367: Nightmare Parents & Their Horrific Digital Footprint | DaddyOFive

* I know this is a very difficult one to watch. Especially the clips. Brings me right back to Ruby Frankie’s old videos tormenting her kids. It took me several times to record it and get through it myself. I debated not releasing it at all but I firmly believe these monsters and everyone who failed these kids deserves to be put on blast and called out for what they did. They did lose custody of two of the children but only received PROBATION for the rest of it. UNACCEPTABLE! Please take care of yourself when watching and if you have to skip this one, I completely understand. 💔. It started as a family channel. Kids laughing, parents joking, millions of people watching. But over time, the “pranks” got meaner, louder, and harder to watch. On the DaddyOFive channel, videos showed kids being screamed at, blamed for things they didn’t do, and pushed to emotional breaking points, all while the camera kept rolling. Some pranks allegedly went even further, with claims of food being tampered with just to get a reaction on screen. At first, it was brushed off as dark humor. Viewers weren't as convinced as they started asking if something much more serious was happening behind the scenes. But when the internet turned on them, it set off a chain reaction that would change that family forever..... If you’re new here, don’t forget to follow the show for weekly deep dives into the darkest true crime cases! To watch the video version of this episode, head over to youtube.com/@annieelise. .🔎Join Our True Crime Club & Get Exclusive Content & Perks..🎧 Need More to Binge? Listen to both of my weekly true crime series 10 to Life & Serialously with Annie Elise wherever you get your podcasts on the Annie Elise Channel!🍎 Apple Podcasts | Where you can also unlock access to 100+ and growing extra exclusive deep dives.💚 Spotify🔴 YouTube🎙️ All Other Platforms.📸 Follow Annie on Socials Instagram: @_annieeliseTikTok: @_annieeliseSubstack: @annieeliseFacebook: @10toLife.👗 Shop Annie’s Must-Haves! ShopMY: bit.ly/AnnieElise_ShopMy Amazon: bit.ly/AnnieElise_Amazon.🫵🏻 Get Involved or Recommend a CaseAbout Annie: www.annieelise.comFor Business Inquiries: [email protected].📚 Episode Sources ABC News | Archive.org | BBC News | CBC Radio | Concerned Citizen | Daddyofive Real Story | Daily Mail | DramaAlert | Flimpy Flumples | Good Morning America | Jacobe Castillo | Medium | NBC News | NBC Washington | Nick Monroe Blog | People | PhillyVoice | Skeptic Lion | The Guardian | The Sun | Thefan Channel | TikTok | Tim Conlon | UNILAD | USA Today | Vice | Wikipedia | WFMD | WUSA9••••••••••••••••••🚨Disclaimers1️⃣ Some links may be affiliate links, they do not cost you anything, but I make a small percentage from the sale. Thank you so much for watching and supporting me. 2️⃣ Sources used to collect this information include various public news sites, interviews, court documents, FB groups dedicated to the case, and various news channel segments. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember my videos are my independent opinion and to always do your own research. 3️⃣ The views and opinions expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. Assumptions made in the analysis are not reflective of the position of any entity other than the creator(s). These views are subject to change, revision, and rethinking at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. We make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the reader’s responsibility to verify their own facts.

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• 1:31Speaker 04

  The story of a family who may have taken their pursuit of social media fame and fortune too far. The parents behind the popular YouTube channel, Daddy05, say they thought they were playing innocent pranks on their children. I didn't do that! But instead, they're sparking outrage and accusations of abuse.

• 1:47Speaker 05

  This is what people want. They want to hurt us. For being savagely attacked.

• 1:53Speaker 06

  I got a prank for Cody.

• 1:54Speaker 07

  One person wrote, "This makes me shudder." Another called it "mental abuse." I am personally concerned for these kids.

• 2:00Speaker 08

  It's just a prank, bro.

• 2:05Annie Elise?

  Hey, true crime besties. Welcome back to an all-new episode of Serial Sleep.

• 2:27Annie Elise?

  Hey everybody, welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialistically. With me, Annie Elise, here to break down another true crime case for you. And look, today's case is kind of a little bit different. It's like, true crime, vlogger world-adjacent influencer, Ruby Frankie, I don't know. It kind of has a little mix of everything. And it was a request from a lot of you guys. So when I started researching it and realizing how awful this was, I knew I wanted to jump on the mic and I wanted to talk with you guys about it. But I do want to give you a little bit of a heads up. Some of the media in today's episode may upset you,

• 3:12Annie Elise?

  but it is important to shine a light on all of this and to give you the full picture. So, we are gonna just jump right in. The title of this video was "Invisible Ink Prank: Epic Freakout." So, of course, most people immediately clicked on it.

• 3:30Speaker 06

  Hey guys! So, I got a prank for Cody. I bought this here, invisible ink, and I'm gonna squirt it all over his carpet and start flipping out. Cause you remember before, guys, you've seen our videos, you know, he got ink all over our carpet and we actually had to pay someone to come clean it. So, we're gonna make him think that he did it again, and he's gonna pull back because he really didn't do it. So, we're gonna see how this goes.

• 4:07Annie Elise?

  Now, already, any viewer with a heart and conscience, in my opinion, would automatically be a little bit apprehensive about this. Well, this prank ended up being anything but harmless. Heather herself had warned that she was going to flip out on nine-year-old Cody, and that's exactly what she did. And this whole video, in my opinion, is painfully long.

• 4:35Speaker 10

  What the fuck?

• 4:36Speaker 08

  What did you do?

• 4:39Speaker 10

  What? What the fuck? I didn't do that!

• 4:44Speaker 08

  What the hell is that? What the hell is that?

• 4:50Speaker 10

  What is this?

• 4:51Speaker 08

  Cody!

• 4:52Speaker 10

  You tell me! I didn't do that! You tell me what you did! I swear to god I didn't do that! Call over your carpet! I didn't do that! I don't have anything to call it when it's

• 5:02Speaker 08

  Why did you do that?

