Transform Your Mind To Manifest & Attract Financial Abundance w/ Dr Joe Dispenza EP 1288

Dr. Joe Dispenza is an international speaker, researcher, author, and educator who is passionate about the findings from the fields of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics to explore the science behind spontaneous remissions. He uses that knowledge to help people heal themselves of illness, chronic conditions, and even terminal diseases so they can enjoy a more fulfilled and happy life as well as evolve their consciousness. In this episode you will learn:How to remember your future. How your personality changes your personal reality. Why your mindset around money is limited. How to manifest financial abundance. For more, go to Lewishowes.com/1288 Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:00Joe Dispenza?

  I think it's so important for people to remember that they're the creators of their lives instead of the victim of their lives, right? So the victim is saying, "I'm feeling this way because that person or that circumstance, or I don't have any money is causing me to feel this way. This is my relationship with money." What that really means is, "I'm using my lack to reaffirm my dependency, my addiction, my conditioning. That's my relationship with money, is that I put my attention on money because I don't have it."

• 0:31Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest, the legendary Joe Dispenza, in the house. So good to see you, man. Every time you come on, people are wowed, they're inspired, they transform their lives from the inside out, and they truly heal.

• 1:12Lewis Howes?

  And I think healing is something that people need more than ever now from the mind, you know, which is causing a lot of the sickness, the disease in their bodies and in their life, and their relationships, and their financial breakdown, and their spiritual breakdown. So I'm so glad you're here, so grateful that you're on this mission to help heal people and help people transform their lives. One of the things that is the scariest thing for people is that I feel like they're sick around is around money. And the idea of money, how money plays a part in their emotions, how it plays a part in their thoughts, in their self-worth and their identity, whether they have a lot of it, they attach their identity or their self-worth or their love to their bank account. If they don't have that much of it, they attach their identity or self-worth to the lack.

• 1:59Lewis Howes?

  And I haven't seen you do an interview around money as a concept, on the psychology of money, and how this plays a part in our lives.

• 2:07Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 2:07Lewis Howes?

  And we're gonna get to a second part of this, really covering more of the research you've done, and all the transformational and healing work, but I'm curious, what is your thoughts around the identity of money, and the psychology of how it plays in our lives? Because a lot of people wanna make more, they wanna attract more, but they're just struggling with just the concept of it.

• 2:29Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah. Well, I think we've been programmed quite a bit with our relationship with money. And we have a relationship with everything known in our environment. You have a relationship, a neurological network in your brain, for your parents, for your cellphone, for your computer, where you live, where you've lived in the past, what you're gonna do tomorrow. That, for the most part, the brain is a reflection of everything that we know, right? So, along with that is our relationship with money. And I feel like I have a really good relationship with money, because I work on having a really good relationship with everything in my life.

• 3:04Lewis Howes?

  Did you always have a good relationship with money?

• 3:05Joe Dispenza?

  I think so, I think so. I've never really lived in lack, that just wasn't part of it. Even when I went to college, and I had to take out student loans and stuff, I always figured out a way to always be a little bit ahead of the curve. And so, so, let's back up and just look at how people form beliefs. Because most beliefs are created from past experiences, right? So, children, when they're in their early ages, their brainwaves are very slow. Like, their brainwaves are in alpha, when they're like seven to 12, they're in theta, when they're like two to six years old, and they're in delta, like when they're, you know, newborn to two years old.

• 3:50Joe Dispenza?

  And so, these brainwave states are states that were really suggestible to information.

• 3:56Lewis Howes?

  So, when we hear information, we believe it?

• 3:58Joe Dispenza?

  No, we accept it, we believe it, we surrender to it as if it's the truth, without analyzing it, because there's no analytical facilities yet.

• 4:06Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 4:07Joe Dispenza?

  The analytical mind starts around 12 or so, seven to 12, and that analytical mind is actually what creates a barrier between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind.

• 4:15Lewis Howes?

  So, before 12, roughly? What we see, how we model our parents' behavior.

• 4:21Joe Dispenza?

  It's all being programmed subconsciously, right? And so, so that's really, really important because if you heard money is the root of all evil. Uh, money is bad. Only certain people are allowed to make money. You have to work hard to make money. This is how you gotta do it. And that becomes the foundation subconsciously. Like, let's like, right, uh, recording an audio file. You just keep recording that audio file. It becomes a subconscious program, right? So a lot of people have a relationship with money based on either what they've been told or what they've experienced in their outer environment, right?

• 5:04Joe Dispenza?

  So, so then we gain information from our environment. And the stronger the emotion we feel from experiences in our lives, the more altered we feel inside of us, the more the brain freezes a frame and takes a picture. And that snapshot is called a memory, so.

• 5:21Lewis Howes?

  Based on an emotion.

• 5:22Joe Dispenza?

  Based on emotion. The emotion alters our internal state. So you're going along as Louis feeling really good. And all of a sudden, you have this trauma, you have this crisis, you have this shock. And all of a sudden, you have this dramatic change in your internal state and your senses get heightened. And then you freeze the frame and you associate this internal state with whatever it is that's causing it, right? And that's how we create long-term memories, right?

• 5:43Lewis Howes?

  Are painful memories more, uh, powerful or beautiful memories more powerful?

• 5:49Joe Dispenza?

  Uh, they're both equal.

• 5:51Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 5:51Joe Dispenza?

  They're both equal. But, but the problem is, I think, most people experience more the negative emotions, right? And those negative emotions really are derived from the hormones of stress, right? So the alarm system, the emergency system creates an arousal, you know, inwardly. And that arousal is saying there's something dangerous in your outer environment, right? And it could be a person, a circumstance, an accident or whatever. And that, that change in emotional state causes you to remember the event. You gotta pay attention, right? You gotta stay really, and narrow your focus on the cause. So, so think about people who have relationships with money, right? From the past. All beliefs are based on past experiences. So you have an experience where you lose money.

• 6:34Joe Dispenza?

  You have an experience where, uh, money's taken away from you. You have an experience where you don't have enough. You're living in a place where there's not enough money or a family that's not enough money. Then the emotion that most people are living by in a moment-to-moment basis is lack. Like, I'm in lack of having something that I want, okay? Now, there's nothing wrong with that, because the experience changes your emotional state. You freeze the frame, you take a picture. The problem is, that's hardware. So, we think neurologically within the circuits of that past experience, and we feel chemically within the boundaries of that emotion, which would, say, for example, be lack, right? So now, the person says-

• 7:15Lewis Howes?

  Before you go on to the next thing, what happens to the body and the mind when it is in an environment of lack? Mentally or physically, I'm in lack. What is, what is the body and the mind saying?

• 7:25Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, so the body is saying, "I'm waiting for some external event to occur." "I win the lottery." "I marry the right guy." Whatever it is, that, you're waiting for that event to occur. That experience produces an emotion. So, the emotion then takes away the lack. And so, when we play the game in three-dimensional reality, the creation game in three-dimensional reality, we experience separation from everyone and everything, because our, our senses fool us into the illusion, the hallucination of separation. "I'm here and you're there." "I'm here and the door is over there." So, I'm aware that I'm here at one point of consciousness,

• 8:09Joe Dispenza?

  and the door is over there, another point of consciousness, okay? So, in order for me to get from here to the door, I gotta move my body and do something through space. I gotta do something, and everything in this three-dimensional reality is gonna take time and energy, right? So, okay, so then here's, here's Lewis, right here. And then he says, "Okay, I want this experience in my future, and your brain automatically predicts and projects how far in the future you think it's gonna take."

