451 Tony Robbins: The Ultimate Guide to Financial Success and Happiness

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  This is episode number 451 with number one New York Times bestselling author, Tony Robbins.

• 0:09Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 0:35Lewis Howes?

  Over 15 years ago, when I was in high school, I went to my first inspirational event in St. Louis, Missouri. And my dad bought myself and my mom two tickets to go to this event hosted by a man named Tony Robbins. Now, I didn't really know much about who Tony Robbins was, but at the event, there were other big speakers, athletes, coaches that I admired and I really wanted to learn from. Little did I know that this experience would change my life forever. And without this one experience, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today. Now, to give you some context, I was sitting on the floor seats of this big arena, about 20,000 people in the arena.

• 1:18Lewis Howes?

  And imagine kind of the 50 yard line. We were sitting back on the floor, about halfway back in this arena. And Tony Robbins, at one point throughout the day, walks off the stage and down the aisle, down the middle of the section where I was sitting. And I was sitting right next to the aisle. And he walks down to about that 50 yard line where I was sitting with my mom, and he comes up next to me. And I was just thinking to myself, I wonder if he's going to stop next to me and look at me. And he walks up next to me and he stops and he stands there for about 30 to 60 seconds. And I don't remember what he said, the things he was saying, or the suggestions of what we could do in that moment with our lives or our business.

• 2:01Lewis Howes?

  I wasn't even sure what he was saying, but I will never forget the way he made me feel in that moment. He possessed such a presence and energy and certainty about what he was talking about that made me believe more myself. And that may sound a little crazy, it may sound a little weird, but I tell you the truth. Energy doesn't lie and his energy in that moment was so powerful and profound for me as a 16 year old. It opened something up for me. I didn't have the confidence when I was in my teens, I think like most teens. I didn't have that confidence and I said, that's something that I want. I don't know what it is, how he got it, or you know, what to name it, but I want it.

• 2:42Lewis Howes?

  And I want to be doing this someday. I want to be in front of an audience where I could stand in front of an audience with confidence and certainty. And express a certain energy as well to get people to move forward, to be more inspired about their life and their dreams. And actually go after it with reckless abandon for love and passion in their dreams. And I'll never forget that moment. And today we have the man, Tony Robbins, back on the podcast for the third time. And for those that don't know who he is, the last two times we had him on, they were some of the biggest shows we've ever had out of 451 episodes. And so many people came up to me and said after they listened that they've listened to so many Tony Robbins interviews.

• 3:25Lewis Howes?

  But this is the one that they thought was the best because Tony opened up in a way where he normally doesn't. And I said, okay, if I get him back on a third time, we've got to continue to push the boundaries and open him up to express and share things he's never shared. In public, on an interview to his friends and guys, I think we did it again. That's right. I think we did it for a third time. So for those that don't know who he is, he's coached more than 50 million people from a hundred countries. And is the number one life and business strategist in the world. And in his new book, he reveals how to become unshakable, someone who can not only maintain true peace of mind.

• 4:04Lewis Howes?

  In a world of immense uncertainty, economic volatility and unprecedented change. But who can profit from the fear that immobilizes so many. And after writing the number one New York Times bestseller, Money Master of the Game. He comes back with the step-by-step financial freedom playbook. Unshakable, taking you on a journey to transform your financial life and accelerate your path to financial freedom. Now guys, I am pumped for this and we cover so many things and it really gets juicy, you know, halfway, two thirds of the way through, it just like continues to build. So there's some incredible stuff where we talk about

• 4:45Lewis Howes?

  the difference between someone who is financially rich and someone who is financially poor. And what is that difference between the rich person and the poor person? And how can anyone have it? We also talk about how to prepare for a bear market, a market that is dying. How do we prepare for that? Whether, how do we prepare for that? Whether we're rich, poor, or somewhere in the middle? Also, what you need to know about timing when investing? Also, if it's possible for women to become powerful leaders without making men feel emasculated and the antidote to all suffering. We reveal so much. We also, at the end, guys,

• 5:29Lewis Howes?

  I asked a number of people on my audience to share a question that they would want to have asked. And we had over 250 questions submitted. So I ask a few of your questions at the end. This is a powerful interview. Make sure to share it with your friends right now as you're listening. Get everyone you know to listen to this on iTunes or Stitcher or SoundCloud, or watch the YouTube video as well. LewisHowes.com/451 for all the show notes. Guys, get ready for a powerful one with the one and only Tony Robbins.

• 6:07Lewis Howes?

  Welcome everyone back to the School of Greatness Podcast. Very excited about our guest, Tony Robbins. Good to see you again. So good to see you. This is interview number three that we've done together. We have done two before, haven't we? The first two both did over a half a million views on YouTube, you know, hundreds of thousands of downloads on the audio, some of our top episodes out of 450 episodes. That's wonderful. So excited to bring back the third one. And for those that aren't following Tony, make sure you're following this guy. He's one of the most inspirational coaches in business and life in the world. Thank you. And also in finances and how to make money. And the new book is Unshakable, Your Financial Freedom Playbook, Creating Peace of Mind in a World of Volatility.

• 6:50Lewis Howes?

  And it's really a playbook, a step-by-step guide to mastery, right?

• 6:54Tony Robbins?

  Yeah, I go from where you are financially, where you want to be. I really wrote it because, you know, I wrote Money Master the Game, and 700 pages. It's a monster.

• 7:02Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 7:02Tony Robbins?

  But my goal was, you know, I interviewed 50 of the smartest financial people in the world. The Warren Buffets, the Carl Icons, the Ray Dalios, the best in the earth. And I wanted to write a book that could take anybody and take them on the journey, or I could take my billionaire clients on the journey. And it became number one New York bestseller, New York Times bestseller. I was thrilled with it, and I swore I wasn't going to write another book. I hadn't written a book in 20 years. And then what happened was, I was doing, I was doing what I just did this last week. I was up in Whistler. We do, change locations every year. But I do a financial program where I bring usually five self-made billionaires in five days. And then I bring 20 speakers, including them and myself. And we go deep. So this year I had Ray Dalio, who's the largest, most successful hedge fund guy in the history of the world. Produced more money for investors than anybody alive.

• 7:45Tony Robbins?

  I had, you know, President Clinton. We had, you know, we had the top guy who became a billionaire in Bitcoin. It was pretty amazing. But a year and a half ago, almost two years ago, I had Fed Chair Alan Greenspan. And I spent three hours with him, just getting in his psyche, you know, over supposedly lunch. It was supposed to be 30 minutes.

• 8:05Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 8:06Tony Robbins?

  And he's nine years old. He's been, you know, the most powerful man in finance for 19 years, across four presidents. And so, then I got him on stage for two hours. And the last question, we're talking about negative interest rates. I mean, if you think about it, we're living in a world that never existed before. The Wall Street Journal hired a historian to find out, when was the last time we had negative interest rates? And in 5,000 years of banking history, it's never happened, right? Where you give your money and they, you pay them to give them your money. They've always paid you and then loaned your money and made money off of it. It's the craziest thing. There's, there are bonds right now, like Toyota's buying the bond that they're selling for .006. At 001, excuse me. At that rate, it takes 69,000 years to double your money. So I'm having this conversation with him.

• 8:48Tony Robbins?

  And, you know, he's head swirling, and we're talking about things. And at the very end, I finally said, so tell me, what would you do if you were back maybe the head of the Fed today? I mean, this crazy environment, what would you do?

• 8:59Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 9:00Tony Robbins?

  And he paused, and he paused, and he leaned forward and he said, "I resign."

• 9:04Lewis Howes?

  Right, exactly.

• 9:06Tony Robbins?

  That did not exactly encourage things. And I interviewed Howard Marks, who runs Oak Tree Capital. In 2008, when the market was tanking, he was buying a billion dollars a week, every single week, because he saw everything going on sale.

• 9:18Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 9:19Tony Robbins?

  And he said to me, this is like six months ago, nine months ago, he said, "Tony, if you're not confused by what's going on, you don't know what's going on. We are in a place we've never been financially." So, I saw so much fear, and you know, we're in the eighth year of a bull market. It's the second largest bull market in the history of the world. And we all know there's going to be a crash. But while you're wizzy worrying about the crash, a lot of people miss the bull market. It's up 250% since 2008. It's up 14% since Trump was made president in November.

• 9:47Lewis Howes?

  It's crazy, right?

• 9:48Tony Robbins?

  And a lot of people on the sideline going, "It's so expensive, you know, it's going to come down." So I thought what I'd do is, write a short book, not 600, 700 pages.

• 9:55Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 9:55Tony Robbins?

  Make it so they can read it in a weekend, or you know, a long day or evening. And then, I wanted to write a book that also was really a playbook, showed you exactly what to do. So if you're a, you know, a baby boomer and you never got started, you can still make it. Or if you're, you know, somebody who's, let's say, a millennial, and you feel like you've been through college and you've got so much debt and you never get out of it, this is the plan, how to get out of it. But I really wanted to get rid of the fear. I wanted to show people that there's nothing to fear, and do it not with enthusiasm, but with facts. And in this book, when you read this, it'll blow your mind. And I'm also giving 100% of the profits, not a penny comes to me, again, to feed people, because we fed 100 million people two years ago, 100 million last year. This book will help feed 50 million, so every book feeds 50 people.

• 10:39Tony Robbins?

  And then I'm putting matching funds up to feed another 100 million people. We're going to feed a billion people in the next seven years. Pretty awesome.

• 10:45Lewis Howes?

  You're the man. The thing I love about this is, I am a very slow reader. It takes me forever.

• 10:50Tony Robbins?

  Really?

• 10:51Lewis Howes?

  And it's hard for me to comprehend, after like five pages, I feel like I forgot everything.

• 10:55Tony Robbins?

  Yeah.

• 10:56Lewis Howes?

  I read this in four hours.

