Master Hypnotist Reveals The Manifestation Formula That’s MORE Powerful Than The Law of Attraction | Jim Curtis

Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! I was captivated by Jim Curtis's profound insight that most of our limitations are self-created "mind traps" we fall into without realizing it. As a master hypnotherapist who overcame decades of debilitating nerve pain, Jim shared how our negativity bias, confirmation bias, and the "backfire effect" keep us stuck in patterns that no longer serve us. The conversation revealed how Jim's own healing journey took him from a wheelchair to wholeness by shifting his focus from what was broken to what was possible. What struck me most was his practical demonstration of self-hypnosis that anyone can use to quiet the critical mind and reconnect with their true "I am" state. This episode offers transformative wisdom for anyone struggling with physical pain, emotional blocks, or limiting beliefs about their worthiness. Jim’s InstagramJim’s TikTokJim’s LinkedInSign up for The Magnetic Reality MethodGet Jim’s new book, ShiftWatch Jim’s TEDx TalkGet Jim’s book, The Stimulati Experience: 9 Skills for Getting Past Pain, Setbacks, and Trauma to Ignite Health and HappinessIn this episode you will learn:The four mind traps that keep people stuck in patterns of sufferingHow to use self-hypnosis techniques to bypass your critical mind and reprogram your subconscious in just one minute per dayWhy the Law of Assumption (what you assume to be true about yourself) is more powerful than the Law of AttractionThe difference between directive statements and questions, and why questions like "I wonder if you realize how amazing..." are more effective communication toolsFour signs you're living in a high vibrational stateFor more information go to https://www.lewishowes.com/1755For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Dr. Joe Dispenza – greatness.lnk.to/1702SCDanny Morel – greatness.lnk.to/1734SCGregg Braden – greatness.lnk.to/1726SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneymeasibook.com right now and get yourself a copy. I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment, moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness.

• 0:41Lewis Howes?

  It's a beautiful day right now to be with you, sharing this moment with you. And I'm so blessed and grateful that you're listening to this right now. And in Los Angeles, at the recording of this right now, it's cloudy. It's been raining over the last couple of nights. It's cloudy during the day, the last couple of days. And sometimes we go through seasons where the weather is bad, literally, in life, but also our life is going through bad weather, where it just feels a little gloomy. It feels a little cloudy. It feels a little like not as so much sunshine in our internal world. And sometimes the external world can reflect that for us. But whenever I see the clouds, I actually feel peace.

• 1:25Lewis Howes?

  And I know that it's cleansing something. It's creating awareness for me. Okay, where is there in my life, in my internal world, that I get to clean up? And it also makes me reflect on all the growth I've had. We just had the first quarter of the year. We, you know, I got married. I had a beautiful celebration with friends and family. We had a book come out, Make Money Easy, that hit the New York Times Bestseller List. We got to do a tour and see so many people around the country. And there's so much good that's happening. That doesn't mean that there's not things to clean up, that we don't still have to cleanse things in our internal world or in our external world. I'm going through transitions. I just moved offices.

• 2:07Lewis Howes?

  There's a lot of junk in the office that we have to get rid of and clean up and organize. And it's not all perfect right now. It's not all smooth. There's a lot of hurry up and wait. And sometimes it's just nice when there are clouds, because it makes me reflect and say, okay. I've done a lot of things right now. It's time to reflect and cleanse, clean up, and start organizing my life internally so that my environment externally matches. And if you feel like something is off right now, I just want to let you know that it's all gonna be good. And I want you to start reflecting more, breathing more, and being more.

• 2:52Lewis Howes?

  A lot of times, we're trying to do, do, do to get the results we want in life, and we're trying to just act, act, act, which there's a season for that. But if you're not taking moments every day to be, to reflect, to breathe, then it can feel like burnout is just overwhelming you. And you could feel exhausted, your nervous system is gonna feel drained. And today's episode is all about how to really develop the powerful insights on breaking free from the mind traps in our life, like the negativity bias and the confirmation bias that holds us back from peace and abundance. Because you are abundant, you are peace, you are love.

• 3:37Lewis Howes?

  And sometimes we need the clouds to cleanse, to reflect, to remind us that we are out of alignment in some places, or that some things just need cleaning up. You know, my office is a little messy right now. And it's taking the time, taking a couple hours every week to organize, to clean, to process things, to integrate the new space. And wherever you're at in your life, whatever you're going through, if it's a sunny day, if it's a cold day or cloudy day, I want you to pause, reflect, and be grateful. I want you to be grateful for where you're at. I want you to be grateful for getting yourself to this moment, getting yourself to this space. It doesn't mean it's a perfect space.

• 4:21Lewis Howes?

  It doesn't mean it doesn't have opportunity for growth. But sometimes we just need to pause, to reflect. And I want to acknowledge you for being here today, and I'm so grateful for you. I'm grateful for you for being a part of this journey with me on the School of Greatness. Grateful for you listening and showing up on a consistent basis for yourself. I'm grateful for you growing on this journey of life, the way that I'm trying to constantly grow myself. And I feel like the moment I stop learning is the moment I start to slowly fade off. And I feel more frustrated at life. I'm always going to be learning and I appreciate you being here on the journey with me today. We've got a powerful episode with Jim Curtis, who's going to be talking about the practical techniques for a simple

• 5:06Lewis Howes?

  self-hypnosis that anyone can use daily to quiet the critical mind program. And start building positive beliefs so that you can access deeper states of consciousness. Where true healing becomes possible. I'm so excited for this episode. I hope you enjoy it. Thank you for being on the journey and let's go ahead and dive in.

• 5:29Lewis Howes?

  Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Jim Curtis in the house, who is a master hypnotherapist, NLP trainer and coach to many. Thanks so much for being here. I'm so happy to be here. Very excited about this. I'm already feeling the energy of, of our superpowers combining to really how we can be of service to the maximum amount of people watching and listening right now. And there's something we were talking about beforehand that I really liked, that I wanted to ask you about first. And it's, and it's mind traps. The world is, a lot of people in the world are suffering. A lot of people are suffering financially, physically, emotionally, and in relationships.

• 6:10Lewis Howes?

  And you mentioned something really interesting that I thought might help people to get started with. And it's one, the mind traps that people are stuck in. So I want to ask you about what are mind traps and how to get, how people can get out of them to create more abundance and peace and freedom in their lives. Part two of this question. Is how can we use directives versus questions to serve us in our life better? So what are the mind traps that hold us back from peace and abundance? And how can we use directives over questions to set us free?

• 6:50Jim Curtis?

  That's really, that, those are good questions. I mean, so first of all, we believe that we're in this reality. All right, we believe that everything that we're doing up until now is real. Right, and it's based on all of our programming. So we've created and built up this reality, all the programming to it to create our beliefs. But then allow us to see the world in the way that we see it. When we've learned that. So if we built up programming to see the world in the way that we see it, it is possible that we could have had different programming from different people that would allow us to see the world in a different way and that it would be a different reality. And therefore, it is possible that we have multiple realities. Everybody's in a separate reality for the way that they see things, feel things, or are affected by things.

• 7:35Jim Curtis?

  Right, so, and everybody that feels as though they're trapped in this one predicament, this one space, this one reality, just has to realize that they can break out, people who created it, they can change it. But there are some mind traps that stop people from doing this. And one particular mind trap is called the negativity bias. And you've seen this negativity bias, we all have. So on social media, you get a thousand really positive comments. And then you have one really negative comment. And which ones do you obsess about?

• 8:13Lewis Howes?

  Most people focus on the negative.

• 8:14Jim Curtis?

  Yes, so you start obsessing about the negative comment. And it's our negativity bias that keeps us trapped in saying, oh, this is an issue in this world that I can't overcome. And when we start to become aware of that one, we start to focus on the positive. Everything changes. Another one is our confirmation bias.

• 8:34Jim Curtis?

  So if we can become aware that we have a reticular activating system that is out there confirming all of our beliefs based on these programming. So you just have to say, what results am I creating in my life?

• 8:48Lewis Howes?

  What's a big confirmation bias that most people in the world today are stuck in and that's holding them back around money or relationships?

• 8:56Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, a really great confirmation bias around relationships is I'm not good enough. I'm not lovable. All right. And what happens?

• 9:05Lewis Howes?

  You find people that continue to confirm that you're not lovable.

• 9:08Jim Curtis?

  Exactly right. You get the breadcrumbs. You go on a date and the guy goes to you again. You go on a date and the guy has, doesn't want to commit to a relationship. Or the woman is texting all sorts of different men. Or, or they, they are inconsistent, hot and cold. And you're like, why can't I just find a great person that really loves me and pays attention to me? But when you do find that, they become boring.

• 9:30Lewis Howes?

  Right. That's interesting.

• 9:32Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 9:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. You have to reprogram yourself that boring is not boring. Right? It's like, it's not boring if there's, if it's healthy.

• 9:41Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 9:42Lewis Howes?

  You know, just because it's up and down, hot and cold, doesn't mean it's good for you.

• 9:46Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, or if you're like me, it came from a really crazy childhood, right? Where everybody's yelling and making up, right? And so like, if I was just even kill.

• 9:56Lewis Howes?

  Peaceful.

• 9:57Jim Curtis?

  Peaceful. There was no, there was no sexual passion.

• 10:00Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 10:00Jim Curtis?

  I needed, I need peaks in the valleys.

• 10:02Lewis Howes?

  Need chaos.

• 10:03Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 10:03Lewis Howes?

  Uncertainty.

• 10:04Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 10:05Lewis Howes?

  You need your nervous system to be completely out of whack, unhealthy for you to feel like this is love.

• 10:10Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, totally. That's my passion. That's my passion. I want makeup sex. That's like, that's what it was.

• 10:15Lewis Howes?

  But that makes people sick.

• 10:17Jim Curtis?

  It is, it is, that's why people are miserable in the long run. Because they don't realize that, oh, it's your programming. That something that's consistent and safe and like follows up and calls and all those things isn't boring, it's beautiful. And that's when you can be vulnerable. And that's when you're allowed to be vulnerable, that you can have a real true connection.

