Fraud Friday: The NFT Banksy Con w/ Aida Osman

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Aida Osman (Rap Sh!t, Betty) to discuss how an elusive artist used a Banksy-inspired NFT to earn millions and how an Australian line dancing scheme went wrong. Plus, none of these scammers got caught in today's episode. (Originally Released 04/26/2021) CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Aida Osman: @shutupaida Research by Sharilyn Vera. SOURCES: https://entrepreneurshandbook.co/how-an-nft-artist-used-banksys-popularity-to-make-1-million-in-sales-e7ef4b2209d https://nftartreview.medium.com/the-pseudo-banksy-nft-and-intriguing-aspects-of-appropriation-art-b29a4258f611 https://ycharts.com/indicators/ethereum_price#:~:text=Basic%20Info,from%20156.82%20one%20year%20ago https://pestcontroloffice.com/faq.asp https://x.com/Brinkster0x/status/1362683886174498819 https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/02/line-dancing-scam-queensland-police-pursue-father-and-son-over-alleged-120000

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• 1:59Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right. Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:40Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin' congregation? Welcome to another installment of Scam Goddess, the podcast that's all about robbery and fraud and cons and you and me, honey. Guys, I'm what? Say it with me. I'm so what? Excited. Yes, very excited for this guest. I really am, because y'all know, I've been trying to scam to get this guest on the show. Um, slowly but surely, and I made it there. I did. We did it, guys. We did it, Jo. We did it. She's currently writing for one of the, oh my God, when this show comes out, it's gonna be one of the hottest shows. Uh, rap shit, another production, another ESA joint, um, which we love to see. And she's also one of the, what, what do we call? Leads? Stars? Uh, of podcasts? Uh, she hosted, I'll say that.

• 3:24Laci Mosley?

  Keep it, which I love so much. And if you guys, you know, Ira's been on, he's a friend of the show. He's been on the show two times. So I was so excited to get her, um, and her spicy hot takes. And also, if you're not following her on Twitter, @shutupaidah, uh, which is spelled like shut up and then A-I-D-A. Uh, so as you can already tell, it's Aida Osman. Hi.

• 3:44Speaker 05

  Hello. I'm so excited to be here. Geeked even.

• 3:48Laci Mosley?

  I'm so excited to have you, sis. Oh, woo. It's about to be a good ass time.

• 3:53Speaker 05

  No, we're not so much fun. So much fun will be had today.

• 3:58Laci Mosley?

  So wait, uh, Aida, what's your relationship with scams? Like, have you ever been scammed? Do you like them? Do you hate them? It could be anything.

• 4:05Speaker 05

  I can't believe all the guests that you had on here have talked about being, being scammed or their relationships to scam. And you about to have me incriminate myself.

• 4:14Laci Mosley?

  What crimes have you done and can you list them?

• 4:16Speaker 05

  First of all, you are talking to a, a true criminal, a reformed criminal, if anything. Girl, I'm from, I'm from Nebraska, which everybody's so sick of me reiterating, but I'm sorry it defines most of who I am. And Nebraska ain't shit to do but drugs and crime, bro. Like, that's all we was doing. And I feel like my relationship to scamming is I used to do some credit card scamming back in the day, back in early, that, that was before the chips, though. Chips came and like fucked my whole shit up. But this was when I was work, I was like in high school and working at a diner and my friend's big brother was like, uh, dark web, 4chan scammer nigga.

• 4:54Speaker 05

  We are problematic, no, we are problematic. And it was my job and my, my homegirl's job, his little sister, to just like, get credit card numbers and send it his way. And then we would just collect and never think about it ever again. Cause we worked at a diner. So we had high traffic, like just put the, scan the card, then put it in the skimmer, put it in the reader and just go on your merry business, find your tips. So.

• 5:16Laci Mosley?

  And everything on this podcast is alleged, okay? These are not confessions, okay? Like, a lot of this is made up, it's for entertainment. So, I don't know what I either got going on, okay? But I love this for you. Diner is a perfect place because it's such high traffic and people are in and out. People aren't really like checking like that. I also love that you said like there, in Nebraska, all y'all had to do was drugs or crime. So when like the dare lion came to your school and was like, y'all don't do drugs. She was like, okay, bet. I will not choose drugs. I will choose crime, okay? I will make that lion nigga happy, okay? He's somewhere around for you right now.

• 5:50Speaker 05

  Excited, excited to do so, excited. And you know what the funny thing was too, is my boss caught me doing the skimming. Like, I almost got fired. And here's the other thing. The only reason why she couldn't fire me was because I caught her doing meth in the morning before her shift.

• 6:07Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Lord, not the mayes. Not the mayes. Oh, no, goddamn.

• 6:17Speaker 05

  Yo, I'm telling you, Nebraska is a place where people's like livelihoods and souls could really truly go to die. Especially working out a diner job downtown in the, like, a whole dunce town. So, we both had some dirt over each other and she just, we had to maintain a, a working relationship.

• 6:30Laci Mosley?

  I love a mutual scammer agreement. It was like, well, you know, well, actually, it was like she was the one who, when the dare lion say, y'all don't do meth, she said, look, I won't do crime, but I will do meth.

• 6:41Speaker 05

  Exactly. We're both sides, both sides of the scales, had to be represented. But I want to tell your listeners that I have since stopped scamming. Like, I work at HBO now, I'm okay. I don't need to do that.

• 6:53Laci Mosley?

  Right. This is a, the JC come up. You know, you can rap about it, what they gonna say, but like, no. We have job jobs, okay? You were the H, the B, and the O, working with the queens and the kings, and the non-binary royalty. And we love this for you, okay? Um, let's get into our first segment here. What is hot in fraud? Man, Aida, you already got me because you're talking spicy. I'm ready.

• 7:17Speaker 05

  Girl, you about to talk your shit. This is the rated R podcast. This is the one that you listen to after hours. This is not for the, the light of heart.

• 7:24Laci Mosley?

  Right. Even though people listen to this first thing in the morning, uh, we had a podcast, uh, we're recording right now on a Tuesday. So that's when we dropped. It came in a little late and the girls were all in my DMs and every, and Emma tweets and everywhere like, hey, girl, um, where are our things?

• 7:37Speaker 05

  Not, not, okay. Not scam goddess for breakfast, bitch. You need to reassess. You need to do some reassess.

• 7:42Laci Mosley?

  You're starting your day with me, with robbery. The best part of waking up is scams in your cup.

• 7:52Speaker 05

  Oh my God. Folgers, hire her.

• 7:54Laci Mosley?

  I'm not against it. Somebody told me, they were like, oh, you know, my 11 year old son loves your podcast. I said, now you guys.

• 8:00Speaker 05

  Get your son, baby girl.

• 8:02Laci Mosley?

  Don't get him. Bring him over here. He's my son now.

• 8:06Speaker 05

  Okay. He gonna be doing a bid before 16.

• 8:09Laci Mosley?

  Not if he listen good. Not if he listen good. He not gonna get caught. Okay?

• 8:14Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna take care of that baby. If these, if these are his interests, you have to nurture your children's interests.

• 8:18Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's about cultivating them at a young age.

• 8:20Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. So our first segment here was hot and fraud. This is where we warn listeners about popping scams on the streets. Or more often than not, you guys know, if you listen to the show, I'll read one of your listener letters. And as always, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, just make sure the scam is retired like Aida did. Don't fuck up your bag. Okay? Uh, that's [email protected]. And our listener letter, okay, Aida, I need a name. Like a fake name. We don't care of gender. No matter.

• 8:49Speaker 05

  Jebadeseus.

• 8:52Laci Mosley?

  I'm leaving. Where are my things? This is where I exit.

• 8:56Speaker 05

  Jebadeseus Miles.

• 8:58Laci Mosley?

  Jebadeseus Miles. Jebadeseus definitely does crime. Okay?

• 9:03Laci Mosley?

  But he like also goes to church every Sunday.

• 9:05Speaker 05

  Of course, and he played drums at the church, so you know, he got like a good foundation, a good rhythm for his life.

• 9:10Laci Mosley?

  He does. He paid his tithes on the, on the scams, you know, so the Lord will keep blessing him.

• 9:16Speaker 05

  Exactly. That's how you balance it out, for sure.

• 9:18Laci Mosley?

  So, Javadecia says, "When I was in college and broke," in all caps, yes, "be, ah, the things I could do with twenty dollars when I was in college." And now I'm like, what happened to me? Cause now I be spending wild money on like dinner and shit. And I'm like, what happened to me? Cause I used to make twenty dollars work.

• 9:34Speaker 05

  They stretch, stretch like Simone Biles. How come when you said that, I instantly went to, "What's my name? Drake?" And like, "The things that I could do with twenty dollars, girl."

• 9:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, nah, nah, yes. We love some Drake. Drake is a scammer all on his own.

• 9:52Speaker 05

  He's practically a Persian man. So, yeah, he is a scammer for sure.

• 9:56Laci Mosley?

  It was so funny, cause when Drake had his baby, all the black community was surprised that the baby looked Caucasian. And I was like, y'all know Drake is, his mama is white.

• 10:05Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 10:06Laci Mosley?

  And he had a baby with a white woman. Like, y'all thought it was gonna come out with a, with a tennis ball haircut and a fade, and you know what?

• 10:14Speaker 05

  Drake is white until proven otherwise. I don't give a fuck what y'all say. I had never seen his daddy. Oh wait, yes I have, bitch.

• 10:23Laci Mosley?

  That, his dad is very, I've been to the club and like next to me was Drake's dad. And I say, "I need to get my life together because why am I over here with Drake daddy?"

• 10:33Speaker 05

  It's a law, I think it's a law of nature. Like, maybe you haven't seen Drake's daddy, but Drake's daddy has seen you. That's like Newton's fourth law of physics. That's just how it's.

• 10:42Laci Mosley?

  Cause he's out here. Okay, when I tell you that man is out here. So, uh, this is, "When I was college and broke, I ran a scam that at the time seemed totally innocent. Concert venues," right, of course it was innocent, mhm. "Concert venues in my college town would give paying customers paper wristbands instead of tickets for the majority of the concerts that they had. After the shows, me and my friends would hang out and ask people for their wristbands when they came out. Over time, we had a collection of every color and pattern imaginable for the wristbands. We would then use these wristbands to attend concerts for free and bring our friends along, and it worked like a charm. Over time, I got cocky and finally got caught at a big music festival in the mountains."

