The Trapped Emotions Blocking Your Love and Health | Dr. Bradley Nelson

Dr. Bradley Nelson, chiropractor with 38 years experience and creator of the Emotion Code, Body Code, and Heart Code, founder and CEO of Discover Healing, discusses trapped emotions, Heart-Wall theory, and muscle testing methodology. He has certified over 17,000 practitioners across 108 countries, authored The Emotion Code, The Body Code, and The Heart Code, and references emotioncodenow.com and Albert Einstein’s frequency medicine concept.

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• 0:46Speaker 01

  90% of all the physical pain that people have is due to emotional baggage.

• 0:52Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 0:53Speaker 01

  Yes. What I have found over 38 years of doing this is that this emotional baggage is the single biggest common denominator for all of the physical and mental and emotional difficulties that we experience. Emotional baggage is, in my experience, the by far the biggest underlying cause of things like depression and anxiety and phobias and panic attacks and PTSD.

• 1:15Lewis Howes?

  He's a bestselling author and the creator of The Emotion Code. He's the founder and CEO of Discover Healing. Please welcome Dr. Bradley Nelson.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  93% of people have a heart wall and don't know it. And so it's the majority of people. It's how most people are living. And what's interesting is when people get rid of that emotional baggage, and especially when that heart wall, when that gets taken down, people often fall in love who never thought they would.

• 1:40Lewis Howes?

  And what does a heart wall actually mean?

• 1:42Speaker 01

  Well...

• 1:48Lewis Howes?

  What is the number one negative subconscious belief that most people have that holds them back from reaching their fullest potential?

• 1:58Speaker 01

  I would say that when it comes to belief, probably the thing that we see the most is feelings of unworthiness, right? Undeserving. I don't deserve to have that. And I don't deserve to have success. I don't deserve to have money. I don't deserve to have love. I'm not good enough, right?

• 2:17Lewis Howes?

  Why do so many people believe that they're not worthy of success, love, abundance, freedom, peace, or all of the joy that life has available for them? Is this conditioned from their environment? Is it from their ancestors passed down on this belief system? Is it just the language they hear from their parents and their peers? Is this the news they watch? Is it a combination of all of it? But where does this all come from?

• 2:41Speaker 01

  I would say really it's all of the above. I know that, for example, in my own case, my ancestors on my father's side were from Ireland. They were very poor. And a lot of those beliefs, you know, came down through the line to me. And I had to, I had to work on a lot of that. You know, we all inherit emotional energies. Not only do we develop emotional baggage from the things we do in our own lives, the things that happen to us, the things that we do, the mistakes that we make, but we're also handed a certain amount of emotional baggage at conception from our ancestors and the things that they went through. And so that's one of the really exciting parts of the work that we do

• 3:25Speaker 01

  is that we teach people how they can identify that emotional baggage. And it may be that the reason now or why they're feeling unworthy or why they're having a hard time with love. Well, maybe it's because, you know, their eighth great grandmother was jilted at the altar and that emotional energy was so powerful that's been passing down the line like a freight train. Or maybe some other ancestor was thrown into the poorhouse. And so they may have difficulties with money because of these deep, deep feelings, these energies that they're not even aware of. And yet they're directing or really misdirecting their lives.

• 4:03Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. I mean, you've done how many sessions now and worked with people from the practice that you've done?

• 4:09Speaker 01

  Thousands. I mean, yeah. We've certified over 17,000 practitioners, well, almost 17,000, I think, right now, in about 108 countries or so, trained them in the Emotion Code and Body Code.

• 4:21Lewis Howes?

  But you've done thousands or tens of thousands of your own sessions, working with people from, you know, previously as a chiropractor, right? And then into more energy work and understanding people's energies and emotions. And what I'm hearing you say is, is it a sense of worthiness or a lack of worthiness and deservingness? That is kind of one of the main things you read on people or sense or feel with people?

• 4:44Speaker 01

  Let's talk about energy. Albert Einstein said, "The medicine of the future will be the medicine of frequencies." And Nikola Tesla said, "If you want to understand the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration," right? And these very smart guys understood, you know, the nature of reality. And so if you were to magnify your hand, for example, under a big microscope, if you kept zooming in past the level of the cell and past the level of the molecule to the level of the atom, you'd understand suddenly that there's really nothing solid there. Albert Einstein himself said that there is no matter as such.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  Matter is just frequency, energy that's been slowed down in its frequency enough that we, you know, can see it and touch it and so on. And so that's what our bodies are. Well, everything really is energy, including thought is energy, emotions are energy. So what we believe is that every emotion has its own specific frequency of vibration. So if you're feeling an emotion of anger and you're really angry, well, your body is feeling a different frequency, it's vibrating at a different frequency than it was a minute ago when you weren't feeling that emotion. Or if you're feeling an emotion of grief, that's a different frequency than anger. And they're all different. But what happens is normally when we feel an emotion,

• 6:10Speaker 01

  of course, it's always in response to some kind of a stimulus. You know, we've seen something or thought something or someone said something to us or whatever. Normally what happens is that emotion begins to well up. We begin to feel a specific emotion, a certain feeling. And we normally allow that emotional feeling to kind of, we acknowledge it and we just kind of allow it to dissipate and go away. And this is the normal way we deal with emotions. It happens to all of us every single day, multiple times a day. But sometimes we deal with it differently. Sometimes an emotion comes up and maybe you don't want to go there. And so you bury that emotion, right? Maybe you learned that that specific emotion is a bad emotion. You don't want to feel it.

• 6:53Speaker 01

  And so it comes up and you bury it. That will result in that emotional energy being unexpressed in the body. So it's a trapped emotion is what we call it. Now, you can also develop a trapped emotion. If an emotion comes up for you and you decide that you're justified in taking that emotion and in blowing it up to the nth degree. And those are the situations where usually afterward, you're saying to yourself, boy, I really got to get a handle on myself. You know, I really blew up there. That was kind of embarrassing. We do that too. That will result in emotional baggage or these trapped emotions. Or sometimes things happen that are just overwhelming, you know? Suddenly your spouse asks you for a divorce out of nowhere. Or maybe suddenly you get a phone call that someone is injured or died or, you know,

• 7:38Speaker 01

  terrible things happen. And those emotions are overwhelming and they can also develop into emotional baggage, emotional energy. So what happens to us is that we all have these emotional energies that inhabit our bodies. And they misdirect our lives. They interfere with our ability to really create the lives that we're capable of creating.

• 8:02Lewis Howes?

  What happens in the body then when we hold on to emotions rather than expressing them in a healthy way?

• 8:09Speaker 01

  Well, what I have found over 38 years of doing this is that this emotional baggage is the single biggest common denominator for all of the physical and mental and emotional difficulties that we experience. So for example, emotional baggage is, in my experience, the by far the biggest underlying cause of things like depression and anxiety and phobias and panic attacks and PTSD and eating disorders and self sabotage. 90% of all the physical pain that people have is due to emotional baggage.

• 8:42Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 8:43Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 8:43Lewis Howes?

  Wow. Unless it's like a car accident or a physical trauma that's happening.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:48Lewis Howes?

  Or you think that's tied to emotional pain too or emotional baggage?

