Fraud Friday: The Faith Peddler w/ Jean Elie

On this week's Fraud Friday, Laci welcomes Jean Elie (HBO’s Insecure) to the show to discuss Fred Brito, a con artist of many faces including the faces of priests. Plus, John Oliver recently tipped his hat to Kim Kardashian for her role in helping solve an art fraud scheme. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 11/01/2022) Also, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom signed Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes book? Look no more, nab your copy here on PODSWAG. Plus, keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram:Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaciJean Ellie: @jeanelie Research by Kaelyn Bryant SOURCES https://www.cnn.com/style/article/egypt-gold-coffin-of-nedjemankh-trnd/index.html#:~:text=An%20ancient%20gold%20coffin%20displayed,Office%20in%20a%20statement%20Wednesday https://deadline.com/2022/10/john-oliver-recognizes-kim-kardashian-influence-helping-solve-art-fraud-scheme-1235133309/ https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna18300507 https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-aug-17-me-brito17-story.html https://www.taosnews.com/news/crime/the-pancake-con-man/article_c469819b-b018-5348-ae2d-af20a9ebfe75.html

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:32Speaker 03

  Even on my antidepressant, I still struggled with depression symptoms.

• 1:35Laci Mosley?

  You OK, honey?

• 1:37Speaker 03

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• 2:22Laci Mosley?

  Hey, how you doing, honey?

• 2:23Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:24Speaker 05

  Okay-ish.

• 2:25Speaker 03

  No-ish. I'm okay, really.

• 2:28Speaker 05

  Ask your doctor about adding...

• 2:33Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 3:15Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who peractus it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We will see, but as always, come on, where's my blues clues, my tap at the brown audience? I am very, yes, I'm very excited for today's guest. I truly is, or truly am. It's a friend of the show, it's a friend of me, it's the homie, and y'all know how homie episodes go. They get a little wild. But you know, I'll keep it contained and professional. Will I? Y'all know I won't.

• 3:45Laci Mosley?

  But today, we have a hilarious king. He is Haitian, Zo Gang member, and now Judith is back here doing the Haitian signs and throwing up. Alright, sak passe, the Haitians are in the building. Nula, nula, nula. Oh, God, I'm being overpowered, guys. Let me join, let me join. I'm fake Haitian as well. I'm fake Nigerian, I'm fake Haitian. Y'all know that I'm fake anywhere from the diaspora, because I'm not giving the government my 23andMe's. Yes, he's a showrunner and an actor. You've seen him on TV in Insecure, rap shit. And now he's starring in his own series with All Black called Send Help, which I've seen. It's so good, it's so funny, and it's such a, it's a really heartwarming story as well,

• 4:28Laci Mosley?

  and also very Haitian, so you know, get involved. His production company, Basset House Pictures, is holding a- Screen that night, short film competition. Okay, and for more details, you can head over to film freeway dot com slash B H P S. Short film competition. Not y'all having full plugs up at the top and go, listen, John's publicist is good. Congregation, please welcome John Elliott to the show.

• 4:51Speaker 06

  What's up? What up, what up, y'all? How y'all doing?

• 4:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you have a great voice. People are gonna really love your voice.

• 4:56Speaker 06

  Really?

• 4:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they be getting tired of my grading shit. They're like, ma'am, can you drink tea? Like, why do you sound like this? But here we are. Wait, okay, so John, I have to ask you. I knew you were doing that because the last, it was in my no, wait. Or I was eating a sandwich. Literally, John does this to me all the time, and I knew that you were doing it to me while I was talking. Cause like, one time we were out and he was like wiping his nose, and I was like, oh, has he got something on his nose? And he's like, no, you have a hooker. I was like, oh, my God. Oh, so embarrassing. I always have something on my face when I see John. I guess this is just.

• 5:25Speaker 06

  I'm trying to let you out here like that crazy. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to make sure you good.

• 5:28Laci Mosley?

  He's like, you look crazy, sis. What's up? I'm gonna tell you, I appreciate that about you. You know, the Leos, they're gonna support you. They're also, we were talking before we got on the air about, um, a date that you were helping your friend.

