364: Warning: Absolutely BARBARIC! | Sex Ring Cult & Murder Scheme? The “Family” Murders

In Adelaide, South Australia, a shadowy group preyed on teenage boys and young men during the late 1970s and early 1980s, leaving a trail of mutilated bodies and unanswered questions. They came to be known as "The Family", a loosely connected network suspected of abduction, abuse, and murder. Five young men, some barely teenagers, were killed in ways so brutal and calculated that the city still remembers them in horror. Despite decades passing, DNA reviews, and multi-million-dollar rewards, the truth about who was involved and why may never be fully uncovered…. If you’re new here, don’t forget to follow the show for weekly deep dives into the darkest true crime cases! To watch the video version of this episode, head over to youtube.com/@annieelise. .🔎Join Our True Crime Club & Get Exclusive Content & Perks..🎧 Need More to Binge? Listen to both of my weekly true crime series 10 to Life & Serialously with Annie Elise wherever you get your podcasts on the Annie Elise Channel!🍎 Apple Podcasts | Where you can also unlock access to 100+ and growing extra exclusive deep dives.💚 Spotify🔴 YouTube🎙️ All Other Platforms.📸 Follow Annie on Socials Instagram: @_annieeliseTikTok: @_annieeliseSubstack: @annieeliseFacebook: @10toLife.👗 Shop Annie’s Must-Haves! ShopMY: bit.ly/AnnieElise_ShopMy Amazon: bit.ly/AnnieElise_Amazon.🫵🏻 Get Involved or Recommend a CaseAbout Annie: www.annieelise.comFor Business Inquiries: [email protected].📚 Episode Sources Museum of Australian Democracy | Netk.net.au | Real Crime | SHADOW PRODUCTIONS | Skin Deep Blog | Sky News Australia | State Library South Australia | Studio 10 | True Crime Fix | Unresolved. Me | Wikipedia | Webkinz Wate Blog••••••••••••••••••🚨Disclaimers1️⃣ Some links may be affiliate links, they do not cost you anything, but I make a small percentage from the sale. Thank you so much for watching and supporting me. 2️⃣ Sources used to collect this information include various public news sites, interviews, court documents, FB groups dedicated to the case, and various news channel segments. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember my videos are my independent opinion and to always do your own research. 3️⃣ The views and opinions expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. Assumptions made in the analysis are not reflective of the position of any entity other than the creator(s). These views are subject to change, revision, and rethinking at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. We make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the reader’s responsibility to verify their own facts.

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• 1:26Speaker 03

  From the early 70s to the mid 80s, up to 150 boys and young men were abducted, drugged and raped. They're hitchhiking or they're just lured into the car or thrown into the car forcibly. They're held captive. They are sexually tortured. And that's what we're dealing with, with the family murders in Adelaide.

• 1:46Speaker 04

  I said, what do you want to happen? She said, what I've been wanting all the way through. I need to be able to find out who else killed my brother. Who else killed these other boys? And that's what I'm putting the call out for now.

• 2:01Annie Elise?

  Hey, true crime besties. Welcome back to an all new episode of Serial Sleep.

• 2:24Annie Elise?

  Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to an all new episode of Serialist Lee. With me, your host, Annie E. Lees, here to go into another deep dive of a case with you today. And this is a wild one. So whatever you're doing, whether you're driving to work, cleaning your house, working out, just, you know, listening at your house while you're sitting on a chair, wherever you're at, get ready, because this one is definitely going to take us on a whirlwind of a roller coaster. I don't even know if that makes sense, but that's where it's going to take us. Because today's case is one that is pretty well-known across all of Australia, but it isn't really talked about much in the United States. And

• 3:05Annie Elise?

  that's really wild, given how truly shocking it is. Now, for decades, it has haunted the city of Adelaide, South Australia, a place that is really known for its beauty, its sunny beach town vibes, but also for this very dark history of horrifying murders. And we're talking multiple victims, okay? Layers of mystery, whispers about corruption, kidnapping, torture, even surgical mutilation, okay? All tied to this secret circle of very wealthy, very well-connected men. I want you to just for a moment, think Diddy meets Epstein, like worst nightmare ever, right? What nightmares are truly made from? Maybe even throw in

• 3:48Annie Elise?

  a little Eyes Wide Shut kind of vibe, but powerful men, dark secrets, and horrors that most people could never imagine. So today, we are talking about the Family Murders, a network accused of preying on very vulnerable victims, sharing twisted sexual fetishes, and conspiring in abuse and murder. Yet despite the brutality of it all, only one man was ever convicted. And he still, to this day, swears he is innocent. Now, who were the others? How did they stay hidden for decades? And was there a cover up to protect those impacted? Power, those powerful men in high places. Even if part of these allegations are true,

• 4:30Annie Elise?

  the most dangerous men in this case might very well still be free. So by the end of this episode, you'll probably have your own theory about what the truth is. And I'll let you decide just how far you think this conspiracy really went. So let's get into it. Today, I'm taking you back to the late 70s, early 80s in Adelaide, South Australia. Now, from what I can tell, Adelaide during this time saw a lot of social and political change. In 1975, history in the area was made. South Australia, which included Adelaide, had officially decriminalized homosexuality. So as a result, a lot of people felt liberated, like maybe they no longer needed to hide part of themselves, right? There was also an influx of gay bars and gay clubs

• 5:14Annie Elise?

  that just began popping up almost immediately after the decriminalization. These were safe spaces for a lot of people, places where they felt like maybe everything would be okay, even if it was just for a short period of time. But what they didn't know was that there were people who were potentially taking advantage of these safe spaces. It was Saturday, June 16, 1979, and 17-year-old Alan Barnes was described by those closest to him as being witty, youthful, and quick on his feet, especially when it came to being sarcastic or making a funny joke. And he seemed like an all-around likable guy. So that night, he was spending the night at a friend's house. And Alan also wasn't a stranger to dabbling with drugs or alcohol here and there.

• 5:58Annie Elise?

  Again, this is the 70s that we're talking about. So that night, the two guys set out to have a night of fun. They drank a little, they smoked some weed. But what happened the rest of the night is still up for debate. The belief is that they pre-gamed at Alan's friend's house. Then they went out to the local gay bars. Although I have to say, that part has been heavily debated. There are some witnesses who said that they saw Alan there that night, but some witnesses recalled seeing Alan and another guy there that night. Then, some people said that they never saw Alan or his friend at all. So a lot of mixed opinions and a lot of mixed witness statements. And as we know, sometimes eyewitness reports aren't always the most credible. It's important to note that there aren't any actual police reports either verifying that they were ever there or not.

• 6:42Annie Elise?

