499 Julianne Hough: Live With Passion and Love Every Day

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  This is episode number 499 with Julianne Hough.

• 0:07Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 0:33Lewis Howes?

  You've got to dance like there's nobody watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing like there's nobody listening, and live like it's heaven on earth.

• 0:45Lewis Howes?

  William Perkey said that, and I want to say thank you so much for being here. We've got a great episode today. Her name is Julianne Hough, and I'm super excited to introduce you to her. If you don't know who she is, she's an incredible singer, dancer, and actress, and amazing, inspiring, young female entrepreneur who's just doing some incredible things in the world right now. But before we dive in and I tell you more, now let's get back into our incredibly inspiring and talented guest today. Her name is Julianne Hough, and she is a dancer, singer, and actress entrepreneur, and she's taken over the world. She's a two-time professional champion of ABC's Dancing with the Stars. Her first leading acting role was in the 2011 film remake of Footloose. She also joined Dancing with the Stars as a permanent fourth judge.

• 1:31Lewis Howes?

  She won a Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Choreography in 2015, and in 2016, she played Sandy in the live Fox television production of Grease. And in this interview, we talk about how a Tony Robbins seminar changed her perspective on who she was trying to be in the world. Also, her experiences being in a professional dance environment at 10 years old in London. Her struggle with perfectionism and trying to keep up and not feeling good enough even when she won something. How she shifted her passion and drive after realizing she just needed to please herself and not please others. How to divide your time widely.

• 2:10Lewis Howes?

  When you're a multi-passionate with so many projects you're working on and family and relationships, that and so much more, guys, I really hope you enjoy this one. This is actually an interview we did over a couple of years ago, episode number 148, but so many people haven't heard this one that I felt like we needed to bring it back. So make sure to check out lewishouse.com/499 to watch the full video interview. Also, if you want to see me doing some salsa dancing with Julianne Hough, go check it out at lewishouse.com/499 as well. But this is one of the most favorite episodes I've ever done. I hope you enjoy it and I believe there's a lot of inspiration to be learned from Julianne's story.

• 2:51Lewis Howes?

  So without further ado, let's jump into this one with the one, the only Julianne Hough.

• 2:58Lewis Howes?

  So, welcome to the School of Greatness Podcast. Julianne Hough, good to see you. Thanks so much for coming on.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  Thank you. Thanks for having me.

• 3:04Lewis Howes?

  I'm so pumped that we're gonna salsa dance afterwards and hopefully get this on film because I just had so much fun dancing with you.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  I know, that was so fun. I literally, because I told you, like, I do choreographed stuff or I try to teach people, but like, the way that you just could lead me, that's like the greatest gift for a girl. It's like when a guy can just lead you.

• 3:22Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 3:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:23Lewis Howes?

  Because you've never really gone out into a club and just been like, let's do this, like, non-choreographed, just improv, right?

• 3:29Speaker 02

  No, yeah, I mean, like, hey, when I'm, when I'm out and I'm having a good time, like, I'll just dance, but I usually dance by myself.

• 3:34Lewis Howes?

  Really? You just do your own little choreography, yeah. Very cool.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  So, yeah, I'd love to go.

• 3:39Lewis Howes?

  All right, well, we'll, we'll record afterwards and maybe I'll take you out in LA sometime. Get you and your boyfriend to come out.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, for sure.

• 3:45Lewis Howes?

  So I'm excited to meet you and talk with you and your energy is just so magnetic. And I know why people love you because of your smile and your energy and your passion. And it comes across in all of your dancing, your singing and your acting. So I just want to say thanks for the way you show up in the world because it's really powerful.

• 4:04Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 4:04Lewis Howes?

  And that's a lot of fun.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  That really means a lot because I feel like that's, that's something that I kind of learned, I think, over the years, that I think that that's, I think that's something that I, that I want to give to the world. Like, I want to, I want to be a light and I want to be like a light of love and joy to give to the world and inspire others and so, thanks.

• 4:24Lewis Howes?

  Well, you're doing it. So I want to start off with gratitude. I'm, I'm ingrained on gratitude in my life and I live it constantly. So I want to ask you, what are you most grateful for recently in your life?

• 4:32Speaker 02

  Most, most recently? Wow.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  I'm grateful, gratitude is a huge one for me also, so I mean, the thing that I'm most grateful for at this moment,

• 4:44Speaker 02

  and I know that it's cliche to say my family, but that's what I'm really, really grateful for right now.

• 4:48Lewis Howes?

  That's cool, yeah, and you're the youngest, right?

• 4:50Speaker 02

  I'm the baby, yeah.

• 4:51Lewis Howes?

  Me too.

• 4:53Speaker 02

  I love the baby.

• 4:54Lewis Howes?

  Is there five of you or four of you?

• 4:55Speaker 02

  There's five.

• 4:56Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, there's four of us.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 4:57Lewis Howes?

  Very cool. But I want to talk about how this all began. Because you're, you know, movie star, you're a celebrity, you're a dance team with the stars, you're now a judge, singer, lots of different things happening, but how did it all begin? Was it all starting out with dance, or were you actually singing and acting before then as well?

• 5:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, when I was, when I was a kid, my oldest sister, Shari, she was a ballet dancer, so we kind of were just dragged along, you know, and like my, my brother wanted to play sports, but he had to dance, so.

• 5:30Speaker 02

  And yeah, we, we started dancing, but then we would be in plays all the time where we were acting and singing and I was always the youngest, so I wasn't technically allowed to be in any of the classes because it was, you know, I was too young, but I would come home and I would know all the lyrics, I would know the dance moves and like, yeah, I, I would go and watch and I, I'm very visual.

• 5:50Lewis Howes?

  Gotcha, so you would just go and watch in the corner and just pretty much do the moves in your, in your mind?

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Completely, yeah.

• 5:56Lewis Howes?

  And come back and do it.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, so.

• 5:58Lewis Howes?

  So you're like an understudy?

• 5:59Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, exactly, like, but I am, I'm very visual, like, like I would always say in school, I was not very, I wasn't my best in school because it was all a lot of like, like audio or like I had to see it like or write it down and like for me it's, it's, it's show me how it's done and I can do it, but.

• 6:18Lewis Howes?

  I was exactly, that's funny because I had a second grade reading level when I was in eighth grade.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 6:22Lewis Howes?

  And I just couldn't learn in school, like books were just so challenging for me to understand and comprehend.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, me too.

• 6:28Lewis Howes?

  But sports, I was like, let's be moving and active and I could pick it up, you know?

• 6:31Speaker 02

  That's, that's me for sure, yeah.

• 6:35Lewis Howes?

  Think of for sports.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:37Lewis Howes?

  And dance.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  Well, hey, dancing is a sport in my opinion, so yeah.

• 6:40Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, very cool. Uh, so you got into it early, but you were living in the States and then you moved to London to start kind of training more full-time, right?

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, so we were at the studio in, in Utah and um, my brother and I were there and we were kind of...

• 6:55Lewis Howes?

  How old were you, say?

• 6:56Speaker 02

  I was like eight years old and from like eight to 10, I was really, I was really into it and I loved it so much and we had our dance coaches from England, they would come to, to Utah at our studio and they would teach like once, once, uh, once every like three months.

• 7:13Lewis Howes?

  Like a workshop?