• 5:40Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was helping him navigate that situation. Cause he's not from L A. He's from New York, so he was, he had a date, so he was trying to figure out where to go, what to do, and things of that nature. So I just put him on some, some spots to go to.

• 5:53Laci Mosley?

  That's really sweet of you. And then I asked, cause John said that, like, back in the day, when he, he is all fianced. If you haven't read People magazine. He is all fianced. He is, has a fiance. He's getting married. But, and, and back in the day, you were saying like, oh, yeah, like, if I go on a date, maybe I do it early in the day. Cause you were like, maybe I spend like.

• 6:11Speaker 06

  The whole day with the person.

• 6:12Laci Mosley?

  That's wild. And I was like, that's big Pisces energy, but you said, but you're a Leo and I know you're a Leo. And we talked about that, cause I said I had to kick Leos out of my life.

• 6:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, I know, which is sad. It's unfortunate. You should not, you should not do that.

• 6:22Laci Mosley?

  Y'all, y'all always wanna throw a themed party. Everybody gotta have a certain outfit to come. Like, it's just very stressful, late July and early August.

• 6:31Speaker 06

  Not like August first babies, not the people in the beginning half of, of Leo season. There's the people in the last half, they're like, we need to be all white. I'm like, I'm so over this all white situation. Like, it's so plagued.

• 6:44Laci Mosley?

  We don't own all white, all of, listen, I do, but I buy all of my white shirts from Amazon for like four dollars because I'm not an adult. So if I get a white shirt, I'm wearing it one time, there will somehow magically be a stain on it, and it needs to be thrown away. So I'm not spending money on a white shirt.

• 7:00Speaker 06

  It's pointless. I really don't see a reason.

• 7:01Laci Mosley?

  They are attracted to stains.

• 7:03Speaker 06

  Why to wear all white? Like, it makes no sense.

• 7:05Laci Mosley?

  I'll literally not eat anything, not drink anything, and then somehow I'll come home and there's a stain on my shirt.

• 7:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 7:09Laci Mosley?

  Ow.

• 7:10Speaker 06

  Big facts.

• 7:11Laci Mosley?

  One day, maybe I'll be like, like Sarah Jessica Parker said, she's the type of girl who wears white and never spills on me. It's not me, I'm a stallion.

• 7:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, well, that's a fucking lie. Like, literally, I will spill red, something, everything on me. And there'll be no red in the vicinity, and I'll still get red on me.

• 7:25Laci Mosley?

  And how did red get on it? White is a scam. White clothing is a scam. But speaking of scams, Sean.

• 7:31Speaker 06

  You know what's a scam? Them towels in the hotel. Them white towels in the hotel. Them, they just be like, you be taking a shower, and you're like, cool, you took a shower. And then you wipe yourself down. You're like, damn, am I still dirty? Like, I just took a shower.

• 7:43Laci Mosley?

  No, I know exactly what you mean. You start to hit that neck, and I'm like, I know I scrubbed my neck in the shower. Like, what is this? What is this?

• 7:50Speaker 06

  I put my own loofah in everything to make sure I'm good.

• 7:52Laci Mosley?

  Right. Listen, hotel towels in general. Also, we've said it before on this podcast, if you're in a hotel, make sure that you ask for it to be cleaned every day. That's a scam hotels are trying to do so that they don't have to pay people to clean the hotel rooms. It's not about COVID. It's not about you being a nice person. They just trying to be cheap. So y'all call and get y'all room cleaned every day, get y'all fresh sheets, and help out the community.

• 8:12Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 8:13Laci Mosley?

  But we always ask at the beginning of the show, what is your relationship with scams, Sean? Do you like them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scam? Have you ever run some scams that you're at liberty to talk about? I know, I know you do on one of the shows that you're on. If you haven't seen the first season of Rap Shit, get into it.

• 8:28Speaker 06

  The little scam, scams, uh, stand the scammer. Uh, mm, I wouldn't consider it a scam.

• 8:34Laci Mosley?

  Love that.

• 8:35Speaker 06

  Uh, I consider it just business.

