The Ulta EntreprenuHERS w/ Jillian Bell

Hide your makeup compact, 'cause Jillian Bell (Summer of 69, Kinda Pregnant) is here to help Laci give a primer on a group of criminals concealing concealer. Yup, we're talkin' cosmetics crime rings! Tune in to hear how Ulta, Sephora, and other makeup retailers have become hot targets for thieves looking to resell product. Plus, Jillian shares how she conned her high school prom limo driver. Stay schemin’! Be sure to check out Jillian’s directorial debut, Summer of 69, available May 9 on Hulu! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your shady friends by emailing us at [email protected]. CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Jillian Bell: @jillianbell Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.yahoo.com/news/southern-california-woman-charged-police-235537939.html https://ktla.com/news/local-news/southern-california-woman-charged-in-350000-retail-theft-bust/ https://www.canyon-news.com/blanca-escobar-charged-with-organized-retail-theft/192275 https://da.lacounty.gov/media/news/da-hochman-announces-charges-major-effort-combat-organized-retail-theft-macarthur-park https://abc7.com/westlake-district-stolen-merchandise-raid-lapd/14183809/ https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/bonsall-ulta-sephora-retail-theft-ring/3719190/ https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/prada-fendi-ulta-organized-retail-theft-stolen-goods-1236737847/ https://queensda.org/queens-husband-and-wife-charged-with-operating-international-stolen-merchandise-ring-out-of-kew-gardens-hills-home-and-storefront-in-dominican-republic/ https://beautymatter.com/articles/ulta-and-target-address-organized-retail-theft

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• 3:27Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Also, it's a comedy podcast. I'm gonna keep putting that disclaimer in there for the new listeners. Girl, we ain't doing Dateline over here. Alrighty, today, y'all already know, congregation, put your Martin Luther King fans on the popsicle sticks. Put them in the air, wave them around. Yes, that's right. I'm very excited, I'm elated, I'm thrilled for today's guest. She is amazing. She's a comedian, an actor, an Emmy nominated writer and director. Okay, movie director queen, we love to see more of them. She broke out as a writer on the 35th season of Saturday Night Live. Yes, that's Saturday Night Live.

• 4:11Laci Mosley?

  You may have seen her in the Sundance hit, Brittany Runs a Marathon. I did, that movie was cute. Or in Godmother, 22 Jump Street, Candy Cane Lane and most recently, Kinda Pregnant on Netflix. She played Gillian Belk on the long running television series Workaholics. And now, we get to stand, keep those fans in the air, her directional debut with Summer of Sixty nine, releasing on Hulu, May ninth. I love that sixty nine on May ninth, y'all. Get into a congregation. Please welcome Julianne Bell to the show. Hi, Julianne.

• 4:43Speaker 05

  Woo, that was like, um, I was like in church. I was like, that was like, that was beautiful.

• 4:49Laci Mosley?

  Yes, amen, a scam.

• 4:50Speaker 05

  Yes, a scam, a scam.

• 4:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my goodness, how are you?

• 4:55Speaker 05

  I'm so excited to be here with you.

• 4:57Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 4:58Speaker 05

  I mean, you're just a blast. I'm, I'm, I'm ready.

• 5:00Laci Mosley?

  Thank you.

• 5:01Speaker 05

  I'm ready to be scammed or talk scams. I'm in.

• 5:04Laci Mosley?

  Yes, okay, I love that you say that because you know my first question is going to be, what is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? Know anybody?

• 5:13Speaker 05

  I, I, listen, I enjoy a scam. I enjoy a scam documentary. I enjoy, um, but I don't enjoy when it happens to my loved ones, to the elderly. I find, and, and as someone who's recently turned forty, is about to be forty one, I find that I'm getting scammed more and more. A lot of those emails where they say, oh, click on this because your bank will explode if not. And I look and then I, you know, thank God I know to look. But I'll look at the email address and it won't say, you know, Wells Fargo.

• 5:49Laci Mosley?

  No, I was gonna say, Hotmail, Yahoo.

• 5:52Speaker 05

  It'll say, it'll say, Billy loves Zanes, you know? And, and I'm like, why is Billy Zane doing this? Um, but I, I just am fascinated by scams. And I will say, I might have participated in a little one.

• 6:07Laci Mosley?

  Okay, allegedly.

• 6:09Speaker 05

  Allegedly, it didn't hurt anyone, but.

• 6:12Laci Mosley?

  That's what we like.

• 6:13Speaker 05

  When I was seventeen, I was, uh, I went to prom. I'm from Las Vegas.

• 6:20Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 6:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:21Laci Mosley?

  So that's, that's like, kind of like the city of scams.

• 6:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's like the epicenter of scams. And so we were going to prom and our proms are very different in Las Vegas. You go to some kind of a show, like you'll see Seek Freedom Roy. And then go to your prom for twenty minutes to take pictures. And then you go to, uh, a hotel room if you can gather enough people to pay for one hotel.

• 6:44Laci Mosley?

  That sounds like the cool people prom. Like you were cool, Gillian. I can tell you were cool. You were that girl. That's what it is.

• 6:50Speaker 05

  I don't know if I was cool, but...

• 6:52Laci Mosley?

  I'm getting that energy off of you. It's very much giving like, oh, Gillian's hot. Okay, Gillian. Yeah, yeah, you were walking like you had. I feel like you had a group of friends in the hallway and it was like a bird formation and you were at the middle of the V.

• 7:02Speaker 05

  You're making me mean girls. I love it.

• 7:04Laci Mosley?

  No, not mean. I'm just saying that like wherever you walk, they would just flock in line like birds migrating. That's what you're giving me. Cause I don't think everybody in Vegas was having the type of prom you had. You know what? We would go see a little show, go see, you know, Secret and Free, fighting them, boxing them tigers and whatnot. Then we would just go to the little event just to bless them with our presence, get a little photo off our mom and them. Then we would go to our private party. This is giving gossip, girl. Ooh, okay, Blake and Raffa. All right, continue, continue. So y'all went to all of this.

• 7:32Speaker 05

  Okay, so we would do all of this. Well, this night in particular, we did not get a hotel room. So it was sort of one of those things where we had the limo. We had to be back by a certain time. We were on the strip, cruising up and down the strip. Nobody wanted to go home. And one of the girls that was in our group was named Whitney Heinrich. And Whitney's mother had been the one who paid for the limousine. It was under her name. Well, we had asked the limit driver if, you know, we're like, can we just, can we just keep going up and down the strip just a couple more times? We're young.

• 8:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 8:06Speaker 05

  We're free, we're alive, we're carefree. And he was like, nah, sorry, gotta get you home. It's done, it's done. That's a wrap.

• 8:14Laci Mosley?

  He was like, I got a bachelorette party in 30 minutes.

• 8:17Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh. Yeah, on to the next. And so we rolled up the window and I said, I think I have a plan.

• 8:25Laci Mosley?

  Like the partition?

• 8:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, the little partition.

• 8:27Laci Mosley?

  Roll up the partition, please.

• 8:28Speaker 05

  I said, roll up the partition. We were very coy. And, and we did. And I grabbed my phone and I had the limo driver's number because he gave it to us in case it's like, oh, if we get lost or something in between the prom, you know, he's just outside in the parking lot. I don't know why I had to have the number, but it was important for this moment. I called his cellphone number and I pretended to be Whitney Heinrich's mother.

• 8:56Laci Mosley?

  Okay, now was Whitney in on it?

• 8:58Speaker 05

  Whitney was like, let's do it.

• 9:00Laci Mosley?

  Okay, yes, we love a co-conspirator, yes.

• 9:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, she's like, I'm in, we're all in. But I mean, obviously, it had to be suspicious to him that we raised the partition and then we're completely silent, like, you know, going from being very rowdy to totally, you know, in the zone of this acting moment. So I called him up and I said, I think his name was, you know, Frank, it was Frank.

• 9:24Laci Mosley?

  It's always a Frank.

• 9:25Speaker 05

  It's always Frank, the limo driver.

• 9:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 9:27Speaker 05

  And I said, Frank, is this Frank? And he goes, yes, and I go, it's Barbara Heinrich, how are you? And he goes, I'm good, I'm, uh, I'm with the kids now, um, we're about to be heading back. And I go, you know what, Frank, I'm, I'm thinking maybe a little bit longer. I'm thinking maybe a little bit longer, they get to go out and enjoy their lives a bit. Frank, do you remember your prom?

• 9:52Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my goodness, that's you were in the lore.

• 9:54Speaker 05

  I was in it. And he's like, oh, yes, it was, you know, great night. And I was like, well, you know what? I want to give these kids the night of their lives.

• 10:03Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 10:04Speaker 05

  I'm thinking we stay out just a little bit more, you know, make some turns, make some U-turns, hit up the strip, go up and down, see the fountain, um, at the Bellagio. And he said, okay, you're the boss, and hung up. And then we all started laughing so hard that there's no way Frank didn't know that it was me who did it, but he still went along with it. And we got to stay out for like another hour, just driving up and down that strip. And to this day, I will say that's the only scam I've been a part of, but I feel like it's naughty and I feel like it's, I'm just proud of myself. I'm proud of myself for doing it because we had the night of our lives.

• 10:46Laci Mosley?

  Did you know you were gonna be an actress then?

• 10:48Speaker 05

  I-

• 10:49Laci Mosley?

  Because it's giving acting, you even gave me kind of like an affectation, like Barbara might be from somewhere else.

• 10:53Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:54Laci Mosley?

  Your prom?

• 10:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, listen, it's Barbara Heinrich. It's, you know, it's.

• 11:00Laci Mosley?

  Barbara.

• 11:01Speaker 05

  Barbara. When you're hearing all the As, you know, you're going somewhere with it. Yeah, I knew like a pretty young age that I wanted to act. I was constantly putting on little plays for my family and saying, look at me, look at me. While I was in the pool doing a handstand. So I knew there was something in there and I had like a box of costumes. So it was like, I feel like.

• 11:22Laci Mosley?

  Okay, yeah, so you were, you were getting prepared.

• 11:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, I knew.

• 11:25Laci Mosley?

  Absolutely.

• 11:25Speaker 05

  I knew.

• 11:25Laci Mosley?

  And I would say here that Frank wasn't the one who was scammed. I want to say it was Barbara Heinrich.