• 7:14Speaker 02

  A workshop and we'd be with all these adults and my brother and I'd be like eight, nine, you know, years old and we'd be the first ones to raise our hands and we'd be in the front row and like, we were so passionate about it and, and then, yeah, and then like my parents were going through a divorce at the time, so it was kind of a good way to kind of get us out of the house for a little bit and like have us go have this amazing experience while they're figuring out their stuff. So, we decided that um, we were gonna go to London, live with our dance coaches.

• 7:43Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  And...

• 7:44Lewis Howes?

  How old were you when you...

• 7:45Speaker 02

  I was 10.

• 7:45Lewis Howes?

  10.

• 7:46Speaker 02

  My brother was 13.

• 7:47Lewis Howes?

  So you started when you were eight?

• 7:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:49Lewis Howes?

  And two years later, you moved to London with your dance coaches, wow.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, and so, and I was doing ballarm dancing, tap, jazz, hip-hop, whatever, um, but the ballarm and the Latin wasn't as uh, refined. I was just, I guess, gifted in that, but I, but I wasn't, I didn't really have the technique.

• 8:06Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  And so when we went to England, um, it was pretty cool, cause I was 10 years old, I moved there and I was like, wait, I thought there were gonna be horse-drawn carriages and like big dresses and little guys with spectacles and like...

• 8:20Lewis Howes?

  It was like dark and dreary and bad food.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  And it was like, people were wearing normal clothes and like, and it was gonna be like Dickens or something. Um, but anyway, so I got there and um, yeah, I was like the youngest and, and I just, it was intensive because I was competing against older kids.

• 8:37Lewis Howes?

  It was like professionals, right?

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:39Lewis Howes?

  Or semi-professional?

• 8:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, semi-professional, but they were all older than me and so I would watch the girls and I would just, I would try to pick up everything that I could from these like really mature, you know, 16-year-olds at 10 and then like 20-year-olds and like, you know, and I would pick it up and... It was intensive, but I always say like if you're the best in your class, then go to another class because like that's not gonna teach you, that's just gonna kinda keep you there. So yeah, so it was really intensive, but it was awesome.

• 9:07Lewis Howes?

  I really like that because you know, I'm always looking to increase my circle of influence and surround myself with people in business at a different level than me, not at my level, but really expand myself. It sounds like the same thing, you know, and also in sports, we were always trying to play against the varsity guys and you know, just to get better. That's cool. So how long were you there for?

• 9:26Speaker 02

  I was supposed to stay for three months and I ended up staying for five years. Yeah, so till I was 15. And it was, it was a really amazing experience because it taught me like to come out of my bubble, which was in Utah, which is a very, you know, very conservative community. And then I would go to England and it was just like the complete opposite. And anyway, so we, we went there and, and like I grew up really, really fast. And I think I was more mature at 15 than I am now.

• 10:00Lewis Howes?

  You're like a kid now?

• 10:02Speaker 02

  I'm a kid now, whereas like I had to really grow up really fast and I was really responsible and I, and I was always perfect and on time and you know, like all those things. And now I'm kinda just more laid back and enjoy the moment. And so, so anyway, so I came back when I was 15, I was like, I just wanna go to high school. I wanna know what it feels like to be a normal kid. And so I went to high school and after three days I was like, alright, I'm done.

• 10:24Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  But I had to obviously finish. So, so yeah, I graduated when I was 18 and I came out to LA with $2,000 and I told my dad I had five. I don't know why $3,000 made more of a difference, but in my mind it did. So yeah, I came out with $2,000 and yeah.

• 10:44Lewis Howes?

  So what I'm curious about is at 10 years old, you're thrown into the mix of like this, you know, ballroom from my understanding is very sensual, very sexual, very like risque. You have to really be in the moment and like get in the zone. Otherwise, if you're not convincing, then no one's gonna be convinced in you.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  Completely.

• 11:03Lewis Howes?

  If you're not enrolling, then no one's gonna be enrolled in your performance.

• 11:08Lewis Howes?

  So what were some of those experiences like, you know, when you're 10 to 15? Having to be this sexual sensual woman or perfect like you said and like have curves when you didn't have curves and all these things.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:21Lewis Howes?

  What was that like and what came up for you during that time?

• 11:23Speaker 02

  Confusing.

• 11:24Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  That's like the best word that I can put for it because it was confusing because even at like seven, eight, nine years old when I was in Utah. I, people used to tell me like, she's really sexy.

• 11:37Lewis Howes?

  Seven?

• 11:38Speaker 02

  At seven, yeah. And it's weird because I didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong. But I, I just felt it, you know, and like I would just dance. And then of course that was heightened when I went to, um, when I went to England because

• 11:52Lewis Howes?

  Professional.

• 11:53Speaker 02

  It was professional level and like we're competing every week and I was performing and competing against people that were older than me.

• 12:00Lewis Howes?

  You gotta show a lot of skin and like.

• 12:01Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. And, and like that part never really bothered me. I don't know why, I just, I don't know. But the, the part that I will always remember is being 10 years old and they had fake boob cups in the dress. Yeah, and I would like poke them and they would stay.

• 12:16Lewis Howes?

  No way.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  Because I was like flat, like I was 10 years old, you know? And so it was, it was that same thing of like overly kind of sexualizing like a kid, which I think there's good and bad to that. I think like it's great for what it is and like it taught me a lot, but at the same time it's confusing when I would have to go and be my 10 year old little kid self and go to school and like I'd have these long nails on and fake tan on and like.

• 12:42Lewis Howes?

  Makeup probably.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  And, and that was what was kind of sad too is I was like, well, I look at pictures. I'm like, I don't think I have any pictures of me without makeup on.

• 12:50Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 12:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:51Lewis Howes?

  As a 10 year old.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  It's like a 10 year old because I felt like I needed it when I, when I was off the dance floor, I was like, oh, I was like, I have to wear makeup because you know, like I have to, I think it was all always like having to please people and like kind of fit in and be accepted. And so like I just, I always wanted like the older guys to like me. I wanted the older girls to like me and like, you know, it was, it was kind of like I, I needed to be more mature to fit in.

• 13:19Lewis Howes?

  When did that start? Shifting for you, when did you realize that you didn't need to be that way? That you didn't need to like?

• 13:26Speaker 02

  Like two years ago. Yeah, it took a while to figure that out.

• 13:29Lewis Howes?

  How, what came about, how did that come about?

• 13:31Speaker 02

  Um, I actually went to a Tony Robbins seminar.

• 13:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 13:34Speaker 02

  And...

• 13:35Lewis Howes?

  God, why is he so powerful?

• 13:36Speaker 02

  He's so great, I know. And like, and I always say that to people, I'm like, look, I know it sounds crazy because I'm, I'm like such a believer of Tony Robbins, but like, it's because he knows how to like communicate with people and knows how, like really knows how to connect with people and like what they go through, so, I mean, it could be me, it could be my dog, it could be you teaching the seminar or whatever, but like, he just has a really great way to get it to connect with you, so, anyway, um, so I went to the seminar and I didn't really even want to go, um, my, I was like in my single year, I was like having a lot of fun, but kind of...

• 14:12Lewis Howes?

  Five full days.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's six, yeah, six full days.

• 14:16Lewis Howes?

  From like nine to midnight.

• 14:17Speaker 02

  Fifteen hour days and like, anyway, so my brother actually asked me to go and like all my sisters and my mom went and I was like, okay, well, I know it's really important to you, so I'll go for like two days.

