Top Chef All-Scam Edition w Angela "The Kitchenista" Davis (Fraud Friday)

Angela "The Kitchenista" Davis helps Laci cook up a juicy episode on Darius “Crooks” Williams, a chef blogger accused of shady business practices, assault, and plagiarizing recipes. Plus, a man is out $30 million after building a section of “Trump’s” border wall and ending up with no buyers. Content Warning: Physical and sexual assault is mentioned in this episode. Please take care of yourself while listening. (Originally Released 08/09/2021) Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod https://www.instagram.com/scamgoddesspod/ Laci Mosley: @divalaci https://www.instagram.com/divalaci/ Angela Davis: @thekitchenista https://www.instagram.com/thekitchenista/ See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:27Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 3:08Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess, and I'm here with another installation of what? Yes, Scam Goddess. And I'm so what? Yes, excited, right? Say it with me. Say it into your headphones. Say it into the bathroom that you're hiding from your children from during COVID. Hi, guys, I am really excited for this guest. Guys, this is Angela Davis. She's a chef. I've been following her Twitter for a while because she posts these very beautiful, like, photos of her delicious ass food and videos and shit. She's a self-taught, home cook, food blogger, recipe developer, food photographer, because she be getting angles on this food. Them angles, I'm like, honestly, I be getting hungry.

• 3:51Laci Mosley?

  Like, bro, who's, you know, in Detroit, The Kitchenista is the blog that she's had since 2012, and if you're on Twitter, if you're on any social profiles, The Kitchenista, get into it, yah! And we have her on the show. I know y'all been waiting for this episode. I know y'all been... First of all, y'all too demanding. The show is free for y'all, okay? So stop yelling at me about things, but also I will listen. We're here. Angela, The Kitchenista! Hello, hello, I'm so happy to be here. My icon, my queen. It's, okay, this is gonna sound so freaky and weird, but like, I've watched so many videos of you cooking that like, I know where the tattoos are on your wrists. That's so funny.

• 4:34Laci Mosley?

  Well, I just got new ones, so now you're gonna have to learn the new ones. So this is like a bit of a untraditional episode because, much like the Shaun King episode, which, y'all niggas got shot, you got me all blocked on all platforms for Shaun King. I didn't do that. I never tagged him, I never wrote his full name in the episode, but every time he was doing some fuck shit, people would drop the episode link under his photos to the point where he blocked me on every social media. That means you're doing something right if he blocked you. I know, I was proud. I was like, good. Yeah, that's a bad honor. He's a criminal criminal, like, and, oh my god, a mess. So we're talking about criminal criminals today, but first, before we do that, Angela,

• 5:17Laci Mosley?

  I have to ask you, outside of what we know we're here to talk about, what's your relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed? Do you hate scammers? Do you like them? Like, what? It could be anything. I'm definitely, I've been scammed. Personal life and business, like, I've been scammed in the sense of dating people or involved with people that had, like, you know, girlfriends or wives or children that I didn't know about, like, that kind of thing. Business, I've been scammed with people that just couldn't do what they, the way that they presented themselves. Like, my first encounter was, was a woman that claimed that she could publish, like, help me publish my first cookbook. This is like when I first started. Oh, okay.

• 6:01Laci Mosley?

  And she turned out to be a scammer, like, she had no experience, it just kind of fell apart quickly. So I've had a few situations like that in my, in my business life where people... She said she could publish her book, and you was like, okay. Yeah. What firm are you at? She said I'm at, I'm at FedEx Kinko's. That's my firm, that's my publishing company, FedEx Kinko's. It's crazy, when you go back and read stuff and you're like, how did I fall for that? But yeah, she, I mean, she was like a jack of all trades, so, early in the day, she was pretending to be a publisher. Charisma, that's how you fell for it. Like, there's a, there's a confidence that a lot of scammers have that is very disarming, that people fall in love with, and then they think that you can do things that you can't. Yes. And, because a lot of people who are successful in whatever they do are pretty confident

• 6:45Laci Mosley?

  in it because they've done it for a long time and they know it. So when you see a scammer adopt that same swag, you're like, oh yeah, this is what you do, right? Meanwhile... They just make them all, I know, I say, like, I want to move through life with the confidence of a scammer next time. Yes, I love that for you. Also, like, what a word. Like, that's, I think that's the word of the episode. Move through life with the confidence of a scammer. Yes. Wake up every day, look in the mirror and say, yes, I could scam. I could do robbery. I could do fraud. I don't even need the experience, I can do it. Yes, okay, so, on the show, we do something in the beginning that's called, uh, What's Hot and Fraud.

• 7:27Laci Mosley?

  Well, we're warning our listeners and people about what is poppin' in the streets, or more often than not, our listeners will snitch on their friends, families, and themselves. [email protected], just make sure that your scam is retired so that I don't what? Fuck up your bag. Exactly, like, make sure you're done before you tell us, okay? Because I feel like my FBI agent, uh, Stephen, he really be listening. Don't expose yourself. Okay, I got good FBI agents. Okay, so, I, this is a short one, because this is probably gonna be a longer episode, so this is a short What's Hot and Fraud. Give me a fake name, Angela, it could be anything, we don't care about gender. Katrina. Katrina, I like that, Katrina.

• 8:10Laci Mosley?

  So Katrina says, "Hey, Lacey, I just listened to your..." Oh, first of all, Katrina, why you spell my name L-A-C-E-Y? My name is in everything that I do. It's on every handle. It's L-A-C-I. Why y'all be doing that? Y'all lazy. But it's cool, I just want to say that. So, also, like, do spell it wrong, because like, I don't need the government knowing all my stuff, so, let's, you know, keep it diverse. I, I think I like it. So, says, "I just listened to your podcast when you talked about bacon bitch. Tracy Hudson basically made a bootleg restaurant that was supposed to be like bacon bitch." No way. But, um, yeah, and then turned it into brunch bitch. What I thought was fantastic, because it's like, very similar logos, very similar menu.

• 8:55Laci Mosley?

  Damn, people just have no shame. She did Mac Arnold's! She did Mac Arnold's from Coming to America. Said, "When y'all got McDonald's, we got Mac Arnold's." Okay. She didn't even try. I love it, I love the laziness, because I'm here for it. Says, "I just listened to your podcast when you talked about bacon bitch. I went to Miami three years ago, three years ago, and I was waiting to go onto a cruise, and that place was by the location of the dock. So I went there for lunch, and let me tell you, oh my god, so goddamn good. Five exclamation points. Said, if you're ever in Miami, check them out, good ass drinks too. Thank you for giving me something to binge every day and company..." Oh, this is very sweet.

• 9:36Laci Mosley?

  Um, well, that's a very fun intro to what is going to happen on this podcast today, because I think it's gonna be the opposite of that. But, wow, okay, I'm, I'm glad, Katrina, that you enjoyed bacon bitch. Now I do kind of want to go. But guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements, we'll be right back.

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• 11:52Laci Mosley?

  And we are back. And it's time for my favorite portion of this show, Historic Hoodwings. This is where I will normally regale Angela with a scam story and get her opinions all throughout. I am going to get her opinions all throughout, but she is very familiar with what we're going to be talking about today.

• 12:13Laci Mosley?

  Um.

• 12:14Speaker 07

  Too familiar.

• 12:16Laci Mosley?

  So before we really get into it, I wrote down some things and I'm, yeah, here we go. So today, we're talking about Gordon Scamsey.

• 12:30Laci Mosley?

  Chef Boyar Scheme.

• 12:35Speaker 07

  Chef Scamsey.

• 12:39Laci Mosley?

  Anthony Do-Robbery.

• 12:41Speaker 07

  No, don't, don't, don't do Tony like that.

• 12:45Speaker 07

  That's sacred. Don't do him like that.

• 12:47Laci Mosley?

  I know. I love Anthony Bourdain. That's why I couldn't, I really couldn't figure it out because I was like, no, I love this man.

• 12:52Speaker 07

  We can do, we can do Marcus Scamson. I think that was one of them.