• 8:37Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay. Scams can be business. Scams are a whole profession.

• 8:41Speaker 06

  Like, my job wasn't providing it when I was, I used to work for Sprint.

• 8:44Laci Mosley?

  Mm, you worked for Sprint, so definitely you were a scammer. Was you wearing a yellow polo?

• 8:48Speaker 06

  No, I had a black polo. I had the black polo.

• 8:50Laci Mosley?

  Classy.

• 8:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, old school, old school. Yeah, I was at old school. I was, at that point, I wasn't a manager at that time, but like, I literally used to go on eBay, buy SIM cards for 10 bucks, and sell at the store for 50 bucks.

• 9:02Laci Mosley?

  Wowzers. Yes, I'm gonna say that that's a scam, Sean.

• 9:08Laci Mosley?

  Not you coming in with your own products. I go into the store trying to buy something, you pulling it out your pocket like, hold on, my guy.

• 9:13Speaker 06

  Hold on. They was like, yo, we need SIM cards. The store didn't provide SIM cards, so I provided an extra service. I was trying to retain customers, it was customer retention, I was holding them down.

• 9:23Laci Mosley?

  You were going above and beyond.

• 9:24Speaker 06

  And sold them a phone, you know what I'm saying, from the.

• 9:27Laci Mosley?

  Right. You're like, you want a phone case, I got phone cases too. Yeah, I don't know, I buy from this guy at Sprint, he pulls everything out of his pocket.

• 9:34Laci Mosley?

  I don't know if he was like straight cash or Venmo, I didn't know Sprint was doing all that. I love this for you. How long did you work at Sprint?

• 9:42Speaker 06

  I worked for Sprint probably like, three years, three, four years.

• 9:46Laci Mosley?

  How often were you selling SIM cards?

• 9:48Speaker 06

  Ooh, I ended up doing it for like a year.

• 9:50Laci Mosley?

  Okay, that's good enough time.

• 9:51Speaker 06

  I ended up doing it for like a year. The only reason I had to stop is because what's it called, my manager at the time snitched on me to my district manager, so I had to like.

• 9:58Laci Mosley?

  Hater. He just mad, he didn't think of it first.

• 10:00Speaker 06

  Big hate, like, big hate.

• 10:02Laci Mosley?

  Now, when he snitched, did they try to let you go, or?

• 10:05Speaker 06

  No, he was like, ah, come on, John, you can't do that. I'm like, yo, I'm helping y'all out, I'm providing a service, y'all don't got no SIM cards, I'm providing SIM card.

• 10:14Laci Mosley?

  Right, this feels like upper level management. You got ideas, they should have promoted you.

• 10:18Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 10:19Laci Mosley?

  You need to be in the boardroom, getting the bag up.

• 10:22Speaker 06

  I was trying to help them out.

• 10:23Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Also, I love, my favorite scam run on, that Sprint did, was, remember the, um, can you hear me now nigga from Verizon?

• 10:30Speaker 06

  Yeah, when they took that dude.

• 10:31Laci Mosley?

  And they, and I think after that, they changed how commercial sponsorships work, because at the time, nobody ever thought that somebody who was the face of a company was just gonna go to a competitor and be like, alright, can y'all hear me now, over here at Sprint?

• 10:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah. You know what's the biggest scam, honestly, is Apple. How Apple phones will literally give you all these updates, and then to mess up your phone to get you to get a new phone.

• 10:53Laci Mosley?

  I always call it Steve Jobs tinkering with my shit from the beyond. If there's a new phone coming out, I know Steve is in my joint just rearranging wires, fucking up my battery life.

• 11:02Speaker 06

  Oh, it won't, it won't ruin your phone, it's fine, it's fine, it just helps it, improves it, yeah, right.

• 11:07Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you wanted your phone to work? Oh, you trying to make phone calls? Oh, then you need to get the iPhone 2012. Like, what you talking about, bitch, get that iPhone 30.

• 11:13Speaker 06

  Which is the same phone, with the same phone with a different, with it added on camera.

• 11:15Laci Mosley?

  And it's more breakable.