• 8:51Speaker 01

  The fascinating thing that I found when I was in practice, and I worked with a lot of athletes, but lots of other people coming in with all kinds of different, you know, problems with physical pain. Let me share a story with you. This guy came into my office one day and he's... He's really got severe low back pain, right? It's like a nine, nine, nine and a half bumping around 10 with his low back. And he's talking about surgeries, his next stop. And it's been going on for a while. And using the emotion code, I tested him and found he had a trapped emotion. The emotion was anger. And I needed to know a little bit more about this. That's one of the questions we ask of the subconscious mind. Do we need to know more about this? I got a yes answer.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  And did a little more testing and found that this had started 20 years before. And he immediately remembered and he said, yeah, I said, I know exactly what that is. And I said, really? He said, he was working for this company and he was wrongly accused of cooking the books. Basically, you know, or embezzling and he was completely innocent. And so he was, there's no fury quite like that of being wrongly accused. And you know that you're not guilty. And so he was so mad about that. That emotion was so powerful, his body couldn't really process it. That energy became trapped in his body and his low back. 20 years later, you see, when you have a trapped emotion, what we believe is that it's a little ball of energy.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  They're invisible, but they're about so big, about the size of a baseball or a softball. And what they do, wherever they lodge in the body and they can lodge anywhere, they will distort the normal energy field of the body. And so because that's

• 10:31Lewis Howes?

  The flow of the energy in the body.

• 10:32Speaker 01

  Exactly. The energy flow through the meridian systems interfered with, because the body itself is just a very complex energy field. When you interfere with that and when you distort that energy field, you're interfering to some degree with chemical reactions going on in that area with maybe blood flow, lymph flow to some degree. When I released that trapped emotion, the pain level went from nine, nine and a half to zero instantly. Right? And this guy's, he's, he's walking around in my office and he's bending over and he's twisting this way and that way. And he's saying, where did it go? Cause it was completely gone. Now, why'd that happen? Well, when we release that energy, suddenly that distorting force is gone.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  But now think about this, this guy, a couple of days later, came back into the office. And he said, you know, he said, my back pain is still gone. He said, I still can't quite believe it. But he said, when I came in here, I had another problem I didn't tell you about. He said, for as long as I can remember, I've basically been what you'd call a rageaholic. He said, I'm, I've really just been a live wire. And he said, I, you know, I'm always getting in arguments with my wife and I'm, you know, I have to watch the road rage. I had to go to anger management a couple of times. Hasn't really helped me. But he said, since you released that trapped emotion of anger for me, from that thing that happened 20 years ago, he said, I feel really different. He said, I just feel kind of calm and kind of peaceful. And he said, things that used to set me off instantly, don't set me off anymore.

• 11:59Speaker 01

  He said, how did you do that? And I said, I don't know. Cause I didn't know.

• 12:04Lewis Howes?

  At the time, we didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:05Speaker 01

  But here's what we believe.

• 12:06Lewis Howes?

  You also, you also eliminate the pain. You're going to feel a lot more joy too. You're going to be less angry if you're like pain free.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  True. But what, what, what we believe is that in that guy's life, think about this, he had this ball of anger. You know, this literally this ball of frequency that if you could stick a probe into it and measure the emotion, it would go right to anger. Right? He had that ball of energy in his low back all those years. So when a situation would come along in his life, like somebody cuts him off in traffic.

• 12:34Lewis Howes?

  Instant reaction, right?

• 12:35Speaker 01

  Instant, because part of his body is already vibrating at that frequency.

• 12:40Lewis Howes?

  Gosh, I could, I, I know that feeling. I had that for many years. It was like an instant response. It was like stimulus, anger.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 12:48Lewis Howes?

  Reaction as opposed to response from like a neutral place.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  Exactly. And that's where he moved to.

• 12:55Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 12:55Speaker 01

  And it's not unusual when those emotional energies are released. Uh, it's, you know, people often say that when they get rid of enough of their emotional baggage, that it's like stepping out of this old suit they've been walking around in, into this totally different state of being. That is really who they were intended to be, you know, when they, when they first arrived here.

• 13:14Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, loving, joyful, peaceful.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Exactly. High vibrations.

• 13:18Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 13:21Lewis Howes?

  What's the, what's the strongest daily practice to make sure that we are dealing or navigating our emotions as they come and go?

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Well, it's important, I think, to realize that we have a choice, right? Most people, I think, kind of just automatically assume that they're at the mercy of their emotions. That if some emotion comes up, in fact, people say funny things. They'll say things like, you know, he made me so angry or, you know? And of course, nobody can make you feel anything.

• 13:52Lewis Howes?

  What happens when someone says, the government makes me angry, my wife, my husband make me angry. They, my ex did this to me. It makes me angry still today. What is someone saying when they're saying someone else made them angry right now?

• 14:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, of course, what they're saying is that that's what they have chosen. Right? Uh, we, we're always choosing our own emotions. Now, of course, there are situations where overwhelming things happen and you don't have much control. But the rest of the time, it is possible to choose an emotion other than the one that is just naturally coming up for you. And if emotions naturally come up for you in situations, uh, that, um, that maybe aren't really completely, you know, what you'd want to have happen. It's probably because there is emotional baggage that you have, emotional energy.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  What we find is that the average person has about 300 or so, if you're an adult and you've lived life. The average person has about 300 or so of these emotional energies, these trapped emotions in their body. And, uh, you know, when I was in practice, I was just trying to help my patients get well. But see, I had been a computer programmer, uh, starting in the early 1980s. I had a business way back then called the computer tutor. And I'd go into people's offices that would have a new IBM PC. There was no software in the early days and I would write the software. And that taught me a lot about logic and so on.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  And so when I became a doctor, it gradually began to dawn on me that, um, based on some work that other people had done, that there is really a computer within each one of us. And that computer, uh, knows with a perfect understanding exactly what we need. It remembers everything. It's like an archiving holographic computer that is within each one of us. That, um, remembers every face you've ever seen in a crowd, everything you've ever eaten or tasted or touched or smelled, you know, every, um, every emotional experience you've had. Uh, it knows all about your trapped emotions, it knows everything. So I began to realize that this subconscious mind is really a computer and it's capable of being queried.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  We can ask questions and we can get answers out of it because it's a binary computer, at least in terms of its interface. In other words, um, in other words, if someone holds out their arm, uh, for example, um, if I were to say, my name is Brad, if you were to press down on my arm, I could resist you. I'd be strong because that's a true congruent statement and that's my internal computer agreeing. But if I were to say something like, my name is Bob, which is untrue, then I would weaken and that's the internal computer. And so what I've been able to do is take that basic interface knowledge and develop it to, um, a higher degree, I think, than anybody else has been able to do.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  Because now with this work, we've been able to really open up, uh, this, uh, open up the subconscious mind like a book really. And find out exactly, um, you know, what the problems are. And that's, that's how it worked when I was in practice. And it worked so well that the last 10 years that I was in practice, most of the people that I saw, I've been told there was no help for them at all in Western medicine. And yet they were able to get better.

• 17:18Lewis Howes?

  So do you feel like most pain is caused by trapped emotions? Most pain in the body?

• 17:25Speaker 01

  That's my experience. About 90% of people's physical pain is from emotional baggage. Now, it's not a hundred percent. It really is an amazing thing. And I, that's what I found when I was in practice. Cause of course, as a chiropractor, I had all kinds of people coming in to see me for physical pain, very common. And, uh, what I found, because I had learned how to communicate with their own internal computer. Uh, when I would ask, you know, is there an underlying reason why you're having this pain? The majority of the time it was emotional.

• 17:57Lewis Howes?

  How many years in your practice, did you realize that you can't necessarily heal matter with matter? Like you can't just treat the body by itself without also treating the emotions?