• 10:41Lewis Howes?

  Well, the thing with that also is like you can actually expand. You can create true abundance from that place. When you're in constant hot, cold, like you said, or your nervous system is on edge constantly because you don't know what the person's gonna do, or if they're gonna give you the sovereign treatment, or if they're gonna be love bombing you all day, or if you're somewhere in between.

• 10:59Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 11:00Lewis Howes?

  You can't expand from that place.

• 11:02Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 11:02Lewis Howes?

  For two decades, I was in different relationships where it's just like, it just seemed chaotic, right, in a lot of them. And I'm not blaming the other people. It's like I was part of the problem too. But it wasn't until I was able to start healing my nervous system to create more stability in a relationship where I felt like I was able to expand everything around me. Because internally, I was expanding and healing.

• 11:25Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 11:25Lewis Howes?

  And like, a lot of people get stuck in not healing their body, their mind, their nervous system around their programming, like you said. And your programming equals your reality.

• 11:37Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 11:37Lewis Howes?

  You're just gonna stay stuck in that loop that's gonna keep you feeling trapped, suffering, like, why isn't this working in that, in that type of relationship? So I like that you said that.

• 11:46Jim Curtis?

  That's another mind trap.

• 11:47Lewis Howes?

  Uh huh.

• 11:48Jim Curtis?

  That's another one of the mind traps.

• 11:49Lewis Howes?

  So that's the, we got negativity bias, we got confirmation bias.

• 11:53Jim Curtis?

  I love the sunk cost fallacy. Are you familiar with that? You may have heard it from your business.

• 11:57Lewis Howes?

  Go ahead.

• 11:57Jim Curtis?

  The sunk cost fallacy says, I've invested so much in this, I can't possibly let it go now. People, you know, but we've been together for two years, business, but I've put a million dollars into it. And you can't let it go.

• 12:12Lewis Howes?

  Let me just keep suffering and like, in pain in this process, trying to make it work.

• 12:18Jim Curtis?

  Throwing more good time after bad, more money, more good money after bad. And then before you know it, another two, three years goes by, and you're like, boy, I wish I got out earlier.

• 12:27Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 12:28Jim Curtis?

  Really, I got out early. So it takes a lot of like, it takes a lot to be able to break free from that.

• 12:34Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 12:34Jim Curtis?

  And to just change. Right? So that's, that's another one.

• 12:41Lewis Howes?

  Is there any more mind track?

• 12:42Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, there's so many of them. There's this self-awareness is what really allows you to recognize it. When you start to look at the results of your life, then you can understand what your traps are.

• 12:53Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 12:54Jim Curtis?

  Right? Because sometimes you look at results and say, oh, I'm really good at that. I must have programming that's really good.

• 12:58Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 12:59Jim Curtis?

  And so I'm confirming every day that I can make money, or that I'm worthy, or that I'm lovable. And that's why I have this beautiful relationship. And then other results in your life that are like poor, you're like, okay, what are my traps here that I have? Um, one really great one, um, oh, one that I really love, one really great one is the backfire effect.

• 13:23Lewis Howes?

  What's that?

• 13:23Jim Curtis?

  And the backfire effect is part of your identity. So if you believe something is true, even if it's not, even if there's maybe another reality to it, another truth to it. And I challenge you with either a correct version or a different version. And you double down. And you're like, all of a sudden, you're believing in yours even more because you have to fight for it. Because if you let it go, then some part of your identity or your reality crumbles. And you you double down, and it's the backfire effect. That's a really good one.

• 13:58Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 13:59Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 13:59Lewis Howes?

  And you stay stuck in that. Now, what's, I mean, as a master hypnotist, hypnotherapist.

• 14:06Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 14:07Lewis Howes?

  What have you learned over the last few years? That you realize you were in the backfire effect for yourself for a long time. You were believing something to be true. You were programming yourself that this was a true way of being. Then in the last few years, you had to wake up and question.

• 14:25Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 14:25Lewis Howes?

  And start seeing it differently.

• 14:27Jim Curtis?

  The two giant things for myself. One, I was always in business. I've started some really successful businesses and run some businesses, always under the thumb of some private equity or venture capital firm. And I realized that I was saying that this is the only way that I could make a lot of money.

• 14:46Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 14:47Jim Curtis?

  This is the only way that I could be successful. This is the only way that I could, you know, feel as though I was worthy in life. And I was like, oh, but but I'm really unhappy. And I'm working 80 hours a week and I'm I'm sick, like I'm out of shape and I'm all these things. And so I realized that I was doubling down. And saying, you know, this, this had to be true. And when someone else was doing it differently, I would see them succeeding. I would say, but that's not me.

• 15:15Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 15:16Jim Curtis?

  They have something that I don't. Or they're really good at this. I'd make an excuse until I had to snap out of it. What I call is these hypno-realizations.

• 15:25Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 15:26Jim Curtis?

  Yeah. I could tell you a little bit more about that. The second thing, though, is my own health. Like I, you know, when everybody else was healing, when everybody else like had these miraculous breakthroughs at Joe Dispenza or wherever else. And I was like, no, they don't have what I have.

• 15:41Lewis Howes?

  They don't have the pain that I have.

• 15:43Jim Curtis?

  They don't have the pain that I have. They don't have the condition. They don't have what I went through. They don't have all those things.

• 15:49Jim Curtis?

  They're different.

• 15:49Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 15:51Jim Curtis?

  Right? And then I had to snap. I was like, oh, actually, that's not true.

• 15:54Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. And what was the pain or the condition that you had that was holding you down physically?

• 16:00Jim Curtis?

  So when I had a lesion on my spinal cord and it created damage to the nerves on my spinal cord. So for a while I was in a wheelchair. I was in tons of pain physically. I was stiff. I had muscle spasms. Um, I still walk with a limp. I, but I was, you know, it caused me not to exercise, not to date, not to do any of those things. I was in a, just in a, a place of like, this is, this is my life.

• 16:27Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 16:28Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, I went from an athlete to that. And then I went downhill.

• 16:31Lewis Howes?

  Did you have a physical injury or an accident that caused this? Or was it just over time this manifested?

• 16:36Jim Curtis?

  I wish that I did. So I was undiagnosed for a real long period of time.

• 16:41Lewis Howes?

  So you just had like pain in your back? And you were just kind of like sore for a while?

• 16:44Jim Curtis?

  Quickly, quicker than that. And anybody that's undiagnosed will understand this because people, you know, when you, it's almost like you want, when you're undiagnosed with an illness, you want, you're looking so hard for the cancer. You want the, you want to put your finger on it.

• 16:59Lewis Howes?

  Tell me what it is.

• 17:00Jim Curtis?

  Tell me, give it a name. Cause when you give it a name, you can heal it. When it's undiagnosed, you're like, okay, every day is anxiety. I'm searching, I'm searching, I'm searching. So just, I woke up one day and um, I went into the shower and I couldn't feel my left foot. And it began to, you know, move up my leg. And I, I went to get an MRI.

• 17:24Jim Curtis?

  And when I got that MRI, it showed that I had a tumor or lesion on my spinal cord. And I didn't know where it was from. And then slowly it got worse. It started moving up to my waist and then.

• 17:38Lewis Howes?

  The numbness.

• 17:39Jim Curtis?

  The numbness, oh wow. And then my leg started to get weaker and then the pain set in.

• 17:45Lewis Howes?

  Hmm, so first it was like tingling numbness, then it became pain.

• 17:49Jim Curtis?

  Yes.

• 17:49Lewis Howes?

  Within like weeks, months, years?

• 17:52Jim Curtis?

  Um, it, within a year.

• 17:55Lewis Howes?

  Uh huh.

• 17:56Jim Curtis?

  And then it, and then it kept going downward after that.

• 17:59Lewis Howes?

  And then the pain is just like, you start slouching, you start like, you don't want to walk, you're stiff, kind of all those symptoms that come with it?

• 18:06Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, it was nerve pain.

• 18:08Lewis Howes?

  Uh huh.

• 18:09Jim Curtis?

  Because, you know, we have this intricate wiring in our body. And so the nerves were obstructed, so it's nerve pain. And then all of a sudden you're walking differently. And so like now you're, now you're thrown off.

• 18:21Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 18:22Jim Curtis?

  And so it's like back pain.

• 18:23Lewis Howes?

  Now you're out of a lineman, you're joint.

• 18:25Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, and then there's the, you know, what I realized, and this is what really got me into hypnosis. Um, is that some things would make the pain go away altogether.

• 18:38Lewis Howes?

  Like what?

• 18:39Jim Curtis?

  Happiness.

• 18:41Lewis Howes?

  Joy. What a concept, huh?

• 18:43Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 18:43Lewis Howes?

  Gratitude.

• 18:44Jim Curtis?

  Laughter. Laughter, so like all of a sudden these oxytocins would be flooding your body and I wouldn't feel the pain. I wouldn't have to take a drug. I'd be like, oh, okay. Or I'd go to like a retreat. And for a week I would focus on like connection to a higher power. Connection to spirit, connection to my true self. Uh, which hopefully we get into. And I'd be like, boy, at the end of this, I can walk almost perfectly and I have no pain. That's really interesting. So how do I, how do I speak to that part of myself? That's controlling that?

• 19:21Jim Curtis?

  And so the closest thing that I could find besides, you know, prayer was like hypnosis. So you can get in there in a theta state, which is a state, which is a trance state, which is a state that you can connect to the quantum itself, if you believe in that. So how do I start to make changes to my subconscious, to those parts of me that's clearly controlling things that I don't even know?

• 19:46Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 19:47Jim Curtis?

  And so that's, that's what really got me excited about it.

• 19:51Lewis Howes?

  Is the mind controlling or influencing the nervous system?

• 19:56Jim Curtis?

  100%.

• 19:58Lewis Howes?

  So is the pain that you had in your body or the condition you had in your body, the nerve pain, the tumor, do you think that was caused from the way you were thinking your entire life? Or was that just some freak thing that happened over time based on environment or conditions or chance?

