416: Incest Dad Basically Walks Free, Teen Marly Kinney Vanishes At Boat Party & Sisters Murder and Smile After

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• 1:23Annie Elise?

  Hey, true crime besties. Welcome back to an all new episode of Serialishly.

• 1:46Annie Elise?

  Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to an all new episode of Serialishly. With me, your host, Annie E. Lys, coming to you from New York and I can't really do a big tee up intro because you're on the screen. I'm right here. There's no surprise. So hello. Hello. Can you just like show how close we are? It's like, hey, we're really close. Uh, no, welcome back. So happy Thursday. That means headline highlights today and there are so many cases to discuss, which I swear, I feel like I say that every single week, but it's because there are so many cases to discuss every single week and there are certainly no shortage in cases today,

• 2:31Annie Elise?

  or certainly is no shortage in cases today. Is, are? Is. Is, yeah, is. Guys, you can already see I have brain rot. I'm on vacay mode, guys. But still, you know, I'm here, I'm clocking in for duty. No, there is so much to talk about, but really quickly, before I get to the housekeeping of like case updates, I gotta give a shout out my girl CJ. If you are listening right now, I want to tell you it was so, so, so nice meeting you on Sunday. I love, I've told you guys this before. I love when people will come up to me in the wild and be like, oh my gosh, I listen, or I have followed you for years. And kind of a little bit of an embarrassing story on Sunday.

• 3:12Annie Elise?

  We were recovering from Palm Tree Festival out here in New York and my husband Jeremiah ordered a massive McDonald's delivery. And when I tell you massive, I'm talking handlebag massive. It was heavy. It was very heavy. And CJ, she came through and we started chatting at the door. She recognized me. We were talking. She's like, oh my gosh, I've been listening to you for years. She met Amy. I want to apologize CJ as well. I didn't look my best that day. I've been in better form. I think I just woke up from a nap. Yeah, it was rough. And like, of course, in true Emmy fashion, as I'm at the doorway talking with CJ, she just walks up, grabs the McDonald's bag and like walks away. I'm all, okay, get out of my face.

• 3:55Annie Elise?

  But yes, so nice meeting you. Thank you so much for listening with your daughter and for taking the time to chat with me that afternoon. It was just, I loved getting to know you and glad we got some pictures together too. And just like, I love meeting you guys. In the wild. So shout out to CJ and, and please don't share my address since you obviously know where I'm at.

• 4:16Annie Elise?

  Okay. Other housekeeping news. Okay. Alex Murdaugh, he had a hearing earlier this week and we all know that his double murder conviction was thrown out and that he's going to retrial. And officially a retrial has been set for tentatively beginning on April 5th, 2027. And there's not too much I want to go into this case on right out of the jump, but are right off the jump. But like what I do want to say here is I'm confident that he will still be found guilty. However, I want to put that big however in there.

• 4:55Annie Elise?

  I am a little bit concerned only because I don't believe that they're allowed to bring in the financial crimes as much as they did in the last trial. I think there's going to be more. I don't know if I want to say accusations or speculation brought up to create the reasonable doubt that Buster is the one who did this and that he's covering for his son. And so while I'm confident there will still be a conviction, I am a little bit

• 5:24Annie Elise?

  not nervous, but like apprehensive, like, oh, I could see where maybe there's like

• 5:30Annie Elise?

  a thin line where maybe it won't happen. Yeah. Which with Letitia Stalk, I think it's a no brainer. I think that bitch is going down, down, down and like that chance you're ever going to be released. But there is something with him. I could see them weaseling their way out.

• 5:45Speaker 04

  I was gonna say they tend to always weasel their way out.

• 5:48Annie Elise?

  Weasel is the best word to describe him and his face. Like you're a weasel. And yeah, especially if they're not able to really like harp on the financial crimes as much this go around. I don't know. There's something that gives me a little bit of pause, but you guys tell me what you think. Now, in other housekeeping news and some good news that I think a lot of people are going to be happy about. We have an up, well, I shouldn't say that. Some people will be happy, some won't. We do have an update in the Mackenzie Sharilla case. And before I go any further, let me just say this. I hear you when you say, I'm so done talking about this trashy brat. Why are we bringing her name up?

• 6:27Annie Elise?

  I get it. I hear you. We are leaving her behind, but I do have some good news right now to share with you about her. Because it has, it's good news and it has pretty much closed the door on her most recent appeal completely. So we talked a few weeks ago about how Mackenzie and her team were asking to have the Ohio Supreme Court review her appeal after it had been rejected by the lower court for being filed a day late due to the, you know, quote unquote, miscalculation because of the leap year. And the appeal was based on the quote, "medical evidence" that Mackenzie had suffered from a pre-existing medical condition that could have caused her to blackout while driving. However, there were, so let me backtrack a little bit.

• 7:09Annie Elise?

  They filed it one day late. Rules are rules. If, and if they made exceptions for everybody who filed a little bit late, it would create chaos. So I get that. However, because it was a leap year and it was only one day late, I think people thought like, maybe there would be a way for her to also weasel her way in and get that appeal going. But now the Ohio Supreme Court has officially declined to hear the appeal. Meaning they won't even take the case up for review.

• 7:34Speaker 04

  Thank God.

• 7:35Annie Elise?

  I know. Now, this is the second time that the Supreme Court has declined to hear her appeal. The first being back in May of 2025. So like I said, good news. This is yet again, another major legal loss for Mackenzie and her family. She's now had three appeals be rejected since she was first convicted. So as of now, she's going to continue serving her sentence of 15 years to life and her first opportunity for parole is scheduled for 2037.

• 8:06Speaker 04

  I mean, this girl doesn't do herself any favors.

• 8:08Annie Elise?

  Well, I was just going to say that. I get this. Anger or annoyance, I should say of people being like, stop talking about her case. She wants her 15 minutes of fame. We don't want to hear this girl anymore. We know she has no remorse. We know that she's an asshole, all of these things. However, she doesn't do her any herself any favors. Yes, with all of these jail calls being released and all those things. Also, her parents did not do her any favors with doing the Netflix documentary. And I think that not by continuing to talk about it now because the ritual, the ritual, the appeal has been rejected. But leading up to that, it is important to put it out there as to who this girl truly is. There is no remorse. Here are her actions. Here are her parents' actions. Yeah, they're enablers because all of that goes and ties directly into somebody's character.