• 14:27Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, I'll check it out.

• 14:28Speaker 02

  And then I'll go home, it's like, first day I was like, oh my gosh. It was like, this is exactly what I need, so, I ended up staying for the whole time and it was like, you didn't even want to go to the bathroom or eat or anything because you wanted to like not miss anything, so...

• 14:44Lewis Howes?

  Well, he doesn't go to the bathroom.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  No, I know.

• 14:46Lewis Howes?

  Or he's there on stage the whole, that's one of the most impressive things, watching him not leave his stage for fifteen hours.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  It is, it is, but, but that's where like, um, yeah, that's where my whole, everything changed.

• 14:59Lewis Howes?

  What opened up for you during that week?

• 15:01Speaker 02

  Clarity and awareness of things that I did and, and, and the kind of person that I was being without even knowing it.

• 15:09Lewis Howes?

  And what was that type of person?

• 15:11Speaker 02

  I was, I was doing everything with the, like the purpose and the meaning behind it that like... All I want is love and acceptance and like I want to feel significant to people and important and I want you know I want to feel all these things like I want to feel successful and I want to do this and I want to do that but at the end of the day Like I was doing it for everybody else to get and so like I needed everybody else to fulfill me and I was I was thinking about it and part of the seminar helped me but like um I was thinking about like why I wanted to be an entertainer when I was a kid and like Why I wanted to be an entertainer now and the meaning was so different.

• 15:53Lewis Howes?

  What was it when you were a kid?

• 15:54Speaker 02

  When I was a kid I was like it's so much fun. It's like this is awesome, this is so fun and like people are laughing and like we're just having a good time and we're being creative. And then like as I got older I realized it was like I wasn't having fun anymore. I was just trying to get the next thing and like what the next part of my career was gonna do for my career and the success of that and like Being the most important person and like all those things where I kneel underneath, I still love to do everything that I did but I was doing it for a different reason.

• 16:27Lewis Howes?

  A lot more pressure it seems like.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh and I never felt successful in anything that I did and I was never good enough and like all these different things and And people would find that hard to believe and I'd be like well yeah but I'm not there yet and they're like but look at what you've done. And I'd be like yeah but it's not, it's not enough.

• 16:44Lewis Howes?

  So how would you feel when you would you know you won Dancing with the Stars numerous times or you Come out with a new record, how would you feel when you release something or you won something or you checked it off the list or the movie came out, how would you feel?

• 16:55Speaker 02

  What's next? Yeah.

• 16:57Lewis Howes?

  So it was never like appreciating the moment like Being grateful for this and excited, it was like this isn't enough.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, well I mean the you know when I won Dancing with the Stars, trust me I was on a high. Yes.

• 17:09Lewis Howes?

  Two days later, you're like, okay.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  A day later, I was like, okay, what's next? And like, I have to have my music career and I have to have my, my acting career and I have to have this and that and that. And, and when I got through all that and I realized what I was doing it all for. And then I kinda came back to my 10 year old self, which was like, let's go have fun and enjoy it and like, have a good time. I ended up feeling like the most successful person. And like, I was like, wow, look, look at everything that I've done and like, I'm so proud of myself. And like, and I think that's really hard for people to say, cause you know, like, it's hard to say that you're proud of yourself. And one, because you're like afraid of what people are gonna think. Are they gonna think that I'm cocky? And it's like, screw everybody else, but they think of me, I'm like, am I proud of myself?

• 17:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm proud of myself. So, yeah. And, and everything is just better now, like, and, and I find that I'm, I'm getting more things that are just coming in. And it's that kind of energy where you're just, you're just being and you're just living and you're just, you're just enjoying things. And, and then you find that you're, you're attracting more things that come your way and, and more success or whatever, however you define it. But yeah, life is just great right now.

• 18:24Lewis Howes?

  Amazing, I'm excited for you.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:26Lewis Howes?

  But it comes across that way too. It doesn't seem like you're stressed or you have any weight on your shoulders. You're just like, let's have fun.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, and I would notice that a lot. I'd be like, and I'd always take deep breaths, like, I'm overwhelmed and like, I need, I need to do this. And like, why am I not that person that's that, you know, like, I'm, I would compare myself to people all the time. Like, why am I not there and they're there? Like, I'm doing what I can and I'm trying so hard. And I'm like, that's the point, I'm trying so hard.

• 18:52Lewis Howes?

  Just be.

• 18:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, just be and like, being authentic and real. And like, I know it's easy to say that, but when you can find it and you feel that feeling, you don't ever want that feeling to go away.

• 19:02Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  Like, that's almost like the addiction now for me is like, it's not the like, it's not that I've lost my drive, but like, It's the, like, I used to hate, sorry, I'm all tangenty right now.

• 19:15Lewis Howes?

  You're good, do it, go on it.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  But it's like, I used to hate feeling satisfied. I used to like, I, I used to say that if I ever felt like I was, you know, content, that was the worst thing in the world. And so then, I would, I, like, last year, I started feeling content and I was like, oh, does that mean my drive's gone?

• 19:36Lewis Howes?

  Your hustle's gone, your drive.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, my hustle and like, you know, cause I used a lot of like, the negativity that has happened in my life to prove myself, to show what I've gone through. And I got rid of that, so I was like, is my drive gone? Like, do I not have the same?

• 19:48Lewis Howes?

  I sort of relax on the weekends.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. And what I realized was that, like, it didn't go away. It actually just made me more calm and peaceful, so that I was more able to go and be really passionate about the things that I loved when I needed to do that. And then I could turn off.

• 20:04Lewis Howes?

  Do you feel like you're more in the flow every day now, or with, you know, your work or your?

• 20:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, I mean, I still have my moments where I'm like, but, um, but I mean, you know, I, I do, I remind myself how grateful I am that, you know, I, I get to do what I do.

• 20:24Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, that's awesome.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  So, sorry, that was major tangent thing.

• 20:28Lewis Howes?

  That's perfect. That's what everyone needs to hear, though. And what would you actually say to someone, whether they're a busy entrepreneur, or they got a family and they feel like they want to make more money and they just feel like they have so much going on and they're never in the zone, they're constantly stressed? What would you, what advice would you give to them?

• 20:41Speaker 02

  I would say, find some rituals that you do to, to calm you down and put you in what Tony likes to say is a peak state, you know, like.

• 20:50Lewis Howes?

  What are your rituals?

• 20:51Speaker 02

  My rituals are, in the morning, like, I, I breathe and I, and I, and I think about the things that I'm grateful for, and I think about what I want to do that day, and I think about how, how I can, not what I'm gonna do, but how, how I'm gonna be to, how I'm gonna be in, in that day.

• 21:10Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  And...

• 21:11Lewis Howes?

  And what are the things that come up often for you? What are those ways of being?

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Kindness, for sure. I mean, kind, being kind, I, I think there's a lot of anti-bullying, and that's, that's an anti thing, and I'm like, well, the only, like, cure for that is by doing something. So, instead of being anti-bullying.

• 21:28Lewis Howes?

  Before kindness.

• 21:29Speaker 02

  Before kindness. So, you know, for me, it's always about what can I do? To inspire and to love and to just, yeah. So, I don't know, that's... I want to now be remembered for who I am as a person rather than what I've accomplished. And then what I've accomplished is great because then it will be a platform to be that person, you know, and like help.

• 21:53Lewis Howes?