• 11:19Speaker 05

  Not the mountains, bitch. Not the alpines, you know, in crime.

• 11:24Laci Mosley?

  All the alpines, you doing crimes? You doing crime of elevations is like, can't even really breathe good up there.

• 11:31Speaker 05

  You over there struggling in multiple ways.

• 11:34Laci Mosley?

  But I love the audacity. I love that you were like, oh, this is working here. Okay, let's take this shit to the mountains, okay?

• 11:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 11:39Laci Mosley?

  We're going to Ibiza. We're going to.

• 11:42Speaker 05

  This bitch is an all-terrain scammer. That's crazy.

• 11:44Laci Mosley?

  And we love that for her. We do, okay? I want every kind of trend. So, so basically, she got cocky, big music festival in the mountains. My friend, who took this scam to a new level, was actually making fake wristbands for this three-day festival, and they were impressive. I joined and carefully copied the wristband details, even purchased a gift bag of the same color and texture to cut the wristband out of for the glossy look. The final detail was gluing the little back snap on the back. At a quick glance, it would pass. Later that night, security was cracking down at the show, and at closer inspection, I was caught. I cried and claimed I bought the band for a thousand dollars from a hippie in the park. I went on to give a detailed description that would literally incriminate 90% of the male hippies at the show.

• 12:31Speaker 05

  I love this woman. She is actually in the streets doing the work.

• 12:34Laci Mosley?

  Doing the Lord's work.

• 12:35Speaker 05

  Truly.

• 12:36Laci Mosley?

  Okay? Scam daddy, scam sky daddy.

• 12:40Laci Mosley?

  We praise him. So, basically, she said, "I bought it for a hundred dollars from a white guy with dreads, a dog, and a Grateful Dead t-shirt."

• 12:52Speaker 05

  Where was she at? Burning Man? Where was she at?

• 12:54Laci Mosley?

  Wait.

• 12:54Speaker 05

  I'm trying to figure out.

• 12:55Laci Mosley?

  I thought Burning Man didn't got no wristbands, right? Because they're supposed to be all hippie-ish, right?

• 12:59Speaker 05

  Exactly, yeah. Oh, my God. You just, I feel like maybe Red Rocks, they have a festival. Why am I trying to figure out the location? That's not even important. Go ahead.

• 13:07Laci Mosley?

  Either you're trying to go?

• 13:09Speaker 05

  I'm trying to find this man.

• 13:12Laci Mosley?

  So, the police brought the story, or maybe I got the cute girl pass, and I was let go with a warning. I was so spooked that when I returned home, I gifted my coveted wristband collection, 50-plus wristbands, to an underclassman friend and put my scamming days behind me. Oh, well, it was still working local. You could still do it for locals.

• 13:29Speaker 05

  Also, what a nice way for Jebedesius to slip in that she's fine by being like, I got the cute girl pass. I'm like, yeah, okay, bitch. Yes, you did. You better put that in the last paragraph for this letter.

• 13:41Laci Mosley?

  Right. She was like, also, I'm very sissy.

• 13:44Speaker 05

  And I think that helped me ultimately.

• 13:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, just being sissy. So you know, I'm just glad that God had blessed me with a sissy face and body. So I, I love this too because the whole wristband thing, I actually did this once, uh, to Beyonce.

• 14:00Speaker 05

  Girl, what? What? How?

• 14:03Laci Mosley?

  So it was All-Star Weekend and I was at the Forty Forty Club in New York. That's the one that Jay-Z owned at the time. I don't know what they doing now. They always selling shit. But, um, we went in and it was All-Star, you know, All-Star Weekend is crazy because it's like where the girls go to get chose. They buy one-way flights and then they do GoFundMes like, please help All-Star Hoochie make it back home to her family.

• 14:26Speaker 05

  I didn't know it was that deep and I want to partake, like.

• 14:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it's, it's a thing because it's like, that's the moment for all the cute, uh, girls across the country to interact with a baller that they were probably never meet because they don't know, you know, where the ball is at. But they know that they're at NBA All-Star Weekend, all types of ballers. So they're like, we gotta go, you know, gotta make sure our BBL is fresh and done and.

• 14:51Speaker 05

  We can take, we can take the faja off, bitch. I can dance. I can gyrate. Yes.

• 14:56Laci Mosley?

  It's a big time for wigs because everybody needs the lace laid and you know, it's a, it's a beautiful time for the, uh, club ratchet industry. So we went.

• 15:06Speaker 05

  I know Boohoo gets so much money that weekend. Boohoo just eating.

• 15:12Laci Mosley?

  National holiday. ASOS and then back when American Apparel was happening.

• 15:21Speaker 05

  Oh, bitch. Was running up a check.

• 15:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, everybody got high-waisted shorts and, and, and thin little paper crop tops and they're going to do the work.

• 15:29Speaker 05

  She is, for real.

• 15:32Laci Mosley?

  Steve Madden was also getting a coin and you know Jessica Simpson was too because she makes those good shoes that are nice and high. You could run from the cops in them. So.

• 15:39Speaker 05

  Bitch, I still got Jessica Simpson's suitcase somewhere in my closet. She was really doing the Lord's work again.

• 15:45Laci Mosley?

  When she hung up singing, I was like, Jessica, this is your true calling. It's the footwear. You know what I mean?

• 15:50Speaker 05

  She did say, boots were made for walking, bitch, wear the boots.

• 15:53Laci Mosley?

  Right, make the boots, so that we can walk in them. And then she was like, here they go, here they go, you can walk in all of these and all these colors. So, we go, and we had went to a football game or some shit earlier, I don't even know what. But, um, we have wristbands, and so when we got to forty forty, we noticed that the VIP area, which is up these stairs, if you've ever been, there's like stairs where they're almost like stadium seats. Um, and so we go up and we realize that everyone in VIP is wearing a white wristband that has a black like forty forty emblem on it. So the wristbands that we had were colored, but if you flip them over, because they were cheap, it was just white on the other side.

• 16:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 16:27Laci Mosley?

  So we just flipped them over and then queued it on by and like, you know, didn't show our wrist too much. And then got in, and sure enough, Beyonce came, and, yes, and it was a frenzy. It was like, we were sitting there with some rapper, singer, or athlete, some, I don't even remember who they were. And I remember everyone just started running. And I was like, okay, I'm black, you know, if everybody's running, I'm running too. And I'm gonna ask what's going on when I get there.

• 16:57Laci Mosley?

  I'm just gonna run and, you know.

• 16:59Speaker 05

  See what happens.

• 17:00Laci Mosley?

  Right, so I ran with everybody and my girlfriends, we all ran. And it was funny because one of my girlfriends took off running and didn't even say shit. She just was running, and I was like, bitch, where, alright, we running? And so we get over there and it's Beyonce.

• 17:14Speaker 05

  They're running to something, not from something, okay.

• 17:17Laci Mosley?

  And I didn't know, I didn't know if we were running to or from, but I was gonna run, because that's the culture. That's the black culture.

• 17:23Speaker 05

  That's, that's the nigga in you.

• 17:25Laci Mosley?

  Right, I was like, niggas are running, me too, Jackie Joyner-Kersee, Say Less, Usain Bolt, let's go. So, I get over there and it's Beyonce, and she was so nice, and people were like, oh, can we take pictures? Like, you know, I'm not taking pictures right now, and I was like, that's fine, queen, I just wanna breathe the air. Ooh, tastes good.

• 17:42Speaker 05

  And had she just performed?

• 17:44Laci Mosley?

  No, I think she was walking in through the, cause there's a further VIP in the back. So you can go in the back and there's pool tables and private rooms and stuff. And we were doing that, but at this point, we were sitting in the front of VIP. And she walked through the front, which I think she does when she wants to get like the press going for the club. So it's like, oh, today I'll walk in the front. So the girls will put forty forty on page six.

• 18:04Speaker 05

  Oh, I'll fucking let y'all see me. I will let y'all just have the opportunity and a privilege to just see my legs. You know, if I close my eyes, I can see Beyonce's figure and her thighs so perfectly. And that's like, that caused me fear. Cause I can't even do that on my own body. I'm like, bitch, what do I look like? But with Beyonce, I know exactly what her body looked like and to the year, to the year.

• 18:23Laci Mosley?

  Mm hmm. I remember Beyonce's had such a power over me that when girl, like that who run the world girl song came out. The first time I listened to it, I was like, mm, Beyonce, I love everything you do, but I don't really like, this is kind of.

• 18:36Speaker 05

  Girl, me too. You're reminding me how much I hated that song at first listen.

• 18:41Laci Mosley?

  This, she scammed me by just playing it over and over and doing the music, you know, that was popping. And then I was like, who run the world girls? I was like, I don't even like this song. Beyonce, how dare you? She was like, you will like everything I make. And shut your ass up and save up for my concerts.

• 18:58Speaker 05

  Oh, my God. All seven hundred dollars I had to spend that one year for me and a friend to just go sit in the nosebleeds. Just to watch her like, God, I can't wait for the world to open again. So I can blow a rack.

• 19:09Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 19:10Speaker 05

  I'm seeing Beyonce.

• 19:11Laci Mosley?

  To just breathe her air. I'm gonna get good, good seats. Now I want to be up there with the white people who got them for free. Cause they rich and they don't know what's going on. I want to be like, I want some sweat to hit me, you know? I want her to hit me with her weeds.

• 19:22Speaker 05

  I want to be sitting next to the old white woman who has her legs crossed, just staring at her Beyonce, like with her jaw dropped. Like looking at her husband, like, baby, can we go home? Like that's, that's, that's the row I want to be in.

• 19:34Laci Mosley?

  Right. I want to be next to her. And she's like, Ted, like, come on. And he's like, babe, I've got to talk to some people after this, you know? This is work.

• 19:44Laci Mosley?

  I wanna be right there next to them screaming my face off. Cause oh my god, it's just, yeah, but so we scammed and it actually worked and I was very proud of us that evening. So this wristband should be working and honestly, I still have colored wristbands in my house. Cause every now and then, you know, it might be a crazy weekend and I might have to slap one on and scam.

