845 Lindsey Stirling on Facing Loss, Dreaming Big, and Becoming a Superstar

BELIEVE IN SOMETHING GREATER. There are two types of winners I’ve observed. Both of them have confidence. But one winner, when asked how they did it, answers, “I am the greatest.” The other winner, when asked how they did it, answers, “God is the greatest.” Are you putting pressure on yourself to succeed or fail? Or are you putting your strength in something greater? Whether or not you consider yourself a religious person, know that you are not going through life in a vacuum. You’re never on your journey alone. On today’s episode of The School of Greatness, I talk about spirituality, loss, and dreaming big with one of the most inspirational performers on the planet: Lindsey Stirling. Lindsey Stirling is a modern-day "Dancing Violinist" who got her start on American’s Got Talent in 2010. Since then, she has over 11 million subscribers on YouTube. She has been called "The Hip Hop Violinist" due to her twist on songs from today's hits, as well as creating an electronic / dubstep album of original compositions. Lindsey has learned to use her spirituality to inspire her to do things she never thought possible. She shares the daily practices that ground her and retrain her brain. So get ready to learn how to live intentionally and with gratitude on Episode 845. Some Questions I Ask: Why do we lose the ability to dream? (23:30) How do we “re-dream” when things are going well? (26:00) What should someone do who is experiencing periods of darkness? (31:00) How does someone build a belief in themselves? (37:00) How did you handle two close people passing away? (42:00) What’s missing in your life right now? (54:00) What would your dad be most proud of today? (1:00:00) In This Episode You Will Learn: The inspiration behind Lindsey’s new album (7:00) About Lindsey’s experience getting booed off the stage on America’s Got Talent (12:00) Why you need to live life without limits (19:00) How to live intentionally (34:00) How gratitude affects happiness (37:00) Why Dancing With The Stars was spiritual for Lindsey (47:00) If you enjoyed this episode, check out the show notes, video and more at http://www.lewishowes.com/845 and follow at instagram.com/lewishowes Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  This is episode number 845 with Lindsay Sterling. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 0:30Lewis Howes?

  Harriet Tubman said, "Every great dream begins with a dreamer." Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world. I am super excited about this interview. I've got my good friend Lindsay Sterling in the house. Every time I see this woman, I'm inspired. She lifts me up. She's so genuine, real, authentic, and just so gosh darn talented. I mean, when I see her perform on stage, I just can't help but smile and want to dance because she is an incredible talent in what she does. And if you don't know who Lindsay is, she's a violinist, singer-songwriter, and YouTube sensation.

• 1:13Lewis Howes?

  Her music video, "Crystallize," finished as the eighth most-watched video of 2012 on YouTube. And her cover version of "Radioactive with Pentatonix" won the Response of the Year Award in the first-ever YouTube Music Awards. Her debut album was nominated for a Billboard Music Award for Top Dance Electronic Albums. And her second album, "Shatter Me One," at the 2015 Billboard Music Awards. Yes, she's that good. She has also been named in Forbes Magazine 30 Under 30 in Music, and her YouTube channel has over 11 million subscribers and over 2 billion views. Lindsay is launching her world tour this spring, and her new album, Artemis,

• 1:56Lewis Howes?

  is available for preorder right now. I'm telling you guys, this girl is a machine and has an incredible heart. You're gonna love this because in this interview, we talk about how to push through failure. And continue creating despite adversity. How do we become creative in spite of adversity? The importance of always dreaming and not putting the limits of reality on your dreams. I think too many people constantly say, well, this isn't reality for me. This isn't available for me. Uh, let's be realistic here. And that is going to shatter your dreams when you come from that place. Lindsay talks about that. How to reframe your dreams. Once you've reached your goals.

• 2:38Lewis Howes?

  You know, over my life, I've achieved so many of my dreams and sometimes we could get stuck afterwards. So how do we reframe them? Finding joy in darkness and being intentional with your actions to get through hard times. The power of positive affirmations and how it must be practiced daily to truly achieve self-love. Lindsay talks about her struggles with anorexia, with other challenges and insecurities with loss. She dives in deep and opens up in an emotional way. So if you enjoyed this interview, please send her some love. Send this over on your Instagram story, tag Lindsay Sterling, tag myself. Let me know you're listening to this, you're watching this on YouTube or Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

• 3:21Lewis Howes?

  And send the link to one friend, text a friend today who could be inspired by this interview as well. Super excited about that. Let me know what you think. All right, guys, let's dive into this episode with the one and only Lindsay Sterling.

• 3:40Lewis Howes?

  What is it that you're most excited about right now?

• 3:43Speaker 01

  I am so excited to start a new chapter. Like I think sometimes as artists or like as influencers, whatever you want to call ourselves, like you get in this rut where you sometimes feel like you're in a hamster wheel a little bit. And it's so exciting to feel like you're starting a new chapter. And so I've been working all year on a new album and I wanted this chapter to feel different. And so I decided to tell a story. It's a very high concept album. Um, it's all based around a comic book that I wrote simultaneously to the album. And so that's why um, the album artwork is all manga anime style, like nineties anime. Cause I just think that's such a cool art form. I've always loved it. And then uh, the comic book as well that I've been working on, um, spent tons of time on this story

• 4:28Speaker 01

  and these characters. And that's why the album's called Artemis. It's about kind of the um, the story of the goddess of the moon.

• 4:35Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  So anyways, I'm excited to go on tour. The tour is very concept driven, the album's concept driven, and all the music videos like tell the story. And so it's really fun to have such a cohesive work. And now I get to finally, after all the work of putting it together, I get to go share it.

• 4:50Lewis Howes?

  How long did it take to do it all?

• 4:52Speaker 01

  It came really fast. Like, um, I started in January. It's the fastest I've ever written an album.

• 4:58Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  And yeah.

• 4:59Lewis Howes?

  Six months, seven months?

• 5:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause I mean, it's done. It's been done for months in order to get everything, you know, the artwork done. And I've just worked extremely hard, but at the same time, sometimes you just feel inspired.

• 5:09Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  And once I got my rhythm in it, like at first I was writing a lot of terrible music until I find my rhythm. Once I found my rhythm, it just, it just came and it felt so right. And it felt like I was being very inspired. Yeah. So it was kind of nice to write from a place this time of joy, which I don't think I've ever written an album from a place of joy. And

• 5:32Lewis Howes?

  What's it all been written by?

• 5:33Speaker 01

  I mean, my, my first album was a place of just like discovery of like, what is this? I don't know. Like, ooh, like, that was a very different kind of excitement. My second album was all drawing from my recovery from anorexia. It was writing about like all of that, like lots of dark emotion of, you know, but still hopeful. Um, and then my third album was writing all about loss. My best friend and my keyboard player, who I'd toured with for years, he passed away suddenly. And then my dad was also going through cancer and he passed away right as I was finishing the album.

• 6:07Lewis Howes?

  Oh my God.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  So the album was bookended by the most extreme depression and sorrow that I had ever felt and loss. And like, I just didn't know you could feel that. And so that album was heavily charged with a lot of hard things. And one thing that was so exciting about this album was like, I don't know, loss, I feel like it changes you. And I had come to accept that like this was a new version of myself. And that kind of the rose tinted glasses Lindsay had left and died with them. And I was like, I just don't think I'll ever be the same again, because it had been years. You know, it'd been like, it's now been three years since all of that happened. And it took about two years to come fully out of that depression.

• 6:50Speaker 01

  And I realized, it was right about the same time, a few months before I started this album, that I was like, I started to feel myself again. And I was like, oh my gosh, it's not that I was gone. It's not that I disappeared or I died with them, like a part of me. It's, no, I was just, I was just covered up for a while. And that's why I decided to call this album Artemis, because the moon is such cool, like it has such a cool symbolism of hope and the fact that, you know, you look at the moon, sometimes it's big and bright and it glows and it can light up the night. And other times you'd look up and you can't even find it. And it looks like it might not even be there anymore. And that was like me, I was like, oh my gosh, I was, I wasn't gone. I was just covered in shadow. And I think that through our lives, like whether it's a hard relationship

• 7:35Speaker 01

  or a depression or loss or grief, whatever, we sometimes metaphorically get covered by those things. And you might think that you're not there anymore, but it doesn't mean that you're not still powerful and full of light, love, and that you won't come back to full light. And so I wrote this album from a place of like, oh my gosh, I'm still full of light. And that's what the album's about, that's what the story's about, yeah. Thank you, I'm so excited to share that message. You know, that we are all so powerful. Don't ever forget it.

• 8:05Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, well, I remember we, we had what lunch, I think, at Sweetgreen last year around, I think it was around January, February last year, a year and a half ago. And I remember you being in a very, in that shadow.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:17Lewis Howes?