• 8:37Lewis Howes?

  Maybe it's a year, five years, ten years.

• 8:39Joe Dispenza?

  Thirty years.

• 8:39Lewis Howes?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 8:40Joe Dispenza?

  Right? Because that's what it's gonna take to pay off that house, right? So, now, one point of consciousness, I'm here. The other point of consciousness is where I'm placing my dreams. So, I'm in separate from that experience. So, then, how do I get to that experience? In three-dimensional reality, you gotta get up and you gotta do something. You gotta go to work. You gotta drive to work, it takes energy. You gotta fill your car with gas, you gotta eat food, you gotta work, you know, all this stuff. You gotta sleep, you gotta recover if there's stress. And now, people are- In a sense, waiting for the experience that's ten years down the road or thirty years down the road to happen, to take away the lack of them not having it. And unfortunately, many times when the experience finally occurs, they can't enjoy it because they're too exhausted, right?

• 9:24Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 9:25Joe Dispenza?

  So then, so you play the game. You go to school. You study really hard, or you study on your own. You develop some skills. You make the right choices. You start saving money. You start learning from your mistakes. And then the game is, how many things can you accumulate? And that accumulation, then, you associate with being wealthy or being abundant or being successful, right? And some people get really good at it, right? You can get really good at that. But for the most part, though, when we create from three-dimensional reality, we're creating from lack and separation. In other words, you're driving down the road and you see someone driving a car that all of a sudden you realize that you don't have. The moment you become aware that that person has that car

• 10:10Joe Dispenza?

  and you don't have it, you're in lack of having it, right? So what the brain naturally does is it naturally creates you driving that car. And you have an image of yourself driving that car and you start identifying, wow, that would be a greater experience for me to have. The problem is, the distance between the thought of what you want and the experience of actually happening it, happening for most people, is the concept called time, right? Between cause and effect, right? So some people develop the ability to manage themselves and manage their life. They develop certain skills and they can pay for it and they can get it very quickly. The problem is, when the novelty of that experience wears off, you know, the car, and they're no longer identifying with that,

• 10:53Joe Dispenza?

  and the feeling of emptiness and lack comes back.

• 10:56Lewis Howes?

  They need to find something else.

• 10:57Joe Dispenza?

  They gotta go find something else. And so there's this game that goes on where you never have enough, right? And that's the lack game, right? So then, if you think about people having the things they want in their life, when they create from lack and separation, it's the experience in three-dimensional reality that produces the emotion. And the emotion is saying, "Let's feel and experience this thing that you've been in lack and separation from." And that emotion then takes away the lack or separation. But you've worked really hard to get it, okay? Nothing wrong with that. Is there another way to do it?

• 11:30Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 11:31Joe Dispenza?

  Okay. So, the person who's living in lack is waiting for their wealth to feel abundant. They're waiting for their success to feel empowered. They're waiting for their healing to feel gratitude. They're waiting for their new relationship to feel love. They're waiting for their mystical experience to feel awe. That's the Newtonian model of reality of cause and effect. Waiting for that event to happen to take away this separation or lack. Nothing wrong with it. It's the way most people create. But what we've discovered is actually something else. The moment you feel gratitude, your healing begins. The moment you feel worthy and abundant, you're generating wealth.

• 12:15Joe Dispenza?

  The moment you're empowered, you are moving towards your success. The moment you're in love with yourself and you're in love with life, you'll create an equal. The moment you are in awe of life, you're going to have a mystical experience. And so, that's causing and effect, right? So then, if you can teach people then, how to create instead of from lack or separation, but create from wholeness, and create from what we call the quantum field, instead of three-dimensional reality.

• 12:48Lewis Howes?

  What's the difference?

• 12:49Joe Dispenza?

  Okay, so, the way you... First of all, it takes knowledge, okay? The quantum field is an invisible field of energy that exists beyond our senses. You can't see it, you can't smell it, you can't taste it, you can't hear it, you can't feel it. It exists beyond our experience of three-dimensional reality.

• 13:07Lewis Howes?

  Would this be in our mind's consciousness? Or would this be in a different space?

• 13:12Joe Dispenza?

  Okay, let's look at that. So, the answer to the question is, how much of your waking day do you put your attention on matter, on the material world? And how much of your waking day are you aware of energy and frequency? For most people, they're unaware of the quantum field. And if you're unaware of it... It doesn't exist for you. Just like you have a nose, but if you're unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. The moment you become aware of it, it exists. Well, the quantum field, you can ask, you could study all kinds of science and they'll tell you there is this invisible field of frequency and energy that exists beyond the senses that tend to connect everything physical and material. In fact, everything physical and material is connected to this field.

• 13:55Joe Dispenza?

  Okay, so how do you get there? Right? How do you get there? How do you get there? How do you get there? So we discovered that when you take all of your attention off your body and you are not paying attention to your emotions, your drives, your habits, if you could take all of your attention off of every element in your environment, your cellphone, your tablet, your computer, your car, your, whatever it is, your bed, take your attention away from everything, every place that you live, where you sleep, or you work, and you're not thinking about time. You're not thinking about your schedule, where you need to be, or what happened yesterday. You can relax into the present moment.

• 14:40Joe Dispenza?

  There tends to be a dramatic change in the way the brain functions when people do this properly. We call it getting beyond yourself, but in a sense, you're dissociating from your three-dimensional reality. Why? Because if you're thinking about anything in your three-dimensional reality, that's where your attention is and that's where your energy is. Okay, so we kind of figured out this formula. When people really become nobody, no one, no thing, nowhere, no time, we are pretty much all of a sudden outside the constraints of the Newtonian world of got to do something to get an outcome. And if you can teach people how to linger there without a name, without a face, without a profession, without a family, without a culture,

• 15:22Joe Dispenza?

  without a past, without a disease, you teach them how to be in this place we call the unknown. Right? And you teach them that from that place, that invisible field, is where everything material comes from. And if they could create coherence in their brain, you need a strong signal in the brain. The more coherent the brain, the more stronger the signal. What do you mean a strong signal? Okay, let's see how I could say this. When most people, we look at, when we look at brains in real time and we're looking at people's, how their, how their mind is working. When you're under stress, okay, stress is created by not being able to predict something that's gonna happen in your life. The perception that something's gonna get worse, or you can't control something, right?

• 16:07Joe Dispenza?

  So, when that occurs, we switch on that primitive nervous system called the fight-or-flight nervous system, and the brain goes into this very alarmed state called high beta. That means, pay attention to the outer world, there's danger out there. So it's, but if it's not a predator, and it's traffic, or your coworker, or your ex. Right. This is where it gets to be a problem, because it becomes very maladaptive, right? So, when we're in that state, and the brain is that, in that aroused state, we try to control and predict everything, so every person, every object, everything, every place, every, even your body, has a neurological network in your brain, right? So, as the arousal happens, we start shifting our attention to all these elements, and like

• 16:49Joe Dispenza?

  a lightning storm, in the clouds, the brain starts firing very, very incoherently. And when the brain's incoherent, we're incoherent. So, that's not a strong signal. That's not, there's, it's a static on the, that's disconnection, there is no signal. Right. So, when we're in that state, we're always really looking for the worst-case scenario of what's gonna happen, because if you prepare for the worst, anything less happens, a better chance of survival, right? So, so, in this kind of aroused state, as we shift our attention to each one of these elements that are known in our environment, the brain starts compartmentalizing and firing out of order, and, and, and that is what creates what's called autonomic dysregulation. That's causes the brain and body to get really out of balance, right?