  Only these witness accounts. So again, take that information however you will, but the idea of them being there will certainly make more sense later on. That is, if it's true, of course. So regardless of what they got up to that night, Alan ended up crashing at his friend's house. And when they woke up, they decided that they would go back to Alan's house for the day. I'm assuming both of them either didn't have cars or they didn't have access to their cars. I'm unsure. Now, the reason I say that is because Alan and his friend had tried hitchhiking on the main road, but they weren't having any luck. It also didn't take them very long to realize like, hey, people probably aren't picking us up because we're together. They're probably intimidated by two guys. You're not going to let two guys just come into your car. Even though hitchhiking was very popular at the time and it was pretty common.

• 7:27Annie Elise?

  Of course, people would have some sort of reservations about picking up two people together, you know? Who knows what they are capable of if they could overpower you? I mean, just letting two young men into your car could, like I said, be a recipe for disaster. So they decided to split up. They figured that they would both get picked up and get rides quicker that way and that they would just meet back at Alan's. But what Alan's friend didn't realize at that moment was that it was going to be the last time that he ever saw Alan alive. The friend got to Alan's house pretty quickly. The road they were hitchhiking on was pretty busy and it was also the middle of the day. So there was tons of traffic and he got picked up and then dropped off at Alan's. But Alan wasn't back yet. His friend had seemingly beat him to his house.

• 8:10Annie Elise?

  Now, at first it was almost kind of funny. I mean, I guess Alan had been a little hesitant to hitchhike separately as it was. So his friend had kind of just laughed it off like, oh, poor Alan. He must not have been trying too hard. He was intimidated by it like he'll get here when he gets here. But then 30 minutes passed, then an hour, then two hours. And still Alan hadn't shown up, which was now very, very weird. When his friend had hitched a ride, it had only taken minutes. And hypothetically, they were close enough that when they started hitchhiking, they could have just walked the rest of the way to Alan's. And it probably would have just taken a long time, but it certainly was possible. You could get There eventually, but Alan never showed up. His parents were concerned enough that the following morning, they decided to get the police involved.

• 8:52Annie Elise?

  Now, even though this was again, the seventies and parenting was a little more lax. Alan's parents knew that they could always depend on him to either be home before dark or call and let them know where he was if he wasn't going to be home before dark. Remember, he was seventeen years old. He had a curfew. He listened to his parents. He followed the rules and the fact that his friend was also saying like, he should have been right behind me. That's enough to worry anyone. But as far as I can tell, the investigators didn't seem to take his disappearance seriously at first. It was almost kind of like, okay, what? A teen boy is missing? Yeah, right. He's probably off somewhere, just like partying, having the time of his life, just like doing what a teenage kid does. So assuming that it was just some sort of miscommunication between Alan and his parents,

• 9:36Annie Elise?

  the investigators began working to get in contact with Alan's friends, waiting for one of them to maybe just crack and admit that Alan was truly with them. But call after call, each friend said that they hadn't heard or seen him. And it was at that point that the detectives knew that something was really wrong here. But again, it was the seventies, so there weren't security cameras everywhere or cellphone footage of people. All they really had to work with was potential eyewitness accounts. And remember, Alan had gone missing in broad daylight on a busy road. So the police felt like there was no way that someone hadn't seen something. And sure enough, they ended up being right. Plenty of people recalled seeing a younger guy with blonde hair identical to Alan's

• 10:18Annie Elise?

  description, just walking on the side of the road that day. Now, I will say, most eyewitness accounts only confirmed that he had been in the area, but they didn't really add anything to the search. That was until one person came forward saying that they actually had seen who they believed was Alan getting into somebody's car that day. They, of course, didn't think anything of it until much later when they realized that Alan was missing. But this witness who had come forward was actually able to recall a lot, or at least as much as you possibly could remember when you saw someone for a split second while driving past them. But they recalled that Alan was getting into a white Holden sedan. They also recalled that it wasn't just the driver who was in the car, but multiple other people.

• 11:01Annie Elise?

  They weren't able to recall much about any of the people who were inside that car, though. They couldn't even guess genders, what clothes they were wearing, not really anything at all, which, again, I get it. If you were to ask me what shirt someone on the side of the road was wearing, and I wasn't really paying much attention to them, I just saw them in passing, I probably couldn't accurately remember it either. So even though it seemed like this tip was really useful, it unfortunately hadn't gotten the investigators very far. The police tried to keep an eye out for any similar vehicles, but it was pretty much a dead end. And since the witnesses couldn't even describe what the driver looked like, searching for people who fit that description wasn't even an option. So days began to pass, and Alan never came home.

• 11:44Annie Elise?

  His family was absolutely worried sick. And even though he liked to dabble in, you know, less approved things, like smoking weed and drinking, he was still a good kid. He wouldn't have just ran off. Then, just one week after Alan disappeared, there was a huge discovery in his missing persons case. But it wasn't the kind of discovery that anyone was hoping for. A body was found in the South Paro Reservoir. It was this outdoorsy area, and the body had been found by hikers. But here's the thing. The body was in a really, really rough condition. It was so bad that the hikers didn't even think that it was a body at first. It wasn't until they got up super close and they realized

• 12:27Annie Elise?

  that what they were looking at was a human being. This person had been badly, badly beaten. I mean, that much was easy to identify. But what's even worse was that the body was heavily mutilated and had undoubtedly been dumped from a higher area due to the body's limbs, arms, and legs just being contorted. Hence why the hikers didn't even think that it was a body at first. That's how unnatural it looked. Now, the investigators couldn't conclude that it was Alan just by looking at the body. They knew that he was missing, and they knew that he had disappeared under sketchy circumstances, but they couldn't verify just by looking at him. And as much as it breaks my heart to say this, it ended up being Alan's dad and grandpa,

• 13:10Annie Elise?

  who ended up identifying his remains. They were able to say with certainty that it was Alan. Which, seeing a deceased loved one, even at a funeral, after they have been carefully laid to rest, and it looks, you know, like they're just taking a nap, they're in perfect shape, no damage, no bruises, no markings, that's hard enough. I can't even begin to imagine the trauma that Alan's family members had to endure when identifying him and seeing his body in this state. So needless to say, this missing persons case, it very quickly turned into a homicide investigation. There was also no hiding what had happened from the community. The media went absolutely nuts. Now honestly, I'm not even sure what to call the media sensations surrounding Alan's death.

• 13:53Annie Elise?

  I mean, fear mongering, maybe, senseless profiting off of a local tragedy, possibly. I guess it really just depends on who you ask. But get this, one of the most historical and notable things about Alan's death in particular, is that there were some very graphic images that were posted on the front page of the local newspaper, images showing the detectives carrying away his body. And even if the media wasn't trying to scare the community, everybody was panicking, understandably so too. This was a horrible, horrible murder, and they didn't even know all of the full gory details. All they knew was that Alan had gone missing, and then his body had been found, and he had been badly mutilated and beaten.