• 10:57Tony Robbins?

  Wow.

• 10:58Lewis Howes?

  And for me, you know, I've had my own level of financial success. And I feel like I understand certain, certain parts of it, but there's always more for me to learn.

• 11:07Tony Robbins?

  Yeah.

• 11:07Lewis Howes?

  And I learned so much, because you make it so simple. You break the most complicated, confusing, and scary things down into simple ideas, and analogies that anyone can understand, so. Make sure you guys get this again, 100% go to Feeding America, is that the foundation right?

• 11:21Tony Robbins?

  Yeah, they'll feed them.

• 11:22Lewis Howes?

  It's a game changer. I highly recommend it. And I've got some questions for you. We had some of our listeners ask questions. I'm gonna ask some of those.

• 11:30Tony Robbins?

  Cool.

• 11:30Lewis Howes?

  But I wanted to ask first, what the difference is between someone who is financially rich and who's someone who's financially poor. What's the difference?

• 11:38Tony Robbins?

  There's lots of differences, but I'd say the first one is, someone who is financially rich is an owner. They're not a consumer. They're a consumer also. But when somebody is poor, they're a consumer. That all they do is they take the, you know, I always tell people, we're all financial traders. A lot of people say, "I'm not a financial trader." Yes, you are. You're trading time for money.

• 11:56Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 11:57Tony Robbins?

  That's the worst trade you can ever make in your life. Somebody who's wealthy has made money their slave. They're no longer the slave to money. And the way they do that is they figured out how to become an owner. And the way you do that, in the most simplistic way, I even taught it in my first book, was you have to decide, there's a percentage of money that you're gonna keep forever. You're not gonna give it to Kate Spade, or Ferrari, or anybody else. You can do that too. But there's a percentage of that income that never will be touched, that you will grow and compound, and will provide income for the rest of your life, so you don't have to work. Now, when I was growing up, everybody's goal was, get rich enough so you never have to work. Now, like all my friends are 15, 8, 18 years my senior. People like Steve Wynn, who built most of Las Vegas, he's like 74. Warren Buffett's 85.

• 12:40Tony Robbins?

  Peter Guber, one of my dearest friends in the world, owns the Golden State Warriors, the LA Dodgers. We're partners in the LAFC football team in LA. Brilliant guy, 74 years old. And they're all working harder now than they ever were, and they don't have to work. So the goal is, make enough money so you don't have to work, and then you'll do what you love, and you'll pour your time and energy into it. But you have to make that decision. It's the first, most important decision, is I'm gonna become an owner of American business. You don't wanna have an Apple phone and not own Apple. And you don't wanna just own Apple, because any company can go up and down.

• 13:10Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 13:10Tony Robbins?

  Right? You wanna own the index. You wanna own, you know, a variety with enough diversification. But if you can just shift, and I've taught people who've told me they couldn't, they have no money, they can't save, it's really easy once you get momentum. There's a research project I did with a gentleman who was nominated for Nobel Prize on behavioral finance. And what he did was, he said, if you can even, you know, you need to save 15% ideally. But if you could even save 3%, because anybody can do that. They took a group of blue collar workers in the Midwest and said, "We're gonna force you to save 3%," I think it was 3 and 1/4, or 3 and 1/2. But then we're, everybody can die, go on a diet tomorrow. Everybody can save money tomorrow. Yeah. So his tool was, alright, you're not gonna save today, you're gonna save tomorrow. We'll do the three and a half percent.

• 13:55Tony Robbins?

  But then you go to your employer and say, the next time I get a raise, the first five percent goes to my savings account, to my investing account. And then every time you get a raise, you do that. Well, in fourteen years, the average person was saving fifteen percent and the top forty percent were saving twenty. And let me explain what that means. You and I were together before. When I'm trying to explain compounding to people, everybody understands it intellectually. But when I ask some of the richest people in the world, what are most investors failing to do? And they all say, they're not topping the power of compounding. So if you're in a situation where, as an example, let's take, you're, you've got a hundred thousand dollars that you've saved, you're thirty-five years old, and you put it in the market and just leave it there, never add anything to it.

• 14:39Tony Robbins?

  If you leave it in the market and you're only being charged one percent in fees, at retirement, thirty-five years later, you got seven hundred and sixty-two thousand from that hundred. Never added a dime, they grew that much. Wow. But if you pay three percent of fees, which is the average most people are paying, when you ask people where they're paying, they don't know, or they say one percent. Because when you hear about fees, let's say a mutual fund fee, you always hear one percent. That's the expense ratio. There are seventeen other fees. So every one percent you overpay, you know, one percent is the average. If you pay two or three, and the average mutual fund is three point one two, something nothing, one or two percent. But every one percent you overpay because of compounding Right. means you lose a decade of income. So the person paying one percent has seven hundred and sixty-two thousand, the person who paid three percent has four hundred and fifty-two thousand dollars, and they own

• 15:24Tony Robbins?

  the same stocks. It's just fees. So while we compound our interest, we also compound fees. So if you could save three percent, build it to five, ten, fifty, or you start with ten or fifteen and eventually get to twenty, the best example I can give your viewers is that there's a gentleman who worked for UPS, who literally never made more than fourteen thousand dollars a year, you heard about him in the book, and when he retired, he had seventy million dollars. And he gave away thirty-five million while he was alive. And the reason was, a friend of his set him aside and said, look, I'm gonna make you rich. He goes, I'm never gonna be rich, I make fourteen grand a year. He goes, I'm gonna make you rich. I'm gonna make you rich later in life, and I'm gonna do it by getting a twenty percent tax to your business. And he goes, I make fourteen thousand a year, I can't live on twenty percent less.

• 16:09Tony Robbins?

  His friend said to him, If the IRS came and said a 20% more tax, you'd scream, you'd yell, and you'd pay it.

• 16:15Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 16:16Tony Robbins?

  And he said, but we're gonna pay it for you. And that 20% compounded generated 70 million dollars.

• 16:21Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 16:22Tony Robbins?

  So for the people that are at home, the sooner you start, the better off you are because compounding does it. I've got an example in the book of a guy that starts at 19, he puts aside $300 a month. He stops at 27.

• 16:34Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm.

• 16:34Tony Robbins?

  So he does it for eight years. He only puts in, I think it was 35,000 dollars.

• 16:39Lewis Howes?

  Yep.

• 16:40Tony Robbins?

  But it's a, it's a million dollars by leaving it in the market when he turned 65 and he stopped at 28. He has a best friend that starts at 28, invests his entire life, puts in 180,000 dollars, and he has less money at the end. The sooner you start, the better you are.

• 16:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 16:56Lewis Howes?

  So many questions I want to ask.

• 16:57Tony Robbins?

  I don't know.

• 16:58Lewis Howes?

  So many I want to ask. So what up, is there a way to be financially free just by saying, I'm gonna earn more every year as opposed to investing every year? Can you do it without investing at all, or do you have to invest? And when you say put it in the market, you mean put it in index funds?

• 17:13Tony Robbins?

  Well, in the book, I explain, you've got to have diversification.

• 17:16Lewis Howes?

  Right. Don't just throw it in the stock and just leave it there.

• 17:19Tony Robbins?

  And what most people do is they go to a mutual fund.

• 17:20Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 17:21Tony Robbins?

  They think it, it sounds logical. I'm, I'm no good at this. This is not my skill. A person says, you go to a professional, runs a mutual fund. What do they do? They figure out a series of investments to make. They put it in the fund and they do it for you. And you think, well, gosh, you know, they're smarter than I am. They'll do well. You assume that, but the truth is they charge so much that even if they did have an advantage, they lose it. I interviewed David Swensen, who's the head of chief investment officer at Yale. It took Yale 200 years to get a billion dollars that they saved. He turned into 25 billion in two decades.

• 17:54Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 17:54Tony Robbins?

  It's unheard of. He's the greatest institutional investor of all time. And one of the things that he told me, he said, Tony, you just got to understand something. He said, you're never gonna earn your way to wealth. He said, how many people have you seen, movie stars, actors, athletes? You know, the other day, 50 Cent just went broke, right?

• 18:10Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 18:10Tony Robbins?

  He made a hundred million dollars on vitamin water alone. Somebody gave him a tip. And he's, he was at a half, a half a billion dollars and he's broke, completely broke. Mike Tyson made a half a billion dollars and went broke. You can understand that a little bit.

• 18:23Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. I think it's 78% of NFL players go bankrupt two years after they retire.

• 18:28Tony Robbins?

  And the average lifespan of an NFL player is three and a half years. So these guys work their whole life. They go through these rough injuries and they don't know how to invest. So the answer is. You can make a fortune. Elton John didn't go bankrupt because it's different rules in England, but he got in trouble. Who I just saw the other day is, um, what's his name? The Pirates of Caribbean? What's his name? Um, Johnny Depp? Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp's going bankrupt right now. Johnny Depp. He's making like 20, 30 million a year. Johnny Depp was worth $700 million, three quarters of a billion. He's on the verge of bankruptcy right now, can't pay his bills. He was paying $30,000 a month on wine alone. Oh my gosh. He spent $3 million to take Hunter Thompson's body, burn it, put the dust into this giant cannon

• 19:12Tony Robbins?

  and shoot his dust into space. Three million bucks. It doesn't matter how much money you earn, you can always get rid of it and lose it. Buy an island and watch how quickly it disappears. Yeah, exactly. So what I show people is, what you really want to do is create an income for life without working. The goal, if you own a business, and I would assume a lot of your viewers are business owners or are getting started in business, no matter how good you are in business, think about this. The one universal rule that idiots in finance know is diversification. It's the only free lunch. You've got to diversify. Because if you put all your eggs in one basket, no matter how good the basket is, one day that real estate market, that stock market, that bond market, that collectibles market, whatever you invest in, Ray Dalio showed me statistically, it'll drop 50 to 70% on a day.

