Lousy Landlords & Beautiful Baddies w/ Amber Wallin

What do lousy landlords, a beautiful improviser, a scam-call prankster, and a self-led investigator have in common? You! Laci teams up with the hilarious Amber Wallin (Quit Playin’ with Jazmyn and Amber Podcast) to read your listener letters, and they’re packed with beautiful baddies, hater friends, unemployed escapades, and fart machines. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Scam Goddess LIVE in a city near you. Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Amber Wallin: @burr_iam Curated by Jessica Cisneros Listener Letters by YOU SOURCES https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/landlords-bankruptcy-protection-ontario-1.7234290 https://www.villagereport.ca/village-picks/group-of-everyday-canadians-unite-to-buy-sid-development-properties-in-the-sault-and-beyond-10144944 Lastly: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2085421/ontario-landlords-hand-over-control-of-real-estate-empire-after-allegation-of-misappropriated-investor-funds

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:04Laci Mosley?

  Hey, what's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scamcot, is coming back to you with a podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them, most of the time, we laugh at them. Congregation, you already know that I'm very what? Yes, I am excited, I am thrilled. We have a fan favorite, a deaconess in the congregation blessing the show again. I also want to thank y'all for the love on the Apple reviews. Y'all got me blushing out here. Please don't forget to tell your friends and spread the good gospel. And I appreciate y'all rating the show. You're doing a lovely thing for a black woman. If that's all you can do today, is give me five stars on Apple Podcasts. You've done your activism for today. You can tell everybody, you can screenshot.

• 1:48Laci Mosley?

  I'll be like, no, they did their activism for today. But today, we have an amazing comedian, host, and storyteller on the show. You've heard her on Quit Plan with Jasmine W. And you can catch her on the move this year. Y'all can catch her out in the wild. She also has a child named Boy.

• 2:04Speaker 03

  Right, right.

• 2:06Laci Mosley?

  She's in the middle of a stand-up tour right now, so get out there and get in those seats. And again, support a black queen. Congregation, please welcome my friend Amber Wallin back to the show. Amber!

• 2:17Speaker 03

  Ay, I'm so happy to be here. Look at me looking around, don't know where the camera is. You can probably see the back of my head. Lacey, I'm so happy to be here with you. You look great.

• 2:26Laci Mosley?

  Thank you.

• 2:26Speaker 03

  And y'all at home, y'all can't smell Lacey from your cars and the things. Lacey Mosley smells amazing.

• 2:32Laci Mosley?

  That's my scam. You know, scent is deeply connected to memories. So if you remember me smelling good, then your memories of me are automatically more fond.

• 2:39Speaker 03

  When are you dropping the perfume line, for real?

• 2:41Laci Mosley?

  I'm trying to make one. I literally like got kind of scammed by this perfume studio. Like, they didn't show up. I guess they had an emergency or something. And then I needed to reschedule, but I was in Ireland for four months. So now I'm getting them back. I've already paid for the class. And now they're not responding to my emails. So it's giving, I'm gonna have to just pull up on the studio.

• 2:58Speaker 03

  Wait, so they didn't follow up with you?

• 2:59Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 2:59Speaker 03

  And they rescheduled?

• 3:00Laci Mosley?

  They told me they had a family emergency when I showed up in person. And I was like, hello, I'm trying to make my dreams come true.

• 3:07Speaker 03

  Right.

• 3:08Laci Mosley?

  And then no one was there. And they didn't send me an email. So then when I got in touch with them, they're like, oh, we had a family emergency. And I was like, okay, I completely understand, but I gotta go away for four months. But I still want to take this class that I fully already paid for. So, you know, we're working on it.

• 3:18Speaker 03

  There wasn't one member that could have emailed me?

• 3:21Laci Mosley?

  It feels very mom and pop-ish of like, I don't think it's really a lot of people up in there, the chemists.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  And you still just, you have paid for this class?

• 3:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  And how long ago was this?

• 3:31Laci Mosley?

  This was like five, six months ago.

• 3:33Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 3:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 3:34Speaker 03

  Now, you are the goddess of scams now, so is this a scam?

• 3:38Laci Mosley?

  I think I got scammed because they're not responding to the email. But that's okay because I already had an address of the business location. So I, you know, I can just be outside.

• 3:45Speaker 03

  Listen.

• 3:45Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean?

• 3:46Speaker 03

  Oh, I hate that.

• 3:47Laci Mosley?

  Ain't nothing but facing opportunity in bushes.

• 3:49Speaker 03

  When somebody plays with me and I have your address?

• 3:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  Like, what are you doing? Like, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm crazy, but I do have your address in case my eyes start twitching.

• 3:58Laci Mosley?

  Right. And I, look, I'm not saying I'm crazy either. I'm just saying, you know, you got a bush in front of your house, I stand behind it and wait for you to come home.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  I'm bush-shaped, actually.

• 4:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I am bush-shaped. I can get real low.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  I'm fun-sized for the bushes.

• 4:13Laci Mosley?

  Now, I have to ask you, obviously, we talked just a little bit about me being scammed. But what's your relationship with scams right now? Has anything come across your desk? Have you, have you been scammed? Hopefully not like I was with this perfume studio that I'm about to slide on. But, you know, it can literally be anything.

• 4:30Speaker 03

  I feel like I've always scammed into housing situations. I'm sure that's a common one.

• 4:37Laci Mosley?

  You're scamming your way in, or they scam you?

• 4:38Speaker 03

  I'm getting scammed. I see the pictures online. I do a walk through. Now, one summer, I got got, Lacey. Like, and I needed to move into this space. Of course, I waited to the last minute. So, you know how you put yourself in that position where you're like, I gotta move in two weeks?

• 4:51Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 4:52Speaker 03

  So, you go, you go do a walk through and, and you see some things aren't done and this needs to be painted and whatever. And landlord's like, you know, if you give me that deposit, all this stuff will be taken care of when you move in on day one. So, you know me, I'm, I'm cool. Great. I'll see you in two weeks. We get to two weeks. Not an area thing has been painted. Window panels ain't up. I'm talking, this happened to me in Chicago. I'm talking, it wasn't even no lock. You know how you have a doorknob? Do you know what a doorknob is, Lacey?

• 5:20Laci Mosley?

  I, I'm familiar with a knob, a knob of a door.

• 5:22Speaker 03

  You may have seen a knob or two on a door. This place didn't have a doorknob.

• 5:27Laci Mosley?

  So, it was just like the hole?

• 5:29Speaker 03

  Of the hole.

• 5:29Laci Mosley?

  And you could see through the other side where the house was?

• 5:32Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:33Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Now, Amber, I don't wanna pause you here, but I just feel like... When you said window treatments and maybe painting, I was with you. I was on the ride. I had my hands up. I was like, whee. But when you said he was gonna get you some doorknobs for the door.

• 5:51Speaker 03

  Cause you know, you know, here it is because we all have an uncle that's like, oh, yeah, that, like, if, if you put your, if you put your knuckles on the ground, he could have probably got all that stuff with a few men together.

• 6:01Laci Mosley?

  Knobs just feel essential.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  Knob, a knob is essential. I would say the, the place was in worse condition than when I went to visit it.

• 6:09Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 6:10Speaker 03

  Right. But see, the other lease was already up.

• 6:12Laci Mosley?

  So, he tried to zhuzh it up for y'all to walk through.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  Now, here's what happened.

• 6:16Laci Mosley?

  He had a knob when y'all came.

• 6:16Speaker 03

  He had a knob and then I think he took that knob. He was like, ooh, that was just the staging. The knob was a part of the staging.

• 6:22Laci Mosley?

  That knob is from his house.

• 6:23Speaker 03

  That, he said, if I could just...

• 6:24Laci Mosley?

  His wife pissed off like, babe, why we don't got no knob in the bathroom? Well, I'm gonna bring it back.

• 6:28Speaker 03

  It, you know what, and now that I'm looking back, it probably was like a handle versus a knob. Like, like, one of these things are not like the others. So I moved in, I had to stay in this location for four months.

• 6:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, wow.

• 6:39Speaker 03

  Now, I will say this, because you can't scam me for too long. I stayed in this location, I gave him a list of things. I said, "The following list of things needs to be done in order for you to receive another payment from me."

• 6:50Laci Mosley?

  Okay, because now you got him on the hook.

• 6:52Speaker 03

  Now I got him on the hook. I said, "I'm not paying you another dime until the following things are done." And so he never actually took care of the following. He would try to take care of them, but it was just, it was like a house of horrors. Like, for example, one time, I said, "Hey, you told me that my room would have a new paint job, Lacey. This happened to me." I said, "You told me my, my room would have a paint job." So I said, "Can you get somebody to paint the room by the end of the week?" He said, "I can start with that. Done. I got you." I go to work.

• 7:19Speaker 03

  He sends his nephew over to paint the room. The nephew came over. Now, I would have been cool if it was just your nephew.

• 7:25Laci Mosley?

  Is he Sherwin-Williams?

• 7:27Speaker 03

  Nephew and girlfriend came over. When I came back home, they were still painting the room. There was one bucket of paint and one brush, but they weren't painting, Lacey. They were in my bed, they were drinking my wine.

• 7:39Laci Mosley?

  They were drinking your wine?

• 7:41Speaker 03

  And this will tell you what kind of year it was, or, or when this happened. It was a pink Moscato out of my fridge, okay? So think about when you were drinking pink Moscato, thinking you were that girl. So not only were they in my bed, not painting, they were painting in a proverbial sense. They were also drinking my, my pink Moscato. You know, I paid my good $5.99 for that. So...

• 8:02Laci Mosley?

  Also, like, how do they think in that economy, in the girlies who buy pink Moscato at that time, that they're not gonna notice that you just sipped on the pink Moscato? We're gonna notice immediately.

• 8:10Speaker 03

  And now, mind you, I just moved in. Wasn't even nothing in the fridge but the pink Moscato. So, but I did get away with four months of not paying rent.

• 8:20Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 8:20Speaker 03

  Because I said, "Until these things are fixed, I'm not paying."

• 8:23Laci Mosley?

  So you scammed him back?

• 8:24Speaker 03

  I scammed him back. So I put up with the lions, the tigers and bears, but I saved four months' worth of rent and then I moved into the next spot.

• 8:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and sometimes you had to deal with some drifters, uh, drinking wine in your bed.

• 8:35Speaker 03

  Drift, girl, it was everything. It was mice.

• 8:37Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, one night you could sleep in my bed with some wine, maybe, for free rent. Just one night, right?

• 8:43Speaker 03

  Just one night.

• 8:43Laci Mosley?

  One bottle of Moscato?

• 8:44Speaker 03

  Look, I want everybody, I'm always thinking about people listening to this in their car. Everybody in their car right now, pull over and calculate four months of rent. And ask yourself, would you put up with the nephew painting with his girlfriend in your bed for four months of rent?

• 8:59Laci Mosley?

  For four months of rent?

• 9:00Speaker 03

  I think, I think they were, they were saying, baby.

• 9:02Laci Mosley?

  Now you also just ran over something real quick. I think I heard rats?

• 9:05Speaker 03

  Mice, mice, mice.

• 9:06Laci Mosley?

  Okay, mice.

• 9:07Speaker 03

  I feel like Cat Williams is like, prison and jail are not the same. Mice, yeah, it was, yeah, girl.

• 9:12Laci Mosley?

  They're the yesified rats. Like, mice are cute. They're in Disney movies.

• 9:15Speaker 03

  Lacey, you're far too classy for things like this, but have you ever had a mouse in your house?

• 9:20Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 9:21Speaker 03

  Girl, let me describe, you know, you laughing. Let me describe to you. Rich done had a mouse or two, and I'm hoping that you've gotten rid of them.

• 9:31Laci Mosley?

  Are you even sure he's gotten rid of them?

• 9:34Speaker 03

  Me and Rich know the, the, the, the mental turmoil of having a mouse in your house. Because it is a, it is a, it is a symbol, if you will, that you have no control of your life. I, I truly believe that. Because you can clean up as much as you want. It's something wrong with the infrastructure.