• 12:57Laci Mosley?

  No, Anthony Bourdain is the king. Um, guys, we're talking about Darius Williams, um, who is more widely known as Darius Cooks and then even more widely known as Darius Crooks.

• 13:11Speaker 07

  Crooks, Mr. Crooks.

• 13:13Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 13:13Speaker 07

  I'm not even going to call him a chef anymore. This is Mr. Crooks.

• 13:16Laci Mosley?

  Mr. Crooks. And before we really get into it, like I always say, guys, y'all know I'm not trying to get sued, okay? And I need y'all on the ready to get my GoFundMe ready for my abugado, okay? If I have to drive down Sunset Boulevard and find a billboard to fight people suing me, y'all gotta help me out, okay? Give me my money for my abugado fund. So the sources for this are coming from Forbes article, "Why Food Blogger Angela Davis Belies Darius Williams Does Not Deserve A Platform", uh, Southern Girl, "Darius Cooks, Darius Crooks?", question mark, "Popular Food Personality, Excuse Me, Under Fire", um, Black Enterprise, "From Recipes to Receipts", "Darius Cooks, Williams Denies Claims That He Is A Crook", and then the state of Georgia, "Consumer Protection Division".

• 14:00Speaker 07

  Yes, and that is why we can legally call him a scammer because Georgia determined that.

• 14:04Laci Mosley?

  Georgia was like, no, but he do crime now.

• 14:10Laci Mosley?

  They said they know. So Angela is known as the Kitchenista, an American chef, food blogger, recipe developer, cookbook author. She's here, we've talked about this. She also created her blog, The Kitchenista Diaries, in 2012. We also know that, right? Um, she's appeared in news outlets like Huffington Post, uh, Hour Detroit, Food 52, the Washington Post. So like Angela's here and she has the things. She's a seasoned professional and the girls know. They know.

• 14:36Speaker 07

  I do my job.

• 14:37Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 14:38Speaker 07

  Some of us actually cook.

• 14:40Laci Mosley?

  So in 2014, and this is crazy because this is like a very interesting episode because I'm talking about you, but you're here. And so some of this sounds like it's not like you're here. But it says, "In 2014, Davis started seeing some of Darius Williams' videos circulating, like circulating around the internet. She had a Twitter conversation with a friend, a pastry chef, critiquing some of what she had seen, but never actually tagging Williams nor involving him directly." So do you remember what that is? Like what you saw that gave you pause?

• 15:11Speaker 07

  It was, well, we were looking at his blogs. I don't remember what specifically, like what video was going around, but it prompted us to look at his blogs. So we were kind of running through the recipes at that time. And I think my friend, it was the cupcakes that caught her eye because she's a pastry chef. And it was like a greasy cupcake liner. And so the, the beginning of the conversation started out, like she was explaining to me like how he could have done it differently. And then we just kind of went back and forth in a general sense about how like sloppy the work was. I remember going to like, I just browsed through some of his recipes and the instructions were so vague that it came across to me as, as lazy because I, you know, I was like a couple of years into my blog at that point

• 15:54Speaker 07

  and I know how much work it was just to explain a recipe in a way that somebody could really learn from it. And everything that he was putting out just seemed like the exact opposite of that.

• 16:04Laci Mosley?

  And I will say that I think he got away with that for so long because there was like a kitschiness to him. There's like a comedic aspect. So some, it's almost like those white women who make those videos where they make nachos on their counter and spaghetti on their counter. It was like clickbait. And so I think that he used that to his advantage. The issue is, is that he is really also trying to purport himself as a real chef and sell recipe books. So it's like, sis, which is.

• 16:33Speaker 07

  Right. I don't, I don't know that he realized that it was funny.

• 16:37Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 16:40Speaker 07

  I think he thought he was really doing the thing, you know? Like going back, because I watched, I went back to some of his oldest videos when he first started cooking. It was like 2008 and I found his Master Chef audition. He was taking himself seriously. He really should have just been a comedian from that point and it would have been great.

• 16:56Laci Mosley?

  I saw when you tweeted about that because wasn't he talking about some sashon or something in there?

• 17:01Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah. He was just like stuff falling out of the pantry and like he looked, it was like he was looking at stuff for the first time as he's doing his audition and talking about his secret ingredients. So, yeah, he wasn't taking himself seriously, but, but he, it's, it's just weird because all this time pretending to be a cook, he could have just learned how to cook.

• 17:20Laci Mosley?

  Right, like you, and that's the thing about scamming is like a lot of times people have skills, but they're just kind of lazy and don't want to hone them when they realize they don't have to. So that makes sense. And so when you had this conversation about the cupcakes, I guess, uh, he screenshotted it and posted to his Instagram and alluded to you not supporting black chefs.

• 17:43Speaker 07

  That's his, yeah, that's, his recollection is that he approached me, uh, I think, I think in his interview with, uh, with Larry Reed, he was, he was saying, "I approached her and said, you know, we should work together. There's not, there's not too many black people out there." But that's not actually, that's what, not what he did. Like when he screenshot it, he, he presented it to his audience that I was hating on him and this is why black, you know, I don't know why black cooks can't get along or black food blogger, something like that. And.

• 18:13Laci Mosley?

  Which is manipulative.

• 18:15Speaker 07

  Of course, of course. I mean, from the very beginning, this is what he does. Like he, he, you know, he hides his hand and, and likes to come off as if, um, he was the one being nice. And like, I can't imagine why anybody would, would make fun of me or hate on me. You know, and the whole while, he's like, he's harassing me. I had a much smaller audience at the time and my friend had an even smaller audience. So she was pretty taken aback by the harassment. Um, it wasn't completely new to me at that point. I had experienced a little bit of online abuse, but it was unexcusable, you know? It was like a whole week.

• 18:49Laci Mosley?

  Of course.

• 18:50Speaker 07

  It was the way that he presented it instead of just.

• 18:55Speaker 07

  I don't know, I I mean, he he really, he should have just taken the advice, to be honest.

• 18:59Laci Mosley?

  He went full Karen. He went full Central Park Karen. It was like, I'm being attacked, I'm being attacked, but was like, doing the, yeah, it's so.

• 19:07Speaker 07

  Yeah, poor Manny, like, these people are just making fun of me on the internet, yeah.

• 19:11Laci Mosley?

  Yes, exactly. So, let's get into his scams. We're starting with Soul Crab and Greens and Gravy. Soul Crab is one of several restaurants. The dairy is owned in Atlanta, Georgia. As more information started coming out regarding Darius, a former server from a now shuttered Soul Crab, gave her account a physical assault by him. And there are tweets that were posted to the page. In an exclusive interview with Blackwood Enterprise, William says the reason that Kiara didn't receive her money was because she never completed onboarding, despite being shorted on payroll. And this is an alleged common occurrence with a lot of his employees. And it's very cute to call it shorted on payroll.

• 19:54Laci Mosley?

  Nigga, you robbing me. I I'm doing work and I'm not getting currency for it. What's going on?

• 20:00Speaker 07

  Downplaying that. And it's been two years since the restaurant closed. Like, why, why is a server still looking for money?

• 20:07Laci Mosley?

  Also, how does someone not complete onboarding paperwork, but they working?

• 20:14Speaker 07

  Right. So, you didn't do your job, and now you're blaming the worker, if that's even true.

• 20:24Speaker 07

  Right.

• 20:24Laci Mosley?

  Well, you didn't sign here and initial here, so that's why we can't pay you, even though you've been working here for two years. Like, what?

• 20:30Speaker 07

  It just, it doesn't make any sense for it to have gone to that point where she was that upset. She never should have been

• 20:37Laci Mosley?

  The math ain't bad.

• 20:38Speaker 07

  Waiting for her chat. Of course she was upset.

• 20:41Laci Mosley?

  So he also denies the assault, saying that she began being irate with him. He says he reviewed the video footage with responding officers and admits, "So I did put my hands on her," this is a quote from Black Enterprise, "but I put both hands on her shoulders to kind of turn her so we could go discuss this outside." So you put your hands on her?