• 8:54Annie Elise?

  When you're taking things into consideration and all of that. So now that that's been rejected, I feel like. Adios, good written. We don't care about you at all. See ya. Never.

• 9:04Speaker 04

  I mean, she just needs to fly under the radar, be on her best behavior and like pray that when her parole hearing is there that she's like.

• 9:12Annie Elise?

  She's got 10 years, 11 years.

• 9:13Speaker 04

  Turned a corner and hopefully.

• 9:16Annie Elise?

  She's got 11 years to get her shit together.

• 9:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:18Annie Elise?

  And to stop being like, yeah, stop being Regina George. So can you do it, Mackenzie?

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Can you stay off the phone?

• 9:26Annie Elise?

  I'm not going to hold my breath. Now, in another quick, before we get into all the cases, another little housekeeping update. This one pisses me the hell off. And so I'm very angry about this. But this is related to another case that you have been following very closely with me for the last several months. And we just received the sentencing and it's pretty disheartening if I'm going to be honest. And I'm sure you'll be frustrated by this as well. But if you remember, we talked a couple of weeks ago. And actually, we've been talking over the last couple of months intermittently, but we talked about Michaela settles. She's the girl who moved from the Carolinas to California to live with her biological father. To go to school and to, you know, have a California life, only to then be.

• 10:11Annie Elise?

  Sexually assaulted by her biological father for over four hours so badly that she had to be carried into the ER and then she took her own life over it. And this scumbag, and I know it's enraging, but just for those who have not followed in, I'll link the deep dive into this. Actually, did we do a deep dive? I can't remember if I just talked about it on headline highlights or if we did a deep dive. But if you aren't familiar with this case, basically because she took her life, there wasn't any witness testimony to say that their exchange was not consensual, which is infuriating to hear like, yeah, it's her father. She is technically 18, so not a child, but still pretty much a child, right?

• 10:54Annie Elise?

  But he was arguing that it was consensual, that they got drunk, all of these things. Meanwhile, hello, she had to be carried in by her uncle into the ER. She was so physically damaged by this and then so emotionally damaged that she took her own life. But my point is because she was no longer there to testify against him, even though she did file the police report, the state just didn't believe that they had a strong enough case to pursue any sort of manslaughter, murder, anything excessive, whatever it is. So all they were going to pursue were these incest charges and abuse of a vulnerable person by a trusted adult. And so like, let me read what that means for him in terms of sentencing,

• 11:36Annie Elise?

  because we knew that based on now these minimal charges that he was only going to face, I believe it was like three years and then time on the registry. However, even though he faced up to three years, he could have only, he, there was a chance he may only be sentenced to a few months or a year. And it's just, again, infuriating. And so now he has officially been sentenced and he's been sentenced to one year in county jail, three years of probation. And he is going to be on the registry for the next 20 years. Now, this sentence was in exchange for him pleading guilty to felony incest and to misdemeanors for giving alcohol to a minor.

• 12:19Annie Elise?

  Because remember, although she was 18, she was not 21. He also admitted to abusing a position of trust and that Michaela was particularly vulnerable. Now prosecutors had asked for that maximum sentence of three years in state prison. But the judge, I guess, just decided ultimately that because of Stephen's lack of criminal history, one year would suffice.

• 12:42Speaker 04

  Which disgusting.

• 12:44Annie Elise?

  It is. And he was in, I believe he was an electrician, if I'm remembering correctly. Meaning he was like going in and out of houses, which hello, this guy's a predator. Now that he's on the registry. I know you're not allowed to go to schools and parks and things like that. I would imagine he's not allowed to go into any sort of houses.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  Since he pled guilty to a felony, I think usually you have to disclose that on an application.

• 13:03Annie Elise?

  That's true. Yeah. So I mean, at least he won't be in a position to prey on people as easily. And I say that as easily, he still is certainly going to be able to prey on people because he is going to be out in a year, probably even less. Because hello, let's talk about California. Overpopulated, people end up serving a couple of weeks or a couple of months. And they're letting the creepiest of the creepy guys out. Like, not saying this guy isn't one of those, but like they're letting serial killers and serial abusers out. Saying that like, oh, they age out a bit at 60 years old, which that's a whole other fucking argument I could go into on another day. And why the system is so broken. But this is incredibly frustrating.

• 13:45Annie Elise?

  It's like, oh, you get to rape your daughter for four hours straight. She takes her own life and you get a slap on the wrist.

• 13:54Speaker 04

  Well, even, and even if your argument is it's consensual, which it's not, and that's irrelevant. But she was so injured and it's your own daughter that I can't imagine that those two things didn't equal more than a year.

• 14:10Annie Elise?

  No, it's unbelievable. And like, hi, I'm just going to say it, like felony incest is a crime for a reason. And I am so sick of talking about these incest cases, which I feel like are just like. Up, up, up, like, there's so many. And it's like, stop having sex with your family. Like, is that the new tagline?

• 14:28Speaker 04

  Like, is it really that hard to go? Well, it must be some sort of a, like,

• 14:33Annie Elise?

  It's like a control thing of that. Yeah.

• 14:35Speaker 04

  But I also was like, thinking hopefully, or I was hopeful that the uncle would break and like, that the father would have confided in the uncle if the uncle was the one carrying her into the hospital. Like, in a moment of weakness, say what had happened and that he would then come forward.

• 14:51Annie Elise?

  I know. It's, uh, it's one of those cases that just like,

• 14:56Speaker 04

  So unfair.

• 14:56Annie Elise?

  You lose sleep at night over it. So the Ventura County District Attorney's Office later released a statement saying, of course, they were very disappointed with this outcome and that a prison sentence, not county jail, which is what he was sentenced to, but a prison sentence was the only punishment that truly reflected how serious this crime was and also reflected the devastating impact that it had on Michaela and her family. During the hearing, several of Michaela's loved ones also addressed the court, asking the judge to impose the maximum sentence. But as we know, those requests were ultimately denied. And my heart breaks for Michaela's mother. All the way from that first moment of getting that phone call from Michaela,

• 15:38Annie Elise?

  flying out to California, seeing her, trying to repair the emotional damage when you brought her back home and like, then to lose her. It's just, not that I would ever advocate for vigilante justice. But this is one of those moments where as a mother, I don't even know how you would restrain yourself from going after this creep.