• 9:50Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 9:51Speaker 03

  When a mouse comes in there. So it's, it's, it's psychological warfare where you're cleaning every day and you still see one right across the room.

• 10:00Laci Mosley?

  And Ratatouille's still pulling up.

• 10:02Speaker 03

  Oh, there's a hole, I mean, and then you see one and you're like, surely you're the only one. They don't work in ones.

• 10:08Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 10:08Speaker 03

  They, they always roll in a game.

• 10:10Laci Mosley?

  That's like when you see a roach. They're, they're the kookaracha, the family is already here.

• 10:14Speaker 03

  Where, where are the granddaughters and, yeah.

• 10:17Laci Mosley?

  Nieces, nephews, the babies, they already here. Yeah, that's terrifying. Also, like, I feel like I would not be able to sleep if there was a rat in my house. Because I'm like, is the rat gonna crawl over my face? Is the rat gonna get in bed with me?

• 10:27Speaker 03

  Oh, and you'll hear him like squeaking and that. This was years ago, like before we had the kids.

• 10:31Laci Mosley?

  Is the rat gonna drink my Moscato in bed with his rat girlfriend?

• 10:33Speaker 03

  No, live.

• 10:35Speaker 03

  Just two rats smoking a cigarette with that Moscato. I said, I have lost control of my life. And of course, I called my, I remember calling my dad, being like, oh dad, I've like moved into this, you know, your parents are never gonna help. I was like, yeah, I have moved into this like horrible situation. He's like, wha- wha- wha- what you doing moving anyway? You ain't got no business moving.

• 10:53Laci Mosley?

  Why they always immediately blaming us? Can we get to a solution? It's always the first question, well, why you did this to get yourself in this situation? How is that helping me get out of this situation?

• 11:01Speaker 03

  I said, well, people move. I- is this a foreign concept? We've all moved at least once. So at that point, I was sleeping at Ben's house. Like, these were the early days of us dating. I was sleeping in his house, like, my hus- my husband is Ben. You know, like, five nights out of a seven day week, because I didn't want to sleep in the, in the house of horrors.

• 11:18Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 11:18Speaker 03

  But I was scammed.

• 11:19Laci Mosley?

  You were. And so, how did you get out of this scam? Was it just like, at the four months mark, you were like, I have somewhere else to live? Or you were like, I'm gonna marry Ben real quick?

• 11:27Speaker 03

  Right.

• 11:28Laci Mosley?

  Or, you know?

• 11:28Speaker 03

  This is when, y'all marriage is critical, to get out of hardship.

• 11:34Speaker 03

  I, I, at the time, I, I, you know what I started doing for real? I started going to yoga classes in my neighborhood. And I just started feeling like physically stronger and finding my own voice. And so, one time I came back and I told that landlord, I was like, I'm leaving at the end of the month, and if you try to, like, stop me, like, I'm contacting my attorney. Because I've already been sending my attorney information about this situation. So you will hear from my attorney. Let's see, I ain't got no attorney.

• 11:59Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 11:59Speaker 03

  I've never had attorney money. You know what I'm saying? But attorneys sound a little more fancy than lawyers.

• 12:03Laci Mosley?

  It does.

• 12:04Speaker 03

  You see what I'm saying?

• 12:04Laci Mosley?

  And, and, it's even better if you don't ask for no information from them. Because then they're like, oh, your attorney's powerful enough just to find it all their own? Oh yeah, I've done that in the hospital. I had a nurse who refused to give me my medication. And I was like, oh, can I have your name? And I was like, actually, never mind, I know exactly what your shift is, and I can just send that to my attorney. And so, since you're denying me healthcare, go ahead and put that in writing. If you refuse to, my doctor already has so. But, uh, yeah, we don't need to speak anymore. But I literally like flexed on her, was like, yeah, your name, actually, don't need it, I can find it. And then all of a sudden, she could give my medication. All of a sudden, she could do it with my doctor's ass.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  You know, let me go find them two pills.

• 12:38Laci Mosley?

  We should all have a fake attorney. And you have to act like your fake attorney's super powerful. Like, so powerful that you don't even ask for details. They're like, no, they'll find you.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Baby, I love hitting them with like, well, you know what, I'm gonna review that with the board. I ain't got no board.

• 12:52Speaker 03

  But let me say, you hit somebody with like, well, I'm gonna talk to the board and we're gonna make a decision on that. There's no board. And the team ain't even that large either, but.

• 13:00Laci Mosley?

  No, I mean, that's how like now, like I, I talked to my accountant this week and that was our new strategy is like, people are asking me for money or something, just like, let me review it with my business team.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 13:10Laci Mosley?

  They said no.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  Unfortunately, they voted, the council has voted, the congregation has voted, and.

• 13:18Laci Mosley?

  My hands are tied. Sky!

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• 16:31Laci Mosley?

  And I love that. I think that's great advice. And speaking of advice, we are doing a special episode for you guys this week. We are doing listener letters. I know that we haven't done listener letters in a while. I didn't forget about y'all writing in. And now we have the amazing Amber Wall in here to give her opinions all throughout. As well, as always, if you want to snitch on your friends, family, yourself, your business, anybody, [email protected]. We'd love to hear from you. So first up, we're gonna just keep the theme going with landlord scammers. So we got some landlord scammers here. I think they're probably a little worse than yours and the nephew and the Moscato girlfriend.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  This is worse than mice? And lovers in your bed? Oh, I'm set.

• 17:14Laci Mosley?

  I mean, well, these landlord scammers are owing like around $144 million. So it says, "Hi, Lacey."

• 17:21Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, I don't think I heard. You said million with an M?

• 17:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, with an M.

• 17:24Speaker 03

  USD.

• 17:25Laci Mosley?

  Like a million. Like, think Christina Milian, but just the million.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  No dip it low. Okay, I'm listening.

• 17:32Laci Mosley?

  They brought the money up very slow. Apparently not at all.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  I love when you pick up what I'm putting down.

• 17:40Laci Mosley?

  So it says, hi Lacey and your amazing team. I think I have a really good one for you. I have, so let's just give this person a fake name, whatever fake name you want to give them, Amber. We'll protect their anonymity.

• 17:50Speaker 03

  Let's go with Minnie, as in Minnie Mouse.

• 17:52Laci Mosley?

  Minnie, yeah, we're gonna keep strong themes today. So Minnie says, I have to begin by saying how much I love your podcast. Oh, thank you, Minnie, and I've been wanting to submit the story for a while, but I was hesitant because I know the scammer personally. Oh, Minnie, we snitched on friends and family. I know, that's right, Minnie. So Minnie says, I went to middle school and high school with a woman involved. We were actually very good friends until our mid twenties. I could just never trust her. She was always very superficial and shallow, and she's absolutely stunningly beautiful. But I am very glad we naturally drifted apart. So I don't know why you couldn't trust her, Minnie, but it's given like she was a baddie, but she was also like out here running baddie schemes.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  Right, right, right.

• 18:33Laci Mosley?

  I'm too pretty to get in trouble.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  She says stunningly beautiful?

• 18:37Laci Mosley?

  Stunningly beautiful.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, okay. Says middle school? Ain't nobody beautiful in middle school.

• 18:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they usually fall off around high school or like, you know, then they get pregnant and they have like a Kaylee with extra like H's in it or something.

• 18:50Speaker 03

  Braided and halen, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 18:52Laci Mosley?

  And then they're reliving their life through their daughter on the cheer squad. Like, but she was, she was beautiful all this time. She was a bad bitch you could never kill. Also, like, Minnie, I'm gonna clock out to here just for one second because she was like, yeah, we drifted apart, but it sounded like you benefited from her stunningly beautifulness.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  You got in the club.

• 19:09Laci Mosley?

  You ain't paid for a drink in years.

• 19:11Speaker 03

  Right, right, right. She taught you how to scam people out of them drinks.

• 19:14Laci Mosley?

  Flewed out.

• 19:14Speaker 03

  And one day you looked up being like, no, wait, I think I'm, I've been buying the drinks, yeah.

• 19:20Laci Mosley?

  So Minnie says, not too many years ago, I used to be jealous of my friends who were still close with this woman. Her name is Aruba. I'm saying her true name as later I post a link to a news article that tells the tea, verified court details, et cetera, and full names involved. So not you waited to tell this was verified by the feds. Now, also, she a baddie named Aruba?

• 19:43Speaker 03

  That's her real name? Can we get a picture of the stunningly beautiful mistress herself?

• 19:49Laci Mosley?

  Beautiful Aruba.

• 19:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's a baddie name.

• 19:52Laci Mosley?

  That's not even like a cheap, like, destination, you know? She was named after someplace, Aruba, expensive.

• 19:59Speaker 03

  Lot of charcoal there.

• 20:02Laci Mosley?

  Aruba used to fly my friends. I knew there was gonna be some flewed out situations in here.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  All expenses paid.

• 20:07Laci Mosley?

  Oh, so this is Aruba. She cute. She cute. And you know what? She looks like she got that skin that's real poreless. So like when you in person, like the skin is just so smooth. She got good eyebrows. Yeah. I mean, your skin that smooth, you gotta do crime. Honestly, right now, I'm on Aruba's side, Minnie. We'll see.

• 20:25Speaker 03

  I'm excited to hear about all these gentlemen next to Aruba as well.

• 20:30Laci Mosley?

  Listen, Aruba was never lonely, okay? She was a baddie. So, Aruba used to fly my friends on private jets to Miami, Las Vegas, and California. Paid for private parties at nightclubs with MMA fighters. Drake, of course Drake is involved. And even disgustingly partied with Trump after a UFC fight. So, yeah, her baddiness, it didn't have no political affiliation. She said, "You are money, I'mma be there."

• 20:58Speaker 03

  Right, right.

• 20:58Laci Mosley?

  With my eyebrows.

• 20:59Speaker 03

  Okay, Minnie, I'm looking. We squinting at you.

• 21:02Laci Mosley?

  So, like, well, this is Minnie saying she was jealous because Aruba was flying all them out to do this. She didn't say she...

• 21:08Speaker 03

  Oh, she wasn't getting flewed out. Okay, okay.

• 21:11Laci Mosley?

  I think she was in the beginning, but then they naturally drifted apart and then she wasn't getting flewed out no more. But she obviously still got all the internets, so she's seeing that the flying out is still happening. She just not on board.

• 21:20Speaker 03

  And it sounds to me like if she got the call to go see the fights and stuff, she would have been on the flight.

• 21:25Laci Mosley?

  Now, this don't even look like Aruba. Is this still an Aruba dress? This is her like a little bit younger. So, this is Aruba younger and now she's blonde. She also got one of those chameleon faces. Like, I don't think I'll be able to point Aruba out in a lineup, so she should definitely be doing crime. Because who is this Latina baddie?

• 21:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, she been changing her face.

• 21:41Laci Mosley?

  She went from Kim K to Shakira. I don't even know her. So... Minnie says she bought one of my friend's one-year-old daughter a brand-new Balenciaga purse, delivered with white glove service to the freaking baby's B-day party. And my friend, who is the child's mother, felt embarrassed because Aruba didn't even show up to the party. It felt like she was rude and just showing off. So, I mean, she couldn't make it to the function, but she's still about the baby a bag.

• 22:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's some hater energy, Minnie. I ain't gonna hold you. She said, "I can't make it, but I will send the white glove service to give a one-year-old a Balenciaga bag."

• 22:20Laci Mosley?

  Which is an auntie gift.

• 22:21Speaker 03

  It is.

• 22:22Laci Mosley?

  You have children. You have to get practical things for your children. Like, the diapers or the, or like, food. Apparently, it was a big thing for the kids.

• 22:31Speaker 03

  Or just a toy that won't drive me up the wall.

• 22:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, a toy that ain't, like, I know that now. I don't get loud toys. I don't get the little bang, bang, bang, piano, piano, guitar.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  Your child-free friend buying a drum set. You're like, "Do you hate me?" "Are you my biggest ally?"

• 22:44Laci Mosley?

