Pod Insights The School of Greatness 4 Steps To Manifest Miracles & Abundance | David Ghiyam About this episode I'm going on tour! Come see The School of Greatness LIVE in person! Get my new book Make Money Easy here! What if the path to financial abundance begins with spiritual transformation rather than business tactics? In this profound conversation, money manifestation expert David Ghiyam reveals the four essential quadrants that unlock miraculous wealth creation. From spiritual teacher making no money to co-founding a billion-dollar brand, David shares how true abundance flows when we shift from seeking validation to serving with certainty. His vulnerable admission about struggling with success's temptations offers a masterclass in sustainable wealth – not just accumulating money, but building the spiritual vessel required to hold abundance without being destroyed by it. Whether you're starting from zero or scaling to millions, this episode illuminates why most people work hard but never break through, and how invoicing the Creator transforms your energy, attracting prosperity beyond your imagination. David Ghiyam’s website to learn more about him and his missionIn this episode you will learn:The four critical quadrants that must be aligned to manifest financial abundanceWhy having certainty is the VIP access card to the realm of miraclesHow seeking validation blocks the flow of wealth and how to break the cycleThe difference between linear and circular vessels and why it matters for sustainable successA powerful technique for releasing resentment by "invoicing the Creator" instead of peopleThe hidden danger of success coming too quickly without spiritual preparationWhy money amplifies your existing problems and how to prepare your vessel to handle wealthThe crucial importance of focus and why dividing your attention sabotages manifestationHow to receive divine inspiration that leads to financial opportunitiesFor more information go to https://www.lewishowes.com/1744For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Danny Morel – greatness.lnk.to/1734SCBig Sean – greatness.lnk.to/1722SCDr. Joe Dispenza – greatness.lnk.to/1702SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX
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0:00 Lewis Howes? Today on the School of Greatness, we are here to be of service to you to help you create true wealth in your life. And if you feel like you've been blocked emotionally, or spiritually, or mentally around creating more financial opportunities in your life, true financial wealth, not only externally, but internally, this is the episode for you. David Guim is back, and he spent over a decade of his life focused on serving spiritually to communities around the world. Then he shifted his mindset and said, how can I serve spiritually, but also financially, create abundance in my life? And he has gone on with his wife, Mary Ruth, to build a billion
0:42 Lewis Howes? dollar brand called Mary Ruth's. And today, David's going to reveal that true wealth creation begins not with business strategies, but with spiritual alignment. And some of you might be thinking, well, I just need more tactics and I need the right strategies to create income and to invest and all these different things. But that's, that's true. You could have those strategies and tactics and all these kind of things, tools that could help you increase the processes in your career or your business. But so often, there are, there are mental, physical, or spiritual limitations that hold us back from believing we are worthy and deserving of creating more
1:26 Lewis Howes? true financial abundance. And in this episode, we're going to talk about why doubt is the greatest blocker to abundance, and how certainty is your VIP access to the miracle zone in financial opportunities. We're also going to talk about how to shift from creating a linear vessel inside of you that constantly needs external validation, to creating a circular vessel that can receive endlessly. We're going to be talking about a few of these different concepts that most of us have maybe never heard about, and really trying to shift the inner perspective to create more external financial success in your life. He's also going to talk about the counterintuitive
2:10 Lewis Howes? reason that receiving too much wealth too quickly without proper preparation can create chaos in your life. And there's a moment in the book of my new book called Make Money Easy, that is out in one week from today. Make Money Easy. Create financial freedom and live a richer life. There's a moment in the book where I talk about this, this relationship with money. And early on in my kind of business journey and, and trying to figure out who I was in my early mid twenties, I had a mentor that would go on walks with me every single week that I would ask questions to about business and marketing and all these different things. And I was struggling after like six months. I wasn't making any money.
2:54 Lewis Howes? I was really struggling trying to figure out my way. And I remember saying to him, man, I'm struggling right now. I could really use some money. And he told me, money comes to you when you're ready for it. And on that walk, I said, well, I'm pretty ready to receive some money. I'm broke. I'm living on my sister's couch. I could really receive some money right now. And that stuck with me. Money comes to you when you're ready for it. And if wealth comes too quickly without proper preparation, it can create chaos in your life. And you see this all the time with pro athletes who go bankrupt two, two years after they, you know, they retire because they weren't ready for it. You hear this from lottery winners who lose all their money and have extreme
3:35 Lewis Howes? depression within a couple of years after winning lottery. You hear this sometimes from children of wealthy parents who were handed down a ton of money without being ready for it. If they weren't prepared for it financially and spiritually, then it might create more chaos in their life. You see this with child stars who have tons of fame and wealth, all these different things. We're going to be talking about this and so much more in today's episode. And if you have not got a copy of the book, which talks about healing the relationship with money in your life so you can break free from the financial blocks that you have, make sure to get your copy of Make Money Easy right now. You can go to the link in the description of this episode, or go to Amazon and
4:20 Lewis Howes? type in Make Money Easy. Get your copy right now. Get a couple of copies for your friends as well. This will give you the tools to unlock that relationship that's blocking you from the abundance in your life. And there are so many. Strategies and tools to support you in your growth. It mean a lot to me. The book is out in one week, but you can preorder it today. I'm also going on tour. If you go to lewishouse.com/tour, I will be on the road in Austin, Texas, New York City, Boston, Nashville, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Diego, starting March 15th through March 25th. Make sure to get your ticket right now. Bring your friends and family. Lewis
5:01 Lewis Howes? Howes.com/tour. I would love to see you because we got some great things happening on that tour that you do not want to miss, my friend. Okay. Thank you again for your support as always for being here on this show, The School of Greatness. Without further ado, let's dive into the episode right now. Welcome back everyone to The School of Greatness. Excited about today's episode with David G. And we are talking about the step-by-step process from growing broke to millionaire, and what that would look like. And also, how to make making money easier in your life? Because I think a lot of people struggle with making money, or they feel like they have to work hard to make money. And I want to get into that in a little bit about, you
5:45 Lewis Howes? know, do you need to work hard all the time? Or is it sometimes in order to make money? What does that look like? But you have, you've been on the show now many times, and people love our conversations around this. In the last episode around money, we talked about the energy around manifesting money. And you, in my mind, are a money manifesting expert. You went from spiritual teacher for many years, making no money, to manifesting an abundance of money, having a billion dollar brand and business with Mary Ruth's Organics. And I wanted to ask you, the first question, if you were broke today, all of the money was gone, and you had to create a step-by-step process from going to broke to millionaire
6:28 Lewis Howes? and beyond, what in practical terms would that look like for you? And would it be hard?
6:38 Speaker 01 Well, first, very flattered by everything you said and thank you for having me back. And yes, I think our connection, our chemistry and every time like I'm with you, like the gates open, there's so much that comes. So I, I just love the time that we have together.
6:55 Speaker 01 If I was broke today, if I had nothing, what would I, what would I do?
7:01 Lewis Howes? Yeah. What's the step by step process?
7:03 Speaker 01 And what is hard work? I think these are two beautiful questions. One, hard work is essential, but let's define what hard work is. A lot of people think, a lot of people are investing their energy in hard work and in the physical world. So it's the amount of hours I spend doing something. It's the amount of effort I exert in doing something. And one of the ways of looking at it is, the capitalist kind of explained, and I've, I've simplified it in four quadrants. There are four things that we need to do and do very well in order to manifest a miracle.
7:39 Lewis Howes? What is that?
7:40 Speaker 01 In order to manifest the miracle of abundance, wealth, love, whatever it is you're looking for. And often, the reason why people are working so hard but not seeing the miracle is they might only be focused on one of those four quadrants and investing all their energy in that one, but ignoring the other three. Or maybe just three out of the four. It's when you hit all four that the gates open. And every time I've given this seminar, I ask everybody in the room, how many people are four out of four?
8:12 Lewis Howes? Wow.
8:12 Speaker 01 Nobody.
8:13 Lewis Howes? Really?
8:13 Speaker 01 Ever, including myself. When you're four out of four, the gates open immediately. When you're not four out of four, you, things take time, they become a struggle, they become harder. And then the universe has to compensate for the quadrant you're not working on. So I'm going to get into those four quadrants in a moment, but what does it mean the universe has to compensate? The universe then has to push us or cause some form of pain and suffering to awaken us in that quadrant.
8:40 Lewis Howes? Okay, so what? We need to feel pain to then bring attention to it to start focusing on how to improve it.
8:45 Speaker 01 Correct, because our attention often only flows to where there's pain. Now, if you can proactively put your attention somewhere, then the universe doesn't need to get involved. Then there is no signal sent to send somebody toxic to you, to make you fall in love with them, to then break your heart, to learn a lesson. Yeah. There is no need for someone to come in to steal from you, or to sue you, or to sabotage your business in some way. There's just no need. There's no need for your family to be destructive all of a sudden, and cause problems and drama. All of these things happen because a signal is being sent to pay attention to something. Right? So, what are the four quadrants?
9:29 Speaker 01 Spiritual work, which I'll define. Mm-hmm. There's physical work. Certainty. And prayer.
9:38 Speaker 01 This is all technology. And when people hear this, I want to make sure you know, I am not a religious person. I do not ascribe to, let's say, a dogma or a specific path. Everything I'm sharing is what the great sages and Kabbalists, who understand the energy of our world, understand light and vessel, have explained how you can build the vessel to hold this energy in light of creation. Some people call it God, some people call it the Creator, that exists and is waiting to come into your life. Because our birthright is to be happy, to be fulfilled, and to have everything. Hmm. This is what we are meant to receive, every soul in this world. And all of creation is actually pushing us towards this point, where we can receive all that.
10:23 Speaker 01 So what is this technology? What is max spiritual work? We talk a lot about this in Kabbalah, and there is a whole step-by-step process to it. But essence, spiritual work is, my soul came to this world with certain spiritual baggage, fears, limitations. And I am meant to transform them, to get to a place of wholeness, which is the vibration of the Creator. Hmm. That means that if I have a fear of abandonment, I'm transforming this. That means if I have anger issues, I'm transforming it. That means that if I'm a judgmental, sarcastic person, or a person who's always seeing the bad, or a person who is feeling that they don't deserve...
11:06 Speaker 01 These are all qualities that don't exist in the Creator. The Creator does not have weakness. The Creator does not have fear. The Creator does not have jealousy. Creator does not have these limitations. And so what are... Why do we have these things if the Creator doesn't? Because... This is a very deep question. I'll try to answer it as simply as I can. We were created with this darkness in order to have the free will to choose to remove it. For example, if I got my five-year-old a puzzle for his birthday, and I said to him, I said, Elliot, can you wait right here? I'm gonna show you something really amazing. And I go and I make this 1,000-piece puzzle for him.