• 17:32Joe Dispenza?

  So, in that state, we're, we're over-focused, you know, when you're stressed, you're over-focused on something, you can't stop thinking about it. Our research... Shows that when you do that, you actually make your brain worse. Because you're analyzing your problems within some disturbing emotion. And that emotion is driving you further out of balance. You're actually knocking your brain and body out of balance by thought alone. And you're driving it into these more aroused states, right?

• 18:00Lewis Howes?

  For someone that's been living like that for decades, that's their base state. How do they even realize how to get out of that?

• 18:07Joe Dispenza?

  They don't. Usually it takes crisis, right? It takes trauma.

• 18:10Lewis Howes?

  Extreme breakdown.

• 18:11Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, breakdown.

• 18:12Lewis Howes?

  A loss, a death, a breakup, a divorce.

• 18:15Joe Dispenza?

  Bankruptcy, whatever it is, a disease, a diagnosis, whatever. Something where you just can't go on business as usual. Now it's time to really start looking.

• 18:23Lewis Howes?

  They have to wake up.

• 18:24Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah. So, so let's get back to the concept of abundance here because...

• 18:30Lewis Howes?

  You need a strong signal in this field.

• 18:31Joe Dispenza?

  Right, so then if you can teach people to do the exact opposite, go from putting all of their attention on everything physical and material in the world of separation. And instead of narrowing their focus on something material, ask them to broaden their focus and put it on nothing. Now, I know that sounds kind of crazy, but when you put your attention on space and you divert your attention, the act of sensing without thinking actually starts to slow the brainwaves down. Not only slow it down, but all of a sudden cause the brain to start reintegrating. Starts to synchronize, right? And so you see different compartments of the brain

• 19:14Joe Dispenza?

  that were firing out of order start to resonate. They start to communicate. They're all of a sudden synchronizing. And what sinks in the brain kind of links in the brain. So when a person has their whole entire brain firing in rhythm, that's a very strong signal that you can send out into the field.

• 19:32Lewis Howes?

  So when that signal is strong in that position, what can you create from that space?

• 19:35Joe Dispenza?

  Okay, so, but that's only one element.

• 19:37Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 19:38Joe Dispenza?

  So then the clear intention tends to be a very important element that we have to have to get down. And the more coherent the brain... The more clear the signal for that intention. So with intention and attention, we could actually make thought more real than anything else. Now, what is that? You're saying, what would it be like to be wealthy? What would it be like to be abundant? What would it be like to have all my needs met? What would it be like to have more than I need? What would I do if I had everything I ever wanted? The answer always is the same. You start giving stuff away. Because if an abundant person is truly abundant, why would they hold on? They would say, I'm not in lack. There's more for everybody, okay?

• 20:20Joe Dispenza?

  Turns out, though, that the signal sent out isn't enough. You're gonna have to draw the experience back to you.

• 20:27Lewis Howes?

  You send the signal out to, you know,

• 20:28Joe Dispenza?

  Coherent brain.

• 20:29Lewis Howes?

  Financial freedom, abundance, all these different things.

• 20:32Joe Dispenza?

  Right, right, right. Whatever that is for you.

• 20:34Lewis Howes?

  Putting that out there with the signal, with the intention and the attention.

• 20:38Joe Dispenza?

  Right.

• 20:39Lewis Howes?

  And then how do you draw it to you? So in the physical world,

• 20:42Joe Dispenza?

  In the physical world, you gotta go get it. You gotta do something. This is the plane of demonstration. You gotta go get it. And when you're in lack until it occurs, right?

• 20:50Lewis Howes?

  But I'm hearing you say there's a way to not chase but attract.

• 20:53Joe Dispenza?

  All right, so if you're creating from the field instead of from matter, right? There's a very strong possibility that you'll shorten the distance between the thought of what you want and the experience of having it. And when there's a vibrational match between your energy and that future that you want to experience, now, if you're creating from the field, you actually don't go anywhere to get it. You actually draw it to you. So here comes the synchronicities, the serendipities, the coincidences, the opportunities. And they come out of nowhere. And you say, "I don't understand. I didn't do anything." Well, you changed your energy. And so then, the other element

• 21:36Joe Dispenza?

  is a coherent heart, right? And the heart has a magnetic signature. And the magnetic signature is what draws reality to us, right? So you combine that clear intention with the coherent brain. Now, here's the key. This takes practice.

• 21:54Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 21:54Joe Dispenza?

  Because the person who's living in lack is usually unworthy, is usually insecure, is usually in their past. They're usually frustrated. They're usually impatient. They're usually resentful. Because nothing's changing out there because it's taking too long. Well, that's, everything takes a lot of time when you do matter to matter, right? So then if you teach them, okay. We know all about that. We know the story behind it. We know what your parents told you about money, all that other, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. But now, let's do something that would be really cool. Let's, let's write down the feelings of how you would feel

• 22:34Joe Dispenza?

  if that future happened, and you're going to have to feel that feeling before it occurs. So now, okay, what does an abundant person feel? Pretty much free, a lot of freedom.

• 22:48Lewis Howes?

  Free, peace, excited, joyful.

• 22:51Joe Dispenza?

  In love with life, grateful to be alive, abundant. Okay, now, let's practice feeling those. Turns out, when you're feeling those other emotions like resentment and impatience and frustration, you're stepping on the gas pedal, just turning on the sympathetic nervous system, and you're stepping on the brake.

• 23:10Lewis Howes?

  At the same time.

• 23:10Joe Dispenza?

  At the same time, which is, you're angry, you're frustrated, but the fight or flight nervous system says run, fight, or hide, and you're sitting at a Zoom meeting, and your neck is pulsating is because the heart is beating against the closed system, right? You're not, you're not using it in an adaptive way. So, the heart starts firing out of order, it starts firing incoherently, and incoherent waves cancel each other out. It's called destructive interference, and then we stop trusting our future. Energy leaves the heart. Energy leaves the brain, energy leaves the heart. You can't get in touch with the feeling of your future because in survival, so those are hormones of stress, all those emotions, in survival, it's not a time to create, right? It's time to run, fight, and hide.

• 23:52Joe Dispenza?

  Okay, so we gotta lay down the very thing we used our whole life to get what we want. The habit of doing it that way for something greater to occur, okay?

• 24:01Lewis Howes?

  And what happens if we create, try to create from survival emotions?

• 24:05Joe Dispenza?

  It just takes a long time. You, you'll just force it.

• 24:08Lewis Howes?

  Little, little steps at a time.

• 24:10Joe Dispenza?