• 11:31Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 11:32Laci Mosley?

  Because Frank was like, y'all little minors ain't gonna tell me to keep spinning the block because I'm not gonna get that check. But now I have the phone receipt of Barbara Heinrich. And so I'm gonna add an extra hour to this limo fee. I was about to start putting out these penis straws for the bachelor arrests, but they drunk, they can wait an hour. And so, you know, he's probably just like, well, I had to have confirmation now to send the big to Jimmy, who probably runs the limo service.

• 11:55Speaker 05

  Oh, you know Jimmy's on top of Frank.

• 11:57Laci Mosley?

  That's his older cousin. And you know, Frank had been fucking up a lot in life. And so he was like, all right, your sister said, I gotta give you a job, Frank. Just drive people around, don't get in no trouble, Frank. And so now he got a phone call to be like, Jimmy, Jimmy, I swear to God, Barbara recalled and they said another hour, charge him, charge him. Yeah.

• 12:14Speaker 05

  I've never once thought about if Barbara Heinrich had to pay an extra hour for that limo.

• 12:19Laci Mosley?

  She's fine.

• 12:20Speaker 05

  She 100% did.

• 12:22Laci Mosley?

  Mm hmm.

• 12:23Speaker 05

  Oh gosh, I feel terrible about it.

• 12:25Laci Mosley?

  Oh no, she's fine. Having kids in Vegas and then they're going to the strip at the prom and like y'all didn't come home with no sob story. That means that she was happy her babies came back alive, you know, unfettered and they had a good time just driving around in the car. That's so wholesome. Y'all just wanted to drive around the car. It was like y'all were like, hey Frank, can you get a snap?

• 12:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, we did nothing. We were just like, please roam up and down this one road again, Frank. Like that was the highlight of our night was just. Getting to see the lights of Vegas, which we lived in for our entire existence.

• 12:58Laci Mosley?

  But it's like y'all were young, though. So it's like you're not necessarily on the strip like that.

• 13:01Speaker 05

  No, no, we're just drive. All you can do is drive and yell at the people who are handing out porn pamphlets.

• 13:08Laci Mosley?

  See, man, I miss like that time in the youth and I'm like on the edge of that where we like we like you did have phones. But we weren't like trying to make content constantly.

• 13:19Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:20Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean?

• 13:20Speaker 05

  Oh, I can't imagine that.

• 13:22Laci Mosley?

  So like driving up and down the strip would have been so fun, just talking to each other, playing jokes and talking about the year, you know, whatever. That's fun, you know, camaraderie versus now the girls gotta get out here with they they they prom dresses that look like they going to the Met and the theme is naked and.

• 13:39Speaker 05

  Well, but it is. It's so true. Like our, I mean, I remember the like risque dress of the time. It was the tube top. With the puffy little dress. Like it's very, um, 10 Things I Hate About You. And now it's like, does this cover my nipples?

• 13:58Laci Mosley?

  One wrong move and the whole titty's out. Yeah.

• 14:00Speaker 05

  You, you honestly.

• 14:02Laci Mosley?

  It's like a dress like where it's got like a snake kind of pattern on it that is the fabric and then everything else is sheer. And then the fabric only waves around like the nips and then it waves back around the cooch and the little of the booty crack. And they're like, fashion. And I'm like, look, I, I, this is not slut shaming to the children. Y'all, I, y'all live y'all life. I just, I just don't understand.

• 14:23Speaker 05

  I also don't understand how everyone's wearing the bathing suits nowadays where there's just a thin. I'd like to call it a thin red line. It's like just, just how is everything not falling out or am I different?

• 14:36Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that's not a bathing suit for activity. Oh, no. I have one of those. Yeah, it's for standing. You don't get it. You don't start doing strokes in that. Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's like you stand in it, you on the yacht, you do the pose, one foot up. I'll show y'all one of mine. And, um, you know, and then that's it. And then you don't get in the water.

• 14:54Speaker 05

  Put a foot up with that on?

• 14:56Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no. I mean, like you put, like you get on your tiptoe.

• 14:58Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 14:59Laci Mosley?

  To get that leg real mean, like, you know, mus- muscular, you know, señora. And then, and then that's it. And like for so long, I would have, uh, my 4th of Julacy birthday parties. And there was always a pool and I always try to make sure it's like in the hills or somewhere so we can see the fireworks. Cause I was born on the 4th of July.

• 15:14Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh. You're a little firework. You always have been. Take that Katy Perry.

• 15:20Laci Mosley?

  I know, I had it first, girl. Okay, you stay in space. Only reason we need Katy to come down from space is because my queen Gayle King was up there and I was like, we gotta bring Gayle down. Okay, Gayle's gotta come back from space. But, um.

• 15:31Speaker 05

  Have you heard my Gayle King song yet?

• 15:33Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 15:34Speaker 05

  Okay, it's very quick. Can I sing it?

• 15:36Laci Mosley?

  Yes. She's gonna love this.

• 15:38Speaker 05

  Okay, wait. Do you think that Oprah was relieved when she saw that Gayle King was safe? That's the whole song.

• 15:54Laci Mosley?

  That was beautiful.

• 15:55Speaker 05

  Thank you. I posted it in my stories the other day and then someone I know, um, put backing, like, music behind it.

• 16:04Laci Mosley?

  I was inspired immediately. I started snapping. I was like.

• 16:06Speaker 05

  I know, right? There's a grid to it. I think my album's coming out soon.

• 16:10Laci Mosley?

  You gotta drop it.

• 16:11Speaker 05

  I do.

• 16:11Laci Mosley?

  The girls need it.

• 16:12Speaker 05

  I do.

• 16:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. But I would pose by pools. For a long time, it was a running joke that Lacey always takes pictures next to pools, but doesn't get into them. So that's, the string bikini you're talking about is definitely the pose next to pool. Yeah, we gotta get some music to this, uh, Rich Rich though. We gotta get us some beats and, um, and some, um, auto-tuning here.

• 16:29Speaker 05

  Do you think that Oprah was relieved when she saw that Gayle King was safe?

• 16:39Laci Mosley?

  We have a hit with your Gayle King.

• 16:40Speaker 05

  Thank you. I can't tell, I think it should just be called Gayle King.

• 16:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 16:44Speaker 05

  I mean, there's a hit, there's, you know, a wink to Oprah, but I really think it's Gayle's moment.

• 16:47Laci Mosley?

  It is Gayle's moment. Gayle, we have her moments. I love Gayle King.

• 16:50Speaker 05

  Well, also, speaking of Gayle King, she seemed like she was like, never again. Like, she, she, she did not feel it. It didn't seem, when she came off.

• 17:01Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, no. I was proud of her because, you know, it's not typically, uh, African-American activity and she took one for the whole team.

• 17:07Speaker 05

  Just in general space?

• 17:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no. And I'm not saying like, in like, you know, obviously you have the hidden figures, you have all these people who contributed to the aerospace, you know, program. I'm more so saying like, we, I don't meet many black people who are like, yeah, I would love to go to space. It's like, no, we see what they did to us on Earth. I don't want to know what they doing to us up there.

• 17:26Laci Mosley?

  You're not gonna trick me, okay?

• 17:28Speaker 05

  You're not gonna trick me right now.

• 17:30Laci Mosley?

  But yes, I like your scam. I think it's cute.

• 17:34Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 17:34Laci Mosley?

  I think Barbara was very overjoyed to pay for that extra little, you know, fun for y'all because y'all were being safe and being good kids.

• 17:40Speaker 05

  What if she sends me a bill? What if she sends me a bill, right?

• 17:44Laci Mosley?

  She hears this, it's a bill?

• 17:44Speaker 05

  Right? Goddamn now. I just get a bill in the mail from Barbara. And by the way, it is Barbara Heinrich. I made her Barbara. So that is like...

• 17:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so you know, that's a different person. That was Barbara.

• 17:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 17:56Laci Mosley?

  Not Barbara. We just called Barbara.

• 17:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, so how can she really ever get billed?

• 18:00Laci Mosley?

  Now, she might not come after you. I mean, the Emmys know who you are, you know, you roll fast. And now she know you got some checks over here, okay? And we got this new Summer 69 coming out on Hulu. She might see that on Hulu on May 9th and be like, "There she is."

• 18:15Laci Mosley?

  "I got her. I got her now."

• 18:17Speaker 05

  There's just gonna be a cage that falls down on me, like an old timey cartoon cage.

• 18:22Laci Mosley?

  Scums!

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• 20:26Laci Mosley?

  So let's get into our episode today. We're going to move into our historic hoodwink. This is where I will regale drilling with a famous con caper group of criminals. We don't know yet. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them.

• 20:38Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 20:39Laci Mosley?

  I don't know yet.

• 20:39Speaker 05

  I can't wait.

• 20:40Laci Mosley?

  But today, we're going to be talking about Blanca Escobar. Now, Blanca Escobar has been charged with stealing more than $350,000 worth of makeup from other stores and opening her own makeup stores across from MacArthur Park in Los Angeles.

• 20:57Speaker 05

  Well, she's got so much makeup, she's got to do something, by the way. You can't fault a woman for working.

• 21:01Laci Mosley?

  And I mean, with the last name Escobar, you gotta be moving weight in some way. Like, that's just like, you know, I mean, that's just the vibe. And so she wasn't moving like kilos of cocaine. It was like, you know, I got kilos of pressed powder. I got kilos of Fenty Bomb lip gloss. You know what I mean? I hope she measured it all in kilos.

• 21:18Speaker 05

  Yeah. She's got bombs, not bombs. You know what I mean? I also picture her with a very large tilted hat.

• 21:25Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes. And that face gotta be beat. If makeup theft is your passion, I need to see the TikTok tutorial. Like, how are you doing it?

• 21:31Speaker 05

  I feel like that face also doesn't move.

• 21:34Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no.

• 21:34Speaker 05

  No. I feel like, I feel like this is her crying.

• 21:38Laci Mosley?

  Rich, why are we showing her doing the faces?

• 21:40Speaker 05

  This is her at a surprise party.

• 21:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my gosh, who died?

• 21:46Speaker 05

  Everyone.

• 21:51Laci Mosley?

  We gotta do that face. We have to do that face for the photo. But it was beautiful. But so she basically started up this brick and mortar with all of these stolen goods. And she's a part of a new class of cosmetic entrepreneurs who give new meaning to the phrase, bitch stole my look.