  Of wondering like, what should I be doing with my career, my life? I think you went through a breakup maybe recently too, or something happened with relationships.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:25Lewis Howes?

  And I remember you feeling lost.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I did.

• 8:29Lewis Howes?

  Because you were like, well, I've achieved a lot of my dreams, but now what am I doing?

• 8:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 8:34Lewis Howes?

  And now it seems like you're reinventing yourself and kind of going to a new level, is that right?

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Absolutely, and I think. Yeah, I think I did definitely feel lost. And it's funny, it's like I felt like, oh, I have to reinvent myself in a big way, but it's like, no, I just had to get back on the bicycle and keep pedaling and realize that doing exactly what I love and like just broadening it. Like it's, I think sometimes in life, we feel like we have to make these huge, massive changes. Like, I feel a little bit lost, I need to go way over there.

• 9:04Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  Because this isn't right. But I was like, no, I literally had to just like pivot a little bit and then it felt so right again. It's just kind of trying different angles and different tiny tweaks in our life, whether it's like adding little bits, like try meditating.

• 9:19Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  Try exercising. In order to really improve your life or find yourself, I think that we don't have to completely reinvent the wheel. Sometimes, but sometimes I think you're just like a tiny degree off. You know, it's like if you look at a train track and when there's like a tiny change in the tracks when they switch them, it's like an inch move that eventually will get that train to like a completely different state.

• 9:43Lewis Howes?

  That's true.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Versus, you know, like thinking, I don't know, I think that we get discouraged too often because we expect ourselves to make these huge changes when all you need is tiny little adjustments.

• 9:52Lewis Howes?

  Adjustments, yeah. You're one of my favorite people and I don't say it lightly because I love, I'm not, I'm not lying. I say this because, you know, we've probably only hung out, I don't know, like half a dozen times, maybe, maybe a few times more. We've, you've been on here a couple of times, you came to the summit, we've hung out for lunch with two, three, four times, maybe we've been at events maybe a couple of times. We've been on the phone, you know, different things like that, but I feel like I've watched your journey for years and I love the fact that you were essentially, I mean, it's so hard to do what you've done as a violinist. It's really challenging. I know, because my older brother's a violinist.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  Right. An amazing violinist.

• 10:29Lewis Howes?

  He's an amazing jazz violinist, but it's hard to make a living and as a violinist.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 10:35Lewis Howes?

  And it's hard for people to want to care about you as a violinist.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:38Lewis Howes?

  You're usually just like, I don't know, on stage, like comforting me something, but you're not front and center. And you went from America's Got Talent.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  Right.

• 10:47Lewis Howes?

  America's Got Talent to not even, to getting booed off stage.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  Literally.

• 10:51Lewis Howes?

  And, and coming back and, and essentially saying, I'm not gonna let this define me.

• 10:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:57Lewis Howes?

  But I'm gonna continue to do this because I love it and I enjoy it and you wanted to explore it. I think that's really cool. So you overcame this kind of public failure, let's call it, even though it wasn't that bad.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  The most humiliating, it was bad.

• 11:10Lewis Howes?

  For you it was humiliating.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  The most humiliating, devastating moment of my life, like, oh.

• 11:16Lewis Howes?

  He was like, "Stop playing the violin," essentially, like, "Don't do this."

• 11:19Speaker 01

  Essentially, like, I mean, you told me I was so bad. I mean, they all said you were pretty bad. But, you know, one judge in particular was like, "You sounded like rats being strangled, like you were so bad."

• 11:31Speaker 01

  I mean, in front of 11 million people. They told me right before I walked on stage, like, "Good luck, there's 11 million people doing it right now."

• 11:38Lewis Howes?

  Oh my god, no way.

• 11:39Speaker 01

  I mean, and I performed only in front of like 500 people, tops, like, tops, maybe like a few hundred. I was...

• 11:46Lewis Howes?

  Like a school talent show or something?

• 11:48Speaker 01

  Literally, like an open mic night in front of 100 people. I mean, I was terrified, but yet I was also so excited. I knew this moment was going to make me. And then I walk out on that stage, perform, get xed in the middle of my performance, so embarrassing already. Then I get torn apart by the judges, literally tears are happening behind my eyeballs, like, I'm like trying not to sob on stage. And, you know, the thing is though, when I ran off that stage, first of all, I sobbed in the bathroom for hours until they told me I had to leave. Like, literally the cleaning staff came in and they were like, "Oh, we thought everyone was gone."

• 12:25Lewis Howes?

  Oh no.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  Like, "We're closed up for that, like, you gotta go." You know, this girl crying on the bathroom floor, ew, first of all, it's public bathroom. But, um, the thing is, it took me a while to like get back on my feet and like have the courage to step on a stage again. Have the courage to tell myself that like, "No, you are good enough." Like, even though the world just told you otherwise, you are good enough. And I think there's this inner gut that like will guide you because sometimes it is time to turn around and say like, "You know, maybe this isn't the best path for me." Sometimes though, you have to listen to that gut that tells you, "No." Maybe you're not good enough, but you're not good enough yet. And that's the thing, a lot of times people joke with me, they're like, "They sure got it wrong on America's Got Talent."

• 13:09Lewis Howes?

  They were actually right.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  They were actually right.

• 13:11Lewis Howes?

  At the timing.

• 13:12Speaker 01

  The moment, I wasn't good enough. Like, you watch that video, I was terrible. Like, I wasn't good. But like, that's the thing is, we all are on different phases of our lives and our trajectories. And dancing and playing the violin is very, very difficult.

• 13:27Lewis Howes?

  It's so hard.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  And I was new in that craft. I just invented the idea. And so, it wasn't that I wasn't good enough or didn't have the potential. I just wasn't there, I wasn't good enough yet. And so, I worked my tail off. And you said, "It's really interesting, my path and where I've ended up." Like, I can't believe that, like, I get to tour and that I get to tour the world and people show up. It blows my mind sometimes when I look out at these audiences and I think, "All these like thousands of people bought a ticket here in Germany to see my show." Like, it blows my mind and I just get filled with so much gratitude in these very, like, they don't happen all the time. It's very specific moments where I'm like, overcome with the reality of the situation of like, "Oh my gosh." "This is my life and it came for me."

• 14:13Speaker 01

  But the thing is, is I didn't realize when I started out that what I had set out to do was impossible. Being a dancing violinist that plays electronic music, at the time I had no money to like make a career happen. It was impossible. But because I didn't understand that and because I believed so strongly in what I was out to do, it happened because I saw it, I visualized it, I prayed for it, it felt right. And I think that when we don't put the limits of reality around ourselves, like, there's so much that we can accomplish, that we box ourselves in sometimes with doubt, with fear, with like what other people tell you. And we build these like limits around ourselves and I see that more in myself now than then.

• 14:58Lewis Howes?

  You have more limits now?

• 15:00Speaker 01

  I work really hard to not have them because I've learned so much. I've, I've experienced so much more of like the successes and the failures and I've just gotten reality checks of like, "Oh, I understand this industry." When I started, I did not understand the industry at all.

• 15:15Lewis Howes?

  That's probably why you're successful.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  And that's why I was successful. I'm so glad.

• 15:18Lewis Howes?

  So why are you, why are you reality checking yourself now?

• 15:20Speaker 01

  Well, now I try the reverse. I try to like unreality check myself and be like, I literally, when I started writing this album, I thought to myself, I need to learn to dream again.

• 15:30Lewis Howes?

  God, it's so true.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  I've forgotten how to dream and to make wishes and send them into the universe. I used to like literally do that all the time. I would be like, my dreams, they can come true. And I'd see them and I'd feel them and they, I've been amazed at how many of them have come to fruition. Because I believed they would happen. Where now I have to like consciously make the decision like, we're gonna dream, we're gonna think big again. Because the more you learn in life, the more you start to limit yourself. The same way a child has dreams, we need to dream like children. And I would say one of the biggest ways that I saw one of my dreams, like I've seen it in so many ways, that my dreams from the past, when I was the strongest dreamer, have come to fruition. And one of those was, you were there, we toured with Evanescence, like a co-headline tour.

• 16:15Speaker 01

  This summer, to co-headline with one of my idols.

• 16:19Lewis Howes?

  You had videos that you played on stage from like when you were 16.

• 16:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:23Lewis Howes?

  Singing Evanescence, right?

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Right. Like, when I would say to people like, oh, I was a huge Evanescence fan, you know, I am a huge Evanescence fan and I have been my whole life. They'd be like, oh, that's cute. But then I onstage would show a music video I made in high school with my best friends of me like rocking out and singing Bring Me to Life by Evanescence. And the audience would laugh and it was like this very funny moment in the show. But then I'd be like, okay, that was funny, maybe a little embarrassing, but like, let's all pause for a second. I just shared the stage with my idol.

• 16:56Lewis Howes?