• 21:01Speaker 07

  Right, it's assault.

• 21:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like, that's, I think that's the definition.

• 21:05Speaker 07

  Right. And I would love to see the tape. I mean, I don't know why the tape hasn't surfaced yet. Her account is completely different than his.

• 21:13Laci Mosley?

  I didn't assault.

• 21:14Speaker 07

  I'm gonna believe her.

• 21:15Laci Mosley?

  Right. Also, that's like me being like, I get into a fistfight. I didn't assault her, I just massaged her, I socked her with my fist. What you mean?

• 21:22Speaker 07

  Walked her out outside the door, okay, right. So the two women that had to pry his hands off of her, we're just making that up too.

• 21:30Laci Mosley?

  I gave her a hug with my hands around her throat. What, what are you saying?

• 21:35Speaker 07

  Interaction. He's, yeah, he just, he lies. He lies about everything, but it was, it was just so disturbing that that he brushed it off. And then in another interview, just claimed to not even, um, know her name. It's just like, that's just so offensive to me that you, now you have somebody that came out and said, "You didn't pay me, you assaulted me," and you can't even bother to learn your employee's name?

• 21:55Laci Mosley?

  Right. And also, in the Black Enterprise article, he brought up his queerness, saying, you know, "I'm a gay man, like, how could I harm women?" And I was like, what, what'd that mean?

• 22:07Speaker 07

  Absolutely nothing to do. He's, he's been doing that a lot lately. Like, that's, that's the new deflection, is that, um, I'm a gay man, I, I couldn't possibly be harming women. It just doesn't make any sense.

• 22:16Laci Mosley?

  I'm gay, how could I be a criminal?

• 22:20Speaker 07

  Like, news to me. So, I don't know. That's, that's not gonna hold up very well in court, I'm guessing.

• 22:24Laci Mosley?

  Right. I didn't know that that's, I don't think you can be like, "Yeah, Your Honor."

• 22:31Speaker 07

  I don't even like women. How could I hurt, hurt them?

• 22:33Laci Mosley?

  "Your Honor, I engage in same-sex dating. How could I be a criminal? I'm too busy being gay to do crime."

• 22:42Speaker 07

  He's, um, what did he say in the, I was, because I was just watching it last night. I think it was the Larry Reed interview, and he says, he said that I, I must not have known that he's a, that he's a sissy. Like, he said that word. I mean, it's just, it's just crazy.

• 22:54Laci Mosley?

  What does that mean?

• 22:59Laci Mosley?

  "Your Honor, I couldn't have hurt that woman. I'm gay." I like, I, I just, the math ain't mathed, and that's, that's gonna be the through line for all of this, is that the math just will never math. So, Soul Crab, so, Darius's other restaurant, Greens and Gravy, shut down this past February without notice. He announced in an Instagram post that they were shuttering, but did not provide additional details. Later, he said it was due to his mental health. And I wanna bring this up because it seems like anything that is a struggle or a situation where you're marginalized, Darius likes to capitalize on that. You know, he did it when he posted you on his Instagram, it was like, "Black people, why can't we get along? Crabs in a barrel, also Soul Crab, my restaurant."

• 23:42Laci Mosley?

  And then he did it with being homosexual, like, "I couldn't hit a woman, I'm gay." Um, and then he shut down his restaurants and said, "I, I, I had to close my businesses because I'm depressed." And it's like,

• 23:55Speaker 07

  It brings out the pill bottles.

• 23:58Laci Mosley?

  Right. And it's like, also, I realized on your social media that he sent a lot of his fans after you attacking you for your mental health, trying to say that because you were exposing a criminal that you were mentally ill. First of all, those two things don't walk hand in hand. I suffer from depression and anxiety. That doesn't make me a bad person. It doesn't make me do bad things to people. Like, they're different. But he used an excuse of mental health and then tried to have people attack you saying that you were mentally ill.

• 24:31Speaker 07

  Yeah, he's, I mean, he's, it's, it's more deflection. See, I've always been open about my mental health. I talk about it all the time. I'm, I was diagnosed as bipolar when I'm twenty-five, when I was twenty-five, and I'm, I've always been open about it. It's just part of my life. And, uh, so the interesting thing is that he never, ever, ever talked about mental health until the restaurants. I went back and looked through his feed. It's not even mentioned, like, nothing about depression, nothing about therapy, nothing about mental health, right? And now, this is the reason. And, you know, everybody goes through what they go through. I'm not discrediting, I can't prove that he's lying. However,

• 25:07Speaker 07

  I, I, I do think it was a convenient time to now start talking about your mental health and put out pill bottles as props. I just, I think it's disgusting as somebody that actually goes through it. Um, because I don't know if you saw the, the, the latest, what I realized, after I've been tracking this for a month, and I started, I had never looked through his ebooks. He plagiarized his holiday ebook based on mine. I, I put out a ho, yeah. I put out a holiday, my first holiday ebook was in two thousand fifteen. It was a Thanksgiving book. And then I did a follow-up, two thousand sixteen, with a revised version. It was a full holiday menu. The concept was a full holiday menu in one book with grocery lists and, like, tips for holiday prep.

• 25:48Speaker 07

  Um, all my own photography, like, original recipes. I think it's about forty recipes. I start out with, like, an intro about family traditions and how much that means to me, and how I'm trying to preserve those traditions and, and learn how to cook so that I can put food on the table for my family. And I, I just, I talked about how important it was, like, from a very personal place. And it happened to be the book that I put out when I quit my job, like, that allowed me to continue my journey. Well, I didn't, I had never seen his content because I blocked him in two thousand fourteen. He put out a holiday book a year after I did. And I started going through it. I did a thread on Twitter. And there's just too many coincidences, I'm gonna call, like, for me to ignore.

• 26:31Speaker 07

  Right. Like, the whole concept rips off of my book down to, like, the, like, I'll give you an example, like, the type of recipes. I did the traditional, you know, like, turkey ham. And then I have alternatives. I did a, like, pistachio-crested salmon, and, um, there's a coffee-rubbed beef roast, and there's cornish hens. Well, guess what's in his book? Cornish hens, a beef roast, and con crested salmon.

• 26:58Laci Mosley?

  He changed the nut. At least he changed the nut up a little bit. He said, okay, she did. She did what that's all we can.

• 27:05Speaker 07

  He just switches up, like, one or two ingredients and then cuts out half of my instructions to make it like this sloppy, easy version of whatever I did. So I went through the whole book, and it's just, it's a lot of, it's a lot of shit like that. Even down to the intro, like, we're questioning if his grandmother even existed at this point, because none of the stories are adding up. Like, every in, every interview he does, he switches up the age that he was when he was cooking with her. He switches up, his grandmother's been everywhere from, like, Chicago to, to Mississippi to Kentucky now. Um, so what I realized, this is the crazy shit.

• 27:37Laci Mosley?

  College. I kept killing my one dead aunt, uh, to get out of finals, to get out of doing everything. I'd be like, "Oh, she done died again, y'all. Here, here's no bitch wearing." I moved the sunrise to sunset, oh, my dead aunt, so many times. Her sunset was in twenty, uh, twelve. It was also in twenty fifteen. It was.

• 27:59Speaker 07

  That's terrible.

• 28:01Speaker 07

  That I guess maybe that's what he's doing is like Pam's just been all like that whole book that he put out. Stories from my grandmother's kitchen, like all those quotes are made up. About Pam, like Pam, Pam didn't make avocado toast. His grandmother didn't make avocado toast, like she didn't make a shrimp and chorizo burger. Like, why is he lying on his grandmother?

• 28:21Laci Mosley?

  Why he lying on his grandma like that?

• 28:23Speaker 07

  Why would you do that?

• 28:24Laci Mosley?

  Here's a great grandma name too.

• 28:27Speaker 07

  And then he pretended to be me. So I think that's where like the mental health part comes up. I went through his old interviews and he had like different stories about. When he went to college, like first he said he had a biblical, he, he had a degree in biblical studies. Well, somebody went and contacted that college. They never heard of him. It was like Moody Bible Institute, but we got a letter back and they're saying, nope, never heard of him.