• 14:34Annie Elise?

  But the reality of all of it, it was so much worse. For starters, Alan's death? It wasn't something we often see or talk about. He had died from major blood loss, not from a stab wound or a gunshot wound, but major blood loss from an anal injury. The injury had come from a very large blunt object, which was believed to have caused internal perforations, then leading to extreme blood loss. Which, think about that for a moment. Imagine getting a cut, or a contusion, or even a stab wound or a gunshot, and it being so bad that the blood loss is so massive that that's what you die from.

• 15:15Annie Elise?

  In Alan's case, it was because there was such rectal damage that he lost so much blood from that wound, and that is what ultimately killed him. Which is really just not even a fancy way, it's just kind of, you know, a sideways way of saying that he was literally sexually assaulted until it physically killed him. But that wasn't the only thing that the investigators were able to identify and theorize. The detectives believed that Alan had been kidnapped, more than likely by those very people who had offered him a ride when he was hitchhiking. So when they got the tox report back, in Alan's system, they found something called chloral hydrate, which at the time was commonly found in a prescription drug called Noctec.

• 15:57Annie Elise?

  And Noctec was advertised as being a very harmless drug for people with sleep issues. But like any drug, if it's overused, it could easily knock someone out and keep them knocked out for an extended period of time. During the postmortem exam and autopsy, the examiner was also able to identify that before Alan's body was dumped, it was washed. Someone intentionally cleaned him. And we can assume that this was done by the perpetrator, or perpetrators, so that they could get rid of any DNA evidence that could potentially have been left on the body and then later traced back to them. But very calculated, very strategic. And lastly, we have to talk about how the body was found. The investigators believe that Alan's body was dumped postmortem, which honestly is

• 16:42Annie Elise?

  really, really unfortunate, because if it was done while he was still alive, it probably would have been a pretty quick and painless death, especially compared to what had really killed him. The area where Alan's body was found was underneath the bridge, and there was a very narrow strip of water underneath the bridge, which is where the investigators believe Alan's killer had intended to dump his body. But because the part where the water flowed through was so narrow, the killer missed the mark, and the body ended up hitting the ground near the water. Which again, that all makes sense, given how mangled Alan's remains were and how contorted all of his legs and arms were. And it's kind of scary to think that if his remains had landed in the water, they could have ended up anywhere. Or-

• 17:25Annie Elise?

  Maybe they never would have even been found, who knows? So the investigators began treating Alan's murder as a homicide. And they concluded that what was done to Alan, it seemed way too personal to be done by a random stranger. However, not everybody was agreeing with that. Maybe he had gotten into the car with random strangers because he was hitchhiking just down the road and, again, was completely normal to do back then. I mean, it's also what he and his friend had set out to do. Or maybe he had gotten into the car that he was last seen getting into because he knew the driver or passengers. The detectives were looking for anyone that Alan was in contact with in his personal life, whether it was close friendships, acquaintances, whatever. It did not matter. Specifically, they were looking for any of those people who drove the same kind of

• 18:10Annie Elise?

  vehicle that he was last seen getting into. I mean, that should be fairly easy to sort through, right? Well, it really wasn't. But the investigators quickly stuck a pin in that search because just two days after Alan's body was found, the detectives received an anonymous call from someone who apparently had a tip. And this tip wasn't something more miniscule like, "I saw Alan with this person the day before his murder," or "Alan and this person didn't get along." No, no, no. It was much deeper and darker than that. This caller claimed that they knew the identity of Alan's killer and that they were more than happy to share that information. And they said that his alleged killer was a man named Bevan Spencer Von Einem.

• 18:53Annie Elise?

  So the investigators decided to briefly look into Bevan, even though they couldn't find any obvious connections between him and Alan. And Bevan had no issues talking with the investigators, and he claimed that there wasn't really much to say. He didn't know Alan, he didn't know who killed Alan, and besides, he was a gay man. How could he be a murderer? Which, yes, you heard me right. That was his argument, saying, "I'm a gay man, how could I be a murderer?" And believe it or not, the detectives were apparently like, "Oh yeah, you're right. That totally makes sense. You couldn't be a murderer." So he literally used his sexuality as a reason that he couldn't have committed murder. And somehow, the investigators just believed it and let it slide. Now, what's interesting is that from the very beginning, police seemed locked in on

• 19:36Annie Elise?

  the idea that Alan's killing was personal, even after that tip came in suggesting otherwise. So they kept digging into Alan's circle, looking for someone close to him who could have done it. But lead after lead went nowhere. And then, before they could make any real progress, another young man from the area turned up dead. And with that, this case took an even darker turn.

• 20:05Annie Elise?

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• 21:28Annie Elise?

  Only two months after Alan had turned up brutally murdered, the police forces of Adelaide found themselves investigating not just one brutal homicide, but two. It was August 28, 1979, and it was early morning when two fishermen had left home, said goodbye to their families, and headed to work along the Portside River. Now, for them, a rough day usually meant bad weather or staying out late, you know, not stumbling across human remains. And at first, all they saw were a few black garbage bags. So maybe it was just a gut feeling, or maybe they were just experienced enough to know that nobody dumped trash. In that area unless they were trying to conceal something. But for whatever reason, they decided to get closer to these bags. First, they started just poking them.

• 22:14Annie Elise?

  Then they started peeking inside. And once they did, they immediately called the police because they knew that what they were looking at was once a person, despite how once again mangled and mutilated the body looked. And I say person because just like Alan, this body was not easily recognizable. And honestly, it was even in worse shape than Alan's body had been in. In each of the garbage bags, this person had been cut up into many, many different pieces. In one bag was their torso and stomach area. And this is absolutely horrifying, but the stomach area had been cut open. And inside the body where their internal organs should have been, where their arms and legs also cut up so that it would fit inside that stomach area.

• 22:59Annie Elise?

  In another bag was this person's head. And it had been tied together with the rest of the remains by using a rope. And all over this person's body, there were these weird pieces of flesh that had been literally cut out. Now, at first, the detectives were confused. Why were there so many random spots that were cut off of this person? Did this have some sort of significance? Who would be cutting human flesh off of them? Well, sure enough, it did have significance. Because in one of the other bags, they found the pieces of cut up flesh. And they realized that those markings had once been tattoos. Meaning whoever had killed this person had purposefully cut those pieces off of their body, more than likely hoping that they would never be identified.

• 23:44Annie Elise?