  You'll force it, you'll, you'll force it, you'll fight for it, you'll compete for it, you'll manipulate, you'll cheat, you'll lie. You'll do anything to get what you want because that's what matter does when it's trying to change matter. And everybody's, everybody's playing that game, right? Everybody's trying to accumulate the most amount of things. Okay, so that's what abundance means to certain people, get as many things as you can, okay? You want that? Not a problem, but let's learn the formula of how to create, right? Yes. So then, so then you'd have to feel those emotions before the experience occurred. And if you understood that you could dissociate all of your attention from this three-dimensional reality and have no attention on anything known, and understand it's the field that

• 24:54Joe Dispenza?

  creates matter, not matter that emits the field, and if you could get to that place and change your energy with a clear intention and elevated emotion, your heart starts beating in this beautiful rhythm like a drum. We've measured it so many times, and when that occurs, the next thing that happens, the heart informs the brain, it's safe to create now. So the person relaxes into the present moment, and then we see this, like if you took a big sheet, you know, and a blanket and you went like that, the energy of the heart actually informs the brain to move into these beautiful elegant states of alpha brainwave patterns, coherent alpha. And that's saying, what's the next dream? What is it the next, what's the next opportunity you want to experience?

• 25:38Joe Dispenza?

  That's a state of creation. So now you have a Wi-Fi signal. You got a coherent brain, that's a directive, that's a signal out, and you got this coherent heart, thus what draws it to us, right? You combine those two, and if there's a vibrational match between your energy and that potential in the quantum field, and you're feeling abundant, and whatever your brain associates with being abundant, that's your call. That's what the creative process is. This is the creative center. The brain, frontal lobe, actually says, what would it be like to be creative or abundant? I don't know what it'd be like to be abundant. Well, then go read a few books on people who actually became abundant and realized it wasn't a glorious process.

• 26:20Joe Dispenza?

  They failed miserably, they got betrayed, they learned a lot of lessons, but they persevered. And what are the qualities of that person that you could embody? That's the key, right? Because it's not about wealth, it's who you become, right? Because people think it's about their wealth, but it's the becoming process, it's the overcoming. That attracted that, right? Of course, so then... So then, you gotta turn the battleship around because most people say, "I can't feel grateful for my wealth because it hasn't happened yet." That's the hypnosis. Waiting for the experience to happen to feel grateful. Well, that's Newtonian, that's three-dimensional reality, that's cause and effect. In quantum, you gotta feel it in order for you to experience it. Okay?

• 27:03Joe Dispenza?

  So this heart becomes like an amplifier, and it sends that signal out, and that frequency can carry the thought of your abundance. Suffering cannot carry the thought of your abundance. Lack cannot carry the thought of your abundance. It's a different frequency, right? We feel different feelings like suffering, we think different thoughts, alright? So people can say, "I'm abundant, I'm abundant, I'm abundant, I'm abundant," all they want, but that thought is never making it to the body because it's stopping at the brainstem because the body's saying, "I'm miserable, I'm unhappy, I'm in lack." So the affirmation doesn't work, right? Okay, so let's go one step further.

• 27:37Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 27:38Joe Dispenza?

  So if you practiced this, and you actually understood, you know, well, we teach this pretty well, but if you learned it just like learning how to play handball, or learning how to hit a golf ball, learning how to dance a sol, so if you just practiced the form and you got really good at it, if you were doing it properly then, what would be the outcome? The experiment of being abundant would be that you would have to feel that feeling. It's so good at doing it with your eyes closed. You gotta do it with your eyes open. Now, why? Because if you're feeling the feelings of your emotions, of your future, you're no longer looking for them.

• 28:18Lewis Howes?

  Because you're in the future now.

• 28:20Joe Dispenza?

  Your body is so objective that it's believing it's living in that reality where you are abundant, and as long as you feel that emotion, you're not separate from it any longer, you're no longer in lack. You're no longer looking for it to occur, say, "Why hasn't it happened yet?" If you're feeling abundant, why would you look? Right? So then, our job then is to be able to maintain that modified state of mind and body. So, okay, so does that mean like you should check your bank account tomorrow and see if there's a half a million dollars in it? No. You keep tuning into that potential, and then here come the synchronicities. Yes. What's that? That's feedback in your environment. The universe is saying, "Hey, Lewis, whatever you're doing, all of a sudden, you're starting to create," right?

• 29:04Joe Dispenza?

  And I think it's so important for people to remember that they're the creators of their lives instead of the victim of their lives, right? So the victim is saying, "I'm feeling this way because that person or that circumstance, or I don't have any money is causing me to feel this way. That's my relationship with money." What that really means is, I'm using my lack to reaffirm my dependency, my addiction, my conditioning. That's my relationship with money, is that I put my attention on money because I don't have it. So the relationship with money is, of course, built on lack. And so when they don't have it, they feel bad. And what they're really saying is, my outer environment, my reality, is actually controlling the way I feel and the way I think. So, "Lewis, why are you in a good mood today?

• 29:49Joe Dispenza?

  Things are going good. Why in a bad mood? Things are going bad today." So this unconscious program of victimization is saying that we're allowing our environment to influence the way we feel and the way we think. Isn't that what victimization is? And the stronger the emotion we have to our lack, the more we put our attention on the fact that we don't have it, right? So then the person has forgotten that they're creating reality because what they're creating is lack. And they're creating more of it. And then they try harder, and they force harder, and they control more. And they're more exhausted, and their body's tired. And they're breaking down, and right. So the experiment then is, let's try it another way. Let's create from the field instead of from matter. Get a coherent heart, get a coherent brain, relax in the heart, and energy moves right into the brain.

• 30:34Joe Dispenza?

  We've measured this a thousand times. And all of a sudden, the person moves into these beautiful, elegant brainwave states where they're super creative, right? So the longer you're conscious of that energy, the more you draw that future to you. So then, what does the synchronicity mean? It means whatever you're doing inside of you is producing that effect outside of you. Pay attention to what you did. Keep doing more of it. And do it again. So generate a little bit more abundance, just to afford experiment. Now, when the synchronicity happens, do you think you feel suffering, or do you think you feel a little excitement? You feel inspired, right? So then that synchronicity is saying, "Use this energy, use this feeling. It should be easier for you to feel this now, and go back and do it again. Keep the experiment going." And here comes the promotion, here comes the email,

• 31:18Joe Dispenza?

  here comes the person you meet at the right time.

• 31:20Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 31:20Joe Dispenza?

  Well, we have something happening here. And then that becomes the momentum, right? So then, we generate abundance. That's how we do it. And the relationship-

• 31:31Lewis Howes?

  It doesn't just happen by accident, we generate it.

• 31:34Joe Dispenza?

  We generate abundance, right? So then, if you have an hour meditation where you're tuning into your abundant future, but then you're spending the other 15 hours a day in lack, don't expect anything to change, you default it. You're back to the old energy. And if you say it's that person or that circumstance or that bank account, I'm gonna say you're back to the unconscious program of being a victim, right? So then, so then, so then let's go a step further. If your personality creates your personal reality, and it does, and your personality is made up of how you think, how you act, and how you feel, then the present personality who's listening to this podcast has created the present personal reality called their life. Nothing big there.

• 32:18Joe Dispenza?

  Which means if you wanna change your personal reality, you're gonna have to change your personality.

• 32:22Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 32:23Joe Dispenza?

  Nothing changes in your life until you change, right? So then, 95% of who we are is on autopilot, right? It's programmed thoughts, hardwired thoughts, beliefs, perceptions, unconscious habits and behaviors, and really, really emotional responses that tend to be really knee-jerk and automatic, right? So, if 95% of who we are is a set of unconscious programs, then the first step to change is becoming conscious of those unconscious thoughts. Now, people think when they sit down to do the work and make their change, that they're doing something wrong. No, those thoughts have to come up. "I can't, I'm not worthy, it's never gonna work."

• 33:05Joe Dispenza?