• 28:49Laci Mosley?

  Angela, I also want you to know that you might be Darius's grandma, like when he.

• 28:53Speaker 07

  Oh God, like that's probably the next iteration of the story. Um, so he, and then he, and then as, as it evolved, as his journey evolved, by the time you get to like 2014, which is when I started doing interviews. Now he's claiming to have a 14 year HR career. And he left a commercial real estate company to pursue. Cookbooks and catering. Well, guess what I was doing? I was working at a commercial construction company and I had a 10 year accounting career, like I, like this is. It's like single white female, like his whole story shifted to look like mine. So he, I had him blocked and I'm not realizing that he's copying my books and he's copying my actual story.

• 29:36Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 29:37Speaker 07

  Like my life story. And I think it, the, the mental health was just like an extension of that. Because a year prior, I had talked openly about having like a mental health crisis. And, and now conveniently. Hear various.

• 29:51Laci Mosley?

  Listen.

• 29:52Speaker 07

  It's, it's like, what's next? You know?

• 29:54Laci Mosley?

  Being, being alive and being yourself is hard, you know, if you find somebody who's just got everything you want, maybe you just be them.

• 30:02Speaker 07

  I, I, I was so, it's like the only thing he couldn't plagiarize was my children. And then I went back and. In the book, in the ebook, he put, he see, copied tips that like don't actually fit into his book. He copied tips for recipes he didn't even have. So he, so he copied a tip about letting your kids set the table. Like he actually put that in his book, just find a kid to set the table.

• 30:23Laci Mosley?

  Find a kid.

• 30:25Speaker 07

  Kid.

• 30:25Laci Mosley?

  He don't have kids. You know, Darius is probably sitting there like, damn, okay, this has been working thus far. I, she's my fake grandma. I'm stealing all these quotes. I'm stealing these recipes. Oh damn, she got kids. I don't got kids. Okay, how can I, how can I work this out? Um, find a child.

• 30:42Speaker 07

  Maybe he'll adopt this year.

• 30:44Laci Mosley?

  Find a child to set your table, whether you have them or not, like.

• 30:49Speaker 07

  Just, just find a random kid and just ask him to set him.

• 30:52Laci Mosley?

  Go outside on the street and find a child to set your table. Amen. You know, that's hilarious. I'm sorry. Like what? It's insane. So there are more issues at his restaurants than just disgruntled employees, according to a former kitchen manager who spoke with Black Enterprise. And so this is a quote, and so when the people, health inspectors came in, they failed it. His license wasn't up to par. He owed almost $25,000 to the light department. So when they handed me the letter saying that lights were getting ready to be cut off. $25,000 or we're cutting off the light, basically. Uh, I told my crew, go home, cut them off.

• 31:31Speaker 07

  A whole millionaire with his lights getting turned off.

• 31:34Laci Mosley?

  Right. A whole millionaire, but you can't, we can't have no fluorescents. We can't.

• 31:39Speaker 07

  Not even a flashlight, not even a candle.

• 31:41Laci Mosley?

  Right, like what's, what's going on? But listen, Darius is like, you don't need to see the food.

• 31:47Speaker 07

  Probably, probably for good reason. It's so you couldn't see the rats and the roaches.

• 31:51Laci Mosley?

  Right. He was like, look, I'm giving vibes. Okay. Y'all come in here and get vibes. Y'all need to see stuff. What do you need to see? Sit down.

• 31:59Speaker 07

  He was setting the scene.

• 32:00Laci Mosley?

  Right. Additionally, when the restaurant shut down, there were problems regarding final checks. Uh, this is another quote from Black Enterprise, uh, from someone who was employed. You left them people with no paychecks for months. It took them threatening to sue you before you even gave them an allowance because it wasn't their full paycheck. So you just gave them whatever the hell you wanted to give them. To hell with my payroll, hell with everything. Right before Darius.

• 32:25Speaker 07

  That's shameful.

• 32:26Laci Mosley?

  It's shameful. You have to pay people what you owe them, like.

• 32:29Speaker 07

  And this is a pandemic, we're, this is in the, into the pandemic. This is 2020.

• 32:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Wow. Oh, then that's even, that's way worse. So right before Darius shut down Greens and Gravy and Soul Crab, he had just settled with the Georgia Department of Law Consumer Protection Division. As his company, Above 701, allegedly conducted a legal credit repair. Yeah.

• 32:54Speaker 07

  I mean, not right there. He started this in 2016. It was a different company name when he started it before it switched to Above 701. I just want to know. Why nobody thought that there was something wrong with a food blogger just popping up with a credit repair business out of nowhere?

• 33:10Laci Mosley?

  Right. Those, that the math ain't math in there. If he was like an accountant or worked in finance, perhaps that could be the next jump. But that's like me going from being a comedian to be like, hey y'all, I'm selling door to door heart monitors. Y'all trying to get your heart monitored at all? Like, it's like, where, where did that come from?

• 33:29Speaker 07

  Especially considering like his whole past is all, it's like bankruptcies, evictions, lawsuits. Like, how do you have all that in your past and then you pop up and decide I'm going to fix everybody's credit?

• 33:41Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 33:41Speaker 07

  No, no finance background whatsoever.

• 33:44Laci Mosley?

  So Above 701's byline was, because you can't be fly with bad credit. Okay.

• 33:52Laci Mosley?

  So.

• 33:52Speaker 07

  If he's praying on black people, like it's just, it's funny, like the ads are funny in the sense that it's, they're so terrible. But what he's doing is scamming the same people that he claims to, to. That support him, you know?

• 34:06Laci Mosley?

  Right. Southern black people seem to be also.

• 34:09Speaker 07

  Black women.

• 34:10Laci Mosley?

  Black women and people with religious backgrounds. He's like, uh, do you want to get your credit fixed? You trying to get a new credit card? Skr skr. Like, he's like all those ads that whenever I go to Atlanta, um, Atlanta has the most beautiful black radio ads that are so deeply black and hilarious. That I know a white person wrote them.

• 34:34Speaker 07

  That's how he, right, you know what? That's how he writes. He writes like he's just like. Playing an African American soul food cook.

• 34:40Laci Mosley?

  Right. One of my favorite commercials when I went to Atlanta was 1-800-injured and it was like. 1-800-injured. It was like.

• 34:51Laci Mosley?

  I was just driving my business, or it was like, I was just driving, minding my business, somebody got behind me. Skr skr, my neck hurt, my back too, and I had to call Bethune. I still remember it. You gotta call Bethune.

• 35:03Speaker 07

  That's his credit commercials. And it's all, it's just all about like what, fixing your credit so that you can buy something. So even the ads. Or it's just like, you see what the motivation is. It's not about getting your life together. It's about like. Let me like illegally fix your credit so that you can get approved for this car or this house.

• 35:20Laci Mosley?

  So that you can be fly and stunt on people with the same bad credit. And so he did this. Uh, as long as you paid him a monthly fee, he said that he would fix your credit. This is an illegal practice in Georgia. In December 2019, the state of Georgia announced that a hundred forty-five thousand, seven hundred fifty dollars settlement with Above 701 and Williams was happening. So they were like, you're doing crime and we, we see it. And, uh, you need to pay us and then get out the game. So in addition to violating the Georgia Fair Business Practices Act, the set, the state states that, um. The company accepted payment before services were provided and were misleading about the services that it could provide.

• 36:01Laci Mosley?

  There's also numerous unaddressed complaints in the company's Better Business Bureau page. Williams says that he refuses to address these complaints. He also refuses to provide Better Business Bureau with physical addresses for his businesses. And set up accounts so that the Better Business Bureau is unable to address concerns. So not only he say like, I'm not going to respond to nothing on the Better Business Bureau. Also like. They were like, Darius, where's your business address? And he was like, my address is a vibe, you know, it's a feeling.