  It's amazing.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  Amy Lee. That girl up there, she never, like, I, well, first of all, no one would have ever watched that music video and thought to themselves, wow.

• 17:04Lewis Howes?

  One day.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  That girl's going places. Like, no, I looked like such a dork. But the thing is, is that girl didn't think she looked like a dork. That girl had big plans, big dreams. I worked my tail off to get there. And because I like put it into the universe, not only now have I was on Amy Lee's album. I've performed with her, I've toured with her, co-headlined, and she's now on my album.

• 17:27Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  And like, and also, it's funny, the song that she sang onstage with me every night was my song, Shatter Me. I wrote that for her years ago. And you know, she was on maternity leave, she wasn't able to sing it. You know, we got Lizzie Hale, who is amazing, and I'm like, a huge Lizzie fan now. But it's just so interesting, like, putting things into the universe. Amy sung that with me every night on stage, and I'm like, I would have died to have her sing that years ago when I wrote that song for her. Like, what you put out into the universe, what you wish, what you dream for, is powerful, and it will come back to you in one shape or another. So I consciously make the effort to dream.

• 18:08Lewis Howes?

  Why do we lose the ability to dream?

• 18:11Speaker 01

  I think it's because we learn. And we put these, like I said, these limits around ourselves, which are, there's like practicality, and people oftentimes are afraid to like, be uber optimistic, because it's like, oh, and I'll get my hopes up and my hopes will be dashed, but like,

• 18:26Lewis Howes?

  Who cares?

• 18:27Speaker 01

  Who cares?

• 18:28Lewis Howes?

  Who cares if you do?

• 18:29Speaker 01

  If anything, like, hope in the moment and excitement right now, you live way more in the moment than you experience, like, in the future. Some of us get way caught up in the future, which isn't even happening. Like, if you can live in the moment and find excitement in the present, and like, yeah, get excited, feel that energy, and if it doesn't work out, you'll have a moment of disappointment, but then feel excitement for something else. Like, live in those moments of dreaming and wishing, and because I think there's such a powerful energy, and whether you see it as God, or like, the universe, or whatever, there's a bigger plan for you than what, like, practicality can make.

• 19:03Lewis Howes?

  Well, no one gets excited about someone who's practical. They get excited about people who have that magnetic energy, that dreamer's energy that's sparking their eye. We're not like, okay, let's give everything to the person who has a rational mind. We're like, no, we want to give the things to people that go for it.

• 19:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, and a rational mind is great, because you see what's practical stuff, but my life and my trajectory, I remind myself, has not been practical.

• 19:28Lewis Howes?

  No, nothing you've done.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  It doesn't make sense, how I am here today, speaking to you, having the kind of life I have. It was not practical, and I believe in miracles, and I 100% think that, like, angels have guided my footsteps, that God has really guided me, because I've asked, and I've told him I had big dreams, and I think sometimes if you just merely, like, what's the harm in asking for big things?

• 19:50Lewis Howes?

  So true.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  Why not ask, why not ask the universe for what you actually want? You know, and I love what Jim Carrey said. He said, "I'd rather take a risk and go for the things I actually want in life, because you can fail at anything."

• 20:03Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 20:03Speaker 01

  You can fail at your safe bet, or you can fail going for something that you really, really want.

• 20:08Lewis Howes?

  So true.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  Like, life has no guarantees.

• 20:11Lewis Howes?

  Zero.

• 20:11Speaker 01

  So go for what you want.

• 20:12Lewis Howes?

  We gone tomorrow.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 20:15Lewis Howes?

  Oh, I love this. So another thing that I love about you is that you failed publicly and you came back.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:24Lewis Howes?

  And you said, "Screw it, this is a good lesson. I'm not ready, I don't have the skills yet."

• 20:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:29Lewis Howes?

  "But maybe I'm close, so let me work on it more." And then you blew up. You invented your own way of kind of marketing with YouTube and social media originally, which kind of allowed you to reach the masses.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:41Lewis Howes?

  And then be able to get these bigger opportunities and go on tours and stuff like that. And you keep doing it, right? You keep doing it over and over again. But I remember a year and a half ago, we talked about this a little bit, that you kind of felt like your father passing with your best friend's passing. And you kind of achieved a lot by then, too.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:59Lewis Howes?

  You kind of reached a lot of these dreams that you had. So how do we discover how to re-dream when things are really good? Because I feel like I'm a little bit... I can understand, because sometimes like, man, everything's growing, everything's going really well for me, but how do I even take it to another level and re-dream?

• 21:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:18Lewis Howes?

  For something even greater?

• 21:20Speaker 01

  Oof, I've found for myself, there's a fine line between reaching for greater and then realizing why I love where I'm at? And thinking about what's more important right now? Is it most important for me to keep growing and getting greater and greater? Or is it more important to relish in what I love about what I do? And that's for everybody to decide for themselves. And there have been times I'm like, "No, it's time right now to reach for greater." Like, I have big dreams still, I have big things. And then there's other times where I'm like, "No, right now, I need to..." Focus on what I love about what I do. And there was a time when I started to delegate, like, well,

• 22:04Speaker 01

  I've always had a hard time delegating, like, certain things. And I've realized that, yes, I could probably maximize my time and reach out and do other bigger, greater things if I delegated more of my stuff. But then I was like, but that is what I love about what I do. You know, I love creative directing all my shows. I'm like way too involved.

• 22:27Lewis Howes?

  That's what makes them magical.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  But that's what, and also, I love that. That's part of, like, for me, the writing the music is something only I can do. I have to write my own music because I don't know anyone else that writes like I do. And I, I don't know, it wouldn't be the same. So even though that's the hardest part for me, like emotionally, and like, it's the most work for me, is the writing, is something only I can do. However, I could have someone creative direct my tours. There's so many talented people out there. But that's the part I love. I love bringing the show to life. It takes months editing my own music videos. I still edit all of them.

• 23:01Lewis Howes?

  You edit them yourself?

• 23:02Speaker 01

  I edit all of them myself. But I'm a re, I think one of my best talents is storytelling, and I'm a great editor. And even though I could find and hire a great editor, I love editing my music video. It's like the candy after the meal. I like sit there for hours. I was literally on a plane the other day. I had Luna on my lap. I'm like way back in 29C. And I'm like editing with like my dog. And I, like, someone, someone around me was like, are you Lindsay Sterling? And are you editing your music video back here in Colorado?

• 23:32Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 23:32Speaker 01

  Yes, I am.

• 23:33Lewis Howes?

  That's amazing.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  You know, because, yeah, it's like, I could probably maximize my time better. But for me, I had to evaluate what makes me the happiest. These parts of my art. And so because of that, I don't think I'll ever give them away. And so it's like always evaluating those things. And then I think the third thing is also just... Finding new challenges. Like I said, tiny tweaks. For me, it was really fun to write a comic book with this album. Something I've never done before. I'm good at short-term storytelling, but it made me realize long-form storytelling was a new art that I'd never invested in, never put creativity into.

• 24:08Lewis Howes?

  A lot of energy.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  A lot of energy. I spent hours a day with my writer working on this comic book. And it was a new challenge, you know? And it wasn't that I like suddenly went into acting, you know? I didn't like pivot that far. It was just like, okay, what new dimension can I add to my craft to make it feel fresh for me? And it made this album so exciting with these characters and the story. Made my creative direction of the tour completely new in trying to encapture these characters in the show. You know, so I think for me, it's just little challenges. Like being like, we're gonna push the envelope a little bit on this side while we still stay on the foundation of what I know.

• 24:47Lewis Howes?

  Sure, yeah. When someone is going through some type of depression or darkness or a shadow of being hidden by the light, what would you recommend for them if it's been a month, six months, years that they've been feeling some type of darkness? How to get out of it?

• 25:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:04Lewis Howes?

  To find their light, their inner light again?

• 25:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. One thing I love about the symbolism of the moon as well is not only the cycles it goes through, but like the goddess Artemis, like how brave she must be because she brings light to darkness. It's really easy to shine and be bright when the sun is out. To feel full of light and you feel the vitamin D coming into you. And it's really easy to feel that. But at night, the moon shines even in darkness. And I think that even through times of hardship and trial, I found moments of joy. You know, even though I felt like I was covered in shadow. And I think it's possible to experience joy amongst trials, amongst darkness, the same way the moon shines in the dark. And I, I really feel like there are practices you can go through where you practice being intentional. I mean, sometimes literally it was waking up in the morning

• 25:51Speaker 01

  and being like, I'm gonna make it through this day.

• 25:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  And you know, and that's the best I could do.

• 25:56Lewis Howes?