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. Interesting. You know, it was, it was really kind of a gradual process. I was, uh, I kind of have an obsessive nature a little bit, and I was obsessed when I was in practice with helping my patients and getting to the underlying causes. I wanted to know, you know, why, why is this person in pain? Why is this thing, this problem not getting better? What's going on? What is really happening? So that was kind of the, the driving force for me. And as, so as time went on, uh, I was learning everything that I could from every place that I could, from ancient sources, modern sources, you know, going to seminars, learning from other doctors, anything I could learn. And I also had a habit of asking for help from up above.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  And, uh, it was really actually a very powerful answer to prayer that got me into the healing arts in the first place. Yes. And so I had this habit of, um, it was a totally private, totally personal habit. But when a patient would come in to see me before I would go to work on them, I would just offer this silent prayer and ask for help. And I'll tell you something, there were times when a patient would come in and I, I wouldn't know how to take care of them or approach their problem. And in response to that little ask, information would flood in.

• 19:28Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  Just like an avalanche. For ex, you want to hear one of them? Let me tell you one. One day this guy comes in to see me, he's 42 years old. He tells me that four years before, he was in a car accident. He was sitting at a light in his car stopped, and another car hit him at a high rate of speed from behind. And he got whiplash, a lot of damage to his car, everything else. But he said that his neck never stopped hurting.

• 19:55Lewis Howes?

  For four years.

• 19:56Speaker 01

  For four years. And he said he'd seen two doctors during that time. But he said that his neck right then, at that moment, was about a nine on a zero to 10 scale, really hurting. And he said, it still feels like the day after the accident. And I thought, well, that's kind of weird, right? So I said this silent prayer, and I said, okay, Father in heaven, this seems kind of strange to me. If there's something I need to know about this, help me to understand this, because this just kind of seems odd. And this answer flooded in, and the answer was that in the accident, when all of that kinetic energy was released, some of that energy that was going through his body actually got stuck in his neck.

• 20:38Lewis Howes?

  Dropped.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  And that was the answer. So it was actually what we now call a physical trauma energy. So I thought, that was the answer. And I thought, okay, well, there's energy from the accident. That's really weird, but okay. So I swiped a few times with a magnet down his back, down his governing meridian, with an intention to release that energy. And I said, okay, try it now. And so he moves his head like this and looks around, and he said, how did you do that? And I said, well, how does it feel? And he said, well, he said, I'd say it's about a two.

• 21:09Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  And so when's the last time it was a two? And he said, oh, before the accident, right? So this is something that most people have and have no idea, right? Think of all the traumas, think of all the hits you've taken, right? There's trauma, no doubt, stored in your body, and those can be released. I remember I was at, not too, I was, I hesitate to even tell this story because it sounds so fantastic, but I'll tell it anyway. I was at a, I was at this event, this networking event in Vegas. The guy that sat down next to me had the worst limp of anybody I've ever seen in my life. And I started talking to him, and he told me that about three or four years before, he was, he fell asleep at the wheel, and he ran into the back end of a dump truck at 100 miles an hour.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  He got very injured, severed one of his feet, and they were able to reattach his foot and so on. So I started working on him, using what we call the Body Code, asking his subconscious mind what we need to release. And there were multiple physical trauma energies we had to release, and emotions, the emotional energy that he absorbed from his wife when she came to the hospital room and he was, you know, practically dead. He absorbed that emotional energy, cleared that out. And every time I would clear something, his ability to walk without a limp would change. And that guy ran, uh, that guy ran a 5K about two months later.

• 22:32Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 22:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, it sounds unbelievable, and it actually is kind of unbelievable, but it really did happen. So the message here, see, is that all along, we have had within us this, really, this incomprehensibly powerful computer that we've never really known how to talk to. We've never really known how to get information out of it, but it knows everything about us. It knows why you have a symptom. If you're diagnosed with some kind of a disease, believe me, your subconscious mind, that internal computer knows exactly why. And it knows what needs to be done to help you to maximize your life in every possible way.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  The answers are all inside, but we haven't been asking until now.

• 23:23Lewis Howes?

  If someone watching or listening right now is hearing this and saying, okay, this sounds interesting. How can I do this for myself? I don't have access to a practitioner, or, you know, I'm not going to go find someone that can help me with this. How can I start doing this for myself right now to release these emotions that maybe I've been storing for years?

• 23:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:43Lewis Howes?

  So that I can start to feel more free in my body, start to feel more flow in my body, right?

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Absolutely. Well, what we have done, my team has set up a special website, actually, for your listeners, and that's at emotioncodenow.com, and they can go there. And we've got some special videos that are free that they can watch, and they can learn how to do this. They can learn how to release their first trapped emotion. And there's information there about the books. And if they want to, they can book an appointment with a practitioner. We've got lots of them all over the world. And by the way, one of the cool things about this is that it's energy medicine in its purest form. And so it's not bound by distance. So you might find that the person you love working with that helps you the most, maybe they live in Singapore or Berlin or something, you know?

• 24:27Lewis Howes?

  Remote healings.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Remote, yeah, it works remotely. And you know what else is great? It works on animals.

• 24:32Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  And that's, that's one of the really fun

• 24:35Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  proofs of this work. Because animals, you know, they just get better, and and so there's no placebo effect, right, with animals, and it definitely works. In fact, one of my very favorite stories is, my wife and I got a call one day to work on this horse. It had a problem with its hindquarters. It wasn't tracking right, and so they couldn't ride it. And they had a vet come out and look at the horse, and there wasn't anything obviously wrong. So then we got a call, so we get down to work on this horse. So when you work on a horse, back then, what we would do is I would have one person put a hand on the horse, and then hold out their other arm, and then I would talk to the horse. And

• 25:20Speaker 01

  and then the answers coming from the horse's subconscious mind would manifest on that person's arm, strong or weak, right?

• 25:27Lewis Howes?

  That's crazy.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  It is crazy, but I'm telling you, it works. That's how we did it. So I think the horse's name was Ranger. So if you can imagine, I've got somebody touching the horse, holding out their arm, and I'm talking to the horse, is your name Ranger? Yes, all right. Do you have a trapped emotion that is contributing to the problem with your hindquarters? Yes. What's the emotion? Is it in column A? No. Okay, it's in column B? Is it in an odd row? No. So is it in row two? Okay, it's in row two, or whatever. We quickly found the emotion was sorrow, right? We narrowed it down. So then I'm asking these questions like, well, was it sorrow about another horse? No. Was it about a dog? No. A cat? No. A human? No.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  And I'm kind of running out of ideas, right? And suddenly a bird flies overhead. So I thought, well, all right, was it about a bird? Yes, rock solid. And I started laughing, and so did all these other people standing around. This would always gather a little crowd, you know, interesting, of people that were interested to see the crazy doctor come and talk to the horse.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  So we're all laughing, but the horse's owner was there, and she said, you know what? She said, wait a minute. She said, I think I know what this is about. She said that the week before, right in front of this horse's stall, a baby bird fell out of its nest and fell down onto this little, this little paved pathway, and struggled for its life and died and and so I asked the horse, you know, is that what caused this emotion of sorrow? Yes. And so then, you know, just took a magnet and swiped it down the horse's back, right? Three times to release that emotional energy.

• 27:16Speaker 01

  They took the horse immediately out and walked it, and the lameness was completely gone.

• 27:20Lewis Howes?

  That's crazy.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, I've got so many stories like that. We have over 10,000 stories like this.

• 27:25Lewis Howes?

  So walk me through the, the different codes then, because you have emotion, you have body, and belief. Why did one lead to the next instead of the first one being all you needed?