  But the person who's truly persevering towards their abundance realizes just because they have that thought, doesn't mean it's true. They're curious on what's on the other side of that thought. Ah, well, that's just a thought, right? And nerve cells that no longer fire together, no longer wire together. So you keep moving past that thought, it has less and less power over you, right? Now, you have power over it, or better yet, you're using your brain in the proper way, instead of being a victim to your brain, right? If you complain about money, if you judge people who have it, if you rush when you're in lack, if you cheat when you don't have what you need, an abundant person doesn't do that.

• 33:49Joe Dispenza?

  You gotta look at that and say, "I gotta break these habits." "Oh, my God, if I truly wanna be abundant, I can't act this way." Now, here's the big one.

• 34:00Joe Dispenza?

  If I truly wanna be a new personality that's in a new personal reality, I can't take lack with me. I can't take unworthiness. I can't take the story that goes along with it with my parents or my grandparents or my ex or whatever. That story has to end, right? I mean, if not now, when, right?

• 34:19Lewis Howes?

  How do people end those stories?

• 34:20Joe Dispenza?

  Well, of course. Well, how many times do we have to forget until we stop forgetting and start remembering? That's the game, right? That's the game called change. How many times we have to go unconscious and default to that old personality when we catch ourselves and stop doing that and get conscious? That's the moment of change. So, the problem is, is that most people wake up in the morning and they think, "Let me think of my problems," right? The brain has a record of the past, right? So, they think about their problems. They don't have enough money. And those problems are usually connected to certain people, at certain places, with certain objects and certain things.

• 34:54Lewis Howes?

  What didn't work out or who screwed me over.

• 34:56Joe Dispenza?

  So, the moment they wake up, the moment they remember those problems, they're thinking in the past. So, now they're firing and wiring the memory. They're keeping the memory of past alive in their mind. The problem is, every one of those memories has an emotion associated with it because we've experienced it. So, when they feel the lack, when they feel the unhappiness, when they feel the anxiety, now the body's in the past. Thoughts being the language of the brain, feelings being the language of the body, how we think and how we feel creates our state of being. But the conditioning process starts because conditioning only needs a thought and a feeling, a memory or an image and an emotion, and a stimulus and response.

• 35:38Joe Dispenza?

  And you're conditioning your body to become the mind of that emotion. And now, the memory's not in the brain. Now, the memory's buried subconsciously in the body. And the body becomes the mind of that emotion. So, the body is living in lack. And it's believing.

• 35:53Lewis Howes?

  The body is, is that through the nervous system? Or is that through?

• 35:56Joe Dispenza?

  Neurochemicals, everything. So, so, so the body's so objective that it does not know the difference between the real life experience that's creating the lack and the emotion that you're creating by thought alone called lack. The body's believing it's living the same past experience every day. It's, it, it, why? Because the end product of an experience is an emotion. Oh, well, if you, your life is changing, but you're still feeling lack. Don't expect anything to change. You, you won't even see it. You'll walk right past it. You're viewing your life through the lens of the past. Okay? So, okay, so then a person realizes that all their friends are making money and they're doing stuff. And they're like, wow, I'm really feeling lack now.

• 36:36Joe Dispenza?

  So then, when it no longer becomes about your abundance, and it becomes about your change, that's a valuable moment. When it's no longer about your healing, but it's about your change. I paid attention to a lot of people in, in the last couple of years tell their story. The people who heal in this work from cancers and all kinds of chronic health conditions and Parkinson's and strokes and paralysis and all kinds of things. Rare genetic disorders. It, it never was about, when they've really got in the game, it was never about their healing. It was about, what do I need to change in order to heal? When the game goes like that.

• 37:19Joe Dispenza?

  So then, the person who's feeling lack, on some level or another, it's not just in the mind, it's in the body, right?

• 37:27Lewis Howes?

  Let me say, let me hear you say that again. When someone's looking for abundance, it's never about the abundance? It's about the change they need to make for healing?

• 37:36Joe Dispenza?

  No, the, the, I'm using healing as an example.

• 37:39Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 37:39Joe Dispenza?

  But let's use abundance as an example. When, when you understand that you cannot get abundant. When it's no longer about the game called abundance, it's about the game called change. What do I need to change? The more I change, the more I'll be abundant.

• 37:54Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 37:55Joe Dispenza?

  So then it's no longer about why haven't, how come it hasn't happened? That's the old personality, separate from the experience, still in lack, asking that question.

• 38:02Lewis Howes?

  Which is creating your current reality.

• 38:04Joe Dispenza?

  Which is reaffirming it, because that's the lens you're perceiving it through. Okay, so.

• 38:09Lewis Howes?

  So we should be focusing more on what we need to change every moment as opposed to the abundance or the healing?

• 38:14Joe Dispenza?

  Well, the word meditation means to become familiar with. Sit with yourself long enough and not turn on your cellphone, not scroll through your social media, and do no TikTok, no emails, no, none of that stuff. Don't, just sit and close your eyes and, and watch the thoughts that come up. That's the exact reason why you're not abundant. Watch what you want to do when you're feeling lack, to take away the lack, and there's always something you would do to, to take it away. But, but sit with the lack and be curious on what's on the other side of it, right? Because the body's programmed into lack now, subconsciously, right? So, the emotion of lack drives our thoughts and drives our behaviors.

• 38:56Joe Dispenza?

  So it makes sense then, that if an emotion is a record of the past, then we're doing things habitually from the past. We're thinking in the past, right? So, so lower the volume to the emotion every time you notice lack comes up. And just like breaking any addiction, there's gonna be cravings, right? So, the body's going, hey Louis, it's been about two hours.

• 39:16Lewis Howes?

  You're so used to doing this thing.

• 39:17Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, you've been thinking, lacking thoughts about 150,000 times a day, and you're just gonna stop now. The body's gonna, the body's gonna start influencing the mind, saying, it's not gonna work. You're a loser, it didn't work before, it's too hard, everybody else.

• 39:31Lewis Howes?

  That's why it's so hard for people to like lose weight or get in shape, because you might try it for a few days, and then the cravings, or I'm tired, and I want to go default back into the old personality.

• 39:39Joe Dispenza?

  Right, because why? Because the body, which has been conditioned, the mind, the body is the unconscious mind. So the body's got used to the familiar feeling, even, they don't even know it's lack. It's just how they feel. It's not guilt. So, okay, let me finish. Okay, so the hardest part about all of this. Is making a different choice. And the moment you decide to make a different choice, get ready, it's gonna feel uncomfortable. Right. It's gonna feel unfamiliar. Your, your body's all of a sudden saying, "Hey Louis, uh, why don't you start thinking those same exact thoughts, do the same things, make the same choices, demonstrate the same behaviors, have the same experiences." So you could feel that feeling of lack, complain again to somebody, call somebody up and say how miserable your life is, right? And that's, that's the known, right?

• 40:21Joe Dispenza?

  So the body's always influencing the mind to return back to the familiar territory. The default. The default, okay. All right, so now the person says, "Okay, what thoughts do I not want?" What, what would an abundant person think this way? The people in our work that have created... I had a guy come to our event, I, I love this guy. He healed himself, he tried to take his life three times. When, he told me that when he came to our work, he didn't have $2 to rub together. He's worth hundreds of millions of dollars now. Wow. And he just keeps giving it away. Wow.

• 41:00Joe Dispenza?

