattern, the past allegations, the outcries. There's so much that goes into this. So it is one of those episodes where there is going to be a cross-pollination between people who either love pop culture or hate it and the traditional true crime, because

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  this absolutely is a true crime case and is more appalling than a lot of the true crime cases that we talk about. It's just, it's unbelievable. Now, for those of you who are not in the pop culture universe, who don't watch Bravo, or reality TV, or Housewives, or any of that, I'm going to give you the backstory because you may not have any sort of idea at all who KJ Bierman is. And there is a lot of backstory that I believe is very important context to know while getting into this case, and especially when we start going into the patterns, the dynamics, the relationships, and all of that. So KJ Bierman is a 15-year-old

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  boy who is best known as being the son of Kim Zolciak. Kim Zolciak is best known for being a housewife on Bravo. She was on Real Housewives of Atlanta for, gosh, nearly a decade. She also was married to former NFL player Kroy Bierman. And even if you don't watch Housewives, I would imagine you've seen clips of her on social media over the years, whether it's on the couch at one of the Housewives reunions where Nene is yelling her, "Close your legs to married men," or when they say like, "Buy wig, because she wears wigs," or there's one where she's like drinking Pinot Grigio in her car, playing a, I guess it was a CD at the time, or maybe an iPod, I don't know, of a song that she

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  was singing on. "Don't be tardy for the party. Whoa, don't be tardy for the party." She's had like a lot of memorable moments over the last two decades, really, and she got her start by being on Housewives of Atlanta. So she was one of the original castmates, too, and I believe she started in 2008. And this show, it's a reality show, you know, I'm sure you know Real Housewives, you've heard of it, it's on Bravo, and she was on the show for five seasons. During those five seasons, she pursued a music career. She had that song I just sang to you, "Tardy for the Party," in 2009, which became like a mega-viral hit, not because I think people were ever listening to it in a serious way,

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  but more kind of like Luann from Housewives of New York. She has the like, what is it? Chic, c'est la vie. Sabat, or I don't even, whatever. I don't want to lose you if you're not a housewife fan. But my point is that she was getting all this notoriety, all of this fame, all of this attention in 2008, 2009, while she was on this hit show. And then in May 2010, Kim met Kroy. He was playing for the Atlanta Falcons at the time, and the two of them met at a charity event called Dancing with Atlanta Stars. Their first meeting was actually featured on season three of The Housewives of Atlanta 2. And very quickly, they hit it off. They started dating right away. It was like, at first, this romance

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  that I think all of us as viewers were rooting for, it seemed like they were in love, they couldn't keep their hands off each other, they wanted to have so many kids with one another, and it seemed like this all-American, perfect love story. Come to find out, it was a nightmare, just waiting to boil over and like reach a tipping point. And it's also worth mentioning, at the time that they started dating, Kim already had two daughters from past relationships. So then, just three months after meeting, Kim became pregnant with their first child together. And on May 31, 2011, she gave birth to their son, Kroy Jagger KJ Bierman, otherwise known as KJ for short. The two of them later married that

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  year on November 11. Together, they had three more children. Cash Cade was born in 2012, and then twins, Kaia Rose and Kane Ren, were born in 2013. So in total, six children. Kroy also adopted Kim's two older daughters, the ones that she had previously going into the relationship, Brielle and Ariana, officially making them a part of the family as well. So like I said, in the beginning years, it seemed like this was couple goals, family goals, this beautiful blended family, this man who was really young at the time they got married. He was 26 when they got married, and Kim was 33, and he was stepping into this fatherly role, adopting the two older daughters. They were calling him dad. They

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  had all these children of their own together. Again, just this beautiful blended family. And from the outside looking in, seemed perfect. And everybody was captivated by them, so much so that the couple's entire relationship was documented in a spinoff show that Bravo produced called Don't Be Tardy. And it was a spinoff of Housewives of Atlanta, which in this show, it featured Kim, Kroy, their growing family, their daily activities, kind of the crazy circus that went on within their house, Kim always having a solo cup with what appeared to be wine in her confessionals, Kroy going into retirement from his NFL career, Kim's departure from Real Housewives, and just a glimpse into the everyday lives

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  of them as this growing family. And the series really gave viewers an inside look at not only their marriage and their family life, but everything that came with raising their children in the public eye. The show was also very well-received by Bravo fans, and it lasted for eight seasons before ultimately ending in 2020. So think about that. She was on television for 12 years consecutively, multiple shows, her kids also on television, some of them being raised from birth on television, kind of like the Kardashians in a sense, right? Just being exposed to that from a very young age, and especially for the older girls, because they were in their adolescent years when she first came onto reality TV. However,

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  despite how perfect everything looked, in 2023, Kim and Kroy legally separated, and both of them filed for divorce. Now, what has followed since 2023 has been a bitter, ongoing legal battle, very messy, bad body cam footage, drag-out fights, smear campaigns in the press, this estranged couple trading claims over their finances, their assets, their debts, and also the serious financial strain that they were facing. At times, and I don't remember the exact number, but at times, allegations, and I think actually admissions as well, where Kim took Ariana's money, her daughter's money that she made from being on the show, and spent it because they were in so much credit card debt, and

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  because they were trying to keep up their lifestyle. They lived in this huge mansion in Atlanta, designer cars, designer bags, glam every other day, all of these things to where she was using her children's money to bankroll that. Now, in some states, there are laws in place that hopefully curb that or prevent that, but just, I could go on and on and on about the background here, but I just want to give you a sense of who this family was and what their upbringing was like. Very affluent, very much in the limelight, a lot of celebrity, the best events, glamorized, just this cookie-cutter family that people loved and felt was aspirational and everybody wanted to be. And like I said,

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  I could go on and on about that all day long, and what was really going down within that family, and how it was all smoke and mirrors, and how there was financial trouble, cheating, allegations, all sorts of things. But that's not what today's case is about. It's about KJ, and it's about KJ's actions. But I think it's very important that you at least know that background going into it.

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  What was the argument about?

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  Our life! Our life! And it's fucking destroyed!

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  Why is it getting so heated?

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  Because our life is destroyed!

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  What don't you understand? There's no money, there's no house. She wants, we're, we're getting divorced one day and we're not the next. She's fucking other men. What do you want?

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  Just calm down.

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  Calm down, but I don't have a fucking life.

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  I don't have somebody who will fucking listen to me.

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  Calm down.

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  Oh, calm down. You want to live this motherfucker? You wouldn't, you wouldn't have lasted for a year.

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  So despite all of those other legal battles that they've been facing over the last several years, their biggest legal issue has just begun. And that is the one involving 15 year old KJ Bierman. In August of 2026, he was arrested and later indicted by a Fulton County grand jury on seven different felony counts. Counts including aggravated sodomy, aggravated sexual battery, aggravated child molestation, and false imprisonment. And let me just say, for a grand jury to indict you on seven felony counts, there has got to be, in my opinion, a lot of evidence to support that. But if that isn't even disturbing enough, things get even darker.

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  During a September 11th bond hearing, the prosecutors revealed a whole separate allegation involving KJ. And that is what has really brought this case to the front of everybody's screens, going viral everywhere. And I'm going to talk about everything, not only the past allegation that I know some of you are interested in learning more about because I have done the deep dive, but also what has brought him to being in the courtroom in the first place because this girl needs justice as well. Now, trigger warning, because this is incredibly heavy, it is very disturbing to hear about, but investigators had previously found videos on KJ's cellphone that allegedly showed him engaging in sexual activity with a family member who was under the age of 12 years old.

