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0:00 Lewis Howes? Episode number 418 on the power of a spiritual vision with Krishna G.
0:09 Lewis Howes? Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.
0:34 Lewis Howes? Welcome everyone to the School of Greatness Podcast. Most of you know that I spent a couple of weeks in India recently, where I was doing a meditation retreat. And at this meditation retreat, I learned so much more about myself, about my thoughts, about my body, about my breath, about my ideas, about my mindset. And I felt like I was able to dive deeper into the meaning of everything, and the meaning of why I'm here and why we're all here,
1:08 Lewis Howes? how this all happened, what the purpose of this is. You know, my entire childhood, I constantly was thinking the question of, why am I here and what is the purpose? What is the purpose, especially if I feel all this frustration and anger and disappointment and lack of belonging and I felt insecure? Why am I here? I had these questions over and over again. And I never understood the answer. I never, I never knew what the answers were. So I just led to more frustration and more disappointment and anger and lashing out and, you know, just doing all the troublesome things that I did as a young boy growing up and as a young teenager.
1:52 Lewis Howes? You know, I've been on a journey seeking answers my entire life. You know, one of the reasons I do this podcast is to seek the truth from people who've been there and done that before, the truth that works for them. And to see if that truth resonates with me, with where I'm at in my life. And sometimes, certain truths or wisdom that I've had in different parts of my life or different times, may not work or be as relevant in other times. And so I think I'm constantly looking for answers in the truth to deepen my spiritual practice, to heighten my sense of awareness, to let go of the things that don't support
2:36 Lewis Howes? or serve me, and continue to develop myself as a human being to be the best that I can possibly be in all areas of my life. That's what the School of Greatness is for, becoming the best version of yourself in every area of your life. And I met with Pritha G, who we had on the podcast a while ago, and she invited me out. She's one of the founders of One World Academy. She invited me to One World Academy in India. And Krishna G, her husband, who is one of the founders, they're both the founders, but this is really his vision and his baby brought to life. They both founded it together. There were some profound things that I learned, and I want to share with you throughout this
3:19 Lewis Howes? interview with Krishna G, what I learned. He turns the tables around on me at some point in this interview and kind of asks me the biggest lessons that I've learned and the most profound things. So if you're curious about hearing what happened, this was at the very end, I think the last couple of days of my experience in India for a couple of weeks. So you're going to hear what I was experiencing in the moment. We recorded this in their studio. So for those that aren't aware of what has happened or what I did, make sure to go back to the previous interview. We'll have it linked up in the show notes at lewishouse.com/418. You can learn more there. But this is me during the meditation retreat, what I was learning and experiencing and
4:04 Lewis Howes? what I was thinking in that moment. So Krishna G, in 2009, he, with his wife Pritha G, started One World Academy. And this academy is a wisdom school. Or enlightenment. It is based in a new tradition where the focus is on knowing oneself. And discovering that we are connected to all that exists, everything that exists. Now, Christian G and Priti G are enlightened world teachers whose vision is to free individuals of all forms of unhappiness. And their teachings challenge every justification for living in sorrow and inner isolation.
4:45 Lewis Howes? So if you feel any type of pain, any type of suffering, any type of anguish, then make sure you listen very closely to this entire interview. Because the things that I learned about how to rid suffering from myself were so profound. And yet so simple when I grasped the concept. And some of the things we talk about are the importance of looking for answers inside ourselves. Instead of outside ourselves constantly, which kind of contradicts me constantly questioning people and asking questions all the time, but I'm just a curious guy. I'm always going to ask that. But really, it was interesting when I asked Christian G who his greatest teacher was. His answer was quite profound for me.
5:30 Lewis Howes? And I think the answer will resonate with all of you if you take a moment to listen. We talk about the one path to finding true joy. If you want to be joyful in your life, if you want to experience this bliss, this joy, then you have to follow this simple path. Also, why having a spiritual vision is essential to life. Guys, after I learned more and more about this, I realized, wow, that's why I suffered so much. And wow, that's why I was so angry when I was a child. The importance of a spiritual vision and what happens if we don't have one. Also, we talk about why many people struggle to live in a positive state of mind. And how to shift out of that.
6:11 Lewis Howes? And then also how to end your suffering after becoming aware of it. Ladies and gentlemen, I am so excited for you guys to connect with this. And you know, Christian G has a softer tone, so be be aware and listen. Listen in and lean in as you're listening and really pay attention and I hope you guys get a lot out of this. Make sure to share it with your friends, lewishouse.com/418. Tweet me, send me a message on Instagram as you're listening to this, at Lewis Howes. And let me know the biggest thing that's opening up for you during this conversation. I'd love to connect with you as you're listening. This is the power of creating a spiritual vision with the meditation master, the one, the only Krishna G.
6:54 Lewis Howes? Welcome everyone back to the School of Greatness Podcast. We are here in India at One World Academy with Krishna G. Thanks so much for having me. Thanks so much for doing the interview. I just finished two weeks here.
7:06 Speaker 02 Yes.
7:06 Lewis Howes? This is my last day. I've even a few hours back to the United States.
7:09 Speaker 02 We will miss you.
7:10 Lewis Howes? Yes, I will miss you guys as well. And what an experience, man. What a great experience. I interviewed your wife, Priti G. This was about a month and a half ago, two months ago, two months ago.
7:21 Speaker 02 Yes.
7:21 Lewis Howes? And really didn't know what to expect coming here. She just said, you need to come. She invited me. I had the recommendation from our good friend Ben Sterner, who introduced us.
7:33 Speaker 02 Yes.
7:34 Lewis Howes? And I said, okay, I trust you guys. I'll come. But I didn't know what to expect. But what I, what I learned and what I created was, was magic. So I want to thank you for bringing me to your home, making me part of your family and for your incredible team for, for having me here. Now, One World Academy is a wisdom school you started in 2009, is that correct?
7:57 Speaker 02 Yes.
7:58 Lewis Howes? And why did you start this? Before we, we talk about my experience and what I've learned, I want to know why you started it.
8:05 Speaker 02 We started One World Academy to teach people to live in powerful spiritual states. And you know, we are constantly looking for answers for happiness, for our joy, for our fulfillment in the external.
8:23 Speaker 02 Whereas we actually need to take the journey inwards. All our experiences in life happens within us. Take any emotion for that matter, emotion of hurt, anger, peace, love, jealousy, connection, courage, fear, passion. Where do you experience these emotions? You experience these emotions within you.
8:48 Speaker 02 So, if you want a transformation, if you want a change to happen in your life, the journey you need to make is within you. But we are constantly searching for answers outside of us. So One World Academy was started with that intention, that each and every individual on this planet can be, can be taught to make the journey within them, to find happiness within them, to find fulfillment within them, to find joy within them, to find love, connection, courage, passion within them, so that they can then give back to the world. See, we are constantly searching for love outside of us. We are searching for passion outside of us. We want something to motivate us. We want some, someone else to love us.
9:31 Speaker 02 If you are in a suffering state, if you are in a state of fear, if you are in a state of anger, if you are in a state of disconnect, how will you experience these beautiful experiences? So our understanding is, you need to live in this beautiful states to share. So we are in a constant mode of expecting. We want someone to give so that we can transform. We want someone to change so that we can transform. We want situations to change around our life so that we can feel better. When we are constantly seeing people are changing, probably someone is really loving you, probably the systems outside are certainly becoming better. But we are constantly seeing in the world that we are becoming unhappier. We are not becoming happier beings. That means the answer is within us, it's not outside of us.
10:17 Speaker 02 What is outside of us is to create a better world, a more comfortable world. A world that can be more beautiful, which can be enjoyed and where we can survive as a human species. But to find real joy and to find real happiness and love and connection, you need to move inwards. So with that intention, one will have a better life.
10:36 Lewis Howes? Hmm. Now, who taught you these principles early on? Like, how did you discover these things? Were you suffering a lot as a child and you were seeking this? Or were you always brought up understanding these principles?
10:48 Speaker 02 I was not suffering as a child. My parents had been wonderful to me. They brought me up in a very beautiful way. In fact, so much so that they never even asked what was my marks and my grades or anything like that. So I had wonderful parenting. I'm lucky to be born in a spiritual family. My father is a spiritual master in this country. And got exposed to spirituality from the age of twelve. So have been part of his work and what he has been doing. And somewhere, I think, I would not say somewhere, but I think throughout my life, I've always looked inwards for my happiness.
11:28 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
11:29 Speaker 02 Yes.
11:29 Lewis Howes? How did you understand that? Was that your father or was that your?