• 20:18Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, I don't know. There is a real part of me that believes that illness builds up through emotional stagnation, through a difficult childhood. Even some people say through lifetimes. If we can believe that our, our spirit, our energy never ceases to exist and that we come back and that in previous lifetimes, which Dolores Cannon, others like Brian Weiss, Many Lives, Many Masters focuses on past life hypnosis regression.

• 20:47Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 20:47Jim Curtis?

  So if you believe that, like whatever you're carrying with you karmically is manifesting as illness today. And then one environmental trigger and it's like, okay, what is this? So you see miraculous recovery with people just by changing and releasing stuff through their energetic and mental body. And so when I could release all my pain through releasing my sorrow, releasing my sadness and forgiveness, then, you know, things really started to heat up.

• 21:20Lewis Howes?

  So you're, how old were you when this started to happen?

• 21:23Jim Curtis?

  Twenty.

• 21:23Lewis Howes?

  Twenty. And so for, you know, twenty plus years, you're in pain, but you're also building businesses. You're making money, you're grinding sixty, eighty hours a week.

• 21:35Jim Curtis?

  Hyper successful.

• 21:36Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, you're like, accomplish, accomplish, win.

• 21:38Jim Curtis?

  Ignore, ignore.

• 21:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, and just stuff the pain.

• 21:41Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 21:41Lewis Howes?

  And keep thriving so I can feel some type of validation or?

• 21:45Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, I'm not good enough. I'm, I'm bad in some way, therefore that's why my body's broken. My word broken would come up a lot. So what am I good at? Okay, let's focus over here.

• 21:55Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, all my attention.

• 21:56Jim Curtis?

  All my attention.

• 21:57Lewis Howes?

  Put all my worth into this success.

• 21:59Jim Curtis?

  Right. So much so where I wouldn't go to physical therapy.

• 22:01Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 22:02Jim Curtis?

  Right? And so that was my mind trap.

• 22:04Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 22:05Jim Curtis?

  Because I needed an identity that was worthy. So I figured out the easiest way to be worthy.

• 22:11Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I think a lot of people can relate to that. If you can, feel free to leave a comment below and let me know how that shows up in your life or where you've been trapped emotionally or physically by putting all your attention in one area where good things happen and trying to stuff or, or hide the other areas that you've been afraid of or ashamed of or whatever you don't feel good enough. Um, so when you started learning hypnotherapy and really diving into it deeper, what was the thing that was a big aha moment for you? That gave you more healing and freedom in your body and in your mind?

• 22:49Jim Curtis?

  Yeah. Um, with the hypnotherapy, the, the hypnosis, the big aha moment was that we can get into a state that we allow our critical mind to be quieted. This critical mind that's always analyzing, analyzing, analyzing. And we can start to reframe.

• 23:12Jim Curtis?

  Different experiences in our lives. We can either even relive events in our lives in a completely different way. Because our subconscious mind and our energy body doesn't know the difference, doesn't know time and space, space and time, doesn't know reality and fantasy, doesn't know those differences. We can actually reframe Quantum Leap all the way back and change experiences that we've had by experiencing that emotion under hypnosis and have profound effects for the future and current version of yourself. That's kind of mind blowing to be able to say that. But that's one of the huge things. So I started to do that with myself, with my own therapist, with my own people that would go to hypnosis and I learned self-hypnosis and I would start to do that with myself.

• 23:57Jim Curtis?

  So I don't meditate anymore. I go into self-hypnosis.

• 24:01Lewis Howes?

  If someone has never experienced hypnosis or therapeutic hypnosis to support their minds and their body get into an energetic state of peace and calm and quieting the critical mind into the more, I guess, positive mind or into a more way of being that serves the mind and body for expansion and abundance. And if someone wanted to tap into a method or a mantra or a process that would allow them to do this for a minute a day of self-hypnosis.

• 24:37Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 24:38Lewis Howes?

  And they wanted to simplify it.

• 24:39Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 24:40Lewis Howes?

  What would that 30-second, one-minute self-hypnosis technique look like for them?

• 24:45Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, all right. Well, good, we'll do a minute. We'll do a minute. And so all we have to do, right, are just take a really deep breath and look directly up into your forehead and hold your breath.

• 24:59Jim Curtis?

  And then release it and look, close your eyes gently and take another one and look all the way up into your forehead.

• 25:09Jim Curtis?

  Looking up and close it and release your eyes all the way down.

• 25:15Jim Curtis?

  Take another really deep breath and look all the way up into your forehead.

• 25:20Jim Curtis?

  Already and release it. And now, all you have to do is focus on my voice. And also, if you're doing this yourself, just notice all the things that you can hear at once. And then start to notice your right hand. And with your eyes closed, you can just notice your right hand. And if your fingertips start to tingle on your right hand. And as your fingertips start to tingle on your right hand, start to notice whether you can make the fingertips tingle on the left hand. Good. Now, as your fingertips tingle on both hands, noticing the energy that's so prevalent in your body,

• 26:02Jim Curtis?

  you can just begin to count down from five, knowing that you'll go a little bit deeper every number that you take. Five, four, three, two, one. And here is your state of relaxation, deepness, complete trance, where you can rejuvenate and just tell yourself something. The most empowering thing that you can possibly tell yourself. The most empowering thing that you can tell yourself starts with the "I am." "I am" is the spell of creation. It is divinity itself. It is creation. And so, whatever you want now, here, down here, you can just mention, "I am..."

• 26:45Jim Curtis?

  Whatever it is. Good. You're completely rejuvenated, completely empowered, feeling the energy of the universe almost flowing through you, the creation itself. And you can just start to come back up. One, two, three, four, and five, eyes wide open and awake. Right back with us. It's like taking a little bit of a valium, right?

• 27:08Lewis Howes?

  It's really relaxing.

• 27:09Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, but it also starts to tell yourself like, "Oh, I can emotionally regulate, and then I can start to code into my system exactly who I really truly am." Yeah, I am.

• 27:22Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Yeah, the first three "I am"s that I thought of are, "I am loved," "I am whole," "I am peace."

• 27:28Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, yeah. And so, if you do that technique from looking up into your head, which is a natural hypnotic trance state, and then releasing the breath, counting backwards, counting down, and getting to a place where you can actually speak to yourself. It's incredibly powerful.

• 27:48Lewis Howes?

  Because the critical mind keeps us in what type of state? If we're always in criticizing, not

• 27:55Jim Curtis?

  Evaluating more information. Let me see, let me see where the issue is. Um, let me project the future. Let me make sure I'm safe. Let me um, test this and see if I need it. Right? It's ego, it's critical, it's, it's safety. And the truth is, when we release all that, is I am what? When you're, what is it? What is the feeling when you release fear and planning and purpose? And you relieve, uh, release all that? The one thing that's left is I am?

• 28:35Lewis Howes?

  I am what?

• 28:36Jim Curtis?

  What is it for you? When you release fear, when you release uh, planning, when you release anxiety, when you release sadness? If none of that was there, what would be there?

• 28:48Lewis Howes?

  And the first thing that came to mind is I'm enough.

• 28:51Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 28:51Lewis Howes?

  But I am love, I am joy, I'm abundance, I'm expansion, all these things.

• 28:56Jim Curtis?

  Yeah. It's I am love, I am expansion, I am joy. It's all these uplifting, powerful things that are, you know, like we've been programmed, we've been given.

• 29:05Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 29:06Jim Curtis?

  And that all these other parts of us kind of cloud.

• 29:09Lewis Howes?

  But if we're in the critical mind consistently throughout the day or for many hours, it's going to put us into a more um, state of stress, it sounds like. Or a more state of concern, or I don't know if lack is the right word, but less of an abundant, joyful, playful state.

• 29:26Jim Curtis?

  100%, 100%. Now, we need the critical mind, right? We have so much information coming that we need to process, we need to create, you know, it's part of the human experience. But when it becomes too hyperactive, when we're not getting into, you know, kind of our subconscious, when we're letting our subconscious rule us instead of, you know, people ask me, is hypnosis mind control? Right? And most people say, no, hypnosis is not mind control. I say, absolutely, it's mind control. Yes. It's mind control. It's your own ability to control your mind. Now, someone like me will help guide you so that you can control your mind, change your subconscious mind, so that you can control it, so it doesn't control you.

• 30:05Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 30:06Jim Curtis?

  And that's the most powerful part of it. You start to have, instead of manifestations, you start to have real realizations, like realizing that I am not separate from all this, that I am not just the wave, I am the ocean. Right? And that I can actually have what it is, this person, this thing, this activity. I don't need to feel anxious, and I don't need to feel separateness. I can feel as though I'm one with it, and that's the true feeling of wholeness and abundance.

• 30:36Lewis Howes?

  What would you say, then, is the most powerful law of the universe to support individuals in creating the reality of their dreams?

• 30:44Jim Curtis?

  Yes, that's such a good question, and it is the, it is I am. So just the words I am. So Neville Goddard, way back when, he found in the Bible this, this saying, I am that I am, right? And if you've ever listened to Deepak Chopra, he talks about I am. A lot of religious, Buddhist, Vedic, all sorts of different philosophies about I am. But it is the spell that is cast that will manifest. If it's I am bad, you guaranteed you will, what you will get. If you can start to say, I am, and listening to you, the words that you use, and starting to feel, I am is the creation.

• 31:24Jim Curtis?

  It is the thought that the universe is experiencing itself through us. And therefore, when we say, I am, we create, because what we, our identity believes that we are, we have. So what I believe I am, I have in life, not what I want. What I want, I'm constantly searching for out here, out here, out here. What I believe that I am, I get.

• 31:49Lewis Howes?

  I agree.

• 31:52Lewis Howes?

  It's interesting because when I think back in my childhood, I used to think internally or say to myself internally and say externally, a lot of I am negative sentences. I am horrible student, I'm bad, I'm this, I'm dumb, I'm stupid, whatever it might be, I'm not good enough, all those different things, or I'm slow, I'm a slow learner, or I can't do that, or whatever this is. These, I guess you'd say, spells or, you know,

• 32:19Jim Curtis?

  Mantras.