  Wow, yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  And I'm gonna, you know, or I have that meeting today that I really want to be a positive experience. Or this meet and greet that I've got to go to, I want it to be a positive experience. So I'm going to like meditate before I go. And it took a little more energy to be intentional, but like setting myself up before I got into situations so that when I arrived, I knew how I wanted to feel at least. You know, and I would sometimes meditate before those things or visualize myself walking in confidently. And, you know, and when I first was realizing I had anorexia years ago.

• 26:30Lewis Howes?

  How old were you then?

• 26:31Speaker 01

  I was like 21 when I, or 22 when I realized I had anorexia.

• 26:37Lewis Howes?

  How, how long do you think you had it for before you actually realized it?

• 26:40Speaker 01

  I think it had, honestly, I sensed like looking back, signs of it from the time I was a child.

• 26:47Lewis Howes?

  Like six, seven?

• 26:48Speaker 01

  I, I had memories from eight years old, feeling fat. You know, where I remember putting on a snowsuit, going to the snow, like a big puffy snowsuit. And I remember looking in the mirror and feeling so fat as an eight-year-old. And taking a belt and like tightening around my waist in this snowsuit, trying to give myself a form. Like, you know, and I, so I have memories like that. It hadn't overcome me, it was just these very early signs that like, uh-oh, something's a little off in the way I'm thinking.

• 27:16Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  And it really took me over when I went to college, I think. That's when it got out of control because suddenly I was on my own and I wasn't, no one was watching what I did. And so I think I, before I realized I had it, I think I was like category, you know, categorized or diagnosably anorexic for like probably two, three years. But I think the first steps that were the most helpful, aside from like accepting it, going to therapy, starting the process. But for me, it was being intentional about listening to the way I thought about myself. Cause I was extremely depressed at this point.

• 27:50Lewis Howes?

  Hmm, at 22?

• 27:51Speaker 01

  22, you know, cause one, anorexia, you don't have the chemicals to create the right endorphins in your body anymore. So depression had like consumed my life more so than than ever before or since. And it was listening to that inner dialogue and realizing, oh my gosh, automatic thoughts are so powerful.

• 28:08Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  And training my mind. And to this day, I mean, I started about two years ago, writing in a gratitude journal. Cause it, at that time, when I was overcoming anorexia, I started to just. Take time every day to look myself in the eye in the mirror and tell myself the thoughts I wanted to believe.

• 28:27Lewis Howes?

  Even if you didn't believe them.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  I did not believe them. But your mind categorizes things in your mind as lies or truth. And so at first, when I would say these things, they would automatically go into the bucket of lies. I'd be like, "You're beautiful. You're smart. You are strong. I love my body. I am grateful for my health and my body." You know, I would say these things and I would like cry as I said them. Like it was such a lie. But eventually, after telling yourself enough, your brain will start to then put it into the truth category. If you've said it enough and it starts to accept like, "Well, maybe this is true." Same with like self-love and self-acceptance. Like if you've been hating yourself for years, saying "I love you" is gonna be a lie. Because it is a lie.

• 29:07Lewis Howes?

  It is.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  And eventually, it will become a truth. And so it was a very like physical and intentional practice. Now, it's a much more casual practice. But like I write in a gratitude journal every night. And I just say three things at the end of the day that I'm grateful for about my life and about my success. And if anyone is still listening, this is one thing that I strongly encourage you to do in your life. A simple gratitude journal. It takes like two minutes at the end of the day. And I have noticed a significant change in my happiness. Because I think we all have a default setting where if you're not extremely excited and happy and if you're not like devastatingly sad and crying, there's like a default that you just kinda like coast through life at. And that's your, that's your setting.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  And my default setting has shifted. One, through doing these practices when I was like super sick in the mind and it's like moved me up. But even now that I'm like a healthy person, I've seen the gratitude journal take me to a higher plane where more likely in random situations, I see the positive in it. Like I'm stuck in traffic and I'm like, "Well, at least I live in this beautiful city in LA." Like where people wanna be, you know, and I'm like, "What the heck has happened to me?" You know, and it's not all the time, but... It's like automatic responses happen because of patterns that you've created. And if you've had years and years of being pessimistic, by like simply writing in a gratitude journal every night, you're training your mind to make positive patterns. And so more on your default setting,

• 30:35Speaker 01

  you're gonna be a happier, more positive, more grateful person. And it has like been one of the simplest things that has the biggest impact, I feel like, on my just average happiness. So I strongly encourage everyone to do a gratitude journal because it makes you intentional in saying, "This is the kind of person I want to be. These are the kind of thoughts I want to think." And whether you're at the stage where you need to literally look yourself in the mirror and be like, "Stop beating yourself up. Be kind." Like be kind to yourself. And when you do that with yourself, it makes you the kind of person that can do that for other people.

• 31:06Lewis Howes?

  That's true.

• 31:07Speaker 01

  You cannot be that loving and that kind if you are horrible to yourself.

• 31:11Lewis Howes?

  That's true.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  Like no matter, I don't care how, you know, how loving and kind of a person you are in the exterior, it can't be as authentic if you hate yourself.

• 31:20Lewis Howes?

  That's true.

• 31:21Speaker 01

  So.

• 31:22Lewis Howes?

  When someone is facing with a level of self doubt that seems like they're at a level zero or one of confidence out of 10.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:32Lewis Howes?

  They doubt themselves. How do they build it up to an eight, nine, or 10 over time?

• 31:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 31:40Lewis Howes?

  And maybe, maybe they have a skill set that is talent. They have a lot of talent, like you had a lot of talent.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:46Lewis Howes?

  But maybe you didn't believe in it.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:48Lewis Howes?

  For a while, right?

• 31:49Speaker 01

  For a while, yeah.

• 31:50Lewis Howes?

  So how, how does someone increase their level or decrease their level of self doubt and become more confident?

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Well, first of all, I think that you have to realize there's hope. When I first realized I was anorexic, at first I was so hopeless. And I was devastated because I read that anorexia is incurable.

• 32:09Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  And I was like, "Oh, my gosh, like I'm gonna hate myself forever." Like this is incurable. I now understand what they mean when they say it's incurable. But I live a very healthy life. I just have to manage this like part of my brain that sometimes tries to come forward. Same with like depression, anxiety. They're a part of you now, but, and you, you can overcome them. You can manage them so that you just have to be aware when they try to sneak back in. You know, because it does. It tries to sneak back in when I'm stressed or depressed or up, you know. Like, I'm like, "Ooh, there you are. You're trying to come back, but I'm not gonna let you ever take over my life again." And I won't. But I think first of all, it's giving people hope and realizing that just because you're here today and your reality in this is so strong.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  And just because it's real to you, because depression and anorexia and anxiety, those are

• 32:59Lewis Howes?

  They're so strong.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  real things. They're real for you, but it doesn't mean they're true. Like self-hate is real, doesn't mean it's true. And start, so I think having hope that just because you're there today doesn't mean that you can't overcome this, because you will if you work at it. I mean, a hundred percent, if I can go from literally hating myself and having no confidence to being able to like play in front of, we played in front of seventeen thousand people two nights ago. And had an amazing show and I was able to share like messages and music and art and like I don't, that is not wasted on me. I am so grateful for it, for these experiences that I have because I came from a place of such darkness. And if I can get there, like what's to say anyone can't?

• 33:43Speaker 01

  Um, so first of all, but secondly, baby steps. Starting today, starting with the realization that I can make it through today. And I can make it through today and at the end of the day, I'm gonna write my gratitude journal and I'm gonna find three positive things that happened today. And then like taking these steps, okay, to, you know, and making them very practical, tangible steps. Like, don't try to be like, I'm gonna be confident and love myself a hundred percent today. That's exhausting. You can't just go from depression to like full-on love in

• 34:11Lewis Howes?

  One day.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  one day. And I used to hate it when I listened to people talk like that. They would be like, just be confident, just own yourself. That's impossible.

• 34:19Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  When you're in the midst of darkness and depression. I hate going back to the symbolism of the moon over and over again, but it doesn't go from darkness to full light in one day. It takes like a freaking month to reach its full moon status. And so, start with the practical things, whether it's go to therapy, get help, talk to someone. Look yourself in the eye every day. Say I love you. Talk to a friend. You know, just find the steps that work for you. Now I have this amazing tool belt around me that whenever, and I have like relationships and friends that I can turn to, these tools that I've built up through the years. And so now I have the ability, if I am feeling dark in a day, to like pull myself out of it, sometimes within an hour. Sometimes it takes a week if it's a really hard thing.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  In the case of loss and death, it took a year and a half. But didn't mean that in given days, I couldn't pull myself out and be like, I'm gonna be positive today. Like I've got this amazing arsenal of tools now that have helped me find happiness and light even amongst some extreme trials. Just baby steps. Take yourself where you're at and realize that there is hope to get to where you want to be.

• 35:25Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  You will far surpass what you thought you could do.

• 35:27Lewis Howes?