  That's cool. What other rituals throughout the day or maybe at night? Do you do anything before bed?

• 21:57Speaker 02

  Music is really important to me because it gets me in a great mood. And so when I'm singing, yeah, when I'm singing or I'm like moving around and I feel great. Like, just, life is wonderful. I make sure I kiss my dogs every day and like we play.

• 22:12Lewis Howes?

  The girls.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  The girls, Lexi and Marley. And I think for me too, I try to listen. I think a lot of the times I, in the past for sure, and it still catches up with me. But I just, I kind of just go on my day.

• 22:30Lewis Howes?

  Listen to what? Listen to yourself or listen to others?

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Listen to people, like a conversation. Like, I think that sometimes I just am waiting for like the end of the conversation.

• 22:42Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:43Lewis Howes?

  You mean now or you used to be like that?

• 22:44Speaker 02

  I used to be like that and sometimes that creeps in.

• 22:46Lewis Howes?

  Why do you wait to the end?

• 22:48Speaker 02

  Because I'm always, again, trying to, what's next?

• 22:51Lewis Howes?

  What's next?

• 22:51Speaker 02

  What's next?

• 22:52Lewis Howes?

  So you're never fully present?

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, and so I now try to like, listen and like, and understand. Try to understand people. So, I don't know. So my rituals are kind of like, again, the morning I breathe. I think about the things that I'm grateful for. I listen to music and get in a good place. And then, and then before I go to bed, I don't know, I do the same kind of thing. Like, think about what I'm grateful for and, yeah.

• 23:17Lewis Howes?

  How important is learning new skills and constantly improving your mind for you? Are you going to more workshops or reading or listening to podcasts or?

• 23:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's kind of addicting when you feel this good.

• 23:33Lewis Howes?

  It's like a high.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  It is a high. And so it's really fun because I feel like your community of friends... It actually shrinks first and then it grows. And it's really cool because you find that you have the same interest and talking about this kind of stuff is really fun. And then you're like, let's go do a seminar together and like, let's, you know, let's read this book together. You know, and so, yeah, I'm, I'm always trying to constantly fuel that. I think kind of what we were saying about like school, like it didn't compute, like I didn't connect to it. And so I didn't understand it, whereas like life stuff like this, I'm like, this is what they need to be teaching in school.

• 24:13Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  I'm like, and I connect to this. So like, I feel really smart. You know, whereas like in school, like it didn't connect with me, whereas this really connects with me.

• 24:22Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Um, so yeah, so I'm always trying to try, I don't know, find ways to be better, but not even be better to, to again, like prove myself, but to be better because it just feels better to, to grow and always feel like you're, um, yeah, I always feel like you're growing and learning and, yeah.

• 24:43Lewis Howes?

  That's great. I'm a big believer in mastering your body and having great health. How important is it for you to constantly be on top of your health game physically? Obviously, I think I know the answer because of what you do, but.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  I think, actually, I think you're right.

• 24:59Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Because like, I wish that I was more conscious of my health. And I think that, I think maybe I put a lot of pressure on myself because of the health thing, because I feel like that's what I should be. And so maybe I.

• 25:11Lewis Howes?

  Is everyone's always looking at you or judging you or pictures or whatever?

• 25:14Speaker 02

  And so I feel like I have a lot of pressure to show that I'm healthy. And, and I think that's one thing that I'm actually figuring out right now. Because, yeah, because I think.

• 25:27Lewis Howes?

  Tell me more about this.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  Okay, so I dance because I have fun.

• 25:31Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  And it makes my body better.

• 25:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  But I don't do it for that reason, really. I do it for, for the fun of it. And working out, I would always do for vanity. And

• 25:44Lewis Howes?

  To look good.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  To look good, which is a great thing. You wanna look good, right? But what I realized was that I was doing it all for vanity. And so now

• 25:52Lewis Howes?

  Not to be healthy, you mean?

• 25:53Speaker 02

  Not to be healthy.

• 25:54Lewis Howes?

  Improve your

• 25:55Speaker 02

  No, but I would feel great when I would do it. So then I would get confused, like, why am I doing this? And I realized that it was all for vanity. And like, so now I'm trying to figure out, okay, how can I, how can I work out and eat right and do it? But because I, I wanna do it for health and not for vanity. And so, I know.

• 26:14Lewis Howes?

  It's challenging because of the world you're in and like

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I'm still figuring that out. Cause by the way, I'm never gonna not do it for vanity also, but like, you know, I, I wanna do it for the right reason. And I wanna be healthy when I have kids and like, you know, and yeah.

• 26:30Lewis Howes?

  How many kids you wanna have?

• 26:31Speaker 02

  I wanna have four.

• 26:31Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  That was quick to answer, right?

• 26:35Lewis Howes?

  That's correct. You knew that since you're like seven years old. You're like, I'm gonna have four kids, I'm gonna have hair.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  I'm a planner.

• 26:42Lewis Howes?

  Why, why, why four? Why three or four?

• 26:45Speaker 02

  Um, I had a big family and I couldn't imagine my life without my siblings. And they're my best friends and yeah.

• 26:52Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, that's cool.

• 26:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:56Lewis Howes?

  What is it about, what is something about you that most people don't know that that would surprise them if they knew?

• 27:06Speaker 02

  You know, I think that, like, I love doing this interview because I'm being so real and so honest.

• 27:11Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I appreciate you.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course. Well, and, and I like that. Whereas I think a lot of people, and I think in the past, I've always been kind of, I know what to say and, and the limit to say and, and

• 27:24Lewis Howes?

  Have your PR team on you, like, clear the talking points.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Well, that and also just to be positive and always happy and, and, and not show my weaknesses. And I think that for people, I want them to know that like, I have insecurities and I have, you know, moments in my life that I'm not proud of or that I am, you know, striving to be better at. And, and so, like, being in this world, it's very, your image is very important to protect because you wanna make sure that, you know, you don't show the weaknesses. But for me, what I've learned is that, like, your weaknesses, your vulnerability is what makes you strong. And to be able to, you know, have somebody relate to you

• 28:12Speaker 02

  is, I think, really important for that person because they see us here in this incredible world

• 28:19Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  that is, it's abnormal. It's not, it's not normal.

• 28:25Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  But yet, we're all still normal and real. And like, we don't usually show those things. So, I don't know, I just would say that I'm just human. And like, I have my, my moments and I have my insecurities and I cry.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  And then, like, I'm really weird. Like, I have, I have like these weird moments and Christie will tell you, but like, I have these weird moments where I get really like, um, like, slap happy, where like, I get in this like weird mood and I just start doing these like, really, like, operatic voices and I'll sing.

• 29:02Lewis Howes?

  Give me one.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  I'd be like, "Miaaah!"

• 29:06Speaker 02

  And like, it's always when I'm really tired and I'll be like, rolling on the floor. And like, I'm just kinda weird.

• 29:14Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  So, yeah, I don't know, like, I'm not.

• 29:17Lewis Howes?

  I like weird. Weird's good.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, weird's great.

• 29:19Lewis Howes?

  It's great.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 29:21Lewis Howes?

  How often do you feel like you allow yourself to be vulnerable? Whether it be in public or in private or?

• 29:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm, I feel like I'm getting better at it for sure. Um, I think that, uh...

• 29:33Speaker 02

  I never used to be vulnerable. I always used to be a tough cookie and, you know, look how strong I am.