11:32 Speaker 02 Definitely my father did not particularly tell me to move inwards, but his teachings have helped. But I have always told myself in those days, from the age of twelve, thirteen onwards, always felt that I should take responsibility if something went wrong. So it was a very simple teaching, but it definitely made me see the truth to some extent. In the external, that I need to get better at this. So I can't keep blaming and blaming and find fault with someone else and go on this path of suffering and creating, making the problem bigger. So I always used to look inward and used to say, okay. Next time, there'll be a lot of change brought to this problem, particular problem.
12:15 Speaker 02 And I definitely would see my shortcomings, where I went wrong, I would. And I would make those corrections.
12:25 Speaker 02 Later on, as I grew, the insights became better and definitely the understanding became much more clearer. That if you want to live a happy life, the answers are the thing you are not outside of.
12:37 Lewis Howes? Hmm. Who would you say is more influential for you growing up, my or dad?
12:42 Speaker 02 Uh, dad.
12:43 Lewis Howes? What was the biggest lesson he taught you?
12:46 Speaker 02 The biggest lesson he taught me was uh, he was life is here to serve others.
12:51 Lewis Howes? Life is here to serve others.
12:53 Speaker 02 Others, and he said uh, you will find tremendous fulfillment and spiritual work. Because it's really helping people and making them happier. And I think that was a, that was a very powerful seed that he laid within me, so, yeah.
13:09 Lewis Howes? What would you say is your superpower?
13:12 Speaker 02 To live in a fantastic state most of the time.
13:14 Lewis Howes? That's your superpower, to live in a fantastic state?
13:16 Speaker 02 Yeah.
13:17 Lewis Howes? Why do you think so many people struggle in doing that when it seems like it's so simple?
13:22 Speaker 02 Yes.
13:23 Lewis Howes? You know, it's so simple for you, it's so simple for your staff and team. Why do so many people suffer or struggle in just feeling inner joy, inner peace, inner acceptance?
13:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, we suffer for many reasons. Uh, one reason could be we are constantly, as I said earlier, looking for answers outside of us. We want to blame someone else for our happiness, for our sadness, uh, for all the problems we have in life.
13:51 Lewis Howes? They don't do something for you or they do something against you?
13:54 Speaker 02 Against you.
13:55 Lewis Howes? Then you put the blame on someone else?
13:56 Speaker 02 Yes, and then we are also searching for our joy in someone else, through someone else constantly.
14:03 Lewis Howes? More material things, right?
14:04 Speaker 02 More material things, um, that's definitely one reason. Uh, but I think there is only one path to joy, one path to joy. And to find happiness, and that path is to look at the truth. Not looking at the truth externally, that oh, he is bad, therefore I need to be careful and strategize my way of speaking or be manipulated. Or the system is bad, so I need to understand how to work around the system. Though, that's not the truth we are talking about, we are talking about the truth that's about you. So you need to see what is causing you to suffer. Why are you suffering?
14:46 Speaker 02 And once you can see the truth, then you have freedom from it.
14:51 Lewis Howes? What's the truth?
14:52 Speaker 02 And that truth is all suffering arises from obsessive self-centered thinking.
14:58 Speaker 02 So. Inner suffering. Inner suffering. So you are in a job, you get fired. That's the problem. The problem is you got fired and you need to find a new job. But we suffer. Why do we suffer? The first thing is I said, I got fired. Who is this guy to fire me? I committed, I did so much of hard work. I was a fantastic guy. I had just done that. I was a great team player, but I still got fired. Well, now, I have a lifestyle. How am I to live the same lifestyle if I don't find a job? What am I going to go and tell my wife? What am I going to go tell my parents? What am I going to go tell my kids? So you have moved away from the problem of finding another job to yourself. Hmm.
15:38 Speaker 02 And that's where suffering comes from. So I'll give an interesting example. Uh, there was this participant from China and he was here. And after he went back, he was diagnosed with cancer, level three or something. And whole family are London Academy students. So he probably was the most happiest cancer patient because during this cancer, he could see a suffering arose. All that he was doing was he was thinking about himself. What will happen to my kids when I die? What's going to happen to this wealth? Why did this happen to me? Why did this happen to me? I worked so hard. I've been such a good man. I've been such a good person to everyone. Why this to me? Why did God punish?
16:22 Speaker 02 I have got, I didn't do anything good for people. I've been so much family oriented. I have not really contributed. I thought I will contribute at this particular age, but I can't do that now. So once he brought awareness to that truth, where he's only thinking about himself and actually moved away from treating his cancer.
16:42 Speaker 02 He became free of his suffering. And believe it or not, as you become free of your suffering, your health improves. As your inner state becomes better, your health actually improves. And definitely the family worked together to find a solution for this external problem with this cancer. And yes, they found the solution and he's cured. But he said I could handle my suffering very, very easily because it was all about me.
17:06 Lewis Howes? Right, right.
17:07 Speaker 02 So, so that's where the answer is, you need to see the truth.
17:11 Lewis Howes? So, okay, if I see the truth, I'm suffering, I'm upset, I'm agonizing over.
17:15 Speaker 02 The first step is you should recognize that you're suffering. We have met many people who don't even want to accept that they're suffering.
17:22 Lewis Howes? Right, so.
17:23 Speaker 02 So you need to bring awareness and observation to the fact that you are suffering.
17:27 Lewis Howes? Okay, and then, but how do you end it?
17:31 Speaker 02 You end it by looking at the truth. The beauty is when you look at the truth, the freedom is automatic.
17:37 Lewis Howes? Really?
17:37 Speaker 02 Yes.
17:38 Lewis Howes? So you don't, nothing else needs to happen?
17:39 Speaker 02 Nothing else needs to happen.
17:40 Lewis Howes? You look at the truth, you see it.
17:42 Speaker 02 Yes.
17:42 Lewis Howes? And realize that it's about me, I'm suffering because of my obsessive self-centered thinking.
17:47 Speaker 02 Yes.
17:47 Lewis Howes? Once I recognize that, then the suffering goes away?
17:49 Speaker 02 Yes, because you clearly see that you have moved away from love, you have moved away from connection, you have moved away from courage, you have moved away from vision, you are passionate to yourself. So you have moved away from also addressing your problems to yourself. Then you are in the space of really answering the question, what is important to me? Am I going to keep suffering like this and obsessing about myself? Or if I have a problem with my children or with my wife, am I going to move to a beautiful state and address that problem? Because I need to address it because if I go on this path of suffering, everything around me is going to get destroyed. So that's.
18:27 Lewis Howes? I feel like a lot of people inflict suffering on themselves, whether through their beliefs, through religion, or through family stuff, they just, they feel like they have to suffer to, I don't know, live better in the afterlife, or do something, or give back in some way. What is that doing for us? Why do we focus so much on suffering when it only hurts us more and more and takes us away from joy?
18:52 Speaker 02 First answer is, we don't know how to come out of suffering. This is the first one. The second answer is, we really do not have a stronger, deeper purpose for our relationships. We need to find those answers. And the third one is, we need to look at the truth. See, I was in London giving a talk when I started in two thousand nine, two thousand ten. And there was this woman who stood up and asked me this question. Krishnaji, I understand these two states and everything, but throughout my life, I have been taught that if you suffer, from there, your passion to uh get more in life or achieve more in life is easier. Because now you have learned a lot, you have suffered.
19:34 Lewis Howes? Now you're driven or something.
19:35 Speaker 02 Now you're driven. So I just told her that you just do not have, you have just not learned the art of creating success from a beautiful state, that's it.
19:44 Lewis Howes? From inspiration as opposed to proving people wrong or
19:48 Speaker 02 Yes.
19:49 Lewis Howes? Trying to make yourself look good.
19:50 Speaker 02 Yes, absolutely.
19:52 Lewis Howes? You know, my entire childhood, I, I came from a place of proving people wrong, of creating to show that I was worthy enough
20:00 Speaker 02 Okay.
20:01 Lewis Howes? Of acceptance or love. And it drove me to create, I mean, I created everything I wanted.
20:07 Speaker 02 Okay.
20:08 Lewis Howes? But every time I would achieve the dream or the goal or the vision, it was like there was more suffering. Afterwards, there was like this, I was never complete, it was never whole, it was always like, what's next? This wasn't good enough. Wasn't the way I wanted it to be.
20:21 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:21 Lewis Howes? And I continued to be driven by this, I guess, negative state as opposed to beautiful state. And it's um, it's tricky because it's, you feel like, well, I'm driving, I'm driven by this thing, this emotion, and it's getting me what I want. I'm achieving what I want, it's happening, things are happening, I'm making money, I have access to things, but at what cost? And a few years ago, when I started on this journey and realized that I can come from inspiration, you can come from a place of passion, a place of I'm already complete, and I'm gonna create this to make an impact in the world.
20:55 Speaker 02 Yes.
20:56 Lewis Howes? It was so much more enjoyable.
20:57 Speaker 02 Yes.
20:58 Lewis Howes? And the pro- the process was easier, it wasn't hard.