• 20:03Speaker 05

  You know what? That is like, you know how some women keep their fancy gloss in the purse? Gotta have the wallet, the ID, the mask now, the keys. The new thing is gotta be a different colored wristband, just in case you're trying to get into a bar, you don't, you don't wanna pay no cover fee. And first of all, you a fine woman and should never have to pay no cover fee. But if, you know, push comes to shove, push comes to shove, you got every color, you got Roy G. Biv wristbands.

• 20:29Laci Mosley?

  I'm just looking at everybody walking by like, which one do I need to put down right now? I love this scam and nobody got hurt. It was fun. You got to go to some concerts you probably couldn't afford to go to. So, WDC is, so I think that this was, I'm proud of you. I'm, I'm good with this. I like this.

• 20:46Speaker 05

  I feel like my, I, I need to get my weight up because y'all are doing so much better than me. My wristband scams are like, "Oh, I'm eighteen, I can't get into this festival, but my homegirl is twenty-one and she is leaving the festival. So I'mma rip the wristband off of her and put it on me and that's how I get in." But beyond that, I don't have any stories that's like orchestrated, organized criminal activity, just happenstance.

• 21:11Laci Mosley?

  Right. I love it and I love the audacity. Most of the scamming is just about confidence. If you walk into a place and act like you belong there, people won't question it. But if you start looking nervous, like they're going to be looking at you. You know what I mean?

• 21:23Speaker 05

  Shit bitch, I don't even know why you booked me for this. I just be smiling and people are like, oh, she is a figure. She's a public figure. Like, she keeps saying she's a public figure, so we have to put her on things?

• 21:33Laci Mosley?

  No, you are a public figure and I was thirsty. I was Sahara desert tumbleweed thirsty for your ass. I was like,

• 21:42Laci Mosley?

  "Let me plot."

• 21:43Speaker 05

  I just listened to the, the podcast that you had with Brandon, who is my good friend, Brandon Cal Goodman, because we both worked on Big Mouth. And I was like, I would never compare to that, that funny, funny man.

• 21:53Laci Mosley?

  Oh my god.

• 21:54Speaker 05

  He is so amazing.

• 21:56Laci Mosley?

  King.

• 21:56Speaker 05

  So, a dream.

• 21:58Laci Mosley?

  I was like, we're best friends now, but like, no, for real, like, we probably friends, like, I'mma text you. Okay, love you.

• 22:05Laci Mosley?

  Brandon is fine.

• 22:07Speaker 05

  Too fine.

• 22:09Laci Mosley?

  He's so funny. And you know what's funny? When I posted about him, people were like, damn, you really just be having some eye candy on this show? I'm like, well, wait till I see Aida. Like, I'm gonna keep the hits coming. Baddies all around, okay? Yes, come on, cheekbones, work you. 24 hours a day.

• 22:22Speaker 05

  They are. They be cheekboning. They really do.

• 22:24Laci Mosley?

  They do. But anyway, we go.

• 22:28Laci Mosley?

  I know y'all listening, like, some people love the tangents. Most people do, but some people like, bitch, if you don't get to the story, that's the scam, y'all. I told you, it's a comedy where I just make friends with people I want to make friends with.

• 22:39Laci Mosley?

  And then I do some scams on the side for y'all, because whatever.

• 22:42Speaker 05

  A scam, it's a scam. A scam witch.

• 22:45Laci Mosley?

  Bitch!

• 22:46Speaker 05

  A scam witch.

• 22:48Laci Mosley?

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• 24:56Laci Mosley?

  Con and we are back and it's time for my favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks. This is where I'm going to regale Aida with a famous con or caper and we're just going to get her opinions all throughout. You know, obviously keep doing what we've been doing. It's just whatever we want.

• 25:14Laci Mosley?

  So guys, today we're talking about something that if you're paying attention to Twitter or SNL or the zeitgeist right now, it's something that's really popping and that's NFTs. And so if you don't know what an NFT is, it's called a non-fungible token. Okay.

• 25:32Speaker 05

  What a stupid phrase. What a dumb fucking phrase. I just want, the technology's interesting. It's cool, but y'all need to, a brand, it's a branding issue at this point.

• 25:39Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 25:40Speaker 05

  Figure it out.

• 25:40Laci Mosley?

  Y'all, you know, tech guys are always trying to make stuff with multiple letters and you know, they didn't say million. They just be saying MM for million. Like they just be trying to do too much. It's a whole culture. And you know what it is? They really just want to be rappers and so they're like, how many? All the rappers now coming out, they names are like Lil XYZ, 35, 2K.

• 26:02Speaker 05

  Nigga have wifi password as names.

• 26:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 26:05Speaker 05

  And trying to push them off.

• 26:07Laci Mosley?

  These old login ass names.

• 26:09Speaker 05

  Yes, I'm about to tell you about the illest con. I'm in the valley. I'm talking silicon. Didn't I see?

• 26:16Laci Mosley?

  Bars, bars.

• 26:17Speaker 05

  Shut the fuck up.

• 26:18Laci Mosley?

  God damn bars. Yes.

• 26:20Speaker 05

  He was teaching them. He was teaching them.

• 26:21Laci Mosley?

  Hold on, I gotta take this headphone out. It's smoking.

• 26:26Speaker 05

  There's fire coming out of Lacey's ears. It's just.

• 26:29Laci Mosley?

  Fire.

• 26:29Speaker 05

  It's bad. It's literal smoke.

• 26:31Laci Mosley?

  Well, yeah, it's that. It's either the names with all the letters or the names that are whole sentences. Like, how is your rap name, Young Boy Never Broke Again? That's a sentence.

• 26:40Speaker 05

  Nigga, and also I can't wait till the day where he loses it all and I'm gonna be like, huh? Never broke a what? Tell me.

• 26:46Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 26:47Speaker 05

  Tell me.

• 26:48Laci Mosley?

  Literally like, I'mma start rapping. My name gonna be, I love to go outside and hike.

• 26:54Laci Mosley?

  But I'm a rapper, but you need to say my whole name.

• 26:57Speaker 05

  Since we doing anything, okay?

• 26:59Laci Mosley?

  Anything, you know? Why not? I'm gonna be that. So, an NFT artist used Banksy's popularity to make a million dollars in a sale. So, if you guys don't know who Banksy is, Banksy is an England-based, street artist, political activist, and director. He's been putting up graffiti all over the world since the 90s, usually without permission.

• 27:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:22Laci Mosley?

  Though many artists use censuring graffiti, Banksy has drawn international attention for his art. One of his paintings translated into a 1.4 million dollar sale. In 2008, Banksy created Pest Control, an organization set up to sell and authenticate all of his work. Nobody seems to know Banksy's real identity, which in the year of our Lord, 2021, for nobody, that means your circle's tight, ain't nobody snitching on you, and like, everybody's signing them NDAs and they know what they mean.

• 27:50Speaker 05

  I, I feel like, I feel like Banksy hasn't had any slip-ups. You're right. We really don't know nothing about that man.

• 27:56Laci Mosley?

  We've never caught Banksy slipping. What a scammer. Oh, hmm, Banksy, come do the pod. Like, I'll let you.

• 28:02Speaker 05

  Oh, my God, imagine.

• 28:03Laci Mosley?

  You don't gotta turn the camera on, baby.

• 28:05Speaker 05

  Shit, bitch. Maybe it's me the whole time.

• 28:07Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 28:07Speaker 05

  Here to talk about the scams I'm about. Banksy, shut the fuck up.

• 28:12Laci Mosley?

  That would be very funny if Banksy the whole time was hiding.

• 28:15Speaker 05

  The whole time.

• 28:16Laci Mosley?

  Also, not shocking.

• 28:17Speaker 05

  Guess what? Pop up, guess who, bitch?

• 28:21Laci Mosley?

  Pop up. Put your mask on and pop out. So, this is Banksy, right? In 2008, Banksy created the Pest Control thing. That's gonna come in handy, so remember Pest Control is his business. According to the official website, it says, "We're the sole contact for the artist. If you're talking to Banksy through any other channel, you're not." So, basically, they were like, if anybody, we're that girl, and we're the only girl. Dot com.

• 28:45Speaker 05

  I said what I said.

• 28:46Laci Mosley?

  I said what I said, I meant what I meant. So. And another, we're doing a little education up top, guys. So also, what are NFTs? Let's do that, so that when we get into this, we can just have a good time. So we know who Banksy is. Now let's talk about what NFTs are. So non-fungible tokens are digital objects that resemble Pokemon and baseball cards. But instead of Pokemon and athlete images, NFT cards contain gifs, videos, songs, and even tweets. Each NFT is unique, thanks to an attached serial number stored in a network of computers. The underlying technology is called a blockchain, and it's the same that operates cryptocurrencies. I love that I go into my news lady voice when I start reading like information, like cryptocurrencies.

• 29:28Speaker 05

  Okay, Candace. Okay, Candace Owens.

• 29:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, don't do that to me. Oh my god, my edges are disappearing.

• 29:36Speaker 05

  My hair is fried, falling off.

• 29:38Laci Mosley?

  Take it back, my hair is so dry.

• 29:41Speaker 05

  I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Viola Davis, you are Cecily Tyson. You are moisturized Tracey Ellis Ross, baby girl, keep going.

• 29:49Laci Mosley?

  Thank you, queen, because for a second there, whoo, I started to dry up like a raisin in the sun.

• 29:55Speaker 05

  I also think a really interesting thing about NFTs, have you heard about Azelia Banks?

• 30:00Laci Mosley?

  You know I know about her problematic chicken killing ass.

• 30:02Speaker 05

  Bitch, once she's done boiling cats, she has put in work in, okay? Because she, I was dead ass, she stopped digging up her cat for one moment to make a sex tape with her boyfriend, at the time Ryder Rips. And he turned around and sold that as an NFT for seventeen thousand dollars on the initial sale.

• 30:23Laci Mosley?

  And on the initial sale, what was the sex tape? Was it like visual? Like was it?

• 30:27Speaker 05

  Bitch, it's not a sex tape. No, there's no cheeks, no titties, no nothing, no booty, nothing.