• 29:41Lewis Howes?

  Never let them see you sweat.

• 29:42Speaker 02

  Never. Like, oh, that's a piece of cake, you know? Because I wanted to prove, again, that I was really strong and that I could do this and I could keep up and that I was, I was meant to be here with everybody else. Whereas now, I think that, like, I don't care.

• 30:00Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 30:01Speaker 02

  So like, I'm like, I'm not searching for people's approval anymore. I mean, of course, we all are here and there, but like, that's not my main drive. And so, I think now, I'm just kinda like, eh, I don't care. I mean, if they like me, they like me. If they don't, they don't. And so, yeah, I don't know.

• 30:18Lewis Howes?

  That's cool. So tell me how you divide your time between all these interests you have. Again, you're like a superstar at everything, so how do you balance it all? Or is there no balance?

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a really good question. I'm, I'm working on the balance part because I, I, I feel like I have a lot of great ideas and I'm passionate about this and, oh my gosh, this would be a great TV show idea. Or I, I need to sing or I need to go on tour. And so, I would, I would have so many things on my plate that I would never do them all really well. I would, like, be outstanding at all of them. I would kinda just be okay.

• 30:55Lewis Howes?

  Enough to make it work.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  Enough to make it work. And, and so...

• 30:58Lewis Howes?

  Kind of fake your way to be a joker.

• 31:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. And so, I kind of, I, in the last couple of years, I'm like, okay, how do I trim the fat, basically? Like, I need to, I need to prioritize in what makes me happy. What makes me, what makes me like, like, get super excited? And if there's anything that doesn't make me feel that, I need to get it away.

• 31:19Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  And so, um, there's, there was a lot of projects that I had that it would just overwhelm me, but I was like, but it's such a good idea. I need to do this. And then I was like, but I'm not even that passionate about it. You know, but I, but I'm like, but it could make a lot of money and it could be a success and it could be this and it could be that. And then I'm like, but I'm... Really don't even care about it. Like I do because I think it could be something, but it's not that I'm like completely all in on it.

• 31:45Lewis Howes?

  So what advice would you give someone who does have all these projects going on or has a new idea? So many entrepreneurs listen, they always have another idea and they never fall through with it.

• 31:54Speaker 02

  Well, and that's, I think that was what was happening with me too. So it is, it's, my advice would be to trim the fat. Like literally get all of the things that you think you have that are important. And literally just kind of like go like this and only put the things that you are super passionate about. Like it's almost like clearing the table and then grabbing the things that you're like, okay, this, this, this. That is my priority. And then once this is kind of feeling like it's going, then I can trickle in something else.

• 32:22Lewis Howes?

  Some momentum or you've got a system in place or a team that's running it.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, but if there's too much, I always feel like nothing's gonna get done or it's gonna be half assed. Or it's gonna, you know, it's not gonna be my full potential of what I know it could have been.

• 32:34Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  You know?

• 32:35Lewis Howes?

  So what is it you want right now? What do you, you've done so much, but like what's, what do you want in your life?

• 32:40Speaker 02

  What I want in my life now is structure, structure and stability. I think that for a long time, and just who I am, I'm all over the place. And I love that about myself, that I am all like, you know, like, let's just go do this and spontaneity. And but now I'm kind of wanting to be more calm and settled and a little bit more stability.

• 33:01Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  So for me, I think the thing that I would really, I feel like I'm an entrepreneur.

• 33:08Lewis Howes?

  You are, of course you are.

• 33:10Speaker 02

  And I'm thinking about business ideas that aren't necessarily me being on camera. But that can run itself almost.

• 33:19Lewis Howes?

  Producing them or?

• 33:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, producing or, you know, even I have some ideas for my, my brand that my brother and I are, you know, creating, Move.

• 33:28Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  And we have some, again, some outside ideas that we want to establish and put into play. And, and that won't be me necessarily being there.

• 33:38Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 33:38Speaker 02

  Constantly.

• 33:39Lewis Howes?

  Having to show up constantly.

• 33:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, show up and be on camera. So like having a way to, to do that, I think I'm starting to think about now and, and think about like when I, because I want to start having kids in like five years, I'm not ready at all, but like in like five years. So like, how can I plan and set it up so that? Like I can take time off and yet still feel like I'm involved in my business and my work, but I can be here.

• 34:04Lewis Howes?

  You're up for it, yeah.

• 34:05Speaker 02

  So I think that's where my brain is going right now.

• 34:08Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 34:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:09Lewis Howes?

  What's the dream?

• 34:10Speaker 02

  The dream is to have fun.

• 34:16Lewis Howes?

  Throw y'all guard there.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, but it's true. The dream is I wanna, I wanna have a family.

• 34:20Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  And I wanna, I wanna be married. I wanna have a family. I wanna be able to, um, I wanna still be able to perform in any manner. Um, and it can be on a large scale like what I'm doing now, or it could be something smaller. Uh, it kinda just depends where my life is going, but I, I wanna continue to make money because I wanna be able to support my family.

• 34:45Lewis Howes?

  Of course.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  And, um, and I think that that's, it's just fun to find out how, like ways, like, oh, I can make money from this.

• 34:52Lewis Howes?

  Being out here is so much fun.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's great.

• 34:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, it's amazing.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  So I'm always trying to think of fun, cool ideas. Um, but also I think my purpose has changed a little bit as well, as far as instead of receiving and getting a lot of stuff, like how can I give to the world?

• 35:10Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 35:10Speaker 02

  And so...

• 35:11Lewis Howes?

  That's interesting.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it makes, I don't know, it makes life, again, makes life so much better because, okay, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you in on my, my, my mission statement.

• 35:23Lewis Howes?

  Let me hear it.

• 35:23Speaker 02

  So my mission statement is, let me get into my peak state. It is.

• 35:27Lewis Howes?

  What's your move? Show me your move.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  My move? It's kinda funny. My brother makes fun of me all the time. It's, it goes, "Yes." So...

• 35:34Lewis Howes?

  Like jazz hands?

• 35:35Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 35:38Lewis Howes?

  I like it. Jazz hands.

• 35:40Speaker 02

  Yes, yeah, that's my move. So, um, so, so the purpose of my life is to be an infectious light of love and joy, to celebrate the little things and to inspire others to embrace their true essence.

• 35:54Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  So, and that last part...

• 35:57Lewis Howes?

  Inspire others to be their true essence.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  To embrace their true essence.

• 36:00Lewis Howes?

  To embrace your true essence.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  And like to find that, because I think that I had to find that in the last couple of years. And and we get so caught up in what we need to do and what we need to get. And all those things that like we forget like the 10 year old self and and like why we want to do it. And because it's fun, right? And so to inspire somebody else to like break down those like layers of what they've just done to survive. It's like, let's break those down, let's break those down, you know? And I want to be that that kind of person to help people or or to inspire people to like find that part.

• 36:37Lewis Howes?

  Well, I'm glad you shared your mission statement. I want to share with you mine and I'm going to ask you a question about it. My mission is to teach 100 million people to show them how to make a full time living doing what they love.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 36:48Lewis Howes?

  Because I believe if everyone is making a full time living, it doesn't have to be millions, but enough to live and have a good life.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:54Lewis Howes?

  Doing the things that you're most passionate about, that's going to cause you're going to heal yourself so much from so much pain.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:01Lewis Howes?

  And disease is going to be gone, relationships are going to be better. And people are doing what they love.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:06Lewis Howes?