• 19:58Tony Robbins?

  Now, if you're later in life and that happens, it's over for you. So you have to diversify and yet most people, they know real estate, so they do it. Or they know stocks, they do it. Or they grew up with their parents flipping things. And it's the wrong thing to do. So you've got to diversify in order for you to be able to truly succeed. And that's why, when you own a business, if you put all your money in your business, which is what most of us do naturally. A lot of risk, yeah. You put all your eggs in one basket and there's things that can happen. I mean, you know, you're, let's say you spent 20 years and you figured out how to put together the ultimate map. You know, and you remember Garmin came out with this thing called the TomTom. I don't know if you remember, it used to put on your, are you old enough to remember that? Of course, yeah, yeah. Or you just put on your dash. It cost a hundred bucks. It was a breakthrough.

• 20:44Tony Robbins?

  They were making like a hundred million or something, or yeah. They were. Six months later, what happened?

• 20:49Lewis Howes?

  The iPhone came out with Google Maps.

• 20:51Tony Robbins?

  These little bastards, this is my friend, came out with it, put Google Maps, put their own map on here and asked how much? Zero. What's that gonna do to your business when someone takes your product deserve and gives away for free? So I always tell people, competition happens, technology happens. What you must do is have a second business with no, with no moving parts, no people, no time. Maybe it takes you two, two, three days a year for two or three hours after you've read the book. You put it in place and you measure it two or three times a year. That's it.

• 21:19Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 21:19Tony Robbins?

  Go on with your life. Now if there's a trouble in your business, you're financially set. I, in my life, have thirty-one companies now. We have, you know, what do we have? Twelve hundred employees, seven different industries. We do five billion in sales. I mean, I, that used to be, you know, me and my seminar business. It's grown geometrically. But with all those moving parts, the only way I've been able to succeed is because I've taken every one of those businesses and I've diversified my assets so that when things were in trouble, I still have enough economics to take care of myself and keep the business going. So everybody needs to create a money machine that works while you sleep, that doesn't have moving parts, and that's what this is really about.

• 21:57Lewis Howes?

  You have a great cartoon in the book where there's a kid asking his father, you know, something about like, how do you invest your money or how's the stock market work? And he says, you put your money in at the peak, it starts to go down and lose money. And so you get scared and you take it out and then someone smarter than you makes all the money. Something like that. So how do we, and I've done that in the past where I put my money in somewhere high, it went down and I was like, oh, I just lost a bunch of money. Let me take it out.

• 22:25Tony Robbins?

  Yeah.

• 22:26Lewis Howes?

  And then I put it back in another time and I'm like, what am I doing? So how do we invest without fear of, oh, it's going down, I need to take it out? Or like trying to time it? How do we do that?

• 22:38Tony Robbins?

  Great question. It's one of the main reasons I wrote the book. I always tell people, if you just read the second chapter of the book and nothing else, it'll change your life. You can do that with multiple chapters. But that chapter is really about teaching people that winter is coming. We all know winter's coming, right? Quite a phrase. But that winter is the best time on earth. And I know that's counterintuitive. And I don't mean like being a positive thinker. I mean pure facts. So in the book, I take you through ten facts. I'll give you a couple of them right now. The first fact I give people is, why do people not invest? They're afraid of failing. They, you're a millennial, right? So you grew up witnessing 2008 when you were still relatively young. How old are you now?

• 23:16Lewis Howes?

  Thirty-three.

• 23:16Tony Robbins?

  Okay, so you were, what, twenty-seven? What, what, what?

• 23:20Lewis Howes?

  Two thousand eight, uh, yeah, twenty-seven, I guess.

• 23:23Tony Robbins?

  Yeah, twenty-seven, twenty-eight years old. So you're a young man and you're watching the world melting down in front of you. For most millennials, they are the first generation since the generation that went through the depression that is not investing at the ratio they need to even close.

• 23:37Lewis Howes?

  And they have more debt than everyone, probably, right? With all the loans.

• 23:40Tony Robbins?

  They have more college debt than everyone, absolutely true.

• 23:41Lewis Howes?

  I have a friend that has four hundred thousand dollars in debt. Dental school.

• 23:45Tony Robbins?

  President Obama just paid off his debt five years ago while he was still president.

• 23:48Lewis Howes?

  What? No.

• 23:49Tony Robbins?

  I swear to God.

• 23:50Lewis Howes?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 23:51Tony Robbins?

  It's mind-boggling. And he had a bunch of scholarships, but the last bit, it took him that long. So what I tell them is, listen, debt, paying off your debt's not enough. You've got to become an owner or you're always gonna be in that place. So yes, pay off your debt, but here's what you need to know. You gotta become an owner. You gotta get in the game, but you gotta understand the rules of the game. You don't know the rules of the game. The old phrase is, you get, you know, when a person with experience meets a person with money. We know the phrase. The person with the money ends up with the experience. The person with the experience ends up with your money, right? So I teach people the rules of the game so they don't get screwed. But the most important thing is this. Winter's coming, but people react. So let's take last year. Last January, twenty sixteen, we had the worst stock market opening in the history of the stock market. Worst first, I think it was ten days.

• 24:35Tony Robbins?

  There was a drop of two point three trillion dollars with a T.

• 24:39Lewis Howes?

  Crazy.

• 24:40Tony Robbins?

  Everybody's freaking thinking the bear market's here, the market's over, the crash is here. I think the market dropped eight hundred points one day. And on that day, all the richest people in the world were in Davos, Switzerland, you know, for the big conference that they do every year. And they went there, MSNBC went there, and everybody's freaking, what's happening? What are we gonna do? And they said, let's go ask Ray Dalio. Now, your listeners may or may not know Ray Dalio as... If you're not in the financial business, probably never heard of him. You've probably heard of Warren Buffett, but Ray Dalio's been more. You have to have a $5 billion net worth and $100 million to give him where he wouldn't talk to you 10 years ago. Now, he doesn't care for shit how much money you have, he won't talk to you because he's got a closed fund. But they go and they put Dalio on television, CNBC, he's the king. What do we do? And he says, "Well, you don't need to panic.

• 25:24Tony Robbins?

  Corrections happen all the time, but you need a strategy that when markets go up and down, you don't go up and down." And he said, "I spent 15 years of my life to perfect such a strategy. All of my money's in that plan." And he said, "It's called all seasons, and I've never revealed it before, but I gave it to Tony Robbins. He extracted it from me and it's his book, so you ought to go read his book." So he says on national television, "The data markets are crashing." And that day, to give you an idea, which was the beginning of February, I think it was nine days into February, the market was down 9% in the first five weeks of the year. His strategy, which he gave me, which has made money 85% of the time for the last 75 years.

• 26:04Tony Robbins?

  It's averaged a 10% return, just under, and the average loss, when it 15% loss, was 1.6. So if you go to Vegas and you could spend 85% of the time make money, and when you made money, it was 10%, your loss is 1.6, you could go forever. His plan made 2% while the market was down 9%, so it was up 11% difference. Now, I'm not suggesting that's the only strategy to do, there's many. His is the smoothest ride with the least risk. But what he did was, a combination of that, and then right after that, I interviewed Fed Chair Alan Greenspan. He was the head of our economy, the most powerful man in finance for 19 years, four presidents. He was there running. I was just with President Clinton this last week, he was the Fed Chair for him.

• 26:47Tony Robbins?

  And I interviewed him for like two hours, you know, or three hours offstage, two hours in front. And I asked him, in the very beginning of this thing, I said to him, I said, "Look, if you could be put in the Fed today, what would you do?" And he looks at me, and as I said, he leans forward and he says, "Resign." So I look at that and go, "Oh my God, I need to write a book that'll free people. So here's what'll free you. Everyone's afraid of the crash, so here's what you need to know, two terms you should understand. Correction versus crash." Anytime the market drops from its high by 10% or more, up to 20, it's called a correction. Right. If it drops 20% or more, up to 80%, like, you know, the Great Depression, then it's called a crash, or called a bear market, okay? So how often does a correction happen?

• 27:31Tony Robbins?

  How often do we have to be prepared for it? Since 1900, we've had a correction, on average, every year. Wow. For 116 years. So, when is winter coming? This year, on average. Every year. It's like, how often does winter come? You wouldn't be surprised if it storms and rains. Now, some winters are long, some are short, some are harsh, some are light, but winter always comes. So, I wasn't panicked when this happened last year. I'm not panicked whenever it happens, because I know it's supposed to be. Yeah. How long does it last? Average, 56 days. Okay, so just under two months. What's the average drop during that time? 14% over the last 30 years, 13.5% of the last 100 years. So I use the more recent one. 14% gets your attention, right? 14%, you get a little gut check.

• 28:17Tony Robbins?

  But here's what you need to know. 80% of all corrections never become a bear market. 80%. Hmm. So all this fear, and what people do is, what you said you did, is, they see it, it's freaking out, I'm losing money, I'm the hell out of here. And they get out. The stock market never took a dime from anybody, only you can take it from you. You sold, that's why you lost. Right. Right? So if you look back and say, what was it like in 2008? I can remember vividly, being with my platinum partners and saying, you see these $80 stocks? This is six months before the crash. I told them in April, I brought them to Dubai, and I said, these stocks are gonna go to 8, and some are gonna go to a buck. Wow. And by October, and I told them what to do, so they were able to get out. October, I go on the Today Show, in October of 2008, and they go,

• 29:02Tony Robbins?

