Pod Insights The School of Greatness The KEY To Begin Healing and Attract Peace In Your Life TODAY [BONUS EPISODE Presented By BetterHelp] About this episode https://lewishowes.com/mindset - Order a copy of my new book The Greatness Mindset today! I got to sit down with BetterHelp therapist, Haesue Jo in a new bonus series I’m doing with BetterHelp. In this series, we talk about The Greatness Mindset and why therapy can help you in your journey toward it. Discover your potential when you visit BetterHelp.com/lewis today to get 10% off your first month. In this episode you will learn,How to determine what true peace and harmony looks like for you. The value of reconciling past pain and creating meaning from memories that have previously held us back. How facing our pain is an important step to healing and creating peace. The difference between therapy and coaching. How therapy can enable us to rewrite the narrative of our life. For more information go to betterhelp.com/lewis Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX
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0:00 Lewis Howes? This episode was sponsored by BetterHelp online therapy. Big thanks to Hsu Jo, licensed therapist and head of clinical operations at BetterHelp. Hsu Jo is not my actual therapist and we are not in a therapist-client relationship. Also, just because you might hear something on the show that sounds similar to what you're experiencing, beware of self-diagnosis. You'll want to find a qualified professional to assess and explore diagnosis if that's important to you. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
0:44 Lewis Howes? Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.
0:54 Lewis Howes? I'm curious, Hsu, can we... If we don't go back and create congruency and alignment with our past memories that have essentially made up our life of who we are today? If we don't do that, but we say, "Okay, I'm clear on what I want to create in the next couple of years of my life, and I've got a direction." Can we have a fulfilling, peaceful, harmonious life without going back and creating that congruency from where we were to where we are now? If we just say, "Okay, I'm clear on my goals and my mission," is it possible to have peace still? Or do you really think, as a licensed therapist, that you've got to create congruency with all the parts of your past to where you are today
1:38 Lewis Howes? in order to have more harmony in your life moving forward?
1:42 Speaker 01 As a licensed therapist, I've learned to avoid any absolutes. I do think it's possible. I think it's possible for plenty of people to achieve what you're talking about without going into the past and finding this congruency.
1:55 Lewis Howes? But can you find peace when you achieve?
1:59 Speaker 01 I imagine there's some people that may be able to, but it's going to be a different flavor, a different iteration. I think true harmony and peace, if you're asking me, which is just my personal thoughts and other folks may think differently.
2:17 Speaker 01 Let me start, like, if you, listener, are thinking about the folks in your life that seem the most well-adjusted, the most balanced, the most, you know, able to navigate and tackle life's challenges without freaking out or without losing it, chances are, those folks are at peace, like you're describing. Those folks have gone and, and
2:40 Lewis Howes? Yes.
2:41 Speaker 01 reconciled something about that's happened to them, or the way people have treated them, and they've turned it into something that's meaningful and understandable, instead of running away or hiding from, avoiding things that have been painful.
2:58 Lewis Howes? I mean, I'm trying to set you up because for most of my life, I was running from and avoiding the pain of the past, the memories of the past, and I was accomplishing, I was very clear on like, what I wanted to create, and I was good at organizing my time and being disciplined and, you know, all those things, and accomplishing goals, but I still didn't feel peaceful inside. I still felt like overwhelmed and anxious and stressed out and worried about what people think about me and judging myself and putting myself down if I wasn't perfect. And all those things stemmed from a lack of harmony from my past. When I was able to really dive in over the last few years and assess it, like you said, with
3:38 Lewis Howes? online therapy, is like, doing an assessment, recalling things, healing, creating a process of healing. And it's hard to heal if you're not willing to face the things that cause you the most hurt. That's why I think it's important to have a coach, some type of support in online therapy. For a long time, I was, I was really fearful of self-doubt. And I'm a big believer that self-doubt is the killer of all of our dreams. It's what holds us back. We can have all the skill and the talent and the accolades, but if we don't believe we're good enough to take action courageously on the things we want to create in our life, or in the relationships that are meaningful to us, then it doesn't matter how talented
4:19 Lewis Howes? we are, we hold ourselves back when we doubt self, because we lack the courage to act.
4:26 Lewis Howes? It's one of the things I talk about in my book about these kind of three, the three main fears of self doubt, fear of failure, success and judgment. For me, judgment was one that I was most afraid of and it held me back from being the most authentic, loving person I could be. How can therapy be used as a tool to overcome someone's greatest fears, insecurities and self doubt?
4:51 Speaker 01 There's many different kinds of therapy. So depending on which kind of therapist you find and what approach they take, how they conceptualize people, you might tackle this particular puzzle in different ways. Overall, I do think therapy can be used to overcome a lot of fears by exploring where these fears come from. You know, you've been mentioning it's a combination of therapy and coaching. And that's something that I think is a great combination for people to think about. And I know you didn't ask this, but for folks that are unsure of what the difference is, why are there two different things? What are these things about? So through my own experiences, going through coaching too and therapy, of course,
5:33 Speaker 01 therapy really focuses on a lot of whys, a lot of why do I feel this way? Why do I connect like this or not connect like this? Why do I behave when this kind of thing happens? Coaching very much focuses on how? How am I going to get from here to there? How will I achieve this next step? How will I structure my plan and my vision? And how am I going to do whatever it needs to get there? So using both or just therapy, just coaching even to overcome fears, it's about, you know, process. It's about understanding these things so that you can think about them differently. Because then you can start thinking about yourself differently.
6:19 Speaker 01 You know, we, we come from or behave from this place of fear because like you said, there's different things that we could be fearful of. Often it's fear of being rejected by something, somebody, the world, ourselves. And if we can figure out like where it comes from and try to explain it, then we can create a new narrative and we can break free from this like skit that's playing over and over and over. And we're trying to reenact, trying to correct without even understanding what it is we're trying to make better.
6:53 Lewis Howes? So you know, I hear you saying it's important to have both. It's having, you know, some type of coaching. You could also get that within therapy. A therapist could give, give you coaching actionable steps as well. But if you're just taking action and creating, creating, and you're not understanding why you're feeling something, then you're kind of masking it without doing the deeper work as well. That's why I think you want to have both, which is really powerful, I think. So again, if you're looking for a clearer direction in your life, if you're looking for some healing, if you're looking for just more joy and freedom and peace of mind, then I encourage you to go to betterhelp.com/lewis. Again, you get 10% off the first month when you do that. So you can try it for a month and explore it. Check it out. You can find a therapist and you can switch, I believe,
7:37 Lewis Howes? at any time. So if you're feeling like, ah, maybe this doesn't work for me, let me try someone different. You can do that as well over at BetterHelp. They've got, again, online support. So if you have any questions, you can ask them questions right on the website. Again, betterhelp.com/lewis. I hope today's episode inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a rundown of today's show with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me as well as ad-free listening experience, make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel on Apple Podcast. If you enjoyed this, please share it with a friend over on social media or text a friend. Leave us a review over on Apple Podcast and let me know what you learned
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