• 22:14Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh. So, so, so she set up this store?

• 22:18Laci Mosley?

  Yes, after she had been stealing more than $350,000 worth of makeup from other stores, she basically was sourcing her supply from other suppliers, if we want to put this into scam business terms.

• 22:29Speaker 05

  And how long did this go for?

• 22:31Laci Mosley?

  Um, well, we'll see here.

• 22:33Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 22:33Laci Mosley?

  But we do know that on March 5th, LAPD officers executed a search warrant at 65-year-old. Oh, she was 65. Come on, Blanca.

• 22:42Speaker 05

  I knew she was 65. I pictured that face not moving.

• 22:46Laci Mosley?

  And also, like, 65 tells me that you're old enough that you know if you're gonna start your theft makeup business, you're not gonna be telling everybody that your suppliers give you the five-figure discount. Like, I feel like she'd keep that on the low, because these days I see so many scammers get caught up because they instantly have to get on TikTok and tell everybody how they did it.

• 23:01Speaker 05

  Oh, she's, she's never even heard of TikTok. TikTok to her is the sound of the grandfather clock in her living room.

• 23:07Laci Mosley?

  Exactly.

• 23:08Speaker 05

  That's it. That's all she knows.

• 23:09Laci Mosley?

  And that's class. That's pure class all the way. So 65-year-old Blanca Escobar's business on Sixth Street, across from MacArthur Park in Westlake neighborhood of Los Angeles, right? So, um, I always heard things about that park. Isn't that the park where, like, the crimes would happen?

• 23:24Speaker 05

  I like the crimes would happen.

• 23:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, don't go there because, um, there's a pond, there's ducks, but there's also crimes, plural.

• 23:34Laci Mosley?

  Unless you're looking for crimes and then, okay, there's, okay, but I feel like crimes next to a pond is wild. Maybe it used to be where crimes happened, because I feel like I watched an episode of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air where they were like, we meeting up in MacArthur Park, and then that was like,

• 23:46Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 23:47Laci Mosley?

  And they was definitely about to do crimes.

• 23:49Speaker 05

  Well, there was also, is, is that the band or the song? There's a band.

• 23:52Laci Mosley?

  MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark.

• 23:55Speaker 05

  Yeah. And I think, I mean, is this the one that has the, um, the swans that you can paddle out of?

• 24:01Laci Mosley?

  That's Echo Park.

• 24:01Speaker 05

  Okay, okay. Because how fun would it be to do some kind of a, a deal?

• 24:06Laci Mosley?

  Where we paddle up next to each other?

• 24:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:07Laci Mosley?

  Like, you got the stuff?

• 24:08Speaker 05

  Yeah. And it's like, meet me at the Fourth Swan at 4:00 PM.

• 24:14Laci Mosley?

  I'll be the one in the hoodie paddling very quickly. Yes, I mean, that's where I want to do a drug deal with ambiance, okay? No alleys, no, nothing shady. And I'm pretty sure that's probably where it happens.

• 24:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, that would be really cool. You think Echo Park?

• 24:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I remember when weed wasn't legal in New York and they would have, I had a weed carrier system or courier system and they started to get more and more professional as a crime syndicate. And so, you know, you would hit them up and they would have a courier on a backpack come bring you the weed.

• 24:43Speaker 05

  Ooh.

• 24:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, to your home, which was like, it was the first weed DoorDash. And it was so lovely. And I remember one Pride, I was trying to get the weed for everybody and they were so busy and backed up, they didn't get to me. And I was like, I have been a long time customer. Like, why am I becoming like a carrier with a weed man? The one person would think like you don't really like have any say. And I was like, I have been a long time customer to this weed crime syndicate and I am deeply disappointed that on this holiday, we were not able to get our reefers. And they were like, we are so sorry, we're offering you a discount code. And like, it wasn't like a code, but they were just like, half off your next weed. And I was like, oh, this is so.

• 25:19Speaker 05

  What a different world than what our parents grew up with. Like, we have like potmates now. That's, that's our version of.

• 25:26Laci Mosley?

  We do, like, there's like ease, like they'll come to your house and deliver your weed. Yeah, that's in LA. Mm-hmm, do weed with ease. They even text me like, hey, girl, you haven't gotten a weed in a while? Would you like a code? Twenty dollars off for your friend to weed.

• 25:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, I just went to a CBD store the other day for, from, straight from my vet's office. They were like, your dogs are gonna need some of that THC. And I was like, okay, all right, well, here we go. Uh, but like, it is, it's so common now. It's just like, okay, you just walk in the store, get what you need and get out.

• 25:57Laci Mosley?

  And that's how it should be. It's less harmful than alcohol. I'm not a huge weed person, but it's like, whenever I'm throwing a party or something, there'll be like a weed bar or something, because I know people enjoy their reefers. Yeah, you're not trying to keep it classy for the non-drinking girlies.

• 26:08Speaker 05

  I went to one party where they had like a, um, almost, I don't want to say a drug station, because that makes it sound like there was like cocaine and heroin. It was like edibles, mushrooms, stuff like that. And I just kept going up to the two men that were working it and going, what if I was a cop? And they were like, we're not giving you any of this. And I was like, I'm just curious how your business is run, because, you know, I could be a cop. What if I have my badge right in my pocket?

• 26:35Laci Mosley?

  I feel like you don't give cop vibes, Julian. I'm so sorry. And especially like, I could be a cop. I feel like so goobery.

• 26:41Speaker 05

  I could be, I'm here to take you down. I'm from the D E and the A.

• 26:46Laci Mosley?

  I don't think cops ever say cop.

• 26:47Speaker 05

  Cop.

• 26:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's never.

• 26:49Speaker 05

  I could be a cop. But I won't cop to it.

• 26:55Laci Mosley?

  Cute.

• 26:55Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 26:56Laci Mosley?

  We love it. So, back to Ms. Escobar.

• 26:59Speaker 05

  Oh, yes.

• 26:59Laci Mosley?

  So, she's got her business in, uh, MacArthur Park. Officers, when they ran up on her business, recovered an estimated $360,000 in stolen merchandise. Primarily cosmetic, clothes, toiletries, beauty and healthcare products, skincare items, sneakers, clothing, tumblers, and accessories.

• 27:17Speaker 05

  Sneakers really threw me. I'm not gonna lie to you.

• 27:20Laci Mosley?

  Look at this. This is her storeroom.

• 27:22Speaker 05

  Oh, shit.

• 27:23Laci Mosley?

  This is the back room.

• 27:24Speaker 05

  It's messy as hell.

• 27:26Laci Mosley?

  But she's organized though, cuz I see the Fenty in one, uh, container.

• 27:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:30Laci Mosley?

  I saw some lotions in another. Okay, she's got some of those cups.

• 27:33Speaker 05

  She's got just a cup?

• 27:35Laci Mosley?

  Just a cup. See, that's when you know you a thief thief, and you were just like, you know what, why not?

• 27:39Speaker 05

  She's like, someone will like this.

• 27:40Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 27:40Speaker 05

  It's pink.

• 27:41Laci Mosley?

  And that's that TikTok cup, you know, the one I love, I do love watching those videos. That's definitely Fenty right there. I can recognize a lot of these products and put them in a price point. Each of those lip glosses will probably go for around $14, $15. And then if you look up here, like, we got all the lashes. Uh, I think those are, are those press-on nails I'm looking at right now?

• 27:57Speaker 05

  Oh, I love a press-on nail.

• 27:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I do see eyelashes in there. We do got some Ardell's in there, for sure.

• 28:03Speaker 05

  This feels like way more than 350 grand.

• 28:07Laci Mosley?

  These are, remember, police made this estimate?

• 28:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 28:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 28:10Speaker 05

  The cops.

• 28:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the cops.

• 28:12Speaker 05

  The cops are the goodest math.

• 28:14Laci Mosley?

  The cops aren't wearing these products.

• 28:16Speaker 05

  They, so they just looked at this.

• 28:18Laci Mosley?

  Women and know things about their products. No, they know.

• 28:21Speaker 05

  They're like, yeah, we got a bunch of stuff that's in pink boxes.

• 28:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the pink stuff looks like it would go for a lot, Jimmy. You know, bitches love pink. All right, let's estimate that at $6,000. Okay, uh, what about these tiny tubes? Well, they're smaller, so let's charge less. It's probably a tiny tube of hyaluronic acids in there, and they're like, oh, yeah, this is probably like $2 a pop, cuz look how small they are. Like, I feel like this was assessed by size and not by product.

• 28:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's really nice.

• 28:45Laci Mosley?

  Hyaluronic acid can run you 30 a bottle.

• 28:47Speaker 05

  There's really nice stuff in there. I don't see any, like, goop. You know what I mean?

• 28:51Laci Mosley?

  I mean, well, I'm, I know Gwyneth would love if there was some Goop up in there because Goop is going under.

• 28:56Speaker 05

  What?

• 28:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 28:57Speaker 05

  Wait, that is the most shocking thing I've been told today. What are you talking about? Wait, wait. Their products or like the whole brand?

• 29:06Laci Mosley?

  You know, like the brand is like, they're shifting their brand strategy, but the products themselves, because of the market that we're in right now. People don't have that kind of, you know, um, lay around cash, um, or, you know, extra income to afford like ridiculously exorbitant, exorbitant expensive products.

• 29:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So goo, like, and like, look, uh, so Gwyneth Paltrow's business empire nearing its end, question mark. Goop ends 2024 with lawsuits and layoffs, honey.

• 29:34Speaker 05

  I feel like ever since the ski accident, things have just been going downhill.

• 29:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Well, I think

• 29:39Speaker 05

  Literally.

• 29:40Laci Mosley?

  I think we're about to see Gwyneth back on our screens because she did the very actressy thing of like having a whole spread and Vanity Fair, but like not promoting anything, but just being a bad bitch. And so typically that's like, I'm back.

• 29:53Speaker 05

  I do like it when people are doing that and they have nothing to promote. And they're like, what's new? And she's like, I am eating the middle part of the broccoli stem. Like

• 30:02Laci Mosley?

  Literally.

• 30:03Speaker 05

  Like, that is the new news.

• 30:04Laci Mosley?

  Products on some sites are going as low as like 60% off now.