11:48 Speaker 01 And then I bring it to him. I said, hey, I brought you a gift, and I made the puzzle for you. Is he gonna be like, Dad, wow, you know, not only did you buy me a puzzle, but you also made it? Like, I love you so much. This is why you're my dad. Like, no, he's gonna look at it. He's gonna be angry. He's gonna be upset. He's gonna be like, I don't care for this. He's not gonna feel fulfilled. He needs a broken puzzle so that he can make it. Now, I will help him make it. And that feeling, and when he puts that last piece himself, the joy he has that he completed something isn't like no other. There's a difference between if you built a company or you took over your dad's company or your mom's company. There's a whole different level of feelings.
12:31 Speaker 01 So we were, we asked to have this level of darkness so that we could transform it and then finish the creation this way. The Creator didn't need that. We asked for it so that we could have the feeling of wholeness. So that's the first quadrant, spiritual work. And every single person right now, no matter what your spiritual beliefs are, no matter where you are in your life, something has been revealed to you, at least one quality that you can transform, that you need to transform in order to create the miracle. So at every given moment, we are being shown one negative quality, at least. How? There are people who are literally triggering you and bringing stuff out. You may feel like a victim in certain things. You may feel that something is unfair.
13:15 Speaker 01 You may feel bitter. You may feel resentful. These are all feelings and emotions that are indicative of something that we need to transform. Yeah, but he did that to me. Yeah, but they took something from me. Yeah, but they, I gave them two years of my life and they cheated on me. All of this is a test. Since the time of creation that your soul asked for. This person that gave you two years of his life and your life and then left. Your soul asked for this in order to have all these emotions and feelings come up so you can transform them. And there was no other way to do it. There was no other way for you to see what needs to be transformed without this person coming.
13:56 Speaker 01 And so every single person right now is feeling something and going through some kind of fear or emotion or darkness. The Kabbalah explains. And that is highly correlated in this place to be trying to make a miracle.
14:07 Lewis Howes? Hmm, okay.
14:08 Speaker 01 So if someone says, I'm trying to make more money, the first question I'm asking them is, what fear are you feeling right now? And it could be in a totally unrelated part of life, but it is correlated to the miracle.
14:18 Lewis Howes? Really?
14:18 Speaker 01 That's the first quadrant.
14:20 Lewis Howes? What's a, what's a common fear you hear around people who say, I'm trying to make more money or I'm struggling making more money? Or I'm in debt and it's, I don't know what to do to make more money. And you ask them, what's your fear? What's the common response?
14:33 Speaker 01 I would say the most common fear and or quality that comes up for people when they're trying to manifest a miracle is doubt.
14:44 Lewis Howes? They doubt themselves.
14:45 Speaker 01 They doubt themselves. They doubt that they will be happy. They doubt that their current situation is good. They doubt that there is a creator or universal force that is looking out for them. And doubt is a quality that does not exist in the vibration of the creator. So as long as you have doubts, you cannot enter the miracle zone. Like, imagine there's a, there's a gate and there's a guard at the gate. And only people who have certainty can walk in. So they look at you and they see, but you have doubts. You are not allowed to enter the room of miracles. So you could be an amazing person. You could be a sharing person. You could be a kind person, a spiritual person. You could be a person who only does good for people. But if you have doubts, you cannot enter the world of miracles.
15:31 Speaker 01 So doubt is the key card, is the VIP access to miracles.
15:35 Lewis Howes? Okay.
15:36 Speaker 01 So what does it mean to have certainty? It's not certainty that this will work out, or certainty that this person's my soulmate, or certainty that... It's certainty that everything is good. Everything is from the Creator, and I feel whole and complete right now.
15:52 Speaker 01 Despite what I see, feel, and hear, I know it's an illusion and everything is whole. Like we said before, I am wealth, I am love, I am all of these amazing things, and I trust in the light of the Creator.
16:05 Lewis Howes? Mm-hmm.
16:06 Speaker 01 All the variations of what I just said is certainty.
16:08 Lewis Howes? So if someone doesn't feel like they're whole or complete right now, and if they don't trust that they are in the right position in this moment, where they need to be from the Creator, from God, from the Creator, what's gonna happen to them if they don't believe they are whole, and they don't have certainty around that?
16:27 Speaker 01 They enter a different destiny. So imagine you need to travel to San Diego from Los Angeles. You put it in Waze. Waze will give you the fastest path there, also understanding the traffic. Let's say it takes about two hours.
16:45 Speaker 01 This is the path of miracles, the most direct...
16:48 Lewis Howes? That would be a miracle to get to San Diego in two hours.
16:50 Speaker 01 In two hours, okay, so let's give it three.
16:52 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
16:52 Speaker 01 So let's get there in three hours. This would be akin to the path of miracles in our lives, which is the most direct path.
16:59 Lewis Howes? Mm-hmm.
17:00 Speaker 01 If I decide to have doubts, literally, I'm reprogramming the GPS to take a very long route, and to go through a lot of windy streets, and eventually I get to San Diego in nineteen hours. Now, I will get to that destination. So even people who don't operate on the vibration of the Creator, who don't do spiritual work, who always have doubts, or who do negative things in this world, there is another, um, circuit breaker, some backstop that will make sure that even those people transform at some point. But they will transform through pain and suffering, the roundabout way. So a lot of things will happen to eventually break them down. To to become a spiritual being, either in this lifetime or the next.
17:45 Speaker 01 Some people are very stubborn and they still choose not to transform and they still choose to blame everybody else or blame their circumstances. These are the people that it's painful, but unfortunately they will always attract chaos and drama because more is required to break them down. Because if we can't get rid of that cancer, where the doctors are going to try, the spiritual doctors are going to inject more chemo, more radiation, break it down, break it down until the cancer disappears. So it behooves all of us to surrender the negativity as soon as possible, or it will be forcibly taken away from us. Yes, so this is the spiritual quadrant to start with. This is the spiritual quadrant.
18:28 Speaker 01 And the the last thing I'll say is, there's two ways for a person to stop smoking.
18:34 Speaker 01 One, if they want to stop smoking, one is, we we we know, and I'm sure everybody can agree, smoking is not good for your health. Okay, I'm not saying it's bad if a person smokes, but I'm sure even a smoker knows this is probably not the best. No one's thinking smoking is making you live longer. So you can either choose proactively to break it, and it's very hard and it's a very difficult addiction, but there's ways you can proactively push yourself to do it.
19:04 Speaker 01 Or there's a second way, which is lung cancer could come up. And then you go to the doctor and the doctor says, you have lung cancer and I need to stop smoking. So what happened was, you have two different scenarios, lead to the same outcome. One was, you're forcing the universe to push you to change. The other one was proactively change. We are often shown and told mercifully through the people around us and through just inspiration, the things that we need to change. And if you are sensitive to that, you will you will take heed and you will learn and you will grow. Oftentimes, the people closest to us, especially immediate family, the creator is telling them.
19:50 Speaker 01 To tell you or to awakening you what you need to change.
19:53 Lewis Howes? Yes.
19:54 Speaker 01 If we ignore them or we say it's their problem or we say I don't like the way you're telling me, I don't like your tone, or you got trauma, this is your issue. Even if all that's true, you're still missing the fact that the creature is trying to tell you in a very merciful way. Even if the messenger is not a good person, still a messenger.
20:11 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
20:11 Speaker 01 If your ex tells you something really bad about you that you don't agree with, but it feels painful, it means there's truth there. So take maybe 5% of you is like that. If your ex says you're a horrible person or a narcissist, you're like, I'm not a narcissist. But it bothers you and as long as it bothers you, it means there's a piece of you that's in it. So I would say, okay, so maybe there's 5% of me that is and let me explore that. Only so that I can release it, not have to have another relationship show it to me or have another chaotic situation come up.
20:43 Lewis Howes? Yeah, okay.
20:44 Speaker 01 Okay.
20:45 Lewis Howes? So this is a spiritual quadrant, four keys.
20:49 Speaker 01 The second one we already talked about, which is certainty. Certainty is a whole bucket in and of itself because
20:57 Speaker 01 none of the other quadrants become activated without certainty.
20:59 Lewis Howes? Really?
21:01 Speaker 01 Certainty is everything. It is the consciousness that removes all the dark forces, all the negativity. It is the consciousness that creates happiness, is the consciousness that creates joy, is the consciousness that vibrates for infinite universes. Every moment of certainty creates positive forces in this world that go out into this world and fight for you.
21:27 Lewis Howes? And so when someone is in doubt or is not certain about something, then they're blocking their abundance. They're blocking their ability to be creative or meet the right people at the right time or take action or move into awareness, whatever they need to do in order to create the money, opportunities for themselves.
21:44 Speaker 01 They're blocked, yes, they're blocking the ability to create the vessel that can hold all of those things. Now someone's saying right now, well, I know a lot of people who are wealthy, who don't have certainty and they have doubts and anxiety all day long. So what's going on there? These people have a different process. Oftentimes, the creator will give somebody wealth. And that's the beginning of their spiritual process. And it's not that this wealth was something they earned through their spiritual work that they can enjoy. In fact, it's something that was their starting point of their spiritual path. And the fact is, until they do that spiritual work with their wealth, they're not even enjoying it.
22:24 Lewis Howes? Yeah, but broke people will say, hey, I'll just, if someone give me a million dollars right now, I'll enjoy it. I'm broke. That's, it's not enjoyable. You know, I'm suffering, I'm in debt, you know? Someone gave, I've won the lottery, I'd enjoy it.
22:35 Speaker 01 Yes. So tha- that is true. You would, um, you would shift from one form of temporary pain. And then you will be shifting into another form of temporary pain, and that's what will come.
22:47 Lewis Howes? Cause you won't be ready for it.
22:49 Speaker 01 You won't be ready, you won't be ready for it, you won't have the vessel for it. But here's what's interesting. Whoever's listening, you have the free will to do that. You could actually tell the universe, hey, look, I'd rather be, um.
23:00 Lewis Howes? Have money.
23:00 Speaker 01 Rich and miserable.
23:01 Lewis Howes? Yeah, and then poor and miserable.
23:03 Speaker 01 And poor and miserable. And that may shift in that direction.
23:07 Lewis Howes? And you'll stay miserable.
