Billy Carson: How to Manifest Anything with This Ancient Formula

Billy Carson takes us deep into the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern science, revealing how manifestation actually works at the cellular level. From his near-death experience in Turkey to building multiple million-dollar companies, Carson shares the precise formula he's used to transform his life: conscious thought × action = manifestation. He explains how trauma stored in your body blocks abundance, why forgiveness is the first step to clearing energetic space, and how NASA-level science proves we're living in a fractal holographic universe where your words and emotions literally reshape reality. This isn't metaphysical theory—it's quantum physics meeting ancient Sumerian tablets, with practical steps you can implement today. Forbidden Knowledge TVWoke Doesn't Mean BrokeFractal Holographic Universe: The Matrix Code Revealed4biddenknowledge Conscious AwardsIn this episode you will:Discover the scientific formula for manifestation that ancient civilizations knew and modern quantum physics confirms—complete with the exact affirmations that rewrite your DNA in 21 days. Break free from ancestral trauma encoded in your epigenetics by understanding how negative patterns pass through generations and the meditation practice that stops the cycle. Transform your relationship with money by getting on its frequency instead of chasing it—the same strategy Carson used to go from homeless on a Miami beach to building multimillion-dollar tech companies. Unlock the power of forgiveness to clear trauma stored in your cells that's blocking your manifestation abilities and keeping you stuck in survival mode. Master the energy exchange that determines your success in every room you enter, from business meetings to intimate relationships, by shifting your emotional frequency in under 60 seconds. For more information go to https://lewishowes.com/1835For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Lewis Howes (Solo) – greatness.lnk.to/1822SCPrice Pritchett – greatness.lnk.to/1821SCDr. Joe Dispenza – greatness.lnk.to/1809SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest, the inspiring Billy Carson is in the house. Good to see you, man.

• 0:06Billy Carson?

  Hey, man. It's an honor to be here. I mean, truly an honor. I've been looking forward to this moment, one day that we would finally get a chance to meet and talk. So it's an honor.

• 0:14Lewis Howes?

  My man, I'm excited. I've been seeing your, your content just kind of blow up online. So I want to make an easy three-part question to start with.

• 0:21Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 0:22Lewis Howes?

  The first one is, what is the universe and are we living in a matrix?

• 0:26Billy Carson?

  Okay.

• 0:27Lewis Howes?

  What dimension are we in right now and how many dimensions are there?

• 0:31Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 0:32Lewis Howes?

  And what is our purpose as human beings?

• 0:35Billy Carson?

  Beautiful, man. Beautiful. We're on the same frequency. I could tell already. So the universe itself, in my personal opinion, based on my research, is a fractal holographic matrix made of light. Light that we can't particularly detect all of it, like for example, dark energy, dark matter. What's creating this expansion of the universe? But the universe as a whole, even the things or the items that appear to be solid within the universe, in my opinion, are all made of light. And we learned this through the table is made of light. This table, for example, is a light frequency that slowed down. And so we give the illusion, or we get the illusion that it's solid, but it's just a frequency wave that had been slowed down

• 1:17Billy Carson?

  that's been collapsed into the illusion of solidity that we're calling a table. And we don't touch the table. We only have electromagnetic repulsion from this table. So the electrons orbiting the atoms within this table are repelling the electrons orbiting the atoms in my fingers. So you never really touch the table. You get a repulsion effect. And everything in the universe is pretty much set up that way. And what's incredible about the universe is human beings only can see less than 1% of the light spectrum. So we have this grand spectrum that we believe that we're taking in, but we're seeing a sliver of reality. We can't see ultraviolet, you know, multi-spectrum, infrared, you know, gamma rays,

• 1:57Billy Carson?

  all these incredible frequencies, microwaves. This, this microwave is floating all around us right now. We can't detect them. We'd be too distracted. But so the universe is very intelligent. It understands what can we process? How much can we? Process to navigate through this realm. Uh, but those other waves are there. And these waves are what waves of light? So we know that through the double slit experiment in quantum physics. That was done that particles decide electrons that were shot through the little slit in the double slit experiment. Decide to be waves of potential. Or collapse themselves into digital bits of matter or information. And because of this, we understand that the entire universe is a wave of potentials.

• 2:40Billy Carson?

  Uh, so waves of light moving out until a conscious observer collapses them into the illusion of reality.

• 2:48Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 2:48Billy Carson?

  And so that's what we're living in a fractal holographic light matrix.

• 2:51Lewis Howes?

  That's the universe.

• 2:52Billy Carson?

  That's the universe. Right.

• 2:54Lewis Howes?

  How many dimensions are in this universe?

• 2:56Billy Carson?

  So the dimension, so quantum physicists and theoretical physicists like Michio Kaku have been noted stating that there's are at least 11 dimensions to create this entire realm, this universe. And that this universe is dimensions stacked right on top of each other. So at a 90 degree, 90 degree angle, right above the third dimension is a fourth and a 90 degree angle is a fifth. They're compactified and yes, for anyone listening, that's a real word compactified. Uh, and right on top of each other, they're less than even a block length away from each other. And the only thing separating these dimensions is a frequency. So imagine a being in a higher dimension, right? Being able to uh, obtain the a subatomic frequency of the third dimension.

• 3:38Billy Carson?

  That being may be able to uh, technologically maybe shift its frequency to match this dimension and walk right in. It'd be aberrations, paranormal activity, uh, aliens, who knows, right? Uh, we ourselves are trapped within this realm. We don't have the capability of of changing our subatomic frequency to match higher dimensionals, higher dimensions. We just haven't developed that technology or maybe we, we don't know it exists, but.

• 4:01Lewis Howes?

  We haven't figured out how to do it yet.

• 4:03Billy Carson?

  Right. The general public may not know how to do it.

• 4:05Lewis Howes?

  Is this kind of like, if you could give an example for someone, they might be listening or watching right now thinking, uh, I'm already lost. Is this kind of like, um, in Interstellar? When McConaughey's character like goes through the black hole and there's like kind of different stats, dimensions of time and space.

• 4:20Billy Carson?

  Correct. He goes, he gets to the black hole. He hits the event horizon. Now he's in time violation, right? His spaceship falls apart. He falls into something called a tesseract, which is a fourth dimensional hypercube. Or in ancient times known as Metatron's cube. Meta. Sounds familiar?

• 4:38Billy Carson?

  In that fourth dimensional hypercube, he's in a higher dimension than the third. So from any dimension higher than the third, you can see the past, present, and future all at once.

• 4:46Lewis Howes?

  That's crazy.

• 4:46Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 4:47Lewis Howes?

  Any dimension higher or just?

• 4:48Billy Carson?

  Any, any dimension higher.

• 4:50Lewis Howes?

  Fourth, fifth, sixth, eleventh.

• 4:51Billy Carson?

  That's right. Doesn't matter.

• 4:52Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 4:53Billy Carson?

  For example, we're in the third dimension. If you draw a line, well, you're witnessing the dimension of that single dimension. If you connect those lines and draw a house, you can see into every room of the house from the third dimension. Right? And so you can draw people in different rooms in that house and you can witness those people within that two dimensional structure. From a higher dimension, it would be like someone looking at you in your house at different times of your life. Which is what happened in Interstellar.

• 5:19Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 5:20Billy Carson?

  They can see you as a kid, a teenager, a grown adult, a married man, whatever. From different perspectives, all at the same exact time.

• 5:27Lewis Howes?

  So Interstellar, kind of the movie itself, was it kind of made up sci-fi or was it based on scientific evidence we have today?

• 5:34Billy Carson?

  It's based on scientific evidence we have today, which is what made it so incredible and why it resonated with so many people. Because all this knowledge is resonating inside of every atom in our body already. You know, and, and what does it mean to humanity, right? What does this mean? It means that we're part of something incredibly great. We're part of something so vast. Some people will maybe may hear this and think, well, that means we're just a speck of, of dust. No, it means that we're connected to everything throughout the entire known universe, even connected through everything in the entire known multiverse. And it's a big grand play going on and we have a huge part, a huge role in that. And everything we do here impacts the entire multiverse.

• 6:11Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 6:11Billy Carson?

  Yeah. The butterfly effect.

• 6:13Lewis Howes?

  That's what the universe is.

• 6:17Billy Carson?

  It's a living being also.

• 6:19Lewis Howes?

  The universe is a being.

• 6:19Billy Carson?

  It's a conscious being.

• 6:20Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 6:21Billy Carson?

  Yeah. So if you look at the hermetic principles from ancient times, as above, so below, right? Um, also looking at it maybe even from a circular, a microcosm and the macrocosm. Understanding that everything is made of fractals, right? We're living in a fractal holographic matrix and we're just a fractal of the universe as a whole. Now, look at the human body, right? We have a brain. The brain is encased in this skull, which is in darkness. But the brain itself doesn't know really what's going on on the outside. It has to connect with its friends. A site, taste, the sensory, the touch, you know, and everything else. And say, and here and go out and get the data. The friends go out and collect data. Right? But they themselves can't decipher the data. They have to transmit that data via electrical signals back to the brain.

• 7:03Billy Carson?

  The brain takes all that data in, sorts it all out, and projects a hologram of the what it believes is going on on the outside. And we navigate this matrix based on a holographic projection from collected data. Now, the universe as a whole, go to the macro, is doing the same exact thing. When you zoom out from the universe, you see the way that the clusters of galaxies are compiled. It looks like neurons in a brain.

• 7:26Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 7:26Billy Carson?

  Yes. The exact same structure of the inside of a human conscious brain. And then what's incredible is you realize that the universe itself, being conscious, it doesn't really know what's going on here in the third dimension. But it has its friends, human beings, cats, dogs, a rose, a blade of grass, even a rock. And what is it doing? Everything we know in the third dimension vibrates at a specific frequency. You can't even come to a complete halt. You can't make an atom stop vibrating. Everything vibrates. It's impossible to get to absolute zero unless you create these artificial laboratory conditions. So that means that everything is resonating and vibrating and sending information, in my opinion, back to the source.

• 8:05Lewis Howes?

  Even if something's dead, it's still alive?

• 8:07Billy Carson?

  The atoms, the atoms, the atoms in something dead are still vibrating. Because they're still atoms. They may convert themselves into something different, like a dead thing may.

• 8:16Lewis Howes?

  Moving.

• 8:16Billy Carson?

  It's moving, right. Even if the atoms out of a burnt carbon, they're vibrating. The atoms out of a dead body, they're vibrating, and they're getting ready to be recycled back into this grand system of life. This and could become something else. This transformation occurs. Right? Nothing really ever truly dies. It just transforms.

• 8:33Lewis Howes?

  So would you say the universe then has its own set of consciousness or its own consciousness? And its friends are the planets, the stars, beings.

• 8:43Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 8:43Lewis Howes?

  Trees, water.

• 8:44Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 8:45Lewis Howes?

  And it's sending data to the universe?

• 8:48Billy Carson?

  No, we're sending data back to you. Yes.

• 8:50Lewis Howes?

  It is we.

• 8:51Billy Carson?

  We, and everything else is sending data back. We're transmitting it back because consciousness is not local to the brain. It's downloaded as a stream. The brain itself, the physical brain, is a quantum computer to process that data and harness that that stream of spiritual energy. But we also are two-way. When we're transmitting back, what is it like to be Billy Carson? What is it like to be Lewis Howes? What lessons has Billy and Louis learned throughout their entire life? The experience, what experiences are they having, good and bad? It's collecting information.

• 9:17Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 9:18Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 9:19Lewis Howes?

  Okay, so we're in the 3D right now.

• 9:22Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 9:23Lewis Howes?

  What is the difference between the 3D and the 5D?

• 9:26Billy Carson?

  Okay, that's a great question. So the third dimension, I'll tell you first how scientists or what physicists believe this actually is. They created in a laboratory eight dimensional quasi-crystals. And those eight dimensional quasi-crystals, when turned to a particular angle, cast down a fourth dimensional quasi-crystal. And when they twist that to a particular angle, it casts out a sphere, which is a shadow, a light shadow, a shadow of light from a higher dimension, which they believe is our known universe. So that we're talking about now, beginning to understand the basic mechanism that's creating the universe itself. Okay? So with that being said, understanding that, we now know that as you go up in dimensions,

• 10:08Billy Carson?

  you're going up into higher levels of perception of realities. So do you have the fourth dimension, which used to think, people used to think it was time, but that's just an hour that we utilize here in the third dimension. Technically, there is a fourth dimension called a tesseract. And above that tesseract, you get to the fifth dimension. It gives you even a more broader expansion of, or understanding or view of what's really going on in all the realms beneath it, in itself, and also beneath it.

• 10:35Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 10:35Billy Carson?

  So every time you step up a dimension, it's like becoming an ascended master. You're moving higher and higher through levels of consciousness. We know that even gravity through science is, they believe is streaming down from higher dimensions all the way down to the third, making it one of the weakest forces here in the third dimension. Because it's truncating all the way down through these other higher dimensions as well.

• 10:55Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 10:55Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 10:56Lewis Howes?

  So is it possible for humans to get out of the third dimension into a higher dimension?

• 11:01Billy Carson?

  There's a couple of different talk, you know, tablets that talk about this. In the Emerald Tablets of Thel, he talks about being able to do this, being able to transcend dimensions through consciousness and actually having this, this out of body experience to take you to higher dimensions. He even gives the code words, which are really frequencies to utter to get through the gates of Arul.

• 11:21Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 11:21Billy Carson?

  Other ancients in India and Egypt and, and Asia, and even the

• 11:27Billy Carson?

  Indigenous cultures of the Aboriginals in Australia all have this same understanding that it's possible to transcend dimensions. They call it like becoming an ascended master.

• 11:36Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 11:36Billy Carson?

  Of becoming a sage and understanding how to tap into these higher dimensions. What's interesting is the Brain Institute just a couple of years ago discovered that the human brain connects to 11 dimensions.

• 11:47Lewis Howes?

  That's crazy.

• 11:48Billy Carson?

  Consciously, we are connecting. So we are, they also saw something incredible that synapses, when they were watching these synapses unexpectedly, they would vanish from the third dimension. They would go somewhere and then they would reappear randomly. So they're now hypothesizing that the human mind is also quantum entangling with information, data, or something else in another place and then reappearing here. So it just gets deeper and deeper.

• 12:15Lewis Howes?

  I guess where are our dreams then? What dimension are our dreams when we sleep?

• 12:19Billy Carson?

  That's incredible. I would always think that from my perspective that dreams are probably closer to reality.

• 12:24Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 12:25Billy Carson?

  Yeah. I think that, you know, because the ancients, like the Aboriginals, called this dream time in this realm now. Uh, the Hopi tribe called it sleepy time. And what they're alluding to is that this reality, that this thing that we think is reality is not real, but that we have a higher self in another realm. And that a lot of the times the voice we hear in our head that we are proclaiming is this other source, or maybe sometimes even other deity, really is our own self talking to us.

• 12:50Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 12:50Billy Carson?

  Uh, and that there is another version of us that exists in a higher dimension and we're spiritually connected um, with that higher source and that dreams potentially are glimpses of higher dimensions or being able to access some of these higher dimensions through consciousness.

• 13:07Lewis Howes?

  You have so much content online that I've seen. We talk about these kind of, you know, aliens and pyramids and kind of all these different things, different dimensions. But I think the stuff that I like the most that you talk about, and I think that my audience resonates with the most, is around manifesting their dream reality. Like they have an idea in their mind of what they want to create.

• 13:29Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 13:29Lewis Howes?

  A business, a relationship. Get their health to a certain level. They want to achieve accomplishment in a sport or musical or success, whatever it might be. They want to take something they have in their mind and alchemize it into the real world that we're in, if this is real, right? But they want to create it in this reality.

• 13:45Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 13:46Lewis Howes?

  And I'm curious, with all your studies, because you've been studying this for decades about kind of ancient wisdom, forbidden wisdom.

• 13:54Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 13:55Lewis Howes?

  But also you've been studying modern philosophy and modern, you know, science as well.

• 14:00Billy Carson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:00Lewis Howes?

  So what does the ancient wisdom you've researched and modern science taught you about manifesting?

• 14:06Billy Carson?

  Yeah. Well, that's a great question. See, the ancient wisdom, you discovered that there were these beings in the ancient Sumerian cuneiform tablets, and they were called the Anuno, and later they were called the Anunnaki. And in there, they, some of them call themselves the ordainers of destiny. And what's so interesting about this is they actually had the capability of foreseeing potential outcomes.

• 14:32Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 14:32Billy Carson?

  Based on whatever agenda they wanted to put out. But they would envision these potential outcomes. They would see them on this crystal tablet, which is so bizarre, first of all. This is 6,000 years ago, or maybe even more. But then they would, when they found the outcome that they wanted to happen, they would then create action steps toward that particular outcome, nudging that outcome into reality, collapsing it into the reality tunnel, making it a part of this third dimension while they're alive and living on that timeline. And I learned that really from them. You know, I had done this myself by accident as a younger kid, just coming up with the idea like, if I want, if I want something, I've got to put action steps behind it. And I remember I was at my house and living in Opel

• 15:12Billy Carson?