  Tony, there's been $3 trillion meltdown. Pump the country up, you got four minutes. Ready, go. That's not what I do, first of all, and I said, that'd be a lie, I'm not gonna buy a moment. At that point, the eighty dollar stocks were eight. I said, some of those, I said, I'm not a market forecaster, but I work with Paul Tudor Jones, one of the greatest investors in the history of the world. In the biggest market crash in history, you know, nineteen eighty seven, he made two hundred percent. Wow. When everybody else was losing their entire life. I've been coaching him continuously now for twenty-four years, every single day. So I said, I work with the best in the world, and they're telling me, based on history in the thirties and history in the seventies, those eight dollar stocks somewhere gonna be a buck. And I remember the day, in March of two thousand nine, Citibank, which had been, I think, seventy dollars,

• 29:47Tony Robbins?

  sold for ninety-seven cents. You could go and take your money out of the ATM. It cost you more to take your money out than to own the bank, right? And then I told people, it'll jump from ninety-nine cents to six, ten, twelve dollars in a month or two, and it's exactly what it did, right? So, what you gotta know is corrections happen every year. You got another couple months, gotta know it's fourteen percent, and you won't lose, because eighty percent of the time, it doesn't go to a bear. Now, what about the bear? The bear market, it happens, to give you an idea, in the last hundred years, every three to five years. You've gone eight without one. We're way overdue. Though, in modern years, last thirty years, it's about every five years. The average length of a bear is one year, the average drop is thirty-three percent.

• 30:32Tony Robbins?

  A third of those drops go forty percent or above. That, I don't care how well-prepared you are, that's a scary thing. Yeah. But it is the greatest opportunity in your lifetime to go from wherever you are financially to where you wanna be. I hope your audience is listening right now. Hear me. If you wanna leapfrog, and you're a millennial and you think there's no future, or you're, you know, a baby boomer and you think you're too old and it's too late, the greatest gift you have is coming. I know it doesn't sound like it, this is not positive thinking bullshit, this is the truth. Wall Street, the stock market is the only place that when things go on sale, people freak out. If I said, "You like Ferraris?" Sure. If I said to you, "Ferraris go on sale for 50% off." Awesome.

• 31:15Tony Robbins?

  But when I tell you, "Apple's on sale for 50% off," you go, "Oh, what am I gonna do here? What's wrong? The world's coming to an end." If you think about it, how old are you? Thirty-three. Thirty-three. So, let's assume if you were 35 and you lived to 85, you got 50, 52 years ahead of you. That means you have 52 more corrections to live through. Right. That means you're probably in those 50 years, gonna have 10 more bear markets to live through. If you're gonna have gut checks every time, or you're gonna leave out of it. Right. If you didn't participate because you thought, "Oh, the market's too volatile, I can't trust it, all that stuff," you missed 250% return in the last eight years. I mean, you've missed out on everything while you're waiting for things to be better. And if you won't do it when it's like this, when it crashes, you're not gonna get in. Sure.

• 31:59Tony Robbins?

  So, here's the good news about the bear. Good news about the bear, average ones a year, could be longer, but that's the average, could be shorter. But here's what's cool, every single bear market in the history of the United States has led to a bull market. Meaning, right afterwards, so 2008, this plummeting, what happened in 2009, up 67% in a year. I can show you every single bear market, and the next year when it comes out, it's this explosion. Now, that's not true in every market in the world, it's true for two centuries in the United States. Wow. So, that's why Warren Buffett says, "I wanna be greedy when people are afraid." And I wanna be afraid when people are greedy. If you remember 2008, he was telling everybody, "Buy," he was having the time of his life. Buy, buy, buy, everything's on sale.

• 32:40Tony Robbins?

  So, what you have to do to become unshakable is turn, the metaphor I use is turn the snake into the rope. Meaning, we all know the story, it's the middle of the night, you're walking through the yard or someplace, and you see a snake, and you're freaked out, you pull back, you come in the morning, and it's a rope. Once you know it's a rope, you're never afraid again. Yeah. I wanna take for people investing, and show them how to turn that snake into the rope it really is. And I'll tell you one final stat on all this. People always say, and you started to bring it up, timing. How do I time it? Like, right now, things are too expensive, oh, to wait. People have been saying that for eight years. Is there gonna be correction? Yes. But when it corrects, you just, you wanna invest again. You'll get dollar cost averaging. If you paid a little too much here, you'll pay paying less here. It'll bring the average price to a reasonable place.

• 33:25Tony Robbins?

  It's gonna allow you to succeed. But here's what people need to know about timing. If you are not in the market, it's the most dangerous thing. This is so counterintuitive, so I hope your audience is listening. Let me show you. Research, there's two different research projects. One was done by JP Morgan. I just spoke to them the other day at their alternative investments conference. And to be in the room, there are 400 people. You have to have a billion dollar network to get in the room.

• 33:47Lewis Howes?

  Crazy.

• 33:48Tony Robbins?

  It was mind boggling, right? So JP Morgan did a study, and also Schwab did a separate study. 20-year studies. In the last 20 years, to give you an idea, the average S and P 500, that index, has produced 8.2%. Over 30 years, it was 10.28. But in the last 20 years, a little bit less. Still great. You double your money, you know, roughly, you're in a position where you double the money a little more than every, you know, you know, what is it now? 7.2, so it'll be like, a little more in 10 years.

• 34:17Tony Robbins?

  Well, here's what they found out. If you miss the 10 best trading days in 20 years, because you're trying to time the market and you're not in it during one of those days, you win from 8.2% return over that period per annum, per year. It dropped down almost half, 4.5. What are the chances of you knowing the past 10 days to trade in 20 years? None. Right? Warren Buffett said, "Market timers and market forecasters are only there to make fortune tellers look good, because no one can do it successfully. Even if they do it for a while, it doesn't last. It's luck." You know, Jack Bogle told me, who started Vanguard, you know, three trillion dollar company. He said, "We took gorillas, a thousand in a room, and had them flip coins. And we did, we said, how many times it got heads, how many it got tails? Just gorillas flipping them randomly."

• 35:01Tony Robbins?

  And he said, "One gorilla, in that set of those turns, flipped heads 21 times in a row."

• 35:09Tony Robbins?

  Now, when you look at that and see all these gorillas doing it, you look at it and say, "What a lucky gorilla." He said, "But in the hedge fund industry and the mutual fund industry, when somebody does 10 in a row, you go, 'What a brilliant investor.'"

• 35:19Lewis Howes?

  Right, what a genius.

• 35:20Tony Robbins?

  And it's just averages and luck at that time.

• 35:22Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 35:23Tony Robbins?

  In fact, he showed me that 96% of all mutual funds fail to match the market over a 10-year period of time. Only 4% make it, and they're constantly changing. So, the statistic I want people to know is, if you miss the 20 best trading days in the last 20 years, just 20 days in 20 years, one day a year in 20 years, and you're wrong, you're wrong on timing. Your 8.2 doesn't drop to 4.5, it drops to 2%, you might as well have been owning a bond. You have no risk.

• 35:51Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 35:52Tony Robbins?

  If you miss the top 40 trading days, to give you an idea, you are minus 2%. So, you've got to get in the market, and if you're saying, "What about my timing now?" Studies known by Schwab, if you've got the perfect timing for the year, the right day, the best possible day to buy, some people, the worst day, someone else dollar-cost averages, just keeps spending the same amount every month, regardless of prices, and somebody stays in cash. Who has the worst return? Cash. You get nothing for cash. The guy who was the best had the best timing. The guy that was the worst, the guy that dollar-cost averaged, and the one that was on the worst day, or almost identical, but after seven years, there was only a $20,000 difference in accumulated assets between the worst day and the best day. The worst was not being in the market.

• 36:37Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 36:38Tony Robbins?

  See, you've got to be there. And I'm not saying put everything in stocks. We teach in the book all these different assets. But stocks, in the last two centuries, have provided the highest returns. So, you have to have significant exposure to that if you want to get the highest return.

• 36:49Lewis Howes?

  Got it. And what I love in the book, you say that 80% of financial success is psychological, 20% is mechanical.

• 36:56Tony Robbins?

  Yes.

• 36:57Lewis Howes?

  So, it's not about timing and trying to like, figure all these things out, and when's the best thing, or the best fund, or best whatever.

• 37:03Tony Robbins?

  This is not about trading, it's about investing. Trading is trying to do that, and most people lose money trading. Even the guys that tell you to make money, see it all, they're making money two or three years from now. They usually eat the dust, right?

• 37:13Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 37:13Tony Robbins?

  So, yes, you've got to have the psychology, and my best way of psychology is not to pump you up. If you want to be unshakable, you want to be educated, and you want to know the facts. You want to know, "Look, every five years, I'm going to get a bear, maybe three years. I'm going to get a correction every year, but I'm going to be in the market and make money." Do you know that... Six of the 10 best trading days in the 20 years happened within two weeks of the worst trading day. So when Trump was elected, the market dropped, I think it was 800 points that night. Then at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning, he made a speech where he was somewhat, you know, human and normal. And the market got all its money back and since then we're up 14% in November, December, January, three months, February, you know, three and a half months.

• 37:55Tony Robbins?

  So people need to understand, you gotta be in the market because the worst days will bring you your best days.

• 38:00Lewis Howes?

  Exactly. Now, I went to India last year and I went to One World Academy.

• 38:06Tony Robbins?

  That's great.

• 38:07Lewis Howes?

  Connected with Christian G and Preeti G, the whole team. And I went for two and a half weeks.

• 38:11Tony Robbins?

  That's awesome.

• 38:12Lewis Howes?

  It was a game changer. And I'd heard that you'd went there.

• 38:14Tony Robbins?

  Yes.

• 38:15Lewis Howes?

  And when I read the end of the book, you talked about beautiful state, suffering state, what I learned.

• 38:21Tony Robbins?

  Yes.

• 38:22Lewis Howes?

  And I love how you share that, you know, you used to talk about, you know, being in peak state as often as you can, but now you really kind of transitioned into beautiful state, right?

• 38:31Tony Robbins?