  Now, of course, and luckily, these bags were found essentially right next to each other. So if that had been the plan, it definitely backfired. I'm assuming that they hoped that the bags would make it into the water and that they would either drift apart, maybe even sink, something. But clearly was not expecting them to all be next to each other. So it took some work, but they did eventually identify the victim. And his name was Neil Muir. He was 25 years old at the time of his death. Now, as for Neil. He was someone whose lifestyle was pretty looked down upon. Apparently, he had a pretty bad drug addiction, which because of that, he could never hold down a job or stay in one place for too long. He also lived a bit of a transient lifestyle. He was always moving around.

• 24:30Annie Elise?

  He was apparently well-known in the area for being a sex worker and kind of just had this very mobile, loose lifestyle. Now, right away, the investigators had to question if maybe Neil and Alan's deaths, could it all be connected, right? But to be honest, they weren't so sure because remember, they were confident that Alan's death was personal. So that kind of complicates adding another victim to the list. Not to mention Alan and Neil, they just did not really have much in common. So it didn't seem like these two people could really just fit one person's MO. But the detectives did have to admit that two bodies showing up within months of each other, both brutally murdered and mutilated? This was kind of a red flag. And when Neil's remains were examined for any kind of evidence or cause of death,

• 25:14Annie Elise?

  the investigators were left stunned. Because Neil had died of the exact same injuries that Alan died from. Major blood loss from an anal injury. So in no world at all could this have been a coincidence. It was calculated. This had to be the same person. Or, so you'd think. Because from what I can tell, it seems like the investigators were still not connecting the two deaths at this point. And just like with Alan, the detectives came up with what they thought was a reasonable explanation for why someone would have murdered Neil. It didn't take long for them to figure out that he had those drug and alcohol problems. So it made sense to them that he had probably just pissed off some drug dealer or owed money to somebody.

• 25:57Annie Elise?

  And they were so confident about this being a possibility that they made it very well-known to the public. And well, yeah, sure, I guess that's possible. I just don't see how the very specific anal injuries to both victims weren't a giant red freaking flag. So even though the investigators were looking into Neil's background, they were trying to find out why two people, Alan and Neil, who seemingly had nothing in common, had become victims in two separate brutal crimes and as it turned out Alan and Neil may have had more in common than initially thought you see there were some potential questions about Neil's sexuality the weekend before Neil's body turned up witnesses claimed to have seen him at two different gay bars

• 26:41Annie Elise?

  in the area and remember witnesses also claimed to have seen Alan out at the gay bars in town the night before he went missing and there was even more that connected the two of them the authorities just didn't realize it until it was quite literally sitting right in front of them while the investigators were looking into Neil's murder they were still trying to figure out what happened to Alan and even though Bevan that guy who that random tipster claimed was Alan's killer had already been interviewed the police were still open to the idea that he was somehow involved in all of this and they really also had nothing else to work with so they interviewed Bevan again maybe hoping that something would be different this time maybe he would slip up and admit to knowing more about Alan's

• 27:22Annie Elise?

  case or knowing Neil somehow and this time he wasn't even interested in talking about Alan instead he specifically asked the investigators about Neil and this really threw them off because they hadn't at this point even mentioned Neil and they weren't even planning on mentioning it until they got what they needed out of him so the fact that he was kind of like inquiring about Neil and about the investigation into his murder it was strange to say the least and when the detectives basically said the exact same thing Bevan admitted that he honestly was just curious about any updates in the case because he had in fact known Neil not just known him but he admitted that he and Neil were once lovers and that's not

• 28:07Annie Elise?

  all he said either apparently their relationship was years before and they lost contact after things ended however he claimed that they had reconnected just days before Neil's body was found and guess where they were hanging out none other than at those gay bars so now we have Alan and Neil both last seen out at these bars both being murdered in a very brutal and very specific way which in my opinion Seems like a dig at the fact that they were both potentially gay men. The fact that it was blood loss from an anal injury. We also then have somebody calling in saying, hey, here's your killer. Here's your killer on a silver platter. It's Bevan and he also happened to coincidentally know Neil. They used to be lovers.

• 28:51Annie Elise?

  Like, it seems like the stars are aligning, right? And I really cannot wrap my head around that many connections not being a giant red flag. And even though the detectives were kind of like, yeah, that is pretty crazy. They still let Bevan go. They didn't think much else of it. And that's because they were looking into another theory. Someone else in the area who had potentially killed Neil. A man named Dr. Peter Milhouse. Now, to be fair, there were a lot of things that made this other suspect look suspicious. Dr. Milhouse was someone who Neil's friends believed he did have a relationship with. Even if it wasn't sexual or intimate, he apparently was someone who supplied Neil and his friends with prescription pills.

• 29:33Annie Elise?

  There's also the fact that the witnesses claimed that Neil and this, you know, Dr. Milhouse were together the weekend before Neil's death. Now, despite Dr. Milhouse denying that he ever had an actual relationship with Neil, he was eventually arrested and charged with Neil's murder. The investigators were pretty confident that they had the right guy and that Alan's case was just completely separate from Neil's. Which, this might seem like I'm jumping ahead a bit, but trust me, I will get back to Alan's case in just a minute here. So, Dr. Milhouse ends up being arrested and charged with Neil's murder. But he was found not guilty at his trial. I guess there wasn't enough hard evidence and there was just way too much circumstantial evidence. So, he ended up walking away a free man.

• 30:14Annie Elise?

  And actually, he died not too long ago in a nursing home after having lived a very long, very eventful life. The point being that despite all of the efforts from law enforcement at the time, they were soon right back to where they started. With the dead end on Dr. Milhouse, they had absolutely no answers as to who had killed Neil. And they were still just as clueless as to who had murdered Alan. And I want to choose my words very carefully when I say this because I'm sure that it was really difficult to investigate these cases and the killer or killers had definitely... Gone through the trouble of making sure that there wouldn't be anything that led back to them. Washing the body, disposing of the body, the evidence, all of those things. However, just from looking at the research,

• 30:57Annie Elise?

  it does seem to me at least like these investigators were kind of stuck on their own theories at more than one point in this. Again, it was this whole idea of Alan's killer being a friend or acquaintance, that it had to have been somebody more personal and close to him. And Dr. Milhouse ended up being the one and only suspect in Neil's case. And for whatever reason, they just refused to believe that these two murders were connected, even though the similarities between the two, I mean, they were undeniable. And this is all just my interpretation, okay? Maybe there was a lot going on behind the scenes that's not really talked about here. But all I know is that two men were killed under the exact same circumstances, not too far apart from each other. And these two men, one of whom was a child,

• 31:42Annie Elise?

  were sadly only to be the first of many. Because by 1981, two years after Alan and Neil's murders, it happened again. 14-year-old Peter Stognath hadn't even lived much of his life yet. He was really into music, but he was still so young. He hadn't really figured out what all of his interests or future life goals looked like, or what, you know, he was really passionate about. He, of course, also at 14, still lived at home with his parents in a suburb of Adelaide. And on August 27th, 1981, Peter was doing something that he had never done before. His friends had convinced him to skip school with them, and being a normal teenager, he was all for it. The funny thing is, they had only gone to a local mall.