  Laka down in Miami, Florida, unincorporated day county, a very harsh neighborhood. And I was banned from leaving the front porch because the neighborhood was so deadly. But I was so tired of seeing my friends go to the ice cream truck. And every single, I'm like, we're both poor. How can they get it every day? Like, how? And so I said to myself, I'm gonna take a risk. And I got a Winn-Dixie milk crate that we had, and I loaded up all my toys, and I went door to door, around the block, and asked for donations for my toys. A penny, a nickel, a dollar, whatever. I just want to have money for the ice cream truck. And people were giving me money, these parents. When I got back to my front door, I actually had $13 in change. And I was like, how old were you?

• 15:50Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 15:51Billy Carson?

  I was, uh, seven years old.

• 15:52Lewis Howes?

  Seven?

• 15:52Billy Carson?

  Yeah. And I was like, I'm sorry, eight years old, or eight, forgive me.

• 15:55Lewis Howes?

  It's a lot of money back in the seventies.

• 15:57Billy Carson?

  That was a lot of money.

• 15:58Lewis Howes?

  As an eight-year-old.

• 15:58Billy Carson?

  Yeah, that was a lot of money.

• 15:59Lewis Howes?

  Thirteen bucks at eight, you're rich.

• 16:01Billy Carson?

  Yeah, you're rich and you had a lot of money for, because ice cream was like, I only wanted the bazooka bubble gums. But the, the, the reason why I'm bringing this up is because I had a conscious thought. I saw, I envisioned potential outcome would be, I would have money in my hands to buy my gum from the truck. And I took action. So it's conscious thought multiplied by action equals manifestation, which I then read later in ancient texts. That's what the shirt is. Well, C T multiplied by A equals M. Conscious thought multiplied by action equals manifestation.

• 16:29Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 16:30Billy Carson?

  That's the formula. And you can't get to that formula unless you go through that process. And these ancients knew this a very long time ago. And, uh, because they knew this, that reaffirmed in me, I can really create the reality that I want to be a part of. Yes, there will be things to come and blindside you. Yes, there will be things that will sidetrack you. Yes, there will be hurdles to overcome, but those things are all just problems that need to be, need to have, you have to find solutions to those problems. Instead of seeing those things as negative or, uh, this thing is attacking or this is, it's over for me. It's okay, we have a problem. Now, how can I be a part of the solution to this problem?

• 17:05Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 17:05Billy Carson?

  And it's the, the, the track, the, the, um, the trick is, how do you create solutions consistently to get to your end goal?

• 17:13Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, and then I guess the next, the follow-up question around that is, a lot of people don't even know what their dreams are. They have a loose idea, I want to make a million dollars, I want to lose weight or whatever it is. It's not fully clear. It's like they have a desire or they have a, a, a pleasurable outcome that they see others have that they want, but they're not clear. You talk about the ancients used to have, I guess, whether it was a real crystal ball or just their, their metaphors of like, hey, we could see it in our minds and a crystal ball in our mind. Seven different outcomes of how our life could play out.

• 17:48Billy Carson?

  Correct.

• 17:49Lewis Howes?

  If we wanted it, if we went this path and this path. And then you talk about the conscious thought in the action, the consistent action to go manifest and alchemize that idea and collapse time and space until reality meets that thought. So how important when man, wanting to manifest your goals and dreams? Are our thoughts, our words and our actions?

• 18:11Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 18:12Lewis Howes?

  Should we be loosey goosey with our thoughts and words to others, to ourselves? Is it act once in a while? Is it, you know, is it obsession? Like, how important are thoughts, words and actions and manifesting our dreams?

• 18:25Billy Carson?

  So what's important is understanding the power of the thoughts and the words because when you really understand cymatic frequencies, which are the vibrations created by sound. Through science, we've discovered that those cymatics, which have then consciousness piggybacked on them, have the ability to change reality. You know, Dr. Masuda Emoto, the former scientist that created that water experiment, where he put water in jars and people would speak to the water. I love you, I hate you. And then you test it under a microscope. You see that I hate you didn't form into a nice crystal, but I love you did form into a nice crystal. So let us know that conscious thought and cymatic that come out of your throat, you literally have a double edged sword in your mouth, like it says in the biblical text. You can alter realities.

• 19:09Billy Carson?

  And so when people talk to me and they find out about these trips that I go on, all these crazy places that I go visit and take tours to, they go, one day I might be able to go. Oh, I hope I can go. Man, I wish I could go. I don't have any money right now, I'm broke, but I, maybe one day, I'll never be able to make it. They just cancel that reality from their future. They took that potential opportunity, that potential outcome, that superposition in quantum physics, and they collapsed it and they moved it out of the way. And yes, it will never happen if they keep that same mindset and they keep speaking those same words. Because they've just collapsed it. They've talked to themselves, their subconscious now believes what they said. Their cells took in that vibration and that frequency, and they've celebrated to that negative frequency that means this is never going to happen and they've accepted it.

• 19:52Billy Carson?

  So they're going to do everything within their power to keep you in that particular frame where that never occurs or never comes into your timeline. But when you begin to realize these mistakes of mistalking and talking bad about yourself and not understanding that you're speaking your existence into reality.

• 20:06Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 20:07Billy Carson?

  Then you change your speech. And when you change your speech, you instantly start creating new connections in the brain. Your DNA begins to rewrite itself and your cells begin to celebrate on the right frequency. And now you begin to bring these things into your reality.

• 20:19Lewis Howes?

  What are the, what are the words we should never say about ourselves?

• 20:22Billy Carson?

  I suck, I hate myself, I'm no good, I, I'm not good at this. Instead of saying things like that, I'm not good at this, or I suck, or I'm horrible, I'm a bad person, I'm crazy, you know, all these things that we just throw around like it's not even a big deal. We don't realize how much we're hurting ourselves, a detriment to ourself and even our body. We have to be, you know, reword ourselves. If it's something you're not good at, don't say I suck at this. Say, I'm not that great at this, but I'm gonna work to become better, you know? Like, for example, I came down with pneumonia about, uh, now 10 weeks ago. I mean, like, a couple of weeks of recovery left on this, and I actually almost died in Turkey.

• 20:55Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 20:55Billy Carson?

  Uh, just a few weeks ago, I was in a near-death experience in the hospital going into septic shock.

• 21:00Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 21:00Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 21:01Lewis Howes?

  Holy cow, man.

• 21:02Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:02Lewis Howes?

  We could've rescheduled this.

• 21:03Billy Carson?

  That's okay. I rescheduled so much stuff already. I was like, I gotta get back out there.

• 21:07Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 21:08Billy Carson?

  But the point I'm making is, every time somebody talks to me about it, I don't say, "Man, I'm still sick, man, I'm still suffering with this thing." I say, "I'm coming along, I'm getting better, still suffering a little bit, but I'm, I'm working it out. I'm feeling a little bit better, my voice is coming back, my weight's coming back."

• 21:22Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 21:23Billy Carson?

  It's just the understanding of, as you can see, it's affecting me a little bit, but it's the understanding of like, "Yeah, I'm getting better," and I'm telling my body consistently. And I lost 22 pounds in two weeks. I went down to 100, uh, 200 pounds, and now I'm back at 215. So, you know, in that short period of time, I was able, able to gain back almost more than, you know, the weight that I lost. And I could feel like I can get back to 225 if I really wanted to now.

• 21:48Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 21:48Billy Carson?

  But again, it's just that belief that I have in myself. I'm back working out, back walking again, exercising, you know, doing my thing. But I could've succumbed to this and told myself, "This thing took me over, I almost died," and it's, you know, "I don't know, I don't have the energy, the strength to walk." My wife said, "We gotta go for a walk outside." I couldn't walk past three palm trees, that was like, maybe 20 feet. And so, from 20 feet to a quarter of a mile, to a mile, to two miles, all the way to five miles. But pushing and realizing, uh, this is gonna make me better, I'm gonna overcome this. Instead of succumbing to it, a lot of people, their talk allows them to consciously and subconsciously succumb to situations, to things that they wanna bring into their life, to relationships, to, to finances, uh, to whatever it is.

• 22:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 22:31Billy Carson?

  They don't understand how powerful their words really are.

• 22:34Lewis Howes?

  It's like you're commanding against yourself.

• 22:37Billy Carson?

  Correct.

• 22:37Lewis Howes?

  I suck. I'm horrible. I'm not good enough. I'm not worthy. I'm a horrible person like.

• 22:43Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 22:43Lewis Howes?

  I don't even wanna say that and just put it out there, but as an example.

• 22:46Billy Carson?

  Where you're saying it.

• 22:47Lewis Howes?

  Well, it's, it's, the sad thing is I used to say that to myself all the time as a kid.

• 22:52Billy Carson?

  Yeah, I was guilty of myself.

• 22:53Lewis Howes?

  To others about me for like, I don't know, the first 20 years of my life.

• 22:57Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 22:58Lewis Howes?

  Maybe more consistently in times than others.

• 23:00Billy Carson?

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:00Lewis Howes?

  And so I feel bad for the younger version of me.

• 23:04Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 23:04Lewis Howes?

  That I treated myself that way. And I was blocking peace, freedom, opportunities.

• 23:10Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 23:11Lewis Howes?

  And I still was quote unquote, successful and accomplishing a lot. And I'm always like, man, I wonder what I could have done.

• 23:16Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 23:16Lewis Howes?

  Had I been kinder to myself.

• 23:18Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Lewis Howes?

  Had I spoken differently about me, uh, and had I viewed myself differently. And I think people get mixed up and thinking, well, I wanna make sure I'm humble and I don't wanna speak like I have this.

• 23:28Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 23:29Lewis Howes?

  God, or I have this big ego or something like that, or I'm untouchable. And so it's figuring out a balance of how to communicate with self in a loving compassionate way.

• 23:39Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 23:39Lewis Howes?

  Without being like, I'm the best in the world and no one's better than me, or whatever it is.

• 23:43Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 23:43Lewis Howes?

  There's a fine line to that.

• 23:44Billy Carson?

  There's a fine line. There's a, there's a, there's a gray line that you walk there. Because you always wanna have confidence in yourself, the ultimate confidence in yourself. I think the biggest problem that a lot of people have, they don't believe in themselves.

• 23:53Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 23:54Billy Carson?

  They really don't believe in themselves and they're always looking for an outside source to come and fix their problems when they're the one that's gonna fix their problem.

• 24:00Lewis Howes?

  If someone does not believe in themselves and their dreams coming true.

• 24:05Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 24:05Lewis Howes?

  What is gonna happen?

• 24:06Billy Carson?

  Well, they're gonna, you know, go into this frequency where they're gonna begin to attract everything on that same frequency. So everything that becomes a situation, that becomes another situation, they're gonna have a problem for every solution, right? And it's just gonna feel like they're going down this deep, dark hole and they can't climb back out. When they have to realize the first thing they have to do, number one, is they have to learn how to forgive themselves. This is the biggest reason why people don't believe in themselves. Because they feel like they've done things that happened in the past and they could have did this way, they could have went that way. This was wrong, that was wrong, whatever, whatever it was. To go into the mirror and look at yourself and talk to yourself, a lot of people can't, aren't comfortable with themselves.

• 24:44Lewis Howes?

  So true, man.

• 24:45Billy Carson?

  And to say, man, you screwed up. But guess what? I forgive you. I forgive you and I bring love, I bring peace, I bring joy. Now let's analyze why we did this. Let's analyze what's behind this screw up. Okay. All right, we understand now. Now let's learn from this. What can we gain? What knowledge can we gain from this situation? And how can we not ever repeat this again? Now you've just been born again in the spirit. Now you've just grown consciously. And you can look back on your previous stuff and see you were here, but now you're here.

• 25:15Lewis Howes?

  Gosh, a perfect example, you know, this is a year and a half ago.

• 25:21Lewis Howes?

  I did this exact exercise. And my fiancee Martha, she told me to do it.

• 25:26Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 25:26Lewis Howes?

  And I was kinda like, nah, this is kinda silly or whatever. But I actually, I was in so much pain for three months. I had, um, when I was 16, I had eight teeth removed.

• 25:34Billy Carson?

  Oh, wow.

• 25:35Lewis Howes?

  Four here, then four wisdom. So four wisdom, but then four others. Because when I was a teenager, my teeth were kinda crowded, whatever. And that was what they did back then. They removed all your teeth and you were supposed to have, I didn't get braces afterwards. I was supposed to.

• 25:48Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 25:48Lewis Howes?

  And so my jaw kinda grew in and collapsed. Where my back teeth never touched. They still barely touch today.

• 25:54Billy Carson?

  Wow.

• 25:55Lewis Howes?

  And so I waited 20 years until I got, I put those four teeth back in with implants.

• 26:01Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:03Lewis Howes?

  And I had to do bone grafts and it was just a, it was a painful process. And one of the implants ejected.

• 26:10Billy Carson?

  Oh, no.

• 26:11Lewis Howes?

  After a month. So it was in my bone, it just wasn't healing. And it came out one night.

• 26:16Billy Carson?

  God.

• 26:16Lewis Howes?

  So they had to do it again.

• 26:17Billy Carson?

  Oh, man.

• 26:18Lewis Howes?

  Six months later, all this stuff, right? And my head was throbbing for months. It was on like, medicine, which I never take medicine, but it was in so much pain.

• 26:26Billy Carson?

  You had to take it, that's too much.

• 26:27Lewis Howes?

  I had to. It was like throbbing constantly right here.

• 26:30Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 26:30Lewis Howes?

  And after months, she goes, you need to look in the mirror and you need to forgive yourself. You need to forgive yourself for what you did to yourself 20 years ago. You need to forgive yourself for doing this now, even though it's bettering you. But you need to love and accept yourself for what you've been through.

• 26:49Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 26:49Lewis Howes?

  And forgive.

• 26:50Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 26:50Lewis Howes?

  And she was like, I want you to walk into the bathroom right now and don't come out until you follow the entire process that you just said.

• 26:56Billy Carson?

  Wow.

• 26:57Lewis Howes?

  And I, and I kid you not, I cannot make this up. I was in throbbing pain for months. Within moments after having this conversation, the pain was gone. I get chills just saying it because I was just like, I don't know many people, it's very vulnerable to look yourself in the eyes in the mirror.

• 27:16Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 27:16Lewis Howes?

  And say, I love you, I forgive you. You matter, you're enough, you're deserving of peace, freedom, health, love. And I forgive you for everything you've done.

• 27:31Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 27:32Lewis Howes?

  It is so powerful. So I'm glad you said this because I have a personal experience to it.

• 27:36Billy Carson?

  Correct.

• 27:37Lewis Howes?

  That got an instant result. I'm not saying it's gonna be instant forever one.

• 27:40Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 27:41Lewis Howes?

  But I felt an instant relief of pain into freedom.

• 27:44Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 27:45Lewis Howes?

  By forgiving myself, which was the first step that you talked about. So I think a lot of people, they always hold on to the past. They never forgive.

• 27:53Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 27:54Lewis Howes?

  And so that's, that's part of your, I guess, formula for, for manifesting what you want or for creating the, the life that you want to create is starting with forgiveness.

• 28:03Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 28:04Lewis Howes?

  What if you've done horrible things?

• 28:05Billy Carson?

  Yeah. Well, you just have to still forgive yourself. I mean, you know, horrible, if somebody, I'm from the seventies, right? I'm a seventies baby. So, you know, falling down and getting a huge gash on my body or something like that and playing for the rest of the day is not even a big deal. And you go drink some water hose and wash it off with a water hose from somebody's house.

• 28:23Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 28:23Billy Carson?

  In this day and age that it happens, a lot of kids, they just can't, they couldn't handle it. They'd panic, you know, the mother would rush into the hospital right away. They gotta go get it disinfected and get stitches and injections of tetanus shots and everything. But does that make my trauma less than their trauma? We both received that trauma. You know, I suppressed the trauma, you know, and so that trauma still in my body. When you go and do this, when you do this forgiveness, um, uh, you know, thing, what happens is you're clearing trauma from your body. You can't really manifest if you're full to the top of trauma. You need space.

• 28:54Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 28:54Billy Carson?

  And as you begin to address the shadow work within yourself, the space becomes more and more clear. I had to learn this from my wife, Elizabeth. I mean, without her, I wouldn't have even known. I was suffering from a lot of trauma from my childhood.

• 29:05Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 29:05Billy Carson?

  Seeing people get murdered in the streets and seeing people get stabbed, from getting shot myself and stabbed in my back from trying to protect my house in, in Miami. Um, you know, just various things that have happened over time and this just builds up a lot of trauma. Watching my parents argue a lot and a lot of like negativity in the house, dysfunctional situations. That trauma was still in my body, even though I was acting normal and I was suppressing and acting like, ah, man, just whatever. That's just life, you know, it's all good. That's why we grew up. That's how it was back then. But no, that's really inside of me. They have to begin to go and address that trauma. And you have to look at it, which is hard. It's hard to look at it. And when it comes back up, man, it can get you real emotional. But it cleared more space in my body. And it gave me the ability to be become even a better manifestor of my reality,

• 29:47Billy Carson?

  to manifest my abundance, to, to, to really embrace my talents and my gifts and thrive with them. There was something holding me back as good as I was doing. There was so much more and there still is much more. It never ends.

• 30:01Lewis Howes?

  So on a scientific level, what is our body made of then?

• 30:05Billy Carson?

  Well, the body primarily is made of about 70% water. And so when you go back to the water experiment with the cymatic frequencies and the conscious thought, well, what's your body doing? Your body, the water in your body is absorbing your conscious thoughts. See, every thought you think leaves your skull. It doesn't just go and you stay inside this little area. It leaves the skull and it leaves the skull in all directions.

• 30:25Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 30:25Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 30:26Lewis Howes?