21:01 Speaker 02 Okay.
21:02 Lewis Howes? It wasn't this stressful and anxiousness, if something didn't work out, I could, I could move through it with more peace. And I'm still able to create, and I feel like it's even more powerful.
21:12 Speaker 02 Yes, much more powerful.
21:14 Lewis Howes? There's like this spiritual vision, it's like fueling, right?
21:17 Speaker 02 Yes.
21:18 Lewis Howes? So what's the importance of a spiritual vision? And if we don't have one, what's gonna happen to us?
21:24 Speaker 02 Well, if we don't have one, we are going to suffer.
21:27 Lewis Howes? You don't have a spiritual vision?
21:29 Speaker 02 Yes. Because spiritual vision is all about uh living in a beautiful state and acting from that beautiful state. Addressing your problems from a beautiful state. Not from a state of anger, not from a state of fear, insecurity, loneliness or depression. But from a state of courage, passion, connection. So, so one needs to learn to live in this state. That should become the most important thing because as I told earlier, all experiences are happening within you. So.
22:00 Lewis Howes? It's our interpretation, right?
22:03 Speaker 02 One, it's our interpretation. Two, if you're suffering, there's only one interpretation, it's about you.
22:10 Lewis Howes? Right, okay. But there's experiences happening in the external world.
22:13 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:13 Lewis Howes? And we interpret it in a certain way internally.
22:16 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:16 Lewis Howes? Right?
22:17 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:18 Lewis Howes? And it's either suffering experience or not suffering?
22:21 Speaker 02 Yes, and you are right. But when suffering arises, you stop interpreting outer world. You're only thinking about yourself.
22:32 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
22:32 Speaker 02 Okay. But if you're just interpreting outer world without suffering, then you are probably thinking about how do I solve this problem from a strategy point of view or just from a vision perspective. You're looking at, at how do I make this just better? You're not suffering, but you're just seeing it in a practical, pragmatic, pragmatic way. So uh, so yeah, spiritual vision I think is the most important thing. Uh, if you do not learn to live in a beautiful state and learn to relate from that state, you will not be uh enjoying any of your relationships, be it your kids, your wife, your work, your profession and yourself.
23:13 Lewis Howes? So how do we cultivate that on a daily basis besides being aware of we're not suffering, but how do we just stay in that and cultivate it?
23:20 Speaker 02 Uh, there is, there are definitely certain meditations that we offer which you can practice on a daily basis. Uh, those will help cultivate in the beautiful state.
23:29 Lewis Howes? Why is meditation so powerful?
23:32 Speaker 02 Meditation is powerful because meditation becomes powerful when you apply this stuff. See meditation should go along with this stuff.
23:40 Lewis Howes? So not just meditating to meditate and not understand why?
23:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, not understanding.
23:44 Lewis Howes? But understand why you're meditating.
23:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:46 Lewis Howes? Okay.
23:46 Speaker 02 You have to, there has to be a purpose for meditation and that purpose must have the right path. Then you're meditating in the right way. Otherwise meditation by itself has no purpose.
23:58 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
23:58 Speaker 02 It might make you just feel good, but you won't have achieved anything.
24:02 Lewis Howes? Might help for a few hours.
24:03 Speaker 02 A few hours, a few minutes.
24:04 Lewis Howes? Sure. What would you say is your spiritual vision then?
24:07 Speaker 02 My spiritual vision has always been, uh, to live in a beautiful, powerful state and address my, uh, challenges and, uh, my vision in every aspect of my life from that state. That's my spiritual vision.
24:23 Lewis Howes? What would you say is your external vision?
24:26 Speaker 02 My external vision, uh, I have, uh, uh, quite a few visions for my life, for my family, for my businesses and the spiritual work I do. But coming to One World Academy, uh, to really give people, uh, liberative wisdom and powerful direct experiences that can completely transform them as a human being and revolutionize the way they think and the way they live their life and the way they relate with every aspect of their life.
24:57 Lewis Howes? How does this wisdom apply for business? Because you've built a number of successful businesses. You've done very well financially. How do you apply this mindset and this, this way of being in all of your relationships in business? Because there's a lot of entrepreneurs watching.
25:12 Speaker 02 Yes.
25:12 Lewis Howes? And what you're like, well, this is just for your relationships, your family and your intimate relationships, but can this really be helpful for my career, my business?
25:23 Speaker 02 Yes. I have interacted with many business people and one of the strong emotions that they work from is competitiveness. They constantly compete with somebody else.
25:35 Lewis Howes? Competitiveness.
25:35 Speaker 02 Competitiveness, yeah. So I was in a meeting with one guy here in India who's a very big business person. And I was asking him, what's the vision and what's the purpose? And he was telling me like, I want to become better than that guy.
25:48 Lewis Howes? Right.
25:48 Speaker 02 I want to do things better than that person. I want to get those projects. Then I told him, I don't think so that's going to work because that guy is good at what he's doing. So you need to find what you are good at and what you really love doing. Then I think you'll be far more successful. So I think it's very important, number one, to find what the vision is. And number two, not to go about achieving that vision from a place of fear. See, we are constantly, most business people want to achieve from a place of fear. And after achieving, they don't want to lose what they've achieved against fear. So there's definitely no enjoyment in this entire path. So I have done it from a beautiful state.
26:34 Speaker 02 If there's a challenge, because I can differentiate challenge and suffering, I address it. I see that suffering is about me and once I'm out of my suffering, there is immense clarity and power to address the challenge, whatever the challenge might be. Because now you've seen challenge as a challenge, you are not part of that. So then there's tremendous clarity to address those problems. Unfortunately, we make it too much about ourselves, we make it too much about our image. We make it too much about what people are constantly thinking about us. So if you bring awareness and if you start looking at the truth, then you will actually see that seventy percent or eighty percent of the time, you are spending thinking about yourself rather than your business.
27:18 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
27:19 Speaker 02 So.
27:20 Lewis Howes? Do you ever come from that, do you ever get in that space where you're getting competitive or comparing yourself to someone else in business in your industry or do you ever? You do?
27:29 Speaker 02 I would say not much.
27:31 Lewis Howes? Okay.
27:31 Speaker 02 Not much. I'm very, very clear about what I want to do. I'm very clear about how my projects must look. And I'm very, very clear about what is the team I want, what are the kind of people that needs to work with me. And if there's too much competition, I'm okay with letting it go and I know that there'll be a bigger opportunity coming my way next time.
27:53 Lewis Howes? What if something doesn't work out the way you want it to be? You have this vision of like, I want, I want these people to do these things and then it doesn't work out. How do you react?
28:01 Speaker 02 I do get upset.
28:02 Lewis Howes? You do get upset?
28:03 Speaker 02 I do get upset and a little frustrated. Uh, because most of the time, uh, at least here, it's because of the systems. Uh, there's so many things that need to go, go together to make, uh, your project successful. And, um, sometimes systems break down. And, uh, so you know that you did your best and systems break down. Again, if you're going to into suffering, that's like a teaching. So, uh, so I see the problem and, uh, for the next project, we make sure that we first correct the systems and then go ahead with that project.
28:37 Lewis Howes? So whenever you recognize you're in a breakdown, uh, what's your process?
28:41 Speaker 02 If I recognize the external problem which is breaking down.
28:45 Lewis Howes? But then you feel like a reaction in some way?
28:47 Speaker 02 I don't react.
28:48 Lewis Howes? You don't react?
28:49 Speaker 02 I don't react.
28:49 Lewis Howes? Never?
28:50 Speaker 02 Never.
28:51 Lewis Howes? But you, you get frustrated?
28:52 Speaker 02 I do get frustrated, yes. But I do frustr- I get frustrated, I do get angry, uh, I, I do get hurt. All these are emotions, uh, that things did not go according to my plan, things did not work out the way it had to go. All that really hurts, but, uh, uh, that's being human, right?
29:10 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
29:11 Speaker 02 But I think, uh.
29:12 Lewis Howes? You're human?
29:13 Speaker 02 Obst-
29:16 Speaker 02 But I think, once you have the spiritual vision, which is the most important thing is to live in a beautiful state and once you live there, there's tremendous intelligence and clarity that comes. Uh, you move there, you move there and.
29:32 Lewis Howes? What answers do you not have yet?
29:35 Speaker 02 What answers do I have not? In which sphere of my life? You're talking spirituality, business?
29:40 Lewis Howes? In what, in spirituality, like is there an answer that you're still, is there a question you're seeking? Cause you've been seeking for a long time, you've got this curriculum, you've got this material, you've got the truth. But what is, what's missing? Is there something that's like inside of you that's like, I don't know the answer? You know the answer to everything.
29:59 Speaker 02 Yes.
30:01 Lewis Howes? Why do you think you're here?