• 16:00Speaker 04

  Well, and that's, I was thinking, you know, there's no way in hell he's going to be able to enter society when he's out of prison. And anyone is going to, I hope that they,

• 16:12Annie Elise?

  Right. I don't know. There's a lot of freaks out there.

• 16:14Speaker 04

  They, um, take care of things.

• 16:16Annie Elise?

  Well, the good news is, yeah. Prison justice is a real thing. However, county jail justice sometimes is a little bit different. There's different restrictions in terms of like, when you're like, socializing. And it's just like, it's not as, hardened criminals in county jail usually which is kind of I think why the prosecutor's office is or the district attorney's office is so angry because they're like hi the severity of this crime he belongs in prison with these like minded offenders whereas he's going to county jail where people go when they get a DUI which it's like DUIs are obviously serious and dangerous and like take lives too yes but like that's not necessarily someone who is going to

• 16:56Speaker 04

  I think it's the community of dads when he gets out

• 16:59Annie Elise?

  yeah

• 17:00Speaker 04

  that are like you're not coming around our kids you're not coming around our families

• 17:04Annie Elise?

  yeah

• 17:04Speaker 04

  and then

• 17:05Annie Elise?

  shunned for life

• 17:06Speaker 04

  he disappears

• 17:07Annie Elise?

  whatever it disappears disappears under my driveway slab

• 17:15Speaker 04

  it is what it is

• 17:16Annie Elise?

  it is what it is I'm actually I shouldn't have said that because the story you're about to talk about is about sisters who kill together

• 17:22Speaker 04

  well I know no I know when I was reading I was like oh

• 17:25Annie Elise?

  so maybe we shouldn't joke about murdering

• 17:27Speaker 04

  no I know

• 17:28Annie Elise?

  together because people will take us seriously

• 17:30Speaker 04

  well you guys have probably seen this one all over social media because the last few days it's kind of what everyone's talking about it's you saw it right it's the two sisters that were smiling

• 17:40Annie Elise?

  I don't know all the details but I saw it and I saw that it happened at like a sonic drive through

• 17:44Speaker 04

  yes

• 17:45Annie Elise?

  in the middle of the day

• 17:46Speaker 04

  well yeah so it's not just super crazy because of what happened basically in broad daylight in a very small town out inside of Texas right actually close to the border of Mexico but what has everybody talking is actually the videos that surfaced after the police made the arrests authorities say that three women including two sisters were identified and taken into custody within just a couple of hours but even though investigators were able to arrest them quickly the biggest question is why and they still don't really have any answers as to why so this all happened in the afternoon of June 25 in Del Rio Texas

• 18:28Speaker 04

  around 2:10pm when officers were called to Valverde Regional Medical Center after a woman by the name of Caroline was brought in with multiple stab wounds she'd been attacked In broad daylight and was stabbed twice in the back and one center side. And one of those stab wounds had actually punctured Caroline's lung. And because of how severe these injuries were, she was airlifted to a hospital in San Antonio for emergency treatment. But sadly, despite all of the doctor's efforts, thirty-two-year-old Caroline Pena died later that evening, just after nine P M. So police pretty quickly learned that the attack happened about five minutes away at an intersection near the local Sonic Drive-In.

• 19:10Speaker 04

  And so from there, they immediately started reviewing all of the surveillance footage and interviewing witnesses that might have been in the area. And it only took two hours for them to identify the three suspects. So around four P M, officers arrested twenty-one-year-old Kitty Mia Diaz and her nineteen-year-old sister, Amaya Cookie Diaz. And then shortly after, they arrested their twenty-one-year-old friend, Kiandra Rene Faz. So after Caroline died from her injuries later that night, all three women were formally charged with murder. And they're being held as the investigation continues. And police say there could be additional charges that are possible because they still don't have all the answers.

• 19:52Annie Elise?

  Yeah, like, were they stalking her? Were they following her? Was it road rage?

• 19:57Speaker 04

  They have no idea. And investigators haven't released any type of answers or any context that led up to the confrontation. Or if the girls even knew each other. And her loved ones are also trying to make sense of what happened and trying to make sure that the public just really knows who Caroline was. And that she was a twin, a mother to five kids. And someone they said would absolutely do anything for anyone that she loved. She was just an amazing person and took such great care of her children. And two of her children have autism, and now all five are left without their mom.

• 20:38Annie Elise?

  So sad.

• 20:39Speaker 04

  It's so sad. She was described as someone who greeted everyone with the biggest smile and hug, no matter how much time had passed. They say that she was fiercely protective of her family and would give someone her last dollar without even thinking twice. One of Caroline's close friends Christina said the two had just spent the evening together the night before cooking with Caroline's daughter. Then just minutes before the attack, Caroline had called her, but Christina had missed the call and Christina feels like, of course, as we all would, like, had I been able to get that call, could I have done something? And then later that afternoon, she came across a photo that was circulating across a Facebook page, showing a woman covered in blood. She said, "Her hair was in the same bun.

• 21:24Speaker 04

  That's all I needed to see. I knew it was her right off the bat."

• 21:28Annie Elise?

  Oh my, I have the chills. Can you imagine?

• 21:30Speaker 04

  Like hanging out with your friend and then you see her in a photo.

• 21:33Annie Elise?

  And you're like, "Oh, my God." And like, that's how you find out. I have the chills right now.

• 21:37Speaker 04

  Like, I just saw her.

• 21:38Annie Elise?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 21:39Speaker 04

  She also said that after being stabbed, Caroline was still standing her ground and fighting through the attack.

• 21:45Annie Elise?

  Yeah, she was going down without a fight, which, I mean, I know we don't know a motive yet, but it's also crazy to think, like, these three girls, nineteen to twenty-one years old. Maybe they knew, yeah, young girls. Maybe they knew she knew her somehow, maybe not. But like, what would motivate these young girls, not only to attack someone, but like, attack a thirty-two-year-old woman in broad daylight?