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  Now, obviously, this case is drawing a lot of attention because things are starting to feel very dark, disturbing, but also kind of like Duggar-ish, if you're familiar with that family, the Duggar family. Another family who grew up on reality television, however, was more religious. They were Mormons and as far as I know, I don't think that the Biermans practice any sort of religion, but there was a lot of inappropriate incestual activity between younger family members. That resulted in some of the siblings being sent off to camps, you know, the camps where they try to like pray it out of you or correct you and do all those things. Then some of them being actually charged and convicted and just a mess.

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  So everybody was hearing about these allegations with KJ from this incident that happened back in the spring of 2026 with this other girl who is not a family member. But then while he's facing the court systems for that incident, the bombshell drops of, oh, well, actually, not for nothing, but when we were looking through his phone, we also found videos of him having sex with a family member who was under the age of 12. So immediately hearing that, everybody's alarm started going off, red flags waving everywhere of like, who is the family member? What is going on? Is this related? And there's just so much to get into with that. And like I said, felt very reminiscent of the Duggar family because you now have these incredibly serious allegations that paint a very different picture of the family dynamic

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  and the values within the family that were displayed on TV. Remember, everybody wanted to be this family. Everybody looked up to them. They were going to all the events, they had everything together, they looked like the perfect blended family, Kroy had adopted the girls. And now you're finding out like, oh, wait, getting a little bit of a peek behind the curtain, it's actually very sinister and dark of what was going on inside that house. So as you guys know, when I do these real time cases, what I like to do is I have my notes right here with me. I do a deep dive and walk you through everything that I can possibly find so that you are fully caught up on everything that we know. Not only from the incident itself, the backstory and where it's going. That way I can keep you updated in real time.

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  So with that being said, I want to start with the timeline of events that really took KJ from being this very promising D1 football prospect to now facing a potential minimum of 25 years in prison if convicted as an adult. Now, what first catapulted this whole case into everybody's feed and everybody's, on everybody's radar, is the incident that happened on April 23rd of 2026. Because this is when the first alleged incident with KJ occurred in a family changing area at a Lifetime Fitness Center in Alpharetta, Georgia. And I don't know if everybody has Lifetime gyms. I don't know if they are super chain and common everywhere. We have quite a few of them in California.

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  Obviously, there are some in Georgia as well, but it's these, I would say newer aged gyms where people like to go there as influencers. They have a lot of perks too for adults, daycare centers, juice bars, a rooftop pool at some of them. And they're more of these like, I don't want to say elite, but nice gyms. It's not like your run of the mill, what's the purple one? Planet Fitness? Not that that's shade of Planet Fitness. I love Planet Fitness, but you get what I mean. So according to court documents, the girl told officials that while she was in this coed family changing area leading into the sauna, KJ allegedly continued to sexually assault her despite her saying no. She alleged that he repeatedly tried to pull down her pants, forced oral sex, and

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  digitally penetrated her before she was able to eventually get away. She said KJ then just pulled up his pants and he left. Which think about that. This 15 year old girl is with KJ, who is also 15 years old, thinking that they're friends, they're having fun, they're at the gym together, to where then he allegedly isolates her, traps her, imprisons her under legal standards, false imprisonment, forces himself on her, and takes his fingers, forcing them inside of her when she's saying no. And also then forces allegedly oral sex and just basically his person on her.

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  Now, court documents state that KJ did not scan into the gym that day, although security footage allegedly showed him inside of the gym. The girl, who like I said, was 15 years old at the time, described herself as KJ's girlfriend's best friend. And she said that she didn't tell anyone about the alleged assault immediately, that she was ashamed, that she was embarrassed. And that's not uncommon for even adult women to not confide in somebody about the assault immediately. No less, a 15 year old girl who I would imagine is still grappling with trying to understand what just happened to her. Ironically enough, though, that same day, KJ had commented on his girlfriend's TikTok video saying, "I love you" and putting a heart emoji.

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  Now, his girlfriend, who I'm just going to refer to as the girlfriend so that her name isn't put out there on blast more than it already is, plus she's a minor, she responded saying, "I love you more." Then, the next day, this 15 year old girl was about to leave school to go to Starbucks and she encountered KJ's girlfriend, who also is her best friend. In that moment, she apparently experienced a panic attack and she contacted her family. And the details are a little bit murky, but it appears that's when she confided in her family what had happened to her and what she had experienced. So she was later examined at North Fulton Hospital. And this was one day after the alleged incident on April 24th. Today's episode is sponsored by ZENNI.

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  According to the police report from that day, the exam found no male DNA in her mouth or vagina, which just to be clear, though, the absence of male DNA is something that, yeah, the defense is now emphasizing heavily, but that by itself, it doesn't prove that an assault did or didn't happen. She could have showered, it could have washed away, it could have not been a trace amount. There are a multitude of reasons for why DNA may not have been found a full day later. So, police continued investigating and they first attempted to contact KJ's father, Kroy, Kim's husband, on May 14th. They spoke with him four days later and he said that he would discuss with Kim whether the police could

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  speak with their son, because again, the son is a minor. However, through all of my research, it doesn't appear that at that point or in the months that followed, that they ever spoke with KJ or that there was any sort of conversation with anyone. Maybe that's because their investigation was still ongoing behind the scenes, but the first thing that we see actual record of is three months later, on August 17th, when KJ was arrested. And when he was arrested, he was initially charged with aggravated sodomy and aggravated sexual battery. He was also held without bond at Atlanta's Metro Regional Youth Detention Center. So, it seemed like the whole thing went from zero to 100 pretty

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  quickly. Nobody in the media had really been reporting on KJ's allegations or any of that prior to the arrest as well. I would imagine because it wasn't public knowledge because it's two minors who were involved. So, really, August 17th, when he was arrested, was the first time that anybody really heard about these deeply disturbing allegations and what was going on. And by August 21st of 2026, news of the arrest fully became public and KJ ended up being arraigned before a court judge. However, KJ's attorney, Jason Sheffield, has pushed very strongly back against these allegations, saying in a statement that his client is 100% innocent. He claimed that KJ tried to provide the arresting officer

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  with evidence supporting his innocence, including a past polygraph exam that was conducted by what he described as a respected sex offender polygraph examiner, but that the arresting officer didn't want to hear anything about it. And here's what I find interesting then. There is no paper trail of communications from that, call it three-month period, right? Why did he go get a polygraph test? Was it ever ordered? Did he do that willingly because he knew that these allegations had been filed by this girl? Why would he say he went to a offender polygraph examiner unless he was just trying to give more credibility to his results, I guess, possibly? But where did this whole polygraph come into play?