  No, but I am like the child-free friend who's gonna go out and get the baby Gucci. Because it's like, the baby's gonna grow out of the Gucci, but like, I'm auntie who don't got no kids. So, I'm gonna make foolish purchases.

• 22:56Speaker 03

  I'm all like spoil the babies, like, for sure. Just don't, if it's a fire truck that need 811 batteries, I'm like, uh. And you know they wanna open it right that second, too. You're like, "No, I have to set this up."

• 23:07Laci Mosley?

  No, I haven't seen a D battery in years. I would never do that to you, queen.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  AAA? I ain't never seen a AAA battery.

• 23:15Laci Mosley?

  AAA? Oh, hell. Okay, that'd be the hardest one, because when you run out of a AAA, you run out of a AAA battery. You can probably find a double A somewhere in a remote that you don't use. But a AAA, you gotta go to the store.

• 23:27Speaker 03

  Some little merry-go-round that need a AAA. You're like, uh.

• 23:30Laci Mosley?

  So, "Please keep my name anonymous," says Minnie. Minnie, we fold paragraphs in, Minnie. You should've said that earlier, but we did keep you anonymous.

• 23:38Speaker 03

  We got you, Minnie.

• 23:39Laci Mosley?

  We got you, Minnie. You like, see, you must listen to the show, so you know we got you covered. But you're a little late on that one. So it says, "Please keep my name anonymous. I don't want any drama with these people. But what I'm telling you is also in the local newspapers. So it's all come out. Aruba has always cared about her hair, her makeup, and how people view her. In high school, Aruba was fired from every job I knew her to have.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  I mean, it's high school.

• 24:02Laci Mosley?

  And also, like, she was a baddie. Like, her job was to be a baddie hire. You got personality hires, you got aesthetic hires. She not supposed to actually do employment.

• 24:10Speaker 03

  She got fired from the pizza spot.

• 24:12Laci Mosley?

  Like, she's supposed to show up and look cute. The business goes up 10 points when she's there. Because we're like, this place must be good. How they trap this baddie over here?

• 24:21Speaker 03

  What's her high school resume looking like? Now, I'm not on Aruba's side, but do not judge me based on my high school job performance.

• 24:28Laci Mosley?

  No, listen, I have been fired from two positions. The one was in college, and that was because I took the bus to go to work, and I kept coming in like seven minutes late. So they got me.

• 24:40Speaker 03

  They got you. Now, what was that other one?

• 24:42Laci Mosley?

  And that was at the Fairmont Hotel. The other one actually started my acting career. I was working at a restaurant on Rodeo. And even though it was in a nice area, it was owned privately. And so, these people did not know how to run a business. Like, the cooks would be leaving to go do meth. Next thing I know, I gotta cook a creme brulee because this party is mad because there's a birthday on a birthday. So I'm flambeing, and they seating me tables. And then the rich people get mad at me and write a letter. They fired me. But nobody ever documented there that I was seven minutes late. So I got to file for unemployment.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  Oh, I love that. So the cook was in the alley?

• 25:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  Cooking meth?

• 25:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like a personal order, a short order of meth for himself.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, just a small batch.

• 25:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 25:24Speaker 03

  And then you had to cook the creme brulee?

• 25:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 25:26Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 25:27Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, no one should let me around fire. So when I got removed from that position, they had to run me unemployment because they didn't have anything on record. So I got $12,000 and started my little acting career.

• 25:41Speaker 03

  You be talking down on people on unemployment, then you get a check, you like, I see why people stay on this.

• 25:45Laci Mosley?

  But unemployment is also a scam because how you taxing me from the unemployment that came from my taxes? And then unemployment likes to run this scam. This is just a tip for all of y'all out there who've ever had to be on unemployment, especially during these times. I know it's tough with the job market. If you're on unemployment and you get off unemployment, a hustle that unemployment likes to do is be like, oh, we overpaid you on unemployment, so you now need to run us money back. If you go to court physically present and fight it, typically you'll get away. Like, they'll, they'll be like, alright, well, we tried, you know, like.

• 26:17Speaker 03

  But they do try it.

• 26:18Laci Mosley?

  They do try it.

• 26:19Speaker 03

  Well, see, I collected unemployment during the pandemic when everybody, you know, I, I was laid off, when everybody was laid off then, so maybe they, they didn't have time to process all those court cases and stuff.

• 26:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 26:31Speaker 03

  But baby, them COVID unemployment checks were like triple what you made at your job, so you're like, oh, so we do, we do this now, yes.

• 26:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so we do have money.

• 26:39Speaker 03

  We do.

• 26:39Laci Mosley?

  Our, our country's constantly telling us we don't have McDonald's money. They're always like, we broke, we broke, and then I turn around and they giving billions away to Argentina. Where do we get them billions at?

• 26:48Speaker 03

  Where do we get those coins?

• 26:49Laci Mosley?

  I thought we were broke. So, back to our baddie and, and her firings.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, Minnie.

• 26:55Laci Mosley?

  So, Aruba's the baddie. So, Minnie is saying that Aruba got fired from Aldo Shoes because she was giving everyone her family discount. I'm not mad at that.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:07Laci Mosley?

  I'm not mad at that. She was a baddie who was also making sure that before y'all got on the PJ with her, that y'all had on at least a good dupe of a, of a Jimmy Choo from Aldo.

• 27:17Speaker 03

  Now, Minnie.

• 27:17Laci Mosley?

  Cause you know Aldo is like a Steve Madden, it's like, whatever the popular shoe is, they making it for a more affordable cost for the girlies.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  Now, Minnie, like, to, to recap, she's stunningly gorgeous, she sends great presents to the kids' birthday parties.

• 27:33Laci Mosley?

  Baby getting Balenciaga.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  And she's giving family and friends discounts where she works. So, so Aruba's feeling like a giver.

• 27:40Laci Mosley?

  She flying people out on the PJ.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  She's flying people out. She's like, and then she's giving her friends discounts, okay?

• 27:48Laci Mosley?

  After that, she worked at a tanning salon, and she was fired there because she stole security camera equipment and tried to sell it on eBay.

• 27:56Speaker 03

  Okay, now you got me. You got me there. Now that, now that is indeed a crime.

• 28:00Laci Mosley?

  We've jumped the shark.

• 28:02Speaker 03

  But I definitely have given so many discounts.

• 28:05Laci Mosley?

  A freezing family, we was with you, we was on your side.

• 28:07Speaker 03

  Not with you, when you right.

• 28:08Laci Mosley?

  Now, why did you think that you were gonna leave up out of this establishment with they cameras?

• 28:14Speaker 03

  To walk in and someone be like-

• 28:15Laci Mosley?

  Somebody saw you unscrewing that out of the wall.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  It is kinda funny to me, like, that she stole from the, the, the one spot where there probably wasn't a security camera, which is where they watch all the security footage. She was like, "Well, they don't have a camera of me stealing in here." Like, that's kind of ironic and funny.

• 28:33Laci Mosley?

  Cause I'm thinking, like, don't you get in the nude for the tanning bed?

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Right.

• 28:36Laci Mosley?

  I think legally, you can't have cameras in certain places because of the nude.

• 28:40Speaker 03

  So maybe she was actually trying to stop creepers looking at that footage.

• 28:44Laci Mosley?

  She might have been a hero. What if they had some secret cameras up in the nude? And she was like, "One, this is inappropriate and wrong."

• 28:49Speaker 03

  This is inappropriate.

• 28:50Laci Mosley?

  And two, I'm gonna sell it on eBay.

• 28:52Speaker 03

  Wow, okay.

• 28:52Laci Mosley?

  I'm back on her side.

• 28:53Speaker 03

  I, I, yeah, she kinda convinced me there.

• 28:56Laci Mosley?

  Minnie, I know you listen to the show, so Minnie, I'm, I'm gonna get, you, you're still my favorite. You still my fave. Leave us a five star review. You still my fave. But right now, I'm just, I'm, Aruba don't seem so bad.

• 29:05Speaker 03

  So bad, not so bad.

• 29:07Laci Mosley?

  So, when she tried to sell it on eBay, the cops were the first and only bidders on eBay.

• 29:13Speaker 03

  Excellent.

• 29:13Laci Mosley?

  For the stolen security equipment. And I just wanna say, guys, with the internet, we've made it all too easy for cops. It's not like they were really, the crime solve rate is already like, what, like forty percent? It's not like they were actually working really hard. Now y'all just getting on the internet and being like, "Look at these crimes I did. Like and subscribe for more crimes that I did." Yeah, you, you made this so easy for the cops.

• 29:36Speaker 03

  Send that galaxy for that crime I just committed, y'all. You're like, "Wait, what?"

• 29:39Laci Mosley?

  I need to go find me for my bail, y'all. Like, I've, I've seen people on TikTok reading out the charges that they have against them, but like, also saying that they did the shit. And I'm like, "You haven't gone to court yet."

• 29:51Speaker 03

  Right.

• 29:51Laci Mosley?

  You know they could use this against you.

• 29:53Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 29:54Laci Mosley?

  Have you not seen all these rappers where they be like, "Uh, hey, young thug, you did these crimes, you were part of this gang slime?"

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Rico and racketeering and-

• 30:02Laci Mosley?

  He was like, "No, no, not at all."

• 30:03Speaker 03

  These are just lyrics.

• 30:04Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, "Play the track." And he's like, "I'm in the slime game, doing all the crime game. It was me at the robbery, I definitely shot niggas three yesterday." Like, like-

• 30:13Speaker 03

  And it went all the way to the top, too.

• 30:15Laci Mosley?

  You been caught at 4K. You shot it at the crime scene.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  You did.

• 30:18Laci Mosley?

  We ain't even cleaning up the blood, cuz we real thugs. Like, what are you doing?

• 30:22Speaker 03

  And you already put like the orange prison getup on. I'm like, now you sealed your fate now.

• 30:27Laci Mosley?

  Like, that was like everybody at January 6th. Why was y'all taking selfies, bro?

• 30:31Speaker 03

  Baby, selfies. They had costumes, wardrobe, glam.

• 30:35Laci Mosley?

  They were like, can y'all tag her?

• 30:38Speaker 03

  And happy to do it. And then trying to go back to your regular jobs, being like...

• 30:41Laci Mosley?

  That was a girl who tagged her own mama.

• 30:42Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 30:43Laci Mosley?

  Got her mama locked up. So, Minnie says, Minnie, you are very thorough. I will say this.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  Honey, receipts.

• 30:49Laci Mosley?

  If you're gonna hate, this is how you hate.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  Right, right. A professional hater, if you will.

• 30:54Laci Mosley?

  All of these links, I got photos of this woman. I really pulled into the lore.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  So you turned her into the cops at the Tana's line. Got it.

• 31:01Laci Mosley?

  But Minnie, I'm impressed. I'm not familiar with your game, but I'm impressed with your game. I'm into it. So, Minnie says, "I will now post a link to news articles all about their most recent and harmful scam. They massively screwed innocent people out of homes to live in and investments. It is still in court as I type this, and I can't find any updates on their newest trial, but I'm sure your team can do better research than I can." So, she, uh, Minnie has pulled up three links for us.

• 31:33Speaker 03

  Okay, so, now scamming the innocent, I'm not, I'm not going for it.

• 31:37Laci Mosley?

  And housing is a necessity.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  Housing, yes.

• 31:39Laci Mosley?

  And we talked about housing earlier with you. Like, housing is such a necessity. You had to have the stranger menage of wine and ratatouille. Like, you had three roommates.

• 31:52Speaker 03

  Literally.

• 31:53Laci Mosley?

  You were like, well, it's free rent. So, long story short, Aruba was a part of a group of landlords, landlords who owed investors $144 million and filed for bankruptcy protection. We are all from Ontario, and the Ontario Superior Court ordered Aruba and her husband, ex-actor Robbie Clark, from the Zack Files.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  Not the Zack files, you might see that.

• 32:15Laci Mosley?

  I ain't know about them files.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  He said, look, the show, the show did not get another season. I gotta find something to do.