• 5:04Speaker 10

  You ruined the carpet. Get out of here, mind your business! I didn't do that! I love it, dad, I didn't do that! Oh my god! Oh my god!

• 5:12Speaker 08

  You know how much I said this?

• 5:14Speaker 10

  I didn't do that! I swear.

• 5:18Speaker 08

  Cody...

• 5:19Speaker 10

  I didn't do it!

• 5:20Speaker 08

  You're taking it-

• 5:21Speaker 10

  You're fucking lying again! Like seriously? I don't know.

• 5:25Speaker 08

  You obviously did! You've done this before!

• 5:29Speaker 10

  I didn't do that!

• 5:30Speaker 08

  You've done this before!

• 5:32Speaker 10

  I don't have anything to do that with, I don't have anything!

• 5:35Speaker 08

  Cody, you did this!

• 5:37Speaker 10

  I know, but I don't have anything to ask you or whatever that is.

• 5:41Speaker 08

  Cody, you did this.

• 5:42Speaker 10

  I didn't!

• 5:43Speaker 08

  You did this, you know you did this!

• 5:45Speaker 10

  I didn't do that! We didn't do this!

• 5:49Speaker 08

  You're writing a thousand sentences-

• 5:51Speaker 10

  So you were fucking up here too? No!

• 5:53Speaker 08

  You did it too!

• 5:54Speaker 10

  I didn't!

• 5:55Speaker 08

  You both did it!

• 5:56Speaker 10

  No, we didn't do that!

• 5:57Speaker 08

  You both did this!

• 5:59Speaker 10

  No, stop!

• 6:00Speaker 08

  You're both writing a thousand sentences! Well you're not- You are gonna lose your allowance and everything!

• 6:07Speaker 10

  We didn't do that!

• 6:08Speaker 08

  Yes you did! Yes you did!

• 6:11Speaker 10

  We didn't do that!

• 6:12Speaker 08

  Yes you did! Yes you did! Yes they did, they did it.

• 6:18Speaker 10

  We didn't do this! I don't have anything to do this!

• 6:21Speaker 08

  Make sure it doesn't stop recording. You too did this.

• 6:24Speaker 10

  No.

• 6:25Speaker 08

  You damn well you did.

• 6:26Speaker 10

  No, no, we're fine. No, no, we're fine.

• 6:31Annie Elise?

  And it just keeps going. Both Heather and Mike Martin, the daddy behind Daddy of Five, continued screaming, yelling profanities, hitting walls. And keep in mind, this video was a little over six minutes long. The yelling started before we even got into minute one, and it didn't let up until almost the very end of the video. So what those kids experienced that day for this, you know, prank, was more like psychological warfare. It started with Cody, but it ended in almost every kid just red in the face, crying, pleading for their parents to calm down and listen to them.

• 7:10Speaker 10

  Fuck off, please, Daddy! Hold this fucking camera, hold it. Hold this stupid camera. God, we want to put ink all over this fucking place? What is that? Invisible ink it dry, it comes out.

• 7:27Speaker 10

  It's already drying up.

• 7:31Speaker 08

  Hey, hey, hey, babe, you can't be sitting down like that.

• 7:36Speaker 10

  Look, it's already coming off.

• 7:43Speaker 10

  I have to return those Udo cards. Udo cards?

• 7:46Speaker 08

  It's invisible ink, it goes away.

• 7:54Speaker 08

  Look, it go away, when it dry? See, look, look, look over here. Going away.

• 8:03Speaker 10

  We got you both.

• 8:05Speaker 08

  They were.

• 8:06Speaker 10

  You were innocent bystanders.

• 8:08Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 8:09Annie Elise?

  Now, to me, a prank is like, oh, got your nose, or, oh, like, you know, here's a noogie, or a wet willy, or something like that. And the kid laughs about it, maybe they're a little irritated, but they laugh. So if you're watching this episode on YouTube and you're seeing all these clips, I want you to think about it. No kid should be sitting on their bed with this blank expression, just disassociating from the events that have just taken place. All in the name of pranking and getting views. I mean, it's despicable. And I'm not alone in my feelings here because once this video was uploaded, nobody could forget the faces of those kids in the room that day. It was the breaking point for all of the Daddy O5 viewers.

• 8:50Annie Elise?

  And it really was the moment that made their once loyal fans take a step back and really consider the content that they were viewing. And like I said, today's case is one that is all too similar to some of the very rough topics that we've talked about before. Think Ruby Frankie 2.0. It's almost like, how far will some people go for views? And is there ever truly a time where as a parent, you just stand back and say, "Look, enough is enough. The money isn't worth it." But sadly, we're in the era of social media and the era of family channels that truly do exploit their children for views at whatever cost. Their mental, physical health, their safety online, their privacy, and so much more. It's just constantly on the line, sometimes even daily with these people.

• 9:33Annie Elise?

  And the family we're talking about today was once a very popular family channel called Daddy O5. Daddy O5 was a YouTube channel that was started by Mike Martin, the dad of the group. And like a lot of social media accounts that eventually go rogue, it started off as a channel that, in theory, really shouldn't have been too bad. But as the subscribers rose to nearly 750,000, that so did the need for the best, most jaw-dropping content. That's what took precedent over, you know, basic human decency. And the Invisible Ink prank video instantly went viral among people who had never even heard of the Daddy O5 channel before. Comments were just pouring in about the kids' safety and well-being.

• 10:18Annie Elise?