  His, his lesson, his lesson was, and that wasn't the wealth, it was who he became. So it's the overcoming process that is the becoming process. Who did he become in that journey? Exactly. He had to get beyond all of those thoughts of his past, all the mistakes he made, all the things he did wrong, all the money he owed there, all of that. That was like, he just had to no longer be that person any longer. But he did say, "How would a wealthy person live?" And, and, and when he created his wealth, what do you think the first thing he did? Started giving? Giving it away. Why? Cause an abundant person doesn't have any lack. And he knows how to create more of it. And that's, he's in the experiment.

• 41:44Joe Dispenza?

  Well, what would happen if I keep giving it away? He keeps getting more. That's a good experiment to have, cause he is actually living in that abundant state. He also had tremendous healings taking place, because when you heal your heart, you heal your mind. I mean, it's just the way it is. We saw it so many times, right? So, he healed his heart. He got an upgrade, he got an upgrade, right? So then, the next fundamental question is, how would an abundant person think? Write it down, dude, and fire and wire those thoughts in your brain, and install the hardware. Keep doing it with attention and intention, it becomes the new voice in your head, it becomes a software program. Then say, "Okay."

• 42:24Joe Dispenza?

  ¿Cómo voy a ser en mi vida hoy? ¿Cómo se comportaría una persona abundante? Y antes de que te acerques a tu teléfono celular y empieces a escoger tus redes sociales, cierra tus ojos y rehecha en tu mente cómo esa persona caminaría, cómo respiraría, cómo sonreiría, cómo saludaría a la gente, cómo estaría en llamadas Zoom, cómo estaría en el tráfico, cómo estaría en la cena. Y el acto de cerrar tus ojos y rehechar mentalmente el acto, si estás realmente presente, el cerebro no sabe la diferencia entre la experiencia de la vida real y lo que estás imaginando. De hecho, solo un poco de tiempo empiezas a instalar el hardware neurológico para parecer que ya lo has hecho. Ahora el cerebro ya no es un registro del pasado, está preparado para el futuro.

• 43:08Joe Dispenza?

  Continúa haciéndolo, continúa rehejándolo. No es diferente a jugar un instrumento, no es diferente a aprender a bailar, no es diferente a aprender a actuar o a jugar a un deporte. Todo el mundo siempre está rehejando, ¿verdad? El proceso de rehecho cambia el cerebro para parecer que ya lo has hecho, que ya lo has experimentado. ¿Cuál es la parte esencial de eso? El hardware está en marcha. Ahora todo lo que tienes que hacer es entrar en el huésped. Continúa haciéndolo, se convierte en un programa de software. Empiezas a actuar como una persona abundante. Todo cambia. Tu energía cambia, tu estado de ánimo cambia, la forma en que caminas, la forma en que respiras, tu postura cambia. Estás fuera del conocimiento, ¿verdad? Sí. Tienes que condicionar el cuerpo ahora emocionalmente hacia el futuro. No puedes abrir tus ojos en la mañana

• 43:51Joe Dispenza?

  hasta que te sientas digno de recibir. Y si no te sientes digno de recibir, entonces si no, ¿cuándo? Si te toma dos horas llegar allí, pregúntame si es digno de 30 años de correr tratando de conseguir lo que necesitas de la materia. Está bien, entonces la persona que lucha con su carencia, están fuera de los cuadernos y están en el campo de juego. Pero esto es lo que aprendimos. Esto es lo que aprendimos. Vamos a volver a las creencias ahora. Así que recuerda, la creencia es solo el pensamiento que continúas pensando una y otra vez. Una creencia es algo que continúas pensando lo suficiente veces que te lo has fijado en tu cerebro y se convierte en un programa automático. Y tenemos creencias sobre todo tipo de cosas: dinero, relaciones, Dios, lo que sea. Todo esto está basado en lo que nos han dicho

• 44:35Joe Dispenza?

  o en nuestras experiencias pasadas, ¿verdad? The boundaries of those beliefs are our emotions, right? So, let's just say you got betrayed, or somebody abused you, or your father told you that money was bad and there's never enough of it, or whatever. That's a story, okay? But somehow it left an impression on you, remember that event very clearly, and that's kind of rooted in who you are, right? Okay, so that emotion then is the boundary of our belief, okay? So, how you think and how you feel creates your state of being. If you take a thought and a feeling, a thought and a feeling, a thought and a feeling, a thought and a feeling, it's called an attitude. A series of good thoughts with a series of good feelings, you say, "I have a good attitude today." You have a series of negative thoughts that are connected to a series of negative feelings,

• 45:20Joe Dispenza?

  you say, "I have a bad attitude today." So attitudes are just shortened states of being. Good attitude in the morning, bad attitude in the afternoon. If you take an attitude, an attitude, an attitude, and you keep those up, and you string attitudes together, you create what's called a belief. And a belief is just an extended state of being. So if you keep thinking the same thought, you keep hardwiring it in the brain, you keep feeling the same feeling, you keep conditioning in your body, the redundancy of that cycle, over and over again, conditions the body to subconsciously become the mind of that belief. And all beliefs are subconscious states of being, okay? Take a belief, a belief, a belief, and you string them together, you form what's called a perception.

• 46:02Joe Dispenza?

  And perceptions are just such extended states of being that we're unconscious. And so then we edit out reality. In fact, most people don't see things the way they are. They see things the way they are, right? And people are always filling in reality unconsciously based on their memory. They could be married to a person for 40 years, and they don't see the person, they see the memory of the person, right? And there's research to prove this, okay? So how do we change a belief or perception about ourselves or our lives? Okay, we've studied this. Okay, let's just say that lack is ingrained in there. You got the story, you lived on the streets, you lost everything, you got betrayed.

• 46:44Joe Dispenza?

  Your business partner took everything, took your wife, took... You've got the story in the half, okay? Okay, you gotta start telling the new story of the future, right? You gotta believe in that future more than you have to believe in the past. So how do you do that? You only believe in the past when you feel the emotions of the past. The only time you're gonna believe in the future is when you feel the emotions of the future, right? Okay? So, in order for us to change our belief or perception about ourself and our lives, we have to make a decision with such firm intention that the amplitude of that decision carries a level of energy that's greater than the hardwired programs in your brain and the emotional conditioning in your body.

• 47:26Joe Dispenza?

  And your body literally has to respond to your mind. That the choice that you're making to change in that moment becomes a moment in time that you never forget. And here's the key.

• 47:36Lewis Howes?

  Physically.

• 47:37Joe Dispenza?

  Physically. The stronger the emotion you feel when you make that choice, the more you'll remember the decision. Okay, so then how do we down-regulate that old belief? If the trauma created an emotional quotient of six or seven, then your decision to change your beliefs gotta be a nine.

• 47:56Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 47:56Joe Dispenza?

  And you gotta come out of your resting state, and that moment has to define you. You could say, "I know exactly where I was, the time and day it was, who I was with, when I made my mind up to change." Right? Because you created a long-term memory. Long-term memories are created from strong emotion. Right. But if the amplitude of that emotion is greater than the betrayal, boom, the body starts responding to the mind, and you're actually giving your body a taste of the future emotionally. So you brand your...

• 48:25Lewis Howes?

  What's possible?

• 48:26Joe Dispenza?

  No, your body's actually getting the taste of that future event.

• 48:30Lewis Howes?

  It's experiencing the future now.