• 32:20Laci Mosley?

  And two other landlords, they were, um, they all had to relinquish control of their real estate empire following allegations of misusing investor funds. The issue is that these investments were meant for homes in struggling neighborhoods. Not you going to the struggling neighborhoods. So now you're tricking the most vulnerable?

• 32:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:39Laci Mosley?

  Like Amber, this is when you said you had two weeks to move.

• 32:42Speaker 03

  Two weeks.

• 32:43Laci Mosley?

  And the landlord giving you fake doorknobs.

• 32:45Speaker 03

  That's exactly what they do. They're like, oh, you're desperate. Let me, let me really twist the knife there. You're like, dang, I was already down.

• 32:51Laci Mosley?

  And this is a scam that we don't approve of. Like, like,

• 32:54Speaker 03

  No.

• 32:54Laci Mosley?

  Scam up. Why are you scamming people who need housing, who are obviously desperate for a human necessity? Uh, man, Minnie, I'm back on your side. Aruba, you ain't right for this.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, you should have led with this, Minnie.

• 33:07Laci Mosley?

  Minnie led with, Minnie led with her petty shit.

• 33:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:10Laci Mosley?

  Minnie was like, this bitch.

• 33:11Speaker 03

  Can you believe she got a Balenciaga bag? You're like, I can't.

• 33:14Laci Mosley?

  And had a white glove delivered. It interrupted the whole party and she didn't even come. Oh, you too good to come to the party, but you want to tell us you too rich, so you, you giving our baby a Balenci? Baby can't even walk, got a Balenci.

• 33:26Speaker 03

  And it's, it, it, it's always like this too. It's like y'all are, y'all are scamming and then really flexing in a way that you could have, you could have actually just invested, been quiet about it. The white glove service was a tell of like, something, something up with y'all. Like, it's something going on.

• 33:42Laci Mosley?

  Do like the, the scamming rappers do. A lot of them start out in crime and gangs, selling crack rock. And then as soon as they got enough money to invest in their real career, they get out of the game.

• 33:51Speaker 03

  Get out the game.

• 33:52Laci Mosley?

  And they pay one of their besties to go do a bid for them.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  Get like, limit some of that exposure. Upward mobility, because the minute you try to flex on these hoes, they gonna be like, what, what you doing over there?

• 34:03Laci Mosley?

  I want to look at her man again for one second.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, which of, which of the three?

• 34:06Laci Mosley?

  Go through this. So, this is her man.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  Baby, she got the scammer pose in that one pic.

• 34:12Laci Mosley?

  From the Zack Files. Never heard of those files, but you know, Canada has their own media.

• 34:17Speaker 03

  Oh, yes.

• 34:18Laci Mosley?

  The only thing that ever slipped out of Canada for us was The Grassy, but now, the other thing that slipped out is Heady Rivalry.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  Oh, you didn't have to tell me?

• 34:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 34:25Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 34:26Laci Mosley?

  As soon as I found out that that was Canada, I was like, yes ma'am. So apparently, her husband's older brother, it's not in there, but her husband's older brother, when they were both younger and both actors, he was in The Grassy during the time of Drake. This guy's brother. So, remember, we said that our baddie Aruba had partied with Drake.

• 34:42Speaker 03

  There was one show out of Ontario.

• 34:44Laci Mosley?

  With wheelchair Jimmy.

• 34:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, Jimmy. Oh, baby, The Grassy had me in a chokehold, spinner.

• 34:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes.

• 34:50Speaker 03

  I loved The Grassy.

• 34:52Laci Mosley?

  I had my thongs hiked up over my jeans like I was Manny.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  Whatever it takes.

• 34:57Laci Mosley?

  Whatever it takes. I was Manny.

• 35:00Speaker 03

  You couldn't tell me I wasn't Manny up in the high school? That was the show. Manny was very cun.

• 35:05Laci Mosley?

  So, Minnie says that I wish I had screenshots of what their Instagram pages used to look like before all of this came to light. It was full of photos with celebrities, athletes, private yachts, jets, parties, Balenciaga. Apparently, they're very brand loyal. Everything in all cast.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  Oh, thank God, they're brand loyal. Yes.

• 35:24Laci Mosley?

  They have all since scrubbed their social media of mostly everything. And Minnie says, "Thank you so much, Lacey and your team. Love you. Please don't say my name if you use this story. Love, Minnie." Also, Minnie, why you put your real name at the bottom again?

• 35:38Speaker 03

  At the bottom. Wait, are they locked up?

• 35:40Laci Mosley?

  I could have never known your name, babes. This is currently in litigation.

• 35:43Speaker 03

  Oh, it's in litigation. So they probably gonna get locked up.

• 35:44Laci Mosley?

  They're cleaning up their Instagrams. And like, when we do the listener letters, like, yes, I want to be informed on scams. I also want to be able to help people and give them advice on scams. I mean, in this situation, Minnie, I really appreciate the research you did.

• 35:59Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:59Laci Mosley?

  I love that you're trying to get a bad bitch off the streets.

• 36:02Speaker 03

  Right. One less.

• 36:03Laci Mosley?

  Actually, I don't.

• 36:04Speaker 03

  Clean up the streets. I want to know what team.

• 36:07Laci Mosley?

  They just need to be outside.

• 36:08Speaker 03

  I want to know what team they hired to defend them. Cause that sometimes is very telling.

• 36:13Laci Mosley?

  If you down 144 million, you got at least.

• 36:15Speaker 03

  You gotta get.

• 36:16Laci Mosley?

  You need, you need a real lawyer, not the fake ones that we bring up in our situations.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  You need, well, I love hearing, like, when you see a big trial publicized. I, I love hearing like, you know, the last, the last person this person rep was OJ. You were like, oh, oh, you did the crime, baby. Okay.

• 36:33Laci Mosley?

  Right. If you need that good of a legal team.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're like, this is Johnny Cochran's son. You're like, oh.

• 36:39Laci Mosley?

  They just rep Johnny Depp and you're like, ooh.

• 36:42Speaker 03

  Oh, this is a banger, banger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 36:45Laci Mosley?

  So you did the crime. You're not trying to do the time, but with the crime, you did.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  So we, we gotta find out what, well, you know, this is, this is Ontario tea. So it might be a little different from these American lawyers.

• 36:57Laci Mosley?

  Aren't they still wearing wigs and little, and little, little cutie outfits?

• 37:00Speaker 03

  Not, not, now, Canadian listeners, I didn't say that. I didn't say it. Cause you know, I might, I might need a tour date there one day. So y'all ain't gonna have no receipts.

• 37:09Laci Mosley?

  Same.

• 37:10Speaker 03

  Y'all ain't gonna have no receipts to me.

• 37:11Laci Mosley?

  I love, I love.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  I love maple syrup. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I want to know who got hired to do it because the, the lawyer and the legal team will tell me how, how guilty y'all are.

• 37:24Laci Mosley?

  We will see. Robbery.

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• 40:30Laci Mosley?

  So let's move on into one that we will obviously have near and dear to our hearts. This scam is entitled from the listener NYC Improv Scam. I need a fake name for this person. They're a little bit more brief with what they gonna talk to us about.

• 40:46Speaker 03

  Not, not the improv scene.

• 40:48Laci Mosley?

  I know, I'm like, I'm a little too involved. There's, there's articles online. You might catch me up in this.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  Well, I'm, I'm also like, you know, I think we all know what we're getting into when we invest in the arts.

• 40:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  You know, it, it's, it's.

• 40:59Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes it's a low, it's a little Ponzi-esque, but it can work out.

• 41:03Speaker 03

  It's Ponzi-esque. It's, it's, it's whole business is being made off of, oh, these people want to be stars. Yes, yes. From, from the people to take the headshots to the teachers. So I'm very excited about this.

• 41:15Laci Mosley?

  And I've talked about the headshot people all the time. You got a fake name for me?

• 41:18Speaker 03

  Hmm. Okay, we gonna stay on the mouse theme. So let's go with, uh, Chuck E. Cheese.

• 41:23Laci Mosley?

  Chuck E. Cheese. Well, you know, there was one arrested for credit card fraud in a Chuck E. Cheese uniform. He tried to run away. Very funny.

• 41:31Laci Mosley?

  So, and also like, how you gonna scar the kids like that? Is that Chuck E. getting locked up? They was like, Charles E. Cheese in the cops?

• 41:37Speaker 03

  Charles Entertainment Cheese is in the parking lot.

• 41:39Laci Mosley?

  Charles Entertainment Cheese.

• 41:40Speaker 03

  Getting locked up.

• 41:41Laci Mosley?

  And they putting his head down to put him in the, in the damn police car.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  But Chuck E. a rat. So that's, that, now, there's a, there's like a mouse, like busy.

• 41:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Chuck E. is a rat.

• 41:51Speaker 03

  Now, if you a rat, one, one lockup ain't, ain't too bad.

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  Ain't too bad. Chuck E. was back in the joint.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  It's a rat race. Yeah. I'mma be out of here quick.

• 42:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Chuck E. made bail, so it's good. So Chuck E. says, Dear Lacey, I have a friend who was trying to get work as an actress back in the late 90s in New York City. She told me about a scam she came up with that has, she has since laid to rest. So I can freely tell the story without fucking up her bag. Okay. It's giving me like, are you, are you like a messy gay?

• 42:21Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 42:22Laci Mosley?

  It's giving like you have a fainting couch in your apartment in New York. Okay, you have a chaise lounge.

• 42:27Speaker 03

  A chaise lounge.

• 42:28Laci Mosley?

  Cause if you know a 90s actress who tells you lore.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:32Laci Mosley?

  You got a full head of hair in a chaise lounge. So Chucky says she was a part of an improv troupe, which is also a scam. Look, scam worked for me, so I can't, you know, sometimes it's a scam, sometimes it's not. Just depends on who you ask. Where you have to get 10 of your friends to buy tickets or else you don't get to perform that night.

• 42:51Speaker 03

  Oh, like the bringers.

• 42:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 42:53Speaker 03

  Oh, child.

• 42:54Laci Mosley?

  And if you don't know what a bringer show is, go to New York City and start looking around too much. A bringer will appear.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 43:00Laci Mosley?

  That's all you have to do. It's like saying Bloody Mary in the bathroom three times. Like, if you just look. If you go to Times Square and you look at too many buildings at eye level, a bringer will pop up and be like, "You trying to go to a comedy show tonight?"

• 43:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, come on, just right down here. Yep, yep.

• 43:16Laci Mosley?

  It just happens. So, her career was going nowhere.

• 43:21Speaker 03

  Damn.

• 43:21Laci Mosley?

  Says Chucky. That's why I said it was shady. Chucky shady.

• 43:24Speaker 03

  Nah, east, not west. She was going nowhere and getting there fast. Zed, that's your friend?

• 43:32Laci Mosley?

  These first two that we've had are giving friend. Like, it gives y'all not friends with these people.

• 43:37Speaker 03

  I imagine my friend saying, "And her career was going nowhere."

• 43:41Laci Mosley?

  Right. Why can't it be like she was building, she was struggling? She was aspiring. No, you said-

• 43:48Speaker 03

  She just, maybe, that career, when it comes to her career-

• 43:52Laci Mosley?

  Her shit was at rock bottom, anyway.

• 43:54Speaker 03

  It's up there, Steve. What is nowhere? That's what happens when you deal with rats.

• 43:57Laci Mosley?

  Yes, that's what happens when you deal with rats. So, when she would like, she would pay to audition for like, a talent manager, which obviously is yet another scam that I've seen.

• 44:08Speaker 03

  Oh, I haven't, okay, more on that later. Auditioning for a talent manager and paying to do so?

• 44:14Laci Mosley?

  Yes. I've typically seen it with like, auditioning for a commercial or any type of casting director where you pay like 40 bucks and they kind of like tell you some advice that'll probably fuck your career up for years. Yeah, with no job prospects for you. Yeah, but a manager is different. I haven't seen the paid manager audition. So, this manager said that they would have to see her on stage. She thought she might have finally had a chance to break into the business. She invited the manager to her improv show even though she wasn't sure where she was gonna find 10 people. Because remember she gotta bring 10 people. And she hadn't already sold the tickets. So she's like, this is my big break. The manager's gonna come watch me. I do need to go trick 10 people in Times Square. But I got a big opportunity.