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  And why did he get it and was it independently done? Did they know he was going to be arrested eventually and so they wanted to have it on hand as some sort of proof to combat the allegations? I don't know. He also claimed that there was evidence of previous false allegations involving this alleged victim, saying, "She has lied about people before, she has made false outcries in the past, she's a liar, it's not true, you know, here's my polygraph to prove it." Which, smearing the alleged victim, that's a tale as old as time, right? How many times have we heard that? And how many times are we going to hear that in the future? His defense attorney had also pointed back to that police report, the one which noted that the investigators found no male DNA in the areas where the

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  girl alleged that she was assaulted. More specifically, on her person or in her person. But again, just because there's not male DNA 24 hours or so after an alleged incident, that doesn't really mean much, at least not to me. So, he called KJ's arrest and detention without bond a, quote, "tragedy," and he emphasized that his client is presumed innocent. He ultimately asked the public not to assume the allegations are true and to respect the privacy of both families while the case moves forward. KJ's mom, Kim Zolciak, also pushed back against these allegations, calling them reckless and deeply troubling, saying that her son categorically denies knowing the girl or engaging in the conduct that

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  she described. Kim also claimed that KJ voluntarily took that polygraph exam regarding the allegations and that he passed it. She also pointed to an exam that, according to her, found no DNA belonging to KJ. She further claimed that they were aware of the similar allegations involving two other people, the false outcries that KJ's defense attorney apparently brought up, and said that those claims raised concerns and that they should be carefully investigated. She stressed that false accusations can have devastating consequences, not only for the person accused, but also for genuine survivors of sexual assault and abuse. Which, she's not wrong in that. False accusations, that is a ripple effect that

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  negatively affects many, many people. And I also understand her wanting to be the mom in all of this, protect her son, say, "There's no credence to any of these allegations, we've supplied the proof in the polygraph that he's not lying, this girl has an alleged history of false reportings, she can't be trusted," and trying to do right by her son. I do get that to a point. But I also have to say, as she was describing in some of her statements that this 15-year-old victim had allegedly lied in the past, she was calling her a woman, being like, "The woman has lied before, the woman this, the woman that." And I'm like, this is a 15-year-old girl. She is not a woman. So, don't try to diminish

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  these allegations by putting woman in there as though this is not a child that this is happening to. I get wanting to protect your son and putting a statement out there as a public person to do just that, but also have a little bit of tact and respect for the alleged victim in all of this as well. Now, in the same breath as her defending KJ and also saying, you know, there can be devastating consequences for false accusations, she also said, "Legitimate allegations should be taken seriously and they should be investigated based on evidence," while emphasizing that no one should publicly be condemned based solely on an accusation alone. Kim concluded by saying that the family was confident that the facts and evidence would establish the truth, and she asked people to let the legal

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  process play out rather than spreading unproven allegations. Which, okay, fair. Now, in the immediate aftermath of everything that was going on, Kim and Kroy were seen together in what appeared to be, in my opinion, a very staged photo shoot, almost as if they were trying to present a united front. A family that is still together through thick and thin, will always have each other's back, and we're standing by our son. Which, honestly, it was kind of surprising considering how incredibly messy their three-year divorce battle has been, and the fact that Kroy is now dating the estranged wife of Kim's boyfriend. Kind of like a Shania Twain split, you know, when they split and then they both started

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  dating each other's spouses, that's what's going on here. Kroy is apparently dating the estranged wife of Kim's new boyfriend. So, now, seeing them seemingly standing together in solidarity definitely raised some eyebrows, especially given everything that has happened between them. Because like I said, I'm not going into the whole backstory of that marriage, but within these last three years and the divorce, there have been restraining orders, TROs, body cam footage of house visits with police, whereas one of them doesn't want the other person taking certain belongings and smear campaigns in the media and just mudslinging to the nth degree. It has been beyond messy. So, now seeing them arm in arm of, "We've got this," while they're also dating each other's partners, in a sense,

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  it's like, what the hell is going on? What in the Jerry Springer is going on here? Now, since the news broke, Kroy, the father, has largely maintained a low profile and also hasn't spoken publicly about the allegations. However, he was recently spotted picking up his other son, Cash, from football practice, appearing very stressed and just like very glued to his phone. And then, just this last week, he was seen at a local church with his new girlfriend. However, Kim, on the other hand, she appears to be carrying on business as usual, life as usual. She was recently seen celebrating her daughter Brielle's bridal shower ahead of her upcoming wedding to a minor league baseball player, which

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  that event took place just days after KJ's first court appearance. But in attendance was Kim, Kim's mom, her other daughters, Ariana and Kaia. And again, this family is very much- The cameras, the glam, the curated photos. Kim particularly, no shade. I use a filter every now and then. She FaceTunes almost every single photo out there, just carefully crafting the perfect image to display to the public. Now, obviously, we can't know what either parent is feeling privately based on these appearances alone and based on these photos alone, but publicly, they certainly seem to be handling the situation in very different ways.

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  Kim, business as usual, glam as usual, croy, visibly stressed and also going to church. So at the time of this happening, KJ's arrest and Kim's statement and the defense attorney's statement, nobody knew that a grand jury was meeting and nobody knew just how bad this was going to get, not only with what the grand jury came back with, but the other layer of allegations that were found on the phone, which, don't worry, I'm going to get into all of that shortly here. But my point is that at the time of the arrest and the statements, there was still some public question as to what happened here. What is the situation? Who's telling the truth? Who's lying? What really happened inside that gym? What's going on?

• 31:00Speaker 00

  Is there any sort of shred of doubt, given that he did pass a polygraph exam? Given that the family is standing by him? Given that there are reportedly false allegations in the past? Again, not verified. This is all reported. So people didn't really know, okay, how serious is this? That's the question that everybody was asking. Well, just when they thought that things couldn't get any worse, they definitely did. Because on September 3rd, 2026, a Fulton County grand jury indicted KJ on those seven felony charges, including aggravated child molestation, aggravated sexual battery, aggravated sodomy,

• 31:40Speaker 00

  false imprisonment, and three counts of sexual battery against a child under 16 years old. And again, for a grand jury to indict you on all of that? I don't care if there was no male DNA retrieved, there surely is plenty of evidence for them to come to that conclusion for seven felony counts. So now, once that bomb was dropped, there wasn't a question, I don't think, in anybody's mind of, oh, this is serious, this is, there's got to be a lot more to this than we are hearing. But then, less than a week later, on September 8th, defense attorneys filed a motion asking to move the case from adult Superior Court to juvenile court, which by doing this, it's

• 32:21Speaker 00

  a strategy because it not only would avoid an adult prison sentence, but it would also keep the proceedings more confidential because both of them are minors and because he wouldn't be being tried as an adult. In the filing, KJ's attorney described him as a 15-year-old high school student in good standing, someone who demonstrated strong academic achievement and regularly participated in extracurricular and community activities. He also said that KJ was an accomplished football player who had received scholarship offers based on his athletic ability. Because like I said, he was like a D1 player, scouts, I guess, were looking at him. He was offered a lot of opportunity, but that also doesn't mean that he's not capable of a crime like this. And that's kind of where I take a lot of issue.