  And by the very next day, tons of other YouTube channels were re-uploading these videos. They were commenting on all of it, on the family dynamics, the channel as a whole. And this, of course, led to even more people being concerned about Cody and the other kids in the Martin household. And people weren't just saying that this prank was mean or uncalled for. Almost every commentator and viewer was calling it something much more serious, understandably, and calling it outright torment against these children. So who were these people behind this channel and what was really going on behind the scenes here? Mike and Heather Martin were a blended family living in Iamsville, Maryland. Mike had two children from his previous relationship. Emma, who was 11 years old during the 2017 controversy,

• 11:03Annie Elise?

  and Cody, who was just nine years old. Heather had three kids from her previous relationship. Jake, who was 14, Ryan, who was 12, and Alex, who was the same age as Cody, nine years old. And Heather describes her story and meeting Mike as kind of going a little something like this. She got married to the father of her three boys when she was just 18 years old. Pretty young. She had the three kids with him when she was 18, 21, and then 24 years old. Then, after 10 years of marriage, she filed for a divorce, claiming that she was unhappy and that by staying with him, she wasn't able to give her sons the life that she wanted them to have. So she filed for divorce in June of 2011. And then a few months later, she met Mike.

• 11:45Annie Elise?

  Apparently, they were just head over heels for each other and like, you know, you know how the saying goes, "The rest was history." Then in 2015, they created their YouTube channel. And the "About Me" section of that channel says, "We, as a family, decided to make this YouTube channel just for fun."

• 12:02Speaker 05

  Emma.

• 12:04Speaker 05

  Happy birthday, Emma! So we're going to Wild Wings for Emma's birthday. Are you excited? Are you super excited?

• 12:14Annie Elise?

  Yes.

• 12:14Speaker 05

  Are you really excited?

• 12:16Annie Elise?

  Yes.

• 12:16Speaker 05

  Are you really super excited? Are you sure?

• 12:19Annie Elise?

  Yeah. So like I said before, it started as something that theoretically should have been harmless. It should have been just that, for fun. But they very quickly realized that their typical family vlogs weren't cutting it for people. People wanted more. Whether it was going out to eat for one of the kids' birthdays, or going to the mall to pick out toys, or do some Christmas shopping, the views just weren't as high on any of those calm, everyday type of vlogs that they were posting. The videos were too clean, too calm. They didn't have that shock and wow factor, things that viewers kept wanting more and more of. And that's kind of a tricky issue on the internet, right? We see so many things day to day, whether it's in the vlogging world, the true crime world, reality TV world,

• 13:01Annie Elise?

  to where we become desensitized in a way, and it feels like people need to keep upping the ante. And not necessarily from a content creator perspective. I mean, I guess, yes, looking at this, obviously. But even from a viewer, it's like what maybe felt... Like it would jolt you a little bit one day, maybe not so much. And it's going to take more to, you know, strike a nerve. And that was the same for this family, this channel and these viewers. And that's when they first started deciding to introduce the prank videos.

• 13:39Annie Elise?

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• 15:01Annie Elise?

  Now, to be honest, I gotta say, I'm shocked that it took the invisible ink prank for people to really start talking about this family. Because none of these pranks were funny. I mean, honestly, not a single one of them, in my opinion. Each one was always done at the expense of one of their kids. Though I will say little Cody seems to be the one who was picked on the most often.

• 15:22Speaker 11

  Cody brought a lighter to school and lit the toilet paper on fire. And I'm a little bit concerned about this.

• 15:28Speaker 08

  What?

• 15:29Speaker 11

  Please just call me back and let me know when we'll be able to shut. Cody!

• 15:34Speaker 08

  Cody! Get your ass in here right now! Get in here!

• 15:44Speaker 10

  Your teacher just called. Why is your shirt on?

• 16:01Speaker 11

  What are you doing?

• 16:03Speaker 12

  This is your teacher, you calling her a liar?

• 16:05Speaker 10

  I never took a lighter. Well, your teacher's saying you did. I don't even know what I- So now we gotta have a meeting at your school? Why is the camera on?

• 16:13Speaker 12

  It's not.

• 16:14Speaker 05

  You were bad today.

• 16:16Speaker 10

  What did I do?

• 16:17Speaker 05

  You were bad today.

• 16:18Speaker 10

  What did I do?

• 16:19Speaker 05

  You got expelled.

• 16:22Speaker 10

  For what?

• 16:23Speaker 05

  For being bad and difficult all the time. Get out, get out now!

• 16:29Speaker 10

  What are you talking about, all the time?

• 16:33Speaker 05

  You're fighting with the teachers too much. You're not listening, you're arguing all the time.

• 16:37Speaker 10

  I didn't get expelled!

• 16:39Speaker 05

  Yes, you did Cody! Yes, you did!

• 16:44Speaker 10

  Are you being serious?

• 16:45Speaker 05

  Yes!

• 16:47Speaker 10

  There's no way.

• 16:48Speaker 05

  Cody, yes you did, I told you, get out! I told you that you could not behave that way in this neighborhood. I told you you couldn't be acting all stupid and stuff in this school, I told you that.

• 17:03Speaker 10

  There's no way you're being serious.

• 17:05Speaker 05

  I am being dead damn serious.

• 17:10Speaker 05

  Now I gotta find you a damn home tutor or something. And I'm gonna have to put you in one of those schools for bad kids that live there. You remember I was telling you about that?

• 17:20Speaker 05

  The school said they can't deal, they cannot suit your needs.

• 17:24Speaker 10

  No way.

• 17:27Speaker 10

  No way, I've never got expelled before, no way.

• 17:29Speaker 05

  Well, you did now, and I told you, I told you to shape up, I told you to shape up.

• 17:34Speaker 10

  There's no way I got expelled.

• 17:35Speaker 05

  I told, yes, you did.

• 17:39Speaker 05

  When mom gets home, she's gonna leave your ass out.

• 17:42Annie Elise?