• 48:32Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, exactly. Big explosion in the quantum field. Big explosion. So the side effect of that... Is if you combine that clear intention with that elevated emotion, you're basically remembering your future and it looks no different than remembering your past. Think neurologically within the circuits of that memory and feel within the emotions of that new belief and watch your life begin to change because nothing changes in our life that we change. And when we change our energy, we change our life. So now the experiment all of a sudden is no longer based on it being hard or trying or wishing or wanting or hoping. That's what we do in our lack or lack or separation. It's about change.

• 49:12Joe Dispenza?

  So then when we finally realize in order for us to become abundant, we have to overcome the old personality. And that's 95% of who we are, right? Yes. So then the side effect of the beginning of this process is a lot of discomfort. It is a lot of discomfort because you're stepping outside the known into the unknown. And now you can't predict. It's scary. No, no, you'd rather hold on to your lack. The pain, the suffering. Rather tell the story of that, at least it makes you feel something that's familiar. When you step outside and you're saying, I'm not going to complain about money any longer. I'm not going to complain about I don't have any. I'm not going to judge other people who do. I'm not going to say I can't, I'm not worthy, it's never going to work. All those things got to go.

• 49:57Joe Dispenza?

  I'm not going to feel lack, I'm not going to feel unworthy, I'm not going to feel separation, I'm not going to feel resentment. These are the things that are keeping my reality the same. Now it's no longer about abundance, about who you become. So the overcoming process becomes the becoming process. And so many people come through this work, they want abundance, they want healing, they want a new relationship, they want a new career, they want the mystical, but really they want wholeness. They want healing, they want peace. They want wholeness. Because they feel unwhole. Well, when you're in lack or you're in separation, you're not whole. Imagine feeling so much wholeness that's impossible to want. That's what we're working on with people. Then you can really enjoy a sunset, then you can really enjoy a meal,

• 50:43Joe Dispenza?

  then you can really enjoy your friends. Then you can, I, I, I talk to people that are very abundant. I mean, in the billions abundant and you know? So many of them say, "We are in misery." In our hole. "We're in agony," because they can't enjoy life anymore. That's what they want. I mean, people want abundance, to be able to enjoy life. They want to be able to do whatever they want, with whoever they want, as many times as they want, wherever they want. That's freedom, right? Or people want abundance. The sponsoring thought is really, they want freedom, right? Or whatever their sponsoring thought would be, right? So, so then creating from the field, instead of from matter, to shorten the distance between cause and effect, requires that clear intention with that elevated emotion,

• 51:28Joe Dispenza?

  coherent brain and coherent heart. Tune in to that energy and feel it with your brain and your heart. And we have plenty of ways to do that. Examine your personality and examine your personal reality. Change your personality, change your personal reality. Don't make it be about abundance. Make it about becoming abundant by overcoming the person who's not abundant. The person who heals themselves from a health condition, who's no longer thinking the same way, no longer acting the same way, no longer feeling the same way. You ask them where that disease is when they stand on the stage in front of 1,500 people or 3,000 people, and that's a four-minute mile. Everybody's leaning in. That's truth, right on the stage. They say, "Where is that, where is the disease?" "Oh, it lives in the old person." Wow.

• 52:13Joe Dispenza?

  "I'm somebody else." That's like, that's, I don't even, that's not even a story. It's not even who I am any longer. So, low and behold, when we do our research, and people do this, in seven days of going all-in,

• 52:29Joe Dispenza?

  at the end of seven days, their body looks like, genetically, with all the metabolites, that they're literally in a different environment. And here's the weird part. They're in a ballroom. Right. There's not a lot happening in a ballroom. What's happening in a ballroom? I've been to thousands of ballrooms. Yeah. But the environment somehow looks like they're living in a very prosperous, very healthy, very loving, nurturing, very whole environment. Why? Because they were signaling genes ahead of the environment. And if the environment signals the gene, okay, that's epigenetics. The end product of the experience in the environment is an emotion. If you feel the emotion before the experience, you're signaling the gene ahead of the environment. And genes make proteins.

• 53:11Joe Dispenza?

  And proteins are responsible for the structure and the function of your body.

• 53:15Lewis Howes?

  Look at Jack, by the way, I like that, look at the muscle over here.

• 53:18Joe Dispenza?

  The expression of proteins is the expression of life. So you actually become abundant. You actually become that person. And people who are truly abundant have no problem with losing things.

• 53:31Lewis Howes?

  I was always gonna ask you next was, let's say you make a million dollars in your business, but then you invested a lot in the stock market or whatever, and then half of it goes away overnight.

• 53:41Joe Dispenza?

  Who doesn't have that happen? Every abundant person has that happen? And their response is minimal.

• 53:48Lewis Howes?

  So what should people be thinking when they lose a lot of money?

• 53:52Joe Dispenza?

  Lesson, don't lose the lesson. You may lose the money, but don't lose the lesson.

• 53:58Lewis Howes?

  Should people feel this emotional attachment to the money loss?

• 54:01Joe Dispenza?

  No, why? What is money? I mean, what is that? What people really want? It's like people say to me, "Oh, I have this great idea for this new business, and I need money." And I say, "You don't need money. You need opportunity. You need opportunity, but tune in to some opportunities." So it's the framing of how limited we think that we have to get things through money. It just is not the way it is. So the fundamental importance about all of this is I really don't care if people wanna be abundant. I don't care if they wanna heal. I don't care if they wanna have a mystical... I don't care if they wanna travel the world, doesn't matter to me. I just want them to be in the experiment. The experiment of actually trying it out.

• 54:44Joe Dispenza?

  And seeing, "God, if I really change my energy, well, could I actually have an effect that's produced in my life? And if I'm waiting for the event to occur, I'm back to the illusion of separation and lack. Waiting for it to happen to take it away if I'm truly a creator."

• 55:01Lewis Howes?

  So let's say, let's say they're not waiting. What should they do instead of waiting? Keep feeling the feeling in the present moment and trust?

• 55:08Joe Dispenza?

  If you're waiting, you're not creating. I mean, that's just the way it is. So wake up every day. How bad do you want it? How bad do you want in your dream? It's so much easier to forget that vision than to remember it, right? So if you're gonna remember it, you gotta keep it alive in your mind. How do you keep it alive in your mind? You disconnect from your environment, you close your eyes, you play music in the background. You sit your body down and it's gotta pee and it's gotta eat and it's gotta... Well, you just, just sit down for a few minutes, like training a dog, like stay. When I say it's time to get up, we get up. Don't be thinking about what's gonna happen in your day, you already know what's gonna happen. Don't think what happened yesterday, you already know that. Get in the present moment and say, who do I wanna be when I open my eyes? Who do I wanna be today?

• 55:53Joe Dispenza?

  What would greatness look like? How would I... One day, one shot, one lifetime, what would an abundant person do? Let me rehearse that with my eyes closed, let me remind myself who I don't wanna be. Let me remind myself of who do I wanna be. Let's not get up, Louis. Until we get into that. Until we are, until we're the tennis ball hits the sweet spot. When you go, oh, I'm ready for the day now, game on. Now, if you can maintain that modified state of mind and body the entire day without defaulting by seeing someone or doing something, stay in that state, the experiment still continues. And you're changing your energy. Doesn't happen in two days, you're not that good. Right. That's it, you're not that good. Keep practicing.

• 56:33Joe Dispenza?