  How does it break through the skull, the bone?

• 30:27Billy Carson?

  It's a wave of light. See, I could put an EEG cap on your head, just sit it right on top of your head, and I can see all your thoughts on a computer. How'd that happen? The thoughts left your skull and went into the little sensors and then got sent to a computer. No surgery needed. So we know that this is leaving our head. Just like radio waves from the I Love Lucy show of 1960s is still traveling through space as waves. If I can decode those waves light years away, I can watch I Love Lucy. It's the same frequency. And your thoughts are all out there. Every thought you've ever thought from the beginning of your first thought is existing on this energetic grid. That's the book of life. That's the Akashic record.

• 31:03Lewis Howes?

  I had some bad thoughts out there in the past, man.

• 31:07Billy Carson?

  Well, we all have. Every thought's leaving your skull and it's out here and for eternity in this energetic grid. The thoughts are all there, you see? And so they're leaving your skull, they're penetrating out, but they're also going down, out, in through the body. And of course, the words we speak are also creating these frequencies that doesn't matter what language it is, the cells understand that frequency.

• 31:29Lewis Howes?

  So is it the cell, because they're just sounds, right? And it's like in a different language, a swear word might be a loving word.

• 31:36Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 31:36Lewis Howes?

  You know, a different language.

• 31:37Billy Carson?

  It's the intention.

• 31:38Lewis Howes?

  So is it the intention and the awareness of the meaning?

• 31:41Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 31:41Lewis Howes?

  It's like the awareness. We give this sound and how it feels and resonates within us.

• 31:46Billy Carson?

  That's it. The conscious thought is piggyback on the semantic frequency. So it doesn't matter what you're speaking. It's the intention of that word. The water now takes on that water in the body. It takes that information and it processes it. And it understands negative or positive. And now you begin to get sick on the inside of it. It's too much negativity. We know that what happens with doctors will tell you, if you go to your doctor, oh, man, your stress is giving you an ulcer. This stress is giving you cancer. If you have an autoimmune problem, you get stressed out, it brings the autoimmune response out in your body. So we know that the body is responding to exterior, uh, you know, influence.

• 32:21Lewis Howes?

  Or in how we interpret exterior influence.

• 32:23Billy Carson?

  Exactly. How you interpret the.

• 32:24Lewis Howes?

  Because every event is just kind of neutral. If you look at it, I mean, we make, we make it a horrible or positive event.

• 32:31Billy Carson?

  Correct.

• 32:32Lewis Howes?

  Like we interpret, oh, someone's dying or someone got shot by someone.

• 32:36Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 32:36Lewis Howes?

  Intentionally that we make it a horrible event. And I'm not discounting that.

• 32:41Billy Carson?

  I understand.

• 32:41Lewis Howes?

  But how we resonate with that energetically, we're feeling that.

• 32:45Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 32:46Lewis Howes?

  And I think it's, it's totally fine to feel compassionate and something is wrong based on our society and all these different things. I'm not condoning uh, someone being murdered, but it's like we interpret the event as being a positive or negative or neutral. And it's our interpretation. If we ruminate on that interpretation for long enough and we don't clear that energy.

• 33:06Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 33:07Lewis Howes?

  Then it will make us sicker or make us more loving.

• 33:11Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 33:11Lewis Howes?

  We ruminate on a positive uh, experience, experience. We're gonna feel more abundant, more, more loving.

• 33:18Billy Carson?

  Absolutely.

• 33:19Lewis Howes?

  It's the rumination of the meaning that we give the event.

• 33:22Billy Carson?

  Right. That's facts.

• 33:23Lewis Howes?

  So if you have experienced traumas in your life and you either block them, stuff them, don't bring them up, whatever it might be. They're still in your body is what I'm here you say.

• 33:35Billy Carson?

  Yes, they're still in your body.

• 33:36Lewis Howes?

  Even if you're like, well, I'm just gonna go learn more and succeed more and make money and whatever it might be. That hasn't left your body.

• 33:42Billy Carson?

  Right. When does it start to leave your body? Is that when you start to forgive yourself? Yeah, when you start to, that's why I say the first thing, like, if somebody can follow this process and the first thing is forgive themselves, that starts the clearing process, that starts the body to get into alignment with this healing process, right? And then from there, to begin to speak positive affirmations about yourself every single day. If you can write down positive affirmations, at least, you know, maybe nine. There's one particular exercise where you have down nine positive affirmations. And you speak them out loud six times a day for 21 days. Scientists have proved in an actual laboratory setting,

• 34:23Billy Carson?

  that the DNA in the human body, and people can look this up, begins to rewrite itself. Come on. Yes, that's real. Wow. Absolute real, and this is something anybody could look up. I gotta find this. Science. I gotta find this. Yes. Speaking positive affirmations 21 days, your DNA begins to actually rewrite itself. So now, you are the creator of your own destiny. You are rewriting the DNA inside of your own body. Now, what is DNA? DNA is a storage medium, it stores information. It's data. Yes, data. You know, George Church, a scientist, took one gram of DNA, which is just a drop, and he said, I wonder if this could store information in a volume? So he took his ebook,

• 35:04Billy Carson?

  and he actually took his ebook and he converted from zeros and ones into A's, C's, T's and G's, and downloaded it directly onto the DNA. Come on. Yes. What is the DNA, like a cell or a drop of blood, or what is that? What is like? DNA is, you know, it's just the DNA of the human body. He was able to take. Like a cell or? Gram of it. No, no, it's not a cell, smaller than a cell. And then science wouldn't create the cells and everything. It creates everything in the human body. It's the smallest thing that, you know, one of the smallest things that exists to make up the human form. And he downloaded his ebook. Yeah. Into that little DNA. Drop. And then he replicated it 80 billion times.

• 35:38Lewis Howes?

  How?

• 35:39Billy Carson?

  Yeah, I'm dead serious. And this is a book with multimedia in it, too. It's not just a regular standard text. And then he, listen, then he changed it from ACs, Ts and Gs back into zeros and ones and uploaded it back to the server again.

• 35:51Lewis Howes?

  That's pretty impossible.

• 35:52Billy Carson?

  Yeah. So now, but listen to what Microsoft did. Microsoft is heavily involved in it. So they went and formed and created the very first DNA hard drive. Where you have molecular and you have hard tech working together to create storage capacity. One gram, one drop can store 433 petabytes of data.

• 36:10Lewis Howes?

  I don't even know what that means.

• 36:11Billy Carson?

  That's a, well, a petabyte is a, is a thousand terabytes.

• 36:14Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 36:14Billy Carson?

  Okay? And they discovered that the human body can store about 13.5 billion years of data, which is roughly around the time they believe the universe even exists. So all the secrets and mysteries of the known universe are hidden inside of our body.

• 36:27Lewis Howes?

  That is crazy.

• 36:28Billy Carson?

  And that says in the, in the myth of Adapa, there's an ancient text called the myth of Adapa where it says just that exact same thing. Which is just crazy. The correlation between the two, modern science and the ancient texts. The ancients knew what we're just finding out.

• 36:43Lewis Howes?

  What is the positive affirmation that you say to yourself daily?

• 36:47Billy Carson?

  I am the architect of my life. That's number one. I want to know that I'm the architect. I'm creating my reality. I'm, you know, good or bad, I'm the one that's directing it, right? I'm the architect. And I will say that, you know, I'm worthy. I want to understand and feel worthiness because the way that I grew up and the people I grew up around didn't really feel worthy of anything. They felt like they were just trying to survive on a daily basis. Can we make it through this day? Can we make it through that day? No, I'm worthy of abundance. So I'm, I'm worthy of abundance, right? I'm worthy of great relationships. I'm worthy of great family. I'm, I'm worthy of happiness. I want to be happy. I don't want to be sad. I don't want to be stressed out. I want happiness in my life, especially when I get to my age now. I'm 53, right? I just want to be happy, man. I just want peace.

• 37:31Lewis Howes?

  Peace.

• 37:31Billy Carson?

  Look, man, you know what I'm saying? I don't want no drama. I don't want stress. It's still gonna come. But overall, the balance is there where I have more peace than stress, which is where I want to be. And I'm manifesting it on a daily basis.

• 37:44Lewis Howes?

  When did that shift for you to? Going from survival mode internally and like probably every day thinking, how do I just survive? Whether you were thinking that or just being at survival mode. From either trauma or literal, we don't have money. We need to figure out how to survive. When did that shift for you in saying this survival mode way of thinking and being isn't serving me of creating abundance anywhere? Cause a lot of people watching or listening might feel like I'm stuck or in survival mode in some area of my life, in my relationship. I'm in survival mode every day. It's up and down.

• 38:18Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 38:18Lewis Howes?

  My career, my boss is crazy. Every day it's something down. My business, it's every day. I don't know if I'm going to bring in a client or not. My health, it's a yo yo diet every time. I'm in survival mode. How does someone like, when did you learn to get out of survival mode in order to create abundance? And what does the process look like for someone watching or listening? To shift and make a different intention moving forward that no longer you're going to be in survival.

• 38:45Billy Carson?

  Gotcha. For me, honestly, I was so fortunate. It started when I was very young. 1978, uh, down in Miami, Florida. I sold those toys and I, I never forget this. When I got done selling my toys door to door, I said to myself out loud. I spoke this, I said, it's me that's going to save me. I just realized it at that moment.

• 39:03Lewis Howes?

  At eight years old?

• 39:05Billy Carson?

  Yeah. At eight years old, I realized like, wow, it's me. And I, I went in the house that day and I was standing out, looking out the little window. And my mom came over and said, what's wrong, son? I said, I don't belong here and I'm getting out.

• 39:16Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 39:16Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 39:17Lewis Howes?

  Come on.

• 39:18Billy Carson?

  I'm dead serious. I knew it. I just said to myself, I don't belong here. I had experienced something. I realized something magical for me. You know, back then you gotta remember, I didn't have a lot of distractions, no TV, no cable, TV didn't even exist yet, none of these things. And I was just like this there realizing like, if I have an idea and I, and I act on that idea, I can get a result, something can happen positive for me. And this is what happened. I got money in my hand. I took a picture with the money in my hand with a Polaroid camera. And, uh, yeah, and I was like, this is crazy. And so from that moment, I knew, I said to myself, I'm going to get out of here. I, I, I had hope. Up to that moment, I really didn't have a lot of hope. But at that moment, I realized I had hope. It wasn't instantaneous, but I knew that these things would happen. And so not too, not many years later, I was 12.

• 40:03Billy Carson?

  My dad called me in the room and he said, "Son, from this point forward, I'm not going to buy you any more school clothes, any more school supplies, and you gotta pay a hundred bucks a month in rent." At 12? 12 years old. Oh, my gosh. At 12 years old. And I was like, "Well, I only got two pair of pants anyway, and my shoes have holes in them. I had holes in my socks. I would put cardboard in my shoe to keep my feet from touching the street. I hardly ever wear open toes till this day because my toes were jammed up in these shoes so much, man, I damaged my feet. So you would hardly, rarely see me in any kind of open-toe shoe. But the point being is that we were already struggling. So to me, it was like, okay, well, what I gotta do? He said, "Well, here's the Miami news." And in there, there were a classified ad section, and they were hiring 12 to 16-year-olds to sell the newspaper subscriptions. Not the paper delivery, but to sell the subscriptions. So I had experience in this already.

• 40:46Billy Carson?

  They'd drop you off in the neighborhood until you go square the block. That means go door to door until you get back to this corner. I had already done that, selling my toys. I got a little training in, right? Yeah. So I was doing that. I became the number one salesperson. My friends were blowing their little $150 checks, you know, every couple of weeks, and I was saving my money. And I only bought one thing, a digital calculator watch from Kmart. And it had the little black, you know, readout. And my friend said, um, you know, uh, "What did you, why'd you buy that watch?" I said, "'Cause this is the future." I said, "Matter of fact," and we were sitting in his dad's car. I said, "This analog radio's gonna change. These numbers are gonna be on that screen one day." And he laughed at me.

• 41:26Billy Carson?

  A week later, I went to the grocery store, and there was a magazine called Opportunity Magazine, which is still in business today. And I opened it up, and the page I opened it up to was Galaxy Electronics out of New York City, still in business. And they were selling wholesale digital car stereos. I had the money. So I, again, the saving, the seeing the future, I'm gonna need this for something, because I have, I can't blow this on trash. I invested that money into those radios. Wow. Back then, it was COD, if you remember, cash on delivery. I called up the company, I ordered the radios. The guy said, "You sound kinda young." I said, "I just, I just have a cold." Nothing to lose, because he's sending me... COD UPS man takes the money. He closes it in a little tight packet. He gives me my radios. I sell the radios to upperclassmen in school.

• 42:11Billy Carson?

  Word gets out. I start selling radios like you wouldn't believe. Now I've got people coming from the tri county area to buy radios from me at my house. I keep reinvesting back into the business. By the time I was 13, I was making more than my parents.

• 42:22Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 42:23Billy Carson?

  So I'm maximizing now, right? Now I found a guy at the GBT Audio who lived on my same street. Hired him as the installer because he was, they weren't treating him good. I said, come work for me, man. You have a lot more freedom. He's installing at my house. Now I'm installing right in front of my house. I'm selling them and installing them. Nobody could beat my prices because I have no overhead.

• 42:42Lewis Howes?

  Right, right, right.

• 42:42Billy Carson?

  Just what I'm reinvesting. But understanding like I'm creating this. And I think for a lot of people that begin to get stuck and feel like they just can't get over the hump in anything that they're doing, they have to look at one thing themselves in the mirror. We keep looking for this thing that's going to come and rescue us. One day my boss is going to recognize my worth and give me this big raise. No, maybe you need to recognize your worth and start investing your spare time and kept and some of your extra money that you've been blowing on things you don't need into building something on the side so that you can generate a revenue and some income, some past income for yourself and eventually surpass when the boss is giving you and then spread, break, break out and start your own company and build something big for yourself and be proud of yourself.

• 43:26Billy Carson?

  You're going to work a lot of hours, put a lot of time in, have a lot of stress, but it's yours. Okay, and you're not going to fire yourself and you're going to be able to take care of yourself better. If you're in a relationship situation, I was in very many bad relationships over the years because I started to realize that a giver and a taker, when they meet, they get into a relationship. So.

• 43:44Lewis Howes?

  I haven't known as a giver in ever relationship, man.

• 43:46Billy Carson?

  Me too.

• 43:46Lewis Howes?

  It sucked the life out of me.

• 43:48Billy Carson?

  I listen, it destroyed me almost. It almost took me out and I had to come to terms that it's me that's creating these relationships by getting into relationships and getting on the frequency of what does not serve me. And when I realized that, I said, oh my God, it's me that's creating and putting myself in these situations. It's not them. Forget being mad at the ex. It's me that's doing this to me. So what I do, I went out, started meditating on finding a giver and I ended up finding a giver.

• 44:14Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, me too.

• 44:14Billy Carson?

  Oh, man.

• 44:15Lewis Howes?

  Dude, it's the greatest gift in the world.

• 44:18Billy Carson?

  It's so much.

• 44:19Lewis Howes?

  When there's two givers together, it's like exponential.

• 44:21Billy Carson?

  Yeah, it's so.

• 44:22Lewis Howes?

  You're not drained.

• 44:24Billy Carson?

  When I met my giver, which is my wife, Elizabeth. The company went from here and just exploded.

• 44:30Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 44:30Billy Carson?

  Because the frequency, the energy, her knowledge, my knowledge, we're building together. We're on, you know, everything is just synchronous and just working out for the best good of both of us. Instead of one trying to drain one and hold one back and being jealous and envious of one. Both are on the same frequency.

• 44:47Lewis Howes?

  I know that world, man.

• 44:48Billy Carson?

  You know, that was tough, bro.

• 44:49Lewis Howes?

  Man.

• 44:52Lewis Howes?

  So I, the, um.

• 44:56Lewis Howes?

  The affirmation that you say to yourself is I'm worthy of abundance, I'm worthy of love, of happiness, of a healthy relationship. And I'm the creator of my destiny, essentially. I think that's what you.

• 45:06Billy Carson?

  Yeah, I'm the architect of my life.

• 45:07Lewis Howes?

  I'm the architect of my life.

• 45:09Billy Carson?

  I fill this foundation and fill this, uh, I, I, I, I found it, I build this foundation and I fuel its power.

• 45:17Lewis Howes?

  So these are the affirmations that you say. How much of your success is related to the principle of affirmations, would you say?

• 45:26Billy Carson?

  I would say the majority of it.

• 45:28Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 45:28Billy Carson?

  Because.

• 45:29Lewis Howes?

  Just speaking it into existence.

• 45:30Billy Carson?

  Because I feel like I'm commanding realities. I feel like the same spark that created everything in the known universe, from the divine, from God, whatever you want to call it. Is in every single atom in my body. And if I'm a fracas of that God consciousness, then I also have a certain amount of power over this realm. And to not relinquish my power to outside sources, to understand and accept that power and walk in that power. So I command my prayer, when I pray, I command realities into existence.

• 45:55Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 45:56Billy Carson?

  When I get on an airplane, I don't hope and beg and wish that my plane makes it to its destination. I say, I commanded my plane takes off safely and I commanded this plane to land safely. And I envisioned a path, the flight path in my head, and that's the end of the prayer. There is nothing else to say because I believe in the end before the end, you see? And so little things like that, so I'm, I'm always working on how do I command my power, the power, the divine power that's been given and granted to me, my birthright. And I experiment with it all the time.