• 30:33Laci Mosley?

  How is it a sex tape then? It's all audio?

• 30:35Speaker 05

  It's an audio sex tape, it's just the sound of moans, the sound of moaning, it's just.

• 30:40Laci Mosley?

  At least tell me you hear some macaroni and cheese.

• 30:43Speaker 05

  At least, well, I don't know what Azelia packing. I don't know if she packing all that. I will not make a sense. I don't know. I don't know. But now it's being resold for damn near, I think initially two hundred and thirty-six million dollars. Now it's up to over two hundred and sixty million dollars. And the cool thing about NFTs, which is what makes them so pivotal in artistry and how they're changing everything, is that the artist, the original artist continues to maintain profit and revenue after the resale. So that means Azelia Banks is damn near, let's say, let's guess she's splitting it with her boyfriend at the time, and let's even guess he's making ninety percent of it and she's only getting ten percent. Because you know how men love to scam women. She's still probably making like two, three million

• 31:28Speaker 05

  dollars off this.

• 31:36Laci Mosley?

  OnlyFans is shaking. Shaking and quaking in their boots. Yes!

• 31:42Speaker 05

  We're happy for her. We really are.

• 31:44Laci Mosley?

  We are. We're proud. Listen, Azelia, you be, I wish you would just stop talking and just make music, because your music is so good. And every time you open your mouth, you offending everybody and their cousin and their mama and their uncle and their granddaddy. And you've been dead for twenty years. Like, can you, can you just chill so we can enjoy you? Like, Lord Jesus. But, oh, but you know what? I'm still happy that she's getting in on a fantastic scam on the ground floor. Guys, get your NFTs popping. Get your NFTs popping.

• 32:10Speaker 05

  DM me. DM me if you want to make an audio sex tape. Could be easy. We could find a couple out in like a night.

• 32:15Laci Mosley?

  Right. I'll be on there like Love Rants, like, ooh, ah, ooh, ah, ooh, ah. That's a deep cut if y'all know what I'm talking about. But it's beat the pussy up by Love Rants if you don't know. Now you know. So the most common cryptocurrency used with NFTs is either Ether or ETH, Ethereum, right? So at the time of this recording, one ETH is worth two thousand one hundred fifty-nine dollars. That's the number at the time of this research. Okay, so it fluctuates, you know, things like in this market go up and down. So it could be worth more by the time that you guys hear this, though, because it's been real popping in the zeitgeist. All right, so now we out of this. Oh, Aida, I'm so glad you're here, because you know more about NFTs than I do.

• 32:58Speaker 05

  I, you know, but it's, it's, it's like that guilt, it's the, the guilt of me that's like, oh, I'm an artist, I'm a creator and I don't give a fuck about this type of shit. But I know that I'm gonna fall behind if I don't. And these white niggas is gonna get all the money in it and then the black women are gonna be so confused. So it's kind of been my mission to try to learn about it. And educate people so that we can get our foot in the fucking door.

• 33:18Laci Mosley?

  Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And all y'all can get your foot in the door too. Look at this. I should be charging y'all. We, we got, y'all, bless y'all. And I, I Googled it when I saw it trending on Twitter and so I learned like the basics, but as far as how I could become a part of it, I'm very interested now, you know, in this episode as well to figure it out. Cause I want some, I want some scamming.

• 33:41Speaker 05

  Girl, yes, we gonna link up, we gonna link up and like brainstorm. We could galaxy brain some shit for you.

• 33:46Laci Mosley?

  We got it.

• 33:47Speaker 05

  Scamming, scamming tips.

• 33:49Laci Mosley?

  Amen.

• 33:49Speaker 05

  Scamming stories.

• 33:51Laci Mosley?

  Amen. Something, I'll do that. Cause like what NFTs do remind me of is like, do you remember when Wu-Tang Clan released that album, but they only released one? And Martin Scorsese was actually the person who bought it. So they made an album and they decided to just release one, like one version, like one CD or whatever. And they sold it to the hottest, like auctioned it to the highest bidder. Um, and Martin Scorsese bought that shit. The criminal who was doing all that upcharging for, you know, essential drugs and stuff.

• 34:19Speaker 05

  Yeah. I love that you just straight up call him a criminal and not like a pharmaceutical man. He is just a criminal. Okay. Yes. I'm, I'm, I'm finding out about this now. Holy shit. Seven point thirty-six million? Sorry. This is a lot. Go ahead. Carry on.

• 34:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Right. For the album. So I think we have the Wu-Tang Clan to thank for NFTs. Okay. Black history moment. The more you know.

• 34:43Speaker 05

  You're right. It's all trickle down, whatever. Some shit I learned in economics I don't remember.

• 34:48Laci Mosley?

  But I'm gonna thank the RZA, the JZA and Ghostface Killer. And you know, there's a lot of them niggas.

• 34:54Speaker 05

  Honorable mention to the SZA who would just be looking fine. She's not even involved. She'd just be looking fine.

• 34:59Laci Mosley?

  She do be looking fine and I be loving her music. Like, oh, I love me some SZA. Yes. I'll never know what she talking about. Like when I listen to the song, I could never repeat.

• 35:09Speaker 05

  She's, she sing like a banjo. That girl sing like a whole banjo.

• 35:12Laci Mosley?

  She does. She go. I be on that lucky, granny, granny, on the unlucky, shiny, shiny, shiny.

• 35:19Speaker 05

  Oh, stop it. You coming for her for real? You don't, you might be better to her. You better stop.

• 35:25Laci Mosley?

  Oh, say, oh, you gasoline. Ooh, all this gasoline, baby. I'm at Exxon Mobil right now. Come on, I ain't even making any

• 35:30Speaker 05

  She the, she the BP spill. She might need some Dawn soap to clean her up.

• 35:35Laci Mosley?

  Which, you know what I've always wondered?

• 35:37Speaker 05

  What's that?

• 35:37Laci Mosley?

  With them ducks, are they putting oil on the ducks so they can do the commercial where they wipe it off with the Dawn?

• 35:42Speaker 05

  I ain't even thought about that. I ain't even thought about that because they're not going out in nature and then doing photo shoots.

• 35:47Laci Mosley?

  Some oil ducks?

• 35:49Speaker 05

  Yo, I really hope it's something else. Like, they're putting, they're putting like a makeup on them. Damn, then they testing our animals. It's all just a problem all the way down.

• 35:59Laci Mosley?

  Right. I was always wondering. I was like, how y'all conveniently at every oil spill, Dawn?

• 36:05Speaker 05

  But now, now I'm imagining like a casting call with all these oily ducks just waddling in like, I'm that bitch. I got this premium oil all over this nice ass body. The fuck? You finna cast me, hoe?

• 36:15Laci Mosley?

  Right. And then all the ducks walk in and then they find, they get discouraged when they see the Affleck duck come in like, Affleck, now bitch, I got it in the bag. It's mine.

• 36:24Speaker 05

  Affleck is here.

• 36:25Laci Mosley?

  Affleck is. Leave. All of you can go because Affleck's booking the oil duck, okay?

• 36:31Speaker 05

  That's like when I get somewhere and like Nicole Byers at the audition. I'm like, let me just say my happy ass, huh? I ain't got no business here.

• 36:38Laci Mosley?

  Bruh, it's even worse now with self tapes as actors because sometimes I get self tapes. Like, I had a self tape for Mulaney's Black Bottom and I'll say, y'all, why y'all making me do this work? Y'all noticed this.

• 36:49Speaker 05

  For the girlfriend.

• 36:49Laci Mosley?

  Yes. I was like, y'all know this is already offered to somebody who's famous and not from Taylor Page. And I say, yeah, duh.

• 36:57Laci Mosley?

  Why y'all got over here wasting my time?

• 37:00Speaker 05

  Girl, what's, what's? Or like, I'm just happy sometimes I'm not like fully light skinned because Zazie Beach just be having everything. So why the fuck would I try? Why would I try? Why would I try?

• 37:11Laci Mosley?

  Minor, Asher, Naomi King, Taylor Page.

• 37:14Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 37:15Laci Mosley?

  Like, and they're all baddies. So I'm like, I, if y'all will send it my way, even just to play with a bitch, I'm like really flattered, but also.

• 37:23Speaker 05

  I'm glad you're thinking of me.

• 37:24Laci Mosley?

  I don't wanna work when I know I'm not gonna get the job, so.

• 37:30Speaker 05

  Make me learn these fucking lines.

• 37:31Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 37:32Speaker 05

  Fuck you.

• 37:33Laci Mosley?

  That's a whole scam. I'll talk about that later. So how it started? Y'all remember all the information I told you? I hope so.

• 37:39Speaker 05

  NFTs, we got NFTs, we know Banksy now.

• 37:42Laci Mosley?

  Mm.

• 37:42Speaker 05

  We're kinda put on game.

• 37:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we all game. So on February 14th, 2021, which is very recent, NFT surfers noticed a new profile called Pest Supply. So remember, Banksy's business is called Pest Control, okay? Okay, similar, similar, maybe Great Value, okay? Maybe Kirkland's, alright? So, maybe Equate for throw it back?

• 38:12Speaker 05

  You better stop knowing every single knockoff brand.

• 38:17Laci Mosley?

  I'm just saying, okay?

• 38:18Speaker 05

  You better stop showing that ass.

• 38:21Laci Mosley?

  I love a, I love a knockoff brand. They make me laugh. Okay, so. So, um, they noticed that Pest Supply surface, right? The artist puts stenciled graffiti art for sale in two online galleries, uh, Rarible and OpenSea. People thought, oh, look, Pest is in Pest Control, dark humor and graffiti. We just found Banksy. So people are thinking like, one, Banksy is shrouded in mystery. Why did I say it like that? In Mysteri, he's shrouded in Mysteri. And when people don't know who he is, so they're thinking like, oh, he's coming up low on the NFT thing, like, we just got the T, right? So Pest Supply didn't mention any affiliation with Banksy in their bio.

• 39:05Laci Mosley?