23:08 Speaker 01 And, and the misery, you'll still be lacking the fulfillment. And in fact, they're actually.
23:12 Lewis Howes? It might be more painful.
23:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, cause what happens is now that you have more energy around you, more money.
23:16 Lewis Howes? Everyone's trying to take and people are trying to, negative forces and.
23:21 Speaker 01 Because you have so much more energy around you, i.e. more money, you must have a bigger vessel to hold that. So you actually, um, hundred extra challenges as well. So maybe you're miserable and broke now, but you know, your kids are good, um, your marriage is good. But you're just kind of like miserable because kind of chem- chem- ends meet. In this other scenario, if you are the same exact person, but you have more money. All of a sudden, you'll see not just problems in the business, but problems with the kids and problems in the relationship.
23:51 Lewis Howes? And money amplifies things. So if you have a lot of problems, it will amplify a lot of the problems. It might solve some temporarily, but if you haven't changed the.
24:01 Lewis Howes? The doubt or the uncertainty within you, that's going to amplify into greater uncertainty and doubt with money. And making you kind of step into scarcity, holding it back, you know, frustration, anger, all these different things as well.
24:14 Speaker 01 This is true, and we have to understand why. Because this is such a beautiful true statement, and I think it's very powerful when people hear the why behind it. Because now you understand how we're making this, not just how it is. The reason why money amplifies problems is because money is this infusion of energy that then comes towards you. And this energy wants to be revealed in its full potential, but it sees that your vessel can't hold it. So this energy starts to press upon you. And Kabbalah is called the surrounding light. It's a light that surrounds you and says, hey, I want to be revealed. And in order for me to be revealed, I'm going to put pressure on you to change who you are and expand. And so that is when people feel stress.
25:00 Speaker 01 Stress is when you have energy that's trying to be revealed, but you're not changing fast enough to let it in. You're not overcoming old belief systems, limited belief systems. This thing that your spouse told you that you're being very selfish, or you're not being focused, or you're being very angry, like you're not, you're just not dealing with it. So then, but what are you doing? You're making more money. So the money's coming in saying, I'm energy and your wife. I sent your wife to you two weeks ago to tell you about something you need to change because I'm coming and you haven't made space for me. So now I'm going to become chaos. When energy comes to a vessel that can't hold it, we have chaos.
25:41 Speaker 01 If a waiter came right now and poured a gallon of water, which is, what is a great thing, into my cup, we have chaos.
25:48 Lewis Howes? Yes.
25:49 Speaker 01 I need a bigger cup. I need a bigger vessel to hold all of that. And so it's the same reason why we don't just, I remember when we had to do our trusts and like, what are we going to give our children? When they grow up or when we pass on, like, is there a big danger to passing wealth on to children who haven't worked for it? So, you know, we created a beautiful structure where it basically said, for every dollar they make, maybe they get 50 cents of what we make. But until then, it is not given to them.
26:21 Lewis Howes? Interesting.
26:22 Speaker 01 So. Energetically, because I understand vessels, like if I give my, if one of my kids is twenty five and God forbid I'm no longer here, if I give him an infusion of cash, I destroy him. It's a lightning bolt of energy and he, and we all know this is what happens. There's no child, no kid, no nineteen year old, twenty year old, twenty five year old, thirty year old, where you can hand them one million, five million, ten million, a hundred million, who says, you know what? All right, this is good. I'm not gonna let this affect me in any way whatsoever. I'm gonna be more responsible. No one's thinking this way.
26:53 Lewis Howes? Now I'm gonna go learn financial literacy. Now I'm gonna understand how to use it. Now I understand the tax codes and all these things like, you don't know all that stuff.
27:00 Speaker 01 No, you're gonna buy a house, you're gonna buy a car.
27:01 Lewis Howes? It's gone.
27:03 Speaker 01 You're gonna go spend it on your friends.
27:04 Lewis Howes? It's gone.
27:05 Speaker 01 Spend it on women. And the chaos begins. So you actually bring all this energy in, but nowhere do you change your own vessel.
27:13 Lewis Howes? I guarantee you ninety nine percent of people watching and listening are saying, but I still love to have five million dollars just handed to me.
27:20 Speaker 01 Okay, so you say that out loud, that prayer will draw the energy of five million to you. And by the way, that's a great thing. Every year I say to the creator, I would love to have, here's my new goal, which is much more than I have today. So then that energy comes towards me. The pressure builds. It detoxes my soul's negativity and I begin the process of seeing that. When you ask for five million dollars, you're gonna get five million problems. But that's a good thing. Because these problems are showing you what you need to change. So I'm with you. Like, nobody wants to be broke, nobody wants to be alone, nobody wants to be sad. We should have all these things, but
28:01 Speaker 01 I've learned and I really just wanna share that there is a process that goes from where you're at to where you wanna be. And that process is a very spiritual process. You're just gonna see your limitations.
28:13 Lewis Howes? And you need the certainty to figure it out. But if you don't have certainty, There's a process to creating certainty as well.
28:20 Speaker 01 Correct. We all have certainty when things are okay.
28:22 Lewis Howes? Good. Yeah, feels good now.
28:23 Speaker 01 You see the money in the bank, I have certainty.
28:25 Lewis Howes? Feels good, yeah. It's when it goes wrong, you don't, you have doubt.
28:29 Speaker 01 You realize you never had certainty. It's the money, you borrowed the certainty that the money gave you.
28:34 Lewis Howes? Here's also the thing people watching and listening, I already know they're gonna be saying and thinking is, I don't know which direction to go. I have all these options laid out. I have my mom or my spouse or someone tell my, my friend telling me what I should do around my career, this seventeen passion projects that I want to work on all at the same time, and I don't know which decision to make. How does someone get certainty when there's so many options and people telling him what to do?
29:02 Speaker 01 That's a great question. In my prosperity seminars, I talk about five different concepts of how to manifest prosperity. The first one is the limited beliefs about building your vessel. Another one is simply the power of oneness and focus. One of the things that the negative side does, as you aim to be successful, are successful, is to dilute your focus and work on many things.
29:31 Speaker 01 I have learned that there are only two things I ever want to focus on. One is my brand, as long as I have it, and one is my spiritual platform. These are two things. Now, how many opportunities come to me? Someone comes to me and says, oh, you should invest in Bitcoin or crypto. I said, look, maybe, but I'm not, here's a huge opportunity to invest in something. Here's a board of a company you should be on. Here's a this and here's a that and, and by the way, they're all very lucrative potentially, and some of them are guaranteed wins. In fact, it's the guaranteed wins that are the most dangerous because you're like, well, I'll do that too. And what the negative side does is divide and conquer.
30:15 Speaker 01 Once your attention is divided, everything becomes less of the vibration and state of manifestation. So I have learned to find one, maybe two things, and there are some people who can handle more.
30:28 Lewis Howes? Yes.
30:28 Speaker 01 But for the majority of us, we need one or two things to go very deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, and pull out an agenda to, because someone asked me, if you had to build a vitamin company today, how would you do it?
30:42 Speaker 01 One is I have seen
30:47 Speaker 01 why other people can't do it is because a hundred percent of their attention and focus is not on that. Mm hmm. I said, you want to compete with me? Right. Good luck. Oh, I mean, my, my attention is one hundred percent on this. Obsessed. And I'm obsessed. Now, if you're doing six other things, it's going to be very hard to energetically shift and move and open those gates. So the person who is the most focused wins. So if you're trying to break into a new industry, it's the focus is the only way that's really gonna work, right? Starting point. Now, the question I think your audience is asking, or that you said you think they're asking, is well, how do I know of these ten different options I have, which one to do?
31:30 Speaker 01 And this is true. This is, this is a good question. This is. I have all these passions. I have all these things that excite me. Yeah, and I, I want to do all of them. And I don't know which one's the right one. How would I deal with that? One, I would acknowledge this is not bad. The creator is showing me ten options. So that alone is good, because when you say something is bad, you're, you will never, you will never understand it. When you say this relationship was bad, or the situation is bad, or the fact that I don't know what to do is bad, you already aren't on the vibration to understand what needs to be done. So you have to first say it's good. Just even if you don't mean it, say it over and over again. This is good that I don't know what to do.
32:16 Speaker 01 Now that you said it's good, you've established a connection to the miraculous realm of the light of the creator. Now this light will illuminate what you should do. If I didn't know what I should do, I'd do nothing. And I continue with prayer. I will walk all around Los Angeles like I always do. And I will say, what, show me, show me what is the right thing for my soul? Hmm. And? Here is my spiritual peace offering. I'm also gonna work on my negativity, that spiritual quadrant, because that will then expand my vessel to get the answer. If you don't know what to do, it means you haven't merited the answer. You haven't earned the answer from the universe. Well, how do I earn an answer?
33:00 Speaker 01 You have to build your vessel for the answer. So certainty, spiritual work, and these other two quadrants, which I'm gonna say, which is the third one is prayer, which I just mentioned. Prayer is the third quadrant. Is all building the vessel even to get an answer. These four quadrants can be used to manifest anything, even an answer. You need an answer about something, and you're not getting it? Well, the answer is there, because the answer comes before the question.
33:31 Speaker 01 What came first? God or the vessel? God. So what came first? The light or the vessel? The answer. The answer comes before the question. The knowledge, the wisdom. Correct. The only reason there is a question is because there is an answer before that. If you have a question, it means the answer is already there. Well, why isn't it revealed to me? Because your vessel hasn't been built for it. So let's build it. Is that prayer? The third quadrant is prayer. So if you pray... What's the difference between spirituality and prayer? Spirituality is the concept that I have a soul, and my soul has a purpose, and I'm now going to learn about that purpose
34:15 Speaker 01 in order for my soul to receive everything it is meant to receive. This is the definition of spirituality. It's the way everybody says they're spiritual. I ask you, "Are you religious?" They go, "No, no, we're spiritual." It's like a great... People love saying it because they resonate with this idea. Yeah, I'm a soul, and I'm meant to receive everything, so I'm spiritual. Now...
34:38 Speaker 01 Certainty is a concept, is a vibration, is a quality of the Creator that I must inhabit in order to be on a spiritual path. So, a spiritual person is also a certain person.