  So true. So true. One day at a time. You mentioned loss again. I've, you know, part of my, I feel like I'm a pretty balanced human being where I take on all my fears. Every year I write a list of my fears and then I try to overcome them.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 35:43Lewis Howes?

  From whether it be public speaking, to salsa dancing, to singing in public, to all these different things. I'm like, okay, what is an emotional fear for me?

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Ooh, yeah.

• 35:51Lewis Howes?

  Right?

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 35:52Lewis Howes?

  An inner fear, not like spiders or snakes, but like what's a thing that I would be embarrassed by or afraid or feel insecure about? And then I try to conquer those every year. I've never lost someone close to me. Except for grandparents who were, you know, it was their time. Right? I've never had a sudden loss. And it's a fear of mine.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:13Lewis Howes?

  Because I have a lot of great relationships and I know a lot of people. And I know it's just a matter of time where someone that I know.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  It's part of life.

• 36:22Lewis Howes?

  It's part of life.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:23Lewis Howes?

  And I don't know if it's gonna be, you know, in a few years or 10 years, but it's gonna happen eventually.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:29Lewis Howes?

  Someone is gonna die.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:30Lewis Howes?

  And it scares me. So, and I'm not saying like I want this to happen now because I don't wanna.

• 36:36Speaker 01

  Of course not. No.

• 36:37Lewis Howes?

  But how do you, how did you handle it when you had two very close relationships in the same, you know, in a very close period of time?

• 36:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:44Lewis Howes?

  Pass away? How would you, how did you handle it? And how are you gonna handle it in the future?

• 36:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:51Lewis Howes?

  When someone close to you passes?

• 36:53Speaker 01

  I don't think it gets easier. Like, you know what I mean? Like I lost my best friend, then I lost my dad. And it's not like, well, I've been through this once before. It was easier. I got this. Yeah, no, I think loss will always be extremely hard. But I learned that the heart is so resilient. I said when I lost my best friend, it was the first time I'd ever felt that kind of pain. And I just thought to myself, I will never be whole again. Wow. And then my dad died and I was like, I will never recover from this. Like, they were the two most important, most prevalent men in my life. Wow. And so, you know, but the heart heals. And the most amazing thing about it for me, I think, is my, I'm so grateful that I'm a very like spiritual

• 37:38Speaker 01

  and a very religious person because I've always believed in angels. And I think my belief in angels has like given me so much grace through this. Because as hard as it is, it's amazing that like that, that pain just gets like farther away. I always miss them. But it taught me to live in the moment with people. Because that's the thing you regret more than anything, like is just wishing that you could like relive some of those moments and like realize how special they were and like tell people how special they were. With my best friend, he passed away suddenly and I was like, oh my gosh, I never had a chance to say even goodbye. I never had a chance to like really tell him what he meant to me. And that was like devastating.

• 38:22Speaker 01

  But I believe in angels and since then, I feel like I have had some of the most beautiful experiences where I know they were close to me and I know they were guiding my steps. And it's like, I don't think they're far. I think that sometimes in a way that they're able to be with me more than they ever could have before. And they're a part of my adventures still. And I believe I'll see them again, like a hundred percent. And it just makes you remember how finite this life is. If you have a belief in an afterlife, like this life is just like a glimpse. You know, it's a moment and we'll be with our loved ones again. And I have, I'm going to share a story. I think I shared this at the summit of greatness. When I was on Dancing with the Stars, I realized about halfway through the season,

• 39:05Speaker 01

  like I almost had, I kind of had a mini panic attack or anxiety attack because I just realized. Again, what I had set out to do was impossible. Because I was going back and forth between ballroom rehearsals with Mark Ballas. And then I would, you know, we'd rehearse like six hours. Then I'd go to my tour rehearsals.

• 39:23Lewis Howes?

  Crazy.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  And we would rehearse a brand new show for Christmas for hours. And I was mentally, physically, emotionally, in every way, I was so drained. And then we left on tour and now I'm doing shows and meet and greets every day. Practicing with my partner every day and flying back and forth. From the east coast to the west coast to compete and I was beyond tired. Then I busted a rib.

• 39:45Lewis Howes?

  Oh.

• 39:46Speaker 01

  Didn't break, it just like, it just got injured.

• 39:49Lewis Howes?

  Dislocated or something.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, it got, it got dislocated.

• 39:51Lewis Howes?

  The worst pain when you break a rib or do anything with your ribs. Can't breathe.

• 39:54Speaker 01

  Breathing hurts.

• 39:55Lewis Howes?

  You can't breathe, you can't sneeze.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  Heaven forbid you sneeze.

• 39:58Lewis Howes?

  It's the worst.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  And so I, now I'm physically broken. And I went to the only place where I thought I could go and I prayed. And I got a blessing. That's something that we do in my faith is you can get a blessing of comfort and healing. And it's basically where like someone, you know, with the priesthood puts their hands on your head. And it's kind of like a prayer from God to you. And I was promised the angels were with me, guiding my footsteps. And more specifically, I was promised that my dad had been with me and would be with me for every step of this journey. And he wasn't gonna leave my side. And

• 40:35Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  I relied on that promise with everything inside of me because in the context of reality. And like a reality check, I was doomed.

• 40:46Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  Like, I did not have enough hours to sleep. I did not have enough hours to practice. There just were not enough hours in the day to do what I needed to do. And so every night when I would go to sleep, I would pray and I'd be like, I have four hours to sleep right now. And I'm exhausted. I'd be like, I need it to count as 10. And then I would go to sleep and I'd wake up the next morning, go to rehearsals and I'd be like, I have three hours to practice right now.

• 41:07Lewis Howes?

  Oh my gosh.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  I needed to count as 10. Like I need this to be maximized. And I prayed for miracles. And I tell you, when I stepped on that dance floor at Dancing with the Stars every time. I danced better than I possibly had the strength to dance.

• 41:20Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  And more specifically, I'm sorry, this is such a long story.

• 41:24Lewis Howes?

  I like it.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  But when we were at the finale, we made it all the way to the end. Final three, right? Yeah, final three. And Mark and I were rehearsing backstage, we're running through our routine, like, at this point, we hadn't slept, literally, in like 24 hours. We'd been on a red eye to get there. We're so tired, like, bloodshot eyes, literally just trying to make it through our last routine. And I went blank. You know how sometimes you just blink? Forgot. You just freeze. I mean, I was so drained. And we're back there rehearsing, and suddenly I just start missing like every step. And Mark's freaking out, he's like, "Are you okay?" He like shakes me, he's like, "Crazy, we're about to go out there and dance in front of millions of people." And I'm just like, "I got this. I got this." And then they call our names to go out and perform.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  And so I step onto the dance floor, and we get hit by the spotlight, and I'm like, panicking.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  I look up into that spotlight, and all I had time to say was like, a two-word prayer. And I'd prayed a ton by this point, but I just looked up and I said, "Dad, dad, help." And then the music started, and it was almost like a dream. Like, you ever have those experiences where you're almost like watching your life happen? You're watching a moment? And it was like I floated through the routine, and it happened so effortlessly. And I felt so powerful in that moment. And I did the routine perfectly. Wow. And when it ended, like, I ended up getting second place on Dancing with the Stars, but in that moment when it ended, I won. Wow. I don't care what anyone else says, like, and my partner too.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  You know, for a moment, for a whole night, I won Dancing with the Stars because I did the best I could have done, and I conquered what I set out to do. And no one can take that win away from me, like, no Mirrorball trophy, no anything. It just was such an experience of, yeah, people can tell you what you physically and emotionally can do and can't do. But miracles are real and angels are with you. I honestly imagine us walking through life with these like big angels around us all the time. And to this day, I pray for my angels. I pray specifically asking for my dad to help me with things. I pray for Gavi, my best friend, to help me. Like if I'm nervous for a specific show, I'm like, hey, be on stage with me. I prayed for Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers to like help me through dance rehearsals.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  Like, I pray for angels all the time. And I honestly believe that that's how miracles happen in our life. Because there's the finite of what you can and can't do. And then there's the unexplainable.

• 43:57Lewis Howes?

  That's true.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  And Dancing with the Stars is one of the, funny enough, one of the most spiritual moments of my life was on that stage because I did something that physically I can't do.

• 44:06Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  And yeah, believe in miracles, believe in angels. And I think that is a long way of saying loss is a finite thing in this life. However, you know, we miss them, but I think they're always with us.

• 44:18Lewis Howes?

  Hmm, gosh, great storyteller.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 44:21Lewis Howes?

  I love it. I love it.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  I love a good story. My dad was a great storyteller. I actually prayed for him today. My dad was such a good speaker and he was a great storyteller. And so as I was coming in today, I was like, help me to like just be able to speak clearly. And I was like, and like, please hope my dad will be here with me today to help me share like the way he would share. And I literally pray for angels all the time.