30:04 Speaker 02 I'm here to do this work. I'm here to be a loving husband and a loving father. A loving son. And definitely loving friend to many of my friends. And I'm here to definitely create a difference to the world.
30:25 Lewis Howes? Do you think everyone has that same purpose?
30:27 Speaker 02 I, I, I don't know. I don't know. I would not like to make that into an idea. That everyone has this. I, I think.
30:35 Lewis Howes? How do you, how do you know that's your purpose? Or when did you discover that?
30:38 Speaker 02 I knew, I think, probably from the age of fourteen, fifteen. Yeah. That I'm definitely here for doing something great. And I want to do it. It's not like. I, I'll put it this way. I'll put it that way. It's, it's my decision. It's my right action that I want to do this.
30:59 Lewis Howes? You don't feel forced?
31:00 Speaker 02 No, I don't feel forced. It's not like I had a revelation and, you know, someone came into my dream and told me this is, you know. It's not like that.
31:08 Lewis Howes? Right.
31:08 Speaker 02 It's something that I have discovered and.
31:12 Lewis Howes? It's organic.
31:12 Speaker 02 It's organic. Yeah, yeah. So that's total clarity. It's something that I found within me. It's not something I've given to me.
31:20 Lewis Howes? What about all the people that have religious beliefs?
31:24 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
31:25 Lewis Howes? Cause you grew up religiously, right? Your father is religious, would you say?
31:29 Speaker 02 Yes.
31:30 Lewis Howes? And?
31:31 Speaker 02 My father is not religious. My father's, my father's work is spiritual, but the work is centered around God revelation.
31:39 Lewis Howes? Around God?
31:40 Speaker 02 God revelation.
31:41 Lewis Howes? Realization?
31:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, revelation. So that way it is religious, yeah.
31:44 Lewis Howes? Got you. Okay. And this work is not related around God in any way?
31:50 Speaker 02 Uh, in the sense, I think for us, the topic on God has been addressed over thousands of years.
31:57 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
31:57 Speaker 02 And I think there are many, many people who are talking about that. So, and for us, I think we have found the answers for a beautiful state, for a transcendental state, and the enlightened state, all these powerful states through spirituality. And spirituality is different from religion.
32:18 Lewis Howes? What's your definition of that?
32:20 Speaker 02 Uh, spirituality is moving inwards. You are looking for your happiness, uh, for answers for your suffering within you. Uh, religion is where you're moving outwards. You are suffering, you want to go and pray and you want someone else to take care of your suffering, who is part of that.
32:39 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
32:40 Speaker 02 So spirituality is moving inwards, religion is moving outwards. So, uh, both are fine. There's nothing superior, nothing inferior, but we have chosen this path.
32:50 Lewis Howes? You're not against religion, you're not against people believing in God?
32:54 Speaker 02 We are only against one thing. We are only against suffering states.
32:58 Lewis Howes? So if someone believes in religion or a god or thousands of gods and it brings them relief or brings them a beautiful state, then that's what you want them to focus on?
33:08 Speaker 02 That's what they can focus on.
33:10 Lewis Howes? Right, right. You just don't think that's your truth?
33:14 Speaker 02 I just don't think that it's a very effective way.
33:16 Lewis Howes? To put your attention on a being or a god?
33:20 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
33:21 Lewis Howes? Or god?
33:22 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
33:22 Lewis Howes? To, to give you a beautiful state and why is that not effective?
33:26 Speaker 02 Well, I should ask you that question because if you have done that, have you found peace and happiness?
33:30 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
33:31 Speaker 02 You should have believed in god.
33:34 Lewis Howes? Well, I don't know if some people have or not, but.
33:36 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, so most of them are told me I don't know, so.
33:39 Lewis Howes? Gotcha.
33:39 Speaker 02 Yeah.
33:40 Lewis Howes? When most people come in here and do work with you, is that their belief usually? They, they believe in god and then?
33:46 Speaker 02 Many of them, yes, they believe in god, but we have made it very clear that I personally feel that you can go to god and you can pray for your problems. See, most of us go and pray for our problems. Uh, we want to become financially successful or we want our health to become better or in India people go for my kid must get a good, uh, must get married well, must study well, must go to America for higher education. So I think for miracles, uh, definitely I think that path is an excellent path. But if you want to learn, grow and transform, then I think you should take the spiritual path.
34:25 Lewis Howes? Hmm. What's the thing that people suffer around the most that you've seen in the last ten years doing this work? What's the common theme?
34:33 Speaker 02 Common theme? Interesting question, no one has asked me this.
34:38 Lewis Howes? Well, you've never been on the school of greatness.
34:39 Speaker 02 Yes, and I'm loving it.
34:44 Speaker 02 The common theme will be, I would say, lack of vision, definitely.
34:51 Lewis Howes? What's the difference between his vision and purpose similar or?
34:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, they're similar, but no, when we use the word vision and purpose, we always try to make it very big. And I always tell people, it's not about bigness. It could be purpose, in a relationship with a partner or even with kids. So, so I think we find people don't have that vision.
35:12 Lewis Howes? They don't have vision.
35:13 Speaker 02 Yeah, they don't have vision. So people have kids, but they don't know why they're having kids. People get into a relationship, they don't know why they get into a relationship.
35:19 Lewis Howes? And they suffer. So vision, would you say, is the most important first step? In terms of like an action plan of having something?
35:28 Speaker 02 Absolutely, yes.
35:28 Lewis Howes? Without vision, you're just wandering in the universe, asking, why am I here? What's the point of this?
35:33 Speaker 02 Spiritual vision, I would say, is the first step.
35:35 Lewis Howes? Spiritual vision.
35:36 Speaker 02 That is the main step.
35:38 Lewis Howes? And that's your way of being. So how do I want to be in the world?
35:41 Speaker 02 That should be your second step.
35:42 Lewis Howes? That's the second step. The first step is spiritual vision.
35:46 Speaker 02 Because you need to first learn to become free of your fears, your insecurity, your lack of connection. These are the things that you should become first free of.
35:55 Lewis Howes? Because that holds us back.
35:58 Lewis Howes? And then who do I want to be in the world? Our way of being, right?
36:00 Speaker 02 Yes, absolutely.
36:01 Lewis Howes? I want to be loving, I want to be passionate, I want to be.
36:03 Speaker 02 Yes, I want to do this.
36:07 Lewis Howes? And then, would you say, the external vision afterwards?
36:09 Speaker 02 Yes, absolutely.
36:10 Lewis Howes? Okay.
36:11 Speaker 02 And then goals and strategizing.
36:13 Lewis Howes? Yes.
36:14 Speaker 02 Making sure, whom do you want to be, whom do you want to be a team member?
36:21 Speaker 02 Where do you go find your finances? How do you want to raise your money? Everything, the whole plan works off that.
36:26 Lewis Howes? How would you say if someone says, I have no clue what I want to create in the world, I have no clue. I don't know what I'm passionate about, or I like everything. How do I get my focus on one thing? What would you say is in that?
36:37 Speaker 02 I think they should, they should, as I told you earlier. You know, if you're constantly going to tell people that you should find some vision or vision that's. That's transforming the world, transforming the country, then it's going to be very difficult. All seven point five billion people.
36:56 Lewis Howes? It's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot of pressure.
36:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
36:59 Lewis Howes? It's a lot smaller.
37:00 Speaker 02 Yes, that's smaller. Um, I think, I think that's very important because small changes can actually make big changes.
37:09 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
37:09 Speaker 02 Uh, we don't see that, so I think small changes are very, very important. What's the point of me doing this work if I am not having a vision for my daughter and for my family and for my business? It's really not worth it, so, and at the same time, we cannot say that that's wrong. You are creating the next generation who are going to take care of this world.
37:29 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
37:30 Speaker 02 So that's very important, so, uh, so I think we should, I think all of us together should work on changing this perception.
37:38 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
37:38 Speaker 02 We are somehow constantly telling the world, find this big thing, find this big thing, and all these guys are not able to find it, and they are suffering.
37:45 Lewis Howes? Your cancer to this.
37:46 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, so, so I think first let them do the smaller things, which are also very, very important, again, saying them small is wrong. They are big things. Your partner is a big thing, your child is a big thing, your business is a big thing.
37:58 Lewis Howes? Family, community.
38:00 Speaker 02 Your parents are big. All these are big things, this is what makes you who you are. So first we need to address these things and try to find happiness here.
38:09 Lewis Howes? A lot of your staff.
38:11 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
38:11 Lewis Howes? Lives a particular lifestyle.
38:14 Speaker 02 Yes.
38:15 Lewis Howes? Right, monk lifestyle?
38:16 Speaker 02 Yes.
38:17 Lewis Howes? But you don't, correct?
38:18 Speaker 02 Yes.
38:19 Lewis Howes? Why is that?