• 27:36Speaker 01

  Right. Well, the Emotion Code book, I left practice in 2004 because I was practicing all week long, 60 hours a week, and then, you know, going and teaching seminars on the weekend, trying to get the word out about this. And I finally realized, okay, it's, it's time for me to just do this, and I've got to write a book. So that was the Emotion Code. Well, the Emotion Code is all about how to get rid of your emotional baggage, how to get rid of it from your animals, how to, you know, how to talk to them and get information, and how to, you know, how to work with people at a distance, and how to release inherited emotions and so on. And

• 28:16Speaker 01

  and so that's the Emotion Code. And the Emotion Code, of course, has been translated now into many, many languages around the world and so on. The next book really was The Body Code. And what happened was, I had taught bits and pieces of this, this whole method that I had learned. When I was in practice, because I was an old computer programmer, I always had a computer there with me. And when I would find something new, I would add it to this big mind map that I was building. And it eventually turned out that there were six different categories of imbalances that cause our sicknesses and so on. And emotions are in one of those categories. And the physical trauma energy we talked about, that's in that same category.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  But then there's also, there are nutritional and lifestyle issues. There are pathogens that get into the body that set up housekeeping. There's toxins and misalignments and disconnections between the spirit and the physical body, and organs and glands, and circuitry, and all kinds of stuff. So I thought, when the Emotion Good book came out, I remember thinking, okay, eventually, doctors, I'll teach doctors all this other information, because it'll be great for them, it'll change their practice like it did mine, they'll be able to get, you know, have great success with everybody. And that was my thought, just kind of a loose idea. Well, about a year later, I woke up one morning, and my mind was full of instruction, and the instruction was,

• 29:42Speaker 01

  you need to take everything you've learned about natural healing and put it into a self-study course that anyone can learn and make it available to everyone, everywhere.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  It was so clear. This was not coming out of my own head. It was from up above. And I remember thinking, well, wait, are you sure about this? This sounds like it could be a lot of work. I don't know. So I sat on that for about three months, then I finally got to work. And that was the, the result of that, after about a year, was what we call the body code, which is this, this really breakthrough revolutionary way to give the subconscious mind rails essentially, to be able to, to, to know how to ask the subconscious mind questions to take you wherever. So it's like a, uh, it's kind of like, um, just a simplified way to get the information from the subconscious. You don't have to be psychic. Anybody can learn how to do this. In fact, uh, in fact, you know, kids can learn how to do it. So that's the body code.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  So then eventually I wrote the body code book and the body code book is really, it's really kind of the handbook for the app. We have this app called the body code, body code system. Well, when we wrote the emotion code book,

• 30:56Speaker 01

  when I wrote it, my wife and I talked about it and we, we realized eventually, one day we were going to need to write another book uh, about, just about the heart wall. Because the heart wall is this other topic that, uh, is arguably the most important part of this work. And it has to do with the heart and you know, the heart really, the ancient peoples believed that the heart was the seed of the soul and the source of love and creativity and romance. They believed that the heart was the core of our being and all these great things. In the West, we've never really given any credence to those ideas. If anything, we've thought, well, you know, those people anciently, they, they just had a lot of poetic license. They didn't have the kind of instruments we have today.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  But guess what? Now we're finding out, oh gee, it looks like they were right. And we've been wrong. We know, for example, now that people can literally dive a broken heart.

• 31:48Lewis Howes?

  Crazy, right?

• 31:49Speaker 01

  Right? Yeah.

• 31:50Lewis Howes?

  Crazy.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  And it happens, unfortunately, probably almost every day. It was the Japanese that actually came up with that. They, they found that women of a certain age, you know, over sixty-five or so, if they were going through some emotional event that was traumatic, they'd go into heart failure and their heart would assume the shape of what looked exactly like what they call a takatsubo or a, a Japanese fisherman's jar that the Japanese fishermen used to catch octopus. A taco is an octopus, right? So it's a takatsubo, uh, octopus jar. And I'm, I've seen the x-rays. It look, it's weird. The heart looks exactly like that. And so the heart's failing, but in those, those are cases where, you know, eventually, I mean, when, when, if you survive it, the doctors will say, well, it wasn't really a

• 32:36Speaker 01

  myocardial infarction, uh, your enzymes are normal, but, uh, we don't know what it was, but if you have something like that, I mean, if you felt like you're having a heart attack, go to the hospital. But people die of this, the, the

• 32:48Lewis Howes?

  It's the emotions though. It's not a heart attack. It's more like the grief for the trapped emotion that they don't release.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 32:55Lewis Howes?

  They don't process.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  I had a case once, in fact, one of the very first cases that I saw, many years ago, this woman came in and she thought she was having a heart attack and she, she'd been a patient of mine. I hadn't seen her for a month or so, but she comes in. She's got crushing chest pain, difficulty breathing, left arm completely numb, left side of her face, totally numb.

• 33:14Lewis Howes?

  It's like a stroke or something.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  Well, our office was right next to a medical center. And so I told my staff, look, you know, we, you know, just stand by, give me one minute with her. And in that one minute, using the, what we now call the emotion code, I was able to find out that she had a trapped emotion of grief that had gotten trapped in her body three years before, when she found out her husband was having an affair.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  And when we landed on that, she burst into tears and she said, I can't believe that's affecting me. I thought I dealt with all that. And when I released that trapped emotion from her, uh, the feeling came back into her arm and into her face within about three seconds. The chest pain melted away. The difficulty breathing was gone. Ten minutes later, Louis, after joking with me and my staff and talking with us, she left the office feeling totally fine. And I remember after she left, sitting down at my desk with my head kind of spinning, thinking, wow, what did I just witness? But see, think about life. I mean, imagine being born into a planet where you can't feel any emotions at all. I mean, imagine

• 34:24Speaker 01

  not being able to feel happiness or joy, but not feeling grief or sadness. Imagine not ever being able to feel excited again. Imagine not ever being able to feel depressed again. Well, the emotions are the color, right? They give all the color to the fabric of our existence. Without emotions, life wouldn't really even be worth living, right? It would just be a flat line. It'd be just a gray scale. And so emotions are so important to our lives, but we're finally beginning to realize that we have emotional baggage, that animals develop emotional baggage. In fact, uh, can I, can I share a story with you really quickly?

• 35:07Speaker 01

  This is from, uh, a woman named Laura from Florida. She said, Octavia, a fifteen-year-old girl who sells organic eggs from her pet chickens, faced a heartbreaking situation when a raccoon killed four of her birds. The survivors were so traumatized that they began coming into the house through the dog door and sleeping in the guest room. She held each of the ten survivors and shared their names with me, and I released different trapped emotions from each bird. This is probably at a distance. The very next day, they returned to the yard as if nothing had happened.

• 35:43Lewis Howes?

  Wow. What do you think is the biggest thing people get wrong about the subconscious mind?

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Well, I think what people get wrong about the subconscious mind usually is that they have, they just don't know. They have no idea how incomprehensibly powerful it is, right?

• 36:00Lewis Howes?

  Is it more powerful than the conscious mind?

• 36:02Speaker 01

  Oh, absolutely.

• 36:04Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:04Lewis Howes?

  Why is that?

• 36:05Speaker 01

  Think of it this way, okay? Uh, all of your life, your subconscious mind has been keeping you alive, creating millions of new cells every minute, for example. They say that every cell in the body is equivalent in complexity to a full-size aircraft carrier with thousands of people on board, working at their individual jobs with jets on the ramp, with their engines spooled up, ready to take off. That's how complex a single cell is. And, you know, there's probably thirty-five or so trillion of those, or maybe more, you know, in our bodies. Your subconscious mind knows what's going on with every single cell, down to the quantum level, right?

• 36:45Speaker 01

  I mean, if you needed to, you could ask your subconscious mind about one single individual cell and it could answer any question that you wanted to about that cell. It's mind blowing, right? There are trillions of chemical reactions going on every, every moment in your life. Your subconscious mind, right, is supervising all of those. I think that the subconscious mind is the most powerful computer that exists in the known universe and we, you know, we're just, we just don't even think about it. We take it for granted, you know, it runs our lives. It keeps air moving in and out of our lungs, keeps our hearts beating and all of that. And it also is remembering everything.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  And, you know, so I think that that's what people miss is that it's, well, it's divine. I believe in nature. I believe that we're children of God, that he created these spirits for us and, and that we literally, in a very, very literal way, are brothers and sisters, right? Uh, in, in the most literal way possible. We, we have the same father. We come from the same family, right? We're all come, we're all from the family of God. We might look different, but you know, we're really all the same.