34:54 Speaker 01 Prayer. Oh, pray, was it, was it prayer that you said? Yeah, yeah. So prayer, okay, I'm sorry, I thought it was certainty. So prayer, same thing. Prayer is another technology by which I can best transform my vessel. Because every time I pray, my vessel vibrationally changes and everything becomes clear and expands and the energy can come in. What does prayer look like for you? Depends on what I'm asking for. So let's say I don't feel enough certainty. I'll just keep asking for certainty in my own language over and over again. How do you, how do you say it? Creator. Give me certainty? Over and over again. Give me certainty. I am certain. I want certainty. I have certainty in this. I have certainty in my happiness. I have certainty
35:39 Speaker 01 that this thing is good. And I'll actually go through every problem in my life and say, I have certainty that this is good. I have certainty that this is good. And I have certainty that this is good. So I'll start to inject the light force of certainty in everything that is currently not working. Because if I don't proactively do that, subconsciously, your, your, your mind thinks it's a bad thing. So you're blocking the energy. If you do not, if you don't pray, the default is that you think something is bad.
36:08 Speaker 01 That doesn't go your way. That's just how we're built. So you actually have to reprogram your body and mind every morning and point to everything that's not working and say, I have certainty. I have certainty, this is working or this will work or? All of them work. I have certainty that this is good. I have certainty that it will work. It's actually more powerful to say, I have certainty that it is already done. I've already reached the level of manifestation. It's actually a higher vibration. Okay, wow. But I let people kind of comfortably find what works for them. Gotcha. Sometimes just saying one thing may not be appealing to someone and you need some baby steps along the way. How often are you praying on a daily basis? So I have learned that ninety-nine percent of my day needs to be prayer and even now.
36:53 Speaker 01 Ninety-nine percent of your day is prayer? Is prayer. So like even now, we're praying. This is prayer for you? Well, what maybe the audience doesn't see in, is that.
37:03 Speaker 01 Every pause I'm taking, or when you're talking, in my mind, I'm like, creator, please make sure that the next word that comes out is like it is the right word. So I'll be praying for that. Or when I'm drinking the water, I'm saying, I want that the light in this water is what I connect to, not the physicality of the water. Because everything also has light in us. And if your intention, when you drink or eat, is I'm just hungry. So you're feeding, you're feeding.
37:34 Lewis Howes? The pain. Yeah, yeah.
37:35 Speaker 01 Yeah, you're feeding the body consciousness, which is the doubts, the fears and activities. So, Kabbalists have this whole thing about how to eat food, how to chew food. Say if you chew food until it's liquid. Actually, science says the same thing. Chew food until it's liquid. What you're doing, the mastication of food is separating the physical from the spiritual. And so by doing that, you're elevating the negative, coarser part of the food out. And you're elevating the light that's in it. So what will happen is your consciousness will be elevated. But if you just kind of eat and just shove it in your mouth and you're like, I'm hungry. Your intention here is to feed and empower your body consciousness,
38:17 Speaker 01 which is the selfishness, the insecurity, the neediness, the lust of the body, the need for power of the body. So even food is a technology, if used in the right way.
38:28 Lewis Howes? Sure.
38:29 Speaker 01 To elevate your consciousness of certainty.
38:32 Lewis Howes? Okay. So that's prayer. And then the fourth part is physical.
38:36 Speaker 01 Yes. Now, if I did all of this and I just sat on my couch, there's a problem. Because while we spiritually need to earn everything, the body also needs to move. The body needs to earn itself. This is why the gym is important. This is why exercise is important. Exercise is actually very spiritual. Kabbalists say that when you sweat, the sweat is actually the breaking of negativity as well. And that's why almost every time you sweat, you feel good. Because you're cleansing negativity.
39:04 Lewis Howes? I sweat all the time, so I must have a negativity that needs to come out of me.
39:07 Speaker 01 You sweat very low, right? So it's a great feeling. You sweat when you're pushing, when you're proactively pushing yourself.
39:14 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
39:14 Speaker 01 So the body's cleansing itself when it sweats. And that's what sweat is. It's the cleansing of the body consciousness.
39:21 Speaker 01 So, and sleep, by the way, what sleep does spiritually is the soul.
39:28 Speaker 01 Has has is so pure that when it's inundated with all the negativity of this world and the limited consciousness and the fears and not just of you, but everybody around you. The soul needs to recharge and cleanse itself. Science even says our body rejuvenates itself. So why do we need to sleep? Sleep is actually a spiritual process that the body benefits from. The soul leaves at night and the body experiences actually a little bit of death. And that's why it starts to cleanse itself. And you know, a person wakes up in the morning, they have bad breath, they have this, they have that. They need to like, kind of clean themselves. They need to use the restroom. It's because when the soul leaves, it's kind of pushing. The soul leaves, it recharges, comes back and it pushes out of the body like the negativity.
40:12 Speaker 01 So there's a cleansing happening every time we sleep. So why when we sleep well, we are, we have higher consciousness, we have more certainty. We have more happiness, we have more joy. So sleep is also a spiritual process that enhances these four quadrants. So the physical work is so important in terms of the way you eat, the way you sleep, the way you exercise, all for the sake of uniting yourself with the Creator, not to impress someone or because you're insecure, shifted to, I want to be like the Creator. And actually working in your company, in your business, like you actually have to put the time in. Elon Musk didn't just say, I have certainty and you know, did everything.
40:54 Speaker 01 He actually was sitting in his factories, working really hard as well. So when hard work, when a person is just physically working hard, the reason why it's not working is because they're missing the other three quadrants. And that is why it feels like nothing's moving.
41:09 Lewis Howes? So you could work really hard, spend ten tons of time, but not feel like you're getting a lot of results or feel like the results are coming very slowly. Or for others, it becomes more effortless, but for you, it's harder. And maybe you've been doing it for years. It's because you're not focusing on all four quadrants to improve the quality of them. Or maybe you're not doing one of them or two of them or whatever it might be. And so you should be assessing, okay, within these four areas of my life, spiritual certainty, prayer and physical.
41:40 Lewis Howes? Do I have any blocks?
41:41 Speaker 01 And spiritual.
41:42 Lewis Howes? Yeah, spiritual is number one, right? Number two certainty, number three prayer, number four physical. Do I have any blocks? Am I paying attention to this area of my life? Or am I neglecting it? If I'm neglecting it, how can I improve it? All these different things and making it a daily practice to try to improve all four of them.
42:00 Speaker 01 Correct, and the truth is each quadrant, I could probably give ten to twenty classes and seminars on like how to go deeper and what it really means. And and all of this is in my master classes as well, but
42:12 Speaker 01 this is kind of like the headline of it.
42:13 Lewis Howes? Sure.
42:14 Speaker 01 But there's depths of it. And if you go deeper into each one, you will be a manifestation powerhouse.
42:22 Lewis Howes? Wow.
42:22 Speaker 01 Everywhere you go, you can open any gate and then you collapse time as well. You do it much quicker.
42:27 Lewis Howes? What's the air, what's, which key do you struggle with the most in your life right now?
42:33 Lewis Howes? Spiritual certainty, physical or prayer or physical? Which one is blocking you from the next level?
42:42 Speaker 01 I would say in the spiritual category. At this stage, like things have moved so quickly for me lately.
42:56 Speaker 01 So much has come in that it's kind of
43:02 Speaker 01 the negative side is using it as a way to distract me.
43:08 Lewis Howes? What do you mean?
43:09 Speaker 01 I think that, I think that they
43:13 Speaker 01 I got to a place I was so methodical about my spiritual work. And step by step, and how do I break through and then things open? So as long as things go methodically for me, I'm good. And they go slowly and patiently, like I'm very structured.
43:29 Lewis Howes? But now it's abundantly flowing to you.
43:31 Speaker 01 So the creator and creator and the negative side got together and said, okay, how do we really test them? Let's give him so much momentum.
43:37 Lewis Howes? Wow.
43:37 Speaker 01 That it actually distracts him.
43:39 Lewis Howes? Really?
43:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, so what I've kind of learned now is To not fall into that, or I'm trying to anyways, I'm trying not to fall into that and constantly rebalance. Because there's so many shiny objects, there's so many ways and opportunities and like, what do we do and how do we do it? That very easily it could lose myself. And I have, by the way, like there's, I'm not sitting here saying, guys, I got this. Like, I am in the same seat as everybody else, not a perfect man. Just a different level, yeah, yeah, just different levels. I, I hate to even say that because it's kind of like. We're all so different in so many different ways, but I can just tell you the same mistakes you make, I make. The same fears you have, I have. The same problems you have, I deal with on a daily basis.
44:23 Speaker 01 The same pain, it gets, it's all the same. And in my case, I am just learning that I can very easily get lost in the momentum of things. And I need to always remember what's important. What is important for me that I'm reminding myself is my family. Is the spiritual work that got me here. Cause now he's like, no, look, I got all this manifestation, whatever this happened, that happened. And you forget, cause my teacher, one of my teachers, Karen Berg, said, whatever miracle you're having today. Is because of seeds you planted six months ago. Or six years ago. Six years ago. So if you want to have miracles again in six months, or in six years, or in six days. Plant the same seeds now that you did before.
45:09 Speaker 01 The greatest seed you can plant for miracles is when you are so broken, so at the bottom, so confused. So like hopeless, but you inject happiness, certainty, and you do those four quadrants, when you're at the bottom. It's the greatest light that can be revealed. So I know that a lot of the great things that are happening in my life today are from, let me think about it. It was some, it was probably from one of the most painful times of my life. I mean, a lot of painful things happened last year, the transition of obviously, you know, family and relationship. A very painful thing happened four years ago, which was like one of the worst things I've, like every four years, something crazy happens. And then I know that either a year, two years, three years later, there's a huge blessing that comes as well.
45:52 Speaker 01 So I'll tell people if you're going through that now. That darkness that broke in that like I don't even know what to do and it's I'm so scared. If you apply these four quadrants right now, it's the greatest soil to plant this seed.
46:09 Lewis Howes? Mm hmm. I love that you started this when we talked about going from kind of broke to millionaire today. If you had to restart this process or teach this process to someone who's struggling financially that that's trying to earn a lot of money.
46:21 Speaker 01 Yeah.
46:22 Lewis Howes? That you don't give some, you know, go register a business domain or go start an LLC or, you know, buy this book and, and learn these kind of financial strategies. You're not teaching that first.
46:33 Speaker 01 No.
46:33 Lewis Howes? You're saying, understand your spiritual vessel and take an assessment of where you are in the four areas of life. Spiritual, your level of certainty and belief in yourself. Uh, your, your prayer, your level of prayer and how that looks for you and your physical world. Because I think a lot of people get ahead of themselves on how do I make money? Whatever I need to create. I need to come up with some good idea and then execute this idea.
47:01 Speaker 01 Yeah.