• 36:33Speaker 07

  So, so are his business licenses.

• 36:36Speaker 07

  It's just, it's just vibes and credit card charges.

• 36:39Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, and we're looking at the Better Business Bureau right now and they've got some complaints up here. So we're going to read one of these complaints here from the Better Business Bureau that are on this page currently.

• 36:51Speaker 07

  He also deflects by kind of focusing on Georgia, but. That law about not accepting payment upfront for credit repair, that's a federal law. It's actually illegal everywhere.

• 37:02Laci Mosley?

  He was just trying to act like Georgia was doing too much, but it's like, this is a crime.

• 37:07Speaker 07

  Georgia was hating on him too.

• 37:08Laci Mosley?

  And also that kind of feeds into the sympathy and the manipulation too, because there are some laws in Georgia that are deeply unfair, especially when it comes to marijuana and black folks. So there are some laws in Georgia that actually are bad. So he's like, no.

• 37:20Speaker 07

  That's his next scam, by the way.

• 37:21Laci Mosley?

  Right. Oh, Lord, no.

• 37:23Speaker 07

  He's about to start selling, um, like infused products or something. And like, he doesn't even understand what a strain is, so.

• 37:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Lord Jesus. This is not what we need. Nobody needs this. No one needs this.

• 37:34Speaker 07

  Nobody needs, nobody needs those kind of edibles.

• 37:37Laci Mosley?

  So one of his complaints on the Better Business Bureau website is, "I ordered a pound cake in early April and I have not received it yet." This complaint comes from May 20th, 2021. They said they ordered the pound cake in early April.

• 37:55Speaker 07

  Weeks. They're taking weeks in the mail.

• 37:57Laci Mosley?

  "I've tried contacting Carolina Pound Cake twice, May 9th and May 16th by email, and they have not responded. I would like a full refund of $50, the price of the cake." Like, and the next one, "I placed an order to Pound Cake Carolina websites, April 25th, 2021. The website says that it should take five to eight business days and the cake will be baked and shipped and I haven't gotten it." Like the same thing. There's a lot of the same complaints on there. Um, which brings us to Carolina Pound Cakes. In the comments of a post from your, uh, from you, Angela Davis, "With Kiara's statement, who was one of the alleged former bakers, uh, with Carolina Pound Cakes,

• 38:39Laci Mosley?

  details her experience working in poor conditions and being paid pities to bake for Carolina Pound Cakes." There are also numerous complaints on the website's Better Business page that we just read about not getting cakes or refunds. Customers were told they were backed up, hence the website being taken down. However, on July 19th, 2021, the company was dissolved."

• 38:58Speaker 07

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:59Laci Mosley?

  And it-

• 38:59Speaker 07

  No business license. Here's the thing though, even before it was dissolved, that address that was on the website was just a P O box. So nobody knew where the actual bakery was and there were no health inspections for wherever this place was that he was baking. And so the state caught up with him. So they definitely know, you know, they shut it down. Um, but he's still claiming to be catching up on orders. So who knows where these cakes are actually being made and why they're taking two weeks to, to, you know,

• 39:30Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 39:30Speaker 07

  get to people.

• 39:31Laci Mosley?

  That's an excellent scam tactic though. I can't lie to never have a real physical address. I kind of want to do that. It's, it's actually genius.

• 39:42Speaker 07

  It seems to be working for him. It's not the first time.

• 39:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, which it, it, because he had no physical address and they couldn't do health inspections. Like you said, Angela, it was against the law because that's a requirement for shipping food across state lines. It's that you have to have a health inspection.

• 39:59Speaker 07

  Because it's a food safety issue. Like, I think that's serious that he's just, he's sending out cakes that are not being wrapped properly. They're taking a couple of weeks in the mail and apparently his followers are still eating them when they get them.

• 40:13Laci Mosley?

  Yikes. And I saw pictures on Twitter of someone who had cakes allegedly that were from his company and they were moldy when they got them. They were covered in mold.

• 40:23Speaker 07

  One of, I saw one that had bugs in it. Cause it, yeah, like they look like little black ants or something. I don't know.

• 40:30Laci Mosley?

  And food, you know, I think sometimes we don't put enough respect on food and people who make food and people who are chefs, because food is one, something essential that we all need in our lives. But food brings people together. It reminds people of things. It nourishes their souls, their minds, their bodies. Uh, uh, you should be respectful. There should be amount of grace and respect that you have when you're making food for people and-

• 40:54Speaker 07

  Absolutely. And you should care. You should care if, if it's safe for them to eat. Like that's just their minimum is that you care enough that it's safe. You know, that you're not going to kill somebody by sending them a cake.

• 41:05Laci Mosley?

  The bar is on the floor, especially in America, because our food, half of it ain't food.

• 41:12Speaker 07

  Well, can we talk about like the fact that it's a $50 pound cake? First of all, I mean-

• 41:16Laci Mosley?

  $50?

• 41:18Speaker 07

  $50?

• 41:21Speaker 07

  Like what kind of pound cake is this?

• 41:23Laci Mosley?

  Also-

• 41:24Speaker 07

  Would you take the utmost care shipping a $50 pound cake?

• 41:27Laci Mosley?

  I was about to say, if it's $50, it should be FedEx next day, beautifully decorated, plated. Like, you should have to sign for it. Like $50 and you're just throwing this shit in, in, in a fucking next day airbox and, and-

• 41:40Speaker 07

  That is, like, he's doing like a flat rate shipping box and like, just like a prayer and like, I, I, it'll get there when it gets there.

• 41:47Laci Mosley?

  Five to eight days? What that mean? How long is it traveling during the five to eight? Cause I really needed to just travel one day.

• 41:56Speaker 07

  That's, he's just, I don't know. I, I, I just, I don't understand it. I don't understand how this has been going on for a year and a half and people are just now asking like, what's going on with the cakes?

• 42:05Laci Mosley?

  I don't want no cake that's been percolating for five to eight days. I don't want it marinated. I don't want a fermented cake. Like, and that man loves to put Hennessy in things, so.

• 42:15Speaker 07

  Oh, right, right. Maybe, maybe that's the disinfect, maybe that's what stops the, uh, maybe he soaks them in Hennessy so that they don't grow mold.

• 42:24Laci Mosley?

  Now, listen, Hennessy is very strong. I've drank some Hen-

• 42:29Laci Mosley?

  During COVID, there was a, some place, some country that was giving Hennessy and masks to people. And I said, that might be the cure because I, I never, if you want a new throat, if you want to just refresh your throat.

• 42:41Speaker 07

  The plan.

• 42:42Laci Mosley?

  Drink some Hennessy.

• 42:44Speaker 07

  At his restaurants, he had issues with food safety too. Like those health inspections were terrible. The one in Chicago, it was like the food wasn't even being stored at the right temperature. So maybe that's, maybe that's the plan is like, you just have enough alcohol and nobody gets sick.

• 42:57Laci Mosley?

  Right. He said, "Look, we ain't got no lights. We ain't got no health inspections, but we do have is a lot of Hennessy."

• 43:06Laci Mosley?

  Y'all gonna be good. Y'all don't need to see shit. It's fine if you have to eat bugs. We have Hennessy. So Sonny Anderson and Fresh Go. Like guys, do you see what's happening? Like, are you listening to how we are just moving from?

• 43:21Speaker 07

  It's a lot. It's a lot. Like this, so this goes back to Chicago. Chicago is when the baby scammer was in Chicago. This is, these are the baby scams. He had a whole bunch of scams in Chicago.

• 43:33Laci Mosley?

  That's cute. I literally just flew back from Chicago. I think it's very cute, skinny, very ripe, very ripe for scams. I would love to go back and rob people. Robbery!

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• 45:37Laci Mosley?