• 37:57Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. My friend, I hope you're enjoying this episode. And the School of Greatness drops new conversations every Monday, Wednesday and Friday around money, mindset, healing, manifestation and relationships. And if you're not yet following the show, then you're missing all of them. Please tap the follow button right now and you'll get notified the moment every new episode drops because the next one might be exactly what you need. Now let's get back to the conversation. Why do you think the conscious mind is so bad at knowing what the subconscious already knows?

• 38:31Speaker 01

  I asked a question once, you know, because what I used to do, I had heard that, um, that the conscious mind is, um, you know, is maybe, maybe ten percent of our intelligence, right? And, uh, and so I, I had taught that for a long time. And then I thought, you know, maybe, I don't think it's ten percent. It's, it can't be quite that much. So, so one day I actually muscle tested this on somebody and I've done this on several people. And What I get when I muscle test this and ask the subconscious mind, I get that the conscious mind is point zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, one percent of our intelligence.

• 39:14Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 39:14Speaker 01

  Yes. Isn't that interesting? And you know, when people die and they go to the other side, I mean, imagine if you could move the decimal point just one place, be incredible. But people die and they go to the other side and they come back and sometimes they talk about how their mind expands in this incredible way and they can ask as many questions as they want at the same time and all the answers flow in spontaneously and are all understood perfectly.

• 39:38Lewis Howes?

  When they die and come back.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  When they die, when they're on the other side.

• 39:41Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:42Speaker 01

  So I think that in this life, yeah, I think we're, I think our ability to access our subconscious mind is dialed back to a great degree. And I think that there are reasons for that. I think that we're here to learn.

• 39:53Lewis Howes?

  Too powerful or what?

• 39:54Speaker 01

  Well, I think that, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think that we're here to learn to live by faith and we're here in this environment where we, we have everything that we need, right? And ultimately, when you get to the end of your life, you find out that your life is the end result of all the choices that you made and hopefully you chose wisely, right? And, but when you die, if you, if you watch these near death experiences, you know, people talk about how there's never really any judgment, even if they see their whole life and they often report how they get, they get to experience the things that they did or said through the eyes and through the feelings of other people.

• 40:33Lewis Howes?

  And the ripple effect, right?

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, they get to experience it from all sides, which is really amazing, but it's never about judgment. It's always just about learning, right? And so, so yeah, I think that this is a very important part of our learning. We're here and I think the most important thing we can do is to learn how to, how to love, right?

• 40:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  And what's interesting is when people get rid of that emotional baggage and especially when that heart wall, you know, that wall that gets built up, when that gets taken down, people often fall in love who never thought they would.

• 41:07Lewis Howes?

  What do people's life look like when they're living with a heart wall without actually knowing it?

• 41:13Speaker 01

  Well, you know, about 93% of people have a heart wall and don't know it. And so it's, it's the majority of people. It's how most people are living.

• 41:20Lewis Howes?

  And what does a heart wall actually mean?

• 41:22Speaker 01

  The heart is everything the ancients believed it to be. And, and we're finally beginning to realize all of that now. Well, when you feel like your heart's going to break at some point and you feel that physical sensation, which most people have felt and can remember at some point, maybe more than once, all right, for some people it's multiple times. The subconscious mind will build a wall to try to protect the heart because the heart really is the core of our being.

• 41:47Lewis Howes?

  Keeps us alive.

• 41:48Speaker 01

  Keeps us alive and, and it also, you know, there's a little brain in the heart, 40,000 neurites. And they've known about this for many years, but it wasn't until the early nineties that they actually looked at the communications between the brain up here and the brain in the heart. And what they found really was weird because they found that the vast majority of the communications were going from the heart brain to the brain in the head.

• 42:13Lewis Howes?

  First from the heart to the brain.

• 42:14Speaker 01

  Exactly. Indicating that gee, maybe, maybe the brain that is in our heads is obeying the messages sent by the brain in the heart.

• 42:23Lewis Howes?

  From the merchants, from the, the heart center.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 42:26Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  They've also found interesting things about this, this little brain in the heart, that it actually has the ability of precognition. In other words, they've done tests and they found that there are times when a split second before something actually happens in reality, this heart brain will register it. Isn't that interesting? Yeah.

• 42:47Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 42:48Speaker 01

  So I think that information that comes into us, inspiration from above comes in to the heart brain, right? And you know, it's so interesting because when, when people have heart transplants, they sometimes inherit the memories of the donor. Sometimes, you know, the, the affinities of the donor. I mean, you get a heart transplant, suddenly you love baseball, you talk to the heart donor family and they'll say, well, yeah, our son was a baseball player. His heart's beating in your chest now.

• 43:14Lewis Howes?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 43:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, amazing things. One of the most incredible ones was this nine-year-old girl who got a heart transplant from another young girl who had been murdered. And when she recovered, she started having these nightmares, nightmares that she was being killed. And the nightmares were so consistent that her parents took her to the police and they were able to make composite drawings from her descriptions.

• 43:42Lewis Howes?

  No way.

• 43:43Speaker 01

  No, I'm serious. From her descriptions that the murderer and the murder weapon, they led to the arrest and conviction of the actual murderer.

• 43:50Lewis Howes?

  That is crazy.

• 43:51Speaker 01

  And the moral of that story is if you're going to get a heart transplant, don't get one from somebody that was murdered.

• 43:56Lewis Howes?

  Right, exactly. Wow.

• 43:57Speaker 01

  That's what I'd say.

• 43:58Lewis Howes?

  Wow. You know, it's interesting because I always felt like I was a very loving kid, loving teen, loving adult, like just loving in general, but I had a lot of anger as well. Like when someone, when something would happen, I would feel an instant like reaction if it felt like it was unjust or if I felt like it was an abuse or an abandonment or some type of feeling, right? And even if it wasn't happening, if I interpreted it as happening, I would feel that, I would feel that friction or frustration or blockage. And it wasn't all the time necessarily, but it'd kind of come and go and, and then I'd have some breakthroughs and I'd have some healing and then it'd get a little better, but then it was still kind of there, right?

• 44:42Lewis Howes?

  Until five years ago, I was doing some pretty deep therapy healing work. And at one point, something that my therapist said to me after, and I was doing six to seven hour sessions at a time. So I was like, it wasn't just, let's talk for an hour and like come back in a few weeks. It was like every weekend, six to seven hours at a session. Let's figure out what's really going on. Intense. And it was a lot of exercises, role playing, you know, emotional things, all these different things to kind of see what's coming up. And at one point, kind of all the work and all the reflection and all the experiences and lessons finally landed, finally connected to my heart.

• 45:28Lewis Howes?

  Where there was something that she said, it finally was like, oh, okay. Like my body finally got it. And there was a pain in my chest that I was having for a number of years that would come and go. And I was feeling it at that moment. It was like kind of a heaviness, a weight or a clenchedness in my heart. And all of a sudden, like it finally resonated to where it was like, almost like a pop sensation where I thought I hurt myself. And I'm sitting here on a, in a chair, right? And I'm not doing anything physically active. And I thought like I hurt myself because that's like, my brain, my heart, my whole body had a realization, an awareness that I am safe and I'm going to be safe.

• 46:12Lewis Howes?