47:02 Lewis Howes? To get ahead of themselves on the product, the process, uh, who they need to hire before assessing themselves.
47:09 Speaker 01 Correct.
47:10 Lewis Howes? Creating self-awareness on their life.
47:13 Speaker 01 Correct.
47:13 Lewis Howes? And these are the, like you said, this is the soil for you to expand and grow.
47:19 Speaker 01 Correct.
47:19 Lewis Howes? And without having fertile soil, without having the assessment of these kind of four areas, you will ultimately fail or be stressed or be overwhelmed or burdened with something else. And be brought back to these four areas.
47:33 Speaker 01 That is correct.
47:33 Lewis Howes? So you might be getting ahead of yourself and be successful on the outside, but suffer on the inside without applying these four keys and constantly being reminded of them.
47:43 Speaker 01 Correct.
47:44 Lewis Howes? So that is the first, I don't know if that's the first four steps for you then. Uh, but would there be other steps after that? Once you were like, okay, I'm gonna get into a spiritual practice and ask God to show me what my soul needs right now to expand my vessel. I'm going to have certainty that this is everything. That everything that's happening for me is happening for my good, for my benefit, for growth. I'm certain this is working out. I'm certain this is for me. Thank you so much. Appreciating what you're creating right now. To into prayer, give me the certainty. I have certainty. I am certainty. I am wealth. Like saying these things over and over.
48:22 Speaker 01 And you can ask for anything.
48:24 Lewis Howes? Yes. And then making sure that the body is taking care of itself, that you are taking care of your body, you're moving, you're sweating, you're sleeping. You're intentional about what you're eating and how you're consuming, all these different things. Once you've got that foundation. And you still gotta go make money now.
48:40 Speaker 01 Yes.
48:40 Lewis Howes? What are you doing next?
48:42 Speaker 01 Well, here's what's amazing. When you do these four things, you are connected on such a vibration where you start to have divine inspiration. So the divine ideas and thoughts become to a person who's doing these four things. We know that when a person is happy, they receive messages. When a person is sad, they don't receive messages. And why? Because it's a vibration of energy. Happiness is in line with the light of the Creator. So you're receiving divine inspiration. You're receiving visions of the future. You're receiving the right words at the right time. You're actually finding yourself in the right place at the right time. And it's all working out when you're on that vibration, when you're not in that vibration and you have sadness.
49:23 Speaker 01 Or there's laziness, or there's this being stubborn and not listening. Then it's like the thoughts are blocked, the ideas are blocked. You could be saying the right things, but people don't feel you. I've heard this so many times. They'll be like, I hear you saying all the right things, but it's like.
49:44 Lewis Howes? The energy's off.
49:44 Speaker 01 The energy's off. Or they hear something totally different because everybody feels our energy. They're not listening to our words. This is a very powerful thing that I've also learned. Because when I started to like, want to put content out there, one of the mistakes I knew I could have made was. I want to, how do I make really the content unique? And I was talking to somebody else recently and she's like, I haven't found my niche to put out new, unique content. I don't want to be like every other influencer. And I said, look, if you're trying to solve this in the physical realm.
50:18 Speaker 01 This is niche, this is my niche. You'll get far, but the world is looking for something very different. And I actually think content for our next generation, what the audience will really appreciate. I call it content two point O. It's less about the, the hacks of life and, you know, hey, like,
50:40 Speaker 01 like we said before, like if you're in a breakup, block them for thirty days. And like, respect yourself, like all of these things are like really great, but we've heard it a lot. The two point O is
50:54 Speaker 01 the energy you transmit through the content, the certainty you transmit through the content, the, the spirituality through the work you've done on yourself, that you transmit through the content. This will be the new era of influencers. Because people are now, people see through the BS. People see through the, um, I'm telling you what I think is great to hear.
51:23 Lewis Howes? But they don't believe it, or they don't have certainty around it or something.
51:26 Speaker 01 Or they're turning off the camera and going back and screaming at their kids. Or, or cheating on their wife, or whatever it is that's going on. So the, so they're saying one thing but doing another, right? And by the way, we're all, we're all like inauthentic in some way. I, whatever I say to you, am I living it perfectly? Absolutely not. The question becomes, what is your desire? If your desire is to always reach that level, it is as if you have reached that level. But if you're really just living two different lives and you're like, I know this is what the world wants to hear. And this is actually what I want to do. That polarity is going to be shut down and not rewarded. I believe in the next five to ten years.
52:10 Speaker 01 So you do not have to be perfect, but you have to have a desire to want to grow these four quadrants. The desire itself is the immunity and the protection and your audience will feel it. And I really want to emphasize that. Don't try to be perfect. I've tried this and it has backfired tremendously. I've tried to look perfect. I've tried to say, oh, my God, if I'm on a spiritual platform, I can't make any mistakes. I can't. I used to not leave my house for fear that I would make a mistake and ruin my reputation. It was that bad.
52:39 Lewis Howes? Wow.
52:39 Speaker 01 That was, that was why I said in the last podcast, I didn't even date a woman from the age of 20 to 29 until the day I got married. Because I was so afraid.
52:48 Lewis Howes? Of making mistakes or?
52:49 Speaker 01 Hurting somebody, having a bad reputation, somebody calling me an asshole, somebody calling me a creep, somebody calling me whatever. And then I realized I was actually avoiding.
52:57 Lewis Howes? Ah.
52:58 Speaker 01 Very much what my probably spiritual work was at the time, which was, you know, need for approval, let's say.
53:04 Lewis Howes? Wow.
53:04 Speaker 01 So it is very.
53:06 Lewis Howes? Cause you don't want to be criticized or you didn't want someone to say you're not living up to the standard that you're preaching or something like that.
53:12 Speaker 01 No, I, I think there's, I feel like I would be, if I had to get on a stage and say something and feel that when I got off of it, I did the exact opposite intentionally. I would die inside, like I would feel like I could not. And I think most people cannot do that. Like you can't like get on and talk when you know you're doing something else.
53:33 Lewis Howes? Yeah, it's authentic. It's authentic. It's a disconnection. What is the biggest fear for you then? We've, we've heard the, the, the thing that you maybe, I mean, I guess you're, again, you're doing all of these four things at a high level, but you're saying the spiritual aspect is the thing that's speaking to you that you need to continue to step into.
53:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
53:52 Lewis Howes? Even though that's not, it's not like you've erased the spiritual aspect, but you're like, okay, I need to refocus on this at another level.
53:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
53:58 Lewis Howes? But what is the biggest fear you face in your life right now? Because you have this billion dollar plus brand. You have a growing audience of communities that are inspired by you. You're the healthiest you've ever been. Um, you know, your kids are starting to grow up. What is your biggest fear?
54:22 Lewis Howes? You have spiritual wisdom that you've been teaching and serving for a long time. You know, what's, what's the big fear for you?
54:28 Speaker 01 I think in some of my most recent walks and meditations and prayer, and I ask like, what is my soul meant to do? And I see, I see like a future. I see a vision of something I know I would love to do and a desire to do and believe I'm meant to do.
54:48 Speaker 01 Let's say, for example, it's an audience. Cause again, I only started this like a half a year ago, eight months ago. I, if I want to reach, if I want to be of service to, let's say, a hundred million people, that they learn this wisdom of the Creator, not my wisdom, like totally be clear about that. This is not my wisdom. This is not my content. This is all stuff I've learned from my teachers. I've learned it from their teachers for thousands of years. And I love that we can have access to it. And I, I would love to be part of that process of bringing it to the world. But how am I, how would I, I ask my question, how would I sabotage that? Because if I'm a vessel for that, the question's gonna be,
55:31 Speaker 01 what do I need to do to expand the vessel to fit that energy through to a hundred million people? Right? I don't know. If my audience is a couple million now, I would have to become a completely different person to service a hundred million people or a billion people and not fall. There's a lot of times we can get to those numbers and then there's a crash that happens. So I'm always asking myself like, what do I need to do to the best of my ability to expand my vessel to service those souls if I feel that's my purpose? One of the things that's come up, and I'll just be vulnerable about it, is
56:04 Speaker 01 that I think the, the most dangerous thing we all face, and I have it real big, is the need for validation. Right? We all love being validated. We love when people message us and say,
56:20 Lewis Howes? You're amazing. You're awesome.
56:22 Speaker 01 Every time somebody says, "That was the best podcast with you and Lewis", I'm like sending it to you right away. Like, "Did you see that?" And the truth is, it's great to receive thank yous and compliments and validation. But I ask myself, what's gonna happen when? It was like you you give a seminar for a thousand people like I can't figure a seminar like you have four or five thousand people there and I asked myself if I was on the stage like I would I would be like wow like look at me and the fact that that would affect me and change me means I'm not ready for it.
56:52 Lewis Howes? Ah, interesting, but you've been teaching workshops for twenty years.
56:55 Speaker 01 I have.
56:57 Lewis Howes? The big audiences, the massive celebrities, billionaires, like they all come to you and say, teach me, coach me, help me.
57:02 Speaker 01 So I remember when I was twenty four years old, I started at twenty teaching seminars, at twenty four I went on tour. And I went to four different cities a week for for a year.
57:13 Lewis Howes? Wow.
57:13 Speaker 01 So I I don't know what it was, I did like two hundred something seminars. And so I would go to Phoenix, there'd be like three hundred people there, I would go to San Francisco, there was seven hundred people there, I went. And I and I went, I went with like a group of five people, I was staying at the great hotels, I was eating great food, I'm like, this is like rock star, I felt so great.
57:31 Lewis Howes? People come up to you after a speech and you're amazing and you're changing my life and thank you.
57:35 Speaker 01 So new for me, I'm like, this is amazing, right, you feel like you're changing the world, you feel like you're doing something spiritual, like, I think after like the thirtieth one, because and it's the same seminar over and over again. I was like exhausted, I'm like, I don't want to do this anymore. I I don't want to see people anymore, I remember like vomiting in the airports, I wasn't sleeping enough, I'm flight after flight after flight. And I'm like, I didn't, I like didn't want it at all. And I didn't want to go to another city and at some point, people coming up to you and saying that was great becomes the opposite. It's more like you feel like they're taking energy from you.
58:08 Lewis Howes? Hmm, not that they're telling you the whole life story for three hours and you're trying to be president, serve and you're like, okay, now I'm exhausted.
58:14 Speaker 01 Correct, before it was like, wow, look, they want my energy, now it's like, oh my god, they want my energy.
58:20 Lewis Howes? Right, right, right.