• 22:07Speaker 04

  So I have a theory. I don't know. I, I, I'm just a guess. To me, it kind of sounds a little bit, potentially, like, gang-related, maybe?

• 22:15Annie Elise?

  Okay.

• 22:16Speaker 04

  I, I don't know. I'm just thinking, like, three girls.

• 22:18Annie Elise?

  In Texas?

• 22:19Speaker 04

  It's on the border near Mexico.

• 22:21Annie Elise?

  Okay.

• 22:22Speaker 04

  And I'm just thinking, three girls, it's like, a, like, a gang, I mean, it's a big task, three-on-one, and like, i- if she is somebody they didn't know and it's unplanned, it's like, was it this, I don't know what gangs call it, like, a challenge or like, whatever they have to do?

• 22:38Annie Elise?

  Possibly, and maybe that's why they were smiling after.

• 22:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, like, it was like an accomplishment or something.

• 22:44Annie Elise?

  Yeah.

• 22:45Speaker 04

  So then came the video arrests.

• 22:47Annie Elise?

  Which these are what's going on.

• 22:48Speaker 04

  What is so viral? Because there isn't a lot of audio in this video, so if you want to watch it, head over to the video version on YouTube, but it's disgusting and chilling and you actually can see one of the girls like flash a peace sign at the camera when she's walking out.

• 23:04Annie Elise?

  She's smiling and then she's all stop recording or says something like that and like

• 23:07Speaker 04

  And they're in these little booty shorts and she has that shirt that has like hands on her chest and I'm like who are these trash girls?

• 23:15Annie Elise?

  Okay, let's yeah, let's play that video.

• 23:18Speaker 04

  So within hours, these videos had spread all over TikTok, as you can imagine, Facebook, Instagram, all over social media, pretty much everywhere and people have just been flooding the comments saying they were shocked by the whole thing. And a lot of people described the sisters as smiling, joking and just cold. And it was unsettling, completely disconnected from this obviously incredibly serious crime that they're facing. So like I said, police haven't said what actually led to the attack, so we don't know that yet. They haven't said whether Caroline knows these three suspects or what may have caused the violence, but the investigation is still continuing. So as more court documents become public, hopefully we'll get some answers.

• 24:00Annie Elise?

  The gang initiation theory is an interesting one because yeah, it will be interesting to know if they knew her or yeah, if there was I would imagine if they collected all the surveillance, they would have identified if it was a road rage road rage incident or something like that at this point, which it doesn't sound like, but it's like these kinds of crimes, the only word you can even use to describe it is senseless. Like you ripped this mother away from her five children. You, she had her whole, she was 32 years old, had her whole life ahead of her.

• 24:29Speaker 04

  Cooking with her daughter the night before.

• 24:31Annie Elise?

  And you're just like laughing about it after.

• 24:33Speaker 04

  Well, that's what kind of made me think potentially a gang thing because it, it's like, I think they weren't shocked that they were caught. Obviously they did it in a way where they weren't trying to conceal it.

• 24:45Annie Elise?

  Yeah.

• 24:45Speaker 04

  There wasn't any type of messaging or any obvious friends coming forward saying, yeah, there was a rivalry or there was some sort of argument that led up to this crime of passion or wherever where they're going intentionally to hurt this person, so.

• 24:59Annie Elise?

  Well, and who knows, maybe by the time this episode releases, there will be more information out there, but yeah, as of right now, not much. Okay, so this next case is from Connecticut and it actually first happened back in March, but there has been a very significant update and we haven't talked about this case before. So I want to like, take it back and walk you through everything. So a young woman had been found dead at the bottom of a staircase. And at first investigators weren't really saying much beyond the fact that her death was, yes, a little bit suspicious. However, as they began digging into what happened inside the home where she was found, the evidence started pointing to something very, very dark. So again, back on March 29th, police were called to a home in Burlington, Connecticut

• 25:43Annie Elise?

  after 28-year-old Cole Werehand's father called 911. In this 911 call, he said that his son had told him that his girlfriend had fallen down the stairs and that she needed medical attention. Now, when first responders arrived, they found 26-year-old Janina Brooke Murphy dead inside the home after what appeared to be this fall down the stairs. Now, at the time, as I said, her death was labeled as suspicious, but the investigators needed to spend some time investigating it, piecing things together. And they spent the next three months really trying to put the puzzle pieces together to figure out what had happened. As they were investigating everything, Cole had told the detectives that he and Brooke had been drinking, they had been smoking marijuana together, and he claimed that he

• 26:28Annie Elise?

  woke up after Brooke had found old deleted text messages between him and two women. When she saw these text messages of him talking to other women, according to him, she became so enraged that she started hitting her own head against the wall, then threw her body down the stairs. Just almost one of those things like, if I can't have you, no one can, or like, but doing it to herself and self-harm, trying to get him to pay attention to her. All of these things that Cole was saying to the detectives. He said that he then carried her into the living room after she threw herself down the stairs. Where in the living room, she was apparently still alive, still trying to breathe. He said that he didn't know what to do, so he called his parents and that's where-

• 27:09Annie Elise?

  When his dad called nine one one. However, as the investigators were building the case behind the scenes after Cole admitted all of this, an autopsy was performed on Brooke. And on June 23rd, the medical examiner officially ruled Brooke's death as a homicide, not as an accidental fall down the stairs. And while yes, he did say she was banging her own head against the wall, they ruled the cause of death as blunt force trauma to the head. So that same day, Cole was arrested and he was charged with her murder. Because investigators say that Cole's version of events and what really happened inside that

• 27:48Annie Elise?

  house are two very different stories. According to court documents, police found blood in several rooms throughout the house, including the bedroom, the bathroom, the kitchen, the hallway, the living room, the staircase, and also outside on the deck and the driveway. So not just right here banging my head against the wall, throwing myself down the stairs, but blood all throughout the house. Which you could argue, it was blood that was transferred to him as he's panicking, he's walking through the house. But like, it's a, it's a lot. Brooke also was found lying under a blanket in the living room with visible injuries to her face, arms, and legs. Her phone also was found with a smashed screen. The autopsy also reported multiple bruises in all

• 28:33Annie Elise?

  different stages of healing, suggesting that some of these injuries have, had possibly occurred before the night that she died, that she was in this ongoing abusive relationship. And then, as investigators dug deeper, they also started to hear from the other women. Prosecutors say that Cole currently has several pending domestic dispute cases with several different women. And his arrest warrant shows that the allegations against him date all the way back 10 years, back to 2017. So nine years, but almost 10 years. Yeah, history, pattern, skeezy guy. Several women who met Cole through dating apps have described having relationships with him that allegedly became controlling and violent. Some say,

• 29:19Annie Elise?