38:19 Speaker 02 They made their choice, I made my choice.
38:22 Lewis Howes? Okay. Do you feel that because you're married, you have a child, you have all these other businesses, all those other types of relationships that could be messier? Do you feel like it's harder for you to stay spiritually grounded because you have a lot of? So, moving parts in your life?
38:42 Speaker 02 Uh, no, it's very easy.
38:43 Lewis Howes? It's very easy?
38:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:45 Lewis Howes? Why is that?
38:46 Speaker 02 Because spirituality is all about looking inverse and finding your beautiful state. I'm not running, I'm not running to some ten pilgrimage centers to find my happiness. I've been very busy traveling and doing stuff, attending programs here, attending programs there, and doing, going, meeting this person, that person, I'm not doing that. So I have a lot of time to spend with my family and with myself.
39:11 Lewis Howes? What do you feel like holds you back right now? Is there anything that's missing for you or that?
39:16 Speaker 02 Personally?
39:17 Lewis Howes? Personally, or that keeps you from being the person or achieving the thing you want right now?
39:22 Speaker 02 Uh, on the spiritual side, really nothing. On the business side, I think I definitely, uh, I definitely have to,
39:35 Speaker 02 you know, get to know a lot more of what's happening in the world. I'm just so stuck in this work right now.
39:39 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
39:40 Speaker 02 So, uh, so I'm losing out a little bit there. Uh, so I need, I just need to, I think, work a lot more to get that going. Uh, I would say, uh, that's not disturbing me, but I know that that's an area where I need to somehow find time and
39:57 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
39:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, pay more attention there so that I can keep up speed when it's changing so much.
40:02 Lewis Howes? Um, yeah. What would you say is the question you get the most?
40:06 Speaker 02 Uh.
40:08 Lewis Howes? And just to put this in context for your answer, you get, you know, a lot of big business executives come here, CEOs of major companies, Tony Robbins has been here before. You have people from all over the world that come here. And the group that I was in, I think there was like seven, eight different countries and just twenty of us.
40:24 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:25 Lewis Howes? Leaders, we're talking about big leaders here.
40:27 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:28 Lewis Howes? But also people that are just figuring things out, so a wide spectrum.
40:31 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:32 Lewis Howes? It seems like more leaders come than not.
40:34 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:35 Lewis Howes? Um, so what would you say is the biggest question, the most frequent question?
40:41 Speaker 02 Uh, for leaders, the most frequent question has been, uh,
40:47 Speaker 02 They're actually in a space of seeking. Some of them are more in a place of seeking, like what's, why am I here?
40:57 Speaker 02 For some of them, it's been relationships. Relationships at home.
41:03 Speaker 02 Relationship with parents, so. Different things, I would say, each would fall equally in its basket, yeah.
41:10 Lewis Howes? Why relationships are challenging for people?
41:14 Speaker 02 It's so challenging because we're all different.
41:20 Lewis Howes? Yeah, I wonder what you mean.
41:24 Lewis Howes? Why, why it seems like now more than ever marriages are so challenging, or they're so, they're facing
41:31 Lewis Howes? a lot of challenges, you know, fifty percent is divorce rate in the US. I'm not sure what it's like here in India, but why do we, is it because we're so focused on ourself? Or is it because there's so many options and we think we deserve something better? Is it a combination of things?
41:47 Speaker 02 I think all these are true, but they're only true at a certain level. The real truth is there's no spiritual vision.
41:54 Lewis Howes? With the relationship?
41:56 Speaker 02 With the relationship.
41:58 Speaker 02 And again, they're trying to find answers externally. So you think by changing the person, you'll find your happiness.
42:06 Lewis Howes? So how do you know if it's the right fit then?
42:09 Speaker 02 Well, that's something practical, right? You're completely pragmatic about it. If someone is using abusive language or being physically abusive with you, you just need to make a practical decision that this is not working.
42:20 Lewis Howes? But the spiritual vision, most relationships don't have that.
42:23 Speaker 02 Most.
42:24 Lewis Howes? What would you advise if a couple was sitting right in front of you saying, you know, we're struggling right now? And you said, okay, you need to have a spiritual vision, what would you say they need to focus on? How do they, how do they create that together, individually and then together?
42:38 Speaker 02 They can do it individually, they can also do it together. But I think they need to understand and ask this question. What's the foundation for the relationship? So many discover it's money, it's power, it's beauty, it's many other things. And as those fade away or as those are lost, your relationship changes, your vision changes. So you need to see the truth.
43:05 Lewis Howes? What would you say is the most profound, enlightened or transcendental experience you've ever had?
43:16 Speaker 02 What what happens for how long? What was the journey?
43:24 Speaker 02 Nothing's too weird. Yes.
43:29 Speaker 02 I think.
43:32 Speaker 02 The most profound, I would say, the one I had is.
43:36 Speaker 02 Me not existing. So, yeah, so became one with. One with everything around me. The universe. Yeah, everything. You can't want, what does that mean? What does what does it feel like? What is it like? The feeling is you don't exist. You are not dead. Your body or your mind? You both. You are everywhere. Really? Yeah. How long do I last for? I would say.
44:09 Speaker 02 I've had it many times. Really? Yeah, so just wake up in the morning and put on a switch, you're everywhere. But I would say at least seven, eight minutes. That's been relaxing sometimes, yeah. And how do you get into that space? Personally? I get into it when I'm meditating.
44:32 Speaker 02 And what's what do you? That's the secret. Meditation, can you get into it when you're not meditating? Ah, yes, I can. What do you what do you notice? When you're everywhere? I noticed that. We are actually just. A process, this whole universe is a small process. The universe is a process, the universe is a process and you are a small process. You are a small process. What's the point of the process? From the perspective of the from the context of the universe? Sure. I don't know.
45:09 Speaker 02 But from the context of our life.
45:13 Speaker 02 Do something good. Yeah. And to live in a beautiful state. Why do you think that that's our purpose? Do something good? More than to do something good, to to live in a beautiful state, I would say, it's a deeper and much bigger purpose. Why not live in a negative state and break everything down?
45:31 Lewis Howes? What a sad purpose.
45:34 Speaker 02 Um, well, all of us are constantly searching for happiness, peace and love, so. So definitely, we know that we cannot live in these negative states and we want to become free of these negative states.
45:45 Lewis Howes? Right.
45:46 Speaker 02 And I always tell them there are only two states of being, either a suffering state or a no suffering state. So if these are the only state, if these are the only two states we experience our life from, then the most important question in life is, which state do you want to live in? And anyone knows the answers, a beautiful state.
46:08 Lewis Howes? What's your um, point of view of ideals? I know certain people talk about having, you need to have a set of ideals to live by. Do you believe in ideals? What's the purpose of them?
46:19 Speaker 02 Um, I think ideals are good up to a point. So because it definitely gives you direction to be a good person or to do good things. Uh, but you're just doing, you're not being. So ideals never make you be, it only makes you do. And beyond the point, they become a burden because you're something else within and you're trying to be something else outside. And that's when you completely break it down. So you break down and everything breaks down.
46:55 Lewis Howes? So now your ideals break down.
46:56 Speaker 02 Everything breaks down. So you try to be this nice husband, nice husband, then you'll find you're the worst husband.
47:03 Lewis Howes? And then what? Right.
47:05 Speaker 02 And you're questioning, I mean, you're questioning the ideal and then questioning all that you believe in.
47:10 Lewis Howes? It's exhausting and.
47:12 Speaker 02 It's totally exhausting because it is not your truth, it is someone else's truth.
47:15 Lewis Howes? What you think your truth should be, right?
47:17 Speaker 02 Yes, exactly. And you also want the other person to believe in the same truth. So you believe that you ought to be a good husband, then you believe your wife has to be a good wife, then you believe your children have to be good children. Whereas all of us are different human beings, they are all very different.
47:31 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
47:32 Speaker 02 So um, they're okay to up to a point, so, but um,
47:39 Speaker 02 it's not about what you're doing, it's about who you are and that's where the beautiful state comes in.
47:46 Lewis Howes? Who would you say is your greatest teacher?
47:51 Speaker 02 It'll sound a little arrogant.
47:55 Speaker 02 But the truth is, uh, myself. And life helps it.
48:01 Lewis Howes? Is there anyone else who's been a great teacher for you besides yourself?
48:04 Speaker 02 My dad.
48:06 Lewis Howes? What's his name?
48:08 Speaker 02 My dad's name is Shri Bhagwan.
48:10 Lewis Howes? And he runs the center as well, right? A spiritual center here in India?
48:13 Speaker 02 Yes.
48:14 Lewis Howes? It's very popular?
48:15 Speaker 02 Very big.
48:16 Lewis Howes? It's been around for twenty?
48:17 Speaker 02 Thirty years.