• 44:42Lewis Howes?

  That's powerful. That's powerful.

• 44:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:44Lewis Howes?

  There's something in the sports, when I reflect and just kind of observe the world, there's two different types of winners who are really successful in sports.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:56Lewis Howes?

  And they both have a lot of confidence. Here's the difference between the two. One winner, at the end of a game, when someone says, or a match or a fight, when someone says like, you just won, how did you do it? And they say, I am the greatest. This is like the Muhammad Ali, Conor McGregor, Mayweather approach to response. Like, tell me how you did it. Well, I'm the greatest. I worked so hard. I've got the talents. I'm the best in the world. I knew I would win type of mentality. And that works for some.

• 45:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:29Lewis Howes?

  And then there's the other that says, Well, God's the greatest.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:34Lewis Howes?

  And all my talents come from God, or from the, you know, my source, or the spirit of the universe.

• 45:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:40Lewis Howes?

  And they put the, the hope and the, the, the pressure on something else.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:46Lewis Howes?

  As opposed to like, I'm the best and I knew I would be able to do this.

• 45:49Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:50Lewis Howes?

  I knew I'd be able to give my best because of something else.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:53Lewis Howes?

  Something greater. And you do that really well. You, you, uh, you know, calling the angels and God and everything else. And you do that really well to give you the strength as opposed to, I have all the strength and the power. So I think that's really cool.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Well, thank you.

• 46:06Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, you do that.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  I think, I think it's exhausting.

• 46:08Lewis Howes?

  It's a lot of pressure.

• 46:09Speaker 01

  To like, be like, I'm the greatest. Like, everything's on me. Like, there's a lot to be said about the, the amount of calmness when you can hand it over to the universe, or hand it over to God and say like, you know what, I really believe a lot in it's meant to be or it's not meant to be. And like, there's a bigger picture. And there's so much pressure that gets taken off your shoulders if you realize that I'm doing the best I can. I did my part. I worked my tail off.

• 46:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  I was faithful. I prayed. I was kind. Like, all those things. Like, I did my best to be the best I could and show up with everything I've got in the I'm the greatest form. But like, cause you gotta believe that you are good at what you do and that you are confident and you are great. So it's like, you show up with that, but if you also couple it with the, well, but I mean, I'm not the greatest. Like, I have this amazing team of support around me of angels and God. Like, I think that just adds an extra element of like, power to you.

• 47:04Lewis Howes?

  Power. It's unlimited power.

• 47:05Speaker 01

  Unlimited. And then it's not about me. It's like, I showed up the best I could be, but at the end of the day, like, God's gonna direct me and take me where I need to be. And there's a lot of comfort that comes from that. Like, I think it takes a lot of the bitterness out of life of the losses, like not winning Dancing with the Stars when I, I killed it.

• 47:21Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. You dominated it.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  I dominated that show, you know?

• 47:24Lewis Howes?

  Who, who actually won that?

• 47:25Speaker 01

  Uh, Jordan Fisher won. Amazing. He's amazing. Like, incredible. I still think I just as much deserved to win. But it takes the bitterness out of it, or like the, oh, the anger of like, or like not winning America's Got Talent at the time, like, heck, I'm so glad I didn't win that show because God had a different, much bigger plan for me than,

• 47:43Lewis Howes?

  That's true.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  You know, if I'd won that show, I would be in a very different place than I am now.

• 47:47Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  You know, and sometimes things are just not meant to be.

• 47:49Lewis Howes?

  It's not meant to be.

• 47:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:51Lewis Howes?

  What's missing in your life right now?

• 47:52Speaker 01

  I mean, gosh, I think I've always wanted a family. Like, someday, I think it's,

• 47:56Lewis Howes?

  How old are you now?

• 47:57Speaker 01

  I'm thirty-two.

• 47:58Lewis Howes?

  All right.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  It's a good age to be.

• 48:00Lewis Howes?

  It's a good age to be.

• 48:02Speaker 01

  But yeah, I think for me, like, I want to have a life partner, like, to go through life with, you know, and I want to have, I want to have kids, I want to have that experience. And like, a lot of my friends are in that phase, like, my sisters are all in that phase of having, like, multiple children and raising them. And that's a chapter of my life that I think I want to have. And I know I will have someday when the timing is right. And there have been times when I've been disappointed that I'm not there yet.

• 48:24Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 48:24Speaker 01

  You know, yeah. Honestly, I grew up thinking I'd be married at like 20. I just always thought I'd get married super young. And then, once I got to 20, I was like, no, I've got things to do.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  But yeah, I think that there have been times when I've just craved having a life partner because I think when you're a, like, you know, an artist, sometimes the artist route can be a little bit lonely. Even though I tour with tons of people, you know, and I'm on the road, it's, I've got all these people surrounding me, but still, there's a little bit of...

• 48:51Lewis Howes?

  You want to sleep alone, with your dog, yeah.

• 48:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuddle up with my chihuahua, which is great, I love, I love you Luna. But yeah, I think that it's important to just, again, hand that over and be like, I truly believe that that will happen for me when the timing is right. Even though sometimes I don't always, I want it now, and I do get discouraged, and I have cried about it, like, I'm not to say that I'm always just like, it's fine. Just because I get that perspective at times when I'm clear doesn't mean that I don't have moments in all of these things, whether it's success or being disappointed that something didn't do well, or like, relationships, like, doesn't mean I haven't, in the moment, been devastated by things. I just then go and remind myself that, like, it's gonna be okay.

• 49:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. What would be the, uh, the perfect partner for you? What would that person have emotionally, spiritually?

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, the perfect guy, alright, take notes, fellows out there.

• 49:40Lewis Howes?

  Or just what's, what's something you're looking for? What's, what would be your match?

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Well, I think spirituality is a big thing to me. Obviously, I'd want someone that can have a belief in something greater than themselves and have faith and hope. I think also, someone with a sense of humor. Life's too short, you gotta learn to laugh through life. And I think everybody has their own type of humor. You just have to find someone that has your same odd sense, because we all have these odd senses of humor, and we're all quirky, and finding someone that gets your quirkiness. And I think, also, we all have to, in a way, I think when you fall in love with someone, you're also falling in love with the version of yourself that they bring out of you. I mean, I think that 100%. Like, everybody brings out, whether it's a friendship, or a working relationship, or a, like, a partner, they bring out a different part of you, and you want someone

• 50:26Speaker 01

  that brings a part of you out that you love to be. And so I think that's a huge part of it.

• 50:31Lewis Howes?

  What, what part of you would you love to be more of that they would bring out of you?

• 50:36Speaker 01

  Ooh, sometimes I get super hyper focused. I had this, like, I think it's, people are so fascinating. We all have different sides of our personality. You have like your core side and then you've got your secondary personality. And sometimes my secondary personality becomes dominant because it's the red side of me. That's like the task oriented, work hard, A, B, C equals D. Like I have that side of myself, but that's my secondary side. My first side is playful, fun loving. Like, you know, I'm a yellow. I'm a performer. I'm a creative. But when I let my red take over the yellow, I'm unbalanced. And so I think someone who brings out that playful side of me

• 51:16Speaker 01

  and keeps that like childlike person alive, I think that's, I think that's the side that I need in a partner to bring out. Because sometimes my red, it's good at being strong on its own. I don't need someone that brings that out of me. I can do that on my own.

• 51:31Lewis Howes?

  Okay, bring out the playful side.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, you, I, I wanna play through life. I wanna like have a, I wanna have that in my family. I wanna have a family that like not only knows how to, kids that know how to work hard and understand the value of a dollar, like the way I was raised, but also like my home also had a lot of love and play in it. And I think that's why I got to where I'm at. Like we were allowed to play and play big.

• 51:53Lewis Howes?

  That's great. Yeah. Who taught you to play big?

• 51:57Speaker 01

  Both my mom and my dad. Like my dad was a writer and he, very playful and he was a great storyteller. And as hard as he worked, he always made time for his kids. And like, I didn't, I remember at his funeral, I think funerals are some of the most inspiring things I've ever been to. Both my dad and my best friend's funerals, I left being like, I want to be a better person.

• 52:20Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  Um, the spirit was just so strong there. But I remember at my dad's funeral, like person after person after person got up and told these stories about how he made time for them and how he made them feel seen. In ways that was just like, I was like, where did this man find time to do this? I knew he did that for me. I didn't know he did that for the neighbor down the street. I didn't know.

• 52:42Lewis Howes?