  He physically assaulted them, that he strangled them, held them against their will, and even gave them death threats. One woman told investigators that she believed that if she had gone back to him, she would quote, "end up dead." And then another woman came forward after Brooke's death, and she told the police that she just felt like she could not stay silent anymore. Now Brooke's mom Beth said that her daughter had only recently moved in with Cole when all of this happened. The two of them were supposed to come and visit for Easter weekend so that she could finally meet him, because she hadn't met him yet, but instead she got a phone call from the detectives telling her that Brooke quote, "didn't just fall down the stairs."

• 29:59Annie Elise?

  Now Cole has pleaded not guilty and he's being held on a $5 million bond while the case moves forward. But many of the domestic dispute allegations against him are still pending, and the investigators are continuing to look into whether they show a pattern leading up to Brooke's death. Because I do think, although it seems like the writing is on the wall, the pattern and the history is what's gonna really come into play here, because I could see a very good defense attorney saying the blunt force trauma was from her hitting her own head, the bruises and injuries on her arms and legs are from the fall down the stairs, the smashed phone screen happened from the fall down the stairs, or she smashed it herself, the blood in all the different rooms is because he had picked her up, carried her to the living room,

• 30:43Annie Elise?

  it transferred, then he went outside to greet EMS and that's why he got on the deck. Like, I could see that, but what's gonna seal the deal, assuming that he is guilty, innocent until proven guilty, I'm trying to be better about that, guys. What will seal the deal is the pattern establishing history and determining if those old bruises were inflicted. Once you get expert testimony in, if it appears that she would, yeah, was she in an ongoing abusive relationship?

• 31:12Speaker 04

  Well, I have a few thoughts. Number one, I think to your point, 100% the pattern, and it just speaks to why it's so important to report things, even if you don't feel like it matters and

• 31:24Annie Elise?

  Even if you're out of the relationship with someone.

• 31:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, if it doesn't rule in your favor, and we've seen how those things go unfairly all the time, but at least there's then a record of it, so if it happens again, and so like, thank God for that. But then also, you know, you hear of these toxic relationships and like, I've seen or heard like, you know, you you're frustrated, you hit your head on the whatever like not I not me.

• 31:47Annie Elise?

  But you know, I've heard seen like kids that you maybe like throw a tantrum and like I'm so you know, I don't know. But but when there's blood gushing out, you're not doing that because usually

• 31:59Speaker 04

  I think people do that for like attention and as like a coping in the moment. It's not something where you're starting to injure yourself to the point of like blood flying everywhere and you've got scrapes on your face. And I mean, that doesn't sound at all likely.

• 32:15Annie Elise?

  I also have to say like, is it easy? And this might be a really ignorant question. Is it easy to throw yourself down the stairs?

• 32:23Speaker 04

  No, but what I kind of see is if like, imagine like if there if the source of this argument was text messages. So that was actually what I was going to say next. Once we have more information about the text messages and things coming out, I wonder if he found messages on her phone.

• 32:38Annie Elise?

  Right.

• 32:38Speaker 04

  Or the other way around, but they're fighting, they're grabbing the phone, they're at the top of the stairs and the landing and then somebody falls. So it could have been like accidental. Obviously, there's signs of abuse.

• 32:48Annie Elise?

  But not her being like, I hate you.

• 32:50Speaker 04

  I'm gonna throw myself down.

• 32:53Annie Elise?

  You know what? I don't trust him. Innocent until proven guilty.

• 32:57Speaker 04

  I don't think so.

• 32:58Annie Elise?

  Put guilty in my eyes.

• 32:59Speaker 04

  Put guilty to us.

• 33:00Annie Elise?

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• 33:45Annie Elise?

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• 34:15Speaker 04

  All right, this next case is one that just keeps getting more and more disturbing with every detail that's released. Because what started as a missed checkout at a luxury apartment, quickly turned into a homicide investigation spanning through multiple countries. I know. So 36 year old Natalia Vialba, a Colombian model and influencer, had been staying at a luxury, short-term apartment in an upscale Bagada neighborhood since June 3rd. She was scheduled to check out on June 21st, but when she never did and no one could get in touch with her, staff became very concerned. And the next day, when a cleaner went into the apartment to clean it, expecting to prepare it for the next guest, that's when they walked in and found something that was just straight out of a horror movie.

• 35:00Speaker 04

  According to authorities, Natalia's body had been stuffed inside of a suitcase, which had then been placed in the shower with the water running.

• 35:10Annie Elise?

  Okay, what was the grand plan here?

• 35:13Speaker 04

  That's kind of, I was confused. Obviously, well, we'll get into it. But the water running to me, I'm like, I don't understand. They're in the suitcase with the water running. What is that gonna do?

• 35:22Annie Elise?

  To wash away evidence, but also like, why are you leaving the suitcase in the shower? Okay, yeah, keep going. What?

• 35:27Speaker 04

  So a homicide investigation was started immediately. And according to Colombia's Attorney General's office, investigators found evidence in the apartment that ultimately did point them to a suspect. The suspect was identified as 46 year old British man named Matthew Foster Smith. And according to Colombia prosecutors, Matthew had entered Natalia's apartment on June 18th while she was alone, beat her, then allegedly concealed her body inside the suitcase, before attempting to stage the scene to hide what had happened.

• 36:01Annie Elise?

  Hold on. That's not how you stay just

• 36:03Speaker 04

  No, I know.

• 36:05Annie Elise?

  Okay.

• 36:05Speaker 04

  Well, just wait.

• 36:06Annie Elise?

  Okay.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  He didn't get very far.

• 36:08Annie Elise?

  Yeah.