  And this pain popped and it was almost like plasma or like a sensation of like rushing through my body from every angle, from my heart, all through my body, my head, my fingers, my toes, rushing. And I remember just being like, oh shoot, what's going on? I was like really nervous because like, I wasn't going to be able to control anything. And I felt this rush throughout my whole body. And all I was doing was sitting there.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:38Lewis Howes?

  And I remember saying like, after a couple of minutes, I go, something's happening right now. Give me a moment. And after a couple of moments, I go, man, I have zero pain in my chest anymore. And I'd felt pain for years.

• 46:50Lewis Howes?

  And I don't know, I don't know if that was an extreme heart wall that I was, you know, living with for many years that finally kind of had a release or some type of sensation energetically that then rushed to my body. I don't know physically how to calculate what happened physically in the body, but is it something that you might be able to explain what chemically happened or physically happened with that pain release from the heart and rush throughout the body?

• 47:15Speaker 01

  Well, I've seen this kind of thing many times with people. I mean, not exactly as you described, but I've seen lots and lots of people with heaviness in the chest that they have for years and decades. And one of the beautiful things about the emotion code, for example, is that it's very, very fast. It took you a lot of work and a lot of hours and many sessions where, where usually, you know, we're able to get results like that with people, often in a single session or a few sessions.

• 47:46Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Does someone ever have that type of sensation where they say like something exploded in their heart?

• 47:53Speaker 01

  I've heard that kind of thing before.

• 47:54Lewis Howes?

  Rush throughout their body.

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:56Lewis Howes?

  I wonder what that was?

• 47:57Speaker 01

  It was probably some emotional baggage that your subconscious mind was holding on to that finally through all that processing, you were able to release. And, and then suddenly you had blood flow.

• 48:10Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 48:11Speaker 01

  Yes, that's probably what it was. I've seen that kind of thing before where when we have trapped emotions, they will definitely interfere sometimes with blood flow. And when you release, all of a sudden people can feel blood flowing. It's really interesting. I mean, yeah, it's a quantum phenomenon really, but then there's also of course, all these physical effects.

• 48:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 48:30Speaker 01

  But I'm glad you had that experience.

• 48:31Lewis Howes?

  I mean, too, because I, I've had that heart pain in five plus years.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:35Lewis Howes?

  And you say that people, once they've kind of let go of this heart wall, they tend to find love pretty quickly or they bring more love into their life.

• 48:44Speaker 01

  They often do. Let me share a story with you. One of my very favorite stories is one of the very first people that, that I worked on after we had this experience where we learned about this heart wall. And that was an interesting experience, but the, the one of the very first people I worked on was this woman who came in to see me. She had neck pain. Her neck pain was about a nine on a zero to 10 scale. And as I was talking with her, she told me that she was a nurse. She was 38 years old and she was single. She had not dated in eight years and she was never going to date again. She was sworn to, you know, being single the rest of her life. And she was an attractive, you know, person. And I said, oh, you know, why do you, how'd you arrive at that? You

• 49:26Speaker 01

  know, how'd you make that decision? And she said that eight years before, she was really deeply in love with a guy that dumped her and broke her heart. And that was it. No more dating.

• 49:35Lewis Howes?

  I'm not going to open myself up. I'm not going to be vulnerable anymore.

• 49:38Speaker 01

  Never again. And she's got this neck pain and that's what brought her into the office, right? So I said, okay. So I started checking her and I find she has a heart wall, right? There are three layers, three emotions making up this wall. Now you can't see this wall. It's invisible, but these three layers all had to do with the breakup from eight years before. So just took a few minutes, you know, cleared one, two, clear the last one. When I cleared the last one, suddenly the neck pain went from nine to zero.

• 50:03Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  I mean, just instantly, right? And she was so thrilled because that's why she'd come in.

• 50:08Lewis Howes?

  The neck pain.

• 50:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, the neck pain. So her neck pain's gone. Her heart wall is also gone. So, so she leaves the office feeling fine, doesn't come back. Three months later. I always remember this, I saw her in my hallway in my office and I said, hey, I said, how are you doing? What's going on? She said, you know, she said, my neck has been fine since I was here, but she said, you cleared that heart wall for me and that really works. She said, about two weeks after I was here, I ran into my childhood sweetheart and found out he's been living right around the corner from me for almost eight years and we're dating and we're in love and I think he's gonna ask me to marry him, right? And I just thought, wow, what a switch, right? Now, think

• 50:53Speaker 01

  about that. Why had she never, he lived right around the corner for eight years. Why'd she never run into him?

• 50:57Lewis Howes?

  She blocked it.

• 50:58Speaker 01

  She blocked it. She had this wall up and so it didn't happen until that wall was gone. Let me tell you one other story. One of my favorite other stories about this. This woman brought her son in. He was nine years old and she said that what had happened was, first thing that happened was she found that he wouldn't hand in his homework. If he, if he did it, he wouldn't hand it in, or he wouldn't do it. And she'd go into his room sometimes at night and he'd be on the floor and she'd say, what are you doing on the floor? And he'd say, I don't deserve to be in a bed. And she thought, that's weird. And so finally she paid a surprise visit to his classroom one day, only to find his teacher berating him for being pathetic. And so she took him out of school and tried to do

• 51:41Speaker 01

  homeschool. That didn't work. She took him to see a psychiatrist and a psychologist and she was told that he was clinically depressed at nine years old, but they couldn't be helped because he wouldn't admit that he was depressed. He had this grin kind of pasted on all the time because he knew he was supposed to be happy. He should be happy, but he was so depressed. And so he kind of had this fake sort of smile pasted on. He's nine years old. He's trying to deal with it, right? So my wife and I worked on him. We found he had a heart wall and there were several layers, several emotions making up this wall. And they all had to do with tragic things that had happened in the extended family and a couple cousins died in a car wreck and so on. And so these layers,

• 52:26Speaker 01

  we cleared those layers. It took us about a half hour total. We got to the very last emotion, the one that had actually formed this heart wall. Here's what had happened. He was five years old at the time. His big sister was babysitting him at this family reunion at a lake in California. And they were out on this dock and there was no adult supervision around. It was the two of them, but also they were joined by this other little boy that she was watching, little five-year-old cousin, his best friend. And she decided it would be a great idea to try to teach this little cousin how to swim. And his body disappeared under the dock. And about an hour later, the divers pulled

• 53:09Speaker 01

  his body out from under the dock and of course, he's long dead. And his body's blue. And the crushing weight of guilt that his sister is feeling for having such a horrific thing happen on her watch as the babysitter, that emotional energy, that emotion of guilt became absorbed into his body and immediately formed into a wall of energy around his heart to protect his heart because his heart was breaking, right? For her, but also for his best little friend that now was dead. And so that was the last emotion that we cleared. And then the muscle testing showed the heart wall was gone. So she takes him home. So in the next couple of days, he's just kind of

• 53:54Speaker 01

  lying around lethargic and she was thinking, well, it doesn't look like that really worked either. But on the morning of the third day after we worked on him, he got himself up early, got himself ready to go to school and got his lunchbox and his backpack. He comes downstairs and he says, Mom, I can go back to school now. I'm a happy pappy. And that's a direct quote. And so he did go back to school and he went into the program for advanced kids because he was doing so well and all his learning disabilities were gone. And that kid, I think now is 37. And I think he's, you know, I don't know how many kids of his own he's got, but his mother told us after that, she said, she said, if I had not been open to something so different, she said, my son would not have

• 54:35Speaker 01

  survived, you know, because he was so depressed at age nine. Think of that. So the heart wall, we have found is the single most powerful thing that there is for depression. You see, the thing is, I believe that the best ideas that you'll ever have won't really come from this brain in your head. They'll come from your heart brain, really. You know, and so when people tell you, when you graduate from high school, you know, or college and they say, follow your heart, right? That's great advice, but what if you have a heart wall? And nine out of 10 people do.