48:17 Lewis Howes? Thirty years?
48:18 Speaker 02 Yeah.
48:18 Lewis Howes? There's thousands of people every week, or what is it?
48:21 Speaker 02 Thousands, yeah.
48:21 Lewis Howes? Thousands every week?
48:22 Speaker 02 Every week.
48:23 Lewis Howes? Wow.
48:25 Lewis Howes? And why did you not wanna go take that over, or be part of that?
48:28 Speaker 02 I am, uh, definitely part of it, in the sense, I wa- I'm the one who built it up.
48:35 Lewis Howes? You were there at the beginning, right?
48:37 Speaker 02 I was there.
48:37 Lewis Howes? Your experience? I heard from Krishn Raj that your experience, as you guys were in the school, that he started. You started having these experiences.
48:46 Speaker 02 Yes, yes.
48:47 Lewis Howes? Other kids started having spiritual experiences.
48:50 Speaker 02 I think one of the, one of the biggest reasons, uh, the oneness movement grew is through a very divine process, a spiritual process called the oneness blessing or the oneness tisha, which many people around the world practice. And that phenomenon began to me. I was the first one to transfer that, really, to someone else here. So at the age of twenty. So, so, uh, in that way, I played a very big role on the spiritual side.
49:22 Lewis Howes? Tell me what happened?
49:25 Lewis Howes? Lewis!
49:28 Lewis Howes? What was the experience?
49:31 Lewis Howes? So your experience is what created this foundation for transformation around the world, what I'm hearing?
49:37 Speaker 02 Yes.
49:38 Lewis Howes? Okay, so let's hear it.
49:44 Speaker 02 It was an experience where I had a very uh
49:50 Speaker 02 can call it a divine being with whom I could communicate with in my heart and and slowly the divine being turned into this beautiful golden wall and and then I could actually transfer this to someone else.
50:06 Lewis Howes? What were you transferring?
50:08 Speaker 02 Uh when we when we were transferring it, it was basically told that
50:17 Speaker 02 you can come in touch with your god and you can come in touch with your divine. So so it's more like an intent and so people used to have
50:30 Lewis Howes? An intent, is that what you said?
50:31 Speaker 02 An intent, yeah. So people used to have and see their divinity, the divine they believed in within themselves.
50:40 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
50:41 Speaker 02 And they could communicate, they could talk. So they had this personal god that they could be communion with. So that's the phenomenon that began, yeah.
50:52 Lewis Howes? So it happened first with you?
50:56 Speaker 02 Yes.
50:57 Lewis Howes? And how did that experience, how was it facilitated? Was your dad a part of that experience?
51:01 Speaker 02 Absolutely, yes.
51:02 Lewis Howes? So he facilitated this or was it just organic?
51:05 Speaker 02 Um it was organic, it was organic and it was my dad's decision to uh tell me that I think you should now see if you can transfer this to someone else.
51:15 Lewis Howes? And who was the first person to transfer it to?
51:18 Speaker 02 Uh it was to uh Samudra Shin, who is one of the senior faculty here and the second one was Anandabhir, who is also a senior faculty.
51:28 Lewis Howes? What was their experience like?
51:30 Speaker 02 You should ask them.
51:33 Lewis Howes? Okay, I will later. And so based on that, your dad decided, hey, I wanna start, this is what I wanna be doing?
51:40 Speaker 02 No, his work started much before that. This was a phenomenon that just began, along with what my dad was doing. His work began as courses.
51:53 Speaker 02 See, my, my father here in this country is seen as someone to whom they can pray, their problems can be solved, miracles can happen. And also there are powerful teachings along with that process. So that's how the work began. But then, but then this phenomenon is called the wonder of the blessing or the teacher. This phenomenon just made sure that everything happened much faster. So, so I could transfer it to you, and then you had the power to transfer it to somebody else. And the benefits were, the benefits were health, it was relationships, better relationships and clarity. And many beautiful mystical spiritual experiences.
52:37 Speaker 02 People have powerful experiences.
52:40 Lewis Howes? What's been the greatest miracle or recovery you've seen from anyone you've worked with?
52:51 Speaker 02 In terms of transformation, you're asking?
52:52 Lewis Howes? Transformation.
52:55 Speaker 02 Oh, all of them. All of them, I would not pick anyone particularly.
52:59 Lewis Howes? Did you ever get surprised by any transformations?
53:05 Speaker 02 Surprised? No. Because I know exactly that's what I want, so I don't get surprised.
53:11 Lewis Howes? Is there any question that you wish people would ask you that you don't ask?
53:19 Speaker 02 Uh, I have not thought about it, I have not thought about it. Uh, but from courses perspective, I definitely would love to teach people many wonderful realizations and teachings that have given me freedom.
53:41 Speaker 02 But that needs, that needs for someone to become a seeker. It needs for someone to ask more deeper questions and more important questions. I, I would like people to get to that place so that... I can help them uh with that limited freedom and yeah.
54:03 Lewis Howes? What are three questions everyone should ask?
54:05 Speaker 02 What is it three?
54:06 Lewis Howes? What are three questions everyone should be asking themselves?
54:10 Speaker 02 Um.
54:12 Lewis Howes? No matter what stage of life they're in.
54:14 Speaker 02 Okay, uh I would say definitely uh number one is. Why am I doing what I'm doing? Number two is. How will I find my happiness? And how do I be in this joyful state? And uh number three would be uh I'm how will I find the spiritual vision? For each and every aspect of my life.
54:39 Lewis Howes? Hmm great three questions.
54:41 Speaker 02 Yeah.
54:41 Lewis Howes? You have to do those questions.
54:43 Speaker 02 Sure.
54:44 Lewis Howes? You should do.
54:46 Lewis Howes? What's something you've done that a lot of people don't know about you that you're really proud of?
54:51 Speaker 02 I will say One Wall Academy. Yeah, you're small.
54:55 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
54:56 Speaker 02 You're growing.
54:57 Lewis Howes? Yeah. Yeah. Um, I found a few questions.
55:03 Lewis Howes? Before I ask them, is there any questions you want to ask me?
55:07 Speaker 02 Uh. Yes, definitely. Uh.
55:11 Lewis Howes? You don't have to, obviously.
55:13 Speaker 02 I want to.
55:15 Speaker 02 You're doing amazing work and I love what you're doing. And more than that, I love you as a human being. You're a very wonderful person. Uh. And you have come here, you have learned a lot and there's been definitely growth and transformation. So from your perspective, what do you think your listeners and people in the world should do?
55:39 Speaker 02 To understand our work better and one, understand our work better, no? Two, really the teachings that you have learned.
55:47 Lewis Howes? Hmm. What should they understand?
55:49 Speaker 02 What should they understand and so what what is it that you?
55:52 Lewis Howes? I think I think uh people need to simplify their lives.
55:56 Speaker 02 Okay.
55:56 Lewis Howes? I think we we create too much complexity in our minds.
55:59 Speaker 02 Okay.
55:59 Lewis Howes? The way we think things should look or how things should be. Um and we are constantly in an analytical mindset.
56:07 Speaker 02 Okay.
56:08 Lewis Howes? We're prisoners of this analytical mind where we constantly think and question things over and over.
56:13 Speaker 02 Okay.
56:13 Lewis Howes? And just run in the same place.
56:14 Speaker 02 Mm hmm.
56:15 Lewis Howes? As opposed to. Being calm, peaceful, joyful, and just moving forward. Okay, so why should one be calm? I think people need, because it's freeing. It's freeing, and it's more fun. Whenever I'm around people that are constantly in their head, and they're analytical, questioning everything, or they're, they can't make a decision on something. It looks hard, it looks exhausting to me. It's like they're tight in their body, because they're tight in their mind. So for me, I like to keep things as simple as possible. I think you guys do a great job of breaking things down in simple ways. You're either in a suffering state or a non-suffering state. Which one do you want to be in? Yes. Okay, let's move into a non-suffering state.
57:00 Lewis Howes? Here's how to do it, here's the practices, here's what you can do on a daily basis, here's the routines, and here's the truth that you need to have. Yes. Now, build from a spiritual vision and move forward in your life. Challenges are going to come up, they're going to arise. But if you stay grounded in your spiritual vision, and you always come back to that, you can move through it easier. And I think it comes down to being as simple as that.
57:22 Lewis Howes? But people complicate things so much. I think sometimes, I mean, we may not always have the answers to certain things. You know, I asked you a question the other day, and you gave me an answer, but it's probably a lot more of a process to go through to really understand some of these answers. And so, I think some things we need to be okay with, a certain level of not knowing for sure, everything. Yes. But being okay with it. Absolutely, yes, correct. And living from a place of love, joy, and passion. Because we're here, we must make the most of it. Right, so, I think that's what it is, and I think if people rid themselves of their analytical mind,
58:08 Lewis Howes? that imprisons them in their body, they become, there's just bars around their body they can't get out. It's exhausting. It sucks to be around. It's not fun to be around those individuals, and you want to support them, so, um, I would say, listen to this again. And come to a workshop in the US or wherever on the world or come here to experience it for yourself. Because it's very profound. So that's what I would say.