• 33:06Speaker 00

  I get a defense attorney has to put on his defense, but for him to, in his filing, be like, he has a strong academic history, he's a great athlete, he's being scouted, who cares? That has nothing to do with what he is, these allegations are about. How many times have we seen a star athlete, high school or otherwise, behave like this? Brock Turner, there's another Brock that was recently on a baseball team, where they think that their status, their influence, their athletic stardom is a get out of jail free card and that it gives them a pass to do whatever they want, touch whoever they want, and act however they want. So this kind of pisses me off in the filing, that he's trying to cite his academic and

• 33:49Speaker 00

  athletic career as some sort of mark in his innocence or his, you know, or in his, you know, character. He also argued that KJ is, quote, "an adolescent whose development is ongoing." And this was really important to emphasize because the aggravated charges, especially as an adult, those carry a mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years in prison without the possibility of parole. But again, that's if you're convicted as an adult of the aggravated charges. So he's trying to say, he's an adolescent, he's still developing, he's young, don't charge him as an adult. Look, if you're going to do the adult crime, you gotta do the adult time, at least in my opinion.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  So they were pushing back on this hard, yet it was getting darker and darker by the day. But they're trying to get him as a juvenile, not an adult, trying to fight back, having him released on his own recognizance, all of these things. Then, on Friday, September 11th, 2026, after a bond hearing in Fulton County, the judge granted KJ a $200,000 bond. Now, his release conditions required him to stay at his mom's house, attend school virtually, have no cellphone or social media use, wear a GPS ankle monitor, surrender his passport to his attorney, and have no contact with the alleged victim. He also was not allowed to have any contact with any individual under 16 years old, which

• 35:17Speaker 00

  meant that if he stayed with his mom, Kim, he couldn't even be around his siblings. And that kind of perked everybody's ears up a little bit, piquing their interest to be like, why wouldn't he be allowed to other kids? I understand the boundary of he's not to have any contact with his alleged victim, but is it because they just think he's a danger to society? Even his own family? Like, what's going on here? Well, sure enough, during the hearing, the deputy district attorney dropped a major bombshell in the courtroom. She stated that KJ had previously been charged with a serious sexual offense involving a victim under 16 years old. And that is something that had not been previously reported until this hearing. Nobody knew about that.

• 36:00Speaker 00

  Everybody thought that it was this one-off incident with this girl in the gym, which, not to diminish that or make light of that, but nobody knew that there was a history and that there was a pattern here. So this was a huge bombshell. Like, what do you mean? He has a past history with somebody under 16 and that there's another sexual offense that involved another victim? Like, what's going on here? Well, she revealed to the court that investigators had previously found videos on KJ's cellphone that allegedly showed him engaging in sexual conduct with a family member who was under 12 years old at the time. Let that sink in for a moment. They're now dropping this whole other separate allegation of a sexual offense against someone

• 36:45Speaker 00

  under 16, saying even more than that, they found video proof in his cellphone that he was engaging in sexual conduct with a minor under 12 years old who also happens to be a family member. And they didn't say relative, they didn't say distant relative, they didn't say third parent, they said family member. Apparently, investigators found, quote, "multiple encounters on this device." And they alleged that while KJ was filming these interactions, he used predatory and derogatory language toward the victim. Now, what that language is, we don't know. Maybe calling them a bitch, a slut, a this, a that, we don't know.

• 37:26Speaker 00

  But because of that, she said that KJ had been under court supervision since October of 2025, following that earlier case, which she said had first been reported back in 2023. Which we're going to get to the math of all of this in a second, because if you're like me and you're like, wait, so in 2025, the victim was under 12 years old, but it was reported in 2023? That means they were even younger? I'm going to break it down for you in just a moment here. Now, KJ's attorney also spoke to the court, and they described the situation as deeply traumatizing for his client. He said that KJ is a quiet kid, and he asked the judge to release him on $65,000 bond, arguing that Kim could monitor him at home.

• 38:10Speaker 00

  I think he even chalked it up to it at one point, and I have the exact quote in my notes, and I'll get to that in a minute, but saying, oh, it's just bad behavior between middle school-aged kids. Uh, no, I'm sorry. There is no excuse for this type of video to be on his phone and him be engaging in these kind of acts with a family member, no less, on his phone while being under the age of 12, possibly even younger. So as his attorney was fighting for him, being like, well, KJ's also deeply traumatized by this, please release him to Kim, $65,000 bond, the prosecutors were obviously strongly disagreeing, and they told the judge that the victim in the earlier sexual battery and sodomy case had suffered documented physical injuries, and they described the alleged

• 38:55Speaker 00

  incident as predatory. So they asked that KJ's bond be set at $190,000. A statement from the April 23rd victim was also then read out loud in court, with the victim asking the judge to consider her safety before deciding whether to release KJ or not. She said that she had been, quote, "living in fear because of alleged threats that KJ would come after her if he were released." She also said that the situation has also affected her family, with relatives receiving emails and phone calls, and she made it very clear that the possibility of KJ being released was frightening to her. Which, of course, it is. Not only is this your alleged predator and abuser who could potentially be released

• 39:39Speaker 00

  and intimidate you, silence you, do whatever, but it's this very well-known celebrity family who has access, polls, a fan base, all sorts of things to intimidate you, to slander you, to come after you, more resources, even though they are in financial debt, access to resources. It is incredibly intimidating. And I just have to say, this girl is so brave for speaking up and speaking her truth and her allegations against this family that I believe would be very intimidating to go against.

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• 42:45Speaker 00

  Now during all of this, KJ remained emotionless throughout the hearing. While his parents and his 29-year-old sister Brielle sat there in the courtroom gallery, they also dressed like they were going to a funeral. I don't know if that was intentional to try to get the sympathy of the public by wearing all black, but still, head-to-toe glam, felt very curated, very PR, just did not sit right with me. Kim appeared to be, quote, "stone-faced," while Kroy sat in the row in front of them, appearing stressed. So again, behavior that also kind of aligns with their earlier public sightings before all of this came to a head. So the judge was initially expected to make her decision on KJ's release this last Monday.

• 43:27Speaker 00

  However, she did make the ruling after that Friday hearing, meaning that he was granted bond, but because of the financial hardships that Kim and Kroy are facing, they had to figure out how to come up with that higher dollar amount, 200 grand, rather than the 65, which usually you still only need to post 10% to the bail bondsman, but still, that's 20 grand that you would have to come up with versus 6,500. So there's also no confirmation at the time of this recording that he is meeting all of his conditions, that he is being checked in on, and all that goes with that. Now, I know that that was a lot to take in, in and of itself, even independently of everything else we are about to get into. But now that we have gone through all of those case details, I need to start unpacking

• 44:10Speaker 00

  some of the allegations and the speculation that is surrounding everything. And just keep in mind, as we move forward, what we're about to discuss, it is purely speculation at this point. None of these claims have been confirmed. So I'm going to separate what we actually know from the theories that people have been discussing, so that there is no mistake as far as what is speculation being fact. And I want to start with that 2023 incident, the one involving a family member and the videos that were found on KJ's phone. What I can confirm is that KJ had reportedly been under court supervision since October of 2025. This was following the alleged incident involving the unnamed family member, which

• 44:51Speaker 00

  prosecutors said was originally reported back in April of 2023. During that investigation, law enforcement reportedly found the videos on KJ's cell phone that allegedly showed him engaging in sexual activity with a family member under the age of 12. Naturally, a lot of people are now wondering who this family member could be, especially because there appears to be a few hints that have led people to speculate about this person's identity. Some people have pointed to KJ's sister Kaia, while others believe that it could potentially be one of his brothers. Now, none of this has been confirmed, and I want to make that distinction very clear. Prosecutors have only publicly described the person as a family member and a family member under the age of 12.