• 46:23Lewis Howes?

  I love this and I believe in this because I do this as well, but I can already see people are watching and listening saying, "Okay, I'm gonna command that I make a million dollars in the next month." "Because I see this reality and I'm gonna take the actions and..." "But it's not happening. I've been commanding it for years and these things aren't happening. I'm still stuck." "So, how can you command the reality you wanna manifest?"

• 46:46Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 46:47Lewis Howes?

  "While also not being attached if it doesn't happen and the timeline that you want."

• 46:52Billy Carson?

  Mm-hmm. Well, there's two things with that. The first thing is preparation. So, you have to find out what your passion is, number one. A lot of people are trying to manifest money in areas where they don't, they're not even passionate about. If you're not passionate about being a podcaster and you're trying to make, you know, become a millionaire from being a podcaster, it's not gonna happen, right? And a lot of people are working outside of their passion.

• 47:12Lewis Howes?

  Or it might happen and then you sabotage it or you're unhealthy, you're not happy with it or something bad.

• 47:17Billy Carson?

  It's just so bad. It's so, you don't even wanna go to work. Even though it could be making money. I know people like that as well. You could be, they're making money, but they're not happy. They're always complaining to me. And one of them is a billionaire.

• 47:26Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 47:26Billy Carson?

  But he's so sick on the inside. He's always got health issues. But find your passion, number one. What are you passionate about? And if you don't know, write down everything that you like to do, everything you think you'd like to do, things you're interested in on a piece of paper. Then flip that paper over and begin to organize those in order of preference. And then, if it's something that you think should be at the top, but you're not good at, go learn how to do that and learn how to do it very, very well.

• 47:49Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 47:50Billy Carson?

  Then you're gonna find a need for that passion in the world. Because the secret to making money is to find a need and fill it. So, you find a need for that passion. Who needs that passion? What company, what person needs that product, the service, or whatever it is you're providing? When you find that, you exchange energy with them and then money becomes a side effect. So, you never chase the money. Don't focus on making a million dollars. Don't focus on making twenty million dollars. Focus on living within your passion and providing that passion to the world and the money will show up. It's just an instrument, which is a side effect of your energy exchange.

• 48:18Lewis Howes?

  Hundred percent. And being of service, added value.

• 48:20Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 48:21Lewis Howes?

  This is something I wanted to follow up with on the previous question.

• 48:28Lewis Howes?

  Around...

• 48:31Lewis Howes?

  Well, I'm not sure where this where this ties in, but there was this came to me and I wanted to to mention it. Actually, I do know your your affirmation of I'm the creator. What is it again?

• 48:41Billy Carson?

  Architect of my.

• 48:42Lewis Howes?

  I'm the architect, right?

• 48:43Billy Carson?

  My life, yeah.

• 48:44Lewis Howes?

  And you were mentioning before that how I'm not a victim and needing other people to provide for me, right? Or needing other people to save me or rescue me. It's more I'm the architect.

• 48:53Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 48:54Lewis Howes?

  This is probably gonna piss off a lot of people because I don't watch news, but I do see people sending me clips of content here and there, and I know what's happening in the world.

• 49:04Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 49:04Lewis Howes?

  There's seems to be in the last, you know, five years, a heightened race war.

• 49:09Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 49:09Lewis Howes?

  A heightened gender war and a political war.

• 49:12Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 49:12Lewis Howes?

  Where it's someone or someones or groups have more power than others, have more rights than others, and I'm not here to justify who has what or whatnot. But there always seems to be groups of people that say, you're not giving me what I want or what I deserve or what I need, and it's your fault, and you need to give me these rights or this type of understanding or this type of benefits, whatever it might be.

• 49:37Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 49:39Lewis Howes?

  What happens for people that come from that space? Is there power in that race war, political war, gender war, whatever it might be? If someone's coming from that space?

• 49:52Billy Carson?

  Yeah. You mean in terms of the people who are are complaining about the situation? Or the people that are putting a boot on the neck?

• 50:00Lewis Howes?

  People that are complaining about the situation.

• 50:02Billy Carson?

  Right. The complaints.

• 50:03Lewis Howes?

  Or saying like, I'm a victim to this situation, whatever it might be.

• 50:06Billy Carson?

  Right, what can I do?

• 50:07Lewis Howes?

  Yes, and it's and you need to change to give me more of this.

• 50:10Billy Carson?

  Right, right.

• 50:11Lewis Howes?

  You need to change for me to have more, to to be accepted more, to be whatever, have more rights, whatever.

• 50:17Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah, right, right. You know, coming from where I came from, it's so hard for me to to to say or make a hard statement that. Every single person can't find some level of solace or success within wherever they are, no matter where they live on the planet. I understand that there's wars going on. You can't stop somebody else from shooting a bomb on and blowing up your whole apartment building. Things like that happen and it's very sad, unfortunate. But at the same time, you have to always learn how to make the most of every situation that you're dealt with. Right? So it's learning how to, maybe they're not, uh, living in, uh, you know, a nice, clean condo overlooking a lake in the backyard. But they've got now solid roof over their head. They found a way to navigate the system.

• 50:58Billy Carson?

  They made the right collaborations and connections within their little, small, you know, war drawn community to be able to provide some level of, at least some level of security and safety for themselves. They have food to eat, they have water to drink, you know, things like that. Uh, there's different levels of abundance and I try to tell people all the time, when you, when I say I want to manifest abundance or abundance is your birthright. Everyone's not going to be a billionaire, right? It's just not going to happen, but are your daily needs met? You know, are you succumbing to the situation? And some people off themselves, you know, whatever you want to call it. There are some people, uh, sell their, in some of these other countries, they sell their kids. I mean, all these things because they feel like just can't handle the situation. Or are you a fighter? Are you in here to really go to battle on the spiritual realm?

• 51:40Billy Carson?

  And, and take claim of what's really yours and find a way, no matter what, to make it work. And I sound, I know for some people that may be suffering, that sounds like, oh, man, this guy doesn't know what we're going through. He doesn't understand. Well, maybe I don't particularly know exactly what you are going through. But what I do see from where I came from, I go back to those old neighborhoods sometimes just to ride through and just experience what happened. So I can remember, never get back to this. Right. And so many of them people are gone and they're in caskets, they're in prison. A few of them are shot, you know, they're, they got bullet wounds. A couple of my friends are paralyzed for life. Um, you know, all these things and you're looking around like, and they're still there. I have relatives still in that same exact neighborhood. And I'm going, why are you here? Nah, we can't, we can't, you know, we can't get out. There's nothing we can do.

• 52:26Billy Carson?

  There was this, it's this mindset of acceptance of the current situation versus a mindset of, how can I figure out a way to become better for myself and my family? And to try to even navigate the situation, maybe even try to find a way to escape or get out of the situation. Yes. You know, when we talk about things like, for example, you know, in slavery times, I feel like I'm the slave that, I don't want to call a slave. I'm the free man that never got on the boat. Because I'm gonna die trying. I'm not the one that jumped off in the ocean. I'm not the one that came here and got in a situation. I'm the one that never got on the boat. And sometimes you just have to be the person that breaks that matrix so that reprograms and just finds a way, no matter what, whether it means you get reincarnated to the next level or not. Uh, that's just my, my mindset. But I think a lot of people, they just succumb to the situation and they, they lose hope.

• 53:12Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, and there's, I mean, I guess there's a price you pay for any decision you make.

• 53:14Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 53:15Lewis Howes?

  Right? Like, there's a, there's a consequence and there's a benefit to any decision you might make.

• 53:19Billy Carson?

  It's a pool of cause and effect. Every, every decision you make is gonna have a consequence, whether it's a good consequence or a bad consequence, but there will be a consequence.

• 53:26Lewis Howes?

  A hundred percent.

• 53:27Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 53:29Lewis Howes?

  So, we've got these, I'm just kinda walking through these steps right now. Forgive yourself, speak positive affirmations, and, and really own that you are the architect, architect of your life. Is there any other steps that you would add to this to, you know, having a formula for manifestation?

• 53:47Billy Carson?

  Well, the next step is, you know, you, you've gotta have the conscious thought of what you want to manifest. And you have to be very specific. A lot of people are very ambiguous with what they wanna bring into their reality. Like, a guy came to me one time and he said he wanted, you know, he needed a new car. And I said, "Well, what kinda car do you want?" "Oh, something around twenty, twenty-five thousand." But that's not a new, you, you tell me nothing. And so if you're telling me nothing, you tell the universe absolutely nothing. Right? So I said, "You need to go, go to a, a car dealer, test drive the car, find one within your budget, find one you like, learn the color, the make, the model, the, you know, the wheels, are they alloy, are they steel? What kind of exhaust? You know, what kind of a stereo system does it have? Does it connect to aux or does it have Bluetooth? Are you need, you need to know all these things. Is it pleather, leather, right? Is it, you know, whatever it is, understand and know this car as if it's yours already, because it is yours.

• 54:32Billy Carson?

  I said, "The next thing you do is you're gonna meditate on this car." You're not gonna meditate after you're trying to get the car. You're gonna meditate as if you own the car. So in this meditation, you're actually driving the car. You feel the keys in your hands. You put them in the ignition, you turn the ignition on. If it's a start button, you push that button. You drive it to your friend's house, you drive it to your family's house, it, within the meditation. And you show off your brand-new car to them. "Hey, look, you wanna go for a ride around the block in my new car?" You pull up back to your house or your apartment, wherever you live, and you get out of the car, you lock it. And you go in the house and you look out of the window and look back at the car, because it's your car. And then what's gonna happen is the universe is gonna start to collaborate with you.

• 55:14Billy Carson?

  Opportunities are gonna be begin to present themselves to give you the opportunity to get the money that you need to come down with a down payment, to make the payment on the car and everything else. But you have to see those opportunities because windows open and doors open, but they also close. And the biggest part about not manifesting or losing the manifestation opportunity is not recognizing the things that will lead to the end result. Just kinda waiting for the end result to appear magically. No, there's steps to take. There's, are the goals to set, action steps to take, recognition of collaboration opportunities, recognition of someone who's gonna lead you to this person that will lead you to this goal to get you to what you need to put down this car. So it's just now this awareness takes place as you flow and vibe with the universe. And then before you know it, that car's in your driveway.

• 55:58Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 55:58Billy Carson?

  And I've got so many dozens of people that have contacted me through my manifestation workshops that I've done, and they send me the pictures of their cars and their houses and everything else that they've been able to manifest, and not just material things. Send me pictures of you smiling and having a great time with the family, having a good time, stress-free life, right? Going places, traveling, living your dreams.

• 56:18Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 56:18Billy Carson?

  Not just, you know, material things.

• 56:20Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, and I think a lot of people think about abundance in the external world, but they'll, they don't work on the abundance in the inner world.

• 56:27Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 56:27Lewis Howes?

  In which everything is the inner game.

• 56:29Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 56:30Lewis Howes?

  This world is about mastering the inner world first. And the more that we master it, and I don't know if we ever fully master the inner world that has 13.5 billion bits of information of the history of the world. I mean, it's like so much to master, but the more we can understand, again,

• 56:48Lewis Howes?

  be on a healing journey of our past, and at least accepting and forgiving those things, right? To clear space energetically throughout our body and our mind's consciousness.

• 56:56Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 56:57Lewis Howes?

  The more we can start reprogramming ourselves to speak positively, whether it be affirmations or just conscious words into the world.

• 57:09Lewis Howes?

  The more we can have powerful intentions with our actions to being consistent with those actions to get us out of the place where we feel stuck or trapped into a new field of possibility.

• 57:19Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 57:20Lewis Howes?

  And visualizing this end result, you talk about meditating on it consistently. This entire journey together of working on the inner world and seeing what we want to come to reality, I feel like that's when you collapse time and you manifest faster. But if you're just thinking, I need more, I want more, you know, I only, I'm only working external as opposed to internal.

• 57:40Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 57:41Lewis Howes?

  It's gonna be stressful, it's gonna be harder, it's gonna take longer, you might still get it, it's just gonna take more time.

• 57:46Billy Carson?

  Yeah, you're not going in the flow, you know, like that famous scene in Doctor Strange, where the master, she says, you can't beat a river into submission, you have to take its energy and flow as your own, as its own, so you kind of go with the flow of the river, you know, kind of a, a break of the quote there, but it's similar.

• 58:03Lewis Howes?

  Right, yeah.

• 58:04Billy Carson?

  But what she's saying is, you know, you, you can't beat it into submission. And this, this universe is a flow, an energetic flow, and you just gotta get on the same frequency of what you're trying to attract. When you begin to realize you're bringing everything towards you, you're collapsing realities into existence versus chasing things, it becomes so much easier.

• 58:23Lewis Howes?

  When someone has a mindset of I'm chasing after my goal versus attracting it, what happens?

• 58:29Billy Carson?

  Well, what happens is you find that there's so many other, so many more obstacles that appear or pop up, things that hinder you, also so many more distractions arise. But when you realize that you're here to attract the goal, attract those benchmarks, attract those that happiness into your life, you then take a journey to inner space. And when you're working within yourself, you're clearing space, you're doing shadow work, you're doing forgiveness, you're speaking affirmations, you're, you're, you're, you know, you're, you're writing things down, you're preparing, you're planning, it's all in here, everything happens here first. Nothing manifests on the outside without conscious thoughts. So if, for example, just this table, right? Somebody thought about, like, it'd be nice to have a round table so people can have a

• 59:13Billy Carson?

  discussion and sit and cross with each other and talk. So this person saw this table in his multi-dimensional platform. He then collapsed it from multiple dimensions into two dimensions by drawing it on a piece of paper or putting it into a computer, computer-assisted design. It's still 2D, even though it looks 3D. From there, once he gets it exactly like he wants it, he sends that instruction, that blueprint, that architecture, right, over to an engineer who then manifests it to three-dimensional reality that can move around on the X, Y, Z axis. And now we have this table here. But what we're doing when we're looking at this table and sitting at it, we're looking at a multi-dimensional thought that existed in someone's mind.

• 59:49Lewis Howes?

  Isn't that powerful?

• 59:50Billy Carson?

  That's powerful, and we all have that power. So when people say, I don't know what this guy's talking about manifesting reality, well, there would be nothing here. This jacket, this table, right, your watch, your bracelet, nothing would exist. This chair we're sitting in wouldn't even be here because these are all things that are manifested from conscious thought. So we're creating reality every single day and we don't even realize it. We're taking it for granted.

• 1:00:11Lewis Howes?

  It's amazing.

• 1:00:13Billy Carson?

  Yeah. It's powerful.

• 1:00:15Lewis Howes?

  Amazing. Is there any other elements to this process that you would add?

• 1:00:18Billy Carson?

  I would just add follow-through, you know? You got to follow-through. Sometimes people are trying to get a little tired towards the end and they're like, well, it didn't happen this last four or five weeks. I'm gonna stop saying my affirmations. Just keep going, man. Just keep, stay in the system. Keep working on yourself. Keep, keep, keep the positive affirmations going. Keep being of service to others. You know, keep being the light of the world. Keep working on yourself and keep taking action steps towards your goal.

• 1:00:45Lewis Howes?

  And I would say, you know, just to add to that, and maybe, maybe it's the last thing, and you probably already have this in your process as well, is when you receive, really express gratitude.

• 1:00:54Billy Carson?

  Oh, it is so important.

• 1:00:55Lewis Howes?

  When, when you get a baby step in progress.

• 1:00:58Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:59Lewis Howes?

  I'm so grateful for this process and the progress that I'm making every single day, even though it doesn't feel like a lot, I know it's so much farther than where I once was.

• 1:01:07Billy Carson?

  Absolutely.

• 1:01:08Lewis Howes?

  And, and being grateful for how far you're coming.

• 1:01:10Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:01:11Lewis Howes?

  It's, it's never gonna feel like it's happening fast enough.

• 1:01:13Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:14Lewis Howes?

  It's never, you always be like, I wish that could happen faster, right? And I think you're just resisting the flow. Like you said, when you're ungrateful for the growth.

• 1:01:21Billy Carson?

  Yes, because the growth is there.

• 1:01:23Lewis Howes?

  And even a setback is growth.

• 1:01:25Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:26Lewis Howes?

  If you're taking consistent action. You might have to break certain patterns and you might have to like... Disconnect with certain people or leave a job or you might lose money or opportunities at first to then move forward and it might feel like, oh, this is even harder now.

• 1:01:39Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:40Lewis Howes?

  But know that if you're taking the actions, that setback might be the ultimate growth that you needed.

• 1:01:44Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:45Lewis Howes?

  And so when you gain, you're consistent with your word on a daily basis and you are your word consistently with what your actions are going to be and you do it, you follow through, like you said.

• 1:01:56Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:57Lewis Howes?

  Receive the gratitude, receive the fruits of the consistent.

• 1:02:01Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:02:01Lewis Howes?

  That you've been doing on a daily basis. If you're like, I'm wanting to write a book and I'm writing one page a day. Okay, receive that I took action. I did this step today.

• 1:02:11Billy Carson?

  Yep.

• 1:02:11Lewis Howes?

  And receive that gratitude.

• 1:02:13Billy Carson?