  And fraud! So, celebrity chef and Food Network star Sonny Anderson invited Darius onto her show, Cooking for Real, for two episodes. According to Anderson, while working together, Darius asked her to invest in his grocery delivery business in Chicago, "Fresh to Go," or "Fresh Go." She declined, but after the show aired, he started receiving complaints about the business. Because of his appearance on the show, people assumed they worked together and that you'd be able to contact Williams. That's how you know that you really is some crime. When people see you with somebody else and they're like, well, maybe this is how I can get my money back. I'll never forget, um, Rush Cards. So Russell Simmons had this card-

• 46:20Speaker 07

  I remember.

• 46:21Laci Mosley?

  prepaid debit card that you could have your checks put on from work called Rush Cards. And then, uh, his ex-wife also had like the Baby Fat Rush Card. Like they had these little, you know, cards for people who don't have bank accounts. And one day, I guess, all the money got froze and nobody could get their checks from work. No one could get their money off of the card. And it got so bad that Angela Simmons had, like Angela would post a photo like, "Out at the beach, cheeks out, sun's out, buns out." And people were in the comments like, "Sis, can you tell your dad to run us our money? Where is our fucking money?"

• 46:56Speaker 07

  Can you blame them though? That's crazy. My last really bad date was, I mean, it tells you how long ago this was. The guy pulled out a Rush Card. But he couldn't, he couldn't pay for the whole-

• 47:09Laci Mosley?

  Oh my God, no. Not the rush card on the day.

• 47:13Speaker 07

  Pay for the whole, like, we sit down and he starts, I could tell from the beginning, because he's just ordering water. And he's like, I'm, I'm not that hungry. He's just picking something off an appetizer. And I, I already peed games in the beginning, so I'm ordering everything, because I knew I was gonna end up paying for my shit anyways. So, I, you know, I ate everything I wanted to. This was like, it was like a Mediterranean restaurant.

• 47:33Laci Mosley?

  He was like, they got free bread here. They got free bread, that's all we need.

• 47:37Speaker 07

  I think he got some hummus and some water and, uh, the check comes. And he goes, well, I only got thirty dollars left on my card. And he puts the card down as a rush card. So that's when I just decided that dating might not be for me anymore.

• 47:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh no, not the rush card.

• 47:52Speaker 07

  The rush card. So I, I, I told the server, I said, put thirty on it. And then I paid for the rest of my meal. I took everything off of that card.

• 47:59Laci Mosley?

  Angela, you petty. Not put thirty on it. He was like, no, I'm gonna take your thirty dollars. Like, I'm gonna take it, and then I'm gonna pay for the rest, and I'm never gonna see you again. I love this for you. And for us, but yeah, so rush card wasn't rushing nobody they coins. They were very actually slow and not fast, and did not rush to pay people money. So it's just funny to me because like, the fact that Angela, or Sunny Anderson, rather, you know, had a mild association with this man. And then people were like, this is how we get our money back.

• 48:27Speaker 07

  They were desperate. If you go back and look, like, you can still, if you search for Fresh Go on, um, on Twitter, under the old handle, you could see some of the, the people are still, like, back then, this was like twenty twelve. They're just tweeting into the void, like, Darius ran off their, you know, left with their money. And they were trying to figure out how to find him. And that they were just asking, like, it was the beginnings of, so is this guy a scammer? Because he appears to have run off with our money.

• 48:51Laci Mosley?

  Right. And Anderson, Anderson said, I got messages on Twitter about Fresh Go, or Fresh To Go. And there were complaints that people had given their credit card information, but no delivery. They reached out to me because he was on my show. I called him to ask what was going on, and he hung up. I called back and he never picked up again.

• 49:10Speaker 07

  That's his MO. That's, that's when everything was, in Chicago, was kinda coming ahead. So Fresh Go was, was, um, people realized that there was no actual grocery delivery service. They were just getting charged for nothing. And then he had another scam going. He had started a fake company.

• 49:27Laci Mosley?

  Vibes, like the vibe of groceries.

• 49:29Speaker 07

  Right, just vibes. Um, he started a cup, he was gonna make a cupcake mix. Like, remember, he had a bakery, so he had a cupcake gallery. That was his business. And then he started this company. He was gonna sell dry cupcake mix, like a box mix where you could call, this is, this is his plan. A one eight hundred number to order this cupcake mix, because that's how we order cupcake mix, right?

• 49:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, sure.

• 49:52Speaker 07

  Well, it never actually existed, but he had people invest in it. He sent out like this whole investment proposal. And people invested, and then he just left town. And like, the company never actually existed. Like, they bought shares. Like, he sold one percent shares for two thousand dollars. For shares, like, this is like an actual investment, like, it, like, he has, like, the numbers laid out, like, I'm gonna have one point two million in revenue. And you're, if you buy one percent share for two thousand dollars, you'll be set for life. He's telling people they can retire off of this.

• 50:23Laci Mosley?

  Imagine you show up to the stock market, exchange of New York, and it's Darius ringing the bell.

• 50:32Laci Mosley?

  So I got shares. Come on, y'all, invent. And this is like high level scammer. You do something, and then you act like, oh, I don't know what went wrong, or I'm not really like, good at that, oops. And then you leave town, or you leave whatever that venture is, and you just never, that's how you pivot. It's just by acting dumb.

• 50:51Speaker 07

  Change your Twitter handle, delete your blog, and, and move on. That's what he used to do. But I guess he just forgot that people could still pull up the archives.

• 50:58Laci Mosley?

  Right, the internet is forever. So Darius denies, he not only ever, like, so he denies that he ever owned Fresh To Go, or Fresh Go. And he says he knows nothing about it. When Black Enterprise asked directly, do you know anything about this Fresh Go being associated with you? He says, nothing. Really, that's what I'm saying. That's why I would love to know from Sunny what I ever did to her. He said, I ain't never even had, knew nothing about no, uh, Fresh Go. I ain't never even, fresh what? And, and look, Darius.

• 51:30Speaker 07

  About it.

• 51:30Laci Mosley?

  He don't cook with fresh vegetables, so he, you know, you know, he loves a powdered veggie.

• 51:36Speaker 07

  Wasn't his lane from the beginning. Like, he took the wrong lane. Yeah, he tweeted about it. He had a whole nother, um, a whole nother state company called Local, Local Hala. So he has a website, not a website, a Twitter page for that. And the only company that that page advertised was Fresh Go.

• 51:54Laci Mosley?

  And we have a tweet from January twenty twelve of Darius Williams saying, it's a, in all caps, great day to shop Fresh Go. Click today, grocery delivery tomorrow. Then he puts the website, freshgonow.com. Now, look, if he had just denied owning Fresh Go, maybe this tweet is fine, and he's just advertising for something. But he said, Fresh Go, who is that? I don't know her. He said he never heard of the girl. He said he never met her.

• 52:28Speaker 07

  Wouldn't you at least delete your tweets? Like, by now, wouldn't you have deleted your tweets? Because he, like, his tweets are still there.

• 52:36Laci Mosley?

  He's trolling us. He is trolling us.

• 52:40Laci Mosley?

  This is so sloppy. So, you know, Darius's Twitter, he's promoting Fresh Go. Uh, there's a one star review from Yelp that says, do not support. This guy owns Fresh Go, and he initiated hundreds of fraudulent charges on people's credit cards. He is a thief. He charged mine ninety eight dollars and thirty four cents twice. Damn, they got the real, like, not the thirty four cents, okay?

• 53:03Speaker 07

  The exact amount.

• 53:04Laci Mosley?

  I had to get the bank to reverse it twice. No one can find him. He doesn't answer his phone or emails.

• 53:11Speaker 07

  He even set up a fake Groupon deal for a fake company. Like, that's how far the scam went. The whole, the website is what kills me, though.

• 53:19Laci Mosley?

  And so, we have a screenshot of the Fresh To Go website right here. Um, we'll post all of this. Damn, this is gonna be a long, uh, swipey post for you guys on Instagram. But, um, so, the now deleted Fresh Go website, we're looking at it right now with a single blog post, a recipe, just one blog post, for green beans with tomato walnut jam. The image is gone, but a link to now deleted post on Darius's site, everydaycooking.com. Around the same time, there's an image of green beans with tomato walnut jam that was posted to Darius's Facebook. And now we're looking at the green beans and the tomato walnut jam. He also knows how to, like, say words that are very titillating for people who like to cook, or wanna cook well, or wanna learn, like jam, walnut jam.