• 32:19Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, mantras that I would say, either cautiously or unconsciously, I was then creating. So what you're saying, what you're thinking, you're starting to create.

• 32:28Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 32:29Lewis Howes?

  It doesn't mean it's who you are, but it's what you're manifesting.

• 32:33Jim Curtis?

  It really is. It really is. And our identity is based in I am this. Right? And our identity is based in beliefs of what you are. And your beliefs and identity is what you create and what you manifest. It's that easy, what you see around you.

• 32:50Lewis Howes?

  What was the I am mantras that you would say growing up?

• 32:55Jim Curtis?

  You know, growing up, I was always, I am not good at this. You know, I'm not good at math. You know, when I, you know, there was, I think I was diagnosed by a teacher in school, or I was held back in the first grade because I was diagnosed that I had like slight dyslexia or something like that. And so I would say stuff like that, like I have slight dyslexia. And that wasn't true at all. You know, that has had no impact on my life. So there's a lot of I am's. Yeah. And it goes both ways. You can see what you're good at.

• 33:31Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 33:32Jim Curtis?

  And you could say, oh, I have a great program. I have a great I am for that.

• 33:37Lewis Howes?

  What would you say then is the difference between the law of attraction versus the law of assumption?

• 33:44Jim Curtis?

  Yes. So the law of assumptions are what you assume to be true about yourself. And so I believe that the law of attraction will never really work for you. Until you start to recognize what you're assuming to be true about yourself, then you'll just be consciously trying to attract something by wanting it and feeling it. But really, your operating system, what you assume to be true, right? Those things that you assume you're capable of, that you assume that you can have, are the blocks in the way of that. That's the truth, the truth that you believe. And then you're like, okay, I have this operating system that I'm not looking at, but it has all these assumptions. And now I'm going to go out and try to attract something.

• 34:29Jim Curtis?

  And when it isn't coming, it's because your operating system has assumptions you haven't looked at yet.

• 34:36Lewis Howes?

  Let us say, you know, I really struggled in school, right? And all of my confirmations proved that I struggled in school, based on the test results, based on how long it took for me to study every single night and still not understand the concepts all through, you know, kindergarten until college. And so, let's say that all I saw was evidence that I was a slow learner and I struggled in school.

• 35:04Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 35:06Lewis Howes?

  It was an assumption, right? It was an assumption, but I was like, ah, but it might be true. You know, there's some truth to it because of the results I'm getting as well. How do I not lie to myself and say, actually, I'm a great learner and I'm, this is easy for me? How do I start to reprogram myself without lying, based on evidence that's shown, actually, you haven't been good at this? Or you have been in bad relationship after relationship? Or all these guys did leave you, or these girls did hit, screw you over, or whatever it is?

• 35:34Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 35:35Lewis Howes?

  How do you not lie to yourself with a false assumption, but start to be of greater service to yourself with an empowering assumption, so that you can remove the blocks to manifest more?

• 35:46Jim Curtis?

  That's interesting, because are there really any truths or any lies? Meaning like, perhaps there was a truth that in that way of learning that you, you know, didn't, you didn't resonate with that way of learning?

• 35:59Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 35:59Jim Curtis?

  But would there have been a different way of learning that would say that you picked it up really quickly? Or did you learn other things really quickly? Meaning like, was there plays on the football field?

• 36:09Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, of course.

• 36:10Jim Curtis?

  That you were like, oh, I'm a better learner at this. And therefore, the truth could be that you're an excellent learner. And so we start to think that like, oh, I'm not doing something in a way that is an expectation. And therefore, it creates a belief about this, an assumption. But and and that if I go against that, go against that empirical evidence, then it's a lie. And how do I be practical and real? And breaking free and what I do with people is like, oh, the truth is, there is no reality. There is no lie and there's no truth. It's the matrix. There's no spoon. Right? The truth is that you can see even money. Take money to a desert island. It has worthlessness. It's worthless.

• 36:54Jim Curtis?

  So the truth is, you're probably a fantastic learner. And so anybody that's or the truth is like, you're probably incredibly dateable or incredibly lovable. And that you just need to see it from a different reality, which is when you find the person that resonates with you, or when you find the modality of learning, or when you find X instead of the empirical evidence says, because there's no real evidence.

• 37:22Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah. What would you say then is the biggest thing that blocks people from manifesting more?

• 37:28Jim Curtis?

  So the blocks of manifesting more is their belief that they need to go down a particular avenue to get it. Right? So if I believe that I need to do it this way to have more money. But listen, perhaps you don't have to be in finance. I worked in finance. I was I was worked on the floor of the American Stock Exchange. And is it true that I would never have made much money on the floor of the American Stock Exchange? Yes. And so I recognize that. But it didn't mean that I wasn't capable of making money. I was able to. I just had to find the right avenue to do it. And so you can have more love, you can have more money, realizing that there's no one reality. It's all subjective.

• 38:08Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 38:09Jim Curtis?

  You can have whatever reality you want.

• 38:11Lewis Howes?

  What do you think is the biggest thing that blocks you from from attracting more, manifesting more and raising your frequency every single day in this moment?

• 38:22Jim Curtis?

  That's a great question. What is it is blocking me?

• 38:29Jim Curtis?

  I think that what I'm still working on myself and the parts of me that I'm still working on that's blocking me is my clarity, right? Or my real...

• 38:42Lewis Howes?

  Like on where you're headed or what you want?

• 38:44Jim Curtis?

  No, about I'll take on too many things. I'll take on too many things and then I'm like, okay, I'm going to be able to do all these things and now I'm gonna have to find people to help me. And so I think what blocks me is that, okay, I'm gonna commit to this one thing and go all for it. And even if I think I can help someone over here or here, I'm just gonna commit to this thing, this one thing and do it. And so by not doing that, I think that I spread myself too thin.

• 39:14Lewis Howes?

  So you put yourself into focusing on one thing? And you feel like you can't help more people or more progress at once? Or you feel like by taking on so much, it all suffers?

• 39:24Jim Curtis?

  I think by taking on so much, that I'm splintering my focus.

• 39:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 39:30Jim Curtis?

  It all suffers.

• 39:31Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, your energy is spread thin.

• 39:33Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 39:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. It's interesting because I was at a mastermind years ago in Fiji with Tony Robbins. It was like a week-long thing with Tony Robbins.

• 39:43Jim Curtis?

  Business mastery?

• 39:44Lewis Howes?

  No, it was like a 20-person, like, private mastermind with him. Not a business mastery thing. It was in 2018 or 2019. Yeah, I think it was 2019. And we all went around and we're like in his private resort, right? With like the ocean behind us and we're like sitting out and barefoot, you know, with like Hawaiian shirt type of vibe, like just a little hanging out, like full day with Tony. And my buddy Dean Cross, the U S C, they were putting on this mastermind. And you know, there's 20 of us and everyone's got a hundred million dollar exit somewhere or something else, or a big influencer or whatever. And everyone went around and like asked a question. And I think I was the last person to ask or one of the last couple of people.

• 40:27Lewis Howes?

  So I got to see everyone's kind of questions and there were a lot of breakthroughs and realizations.

• 40:33Lewis Howes?

  So it's kind of like, ah, they all, you know, they all kind of asked something maybe I would have asked, so. Something came to me for whatever reason, because I kind of prided myself as a, I used to be a decathlete in track and field. I was an all-American decathlete. Which is 10 events as a one event thing in track and field.

• 40:52Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 40:53Lewis Howes?

  Right. It's like, I wasn't great at one event, but I was good at 10, which allowed me to be great. At the event of the decathlon.

• 41:00Jim Curtis?

  I mean, that's kind of amazing.

• 41:02Lewis Howes?

  It was cool, right? Because like, one of them been able to accomplish my dream of being an all-American athlete in one event. But I was good enough with everything that I can excel in that event of decathlon. And so I kind of like took that into life and business where I was like, okay, I'm gonna be great at everything. I'm gonna be good at everything, right? I'm gonna try all these different. Uh, products and revenue streams and all these different things at once.

• 41:24Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 41:24Lewis Howes?

  And try to accumulate them all to, to get to where I want to be. But I found myself energetically drained trying to whack a mole every product and project and thing that I was doing at once. Uh, to try to get them all to excel and being great.

• 41:39Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 41:40Lewis Howes?

  And so I was talking, my question was something around like. You know, how do I manage all these things? How do I make all these things better? You know, I'm doing like 10 or 12 different things. And I feel like I'm like a seven out of a 10 on everything.

• 41:53Jim Curtis?

  It's pretty good.

• 41:54Lewis Howes?

  You know what I mean? I was like, it's pretty good, but it's like, I feel like I've been like a seven out of 10 for the last decade.

• 41:59Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 42:00Lewis Howes?

  And he goes, do you want to be a seven out of a 10 type of guy? Or do you want to be a 10 of a 10? I was like, yeah, I think I want to be more of a 10 out of 10. He's like, you gotta learn to focus your energy on like a couple of things, you know? And really, until you get the process and the people in place to accelerate those things, then you could take on something else. Unless you like being a seven out of a 10. And I was like, nah, I just don't like that.

• 42:22Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 42:23Lewis Howes?

  So it was a few years of eliminating certain big revenue streams that brought in a lot of cash. But kind of drained me energetically or just pulled away. And I started going all in on. More of just the show being the main thing and everything started to grow and the impact started to grow as well. In that few year transition, so it's not like it all happened overnight and it was like this effortless thing. There was pain, there was loss, there was grief, there was like a letting go of an old identity. But a but an emerging new identity stepping forward. Um, which has its challenges, so it's interesting to think about, but that's the way you're at now. You're getting this audience growth and awareness and so you have more opportunities coming your way.

• 43:08Jim Curtis?

  I have more opportunities and I can't help everyone, although I want to.

• 43:11Lewis Howes?

  Of course.

• 43:12Jim Curtis?

  And what will help the most amount of people? But um, there's two things that came up with it, you said, and like I've had a chance to work with Tony and Sage and like. There's no one in my better.

• 43:22Lewis Howes?

  Ah, he's great.

• 43:24Jim Curtis?