  And none of the NFTs were digitized versions of original Banksy street art. So they kept it far enough away. Yet people insisted on believing that Pest Supply was Banksy. It wouldn't be the first time that Banksy showed up undercover, cuz that's his whole thing. People simply thought that Banksy used the NFT platforms to pull off another one of his tricks. From there, things escalated and the money started to roll. So Banksy set himself up to be scammed. You're the perfect person to scam. We ain't never seen your face. We ain't never heard your voice. Like, we should all be Banksy. I'm Banksy. I'm Banksy.

• 39:39Speaker 05

  Bitch, we all, at this point, we could all be, you know what I'm immediately thinking? Like, are there laws against impersonating somebody, even if they have maintained anonymity? Like, can he sue?

• 39:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 39:51Speaker 05

  Yes, bitch. Yes.

• 39:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you can't, you can't impersonate people. That's, that's a crime.

• 39:56Speaker 05

  But is this person, like, saying, "I'm Banksy, da-da-da, hello, look at me," or are they doing a savvy, like, maneuvering?

• 40:03Laci Mosley?

  So far, all we have is vibes. This person was giving vibes, and they weren't necessarily being like, "Hey, girls, it's me, Banksy." Your favorite graffiti king.

• 40:13Speaker 05

  Are you gonna spend millions off a hunch? Y'all are crazy. Y'all have too much money.

• 40:18Laci Mosley?

  Y'all got too much money. This is why capitalism is bad. Like, bruh, you got enough money to buy an online web thingy for a million dollars that you don't need, that literally cannot feed you, house you, or clothe you. Like...

• 40:32Speaker 05

  Don't even get me started. As much as I, like, care about the NFTs and think we should all know about them, I'm still not on board with them conceptually. What, what do you own? You just own the idea of a thing, and it's in pixels, and it's online, and that's cool, but it's just the same thing as art. It's like, we're placing value on it, and that's cool. And some nigga decided to place however much on this fake Banksy. What happened next?

• 40:55Laci Mosley?

  I love it. Oh, my God. Be my friend. Oh, I love this podcast. Um, so someone paid thirty-five ETHs, the Ethereum, or sixty-eight thousand dollars USD on one piece called "NFT morons." Oh, so it's making fun of it. So we have a picture up right here.

• 41:13Speaker 05

  Oh, how postmodern, how satirical, how meta. I fucking hate white people online, bro. It's so annoying.

• 41:22Laci Mosley?

  I can't believe you morons actually buy this shit. And people are like, groundbreaking, I'll pay money, I'll pay sixty eight thousand dollars for it. Yes, I could have bought a home or donated it to charity or helped my community, but I'll buy this thing. Uh, I love an artist that can ridicule you or like play you, but you still love them. And like Rihanna doesn't ridicule people, but she most certainly plays us. She's like, yeah, yeah, the album's coming. The album gonna be out soon.

• 41:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, so hers, hers is the long con. This is just like in your face one time, but the first time, like Rihanna is just, we're dangling it by her.

• 41:59Laci Mosley?

  The carrot is just hanging and we're like, yes, I'm like, yes, Rihanna, I will listen to these panties from Savage. Yes, Rihanna, I will hold this lip gloss up to my ear and pretend that it's music because I love you.

• 42:13Laci Mosley?

  But also I do have to just say this, shout out to Rihanna because this is something small that I don't think people talk about enough. But if you open her lip gloss tubes, the stick is bigger than most lip gloss tube sticks. And I said, oh honey, this is for lips. Cause when I tell you. Yeah, cause I have. Mm-hmm. And when I have to put on the lip gloss with everybody else's lip gloss applicator, chaps like painting the house. I'm like, alright, I gotta, alright, I made halfway through one lip.

• 42:43Speaker 05

  The regular lip, lip glosses have like the like eyeliner brush. Like that's how fucking small it is for some reason.

• 42:51Laci Mosley?

  I got time for all this. I want one swipe, two swipe. And Rihanna did that for me. So thank you Rihanna for the, for the big lipped community. We appreciate it. But as the craziness continued to spread, people grew skeptical. A crypto artist named Max Osiris decided to contact Banksy spokesperson at Pest Control Office and asked if Pest Supply is Banksy affiliated. The spokesperson responded, no, there isn't any affiliation with any shape or form. Now remember how Pest Supply shared its work on two platforms, right? Rarible and OpenSea. Soon after the email exchange spread on Twitter, OpenSea locked Pest Supply's profile. As for Rarible, where most of the action was, they sent Pest Supply a note.

• 43:33Laci Mosley?

  I love Rarible because Rarible was like, okay, we scamming, so the other site may shut y'all down. But we just gonna see y'all strongly written letter.

• 43:41Speaker 05

  That's like when you ask your mama or your daddy if you could do something and the mama says no, but you stay with the daddy and just hope.

• 43:47Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 43:48Speaker 05

  You're like, yo dad, can you make this, make this work for me?

• 43:51Laci Mosley?

  Make this work for me. So they sent an email and this is what some of the email says. It says, after some discussion, we'd be happy to verify your account, provided that at the top of your bio on Rarible, you clearly state that this is not Banksy and that your work is based on Banksy's work. So Rarible was like, look, we love a great value. We love an equate. We love a Kirkland. And we love the residual income we get off of you selling this shit. So could you just go ahead and tell the girls that you're not Banksy? And that's fine with us. Pest Supply's response was to copy paste the same note at the top of their profile. Oh.

• 44:28Speaker 05

  Oh my God, this is getting juicy, bitch.

• 44:31Laci Mosley?

  This is genius.

• 44:32Speaker 05

  It's getting juicy. Performance art, we love to see it.

• 44:37Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So can we zoom in somehow on this so I can read it? Okay. So it says Pest Supply. Then it says after, then it's just literally what they were sent. And above that, it says not here, not there, not everywhere. And then they just posted the quote that was like, could you please tell us if you were Banksy? Oh, bitch.

• 44:58Speaker 05

  Wow. What a roundabout way to still carry on with a scam. Because this still clears nothing up.

• 45:04Laci Mosley?

  And this is validating them because this is, oh my God, this drove me nuts because the media is so fucking responsible for Donald Trump being president. I know this seems like it's a wild non sequitur, but I'm gonna bring it back. The media is so responsible for him being president because they legitimized him by even comparing him to someone who had actually been in the office. And specifically, I just want to talk about how, and I thought this was genius scam. Melania Trump had a speech once that was like the identical copy, basically, of Michelle Obama's speech.

• 45:38Speaker 05

  Wait, Lacey, are you getting, are you getting at a point that's like this is deliberate? It was part of the plan?

• 45:43Laci Mosley?

  Hell, yeah.

• 45:44Speaker 05

  Are you, you got your tinfoil hat on, bitch? You trying to conspiracize?

• 45:48Laci Mosley?

  Hell yeah. I know it was deliberate. Donald Trump is a scammer, so I know this shit was deliberate. Because you don't copy a speech like that, word for word, bar for bar, to quote Soulja Boy. You know what I mean? Melania, you know.

• 46:04Laci Mosley?

  Melania, she stole my whole fucking flow. And the reason that that was so genius was because then, obviously, everyone's gonna take that piece of information and they're gonna be like, comparing Michelle Obama and Melania side by side, which happened so much. And obviously, Michelle Obama has a squeaky clean image and Melania, you know, I'm not slut shaming, so I never participated in the like, oh, look at this girl naked and now she our first lady. I'm like, look, if the first lady got her titties out, she got her titties out. I just don't want her to be a racist and a xenophobe and evil as fuck. That's what I care about. But everybody can have their titties out whenever they want and do whatever they want in their life.

• 46:41Speaker 05

  Priorities, bitch. Talk about it.

• 46:43Laci Mosley?

  But when they juxtaposed them so much, everybody was like, oh, you know, it made her look more first lady-ish. And she, now she's being compared to, you know, the bad bitch, Michelle Obama. So, this was such a genius idea to just put that on the site to be like, look, they think we're Banksy. I'm not saying yes or no, but the girls think we are, so you know.

• 47:04Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 47:05Laci Mosley?

  You be the judge.

• 47:07Speaker 05

  It reminds me kind of of like, the way we've allowed Takashi 69 to exist in this new villain role and still be a part of like, the music industry. He just gets to exist happily. And there's a world in that, bitch. Infamy works. Infamy works. Go ahead, Passaply.

• 47:22Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Infamy works. And there's so many people who know how to work Infamy. When we talked about Caroline Calloway on this podcast, because it was with Jamila Jamil, she capitalized on that shit. She got a book coming out, I'm not gonna say the name, but, and, and people already, people already pre-ordered it and were like, hey, girl, where's the book? Where's the book? So she scammy out.

• 47:40Speaker 05

  She's like, y'all know my history. Why did you think the book was gonna?

• 47:43Laci Mosley?

  The book is a vibe, okay? The book is what's in your heart, okay? Look at my Instagram posts and put together the book for yourself.

• 47:52Speaker 05

  All the captions, that's a chapter.

• 47:54Laci Mosley?

  That's a chapter. Right, y'all playing. So, I thought that was super freaking genius, right? So appropriation art seems to best describe what Pestifly identifies as. Pestifly noted in their current bio that they knew nothing about art history. A tweet about one piece that sold said, "I either just blew $750 or got the deal of the lifetime on a Banksy. We shall see." And you know what, too?

• 48:22Speaker 05

  This don't even look like a Banksy. This new one that we're looking at right now don't even look like a Banksy. For someone who has minimal understanding.

• 48:29Laci Mosley?

  It says, "You are next." Screenshot these and remind me to post them to Instagram. And y'all remind me to, to, uh, post all the fake art that we're seeing from this person because I need y'all to see it. But what's so dope about that is it's like, people are now willingly participating in a scam because they're like, either it's a scam or it's lit and I bought Banksy's art. And either way, the whole point of flexing and buying expensive artists to be like, "I can afford to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a piece of paper." And if you got scammed, that's an interesting dinner party story. So you can make that your personality.

• 49:05Speaker 05

  And exactly, like, I forget too that we give these stories more credence and then the art goes up in value. Like, it's truly an investment option for them. Like, this is stock. Like, this is a whole, this, the return on investment could be there.

• 49:18Laci Mosley?