58:37 Speaker 02 Thank you. And why do you think people make their life complicated?
58:42 Lewis Howes? I don't think they know any other way. I think they were raised probably seeing it complicated. They feel like maybe with their peers, you know, there's a competition, especially in the US, like who's busier? Who's more stressed out? It's like one-upping someone based on your level of stress.
58:58 Speaker 02 Okay.
58:59 Lewis Howes? And I think
59:03 Lewis Howes? they're not present to the fact they don't need to be that way.
59:06 Speaker 02 So you're aware, so what you're saying is they're constantly trying to be somebody else? Or they're trying to be?
59:13 Lewis Howes? Well, they don't feel like they're good enough. They don't feel like they're whole enough already. So they're searching or trying to create something to prove that they're good enough.
59:20 Speaker 02 So how would they know that they're not good enough? Because they're looking at someone and they're judging them.
59:25 Lewis Howes? Yes, or they're getting made fun of, or they're not getting the attention or the love they want, or they're not getting the acknowledgement they want.
59:31 Speaker 02 So the search is outside.
59:33 Lewis Howes? Outside. I think acknowledgement is a big thing. If we're constantly seeking for acknowledgement from the outside, then we're never gonna be happy.
59:43 Speaker 02 By doing nothing?
59:44 Lewis Howes? What's that?
59:45 Speaker 02 By doing nothing?
59:46 Lewis Howes? By doing nothing?
59:47 Speaker 02 Are people seeking acknowledgement by doing nothing?
59:49 Lewis Howes? Oh, no, I'm sure they are. Sure they are.
59:53 Speaker 02 That's an important truth one must see.
59:55 Lewis Howes? What's that?
59:56 Speaker 02 That acknowledgement will come automatically if you're doing something.
59:58 Lewis Howes? Yeah, if you're doing something good. And you've been talking about it in the beginning, like, you know, in this minute, I just finished, for those watching, I just finished a meditation instructor training. And one of the vows that you taught us in the beginning, there's three vows, I'm gonna forget the first two, I don't want to know, but one of them is to not go into the practice of serving others to receive acknowledgement.
1:00:23 Lewis Howes? Because then it's not gonna be a heartfelt connection or interaction. So they're gonna feel a disconnect.
1:00:29 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:00:30 Lewis Howes? And so I think when we come from a place of I wanna make an impact because I wanna get this acknowledgement, because I wanna win the award, because I wanna win, people bowing to me in their own metaphorical way. It's gonna feel exhausting, still focusing on.
1:00:44 Speaker 02 Self, and there's no spiritual vision.
1:00:46 Lewis Howes? Yeah, yeah. So I think it's removing, like it's nice to get acknowledgement.
1:00:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, I like it, you know, I'm sure you like it.
1:00:52 Lewis Howes? Yes. Um, but if that's our focus, there's gonna be suffering.
1:00:57 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:00:57 Lewis Howes? Cause when we don't get it, we're gonna have an expectation that's not met.
1:01:00 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:01:01 Lewis Howes? So.
1:01:03 Speaker 02 And, uh, and also you, and also the truth is you're not working for the sake of the work, but for acknowledgement.
1:01:11 Lewis Howes? For self.
1:01:12 Speaker 02 And then that becomes like a vicious cycle and you suffer more. And then what happens is even if people truly acknowledge, that's not enough.
1:01:20 Lewis Howes? It's never enough, you need more, right?
1:01:22 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:01:25 Lewis Howes? Any other questions for me?
1:01:27 Speaker 02 Um.
1:01:27 Lewis Howes? You don't have to, I guess.
1:01:29 Speaker 02 Why do you think, uh, living in a beautiful state is important? From a perspective of day to day life?
1:01:36 Lewis Howes? For a number of reasons. One, health wise.
1:01:39 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:01:39 Lewis Howes? I'm not living in a beautiful state, I feel it emotionally, internally, I feel like it affects my health.
1:01:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:01:45 Lewis Howes? My physical health, my sleep hurts, my body aches over time, I get exhausted, so that's number one. Is, um, it frees me of that physical pain. Number two is, I think it's important because I believe we're all here to be symbols of inspiration.
1:02:04 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:02:04 Lewis Howes? Were there symbols of inspiration or symbols of something negative?
1:02:09 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:02:10 Lewis Howes? And I look at myself as I wanna be a symbol that anyone that I come in contact with, doesn't matter if I'm in Delhi, in the spice market, walking down the street, the Uber driver who's driving me to the spice market, I was constantly coming from. A place of joy, a place of curiosity, a place of interest, a place of trying to transfer positive positivity to someone else in life. When I was walking down the street, I was interacting with people in a joyful way. And I feel like it's my mission to be a symbol, that symbol. And all of our missions should be to be a symbol of inspiration, to spread joy and positivity. Because the other is a negative state that brings suffering and pain and.
1:02:54 Speaker 02 And you're doing it beautifully.
1:02:56 Lewis Howes? Thank you.
1:02:57 Speaker 02 Do my best. That's what I told you, that Beni, you're a very wonderful person, and that's more important for us.
1:03:03 Lewis Howes? Right. The thing is, you know, I think people also wanna feel like they're very smart and intelligent.
1:03:09 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:03:10 Lewis Howes? And so they're constantly driven to learn more and to feel like they're adequate enough in relationships or in the world. And I remember early on that I never felt like I was smart because I couldn't study well in school. But I feel like I learned a new superpower. I was like, well, as long as I can transfer positivity, then it doesn't matter. I don't need to be smart, you know what I mean? So, um, I think being a good human being and having a palm of energy is more important than how much you know.
1:03:38 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
1:03:39 Lewis Howes? If you're negative with your intelligence.
1:03:41 Speaker 02 Absolutely. Totally agree with you on that.
1:03:43 Lewis Howes? Yeah, yeah. Anything else? Usually not anything, so. On my shelf.
1:03:50 Speaker 02 What was your most impactful experience here?
1:03:54 Lewis Howes? I would say my, my time with Krishnamurti.
1:03:59 Speaker 02 Wonderful.
1:03:59 Lewis Howes? Yeah, I would say I was, uh, I got sick, even something in Delhi, or who knows what happened, but I got sick for three days. And being in another country, you know, being away from my bed, being away from home, familiar people, things like that. I was like, this is the last thing I want right now. You know, I spent all my time to come here. I wanna learn something now, you know what I mean? And now I'm taken away from my experience, from my group, from the lessons. And, you know, Krishnamurti G was there, and he was just so calm and loving and.
1:04:33 Lewis Howes? His attention to detail and his level of commitment to me for a stranger. And his level of love and giving and service was so thoughtful. And it just shows me, it was more of a, you know, I learned so much with the experiences, I learned so much with the meditations. The wisdom, our interaction, you know, the constant learning. But I think it's those simple reminders that it doesn't matter who someone is in the world.
1:05:04 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:05:05 Lewis Howes? That we're all connected and we can all experience someone else's pain or suffering or what they're going through. We can all have the opportunity to relate.
1:05:14 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:05:15 Lewis Howes? And him being there for me, I mean, everyone was there for me, but him being there for me. I feel like made it an easier process to move through. So I could have suffered a lot longer or not, and he was there to support me, so I think that was. That's what's coming up for me right now.
1:05:32 Speaker 02 Wonderful.
1:05:32 Lewis Howes? But in terms of the teaching. You know, the meditation instructor training has been extremely powerful and understanding the principles of modern day science. Um, spiritual meditation practices. And body movement and alignment, and when you put all three together to put yourself through a practice of meditation.
1:05:55 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:05:56 Lewis Howes? The incredible benefits that will support your, your mental health, your emotional health and your physical health and your spiritual health. And by having a meditation practice where we understand why all elements work in unison. Not just doing them to have emotions, but actually understanding.
1:06:15 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:06:16 Lewis Howes? The thinking, the science, the.
1:06:20 Lewis Howes? Biomechanics behind every moment of movement. It's so profound and understanding it for me, so now having that wisdom, having those tools that I can teach other people. For me is, that's the reason why I'm in the com, is to have that understanding. Cause I've been meditating for years, but when I see the benefits, I didn't fully understand it.
1:06:42 Lewis Howes? At a deeper level, so I think that was pretty profound.
1:06:45 Speaker 02 And, and also you attended the field of transformation this year, what is your big takeaway?