  Absolute gratitude is so important. I did a whole series of gratitude, which actually was on Amazon Prime before. And a lot of people will say, you know, thank you. But did you feel that thank you? Did you really emote and feel the energy of that gratitude within the thank you? Somebody could hand me a cup, you know, a bottle of water and I say, oh, thanks, man, you know. But did I really feel that thanks? Did I really get the gratitude out, the emotion? So I started trying to connect with thank you, connect with thanking myself, connect with the agreement that I've achieved something in my life and accepting that gratitude, but really feeling, allowing myself to feel the emotion of that gratitude, because that's where the real power is at.

• 1:02:51Lewis Howes?

  Man, that's good, man. I love this a lot. This stuff is powerful for me.

• 1:02:58Lewis Howes?

  There's a question I want to ask you about time. What is time and is it an illusion?

• 1:03:03Billy Carson?

  Time is actually an illusion. Now, we have the arrow of time here in the third dimension because we needed to navigate through this realm. Without it, we'd be completely lost. I would never have been able to rendezvous with you, right here to have this podcast on this particular timeline. But multiple timelines exist. So we've somehow in this particular frequency that we're in, we've collapsed this particular timeline, but according to quantum physics, there are unlimited timelines.

• 1:03:29Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 1:03:30Billy Carson?

  Timelines where you and I aren't even sitting here. You're doing something and I'm doing something, right? We're doing something totally different.

• 1:03:35Lewis Howes?

  In this moment.

• 1:03:35Billy Carson?

  In this exact moment. Timelines where we never met in the, you know, through our entire lives. Timelines where we could have been next door neighbors. I mean, anything you can conceive in the mind actually happened. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the superposition and probability of the universe. How did it actually, how did it already happen, though? Well, there's so many multiple times, unlimited timelines. And so it's this, in, in science, they discovered that every potential outcome actually happens, which is wild. How does it happen? How do they, how does science discover that or claim that to be? In the quantum world, when they looked into the quantum world, the subatomic, when you go down to the tiniest, tiniest area, realm that we can get access to and start learning, we realized this incredible superposition that exists. Where waves of everything that exists in the universe is a wave.

• 1:04:20Billy Carson?

  Your house exists as a wave of potentials. You're not there, you're not looking at it, it's not a solid structure. It's a wave. If somebody else is looking at it, it collapsed into the structure. Now, why, why does it collapse into the same structure that you know? Well, the atoms were stacked like Lego blocks to build what we call your house. And they're on a resonant frequency. So no matter who looks at it, that consciousness collapses it back into the same structure. But when you're not looking at it, it doesn't exist. We found that through science, um, specifically due to work of Professor Sylvester James Gates, Jr. From the University of Maryland, former scientific advisor to President Obama. Him and a team of mathematics geniuses got together and discovered that the, the universe is running off of something called a Dinkra codes. Dinkra? A Dinkra, a Dinkra.

• 1:05:05Billy Carson?

  A Dinkra codes. A Dinkra codes. And these A Dinkra codes are the exact error correcting codes that run search engines and web browsers. Torsad. Yes. Wow. So we're living in a creation. We are living inside of a creation. The method of creation, in my opinion, is a fractal holographic universe. And that it's running on a particular code. And this code are, some of these codes are called A Dinkra codes that direct the fabric of space time itself. And this is incredible knowledge to have because it shows you that, yes, all the ancients were right. The biblical texts, the Quran, and all the ancients from thousands of years prior to them, we're living inside of a creation. What is the method? Is this now time was given to us as a gift to direct us and give us this opportunity to collaborate within our field. But if you travel in future, right?

• 1:05:49Billy Carson?

  If you, if you travel into the future, you stay on the same timeline. We know this because people travel to the future every single day, believe it or not. When you get on an airplane and I'm standing on the ground and you're traveling in an airplane away from me, you're moving slight microns in the atomic world into the future because of the speed you're moving away from me. People who have traveled to the International Space Station, they've traveled into the future. So we know that in the future, same timeline. But we have the grandfather paradox where we try to travel back in time. In other words, if I travel back in time and kill my grandfather, how was I even born in the first place? That's in science. Well, that's because when you travel back in time, you shift frequencies into a different timeline. So you're not killing the grandfather from the timeline you were on.

• 1:06:35Billy Carson?

  You're killing the grandfather from a timeline that you never existed on.

• 1:06:38Lewis Howes?

  Right. You couldn't even go back there, I guess.

• 1:06:40Billy Carson?

  Exactly. So getting back to your real timeline is now going to be virtually impossible. And there's been so many shows that have shown this with like Flash and many others, trying to find how to get back. How do I get back to mine? I think Flash never got back to his timeline in the TV series, right? But it's based on real science.

• 1:06:54Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:06:54Billy Carson?

  So time is something incredible because time is also malleable and bendable. So we know that time can bend through something called a wormhole. We know that there's something called an Einstein Rosen bridge. Einstein and Rosen got together and came up with this theory of black holes and stable wormholes. And that space can be bent. And instead of traveling in a straight line to get to a destination, you can travel through curved space.

• 1:07:16Lewis Howes?

  It's crazy.

• 1:07:17Billy Carson?

  So time is malleable, it's bendable. And it's really crazy when you really understand like, wow, time is really an illusion. Clocks exist, but time doesn't exist. And it's hard to wrap, so if somebody wrapped their mind around it, because we're here in the third dimension and we have to have this time. But in any dimension above three, there is no time. Like I said earlier, the past, present and future happen all at once.

• 1:07:42Lewis Howes?

  So how do we bend time to manifest our dreams faster?

• 1:07:47Billy Carson?

  Oh, that's through conscious thought. The incredible thing they found out, and the CIA found this out with the hemisync technique. It's a, it's a form of manifestation through conscious thought and focusing a beam of conscious thought to create a reality or to find out information.

• 1:08:01Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 1:08:02Billy Carson?

  Yes, yeah. And through this, they discovered that the mind travels outside of space and time. So you can send your mind outside of space and time. Also, remote viewers use the same exact technique. They could send their mind out of space, outside of space and time. They can travel to the past to gather intel. This is also a CIA project called Project Stargate. You can look that up on Wikipedia.

• 1:08:23Lewis Howes?

  Heard of that, yeah.

• 1:08:23Billy Carson?

  Right? And so when through this process of remote viewing, they can send their mind to the future, they can send their mind to the current, or they can send their mind even to the past. So the mind itself can break through that barrier, that invisible barrier that we believe exists of space and time. And it can go anywhere within a known universe, possibly within a known multiverse.

• 1:08:44Lewis Howes?

  So when we're thinking a thought,

• 1:08:48Lewis Howes?

  who is thinking that thought? Where does thought come from?

• 1:08:53Lewis Howes?

  How does that process work?

• 1:08:54Billy Carson?

  There's a couple of processes with thoughts now. Of course, and two neurons are very close together. You create a synapse and the, the electrical charge jumps from one to the next, creating this thought, right? Where does that spark even come from? Well, we know that we're human batteries and the energy is inside of us. But also, what is that thought? Now, if it's an idea, sometimes we think we get a brand new idea. We got an invention. Well, how come inventions sometimes happen sporadically around the world almost at the same time? It's because the information already exists in the ether. There's nothing new under the sun. That's in Ecclesiastes, right? There's nothing new under the sun. It's a real statement. Because everything that we are now creating or inventing or discovering, in my opinion, already existed, or someone already had the thought for it.

• 1:09:39Billy Carson?

  And so what happens is-

• 1:09:40Lewis Howes?

  The data is already out in the world.

• 1:09:41Billy Carson?

  The data is, remember I saw you, the thoughts leave your skull. Scientists recently discovered that we can quantum entangle with the field, with energy or information in the field. So if someone thought of this, there's a possibility that I can get on that same frequency and I can get that into my mind. And if I have the ability to discern that thought or that information, I can act on it.

• 1:10:02Lewis Howes?

  And alchemize it, right?

• 1:10:03Billy Carson?

  Exactly. And all of a sudden, boom, here it is. You might get the same frequency, I might get the same frequency, but I might not discern it. So it becomes your thought. And we think it's your original thought. Sometimes it's not your original thought.

• 1:10:15Lewis Howes?

  So it could be a thousand people that said, oh, I had that same idea. I just didn't actualize it.

• 1:10:19Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 1:10:20Lewis Howes?

  Action on it.

• 1:10:21Billy Carson?

  And they found something else interesting in science that. But the time that we're experiencing right now is we're talking back and forth and having this discussion. We appear to be in real time. We're not in real time. We're about seven seconds in the past by the time I'm looking at you and responding to you and making my gestures and you're talking back to me. So they did this experiment where they discovered that a person is not living in real time. So they connected a person to a EEG cap and they also had them in a room with a computer screen. Or television screen and they were showing different images on the screen so they can capture. What the process of the brain is when it sees something like something peaceful, like a bed of flowers. Or somebody in stress or struggle.

• 1:11:04Billy Carson?

  Someone in a car accident, all these different things they were shown a war. They were getting the feedback from the brain. What does this, what does the brain respond to? What does it look like on the computer? By accident, they discovered something amazing. That after a while, the brain started detecting what the next image would be before it showed up on the screen up to seven seconds in advance.

• 1:11:24Lewis Howes?

  How's that possible?

• 1:11:25Billy Carson?

  Well, these images were being shown 10 seconds apart to give the brain time to reset. And they started noticing this trend. They were like, wait a minute, the brain is picking up what the next image is up to seven seconds in advance. So we're not even in real time. There's something going on that we don't understand that's already happened before we catch up to that exact moment. And then there's another delay behind that because now a photon has to ping off of you and go to my retina and get processed by my brain. So I could figure out what you look like and what you just said. So that's even another delay.

• 1:11:57Lewis Howes?

  You know what's interesting about that? What's coming up for me right now is.

• 1:12:03Lewis Howes?

  Sports, playing sports and there's a great, gosh, what's the quote? I think it's Gretzky, maybe it was like, I'm always where the puck is gonna be or something like that, you know? When I was playing basketball or football, I was never the best athlete on the field, but I always had a sense, like a feeling of like. It's going to be there in that space at this time.

• 1:12:23Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:24Lewis Howes?

  Let me go there. It's almost like I could predict where the ball was going to be thrown.

• 1:12:28Billy Carson?

  That's exactly where I was going with my.

• 1:12:29Lewis Howes?

  Where I needed to pass the ball for the person to get in that space in the next three seconds like. And I I developed that through sports. And I can always see kind of the future.

• 1:12:40Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:12:40Lewis Howes?

  In sports and that skill set of the vision of time and space.

• 1:12:45Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:45Lewis Howes?

  Allowed me to be better in sports.

• 1:12:48Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 1:12:49Lewis Howes?

  And the same thing with business is probably the same thing with your business as well. I see this trend happening. This is, the world is moving into this place. I'm going to be there as well.

• 1:12:59Billy Carson?

  Gotta be there.

• 1:13:00Lewis Howes?

  Let me act like.

• 1:13:00Billy Carson?

  rendezvous.

• 1:13:01Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 1:13:02Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 1:13:02Lewis Howes?

  That's interesting.

• 1:13:02Billy Carson?

  That's exactly what, what makes a great athlete? What makes Michael Jordan better than most of the other athletes? They're practicing just as hard as most of them. I mean, he partied all night long and everything else, right? I mean, he, this guy was, he worked out too. Don't get me wrong. He ain't trained, but man, did this guy. And people are like, man, I'm working twice as hard as Michael Jordan, but I'm not Michael Jordan. Why is that? And how can he get on the court and just slice and dice through the whole team like they don't even exist? Because his seven seconds were probably more like two and a half, three seconds. So like you said, he was closer to real time. And I think the elite athletes and elite businessmen and elite thinkers are closer to real time. Where they're surfing on the wave, right? Everyone is waiting for the wave to crash over them. So when you wait for the rate wave to crash over you, you go, oh, I'm in this moment now.

• 1:13:46Billy Carson?

  But instead of surfing on top of the wave, being closer to the real time that actually does exist. It makes you look godlike. When Michael Jordan is on the court, people slow down. Time, he says, slows down. He's just weaving through these people like they don't even exist. But they're moving as fast as they possibly can. But he's on another level here, right? He's in that zone. That's what that zone is.

• 1:14:05Lewis Howes?

  Flow, the zone.

• 1:14:06Billy Carson?

  Flow, getting closer to real time. Well, they're on seven seconds. I'm gonna get on three seconds. I'm gonna get on two seconds.

• 1:14:12Lewis Howes?

  What do you think that is within someone like a Jordan or someone who's just at the top of their game? Cause Jordan had his own demons. He had, he had traumas. He had challenges. He had conflicts. He had legal stuff happening. He had relationship issues. He had team issues with, whatever it might be. He had stresses in life.

• 1:14:28Billy Carson?

  Sure.

• 1:14:29Lewis Howes?

  Billionaires have challenges.

• 1:14:30Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:31Lewis Howes?

  But what is it that separates people in the top one percent to get in the flow and ride the wave of the frequency on the universe better?

• 1:14:39Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:40Lewis Howes?

  Than everyone else?

• 1:14:41Billy Carson?

  Yeah, and that's a great question. Cause some people say, man, well, this person's this, this, da, da, da, and they've done all this. And how come they can do it better than me? Well, there's just some people that are naturally gifted consciously. The way their mind is set up, the way their brain works, the way their synapses and their frequencies and understanding, the way their perception of themselves is. Like, Michael Jordan is so confident in himself, it's to the point of overcocky, right? But some people see like, this guy's just too on and, you know, he believes he's better than anybody. Hey, I could beat you in golf, I could beat you in table tennis, I'll beat you in, I'll beat you in whatever. I'll beat you in a footrace, I'll beat you in washing dishes.

• 1:15:11Lewis Howes?

  That's a belief.

• 1:15:12Billy Carson?

  That's his belief.

• 1:15:13Lewis Howes?

  It gets him the results.

• 1:15:14Billy Carson?

  It gets him the results. But see, that mindset he has, and some people see as egotistical, it's what allowed him to be a master manifestor in the realm of sports.

• 1:15:23Lewis Howes?

  Belief.

• 1:15:24Billy Carson?

  Yes. The pure, unadulterated, unequivocal, unshakable belief within his own self. Not anything on the outside, within himself.

• 1:15:34Lewis Howes?

  There's a story, um, I was in eighth grade and, uh, the high school, there was this senior who was the most gifted athlete I've ever seen, playing basketball.

• 1:15:43Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:43Lewis Howes?

  And I would play with the upperclassmen sometime, it's in eighth grade, cause I was six-four.

• 1:15:47Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:15:48Lewis Howes?

  And I was, you know, more talented than eighth graders at the time, so they would let me practice with them sometimes. They were better than me, but this one guy was a freak athlete, like, he was, he looked godlike.

• 1:15:58Billy Carson?

  Right, right.

• 1:15:59Lewis Howes?

  Chiseled, you're like, perfect body.

• 1:16:01Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:02Lewis Howes?

  Jumped forty-four inches, three sixty dunk it in practice, like effortless, so smooth. But in the game was average at best. And I never understood it.

• 1:16:11Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:12Lewis Howes?

  And I would ask people later, I was like, what was it about him? Cause when he practiced, it was unstoppable, like, and he could just do anything he wanted. And they said he had a lot of self-doubt.

• 1:16:22Billy Carson?

  That's it.

• 1:16:23Lewis Howes?

  And I was like, I had a fraction of that talent, but I learned how to believe in myself, it got me certain results. And it didn't look as pretty, you know, but I got results, right?

• 1:16:33Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:16:34Lewis Howes?

  And I learned how to believe.

• 1:16:36Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:36Lewis Howes?

  And that's hard.

• 1:16:37Billy Carson?

  It's hard for a lot of people, to really, truly believe in yourself. You have to have that to be elite. If you want to be elite in anything, or you want to be the best you can be in anything, that belief has to be there. The second that that doubt creeps in, it's like a virus that begins to take over your subconscious. And then it just, it's like a deck of cards just crumbling. Over a period of time, within that, the exercise of that game or that event or whatever it is you're doing, you begin to feel weaker and weaker, it's like kryptonite, just creeping in on you.

• 1:17:05Lewis Howes?

  And it all starts in your mind.

• 1:17:06Billy Carson?

  It starts in the mind. It's one little doubt after another doubt after another doubt. See, this happened, oh my God, this happened. And the next thing you know, it just crumbles. And you crumble on the inside. On the outside, you look like this Adonis. You look unstoppable, but on the inside, you've crumbled.

• 1:17:19Lewis Howes?

  So how can someone who has a pattern of falling into self sabotage? How can they switch it off?

• 1:17:26Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:26Lewis Howes?

  And get back into self belief?

• 1:17:28Billy Carson?

  The thing that I learned from my wife is pretty interesting. It's taking a rubber band, put it around your wrist, a rubber band. And every time you have one of those ants, those automatic negative thoughts, you snap yourself. Just a little snap. Because it's going to trigger an actual response in the body, a shock in the body that goes to the brain. And you begin to recognize these automatic negative thoughts. You begin then to learn how to check yourself and get back into brain heart coherence. Begin to get back in, get back in rhythm, begin to realize, oh, I was doubting myself. Wait a minute, no, no, no, I got this. You have to build a habit. It's a habit building process and it doesn't happen overnight. It's not going to be instant, but it takes time. But by doing a little snap, over time, you develop this habit of catching yourself and stopping yourself. I'm sorry. And then realizing, oh, wait a minute.

• 1:18:12Billy Carson?

  I do have this, I can do this. I am going to, I am getting better at this. I do have the ability to do this. And then the next thing you know, you become much better and you become more confident. And when the confidence builds, it grows, now you become a master.