  Essentially, every prank video was just making Cody or one of the other kids think that they were in trouble. Which again, that's not really a prank at all. And I think we can all agree on that, especially any of us who are parents here. Like, making a child feel like they're in trouble and they've done something wrong, that isn't a prank. That is cruel. And they had videos that were titled Cody Bad in School, or Cody Ruined Family Night, or Cody Put Up for Adoption prank. Using Cody for Target Practice. They even had a video titled Cody Holds Alex at Gunpoint. I mean, these are not prank videos. These are isolating your one child and making them not only feel a certain way,

• 18:23Annie Elise?

  but actively like smearing them online and making them the punching bag. It's awful. And I know that that title of the last video that I mentioned, it's pretty insane. But I will say it was a clickbait title completely. It was created to make viewers think that this poor kid was actually holding their sibling at gunpoint. But that's not at all what happened. Again, not interesting or funny at all. Yet, it still got the viewers in. It got people clicking in. So apparently they did have the audience for these things. And it was an almost 30-minute-long video, just filming random stuff, nothing like super concrete. Mike also explained a point system that they started using with the kids.

• 19:02Annie Elise?

  And then toward the end of the video, Mike and a few of the kids went outside to shoot what looks to be paintball guns, maybe BB guns. And I honestly don't even know because I wasn't able to get through the entire thing. It made me sick to my stomach. But all that to say, it certainly wasn't a real gun. It wasn't some sort of feud between the siblings. It was just this weird kid-on-kid clickbait. It was gross. And it's insane what that poor little kid Cody was put through.

• 19:30Speaker 05

  Cody.

• 19:32Speaker 10

  You wanna be alone? You wanna care about me? You wanna love me? You wanna like me? So just go! Why are you still here? Just go!

• 19:42Speaker 05

  I do like you. I gotta get your help.

• 19:44Speaker 10

  I don't like you cuz you're bad. Exactly.

• 19:47Annie Elise?

  But even though a lot of these videos were based around Cody, he wasn't the only one who dealt with these kinds of twisted pranks. None of these kids were safe from being, you know, the star of the show. It wasn't just Cody who got the prank treatment. There are other videos that were titled, "Emma Goes Psycho", "Mom Beats Jake With A Spoon", "Alex Was Bad On The Bus", and everything was just based on humiliation or psychologically upsetting these kids. Like the time when Mike ordered the kids burgers, picked his nose, put his disgusting ass boogers all over one of the burgers, and then gave them to the kids to eat, and told them that he did all of that to the burgers too. I mean, it's just so disgusting.

• 20:30Annie Elise?

  I also cannot unsee the part where he literally spit inside of the hamburger and then also rubbed it all over a public trash can.

• 20:38Speaker 05

  We're gonna order them all burgers. We're gonna get all the kids burgers, but we're gonna take one of the burgers and make it really, really nasty. And I'll put boogers in it and put all kinds of nasty stuff on it or whatever. And I'm gonna tell them that I did that to all the burgers. Mmm.

• 21:01Speaker 05

  That's for Cody.

• 21:05Speaker 12

  Ew, you're all picking your boogers.

• 21:11Speaker 05

  Ew!

• 21:28Speaker 05

  That's for Cody.

• 21:32Speaker 10

  Yeah!

• 21:37Annie Elise?

  Now, very few videos on the channel were what could be considered as normal. I mean, they would sometimes occasionally upload a vlog for Christmas, or a video about receiving fan mail, I mean, things like that. But for the most part, I would say that 95% of these videos involved something with shock value. A stunt, a prank, something. And to be 100% clear, it wasn't just emotional or psychological stuff that they had to go through. Some of it was physical. Again, all in the name of views.

• 22:08Speaker 08

  Now, you gotta flip the bottle and land it. Now, if it lands, you're safe. Now, if it don't land, the other person gets to slap you in the face.

• 22:21Speaker 10

  Wait, what?

• 22:24Speaker 10

  Oh, it's true. It's true. Oh, God!

• 22:29Speaker 08

  Be quiet!

• 22:37Speaker 08

  Alright, your turn, Alex.

• 22:38Speaker 10

  No!

• 22:39Speaker 08

  Your turn!

• 22:40Speaker 10

  What the... How is she gonna...

• 22:41Speaker 08

  She don't count. She's your sister. She's not a girl.

• 22:44Speaker 10

  She... She can slap me. Wait, she's a girl!

• 22:46Speaker 08

  You smack her. Be easy. Go ahead.

• 22:50Speaker 10

  Oh, I'm out. Oh, God.

• 22:51Speaker 08

  Go ahead.

• 22:53Speaker 08

  Don't hit her hard.

• 22:55Speaker 10

  You're arresting Juby, you fool. If you smack her, I'm gonna smack you. You flinched, you flinched.

• 22:59Speaker 08

  Alright, go get it, Ryan. Go get Ryan.

• 23:01Speaker 10

  No! No! No!

• 23:04Speaker 08

  Come on! Go get Ryan.

• 23:06Speaker 10

  I'm not hitting Ryan. Why do I have to do the older one?

• 23:08Speaker 08

  Alright, well, come on, babe. Just give her a little tap. Oh, my God!

• 23:16Speaker 08

  I didn't say like that. I said, "Give her a little tap!"

• 23:25Speaker 10

  You don't hate girls. You're a little lawbreaker. You're a lawbreaker.

• 23:29Speaker 08

  I said, "A little tap!"

• 23:32Speaker 10

  You just... You just broke the law!

• 23:35Speaker 08

  I didn't... Oh, my God!

• 23:37Speaker 10

  You broke the law, you idiot. You hit a girl. Is that true?

• 23:41Speaker 08

  No!

• 23:44Speaker 13

  I said, give her a little tap.

• 23:47Annie Elise?

  This is just so disgusting because not only are they promoting kid on kid aggression, but also saying it's okay. She doesn't count. She's your sister. Like, what are you even talking about? There was even a video where Mike pushed Cody into a bookcase and it still is uploaded. It is mind boggling. And some of their other, you know, prank, and I say that very loosely, prank videos could have gone incredibly wrong in just a heartbeat. For example, there was a video that was titled Daddy O5 Pulls A Gun On His Son, Prank Goes Wrong, which I can't even believe that that is an actual video title. And no less that people are curious enough to click into that video and see what happens.