• 54:04Speaker 07

  Aren't those pecans?

• 54:05Laci Mosley?

  Yes, they are pecans. They're not walnuts.

• 54:10Speaker 07

  Those are not walnuts.

• 54:11Laci Mosley?

  Since where are the walnuts?

• 54:16Speaker 07

  He can't even lie, right?

• 54:18Laci Mosley?

  How you gonna lie to my face like this? I have eyes, Darius. I don't see no, not, not a, nary a walnut.

• 54:24Speaker 07

  He definitely called it walnuts. Wow, wow.

• 54:28Laci Mosley?

  This is, and I don't even, you never even know if it's his photo. This feels like something he actually made.

• 54:33Speaker 07

  I mean, this looks pretty bad. It's probably, there's just, there's levels to this, though. It's like, you lie about the food, and the food is also a cover for the scam.

• 54:42Laci Mosley?

  Right. The scam is that he's not a chef, and never probably has wanted to be. This is just a scam, so he can keep him in crime.

• 54:49Speaker 07

  So he can still be running people's credit cards. So he was also, like, he even created like a fake payroll company around this time.

• 54:57Laci Mosley?

  Child.

• 54:58Speaker 07

  And then when you open it up, it goes to his address. Like, he, like, there's a Yelp page for this fake payroll company that is on his resume, and then you go look it up. It's, it was his apartment.

• 55:07Laci Mosley?

  Bruh, Darius is the hardest working man in crime, okay?

• 55:12Laci Mosley?

  We is doing his ten thousand hours. Doing his ten thousand hours. So stolen recipes, because Darius cooks, can't actually cook. Many of Darius's recipes are more of an assembly of pre-made store-bought ingredients, rather than recipes for ingredients from scratch. This includes sauces for his jerk chicken and barbecue wings, as well as pizza dough. Most of his recipes just also don't work. Um, we link to one of your threads about Darius's keto book.

• 55:44Laci Mosley?

  And then there's an Instagram reel of endless sodium laden seasonings.

• 55:50Speaker 07

  Oh yeah, his, his catfish seasoning.

• 55:52Laci Mosley?

  When I saw that, I like wanted to pass out. He put so much salt.

• 55:59Speaker 07

  Well, somebody would actually pass out if they ate that. I sent it to my dad. My dad had a heart attack a few years ago. And I remember just how hard it was the first couple of years to get to understand like what he could tolerate with sodium. And we had to be super careful about everything. And it's, it's serious. Like if he would have one day where he ate out, you know, like, you know, there's so much sodium when you eat out. Like, so if he, if we had a holiday or he was eating outside of the home and he overdid it, he would be in bed for a couple of days. Like it would trigger like his, he had congestive heart failure. He would get fluid. Um, he's dealt with gout, like, and this is not uncommon in our community, you know? Like there's so many of our, of our families that are like have heart issues or high blood pressure.

• 56:44Speaker 07

  So for him to be using more than a week's worth of sodium,

• 56:49Speaker 07

  like just so casually and act like it's, it's not a big, like this was a big deal to me.

• 56:53Laci Mosley?

  And it's, it's so deeply dangerous. You hit the nail on the head because his audience is us, is black folks. We're already predisposed to having high blood pressure. Most of us do, uh, like, you know, uh, we already are predisposed to having way more stress just for simply being alive. Like, so it's a dangerous combination. And, and when I saw that video, I was like, this man must be joking. There's no way he's gonna eat this.

• 57:18Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 57:20Speaker 07

  And I, and I calculated it, like it, it had to be over a week's worth of sodium in that one bowl. And it was three portions of catfish, according to him. It was, it was just, it's insane.

• 57:32Laci Mosley?

  So of what's left, many of his recipes are stolen. He copied and pasted Tasty French's omelet recipe. We have a picture of that. Mandy Lee's chorizo and shrimp burger. This one, you can Google image the chorizo and shrimp burger.

• 57:46Speaker 07

  That one bothered me because I'm such, I was such a fan of, of that blogger back, back in the day. Like that was her first, um, recipe that I remember circulating. Yeah. It like, it was such a cool photo. Like I just loved the photo and it, it always caught my eye. And people started to copy it and he was one of them. So it was one of the first things that stood out to me. Like you didn't come up with this. But what he does is like, he'll take something, if you go to her blog, she, her whole process, I mean, it's, it's like homemade bun, homemade chorizo patty. And, and he just does like the easiest thing that he could do to put a recipe on the page. It's like, it's like you're erasing and devaluing an actual recipe developer's work.

• 58:29Laci Mosley?

  Which is so disrespectful. And so we're gonna end Darius's saga here with Darius Williams harassment of black women. Why we're here. When conflict arose online again between Angela Davis, you and Williams, Williams launched his own campaign of harassment against Angela. Um, he used Dave's trademark name Kitchenista as a promo code to sell his books. And I saw that tweet, use the code Kitchenista. He also posted a 10 minute long video detailing how he was making money with the conflict from which he earned ad and sponsor revenue. So he says.

• 59:05Speaker 07

  So he says allegedly, which those numbers don't line up either.

• 59:09Laci Mosley?

  I mean, has, uh, we, that's the whole title of the episode. The math is never gonna math. He also, so he also on his Twitter and Instagram feeds are, there's like unending snide remarks directed against you, Angela. Um, this is one quote from you. He went on live and made fun of me saying that I was broke. I'm not a millionaire like him. He said that my countertops are formica, uh, formica, rather. They're not, not that it matters. He said something about how the only thing I cook with is duck fat. It was just really petty. Darius, you ain't ever cooked with a fresh vegetable. Can we speak on that?

• 59:47Speaker 07

  Right.

• 59:49Laci Mosley?

  Like I've never seen actual garlic.

• 59:53Speaker 07

  He drowns his food in like olive oil and, and soggy bacon. And has the nerve to talk about duck fat. Like try some duck fat. Maybe it'll be an improvement.

• 1:00:05Laci Mosley?

  He probably just mad he don't know where to get it.

• 1:00:07Speaker 07

  He knows where to get it. Cause he stalks my feeds. The funny thing is now like everything in hindsight, realizing that he's acting like he doesn't know who I am. Making fun of the way I cook, when he's been stalking my feeds and copying my recipes for seven years.

• 1:00:19Laci Mosley?

  Right. He knows, just like he don't know about Fresh Go. He said, you don't know.

• 1:00:23Speaker 07

  He just can't get away with using it. He can't get away with using duck fat because everybody would know who he took it from.

• 1:00:28Laci Mosley?

  Mm hmm. And Darius justifies much of his behavior and denies that he's a bully because he is gay. Again.

• 1:00:35Speaker 07

  Again.

• 1:00:36Laci Mosley?

  End quotes, he says, I think what's happening is, is the people may not be familiar with my brand because of some of the hate mail I'm getting, you know? Stop abusing black women. Keep your hands off black women. And I'm openly gay, but I don't come across as gay. And what a roller coaster of a sentence.

• 1:00:54Speaker 07

  Right.

• 1:00:54Laci Mosley?

  They said, keep your hands off black women. And he said, but I'm gay though. Like, what do you mean?

• 1:01:02Speaker 07

  How can I harm black women? I'm gay. Like as he's actively harassing me and then denying that he's a bully.

• 1:01:10Laci Mosley?

  And trigger warning, we're gonna look at some tweets that are, um, you know, murder assault. Like if you want me to skip ahead a couple of minutes, I'll put a note in the episode here. But so this is a tweet from Darius Williams. Just saw a woman jogging at this hour alone. And they wonder how they come up missing and dead. One thing the Bible always said, you can't rape the willing. What?

• 1:01:33Speaker 07

  He's disgusting.

• 1:01:35Laci Mosley?

  That's it. I must tell the truth. Bill Cosby rapes me too! Exclamation point. And he really thinks he's a comedian. Um, wow.