• 45:36Speaker 00

  That could theoretically mean any relative. However, I will say this, both Kim and Kroy are kind of known from the reality show documenting their lives to be estranged from their families, not speaking with the grandparents anymore, not really any sort of cousins that they're close with, and very much isolated on an island. Now, does that mean that they don't still have contact with some random family here or there? No, certainly not. We don't know everything. But for the last decade, the storyline has very much been that they have cut off all

• 46:16Speaker 00

  of their family and that they only are connected within their own little bubble. So my opinion is that the likelihood is it probably is much closer to home. However, this is where KJ's attorney is pushing back hard on how the prosecutors characterized this prior case. His defense attorney says that although prosecutors described these videos in court, the earlier juvenile case did not result in KJ being adjudicated for statutory rape, sexual intercourse, or a comparable offense. And I want to be very clear with those words. Just because he hasn't been adjudicated for those charges or those offenses does not

• 46:59Speaker 00

  mean that the allegations didn't surface and that there wasn't any truth to the allegations. And again, I'm saying allegations because we don't know for sure one way or another yet, because yes, the truth is, it has not been adjudicated. But that is why his defense attorney is very carefully crafting his language here. Not to say he's never been accused or involved or anything like that, he's saying he's never been adjudicated for them, meaning it has never gone through a trial and he has never been found guilty or not guilty. Further, and this is where I get pretty disgusted, he characterized what happened as inappropriate and crude behavior between middle-school-aged children, which in my opinion, downplays it, waters it down, and diminishes the severity and seriousness of it.

• 47:43Speaker 00

  And this again, is something that we saw with the Duggar case. When there was sibling-on-sibling abuse happening, the parents chalked it up to their kids just exploring, that he just, he's going through puberty, he doesn't know what he's doing, we'll send him away to a camp, a church camp, get treatment, this and that, not realizing that this is not normal behavior. This is not just normal kids kissing behind the school gym or exploring and things. This is someone who allegedly is videoing sexual conduct with a minor while also yelling out predatory and horrific words at this victim. That is not middle-school-aged kids exploring with crude behavior, not at all.

• 48:28Speaker 00

  However, until we actually get our hands on the juvenile petition or the disposition, and believe me, I have been looking for it, we don't know exactly what KJ admitted to, what was adjudicated or not, or what specifically resulted in him being placed under court supervision. It could have been something familial that reached a resolution on its own, it could be something different, we don't know. However, there are very clearly some details that have people looking at the family and trying to figure out who the prosecutors are referring to. And while I am not going to say who that person is without that confirmation or who I even believe that person is, because I believe that this victim should have that autonomy and independence and anonymity, those hints from the public have definitely

• 49:13Speaker 00

  added another disturbing layer to an already very serious case. And I want to just touch on those. Let's start with the age of it all. Age doesn't matter here, because like I mentioned earlier, Kim and Kroy have four biological children together. KJ was born in 2011, Cash was born in 2012, and the twins Kaia and Kane were born in 2013. So if prosecutors are saying that this alleged incident involving a family member was reported in April of 2023, that would include all three of KJ's younger siblings as potential victims in this, who would have been 10 or nine years old at the time. Which something else that is really important to note here is KJ himself would have only

• 49:58Speaker 00

  been 11 years old when this was reported in April of 2023. So whatever happened in that earlier case, we are talking about conduct involving children. Now that doesn't make the allegations any less serious, not at all. But legally and developmentally, it is extremely important context, especially if charges did or do come from this. If there is an adult charge on the table, when you're talking about KJ, who was 11, and the alleged victim being nine or 10 years old at the time. It's very complex and it's very dark. And I want to be crystal clear when I'm saying this too. This is not another count in the indictment that we're discussing. This is an entirely separate earlier juvenile matter.

• 50:43Speaker 00

  The seven charges that KJ is currently facing, those all stem from the April 23rd, 2026 Lifetime Gym Incident. While KJ was 15 years old and his alleged victim is 15 years old. However, this does speak to pattern, to history. If he was already on court supervision and there was already sexual misconduct, what has been going on in the home for the last five years leading up to this? And naturally, people online immediately started trying to identify what family member this could have been, which, like I said, I'm not going to name and I'm not going to speculate any specific child because we are potentially talking about a minor victim of sexual abuse in this situation.

• 51:25Speaker 00

  However, what we can look at are some of the unusual events within the family during this same period of time. And I'm not claiming that these are connected in any way, but I do want to at least illuminate them so that you can start to see what was going on inside this household over the last five years, what the family dynamic was, and what I believe was getting either brushed under the rug or parents choosing to mentally check out and not focus on their children. Let's start by going back to the divorce. In late April, 2023, Kim and Kroy filed for legal separation and Kroy immediately filed an emergency request for permanent physical and legal custody of the children.

• 52:10Speaker 00

  At the time, he described Kim as unstable and unfit, saying that as a parent, she's awful and he accused her of being more concerned with her own image and career opportunities than with the children's best interests. Which that timeline is very important because that means that the same month that Kroy filed for legal separation and filed for the emergency request for permanent physical and legal custody of the kids is the same month and year that this sexual incident allegedly was reported. Was that the catalyst for the divorce? Did he see something, hear something, or know something? And that's why he also petitioned to have permanent custody of the kids, both physically and legally?

• 52:54Speaker 00

  I mean, we do see custody battles between husbands and wives all the time, but I would say more times than not, it's the mom fighting for custody rather than the father fighting for custody. I don't know why that is, maternal instincts, maternal care, whatever it is. And that's again, not every case, but more times than not, it's the mom who usually wants full custody. But in this case, Kroy wanted it. And I think that that is not necessarily telling, but an interesting detail in all of this. Also, the fact that he was describing her as unstable and unfit, saying she only cared about her own image and career opportunities, not the children's best interests. Okay, Kroy, well, what proof do you have? What examples do you have?

• 53:36Speaker 00

  Or are you not citing those if you were made privy to any information? Because you don't want to put your family in the limelight in that sense and have all of that information blown up? Are you keeping it private with the intention of trying to protect your family's image and privacy of your young children? Very possible. It's very possible he did see something and he just doesn't want his children's dirty laundry and behavior and victim children out there in a big way. But then, fast forward a few weeks and on May 8th, 2023, Kim filed for divorce herself. And in her filing, she requested primary physical custody and joint legal custody of the kids. Ultimately though, Kim did not get primary physical custody. And we don't know exactly why.

• 54:21Speaker 00

  Again, all of the details very well could be sealed. Could it because they're minors involved and it's a private matter? We don't know. But something did happen to where the judge did not grant Kim primary physical custody and the judge granted that to Kroy. The judge ruled that she and Kroy would continue to share joint legal custody, but that Kroy would have the final say on educational decisions, non-emergency medical care, and religious matters. This all according to court documents. Which again, the timing here is incredibly important because all of this happened around the same period that prosecutors are saying the alleged incident involving a family member was reported. Then, jumping forward a couple of years to 2025.