• 24:30Annie Elise?

  It's sick. And in the video, it kind of is just like the title says. Heather makes her son dress up in this dark mask, then starts yelling and screaming like somebody broke into their home, which led Mike coming down the stairs with a gun in his hand. Now, was this video staged? A hundred percent, I would imagine, yes. Mike, I'm sure knew exactly what was going to happen and it was all part of the routine, coming down the stairs with a weapon, all to create this like prank gone wrong moment. But still, even if it was staged, it's not funny at all. And on the off chance that it wasn't staged, that could have been deadly. Imagine not only what could have gone wrong, but think about like the PTSD that their son would have from that moment.

• 25:13Annie Elise?

  It is so sick and twisted.

• 25:17Speaker 06

  Hey, everybody. Daddy O5 is sleeping. Me, Jake and Ryan. Since you guys hit like on that last video, are going to show you what pranking Daddy O5 looks like. We're gonna set the alarm off. And what are you gonna do?

• 25:33Speaker 13

  Say hurry up and turn it off, turn it off.

• 25:37Speaker 06

  In a deep crazy voice?

• 25:38Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 25:40Speaker 06

  Okay. What are you gonna do?

• 25:43Speaker 12

  I'm gonna be waiting till it gets about like right here and then I'm gonna control the cannon.

• 25:47Speaker 06

  You're gonna go grab the other camera?

• 25:49Speaker 12

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:49Speaker 06

  All right, are you all ready?

• 25:51Speaker 12

  Yeah.

• 25:58Speaker 10

  Turn it on. Turn it on. Turn it on. Babe! Babe, somebody in the house! Babe! Who's in the house? Babe! Who the fuck is in the house?

• 26:15Speaker 10

  I gotta go in. Babe! I gotta, who the fuck is in the house?

• 26:22Speaker 10

  Babe? Babe? Shut up. Everybody, get the fuck out! Hey, it's Jay, it's Jay.

• 26:30Speaker 12

  It's Jay.

• 26:31Speaker 10

  It's Jay.

• 26:35Speaker 10

  What the fuck is wrong with you all?

• 26:38Speaker 08

  There's a guy across the fucking street looking in the window right now.

• 26:41Speaker 10

  Because you got a gun.

• 26:42Speaker 08

  No shit.

• 26:43Speaker 10

  Put the gun away.

• 26:46Speaker 08

  This motherfucker is over there looking in our house.

• 26:48Speaker 10

  Because you got a gun and are screaming like a fool.

• 26:51Speaker 08

  Somebody about to call the cops.

• 26:53Speaker 10

  Stop doing this shit! They're serious, like, and he's got a ski mask on! Stop fucking funny. Put the fucking gun down!

• 27:03Speaker 12

  I think it was hilarious.

• 27:10Speaker 10

  Put, stop!

• 27:12Annie Elise?

  So these pranks really have never been harmless. They were dangerous from day one, causing chaos and a lot of tears. Most of the time, at least one kid was always crying in the videos. And Daddy05, the account, they posted around 300 different videos in the span of just a few years. Which, to be honest, there are so many different videos that we could talk about, but those are just some of the more serious ones that I wanted to lay out for you as examples. So all of that to say, the problems hadn't just started the day they pranked Cody with this invisible ink. It had been going on for years at that point.

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• 29:00Annie Elise?

  Now, in the early stages of this case in particular, Mike and Heather didn't really seem to have much remorse at all. Instead, they essentially went on this press tour, just giving excuse after excuse. And one of their more notorious interviews was on the YouTube channel Drama Alert, which, by the way, has millions of subscribers. But take a listen.

• 29:21Speaker 05

  They are a little exaggerated, and they are edited to make it look like it's a lot worse than it is. We're also a family, but I mean, we're also trying to make a YouTube channel. The videos, we're not fake, but some things are a little exaggerated. And, you know...

• 29:42Speaker 12

  And the kids all, I mean, this was their idea to start with. So when the camera comes on... They go with it and sometimes they'll tell us afterwards, we really didn't buy that. We knew all along and and then other times they're they're really pranked. I mean, it just, we never know what we're gonna get.

• 30:03Speaker 05

  And it definitely appears that way, that I didn't turn the camera off. But there's, there's many incidents where the camera definitely was turned off. There is a lot that I, there's a lot of privacy. It, it doesn't really appear that way, but there is a lot of privacy. There's a lot of things that we keep to ourselves. When, when a certain child has a boundary crossed and they do not want something posted, we don't post it.

• 30:33Annie Elise?

  So they basically chalked everything up to editing. And look, I know they do that in reality TV. They say, oh, it was the producers, it was the edit, it was this, it was that, I got the villain edit. But they said that the videos had all been edited to exaggerate things, to make things look worse than they really were. And since they had been criticized for filming when their kids had clearly asked them not to, they said it just looked like the kids had no privacy, that they were only pretending not to follow their kids' wishes to be off camera. Which I have to say, to me, that is a very interesting take because most people will edit things on social media to make themselves look better, not worse. But it appears that this was like their whole shtick.

• 31:16Annie Elise?

  And I'm not really sure if they believed that people would believe these excuses and just kind of take them and be fine with it. But once they realized that people all over the country, even all over the world, were calling for CPS to get involved, that's when they started doing some major damage control. And that is also when they released their public apology. And it's not funny, don't get me wrong, it's not funny at all, this is a very serious topic. But they kind of followed the very typical influencer apology video, just the whole setup to a T. They both dressed in, you know, their Sunday best, their perfect outfits, probably the best I've ever seen either one of them look. They were calm, collected, their voices were very low, very calming, very even,

• 31:59Annie Elise?

  which was a pretty crazy juxtaposition to how they usually acted in their other videos. I mean, even their background of this video was set up to look professional.