  The milkman.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  I didn't know, yeah, like people at our church, his students told stories about how he made. I was just like, somehow he found all the time in the world to make people feel seen while he was still a super hardworking. And that's the part of me I want to make sure it doesn't get hidden is that the time that you make time to not only play, but you see people and you make people feel seen. Because at the end of the day, if you just work, work, work, work, work and don't let people know that you see them, whether it's like, you know, my dancers on tour or like, it's or my fans, making sure that they feel that I see you. At the end of the day, we all crave just being seen and understood. And that's one of the things more than anything I think I learned.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  My dad raising us made us all feel so seen and understood.

• 53:29Lewis Howes?

  That's powerful.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I want to, I want to do that for people and if I let my red personality take over, I miss that completely.

• 53:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 53:38Lewis Howes?

  What do you think your dad would be most proud of you today?

• 53:40Speaker 01

  Oh, my dad was so proud of me, I'm gonna cry.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  He was so proud of me back when no one knew who I was.

• 53:49Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 53:50Speaker 01

  You know, he was my biggest fan, but like the thing is not only me, like my sisters, he was all of our biggest fans. And I think that's one of the things that's so powerful. He didn't care about like, the fact that I had like millions of followers or something, like each one of us. I remember a story when like I was a teenager and I had to run late at night. I was on the cross country team and I would run through the summers to stay in shape. But Arizona is so hot in the summer. Miserable. So he would drive in his car behind me.

• 54:24Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  While I ran at night so that one I'd be safe and I wouldn't be alone. And so he didn't have to run with me. Like he would sit in his Buick Skylark and drive. Actually, that car didn't have AC, so he's out there in the heat too. What a way to show your daughter that you're her biggest fan.

• 54:40Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  You know, like, I'll, yeah, I'll drive in the car with you at like 10 o'clock at night, so you can go running. And I know that my dad would be the most proud of me, not for the music, not for the fame, but for the fact that I've done my best to stay true to myself. And, um, you know, stay true to my faith. And, you know, I'm not perfect in it, for sure. But it's something important to me that I had made a commitment when I first saw that I was being successful. I was like, I don't want that to change in my life. And as much as like the industry and the world has like tugged and pulled at me, that's my core. It's one of my core things. And I think my dad would be really proud to see that I haven't let go of something that's been actually hard to maintain. Um, but that's a piece of me.

• 55:24Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, that's powerful. I know he'd be inspired, for sure.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  Love you, Dad. I know he's here.

• 55:30Lewis Howes?

  Yes. You're going on tour right now.

• 55:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, about to leave.

• 55:34Lewis Howes?

  You got the new album, going on tour. Where can people watch you? Live?

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Oh, man, people can watch live, I mean.

• 55:41Lewis Howes?

  You're going all over the country.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  I'm touring all over the world. Um, we'll be in Europe this fall. We're doing a Christmas tour in the States in the winter.

• 55:48Lewis Howes?

  I want to go to the Christmas one.

• 55:50Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh, come!

• 55:51Lewis Howes?

  I think it'd be so inspiring.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  Yes, I'll, I'll send you the dates when we're close to, I know we're like an hour outside of LA. But yeah.

• 55:56Lewis Howes?

  If I'm here, I'll come.

• 55:57Speaker 01

  Come to the Christmas tour. That's gonna be across the States. And then we're gonna do the new album Artemis Tour in the spring in the States. So, and we'll be hitting South America as well in the early part of the year, so we'll be everywhere. I mean, literally, I'm gonna tour the world in the next six months.

• 56:12Lewis Howes?

  You're a machine.

• 56:12Speaker 01

  I'm a machine!

• 56:13Lewis Howes?

  You're a machine.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  I'm going!

• 56:14Lewis Howes?

  So the, the album's already out?

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Um, some of the singles are out.

• 56:18Lewis Howes?

  On Spotify?

• 56:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, so you can catch it on Spotify. Um, the album drops September 6th. The comic book will drop shortly thereafter. We're hoping by, you know, beginning of September. But yeah.

• 56:30Lewis Howes?

  It's amazing.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  I'm excited.

• 56:31Lewis Howes?

  So we can find it all where? Where's the best place to find a tour? The comic?

• 56:37Speaker 01

  Tour dates, I mean, lindystirling.com. You'll see my tour dates, you'll see like links to the album. You can also, of course, find me on Spotify. Come visit my YouTube channel. That's where I feel like I, like if you want to get a taste of what my art is, my little music videos are my babies.

• 56:52Lewis Howes?

  Some of them have like, what's some of the biggest views? Like tens of millions, right?

• 56:56Speaker 01

  Oh, Louis.

• 56:58Lewis Howes?

  Some of the videos have like tens of millions of views, right?

• 57:00Speaker 01

  I've got a couple over.

• 57:01Lewis Howes?

  Over a hundred million?

• 57:02Speaker 01

  I've got a couple over 200 million.

• 57:04Lewis Howes?

  200 million?

• 57:04Speaker 01

  I've got a couple that are that big, yeah.

• 57:06Lewis Howes?

  It's amazing.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  Thank you. And then, yeah, there's, there's some in like anywhere from like 10 million to like up to 200.

• 57:12Lewis Howes?

  200 million.

• 57:13Speaker 01

  50 million, so I'm so blessed, so grateful. It's amazing. I still sometimes I'm like, I play the violin and dance around.

• 57:20Lewis Howes?

  Like a fairy?

• 57:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, like a little woodland fairy. How the heck do I have these kind of numbers and, you know, how come people show up to my shows? But I'm really excited for this tour. We literally just finished like prepping it, rehearsals, costumes. It's gonna be so much fun. It's, it's a story, so I hope people come and check out this, you know, the, the new themes, the new music, yeah.

• 57:43Lewis Howes?

  You're one of the most inspiring performers on stage I've seen.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  Really?

• 57:48Lewis Howes?

  When I watched you at the, was it the Greek Theater?

• 57:51Speaker 01

  The Greek, yeah.

• 57:51Lewis Howes?

  Greek Theater, you're amazing. And then when I watched you at my event, Summon of Greatness, I was like in tears. I swear to you, because it was like, I was watching from the side and I could see you. It was like these, these lights were just glistening off your body and these shadows were like dancing around with you. And it was just this beautiful setting to see people just like in awe of you. I was like, I know her, that's my friend. I was like, she's amazing. It was so cool.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 58:19Lewis Howes?

  I don't know how you do it. You dance with so much grace.

• 58:23Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 58:23Lewis Howes?

  And. Love. And you it's like you don't miss anything when you're playing too. I don't know how you don't miss the notes.

• 58:32Speaker 01

  Well, it's definitely.

• 58:33Lewis Howes?

  Or you maybe maybe you tricked us, but it seems like you're not missing anything. It sounds so good and you just dance with so much.

• 58:38Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 58:38Lewis Howes?

  Passion and energy that is inspiring for people.

• 58:42Speaker 01

  Well, I truly love performing.

• 58:44Lewis Howes?

  You're amazing.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  I love entertaining. That's why I write the music. That's why I like work so hard. That's is all for that moment to like entertain. Since the time I was a child, I've just craved to like see people smile through like sharing. And there's nothing like that is when, you know, when I'm out on the stage and I'm like reminded that like these people, actually, I remember at the show at the Greek, usually I can only see the front like two rows and everything else is glazed. And I usually try to kind of glaze everything over because I'm focused. But like occasionally you'll catch these like smiles and you'll catch these like or tears from people. And it was funny, for some reason, the audience at the Greek was very lit. It was very strange, but I remember getting super nervous and being like almost thrown off because I'm like, oh, there's Lewis Howes. Oh, there's Lucy Singh. There's Derek Howes. Like weird.

• 59:30Speaker 01

  People, not only can I see like so many faces, but I see people I know. It was very strange, but no, I love performing. Yeah, for anyone who hasn't come to a show, they're very theatrical.

• 59:39Lewis Howes?

  It's amazing.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  Lots of costumes, lots of dancing, lots of storytelling.

• 59:43Lewis Howes?

  It's worth it.

• 59:44Speaker 01

  And I I hope you guys come out to the show, but yeah, I'll get you get you out to the Christmas show.

• 59:48Lewis Howes?

  I would love to. Yeah, it's worth it. Make sure you guys go to the show. Go to Lindsay Sterling dot com. Follow you on YouTube, Instagram. You're on Instagram a lot too.

• 59:55Speaker 01

  I'm on the gram. Yeah, come follow me on the gram.

• 59:57Lewis Howes?

  I'm trying on TikTok, so maybe you'll get on TikTok in the future.

• 1:00:00Speaker 01

  TikTok.

• 1:00:01Lewis Howes?

  We'll check it out. So anywhere you're at Twitter, everything like that. And I think I asked you this question last time. This is called the three truths.

• 1:00:06Speaker 01

  Oh, I should have. I I thought about this because I knew you would ask me. Okay.

• 1:00:11Lewis Howes?

  Okay, so imagine it's your last day, many years from now, on this earth, right?

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:00:17Lewis Howes?

  And you've achieved every big dream you want.