• 32:24Annie Elise?

  It's not like they had skipped school to do some like big grandiose thing. They just went out and hung at the mall for a few hours. But it was almost like they wanted to just say that they had skipped school rather than do it for any particular reason. And they actually had pulled it off. Peter hid his backpack before heading out, just in case his parents got home before him. But they hadn't, so it wasn't a big deal. And by the time that Peter got home, he was just so excited from successfully pulling the whole thing off, that he kind of just wanted to keep the good vibes going. So he told his friend Daniel to meet him at a Another mall. Now, when Daniel arrived, he thought maybe he had just gotten there before Peter, because Peter wasn't there yet. But Peter never showed up. Apparently, Daniel didn't really think much of it. He figured that Peter had just changed his mind, maybe

• 33:08Annie Elise?

  his parents came home and stopped him, something like that. But when Peter's parents got home from work that day, and the house was empty, they knew that something was wrong. When the police got involved, they really didn't have much to go on. They had witnesses claiming that they saw Peter at the mall that day, and specifically had seen him at the mall with an older man, but they couldn't really give a solid description of who he was with. Also couldn't really say what time he was there, nothing. And very quickly, the case went cold. Then, eventually, one whole year after Peter first went missing, his remains were found. And here's the thing, before I even get into the details of his remains, we know that the investigators felt confident that Alan, Neil, and Peter's deaths were

• 33:52Annie Elise?

  all separate. They didn't believe that this was the work of one specific person, or that there was a deranged serial killer out on the loose in the town. They thought that these were all isolated individual incidents. Now, Alan and Neil's bodies were dumped by bodies of water. But Peter's remains, those had been dumped on a large piece of farmland, and eventually, they had been found by the owner of the property. Now, unfortunately, Peter's remains had accidentally been tampered with. You see, the farmer was just kind of out-clearing his land, burning old crops in preparation for the new ones, which is not an uncommon practice. But what he hadn't realized was that this young 14-year-old boy's remains were on the piece of the land that was being burned. So by the time he

• 34:35Annie Elise?

  found the remains and called the police, Peter's body was so badly burnt that it was really difficult to identify, let alone figure out a solid cause of death or any other information. But the one thing that the investigators were able to discover was that, just like Neil, Peter's body had been cut up into many pieces. And I think had they been able to do a proper autopsy, and had the results potentially shown that he died the exact same way as Alan and Neil, maybe things could have been But unfortunately, that just wasn't the case. Peter's death got the least amount of coverage compared to the other two. And because of the lack of evidence to connect it to either Alan or Neil,

• 35:17Annie Elise?

  his murder was also treated as a complete separate entity. And the investigation essentially went nowhere. But sadly, we are not finished. Because in between when Peter had gone missing and when his body was found, yet another young man in the area had gone missing and had been found dead.

• 35:43Annie Elise?

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• 36:28Annie Elise?

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• 36:47Annie Elise?

  His name was Mark Langley, and he was around Alan's age. He was only 18 years old. He was described as being athletic, good-looking, and somebody who could build a good rapport with just about anyone. So on the night of February 27, 1982, Mark had been out with some friends. They were just driving around town, you know, seeing what they could get into. But then they started arguing with one another about cigarettes. Now, what about them? I honestly don't know. But this is something- Mark's friend would later recall just remembering how dumb the entire thing really was. But it didn't seem dumb at the time because the argument got heated enough that Mark told them, yo, stop the car and let me out of here. After dropping him off, Mark's friends only got a few minutes down the road before having the realization of like,

• 37:32Annie Elise?

  yo, this is really stupid. So they decided to swing back around and pick him back up. But by the time they went back to the very spot where Mark had gotten out, he was gone. Now in 2025, maybe that would be kind of concerning. Maybe not, though. I mean, Ubers exist, taxis are a big thing. You know, there are a lot of options. Cell phones where you can call somebody else to come pick you up. But in 1982, it's a bit of a different story. Still, they had just figured that he had already gotten another ride home, not interested in being around them any longer. So they went on with their night, not really thinking anything of it. But Mark's parents were pretty concerned. They let it slide that Mark never came home on the night of the 27th. But the next day, when he still hadn't come home,

• 38:13Annie Elise?

  they decided that the only thing to do, the only thing they felt like they could do was call the police. And I'll be honest, all throughout this case, I'm having a really difficult time not questioning the police. I truly am. Because according to an archived article on unresolved, the police just weren't worried about it. They figured Mark's an 18-year-old. There probably was just some miscommunication between him and his parents. He's probably just out. He's fine. And I get that to an extent, but also all of these young guys who start off as missing, end up being found brutally murdered. And you're not going to think anything of that? You're not going to be overly cautious? It wasn't until after the police started reaching out to all of Mark's friends,

• 38:56Annie Elise?

  who confirmed that they hadn't seen or heard from him since he literally vanished into the night, that they were kind of like, huh, well, maybe this is an issue, just like in Alan's case. And by this time, it had been a full day since Mark had last been seen. So all the investigators had to work with was his last location, which really did not help with the search at all. Especially if he decided to hitchhike and get into somebody's vehicle. I mean, he could have been anywhere at this point. Then, nine days after Mark went missing. The search was over, not because he came back home, not because it really was all one big misunderstanding, just like the investigators had hoped for, but because his body had been found and his body had also been mutilated and was in very bad shape. Now, unlike Peter,

• 39:41Annie Elise?

  whose discovery raised more questions than answers, Mark's autopsy and medical examination were really thorough. It's believed that just like Alan and just like Neil, he was killed somewhere else and then he was taken to this place where his body was dumped. And remember how the medical examiner was able to identify that Alan's body had been washed postmortem? Well, it turns out that Mark's body also had been cleaned. They were also able to discover a definitive cause of death. Mark died from massive blood loss from an anal injury. So now you have three different young men, all living in the same area, all found in the same general area, all with the exact same cause of death. Now, the thing that differed the most from Alan

• 40:26Annie Elise?

  and Neil's bodies, because remember, Peter's body still hadn't been found at this point, this was in between that gap, the biggest differentiation was that there was an incision on his abdomen. He had not been cut all the way open like Neil, but it almost looked like he had gone through surgery. It was a fairly small incision and the area where they found that incision had been freshly shaved. It was even stitched back together with staples and medical-grade Johnson & Johnson surgical tape. So, very, very specific. And this is very graphic, I just want to warn you, but the only theory that they've ever been able to come up with is that maybe whatever object Mark was sexually assaulted with had gotten stuck in one of his

• 41:08Annie Elise?

  internal organs and that the only way to remove it, therefore removing the murder weapon, was to open him up and push it out from a different angle, which I know, it is really graphic stuff that we're dealing with here.