• 30:08Speaker 05

  I need to get on this. I use the face wash and the oils.

• 30:11Laci Mosley?

  Some site that starts with an M that has her, um, products on it, but I know Moop. Get your Goop and moop. They, they're 60% off now because people aren't buying these luxury brands anymore because, you know, income is scarce.

• 30:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:27Laci Mosley?

  And so you don't have it to throw away on, you know, diamond face cream.

• 30:30Speaker 05

  Can't spend $800 on Vuitton's daughter oil. I mean, it's like, it's so expensive, all of this. I'm still going to CVS and buying some moisturizer. So I don't know.

• 30:40Laci Mosley?

  That's what's becoming popular now is like there's girls on TikTok who are doing the dupes of the really, really expensive stuff and what kind of holds up and, and

• 30:48Speaker 05

  Right. There's a reason it's been around forever and ever.

• 30:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we got some recessionomics happening here, but she got the Tom Blue, she got the skincare, she got all of that. All the stuff that she had, the police found. This was coming from retailers and like, look at that. I know those brands. Does that see the film? All of this stuff came from places like CVS, Target, Walgreens, Kroger, Ross, TJ Maxx, and Macy's. Cops also discovered illegal slot machines at the business. Okay, so she was really diversified.

• 31:15Laci Mosley?

  She said, "Making it all day affair."

• 31:17Speaker 05

  As someone from Las Vegas, I didn't know that CVSs and grocery stores and everything didn't have slot machines, because they do there.

• 31:25Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 31:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, so I thought that was completely normal. So maybe this woman is from Vegas, or not from Vegas.

• 31:31Laci Mosley?

  She might be your kin, Dylan. She might be your kin, because you're right. I didn't hear about no slot machine being around anywhere else but Vegas. They had them in airports, everywhere. Vegas is like, "You are not leaving with your money, girl."

• 31:41Speaker 05

  Put it in.

• 31:41Laci Mosley?

  Put it in.

• 31:42Speaker 05

  Throw in a quarter.

• 31:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, your flight got delayed? Guess what? Go ahead, pull this lever, bitch. You're not leaving with a single coin.

• 31:47Speaker 05

  You just lost your kid's college tuition.

• 31:50Laci Mosley?

  Right. The worst thing is, I gotta go back to the Aria, because I got $100 chips that I found in my purse.

• 31:54Speaker 05

  What?

• 31:55Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. I forgot to cash it all in. Oh, I'm very good at craps.

• 31:58Speaker 05

  You are?

• 31:59Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Yes. I at least walk with like 5K. Like, and I'll start with $200.

• 32:04Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh. I'm very good at craps, but the other kind. Heyo. Just joking.

• 32:09Laci Mosley?

  That's health. Health is wealth.

• 32:11Speaker 05

  Health is wealth.

• 32:12Laci Mosley?

  Health is wealth.

• 32:12Speaker 05

  Goop.

• 32:13Laci Mosley?

  So Blanca had been charged with eight felony counts of receiving stolen property over the $950 value mark, and one misdemeanor count of conducting gaming. So the gaming is the least of their worries. They're like, "You robbing all of these stores." Now, I would say that what Blanca does is not new. I'm not gonna rat out the street that these are on, but there are definitely some streets in Los Angeles that if you go into the store, because sometimes I'll be looking for a faja, and if you're a girl who knows, you know, sometimes you gotta get into that dress on that carpet, and you need a little faja. You know the fajas?

• 32:42Speaker 05

  No, what is that?

• 32:43Laci Mosley?

  The best corset ever. So you have to be wearing something. The material has to be a little thicker than whatever you're wearing underneath.

• 32:50Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 32:50Laci Mosley?

  But typically, people go buy them after BBL surgeries, which is a Brazilian buttlet. That's where they take the fat from your body, and they put it in your booty, and they suck it out your stomach and stuff. But I just like it for underneath a dress at a nice event where I need to just nasty snatch.

• 33:03Speaker 05

  Is it one of those where it just clips on each, like?

• 33:06Laci Mosley?

  So first, you put it on, and then you hu- hook it in.

• 33:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:10Laci Mosley?

  Then you clip it in. It hooks like a corset in front, and then you zip the zipper up, and then it just pulls everything. All your organs just mash together.

• 33:21Speaker 05

  Yeah. And they're all having a party.

• 33:23Laci Mosley?

  They're all having a party in there, and your body's having a party on the outside. So skinty.

• 33:27Speaker 05

  Is the event ever worth it?

• 33:30Laci Mosley?

  Yes, the photos are.

• 33:32Speaker 05

  The photos, the photos.

• 33:33Laci Mosley?

  And you get used to not breathing. Breathing is really overrated.

• 33:36Speaker 05

  Really?

• 33:37Laci Mosley?

  People talking about oxygen, the carbon dioxide. You don't really need to do as much as you think. So.

• 33:43Laci Mosley?

  It's worth it. It's worth it for the oohs and the ahs and the gags.

• 33:45Speaker 05

  Now I.

• 33:45Laci Mosley?

  So Branca's not the first one to do this.

• 33:47Speaker 05

  No, no, no.

• 33:47Laci Mosley?

  But she's the first one that the LA and the PD have pulled up to. So the LAPD had to rent a U-Haul to carry away all the stolen goods. The district attorney says the details of the crime indicate planning, sophistication, and professionalism. What a compliment from the cops.

• 34:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:04Laci Mosley?

  This is the U-Haul right here.

• 34:05Speaker 05

  Way to go, cops. I will say, I don't feel like everyone, anyone gets arrested and gets a little pat on the back as well.

• 34:13Laci Mosley?

  Right, and but you know what? This isn't, I don't even think this is the cops patting her on the back. They're patting themselves on the back because they're like, we caught her. She had sophistication and elegance. You know, like, they're trying to big themselves up like they just did like an Ocean's Eleven or something. They were like, this was a stakeout situation and we had to drive a toy car with a, with a camera inside.

• 34:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're making it sound like they're picking up like diamonds and.

• 34:36Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. Like, are y'all really about to put all these highlighters and contours on the police table like they're cocaína? And be like, this was our bust today? Like, really? Because you know they love to do, they love to stand in front of a table with drugs and like a little bit of money because you know they be stealing the money. So, but they leave enough to put on the table to be like, look at this.

• 34:52Speaker 05

  There's gotta be a file, right? That's just for cops taking pictures with what they've collected?

• 34:58Laci Mosley?

  If there's not, we need to make one. Now, this is my, now I want to.

• 35:00Speaker 05

  That's an Instagram account I would, I would follow.

• 35:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I gotta pull one up because some of them are very goofy, like.

• 35:06Speaker 05

  Like, just being like, kind of silly?

• 35:08Laci Mosley?

  Yep.

• 35:08Speaker 05

  You know what I mean?

• 35:09Laci Mosley?

  They're never silly. They're so serious. That's why I say fun, because I love to laugh at the police. And so it was, it's very funny to look at. There was one where they had, we did, um, one about a Maker's Mark. Like, I think they had a whiskey that was like very, very high end.

• 35:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:21Laci Mosley?

  It may not be Maker's Mark. It's not Maker's Mark. But there's another whiskey company, it'll come to me. But they had a very, very high end liquor that they were, like whiskey that they would like age for over a hundred years. And so it was really expensive. And then someone came in and started stealing it. And then they found out. And so like when they bust this guy, they had put the liquor on the table and were like.

• 35:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:39Laci Mosley?

  And it was so corny. I was like, this is the corniest thing ever. But I want to see y'all pose in front of some makeup, though. That would be funny to me.

• 35:44Speaker 05

  I have to say, I was pulled over one time. I was, I was pulled over and I was terrified because I had so many weird things in my car at the time. I was performing at the Groundlings Theater. And I, so I had like, it looked like I was trying to get away, but then had murdered someone. Like, there were so much stuff in my car. In the front seat, there were, there were so many different costume changes. There were, in the backseat, there was, um, probably 14 wigs. Then there was, um, I had made a costume that looked like I was a giant knife. So just know that's in the backseat.

• 36:26Laci Mosley?

  Okay, wonderful. Large knife.

• 36:27Speaker 05

  Then the trunk, two gallons of fake blood.

• 36:32Laci Mosley?

  This is all normal to me.

• 36:34Speaker 05

  But they, but they were honestly like, I don't even know, I, I assume, and I was like, I, I perform at the Groundlings. I was like pulling up the website. I was like-

• 36:43Laci Mosley?

  No, show them a clip, Jillian. Show them a clip. They'll run away. They'll run away.

• 36:46Speaker 05

  This wig is Kathy. She's just a wild mom. Like, I was just trying to save my butt so hard and finally-

• 36:52Laci Mosley?

  So when they got you off the 72-hour hold?

• 36:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. I think I just kept saying cops. And they were like, okay, she's, she's fine. She's fine.

• 37:00Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 37:01Speaker 05

  Let her go.

• 37:01Laci Mosley?

  That has happened to me. I didn't get pulled over, but I got my car broken into. Yeah, it was very embarrassing because they broke into my car and didn't steal anything, which made me feel so bad. I was, I was at UCB and I was on a mod team, so it was a sketch, you know? And I had tons of wigs back there. Why they throw out one of my, they broke in, they used a pad, a maxi pad. If you're an OG listener, you know this story. I'm making it quick. They used a maxi pad. It was in a garage, not, but my friend's garage. They used a maxi pad. They used a, like a golf club, because we got the camera footage and they broke the windows. So you couldn't really hear the sound and absorb the sound with the pad. I was like, okay, criminals in STEM.

• 37:33Speaker 05

  Pads absorb so much.

• 37:35Laci Mosley?

  Crims in STEM. Not just blood, y'all. They also absorb sound, okay? So they broke into the window and then got in the car. And then all I saw was like this trail of wigs from my car. They didn't steal anything. And I was like, damn, I kind of feel bad that they didn't steal anything because like, damn, they was like, we don't need these cheap, flammable ass wigs. They were like, we wasted a pad. They took the pad with them.

• 37:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, no one would ever break into my car and steal stuff. It was just like all old CDs of like Michael Buble and Josh Groban.

• 38:04Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay. Somebody was at the Starbucks getting the greatest hits. Yeah.

• 38:08Speaker 05

  I was like, um, I will have a venti coffee and Michael Buble's holiday, uh, home for the holidays.