  Um, so it he that question he asked you was NLP. Has it made you think of, you know, really the decision and the the avenue that you wanted to go down?

• 43:36Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 43:36Jim Curtis?

  Uh, and so that's that's a really powerful use of allowing your mind to kind of like direct itself.

• 43:42Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 43:42Jim Curtis?

  With just one simple question.

• 43:44Lewis Howes?

  And what's the difference between questions and directives?

• 43:47Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, directives, if he was to say to you, um, specifically, um.

• 43:54Jim Curtis?

  A question that was if, um.

• 44:00Jim Curtis?

  If you if you weren't to splinter your energy over there, what would you accomplish?

• 44:04Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 44:04Jim Curtis?

  Or you know, something like that, right?

• 44:05Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 44:06Jim Curtis?

  Instead, he could have just said, don't splinter your, don't splinter your energy. And do this, this. And you say, okay, well, it's Tony Robbins.

• 44:15Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I'm gonna do what he tells me to do.

• 44:16Jim Curtis?

  But all of a sudden you empowered yourself by thinking like, oh, my God, what could possibly be possible? If I didn't do that, right? That's why with compliments, it's the same thing. Sometimes people can't take a compliment. Like you look so beautiful, your hair is so wonderful.

• 44:30Lewis Howes?

  Why is it so hard for people to receive compliments?

• 44:33Jim Curtis?

  Because they have that inner voice that says, ah, they're lying, that's not true, I'm not good enough. I looked at myself in the mirror today and I actually hate my hair, um, whatever it is. But if you say something like. I wonder if you know how good your hair looks today. It's like, oh, I wonder if that is true. Okay, alright, I'm thinking about that. Yeah, you know, and I think it does.

• 44:55Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 44:56Jim Curtis?

  You know, it has much more of an impact.

• 44:57Lewis Howes?

  So as opposed to saying, I love the way your hair looks. Oh, you have great hair today. As opposed to like directing, you have great hair today, or you have great energy today. If someone's not feeling that, they're not gonna believe it right away. If they have a critical mind.

• 45:11Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 45:11Lewis Howes?

  If they have a clear mind and they're open to receiving it, they might say, oh, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

• 45:16Jim Curtis?

  Or they have a belief that their energy is good.

• 45:18Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, they're gonna say, thank you so much. I appreciate you acknowledging that and you look great too, or whatever it is. But if they're critical, which is probably a majority of people.

• 45:27Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 45:27Lewis Howes?

  They are gonna deflect or say, ah, no, I'm just kinda having a bad day, but thanks, or whatever. They're gonna be dismissive of it first.

• 45:35Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, or, or they're gonna say thank you and feel awkward that they got the compliment, or they won't really believe it.

• 45:40Lewis Howes?

  Cause they don't believe it.

• 45:41Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 45:41Lewis Howes?

  But if we compliment someone by saying, I wonder if you realize how good this looks, or how your energy is, or that you've got a great smile today, or whatever.

• 45:50Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 45:50Lewis Howes?

  Then it allows someone to reflect on the compliment in a different way.

• 45:54Jim Curtis?

  Yes, it allows the subconscious mind to actually, subconscious mind loves questions. So it, it answers questions, good and bad. So it will allow it to answer, oh, I wonder. And then, yeah. And then you added the positive aspect of it. So it's like, oh, I wonder, I wonder why that is. Oh, they, it must be true. And so that's, it's an NLP tactic, neurolinguistic programming, but it's super effective to get below the critical mind into the subconscious to actually have someone receive something and start to change. That's what Tony did with you that's so powerful.

• 46:27Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm. What's another way that someone could compliment besides, I wonder? What's another like entry way to compliment with a question?

• 46:35Jim Curtis?

  Did you know? Start with a preposition like perhaps. You know, you know, so start with something that has the mind sinking.

• 46:45Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 46:46Jim Curtis?

  Uh, before you ask their compliment. You know, and be specific. Be specific about what, what they're wearing. So if you're going on a date and instead of, you know, with a beautiful person, man or woman, that probably gets a lot of compliments. You know, that are, or perhaps will, the alarms will go up if you're, if they feel like they're being love bombed with compliments or something like that. So, um, you know, find something specific.

• 47:14Jim Curtis?

  And compliment it, like, you know, did you know how amazing it is that you came on time?

• 47:21Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 47:21Jim Curtis?

  Did you know how amazing, did you know how amazing it is that you wore that dress? I love that color. You're like, oh my God, yeah, that's, that's an interesting like loophole to get into someone's to allow them to really extend, you know, a compliment.

• 47:37Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 47:38Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 47:39Lewis Howes?

  Cause most people are stuck in a stress and anxiety mode pretty consistently with what's going on in their lives or what they're consuming, the content, or they're judging and assessing, whether they're in, they're in criticism mode, or they're in envy mode, or they're in self-loathing mode. So if someone is feeling stressed and anxious consistently, what's a way that they can raise their frequency to start to feel better on a daily basis?

• 48:04Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, yeah, we're constantly in this high delta, beta, scroll, scroll, compare, compare. So we're constantly, you can start to raise your energy just by emotional regulation. And so when you emotionally regulate, you realize that I'm here now in the present moment. And by the way, this really helps with this realization or this manifestation. That when we start to emotionally regulate that I'm here now in this present moment, that we relax and there's so much more that's capable of. And so we start to ask ourselves two things. What's true? Meaning, is that really true? Or is it a thought? Is it, could there be another truth to it?

• 48:50Jim Curtis?

  Right? Is there any other way that's a truth? Meaning there's, if I was to cut your body open and look within your brain and your organs, is that truth in there? And if not, then it's in our thoughts and beliefs. And if that's true, then there's 50 truths. Depending on 50 different people who look at it at the same time. And the second part is, a lot of people just kind of feel like they're doing it wrong.

• 49:17Jim Curtis?

  And I say this a lot. And I say it after every meditation, after every hypnosis, after every coaching. You know, like, you're doing it exactly right. This is the school of life, no pun intended. And the curriculum is difficult.

• 49:36Jim Curtis?

  And to think that you're doing it wrong, it's not true. It's not true. You're doing it exactly right. All these troubles, all these circumstances, all these things you're meant to experience in some way.

• 49:47Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 49:48Jim Curtis?

  Because the consciousness says that it's not happening to us. It's happening through us, for us.

• 49:58Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 49:58Jim Curtis?

  As us. As your consciousness rises, and it's possible to raise your consciousness, grow your consciousness. From victims happening to me, why this boy, this man, this woman, this job, this person, this life, this illness, to it's happening for, through, and as. It's like, oh, okay, that kind of changes. That even opens up my chest a little bit.

• 50:22Lewis Howes?

  Why is something challenging or bad happening for us?

• 50:26Jim Curtis?

  Perhaps it's a lesson. Perhaps, you know, if you believe in something greater than yourself, maybe it's a karmic lesson. Maybe it's a lesson that will help us get to a higher elevation of mind and spirit. Maybe it was meant to happen so that you could help someone else.

• 50:44Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 50:44Jim Curtis?

  Maybe it was for me.

• 50:47Jim Curtis?

  This illness was incredibly difficult. The stress at work was incredibly difficult. All the things that I've dealt with in my life have been really difficult. But I would not be in this moment here, across the table from you, if everything didn't happen.

• 51:02Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 51:03Jim Curtis?

  And so I'm insanely grateful for it.

• 51:06Lewis Howes?

  How old are you, Jim?

• 51:08Jim Curtis?

  Forty-nine.

• 51:08Lewis Howes?

  Forty-nine. So almost three decades of pain or a challenge that you've been working to overcome and get back into wholeness and healing, it sounds like, right?

• 51:20Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 51:23Lewis Howes?

  And it's a lot of pain, like every day, I'm assuming you woke up with pain and you struggled to walk and you had doubts or challenges, at least in the first couple decades, it sounds like. In the last 10 years, it sounds like you've really transformed your thinking and your your energy and you started to really heal and create wholeness.

• 51:39Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 51:40Lewis Howes?

  From the inside out, right? But that's, that's hard when you have chronic pain like that, specifically in your back.

• 51:46Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 51:47Lewis Howes?

  It feels like debilitating, right? It just feels like you can only, you're limited to what you can do. Physically, emotionally, you can't move at a certain speed. It feels limiting, right? Would you take it back?

• 52:00Jim Curtis?

  No.

• 52:01Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 52:02Jim Curtis?

  I know what people feel like when they wake up in the morning and they're like, excuse my language, they're like, ugh. They wake up in the morning and they're just like, getting out of bed is hard because their body hurts. And then it's like immediately your mind hurts.

• 52:17Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 52:17Jim Curtis?

  Right? Because inflammation of the mind inflames the body even more. So vice versa, it's working against each other. And then you're like, okay. Now I'm, now I have this pain and it's like zapping my energy and, and I have this physical condition that's making me different from people and I don't know what it is. And so now I'm obsessing about it. Now I'm unworthy and all those things. So I, and that's incredibly, now try to date.

• 52:44Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 52:45Jim Curtis?

  That's incredibly painful place. That's why I know people so well because I've been there. But there is relief on the other side.

• 52:56Jim Curtis?

  Because of the mind-body connection. When you can start to realize, okay, this isn't happening because I'm a bad person. And there are things I can do to get out of this pain. That the mind is miraculous and the body is too. And if we are actually a projection of something bigger. Meaning like, there is more, we are not our bodies. We are not our jobs. We are not our clothes. We are not our bank accounts. There's something actually bigger. The awareness of all of that. Above it all. We can all kind of like say, what is that voice in my head that's asking these questions? That doesn't feel pain. And definitely not subconscious about the way it walks. Right? That is, that is love. And when you can start to tap into that.

• 53:39Jim Curtis?

  I've had a couple of these epiphanies that I would just break down in tears of relief. Because I tapped into this, oh. Oh, that's relief. And that relief is love. And when you can tap into that through some of these techniques that we've been talking about today. Everything gets easier, the pain goes away. And there have been so many actual clinical studies using hypnosis, meditation, other things. People with chronic pain, it eliminates it. It eliminates the need for opioids.