• 41:21Speaker 06

  That was very, very frightening. And they said, we found a body up there towards Mount Loftywa. I would believe it's Mark. I had to sit down and tell my other daughters that their brother wasn't coming up. And that was really hot.

• 41:43Annie Elise?

  So we have Mark's death in February of 1982. Peter's body found in October of 1982. Then, for an entire year, things go very quiet. No more young men or boys vanishing into thin air, only to then be found months and months later. And it really seemed like the killer, or killers, if you know, you choose to believe that none of these deaths were related, seemed to be dormant. That is, until the winter months of 1983. I've seen some mixed dates on exactly when it was. One source said that it was June 5th, another said that it was sometime in July. But remember, winter in Australia runs from June to August. So regardless, it was around this time that the town of Adelaide was yet again struck with tragedy.

• 42:28Annie Elise?

  And it's worth mentioning that at this point, none of the other deaths had been solved. The community was still fearful, and I think a lot of people really began to lose any sort of hope that the murders would ever be solved. So on this particular day, a well-known former TV reporter, Rob Kelvin, was out with his son, Richard, and also with Richard's friend. There are some reports that Richard was 15 years old at the time, some that he was 16 years old. But the three of them were just having a normal day. Rob and Richard got to spend some quality father-son time together, and Richard was also able to hang out with his friend, as well as his dad, and just, you know, the three of them together. And they decided to walk down to a local park near their home, just to hang out and kick around a soccer ball.

• 43:10Annie Elise?

  Apparently, Richard was a pretty athletic kid, and he played for local clubs on the weekends. So they were just kind of enjoying the cooler weather, stretching their legs, getting some soccer, and you know, just guy things. Eventually, though, Rob decided that he was gonna head back home. He figured Richard would probably want to hang out with his friend a little longer, and it's not like he and Richard were young, they were teenagers. The park was also within walking distance of Rob's house, so he was just heading home, being like, "Hey, you guys can go ahead, keep hanging out, meet me back at the house." And I saw one source that said that the park was only about 400 meters away, so about, you know, .2 miles, which, that's about a five-minute walk, if that. Not really a big walk. Not to mention, it was still really early in the day, people were going to work. They were minding their business. They were just kind of going about their day.

• 43:54Annie Elise?

  So the two boys are hanging out together, but eventually they had had enough of the park for the day. They were over it. So Richard walked his friend to the nearby bus station and just kind of sent him on his way. Then he began walking home, only he would never make it home. And right away, his family noticed he was missing. I mean, you can only kick around a soccer ball for so long, right? So there was no reason why he wouldn't come home all day and then well into the night. So Rob alerted the police and because of his local fame in the area from being a TV reporter, the media went absolutely nuts. As for the investigators, well, let's just say that there was a trend in every single missing person and murder case that we have talked about so far.

• 44:35Annie Elise?

  At this point, you would think that right away, they would assume that maybe Richard had become yet another victim to this now long list of victims, right? But it seems that that wasn't true. They initially treated the case as a runaway teen, which made absolutely no sense. His dad and his friend had just been with him. He hadn't taken anything with him. He had no reason to run away. I mean, I could see if there was this whole long theory with evidence to back it up, but there just wasn't. It did not add up. It wasn't until other witnesses started coming forward that the police finally switched gears from runaway to kidnapped. And because of the time of day that Richard disappeared, there were actually a decent amount of witnesses.

• 45:15Annie Elise?

  The only issue with these witnesses was that they didn't actually see anything. They only heard things. Now, as much as it might seem like that's super unhelpful, it actually really was key information. Because not just one person, but multiple people claimed that they heard what they called a commotion. And that they heard this during the same period of time when Richard went missing, which now the investigators believe when Richard was abducted. Now, here's the thing. The commotion wasn't just coming from two voices, meaning Richard and his abductor. There were multiple voices. And like I said, this wasn't just one person who came forward with this information. It was multiple people. So stick a pin in that information for later. We will come back to that.

• 46:01Annie Elise?

  Fortunately, over a full month passed before Richard was ever found. And I'm sure that you can guess by now that what was found was only his remains. So I just edged my way over. And I went over there and I said, are you all right, mate? And I pulled the bushes right back. And then I, that's when I saw his head. And his hair was all greasy and his skin was all mottled. I pulled further bushes out of the way and I asked him again if he was all right. And because then as I pulled the bushes right out of the way, I noticed that he had a Channel 9 jumper on. So I backed off and I went up there and I said, that's Richard Kelvin. His cause of death was the exact same as the others. Massive blood loss from an anal injury.

• 46:44Annie Elise?

  Now that alone would have convinced me that all of these cases were connected. That's just my opinion, but I feel like, hello, the writing is on the wall, right? But the one thing about Richard that stood out compared to all of the other victims was that his body was not decomposing. Which was very odd considering it had been over a full month since he had gone missing. The authorities later theorized that he was likely held captive by whoever had done this to him for five entire weeks before he was finally killed. Which, think about that. For five weeks, he was likely being tormented. Tormented in ways that we can't even imagine. Emotionally, physically, sexually. For five weeks, he probably obeyed their every command, hoping that maybe they would let him go.

• 47:30Annie Elise?

  Now, at this point, I'll be honest, I'm not sure if the investigators were finally beginning to connect the dots or if they had just given up on the other victims and were solely focused on the latest victim. But all I know is that now they were asking the public for any tips that could lead them in the right direction. And tip after tip began coming in. But each one, it led to a dead end. So the investigators then decided, okay, we are going to sit down with all five of the victims' information. Everything we have so far. And we're going to start looking for similarities besides the cause of death. They were looking for anything else that would convince them that there was a connection. And maybe if the murders were connected, they could start sorting through the potential. suspects in each case to also see if that made sense with the other victims,

• 48:14Annie Elise?

  if there was any sort of crossover connection. And there was one thing that really stood out during this. In Alan, Neil, Mark, and Richard's autopsy reports, every single one of them had a sedative in their bloodstream. And I guess this was something that just hadn't really necessarily stood out before. Why? I have no idea. But obviously, it was way too much to just be a coincidence. And now, they finally felt like they were getting somewhere.

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• 49:27Annie Elise?

  All young men, going missing. Their bodies dumped in locations where the killer was hoping they would never be found. And their cause of deaths being very uncommon, yet alike. And they all had the exact same sedative in their systems prior to their murders. So the investigators finally said it, you know, let's start going about this differently. Let's treat all these cases as if they were killed by the same person. Now, Dr. Milhouse was a huge suspect in Neil's case, but remember, he had been found not guilty. So the only other suspect that they had on the table was Bevan. And once they began really looking into Bevan, it was almost like all of the evidence just started flowing in.