• 38:15Laci Mosley?

  Michael Buble should have pushed his Christmas stuff more. I know Mariah Carey owns Christmas. I hope she didn't shut him down with the powers that be, but uh, but some Buble? I feel like that's for the wine mom on Christmas.

• 38:26Speaker 05

  He was doing those Christmas specials and he was having a lot of guests come out. I don't know if he stopped it or he's just like, I need a break from it, but he needs to come back because they're delightful.

• 38:35Laci Mosley?

  The wine moms need him, okay? Their kids are out of the house. They need him.

• 38:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:40Laci Mosley?

  So he need to come out with a line of scented candles. Buble, I'm offering so many opportunities here. The wine and a scented candle at Gift Basket and the newest Buble.

• 38:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:49Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Buble with Buble.

• 38:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:50Laci Mosley?

  Bubbles with Buble.

• 38:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, champagne Buble.

• 38:53Laci Mosley?

  Champagne Buble.

• 38:54Speaker 05

  I like it.

• 38:55Laci Mosley?

  Okay, TM, okay, if you do that Buble, you better cut me in on them bubbles. Now, so back to what we were talking about, they got a U-Haul, right? To take all this makeup out. I don't like this because like the makeup's not gonna go back to the retailers now.

• 39:08Speaker 05

  Well, that's what I was gonna ask.

• 39:09Laci Mosley?

  Nor will the retailers take it. I gotta find a police auction because I didn't know they might have a baddie skincare over there.

• 39:14Speaker 05

  Wait, a police auction is something I've never thought about in my entire life. Is that a thing?

• 39:19Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 39:21Speaker 05

  So we could go to their auction and buy just so many Fenty products.

• 39:25Laci Mosley?

  You could get a boat, you could get a car with just like minor bullet fragments in it.

• 39:31Speaker 05

  That's okay, just.

• 39:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 39:32Speaker 05

  You just slide in on the other side.

• 39:33Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. Right, you don't need both doors to get in the car. Come on, let's be serious.

• 39:38Speaker 05

  Needs two doors.

• 39:38Laci Mosley?

  I'll get in the backseat and climb to the front.

• 39:41Speaker 05

  That's the stretch. That's the morning stretch of the day.

• 39:43Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. That's the morning stretch is like, especially if you're running late. Oh, yes. So if convicted of these charges, Blanca faces eight years and six months in prison. And she's not the first person, like I said, to get caught operating a storefront for stolen goods in Los Angeles near MacArthur Park on Sixth Street. So Sixth Street's starting to turn like, that's like the crime mall. So you got the crime park. The crime mall should be next to the crime park because like, don't you want a crime Auntie Anne after you, after you did your crime?

• 40:07Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh. A, a half-off Auntie Anne.

• 40:10Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 40:10Speaker 05

  Pretzel stick sounds delightful.

• 40:13Laci Mosley?

  So this ain't, this Auntie Anne, okay? This ain't, ain't, ain't the Anne.

• 40:20Laci Mosley?

  So, there's a resale roll in L.A. In 2023, more than $400,000 worth of stolen merchandise was discovered during a raid at two stores on the same block. Detectives found a stash of goods in the attic of one of the stores on Sixth Street. They had to call in semi-trucks to haul out dozens of boxes from the businesses. One of the stores was a one-stop-shop for stolen goods, mostly taken in smash-and-grab robberies and retail thefts. It had a 75-inch television and smaller TVs from Target stores, cosmetics from Sephora, pallets of energy drinks, and pallets of diapers and sundries. I'm kind of mad about this because as long as these people weren't selling this at... They couldn't have been selling it at resale value.

• 41:03Speaker 05

  No.

• 41:03Laci Mosley?

  I'm hoping there's a discount. And like, if you can't afford the pampers in the store that they have on lockdown with the security guard...

• 41:09Speaker 05

  Right.

• 41:09Laci Mosley?

  Then you could have got you some discount. A pampers, to me, is something that should always be able to be stolen.

• 41:15Speaker 05

  A pampers should just be free.

• 41:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 41:17Speaker 05

  And tampons.

• 41:18Laci Mosley?

  And tampons. Tampons should be free. Pampers should be free.

• 41:21Speaker 05

  Pads should cost something because now they double for when somebody needs to break into a car.

• 41:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, pads now are also something you can use to do crime. So they might need to be a little more expensive.

• 41:31Speaker 05

  But tampons and pampers should be free.

• 41:35Laci Mosley?

  Because nobody's using that but unemployed babies. And unemployed babies deserve to have somewhere to pee.

• 41:40Speaker 05

  You know, I haven't met, now that you say that, a single baby that works.

• 41:45Laci Mosley?

  I've met a couple babies that work.

• 41:46Speaker 05

  Really?

• 41:46Laci Mosley?

  I feel like you have.

• 41:47Speaker 05

  Really?

• 41:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I've met a baby on set that worked.

• 41:49Speaker 05

  Oh, I guess, yeah.

• 41:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I've worked with some employed babies.

• 41:52Speaker 05

  Is that the only babies that work?

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 41:54Speaker 05

  Is that it?

• 41:55Laci Mosley?

  And then the Gerber babies.

• 41:56Speaker 05

  Well, but like, okay, models and actors.

• 41:59Laci Mosley?

  AI now.

• 41:59Speaker 05

  Models and actor babies. Is there any other job for babies?

• 42:03Laci Mosley?

  Um...

• 42:05Speaker 07

  Car seat testing?

• 42:06Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 42:06Speaker 05

  No.

• 42:07Laci Mosley?

  Rich, Rich, we're leaving that in car seat test. You want the baby to be a little baby dumb?

• 42:11Speaker 07

  Stationary testing, I don't know.

• 42:14Speaker 05

  Oh. No, no.

• 42:16Laci Mosley?

  I hope that real babies are not, they're not putting them in a crash.

• 42:19Speaker 05

  We all pictured just full impact hits.

• 42:23Laci Mosley?

  They're like, we put the baby in a helmet.

• 42:24Speaker 05

  Somebody goes up to the parents and goes, yeah, so it didn't work?

• 42:30Laci Mosley?

  But the good news is we know now that it doesn't work, okay?

• 42:33Speaker 05

  We have pieces. Do you need them in a bag?

• 42:36Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no, so dark.

• 42:37Speaker 05

  This is terrible.

• 42:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. Yeah, so, yeah, babies do mostly beauty work.

• 42:43Speaker 05

  It is so funny to think about babies having jobs.

• 42:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 42:46Speaker 05

  Like, I really, did we Google it? There's no other jobs, correct?

• 42:50Laci Mosley?

  I think those are the only jobs for babies, but let's look it up. But I think it's just modeling and acting. But it's interesting to me that a parent would have a fresh baby, because I've held babies that they were fresh out the coochie.

• 43:00Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 43:00Laci Mosley?

  And, and I'm holding like a-

• 43:01Speaker 05

  It's terrifying.

• 43:03Laci Mosley?

  And they usually are twins so that they can get more action out of the little babies.

• 43:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 43:07Laci Mosley?

  And I'm like, you just, you literally just spit this baby out in the other wing, and now I got your baby. What's going on?

• 43:13Speaker 05

  I know. The body is like, holding like a soft serve. Like, you're just, it's just melting through your fingers. You're terrified. You're gonna drop it.

• 43:21Laci Mosley?

  But so, I, I feel like the police should have left the Pampers because babies should have free pee pants. And, and also, I'm mad that I didn't know about this place before they got busted. 2023, I was definitely in L.A. before 2023. I could have been getting me a 75-inch flat screen. You know, I could have got some Sephora products.

• 43:38Speaker 05

  Who knew about Sixth Street being the spot? I had no idea.

• 43:42Laci Mosley?

  Yo, if you live in L.A., DM the scam got his pod page if there's some new pop-ups that we can be seen at, okay? They can't arrest me for shopping. How was I supposed to know that it was a discount?

• 43:52Speaker 05

  Also, how much stuff did they have if they had to get semi trucks?

• 43:56Laci Mosley?

  Well, because they had bought and fenced merchandise for roughly 20 cents on the dollar.

• 44:02Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 44:02Laci Mosley?

  And then turned around and resold it for more. Three people were arrested in those raids. So they're going to different places and just like stealing as much as possible and running out the door and then, you know, selling it for a steep discount. Which, you know, the people need discounts these days. You know, if I find out where these are, y'all, I might put it on the Instagram story like allegedly. Go shop.

• 44:25Speaker 05

  Okay, and I, am I being dim on how this sixty-five-year-old woman was getting these products? Is it, is it sort of the walk-in, grab and get out?

• 44:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's a grab and, and so I have a friend who works in retail. And when she was on the floor before she like moved up to corporate, when we were younger, she said that there were people who would come in and there were rings, like they're crime rings. And these people, we recognize them, they come in pretty often. You can't ban them from the store. You're technically not allowed to chase anyone out of the store who's stealing. They're kind of just hoping that you will get afraid when you hear that. But in reality, they can't, the, the, the security guards can chase a little bit, but they're not supposed to. It's a liability for the store. So they'll come in and a lot of times they'll bring in like a family. Like there'll be a couple of kids, there'll be like two adults, one with a stroller that has no baby in it. And then, um, one with the kids and the adults would distract the employees.

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  And so while the adult and the kids are distracting the employees, you know, tearing up the store, doing whatever, the person with the stroller is just swiping merchandise off of the tables into the stroller and filling it up. And then, once they got their fill, they close the little top on it and they just run out of the store and then push that stroller to, you know, and then, and then you got some other people who are more amateurs and they just run in and they just start grabbing racks of stuff and throwing it over their shoulders and they're out. Yeah.

• 45:39Speaker 05

  I would like to propose a third potential job for a baby. The third job would be that there is a baby in that stroller and the baby's also grabbing things.

• 45:52Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, yeah.

• 45:53Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? The baby, like, there's like two levels. The upper level is just for throwing stuff in from the adult.

• 45:59Laci Mosley?

  Stroller, and then the adult is doing the stealing. And then you have the little baby, and then if you do get caught, you have the little baby holding one of those security tags like.

• 46:09Laci Mosley?

  And then you blame it on the baby.

• 46:10Speaker 05

  Acting like they don't know shit.

• 46:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and be like, I'm sorry, my baby a clip though.