58:20 Speaker 01 So I remember calling my mentor at the time and I said to him, so why, like one of like probably one of the wisest spiritual teachers, uh, isn't it Michael Berg, and I said to him, I said, I said, I don't want to do this anymore, like I'm exhausted, I want to come back to LA, I want to sleep in my bed, I want to like just teach there. And he said to me something I'll never forget, one of the most profound things he ever said, he said, you need to know, everything you've done up to this point actually was no revelation of light because you were the taker. You went to San Francisco and you took validation from them. I know it looked like you gave them, but you took from them.
58:59 Lewis Howes? But you did it because you were excited about the validation. You were good.
59:02 Speaker 01 Correct. And so, and so, yes, they look like they were inspired, but to the extent of the taking is they're not going to be left with the blessing and the miracle. They're not going to remember the wisdom. The reason why we, we, we still, there's the major religions of Christianity and Buddhism and Islam and Judaism, like, like, the reason why these words, these great sages still continue till today is because they perfected their, their need for approval. They perfected their vessel to truly be pure channels. And so their words became immortal.
59:34 Lewis Howes? Wow.
59:35 Speaker 01 And the reason why most people just forget about us after a certain point is because our words are not immortal because we are really like we're mixing some purity with a lot of selfishness as well. And I thought to myself, to the extent of my need for validation is to the extent that not only will my words not carry, not only will the message not carry, but I will not be able to, to reach that group of people. So he said to me, he said, from this moment on, everything you do will actually be giving because you don't want to do it anymore. You're not even enjoying it.
1:00:10 Speaker 01 You look at someone approaching you like, oh, God. And then when you look them in the eye and you talk to them, this is, you are now God because you don't have any desire to receive for yourself.
1:00:21 Lewis Howes? But isn't the whole point of life to receive?
1:00:23 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:00:24 Lewis Howes? So we're creating something to serve.
1:00:27 Speaker 01 Very deep question.
1:00:28 Lewis Howes? We're creating to, because we want to serve. And the whole point is to receive all of our life's desires and dreams and manifestations and abundance, right? So do we just create and not receive anything?
1:00:42 Speaker 01 You are now asking the most powerful question. And from this moment on, if I answer it, we are actually now studying Kabbalah. Because everything before this was like pre-Kabbalah. It was like scrimmage. Because I didn't, I rarely, it was JV. Now we're in the varsity. If you want to hear the answer to this, because, and for the audience that's going to hear it, it's going to sound contradictory and it's going to bend your mind a little bit, but you're going to feel the energy of it. Because Kabbalah is so powerful and advanced and I almost never on a podcast format will go into it. I'll do it in my master classes because we have time. But here's the thing. There are two vessels inside of you to receive. One is a called a linear vessel and one is called a circular vessel. What do we know about a linear vessel?
1:01:27 Speaker 01 It has a beginning and an end. Meaning if you feed that vessel, you're always gonna feel good and then it's gonna be gone. And this is how most people feel. I got validation, I feel amazing. And then tomorrow, I need it again.
1:01:39 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
1:01:41 Speaker 01 Okay? Most people are operating in a linear vessel. When you get to that point, where you no longer enjoy the giving, and you still push through with the intention of, I'm doing this to become one with the Creator. Because I just want to fit into your form.
1:02:00 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
1:02:01 Speaker 01 You now shift to a circular vessel. The circular vessel is endless. And no chaos can come in this. And now you can receive endlessly. Because what happens when you don't care anymore, but you're still give? I can give you a million dollars, I can give you a hundred million dollars. I can have a million people say you're amazing and it won't affect you. Because you're serving now, you're looking for validation from the Creator.
1:02:24 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
1:02:27 Speaker 01 You can only get to that second phase when you no longer are in the mood to give. And then you shift through that darkness.
1:02:35 Lewis Howes? So what does that look like specifically for you right now? Or for someone watching right now? Maybe they do something, maybe it's with a good intention, but unconsciously or they still want that validation or they still want someone to acknowledge them or they still want someone to appreciate how hard they're showing up for them or whatever.
1:02:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:02:52 Lewis Howes? Maybe it's an employee and they want that from their boss consistently. Maybe it's a your romantic partnership, you do something for your partner and ah, they're not thanking me or appreciating me enough, you know, I'm guilty of all those things.
1:03:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:03:05 Lewis Howes? So what would the process look like for for anyone or for yourself to going from a linear vessel of, I'm gonna do something and I hope to get something.
1:03:14 Speaker 01 Yeah. And then I gotta do it all over again.
1:03:15 Lewis Howes? And then I gotta keep showing up every day and like.
1:03:18 Speaker 01 And then if somebody does give you a validation, you're depressed for three, four days.
1:03:20 Lewis Howes? You're resentful, you're frustrated, you're you're on, you know, whatever, you're negative.
1:03:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:03:26 Lewis Howes? Your negative thought process. So how do we get out of this linear loop that holds us back from needing something consistently? When we still need things to live and survive also in the physical realm to getting into a circular place where you don't care about receiving something, but you still give and then you receive abundantly?
1:03:48 Speaker 01 Ninety-nine percent of this spiritual work is just wanting it. So what I hope from this podcast, everyone hearing is, hey, we're all in the same boat. We all want validation, we want everyone to love us. Like, we want to be the man, we want to be the woman, we want to be it. Let's admit that that's our problem.
1:04:07 Lewis Howes? Yes.
1:04:07 Speaker 01 And then let's pray, ask and desire and say, I want to get to this circular place where I don't need it at all and I can truly serve and be a giver and I receive only the validation of the Creator. I invoice the Creator, I don't invoice the people.
1:04:26 Speaker 01 I have learned that when I do a favor for someone, immediately I write an invoice to the Creator. I do not, otherwise I will look for something from the person. I did something for them, why aren't they doing something for me? There is nothing more powerful than invoicing the Creator.
1:04:41 Lewis Howes? So what does that look like? You do something for someone else, you give a speech, you do this podcast and a thousand people message you, "You're amazing, David, that was incredible, you blew my mind, thank you for your wisdom and you're changing my life."
1:04:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:04:54 Lewis Howes? How do you invoice the Creator instead of people validating you?
1:04:58 Speaker 01 When, when it's coming to you, you have to pause constantly and say, okay, one second, what is this doing to me? Is this inflating my ego? Is this, is this making me feel a certain way? How do I recalibrate myself back to becoming the vessel that creates miracles? How do I get back to being the cause? Because as soon as somebody validates you, you become the effect. Now, they are controlling my mood. I'm no longer in the vibration of God and the Creator and I am now actually not planting any more seeds. Now, that doesn't mean we shouldn't compliment people, we should.
1:05:35 Lewis Howes? And, and you don't want to bypass and say, oh, it's all the Creator, you know?
1:05:39 Speaker 01 You don't want to bypass it either.
1:05:40 Lewis Howes? Don't say, ah, don't, it's not me, it's the Creator.
1:05:42 Speaker 01 Never say that to them, you always say thank you to them. You never say, oh, no, no, it's not me, because you're also now rejecting their ability to shine their light.
1:05:50 Lewis Howes? You're blocking their gift.
1:05:51 Speaker 01 Exactly. So, it's the constant calibration of, um, this is why slow and steady wins the race. And if you, if you get too successful too fast.
1:06:01 Lewis Howes? So true.
1:06:01 Speaker 01 Yeah, you get too famous too fast, it's almost impossible to recalibrate your consciousness. You almost have to fall and then the recalibration happens, which by the way, it's happened to me many times, I've fallen and then I had to recalibrate. I'm learning now, if I wanna go at this momentum, I need to like pray more, I need to like ground myself more. I need to spend time with people who have achieved this. I went to dinner. I was in Miami, I went to dinner with someone. I had two options, to go somewhere really fun or go to this dinner. And I went to the dinner, it was three, three people. And I'm trying to see if I am allowed to, you know what, I'm gonna say his name because I think that he would appreciate it. And it'll be context of the story. Do you remember Adam Newman?
1:06:43 Lewis Howes? From? Yeah, WeWork.
1:06:44 Speaker 01 WeWork, right?
1:06:45 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
1:06:46 Speaker 01 So, he's got a, he's got a great story, right? So, Adam.
1:06:50 Lewis Howes? A lot of people don't like his story, but yeah.
1:06:52 Speaker 01 A lot of people don't like it. I'm not here to give a opinion, right?
1:06:55 Lewis Howes? Yeah, of course, yeah.
1:06:55 Speaker 01 But there's a very powerful.
1:06:57 Lewis Howes? Uh huh, well, he fricking exploded and this massive unicorn got huge investment, but then it all crumbled. We Crash was the documentary. I was in it.
1:07:07 Speaker 01 You were in it?
1:07:07 Lewis Howes? Well, they took a part of my, um.
1:07:09 Speaker 01 Oh wait, actually I.
1:07:10 Lewis Howes? They took an interview clip of mine and recreated it.
1:07:13 Speaker 01 Oh, really?
1:07:13 Lewis Howes? Cause I had the only interview with Rebecca.
1:07:15 Speaker 01 Oh, yes.
1:07:16 Lewis Howes? And so they kind of recreated that clip of me and they even say like School of Greatness, but it was some actor, so.
1:07:22 Speaker 01 That's unbelievable.
1:07:23 Lewis Howes? Anyways.
1:07:23 Speaker 01 I love that.
1:07:24 Lewis Howes? We had dinner with him.
1:07:25 Speaker 01 So I met Adam for the first time before he had WeWork and I was teaching privately in someone's home. Uh, and he.
1:07:32 Lewis Howes? Before he had WeWork, you met him.
1:07:34 Speaker 01 Wow. He had his other companies, before he was Adam, like there was no, and he, he, he was learning Kabbalah in this home.
1:07:41 Lewis Howes? Interesting.
1:07:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, it was a private, private thing. So, I've known him all these years and he, he has been an incredible, he and Rebecca have been incredible. Uh, friends, mentors, guides, um, in so many different ways. Like when you get to know who they are. Um, and the, the, the love they have and what they wanna give, like, I've always kept them by myself. So, and married with.
1:08:02 Lewis Howes? I went to the school that she created and I thought it was fascinating concept and I was there and I was watching, I was like, these kids are playing music in the morning and they're running around and it's.
1:08:10 Speaker 01 Yes, I just.
1:08:10 Lewis Howes? Creative learning and yeah.
1:08:12 Speaker 01 I just heard about the school in Miami, she was just telling me about it. I'm like, oh my God, I want this in LA.