  I worked with Joey Fatone on a random show and, that I don't think will ever come out. But he one day was leaving set and had on a Fire Fest t-shirt. And when I tell you I wanted that shit so fucking bad. He was like, "I had a friend who knew, who went and like, got me a t-shirt." And I'm like, "It's iconic because it's such a huge scam." And so now that t-shirt is valuable, just the Fire Fest t-shirt.

• 49:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  I'm really into this. I love this.

• 49:42Speaker 05

  Was it that ugly, was it that ugly fucking orange color?

• 49:46Laci Mosley?

  It was black and then the logo was white. It was cute. And it's like a whole iconic moment. I was like, "Where can I get a Fire Fest t-shirt because I fucking want one?"

• 49:55Speaker 05

  Does this, does this story end in you ripping it off Joey's body and you being escorted off the premises?

• 50:00Laci Mosley?

  I wish. I wish.

• 50:02Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 50:02Laci Mosley?

  I honestly was looking like, "My guy, help a black queen out and just take that shit off."

• 50:09Speaker 05

  Thought she was bout it, Lacey. Thought she was really bout it.

• 50:12Laci Mosley?

  I should have robbed him. You're right. That's my robbery regret. It's a robbery regret, because I should have just been like, this is a stick up.

• 50:20Laci Mosley?

  Gimme the shirt. Oh my goodness. So, all this to say, he didn't get caught. This is not getting caught. So whoever this Banksy, bootleg Banksy is, they are still out here, living and thriving.

• 50:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, my brain is just whirring. I'm like, what can I do? Can I pretend to be somebody? Can I do a Rihanna, a fake Rihanna song? You know what, bro? After this, let's record R9. Me and you, we gonna record R9, we gonna drop it as an NFT, and people gonna be like, oh my god, this Rihanna's genius. Da-da-da-da, but it's just me and you wailing over some beats.

• 50:56Laci Mosley?

  Can I even do a Rihanna impression? You need me.

• 51:02Speaker 05

  Fondue replay.

• 51:03Laci Mosley?

  Right, fondue replay, like. I'd rather be smoking weed every time. We gonna get it. I think we, I, we could probably do it.

• 51:13Speaker 05

  After this, I'm doing furniture. You can Fenty fuck on a Fenty full-time, bitch.

• 51:18Laci Mosley?

  Full-time, okay? Blaisan.

• 51:21Speaker 05

  Oh yes, bitch. Blaisan.

• 51:23Laci Mosley?

  Barbados.

• 51:24Speaker 05

  Big forehead, the fuck?

• 51:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay, Aida, you got it. I'm just gonna be in the back, like the City Girls tries doing ad-libs, like Barbados, Barbados.

• 51:33Speaker 05

  You my Carisha. You my little Carisha.

• 51:35Laci Mosley?

  Yes, listen, and that's fine, because we all know Carisha can't find the beat to save her life.

• 51:39Speaker 05

  Girl, she getting better. She improving. She had the funniest tweet the other day. She was like, "I have been rapping for three years and I'm getting better." And I was like, bitch. Please delete the tweet.

• 51:51Laci Mosley?

  No, I love it. That's what I love about Carisha, because Carisha will own it. Remember when she was featured, her and the other City Girls were featured on a remix of, oh, it's a popular song. Goddamn, I can't think of the remix. But everybody was like, damn, you shouldn't have did this. This is bad. Carisha can't find the beat. And then Carisha retweeted it and was like, everybody's saying I wasn't on beat. Oh, well. But she put a well instead of saying well. She said, oh, well.

• 52:20Speaker 05

  Bitch, I don't know about all that. All I know is, I like to be fun.

• 52:26Laci Mosley?

  That's the song. That's the song.

• 52:28Speaker 05

  Oh, that's Throw Baby.

• 52:29Laci Mosley?

  Throw Baby. And everybody was like, why y'all got Carisha on Throw Baby? You know she can't find the beat. And, and she was like, I thought I was on beat. Oh, well.

• 52:39Laci Mosley?

  I love this new wave of rappers. They just don't even be rapping. It's my favorite thing about them. They're just hot and they're cool. Live your life. Live your life. But I love the city girls so, so much because they're like so authentic to me. Like sometimes I guess they can say something problematic, but like it's just, I love them so much. Oh, yes. And we have to change our expectations. Like these are girls from Obalaka. They're from Liberty City in Florida. Authentically so. Let them live. Suburban girls who T I gave an accent to and then they started rapping. These aren't Iggy Azaleas. These are authentic city girls at City Girls. Yes, real gutter bitches. Real bitches from the gutter. From gutter, bitch. Okay, what is pussy talk? English, Spanish and French.

• 53:24Laci Mosley?

  Okay, you actually got that down. Hello? Shit, bitch.

• 53:31Laci Mosley?

  Je m'appelle C, pussy, okay? This nigga is very fluent and coochie. I love to see it. Okay, we speaks all of it. But guys, so this scam is still on the run. Now you know about NFTs? If you want to get into it, get into it. Start doing them non-fungible tokens, honey. Maybe I'll do some scam goddess like little fun things and make them NFTs and then they'll just be. You got to. We'll find some. You know, why not? Yes, for all the, for all the independently wealthies who listen to the show. Fund her. Fund her. Fund me. We need it. We need the things. Alright, guys, we're gonna take a break for some non-scam advertisements and we'll be right back.

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• 56:12Laci Mosley?

  Hey, guys, we're back. And this is the saddest part of the show, because I'm gonna have to let Aida go soon.

• 56:18Speaker 05

  No.

• 56:19Laci Mosley?

  No. Oh, no, no, no, no, for the TikTokers.

• 56:23Speaker 05

  We kind of bonded. I'm not gonna lie, we kind of bonded.

• 56:25Laci Mosley?

  We did. I'm into this, yo. And I'm into your lighting that's happening. Is that some pink lights?

• 56:32Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 56:32Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 56:33Speaker 05

  That's Phillips, Hugh, fund me, sponsor me, send me some lights. Yo, it's actually the bomb. I might send you one. I'm gonna send you one. How about that?

• 56:39Laci Mosley?

  Yo, oh, my God, stop. I would die. This is like so dope.

• 56:42Speaker 05

  You need it.

• 56:43Laci Mosley?

  I feel like I'm in a music video. I feel like it's cute.

• 56:47Speaker 05

  Yes. It's giving Cisco, it's giving Jamiroquai. I have to change it up. I like to change it up.

• 56:53Laci Mosley?

  Not Cisco, boy. I would never.

• 56:55Speaker 05

  I'm stalling.

• 56:56Laci Mosley?

  I'll never forget, Cisco is an icon, and the way he sang the thong song will stay with me for the rest of my life, because I have never seen anybody built a most.

• 57:07Speaker 05

  Speaking. Speaking of niggas who sing like banjos, that man said

• 57:15Laci Mosley?

  But what kills me that song is who let him get in the booth? And be like, "I like it with a beat, go, baby let your booty go." Like, he was singing so hard, like he was touched by the spirit. Baby. Like, he was singing so hard about that

• 57:35Speaker 05

  I miss artists like that. You know what, and this is actually in line, like, I feel like Guap Dad 4000 is kinda close to that, like, cuz he does scam rap, it's the only reason I'm bringing him up.

• 57:44Laci Mosley?

  No, I love, you know I know Guap Dad.

• 57:46Speaker 05

  Girl, I know, you was up on all the scamming, I know that, I know that about you, I would never disrespect.

• 57:50Laci Mosley?

  Scam music is my forte, I love some scam music.

• 57:53Speaker 05

  Bitch, do you know TJ X6?

• 57:56Laci Mosley?

  Are you kidding? I talked about him on the podcast, cuz he named it after the credit card swiper that he was using. And I was like, oh, a genius, a genius.

• 58:05Speaker 05

  I love that I'm with my people right now, you know what the fuck, well, you know what the fuck time we on, bitch?

• 58:10Laci Mosley?

  What time it is?

• 58:12Speaker 05

  Bitch, bitch, love it, okay, sorry. I'm stalling again, I'm stalling, I'm stalling.

• 58:18Laci Mosley?

  Never apologize, queen, you are absolutely on the money, you are giving me all my oxygen and air.

• 58:25Laci Mosley?

  So, our scammer of the week, and guys, this is the part where we highlight a charlatan who's worthy of our praise, or not, cuz sometimes they turn out to be trash, but we like they scam anyway.

• 58:37Laci Mosley?

  So today, we're gonna hardcore pivot to a line dancing scam.

• 58:42Speaker 05

  Nebraska skin is all ghetto, she knew the Midwest bitch was gonna be here today. She said, "Let's cater to her."

• 58:49Laci Mosley?

  To you, okay, let me cater to you. And you know what, can I just, the last tangent, I'm lying, it might not be, but "Cater to you" always sticks with me because I'll never forget when they did it.

• 59:01Speaker 05

  I know what you about to say.

• 59:02Laci Mosley?

  The BET performance.

• 59:04Speaker 05

  Bitch, I knew you was about to say that shit. Holy shit.

• 59:09Laci Mosley?

  Why did they do?

• 59:10Speaker 05

  This girl said you was off your ones, he was on your ones and threes, bitch, you need to be on the twos and fours, that's what you need to be. Oh my god.

• 59:16Laci Mosley?

  Why did they give Michelle?

• 59:20Speaker 05

  Michelle was really get

• 59:23Speaker 05

  Trying to give it

• 59:24Laci Mosley?

  Yo

• 59:25Speaker 05

  You know what?

• 59:26Laci Mosley?

  Michelle is a whole scam because I love Michelle so much and she gets so much shade but Michelle is paid honey Destiny's Child is paying all the utilities, they're paying all the rents, they're paying everything, y'all can disrespect her if y'all want, but

• 59:39Speaker 05

  Before it's due, Michelle is handing in the payment before it's due, she paying six months in advance

• 59:44Laci Mosley?

  Everything's all I don't pay She don't even notice when the shit leave the account, like, Michelle is doing well

• 59:49Speaker 05

  Brett be overcharging her and she don't even notice

• 59:51Laci Mosley?

  She don't even know, they're like it's Michelle, she ain't gonna know, she ain't gonna know that we charged her extra Like, and also I will never forget when they performed at 106th Park and Michelle fell and they stepped over her like roadkill and continued the performance

• 1:00:05Speaker 05

  Beyonce and Kelly ain't miss a fucking beat bitch, they really was like this is our job and that's what you chose to do, so we'll be carrying on with the performance

• 1:00:14Laci Mosley?