• 44:58Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna say that depending on how you look at this, this could be a scam or not. I have had agents be like, hey, we love your work. We also want to come see you at a show.

• 45:07Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 45:07Laci Mosley?

  And then after that, I'm in some big shiny building and they're signing me.

• 45:10Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, this is standard, but I don't know. Coming to an improv show, that's a little risky.

• 45:17Laci Mosley?

  I mean, they've definitely, that's where, that's where I got signed to say, hey.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  That's, like, it's an improv troupe that you're like, we rock together. Nobody here is gonna try to take the stage, like.

• 45:27Laci Mosley?

  Act crazy, yeah.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  Well, maybe I just been in the bottom of the barrel ass improv groups. But I would've, I would've invited somebody and then somebody would've got up there and tried to be in every scene. And I would've been like, I gotta invite something, my manager something else.

• 45:41Laci Mosley?

  Tell anybody that you didn't invite somebody.

• 45:43Speaker 03

  No, no, no, but. You know that energy in the improv group. You know that white dude to be tagging you out of scenes and you're like, now this was the hair salon. This was the hair salon. What you, what are you, why are you tagging me out of this scene? What you gonna say? We are under hair dryers at the hair salon.

• 45:58Laci Mosley?

  And I'm under the hair dry at the hair salon and I'm like, oh, my baby is kicking. I hope I can, you're not pregnant.

• 46:04Speaker 03

  No, no, we're building here.

• 46:06Laci Mosley?

  We're building. They're like, you're not a pregnant Asian lady, get out of scene. What, you just labeled me three things.

• 46:13Speaker 03

  Wow. Well, your improv team understood the assignment when your managers came. Because I wouldn't, I couldn't trust it.

• 46:20Laci Mosley?

  So I didn't tell nobody they was coming. I knew the assignment.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  Smart, smart. Because they would've been like, oh, I'm trying to get signed too.

• 46:26Laci Mosley?

  Because I didn't want to do too much. I wanted to come in and be funny. Just enough that y'all could see I'm good at my job and then I'm be sitting back here supporting everybody else.

• 46:32Speaker 03

  Can't show them too much, just a little titty. Can't show them too much.

• 46:35Laci Mosley?

  Just a little titty, just like the top hair.

• 46:38Speaker 03

  Top hair, nothing too crazy. Because if I show you that whole nipple, you ain't gonna know how to act.

• 46:43Laci Mosley?

  You're not gonna know how to act. So. Our shady Shay Sloun's friend here, Chucky, says that

• 46:50Speaker 03

  Career going nowhere.

• 46:51Laci Mosley?

  Her 90, or their 90s homegirl finally got a big break, but she gotta get 10 people to the theater so she can get the manager there.

• 46:58Speaker 03

  Who she paid to come.

• 46:59Laci Mosley?

  Who she paid to come. So the idea came to her while she was looking at online dating websites. She stumbled across one called Yahoo personals. Woo, Yahoo.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Okay, throw it back.

• 47:12Laci Mosley?

  Which later became Match.com. Instead of looking for love, she used the site to try to pack the improv theater with as many people as possible. She sent out 100 messages to men her age range, asking them if they were interested in going on a date. 50 men replied, yes. So she asked if they could come to her improv show and go for a drink afterwards. 40 of them said, yes. The night of the show.

• 47:39Speaker 03

  40 drinks?

• 47:40Laci Mosley?

  She was like, we're gonna have 40 drinks. And that's, these are the types of shots where you gotta be like, shot, woo, and then just throw it over your shoulders.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 47:48Laci Mosley?

  Because ma'am, how are you gonna do this? The night of the show, all of these thirsty internet men showed up. And do you know how thirsty for ladies' sex you have to be? To go to an improv show.

• 48:03Speaker 03

  Woo.

• 48:05Laci Mosley?

  Forty.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  Forty.

• 48:07Laci Mosley?

  They was ready to go to the improv show of make them ups. Hey, can you give us a suggestion? And we all know most of improv.

• 48:14Speaker 03

  Pistol sharpener.

• 48:14Laci Mosley?

  Every now and then, you're gonna see something good, but for the most part, you're gonna see a struggle.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  Oh, I, I, one time, Lacey, I got on stage, I, I can't, I, I, I do stand up now because I don't been in many improv scene. One time I got up there, and you know, also, sometimes you're the only black girl in, in, I, I don't know if you know this, but you might be the only black woman up onstage. And one time, and so I feel like sometimes they suggest stuff because they think you don't know what it is. Now, I'm good for not knowing what it is. And I was like, I was like, can we get a genre of music? And somebody was like, Skyband. And I looked at the team like, what the hell is a Skyband?

• 48:52Laci Mosley?

  You ain't heard no fish?

• 48:55Speaker 03

  Name one.

• 48:55Laci Mosley?

  You have a white husband.

• 48:57Speaker 03

  I do now, but at the time, I was like, what is, I said, and so I said, okay, I heard Skyman. And can I get a, a profession, any profession? Somebody was like, blacksmith. And I, and I had.

• 49:08Laci Mosley?

  That day, we working with the iron.

• 49:10Speaker 03

  I hear you now, but I think I was so in my head. I literally started seeing, I was like, baby, I'm the blackest smith there is. I was like, I don't, I, I, I just. You still worked with it? You still worked with it? I said, ain't no smith. Cause the smith, a smith is a very black name, you see. Yeah. But I. And you were the blackest. I, I, cause I was thinking like, there, you only said that because I was up here. I, I don't know, I don't, what, I don't know why getting blacksmith felt racially charged in that moment. I don't know. I, I know I'm making things up.

• 49:41Laci Mosley?

  I don't think you're making things up. Because at an improv show too, there's always that one person who's suggesting, you got the one horny person who's always suggesting a horny thing that we have to like ignore.

• 49:49Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:50Laci Mosley?

  Then you got a bunch of people suggesting food.

• 49:52Speaker 03

  I'd be like, name one woman.

• 49:53Laci Mosley?

  Let us.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  Name one woman from history.

• 49:55Laci Mosley?

  Bitch, okay, I guess we work at a Subway.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  I would sooner do that than get up there and be like, I'd be like, name one woman from history. Uh, Harriet Tubman.

• 50:02Laci Mosley?

  You got up there, they were like suggesting.

• 50:04Speaker 03

  This is Harriet.

• 50:04Laci Mosley?

  They were like, Charlie Kirk.

• 50:06Speaker 03

  Right, like, right. They're, they're just trying to mess with you. So I'm kind of like, you know what? Let me do stand up. I'll do stand up.

• 50:11Laci Mosley?

  So she done got forty men to suffer through.

• 50:14Speaker 03

  Forty.

• 50:14Laci Mosley?

  The blackest smith.

• 50:15Speaker 03

  The blackest smith that, that can be.

• 50:17Laci Mosley?

  And they're willing to pay for a drink. So I'm guessing now that your friend is a baddie. And because she, she done got these people offline, in real IRLs.

• 50:27Speaker 03

  IRL.

• 50:27Laci Mosley?

  To go to an improv show.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  From pictures and flirting alone.

• 50:30Laci Mosley?

  Pictures and flirting alone. Also, she had to do a lot of flirting. This is a lot of work to do to have this many conversations. I hope she was copy pasting a little bit because like, this is a lot.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  I'm telling you, the pictures speak for themselves.

• 50:39Laci Mosley?

  This is when you gotta start giving good morning texts like, hey boo. Everybody gotta be boo, because we can't, we can't name names.

• 50:45Speaker 03

  So, um, uh, forty men.

• 50:47Laci Mosley?

  The night of the show, they all showed up. My friend said she yes-anded her heart out on that stage.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  She ate that.

• 50:55Laci Mosley?

  Now, this is also giving hater, Chucky, because why you talking about my friend saying, you ain't go to the improv show? You gotta, that's one of the things you gotta do when you love your friend is go to their bad improv shows. I've done it. You gotta do it.

• 51:05Speaker 03

  Friends go to friends bad improv shows.

• 51:08Laci Mosley?

  And we hoot and holler, and we give good suggestions.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  And they have to show you be like, well, girl, the stage lights were on.

• 51:14Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  You just say something honest.

• 51:17Laci Mosley?

  You just say things that are true.

• 51:18Speaker 03

  And you look like you having fun up there.

• 51:20Laci Mosley?

  Those jeans were so cute on you, and when you were walking, you were really walking.

• 51:24Speaker 03

  And serving. I said, hey eyebrows.

• 51:26Laci Mosley?

  Right? You made lots of expressions.

• 51:29Speaker 03

  And you made choices on that stage tonight.

• 51:31Laci Mosley?

  A lot of choices. Choices were made.

• 51:33Speaker 03

  Choices were made.

• 51:34Laci Mosley?

  And I was here for them.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  And I was.

• 51:35Laci Mosley?

  Because I was present.

• 51:36Speaker 03

  In the audience. Right, right.

• 51:38Laci Mosley?

  We not giving no insults. These are just, we just stating facts. We not gonna lie.

• 51:41Speaker 03

  No notes. Yeah, just show up.

• 51:43Laci Mosley?

  Once the show was over, she nervously said hello to a few of the single men, telling each one she had to go talk to this talent manager and she would be right back. Fake smile on her face, she made her way out the back door and ran down the street, never looking back. The show was a success, with each romantic interest clapping for her wildly.

• 52:06Speaker 03

  Ooh, ooh. She ate that.

• 52:09Laci Mosley?

  The manager never showed.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  You're lying to me.

• 52:13Laci Mosley?

  She set up this perfect situation. She got the thirstiest of men, just clapping for make them up.

• 52:21Speaker 03

  Bravo. No one does a standing ovation at an improv show.

• 52:25Laci Mosley?

  No, no, they leave immediately.

• 52:27Speaker 03

  Immediately. Halfway through the show.

• 52:29Laci Mosley?

  They don't want the lights to come up so you can see how fast they're running out of the door. And, and, and why would they do this?

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh, she ate this except the manager didn't come.

• 52:38Laci Mosley?

  And that's, that's messed up.

• 52:40Speaker 03

  I'm so mad for her. She put in so much work.

• 52:41Laci Mosley?

  So when she told me this story, Chucky, I thought ill of her because I felt sorry for all those poor fellas who were hoping to meet their true love that night. But having been on dating sites recently and seeing the amount of creeps out there, chances are they were all incels and narcissists. So now I feel like, good for her.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  Right.

• 53:01Laci Mosley?

  Hope you enjoyed this mass romance scam with a New York City twist. Love your show, anonymous listener fan. Now, Minnie, that's how you say anonymous. You just say anonymous at the end. And you don't give no names. But Minnie, I still got your back, queen, because you still bestie. You're still bestie. Give them five stars, bestie.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  Not, not feeling bad for the gentleman.

• 53:20Laci Mosley?

  That's how I know this is a man.

• 53:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, you said, you called it. You said, this is the gay man right here.

• 53:25Laci Mosley?

  Yes, a fabulous one.

• 53:26Speaker 03

  A fabulous one, as we know.

• 53:27Laci Mosley?

  Who keeps beautiful friends.

• 53:29Speaker 03

  But you did not have to say, what about the men?

• 53:31Laci Mosley?

  Friends I have as actress.

• 53:32Speaker 03

  Of course, of course, so many.

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, she's crazy, but we love her.

• 53:37Speaker 03

  And they damn sure wouldn't say, what about the poor men that showed up for you?

• 53:40Laci Mosley?

  Hell, no.

• 53:43Speaker 03

  What are you, new here?

• 53:43Laci Mosley?

  But also, this is the 90s, online dating was new.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  Gotcha.

• 53:47Laci Mosley?