• 32:08Speaker 12

  This is gonna be a bit of a different video than we usually do. Um, this has been the absolute. Worst week of our life and we realized that we have made some terrible parenting decisions. And we just wanna make things right.

• 32:26Speaker 05

  During this week, we've had a lot of time to stand back, to jump out of character and to see what we've done and to see how we've come across and

• 32:38Speaker 05

  I understand how everyone feels. I acknowledge and I respect how everyone feels about this and I do agree that we put things on the internet that should not be there. We did things that we should not do.

• 32:56Speaker 12

  And as a mother, over the last week, looking back at the videos and just thinking about things, if I didn't know the people and I saw some of those things, I would be thinking the same thing. I would be like, oh my god, those poor children. Once people started watching us and, you know, the kids got excited about it and they would try to see how many views they could get and we feel like we went from something that wasn't so bad and then we just kept going more and more for the shock factor versus reality and to see what could get more views and

• 33:38Speaker 12

  they kind of feel like some of it's their fault and it's not their fault. It's not, it's we're the parents and we should have made better decisions. We could give them a whole lot more than we could give them before and we just felt like we were doing the best thing that we could for them. We are now in family counseling because we need it, um, not only to get through the, you know, media stuff, but we needed to come back together and have everybody, even the kids, to understand what we did wrong in all this. We just wanna give our kids back some type of normalcy.

• 34:21Speaker 12

  We just want them to be able to go back to school and just live their lives.

• 34:25Speaker 05

  I just wanted to take care of everybody. I just wanted.

• 34:29Speaker 12

  We just wanted you guys, we wanted them to be happy. We just wanted our kids to be happy and we went about it the wrong way. We're focused on making sure that our kids don't have to deal with so much backlash from our bad decisions and we realize now what kind of a situation we put them in. And we're just really sorry to them.

• 34:52Annie Elise?

  Now, this video was posted within a week of the invisible ink prank going live on their channel. So when I said that that video went viral, I truly meant it. It was like an overnight thing and the backlash was huge. But this apology video, it wasn't landing for anybody. It wasn't doing anything for anyone. Most people just felt like Mike and Heather were only sorry because they got caught up in the scandal of it all. And because they were losing subscribers and of course, income because of it. And thankfully, this apology, if you can even call it that, it did not sway investigators and CPS from getting involved. And sure enough, on April 28th, 2017, Mike and Heather went on Good Morning America to continue their apology press tour.

• 35:35Annie Elise?

  And in this segment, they also announced that the police had in fact gotten involved and launched an investigation.

• 35:42Speaker 12

  We love our kids. They're the most important thing in the world to us. And we made poor parenting choices by portraying ourselves this way, but we are not bad people.

• 35:55Speaker 05

  I am ashamed. This just, it started out as family fun. It started with me and my kids. We were just, for them, it was just about making a video.

• 36:07Speaker 12

  They would get excited when they would get a lot of views and, you know, it was more for shock value. The characters that you see on our YouTube channel is not a reflection of who we are. It's not.

• 36:20Speaker 06

  It's a character. It was a show. A bad show, but it was a show.

• 36:26Speaker 07

  Is that a show that children should not be involved in? They shouldn't. You say "characters." What are we to believe was real and wasn't real in those videos?

• 36:36Speaker 06

  We did do pranks, but most of the time the kids knew about them. They were planned. Um, some stuff is real, some stuff was acted out, scripted.

• 36:49Speaker 07

  You're not suggesting that your kids and the crying and the sobbing and that emotion we see was not real, are you?

• 36:57Speaker 06

  Um, not every single time. Some of it was acted. Some of it was.

• 37:07Speaker 14

  The Martins claim some of their kids' emotions are exaggerated, all for the sake of making more dramatic videos and getting more views.

• 37:14Annie Elise?

  Reporters actually went to their house and even talked with some of the kids who really stood up for their parents, claiming that these pranks and the constant creation of new videos, that it was all rooted in their ideas, that they wanted it. It wasn't their parents, which maybe that's true, but also, based on my coverage of cases and situations, I know that kids, especially young kids, more times than not, will defend and cover for their parents because they feel the love and loyalty for them. So, listen and let me know what you think.

• 37:46Speaker 15

  We were like, "Dad, when are we making the next video? You know, when are we gonna make the next video?" It was just something that I really look forward to.

• 37:53Annie Elise?

  Now, keep in mind, like I mentioned earlier, Mike and Heather's family was a blended family. So imagine Mike's ex and Heather's ex seeing these videos online of their children. Their children going through this and being shown off and exploited in this way. And they had both come out and spoken out on this, and they are not happy. Emma and Cody's biological mother, Rose, stepped in after seeing that bookcase video, and she immediately began fighting for custody of her two kids. Temporary custody at first, and then, hopefully, permanent.

• 38:25Speaker 16

  I'm glad I was not in the same room as Mike and Heather at the time they did that to my children. It was very painful. I cried. I had an anxiety attack the same day.

• 38:35Annie Elise?

  Rose was very concerned for her kids' wellbeing, like any loving parent would be. However, once she got involved, unfortunately, things got even messier. It got to the point where Mike and Heather posted a public video of Cody and Emma both in tears, having a full-on meltdown, stating that they didn't want to be with Rose. It also included Mike and Heather basically reiterating that their videos, they were all meant for fun. They were staged, they were certain, things had just been exaggerated. It wasn't anything overly serious. So, in reality, it was everybody else's fault for creating the problems.

• 39:11Speaker 17

  I told you a hundred times that you all did not really know us.

• 39:17Speaker 08

  And I said a million times that all this is doing more harm than good. All is doing more harm than good.

• 39:26Speaker 08

  I mean, the videos look like they're dramatic and look crazy and stuff like that. They're edited videos!

• 39:31Speaker 17

  Exactly, they are edited.