• 1:00:19Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:00:20Lewis Howes?

  You've manifested it. You've got the partner, the family, you've got the albums, magazines, whatever you want to create. You've done it.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:00:28Lewis Howes?

  But for whatever reason, you got to take it all with you.

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:00:30Lewis Howes?

  To wherever you go next. So no one has access to any of your content anymore. Your video is with trillions of views now. They don't have them anymore. They're not available for us. But you get to leave behind three things you know to be true. Three lessons that you would leave behind to this earth. From your experiences of your life. That would be the lessons that you would pass on to someone else. What would be those three things, three truths?

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  Okay, so I thought about this. So I was caught off guard last time. I was like, oh no, three? For sure, my first one would be. There is something so much bigger than you. And I've talked about that many times in this podcast, but just like. When you limit yourself to the finite and what you see in front of you. You limit yourself so much, but believe that there is. Like whether it's God or whether it's the universe. Reach out to it and wish and believe that there is something there. For you to be helped by. Because when you do that, it's amazing what you can accomplish. It goes beyond your physical abilities and your own mind and your own strength. Because there is something definitely out there. That will lift you when you feel like you have no strength. So believe in something greater than yourself.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  Dang it. Secondly, be intentional. Don't just limit yourself to the reactions that come to you naturally. Because sometimes those come from places where. That life has taken you and you're letting life be the guide and situations be the guide. Be intentional, decide that you want to be grateful. But I think practicing being intentional, whether it's writing in a gratitude journal every night. Deciding how you want to show up to something or. Listening to the voice in your head and saying, no, I don't want to believe that. Be intentional with your thoughts and how you feel about yourself and own that. Write your own, that's the only way you actually write your own story. And third, I would say. See people as people. I think a lot of times.

• 1:02:21Speaker 01

  We just are so stuck in like the only person we truly understand these deep emotions from is ourself. If you're like every once in a while be in a crowd of people and I'll look around and I'll suddenly get like actually overwhelmed because I realize. Every single person, like these thousands of people all walking through the streets right now. All have so much on their heart. They have dreams, they have pain. This person just wants to be a dancer and they like they're struggling so hard to try to be that. This person can't pay their bills, but they also are so excited about this because they just had a baby and like. Everybody has so much on their heart and once you see people as like. People, love takes over and kindness takes over. And you are a different person to other people. When we just see people, for me, it's that we're all children of God.

• 1:03:06Speaker 01

  We're all equal and suddenly prejudice is gone. All status is gone. We're all human and we're all filled with so much hope and fear and love and everything. And you realize we're all the same.

• 1:03:16Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  And I think seeing humanity is a really powerful reality check sometimes. Okay, that was really long, but those are my three truths.

• 1:03:24Lewis Howes?

  I love those. I love them. When you're going to somewhere like Mexico or another country, do you have a translator? Speak on stage? Because I wish people could hear your messages when you do get on stage.

• 1:03:37Speaker 01

  That's always one thing like I've thought about doing. Actually, when we go to Europe, I'm having some dialogues and monologues translated. And like they're going to be on like a voiceover.

• 1:03:46Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 1:03:46Speaker 01

  Because I was always like, yeah, I love to share messages from the stage.

• 1:03:50Lewis Howes?

  You're amazing at it.

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  I always hope that people will come. I want them to be entertained at the show, thoroughly entertained, but I also want them to leave uplifted. And yeah, when there's a language barrier, that's a little bit difficult to do through words. But I will say at my meet and greets, I always have like these like chats with my fans. And I actually started crying. I think it was in Monterey when my fans, they were so sweet and they were so loving. And I just was like so grateful, this connection moment of like here I'm in Mexico. I barely, we barely could communicate and yet they shared so much love with me that it was like, yeah.

• 1:04:22Lewis Howes?

  You didn't even speak.

• 1:04:23Speaker 01

  Humanity. Like these are all people who are expressing to me through like broken English. I'm trying to understand through my like tiny bit of Spanish. Like they're just expressing me that like what you've done has made a difference to me. And I was like, wow, what you're saying in this moment is making a difference to me. And that's humanity at its basic, you know? We're all the same. We're just trying to make it through life and trying to like love each other and uplift and make it through.

• 1:04:44Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Well, Lindsay, you're one of my favorite people.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you. I love coming here.

• 1:04:49Lewis Howes?

  I love connecting with you, even though we don't have that much time together throughout the year. But I really want to acknowledge you because you bring so much joy and light to the world.

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you.

• 1:04:59Lewis Howes?

  And through all the challenges you've been through, you continue to rise above them and be an inspiration to so many people. And again, I just, when I see you on stage two times, I was just like, it moved me so emotionally.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:05:13Lewis Howes?

  And I love that you show up with that light and that love.

• 1:05:18Lewis Howes?

  You help heal so many people. So I'm very grateful for you. I acknowledge you for just being an incredible human being. And for having such high values and standards in life. And I think you're a great example and model for what a human being should be. So I'm very grateful for you.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh, well, thank you.

• 1:05:36Lewis Howes?

  Of course.

• 1:05:36Speaker 01

  Thank you so much. I was so nice. And I just want to acknowledge you. Do you ever get acknowledged?

• 1:05:41Lewis Howes?

  Once in a while.

• 1:05:42Speaker 01

  Do you ever get acknowledged?

• 1:05:43Lewis Howes?

  Sometimes.

• 1:05:43Speaker 01

  OK, well, I want to acknowledge you for the amount of good and positivity and like information, just like practically. Like, it's one thing to stand up there and say like, "Love yourself, be good." You help people find very practical ways to have self-love. You're a voice for power. You're a voice for people to find their best inner self. And you share that with the world in such practical, tangible ways. And now you're doing it through live events. Like, I think that the amount of love that you give to the world is incredible. And it's so apparent, whenever I'm around you, I feel my power. Like, literally. And I think that's an amazing gift that you have to make. When you're around people, they are aware of their own gifts.

• 1:06:27Speaker 01

  So I just want to say, I want to acknowledge you as well for the power you share.

• 1:06:32Lewis Howes?

  I appreciate it, Lindsay, thank you. OK, final question, what's your definition of greatness?

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  Oh, I wasn't prepared for that one. I forgot about that one. My definition of greatness, I think my definition of greatness is doing everything you can to show up in your best state, whether that's hustling harder, working harder, whatever it is, showing up the best you can, but then accepting the results. And like, still loving yourself in spite, or, you know, not because of the results, but in spite of the results, whether it's the results you want, or whether it's the results that you didn't want. Because we all show up, and sometimes we get, sometimes we don't. So showing up with everything you've got in your power, then accepting

• 1:07:13Lewis Howes?

  That's it.

• 1:07:13Speaker 01

  that you're still great regardless.

• 1:07:16Lewis Howes?

  You're the best, Lindsay, appreciate you. Thank you very much.

• 1:07:18Speaker 01

  Thank you, that was so fun.

• 1:07:19Lewis Howes?

  Appreciate it.

• 1:07:23Lewis Howes?

  My friends, I hope you enjoyed this interview with the incredibly inspiring Lindsay Sterling, one of my favorite people to watch perform and be around. I don't spend enough time with her because she's traveling the world on tour, performing in front of 10, 20,000 people a night, screaming fans everywhere, and inspiring people with her dreams. But every time I'm around her, it's always a positive experience. If you enjoyed this, share this link with one friend. Just shoot them a text, put it in a WhatsApp group message, put it in Slack, put it on your Instagram stories and tag me, Lewis Howes, and at Lindsay Sterling, because I'm sure she would love to hear how you thought about this episode. And leave me a review over on Apple Podcast. I don't care

• 1:08:08Lewis Howes?

  if you leave a one star or a five star like most people do. I want to see your reviews and your comments. How can we improve? How can we make this better for you? What are the other types of content you're looking for? Let me know by leaving a review over on Apple Podcast right now. You are a special human being. You are here for a reason because you want to learn, you want to grow, you want to improve your life, and that is special. Not many people in the world are constantly seeking the wisdom and the mind food to feed their souls, to grow and improve their joy, their happiness, their fulfillment, and really make their dreams come true. And as Harriet Tubman said, "Every great dream begins with a dreamer." Always remember you have within you

• 1:08:50Lewis Howes?

  the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars, to change the world. You are a dreamer, my friend, but you've got to be willing to have the patience, the passion, and the strength to continue through all the adversity that is going to come your way. Because you will fail, and you will fail hard on your face. You will break bones. You will, it'll be ugly. It's not going to be fun. You're going to embarrass yourself. Lindsay talked about how she embarrassed herself in front of millions of people on TV, and that was a great lesson to help her get better and learn and improve. So whatever it is you're going through, just know it's part of the process to achieving your dreams. I love you so very much. You know what time it is. It's time to go out there and do something great.