  So this isn't like swiping now where everyone's like, oh, you're 200 feet from my house, I'll swipe on you. Or like, a lot of guys go on dating apps and just swipe right on every single woman to up their stats.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:58Laci Mosley?

  Because it's like, any woman, any hole. But so, I understand, he was like, for a second, like, maybe somebody in there was actually excited to meet this lady and was willing to suffer through her improv show. But then he was like, actually, fuck them.

• 54:10Speaker 03

  Right, well, I guess we'll never know.

• 54:13Laci Mosley?

  Well, I guess we'll never know.

• 54:14Speaker 03

  Well, one of the 40 were probably a quality guy.

• 54:17Laci Mosley?

  Yep, the next one we have here, I need a fake name for this person. They have titled their letter, "My Reverse Scam."

• 54:24Speaker 03

  On Mouse theme, we'll go with Remy.

• 54:26Laci Mosley?

  Remy. From Ratatouille, so hopefully you can cook, Remy.

• 54:31Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:32Laci Mosley?

  So, Remy says, "Hello, I'm new to your podcast and I love it." We love new people, yes, you all have so much fun. We do, Remy, welcome to the fun. You having a good time right now, Remy? We hope that for you. Tell a friend, have your baby listen to it in another room, get the streams up. Apple Podcasts, five stars, come to the live shows.

• 54:49Speaker 03

  Baby, friends, enemies, get everybody on the horn.

• 54:51Laci Mosley?

  Enemies as well, okay? Because as we see, like, we had an enemy up here with Minnie, and Minnie gave us a very thorough breakdown because clearly, Aruba was her enemy. And an enemy can write a story better than anybody else.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  Any, oh.

• 55:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I love an enemy story.

• 55:06Speaker 03

  Oh, I, I, you ever be like, I write my best jokes when I'm just mad as hell?

• 55:11Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 55:12Speaker 03

  I mean, pen be sharp those days, and you can't even sharpen a pen. Right, right, I got a few things to get off my chest.

• 55:19Laci Mosley?

  You know when it's real sharp? When you flip the page over and you see the indentation of the words you wrote on the first page? That's how you know you're really cooking. So, Remy says, hello, I'm new to your podcast, right? Remy said, I wanted to share with you a recent attempted scam on me, which I have had a hard time stopping them from calling my phone. A few months back, I started getting multiple calls a day from my phone company wanting to loan me money. So she was getting multiple calls a day on her phone for a company that wanted to loan her money. I've also gotten these calls and a lot of voicemails that I've had to block. Sometimes they'll try to mimic your area code so that you'll pick up even though it's an unknown number because you might think it's someone from your hometown that maybe switched phones or things like that.

• 56:00Speaker 03

  And they say, we want to give you some money to loan from us.

• 56:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we got money for you. So at the time, I was working for $19 per hour. So I have no idea if this triggered these people to start calling, but blocking and deleting numbers didn't stop them. That's why I said, because they'll keep going. They just cloned the number. Then I got fired.

• 56:21Speaker 03

  And you needed that loan and you was waiting by the phone.

• 56:23Laci Mosley?

  So now to desperation, you done got fired. Everybody was getting fired and I understand. So she said, then the calls continued to come nonstop. Now they, how they know you got fired?

• 56:36Speaker 03

  They watching the house. They say she ain't leaving for work no more.

• 56:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she used to, she was out of here by 8:30. And now, and now that car parked.

• 56:46Laci Mosley?

  And I looked through the window, she been watching Young and the Restless. That's unemployed behavior.

• 56:50Speaker 03

  God, she's going through pints of ice cream. She's been laid off.

• 56:54Laci Mosley?

  Did y'all see her bringing that rum? She had a 10, a 12 pack. Yeah, we got to keep calling her. So the calls continued to come nonstop. I called them and cussed them out, telling them to stop calling me. The calls kept coming. I was really angry after I got fired. We were just talking about anger, sometimes you can use it. So I was bound and determined to find a way to stop the calls. I had some time on my hands because of the undropping. The undropping.

• 57:25Speaker 03

  Dropping.

• 57:27Laci Mosley?

  She got on jobs, so she has some free time. And she said, this all happened during the government shutdown. So the do not call registry was not an option because the government has shut down, which, you know, it's, it likes to do that a lot these days.

• 57:41Speaker 03

  Dang, Remy.

• 57:41Laci Mosley?

  Which is why, please pray for the TSA agents. Because when the DHS shuts down, TSA shuts down. And if you thought they was angry before, they not getting checks right now, okay?

• 57:50Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 57:51Laci Mosley?

  So I let them, I let them touch my hair now.

• 57:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:54Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, you need to pat in here?

• 57:55Speaker 03

  Do whatever you got, I'll take a pat down.

• 57:56Laci Mosley?

  Like, get the pad down there, bro, bro Ham. We can do it. No, we didn't even gotta go to the room. We just do it right out here. Stick my arms out. And God bless you, and God bless you. Y'all want my shoes off socks too? Raw toe. I'll give y'all whatever y'all want. Because I know you going through it right now, okay?

• 58:13Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh, that's horrible.

• 58:14Laci Mosley?

  I know. So, Remy says, my first tactic was to use something I encountered while working in the wireless tech support space. When the agent came on the line, I went to the bathroom and flushed the toilet. I don't know what technical skill that is. Off putting?

• 58:30Speaker 03

  Right.

• 58:31Laci Mosley?

  I, I, I mean.

• 58:32Speaker 03

  Does it mess up their, the, the sound on the other end? If they, all they hear is like, whoosh.

• 58:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I don't know. Or maybe they're just like, oh, this person must be using the bathroom. I feel like me using the bathroom would be more off putting. I'd be like, ugh.

• 58:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 58:44Laci Mosley?

  Ah. This is a big one.

• 58:47Speaker 03

  I would cue up some like bubble gut sounds on YouTube, be like, this'll get them.

• 58:51Laci Mosley?

  I need a drink more fiber. Ah.

• 58:55Laci Mosley?

  Like, what? Why is it green? Like, I don't know. Like, I think that would be more disturbing.

• 59:00Speaker 03

  Just like glasses breaking in the bag. Like, hello?

• 59:03Laci Mosley?

  Right. So the calls kept coming.

• 59:07Speaker 03

  Right.

• 59:07Laci Mosley?

  At the, the flush didn't work. Also, like, if you flush it, you basically saying you done with whatever you did. So now you ready to go, right?

• 59:14Speaker 03

  Ready to, right. They're like, oh, we can pause while you're.

• 59:16Laci Mosley?

  Right, go ahead, wash your hands.

• 59:18Speaker 03

  Okay, she's flushed, we've heard the hand washing. Now we're ready for our, our loan pitch.

• 59:23Speaker 03

  This is not, how did your number get on this call list?

• 59:26Laci Mosley?

  They sold all of our information and they told us it was data breaches.

• 59:29Speaker 03

  I sound like my daddy now. What you getting called for?

• 59:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah, you're like, what you getting called? Why they calling you?

• 59:36Speaker 03

  Why they calling you?

• 59:36Laci Mosley?

  Why do you wanna be called? It's like, can I not be the first line of defense? Can we not victim blame here?

• 59:42Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 59:42Laci Mosley?

  But parents love to do that. I called them with a problem and they're like, let's look at you.

• 59:46Speaker 03

  My mama be like...

• 59:47Laci Mosley?

  Why were you there?

• 59:48Speaker 03

  Don't call my mama with a microaggression or a slight thing that happened. She's like, microaggression? They used to burn crosses in our yards, Amber? I'm just like, okay, this is why I can't call you and tell you about...

• 1:00:02Laci Mosley?

  No, because their stories be crazy.

• 1:00:04Speaker 03

  Somebody tried to touch my hair. Oh, oh, is that all? We used to have to sit in separate seats in the cafeteria, Amber. I'm like, okay.

• 1:00:12Laci Mosley?

  Elderly white parents be like, I had to walk four miles to school in the snow, barefoot. Older black parents be like, I had to walk 17 miles to school in the snow, barefoot, with the clan calling me the N-word and chasing me down.

• 1:00:28Speaker 03

  A hose. They used to spray us with hoses, Amber.

• 1:00:31Laci Mosley?

  And now you're saying some white lady called you angry on a Zoom?

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  Right. And you were in your home? Oh, please.

• 1:00:37Laci Mosley?

  Did she burn a cross? Did she turn a pillowcase into a hat with eye holes?

• 1:00:42Speaker 03

  Anything. You're like, Mom, I just found out my boyfriend was cheating on me. Well, back in my day, we had to hire a private investigator.

• 1:00:50Laci Mosley?

  Your grandfather had four families and we had to fight them at the funeral.

• 1:00:54Speaker 03

  And your grandmother just took it each time?

• 1:00:56Laci Mosley?

  And at the funeral, we lost one of the guns and then we had to look for it in the cemetery. That's actually pulls for a real thing that happened in my life.

• 1:01:04Speaker 03

  Well, yeah. Mama ate that if they was at the cemetery.

• 1:01:07Laci Mosley?

  I'm never gonna say who, but yeah, you know. So, back to, so they tried flush method. Flush method didn't work to get rid of the calls.

• 1:01:15Speaker 03

  Aggressively flushing didn't work.

• 1:01:16Laci Mosley?

  So, Remy says, my next move was to call and pretend that I didn't speak English. So now the calls are continuing.

• 1:01:24Speaker 03

  No inglés, yes.

• 1:01:25Laci Mosley?

  Now you calling back. Uh, you, no habla, no habla.

• 1:01:29Speaker 03

  Remy, at some point, you're having fun.

• 1:01:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm joking, she unemployed right now.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  You're bored and unemployed.

• 1:01:34Laci Mosley?

  She on a job.

• 1:01:35Speaker 03

  So you're trying some new acting tactics.

• 1:01:37Laci Mosley?

  And I love this for you. So the calls kept coming, even after the, me no hablo, no hablo. Phone keeps ringing.

• 1:01:43Speaker 03

  And they would say, oh, we hablo. Right, they're like, oh, we're bilingual here.

• 1:01:47Laci Mosley?

  We're bilingual.

• 1:01:47Speaker 03

  We, we got somebody to talk to you, dang.

• 1:01:49Laci Mosley?

  We speak money in every language.

• 1:01:51Speaker 03

  Every language.

• 1:01:52Laci Mosley?

  Okay, why so, organashimas, that mean check please in Japanese, let's keep going. We just need the money.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  Uh, did we, Lacey just casually flexed that she knows how to say check please in Japanese. They would take it too long with the check, Lacey, I can see you looking at her.

• 1:02:06Laci Mosley?

  Our sisterships, like, they mostly spoke Japanese, so we had to know some transactional things to get through the day. But the calls kept coming.

• 1:02:13Speaker 03

  Kept coming.

• 1:02:14Laci Mosley?

  So, Remy says, I went to a local shop here that sells novelties, and I got a fart machine.

• 1:02:21Speaker 03

  Remy, you do it everything but turning these people off.

• 1:02:27Laci Mosley?

  Remy, why is this your new job? Remy, why are we like, this is my new employment? Just fucking with these people.

• 1:02:31Speaker 03

  Remy, they can't smell it, it's not a spray that would send them off.

• 1:02:35Laci Mosley?

  Remy, you don't know how to do the hand thing, where they get the handle and cleaning.

• 1:02:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, or like, hand under the armpit.

• 1:02:39Laci Mosley?

  Under the armpit, that was, that was something in middle school everybody did.

• 1:02:42Speaker 03

  What you doing buying a fart machine?

• 1:02:44Laci Mosley?

  You can't afford a fart machine right now.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  You can't afford a fart machine.

• 1:02:47Laci Mosley?

  In this economy, in this economy. But thank you for keeping the fart machine business-y, like, those businesses in, in, you know, cause I-

• 1:02:55Speaker 03

  Support local businesses.

• 1:02:55Laci Mosley?

  Support local businesses. They did say it was local, and also, novelties in a poor financial economy, like, those, nobody's getting a whoopee cushion when times are hard.