1:08:15 Lewis Howes? Yeah, yeah.
1:08:16 Speaker 01 That would be, I would love my kids to be in that. So, I went to this dinner and he said to me, he said, look, I see what's happening to you. I see what's happening to your platform. I see what's happening to your business. And, and it was a four hour conversation. And they.
1:08:34 Speaker 01 I, what I got from that was basically the energy of, we hope, we, we never want you to crash. And here are the things you should do.
1:08:45 Lewis Howes? So it doesn't happen?
1:08:46 Speaker 01 So that it doesn't happen.
1:08:47 Lewis Howes? Or what do you say?
1:08:49 Speaker 01 Okay, so the biggest thing was the validation.
1:08:52 Lewis Howes? Ah.
1:08:53 Speaker 01 He said, you have to be, from a validation point of view, you have to make sure that you do not allow this to take you from the core of who you are. And from everything you did to get to this point, reconnect with your spirituality deeper and deeper than ever. Reconnect with your mentors and teachers and the ones who were there for you more deeper and deeper than ever before. It also has something very interesting. They have, I, they have a great relationship together and he said, you know, being in a relationship, being in a healthy relationship, a romantic relationship, whatever, like this is also a very important thing. It makes you choose wisely.
1:09:29 Lewis Howes? Uh huh.
1:09:30 Speaker 01 The greatest thing that ever happened to me in my life is my relationship partnership with Mary Ruth, a female figure in my life who undoubtedly, without her, I would not be anywhere that I am today. Like, I owe everything to her. And so how, whoever that partner is in your life, right? The way Mary Ruth took me from who I was to where I am today and whatever that next chapter of my life is, like this, they said, was so valuable because that is who you're spending the most time with.
1:09:58 Lewis Howes? Mm hmm.
1:09:58 Speaker 01 That is who is affecting your consciousness. That's who is affecting your belief systems. And so this is a very important thing as well. And um, the third thing they said, remember the intention of why you are teaching this wisdom. And it is only about the light of the Creator and helping people connect with the light of the Creator, know the Creator, and not know you. Because one of, one of the things I struggled with is,
1:10:29 Speaker 01 as a marketer by trade, what's the smartest way to bring this wisdom out?
1:10:33 Lewis Howes? Personal brand?
1:10:34 Speaker 01 Personal brand, yeah.
1:10:36 Lewis Howes? So that's interesting. So how do you build a personal brand? Because people need to hear from a messenger. They need to hear from people that they can connect with or relate to from their story, their backstory. And so how, how do you, or how does anyone build a personal brand without losing themselves in the desire to be validated constantly from their community or audience?
1:10:59 Lewis Howes? Because the personal brand is gonna help you probably get to the nice level of reaching people. They need to know about you if you want to impact a hundred million people.
1:11:05 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:11:07 Lewis Howes? But how do you not let that take over your soul of like, oh, I'm the man, or I have all this attention, or people love me?
1:11:14 Speaker 01 Yeah. So, I don't know. I don't know yet because I'm, I'm just gonna be honest. I don't, I don't fully know because I'm going through it. And I also believe I'm failing, by the way. I like, I remind myself every day, most likely you're failing this. Uh, because that will actually position me better to not be delusional. So, most likely I'm failing.
1:11:38 Lewis Howes? No, I got it all figured out. I'm doing it perfect. Yeah.
1:11:40 Speaker 01 It, it is so scary to me because I've, it's happened to me and I've seen it happen to people very close to me. So I almost always assume that I'm not doing it right. So, do I know how to do that? I'm struggling with it. I am praying every day. And I think this is probably the answer. I know my heart's in the right, I, I believe my heart's in the right place. I know my intention is I want to be pure. I don't want to be corrupted. I don't want to fall to this. I do see my negativity come up regularly and, and this is new negativity because I never been in this position before. So like, I'm so human. Like, I always want to like let the world know, like, I am human, like, know that I'm gonna disappoint you.
1:12:22 Speaker 01 And I am doing right now the best I can with just pray and ask and, um, just be around good people who I know will call me out.
1:12:30 Lewis Howes? Yes.
1:12:30 Speaker 01 So, and, and they called me out for like four hours.
1:12:33 Lewis Howes? Really?
1:12:33 Speaker 01 Yeah. Oh, and the first thing, and I felt, I felt, I felt my soul. And I left and then I call, I texted and I say, I said, I need, um, to hear that more often and I want to have that because it's not the words they said. Remember, they've gone through it.
1:12:47 Lewis Howes? They've got the highest high, all the attention, all the investors, all the money, all the press, and then boom.
1:12:54 Speaker 01 Yeah. And, and, and I, and one of the things I asked, I said, what was really, what really like? What's the one thing that really did it? It's those covers of the magazines, he said. I mean, can you imagine being on the cover of Forbes? Cover of Times, the cover, like, I can't, I, I know if I, if that happened to me.
1:13:10 Lewis Howes? You mean it got his validation too big or too?
1:13:12 Speaker 01 I just like how all the energy happened, right? Like, once all of that happens, right? And I, and I, I really hope it's okay. I shared this, I, I believe that they would want this message to be out there. I know if I was on the cover of Forbes, my pride be demolished. My soul would probably rot at that point.
1:13:30 Lewis Howes? Really?
1:13:30 Speaker 01 Level of ego that would.
1:13:31 Lewis Howes? Really?
1:13:32 Speaker 01 And, and, and.
1:13:33 Lewis Howes? But if someone is, so how then?
1:13:35 Speaker 01 Me, I'm not saying other people, I'm saying for me at this stage.
1:13:38 Lewis Howes? Let's say, if that's something that you desire to reach hundreds of millions of people and, and spread a message of light, energy, love, and wholeness to the world.
1:13:48 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:13:49 Lewis Howes? And people want to acknowledge you to spread this message on the cover of magazines, on podcasts, or whatever it might be, billboards, or whatever, everything. It's like you're out there, your face.
1:13:59 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:13:59 Lewis Howes? David Keo. The, the man, the man who brings the message to the mass.
1:14:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:14:05 Lewis Howes? David Keo, you know, it's like. How will you approach that to say, oh, yes, I desire this also to bring it? And this is a consequence of me spreading this truth, spreading this message. And I want to be on the cover of things and things are going to happen for me. And millions of people are going to see these things. How will you set your future self up now? What seed are you planting now to set yourself up so that you don't lose yourself, your ego? In the linear vessel and you go into the circular vessel of, I'm just pouring this back into the Creator, back into light, energy, and, and redoing those four keys of my life and making sure I'm have the foundation and putting in circular, not linear? What's the seed you need to plant now for that to happen?
1:14:49 Lewis Howes? So when you're on the cover of Forbes, when you're on the cover of whatever, it doesn't get to you.
1:14:54 Speaker 01 That is the question.
1:14:56 Lewis Howes? Yes.
1:14:57 Speaker 01 And that is, I think, the only solution. I need to ask myself that question every day.
1:15:01 Lewis Howes? Because it's coming. If you desire it.
1:15:05 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:15:06 Lewis Howes? It will happen.
1:15:07 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:15:08 Lewis Howes? The momentum is there.
1:15:09 Speaker 01 Yeah, there are things that I see and that I feel, which means it's destined to happen, either in this lifetime or next.
1:15:15 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
1:15:15 Speaker 01 That's my free will. When, time will be the free will of when it happens.
1:15:20 Lewis Howes? So if you were, if the Creator is speaking to you right now. And saying, this is exactly what you need to do. In order for you to receive all the blessings and to be able to share my message with the world and to serve humanity at the highest level, to bring them light, to expand their vessel, so they are able to remind themselves that they are made of pure love and wholeness.
1:15:45 Lewis Howes? What does the Creator need to say to you? So that your ego doesn't think you're the one doing this when the fame, the success, the magazine covers come your way?
1:15:57 Speaker 01 This is why I love spending time with you, because you ask me these questions all the time.
1:16:03 Speaker 01 So I'm trying to take myself out of my body and ask if the Creator was asking me.
1:16:09 Lewis Howes? Or what is the Creator telling you?
1:16:11 Speaker 01 You know, there's a
1:16:14 Speaker 01 it's harder for me to describe in words, but I can describe in feelings.
1:16:19 Speaker 01 There's a feeling I have, I know when I've been broken.
1:16:25 Speaker 01 And like what that broken feeling is, and I still go out there. That feeling is a very powerful place to be. That it's like you're broken, but you're appreciative, you're broken, but you're happy. That's the only protection. And I have to always try to connect to that energy. And duplicate that so that crashing doesn't do that. And just as you're saying it, I think I would need to take even more time out of my day. Instead of manifesting things, instead of working, instead of trying to make more money. I need to work on building that feeling and that consciousness, because that vessel is what's going to be able to hold that future that you're just talking about.
1:17:09 Speaker 01 And I think what I'm actually realizing as I'm talking to you is the negative side, this like dark force that we all have an opponent, this opponent. Could very well be giving me so much good things. So that I don't spend any time or I just don't have the time to reconnect to that consciousness of a broken vessel.
1:17:30 Lewis Howes? Cause you have so much momentum, so many opportunities. Oh, this is all these blessings are coming to me and my whole purpose is to receive them.
1:17:37 Speaker 01 Right.
1:17:38 Lewis Howes? So I'm receiving, I'm receiving all of this is coming, it's coming.
1:17:40 Speaker 01 Right. So all these things I'm doing will draw in the energy, but I'm actually not taking the time to build the vessel that will hold it when it comes. That's the danger.
1:17:51 Lewis Howes? It's getting, so it's getting away from those four keys.
1:17:53 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:17:54 Lewis Howes? It's like, it's just because you have so much going on that all your day is stacked that you kind of forget about the four keys.
1:18:00 Speaker 01 That is the scariest thing here. When you get so busy and the day is stacked because the good things are happening. You've, you then forget the spiritual and, and the spiritual things you did to get there.
1:18:13 Lewis Howes? You know, it's interesting. I had a pastor on a couple of years ago named Michael Todd and um, Christian pastor. And he had a book come out that was
1:18:24 Lewis Howes? on the New York Times list. I can't remember the exact, I think it was like three months, every week in a row for like three months, something like this. And early on in his pastor mentorship with like the pastor that taught him how to be a pastor and the person he was being mentored under. His past, his pastor mentor said, before you get into this, I want to remind you that, you know, I take a month every year to recharge. And every year, it doesn't matter if everything's going well, everything's going wrong. Like I take a month every year to, to reset and I do no work. No work for a month, no preaching, nothing. I'm with my family, I'm recovering, et cetera.