• 54:10Lewis Howes?

  Self-hypnosis.

• 54:11Jim Curtis?

  Self-hypnosis, different forms of TM, transcendental meditation, and other forms that gets into the subconscious mind in such a way that the mind-body connection, you start to alleviate the inflammation that causes a lot of this pain.

• 54:24Lewis Howes?

  Because in a sense, I mean, it's your, it's your mind interpreting the pain of the body. Isn't that correct? Like, the pain is really just the mind or the brain sending a signal of like, oh, there is pain in this joint or this muscle or this bone area, whatever it might be, this part of your body. It's the mind that's perceiving that, correct?

• 54:44Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 54:45Lewis Howes?

  And so if you can calm the minds and almost get out of your body or above your body or through that pain with calm mind, you almost don't feel the pain anymore.

• 54:58Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, I mean, there's the physical and the energetic. So, one, we have the biggest pharmacy in the world in our bodies. All the best drugs that pharmaceutical companies make.

• 55:08Lewis Howes?

  Can't replace it.

• 55:09Jim Curtis?

  Right, right, and they just enhance what's in our body. So like the opioid receptors and the opioid receptors and all those drugs are just being blocked so that we don't feel pain. So if an outside drug can do that and is releasing drugs within our body or creating changes, then our body can do it.

• 55:30Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 55:31Jim Curtis?

  In fact, there have been, I love the story of this mountain climber. He was, he was climbing, climbing, climbing and he got into a predicament where he was gonna fall. And he reached up and he held on to a part of the mountain or a stick or just something that was sticking out. And he felt no pain. And he an overwhelming calmness. And then he was able to pull himself up and he climbed over and leaned himself against the rock and he had like an out of body euphoria experience. Right? And all that was was his mind.

• 56:15Jim Curtis?

  Releasing D M T, all the opioids, all the oxytocins so that he could have a painless death.

• 56:22Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 56:22Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 56:23Lewis Howes?

  That's where he died?

• 56:23Jim Curtis?

  No, he didn't.

• 56:24Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 56:25Jim Curtis?

  But he.

• 56:25Lewis Howes?

  But in case he would, it would be a, yeah.

• 56:27Jim Curtis?

  And so, but he had a complete euphoria. So if we can get, if we are capable of that. Through deep trance states. We can recreate it. And we can eliminate this, this fear and this pain. And then there's this energetic state that when you grow the energy and Joe Dispenza talks a lot about this, I know he's been on here and I love him. You can start to grow the energy within your body and your meridians. It's a miraculous things happen. I've seen some totally miraculous things happen.

• 56:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 57:00Jim Curtis?

  So for those people who are like suffering. Physically because they've had a breakup or suffering physically because of, of they're unhappy or they have pain in their body. And there's hope.

• 57:15Lewis Howes?

  But again, a lot of people live in pain and then they stress and have anxiety around having the pain and trying to find solutions to get out of it, which causes more stress or more sense of control or consuming energy around what do I do to get out of this or I'm not good enough, I'm not lovable enough. So how do we tell the difference between our intuition and our anxiety speaking to us?

• 57:39Jim Curtis?

  Hmm. That's a great point. Especially that vicious cycle of I need to do like all, how do I get out of this? Right? And, and you can step back and say this. Listen, I'm not wrong for having this. I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm not wrong and I can also find a path forward.

• 57:57Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 57:58Jim Curtis?

  Right? So like stepping out of the weeds for a second, just to say, I'm gonna, this is happening and it's okay. And now let's find a path through. Um, and so then the next question, um, what was the next question?

• 58:13Lewis Howes?

  The difference between understanding your intuition or your anxiety speaking to us?

• 58:18Jim Curtis?

  Yes. So often, um.

• 58:22Jim Curtis?

  And we can talk about muscle testing and kind of how you feel it in your body too. Because intuition is expansive and you usually feel it in your body. And it doesn't create a lot of thought. It's a knowing. Like it's kind of a, maybe you get a little voice or you just kind of feel this expansiveness in your body. And you're like, that's the right one. If you walk into an apartment, you're with a person, you feel that energy.

• 58:45Lewis Howes?

  It resonates.

• 58:47Jim Curtis?

  With anxiety or it starts to feel it in your stomach or in your chest. And then you start to think obsessive. Like you start to find all the avenues. The algorithm runs and you're trying to figure out, figure out, figure it out. But the intuition really tells you. And you can start to, so the other day I'm swimming. And I'm in the pool and I'm doing my typical workout.

• 59:11Jim Curtis?

  And I start to think about all the things I have to do. And I started to think about, oh God, I don't have the right resources to get these done. And then I was like, oh, and I didn't respond to these five people who are waiting. And I literally was getting slower and slower until I just stood up in the middle of the pool. And I like, I just found myself standing up in the middle of the pool. And I was like, oh, I have to really practice what I preach. And so what I started to think about, I have a 17 year old son who's amazing. I got this dog that I love. I got all these awesome things happening with work and community. I got my family, all these amazing things. I started to think about the sunset that I really love. And I started to swim again, more powerfully, stronger than I ever did before.

• 59:54Jim Curtis?

  And I started to say, okay, when you focus on the positive and the outcomes that you want, your body responds and you can actually do muscle testing.

• 1:00:03Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:03Jim Curtis?

  Have you ever done it?

• 1:00:04Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, of course. It's so interesting you say that because I remember my senior year playing college football. The second game of the season, my dad left to go on a vacation with his girlfriend at the time. My parents were divorced many years before that.

• 1:00:26Lewis Howes?

  He got into a car accident that left him in a coma for almost three months. Oh my god. In New Zealand. So I'm in Ohio, in Columbus, Ohio. I'm twenty-two, I'm a senior. Um, and he gets into this car accident. And I get a call at like ten or eleven o'clock a night before a game on Saturday morning. So Friday night before the game. And we don't know if my dad is alive or dead. We just know like he was in an accident, he's in a coma. And it's all the way on the other side of the world. This was in two thousand five. And so it was a lot of uncertainty and anxiety.

• 1:01:03Lewis Howes?

  The next day, I'm like, do I play in this game? Do I like get on a plane and go to New Zealand right now, which is gonna take twenty-four hours to get there? Like, what do I do? Right. Is my dad alive? Is he dead? It was just this uncertainty. And it was a lot of stress getting, going to that game.

• 1:01:22Lewis Howes?

  The second to last play of the game, I break three ribs. Oh my god. We lose the game in the last minute. I break three ribs and I feel like, oh, my season's over. I don't know if my dad's alive or dead right now. And this is really sad. All of this is sad. Cause it was my dream to play professionally and I broke three ribs. And I'd broken the same three ribs the year before in a football game. Oh my god. So I was out for the whole season the year before, recovering from this broke, these broken ribs. It took me like months to recover. And the same three broke again. Someone hit me from the side as I caught a ball and speared me. And I could hear the cracks.

• 1:02:03Lewis Howes?

  And so I'm just, all this pain and stress and anxiety and overwhelm is in my mind right now of like, my, my season is over again. I don't know if my dad is alive or dead. What am I gonna do? And my sisters ended up going to New Zealand. I stayed back because this pain was like throbbing. And to get on a flight for twenty-four hours with like broken ribs, I was like, I need to wait. Anyway, so if I'm gonna do this. So I stayed back and they got there and he's in a coma for this first week while I'm in pain. And I just made a decision. I go, I'm going to heal my, my body. I'm going to come back and I'm going to play the rest of this season, whatever it takes. And I'm going to do it in service of my father.

• 1:02:49Lewis Howes?

  And energetically, I'm going to send him love and inspiration while he's in a coma. I get chills thinking about it. Because within two weeks, I heal my ribs. It's kind of like this miraculous thing. Now, I put a pad over it. So I'm not just like, I keep hitting it over and over. I like put a pad over it, but I'm able to run, jump, catch, everything, move how I need to. And I get back on the field. I missed two games and I come back. And every day in practice and every game, I would put tape around my wrists and on my, my cleats. And just put for dad and I put his, his name. So I was playing for something bigger than myself. I was playing to send energy so that he would heal or recover or get out of this coma.

• 1:03:33Lewis Howes?

  And by playing for something bigger than me, I felt like it made me heal faster. It made me stronger. And the crazy thing, Thanksgiving week, he woke up. So a couple of months later, he woke up. Now, he had a very long, he never fully recovered and he was, he struggled for 17 years after that until he passed. But it was a powerful way to think beyond the pain and beyond the brokenness physically. Or spiritually that I was experiencing with my father, where he was, I wasn't sure if he was going to live or not. And it gave me a sense of energy to get out of myself, something greater than the sadness I was facing.

• 1:04:15Lewis Howes?

  The anxiety, the worry that I was facing, the loss that I might be facing. And it allowed me to put my energy and attention towards healing and sending love. Through the journey of how am I going to show up every single day? How am I going to practice with love and joy? How I'm going to, you know, come back and do my best to help the team win? And I had the best season of my life, missing two games with three broken ribs.

• 1:04:41Jim Curtis?

  Wow, that gave me chills.

• 1:04:42Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, it was, it was powerful, but it was, and I could have easily gone into, why did this happen to me? My my my dream is over, all these things are over and it did do that for a few days until I made a decision. And a lot of it was just directing myself, like you said, and creating new mantras, new beliefs and reprogramming. No, I am gonna create a healing for myself. I am gonna show up every single day in appreciation and gratitude, even though I may have lost my dad. And I'm gonna do the best that I can do. And it was a it was a powerful two, three month journey. While there was so much uncertainty with if he was gonna live or die. And if I could play, but it was powerful for me for that season of life when I was 22.

• 1:05:27Lewis Howes?

  Just trying to figure out what to do with my life at that time.

• 1:05:30Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, and some people may be listening to that and be like, yes, but. You know, my my sadness is too overwhelming. I can't do that. And that's a mind trap of the backfire, if I get it. And and and it's completely possible. But it's also because you had a mission and a vision.

• 1:05:47Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:05:48Jim Curtis?