• 1:18:25Lewis Howes?

  Wow. Where in your life do you struggle the most right now?

• 1:18:29Billy Carson?

  Ah, right now, I would say I struggle probably in.

• 1:18:34Billy Carson?

  Managing my time with, you know, the family. There's so much going on in the business. And it's always a delicate balance between the family life and the business. You know, I have six kids. The youngest, most of them are all adults, but the youngest one's only 12 now. And to be able to carve out that time and not to keep putting them aside and make sure I stop. I gotta force myself. Now, you gotta pay attention. You gotta be there. You know, and make sure I'm spending the right quality of time with my wife. Make sure that we're not just talking business all the time because we're in business together.

• 1:19:07Lewis Howes?

  There's so many opportunities.

• 1:19:09Billy Carson?

  Yes. You have to have a time where we just say, look, we're not talking business right now. You know, we're gonna, this is our time. And so hard. It's a delicate balance. It really, really is. People may sound like that. It doesn't sound like it's hard at all, but it's very, very difficult to balance. When you're riding a wave and you're trying to capture that wave and maximize everything on it.

• 1:19:27Lewis Howes?

  The momentum.

• 1:19:27Billy Carson?

  The momentum is there. You don't want to lose the momentum. And then at the same time, there's so many projects that we are a part of, other than just it, that one thing. And then to be able to balance that with the family life. And so I'm learning. It's a process. I've gotten a lot better. I've gotten a lot better, but I still have more to go. It's still a developing process within me.

• 1:19:44Lewis Howes?

  What have you learned about yourself through, because you've been, you've been married and divorced, correct?

• 1:19:47Billy Carson?

  Yes, yeah.

• 1:19:48Lewis Howes?

  What have you learned about yourself through intimacy in relationships, marriage, divorce? And your inner world while you're in relationships?

• 1:19:57Billy Carson?

  I've learned that being, being stoic, being secretive or quiet about what you're truly feeling and how you feel about a situation is horrible. One of the worst things you could do. Lack of communication and also poor communication helps to be the detriment to the relationship as well. So even though I had some bad experiences with some exes, I also played a part in that as well. You can't blame everything on everybody else because at the end of the day, you gotta look in the mirror. And a lot of it is communication, suppressing, thinking that the person's thinking one thing and they're not. You know, and I think the biggest thing though is really being able to open up productive conversations. Not just surface level conversations, which is what I had for so many decades.

• 1:20:36Billy Carson?

  But actually real deep intimate conversations, breaking through questions that allow you to know the person at a much deeper, deeper level. And to be able to really open up that, that flower of life, so to speak, and to really be able to get on that same frequency. That's really the key and that's what I've been working on recently. To the point where I'm even building an app that will help other people do this as I've been going through this process as well.

• 1:20:58Lewis Howes?

  That's cool. And you talked about forgiveness as being a powerful first step for people. Is there anything you haven't forgiven yourself for?

• 1:21:06Billy Carson?

  You know, there are, and that sometimes we think we've forgiven ourselves for almost everything. But I had so many traumas in my younger years. There's so many things locked away with inside of me. So I've been doing that inner work, you know, sitting with psychiatrists and, and, you know, and people to, to help pull it back out. Sometimes you need a little bit of help of somebody to help you go through a conversation to pull out. And I forgot that even happened. And that's a trauma that was just cut away, just in a little corner there, in a little nook and cranny. I forgot it was even there. So it's this, it's this process of day by day, gradually taking time to talk, you know, with somebody you can trust, whether it's a therapist, a psychiatrist, your, your second and your better half, to help extract some of this information from you so you can realize, wow, I forgot about this.

• 1:21:50Billy Carson?

  I gotta go, I gotta deal with this, you know? And we were born with so much trauma, we don't believe it. Even just getting smacked on the butt coming out of the womb, that's trauma.

• 1:21:57Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 1:21:58Billy Carson?

  Right? So we come into the world with trauma. And there's so many things that happened back in the day. My, my mind like just locked a lot of it away in a, in a safe and put it to the side. So I could cope and deal with real life and be able to do what I have to do. Because if I was focusing on that, I'd be, I'd be completely distraught and distracted. But so it's this unlocking of this, this safe box and taking these dark things out and really beginning to address them over, over time. So, you know, still working on it, man.

• 1:22:24Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:22:24Billy Carson?

  It's a process.

• 1:22:24Lewis Howes?

  For someone that says, why even bring up the past? You know, why relive these traumas? Like if they're not, if they're, you, you can block them or sweep them under the rug or you can compartmentalize, they're not really affecting me. What would you say to someone who thinks in an analytical way?

• 1:22:40Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:40Lewis Howes?

  That says, it's not worth it for me to open back the past of traumas and address them or just talk to someone about them.

• 1:22:46Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:47Lewis Howes?

  What's the real value? I'm going to feel more stress and worry and.

• 1:22:50Billy Carson?

  Well, initially, you will feel a little bit more stressed as you bring that back up. You'll feel that emotion, but you'll be able to process the emotion. See, scientists, doctors have found out that that hidden stress, that trauma in the body that you haven't addressed and processed is what gives you the dis-ease. The dis-ease becomes disease, and then you end up pushing up daisies.

• 1:23:10Lewis Howes?

  Daisies? What's that?

• 1:23:11Billy Carson?

  That's when you're buried in the ground and the flowers grow on top of you.

• 1:23:14Lewis Howes?

  You die.

• 1:23:14Billy Carson?

  You die.

• 1:23:15Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:23:16Billy Carson?

  It's the number one cause of cancer, you know? Is these traumas that are hidden within us that we've hide and hidden away, these body pains, these back aches. You know, all these sore joints sometimes. Sometimes a lot of that is just the trauma that's hidden within our body. Also, the hindrance of the trauma. Some people can't see that it's hindered them. It might not have hindered them financially, but it might be billionaires, it might be multimillionaires. That's okay, but some people has hindered them in that area, but some it hasn't. But other areas are suffering. Relationships with their family, relationships with people. You know, it could be all different things that are happening, that are going on, that you don't connect to the trauma, but the trauma is like an umbilical cord linked to everything going on in your reality.

• 1:23:56Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:23:57Billy Carson?

  And until you really deal with it and do the shadow work, um, and begin to work and process some of these things, you're never gonna become the true higher self that you're capable of being.

• 1:24:07Lewis Howes?

  So how much do our emotions play a part in our life? Because some people have, uh, really exciting emotions, other people have stressed out emotions, worry, fear emotions. Where do these emotions stem from? Is it from an interpretation of things and how we feel? And then we feel them throughout the body, but how much do these emotions impact our life?

• 1:24:28Billy Carson?

  Emotions are huge, and they, they influence almost every decision we make. I mean, people live on emotion. The stock market runs off of emotion. The stock market is on a logic. Logic is not anywhere near the stock market.

• 1:24:40Lewis Howes?

  Right, right, exactly.

• 1:24:41Billy Carson?

  Exactly, it's all based on emotion. So you have to judge the emotion of the people, which when you make your call, you're put on the stock options, right? Otherwise, you have to read those emotions so you can make money.

• 1:24:50Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:50Billy Carson?

  People that make a living doing that. So we understand emotions are huge. And the thing about emotions is, you know, they start in the subconscious, and then they come out and we emote them, right? We push them out to the outside. And the effect of emotions are several ways. One emotion, one thing about emotions, if you're in a, in a distraught state, a frequency of anger, disgust, despair.

• 1:25:14Billy Carson?

  The biofield that's whipping out of your chest from your heart, the electromagnetic field, which we know happens, it's also carrying that cortisol with it. Twenty feet away, eight to twenty feet away. I'm sitting here with you right now. If I'm in a stress state, my field, yeah, you're gonna feel it, literally, because your field and my field are gonna intertwine. And the cortisol hormones that are leaving my body on that field, that you can't even see with your eye, are gonna increase your cortisol level and make you feel more stressed without even knowing it. And also, by the other, by another means, if I'm in a very high-frequency vibrant and you're in a low-frequency, I have the capability of raising your frequency to a higher frequency, making you feel better. Then when somebody says, you know, that person walked in a room and lit the room up, that's a real, a true statement.

• 1:25:58Lewis Howes?

  Their light radiated from their heart.

• 1:26:00Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:26:00Lewis Howes?

  And it impacted everyone else.

• 1:26:02Billy Carson?

  Facts. Scientific, and where did I learn this? When I took classes at MIT for applied neuroscience with Dr. Tara Swart.

• 1:26:09Lewis Howes?

  I know Dr. Tara Swart, she's great. I've known her.

• 1:26:12Billy Carson?

  Beautiful lady, yeah. Incredible. That was my professor at MIT.

• 1:26:15Lewis Howes?

  Ah, that's cool.

• 1:26:16Billy Carson?

  Yeah. I did podcasts with her and everything. That is what she taught us. And I was like, this is not just like metaphysical stuff, it's real, actual, physical stuff. It's really happening. These interactions are happening. So, understanding your emotions, but also, some people think to suppress emotions, that's also bad. It's better to feel that anger, feel that frustration, feel that pain, process it, don't stay there. But if you hide it or suppress it, which is what I'm guilty of doing for many, many decades, it becomes a problem within the body. I hid and oppressed and suppressed so many emotions, I was so stoic, I was almost like a robot. Where, yes. There's videos of me going back, you know, I don't know, a decade, where I'm just like a stiff robot. I mean, I'm telling you, I was like, and when people started seeing me laugh within

• 1:27:00Billy Carson?

  the last four years, and dance and act crazy and just be like free, they're like, they stole Billy, they, he's a clone.

• 1:27:09Billy Carson?

  Hey, they say, this ain't the same person. Like, what happened to him? I was so stiff.

• 1:27:14Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:27:14Billy Carson?

  I finally, just in four years since I met my wife Elizabeth, was able to finally, she's the one who helped me discover this, to free myself and to feel emotions and to process the emotions and then to live life. Don't stay in the emotion. Process it, let it flow through your body and come to terms with that and then live your life.

• 1:27:32Lewis Howes?

  So what I'm hearing you say, it sounds to me that your emotions impact your energy and your energy dictates your life.

• 1:27:41Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:27:42Lewis Howes?

  If you walk into any room, whether it's with your family member or a lover, potential business partner, your team, whatever it might be, and you show up with an energy where your emotion has impacted your energy to be at a lower frequency, you're essentially going to bring the energy down.

• 1:27:59Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:28:00Lewis Howes?

  And if you shift your emotion to raise your energy, your frequency will be higher in every situation.

• 1:28:08Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:09Lewis Howes?

  So it sounds like it's a skill into not allowing emotion to impact your energy and pull you down. It's learning to shift that emotion quicker. If you need to get it out because something challenging has happened, get it out, but then shifting it so you don't stay in a lower energetic state consistently.

• 1:28:29Billy Carson?

  Correct.

• 1:28:29Lewis Howes?

  Is that correct?

• 1:28:30Billy Carson?

  Yes, and the easy way to shift it is to think of something that makes you extremely happy. Think of a great moment in your life. Everyone has at least one great moment in their life. Focus on that, like sit and meditate, take 10 deep breaths and focus on that great, great, great thing. Something, the best experience you've ever had in whatever it was. And right away, your body will begin to normalize. Your heart rate and your pulse and everything will begin to normalize and you'll get back into brain-heart coherence.

• 1:28:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, this is why meditation has become so popular in the last five to 10 years because it is a simple tool of just breathing, even for one minute.

• 1:29:01Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:02Lewis Howes?

  Where you will get into brain and heart coherence through breath and slowing down the breath and realigning the nervous system to harmony and peace.

• 1:29:14Lewis Howes?

  And if you can practice that, if you're feeling overwhelmed and stressed, but you can practice that throughout the day before getting into conversations, before you show up at your work, before you come home to see your spouse, whatever it might be, before you see your kids, you're going to bring a different energy, and therefore a different frequency to that moment in time. What is the difference between then a frequency of vibration and emotions?

• 1:29:43Billy Carson?

  Well, it's all really along, it's a way of describing the same thing, right? Because it's all frequency. The vibration is actually a frequency, and the frequency is actually a vibration. Because when something is a frequency, it's ondulating, and that ondulation is an actual vibration. And the emotion itself is sending out a frequency which is actually a vibration. So it's all three, the same exact thing.

• 1:30:05Lewis Howes?

  What is the highest level of frequency that a human can express?

• 1:30:09Billy Carson?

  Well, there's no way to really measure that, although we do know that by putting an EEG cap on a person's skull, and having them in several different states of mind, we can see on the screen oscillation waves, right? So if somebody's in a distressed state, a sad state, if you're looking at an image on the screen that's extremely sad, like a war-torn country or something like that, we'll see this very slow, wide oscillation, high and low troughs, very spaced out. That's a low frequency. Scientifically, we're seeing the frequency.

• 1:30:40Lewis Howes?

  A taller wave.

• 1:30:41Billy Carson?

  Yes, a taller wave, but spread out, like more distance between the height and the trough.

• 1:30:45Lewis Howes?

  Okay, spread out.

• 1:30:46Billy Carson?

  Spread out. And now, in a higher frequency, somebody's happy, excited, enthusiastic. We then see the waves like this. So the height and the trough and the space in between is much closer. And that means they're in a high-frequency state. So we can literally see this on a computer screen. So when we talk about getting to a higher vibration, it's not just metaphysical words, it's a real scientific thing, a real state of being in this reality, in your real body. It's not just some woo-woo stuff, it's real.

• 1:31:14Lewis Howes?

  So would that state be joy, love, excitement, passion, adventure, curiosity? Would that be more of the higher frequency state?

• 1:31:23Billy Carson?

  All high frequency, happiness, yeah.

• 1:31:25Lewis Howes?

  So when you were, you know, a decade ago, when you were more robotic,

• 1:31:28Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:28Lewis Howes?

  in your words, and I guess analytical and stoic.

• 1:31:31Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:31Lewis Howes?

  Were you allowing yourself to express the highest frequencies possible?

• 1:31:35Billy Carson?

  I was not. I was stuck right in the middle. I would get to the gray area and just, you know, I wasn't, I was, um, for some reason I had started to put myself into this compartment where I was compartmentalizing so much and I wasn't allowing myself to express myself at the highest level.

• 1:31:49Lewis Howes?

  Why?

• 1:31:50Billy Carson?

  Um, I don't know. It just gradually, it happened over time and I became more reclusive and more reclusive. I was, I kind of do know why. I think it was this relationship that I was in. It was a very, a very bad one. I mean, I was a super psychopathic narcissist, you know, and, um, it was, everything was my fault. Everything, everything, everything, everything, you know? And, uh, it was just a lot of drama.

• 1:32:13Lewis Howes?

  You have to numb yourself out.

• 1:32:14Billy Carson?

  I numbed myself.

• 1:32:15Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:15Billy Carson?

  I numbed myself significantly.

• 1:32:17Lewis Howes?

  I know that feeling.

• 1:32:18Billy Carson?

  And I got myself so numb to where it became kind of the norm. And then over time, even after I was out of that, I did that for 20 years, by the way, with that one person. And when I got out of it, I had trained myself to be in that kind of numb situation, that box that I put myself in. And I found out that it was really hard to break out. I would get into other relationships and things, but I would only get myself up to here. And then I would just reach this limit and I would like suppress getting out and being my true, full, real self.

• 1:32:45Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:32:46Billy Carson?

  And then it took somebody like, I guess, I can't give them the credit, my wife broke me open out of that thing, you know? And then, and get, allowed me to express and feel myself and allowed me to feel vulnerable again.

• 1:32:57Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:32:58Billy Carson?

  And to be happy and to be jovial and make jokes and fun. And now I'm like the life of the party everywhere I go, you know?

• 1:33:04Lewis Howes?

  Well, the, the child Billy came out.

• 1:33:05Billy Carson?

  Yes. Yeah. And it had been hidden away and locked in a box.

• 1:33:09Lewis Howes?

  What's the thing you love about your wife the most?

• 1:33:11Billy Carson?

  I just love the fact that she is just so caring and giving, you know? Every single day when I wake up, I know that she's looking out for my best interests. She's making sure I take all my supplements and my vitamins, because if I don't see them out of sight, out of mind, it's not going to happen, you know? Making sure I exercise all the time. And, you know, she's a little younger than me, so it's important that I stay physically fit and stay in shape to some degree. She doesn't want to become a caregiver, you know?

• 1:33:36Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:33:36Billy Carson?

  But she's always looking out for me, not only through physically, but also mentally. How are you? How are you doing? Let's sit down and talk. Let's ask you so there's some deep questions here. Let's get to this, you know, this level where we're on the same frequency and I can see if there's any way I can better serve you or you can better serve me. What things are you going through right now that I can help you with? What things am I going through, you know? And having these deeper conversations, these very intimate conversations to allow ourselves to really express to one another and talk to one another, conversate with one another, but also allowing ourselves to learn how we can be better with one another.

• 1:34:08Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:34:08Billy Carson?

  And I've never had that before, ever.

• 1:34:10Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:34:10Billy Carson?

  I've never even heard those words in my entire life in relationships.

• 1:34:14Lewis Howes?

  Me too, man.

• 1:34:15Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:15Lewis Howes?

  It's a blessing.

• 1:34:16Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:17Lewis Howes?

  Something to receive and be grateful for every day.

• 1:34:20Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:21Lewis Howes?