  People who show up for the 21 weeks in a row, this woman, 21 weeks in a row. The end of 21 weeks, she knew it. Boom, her whole life changed, boom. Was the 21 days worth it? Ask her. Experiment, she was just changing the process. People who diagnosed with really serious health conditions, and they start doing the meditations and they realize, wow, God, my body feels better, my pain feels better, but my values, my scans are still showing the disease exists. Alright, does it mean that it doesn't work? No, doesn't mean it doesn't work. It means like, what am I doing the other 15 hours of the day? Oh my God, I'm in lack, I'm in fear, I'm responding to the same people in the same ways.

• 57:17Joe Dispenza?

  And you gotta think about this. As long as your response to everything in your life is the same, you're not changing. Right. So change your response to things in your life and you're in the process of change. So it's then, now I gotta get good with my eyes open. Now I gotta be able to rehearse, "Oh my God, I fell from grace at that moment in my day. Oh my God, I defaulted back to the old self."

• 57:37Lewis Howes?

  Forgive yourself, yeah.

• 57:38Joe Dispenza?

  Alright, no, it's not only forgive yourself, like, there's a forgiving process, like, shoot. But if you're truly playing the game, who cares, right? You just go, "God, let me brush myself off."

• 57:49Lewis Howes?

  Get back to it, yeah.

• 57:50Joe Dispenza?

  Let me get back in my heart here, let me get back in that place, let me remember, let me get back in this energy, and let's try it again. Let's try it again.

• 57:56Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 57:57Joe Dispenza?

  And let's just keep the experiment going. Now, does that mean you have to be irresponsible? No, you still have to navigate with ethics and morality. You still have to have personal conviction. You still have to have a vision that's bigger than you and somehow that motivates you because not only you're doing it for selfish reasons, but to contribute to others in some way. Of course, there's gonna be recognition and popularity and aggrandizement that goes with it. Money should be the side effect of all that. The game should be so good. Of your vision, like, that vision of the future, you have to keep alive in your mind.

• 58:29Lewis Howes?

  That should be the game. The ones that can keep that vision of the future in their mind now.

• 58:34Joe Dispenza?

  Exactly.

• 58:35Lewis Howes?

  And have a personality.

• 58:36Joe Dispenza?

  Even if your, even if your reality is falling apart, and that's happened to a lot of people, I mean, there are people that have come through our work living in the back of their car.

• 58:44Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 58:45Joe Dispenza?

  And now they're, you know, living very well, or bankrupt. And now their, you know, their companies are just thriving. They just, they just never stopped believing in themselves. Because if you believe in yourself, it means you have to believe in possibility. And if you believe in possibility, you're gonna have to believe in yourself. And so, something really cool happens when you do this that I just discovered recently. Just watching people at our week-long events, you know, because you gotta go all in. You gotta go all in. And it's seven days and it's a lot, and it's super intense, and there's times where you don't wanna show up because I'm pushing people across the river of change.

• 59:27Joe Dispenza?

  There comes a moment where people keep showing up for themselves. They keep showing up for themselves in spite of the weather, in spite of their foot hurting, in spite of their bad dreams, in spite of the whatever, their fight with or whoever. They keep showing up. They get really worthy to receive. They just know, they feel really worthy, like, "I am worthy to receive this gift." And the universe only gives us what we think we're worthy of receiving, right? So, we gotta get to that point because so many people who are in lack. Somehow don't feel worthy, right? So, so the abundance then becomes the sign that you finally become worthy.

• 1:00:10Joe Dispenza?

  And for the soul, it's not about the abundance. It's about mastering your worthiness. And the reflection is the things that you accumulate.

• 1:00:20Lewis Howes?

  What's the, what's the, the strategy to start believing we're worthy of receiving now?

• 1:00:26Joe Dispenza?

  Fill your brain with as much knowledge as possible. And, and listen, my dad used to say this to me all the time. He'd say, wait, wait, wait a second. Wait a second, just sit down with me here. If anybody else can do it, you could do it also. Well, let's just start there. So how did these people do it? Like, let's look at what they did. All right, let's study, this is the school of greatness. Let's study greatness. What is greatness? Like, an uncompromising will, invincibility? Lead with their heart? Adapt and make changes? Let go of the past? Give you, give, give life, live it fully and completely and embrace it and enjoy it? I don't know. Whatever, you get to write the script.

• 1:01:09Joe Dispenza?

  And you, you tell the story of your future instead of telling the story of your past. Watch what happens.

• 1:01:14Lewis Howes?

  What is, so how do we, should we be speaking to others about our future? Or should we be more keeping that to our mind and our bodies? And kind of speaking it to ourselves? What happens when you say, I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do this. This is my future. Does that actually hurt us?

• 1:01:28Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, so I really don't leak it out. I never leak it out. Cause if I'm working on something, I hold it, right? I don't wanna, I don't, I'll, when it, when I know it's going to happen, that's when I'll say, hey, you guys, you're not gonna believe this, right?

• 1:01:42Lewis Howes?

  So it's more to yourself.

• 1:01:43Joe Dispenza?

  Right. Listen, you know when you know when you're changing? When you stop talking about it. That's when you know you're changing. Cause you're, you're at the bleachers and you're on the playing field. Look, so many people come to our work, Lewis, and they say, I, I always believed that this was possible. All this information seems, I've seen people yield and some people create, well, I, I get it. I just didn't believe it would work for me. Oh, it's a big moment. It's a, it's a big moment. Now, now you are on the game. You're in, I mean, the playing field. You're out of the bleachers. Like, like, we had people stand on the stage. Someone sat on the stage this weekend in Denver, just said, my God, I, I.

• 1:02:26Joe Dispenza?

  I really believe that this would work. I just didn't believe I could heal. I didn't believe, I really didn't believe it. I really didn't believe. She was a physician, is a physician. I really didn't believe I could heal. Now, is it about the healing anymore? It's about overcoming the belief. And every day, she's got to make that decision with such firm intention that the amplitude of that decision is causing her body to respond to her mind. And that's the moment she's rewriting the belief. And if she doesn't feel like it, don't expect anything to occur in your life. You gotta come out of your resting state. You gotta make that choice.

• 1:03:08Lewis Howes?

  For all the people that go to your events, and just in life, one of the biggest challenges people have is the consistency of doing these things. It's hard to actually go and try it once.

• 1:03:19Joe Dispenza?

  No, but here's the deal. Here's the deal. Let's just say you're in the experiment. And now, that belief is right in your face. I guarantee you that discomfort from that belief being right in your face is gonna get you out of bed in the morning. And you're gonna face off with it. There's an innate capacity that we have as human beings to wanna overcome our limitations. It's in there, right? So, the community that we have that does this work, they're not like, "Oh, God, I gotta go create today." That's not their game. The magic is so good. They show up because they don't want the magic to end.

• 1:04:01Lewis Howes?

  To go away, yeah.

• 1:04:02Joe Dispenza?

  They're not doing it as a have to, to please God, do the right thing, be spiritual. None of that. It's not an obligation. It's something that they actually look forward to doing because the experiment in their life is creating all these wonderful opportunities. And plenty of people in our work that started new businesses that are jamming. They're jamming. And they would never be victim to those circumstances, right? They just wouldn't let them, those circumstances define them, right? What defined them was the vision of the future. And that vision they had to keep alive and the emotion was the energy that drove them right to it.

• 1:04:43Lewis Howes?

  Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's show with all the important links. And if no one's told you lately, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.