• 50:08Annie Elise?

  First of all, they discovered that Bevan was actually prescribed a sleeping pill. The exact same kind of sleeping pill that all of these men had in their systems. Somehow, the detectives were also able to track down the person who had originally called in and given Bevan's name after Alan's disappearance. Remember the tipster who said, "Here's who you need to call. Here's the killer. He's on a silver platter." I mean, why this was never done before? Your guess is as good as mine. But now they were finally tracking down this tipster. And this person who had called in was apparently no angel. He admitted that he had done a lot of really bad things in life, maybe even still doing some bad things. And he had insisted to the police that if he gave them the information that they wanted,

• 50:51Annie Elise?

  that they could not use his name in any of the official documents. Now, my first thought immediately went to him being involved in some sort of shady business, you know, and not wanting his name out there, whether out of fear or a ruined reputation, whatever it may be. Because I'd imagine, you know, if it's, if he's a drug dealer and he's ratting out another drug dealer, they probably don't want that person to know it was them, you know? You don't want your street cred ruined. You don't want people to then come after you for being a rat, things like that. And he was so paranoid that he wouldn't even meet the investigators in public places. It was almost like he feared that he was being watched. So with this, the alias Mr. B was created, the letter B.

• 51:32Annie Elise?

  Mr. B told the investigators that he had a personal relationship with Bevan at one time. A friend, you could say. Though it seemed like partners in crime would probably be more of an accurate description. Again, a bad guy involved in plenty of shady business. So he told the investigators that he strongly believed that Bevan was responsible not only for Alan's murder, but for the other murderers too. According to him, whenever the two of them were bored, they apparently used to drive around looking for men to pick up. Once they would pick them up, Bevan would then peer pressure the guys into taking drugs, often giving them the sleeping pills with the promise of it being some other random party drug. Almost like saying, oh yeah, it's X and it's really a sedative.

• 52:14Annie Elise?

  They'd also have tons of beer stocked up, just ready to go in the car too. Just making it kind of enticing as though they're all gonna party and rage together. Then they would invite them to a party. They would talk this party up, promising that there would be plenty of alcohol, drugs, women, anything that they possibly could want. But these parties apparently weren't what these helpless victims were expecting. And remember, most of them would take the sleeping pills and then they would be pretty out of it by the time they even arrived at this quote unquote "party." But these parties, they were no harmless get togethers. Mr. B claimed that he and Bevan were only a couple of the men who would be at these parties, just waiting for the latest victim to come in. And it was almost like this group of like-minded, sick individuals who all got together and

• 52:59Annie Elise?

  then took pride in taking advantage of these victims and sexually assaulting them. And after being so heavily drugged, these men didn't even have a chance to fight these assaults off. Most of them weren't even conscious. So who were these people? Because this does seem like an insane claim for Mr. B to make. Or is it? Local people in the area who do believe Mr. B's story refer to these people as quote, "the family." Now where this exact name originated from, I'm not very sure. Mr. B had described these people as almost cult-like, though. And I'm sure all of you who are listening to this episode, at the very least, have heard of Charles Manson and the crimes that he and his followers committed.

• 53:41Annie Elise?

  But for those of you who are not familiar, the people who blindly followed Charles Manson also were referred to as the Manson Family. Again, very cultish, very just like, you know, enmeshed with each other. Now, obviously, these cases are very different, but it's possible that that's where the name came from, or that they viewed themselves as a family. Now, unlike the Manson Family, it seemed like this family, there was no direct ringleader. It wasn't one person claiming to be God, or the Chosen One, or the Prophet, and everybody else just believing and blindly following. These individuals, though, they were like-minded and they did have certain traits in common. And they were people who- Were typically classified as doing very well in life. They had successful careers.

• 54:26Annie Elise?

  They worked with the public. They had wives and kids at home. They were policemen, doctors, lawyers, the local grocery clerk who knew you by name and waved at you anytime you walked into the building. I mean, just your typical people you would run into daily. Again, all according to Mr. B. Kind of gives some vibes too, if you've seen the movie Hostel, how there's this very sick collection of individuals who get off on the idea of killing somebody and committing a murder. Kind of like Squid Games 2, where it's like these birds of a feather flock into Freakville together, just like-minded people who just like get off on the same thing. It's bizarre. Now, Mr. B made it very clear that he did not want to give a list of everyone who was involved in these parties.

• 55:10Annie Elise?

  But he did make it clear that it wasn't people that you would expect, just like I mentioned previously. He was also very adamant that the authorities needed to keep an open mind when it came to imagining who was involved. Which just think about all of the recent Diddy and Epstein stuff that we've seen and been exposed to, right? It's kind of that same sort of vibe. It's these powerful people, these unassuming people, who have these sick perversions and band together to explore those perversions and act on them. Mr. B also claimed that he had seen with his own eyes Bevan giving one of these young men sedatives and then assaulting them while they were unconscious. But Bevan wasn't the only one. He wasn't the leader.

• 55:53Annie Elise?

  He was just a participant in this larger group of people. Now, since the causes of death and information surrounding their deaths were public at this point, and everybody knew how the victims had died, apparently this was the final straw for Bevan's former friend and, you know, cohort, if you could call him that. He said that the way that Bevan and the others would sexually assault these men at these parties while they were knocked out was pretty identical to the lead-up of what the police had theorized happened to these young men that had all been murdered. The only difference being that he had never seen firsthand any of these men being harmed to the point of bleeding out. Every victim he had ever seen had made it out alive. Now, the thought of the group potentially drugging, assaulting, and murdering the victims,

• 56:37Annie Elise?

  he says it was just way too much for him. And that's why he ultimately decided to call in that tip and come forward. Which, it sounds so ass-backwards, right? I mean, I guess drugging and sexually assaulting people was morally okay, but now when the assault got so bad, it crossed over into murder? That crossed the line? I mean, make it make sense? It's also important to note that Mr. B. isn't claiming that he saw any of these victims being killed firsthand. He just was putting two and two together and assuming that based on the similarities, this was linked. Which kind of does make sense. If all of these people who were involved in these, you know, quote "parties", were seemingly hard-working family men, I would imagine they can't all be present at the time. They have jobs, they have different schedules.

• 57:21Annie Elise?

  It's probably very in-and-out, you know? Or maybe some of the men he knew in that group had just broken off into a smaller group, a group of people who weren't satisfied enough by the assaulting of their victims and the torture of the victims, but that the assaults were more like a gateway drug for them, and then they created their new, like, little subgroup where they wanted to cross over into murder. Mr. B. also claimed that when it came to finding their victims, sometimes they wouldn't even have to go out driving to find them. Sometimes they would meet them in places like gay bars in town. And if you remember, witnesses said both Alan and Neil were seen at those bars before their deaths. So could they have crossed paths with Bevan? Or with one of his associates in the family there? Maybe?