• 46:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, we go, we'll put that one thing back. Bad baby.

• 46:17Laci Mosley?

  Bad baby. Yeah, and then keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 46:21Speaker 05

  I don't know why I want so many babies to have work now.

• 46:24Laci Mosley?

  Listen, they gotta get, the babies yearn for the mines. Okay, we gotta get them, we gotta get them out there.

• 46:29Speaker 05

  If places like Goop are shutting down, we just need to get these babies to work. We need to start earning more money.

• 46:34Laci Mosley?

  See, if y'all want women to have babies, that's what it would be like, but you can get your baby employed immediately. And be like, oh, okay, yeah, I have a baby. Yeah. Is the baby bringing in income? Okay, I have a baby.

• 46:44Speaker 05

  I used to work at, because I'm from Las Vegas, I used to work at the forum shops in Caesar's Palace.

• 46:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes.

• 46:51Speaker 05

  At Banana Republic.

• 46:53Laci Mosley?

  Because you know what? That's what you need when you lose your money and you gotta turn your life around.

• 46:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, you gotta stop by Banana Republic and get a card again. I, I mean, people would steal stuff all the time and they just walk in, they grab a perfume bottle and you just go, oh, ma'am. And they go, nope, no, no, I'm okay. And just walk out. And my favorite one was this woman who walked in and started taking this like long faux fur coat off of a mannequin and it was stapled in and she was still getting it off. It was tacked in and she got it off and I go, oh, ma'am. And she goes, I'm cold. And then just put it on and walked out the store.

• 47:34Laci Mosley?

  Iconic.

• 47:35Speaker 05

  But I'm cold was the funniest thing of like, well, I can justify it. I'm a little cold. I can, I can take this entire jacket and get the hell out of here.

• 47:44Laci Mosley?

  And honestly, in psychology, if you give people an excuse that they have to think about, it slows the conflict down. Because then you're like, wait a minute. And by the time you thought through her thinking process, she already out the door, warm as hell in the Koshi store.

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• 50:02Laci Mosley?

  So makeup theft and resale. Crime overall is declining, but one area that's heating up is organized retail theft, where organized criminal gangs target stores selling things like makeup and cosmetics. Shoplifted goods used to be unloaded through flea markets and pawn shops, but the rise of online shopping has made it easier than ever to turn pilfered products into cash. So organized retail theft attracts smart criminals who see the potential for high financial rewards, plus lenient legal consequences and minimal jail time, because no one is getting hurt except for big companies, and they do have insurance for shrink, so they're not hurting that bad when you take this stuff. Online marketplaces and e-commerce platforms make it easy. Easy for organized criminals to sell stolen merchandise.

• 50:44Laci Mosley?

  So online, you can be more anonymous, easily list products and have a large customer base, AKA the world, where you're selling these discount makeup products. Sophisticated retail crime networks operate across multiple locations and jurisdictions. They usually have a well-established hierarchy, communication channels, and specialized roles within the criminal enterprise, making it more challenging for law enforcement to disrupt their activities. And more often than not, they are targeted, they target one or two beauty stores that might be found next to each other in the same strip mall. So when they hitting the lick, they're going to the same, like they're going to the place where they have a Sephora and an Ulta. So we can go in both, hit our lick, go home.

• 51:20Speaker 05

  I was gonna say, it's interesting because I feel like with shopping malls, there's, you know, an increase in security over purses and sunglasses and things like that where it's you're, you're able to get it. I feel like with makeup and everything, everything's behind the counter, so.

• 51:36Laci Mosley?

  In a drugstore, but not in like a Sephora and an Ulta.

• 51:39Speaker 05

  Ulta, so they're probably the prime targets for something like this.

• 51:43Laci Mosley?

  And the issue is, is that if Sephora and Ulta were ever to start putting locks on things, that would damage their brand. Because if I'm going to a Sephora and an Ulta for my beauty products, there's an assumed level of quality. And there obviously is a much higher price point than if I'm rolling up to the Walgreens, which no shades are rolling up to the Walgreens, because honey, that's where I get my Ardell lashes, which those are still some of the best in the game. And now they have the ones that, because I hate putting on a strip because it's always one is perfect and one is wobbly. But now they have the ones with the sticky stuff underneath, so you just take them off of the thing. And they're individuals, and then you put them under your eyelash and you just press it and it sticks. And you just keep filling it in, you can make whatever kind of eye you want, cat eye, regular eye, just a little flare. And then, wah bam, you a baddie.

• 52:27Speaker 05

  You, you should be getting free stuff.

• 52:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Ardell sponsored the show, because I really do use those lashes, okay? We will be reaching out. And I love them because it's so much easier. A strip for me, it always looks like a stripper, I put too much glue on, it's a little crusty, it's given like a four.

• 52:41Speaker 05

  No, it's the worst. There's always one good eye and one that looks like it just, it got drunk.

• 52:46Laci Mosley?

  It got drunk.

• 52:47Speaker 05

  It, it, it stopped by Taco Bell.

• 52:49Laci Mosley?

  Right, I got one eye that's pregame and we ain't made it to the party. And I'm like, where did you get the alcohol? And then I hate when I get on TikTok and the girlies have their little, um, their little tweezers and they just pop the lash on and it's perfect. I'm like, how do you do that?

• 53:01Speaker 05

  How?

• 53:02Laci Mosley?

  How?

• 53:02Speaker 05

  Years of experience, I guess, but I don't know.

• 53:05Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 53:05Speaker 05

  Wait, okay, so can I ask you this? You're going into a Sephora or an Ulta. What is the thing that if you were like, I can steal one thing, what is it gonna be?

• 53:16Laci Mosley?

  If it's one thing, it's always gonna be skincare products.

• 53:20Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, cuz those are very expensive.

• 53:21Laci Mosley?

  They're probably the most expensive. So it's gonna be my hyaluronic acid, it's gonna be my retinol, my night cream. Like, I'm definitely going for those. Then I would say like maybe flat irons or definitely perfume. Yeah, but those retail-y stores don't sell the perfumes that I wear, so.

• 53:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 53:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but I, but you know, that's, that would be my main go-to. What about you?

• 53:44Speaker 05

  Oh, gosh, I wouldn't know where to. You know what? I would do something really stupid. Like, I feel like I would go to NARS and just get all their lip pencils cuz I love them so much. They're so good. Or Pat McGrath, those long, the eye, the eye makeup.

• 54:00Laci Mosley?

  That's the only one I wear because Pat McGrath, a black woman, shout out to a black queen. Y'all don't steal from my black queen, Pat McGrath. Actually, though, I think you have to buy the Pat McGrath first, so maybe it's okay cuz we technically just stealing from Ulta and not Pat cuz she already got her cut. Let me look into the research.

• 54:13Speaker 05

  She already got her cut.

• 54:14Laci Mosley?

  Cuz we can't be stealing from our black queens.

• 54:15Speaker 05

  I know.

• 54:16Laci Mosley?

  But she has the, cuz I have yellow, a lot of yellow on my skin, so I can't wear most eyeliners because I have darker skin and they come off kinda gray or not the stark black that I want. But Pat McGrath got that stark black eyeliner pen. And it's a felt pen, so I don't gotta do all the powder to like brush. And it's just like one swipe and I'm like, zhuh.

• 54:34Speaker 05

  Instagram videos of her. Those Instagram videos where she just is like, oh, we did a smokey eye, but wait. Green glitter right in the middle is like the most beautiful thing you've ever, if you haven't seen it, look it up and just.

• 54:48Laci Mosley?

  Pat McGrath is where it's at. Oh, my goodness. Okay, so you, you got taste. That's a good theft moment. I like that theft moment for you and for me. And, and so I understand why this would be a high market cuz they're smaller products, easier to transport, and you can put them at a slightly higher price point, and you're getting a five finger discount. So this is basically all profit. Other than the gas it took to, you know, come into them all. So an $8 million theft ring from Ulta and Sephora is our next stop here. So in January of this year, 2025, a 54-year-old, I love that the girlies are in their

• 55:20Speaker 05

  I love it.

• 55:21Laci Mosley?

  50s and their 60s because this is giving organized, it's giving my kids are in college, and it's giving, you know, I'm an entrepreneur.

• 55:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 55:30Laci Mosley?

  Entrepreneur. The new her. Yes.

• 55:33Speaker 05

  I'm proud of it. It feels like very like, well, Thelma and Louise were still younger, but it just feels like, I don't know, there's something feminist about this.

• 55:41Laci Mosley?

  I love it. So she's, this is a San Diego mom. See, I knew she was a mother.

• 55:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 55:46Laci Mosley?

  Michelle Mack.

• 55:47Speaker 05

  Barbara Heinrich.

• 55:48Laci Mosley?

  Right. Barbara, I feel like Barbara and Michelle would get along great. Now, look at Michelle Heinrich. I want to say that for 54, she, her skin looks great.

• 55:57Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 55:57Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 55:58Speaker 05

  Tight.

• 55:58Laci Mosley?

  Tight. It looks tight. You know what I mean? And she's definitely, like, the pores look very clear. You know, her teeth look fantastic.

• 56:05Speaker 05

  She's got a nice eyebrow shape.

• 56:06Laci Mosley?

  She's got a great eyebrow shape. And, and you know, lips looking moisturized.

• 56:11Speaker 05

  Real teeth or fake teeth?

• 56:12Laci Mosley?

  Uh, it's given they might be fake just because they're all the same length.

• 56:16Speaker 05

  And, and color.

• 56:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but I also, they're good fake teeth. It's not giving me like a Gucci Mane. I love your Gucci Mane, but you do got them chompers. Um, but you know, it's not giving me like, I'm a rapper and I just went to, you know, Atlanta and got my veneers.

• 56:32Speaker 05

  And I gotta give a shout out to my lady, because she's got a, an active sunspot and I do too, so.

• 56:37Laci Mosley?

  It's beautiful.

• 56:38Speaker 05

  It's beautiful.

• 56:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so I'm, I'm into you right now, Michelle Mack. So she was sentenced, no, not sentenced to life, man. No, don't take Michelle. She was sentenced to five years and four months in state prison. That's some bullshit. Put my sister Michelle in federal, federalities. Okay, she needs to be able to golf and, and, and to get her Martha Stewart on. I can't believe y'all put my girl in a state pen like she was just a, like a regular, you know, murderer or something. This is terrible. So she was put in for five years and four months for masterminding an organized cosmetics theft ring that cost makeup stores $8 million over a 10-year period. Over 10 years, 8 million, that ain't enough. That's not a lot. Y'all need to leave my queen Michelle alone, okay? She was just giving, she was another distributor, okay?