  Right? So if we don't figure out what our mission and vision is life, or something greater than us, that like. You know, make money, have a fancy car. Then our then we will stay stuck in ruts longer. Because we don't have like that greater something propelling you.

• 1:06:07Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:07Jim Curtis?

  And to have a real mission and vision, you got to figure out what, you know, a little bit of what you want and say, what is that? Driving force that is going to drive me and my vision. So when things get tough, I can be resilient.

• 1:06:21Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm. One of the one of the things I like around, you know, having a mission and a vision, like you said there. Is creating a season of life within that mission, mission and vision, you know, I had a three month window. It was a season. It wasn't like, okay, the next 10 years I have to do this thing.

• 1:06:39Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:40Lewis Howes?

  It was this season is over in three months. What can I do within this season? What is my mission right now? To heal, to recover, to be the best I can and practice every day, to play my best in the games. And finish this season the best I can within the next three months. And I think sometimes people. I'm not saying you always need a timeline of things, but I think. Having a season of life, knowing this is what I'm up to right now. It may not be forever. But this is what I'm creating for this year, this six months, this month to get me out of this rut and into this process. So.

• 1:07:12Jim Curtis?

  Achievable.

• 1:07:12Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, something in a season timeline.

• 1:07:14Jim Curtis?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:15Lewis Howes?

  Um, I got a couple of final questions for you, Jay. One of them is, what's the difference between creating results by focusing on the outcome you want versus the outcomes you don't want?

• 1:07:27Jim Curtis?

  All right, well, you're gonna create whatever you focus on. Right, so constantly, we start to focus on what's missing or what we don't want. Meaning, um, so I had, uh, I had these terrible pains in my stomach. Terrible pains in my stomach, and I was like, oh geez, this something's wrong. This is, this is not, I didn't eat something bad, this is, this is an issue. And so I tried to, um, ignore it. And finally, I went to the emergency room in Manhattan, near my house, which is, you know, very crowded, and it's, eh, it is near a methadone clinic. It's a very difficult place.

• 1:08:08Jim Curtis?

  People are detoxing, people are very ill, it's very crowded, so they, they admit me, they put me on a gurney, I'm in a hallway, there's no room, you're just in a hallway at a gurney. And I had, uh, maybe two years earlier, been to the emergency room, spent like thirteen hours in there. And so I went in at like seven PM. And so all I'm thinking about is, this is a major issue. This, um, I'm gonna be here all night, who's gonna take care of my dog? Um, I have things to do, and maybe I have to like stay overnight. And it's like, they're never gonna get to me. And so I'm laying on the gurney, I start to, um, really freak out and stress about the things that I don't want. And, and the pain is getting worse.

• 1:08:51Jim Curtis?

  Worse and worse and worse, the more I think about it, the more I stress that the pain is getting worse. And so the nurse comes over, is like, how long is this gonna take? And she's like, expect to be here for hours. And so, it's getting so bad, I'm laying on this gurney in the middle of people are doing detoxing, I'm in the middle of the, the wing, um, it's a mess. And I start to think to myself, I need to, again, practice what I preach. What is the outcome I want? What is the real outcome I want? I want this pain to go away. Okay, what does that feel like? That feels like joy, that feels relief, that feels like excitement. What else do I want? I want the doctor to come and say, there's no problem, you can leave. Hmm, okay, what else do I want? I want to be out of here by nine thirty.

• 1:09:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:35Jim Curtis?

  I wanna be out by nine thirty.

• 1:09:37Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:38Jim Curtis?

  Literally, I'm just, it's a two and a half hour experience for me. I want in and out. And so the nurse comes over again, I say, listen, what's the next steps here? And she's like, well, you're gonna get this imaging. How long, it was, we're pretty backed up, it's like an hour. Okay, so like, let's, something's gonna happen here. Where the woman comes out and says, you're ready. We're ready for you. Literally in fifteen minutes, the woman came out and said, we're ready for you. And as soon as she said, we're ready to take your imaging, my pain went like from a ten to a seven. I was like, okay, this is good, we're getting somewhere, that's, I like that. And so I get the imaging, it's very quick. I come back, I say, how long do results usually take? Oh, about an hour or two, because we're backed up. I started to think, okay, what's the best result here?

• 1:10:20Jim Curtis?

  Okay, they come back quickly with, with quick imaging. And then within twenty minutes, they came back. And they said, we got bad news, you have appendicitis. I was like, this is not, this is not the outcome I want.

• 1:10:33Lewis Howes?

  Man.

• 1:10:33Jim Curtis?

  How did I do all this work? And still get a really difficult outcome? Because they have to do surgery on that, right? And so.

• 1:10:40Lewis Howes?

  Is it like appendix, they take your appendix out or something else?

• 1:10:42Jim Curtis?

  That's surgery, that's emergency surgery.

• 1:10:45Lewis Howes?

  Right then?

• 1:10:46Jim Curtis?

  Right then, so I started to say, okay, that's not the outcome though.

• 1:10:50Lewis Howes?

  That's not good.

• 1:10:51Jim Curtis?

  But I'm still not gonna go there.

• 1:10:52Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 1:10:53Jim Curtis?

  I'm still not gonna go there, I'm gonna continue to focus on the outcome that I want. And I said I'd be out of here by nine thirty. And this is, I'm gonna, the surgeon's gonna come down and say that there was a mistake or something. But what's the outcome that I want, the feeling that I want? And I started to focus on this expansion, this feeling that I want. And it's like, this is not happening to me, this is not my reality. I'm focusing only on the outcome that I want. And that's ease and joy and me walking out of here with relief at, at, at nine thirty PM. And so the surgeon does come down and he's like, listen. We don't really do surgery that much anymore for appendicitis unless it's about to burst. And in fact, we could probably give you some antibiotics now. And if it flares up again, you go see a surgeon on your own time and you get it taken out quickly.

• 1:11:35Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 1:11:36Jim Curtis?

  And here's a surgeon's name that is associated with the hospital. I'm like, so I can leave? And they're like, yeah, you just get this like a bag of IV of antibiotics. And she puts it in, she's really quick about it and it goes in about 10 minutes. And I'm like, holy, I can't believe this is happening. And then I'm just like, I get up. I said, that's it, I can go and assign these papers. I go, I walk out the door and I'm like, let me just check. I go reach in my phone, I check 9:32.

• 1:12:01Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:12:02Jim Curtis?

  9:32.

• 1:12:03Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:12:04Jim Curtis?

  So when you focus on the outcomes that you want, instead of the outcomes that I don't want, oh my God, this is painful, this is terrible. All these, life gets easier. You manifest what you want and also your pain goes down. I was walking out of there and the antibiotics shouldn't have been, didn't take effect that quickly, but my pain had gone from a 10 to a 3.

• 1:12:25Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, you struggle walking some days, but you were skipping out of there. You're like, jumping out of it.

• 1:12:30Jim Curtis?

  I was literally walking so easily out of there. So like, when you focus on the outcomes that you want, you get the outcomes when you want. When you focus on the outcomes that you don't want, you get the outcomes you don't want.

• 1:12:44Lewis Howes?

  What are your favorite affirmations for abundance then? That people can say to themselves every single day?

• 1:12:49Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, so I really love studying the I am frequency. That's of creation, wholeness, that you are not the separate wave, you are the ocean. And so I use I am. And so like, I am money. Like I am the energy of money. I am the frequency of money. I am abundance itself. I, you know, money flows to me easily. The I am. Oftentimes, when you just repeat the mantra, I am, it's like the message to the universe that you are whole, one and complete. And so I don't say anything, I feel my energy expand. And I did it to prepare for this interview today.

• 1:13:33Jim Curtis?

  I did it to prepare for everything. It's such miraculous things because when you're not separate, you're one with everything that you want. And so the I am mantra, just sitting in a quiet place, feeling your energy expand with I am. Positive thoughts about what you want, I am, I am, I am that I am.

• 1:13:53Lewis Howes?

  And just repeating that at any moment throughout the day.

• 1:13:55Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, and then with your affirmations, you can put what you want at the end of I am and then using the question format, right? Even start to say, how is it that I am? How is it that I am so worthy of money?

• 1:14:12Lewis Howes?

  So I mean, show me universe is what you're saying.

• 1:14:13Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, so like the questions before that we were asking the subconscious mind, the NLP, you can start to use questions within your affirmations, like, how is it that I am so good at making money? Right? And the subconscious mind isn't gonna say, no, you're not good at making money. That's nice job. The subconscious mind is to say, answer that question. How is it that I'm so good at making money? Remember, well, you're industrious. When you were 10, you had a paper route and you knew how to do it.

• 1:14:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, you're resourceful, you're this, you're that, you got this job, you did this thing when you showed up this way. So keep doing more of that.

• 1:14:45Jim Curtis?

  Exactly right.

• 1:14:47Lewis Howes?

  You've got great content on social media, Jim Curtis one, I believe it is, right? On Instagram?

• 1:14:51Jim Curtis?

  Jim Curtis one.

• 1:14:52Lewis Howes?

  Jim Curtis one everywhere. And there was a video you talked about, which are the top four signs someone is living in a high vibrational state. Can you share what those four signs are?

• 1:15:02Jim Curtis?

  I love this. Yeah, if you notice like animals are like coming over to you.

• 1:15:08Lewis Howes?

  Calmly and just like loving. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:15:11Jim Curtis?

  I was at a friend's house the other day. She's like, boy, my dog hate, you know, is always growling and biting people. And this dog is like in my face, like wanting me to pet it. So, you know, cats are always at your legs. The, the dog that no one likes is kind of like trying to get your attention. Animals like you. Friends and family members are asking your advice. They want your counsel. They're, they're, they're interested in kind of your point of view.

• 1:15:45Jim Curtis?

  Do you ever have that kind of baby that is just always staring at you? You walk by babies and they're like kind of caught up in your aura, they're like staring at you.

• 1:15:56Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, if it was an adult, it'd be a creep, but since it's a cute baby, you're like, ah, I keep staring for like five minutes into my soul.

• 1:16:02Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, and you're staring back? Those are some really easy ways to tell that.

• 1:16:07Lewis Howes?