• 58:06Annie Elise?

  And those two are just part of the bigger picture, right? Alan was hitchhiking. Mark was more than likely hitchhiking. Peter could have been too, or maybe he was just simply walking when a car full of people convinced him to get in. And then there's Neil. He knew Bevan. But Neil was also a sex worker, so that could have made him more trusting if an old fling offered him a ride. Or, I guess, even more vulnerable if one of Bevan's associates or family members posed as a potential client. Bevan would have known Neil's work. And according to Mr. B., he could have easily told the group that it would be simple to lure him- Into one of these so-called parties, all under the guise of it being a potential job for him. So all of that to say, it's not hard to imagine that every single victim could have

• 58:51Annie Elise?

  crossed paths with Bevan or his alleged associates at some point. And when you really think about it, it is just so haunting and eerie. A secret network of well-known, respected people just committing these horrific crimes right in their own community. So finally, now being armed with all of this information about Bevan, the investigators finally got it together and they were able to do a search of his home. And what they found, it was just the cherry on top of this investigation. There were, yes, sleeping pills, but then there was the fact that there were hairs and other fibers tested from Bevan's house that matched fibers found on Richard's body.

• 59:33Annie Elise?

  Richard, the 15-year-old kidnapped and murdered after walking home from the nearby park. Said that at some stage, he had put his arm around Richard and that would perhaps explain the cardigan fibers found on his clothing. He had sat him on the floor at some stage. That might explain the whole carpet fibers. So finally, on November 3rd, 1983, Bevan was arrested. But the news was bittersweet because he only had been charged with Richard's murder. The following year, he was found guilty and he was sentenced to life in prison, which it was a moment of relief and justice for Richard's family and friends.

• 1:00:15Annie Elise?

  But for the families of the other victims, it kind of felt like a slap in the face. Their loved ones' cases were still unsolved and the man that they believed was responsible was not going to be held accountable for them. But a few years later, in 1989, there was another break and Bevan was actually charged with the murders of Alan and Mark. But because the only evidence that the investigators were able to bring forward was the fact that the murders were so similar to Richard's, which was all circumstantial evidence, because of that, the charges were sadly withdrawn. And to this day, the murders of Alan, Mark, Peter, and Are still unsolved, but there are plenty of theories surrounding their deaths because

• 1:00:58Annie Elise?

  many people do think that Bevan killed all of them. Others are inclined to believe that Bevan and a group of just deviants were responsible for all of the deaths, that they all worked together, that they all were a part of this and complicit. Which of course, if that's true, that would leave a lot of very dangerous people out there who know the truth about what happened to those boys and young men. Now, it's also really important to note that the investigators apparently never really gave a lot of thought to this theory of a group of people being murderers. And even though Mr. B was granted immunity due to the kinds of things that he had admitted to, his testimony and eyewitness accounts were dubbed as being unreliable. Because apparently he just changed his story very often and whenever it suited him.

• 1:01:42Annie Elise?

  However, the family members of some of the victims have come forward with some pretty interesting information that would seem that they actually think the exact opposite.

• 1:01:51Speaker 01

  He told me that we know who they are, but we can't touch them.

• 1:01:59Speaker 01

  They are in very high places.

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  And they got so much protection around themselves that we can't do nothing.

• 1:02:09Annie Elise?

  Other victims' family members just simply believe that the theories have to be true.

• 1:02:14Speaker 06

  Animals. An animal would not do that.

• 1:02:20Speaker 06

  You know, all these years I've been trying to think of what to call them. You do not call them men, you do not call them people, and you do not call them animals. What do you call them?

• 1:02:33Speaker 06

  And for 25 years, I could not think of a name to call them. You know, to address the press. What do I say to them? What do I call these people? They're not humans.

• 1:02:51Annie Elise?

  Old school Thai gang.

• 1:02:53Speaker 03

  How high up are we talking?

• 1:02:55Annie Elise?

  About as high as you can get. Now, as of this recording, Bevan is still alive. He is serving out the rest of his life sentence. And it's crazy to think that this man is still alive today and that he potentially holds the answers to so many questions. And look, I know it's not that simple, but I really do wish that he would just admit to everything and give the family and friends of these poor boys some kind of peace, some sort of answer and closure. He's already serving a life sentence, so, you know, what's a few more hundred years, what's that really gonna do? Just drop the names, blow the whole story up, do something good while you still can. But again, I know that it's not that simple and easy, and he likely will take his secrets to the grave. But if anything, his refusal to name anyone else who might have been involved

• 1:03:40Annie Elise?

  just makes me even more certain that this must have been something much bigger than we realize. And I'm not trying to sound all conspiracy theory here, but go with me on this. But is it possible that there's a reason that the police work on these cases was so bad? And oddly enough, even now, decades later, people who have made it their mission to bring awareness to this case keep running into roadblock after roadblock, which honestly, only makes it feel that much more suspicious. Is that because law enforcement or other officials want to keep certain things sealed away, never letting the full truth come out? I mean, your guess is as good as mine. Could some of the investigators themselves have been involved in this? Maybe even paid off, threatened into silence?

• 1:04:24Annie Elise?

  I don't know. I mean, at this point, I wouldn't put anything past it. But I am really curious to hear what you think. Was Bevan just a predator who targeted young men, drugging, assaulting, and then killing them before dumping their bodies? Or was he more of a scapegoat in a much larger network of dangerous men? Maybe he was just one of many who took sick pleasure in these crimes, and then when the spotlight landed on him, the rest of the group kind of just laid low and let him take the fall? What do you guys think? We've seen and heard crazier things, right? So let me know what you think, and I want to hear your theories. So either drop a comment on Spotify or leave a review on Apple with what you think about this case. And if you're watching this on YouTube, leave your theory in the comment section.

• 1:05:09Annie Elise?

  It is just shocking, heartbreaking, bizarre, and...

• 1:05:13Annie Elise?

  The best word I know to use to describe it? Completely barbaric, honestly. So, thank you guys for tuning in. Take a quick second. If you're listening to the audio version of this, please make sure that you are following the podcast so that you don't miss future episodes. And if you are watching the video version of this on YouTube, hit subscribe so that you don't miss future episodes as well. And if you have an extra 30 seconds and you're listening on Apple, please leave a rating and review. All right, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in with me today. I know that this case was a little longer than usual, but there was a lot to go over. So, I appreciate you sticking with me. I also know that it was very brutal and graphic. So, I appreciate it. Until the next one, be nice, don't kill people.

• 1:05:54Annie Elise?

  Definitely don't join any cults or any group called the family. And just be a good human, all right? And stay safe, please, just stay safe. Bye.

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