• 55:08Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, it's hard to follow it then.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  It makes it much more difficult.

• 55:10Lewis Howes?

  It's confusing because then you start following your analytical mind. Well, I shouldn't be doing this. This is like the thing that's the right thing to do or as opposed to really following what your heart dreams of doing.

• 55:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I really believe, Lewis, that there's a perfect blueprint that lies within the heart of every single person, of the perfect life that they can have and that they can live. But if your heart is surrounded with all these layers of negative emotion, it just makes it so much harder.

• 55:35Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:39Lewis Howes?

  Can you unblock these trapped emotions yourself? Or do you need someone else to help you unblock them?

• 55:46Speaker 01

  You absolutely can. You absolutely can. And lots of people have changed their lives. And so for your listeners, emotioncodenow.com would be the place to go where they can actually, we've got videos and a little program where they can learn how to do this, how to release their first trapped emotion, walk them through it. Yes.

• 56:05Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. And all the information's in the books too. We don't hold anything back. You can learn the whole process in the emotion code book. The heart code book is all about the heart wall specifically, you know, it's all in there because people need it. They, the world needs this.

• 56:19Lewis Howes?

  Do you feel like if someone were to release the emotional baggage trapped around their hearts, they would be able to manifest more of what they want?

• 56:27Speaker 01

  Well, absolutely. I mean, people can have other emotional baggage, you know, in their body besides that that's wrapped around their heart. But typically, when I was in practice, what I used to do is if somebody had some kind of a fire burning, for example, of, you know, if they really had neck pain or whatever, I'd take care of that. And then I'd go right to the heart wall. But, but yeah, it, it happens all the time. This was a woman named Joy in London in the UK. She said, the husband of my friend came to me for a session. He didn't want to tell his wife about the heart wall we cleared. So I waited to see if my friend noticed any changes. She called me the next day saying, I don't know what you did, but he has been so loving. She

• 57:12Speaker 01

  said that she had never felt more loved in her marriage. All the wrinkles on his brow had eased away and he was smiling more. She even mentioned a couple of months later that he could thank me for saving their marriage.

• 57:21Lewis Howes?

  Wow. That's cool. Well, this is a quote from your, your book, The Emotion Code. You say, those whose hearts are open will be the anchors for that divine energy that will transform and heal the world.

• 57:34Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 57:35Lewis Howes?

  When we lack the ability to have an open heart, it sounds like we lack the ability to access the divine to transform and heal the world. But when we allow ourselves to have an open heart, which I guess is challenging if you have been hurt emotionally in the past, or been let down, or been lied to, or abandoned, or used, or abused, or taken advantage of.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  And so many of us have been in one way or another, right?

• 58:01Lewis Howes?

  Everyone has been at some point. One of those emotions has happened. And usually what happens is we then create a film over our heart, some type of callus, right? That says, okay, I don't want that to happen again. Therefore, I'm going to block that from happening. I'm not going to be as excited. I'm not going to be as emotionally available. I'm not going to be as loving towards people. I want to be more questioning. I'm going to be more guarded. I'm going to be more closed off, right? Because I was this and I got hurt, right? I was in a marriage and he cheated on me, or she cheated on me, or whatever it is. And therefore, I'm never, I'm always going to be single the rest of my life. It's like a callus, right?

• 58:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 58:41Lewis Howes?

  And it's hard to access the divine with a calloused heart. It's hard to access abundance with a calloused heart. And it's hard to transform your life and heal others with a calloused heart. So I love that quote from your book, those whose hearts are open will be the anchors for that divine energy that will transform and heal the world. So what does that actually look like day to day for someone to become one of those anchors?

• 59:12Speaker 01

  Since better than 90% of people, we think about 93% of people actually have a heart wall. The most important thing, I think, first to recognize is, is that you probably have this phenomenon going on. And

• 59:28Speaker 01

  You know, it's interesting because not only does it affect you with your relationships and with your ability to create money in abundance and so on, it also has a huge amount to do with your health.

• 59:40Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 59:41Speaker 01

  When I was in practice, the last 10 years that I was in practice, most of the people that I saw had been told there was really no hope for them in Western medicine at all. And yet, the vast majority of them, with just a couple of exceptions, were able to get well. Why? Well, because I was asking questions other people weren't asking. And also because I knew about this heart wall phenomenon. And sometimes, well, every one of these patients would get a typical Western medicine exam, but they would also get another exam where I would check the balance of all the organs energetically, all the glands, all the chakras, all the meridians. And it wasn't unusual for these people who were so sick to find that all the organs and all the glands were out of balance, and many of the chakras and meridians, and I would write all that down.

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  And then sometimes with these people, I would just do one thing. I would just remove that emotional energy that had wrapped up and built around their heart. And then I would redo that exam, Lewis. And inevitably, every time I did that, I would find that 80% of all those organs and glands were humming away again, you know, balanced perfectly, and the meridians and chakras too. And I found that it was the single most powerful thing that I could do for a person to help them to get well. We're living in the age of the heart now, and we finally have this knowledge, this heart wall is a real thing. I never in my wildest dreams would have imagined this goes on, that the subconscious mind builds a wall. And the funny thing about it too is that it will always

• 1:01:09Speaker 01

  have some symbolic material that it's quote unquote "made out of." And so it's often building materials like, you know, like concrete or, you know.

• 1:01:19Lewis Howes?

  Why is that? It's not made of any material, it's just an energetic field.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  It's just, well, yeah, but I think to the subconscious mind, I think that it understands that you can't have a wall made out of nothing. And so it'll choose something, and it's interesting.

• 1:01:35Lewis Howes?

  It'll interpret it as something, yeah.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a symbolic sort of a thing. And we talk about it in the Heart Code. It's just an incidental sort of thing, but it's interesting because some people will have a heart wall that's made of one-way mirror, so they can see out, but nobody can see in, you know? I mean, we've seen all kinds of crazy things.

• 1:01:53Lewis Howes?

  Now, I want to ask you about beliefs really quick, because you talk about these different codes, emotion codes, body codes, and belief codes. If you were only able to give one prescription for someone listening or watching right now, from all the experience you have, from being a doctor to doing the energy healing work that you do now, and you could only prescribe people with one belief, what would you prescribe people to believe most?

• 1:02:18Speaker 01

  I think probably the most powerful belief that a person can have is a belief in the higher power, but that that that higher power loves them without limit. You know, to believe that, to believe that God or the Creator, Source Energy, or however you refer to it, has perfect love for you that fills the immensity of space itself. I think that's the most powerful belief you could have. Because then I think you would feel that you could do anything because you've got the backing of the supreme Creator of the universe, right?

• 1:03:01Lewis Howes?

  If people watching or listening don't have a belief in God, and they don't have a belief that God truly loves them and wants them to be unlimited in their abilities, what would you say to them? And what do you think is holding them back if they aren't at least curious to believe that?

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  You know, we all come into this world, and I I had an experience one day. I was 18 years old. And I was just sitting, meditating very quietly, and all of a sudden, I had this experience that I'll try to describe. First, I believe that before we come into this world, we live with God in this place of indescribable beauty and high vibration and unconditional love and everything, right? And then we come into this world for these specific reasons, right? To learn and to make choices and, you know, learn from our choices, et cetera. But when we come into this world, there is a shield put over us, or you might call it a veil. It's like the veil of memory.