  Yeah, well, Christian G and I were talking, he sets it really beautiful to me. He's a dear friend, I've known him for, I guess about 15 years. His father is one of the most powerful spiritual teachers in India. Oneness, yeah. So, you know, to give you an idea, he's considered an avatar there. So I went there and they had an opening, Christian G helped organize it. And they expected a quarter of a million people over five days and a half a million people showed up the first morning. So it was like the ultimate craziness, if you imagine. So he's got some really beautiful grounding in his father is not just a religious man, he's really a spiritual man. He believes whatever you believe is wonderful, but what you have to do is wire your brain so that you're connected to the aspect of your spirit or oneness. And he teaches various ways to do this. So anyway, Christian G and I, over the years, have done a lot of fun things together.

• 39:14Tony Robbins?

  And this, about two years ago, we were having a conversation and he said, you know, you teach, the secret to life is peak state versus lousy state, or being energy rich versus energy poor, that a relationship, you can love somebody, but if the energy's low, it's not gonna show up, the energy's high. Well, he swapped those words and he swapped peak state for beautiful state. I said, "That works, you know, a high-energy state is a beautiful state." Any state where you're high-energy would be like love, or joy, or gratitude, or drive, or courage, or faith, or, you know, playfulness, or fun. Any of those things are beautiful states. He goes, "Yeah, yeah, I agree." And I said, "And then suffering states would be low-energy states." So that would be frustration, sadness, anger, resentment, loneliness, boredom, whatever. He goes, "Yeah, that's exactly right."

• 39:59Tony Robbins?

  I said, "I can swap those." He goes, "If you swap them, there's something cool that you might see or do." I said, "What's that, Krishnamurti?" And he said, "Well, he said, 'I've made a decision that I'm gonna live my life where I'm gonna live in a beautiful state every day, no matter what. Even if it doesn't, even if it rains on my parade, even if people do things that are unjust.'" And he said, "The reason is because in a beautiful state, just like you teach, a big state, everything flows." And I said, "Well, that's pretty much what I've been teaching." He goes, "Yes, but if you think of the lousy states as suffering states, he said, 'then you can end suffering just by ending the state.'" And I said, "I don't really relate to the word 'suffering,' and I think most achievers do. Most achievers don't even get fearful, we get stressed." I always tell people, "Fear is the achieving word for stress,

• 40:44Tony Robbins?

  because if I fall to your stress, it'll take me to your fear." But I realized I didn't relate to suffering. Like, if you had told me two years ago, "Tony, do you suffer?" I'd say, "Are you kidding me? I got the greatest life, I have the most incredible wife and four kids, and I got thirty-one companies, and I'm financially free, and I have a mission I love, and I'm in good health." And that would all be honest, I wouldn't have been dishonest about it. But what really helped me out of that conversation, I left there and I went, "Well, where do I suffer?" And I realized frustration is suffering. I get frustrated, you know? I get concerned, I get pissed off, I get, you know, worried sometimes. I get these feelings. And so what I decided to do was, you know, just really create a ninety-second rule for myself where I would end suffering as it arises. Because anybody tells you you're gonna end suffering is full of crap.

• 41:28Tony Robbins?

  The reason is, your brain is a two-million-year-old brain, and it's not designed to make you happy, it's designed to make you survive. But there's no saber-tooth tiger for you to react to anymore. So now we worry about, "What are people thinking of us? Do I have enough money?" And in this country, in America, if you are in utter poverty, and I hate poverty, I've eaten a hundred million people a year, so I'm not sitting on the sidelines. But if you make the worst and the least amount of money in this country and you're in total poverty, you're in the 1% of earners on the earth. Cause 75% of planet lives on $2.50 a day.

• 41:58Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 41:58Tony Robbins?

  Right. So what I try to do is show people you can't dwell on failure. You can only dwell on success. So over the last two years, what I've done is play this little 92nd rule. And if I feel tension in me, I go, okay, that's suffering. Where's it come from? What am I stressed about? What are you concerned about? And what I immediately do is I realize the stressful thought, since I've seen Christian G, I kind of traded one thing. What I really do now is I dig in and I notice that the only time you have stress or suffer is when you believe a stressful thought. So what would be one or two of the most stressful thoughts that happen to you most often? Cause we all have them, right? And you can be an overachiever and you still do it. So what would be two thoughts that show up a lot that make you stressed?

• 42:38Lewis Howes?

  You know, something's not going well in my business, or it's not the way I want it to look or be, or, you know, someone on my team messed up and it makes me look a certain way, or my, you know.

• 42:49Tony Robbins?

  So there's a sense of loss.

• 42:50Lewis Howes?

  Yes. My identity or yes, my ego gets like.

• 42:54Tony Robbins?

  Yes. So what I told Christian G is I said, Christian G, I said, I think I've found the three triggers to suffering. He goes, what's that? I said, it's lost, less, never. Whenever you believe, your mind believes a stressful thought like, oh my God, I'm not, my business is not going anywhere. Oh, this guy screwed this up and now I've lost something. I've lost this opportunity, or I've lost the time, or I've lost the money. Or it cannot be someone else, it could be you. You could say, I failed to do this. I did something or I failed to do something and as a result, I've lost something I value. Significance, trust, love, money, freedom, whatever. Or you've said something or did something or failed to do something, or I failed to do something or say something. And I feel like I have less love or less money or less freedom, less will make you suffer. The one that's worse is never.

• 43:40Tony Robbins?

  If you start believing that because she said that, or she did that, or because I failed to do this, or I said that, I'll never have love again. I'll never be wealthy. I'll never be free. Once you believe that shit, it's true, cause you won't initiate, you won't solve it, you won't create it. So I'm very sensitive to lost, less, never. Anything that triggers that and the antidote to it is to realize it's not you. So your thought of, God, you know, my business is stressful, is this gonna, you know, I'm sure it'll make it, but a little more part of you like, is this gonna make it?

• 44:09Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 44:09Tony Robbins?

  Or this guy screwed up and look, it screwed me out of all these things. When those things happen and you suffer. It puts you in a mode, what you're really suffering about is yourself. And you were honest about it. Thank you for that. I saw you do it. You said, you know, well, I was thinking this guy did this and it cost me this.

• 44:25Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 44:25Tony Robbins?

  It's the me, me, me that makes us suffer.

• 44:28Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 44:29Tony Robbins?

  When a woman will say, I'm really worried about my children. I'm, you know, I'm really stressed. She's suffering about her children and I'll listen to her. And I'll say, tell me. And she'll say, well, they're not doing this, not doing that. And I'll turn to her usually and say, I hope you can hear yourself because the real reason you're suffering is not because your children. It's not because they're not doing well. It's because you think you failed them.

• 44:46Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 44:47Tony Robbins?

  It's about you. Cause otherwise you'd just be working on the solution.

• 44:50Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 44:51Tony Robbins?

  But you're busy beating yourself up, feeling bad, thinking the worst case scenario, right? So the antidote to suffering, the antidote to loss less than ever is appreciation. I always tell people, trade your expectation for appreciation. Your whole life changes. So I was just doing this talk here earlier and I shared with them experience and I'm fortunate enough to have my own, you know, private jet now. But it's a intercontinental jet. So I can fly straight to China. It's bigger than a Gulfstream. It's a global express. So it's like having your own bed in the sky, office in the sky. It's just amazing.

• 45:17Lewis Howes?

  We filmed in there last time.

• 45:19Tony Robbins?

  Oh, that's right. I forgot about that.

• 45:20Lewis Howes?

  We filmed the interview.

• 45:20Tony Robbins?

  So it's fun. So you got the sense of it. It's just so great. But up until that time, I was chartering.

• 45:26Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 45:26Tony Robbins?

  But half of my business was overseas and it's like, you know, $400,000 to fly to Australia and back on a Gulfstream. So it didn't make any sense. I finally did well enough. I sold a couple of companies, made a couple of hundred million dollars and I went and bought the plane. But before that, I would be so stressed getting on Qantas Airlines to fly to Australia. First class. I would be so stressed because in my head I'd go, there's no internet. I'm caught up for 14 hours. I got 31 companies. I mean, I got this list of calls and texts and slacks and emails and, and by the time I get there, it's going to triple in size.

• 45:59Lewis Howes?

  You're going to lose money. Yeah.

• 46:00Tony Robbins?

  I'd be all stressed out, right? And then one day I'd ask myself, what the F is stressful about sitting? Or lying when you go to bed, you know, even on a commercial flight like that in first class. And I realized what an idiot I was, but it still grabbed me. You'd still suffer. And I remember one of the last times it happened before I got my plane, ironically. The, they announced on the air, they said, uh, ladies and gentlemen, we're proud to announce we have international internet. And it was like God descended the airplane. We're all cheering, clapping. It's so wonderful, right? And, and then within about nine minutes, the thing broke down.

• 46:33Lewis Howes?

  Oh man, yeah. Everyone's out there.

• 46:34Tony Robbins?

  Everybody's pissed. They're like, oh, this is bullshit. I can't believe this. I'm not putting up with this. And I tell a story because nine minutes before it was a miracle. Now, after nine minutes, it's already an expectation. Wow. And when you have expectations, you're always miserable. I realized my happiness was so cheap because all I had to do was have this nearby and I could lose my happiness. Because thirty-one companies, twelve hundred employees, you know, five continents, I think, yeah, five continents now. Seventy, what are the chances that right now someone is screwing up something with that many employees and that many businesses? A hundred percent chance. Hundred percent. So all I had to do was wait and open up and find the beast there. It's like, ah, I can't believe what the hell is the matter with them?

• 47:16Tony Robbins?

  See, I realized all I had to do is have my phone to be stressed. If that's true, my happiness is so cheap. Because what are the chances of everybody doing exactly what you think they should do the right way every day? Zero. Zero. What are the chances of the people you love doing what you want them to do, the way you want to do them every day? Zero. What are the chances of you doing the right thing every day, even if you're talented and disciplined? Zero. So your happiness will never last as long as it's got expectation behind it. Don't get me wrong, I have businesses, I run them, we manage them. But I know that people are gonna screw up, or my idea of screw up is different than I think they should be. And sometimes their screw up will turn into something even better. Right? I gotta give it room.