• 55:04Speaker 00

  In June, Kim's daughter Ariana spoke about the impact of Kim and Kroy's bitter divorce. This is when she appeared on Gia Giudice's podcast, who is another housewife's daughter, Teresa Giudice, who you probably know her, she went to prison. Well, her daughter Gia has a podcast. She's also on a new show herself, a spinoff called Next Gen NYC, where it documents all the kids of the housewives navigating life in New York. But Ariana was a guest on her podcast and spoke out. And she said that the family drama ultimately comes down to hurt, anger, and money. And she also pointed out that her younger siblings have been caught in the middle of the chaos. She specifically said that her younger sister Kaia, quote, "needs to be in therapy",

• 55:48Speaker 00

  adding that she believes that everyone in the family could benefit from professional help. She also claimed that her brothers have refused to go to therapy, explaining that traditionally, the family's way of dealing with difficult situations has been to stay quiet and avoid addressing the problems head on. Which that kind of goes back to what I was just saying, right? Even if Kroy knew about this incident and that's what was the catalyst in him filing for divorce and asking for primary custody, maybe he didn't air that publicly because how they have dealt with difficult decisions over the last several years has been to stay quiet, avoid addressing the problems in public. Which here's the entire clip from that podcast interview. Take a listen.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  I think that's why we all like.

• 56:28Speaker 06

  My little sister acts.

• 56:30Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 56:31Speaker 06

  My little sister acts crazy.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, we all need to be in therapy.

• 56:33Speaker 06

  Everybody should be in therapy. I think it's great for you. I tell my brothers all the time, they, you know, my mom is.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  It's funny because when they're also at that age, they're rebelling, they're.

• 56:40Speaker 06

  They don't.

• 56:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, they rebel, they rebel to therapy.

• 56:42Speaker 06

  They're like, I'm not going to talk to this weirdo. Like, why am I doing that? My brothers will sit there, my mom has their counselors for them, has everything. They'll sit there and literally not say a damn word.

• 56:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:51Speaker 06

  Nothing.

• 56:51Speaker 02

  Melania was the same way.

• 56:53Speaker 00

  Now, obviously, those comments were made well before the current allegations became public. But they have since resurfaced because of the questions surrounding KJ's behavior and the allegations against him. And get this, a week after Ariana's episode aired, which again, was back in 2025, TMZ reported that Kim and Kroy had sent their younger daughter Kaia to live with Kroy's parents in Montana. According to a parenting plan that was obtained by TMZ, there were some pretty strict rules that were put in place for her as well. And this was summer of 2025, which was right before the October 2025 court order for KJ, but also after the alleged incident.

• 57:35Speaker 00

  So the plan reportedly required Kaia to stay with her grandparents for at least three consecutive weeks away from both her mom and dad. Then, after those three weeks, she would check in with her parents and decide whether or not she wanted to stay longer. Which, in any parenting plan that I've seen, the child is not usually the one to dictate the restrictions and the plan. And so, part of me wonders if this plan was formulated to protect Kaia? And then ultimately, because it says after the three weeks, she gets to decide if she wants to stay longer or not? Kroy was also required to give Kim the contact information for his parents and his sister in case she needed to reach Kaia. And Kaia, like I said, she wasn't being forced to stay there.

• 58:18Speaker 00

  If she wanted to come home, her grandparents, per this arrangement, had to arrange for her to return within 48 hours. So this young minor girl dictating and navigating the restrictions of this parenting plan, which is very unusual, I have to say. During her time in Montana, Kaia was also given a flip phone. Not a smartphone, not a phone with social media, a flip phone. A flip phone that she could use for 15-minute phone calls with each parent. But there was also, and this is what I find very, very interesting in all of this, as if this plan and these rules aren't rigid enough, there was a strict rule put in place saying she was not allowed to spend time around boys. Boys her age in middle school or boys in high school.

• 59:03Speaker 00

  She could not be around boys at all. Now here's where I went looking for an explanation. Because admittedly, this parenting plan, it sounds unusually specific and very bizarre. Why was Kaia the only child sent to Montana? Why was she given a flip phone instead of a smartphone? Why did the court specifically say that she could not be left unsupervised with middle or high school-aged boys? And I searched high and low for an underlying reason, but as of right now, at the time of this recording, I cannot find one that has been publicly reported. But I also want to be clear that there is absolutely nothing in the public record that I have found

• 59:44Speaker 00

  that connects this arrangement to KJ or the earlier juvenile case within the family that I mentioned earlier. So I don't want to make that leap and connect the two when there is nothing that has actually physically connected the two in public. But given what we know was happening behind the scenes with this family, I do think that the. usual terms of the order are worth noting. Not only that she appeared to be in the driver's seat of this plan, but just how unusually specific all of the boundaries and parameters were. Again, none of this establishes any connection to the allegations against KJ. But given everything that has come out since, I do think that it is an important detail. When we're looking at the family dynamics, why was she sent away?

• 1:00:26Speaker 00

  Or did she willingly want to leave and get away from the house for whatever reason? I also have seen light rumblings out there that it was potentially because Kaya was hyperactive, hypersexual, a little bit of a wild child. Although I want to be very clear, that has never been verified or proven. And also, that doesn't mean if she was acting out, that that behavior wasn't stemming from something else. So in September of 2025, Kim's oldest daughter, Brielle, also talked about KJ on another podcast. This was on the Airtime Podcast. And what I thought was interesting is she described him as someone who was already very interested in girls at a very young age.

• 1:01:09Speaker 00

  She joked too about him calling her to send him money while he was out with these girls, including one time when he asked her to Zelle him $100 because he was out buying a girl a burger. And Brielle also said that KJ had drained her Lyft account, which is kind of like Uber, saying that he would call her late at night, asking her to get him a ride without their mom knowing that he was out, being like, hey, can you call me a car? Mom doesn't know I'm out. Which, that again, I think is important because it illustrates family dynamics. How present of a parent was Kim? Was Kroy? Did they know what was going on under their roof? Did they let their kids just go out at all hours of the night? How much of a true parent were they being in these years? In these very formative years? I know I'm a helicopter parent. That's fine. I will be the first to admit it.

• 1:01:54Speaker 00

  But there is no world in which my 14-year-old is calling my other child to ask for an Uber so they can get home because I am of the belief that they are still at home and that I don't know where they are or what they're doing. Absolutely not.

• 1:02:08Speaker 06

  KJ is 14, going into high school, and he is fast. Okay? I'm like, KJ, calm down. My breath. Yeah, like, calm down, okay? There's enough women for later. Like, you're going into high school, let's, you're just starting, my, my man. Like, let's, like, he'll, he'll call me and be like, can you Zelle me $100 really quick? I'm like, for what? He's like, I'm at the Avalon buying this girl a burger. Ah, no, that's right. What? $100 for a burger? At least take her shopping, take her to Sephora, pick out a blush, something else. Oh my gosh. This kid has drained my Lyft account. I cannot believe that I'm not banned on there yet. He calls me every other night, Brielle, it's 10:30, mom doesn't know I'm out, can you get me a Lyft?

• 1:02:53Speaker 06

  Oh, I hope I don't get KJ in trouble. But I'm like, sure, hurry up, send me the address.

• 1:02:58Speaker 00

  Now, to be fair, I don't know how much the older girls actually knew about what was happening inside the family home with their younger siblings, or whether they were being kept out of certain things entirely. I don't know. Because based on the interviews that we've seen, if they knew that something had happened between KJ and a family member, I would think that they probably wouldn't have been talking about him so casually and kind of throwing him under the bus that way, especially if there was already an active investigation. But keep in mind, KJ wasn't placed under court-ordered supervision until a month after Brielle's interview aired. So at the time that the girls made those comments, there is no indication from what I've seen and what I've been able to find that they knew about the investigation or

• 1:03:39Speaker 00

  that either one of them could have predicted that KJ would ultimately be arrested, you know, months later.