  And they feel like what they do is matters.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 37:08Lewis Howes?

  Make money for what matters. So.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 37:11Lewis Howes?

  How important is it to be clear on a mission and to have a mission statement like you just said and like I have?

• 37:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's really important because I never had one before and I always thought like, oh, I want this, I want that, I want that. But I never.

• 37:26Lewis Howes?

  You know why?

• 37:27Speaker 02

  I didn't know why. And then I figured out why and then I and I said, yes. And I figured out why and I and I I have direction now. And I have clarity and like what's important is important, what's not important is not important.

• 37:42Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 37:42Speaker 02

  And I used to, there was no filter before, everything just kind of blended and mixed and I didn't and I I felt kind of lost. But I was like, I'm not lost, I'm good, I know what I'm doing. But I was lost completely because I'm like, well, yeah, I think I'm supposed to be doing this, I think I. But having that direction, you you have a, you do have a purpose.

• 38:03Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  And then every day. It's not a, it's not a battle or a, or a, um, or pressure to live up to it. It just kinda somehow happens because when you believe it and you think it and you say it, like you just end up doing it.

• 38:18Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  And it's, yeah.

• 38:20Lewis Howes?

  That's cool. And I think, I mean, when I was like a teenager, I didn't have a mission statement of like, what I'm gonna do in my life. I think when you're younger, it's just trying to like figure out how to get to the next grade.

• 38:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:29Lewis Howes?

  Get to college or whatever it is. For me it was like, will a girl like me? Can I get a girlfriend? That was like my mission, right?

• 38:35Speaker 02

  Most kids are.

• 38:37Lewis Howes?

  I think, I think it depends on where you're at in your life and your mission can evolve and change.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  Definitely.

• 38:41Lewis Howes?

  As the seasons change, new relationships, new, new things happen, but I think it's invaluable to have something, no matter where you're at.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  I agree. And even if it's something that you don't necessarily believe fully, but you want, I think that's always really good to even have that because that, again, it, it, it gives you a reason and a purpose and a meaning behind it. Whereas like, like I, like there were things that I would tell myself that I, I wasn't fully living, but I wanted to be. And so I would tell those things, tell myself those things. And then I ended up becoming that.

• 39:16Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  You know, and like I used to say that like, I remember going in for my Footloose audition and...

• 39:23Lewis Howes?

  Did he just give it to you?

• 39:24Speaker 02

  No, I went in and auditioned multiple amount of times. And when I went in, I was so insecure and I was so worried that I wasn't gonna get this. That I could have done that and I would have shown that. Or I went into the bathroom and I was like, I'm fucking awesome. I was like, I am so good. I'm so gonna get this. I'm awesome. Yeah. Like I deserve this. I'm gonna do this. I did not believe that at all. But I just, I told myself in the mirror, I tricked myself into thinking it and I got it. And like, I've done that a lot in my life.

• 39:59Lewis Howes?

  Cause your energy doesn't lie.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:01Lewis Howes?

  If you show up nervous because you're thinking that constantly, it's gonna come across very easily.

• 40:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, completely.

• 40:07Lewis Howes?

  I'm the fucking shit.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  I am. Yeah. And it's like, and I've done that in like a lot of my auditions. Or when I'm feeling like, ugh. Like, then I'm like, wait, wait, wait. And, and this is actually pre-Tony. So like, I felt like I kinda did it anyway.

• 40:21Lewis Howes?

  You covered yourself up, yeah.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  But I would pump myself up and I, I would say things that even though I didn't believe it, like I would just say it. And then I, and then I, after I would be finished, I'd be like, thank goodness they told myself that, you know?

• 40:33Lewis Howes?

  Now, do you practice visualization a lot? Do you like visualize what you want and think about it constantly or put it on a wall, like images or any type of visualization?

• 40:44Speaker 02

  When I was a kid, I definitely did. And I had like, by the time I'm 16, I'm gonna do this. By the time I'm 19, I'm gonna do this and this and this. And, and literally it was like, by the time I'm 19, I wanna be a singer. And that's when I released my first record. When I was 21, I wanted to star in my own movie and that was Footloose. And, you know, and like there were certain things along the way that happened and, and they would come to fruition. Like, it was crazy. And then I started, and then I stopped doing that because I achieved all those things and I didn't have any of those. And I realized, I made those up when I was a kid.

• 41:17Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  And I was like, I need to be a kid again and make up some new ones.

• 41:21Lewis Howes?

  Some big dreams.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  Some big dreams.

• 41:22Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  You know, and like I forgot that I did that, but I, they kept coming true. And so, I don't have, I, well, I do now, but I didn't have any past 21. And so, I was like, oh, I need to get some dreams. You know, and like, and like really visualize like when and how and where and like the picture of what I want, you know?

• 41:46Lewis Howes?

  What's the process of this? Do you, do you just map it up in your mind? Do you draw it out? Do you write it down? How do you?

• 41:52Speaker 02

  Um, I map it out in my mind because I am very visual. So like I just see it. Um, but then, I mean, this

• 41:59Lewis Howes?

  Is there something to tell yourself or is there like?

• 42:02Speaker 02

  It's silly, but like every time an eyelash falls and I make a wish or like every time it's 11/11 or like, I do, I like, I think about those things and I like wish for it and I think about it. And I know it sounds silly and, um, like, it's not magic, you know, it's just, but it is. It's like, it's a reminder, like those little funny wish things. But like, I'll always think about those things.

• 42:27Lewis Howes?

  I think it's brilliant because if you're not reminded to think about them, it's never gonna happen.

• 42:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:31Lewis Howes?

  It's not just gonna fall in your lap. You're not gonna get the role of the next movie you want because you just

• 42:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:35Lewis Howes?

  showed up and it just fell in your lap.

• 42:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:37Lewis Howes?

  You've gotta set the intention every day.

• 42:39Speaker 02

  Completely.

• 42:40Lewis Howes?

  Multiple times probably.

• 42:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:41Lewis Howes?

  For years.

• 42:42Speaker 02

  Well, and it's so funny now that you say that, because Even like my family has this weird thing where we always see either 11 11 or 2 11 or something 11.

• 42:52Lewis Howes?

  Same time or?

• 42:53Speaker 02

  And we always text be like 2 11 and like 10 will come in.

• 42:57Lewis Howes?

  You text like the photo of it?

• 42:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally. And it's like, the more you think about it, the more you're gonna see it, right? And it's like before, I never would have even noticed that. But we see it all the time now. We'll go and like, we'll see a license plate that has it or like, we'll go to the grocery store and our change will be something 11. And it's like, because you're focused on that, like that's what you see and that's what you get. And so I feel like that's the same thing in, in life. Like whether it's a dream that you have or if it's a, an idea that you have, the more you think about it, the more you focus on that, the more it's gonna keep coming up.

• 43:33Lewis Howes?

  And then the other side of things, the more you focus on stress.

• 43:35Speaker 02

  And the negative, yeah.

• 43:36Lewis Howes?

  Drama and whatever else, anger and frustration and resentment, the more you're gonna be frustrated and resentful.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  Completely, absolutely.

• 43:44Lewis Howes?

  Tell me about your brother. How much of a support has he been along this entire process from London to Dancing with the Stars to movies and singing? How big of a support has he been?