• 36:09Speaker 04

  He then left Colombia soon after, so authorities quickly issued an arrest warrant and asked Interpol to issue a red notice to help find him, turning this into an international search. So authorities in Colombia, Ecuador, and the UK were all working together to track Matthew down. And just days later, he was arrested in Quito International Airport in Ecuador, where investigators say he was actually getting ready to board a flight back to the UK. He was charged with aggravated femicide and tampering with evidence. Now, I had never heard femicide, have you?

• 36:44Annie Elise?

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:44Speaker 04

  So I didn't know that there was actually a specific crime, which for those of you that might not know, maybe I'm the only one that didn't know, it's a homicide, but that's intentionally towards female.

• 36:56Annie Elise?

  Yeah, it's not just like if you happen to kill a female, it's like if you have

• 36:58Speaker 04

  You kill them because they're a woman.

• 36:59Annie Elise?

  Because they're a female.

• 37:00Speaker 04

  And it's like proven that it was based on gender.

• 37:03Annie Elise?

  Yes.

• 37:03Speaker 04

  I had no idea about that.

• 37:04Annie Elise?

  Yeah. Wild.

• 37:06Speaker 04

  That is wild. And Matthew knew this was coming because just hours before his arrest, he was giving interviews, and this, this is what's bizarre.

• 37:14Annie Elise?

  Oh, my God.

• 37:14Speaker 04

  He was giving interviews to media outlets denying involvement with Natalia's death. He claimed that he'd been watching England's World Cup match at an Irish pub before spending the rest of the day walking through a shopping center, buying an ice cream, and returning later to watch more games. He also claimed, get this, that he had been receiving death threats over an unpaid debt. So

• 37:37Annie Elise?

  Okay.

• 37:38Speaker 04

  Few things.

• 37:38Annie Elise?

  Mm hmm.

• 37:39Speaker 04

  Why are media outlets even coming up to him before his arrest? Like, how did they know that he, they were searching for him? So they obviously

• 37:46Annie Elise?

  Maybe it was public knowledge at that point.

• 37:48Speaker 04

  It was an international search. And so he's being interviewed by outlets, but they're still searching for him? That's what I was kind of confused about.

• 37:54Annie Elise?

  Yeah, maybe they still couldn't find him, kind of like even when Caitlin Armstrong went on the run. But yeah, if they're, if he's giving interviews, it's like, hello, obviously you know of the location he's at. Maybe there's something weird with that. But the fact that he's bringing up the unpaid debt, that's what struck me is odd. I'm like, oh, so are you going to say that somebody was af- going after you, but Killed her instead.

• 38:13Speaker 04

  A hundred, yeah, cuz that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, okay, your alibi, you went to a game, you got an ice cream, you're shopping. I would imagine there's plenty of cameras around, there are witnesses, there's receipts.

• 38:25Speaker 04

  Tell us the details of the game. So I feel like you could probably check out that alibi, but what's this unpaid debt? I feel like that's bullshit. So after the announcement of his arrest, people started really, as you could imagine, digging into Matthew's criminal history. So here it is, guys. Court records show that he had only recently been released from prison in the UK after serving more than two years for stalking offenses.

• 38:50Annie Elise?

  And there you go, there's the pattern.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  And even after his release, he was still under a court ordered stalking prevention order that prohibited him from contacting any of his previous victims. It also required him to make regular check-ins to report his address and vehicle information to the police so that they could obviously keep an eye on him and placed also restrictions on his electronics. So I'm like, is that why he then went to another country? Because he was so tightly monitored in the UK. Investigators haven't publicly explained how Matthew and Natalia knew each other or what possibly led up to this attack. But officials in Colombia are very clear that they are going to pursue justice.

• 39:34Speaker 04

  And the city mayor has even gone on to say that this painful case will not go unpunished, which that feels good that they're taking it seriously. But yeah, I'm curious to know if they knew each other or did he follow her? And as someone who does solo traveling and sometimes wants to like cut costs, you get an Airbnb. It's like, those are kind of the reasons I don't, because I like the idea of being in a hotel, even though things happen everywhere. But was he watching her? Cuz she was staying there since June 3rd and this happened on the 18th. So that's two weeks. And if he's a stalker, was he watching her?

• 40:08Annie Elise?

  Maybe she was at the pub watching the game too and he followed her home, who knows? But this is actually, I don't know the details. This is the second suitcase case I've heard about in the last few days. There was another one with an Australian man and I believe, did he kill a seventeen year old girl? It was and put her in a suitcase and they ended up arresting him as well after he, maybe she wasn't seventeen. Again, I don't know the details. You guys probably know more than I do, but I like, these are back to back happening. I'm like, What in the Sarah Boone is going on here? Why are people using suitcases? I don't know. So this next case that we're going to be talking about is one that I know so many of you have been following. We have been following it internally very, very closely. It is so sad and devastating.

• 40:53Annie Elise?

  And I gotta say, pretty shady. Pretty freaking shady. So this next case out of Kentucky basically had everybody glued to their phones for days, looking on social media, scrolling for updates, hoping for a miracle. And what makes this one especially heartbreaking isn't just the fact that 19-year-old Marley Kenny vanished without a trace after spending the day at the lake, or I should say while spending the day at the lake, but it's that her family had documented the search in real time. So as they were getting updates, they were sharing them on social media before any official announcements were being made. And like, everybody was just collectively following this case together.

• 41:36Annie Elise?

  So let me break down what happened, where the red flags are, and where things stand as of now at the time of this recording. So on Wednesday, June 24th, 19-year-old Marley had spent the day on Grayson Lake with a group of her friends. They had rented a pontoon boat, they went out on the lake. It's summertime, having fun, doing their thing. Now, according to early reports, the group had stopped right along the shoreline so that Marley could hop off the boat and use the bathroom. There was some mixed messaging too, that she hopped off the boat and used the bathroom in the water, you know, just peeing in the lake. Then some people saying she hopped onto the actual land to like cop a squat, different reports. But however, the point is, after some time, allegedly, according to the report, early

• 42:21Annie Elise?

  on, everyone got back on board of the pontoon boat and then headed back out onto the lake. But then they realized that Marley was no longer with them. The problem was, nobody could say exactly where she was or where she had last been seen. So after everybody realized that Marley was missing, authorities were notified around 4:00 PM that afternoon. According to investigators, 23-year-old Cameron Conley, the man who was operating this pontoon boat, told the marina staff that nobody could find her. When Kentucky State Police arrived, they then began speaking with Cameron about what had happened. And according to police, they immediately noticed signs that he had been drinking, which...