• 39:33Speaker 08

  They're edited videos! I mean, damn it! It's YouTube! And now people are trying to destroy my family! I don't fucking care about YouTube anymore! I don't fucking care if people hate me or judge me! I don't fucking care about the YouTube revenue and all that shit! I don't fucking care! I don't fucking care! Our videos are nothing! Some things are exaggerated!

• 40:04Speaker 17

  You all look real. He is real.

• 40:08Speaker 17

  We put YouTube, we put videos on YouTube for fun. Videos we do with our kids. We taught him to believe in himself, that he can be anything he wants to be. He's creative, clearly.

• 40:24Speaker 17

  And all because people think they know what they're talking about. They gotta cause all this extra drama. Well, we will fight. We will. We will fight because they will not go back where they were from.

• 40:38Annie Elise?

  Now, on top of all of that, they also made some really intense claims about what life for Cody and Emma had been like when they were in Rose's custody. Now, I want to give a very huge disclaimer here. Everything that they said was alleged, as far as I can tell. None of it was ever proven. But I also can't sit here today and say that no mistreatment occurred when they were with Rose, because I wasn't there, I don't know. However, despite that argument, the courts felt that Rose was the safer place for them, and she was granted emergency custody. Rose went on to say in an interview with NBC News that Cody later confided in her that the reason he didn't want to go with her was because Mike and Heather had told him that Rose threw him and Emma away like they were garbage.

• 41:21Annie Elise?

  Also, that Rose didn't love them anymore. Which, you have to remember, Cody was nine, Emma was 11. They were both incredibly young, super impressionable, probably believing that these two parents were telling them the truth. They thought of their parents as their protectors. They took their word for it. So for these two kids, nine and 11 years old, to hear, "Oh yeah, your mom, she didn't want you. She threw you away like garbage. She didn't even love you. She doesn't even love you now anymore," that is so evil. And honestly, who really knows what was said in that house? Or what they had experienced in the past with Rose? We don't know, but all we do know is the court did their due diligence, and they felt like it was a safer place for Rose to be with the kids than Heather and Mike.

• 42:06Speaker 18

  Rose, just interrupt me anytime you want, okay?

• 42:09Speaker 16

  Um.

• 42:10Speaker 18

  I think the update is...

• 42:12Speaker 16

  Emma and Cody are with me. I have emergency custody. Um, they're doing good. Um, they're getting back to their playful selves.

• 42:29Speaker 18

  And I think on Friday, about the same time that Mike and Heather were on USA Today with whatever spin on the issue at the moment, we were before the court and obtained emergency custody of the kids.

• 42:46Speaker 16

  Yes, sir.

• 42:47Speaker 18

  So that they'd be safe.

• 42:48Speaker 16

  Yes.

• 42:49Speaker 18

  And I think that the Frederick County Sheriff's Department, who deserve a kudos, assisted you in retrieving them, right?

• 42:57Speaker 16

  Yes, they did a great job. They helped my kids and got them back safely to me.

• 43:02Speaker 18

  And the Frederick County Circuit Court passed an emergency order?

• 43:06Speaker 16

  Yes, it did.

• 43:11Speaker 18

  I think the kids are sort of in a deprogramming sort of mode at the moment. Is that right?

• 43:17Speaker 16

  Yes, sir.

• 43:18Annie Elise?

  Now, get this. Instead of putting the freaking camera down for a second and actually trying to better themselves and like be decent humans and good parents like they claimed that they were doing on a multitude of different media interviews, Heather and Mike just kept making videos. Business as usual.

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• 44:27Annie Elise?

  So after Mike and Heather lost custody of Mike's two children, Emma and Cody, they made a video of the two of them telling Heather's oldest son about it. Weird.

• 44:45Speaker 05

  What's wrong?

• 44:50Speaker 05

  Where?

• 44:53Speaker 05

  Police came and they took that money too. Where are they taking them? To Rose.

• 45:01Speaker 05

  They can't do that. They're doing it.

• 45:04Annie Elise?

  Again, nobody told them to pick up a camera, nobody told them to prank their kids in cruel ways, and the fact that they just continued posting very vulnerable moments of their kids' lives, even after they were clearly in trouble for it, it's just baffling to me. It's like there are no boundaries at all. There is no north star in any of this to where they even have a clue of how to go the right way and proceed. And as far as Heather's reaction in that video goes, I mean, she knew that the camera was on. She and Mike had already admitted that everything in their videos was exaggerated, staged, even everyone's emotions. So I guess with that and with that past admission,

• 45:44Annie Elise?

  I'm having a really difficult time believing that these tears are anything but crocodile tears. So after losing custody and continuing to post these ridiculous videos, Mike and Heather finally gave up on clearing their names. It seemed like they were just literally hanging on to their fame and their notoriety by a thread, hoping that maybe one day everybody would just forget about what they had done and what had happened and things would just go back to normal. That was their hope. But they likely knew that things were going south through views, exposure, income, all the different ways you could, you know, measure that. So they finally made the decision to delete all of their videos.

• 46:25Annie Elise?

  However, as I know, you know, many of us know, the internet is forever. And you can still find a number of their videos re-uploaded online. So deleting these videos, it isn't going to save Mike and Heather. Now, as for the other three kids, the ones that Heather shared with her ex, it appears that they stayed in Mike and Heather's custody. I did see one source tossing around online rumors that they were possibly removed from the home too, but I couldn't find anything credible to back that up. And finally, after a few months of investigating, Mike and Heather were each charged with two misdemeanor counts of child neglect against Emma and Cody. And investigators said that they believed that they had enough evidence to show that Mike and Heather had caused mental injury to them.

• 47:10Annie Elise?

  Which, instead of fighting in court, Mike and Heather both entered Alfred pleas, which essentially meant that they weren't pleading guilty or admitting to anything, but they were accepting that there was in fact enough evidence against them for a conviction. Now, with those charges, they could have faced up to five years in prison per count, so 10 years in total. But guess what? They were only given five years of supervised probation. And during that probation period, they had to follow a few different specific rules. The main ones being that they weren't allowed to have any contact with Cody or Emma unless it was court-approved. They also weren't allowed to film any videos or post them online, which, it's important to mention, they didn't even follow those rules.