• 43:54Speaker 02

  Oh, huge support. And I think, you know, I, I think in even just the last few years, he's been incredible because, you know, when you're kids, we're brother and sister, so like.

• 44:05Lewis Howes?

  You're like annoying.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. And like, we never really were that like annoying brother and sister with each other, but we were just kinda like, well, yeah, like we're brother and sister. We look out for each other, you know? Like it was always that kind of good thing. But I think in the last few years as we've, as we've grown up and we've had life experiences happen, like relationships and breakups and, you know, we're now really working together. I mean, trust me, I've learned a lot about my brother.

• 44:34Lewis Howes?

  You're like a tour bus going the other way, yeah.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  I mean, we are emerged.

• 44:38Lewis Howes?

  You're staying with him right now or?

• 44:39Speaker 02

  It's a lot. But, um, you know, you, I used to hold my brother on such a pedestal and I think he did the same thing for me.

• 44:47Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 44:48Speaker 02

  And we're like, okay, we are human. And we've seen a lot of each other's faults now and like our weaknesses and stuff like that. And, and you, I think it's hard because we even put our parents on a pedestal, it's all this stuff. And then, and then you see something and that disappoints you and you're like, well, wait, you're supposed to be this person. And then, and then you're like, well, no, they're human. Anyway, so my brother and I have been really, really a huge support for each other in the last few years because there have been life experiences. We have been emerged in each other's lives and, you know, there's things that if we didn't want to work to have our relationship,

• 45:30Speaker 02

  we could have split us apart or like, you know, and so I think that we, he was the one that introduced me to going to that seminar that changed my life, you know, and like, and every day we send each other these really cool little messages with all my sisters on the, on the chain and my brother will always send these really cool inspirational things and like, just keeping us, I don't know, feeling good. So he's, he's, he's our brother. He's like our, he's the only boy in the family. So like, he's like our, we love him. He's like our little brother, even though he's my big brother, but he's like my little brother.

• 46:04Lewis Howes?

  That's very cool. What was the biggest lesson you learned while being a dancer on Dance with the Stars? What's the biggest thing that opened up for you?

• 46:13Speaker 02

  Patience, um, for sure because you're, you, you have to be sort of selfless when you're on that show because it's not about you and

• 46:22Lewis Howes?

  It's about the celebrity.

• 46:23Speaker 02

  It's about the celebrity, yeah. It's about the celebrity.

• 46:25Lewis Howes?

  Teaching constantly, right?

• 46:27Speaker 02

  Teaching them, watching them grow, but it's very rewarding and I think I didn't really understand that until recently that like, the reason why it was really fun to be selfless is the reward that you would get to watch somebody grow in front of your eyes and like, you know, physically, you know, dancing wise, but then like emotionally too and seeing them come out of their, their shell and like feeling confident and sexy like that's, I mean, I was, that was obviously Apollo coming out and feeling sexy. But, um, but that like, that fulfillment on the other side, like, it's okay that it's not about me because it's, you know.

• 47:07Lewis Howes?

  Being a service, giving.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, giving and like being able to

• 47:13Speaker 02

  Have a task and you have to fulfill it and you have to you have to achieve that. Otherwise, you're not going to be prepared and you're gonna look silly. So I loved that. It taught me discipline for sure. I mean, I was taught that in England as well.

• 47:28Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  But like it taught me discipline. It taught me how to commit to something and that I can't flake. Like I have to be there. I have to be reliable.

• 47:38Lewis Howes?

  And be prepared.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  And be prepared. Yeah, so I loved it.

• 47:42Lewis Howes?

  Right, that's cool. And now you're judging.

• 47:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:44Lewis Howes?

  Now, tell me what's the biggest lesson that you've learned being a judge? Being on the other side?

• 47:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, biggest lesson that I've learned being a judge is that...

• 47:57Lewis Howes?

  After you've been judged for so long?

• 47:59Speaker 02

  That you want to give critiques, but with an encouragement behind it. Because I think that there's been times where you just kind of say what you think and then you run out of time and you're not allowed to say what you want to say for the encouraging part. So you have to like for me...

• 48:18Lewis Howes?

  You're like, "I'm sorry."

• 48:19Speaker 02

  I know. And so it's really making sure that whenever I say what I have to say, there's always something that is a good part to it. That I can always see something good in whatever that is. But I also am not just gonna say, "Oh, that was great." Because like that's not helping them. That's just keeping them where they're at. So I want to be able to give some, you know, criticism that helps them get better for the next week. So I don't know. It's just, it is, it's about being authentic, but with a thought of encouragement. You know, like, so, yeah.

• 48:56Lewis Howes?

  With, you know, the exposure to ballroom dance with Dance from the Stars and more shows and all these dance shows coming out. And I feel like more and more parents putting their kids in dance, especially in the US, I don't know about around the world.

• 49:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:08Lewis Howes?

  What advice would you give to either parents or kids at a young age about ballroom dance specifically, going into it, knowing what you've been through?

• 49:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think that...

• 49:21Speaker 02

  Wow, it's a really, it's a really difficult question because I went through a lot of stuff that was pretty difficult and like, you know, I've spoken out about it, but you know, there were, there were times where I felt completely alone and like, like, nobody understands me and like the overly sexualized type thing, but I didn't understand that as a kid until now I'm an adult and I can look back and understand what it was, but, but those things made me a really great dancer.

• 49:53Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  So.

• 49:54Lewis Howes?

  Made you driven and.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Extremely driven, made me really passionate, made me, made me a fighter, made me strong and all of those things, so it's hard because I'm like, I, I, I would never take it back.

• 50:08Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 50:09Speaker 02

  Because this is why I'm here, but it's a very, I would never want anybody else to go through some of this stuff, you know, so, um, so for, for my advice for young kids, I think it's an incredible, I think it's an incredible sport where you, you learn, you learn how to interact with a girl or a guy, I think, which is, um, which is maybe a good thing and a bad thing.

• 50:36Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 50:36Speaker 02

  But I think, you know, like the, the gentlemanly, like, feeling of taking care of a woman, I think is really, um.

• 50:46Lewis Howes?

  Escorting.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's very prominent in that world and, you know, being a female dancer definitely brings out the sensual sides, but, but it's being able to balance that and being able to like, that's what I do, but that's not who I am kind of thing, so I don't know, I mean, hey, I'm a huge fan of dancers and there's all sorts of dancers.

• 51:07Lewis Howes?

  Dancers are amazing.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  They, they're really incredible and there, it's so much about the emotion that like.

• 51:13Speaker 02

  Oh man, like when I dance, there's not, I mean, really, there's nothing greater than what I feel. And I'm so emerged and I'm present. It's the one time that I really truly feel present.

• 51:22Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 51:23Speaker 02

  So I don't know, I mean, I'm not really answering this question at all.

• 51:28Speaker 02

  I would just say like, you know, give it, give it your all and never forget why you wanted to do it. Because when you lose sight of that, then like, what's the point? You know, why, why are you doing it? So just to keep doing it for, yeah, for the fun and the right reasons. So, yeah.

• 51:48Lewis Howes?

  That's good. Good answer.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 51:50Lewis Howes?

  Do you feel like without struggle? That you would be able to have success as well? Or do you feel like because of the struggles you've been through? The challenges, going to London, coming back, just like all the different confusing times because of that, you are successful? Or, and if you didn't have that, would you be where you are now?