• 47:58Tony Robbins?

  So what I did was, I began to realize, I made the decision, it's the most important decision, I believe, of your life, that I'm not gonna suffer anymore, life's too short to suffer, and I'm gonna live in a beautiful state every day. And the way I do it is, I catch myself when I start to get that sense of stress, I let it go, and I see the eye to go by. So your thoughts, thoughts about this person messing up your business or not following through. If I was in a room with ten thousand people, I guarantee you sixty, seventy percent of the business owners have the same thoughts at times, right? I ask people all the time, tell me your most stressful thought. Oh, I'm worried about my children, this may happen. How many of you have had that thought? Everybody. Uh, I might not make it financially, well, how many have that? Everybody. My point is, it's not your thought, it's the mind, not your mind.

• 48:43Tony Robbins?

  When you think it's your mind, you identify with it, and it's, you can't separate from yourself. Right. But when you realize, these thoughts have been around for millions of years. And I'm just thinking the same thought that so many people thought before. Like, how many people have ever thought, "I'm gonna kill the son of a bitch." Now, you didn't do it, but you didn't believe you're really gonna kill them. But you felt it, you said it, you were there, right? So, we all have thoughts. It's only the stressful thoughts we believe that mess us up. So, what I try to show people is, if you can start to realize, these thoughts have been around for millions of years. If I told you a million, you know, a thousand, a hundred years ago, that we're gonna go to the moon and back, you called me a lunatic or crazy. If I said a hundred years ago, you're gonna have a little box like this,

• 49:26Tony Robbins?

  it'll fit in your pocket, and you can click on it, and you can see what the weather is in any place. You could click on it and see a live person on the other side of the earth and talk to them by looking in this box. And the way it works is invisible waves are traveling around the earth, and it pulls invisible waves in the box. You go like, read between the lines. There's no way, you dumb idiot, it's never gonna happen. So, what I want you to realize is thoughts are invisible waves. When you turn on a TV, it takes invisible waves, and depending on the channel, you're gonna see a love story, or an adventure, or a drama, or a comedy.

• 49:59Lewis Howes?

  Horror.

• 49:59Tony Robbins?

  Or horror. The way you use your body determines which of those thought waves come through you. One moment, you're pissed off, the next moment, somebody makes you laugh, you change your body, you change the channel, you change what comes through you. So, what I've tried to do in this area of beautiful state is simple.

• 50:14Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 50:15Tony Robbins?

  First, identify where you're suffering. What's your favorite flavor? Are you a worrier? Are you a pissed off person?

• 50:20Lewis Howes?

  Stressed, angry.

• 50:21Tony Robbins?

  What is it you do? Second of all, decide you're gonna kill that monster while it's little. You're not gonna wait till it's Godzilla taking the city. You're gonna break the pattern. You start to feel the stress, you see it as thoughts going by, and then you focus on someone you appreciate, enjoy, or love. Appreciation, love, and joy destroy suffering. You can't be grateful and angry simultaneously. It's possible. You can't be worried and fearful and grateful simultaneously. So, I tell people gratitude is one of the emotions to cultivate that'll destroy the suffering. And that's what we teach people to do.

• 50:53Lewis Howes?

  We've got about 10 minutes, so I want to make sure I ask the right questions for you to end. And one of the things I love in the book that you say is success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure.

• 51:01Tony Robbins?

  Yes.

• 51:02Lewis Howes?

  And so it doesn't matter how rich you get from this book, or how driven you are to make money, if you don't understand how to live in a beautiful state and you're the wealthiest person in the world. You know a lot of billionaires who are miserable, I'm assuming.

• 51:13Tony Robbins?

  Correct.

• 51:14Lewis Howes?

  This is something important, and I love that it's in a financial make money book.

• 51:17Tony Robbins?

  Yes.

• 51:18Lewis Howes?

  Because, and it's the last chapter about beautiful state, because again, if we're driven so much to make money, I was there in my early twenties, that's all I cared about. I obsessed over making money.

• 51:27Tony Robbins?

  Yeah.

• 51:27Lewis Howes?

  And I got overweight, and I was miserable, and I was in bad relationships.

• 51:30Tony Robbins?

  Yeah.

• 51:31Lewis Howes?

  If I don't understand how to have fulfillment and peace inside, then the outside achievements don't matter.

• 51:37Tony Robbins?

  No, and you also, you'll just have a hard time maintaining great relationships of any sort, because you know, I mean, what a good human being you are. When we get in a lousy states, we behave in ways overtly and covertly, not even meaning to, that mess up our relationships. So I felt like I'd be remiss if I wrote a whole book on financial, exactly how to get wealthy, and then I didn't show you real wealth.

• 51:55Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 51:55Tony Robbins?

  Because there's lots of people, of the billionaires I'd interviewed, I don't want to grossly be unfair in estimate, but I would say the rarest commodity was somebody who was happy all the time. Somebody like Richard Branson, he is having the time of his life.

• 52:09Lewis Howes?

  He seems pretty happy.

• 52:10Tony Robbins?

  No, he really, he is sincerely that. He's hungry, he's driven, he's always growing, he's expanding, he's having fun. His favorite phrase, "Give it a go," Tom was "Give it a go." But I would say that it is the absolute minority. I tell people what's more rare than a billionaire is someone who's in a beautiful state every day, somebody who's happy every day. You get a new billionaire in the United States every six days, dime a dozen. Someone who's really, really, really happy, juicy. Like, my goal now, I have a different goal. My goal is, I want to find ecstasy in each moment. I want to find something to be passionate about each moment. And I've been living that the last two years religiously. In the beginning, my 90-second rule should have been like a four-hour rule, or maybe a four-day rule. I was really shitty at it.

• 52:52Tony Robbins?

  But when you do something again and again, it becomes like a muscle, right? And you get good at it, and it'll, it'll make you more wealthy than money will. But you don't have to beg. You're going to be wealthy in financial terms and wealthy in emotional terms too.

• 53:03Lewis Howes?

  I love it. I did a video yesterday and I asked my audience to submit questions. I was telling you before and I picked a bunch of them and I'll take the top few. That I think are interesting that maybe no one's really ever asked you. So hopefully, hopefully these are new questions for you. This is from Ryan Evers who said, what is the one thing you're still vulnerable about despite all your success you have? And what still makes you uncomfortable that a lot of people don't know about?

• 53:30Lewis Howes?

  Is there anything?

• 53:32Tony Robbins?

  What makes me uncomfortable?

• 53:34Lewis Howes?

  Thing you're still vulnerable about despite all your success?

• 53:36Tony Robbins?

  Well, I would say health, as strongly as it is, I had a real health scare this last year. I think you know, I shared with you. I had mercury poisoning and mercury mimics dementia. So it makes you lose your memory in the middle of talking, which I've, you know, I do 50 hour events with 10,000 people. And don't forget a thought and I've had over the last year where I literally don't know where I am or what's going on in the middle of being in the room. Now, no one's seen it or known it because I asked afterwards because I'm pretty good at.

• 54:03Lewis Howes?

  Hiding it.

• 54:03Tony Robbins?

  Hiding it, but I had my mind work so fast, I can put something else in there. But, uh, but that's been really rough. And then the other part, and so you feel vulnerable. It's happened twice when I was speaking today. I felt like, did I say this before? Because I've done a bunch of interviews. And so it popped in my head just for a minute. Did I say that? I'm not sure I said that. And so just for a moment, and I'm not used to, I'm used to only being here with you or with them. I'm not in my head. So I'm down, I went from 123 in mercury on a zero to five scale. It was the highest mercury they measured where they thought I'd be, I should be dead. Um, and it took me a year and I'm down to now nine on a zero to five scale. So it's still there, but I'm almost done. So there's a great vulnerability in that. But I don't, outside the physical, I really don't feel that and I'm not being, um, like I'm indestructible or some bullshit like that.

• 54:47Tony Robbins?

  It's just, everything is a habit. Worrying is a habit. Fear is a habit. Uh, I'm pretty comfortable in who I am. You know, I'm 56 years old, I'll be 57 in a few days. You know, I've lived a lot of life, so I've buried, you know, three fathers and a mother. I've been told I have a tumor in my brain, I'm gonna die. I've had companies that were near the edge financially and was able to turn them around. I've faced enough things right now that it's not I'm so strong or cool or some shit. It's just that I've faced all those things so many times that my threshold of control was much higher than most people's. Cause you know, I made it through the, how do I keep the doors open? I need $50,000 and I don't have 50,000 to 5 million to at one point 120 million I needed

• 55:29Tony Robbins?

  cause two of my partners went broke and I was holding the bag. So now I'm doing 5 billion and I only did that because I made it through those thresholds. So I'm pretty comfortable with those things, but I think there's vulnerability in health and also I love my wife so much, I can't imagine losing her and she's in good health. But those things would feel vulnerable to me.

• 55:47Lewis Howes?

  Sure. Thanks for sharing. I love it. David Hayward said, "Do you really believe deep down that you've made the choice to live the life you're living or did it choose you? And how do you rationalize choice when there is so much we don't get to choose?"

• 56:02Tony Robbins?

  Well, that's a good question. I have chosen very consciously what I want for my life and I continue to choose. I really believe that our Creator has given us choice. And those that, you know, look at their life and say it's not the way they want it and blame God are barking up the wrong tree. You know, the resources are inside of us. That's number one. But I'd say number two, this idea that, you know, rationalizing choice, I don't rationalize choice. I know it's one of the great gifts in my life and I can make it any moment. So can you. The one power we have is the decision to change anything. You know, like your relationship, change it. Change you first or change it. You don't like your body, change it. You don't like your finances, any one of us can change it. We live in a world that's full of answers.