  I feel like Michelle be falling all the time, cuz I fall all the time to the point where people, like, I have a little scar right here cuz I fell the other day Like, I fall, as an adult, I fall too much, it's ridiculous, my feet are too big for my body

• 1:00:27Speaker 05

  I need to know what her zodiac sign is

• 1:00:29Laci Mosley?

  I do too, but she must fall so often cuz they weren't even like, are you okay, they're like, she's fine

• 1:00:34Speaker 05

  They were like, it's part, it's part of the act everybody, just carry on

• 1:00:37Laci Mosley?

  Can you keep up, Michelle couldn't, raise the noise, I'm gonna lose my breath, Michelle, you good, bring the noise

• 1:00:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine

• 1:00:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, shout out to Michelle, so the line dancing scam, Brett and Bruce Jenkins allegedly arranged an overseas trip for fellow line dancers only to cancel and not provide refunds Wow, hurtful So Brett Jenkins, thirty-seven, and Bruce Jenkins, sixty-six, from Queensland, Australia, are alleged to have arranged an overseas trip and tours for line dancing festivals, balls, cruises, only to cancel and not provide the refunds Police are reaching out to line dancing community

• 1:01:17Speaker 05

  I'm so fucking mad that you have said Australian and line dancing in the same sentence, we need to shut this whole shit down

• 1:01:25Laci Mosley?

  What in the shrimp and the Barbie is this?

• 1:01:30Laci Mosley?

  Yo. I thought we was gonna be doing like Kanyang Wang with it. I thought it was gonna be like the Cupid Shuffle. I thought y'all were gonna give me the electric slide. Not Australian line dancers. What do they even do? Like Soulja Boy but in the Outback? Like I'm very confused. No, they were like, we gotta, we. What bitch? What? Can you do hopping? We gotta Joey. We gotta everyone do the Joey. We're all doing the Joey. Everyone hop. In one, two, three, four. Alright, Liza Disc, which is the best thing I can say and I'll show you next thing. Y'all know that. We're like, we're doing the Liza Disc now. Like, what are y'all even doing? What in the Nicole Kidman? Uh, you know, I hate this one. No, I hate this one. No.

• 1:02:16Laci Mosley?

  Everyone, you guys know, we love lawn dancing.

• 1:02:20Laci Mosley?

  What is this? What is this, honey? And I love, but also, why are police reaching out to the line dancing community? How do you even find the line dancing community? Like, hey, we the police. Knock, knock. Bitch, we bored. We ain't got shit to do. It's Australia. So. Good day. Good day. Um, we wanna know where the line dancing criminals are? Like, what? I am confusion. So, the popo done reached out and we're like, basically, what can y'all tell us about this? Cause it's a father-son duo that is allegedly defrauding thousands of dollars from their fellow line dancers. Damn, this is a very niche scam. I feel like you can't do this for long, cause the line dancing community, like, they gonna meet up at the next. They sharp. They fast, too. They on their feet. They quick on their feet, for real.

• 1:03:05Laci Mosley?

  And they coordinated. They coordinated. They gonna get y'all.

• 1:03:07Laci Mosley?

  Exactly, bitch. We speak. So, many, many of the victims are elderly and vulnerable to financial fraud. And police said that some had lost their life savings. Damn. For what? Imagine, this is your bucket list, bro. Like, the last thing on your bucket list is like, I'm gonna go to the bar, the Bobby. I can't, my, y'all know my accent is very. No, you was killing it before. Go back. I was, but it's gone. I think it's gone now. Running back. Guy gave me a little bit, but then was like, no more. But these people were excited about this. This was their bucket list. And you taking all their savings? But also, if you blowing your savings on line dancing, did you really need your savings? Like, come on now. Don't act like you out of house and home. You gave it up for line dancing? And if you had had the experience, you would have been fine with it, so.

• 1:03:54Speaker 05

  Also bitch, you bout to kick the can anyway, so I don't know what you need that money for.

• 1:03:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're good.

• 1:03:58Speaker 05

  Where you going with it?

• 1:03:58Laci Mosley?

  You're good.

• 1:03:59Speaker 05

  Where you going with all that money?

• 1:04:00Laci Mosley?

  Where you going with it? To the grave? Let's get out.

• 1:04:04Laci Mosley?

  So the men who have been a part of the line dancing community for fifteen years are alleged to have used the trust that they built to scam over a hundred twenty thousand dollars from more than a hundred people. Some victims allegedly paid as much as ten thousand dollars for fraudulent trips and social events. Oh, this is sad. This is why dancing people were lonely.

• 1:04:23Speaker 05

  Yo, this is devastating. You know what's fucked up? Actually, I can't say this. This is really, nevermind.

• 1:04:30Speaker 05

  I must be like, a hundred twenty K ain't even that much.

• 1:04:32Laci Mosley?

  It's not, no, it's, no.

• 1:04:34Speaker 05

  It is, but it's not, like.

• 1:04:36Laci Mosley?

  You can say it. It is, but it's not.

• 1:04:38Speaker 05

  Like, to do all that, like, it's a hundred twenty K. I'm like, oh, they can buy like three, four cars if they want mediocre ones, but like, what are they gonna get off that?

• 1:04:46Laci Mosley?

  A hundred twenty K is year-changing money, maybe two years. It's not life-changing money.

• 1:04:51Speaker 05

  God, the value of a dollar is really fucking me up now that I'm a grown person. Like, I don't even know what money is worth. It's so bullshit.

• 1:04:58Laci Mosley?

  And I'm so disrespectful towards it. I used to, I told you, I used to stretch that twenty and now, ooh, choppy.

• 1:05:03Speaker 05

  No, I don't even know. I couldn't even tell you what twenty dollars could get me. Truly, don't know. The idea of a meal, the idea of a drink.

• 1:05:10Laci Mosley?

  We sound like homegirl from Arrested Development. What does a banana cost?

• 1:05:15Speaker 05

  Bitch, it's not our fault. We live, you live in L.A., right?

• 1:05:17Laci Mosley?

  Right, yes, it's very expensive here.

• 1:05:19Speaker 05

  Fucked up city. It's like, I can't even buy nothing. Like, a bottle of wine is like a hundred dollars.

• 1:05:24Laci Mosley?

  You come to L.A., you can get yourself a five hundred square foot apartment for two million dollars, and I'm not even kidding, I saw one. And I was like, I wanna take a tour of this place, not because I want it, but I just wanna fight the realtor for the audacity.

• 1:05:39Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:05:39Laci Mosley?

  Like, I just wanna pull up so I can have a fisticuffs.

• 1:05:42Speaker 05

  Bitch, why do you, why do you represent this place? Are you proud of representing this place? I'll just shake your ass right here.

• 1:05:47Laci Mosley?

  I'll beat your ass. Five hundred square feet, y'all got nerve, okay? Nerve.

• 1:05:53Speaker 05

  Wait.

• 1:05:53Laci Mosley?

  So Queensland Police said that a number of victims was like growing daily, so they were going ham. We got a tweet from the police. We gonna read the tweet from the police. It's a picture of, oh my god, a very unsavory-looking man.

• 1:06:06Speaker 05

  Oh, god.

• 1:06:07Laci Mosley?

  And it says, "Have you been a victim of this fraudulent activity related to line dancing events, including overseas and domestic travel? Question mark. Do you recognize this man? Question mark. We believe he may be able to assist with our inquiries."

• 1:06:23Speaker 05

  First of all, I can't even focus. I can't focus because Australians spell recognize with a S instead of a Z. And that shit pisses me off. Nigga, use the Z. What's it there for?

• 1:06:33Laci Mosley?

  It is a Z sound. Recognize.

• 1:06:36Speaker 05

  Nigga said recognize.

• 1:06:38Laci Mosley?

  Recognize?

• 1:06:39Speaker 05

  It's what?

• 1:06:39Laci Mosley?

  Do you recognize? Recognize?

• 1:06:42Speaker 05

  They like, we don't like to use the Z.

• 1:06:44Laci Mosley?

  We don't use the Z.

• 1:06:46Speaker 05

  No, I stop. Shut the fuck up.

• 1:06:48Laci Mosley?

  Do you just use recognize? Like, recognize? What the fuck? So.

• 1:06:53Speaker 05

  This man, this man looked like, I don't even know what he looked like.

• 1:06:57Laci Mosley?

  Why would you give that man your money?

• 1:06:59Speaker 05

  Uh-uh. That man gotta pay me to look at him.

• 1:07:02Laci Mosley?

  He looked like a extra rat in Ratatouille. Like, he wasn't a main rat.

• 1:07:07Speaker 05

  He looked like the understudy.

• 1:07:09Laci Mosley?

  He would have, the rat's homie, like.

• 1:07:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:07:12Laci Mosley?

  He'd be like, we'll use if we need you, Bill. Okay, I'll be here. Like, it's giving.

• 1:07:18Speaker 05

  Y'all, if y'all, when y'all see this photo, you'll understand that Lacey is making this joke because of the size of this man's mouth. It is giving chipmunk. It is giving gerbil. Like, it is not, it's nice rodent-like, to say the least.

• 1:07:29Laci Mosley?

  Right. I'm like, is this Alvin? Alvin, is that you?

• 1:07:33Speaker 05

  Where are your brothers? Are your brothers here?

• 1:07:35Laci Mosley?

  Right. Oh, I guess he got one with him. I'm like, is this the scam? It's just Alvin and the Chipmunks? But, yeah, it's interesting to me, though, now that law enforcement and the FBI and stuff are using Twitter, and I've talked about this before, like, to try to catch people, and I'm like, bah. Don't you get city, like, we pay taxes for y'all to be able to do y'all job. What am I gonna do it for on Twitter for?

• 1:07:55Speaker 05

  Exactly. Y'all don't pay me. There is no bounty. Put a bounty over a nigga head and then I'm snitching.

• 1:08:01Laci Mosley?

  Right. What happened to bounties?

• 1:08:02Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:08:03Laci Mosley?

  What happened to bounties?