• 1:01:45Speaker 07

  And he has no remorse. Like I, I was just, I was watching an interview last night and he's laughing about all of this and twisting it into like, I can't believe they would accuse me of rape. Well, first of all, nobody accused him of rape, but those tweets did come up. He, he was being accused of being a rape apologist. Maybe he doesn't know the difference. Um, as somebody, as a survivor, I don't, I don't think this is funny. Like I, I just, I can't believe that one, he would leave those tweets up this far into his career.

• 1:02:14Laci Mosley?

  You idiot.

• 1:02:15Speaker 07

  And then when they get brought up to not address it and just come out and say, even if it was ignorant, just to even, to just to say, this is not, these, this, this doesn't represent how I really feel. You know, apologize and, and this is how I'm trying to do right going forward. None of that happened.

• 1:02:36Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:02:36Speaker 07

  He, he just, he twisted it into like, uh, into a story, a sideshow about, I can't believe they would accuse me of rape. Like, and then laughing about it, but that's not what anybody said. So when he does that, then he's not actually addressing what we are talking about. You know, it's like Trump. It's like just deflect and deny and fake news. And then everybody else will forget what we were actually talking about.

• 1:02:58Laci Mosley?

  That's literally what I was gonna say is he's deflecting just like Trump in this way of like, oh, that was a joke. Oh, that's so weird. I'm laughing at it. Get over it. Move on. Like, and it's actually a tactic that works. Like, uh, abusers use that tactic all the time. Like to diminish how you feel about something, to gaslight you, make you think that it never happened or it wasn't real or they were joking. You know, and he's very good at that sadly. And people are believing it. When Southern Grit published an article about Darius by journalist Deborah Freeman, his fans went after her with aggression. The harassment rose to death threats and Southern Grit's editor in chief had to submit a video statement announcing his support of her.

• 1:03:39Laci Mosley?

  Darius purposely never denounced the threats, stating that he never threatened anyone. So he was just trying to act like, look, it's just, it's just like what Trump did with all the racist people who voted for him. He was like, the only thing that ever made Trump mad about his supporters was, is that they were poor. He did not like the girls.

• 1:03:59Speaker 07

  Like the insurrection, he like.

• 1:04:01Laci Mosley?

  He said, oh, y'all look so ghetto. Y'all couldn't come through the Capitol in suits, bitch. Y'all couldn't go to Men's Warehouse and like the way you look, hoe. You gonna come over here wearing all this crazy war paint and shit. Ugh, the ghetto. Ugh.

• 1:04:15Speaker 07

  So yeah, like he's if if you could take Trump and turn him into a black food blogger and cross him with Shaun King.

• 1:04:22Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Oh, my God. It's all of those things because this did remind me so much of Shaun King during this episode of just going from grift to grift and acting like, oops, didn't I rob you? Bye.

• 1:04:32Speaker 07

  Shaun Shaun King is Shaun King's grifts with like Trump's lies and Tyler Perry's, you know, all in one house operation. Like, it's just like, it's like the three of those people combined and that's Darius, Trump, Shaun King, and Tyler Perry.

• 1:04:48Laci Mosley?

  It's pretty iconic. I think that if he hears this, he might be deeply flattered by that. And that's not what we mean. It's not a compliment.

• 1:04:55Speaker 07

  It's not a compliment at all. Yeah, it's just, I don't know, it's just crazy. Like, when you're like, if you're looking at something on paper and like, nobody asks him direct questions. So he's getting away with this because he's not, he's not really being interviewed by anybody that's going to hold him accountable. Like, he can go on live and just create his alternative version of reality in his little bubble. But everybody else is looking through receipts, like, there's just too many of them adding up.

• 1:05:21Laci Mosley?

  They're everywhere and he doesn't care. It's it's unhinged in a way that I look and it's like a train, it's like a, you know, like a, a car crash or a train wreck where I just can't look away from this man and his grifts. And he's still going, y'all. He ain't in nobody's jail. He ain't in nobody's custody. And, you know, but he's gonna keep going, uh, forever. Hopefully not forever.

• 1:05:47Speaker 07

  Hopefully not.

• 1:05:48Laci Mosley?

  Angela, you've done some great work really exposing this and stopping the harm and hopefully making people aware of something so that he can stop harming folks when they're aware that he is a criminal. So thank you for your time and your energy, um, doing the right thing. And I know that that's been hard because people are also retaliating against you and you're dealing with a lot and you don't deserve that. You're a queen, you're an icon. I was so excited to talk to you. This has been so fantastic. Um, but we're about to get to the saddest part of the show, which is where I have to let Angela go. And we'll be right back. And we're back after some non-scam advertisements. And this is just Scammer of the Week where we highlight honorary charlatan or maybe they're just like a piece of shit like Darius,

• 1:06:32Laci Mosley?

  who knows. Um, so today we're talking about Fisher Industries owner Tommy Fisher is out of $30 million after building a three mile section of a border wall and ending up with no buyers. In 2019, We Built the Wall, a nonprofit cofounded by Steve Bannon, gave Fisher $8.4 million to build two sections of a wall along the New Mexico and Texas borders. But the cost ballooned to $30 million and they only gave him 8.4. Fisher said this would be really fun. It would be a project that would be remembered like the Hoover Dam. That's what he thought he was getting involved in. He was making a racism wall and thought it was the Hoover Dam.

• 1:07:08Speaker 07

  The Hoover Dam.

• 1:07:10Laci Mosley?

  That same year, the founders of this Build the Wall, uh, We Build the Wall organization were indicted under suspicion of defrauding donors of $25 million in connection to the organization. So they were just stealing money based on racism. They were like, hey, guys.

• 1:07:24Speaker 07

  Why can't Darius scam like that? Like,

• 1:07:25Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:07:26Speaker 07

  Scam somebody else.

• 1:07:27Laci Mosley?

  This is ethical scamming. It was like, they were like, hey, girls, you hate the Browns? We're gonna make a, a wall to keep them out.

• 1:07:34Speaker 07

  He needs to go do some construction scams.

• 1:07:37Laci Mosley?

  Just send us some coins.

• 1:07:38Speaker 07

  Just leave us alone.

• 1:07:39Laci Mosley?

  And we're gonna keep the Browns away from you. We promise. Like, do that scam. Um, so I don't know if I'm mad at this at all. I think that I'm into the scam. Uh, because Fisher built two small private walls no one asked for that weren't built well, he is having difficulty finding a buyer of the wall. Who wants to buy a wall that one don't work good?

• 1:08:00Speaker 07

  So now he's got to, wait, he's got, he built the wall, now he's got to sell it?

• 1:08:04Laci Mosley?

  Yes, he's trying to sell a wall that don't work good.

• 1:08:06Speaker 07

  Lord.

• 1:08:07Laci Mosley?

  He says, this wall is vibes. Yeah, you can pass through it, just like Darius.

• 1:08:14Speaker 07

  You take that part through.

• 1:08:16Laci Mosley?

  Right. I honestly, I don't, I don't hate this. I'm actually happy that you were scammed. Uh, we need more scammers like this. But guys, we're at the end of the show and we always ask of the show, Angela, where do you want to be found? Where do you want people to find you? Online, wherever?

• 1:08:30Speaker 07

  You can find me on Instagram and Twitter, The Kitchenista.

• 1:08:34Laci Mosley?

  The Kitchenista, yes. And follow her. And as always, guys, put a stitch on your friends and family, [email protected] if you want to follow me, D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacey on all platforms. Episodes by Carly airing now on Paramount Plus. The full season of The Black Lady Sketch Show, five Emmy nominations, can y'all believe? Fully streaming on HBO Max. Support me. Also, can y'all like, rate and like and subscribe to the podcast and give me five stars? That's how you can do, uh, something nice for a black queen today. Uh, thank you. And congregation, stay scheming. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargill,

• 1:09:17Laci Mosley?

  engineered by Marina País, and researched by Kaylin Brandt. Stay scheming.

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