• 43:04Annie Elise?

  I get not a big surprise. I think like kids who are renting a pontoon boat going out on a lake. You expect there to be drinking. You hope that whoever is operating the boat is not under the influence, but you would expect people to like be drinking beer, listening to music.

• 43:19Speaker 04

  I mean, my first question was, is there drinking? But then I'm like, obviously there will be.

• 43:22Annie Elise?

  So the investigators reported smelling alcohol on him and also saying that he had bloodshot eyes. So I mean, he was intoxicated. So they asked him if he had been drinking and Cameron allegedly said that he had been drinking and he agreed to take a breathalyzer test. Now, the results came back. The results were a point one, three, seven percent, which is well above the legal limit of a point oh, eight percent, which that's for operating any kind of vehicle, boat, car, fucking scooter. I don't know. You name it. So he was clearly wasted. Then by about 5:30 that evening, Cameron ended up being arrested and he was charged with operating

• 44:04Annie Elise?

  a boat under the influence. Now investigators were very careful to point out that the boating under the influence charge was separate from Marley's disappearance because at that point, they still had no idea what was going on, where Marley was, who, if anyone else was responsible, if it was accidental, but they knew that he had been operating this boat while drunk. So what investigators did know during all of this was that they had a major problem here. People had been drinking. People's memory was foggy. The group couldn't tell them exactly where Marley had last gotten off the boat, which that would make the search incredibly challenging if you don't even have an area necessarily of like where to begin when you're

• 44:45Annie Elise?

  searching like this huge lake and deep waters and all of these things. And you have like what? These drunk kids who can't remember where they were, were partying, probably didn't even like think to clock where they were at.

• 44:58Speaker 04

  When they had to go to the bathroom, I just have to go now.

• 45:00Annie Elise?

  Yeah, we're just gonna pull it over. Yeah, exactly. The lake looks the same everywhere. You know, who knows? So instead of having one specific area to search, they now knew that they needed to start piecing together her last known movements. So within hours. Kentucky State Police, Kentucky Fish and Wildlife, local first responders, and specialized search and rescue teams launched a massive search operation. Divers went into the water, helicopters flew overhead, thermal drones scanned the shoreline, canine teams searched the surrounding wooded areas, boats were also on the lake combing through the water, and investigators also started reviewing phone data and other digital

• 45:41Annie Elise?

  evidence, just really hoping to narrow down a timeline as to where Marley may have last been seen, when the timestamp was, the last photo taken, anything that could help them start to build out this timeline. And as the search grew, with that, so did public attention. Around noon the next day on June 25th, Marley's sister Willow shared on her own Facebook post to spread awareness about Marley being missing. She said that Marley had now been missing for almost 20 hours. She also asked people not to spread rumors or any sort of misinformation. She wanted only legit facts being spread. She didn't want it to impede on the investigation, she wanted to find her sister.

• 46:23Annie Elise?

  Search crews were doing everything that they could, but at this point, it's like, hello, the family needed facts, not speculation. That certainly was not going to help, right? So Willow shared every identifying detail that she could think of, hoping that someone had seen Marley. She said that Marley was last seen wearing a pink and orange strapless bikini and was also, quote, "likely to have no shoes." She also said that Marley wore gold jewelry, usually had on a gold cross necklace, and she even shared as many photos of Marley's tattoos as she could find, just any identifiable type markers, right? Meanwhile, investigators continued trying to piece together what had happened that afternoon.

• 47:03Annie Elise?

  And at this point, they were covering a massive area of nearly, I think it was like 1,500 acres of this like vast lake, and again, using helicopters, drones, sonar equipment, boats, divers, canines, off-road vehicles, crews on foot, anything they could, but like, hello, a 1,500 acre lake? Massive. So as the search moved into its second day, Marley's family continued, of course, to hold on to hope. In a statement, they thanked the overwhelming amount of law enforcement officers, first responders, volunteers, and community members who had joined in on the search, saying that they didn't even know how to express their gratitude and that they had faith that the people searching were doing everything that they could do to bring Marley home. But as Thursday

• 47:48Annie Elise?

  turned into Friday, there was still no sign of her. Then, just forty-eight hours after Marley disappeared, her sister Willow made another Facebook post. She said that there still weren't many updates, but she thanked everyone who continued searching, and she said that she hoped that she would have better news to share soon.

• 48:06Speaker 04

  Could you imagine having to like muster up the courage to post those type of updates and just putting together any identifying marker, just that, I like, that's giving me chills because I think, obviously, as a sister, having to do that, and like, you feel that sense of responsibility of obviously trying to help and find, but also updating people.

• 48:25Annie Elise?

  Right. It's awful. So by Saturday morning, the search had become so widespread that people from all over the area were offering to drive to Grayson Lake to help. Willow addressed those messages directly in her post, explaining that investigators were incredibly grateful for their support, but they were asking people not to launch their own searches, saying that extra boats could interfere with the divers who were already in the water, and that people who were walking through the woods could trigger the thermal drones, and that it would just kind of throw a wrench into the investigation, forcing crews to then chase false leads. Even privately flown drones could make law enforcement have to ground their own air searches because of safety regulations.

• 49:07Annie Elise?

  So as much as everybody wanted to help, investigators said that the best thing that people could do was let the search continue. But by Saturday evening, Willow shared another heartbreaking update. Only this one had less to do with the search itself and more to do with the misinformation that had been spreading across social media. She said that she had to step away because she had become overwhelmed by fake videos, accusations, rumors.

• 49:34Annie Elise?

  And complete strangers claiming they knew exactly what had happened. Which honestly, one line from that post really stuck with me. She wrote, quote, "I could care less about how it happened. Who did it right now? I just want her found. I will place the blame later when she is found." Which, to me, that really just showed that while the internet, you know, was doing what the internet does, it was interneting, trying to solve the mystery. Just two days after Marley had disappeared, Marley's family wasn't even thinking about blame yet. They weren't trying to say it was the driver of the boat, or it was the friends who dropped her off or pushed her in the water, because that's some of the rumors that were going around on social media. They were like, "We don't even care who did what, who's responsible, what happened. Just find, we just want to find Marley." You know, that's all they cared about.