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• 1:05:14Speaker 00

  Like I mentioned earlier, as of right now, we don't know whether KJ has met all of the conditions of his bond. His next scheduled court appearance is for October 14th, when his arraignment is expected to take place. And at that time, the defense is also expected to enter not guilty pleas to all the charges. Okay, so like it always happens, in breaking cases, sometimes after I record, even new information comes out. And sure enough, as soon as I pressed the stop button, more information has come out within the last 24 and 48 hours. And really, some major developments in KJ's case that I feel like we have to address in order to make this episode complete. I mentioned earlier that I was working very hard to obtain certain documents.

• 1:05:57Speaker 00

  And this morning, I received two reports that I do want to share with you. Now, the first is the actual parenting plan regarding Kaya. I received the file directly from the courthouse, and it contains additional details that haven't really been reported anywhere else. So I do want to walk you through the document and explain what it says while also not reading it verbatim, because there is a sense, certain sensitivity around it, not with the parenting plan itself, but just given the nature of the situation. I don't know, I just want to kind of, you know, go over and give you the gist of everything. Here's kind of what it all explains. The document is titled Temporary Consent Parenting Plan for Summer 2025. And it lists Kroy, the father, as the petitioner, and Kim as the defendant.

• 1:06:42Speaker 00

  So here's what the court documents actually say about the summer of 2025, because the arrangement involving Kaya was a very specific. Based on a recommendation from the guardian ad litem, Kim and Kroy agreed to a temporary summer parenting plan for their four minor children, KJ, Cash, and the twins, Kaya and Kane. Under that agreement, Kaya was allowed to temporarily move to Montana to stay with her paternal grandparents, with the plan for her to leave around June 18th. She was required to stay for at least three consecutive weeks, 21 days. And then, the attorneys and the guardian ad litem were supposed to have a conference

• 1:07:24Speaker 00

  call to determine whether she should stay in Montana longer or whether the court needed to get involved with that decision. And there were some pretty specific rules surrounding her time there. I know I touched on some a little bit, but now I want to just go through the exact parenting plan and let you know exactly what those rules were. So Kaya was allowed to keep the flip phone with her at all times, and both Kim and Kroy were allowed one phone call with her per day. However, it was limited to 15 minutes. Her grandparents were also responsible for making sure that she continued attending all of her scheduled therapy appointments virtually. Neither Kim nor Kroy was allowed to travel to Montana to visit her, not unless there was an emergency or they both agreed to it in writing.

• 1:08:09Speaker 00

  Which to me, that was pretty telling. The fact that in this parenting plan, through the court, it stipulates the parents are not allowed to travel to visit her unless it's an emergency and that there's something agreed to in writing. It makes me believe there was a need and a reason for her being away from her parents. And importantly, this wasn't necessarily a situation where Kaya was being forced to remain there against her wishes. The agreement specifically said that if she asked to come home, that she had to be returned to Atlanta within 48 hours. However, one of the most notable provisions, and one that raises a lot of questions when you're reading it back now, is that Kaya was not allowed to be left unsupervised with

• 1:08:53Speaker 00

  any male children around her age, specifically, boys ranging from middle school through high school age. The agreement doesn't explain why that restriction was put in place. So, you know, I don't want to speculate beyond what the document actually says, but that language was specifically included in this court-ordered parenting plan. And there was another safeguard requiring the father, Kroy, to immediately notify Kim in writing if any family member contacted him with concerns about Kaya while she was in Montana. Meanwhile, while Kaya was away, her twin brother Kane would follow the same custody schedule as his older brothers, KJ and Cash, meaning all three boys would move between Kim and Kroy's homes together in Atlanta.

• 1:09:38Speaker 00

  And then, once Kaya returned from Montana, the family was supposed to go back to whatever parenting schedule was in effect for all four children at that time. So essentially, this wasn't simply Kaya went to go spend a few weeks with her grandparents for the summer in Montana. This was a court-approved temporary arrangement recommended by the guardian ad litem. With a minimum three-week stay, continued Restricted parental visits, daily communication limits, the ability for Kaya to request to come home, and then that very specific supervision requirement involving boys around her age. And look, anytime a guardian ad litem is put into a family court case or a case involving a child, they are there to advocate for the child on behalf of the child

• 1:10:23Speaker 00

  and really be there as a, you know, I don't want to say a neutral source, but someone there for the child's well-being. So my question is, still, what was the catalyst that resulted in this parenting plan being put into place? Was it that in April 2023, when Kroy filed for divorce, which was the same month that that sexual misconduct situation happened with KJ? What is really going on here? The second document that I received reveals some very alarming behavior. Now, before I get into this police report, I do want to give you a trigger warning. It contains allegations of animal abuse. So on November 25th, 2025, a 911 call was made to the Alpharetta Police Department

• 1:11:06Speaker 00

  regarding disorderly juveniles who were throwing firecrackers and eggs at horses. The report states that at 2:00 PM, a caller advised that a teenage male at this address was on his porch screaming obscenities and throwing firecrackers at the caller's horseback riding facility. Children were also present at camps at the location. So apparently, this male was throwing eggs at the caller's property, throwing things at the horseback riding facility and the horses. The male was described as approximately 16 to 17 years old, and the caller stated that this was not the first occurrence. There was also a younger brother at the location. So the caller said that they had attempted to contact a parent at the residence in the past, but that that parent was extremely rude.

• 1:11:51Speaker 00

  The caller advised that they have never seen a parent at the residence, and they ended up meeting with officers at Old Alpharetta Road. So then, at 2:38 PM, the, one of the units responding made contact with Kim Bierman, the mother, and advised her to speak with her boys about yelling obscenities from the back of their house toward this horse farm. Kim stated she would review her cameras and that she would address the issue. However, this is so disturbing on many different levels because based on the timeline, KJ had only been under court supervision for a couple of weeks at this point. And as we know, animal cruelty in children, that can be a huge warning sign associated with trauma, conduct problems, and exposure to violence.

• 1:12:34Speaker 00

  It can also reflect an attempt to gain power or control by targeting something more vulnerable. And I know you guys know this for all my true crime watchers, but studies have found a significant overlap between severe animal cruelty and later violence in life, with documented histories of animal abuse among violent offenders, even among sexual homicide perpetrators and domestic abusers. And we've seen that with some of the biggest true crime cases out there, right? And serial killers. Dahmer, Son of Sam, Ted Bundy, so many of them start by abusing animals. So after reading this report, I couldn't help but think about what their second son, Cash, and when he was mauled by the family dog, if you remember that.