• 56:43Tony Robbins?

  You got a web where you can learn from anybody on the planet now. You got access to them. You know, so I, I don't see it as like rationalizing choice. I think that mindset reveals limitations in the person asking the question and not being derogatory to that person. I'm grateful for the question, but I want you to know if you're listening that, you know...

• 57:03Tony Robbins?

  If I asked all those watching, we all have patterns. And I'm a student of patterns. The way I can make changes in minutes for people that were stuck for years, or athletes I've turned around and developed a great amount of fame around, and you know, the Quincy Joneses of the world, the Pit Bulls, the Serena Williams, the things that I've done with all these people, they rave about are because I know that whatever you focus on, you're gonna feel. So, I'll just give you one example for the person that asks this question, and for anybody listening.

• 57:31Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 57:31Tony Robbins?

  There's, I'll give you three patterns real fast, so you can check yourself out for a moment. So, one pattern is of focus. Do you tend to focus more on what you have or what's missing? I'm asking your listeners right now, and you. What do you tend to focus on? What you have or what's missing?

• 57:46Lewis Howes?

  What I have.

• 57:47Tony Robbins?

  What you have, great. When I asked this in a room, usually about 70% are focused on what's missing. Most achievers are focused on what's missing, so they can go out and achieve more, right?

• 57:56Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 57:56Tony Robbins?

  Nothing wrong with that. But when you stack these patterns together, it's really hard to be happy when you're constantly focused on what's missing. There's a time when it's missing, so you go to work. But if you do it all the time,

• 58:06Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 58:06Tony Robbins?

  You can be achieving a ton, like some of these billionaires, and they're still focusing what's missing, and so they're not happy. Another pattern would be, do you tend to focus on what you can control or what you can't control?

• 58:18Lewis Howes?

  What you can.

• 58:19Tony Robbins?

  Yeah, and I know that's true with you.

• 58:20Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 58:21Tony Robbins?

  The majority of people is what they can't control. Now, if you focus on what's missing all the time and what you can't control, you're gonna be depressed. I don't care if you take Prozac, or Zoloft, or anything else. Your depression is not a Zoloft deficiency. It is the fact that you were doing something in your mind that is producing that depression. And if you constantly focus on what's missing and what you can't control, and look at that, a third one. Do you tend to focus more on things in the past, the present, or the future? I know you do all three, we all do all three, but which one for you would you say you spend more of your time on? Past, present, or future?

• 58:55Lewis Howes?

  Well, my old self would say the past and the future. Now, after going to One World Academy, I'm very present and, present and future.

• 59:04Tony Robbins?

  There's no right or wrong, but the past... You can't do anything about it. So the more you focus there, unless you're learning something from it,

• 59:10Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 59:10Tony Robbins?

  It's pretty much a waste. The present is where the joy is. The future is how you do business, right? So you anticipate. So it's the ability to do this. But if you have somebody whose pattern is, focus on what's missing, focus on what you can't control, focus on the past. You can give them, I've seen it. I've dealt with people like that who are suicidal. I come in, they got every drug, they're taking every antidepressant, and they're still depressed. In fact, I'll ask in audiences all the time, how many do you know somebody who takes antidepressants and is still depressed? Ninety percent of the room will raise their hand.

• 59:37Lewis Howes?

  I know people.

• 59:38Tony Robbins?

  You know people? I'm sure people at home do. Well, why are they still depressed if they're taking antidepressants? Because all the antidepressant does is numb you. But they're still focusing what's missing. They're still focused on what they can't control. They're still focused on past or present that's not the way they want it to be, or making up a future that's scary. Well, you're going to be depressed no matter what unless you take control of those factors. So the answer to this question is, you really, I don't see it as a rationale. I see it as a gift. Choice is a gift. It's always there. You can choose what you focus on, and what you focus on is what you're going to experience. You can focus on things that make you suffer. You can focus on things that make you grateful. And of the two, gratitude is the better approach. It's not some man be panny positive thinking approach. It's intelligent because when you're in a good state, you can solve the problem 10 times better.

• 1:00:22Tony Robbins?

  I used to convince myself that if I'm suffering, if I'm pissed, I'm 10 times smarter, my brain goes faster, and it does. You know what I also found? I'm 10 times smarter when I'm not stressed, and I also enjoy my life.

• 1:00:33Lewis Howes?

  Your body doesn't hurt. Your mind isn't.

• 1:00:34Tony Robbins?

  And everybody else, you're able to reach them because they're not defensive.

• 1:00:37Lewis Howes?

  Two final questions. Heather Podeska says, Tony, is it possible for women to become powerful leaders without making, without making men feel emasculated? And if so, how?

• 1:00:51Tony Robbins?

  Of course it is. I was just with Mary Keltland-Erdo, who's head of JP Morgan. She manages, check this out, people that manage $2.3 trillion with a T. She's the most powerful woman in finance for JP Morgan. And she, everybody loves Mary. Everybody, I mean, everybody. At the conference, JP Morgan's Alternative Investment Conference, and I told you, 400 people there, you've got to have a billion dollar net worth to get in, right? And everybody there raves about Mary. And the reason is because Mary is successful, but she's not, she doesn't treat it as I'm different because I'm a woman. Mary has a belief. She said, you know, all these women are not in my business, and they all tell me it's unfair, and there's a glass ceiling. She goes, no glass ceiling for me. You know why? I don't believe it. She goes, it's a meritocracy.

• 1:01:35Tony Robbins?

  You get what you merit. She grew that business thirty percent, JP Morgan, if you can imagine. She grew thirty percent. Everybody loves Mary. Mary is constantly there. What makes Mary successful is what makes anyone successful, male or female. She's not focused on herself. She's focused on adding more value to other people's lives than anybody else. And that's the only secret in business. Do more for others than anybody else does. I don't care if you're a man or a woman. I don't care if you're gay. I don't care if you're transvestite. I don't care if you're, you know, you're not gay. I don't, I don't care what you are, what, old or young, gender. All that matters in the world we live in today, outside your belief systems, is your ability to add value, at least in the marketplace, right? We're all have intrinsic value. Everyone has intrinsic value. You don't have to do anything to be worthwhile as a human.

• 1:02:19Tony Robbins?

  But if you want to be worthwhile financially, you have to add value. You have to develop skills and abilities and do more for others than anybody else does. And I'm, I can tell you, I've met women, the top CEOs in the world that are women. They have no problems whatsoever. The problem is up here, right? Now, don't get me wrong. Are there people that will judge someone because of their color of skin or their gender or their age? Of course there are. But we've all been through that. Everybody's got something of injustice and who cares? If you hang on injustice, you're there. What you need to do is break through. You'll always break through if you add value. What's your other question?

• 1:02:50Lewis Howes?

  Before I ask the final one, I want to make sure you guys do get the book. This is a game changer. Again, it's a short read for me. It took me four, four hours, which for me is a very fast. So make sure you guys go get the book on shakable.com.

• 1:03:02Tony Robbins?

  I should also mention my co-author, because I haven't had a co-author ever, but it's Peter Maluk. And I want you to know, the reason I picked Peter, he's the only man in history to be picked, you know, for three years in a row as the number one wealth manager in America by Barron's. No one's won three years in a row. Two years in a row by CNBC, it was last two years. And this year again by Fortune. And I'm his partner, so you know now. So when I wrote Money Master the Game, one of the things I did is I don't need all the money, just like I did here. But I also wanted people to know about fees. We talked about that briefly and we talk about in this book. Fees destroy your wealth. And people have no clue, little one percent, two percent fees. So I, I created a site where people could go and they could put in all their accounts and they could see what they're really paying. Well, and then if they wanted to work with someone, and I highly recommend somebody work with someone.

• 1:03:46Tony Robbins?

  You can do it on your own, but it's usually smart to work with someone. But you gotta get somebody who's talented, and you gotta get somebody- Who's sherry, right? Yes, who's legally responsible to support you. Now, here's one of the things you need to know. There's three hundred and ten thousand financial professionals in the United States. Three hundred and ten thousand, they have every name. Financial advisor, wealth manager, wealth advisor. But ninety percent of them are brokers. There's nothing wrong with a broker, but a broker works for the house. And if you hear about all the abuses of these financial companies, it's not because they're mean and wrong. Their goal is to maximize the profits for their shareholders. You're not a shareholder, you're an investor on your own. The only way to get more money for shareholders is charge you more fees. So, everything is about bursting those fees. So, I put this site together, and then I recommended fiduciaries.

• 1:04:28Tony Robbins?

  People that aren't brokers, again, out of three hundred and ten thousand, there's only thirty-one thousand in the whole country. So, I put together the questions to ask, the things to do, and a site, and then I recommended ten of these people. You have seven questions in there to ask. I do, yeah. But when I did my first book, the problem was that a bunch of these people that are fiduciaries, that are legally responsible, like if they tell you buy Apple this morning and they buy it tonight for less money, they have to give you your stock. That's how strong the law is. But I found out afterwards, Peter called me up. Peter's the number one, you know, broker, the number one registered investment advisor in the country. So, I was like, I listened to him, he said, "I wanna come meet you. There's some gray areas of the law that these guys are abusing." And I found out some of the biggest guys in the world that are registered investment advisors, the ten percent,

• 1:05:13Tony Robbins?

  they're not the ten percent, they're called duly registered. It means, one moment they're telling you, "I'm here for you. You're only paying me this little flat fee or this percentage, but I'm not getting any commission. I'm not gonna recommend anything to you but the best, cuz I don't, I'm incentivized. I'm like a dietitian, I'm not getting paid like a butcher to sell you meat. I'm only showing you what to do." And in the middle of the conversation, they switch hats, and they become a broker, and you don't know it, and they sell you a bunch of shit that is horrible, but they do it cuz they make the most money on it. So, I can tell you ten of those. So, Peter taught me that. So, I kicked everybody off the site, and I said, "Peter, what if you and I became partners? You're the number one in the world." But I said, "To do it, I'd want you to do something different." He does something really special. Most billionaires have what's called a home office.