• 50:20Annie Elise?

  So then, on the afternoon of June 28th, after almost four days of searching, the update that everyone had hoped would never happen, did happen. Marley had been found deceased in the water. Now, even through the unimaginable grief that her family was now feeling, they thanked every first responder, every diver, every volunteer, and the search team that had spent days searching for Marley. But they also made a final request: Stop speculating. The family said that they would share more details when they were ready, but that until then, they asked people not to spread theories or claim to know how Marley died, calling that kind of speculation disrespectful. As of now, investigators have not publicly announced

• 51:04Annie Elise?

  Marley's official cause and manner of death, and they have not said whether any additional charges are expected. So while the search for Marley has unfortunately come to an end, many of the questions surrounding what happened on Grayson Lake that afternoon still remain unanswered. So I definitely will keep an eye out for updates, and I'm sure there probably will be updates as this episode airs and is published. And I know I spoke to red flags earlier. I don't want to speculate, because I want to honor the family's wishes. So I'm gonna kind of just leave it at that. Let, I want you to form your own conclusions and thoughts, but given the information we have and we know and what transpired, there are a lot of red flags. And-

• 51:50Annie Elise?

  Let's leave it there.

• 51:51Speaker 04

  I was gonna say I have some questions and some thoughts, but I think out of respect for the family like.

• 51:57Annie Elise?

  When they're writing.

• 51:58Speaker 04

  Obviously, they must have information and they want to share it when it's feels right and in the way they want. So I think we should definitely give them that.

• 52:06Annie Elise?

  Yeah, a devastating loss.

• 52:08Speaker 04

  But so sad regardless and you know, obviously just a reminder as we're in summer to be careful.

• 52:15Annie Elise?

  Yeah, I know. Um, okay. So before we go, we should confess to your BFF or ask advice. We, if you haven't listened to one of these episodes in the last few weeks at CrimeCon, we had a phone booth for when the booth was shut down where people could leave a message asking either for advice or confessing to us, which if you confessed to an actual crime, I report, I'm gonna report your ass to the police. But um, we are gonna cycle through these and what do we have today?

• 52:44Speaker 04

  Okay, I don't know. It's labeled by our team as high school.

• 52:48Annie Elise?

  Okay, do I need to put, I'm gonna move the mic down towards the speaker. Okay.

• 52:52Speaker 05

  In high school, I put Nair in my stepsister's shampoo when she ratted me out one night. I thinned it out a little bit, but she was fine.

• 53:04Speaker 04

  Okay, for us, okay, number one, Annie has to thin out her hair.

• 53:10Annie Elise?

  I do, I do. I'm so jealous of her. If you guys follow me on Instagram, first of all, if you don't, you should. It's underscore Annie, uh, at underscore Annie Elise. You know how thick my hair was? Let me just show those who don't follow me on Instagram, a photo that I posted.

• 53:26Speaker 04

  Open that baby up.

• 53:28Annie Elise?

  There you go.

• 53:30Speaker 04

  So for Annie, she'd probably welcome a little surprise Nair treatment. That's not one way I'd get back at you, but if you did that to you, we'd still be in a fight over it.

• 53:39Annie Elise?

  I know, you'd blame me forever. That's kind of diabolical. I get it's your stepsister and that like she ratted you out, but like. And that you know what that is like the cliche though, right? In all the movies they put hair lost stuff in shampoo.

• 53:52Speaker 04

  Or like hair coloring stuff.

• 53:53Annie Elise?

  Yeah, but like, damn, did you ever catch her? Are you guys still friends? Like, where's the follow up here? If this, if you're listening to this, follow up with us, email us at hello at Annie E. Lee's and in the subject put follow up to the Nair story. And I want to know, are you guys still cool? Did you ever tell her about it? Like, what happened?

• 54:11Speaker 04

  Did your parents say?

• 54:12Annie Elise?

  Yeah.

• 54:12Speaker 04

  Did you get in trouble?

• 54:14Annie Elise?

  And like, Nair smells sick nasty.

• 54:16Speaker 04

  I, yeah, I remember like mom telling us that, because I wanted to try it. She'll, it'll peel the wallpaper off the walls. It's so strong.

• 54:24Annie Elise?

  Yeah, mom, you're, mom, the corduroy wallpaper that we had, like, God.

• 54:30Speaker 04

  That must be strong.

• 54:31Annie Elise?

  Yeah, that is, that's a real strong ass shit. All right, guys. Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of Headline Highlights, New York edition. We will be back with you next week on Thursday with another Headline Highlights, but before then, full deep dive, brand new case this last Monday. It's out on the feed right now. And for all of you OGs who have been listening to me for a while or have been following true crime and are familiar with the Harmony Montgomery case, I don't know if you knew this, but Adam Montgomery, her asshat father, the murder conviction has been overturned. And so I did a full deep dive into what that means, not only what that means, but the whole case, which if you aren't familiar with that case, guys,

• 55:13Annie Elise?

  it's so disturbing. I want to warn you. This guy murdered his daughter, disposed of her, carried her body around from place to place, and then disposed of her in a NutriBullet. Okay. So anyways, my point is that case I released on Tuesday on my second true crime channel called 10 to Life for all my podcast listeners. For anybody watching on YouTube, it's right here on the same channel, but you have other cases you can go back and binge right now over the holiday weekend. If you are bored and not doing anything fun and need things to binge, brand new one here on this feed from Monday, which is A batshit crazy one and then the Harmony Montgomery case as well. So they're just between the two feeds. So if you, again, if you're a podcast listener, make sure that you're following

• 55:57Annie Elise?

  both of the podcasts so that you don't miss those new episodes as I post them. Other than that, I will be back with you on Monday with an all new case. I hope you all have a very safe holiday weekend. For those of you who are celebrating the 4th of July, I know a lot of listeners are international, but have a safe weekend. Do not drive boat or do anything well intoxicated and watch your back and CJ, I love you. Travel safely. Yeah, travel safely. Alright guys, thanks so much. Bye.

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