1:06:51 Lewis Howes? Well, I missed like three days of that, but the big takeaway was, um. You know, there's different teachings about the wisdom that you guys have. And they put us through different experiences, different exercises. And I think I've been through different workshops where they have teaching and exercises. And that's what creates transformation. For me, that's what's created transformation from being in the past. Because you can't just sit there and be lectured or taught something and have a transformation. You have to understand it, and then you have to go through the experience to move through the suffering, the pain, and the hurts. And I believe that's really the only way, that's the most impactful way to transform.
1:07:31 Lewis Howes? So there's lots of different workshops out there that teach similar stuff, but not at this level. Of understanding, of spiritual understanding, not religious, but spiritual understanding. And I think this is probably the most profound experience. I wish I would have done this part like three or four years ago. I did something else that was, again, similar in terms of teaching and experience.
1:07:53 Speaker 02 Spiritual learning.
1:07:55 Lewis Howes? Which was the most profound thing for me at the time. Which rid me of a lot of my suffering. So I think it would have been even more profound going through like a spiritual understanding of these two. So it's definitely a must-attend.
1:08:08 Speaker 02 Okay, yeah, thank you.
1:08:11 Lewis Howes? Any else? Okay. Um, final few questions. What are you most grateful for recently?
1:08:18 Speaker 02 See, I don't make being grateful into some kind of a practice or an idea, okay? So, once you learn to live in a beautiful state, you're automatically grateful for things. So, so unfortunately today grateful and being gratitude has become some kind of a practice. Because most of the time we're living in a negative state. So, uh, I'm grateful for the thing. There's no, there's nothing particular that I'm grateful for.
1:08:45 Lewis Howes? You're always grateful. It's not even a grateful.
1:08:47 Speaker 02 It is, yeah, it is, I think. Out of many emotions, it's one small emotion, right? It's one important but takes its place. It's not like the emotional state that you have to be in.
1:08:58 Lewis Howes? Mm hmm.
1:08:59 Speaker 02 But, yeah, but unfortunately, it's also becoming too ideal. You must feel grateful, you must feel gratitude, you must feel grateful. Feeling gratitude must be something that, that must become natural. It should not be a practice.
1:09:13 Lewis Howes? It should be a forced thing.
1:09:14 Speaker 02 It should not be a forced thing.
1:09:15 Lewis Howes? It should be an automatic.
1:09:16 Speaker 02 Yeah, because you have this paradox, right? One, in one particular view, you're looking at everyone and blaming everyone for their suffering. And then to the same person, you want to feel grateful. So, you know, it's a paradox.
1:09:30 Lewis Howes? Right.
1:09:31 Speaker 02 So, you need to understand, are you really being grateful or just trying to be grateful so that you can feel nice about it?
1:09:37 Lewis Howes? Right.
1:09:38 Speaker 02 That's why the state is very important.
1:09:40 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
1:09:41 Speaker 02 You need to learn to live in that state.
1:09:43 Lewis Howes? Got it. Um, okay, this is called the three truths.
1:09:47 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:09:47 Lewis Howes? So, if, uh, it's the last day for you many, many years from now.
1:09:51 Speaker 02 Many, many years from now.
1:09:53 Lewis Howes? Many, many years from now is your last day.
1:09:55 Speaker 02 Okay. How will I know it's my last day?
1:09:58 Lewis Howes? You know.
1:09:59 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:09:59 Lewis Howes? You know. It's time.
1:10:01 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:10:02 Lewis Howes? A hundred and something, or however old you are, it's time.
1:10:05 Speaker 02 Okay, so together we'll spend that time.
1:10:08 Lewis Howes? You have, uh, you've written many books, you've had tens of thousands, or however many people have come through this. You've built businesses beyond your wildest dreams, you've done everything you wanted in the family, everything you've had.
1:10:21 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:10:22 Lewis Howes? Has happened according to your plan. And, um, your friends and family are there at the last moment. And they want to know, you know, you've created so much, you have so much wisdom, so much teaching, so much knowledge. If you could boil it down to three simple truths. And this is all we would have to remember you by. This would be your teachings to the world, written on three simple truths. A piece of paper, nothing else we would have. What would you boil it down to?
1:10:52 Speaker 02 Um.
1:10:54 Speaker 02 Living in powerful spiritual states, which are beautiful states, transcendental states, enlightened states. Number two will be to always look at the truth. All suffering arises from obsessive, self-centered thinking. And that if you want to find joy, if you want to find peace, love, passion, courage, you have to look within you. You have to learn to dissolve your suffering and become three of your suffering. The answer is within you and not outside of you. And number three will be to have a spiritual vision for your life. Yeah.
1:11:37 Lewis Howes? This is good.
1:11:38 Speaker 02 This is good. Thank you.
1:11:40 Lewis Howes? Before I ask the final question, I want to acknowledge you for a moment, Kristen Jean, for your incredible vision, for your spiritual vision, for your guidance to so many people, for bringing your vision to life and creating this work for so many people, including myself, to learn, grow, transform, rid ourselves of suffering and pain, unnecessary suffering that we don't need to live in.
1:12:02 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:12:04 Lewis Howes? You are an incredible symbol of inspiration for so many people.
1:12:07 Speaker 02 Thank you.
1:12:08 Lewis Howes? And I acknowledge you for all the work you've done.
1:12:10 Speaker 02 Thank you so much. And a pleasure talking to you and such joy relating to you.
1:12:15 Lewis Howes? Yes. Everyone can go to one more academy dot com, check out more information.
1:12:21 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:12:22 Lewis Howes? There's also workshops around the world. We'll be doing a number of them next year. How many of them?
1:12:27 Speaker 02 At least forty to fifty.
1:12:29 Lewis Howes? Forty to fifty. That'll be on one more academy dot com. There'll be information about workshop in your city.
1:12:34 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:12:34 Lewis Howes? You'll be hosting one in L A soon, so I'll send you guys some information about that. Anything else that people should know about where to go and connect with you or the work?
1:12:45 Speaker 02 I think the website is a good place.
1:12:47 Lewis Howes? Website?
1:12:47 Speaker 02 And Facebook.
1:12:48 Lewis Howes? Facebook, yeah. Slash one more academy.
1:12:50 Speaker 02 One more academy.
1:12:52 Lewis Howes? Final question, then what's your definition of greatness?
1:12:55 Speaker 02 Um, my definition of greatness is the...
1:13:01 Speaker 02 Two things coming together. One is your internal state of being. Are you the person you are that you're talking to others about?
1:13:12 Speaker 02 If you're communicating about love, if you're communicating about being courageous, if you're communicating about being passionate, are you the person who's living in that state? And if you are that person, and if you're living in that state, if you've learned to live in that state, then you're truly great. Because then you are giving people that is true to you. Number two is actually making it happen as a reality for the other. So it's both the internal and the external coming together. That's truly being great. Hmm, Chris and Jean, thank you so much. Thank you.
1:13:49 Lewis Howes? Namaste. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode as much as I enjoyed curating and facilitating it while I was in India and while I was going through my own process and experience. So many things I learned and so many things I'm still learning and processing and experiencing as I develop my daily meditation practice from what I learned at One World Academy. And if you guys are interested in learning more, make sure to check out oneworldacademy.com. You can see more what it's about. But I've been telling a lot of my, my close network, the different influencers in my network to definitely go check it out. Again, they do workshops around the US and around the world at various times as well. Little mini three-day workshops, which are extremely profound as well.
1:14:34 Lewis Howes? But if you're not able to go to India, then make sure to find a city closest to you. So check out oneworldacademy.com to learn more. Again, if you enjoyed this and you feel like others should learn about the power of creating a spiritual vision in your life and how to find true meaning and purpose in your life, then please share this with your friends. LewisHowes.com/418. Guys, it's all about coming from a place of beauty, of joy, of passion.
1:15:04 Lewis Howes? Of inspiration, of meaning and purpose. And it's hard to live a meaningful life if we don't create our own spiritual vision and if we don't live from a beautiful state of being. So, start moving towards a beautiful mind and living in a beautiful mind and having that space where your thoughts are beautiful. And surrender all negative thoughts that may hold you back. Surrender holding on to pain from other people. Forgive, allow yourself to forgive and surrender the suffering inside of you. You are so worth it. You're worth more than pain and suffering. You're worth more than despair.
1:15:49 Lewis Howes? You're worth more than frustration and anger and resentment. I lived in it for many, many years and it's definitely not worth it. You deserve so much more, but it's up to you to create that inner peace and that spiritual vision. So, connect for a moment today with how you want to be in the world. Who you want to be, how you want to show up, the purpose you're going to live in and the thing you want to leave behind for everyone that knows who you are. My name is Lewis Howes. Thank you guys so much for being here. Please share this with your friends. LewisHowes.com/418 and you know what time it is.
1:16:31 Lewis Howes? It's time to go out there and live and do something great.
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