  If it was an adult, you'd be in jail, you know, but if it's a baby, it's different. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:16:11Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, yeah, those are some ways just to show that like you have a higher frequency, that you're resonating at a higher frequency.

• 1:16:18Lewis Howes?

  So if animals like you, friends, family ask for your counsel, babies stare at you.

• 1:16:23Jim Curtis?

  Staring at you, you know, things just seem to go your way.

• 1:16:28Lewis Howes?

  It's like you have luck all the time.

• 1:16:31Jim Curtis?

  Not all the time, but it seems like, yeah.

• 1:16:33Lewis Howes?

  It's like things go your way.

• 1:16:36Lewis Howes?

  That's good. And why do you think animals and babies or people can intuitively sense when someone is in a high energy state? Like, what is that? What is that energy, that aura, that essence? Is it a belief that someone is living within? Is it a calm? Is it a relaxed state? Is it, you know, can you trick them? Can you trick animals or babies to like, hey, I'm this charismatic like human, but really be negative inside?

• 1:17:08Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, especially horses, they know.

• 1:17:10Lewis Howes?

  They feel it.

• 1:17:11Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, they feel it. So that is our true essence. That's our truth, right? We have this ability to sense things. And that's why I always say when we're about to do a session that has trance or hypnosis work, like lock up your babies, lock up your, lock up your dogs and cats. I say it jokingly because as soon as you get into that theta state, they're like, oh, you're here too? What are you doing here? And then they jump on you, but we all have this innate wisdom to be able to sense the vibration and energy. And it's just our mind's so loud, we don't, we, we second guess it. But we're all feeling it. We're feeling the energy of each other in the first second.

• 1:17:55Jim Curtis?

  Feeling it from when, when we walk in the room, if the person's in another room, you can just feel it. And when you quiet down your mind, you know, we all have.

• 1:18:04Lewis Howes?

  It's so interesting because I feel like I've always.

• 1:18:08Lewis Howes?

  You know, I struggled with not feeling like I had the smarts or the skills from school to be useful for people in life. Because I was in the bottom of my class all through school. So I had this belief like, ah, I'm not good in school. Can I be useful in life? But as I started to play sports and I started to learn human dynamics of teamwork, of being coachable, of coaching others, of just like in a dynamic of we're setting up for a goal. We're practicing, we're going through challenges and overcoming them together and we're accomplishing goals or we're failing at them, but we're learning lessons together and kind of enduring

• 1:18:51Lewis Howes?

  this season of sports. I started to understand people better. And I said, oh, okay, maybe I don't have skills or smarts here from school subjects and like memorizing stuff for tests. But when it comes to sports and mobilizing a goal and trying to accomplish that within a groups of people, I can excel and I'm actually really good and I'm very talented in this in this side of life. But I remember going into, you know, after my sports career was over and I was like, how do I make money like? And everyone's asking about your resume and about the college degree and like, what was your GPA? This is back in like 2017, 18.

• 1:19:34Lewis Howes?

  Like, I can't show them any of those things because I didn't have any skills from that world. But I don't know if this sports stuff would translate into a career or business. So I was really concerned about it. I was like, will I ever make money? I have no idea. And early on, I started attending these kind of like social media meetups. And I just went in there with like curiosity and joy. And so I was just going in for fun. I was meeting people, I was asking questions. I was like, man, what you're doing is so cool over here. And I was just curious the whole time. And by doing that and asking questions and kind of bringing that energy. People just wanted to help me.

• 1:20:15Lewis Howes?

  And so I always started to, so I started to go to a lot of events and I started to build relationships. And I just brought energy and joy and positivity to these events. Knowing that I couldn't bring like some skill from a work career, because I didn't have a work career. But I had energy. I had passion. I had curiosity. I had like a sense of like wonder and love for what people were doing and what they overcame. And I always found that people just wanted me to like, they wanted to invite me to the next thing. And they wanted to introduce me to this person and that led to something.

• 1:20:48Jim Curtis?

  Because you made them feel in a different way. They don't care if you know it's how you feel.

• 1:20:51Lewis Howes?

  It's it. It's it. And so I just really leaned into that. And anytime I felt self-conscious like, man, I don't, I have nothing to offer these individuals. Like everyone here is smarter than me, way more talented. I was like, but when I enter this room, I can, I can stand up a little taller. I can smile and I can ask questions and be curious. And I can bring joy to what people are talking about. And I felt like that was one of the greatest skills that I brought for many years and probably still bring. Because I still don't feel like I'm the smartest person ever in any room. But I can bring positive energy and joy and curiosity. And I think people are craving that. So you gotta look at what are the resources you can bring to a situation?

• 1:21:35Lewis Howes?

  That raises your frequency and raises the energy in any room to be of service to those individuals.

• 1:21:41Jim Curtis?

  Yeah, I think that's an amazing point. How do you think you learned that? How do you, how'd you know?

• 1:21:45Lewis Howes?

  Survival, survival. Because I was like, you know, the, you know, the housing market crashed and the economy was down at this time. And I was like, ah, how do I get a job? I don't know. I was living on my sister's couch for a year and a half.

• 1:21:57Jim Curtis?

  Someone else might have gone a different route. How did you know that you were gonna go with curiosity?

• 1:22:01Lewis Howes?

  I think because I didn't have the skill from school. I didn't have like a, you know, a high GPA or like skills from school. So it was survival. It was like, how do I get into a room? How do I get a seat at the table? How do I meet these people? Let me show up at the event and let me ask questions. Because I can't say something like I know what I'm talking about. So I just. Didn't speak about anything I knew. I just asked questions and said, what do you know?

• 1:22:30Jim Curtis?

  And guess what? People like to be asked questions.

• 1:22:31Lewis Howes?

  They love it. They love it. And they were like, I would ask questions. I wouldn't say anything about myself. And at the end of the night, people like, this is the most interesting guy in the room. And no one knew anything about me.

• 1:22:40Jim Curtis?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:22:41Lewis Howes?

  But I was just like fascinated with people. I was like, man, how'd you do this? Man, tell me more. This is incredible. And people are like, I like this guy. Let me meet this person. Oh, you know.

• 1:22:51Jim Curtis?

  Be curious. That's, I mean, anybody listening to this in their business or dating life, like find, find some authentic curious questions to ask.

• 1:22:59Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely, yeah.

• 1:23:00Jim Curtis?

  People like to be listened to.

• 1:23:02Lewis Howes?

  That's it, man. Jim, I appreciate this. I got three final questions for you, two final questions for you. Uh, before I do, I, I want people to follow you, Jim Curtis on social media, Jim Curtis one.

• 1:23:13Jim Curtis?

  Jim Curtis one.

• 1:23:13Lewis Howes?

  On social media. Do you have a website too, where people can go to?

• 1:23:16Jim Curtis?

  Jim Curtis one.

• 1:23:17Lewis Howes?

  Jim Curtis one.

• 1:23:18Jim Curtis?

  Yep.

• 1:23:18Lewis Howes?

  Dot com.

• 1:23:19Jim Curtis?

  Yep.

• 1:23:19Lewis Howes?

  They can check it out there.

• 1:23:20Jim Curtis?

  Cool.

• 1:23:21Lewis Howes?

  But you've got a lot of great content. If people are looking for affirmations and mantras and just great inspiration to serve you. If getting out of anxiety or stress, check you out on social media. Um, a lot of great content there. And I want to acknowledge you, Jim, for, you know, all that you've endured and overcome for three decades of pain. Cause I know how challenging life can be when you feel constant pain, fatigue, stress in your body. It can feel daunting. It can feel like it's so hard to overcome. Like, is there ever going to be a relief? Am I going to be stuck like this for the rest of my life? It can feel like the biggest weight in the world holding you down.

• 1:24:03Lewis Howes?

  So I want to acknowledge you for not letting that weight define you, but redefining who you are. And continually evolving your identity to be of service to humanity by learning new skills, by learning new resources, by finding new skills to serve your mind and your body to be whole and free again. And being a messenger of hope for other people who might be experiencing something in their life, physically or mentally that's holding them back. So I want to acknowledge you for the journey you're on and. The, the process of you continually showing up and being of service. I appreciate you doing that.

• 1:24:43Jim Curtis?

  Thanks, I appreciate that.

• 1:24:45Lewis Howes?

  This is a question I ask everyone towards the end. It's called the three truths. So imagine hypothetically, you get to live as long as you want, but it's your last day on earth. And many years in the future. And on this last day, you have accomplished everything you want in your life. And you've experienced life to the fullest and you've seen all your dreams come to reality. Physically, spiritually, materially, everything. But it's the last day. And on the last day,

• 1:25:14Lewis Howes?

  in this hypothetical world, you've got to take all of your work with you. Your content, your message, your book, this video, anything you've ever shared with the world, it's got to go with you to the next place when you pass. So we don't have access to your content anymore. But you do get to leave behind three things that you know to be true. Three lessons from all of your experience. And we do get to keep that. What would be those three lessons or three truths for you that you would leave behind?

• 1:25:44Jim Curtis?

  That's amazing. We are not defined by our pain or our body.

• 1:25:49Jim Curtis?

  We are greater than our pain and our body. We are not defined by it.

• 1:26:01Jim Curtis?

  All people, all of us, every one of us are at our core. Our very, very core need that drives everything else that we possibly do in life is love. That's our core need, our core desire, our core, everything. We want to be loved and to love something, someone.

• 1:26:27Jim Curtis?

  And the third is we are in our reality. Our current outer reality is always shaped by our inner reality. And, and both of those are, are mutable, meaning we can change them. We can craft them. We can, we can affect them.

• 1:26:49Lewis Howes?

  I love those. And final question, what's your definition of greatness?

• 1:26:56Jim Curtis?

  A definition of greatness is your contribution to the world. Not what you have, but who you can actually impact. Yeah, Jim Curtis, thanks for being there, man. Appreciate it.

• 1:27:06Lewis Howes?

  I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you, if no one has told you lately, that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And

• 1:27:50Lewis Howes?

  now it's time to go out there and do something great.