• 1:05:56Tony Robbins?

  Home office is like ten or twelve people, seven or eight people. One focuses on your investment, one focuses on your mortgages, one focuses on the taxes and legal, cuz taxes eat up so much of your money. He built home offices for business, just normal business people have like a million dollars. I convinced him to build a whole division for people as little as fifty thousand dollars. Now, he doesn't make any money on them, right? Cause he gets less than one percent.

• 1:06:18Lewis Howes?

  But you're given back.

• 1:06:18Tony Robbins?

  Eighty-five basis points, less than one percent. But I said, look, you do this, you get back to the community, you're gonna keep building your brand. And we've gone from seventeen billion a year ago to twenty-three billion in assets of Peter. So I'm on his board. I'm, I'm, so you know, I'm also the head of investor psychology. And so if you decide to go and you wanna get him to do a study for you or do a plan for you, he'll do it for free. You just go to getasecondopinion.com. Getasecondopinion.com. He'll do a plan for you and then if you wanna do business with him, it's less than one percent. Um, if you don't, you can do it on your own. But I do want you to know, if you do that, I benefit. I mean, I donate my money, but I benefit from it cause I'm part of that firm, so you know. But, you know, this is a cool way for you to be able to make a comparison to what else is there.

• 1:07:00Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, awesome, okay. Uh, before the final question, I wanna acknowledge you, like I always do, Tony, for when I was sixteen, I went to one of your events in St. Louis, Missouri.

• 1:07:10Tony Robbins?

  Wow, only time I did it in St. Louis, Missouri.

• 1:07:12Lewis Howes?

  It was a, was it? Yeah. It was like a success, uh, talk.

• 1:07:16Tony Robbins?

  All day.

• 1:07:17Lewis Howes?

  All day with different speakers.

• 1:07:18Tony Robbins?

  Yeah, the coach of the St. Louis Rams was there, Trump was there.

• 1:07:21Lewis Howes?

  I met Dick Vermeil there, he had a simple ring. Trump was there, I actually left right before Trump spoke, actually. Cause I had to get back to class or something, I was sixteen. And I was about halfway down the floor, there must've been fifteen thousand people there, it was huge, it was packed. It was the first time I was really, I'd ever seen you, the first time I was ever really aware of your stuff. I'd heard of your stuff before, but I, first time I experienced the, the presence.

• 1:07:41Tony Robbins?

  Yes.

• 1:07:42Lewis Howes?

  And at one point you walked down the stage and through the aisles and I was sitting in, right next to the aisle. And for whatever reason, you came up and you stood right next to me. You didn't look at me, I don't remember what you said, but I remember the way you made me feel. And it was one of the most profound moments of my sixteen years of life.

• 1:08:00Tony Robbins?

  Wow.

• 1:08:01Lewis Howes?

  And it, it set me up for doing what I'm doing today. I didn't know I'd be doing what I'm doing, impacting millions of people.

• 1:08:06Tony Robbins?

  Yes.

• 1:08:07Lewis Howes?

  Um, but I wanted to acknowledge you for being an incredible energy source and being in a beautiful state in that moment to show me what's possible for my life.

• 1:08:15Tony Robbins?

  That's very kind of you, that really touches my heart. How old are you now, thirty-one?

• 1:08:17Lewis Howes?

  Thirty-three.

• 1:08:18Tony Robbins?

  Thirty-three, sixteen to thirty-three.

• 1:08:20Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:08:20Tony Robbins?

  That's pretty cool.

• 1:08:21Lewis Howes?

  The final question, I asked you this last time, it's called the three truths. And I'm curious to see if this is different now than last year. It's if it's the last day for you, you know, many, many years from now, it's the last day for you. And for whatever reason, your books, your videos, your audios, they're all erased for whatever reason. And you have a pen and a piece of paper and you get to write down your three truths to everything you know about life, love, business, whatever it may be, the three things that you would leave to the world of your biggest lessons. What would those three truths for you be?

• 1:08:53Tony Robbins?

  Gosh, there's so many. Pick three, but I'll just pick three randomly that are important. There's more than this. I would say, you know, that the secret to life is to get outside yourself and find a way to add value to others. There's nothing that's more fulfilling than doing something beyond yourself. I think one of the things that makes me proud to be a human being is human beings will do more for others that they care about than they'll ever do for themselves. And when you tap into that, you have more energy than anybody else, you have more joy, you have more excitement, because as I always say, life supports whatever supports life, motive matters. And there's nothing wrong with supporting yourself. I support myself. Everyone supports themselves. But when you're trying to support your family, you get different insights, your community, the world.

• 1:09:32Tony Robbins?

  So I think the idea of being obsessed with learning, growing and adding value to me is the most important thing in life, because you know, the only way we're happy is by making progress. You know, we grow and we feel alive. We give and we feel 10 times more alive. But you gotta grow to have something to give. So that would be one. Two for me is, I'd say that if you are, if you're gonna be alive and you're not enjoying yourself, you've wasted your life. And it's like every day, the gift is find something to appreciate, something to enjoy, something to love, something to give thanks for, because that sense of aliveness comes from that gratitude, comes from that peace. And then I'd say third, and simplistic as it sounds, love is everything.

• 1:10:13Tony Robbins?

  I mean, I'd trade the love that I have with my wife, my children, my dear friends, my coworkers, my audiences. I'd trade that for all the money in the world. I mean, no amount of money can match that process. But I'm appreciative of having the money because it allows me to have portable power. I can You know, I take care of, right now, I provide 250,000 people a day with fresh water in India because what kills children is waterborne disease and it's so easy to solve. And I'm going to get that 250,000 to a million people a day shortly. I'm on target for it. You know, we're feeding 100 million people a year. I'm going to do that for 10 years, my 10-year plan. And then I have a, I'll have 100 million annuity that keeps on doing, feeding 100 million meals every year. I provided 100 people last year with becoming medical doctors because there's a giant shortage coming.

• 1:10:57Tony Robbins?

  And I also wanted African-Americans who just didn't have the opportunity to have that opportunity. We live in a world that isn't always just, and so I did that. The internet is worthless if you can't read and write. So, you know, I partnered with Elon Musk and with Peter Diamandis and the X Prize. And we did an education X Prize that we've had unbelievable progress on where one out of seven kids in this country, or seven people in the world, can't read or write. They're illiterate. And 250 million children are illiterate, quarter of a billion. The internet's worthless when you can't read or write. So, there aren't enough teachers, there never will be. Our demographics don't serve it or sort it. So, we've got all these firms competing for this $15 million prize we put up,

• 1:11:40Tony Robbins?

  which then means on an iPad, they can teach themselves to read and write and do basic arithmetic within 18 months from nothing. And it's going to be open source, so the winner gets 15 million and everyone in the world will have access to it, you know? So, those types of things, you know, they're what make you feel alive. You know, you're, they're all expressions of love. I always tell people, other than love, my labor is the thing, is the greatest gift I can give someone because it's an expression of my love. And so, I think that that third point is love is everything. Make sure every single day you strive to be a blessing in the lives of the people you meet. That's my daily prayer. Lord, let me be a blessing today, right before I walk out on stage. Lord, guide me to be a blessing in the lives of the people I meet. And most of the time, I seem to pull that off.

• 1:12:23Lewis Howes?

  You're doing a good job.

• 1:12:24Tony Robbins?

  I've spent a long time, a lot of years doing it, and hopefully there'll be a lot of years ahead of it, too.

• 1:12:28Lewis Howes?

  Sure, well, Tony, make sure you guys go get the book. Tony, thank you for being the incredible, loving leader that you are.

• 1:12:34Tony Robbins?

  Thanks a lot.

• 1:12:34Lewis Howes?

  Thank you.

• 1:12:35Tony Robbins?

  Congratulations, love you, though.

• 1:12:38Lewis Howes?

  And there you have it, guys. Oh, my goodness, I think we did it again. Third time back, even more powerful every time we do this. I would love your support in getting this message out there. Make sure to pick up a copy of Unshakable. I read this book and I loved it. And I'm constantly trying to learn about how to maximize my finances. And this just gave me so much more clarity and peace of mind. He breaks it down in such a simple way. I'm telling you, guys, go order this right now. LewisHowes.com/451 for all the show notes. Go pick up a copy. Check out all the other stuff we talk about. You can watch the full video interview over on YouTube or at the show notes. And please, please, please, share this with your friends.

• 1:13:21Lewis Howes?

  Email them this episode, LewisHowes.com/451. Put it on Twitter, Facebook, tag me and Tony on Instagram. Guys, the world needs to hear this. I'm asking for your support to get the message out there. It's such a profound and powerful interview. And I want to make sure everyone hears it. So please share it out. And if you have not left us a review yet, please leave a review on your thoughts on this episode over on iTunes.com/Greatness. Leave us a review. That helps us increase our rankings and share our message to the world over on iTunes as well. So all that would be a big support for us and the show here at the School of Greatness. Our mission is to bring you the brightest minds, ideas, and information to help you unlock

• 1:14:06Lewis Howes?

  your ultimate human potential. And we can't do that without your support. So it means the world to me. Guys, what a powerful interview. And this next episode coming up, we've got Mel Robbins. I am so excited for you to meet Mel Robbins. If you don't know who she is, she's a CNN analyst and one of the biggest speakers in the world, guys. She is unbelievable and I'm super pumped to introduce you to her if you don't know who she is yet. Make sure to share this out, leave a review, get Tony's new book, tag us on social media. I love you, guys, for all that you are and all that you continue to do to step up your lives and make this world a better place. You know what time it is. It's time to go out there and do something.