• 47:53Annie Elise?

  Rose and her attorney had to reach out to the courts because Mike and Heather had created an alternate YouTube account called Mommy05 this time. How original. And they had posted old archived videos of Emma and Cody on that account. Which you've got to be really freaking dumb to do that. You clearly took an Alfred plea because you knew that there was enough evidence to, you know, convict you of those charges. But now you're going to have the balls to re-upload those videos and like... You're not reading the room and realizing those videos were bad. It's awful. But what's even more awful is shockingly, after not even following their probation, they still managed to get their sentence reduced to something called probation before judgment,

• 48:36Annie Elise?

  which basically some first time offenders can get this instead of getting a more formal conviction as long as they follow a probation-like set of rules. So when I looked this up, it said that it was usually given to first time offenders of quote, minor crimes, which I personally wouldn't think that what they did was a minor crime. That's just me, I guess, though. But the other thing with all of this is that they didn't follow their probation before this. So now giving them essentially more probation makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. But again, I'm not in the court system. That's just me. They still weren't allowed to have contact with the kids if it wasn't court approved, but they were allowed to request that their neglect charges be expunged after three years,

• 49:19Annie Elise?

  which is just such an injustice, in my opinion. And it also has to make you wonder, why were Emma and Cody the primary targets? They did this against all of their kids, but was it because they were Heather's kids? And we've seen that in other cases, right? Where unfortunately, a child ends up being killed by one of the spouses. Or but like, if it's a blended family, we've seen that where sometimes it's the it's one parent's set of children who are isolated and targeted more than the others. So is that what was happening here? And she was rolling along with it because Mike didn't want to do like the harsher stuff to his kids? I don't know.

• 49:59Annie Elise?

  But what I do know is that now, all these years later, Mike and Heather are still posting online, more specifically on TikTok. Now, they don't have anywhere near the following that they once had, and some of their TikToks are just random things and some are attempts to clear their names. But they still are posting. And I tried to find the mommy05 YouTube, but I couldn't find it. So I'm assuming that maybe YouTube eventually took that account down along with the daddy05 one. I don't know. But in May of 2025, Heather posted a TikTok with the entire family in it. Emma, Cody, even Rose. And she put the caption, "So yeah, dot, dot, like Cody said, fuck off. Y'all have turned our lives upside down for eight years and it's time we take our power back.

• 50:44Annie Elise?

  We've healed, we've grown, and we're ready to move on." When the internet thinks they know more about your life than you do.

• 50:52Speaker 08

  What's up, everybody? So. Come here, boys. Get in here, get in here, get in here. Oh, you know what? Come here. Come on, Cody and Emma.

• 51:06Speaker 08

  Come here, Rose. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on, get in here. Come on. Mom's in the front. We just want you all to know. Cody's got something to say.

• 51:21Speaker 10

  Can we have a saloon?

• 51:24Speaker 08

  It's all done. It's washed.

• 51:28Speaker 10

  There might be kids watching. Just tell her how you feel. Fuck off?

• 51:36Speaker 08

  It's all done. So, like he does that. Fuck off? Please, there you go. There you go.

• 51:44Annie Elise?

  So I don't know, I guess that seems to be the ending of their story from their perspective. I guess everyone is just back together and I don't know, functioning as one big family unit. But it still doesn't change what happened. Mike and Heather were still charged with child neglect. They still faced a ton of backlash for the horrific things that they did online against their own children. And it makes you ask the question, what about all of these kids who grow up with a camera shoved in their face? They aren't old enough yet to realize the magnitude of what happened to them and the childhood that was stripped away from them. All they see at that age is, oh, yeah, you want a brand new car? Let me shove this camera in your face. That's how we're gonna get it, honey. You want a brand new dollhouse? Here's how we're gonna get it. And of course, as a child, you're not thinking of the harm that it's doing.

• 52:28Annie Elise?

  You're like, yeah, I want my dollhouse. Yeah, I want a new car, this and that. And it's like, it's your job as the parent to be the responsible adult and be able to decipher right from wrong. And to me, they just look like a bunch of sleazy, skeezy opportunists, truly. And unfortunately, cases like this one, and even more well-known ones like Ruby Frankie, they're not going to be the last time that we hear about all of the disturbing things that are being done off-camera. I mean, if they are willing to publicize how bad these things were on-camera, I can only imagine what was happening when the camera wasn't rolling, when the record button wasn't on. So, I don't know, it's just, it's wild to think about. And honestly, the only silver lining in all of this is that it allowed

• 53:12Annie Elise?

  people to step in sooner. So, I don't know, did you see all of this as it was going down? I can't believe this wasn't on my radar sooner, but it definitely is giving Ruby Frankie vibes. So, I hope that these kids, even though it seems like they're all a big happy family now, I'm sure as they get older and realize things, they'll look back and I would imagine they will harbor some resentment. I think it would be hard not to, but I'm just hoping that they heal from this because no kid should ever have to go through any of this and be, you know, served up on a silver platter online in such a disparaging way. I mean, let me go back and read you again some of these titles here, and like, which is just so sick.

• 53:54Annie Elise?

  But we have Cody Bad in School, Cody Ruined Family Night, Cody Put Up for Adoption. It's like, Cody was nine years old. How sick are you? It's, I could go on and on. It just makes me frickin' enraged. So, I know this one was a little bit different than some of the cases we traditionally cover, but equally important, especially given, you know, the influencer culture that's out there, vlogging culture, and just how dangerous it really can become and what a slippery slope it is when people get greedy. So, thank you guys so much for tuning in, and I will be back with you again with another case soon. Until the next one, be nice, don't kill people, and keep your kids off your vlogs, you weirdos. Alright, bye.

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