• 1:03:04Speaker 03

  A rubber chicken, she said, oh, this, they won't know what to do with this, like, the hand buzzer. You're like, Remy, is this the best use of our time right now?

• 1:03:12Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, you're supporting local businesses, Remy, I'm on your side. So when the agent would pick up, I would put my phone on speaker and start hitting the button on my fart machine. This resulted in my call being blocked. When I called back for a while, it also took the calls down to once a day. But once a day, usually in the evening, they kept calling. Now, Remy, I also want to say, I'm gonna clock your age here a little bit, because you went to- Local business to buy a fart machine. When you could have just gone on your computer and YouTube.

• 1:03:41Speaker 03

  YouTube, right.

• 1:03:42Laci Mosley?

  And then that would have been free, free farts. And.

• 1:03:45Speaker 03

  She said she wanted it to sound authentic.

• 1:03:46Laci Mosley?

  But you, you supported local businesses. So everyone get out there, buy those fart machines and support your local businesses. So to wrap this up, Remy says, so my last move on this.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  To cancel the one call a day. Okay.

• 1:03:58Laci Mosley?

  Now she's down, they're down to one call a day.

• 1:04:00Speaker 03

  One call a day.

• 1:04:01Laci Mosley?

  But because the calls are decreasing, when the agent would answer the phone, I said, dude, where's my shit?

• 1:04:09Speaker 03

  Okay, something new. And you know what? You didn't spend money to say, dude, where's my shit?

• 1:04:12Laci Mosley?

  You did not.

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  So I appreciate you for that.

• 1:04:14Laci Mosley?

  Crickets. That's what Remy heard. Silence. And then the person would say, excuse me? To which I responded, I got your money. Where's my shit? Silence. And then, lady, you have the wrong number. Have a good night. I think it's working. The calls are only coming every few days now. Just wanted to share so you can all have a good laugh. Thank you, Remy.

• 1:04:44Speaker 03

  This is like the, you know, like the scenes in Home Alone where he's like putting the movie on every single time the robbers come?

• 1:04:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Remy.

• 1:04:54Laci Mosley?

  I, I appreciate your dedication to the bit. And also I'm starting to see now that I think she went to the novelty store because she, she's unjobbed at the moment. And, and that gave her through.

• 1:05:06Speaker 03

  Politically correct here is, damn goddess. The unjobbed.

• 1:05:09Laci Mosley?

  The unhoused, the unjobs. The unbaddied.

• 1:05:13Speaker 03

  The unbaddied.

• 1:05:14Laci Mosley?

  You know, we, we had a rule, but she was a baddie. Minnie, I hope you're a baddie too. I think you were. I think you just, you, you got off the train a little too soon and all the other baddies are on the private jets.

• 1:05:26Speaker 03

  I find myself un Balenciagad at the time, right now, but I'm getting there.

• 1:05:31Laci Mosley?

  But that could change.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  Balenciagad one day. Yes, yes.

• 1:05:34Laci Mosley?

  So next we're going, I need another fake name for this person.

• 1:05:38Speaker 03

  Ooh, who's another? Batty rat out there.

• 1:05:42Laci Mosley?

  Okay, we did.

• 1:05:43Speaker 03

  A rat?

• 1:05:43Laci Mosley?

  Mickey?

• 1:05:44Speaker 03

  Mickey? We didn't do Mickey yet. Let's go with Mickey.

• 1:05:46Laci Mosley?

  Let's go with Mickey. So Mickey says, "My identity was used by a stranger inside and outside of jail."

• 1:05:54Speaker 03

  Now, now you ate when I'm in the pen, but when I'm out, uh-uh. I want my name back.

• 1:05:58Laci Mosley?

  Now, I don't know if the stranger was using it inside and then got free and was using it outside. We don't know yet. Or if you were in the jail and then, in the, because like, yeah, if you in jail, we should all be able to do identity fraud with you.

• 1:06:11Speaker 03

  Right, right.

• 1:06:12Laci Mosley?

  Because like, you in jail.

• 1:06:13Speaker 03

  You, you might have did something bad. This, this somebody getting they lick back. They get to use your social security number.

• 1:06:17Laci Mosley?

  There's certain crimes that I just feel like get way too long of jail time. If you're not physically harming people, if you're, if you're scamming up, like, some of these sentences just don't match up. The math don't be mathin' for greater crimes. It all really kind of just depends socio-economically, what you have going on. And they want recidivism because private prisons want heads in bed, so they want you to come back to jail.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 1:06:36Laci Mosley?

  I feel like when you leave jail, they be like, "See you soon." I'm like, "Don't say that."

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  That's what the, yes. BRB.

• 1:06:41Laci Mosley?

  See you later. No, I don't ever want to see you. BRB.

• 1:06:44Speaker 03

  Signing that yearbook. Hags, honey. Because we gonna see you back next semester.

• 1:06:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no. We should want people who have been incarcerated to, they to get a trade.

• 1:06:54Speaker 03

  Transition back into society.

• 1:06:55Laci Mosley?

  And they get back into society, not come back.

• 1:06:57Speaker 03

  Right. They said, "Now, we gonna put this ankle brace on you, and if you walk to your kitchen, we coming to kitchen."

• 1:07:02Laci Mosley?

  We coming to kitchen.

• 1:07:03Speaker 03

  Like, "Dah, okay."

• 1:07:03Laci Mosley?

  And you gotta go check in with these people all the time. Don't miss it.

• 1:07:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, don't miss a call. Make sure your phone is charged. Don't, don't take a nap.

• 1:07:12Laci Mosley?

  So, this person, Mickey says, "I have a scam slash identity theft story that still makes me say, 'There's no way this is real.'" And I think it would be a great fit for the show. Okay, we got a pitch here. So Mickey says, "After a car break-in, my driver's license was stolen. Months later, I discovered through USPS informed delivery that there was a scanned letter from a local jail addressed to me saying my boyfriend, in quotes, was being transferred to prison and that I needed to come pick up his belongings. I did not have a boyfriend in jail." Okay, so what in the love after or during lockup is going on?

• 1:07:55Speaker 03

  My boyfriend is in prison, not jail, okay? So this can't be my man.

• 1:08:00Laci Mosley?

  I think I would know if Mbooki was in the clings. I think I would know.

• 1:08:05Speaker 03

  My boyfriend wasn't in jail that week.

• 1:08:06Laci Mosley?

  So it said, "I did not know this person." Mickey said, "I don't know this person." "The letter itself never arrived because the apartment number was intentionally left off, "but the scan showed me something I was never meant to see."

• 1:08:19Speaker 03

  Oh, my favorite things to see.

• 1:08:21Laci Mosley?

  "I self-led an investigation." That's country.

• 1:08:25Speaker 03

  Very.

• 1:08:25Laci Mosley?

  That just means you being nosy. I self-led investigations all the time.

• 1:08:29Speaker 03

  A sophisticated way of saying it.

• 1:08:31Laci Mosley?

  That's kind of a bad bitch going through her man phone. "I self-led an investigation while he was in the shower through his phone."

• 1:08:38Speaker 03

  We call that instincts, dear, and I love that for her.

• 1:08:41Laci Mosley?

  No, it was just a self-led investigation.

• 1:08:42Speaker 03

  Just a self-led.

• 1:08:44Laci Mosley?

  And, well, you know, where myself was at the helm.

• 1:08:48Speaker 03

  I self-led myself to the, somebody else's lunch in the workroom. That's what I did.

• 1:08:53Laci Mosley?

  So, "I self-led this investigation where I realized an incarcerated stranger "had used my stolen ID while being booked, "listed me as his girlfriend, "and triggered multiple accounts tied to my identity across jail systems and beyond. "Law enforcement help was minimal. "So at 25 years old, I began, I became my own detective. "I began documenting evidence and eventually forcing the situation open through legal action." Okay, Mickey is giving unjobbed as well. How did you have so much time?

• 1:09:30Speaker 03

  Now he wrote you down as his emergency contact, just in case. I said, "What?"

• 1:09:36Speaker 03

  She wrote me down first.

• 1:09:37Laci Mosley?

  Every jailhouse he done gone to, Schoolhouse, Out House. He done wrote your name down.

• 1:09:43Speaker 03

  Baby, you and me?

• 1:09:44Laci Mosley?

  That's babe.

• 1:09:44Speaker 03

  We gotta see each other again.

• 1:09:46Laci Mosley?

  Is this romantic? Nancy Meyers, chime in. Is this a new movie?

• 1:09:50Speaker 03

  I don't, I don't, what would be the benefit of revealing whose car you broke into? Like, like, why would you, you already stole from me. Why are you letting me know where you currently are?

• 1:10:00Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:10:01Speaker 03

  That's dangerous, unless you wanted me to find you. Yeah, maybe this is a love connection.

• 1:10:05Laci Mosley?

  Right, cuz I mean, we don't know what she looked like in her ID photo.

• 1:10:07Speaker 03

  I was flirting with her.

• 1:10:08Laci Mosley?

  Aruba.

• 1:10:09Speaker 03

  I broke into your car to flirt with you, girl.

• 1:10:11Laci Mosley?

  He was looking good.

• 1:10:12Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:10:13Laci Mosley?

  Y'all think he was trying to scapegoat her, or be like, oh, it was her, it was her, not me, or anything like that? I mean, there also could be something, the fairies just brought up that point of like, maybe he was writing her name down so much, trying to set her up and be like, it wasn't me, it was my girlfriend. Let me out of the prison.

• 1:10:31Speaker 03

  But just to, but just to lead that trail that I'm the one who stole from you and I'm gonna keep using your name, it's kinda crazy.

• 1:10:39Laci Mosley?

  But across multiple jail systems, and you have to think about how lazy law enforcement is, and again, how thirsty they are for criminals to be in them beds, okay? Orange is the New Black was an inspirational piece for private prison owners. They were like, wow, we could get even more women.

• 1:10:55Speaker 03

  They gave them ideas.

• 1:10:56Laci Mosley?

  We need to get more women in jail.

• 1:10:58Speaker 03

  More, oh my gosh, you're so right. And here are new inventive waves to lock them up.

• 1:11:04Laci Mosley?

  Inventive waves, and we could've got them in jail over a man. Half of Orange is the New Black stories, when they were like reflecting, I did stop watching after they did that Eric Garner murder with Pusay. I just thought that was too far and I stopped watching. But before that, all of the background stories basically all boiled down to, I'm in jail cuz of a man.

• 1:11:20Speaker 03

  Cuz of, no, literally.

• 1:11:21Laci Mosley?

  They were like, I took the charge for this man. This man had all the weight at the house, and I was at the house, and now I gotta...

• 1:11:27Speaker 03

  That's true. Anytime you watch like Women Who Kill, or something like that, every woman's like, well, he was choking me, so I had to stab him 58 times. And you're like, I, I hear you, queen. Like, I, I'm, every episode, I'm on the woman's side. But it's, it's psycho to me when people kinda return back to the scene of the crime, or, or leave that trail.

• 1:11:44Laci Mosley?

  Or go to the funeral. Like, why are you trying to see?

• 1:11:47Speaker 03

  Like, you like it. This is, this is thrilling for you.

• 1:11:49Laci Mosley?

  Like, you sitting in the funeral in the back like, hee hee hee.

• 1:11:51Speaker 03

  That was me. You see the body out there? I did that.

• 1:11:54Laci Mosley?

  I did that.

• 1:11:54Speaker 03

  Like, wait, why are you here?

• 1:11:56Laci Mosley?

  Why are you in here, sir?

• 1:11:58Speaker 03

  This must be her cousin or something? Why would he write her down?

• 1:12:00Laci Mosley?

  But I think that just by attaching her name to several different prisons, like when you think about the prison industrial complex, like and the due diligence that they do, if your name is popping up in a system, these people might just be like, well, your name's in the system. So I guess we gonna come get your ass. You know what I mean? Like without any technicality, without even looking into it. Because why would they?

• 1:12:21Speaker 03

  Why would they?

• 1:12:22Laci Mosley?

  That doesn't benefit them. They need another slave in the prison.

• 1:12:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:12:26Laci Mosley?