  Of all the ancient wisdom that you've studied and researched and gone down, you know, rabbit holes for decades on this, what is the ancient truth or wisdom that most people don't know about?

• 1:34:34Billy Carson?

  Hmm.

• 1:34:34Lewis Howes?

  That you think is the most powerful thing we should be aware of?

• 1:34:38Billy Carson?

  Well, I believe that there was a lot of battles and wars in the ancient times. These wars are spoken about in the ancient Sumerian tablets. They're written in cuneiform. They're in the cylinder scrolls. They're in the Mahabharata Indian texts. They're in the Indian Vedas. The Rig Veda specifically, the Battle of the Ten Kings. They made, they worked their way into a lot of the ancient texts, even the indigenous natives of Americas, the Tarot Papers. All these documents are showing that at one time, there was a high level of culture, even the two from ancient Khemmit, before it was called Egypt. There were these wars, these wars of the quote-unquote gods, so these high-level beings that were in some way, shape, or form, creating these situations on this planet where there was a lot of turmoil.

• 1:35:21Billy Carson?

  Everyone wanted to dominate and take over someone else. Those wars made it into a biblical text, made it into Quran and everything else. So they're, they're well-known wars that happened. The thing that I want people to know they don't realize is, we don't have to be like that. That we're just, we just continue to copy what's happened to us, what's happened in the ancient past. That we are just reciprocating and going through this cycle of up and down, this yoga cycle of recreating these same traumatic situations on this planet. And that if we really look at the past and really analyze it through a, through a magnifying glass and learn from it, say to ourselves, this is what's been going on for eons. How do we now stop this from happening in the future?

• 1:36:04Billy Carson?

  Because ultimately, there's probably been, based on my research, at least four golden ages on this planet. Ages where there was peace and tranquility and no war. And then something happens and it collapses and goes back around the cycle again. And right now, I think that we're in the, we're in the tetra yoga, which is like the silver age, heading back towards the golden age. We're at the very, very beginning of the silver, we're thousands of years away, but the very beginning.

• 1:36:26Lewis Howes?

  Thousands of years away.

• 1:36:27Billy Carson?

  Yeah. It's called the great year, so it's a long time. But we're in the stage right now, a stage of awakening, enlightenment, the age of information, where a lot of people are really beginning to ask more questions. So we're in the very vulnerable process of learning right now. And if we can understand what happened in the past and understand the past is prologue, we can prevent a damned or doomed future for our future generations. And every time I researched these yoga cycles and this rise and fall of civilizations, which are also talked about in the animal tablets, I began to realize something, there's not one text anywhere, and I've gone through thousands of texts, that says that this cycle has to happen. The ultimate goal, I believe, or the ultimate test or experiment that's going on, this grand experiment is,

• 1:37:09Billy Carson?

  can we now be the ones that make it to a golden age and sustain it? And how many other civilizations out there in the known universe have reached that sustained golden age, and how many have continued to collapse and go back through the cycle?

• 1:37:22Lewis Howes?

  Wow. What do you think is keeping humanity from living in peace?

• 1:37:27Billy Carson?

  The main thing from living in peace is the ego. The ego, the ability to want to dominate others, to put the boot on the neck of others, to, to control others.

• 1:37:36Lewis Howes?

  Why do people want that?

• 1:37:37Billy Carson?

  It's something that really feeds the ego, something innate and dark, deep within us. It's an ancient trauma that's been passed down through epigenetic memories. Scientists discovered that these epigenetics are real and that they're passed through the body, through the RNA from the father's side, and they go on for generations and generations and generations. So there's this dark, deep trauma within our bodies that's hidden away, that's programming code. And this code is popping up, influencing the ego and giving people these thoughts to dominate others.

• 1:38:09Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:38:10Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:11Lewis Howes?

  Is it possible to break the traumas of our ancestors?

• 1:38:16Billy Carson?

  Affirmations. The only way is through positive affirmations. Meditation and positive affirmations is the only way to break it. So we gotta be able to begin to get people understanding that this is within us. This darkness is hiding in our cells in our body, within the DNA. And we need to be able to now rewrite that. How do we reprogram it? Meditation and affirmations, meditation and affirmations. We have to uncode ourselves and recode ourselves, deprogram and reprogram. And then the RNA that we pass down to the next generation will be healed and cured from that ancient mindset, disease, thought process of domination. Right now, we live in a universe, or we live in the civilization on this planet, at least based on full competition over collaboration.

• 1:39:01Billy Carson?

  We have to get out of this competition mindset. It's in everything that we see, everything that we do. And realize you're only in competition with yourself. If you succeed at the podcasting and you get a hundred million subscribers, I'm gonna be your best cheerleader, right? Because I feel like that's phenomenal. He achieves his birthright and there's still room for me to grow. What can I learn from him? Instead of seeing it, oh, man, he made it to a hundred million people and what am I gonna do? And I need to beat Lewis Howes. I mean, that mindset is what's holding us down. The mindset of envy, of jealousy, of competition. When we move and shift into the collaboration mindset and realize that abundance manifested throughout the entire universe, and abundance is unlimited. And we realize it's unlimited abundance.

• 1:39:46Billy Carson?

  So if he's successful. I could be successful on the same level too. If this company is doing this, I can have a company doing the same thing. Gaia is a streaming TV network. I don't wish any ill on them. I want them to see, I want them to do great things. There's room for me. They're paving the way for my company to be a huge streaming TV platform, right? So why am I wishing and hoping the worst on them? I'm just following the trend and not reinventing the wheel.

• 1:40:10Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:40:11Billy Carson?

  So it's this mind, but when you shift, if you don't shift into that, just be like, I gotta beat Gaia. I gotta beat this one. I gotta beat. When you move into that mindset, it's a hindrance, it's dark, and you end up going to battle.

• 1:40:21Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:40:21Billy Carson?

  You go, you go to war. But when you move into the, the frequency of collaboration, how can we be, how can we work together? How can we become a bundle package together on, on Amazon Prime? You know, how can I send you some people for your podcast that'll be great, great people for you to interview? And maybe you might know somebody might be good for my podcast. When you move into that frequency, everything just flows.

• 1:40:40Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:40:41Billy Carson?

  And you grow and there's less stress, less pressure, and there's no war.

• 1:40:45Lewis Howes?

  So combat, it's a collaboration over competition.

• 1:40:48Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:48Lewis Howes?

  Did you always have a collaborative mindset growing up? Or were you more into competition? You had to break that cycle.

• 1:40:54Billy Carson?

  I had a, a competition mindset coming from sports.

• 1:40:57Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:58Billy Carson?

  And I realized coming out of sports, that keeping that same mindset everywhere you go is abrasive.

• 1:41:04Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:05Billy Carson?

  And it takes so much energy.

• 1:41:06Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:07Billy Carson?

  I said, you know, I went to, I got, I remember this one time, this is back in nineteen ninety-eight. A guy invited me to a networking meeting. Back then it used to be all these network, you go meet in person, no virtual stuff, right? No LinkedIn.

• 1:41:19Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:20Billy Carson?

  You gotta go sit down with people in their face. Uh, and I went, I said, I begrudgingly, but I went, I went to this meeting and I met the most incredible people there. I mean, trade, exchanged business cards, you know, good old days and got to know each other a little bit, added to my rolodex. And I made a phone call about maybe a month later to one of the people I met there, ended up closing a big business deal. Not from them directly, but somebody they sent me to. And I was like, wow, just one meeting. And I realized then it's the collaboration that counts, not the competition. And I shut, started shifting in that moment into the collaboration mindset.

• 1:41:54Lewis Howes?

  It just feels better too.

• 1:41:55Billy Carson?

  It feels better.

• 1:41:56Lewis Howes?

  I mean.

• 1:41:56Billy Carson?

  So clean.

• 1:41:56Lewis Howes?

  There's a, there's a, there's a. Ego fun feeling of competing and beating someone. There's like, there's a feeling to that too.

• 1:42:04Billy Carson?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:42:05Lewis Howes?

  That's more of like a darker side, I guess. Unless it's in sports, like there's a spirit of competition where you can also have a spirit of sportsmanship.

• 1:42:14Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 1:42:14Lewis Howes?

  Which is can you compete?

• 1:42:16Billy Carson?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:42:16Lewis Howes?

  And then shake each other's hands afterwards.

• 1:42:18Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 1:42:19Lewis Howes?

  In the spirit of the game.

• 1:42:20Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 1:42:20Lewis Howes?

  Of, thank you for helping me elevate my skills to this new level.

• 1:42:25Billy Carson?

  Facts.

• 1:42:25Lewis Howes?

  Maybe I lost the game, but you helped me grow. And when both teams or individuals can do that in the spirit of sportsmanship and in kind of collaboration of raising the frequency within each other.

• 1:42:37Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:37Lewis Howes?

  That's a win-win.

• 1:42:38Billy Carson?

  Absolutely.

• 1:42:39Lewis Howes?

  Even if someone loses, you can create a win-win.

• 1:42:41Billy Carson?

  Yes, facts.

• 1:42:42Lewis Howes?

  If you interpret it differently. So I had to learn that in my twenties because I was all about competition.

• 1:42:47Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:47Lewis Howes?

  I need to be number one and win. I need to rewrite. And man, it is, it's exhausting.

• 1:42:52Billy Carson?

  It's exhausting, man. It takes so much energy. You know, I got US Junior Olympics for a little while, AAU basketball, U triple S A. I had a large program in, in South Florida, uh, one of the largest, actually. A hundred and twenty-one players in the total program. And scouting and going out and trying to make sure you beat this and find out what this game plan is and how do you go past to go get past this coach's plays and, and all the, it takes so much energy. Now, of course, it's sports, so you have to do it. But when you then move it out of there into general life.

• 1:43:20Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:20Billy Carson?

  Oh, you think I got the system. I'm gonna take this system I used to win here and it went over here.

• 1:43:25Lewis Howes?

  Doesn't work.

• 1:43:25Billy Carson?

  Oh, no, it doesn't work. It's just so.

• 1:43:26Lewis Howes?

  It's a battle, man.

• 1:43:27Billy Carson?

  So the battle. You create battles that don't even exist. You create them out of thin air.

• 1:43:32Lewis Howes?

  I had to learn how to be collaborative, yeah, in my thirties and, and realize that's the true key to getting success is like helping others win, serving others, being of value.

• 1:43:43Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:44Lewis Howes?

  And knowing that it's not always gonna be them that help you win also.

• 1:43:47Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 1:43:47Lewis Howes?

  It's not always gonna be that. But I was just telling this to my brother this morning for like the last, I don't know, twelve years of doing this show, but also just kind of sixteen, seventeen years of being in business and stuff. I've just tried to be a giver. I guess me and you are givers and that's why in a wounded place you attract a taker.

• 1:44:04Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:44:05Lewis Howes?

  In relationships, I have an emotional wound of intimacy.

• 1:44:08Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:09Lewis Howes?

  Um, but in life, I just try to be a giver and I, and I was telling them this morning, I was like, not every person I gave to has given me something of equal value or greater value in return.

• 1:44:18Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 1:44:18Lewis Howes?

  To what I gave them.

• 1:44:19Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:20Lewis Howes?

  But I live in a beautiful home. I have a sanctuary. I have an opportunity to make a difference. And I have a big platform, like, life has given me so much.

• 1:44:30Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:44:31Lewis Howes?

  And I believe it's because I keep showing up consistently, not perfectly, but consistently to try to find value.

• 1:44:37Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:38Lewis Howes?

  And give that value to other people.

• 1:44:39Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:44:40Lewis Howes?

  And by being of service, I believe that you will be rewarded eventually, you know? It may not happen right away, but you will gain incredible gifts. And it's gonna look different than everyone else, but it's like, I receive and appreciate and I'm grateful for what I have. And I think that is also an element to manifesting more.

• 1:45:00Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:01Lewis Howes?

  Is really living in the frequency of gratitude for what I do have.

• 1:45:06Billy Carson?

  Yep.

• 1:45:06Lewis Howes?

  And you can want and, and create more, but also like, if I don't have more, I'm happy.

• 1:45:13Billy Carson?

  I'm happy.

• 1:45:13Lewis Howes?

  I'm happy.

• 1:45:14Billy Carson?

  I'm happy. You know, I really came to that true realization of what you just said. Like I said, just weeks ago, I almost died in the hospital.

• 1:45:21Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:22Billy Carson?

  And I was analyzing, I, I, I had to say to myself, whoo, this is pretty tough. You know, when they, when they came and put the heart monitors and the oxygen thing on me and all this stuff, and I'm in there with all these, these IV trees and all these IVs in my arms and everything else, and I'm in so much agony and pain and I couldn't breathe. And I was thinking, man, every breath I take, I feel the, the liquid, the fluid, the grogling. And I, I was so afraid to go to sleep because I was like, if I go to sleep, I might not wake up.

• 1:45:47Lewis Howes?

  Oh, man.

• 1:45:48Billy Carson?

  But I had this thought like, what if I didn't wake up? Not that I'm trying to leave, but if I do, if I don't wake up, I realize I'm so thankful.

• 1:45:56Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:45:56Billy Carson?

  I lived a life of ten men, you know?

• 1:45:59Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 1:46:01Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful.

• 1:46:01Billy Carson?

  I lived a great life.

• 1:46:02Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:04Billy Carson?

  Even with everything that happened, I really did live a good life.

• 1:46:07Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, man.

• 1:46:10Billy Carson?

  So I was happy. I was like, well, I, if this is it, then I accept it. But I was given a chance to come back and fight, which I did, but I realized like, I really have got such a great life.

• 1:46:21Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:21Billy Carson?

  I have nothing to complain about. That's beautiful, man. Even with all the traumas and all the challenges and relationships and. I really have lived the life of ten men. I've been all over the world. I've been around the world eighteen times. I've traveled, lived in my dreams. I've, you know, I've manifested, you know, a nice place to live. I've manifested being able to provide things for my family. I've manifested being happy, which is the hardest thing to do. I've achieved those things, you know, and you know, obviously not that I wanted to leave, but I felt like, wow, I really look back, I'm so happy. I'm so grateful. I have so much gratitude for life I was given.

• 1:46:52Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Do you have a spiritual practice today?

• 1:46:55Billy Carson?

  Yeah, I just, you know, my biggest thing that I do is I like to meditate. That's my biggest practice. Every single time I get in the shower, that's my prayer closet. Because what I envision is everything that's holding me back, everything is dark, everything that's frustrating, everything that's hindering me, it's washing away, it's coming out of the body and it's washing.

• 1:47:16Lewis Howes?

  That's a great call, man. Yeah.

• 1:47:17Billy Carson?

  Yeah, just. Yeah. And then once I get it all out, I feel like it's all out, then I take a moment and then I just open up and I say, okay, now, bring in all the positivity, bring in all the high energy, bring in all the frequency, bring in all the manifestation, bring in the peace and the sex and the health and everything else. And that's how, you know, I take my shower. So I take the opportunity in my showers. Sometimes I can take three a day because I'm doing sauna, as I'm working out. I'm going, my wife wants to go for this walk. But, but I'm getting this through the shower process is my prayer closet.

• 1:47:47Lewis Howes?

  Hmm, that's beautiful, man. I love that. Yeah, whenever I'm feeling down or maybe sick or something like that, or it's not like cold coming on or whatever it might be, I imagine flowing stream of like golden water, flowing from the top of my head, like through my body, cleansing my cells.

• 1:48:05Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:48:05Lewis Howes?

  And just visualizing this like golden river flowing through my body, out my toes.

• 1:48:11Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 1:48:12Lewis Howes?

  And whether it's placebo or whatever it is, it seems to always make an impact.

• 1:48:18Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:18Lewis Howes?

  By thought.

• 1:48:20Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:21Lewis Howes?

  It's not actually happening.

• 1:48:22Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:23Lewis Howes?

  But I'm imagining that it's happening.

• 1:48:25Billy Carson?

  Well, that's making it real. Isn't that interesting that it's really happening in that higher dimensional realm and that multi-dimensional area, it's really happening and I believe in it, man. It has a direct effect on me, you know, and I'm not a perfect person. I make mistakes just like everyone else. But it's recognizing that, you know, recognizing it, coming to terms with it, addressing it, and just trying to move through it and then try to find a way to, again, not duplicate that, but also to have the gratitude for even understanding that I've recognized that.

• 1:48:55Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:48:56Billy Carson?

  So many people go through life without recognizing anything and they're just like NPCs in the Matrix, non-player characters. But the ones that are conscious, you begin to become self-aware. And self-aware is not just recognizing, oh, that's just me in the mirror, but self-aware is being able to realize that you're not your thoughts, you're the observer of your thoughts. And that's where you gain your most power.

• 1:49:18Lewis Howes?

  We're not our thoughts, we are the observer of our thoughts. What is the biggest illusion that people have?

• 1:49:24Billy Carson?

  They think that they are, for example, I'm Billy Carson, right? They think that that's that person. So you're Lewis Howes. People think that, oh, that's me, I'm Billy Carson, I'm Lewis Howes, I'm Mary Jane, or whatever the number is, right? Or whatever the name is, but they're not. When you're born, you're given a name, a race, and a religion, and you spend your whole life depending on false identity. Like I always say, most people have no idea who they are. They have no clue. They don't even begin to know who they actually are, and they'll go through their whole life in that illusion. Who's Billy Carson? Somebody gave me that name. I never chose that name. It was given to me. Somebody told me, you know, to be in this religion. I didn't choose to be in that thing.