• 1:13:17Speaker 00

  So I actually went back, and you may not know what I'm talking about, but he ended up getting mauled by one of the dogs, and it was like very, very scary. So I went back and I re-watched Don't Be Tardy. And I watched the entire incident where it actually plays out in an episode, which the episode is called "The Incident." And one thing immediately stood out to me. They showed surveillance footage from the aftermath, the immediate aftermath, which is basically kind of them running to the car and, you know, Kroy's version of what happens, which raises some more questions. But the attack occurred back in April of 2017, which April just seems to be a bad month for the Biermans. But anyway, according to Kroy, the attack happened while Cash and his brother KJ were playing outside. Kroy was using a leaf blower to clean the yard,

• 1:14:02Speaker 00

  which then put the dog on high alert. Startled by the loud noise while Cash was playing near him, the dog bit Cash directly on the face. Cash suffered severe traumatic facial injuries as a result of this and was rushed to the hospital for emergency surgery. The bite left a scratch that was also just 1 millimeter away from his left eye. So while his eyeball was untouched and his vision remained perfect, he did require stitches along the inside of his waterline. He underwent multiple reconstructive plastic surgeries too over the next three years. The family ultimately sent the dog to a rehabilitation trainer and decided to keep him. But then, just a couple of months after the attack, Cash also got a new puppy.

• 1:14:46Speaker 00

  So that got me thinking a little bit about Kim's other dogs, specifically the two smaller ones that seemed to disappear from the show. Because if I remember correctly, those dogs were eventually re-homed, and Kim said it was because they were too small to be around the boys. She was worried about them getting hurt during the boys' roughhousing or something along, along those lines. But what if, I don't know, what if there's something more to it? What if the dog was agitated by something else that it was witnessing, not just the leaf blower? And I'm not trying to like overly speculate. It's just a lot of it is concerning. And as I was looking for that clip about Kim and the smaller dogs, I also started noticing some other moments from KJ's early years that raised some red flags for me. In one episode,

• 1:15:31Speaker 00

  Kroy and Kim were dealing with their teenage daughter Brielle going through a rebellious phase. And Kim actually told Kroy, "You know, I think you'll look back when KJ is 17 years old and be like, damn, Brielle was such a good girl." And looking back at some of those earlier episodes, there seemed to be moments where KJ was already showing concerning behavior, particularly when it came to violent thoughts and how he treated women, including his sisters.

• 1:16:30Speaker 00

  I don't know, a four-year-old threatening to punch his sisters? That doesn't really ring very, I don't know, well-regulated to me. In another clip from the same season, KJ curses at his mother and all of the adults in the room just kind of eat it up, thinking it's the cutest thing they've ever seen.

• 1:16:49Speaker 06

  Hello?

• 1:16:51Speaker 06

  Who is this? KJ? Open it. Open it, open it. Say please. Open the [BLEEP].

• 1:17:04Speaker 06

  Is that what I said?

• 1:17:06Speaker 06

  When KJ says [BLEEP], it's kind of alarming.

• 1:17:08Speaker 00

  Now, look, I'm not going to say my kids haven't slipped up and said a bad word, or what I deem a bad word in my household, which we don't say the words dumb, crazy, or things like that, which again, maybe that's just me being a helicopter parent. But he's using it in regular vernacular and context in anger, which that to me is alarming. Also, earlier this week, a student who attends at school with KJ came forward on TikTok. It's in a now-deleted video, but she was speaking about KJ and what's reportedly been going on at school. I did save the video, and because this specific video has since been deleted, I want to at least play the audio for you, and maybe I'll play the video for you on YouTube because I do think that it gives some context.

• 1:17:53Speaker 06

  Hi, my name is Sophie, and I am a student at Cambridge High School, and I'm here to talk about one of the students at my school. His name is KJ Bierman, and he was just arrested for sexual assault for another girl at my school. The reason I'm talking about this is because he's only 15 years old, and he is currently being charged with sodomy and some type of, like, I don't know the legal, like, charge name of it, but he forced her to have oral sex with him and digitally penetrated her. And if you don't know what that means, "digitals" are another word for fingers.

• 1:18:38Speaker 06

  According to the websites I have read, it happened at a Lifetime Fitness, but it was a girl from my school, and it was someone that he knew. And it is horrifying. Knowing that I go to school with someone that has the ability to do this at such a young age is honestly terrifying. And the reason I'm addressing it is because I feel comfortable to talk about it because I am an adult, I'm 18, and I would like to speak up for some of the younger girls at my school that might be scared to like bring, like, press into this or just bring awareness to this. He is currently being held without bond in a juvenile detention center,

• 1:19:22Speaker 06

  and his court date is September 1st or 2nd, I believe. Now, the reason why he is such a big deal is because I haven't checked on TikTok, but on Instagram, he has 30,000, 35,000 followers, and he is verified. And he is a linebacker, I believe, that plays football at my school. His mom was on Bravo. I believe the show was like "Be Tardy" or something like that, and his dad was an NFL player.

• 1:20:02Speaker 02

  Girl at my school is, but um, her name will not be addressed like out loud and stuff in any court cases whatsoever because they don't do that with sexual assault. And I would also like to say that I have a lot of respect for this girl for coming forward and saying something because in the state of Georgia, in the area, I am our, the guys in this area are not respectful at all. I will say that firsthandedly. They, there are a lot of racist, very sexist guys in the area that I live in. And I feel like this is just another result of that.

• 1:20:46Speaker 02

  But I'm very happy she came forward and I'm, I have a lot of respect for someone who does that. Especially for all the girls that I know personally and just any girl who has never had the courage to come forward and speak up about it. Please speak out about stuff like this because this is not normal and it never should be. This should never be normalized. And people at my school are already starting to make jokes. Saying free KJ. Thank you for your time.

• 1:21:21Speaker 00

  Now honestly, this student seems incredibly wise for her age. So I just want to say if there's any chances that she is watching this, you should be incredibly proud of yourself for coming forward and for speaking up for other girls and classmates at your school. It takes a lot of courage to use your voice when you know that there could be backlash and I really hope that she knows that what she does and what she did matters. What I do know in all of this is that based on everything we've covered, there appears to have been multiple warning signs and red flags that were either completely ignored or seemingly covered up by KJ's parents. And perhaps more importantly, it seems like Kim and Kroy have been so focused on blaming each other for everything,

• 1:22:02Speaker 00

  from the infidelity to having sex too close to the children, whatever it is, that there hasn't been enough accountability when it comes to their own child's behavior. And look, I just have to say, obviously Kim knew about the 2023 incident. So the fact that now in April, in this new 2026 incident, she's trying to discredit this new victim, saying how false accusations are damaging. It's just incredibly disgusting, given what she knew and that she knew that there was already a track record with her son. So I will obviously keep you updated as more information comes in. But I want to know what you guys think too. Do you want me to walk you through all that body cam footage from the Biermann House? Do you want a full deep dive into Kim and Kroy's past and their ongoing legal battles?

• 1:22:47Speaker 00

  Let me know. I will keep you updated. I will let you know as soon as there is more information here. Let me know your thoughts. And if you do want me to do a deep dive into like the marriage battle and that messy divorce and all of that, I know that's not necessarily true crime related. Let me know. I could do that maybe in like an Annie rant or something. But I unfortunately think we are just scratching the surface with all of this. So more to come. Thank you for tuning into another episode of Serialistically with me. Don't forget, if you're watching on YouTube, subscribe, like the video, share. And if you are listening to the audio episode of this and you are a first time listener and you're not following the podcast, press the follow button so that you do not miss new episodes.

• 1:23:27Speaker 00

  I will be back with you on Thursday, going over everything happening this week in true crime. Until the next one, be nice, don't kill people, and just don't be a predator. Bye.

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