• 57:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:22Laci Mosley?

  That's all. She was distributing. And over 10 years, like, y'all petty as hell. And I realized that this is probably one of the crime rings that women do get caught in, because a lot of times in scams, if it's something that's technical, involves computers, if it's anything that men can be sexist around, cops typically don't catch the woman because they- Think, oh, a woman couldn't be smart enough to do this. But because this is makeup, they were like, well, women wear makeup. And then they threw the bucket, my sis.

• 57:48Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 57:48Laci Mosley?

  They threw the library at her.

• 57:49Speaker 05

  Excuse me, cops, have you ever seen The Net starring Sandra Bullock? That's a whole movie that has to do with computers that I don't remember the premise of.

• 57:59Laci Mosley?

  But this is where I want misogyny to come into play all the time, like for crimes. I want them to be like, ladies, it's too stupid to do organized crime syndicate.

• 58:06Speaker 05

  And then we tiptoe out.

• 58:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, in our heels. It's like, ooh, I was so scared of all the crime happening here, Mr. Officer. Thank you so much for helping us. Bye-bye.

• 58:13Speaker 05

  We're so glad we have cops around.

• 58:16Laci Mosley?

  As I walk out, bubbly, ooh, a boobity, boobity, boo. That's where all my brain cells are. Like, I want us to get away with this. So Michelle ran a burglary ring that had at least 12 women shoplifting makeup and other goods at, that the Max would resell online. So I don't like burglary because I always think burglary, and I think of home burglary.

• 58:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 58:37Laci Mosley?

  But, and I think of like, what, what, I would call it breaking and entering or something else for like a store.

• 58:42Speaker 05

  I think of the McDonald's. What's, what's the McDonald's guy burglar?

• 58:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Hamburglar?

• 58:48Speaker 05

  The Hamburglar, that's what I think of.

• 58:49Laci Mosley?

  I hope they all wore black and white and just like tiptoed out.

• 58:53Speaker 05

  I just love the idea that they all had little tiny like neckerchiefs on.

• 58:56Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 58:57Speaker 05

  And they were all like, ladies, let's do this.

• 58:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah. Everybody puts one hand in the, now.

• 59:04Speaker 05

  I'm gonna take some.

• 59:06Laci Mosley?

  Michelle, get the brick.

• 59:13Speaker 05

  I'm gonna steal some blush. I'm gonna get my crush to make me look real nice.

• 59:20Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna steal eyeliner to make my sisters finer. I'm gonna rob this out of town. Oh, yes. The best thing about being a woman is having a little fun.

• 59:32Speaker 05

  Breaking the Sephora, stealing a little more.

• 59:41Speaker 05

  Go to Ulta, do what I dare. No, that didn't work.

• 59:45Laci Mosley?

  I think that's when you gotta start listening like, Urban Decay, Chanel and May.

• 59:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 59:49Laci Mosley?

  Oh, what?

• 59:50Speaker 05

  You're doing it right. You're doing it right.

• 59:54Laci Mosley?

  Stealing these products to feel the way I feel. Damn, I feel like a scammer. Woo, woo. Yeah, yes. We gotta get our album together.

• 1:00:04Speaker 05

  I feel like a burglar.

• 1:00:06Laci Mosley?

  Who cares? I feel like a burglar.

• 1:00:10Laci Mosley?

  Yep, and then the alarm goes off and they're like, come on ladies, seriously, now get serious.

• 1:00:13Speaker 05

  No, we gotta go.

• 1:00:14Laci Mosley?

  I love you. We gotta get our album together, Julie.

• 1:00:18Speaker 05

  I can't wait. I can't wait.

• 1:00:19Laci Mosley?

  So.

• 1:00:19Speaker 05

  It's the first track. That's the first track. You heard it here.

• 1:00:21Laci Mosley?

  Yes, you did first. That was the early drop. So they targeted retail stores across the country, including hundreds of Ulta's, Mini Sephora's, and one LensCrafters in Claremont.

• 1:00:30Speaker 05

  LensCrafters?

• 1:00:32Laci Mosley?

  Listen, they gotta get them lenses. And I honestly love this so much because as a woman stealing these things, obviously, you're gonna know what the girls are buying and what they're not buying.

• 1:00:44Speaker 05

  I gotta talk about LensCrafters for a second. I'm sorry.

• 1:00:48Laci Mosley?

  The girls need good lenses.

• 1:00:49Speaker 05

  LensCrafters has like...

• 1:00:51Laci Mosley?

  She's 54, you know, the vision's first of all.

• 1:00:53Speaker 05

  At most, what, 150 glasses out? So like, imagine if you've taken 50. Someone's gonna be like, um, ma'am, uh, what's in your bag? Because all of the right side of the store is gone.

• 1:01:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I feel like they gotta come in quick. It's like 10 of them, they're fresh off brunch, high on mimosas, and they're all like trying them on. Like, we're at a bachelorette party. And then all of a sudden, it's you in the store, like you were working in Vegas, and you're like, oh, ma'am, you can't wear those glasses out of the store. And she turns around, she says, I can't see! And then...

• 1:01:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:25Laci Mosley?

  And then everybody's just gone. And you're like, well, they couldn't see.

• 1:01:28Speaker 05

  She still says, I'm cold.

• 1:01:30Laci Mosley?

  I'm cold.

• 1:01:30Speaker 05

  And I go, wait, in that case, it doesn't work.

• 1:01:32Laci Mosley?

  But while you're thinking about how it doesn't work, she already gone.

• 1:01:35Speaker 05

  She's gone. She's gone.

• 1:01:36Laci Mosley?

  She's already gone. Okay. So Michelle directed several women to shoplift products, paying for their travel expenses, as well as providing them with a list of retail stores across the country to target. She was organized, and she paid for travel. Come on, per diem, per scheme. So some of Michelle's accomplices mailed stolen goods to a post office where Michelle had a company address listed under online makeup store. She then resold the products on Amazon for a fraction of their retail price. Damn, I bought some stuff off Amazon. I might have bought from Michelle. So Michelle and her husband Kenneth were arrested in their San Diego mansion after a search warrant was served in December of 2023. During the search, authorities found more than $300,000 worth of makeup. We have a little video here. It's short. We're just gonna see a little video of them on the news page.

• 1:02:19Laci Mosley?

  While that's being pulled up, I will say that Michelle was also ordered to pay $3 million in restitution to Ulta and Sephora.

• 1:02:26Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:02:27Laci Mosley?

  And those stores needed it. People literally won't stop stealing from them. Oh damn, I didn't know they was stealing from y'all like that. This is video of Michelle and Kenneth Mack arrested in December at their Bonzo Mansion. Oh man, her husband. They rented it out as a wedding venue and an Airbnb. But according to a search warrant, it also doubled as a stash house for a small fortune.

• 1:02:49Speaker 05

  Very organized.

• 1:02:50Laci Mosley?

  Stolen from major retail stores across the country.

• 1:02:52Speaker 05

  Nars, there it is.

• 1:02:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, there's the Nars. We, one, her husband's giving me like wonderful beta energy of like, I bet you he organized the storehouse. He knew that they didn't need to get a trap in the hood. They got a nice wedding venue and you didn't even know you were doing your first dance over just so much stolen booty.

• 1:03:09Speaker 05

  So much stolen stuff. They're just windows for days, those two.

• 1:03:14Laci Mosley?

  I, oh, I love it, just living out loud. So there's another $2 million theft ring from Ulta and Sephora. Okay, Ulta and Sephora, I can't be on company's side unless you sponsor the show. I love shopping at those stores. Um, I do, I was actually at an Ulta the other day.

• 1:03:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're fantastic. I also love them.

• 1:03:29Laci Mosley?

  Yes, but last year investigators in New York broke up a $2 million makeup crime ring led by a married couple. I love that y'all keeping it in the family. Kristoff, Christopher Guzman.

• 1:03:37Speaker 05

  Yes, the Goos.

• 1:03:39Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and Evelyns Guzman Batista. Okay, she got two last names. I know that's right. She said, I'm keeping my last name because I'm a bad bitch. So now we're looking at some, some lip balms that they have in a bowl. Um, so under the business name, which that doesn't look too professional to me, like y'all was stealing lip balms, that's, that's for children. Children steal the balms.

• 1:03:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, just keeping them in a bucket too. With the bottom of stairs, I don't know about this operation.

• 1:04:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, there's stairs, like y'all just got a bomb bucket at the bottom of the stairs. Y'all need a, a storage closet like my girl had, okay? The Marx were doing it right. So under the business name, Evelyns Fashion LLC, they sold stolen merchandise, including makeup, perfume, and beauty products in New York for over two years. Now, if you only got away in two years in New York, y'all was really fucking up because there's people out on the streets selling fake purses and they put them in a blanket and as soon as they see the cops, that blanket gets scooped up, thrown over their shoulder, and they just skipping down the street to their next location. Okay, that's a real pop-up.

• 1:04:34Laci Mosley?

  Yes, so this is our last video here. We have Queens County DA listing the stores targeted by this specific crime ring. Alleged retail theft ring specifically targeted Alta Beauty, Sephora, Macy's, American Eagle, and other well-known retailers. So that was the police putting the makeup on the table. That was their photo op with that makeup.

• 1:04:57Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:04:58Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, they did not put enough makeup on the table because to me, this doesn't even look like one of those home parties you would have when you slang an Avon or something. Like, the Avon lady got more than that in her trunk, like...

• 1:05:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, I wish they were doing like a full-on music video to Fergie's Glamorous.

• 1:05:10Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:05:11Speaker 05

  That's what I want with all the products.

• 1:05:12Laci Mosley?

  And I want them to have it in the U-Haul, and then they have like a videographer come in there and it's like, "G-L-A-M, Sephora, stuffs, yeah." Yeah, that's what I want. So they paid truck drivers to divert makeup headed for Sephora and Alta stores. Okay, so now we're getting more technical. They weren't going to the stores and breaking in. They were like, "Hey, miss, the truck driver, go ahead and..." They got it really falling off the truck.