  So I'm a little confused as to why.

• 1:12:28Speaker 03

  You right. Let's see, we gotta keep our thinking caps on, y'all.

• 1:12:31Laci Mosley?

  Right here.

• 1:12:32Speaker 03

  I feel like that, like, Bro Podcast, deep, deep.

• 1:12:34Laci Mosley?

  So the result was a binding settlement requiring full deletion of accounts, return of Mickey's driver's license, and a permanent no contact order. But the journey from there was surreal and exhausting and honestly wild. This is Mickey's words. Mickey says, "The story isn't just about identity theft. It's about how scammers exploit the gaps between systems."

• 1:12:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:12:59Laci Mosley?

  How something as simple as USPS informed delivery can crack a case open, and how a regular person ends up doing the investigative work themselves.

• 1:13:09Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 1:13:10Laci Mosley?

  Because they gotta be doing self-led investigations.

• 1:13:13Speaker 03

  Most self- oh.

• 1:13:14Laci Mosley?

  A new, a new term that we learned.

• 1:13:16Speaker 03

  Self-led.

• 1:13:16Laci Mosley?

  Self-led.

• 1:13:17Speaker 03

  You're unemployed.

• 1:13:18Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:13:19Speaker 03

  But see, I'm not self-employed. I'm self-led at the moment.

• 1:13:21Laci Mosley?

  I lead myself to places. You feel me? I get a whoopee cushion for the fart sounds and, and it's self-led. You get me?

• 1:13:29Speaker 03

  Some man is listening to this show right there. They're like, I'm gonna send it on my date tonight when she asks, what do I do for work? Well, you know, I'm kind of self-led right now.

• 1:13:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:36Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm, from this job to that job.

• 1:13:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:40Speaker 03

  But it is a self-led journey.

• 1:13:41Laci Mosley?

  I don't really believe in bosses. You know what I mean? I'm an independent thinker. I'm, I'm in a self-led procession.

• 1:13:46Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm leading myself. Who else would be leading you? A, a mom-led, yeah.

• 1:13:50Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, no. Don't worry about that. You're asking too many questions. Just know.

• 1:13:54Speaker 03

  Just know, all leads have been made, taken by me.

• 1:13:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, okay. And this person also said, Mickey said, "I'd love to share the story with your audience if you think it fits. Thank you for the laughs and the scam education that you bring every week." I'm also curious, like, M- Mickey, are you on job?

• 1:14:11Laci Mosley?

  While you were doing all this self-led law enforcement. And then you're also bringing up USPS informed delivery and saying that they can crack a case open. Now, what I, do you work for the USPS informed delivery? Cause this is a great advertisement for them. And I'm actually gonna agree with you because y'all don't understand, I say this all the time on this podcast. If y'all don't remember, uh, the last thing you wanna see is that truck pull up without them doors. Cause if they get you on mail fraud, baby, you're going to prison.

• 1:14:41Speaker 03

  Prison.

• 1:14:42Laci Mosley?

  Okay, they pick you up, they ain't got no doors or no AC, they throwing you in the back.

• 1:14:46Speaker 03

  I'm taking notes now, no doors, no AC, I'm getting thrown.

• 1:14:49Laci Mosley?

  I've just, I, I, I need to know, is this, is this an ad? USPS sponsoring the show.

• 1:14:54Speaker 03

  Wait, this is making me think, so of course, this has only happened to me one time. But one time I was in Thailand and my passport got stolen.

• 1:15:03Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 1:15:04Speaker 03

  I know, I know. But I was also thinking like, this ain't gonna get that far, this is like a black girl. It's a US passport, but it's a black girl, like who, who would be, but so is, is something gonna happen?

• 1:15:15Laci Mosley?

  People in Thailand be tanned.

• 1:15:16Speaker 03

  They be tanned, but I mean.

• 1:15:18Laci Mosley?

  Somebody could've been out in the sun.

• 1:15:19Speaker 03

  But they would have to do their big one with me, cause I was like very, you know, I had locks in my hair. Like you gotta get real, like it, it wouldn't just be a tan, it would be, you know, tan, full lips. You gotta put locks in, you gotta really work to look how I looked in that passport. Am I going to be connected to somebody in, in a jail in Thailand one day potentially? How, how far, now this, this happened about 10 years ago.

• 1:15:45Laci Mosley?

  I don't think.

• 1:15:45Speaker 03

  How, how far can this passport have gone?

• 1:15:47Laci Mosley?

  Did you see that one movie about the Thailand prison?

• 1:15:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:15:51Laci Mosley?

  With the white ladies?

• 1:15:52Speaker 03

  Uh-oh.

• 1:15:53Laci Mosley?

  Y'all know this movie, it's the iconic one. Where it was like, there was two party white girls and one, she was the amber of the, or the, the aruba of the group.

• 1:16:03Speaker 03

  Always a stupid amber in a group, too.

• 1:16:04Laci Mosley?

  And she, and she had them smuggling drugs.

• 1:16:08Speaker 03

  I didn't see that.

• 1:16:08Laci Mosley?

  Breakdown Palace? It's called Breakdown Palace.

• 1:16:10Speaker 03

  I say, I know Amanda Knox and them.

• 1:16:12Laci Mosley?

  You don't gotta worry about nobody contacting you from Thailand if they got your passport. Cause them prisons is, they're, they're. Those are disappearing places.

• 1:16:21Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:16:22Laci Mosley?

  At least that's what they told me in Broke Down Palace. And I was like, well, I'm never gonna break the law in the airport.

• 1:16:27Speaker 03

  Oh, that's heartbreaking. I hate that now I have to be like, okay, well, thank God for me. But that I have no segue to get out of this.

• 1:16:33Laci Mosley?

  Did you get your passport back?

• 1:16:34Speaker 03

  No, I just got another, I went to US Embassy, got another passport, and now I have a brand new passport. But I remember for, for at least a couple of months after, I was like, dang, what's gonna happen? Like, was this sold on the black market in Thailand? What happens now?

• 1:16:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:47Speaker 03

  But I got out the country, so I'm, you know, I'm back.

• 1:16:49Laci Mosley?

  That's all that matters.

• 1:16:50Speaker 03

  I'm back, I'm good.

• 1:16:51Laci Mosley?

  But with that information, like, yeah, this person stole the driver's license and then signed them up for every prison registry out there to be like, yeah, this is my girlfriend. Oh, if y'all need, if I have an emergency, hit up my boo thing. She need to put some money in my books for my phone calls, like, why?

• 1:17:05Speaker 03

  Maybe he wanted to apologize. Maybe he was like, I hope she reaches out to me so I could tell her that I shouldn't have stole from you and I shouldn't be here. I should, I should have just kept walking. I should have stolen the next car.

• 1:17:16Laci Mosley?

  That's such a like, bright, like, way to look at this. Like, he was just trying to contact her to apologize the entire time. He's like, I ain't mean it, boo.

• 1:17:24Speaker 03

  I'm guilty though, so do you think, do you think if you committed a crime against somebody later, you would be like, let me try to contact them to apologize? If, if you scammed up, would you, if you scammed up and got caught, would you one day try to be like, I'm sorry, fam?

• 1:17:39Laci Mosley?

  You didn't have to add got caught, because I'm not admitting it.

• 1:17:41Speaker 03

  Right, right, right. If you, if you, you got, you scammed up because you wouldn't scam down.

• 1:17:45Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:17:46Speaker 03

  You're classy. You scammed up, you got caught. Would you try to reconcile with the family and be like, I was tripping? Like, this was the, no, no. He said, I did what I did.

• 1:17:57Laci Mosley?

  We're all on an equal playing field. This is a part of life.

• 1:18:00Speaker 03

  I'm incarcerated now, so yeah, I don't have to apologize.

• 1:18:02Laci Mosley?

  You win some, you lose some.

• 1:18:05Speaker 03

  I feel like I could win them back, though. I'm charismatic.

• 1:18:08Laci Mosley?

  You're trying to get back in their household.

• 1:18:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna be like, hey, you just invited me over for dinner.

• 1:18:13Laci Mosley?

  But wasn't I?

• 1:18:14Speaker 03

  Let's let bygones be bygones.

• 1:18:16Laci Mosley?

  Wasn't I a great nanny before I stole the 200K? Like, I was nanny pop.

• 1:18:19Speaker 03

  Now, I got you. I did get you. But them kids asking about me, don't they?

• 1:18:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they want, they want Miss Amber back, and I could be back.

• 1:18:27Speaker 03

  That's like the only thing I did, though, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:18:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the only thing I did was steal a little 200K, a little 200K.

• 1:18:33Speaker 03

  And that was, oh man, that's a drop in the bucket for y'all.

• 1:18:35Laci Mosley?

  And y'all ain't even really miss it. Y'all ain't even really know.

• 1:18:38Speaker 03

  I got caught. Now that's just a funny story of a relationship.

• 1:18:42Laci Mosley?

  That we can all laugh about.

• 1:18:42Speaker 03

  This is gonna be a great chapter for your book. Like, what are you saying? We get along now.

• 1:18:46Laci Mosley?

  I made you more interesting.

• 1:18:47Speaker 03

  I feel like they would go for that.

• 1:18:49Laci Mosley?

  Big facts. And to that, we are going to wrap up the show. Thank you, Amber, for being here. This was such a fun episode, congregation. Well, first of all, we want to ask you, Amber, where would you like to be found? Anything that you would love to promote?

• 1:19:03Speaker 03

  Thank you so much for having me, Lacey. My only regret is I didn't bring my Scam Goddess book because you know I have it. I need you to sign it. The next time I see you, I'm going to bring the book so you can sign it. You can find me at BURR.IAM on Instagram. That's B U R R underscore I A M.

• 1:19:16Laci Mosley?

  Very fun.

• 1:19:17Speaker 03

  I'm currently, yes, if you just want to laugh at someone else's pain and suffering, find your way to my page. And also, I'm on a stand-up comedy tour right now, so I got some great shows coming up at a city near you. So just check out my page for all of those updates. And please, if you get a chance, listen to Quit Playin with Jasmine and Amber. We are both comedians. We're moms. We are hooting and hollering as well. So find your way to that podcast right after you listen to your favorite podcast, Scam Goddess.

• 1:19:43Laci Mosley?

  Yes, right after you read your scams. Thank you.

• 1:19:46Speaker 03

  Yes, I love your book, yes.

• 1:19:47Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. And yes, you can get my book anywhere books are sold or the audiobook. And y'all, I'm on tour right now too. So get on Ticketmaster slash Scam Goddess and get these tickets before they're gone because Ticketmaster is running this show. Y'all, y'all can't DM me like past live shows and I'll be like, oh, I got tickets. I subbed me now. Y'all, just get these tickets on time so we can all be there and turn up. We've got a great show planned for you. You can watch Going Dutch, Thursdays, 9:30 Eastern on Fox. If you want to watch me scamming as a military supply sergeant whose last name is literally Conway. Leave those Apple reviews. We really appreciate them. Whatever like app you listen to this on, leaving a five-star review is great for us. And that's your bit of activism for the day. And you can feel really good about helping a black woman. So go ahead and do that, too.

• 1:20:32Laci Mosley?

  And if you want to see the photos from our very petty and beautiful listeners who wrote in, and thank you all for your letters, [email protected]. You can all write in, send it to your friends and family. And if you want to see the photos, scamgoddesspod. And thank you so much for writing in. We love it every single time. And congregation, I want you to get out there. And I want you to self, say it with me, Amber.

• 1:20:56Speaker 03

  Self-lead.

• 1:20:58Laci Mosley?

  Self-lead your investigations.

• 1:21:01Speaker 03

  I was like, wait, that's what we were supposed to say, right?

• 1:21:03Laci Mosley?

  Yes, self-lead your investigations. You are your own self-leader of your investigations, okay? And if you are unjobbed, make use of that, like all of our wonderful listeners have.

• 1:21:15Speaker 03

  Support local.

• 1:21:16Laci Mosley?

  Support local fart machines. We're out.

• 1:21:24Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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