• 1:50:07Billy Carson?

  Somebody told me I was black, a black guy. I mean, I look brown.

• 1:50:11Lewis Howes?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:50:13Billy Carson?

  So who am I? People have to take time to sit with themselves and figure out who they truly are, what their true interests are, outside of what's been told to have been given to them, what's been forced on them. And find out what they're truly passionate about. Find out things that they would like to get, that they would like to be interested in and to do. And passions that they want to fulfill and things they want to manifest. Outside of everything that's been given to them and forced upon them. And realize that they're much more than what the programming code is. We're programmed from age one to seven becomes who you are for the rest of your life. According to modern science. Well, in that timeframe, a lot of us get that code and we stick to that code. We have to sit down and realize that we've been programmed. Now, how do we deprogram this? How do we then rewrite that program?

• 1:50:57Billy Carson?

  And how do we get through the fear of even asking the questions on how to get out of this programming? A belief system is so hardcoded into our bodies now. That the, the, the thought of asking any question or questioning it anyway. It hurts us physically and it makes us completely frightened and horrified.

• 1:51:15Lewis Howes?

  Well, it's also a community aspect of if your community, your family, your friends have a belief system. And you're questioning their beliefs.

• 1:51:24Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 1:51:25Lewis Howes?

  You're questioning them, they start to get upset with you. You don't wanna, you don't wanna, you know, be kicked out of the tribe or the church or the community. You wanna have love and family. So it's a.

• 1:51:34Billy Carson?

  Delicate situation.

• 1:51:35Lewis Howes?

  It's challenging because you, I think we should be questioning things. Shouldn't just accept everything that is told to us as well hundred percent truth and fact. I think you can ask questions about it and that's a good thing. And maybe you come to a belief, you come to an agreement of like, oh, this belief system works for me.

• 1:51:51Billy Carson?

  Yes.

• 1:51:52Lewis Howes?

  It benefits me.

• 1:51:53Billy Carson?

  Right.

• 1:51:53Lewis Howes?

  It gives me value. It brings me more harmony and alignment in my life. And this set of values, when I live up to them, I create a better reality for myself.

• 1:52:02Billy Carson?

  That's it.

• 1:52:03Lewis Howes?

  I feel more peace. I feel more free. I feel more abundant. Or does this set of values, do I need to adjust some of them or question them? Or were they pushed on me and maybe they do work, but maybe they don't work for me right now. You know, it's like you have to question things like that.

• 1:52:16Billy Carson?

  Just to come to a better overall understanding.

• 1:52:18Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:52:18Billy Carson?

  Of what you've accepted program wise.

• 1:52:20Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:52:21Billy Carson?

  And like you said, some of it's good, some of it's useful, some of it you can go along with. But become aware of it. Understand that this was coded into you. Now let's dig deeper into that code and understand, is this something that I really truly accept? Or am I just going with the status quo?

• 1:52:37Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:52:38Billy Carson?

  So many people live their life on status quo till the day that they actually die. And never really truly living alive, but not living.

• 1:52:45Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 1:52:45Billy Carson?

  And a lot of people are waiting to die so they can live. I choose to live now.

• 1:52:49Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:52:52Lewis Howes?

  What was the program that you had to decode and reprogram that was the hardest for you?

• 1:52:59Billy Carson?

  Oh, one of the hardest for me, to be honest, was understanding money, financial literacy. The programming I had growing up was my parents had a little shoebox and if they had 20 bucks in there, that was a lot of money and that was in top of the closet. Mostly it just had change in it. I would get sent to the grocery store to smash the cans on the shelves because then you can get it for like 10 cents a can.

• 1:53:19Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:53:19Billy Carson?

  You know, waiting for people to bring us food and taking fruits off of fruit trees in the neighborhood. We didn't even have water. Like I said, we would attach the water hose to our neighbor's house so we can rinse off in the backyard. So seeing that, no checkbooks, no bank account, no savings account, no life insurance, no nothing, just growing up under that programming code.

• 1:53:40Lewis Howes?

  You weren't educated in money.

• 1:53:41Billy Carson?

  I wasn't educated in money, you know? And so that I made a lot of financial mistakes when I was younger, you know? I had, I had built some businesses and done really well. I remember I had this one marketing company I started. This is prior to the internet, just, just as the internet was getting ready to come into existence, so.

• 1:53:57Lewis Howes?

  Like late 90s or something?

• 1:53:58Billy Carson?

  Yeah, late 90s. And I was doing phenomenal numbers. I mean, imagine late 90s making 10, 12 grand a week. That was good money back then.

• 1:54:05Lewis Howes?

  Crushing life.

• 1:54:06Billy Carson?

  I was doing good, man. House, car, everything, right? And then their company, the two owners of the, my, my biggest client, the two owners of that company got into an argument and one owner siphoned all the money out of their account and went back to Canada and left the other one high and dry. And I had, at that time, I had like probably seven accounts, but that was like 90% of my income. And I lived up to that income and I didn't save many money. I was just living by get it spending, get it, this is great, man. I'm, I'm rich. I'm doing good forever, right? Not, not really understanding money and financial literacy and, and just living paycheck to paycheck, making 10 grand a week. It was crazy living. And then this happened and I got into a hole and they kept promising to pay, promising to pay,

• 1:54:48Billy Carson?

  promising to pay. And I kept servicing them, servicing them. I thought, I gotta, this is my biggest client. Instead of realizing I gotta acquire some more clients, how am I gonna replace this income? And it never happened. And I ended up losing house, car, everything. I ended up sleeping on the beach homeless for a week. And I was like, how did I get into this situation with all the money I made? I spent every dime. It was so hard for me, but that was my eye opening experience to realize. You better learn about money and how to handle it. Cause you can't afford to put your family in this situation.

• 1:55:16Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:55:17Billy Carson?

  And I ended up sleeping on the beach off of William Lehman Causeway down in Miami. Adventure area when they had all the low rises, all motels and stuff. And I went to the owner of the motel and I said, look, I have no money. I don't want to cause any problems, but can I sleep in my car in your parking lot? And I went and got a hoop-dee from anything on wheels for $450 on layaway.

• 1:55:37Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:55:38Billy Carson?

  I got in the car, got this rusted out hoop-dee, I slipped in that car. I felt down on myself for about a day and a half, I'm not gonna lie. But then I, I got 30 bucks from somebody and I took 10 for gas. Which went a long way back then, because gas was like 79 cents a gallon.

• 1:55:51Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:52Billy Carson?

  And then I took the other 20 and got changed from that same owner of that motel. And I went to the payphone on the corner. The corner was right on the main street of A1A. So I had to wait for the cars to stop at the red lights where there wouldn't be any noise. And I got the yellow pages out from underneath the phone book, phone, uh, phone booth. And started cold calling businesses, getting new clients, setting up some appointments, going on appointments, closing deals.

• 1:56:11Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:56:12Billy Carson?

  And within a couple of weeks, I got some advanced payments. I got myself off the street, back into a nice apartment, got, got that hoop-dee, got into a nice car. Gradually got back into a house, built my way back up. But on my way back up, I made a commitment to myself to understand and learn financial literacy. And through that process, I had gained so much knowledge with money and finances. Which is why I wrote the book, Woke Doesn't Mean Broke. It's a bestselling book in four countries and it's based on the US economic system.

• 1:56:37Lewis Howes?

  Wow, it's a thick book, man.

• 1:56:39Billy Carson?

  688 pages.

• 1:56:40Lewis Howes?

  And, and, uh, in a, I don't know if you could do this in a short answer, but what is, um, what is money?

• 1:56:49Billy Carson?

  Money is nothing more than an energy exchange. It's an instrument. Money doesn't even exist. If you and I were in Alaska right now, inside of a cold cave, we got stranded there. And we had a bag with $1 billion in it. But knowing that if we didn't warm ourselves that night, we would die from pulmonary edema. We would light that bag of money on fire so fast, just to live for one more day.

• 1:57:11Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:11Billy Carson?

  The money has only consciously attributed value. Whatever we give it emotionally is what it actually is valued at. It's just zeros and ones, pieces of paper, it means nothing. It's the energy exchange. So the energy exchange there was heat for life. You see? So once I understood that, I was like, oh. It's not the money, it's energy. So how can I get on the frequency? Because energy is a frequency. So once you get to the frequency of the money, it appears. And I understood that and I began to just get on the frequency of the money.

• 1:57:44Lewis Howes?

  What is the frequency of money to get on?

• 1:57:46Billy Carson?

  The frequency is understanding, okay, for example, this is the late 90s. I saw a commercial said dot com, black screen IBM dot com. That was the whole commercial. I said, what the heck is this IBM dot com? It came on four times during an NBA game. I said, now that's expensive.

• 1:57:59Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:00Billy Carson?

  Even back then. So I went to the bookstore immediately. Of course, no computers, right? I said, can you show me or tell me anything about this dot com? IBM has this dot com commercial. She said, oh, it's over there in the HTML section. I go to the HTML section. I start looking at these books. I go, holy crap. This is crazy. And I realized the old ancient Native American prophecy, Hopi prophecy, where they said that in the future, the world will be connected on a worldwide web and information will travel to and fro instantaneously. And I said, I can't believe I lived to this era. I'm here in the era where this is about to happen right now before my very eyes. So I knew I had to get on the frequency of that because that would then bring what? Bring me the money. So I started studying HTML.

• 1:58:42Billy Carson?

  I started studying ASP scripts, JavaScripts, C plus. And I learned all that at the bookstore. I went to Rent a Center and got a 1995 a week computer called a Packard Bell. I really call it a packer from hell because it's crap. Two gigabyte hard drive, right? And I started replicating this coding on the computer. I became pretty good at it. Started my first internet company called Dot Dot Com Marketing Group.

• 1:59:07Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:59:08Billy Carson?

  And I built that into a multimillion dollar corporation. And then I ended up getting acquired by Glowbench, which was a former FBI agent who actually retired and wanted to have bus benches with HTML, I'm sorry, with LCD screens on them to do marketing and promotion. And then we ended up getting bought out by the Amber Alert Company.

• 1:59:28Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:59:28Billy Carson?

  So.

• 1:59:29Lewis Howes?

  So it's kind of like seeing where is money's frequency at?

• 1:59:33Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:33Lewis Howes?

  And then putting your energy on that same frequency level.

• 1:59:37Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:37Lewis Howes?

  There's going to be money.

• 1:59:38Billy Carson?

  It ran the path of it.

• 1:59:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, there's going to be money in the dot com, whatever this thing is. I don't know. Let me go understand it and learn about how to use it.

• 1:59:44Billy Carson?

  Exactly.

• 1:59:45Lewis Howes?

  Be involved in it and then get, because there's going to be money flowing there.

• 1:59:48Billy Carson?

  Exactly. I got on the dot com frequency.

• 1:59:50Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:50Billy Carson?

  And money was the side effect. Millions of dollars was the side effect, actually.

• 1:59:53Lewis Howes?

  That's amazing, man.

• 1:59:54Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:55Lewis Howes?

  I've got a couple of final questions for you, Billy. This has been powerful and we'll have to have you come back on for another episode in the future, but I want people to follow you, forbiddenknowledge.com, forbiddenknowledge.tv. That's for the four. You've got an amazing, this is a newer book right here, right?

• 2:00:11Billy Carson?

  Yeah, that's my, that's one of my newer books, yeah.

• 2:00:13Lewis Howes?

  Newer book called Fractal Holographic Universe, The Matrix Code Revealed. If you guys want to learn about more about everything we've talked about here, it's all in this book. You can check it out on your website, forbiddenknowledge.com. Also, this seems pretty interesting. Woke doesn't mean broke.

• 2:00:30Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:31Lewis Howes?

  And this is a thick book. This is all about money.

• 2:00:33Billy Carson?

  It's about money. How to be conscious and awake. It's not the conscious woke name. It's the consciousness being awakened, not the other one, right? Not political. It came out before they came up with that term.

• 2:00:44Lewis Howes?

  The woke, yeah, yeah, the woke terminology.

• 2:00:45Billy Carson?

  Yeah, yeah, not that woke term. This is really about being awake. But then, don't be broke, because if you're out here talking about abundance and we have the power within us and everything else and you can't pay your light bill, it's a problem. You're not really a student of the teachings. The proof is in the pudding.

• 2:01:00Lewis Howes?

  Hundred percent.

• 2:01:01Billy Carson?

  Yeah. And this is a giant reference book to every aspects of financial literacy. I'm also a contributor to Entrepreneur Magazine. And so, they, you know, they knew about the book. I contacted them. They went through a process, a screening process, allowed me to be a contributor. And I've got some, all my articles that I write for Entrepreneur are all on financial literacy, because I think that's the biggest thing we're struggling in, in the world right now is financial literacy, which is where I struggled.

• 2:01:24Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful.

• 2:01:24Billy Carson?

  For a while.

• 2:01:25Lewis Howes?

  Woke doesn't mean broke. I love this.

• 2:01:26Billy Carson?

  Thank you.

• 2:01:29Lewis Howes?

  Anywhere else we should send people to, to support you today? You've got these different places to go to?

• 2:01:34Billy Carson?

  Well, I've got my TV network, Forbidden Knowledge TV with the number four. So they can go get the Forbidden Knowledge TV app on any app store, iOS, Google Play, Amazon, you know, Apple TV, LG TV, Samsung TV, Android TV, any TV or whatever. Just go get the Forbidden Knowledge TV app. A lot of incredible content there, docu-series, docu-dramas. Now we're doing actual fictional series that have knowledge encoded into them.

• 2:01:59Lewis Howes?

  Oh, that's cool.

• 2:02:00Billy Carson?

  We have animation. We have, you know, I own a record label too, so we have conscious music.

• 2:02:05Lewis Howes?

  Amazing.

• 2:02:05Billy Carson?

  432 hertz. We have workshops and classes and training sessions and motivation and inspiration. Just

• 2:02:12Lewis Howes?

  Amazing.

• 2:02:12Billy Carson?

  Everything there. So somebody can go there and they could feel comfortable that when I come here, I'm going to walk away with something that I'm going to learn today.

• 2:02:18Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful, man. Thank you. We'll send, we'll link it all up and send people there. Appreciate it.

• 2:02:23Lewis Howes?

  I want to acknowledge you Billy, before I ask the final two questions for your ability to transform over the last five to 10 years. Again, it sounds like you were very analytical, you know, in a certain mode. And I think that when people allow the child to come out of them through healing the inner child and through the journey of healing and forgiveness, it sets us free. And when we are free emotionally, spiritually, mentally, I feel like we make a bigger impact on the people around us. We have a greater potential to actualize our best selves. So I want to acknowledge you for that transformation.

• 2:02:57Billy Carson?

  Thank you, brother. I appreciate that.

• 2:02:58Lewis Howes?

  And for showing up the way you do. I know you get criticized and attacked online for stuff and, and I appreciate that you're just constantly trying to find wisdom that relates to you and you're trying to share what you're learning.

• 2:03:11Billy Carson?

  That's it, man.

• 2:03:12Lewis Howes?

  And, and, and I think you're doing a great job. So I want to acknowledge you for that, Billy.

• 2:03:16Billy Carson?

  Thank you, man.

• 2:03:17Lewis Howes?

  And I, and I hope we, and if people want Billy to come back on, leave a comment below. Share the biggest takeaway from today. And we'll, we'll get Billy back on in the future. But this is a question I ask everyone at the end called the three truths. Okay? So imagine hypothetical scenario. You live as long as you want in this realm, but it's the last day on earth. You accomplish and manifest all your dreams. Everything you want to happen, happens, right? But in the last day, you've got to take all of your work with you. So the books are gone, the TV network is gone, anything you create, gone, hypothetical.

• 2:03:48Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:49Lewis Howes?

  But you get to leave behind three lessons that you've learned from life.

• 2:03:54Billy Carson?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:54Lewis Howes?

  And that's all we would have from your content. What would those three truths be for you?

• 2:03:59Billy Carson?

  The first truth I would say is the ultimate frequency is love. To make sure you get on the love frequency, because without love, nothing can persist. Love has to permeate and does permeate the entire known universe. The second thing I would do is I would tell people to not to focus on material things. Material things are important. Material things make life pleasant and easy in the third dimension. But if you focus solely only on that, you'll be out of balance and you'll be out of sync with what really matters. Focus on building positive and healthy relationships. That's what you should focus on the most and have a balance within your life between material things and non-material things.

• 2:04:41Billy Carson?

  And then the last thing I would say is to just be of service to others. What legacy can you leave behind that would be better than people remembering how you assisted and helped them in their darkest time? In their time of need, when they didn't even know you were coming to save them?

• 2:04:56Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, that's beautiful, man. And the final question, Billy, what's your definition of greatness?

• 2:05:01Billy Carson?

  Wow, greatness, too. I think that real true greatness is most likely when somebody really understands that the power to save themselves is within themselves. Like, there's nobody coming to save you. When I came to that realization, my whole life shifted. Everything shifted in my life. And I think that a lot of people are waiting for this magical thing to come and just bail them out. Instead of analyzing the problem and then focusing on what solutions can begin to solve this problem, whatever that problem is, and being a part of that solution. And if you aren't, you can't be a part of the solution, find someone that's part of that solution and collaborate with them.

• 2:05:38Lewis Howes?

  I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you, if no one has told you lately, that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

• 2:06:22Lewis Howes?

  And now it's time to go out there and do something great.