• 52:10Speaker 02

  For me personally, I don't know the other. So where I'm at, I, I do think that that made me who I am. And the struggle was necessary and the, the drive, whether it was because I felt I needed to prove myself or, or to show how strong I was, what I've done, what I've accomplished because of what I've gone through. Like that, that was something that I needed, but now I don't need that anymore. And so it's a different kind of drive and passion. And I know others, my boyfriend, he didn't have struggles and he is so passionate about what he does. So I think in the past, I would have been like, yeah, you know, to have struggle really helps you get somewhere.

• 52:51Speaker 02

  But I've seen the opposite, like somebody who is so supported, so like, like his family was there through and throughout. Like, and he just was passionate and he loved it.

• 53:01Lewis Howes?

  That's great.

• 53:02Speaker 02

  And like, he wouldn't have it any other way. Like, and so you can have it both ways.

• 53:07Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 53:07Speaker 02

  I think you just have to have that passion.

• 53:10Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 53:10Speaker 02

  And I think that, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I've seen it both ways now, so I don't know.

• 53:17Lewis Howes?

  Couple of questions left for you. The first one, a friend of mine asked me, he said you should, I should ask this question in my interviews from now on. So my question is, and you were kind of seeding it with your, how you want to be of service and give to the world as opposed to get. So if you were given, if I gave you a billion dollars right now, what would you do to serve the world? How would you accelerate your service?

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  Off the top of my head, I can't think of one place or one community or something that I would do to give it to or something like that. But I would, I would definitely,

• 53:51Speaker 02

  I would definitely do something, oh man, like I work with Kind Campaign.

• 53:55Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I saw that.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  And I, I love that

• 53:59Speaker 02

  they have it in the school now where it's an outside program type thing, but you know, it is, it's something that people want to be a part of. So I would, I would want to do something where

• 54:11Speaker 02

  whether it's something in schools with kids about moving and, and

• 54:17Speaker 02

  you know, because I say the more, the way that you move directly affects the way that you feel. So like doing some sort of activity that is, is movement and positivity and like lifting that person up. So it would be something like that, whether it's in schools or like opening facility like in, like all around the states that had that, where like people could come in and, and learn how to like, not rebuild their lives, but like strip and, and, and be their true essence. So like, so, but like having tools and people that also is in a fun environment. So like, I don't know if that made any sense, but

• 55:02Speaker 02

  but yeah, like if I could maybe build some sort of like facility, like a, like a, not a dance studio, but like a wellness studio where, a center where like you learn, you learn life lessons and you learn like kindness and you learn this and you learn that and like, because it's not about, it's not about again, like taking stuff away, but it's how do you cure that? So like by being that kind of person. So I don't know, like you, you stop the, you stop the badness in the world by being good. So I would teach people that. I don't know.

• 55:35Lewis Howes?

  I like that.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  Get a lot of people to come and teach that.

• 55:38Lewis Howes?

  I like it. Bring Tony in to teach it.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 55:41Lewis Howes?

  I like that.

• 55:45Lewis Howes?

  One more question.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:46Lewis Howes?

  And before I ask you the last question, I wanna, I wanna see, is there anything you wanna talk about? That you're up to, that you're really excited about, that you wanna promote out there?

• 55:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:55Lewis Howes?

  Where can we find you online? How can we connect with you? How can we be a part of your, your dream?

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Absolutely. Well, um, the way that you can connect with me is I'm launching actually a blog, website type, you know? I'm launching a blog.

• 56:10Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 56:10Speaker 02

  Um, I'm like, I try to, anyway. And it's, um, it's obviously lifestyle, all the things that I'm really passionate about. But it's also like a space, again, for like challenges that I, I wanna put out in the world to, to be kind or be, you know, be loving or being grateful. And, and so it's a space where, um, I really wanna have a community of those types of people.

• 56:34Lewis Howes?

  Are you writing it or is it your content?

• 56:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:37Lewis Howes?

  And what's it called?

• 56:37Speaker 02

  It's just, it's just my name, julianhuff.com.

• 56:40Lewis Howes?

  Okay, cool.

• 56:41Speaker 02

  So, yeah.

• 56:41Lewis Howes?

  When is that coming out?

• 56:42Speaker 02

  It's like end of March, so.

• 56:45Lewis Howes?

  Perfect.

• 56:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:46Lewis Howes?

  So go there, subscribe.

• 56:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, and to be connected and feeling like, um, we're, I don't know, we're in this community together, so.

• 56:55Lewis Howes?

  I like it.

• 56:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then, um, I'm going back on Dancing with the Stars.

• 56:59Lewis Howes?

  Amazing.

• 57:00Speaker 02

  Um, got a movie I just finished that will come out next year.

• 57:03Lewis Howes?

  Amazing.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  So, yeah, just loving life.

• 57:06Lewis Howes?

  Subscribe to you on your website.

• 57:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:08Lewis Howes?

  What are you, are you Instagram more, Twitter, Facebook?

• 57:10Speaker 02

  I have Instagram that connects to Twitter.

• 57:13Lewis Howes?

  Okay, cool.

• 57:13Speaker 02

  And Facebook, actually, but I have, it's Instagram that I do.

• 57:16Lewis Howes?

  Instagram, alright, I'm a big Instagram fan too.

• 57:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:18Lewis Howes?

  Cool, so make sure to go there. Um, before I ask you the final question, I just wanna again acknowledge you, Julianne, for your joy and your love.

• 57:26Speaker 02

  Ah, thanks.

• 57:27Lewis Howes?

  I know you have love written right there.

• 57:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:29Lewis Howes?

  But it's like, it just comes across so powerfully and so gracefully. That's the word that's coming up for me, is like graceful in this ease. So I acknowledge you for being the light and being so joyful in the world and for bringing that energy to this interview. It's been, it's been so much fun, so thank you.

• 57:46Speaker 02

  Thank you, appreciate it.

• 57:47Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, final question is, what's your definition of greatness?

• 57:51Speaker 02

  My definition of greatness, wow, that is a, that is a tough question, but I think that, um...

• 57:59Speaker 02

  It's kind of what I've been saying is just being authentic and achieving what you feel is great. Not what I think the world defines as great.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  I think that greatness is very personal. Yeah, so I don't know, achieving greatness. I'm just thinking about my stepsister who's having a baby right now. Like, she's literally in the hospital. Like, that is achieving greatness right there. Or like, I don't know, like, anything. This interview's greatness. It's the way that you look at it.

• 58:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah. Awesome. Well, Julianne, thank you so much for coming on.

• 58:39Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 58:39Lewis Howes?

  I appreciate it.

• 58:40Speaker 02

  Appreciate it.

• 58:40Lewis Howes?

  Thank you.

• 58:44Lewis Howes?

  There you have it, guys. If you enjoyed this one, make sure to share it with your friends at lewishouse.com/499. And make sure to tag me at Lewis Howes and at Julianne Huff over on your Instagram stories, your Instagram page, on Twitter, on Facebook. Let us know what you thought of this. I'm sure she would love to hear the feedback of what you gained from her inspiration and her story. Again, lewishouse.com/499. And I hope you enjoyed this one. To finish this up, you've got to dance like there's nobody watching. You've got to love like you'll never be hurt. You've got to sing like there's nobody listening and live like it's heaven on earth. Again, great quote by William Perkey. I hope you enjoyed this one. And you know what time it is.

• 59:28Lewis Howes?

  It's time to go out there and do something great.