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  I talk about it a little bit, and I talk about this experience actually in the Emotion Code book, where our memories of where we were before are blocked off to us. We can't access them anymore, right? All we know is, here we are, right? And this is all we know and all we've ever known. But we've been alive, I believe, forever before we come here. And so I'm sitting one day, 18 years old, just quietly meditating, and all of a sudden, it's like this window opens somehow. And suddenly, every particle of my being is filled with the most overwhelmingly powerful feeling of homesickness that I can't describe, completely off the chart,

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  to be back where I was before I came here, right? To be back where we all were. And this lasted for about three seconds. It was like this window opened, and then it closed, and it just left me reeling. And I realized from that experience a couple of things. I realized that we really, truly are strangers here, just passing through, because we come from somewhere that is, William Wordsworth said it, he said, "Trailing clouds of glory do we come into this world from God, who is our home." And I realized that, that we're strangers here, but I also realized that it's a good thing that we have that block on our memories. Because if we didn't have that, I realized we would not be able to tolerate it

• 1:05:32Speaker 01

  here in this world for five minutes.

• 1:05:34Lewis Howes?

  We'd want to go back or go beyond, whatever.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, you know, I've had some very interesting experiences, and I some very powerful spiritual experiences. And I know that God lives, that He loves us beyond our ability to understand. I had an experience at Disneyland once that I talk about in the Body Code book, where one day, I took some of our kids to Disneyland. And I didn't really want to go that bad, but I took them, you know, trying to be a good dad, right? And so I got them in line for a ride, and then I'm kind of walking around and just kind of in this pensive sort of state, not having really anything specific to do. And I'm noticing people. And, you know, you've been to Disneyland, there's all kinds of people from all over the world, and all shapes and sizes and colors and everything else.

• 1:06:21Speaker 01

  And I remember thinking to myself, you know, I'm sure these are all really nice people, but they don't really mean anything to me. I don't love these people. And I thought, I wonder what it's like for God, our Father in Heaven. I wonder what it's like for Him. Because, you know, it says that He loves everybody, right? And that we're all His children, He must love all of us. What would that be like? And so I said this prayer, and I said, you know, "Help me to understand what that's like for you, you know, God." And I didn't get an answer, and I kind of just mentally shrugged my shoulders and went home, right? So when I got home, our two younger boys were absolutely just in shock, and they couldn't believe I didn't take them to Disneyland, right? And they were a little younger, you know, like eight and six. And I should have taken them, but I don't know what happened.

• 1:07:05Speaker 01

  But anyway, they badgered me relentlessly, and I finally said, "All right, fine." And if you've ever been harassed and brutalized by kids, that's how that went. So the next Saturday, I find myself back at Disneyland again. And I get them in line for a ride, and I go for a walk. And I find myself kind of falling into the same thoughts from the week before. And I'm on this bridge at California Adventure, walking over this bridge. And I'm noticing these people, and I have this thought. And the thought was, I wonder what it's like for our Father in Heaven, who loves everybody. And all of a sudden, the prayer from the week before was answered.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  And I'll try to describe this, because it's kind of indescribable. But all of a sudden, I was filled with this unconditional perfect love for all these people on this bridge. And I looked at my ride, and there was a ride over there with probably 200 people in line for this ride. And I have this unconditional love, this perfect love for all these people in this line. And this was so far outside of my realm of experience, right? And so far outside of my box that I suddenly felt panic, and instantly it was gone, just instantly shut off. I had that experience. I know that we have no idea how much we're loved. And that's the truth of our existence.

• 1:08:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:34Speaker 01

  Is that we are so loved.

• 1:08:36Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful. I've got a couple of final questions for you, Brad.

• 1:08:39Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:08:40Lewis Howes?

  This has been powerful. And I want people to check out all of your work. You have the emotion code, the heart code, the body code. And if people go to discover healing.com slash greatness, they can learn more about the emotion code. And I think there's another link you said something.

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  Emotion code now?

• 1:08:55Lewis Howes?

  Emotion code now to dot com as well. You can go through a quiz or a test that you can learn more.

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, we got lots of information there about the books. You can book a session with somebody. Um, we've got the little course there that you can take where you can learn how to release. We'll walk you through releasing your first trapped emotion.

• 1:09:10Lewis Howes?

  That's cool. That's cool. So everyone go there and check that out if you feel like you need to release something, which most of us do.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think so.

• 1:09:19Lewis Howes?

  This is a question called the three truths, and I ask everyone towards the end. So imagine hypothetically, you get to live as long as you want in this world, but it's your last day.

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:27Lewis Howes?

  And you continue to create and serve and heal people and add value in the ways you want to. But for whatever reason, on the last day, you have to take all of your work with you. This conversation, all of your books, everything you've ever put out there goes to the next place.

• 1:09:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:43Lewis Howes?

  But on the last day, you get to leave behind three lessons to the world. And that's all we would have of your content left. Once you leave. What would those three truths be for you?

• 1:09:54Speaker 01

  That God is real, that he lives, that he loves us all beyond our ability to understand. And that the most important thing that you can do in this life is to learn how to love other people unconditionally.

• 1:10:10Lewis Howes?

  Yes, that's hard. Hard for a lot of people.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is. Well, it's not meant to be easy, I don't think.

• 1:10:17Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:17Speaker 01

  But you know what's interesting is that as people release their emotional baggage, they become more capable of that love. In fact, we've had multiple people over many years tell us that when that heart wall is taken down, they can feel the love of the, of the creator for them.

• 1:10:34Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful. I want to acknowledge you, Brad, for the journey you've been on because it's been 22 years since you left your practice to explore how to bring more healing to more people. And I acknowledge you for going on that journey because probably 22 years ago, it wasn't popular to leave something that you had committed to your whole life, essentially.

• 1:10:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:59Lewis Howes?

  To being known as one thing in chiropractic and then going into this field of energy healing. So I want to acknowledge you for the journey that you've been on and the journey you'll continue to help people release trapped emotions and feel more free and feel more loved because that's what we all need more of. So.

• 1:11:16Speaker 01

  Thank you, Lewis.

• 1:11:17Lewis Howes?

  I want to acknowledge you for that. Yeah.

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  That's really kind of you.

• 1:11:19Lewis Howes?

  Of course. And I want people to get your, your books, the motion code, the heart code, the body code, or whichever one speaks to you. Uh, and if you feel you're having some type of trapped emotion, make sure to check this out because it can really help you release those emotions. So you can create more freedom in your life. And I believe when we have more freedom, we can reach our fullest potential and hopefully just be kinder to the people around us. And I think that's a big goal for a lot of people. So my final question for you, Brad, is what's your definition of greatness?

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  I heard one time the definition of, uh, of spirituality is consciousness of victory over self and communion with the infinite.

• 1:12:02Lewis Howes?

  Hmm, that's powerful.

• 1:12:03Speaker 01

  And I've always loved that, you know, because everybody has this perfect blueprint within them and because it's different for everyone. But yet we all form this perfect mosaic. I mean, imagine if everybody in the world could have an open heart and could be manifesting into the world, the perfect blueprint that's within them. Imagine what a world it could be. And I believe that's the world that's coming. And so to me, I think that greatness is, is simply because it's different for everyone. I think greatness is really just creating and manifesting that perfect blueprint that lies within your heart.

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  What is it for you? It's different than mine and it's different from the next person, different for everybody.

• 1:12:50Lewis Howes?

  Love.

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  But if you can manifest that perfect blueprint that lies inside of you, you've achieved your own greatness. That's what I think.

• 1:12:57Lewis Howes?

  Brad, thank you so much for being here. Appreciate it. Powerful.

• 1:13:00Speaker 01

  Thank you, Lewis.

• 1:13:01Lewis Howes?

  Appreciate it.

• 1:13:01Speaker 01

  It's been fun.

• 1:13:02Lewis Howes?

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• 1:13:42Lewis Howes?

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