• 1:05:37Speaker 05

  Oh, my good... Oh, so they were just waiting for them to pull up and go,

• 1:05:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:41Speaker 05

  "Back it up over here."

• 1:05:42Laci Mosley?

  They giving the truck driver a cut, and then things are falling off the truck.

• 1:05:45Speaker 05

  I like this.

• 1:05:46Laci Mosley?

  I love this.

• 1:05:46Speaker 05

  I like when it becomes more people involved.

• 1:05:49Laci Mosley?

  And I definitely have purchased from this. I've told you on the past, if you're a new listener, but there was a man called the Mac Man who would come to our house. And I just thought we were rich and fancy, and he would have Mac products and all the new stuff, and we would buy it from him directly. And I just thought, because you know how rich people will have like stylists come over with clothes?

• 1:06:02Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:06:02Laci Mosley?

  They can buy like in their homes.

• 1:06:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:04Laci Mosley?

  So I thought we was just balling in the burbs, and he would come over and we would buy Mac products from the Mac Man. And then he disappeared after a while. So, you know, he probably got caught.

• 1:06:13Laci Mosley?

  But...

• 1:06:13Speaker 05

  R.I.P. the Mac Man.

• 1:06:15Laci Mosley?

  R.I.P. the Mac Man. He was a good guy. So they were stealing from, directly from manufacturers and warehouses. Christopher and Elvalise got up to $50,000 worth of stolen goods each week, and apparently paid theft crews between 10 and 15% of the retail value. See, this is what I'm talking about, payer workers, okay? You know, when we were talking about Michelle, she was giving everybody a per diem to go do their thefts and organized lists. And over here, when we're talking about Elvalise and her boo, Christopher, they were giving a cut a percentage. Cut to the truck drivers and I love that. That's ethical. So they

• 1:06:49Speaker 05

  The one ethical thing they're doing.

• 1:06:51Laci Mosley?

  Right. The stolen cosmetics were then cataloged and sold in New York through online advertisements and via brick and mortar boutique called Elvalise Fashion in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. So she was also given this international.

• 1:07:03Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:07:04Laci Mosley?

  Shipping these products to Santo Domingo and she had a brick and mortar there and ain't nobody asking in Santo Domingo where these products came from. I'm not okay. That's we don't got to pay no taxes for them to come.

• 1:07:14Speaker 05

  They go, wait, wait. Is this from Sephora?

• 1:07:20Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, we ain't asking where it's from. I ain't never gone in the store and asked where something was from. And so this is a photo here. Is this the store in Santo Domingo? Yeah, let's zoom in on that. Okay. I like the store's architecture. You can definitely tell these products are stolen because there's not multiples of any item. It's like you gotta come and get the one we got or you not getting it. Oh, I would be there every time they got a new shipment because I got to see what they got.

• 1:07:41Speaker 05

  I know. And, and if you don't get the one, you get the none.

• 1:07:44Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And so then also to wrap this up, in December of last year, police in Elk Grove, California chased a thief out of an altar and into a Sephora where he also stole. And we have one last link here.

• 1:07:57Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:07:58Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:07:58Speaker 05

  He went from one to the other?

• 1:08:00Laci Mosley?

  Because I told you they're not supposed to chase you.

• 1:08:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:02Laci Mosley?

  Very far.

• 1:08:03Speaker 05

  But this guy did.

• 1:08:04Laci Mosley?

  So this was the popo. The popo can chase.

• 1:08:07Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:08Laci Mosley?

  So instead of getting in his car as he's running from the police, I definitely need some of that.

• 1:08:12Speaker 05

  He's got a, he's got the lead right now.

• 1:08:15Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:08:15Speaker 05

  He could have made it to his car.

• 1:08:16Laci Mosley?

  Benny Hill. He's definitely got the lead. Why? And the cops got to go back to their cars. That's gonna take forever. Like, bro.

• 1:08:22Speaker 05

  He's like, oh.

• 1:08:23Laci Mosley?

  And if he's running that fast, he can't have that much product on him.

• 1:08:26Speaker 05

  I, I really feel like it's like one of those things where your husband and you're like, oh, Michelle is gonna be so pissed if I don't stop at the second location. I promised her both.

• 1:08:37Laci Mosley?

  Look how fast he's running. Sorry, go to your car.

• 1:08:40Speaker 05

  He's fast.

• 1:08:41Laci Mosley?

  If you don't get your car, Usain Bolt.

• 1:08:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Laci Mosley?

  I mean, overall, Julian, final thoughts on these schemes? How do you feel about these? Like, and from a 10 to your limo scam being the, like, nicest, safest?

• 1:08:57Speaker 05

  I feel like they're like a six or a seven. Like, I feel like they're naughty, but like, they don't mean to be. They're just looking for new opportunities, these ladies. And I like that it's ladies. And I like that, like, it's organized. And we don't know this for sure, but they have matching outfits. At least in my imagination.

• 1:09:16Laci Mosley?

  In my mind's eye, they have matching outfits.

• 1:09:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, they have matching outfits. And, um, yeah, I mean, it's just like girls wanting to be girls.

• 1:09:23Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and also they're taking care of their employees at their crime syndicate.

• 1:09:26Speaker 05

  Yes, they are. They are. Most people are.

• 1:09:28Laci Mosley?

  I bet you they have a casual Friday.

• 1:09:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:09:30Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean? Casual theft, casual Friday.

• 1:09:32Speaker 05

  Oh, they sure have, like, pizza Saturdays.

• 1:09:35Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes. You gotta get some pizza after you rob several stores in multiple cities.

• 1:09:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, and you know the girls only have one slice? And they have a big, like, little heaping of salad.

• 1:09:44Laci Mosley?

  Yes. I hope they have a leaderboard where the winner, like, the employee criminal of the month gets like, criminal of the month gets like a bonus.

• 1:09:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:09:51Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, well, Sally, everyone giving up for Sally? She stole 6,000 products this week.

• 1:09:58Speaker 05

  And she's like, I couldn't have done it without you guys' support.

• 1:10:02Laci Mosley?

  The group chat means so much to me. And whoever told me to go for the skincare, like, that really just changed the game.

• 1:10:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:13Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Julian, this has been a blast. Thank you so much for coming on.

• 1:10:17Speaker 05

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:10:18Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and so now I have to ask you, where would you like to be found? Anything you want people to watch, any social media, all the things?

• 1:10:25Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh, I am on Instagram.

• 1:10:28Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:10:29Speaker 05

  @jillianbell. But I think the thing that I want more than anything for my whole life is for you to go on Hulu

• 1:10:37Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:10:38Speaker 05

  and watch Summer of 69. It is coming out May 9th. Uh, it is my directorial debut.

• 1:10:44Laci Mosley?

  What's it about a little bit?

• 1:10:45Speaker 05

  It is about a sexually inexperienced Teenager who hires a local stripper to help her land the guy of her dreams the last week of school.

• 1:10:52Laci Mosley?

  Beautiful.

• 1:10:53Speaker 05

  And it's so it's very John Hughes ish. That's what we went for and it's starring Chloé Feynman from SNL.

• 1:11:00Laci Mosley?

  I love Chloé Feynman.

• 1:11:02Speaker 05

  And Sam Morelos and Charlie Day and Paula Pell, Nicole Byer, Liza Koshy, Natalie Morales, Alex Moffett. We got an incredible.

• 1:11:09Laci Mosley?

  All the great comedians.

• 1:11:10Speaker 05

  Cast, Matt Cornet, everyone is so good in this film and it's a good time and the world feels like it's ending. And there's scams everywhere. So go on and have like a light fun time. It's on Hulu and it's, it's not for any specific age group. It's for everybody.

• 1:11:26Laci Mosley?

  We all need a light fun time and I'm so glad that you're bringing back those fun types of movies that we used to have in the 2000s. Like where you watch something and you laugh and you think a little bit, but you have a great time.

• 1:11:36Speaker 05

  You have a good time.

• 1:11:37Laci Mosley?

  Feeling good.

• 1:11:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what we want. And we've had a few screenings, we were at South by Southwest. And people leave like cheering so hard and I was like, ah, this is all we've ever wanted is for people to feel good and have a good time. And it's a coming of age story for two different ages, 18 and 28. And I'm just, like I said, I'm 40 and I, I'm in a coming of age myself. Like I think we're constantly evolving and changing.

• 1:12:01Laci Mosley?

  Coming of age, okay.

• 1:12:01Speaker 05

  Of like, oh, now I have to figure out this part of my life. And so there's a bit of that, but it really is such a good time. And I really hope people check it out. I'm so proud of it.

• 1:12:12Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I can't wait to watch it. I seriously can't because I, this is like my jam and I love all those comedians. So yes, so congratulations on your first, your directorial debut. I'm sure it's one of many, many, many, many, many. You're such a wild generational talent. What can't you do?

• 1:12:24Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:12:25Laci Mosley?

  Okay, she does everything serial entrepreneur. We love to have them on the show. As always, y'all, search on your friends, family and your enemies at [email protected]. Just make sure Scam is retired because we don't want to what? Yes, fuck up your bag. And if you want to watch the television series Scam Goddess, all episodes are streaming now on Hulu. If you want to watch me in Going Dutch where I play a Sergeant Dana Conway, wonder what that's about? Watch Going Dutch, also streaming on Hulu. And you can get my book, Scam Goddess, wherever you purchase things that you read. And it's also an audio book if you'd like to listen to it on your drives and learn about my own personal crimes and some of my. Favorite ones throughout history. And if you're in Nashville, Tennessee, pull up on me at the Global Fraud Conference. I will be there doing a whole talk about fraud. Y'all are gonna learn, I know a lot more about this than what I talk about on this show,

• 1:13:10Laci Mosley?

  uh, little by little. And I will be doing a book signing after the show. So come say hello and get your book signed.

• 1:13:16Speaker 05

  What don't, what don't you do? Jesus Christ, that was so many, I'm so proud of you. I'm like your mom.

• 1:13:23Laci Mosley?

  Oh my goodness, I'm like your mom.

• 1:13:25Speaker 05

  But we need to rest. We need to rest.

• 1:13:27Laci Mosley?

  All right, congregation, I want y'all to get out there. And don't stop the scheming, okay? Hold on to that feeling, yes?

• 1:13:40Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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