1:19:10 Lewis Howes? And he had been doing this every year for, I don't know, seven or eight years, as long as he's been doing the his church and his church just took off like crushing like he saw him everywhere, his audience, his platform, the church, everything is crushing. The New York Times bestselling book and the week it went off, he was on the New York Times bestseller list for every week for three months or something or five months. The week it stopped being on the New York Times bestseller list was the first week of his month of that year of his taking off time. And I go, why would you stop the momentum? And he goes, because I made a commitment and my, my pastor mentor told me early on that
1:19:52 Lewis Howes? great things are going to happen and it, but if I don't take time for me and my health and my relationships with my wife, my kids, like I'll eventually fall.
1:20:00 Speaker 01 Wow, what a discipline.
1:20:01 Lewis Howes? And, and he had a transformation with his own physical health over the last couple of years and it's like, I, I think there's something to that. There's a scary thing of blocking your momentum.
1:20:11 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:20:11 Lewis Howes? And stopping it because you're like, but this opportunity and this thing and this thing, but it's like, if you're not willing to take care of these other things and stop yourself to pause, doesn't mean you have to block the flow of abundance coming to you, but take time to really recharge. And it might have to be in the middle of the greatest like momentum you've ever had.
1:20:32 Speaker 01 So hard.
1:20:33 Lewis Howes? It's really hard.
1:20:35 Speaker 01 I think what you just said is so many people talk about how to make it. Very few people talk about how to hold it.
1:20:42 Lewis Howes? Sustain it.
1:20:43 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:20:43 Lewis Howes? Into being circular, not a start and end.
1:20:46 Speaker 01 That's right.
1:20:47 Lewis Howes? And so that it doesn't like end and you have to restart all some momentum because you have a big crash.
1:20:52 Speaker 01 Correct.
1:20:52 Lewis Howes? You know, going back to the WeWork founders is like, they're fine. I mean, they've got tons of money still, but have they really rebuilt something again? You know, it's like, so the bigger the crash is probably like, it takes more time to build momentum up again, right? You gotta let the dust settle. You gotta recalibrate your own personality, all these different things, right? And maybe they've got so much money, it doesn't matter anymore, but it's like, there's still a recovery phase that happens when you crash.
1:21:17 Speaker 01 Correct.
1:21:18 Lewis Howes? To course correct, to get back on track, to heal, mend, whatever you need to mend. And so it's just something to think about.
1:21:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, we don't talk about it enough.
1:21:26 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
1:21:27 Speaker 01 That's for sure.
1:21:28 Lewis Howes? Yeah, so it's just something to think about, but I mean, so that's your, that's your biggest fear.
1:21:32 Speaker 01 I, after you said it, and that's what I heard.
1:21:35 Lewis Howes? That's what came up for you.
1:21:36 Speaker 01 That's what came up for me. To make the time, or even take the time off to always recalibrate and get to that one feeling I had before, that I knew that was the perfect vessel, that was the circular vessel. When you're broken and you're crushed and you're rejected and you feel like humiliated, you don't want to walk outside, but you still show up, then you're just a giver.
1:21:56 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
1:21:57 Speaker 01 It's not about you anymore, but then everybody loves you again. And then that's a problem, right? And the counter is I can say that because when you do, when you're broken, you go out there and you give, then the miracles come and then everybody loves you. So you keep, you keep, there's manifestation and then you need to recreate the vessel. The question is, do you recreate it proactively, which is very hard? Or do you wait for the universe to crush you?
1:22:19 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
1:22:19 Speaker 01 To build it.
1:22:20 Lewis Howes? Yeah. Man, how to go from broke to millionaire. It's all about the foundational stuff and this is really the kind of the mindset stuff behind it. Because you know, a lot of people have made a lot of money and lost it all. And so it's like, what's the point of doing it unless you have the wholeness and the peace and the certainty within you? That you are creating from a place of not needing the validation. You know, receiving the blessings that come to you and creating meaningful relationships with people, but not doing it because you need the validation, but doing it because you want to give from a place of service and from place of, I guess, giving it all up to the creator.
1:23:05 Speaker 01 Only looking for validation from the creator.
1:23:07 Lewis Howes? Only looking for validation from the creator. And what did you say, taking receipts from the creator? What is that, invoicing the creator?
1:23:12 Speaker 01 Invoicing the creator.
1:23:13 Lewis Howes? What does that mean, invoicing the creator?
1:23:14 Speaker 01 When you do a service for someone, then you send them an invoice and say, here's your, here's what you have to pay for my services, right? And one of the ways I've learned to kind of let go of resentment is I will do something for someone or give them time, maybe money, maybe energy, and maybe they don't appreciate, maybe they do nothing with it. But I know that that energy is not lost. So I go to the creator and I say, creator. I'm now invoicing you, you have to pay this bill.
1:23:39 Lewis Howes? Wow, that's cool.
1:23:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, so you pay the bill through any way you want. And then I'm I'm not resenting the person anymore.
1:23:46 Lewis Howes? Cause you trust the creator is gonna bring you everything you need.
1:23:49 Speaker 01 You get your trust and you also basically say, hey, look, this is my services. This is how much energy I use, this is my vessel I created. And this is the
1:23:56 Lewis Howes? You're gonna pay me for my service.
1:23:57 Speaker 01 Pay me for my services. Well, you obviously have to let go about when and how it happens.
1:24:00 Lewis Howes? Yeah, and how much.
1:24:01 Speaker 01 And how much, but you
1:24:03 Lewis Howes? I did this much energy, pay me a billion dollars now. Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
1:24:06 Speaker 01 You you should never look to you should never look to take from the people. You should only look to receive from the creator. Now, the creator may send the people to give to you. But your intention should never be, because otherwise that's when we get upset with people.
1:24:21 Lewis Howes? And resentful, man, that's been one of the biggest challenges for me is like. It's funny, because I took this test, or this like online quiz of like, who's your Disney character? I don't know if you've ever like You know, talking about like It's a buzzword or something, or it's like of like the thousand Disney characters. Um, it's like your personality test of like who you are, right? And mine was Maui. And Maui and Maui feels like he does all these things for all these people and no one appreciates him.
1:24:48 Speaker 01 Oh, my God.
1:24:49 Lewis Howes? And I was like, yeah, that's probably me, you know, it's like, yeah. And so it was just a good reminder to be like, okay, I need to stop. Needing the appreciation of people. And and I used to be an extreme people pleaser, where like, I'm just gonna give, give, give, give, give. And they didn't, people didn't, you know, acknowledge it or whatever.
1:25:04 Speaker 01 Right.
1:25:04 Lewis Howes? And I'm like, mother evers, you know, like, what's going on? I'm like, putting all this energy into this and they're taking it. But not even a thank you or whatever, right? That's the whole Maui's thing, it's like
1:25:14 Speaker 01 Wow.
1:25:14 Lewis Howes? He says, thank you, you're welcome or whatever, right? So
1:25:17 Speaker 01 Oh, my gosh, that's so powerful.
1:25:18 Lewis Howes? He's like, I brought the moon down for you and you didn't even say thank you. You know, I brought the frickin' land up, he didn't say thank you, all these things in his songs, so.
1:25:24 Speaker 01 Wow.
1:25:25 Lewis Howes? I was like, yeah, I can relate to that, that makes sense. And it speaks true to me, what you're saying, instead of like. Having needing the acknowledgement from people or needing someone to thank you or needing someone to give you something in return, whatever it might be. If I'm wanting to truly be of service. Then all I should be thinking of is is gratitude from the creator, not gratitude from people.
1:25:47 Speaker 01 Correct.
1:25:48 Lewis Howes? Now, I think it'd be nice to have some type of decency of just like a simple thank you because, I don't know, I feel like there's something there in exchange of energy with people still.
1:25:56 Speaker 01 People are programmed not to give you something that you are looking for from them. That's what's interesting. People like to give to people who don't feel entitled to it in any way, or are not even expecting it. And so when you talk to the Creator and you still feel you deserve, but from the Creator, you say Creator, I trust the way you will manifest it with people. Then your energy is like very like whole and complete and the people actually want to give to you more.
1:26:20 Lewis Howes? Yes.
1:26:20 Speaker 01 And that's when they actually come to you.
1:26:22 Lewis Howes? Yes.
1:26:22 Speaker 01 Very fascinating.
1:26:23 Lewis Howes? That's interesting. So it's cool. Don't look for validation from people. Invoice God or the Creator to pay you for your services. And it may show up in people providing and clients or opportunities or jobs or whatever it might be.
1:26:37 Speaker 01 He'll send the people and the people have no choice but they'll come to you like, I don't even know why, but I gotta do this for you.
1:26:41 Lewis Howes? Wow, that's beautiful, man. Well, I appreciate you, David, being in the house. This has been a powerful episode. Again, for people watching or listening, leave your biggest takeaway from this episode. What opened up for you? What spoke to you? What resonated? What is the one thing you needed to hear today? And what's the one action step you're gonna take to support you in the four keys of your life? Spiritual, certainty, prayer and physical? And also, what action step are you to take to go from a linear vessel into a circular vessel in your life? Share this with a friend. Let us know, even though we don't need the validation. Let us know, let us know, you know, what is speaking to you, what is resonating to you. Don't worry, we won't hold on to all the validation. We'll bring it in.
1:27:29 Lewis Howes? But we appreciate, you know, all of your comments in the previous videos and episodes and everyone sharing this with people. I appreciate you, David, for being a channel of inspiration, of hope, of wisdom from, you know, our ancestors and wise individuals before us. And being able to communicate in a way that people can understand it. And communicating the message in a way where people can resonate and connect with it. Exactly where they're at in their life. And I hope everyone watching and listening hears exactly what they need to hear and they act on that thing in the next step. I'm not expecting people to understand all of it and try to apply it all at once. It's a lot. But if there's one thing that's speaking to you, that thing that hmm, that hit you in
1:28:13 Lewis Howes? your heart or your chest and something you're like, oh yeah, I know I need to work on that. Or oh, that spoke to me, or I can relate to that. Move into that fear, move into that pain, say thank you. What a blessing, what a pleasure and lean into it. So David, thank you so much for being here. DavidGiam.com, your social media, David Giam as well. You've got master classes on this wisdom. It goes extensively on your website as well. And I'm excited to keep creating together, my man. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it
1:28:56 Lewis Howes? easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneymeasbook.com right now and get yourself a copy. I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment, moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.
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