• 1:08:04Speaker 05

  I miss a bounty.

• 1:08:05Laci Mosley?

  Okay. I want a wanted's poster on the street, and then I'll help.

• 1:08:10Speaker 05

  America's most. Exactly.

• 1:08:12Laci Mosley?

  Right. We ain't doing this. So he said it was only in the last 12 months that the men had potentially begun the fraudulent activity after years of building up trust in the community. That's a long con. Facebook post from a grieved customer said that the father and son were going through health issues. The two men remain on the run. I love that no one's caught in this episode. Amen. The Queensland Line Dancing Association distanced itself from Brett Jenkins. They released a statement saying, "I would like to reiterate that Brett Jenkins is not and has never been a member of our association. We have no affiliation whatsoever with him and his capacity as a line dancing instructor or with his travel company." So they were like, we're stepping away from this. We're not involved. Come over here, pay money to line dance with us Australians.

• 1:08:57Speaker 05

  This is a mess. This whole story is a mess because I can't even sympathize because I would never be scammed to line dance. I don't even know where your head is at, that you're willing to give this much money away. First of all, to white man. Second of all, to line dance. That's not an activity that you need to be invested in.

• 1:09:13Laci Mosley?

  You don't even need equipment for that. Like, what y'all got? Line dancing special footwear, like outfits that match? Like, I'm confused. Like, there's nothing a part of this that you need to purchase things for. And if you need to purchase-

• 1:09:25Speaker 05

  Maybe it was like a barn party. They be doing that shit. Barn parties and shit.

• 1:09:30Laci Mosley?

  If you gonna have a trip, though, you would pay for the trip out of pocket. Like, the only thing you'd be paying for is to show up for the line function. Like, what? How?

• 1:09:40Speaker 05

  These niggas don't deserve that money. That's what it is. You don't want it, you don't need it in your life. God took it from you. Bye.

• 1:09:48Laci Mosley?

  And that's why you gave it up. You knew you didn't deserve it. And so you gave it away to the line dancing.

• 1:09:53Speaker 05

  Something deep in you. Yo, that's crazy. That's deep seated. That's psychological at that point. You scamming yourself.

• 1:10:01Laci Mosley?

  And that happens. It's called desperation. We talk about the despot meter all the time. How desperate are you? You really have to think when a situation is shady and you're moving forward, why are you moving forward? Do you really need it? And then think about that. Are you ignoring the flags because you need it?

• 1:10:16Speaker 05

  Girl, you act like we have time for self-reflection. Nigga, I'm sad. I don't have time to think about shit. Take my money, bitch.

• 1:10:25Laci Mosley?

  Truly, I do too much self-reflection. I'm so sick of this bitch talking to me. And by this bitch, I mean me and Lacey Mosley. Because she be talking all the time, oh, you know, like, make sure you're not doing too much. I'm like, girl, shut up. I'm trying to live.

• 1:10:36Speaker 05

  I'm trying to be ignorant while I still can. Stop making me grow.

• 1:10:39Laci Mosley?

  This empathy is killing me.

• 1:10:42Speaker 05

  It really is.

• 1:10:42Laci Mosley?

  I'm giving the shit up. I already told y'all on this podcast, when I turn fifty, I'm turning evil. It's a rap, okay? I'm about to be evil as fuck. So I can sleep good.

• 1:10:51Speaker 05

  I had to recently quit meditating because I'm just becoming too strong. And I don't like it. I don't like it. I had, I had to stop. I need to maintain a level of ignorance to be a comedian, first of all, because we gotta say reckless shit. We gotta speak our truth. And my truth was becoming peace. And I don't like that. I don't like that.

• 1:11:07Laci Mosley?

  You got too peaceful? Like, I need a little anger to fuel what's happening over here.

• 1:11:12Speaker 05

  Need to maintain some toxicity so I can get paid.

• 1:11:15Laci Mosley?

  I'm too zen, too zen. Gotta go, gotta go do some toxic shit. I understand that, and I have done it. Yes, guys, we're at the end of the episode.

• 1:11:25Speaker 05

  We really are.

• 1:11:26Laci Mosley?

  And Aida, we always ask on this podcast, where do you want to be found?

• 1:11:30Speaker 05

  Where do I want to be found? I want to be found at, um, just a common ground where you can meet me where I'm at and give me the love and like, okay, um, I'm on all social media and Venmos and CashX and all types of monetary. Everything is shut up, Aida. And once I get my website popping, bitch, it's finna be shut up, Aida. Because I gotta say it before y'all say it to me, because I know you about to say it to me, because all I do is talk out my neck.

• 1:11:54Laci Mosley?

  And I love it.

• 1:11:56Speaker 05

  I'm online and act like I have no home training, but I was raised in a very pious Muslim household. So I just want y'all to know, that's where I'm coming from. Um, you can find me online at ShutUpAida. Um, and then also I have a podcast for Crooked Media called Keep It, where me and my co-host, Ira, who you guys know, Ira Madison III, and emphasis on the third,

• 1:12:17Laci Mosley?

  Yes, on the third.

• 1:12:18Speaker 05

  will not let you forget, and Louis Vertell, my in-house white gay, the only one that I maintain in my life. Um, we have a, we have a show where we talk about the, the cross-sections of politics and pop culture, and we get really messy, and we don't give a shit about nothing. And that's why all your favorite rappers have us blocked. So come through, um, yeah, we talk about everything. We, we have a lot of fun over there. We really just, we try, we try and be smart. We try and be smart, but it's really just being like, y'all remember when Beyonce and, and Tina tried to do a fashion brand? Pre-Ivy Park, y'all remember that?

• 1:12:52Laci Mosley?

  Darien, let's not talk about it, because I went in there and tried to get, I said Beyonce, I wanted to look like you. Why, why you got me out here by a puffy coast and, and baby fat gray value? It hurt my heart.

• 1:13:04Speaker 05

  Well, first of all, we will never look like Beyonce or Solange because we don't have Miss Tina Knowles as our mother and seamstress. Like, that is just an impossible.

• 1:13:11Laci Mosley?

  And she always gave them the best looks. It was always like, Miss Tina would go to the fabric store and be like, "Give me a roll of that." And then, whatever she had left over after making Beyonce's outfit, she would like, cut that up and give it to Kelly. And then the rest, like, if there's something on the roll, she would wrap that around Michelle and be like, "All right, prosper."

• 1:13:31Speaker 05

  My favorite was when she just took the whole roll and pinned one of it to Solange's right hip. And then continued the roll to another right hip of a background singer. And it's ended up beautiful, but they was all disconnected by this, like, Joann's fabric, ten-foot strip of just beautiful velvet. So y'all check that out, but yeah.

• 1:13:50Laci Mosley?

  Tina's an icon.

• 1:13:51Speaker 05

  She really is. Oh, my God. So tell me why I was in NoHo at the theater that she has up there and Tina was there. Tina was there watching. Oh, girl, girl. Tina Knowles has touched my shoulder and I have not bathed since, bitch.

• 1:14:05Laci Mosley?

  And you should it never bathe again. I once was on a plane, uh, I had to do some work at Essence Festival. And was coming back and Miss Tina was on my plane. And I said, "Ooh, child, I never, I have anxiety about planes." Like, so I was like, this was the first time I ever got on a plane. I was like, "Well, I know this bitch ain't gonna crash, cuz Miss Tina's on it."

• 1:14:23Speaker 05

  He said, "God is protective, at least one of us."

• 1:14:26Laci Mosley?

  Tina is on it.

• 1:14:26Speaker 05

  And it ain't me.

• 1:14:28Laci Mosley?

  Right. I'm gonna get some residual protection. I'm gonna be, you know, plus one protection.

• 1:14:33Speaker 05

  I love that for you. I love that you felt safe in that moment. Because the last time I was on a plane, tell me why I walked in first class and it's fucking Stephen A. Smith?

• 1:14:41Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that shit might have gone up in flames.

• 1:14:43Speaker 05

  Bitch. I was like, "We definitely finna die now because this man is a walking sin." A walking, anyway. So, so yes, y'all can catch me on those social medias and also listen to Keep It. We drop every Wednesday morning and... Yeah, and we disrespect, we disrespect.

• 1:15:00Laci Mosley?

  And it's popping. Y'all just got blessed, cuz it's, if y'all didn't know already, which pretty much everybody knows, best, most lit guests, they be having everybody, every celeb, every corner of the world, like, it's popping, so, get into it.

• 1:15:12Speaker 05

  Oh wait, shit, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, before you get out, I had a quick plug, because I just started TV writing last year, and in that meantime, gosh, we are in this bitch, how we sound like in this bitch. Also, Big Mouth, season five will drop in the coming year, but most importantly, Betty on HBO, the show about a bunch of Roddy skateboarding bitches.

• 1:15:30Laci Mosley?

  And I love that show. I love that show. I love the first season, it was so cute.

• 1:15:35Speaker 05

  I love writing.

• 1:15:35Laci Mosley?

  And there was so much about skateboarding, I didn't know. Like, the dynamics with women, and how the men act, and of course, men are trash in every industry, but like, learning around it, I was like.

• 1:15:45Speaker 05

  The only constant, the only constant is that men suck everywhere.

• 1:15:49Laci Mosley?

  Men will not let you down when it comes to being trash. You could always count on that. Count on men, through thick, get thin, they trash behave, you're never is, when you are weak, it's cuz of them. I don't know why that, just, I don't know where that came from, but.

• 1:16:07Speaker 05

  I'm happy you came, is what I am.

• 1:16:09Laci Mosley?

  Shout out to Whitney. Um, as always, guys, Scam Goddess Pod on all platforms. If you wanna email your scams in, don't snitch on your friends and family before you make sure it's retired, that's [email protected]. And if you wanna see me and my shenanigans, D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacey, on all platforms. Black Lays Sketch Show, April 23rd. Don't know when this drops, it might already be out. Oh, and the con, Wednesdays on ABC, I'm on that too. Alright guys, congregation, stay scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf Production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess is starring me, duh, Scam Goddess, AKA Lacey Mosley. Scam Goddess is produced by Judith Carbo and engineered by Marina Baiz, with research by Sherilyn Vera. Stay scheming.

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