• 11:17Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 11:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this is, we got glass all over this one, okay? You are definitely gonna crack this bitch, okay? You, you, just don't let it contact ground.

• 11:26Speaker 06

  Look, I'm running risks out here with my phone. Literally, it don't have a case.

• 11:31Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you're wild. That's a personality type. People who have their phone, just raw dogging their phone with life. Like, that's a personality type. It's a flex.

• 11:39Speaker 06

  It's kind of living life on the edge, you know what I'm saying?

• 11:41Laci Mosley?

  You never have to go anywhere super quickly. You're never late for things.

• 11:44Speaker 06

  Nah, I take my time.

• 11:45Laci Mosley?

  It's giving punctual. It's giving you wake up every morning, have your breakfast, do your routine.

• 11:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:51Laci Mosley?

  Not me. I have like five cases on my plate. I have the screen protector, which is cracked, but I've learned my lesson. If I take the cracked one off, I'm gonna crack the real screen. So I have to wait until I'm replacing it. But then I also have the OtterBox, which you can tell has really been like, my OtterBox is like, all my life I had to fight.

• 12:10Laci Mosley?

  Because I've been dropping this bitch all the time, every day.

• 12:12Speaker 06

  Look, you are an OtterBox commercial right now. Like, they're literally loving you right now.

• 12:16Laci Mosley?

  They are, and as they should, because these shits really work. You know, you can throw it up against a wall. You can drop it from like a small story building.

• 12:25Speaker 06

  You know what the thing I've been always wanted to try? You know how they be like, your phone is waterproof?

• 12:28Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 12:29Speaker 06

  But I'm always scared to just submerge my phone completely in the water to check it out, to see if it really works.

• 12:33Laci Mosley?

  Now, why would you need to do that?

• 12:34Speaker 06

  Why not?

• 12:36Laci Mosley?

  I have dropped it in water.

• 12:37Speaker 06

  They said it's waterproof, so I'm like...

• 12:39Laci Mosley?

  For a few seconds. Like, they don't want to really sell it, because then you could like sue them or like try to get a new phone if it doesn't work out.

• 12:45Speaker 06

  Did you know that people sued the Red Bull people for Red Bull gives you wings?

• 12:49Laci Mosley?

  Oh, because they wasn't getting the wings?

• 12:50Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 12:51Laci Mosley?

  Listen, they're not wrong.

• 12:53Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 12:54Laci Mosley?

  Red Bull ain't never, I ain't never flew on a Red Bull.

• 12:57Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 12:57Laci Mosley?

  No. It just tastes like sweet gasoline. I'm like, maybe this is doing something. Am I a car? Put it in my tank. But let's take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements. We'll be right back with what's hot and fraud.

• 13:43Speaker 07

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• 13:58Speaker 08

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• 14:09Speaker 07

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• 14:14Speaker 09

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• 14:41Laci Mosley?

  And we are back, and it's time for What's Hot and Fraud. This is where we warn the streets about popping scams out there in the zeitgeist. So more often than not, we get a letter from you guys. As always, snitch on your friends, family, and your enemies at [email protected]. Just make sure the scam's retired, because we don't want to what? Yes, fuck up your bag. All right, John, I need a fake name for this person. We don't care about gender.

• 15:02Speaker 06

  Uh, Raul.

• 15:05Laci Mosley?

  Raul, oh, I like Raul. So Raul says, I wanted to start by giving you your flat. Okay, Raul, see, now, what do we talk? This is very nice, Raul. I'm reading it to myself, but I'm gonna get into what you got going on here. So Raul says, don't let the email fool you. It's fake and not my name, lol, scam. Okay, see, I love you protecting yourself from even me, which I appreciate, because if y'all doing crime,

• 15:27Speaker 06

  Smart, smart.

• 15:27Laci Mosley?

  I don't want the government over here trying to solicit my damn emails.

• 15:30Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. And I tell you how my Instagram got hacked by some Middle Eastern person? And then try to get upset with me for getting my account back from Facebook?

• 15:39Laci Mosley?

  They said, how dare you get your account back? We was trying to steal.

• 15:41Speaker 06

  Help me, brother, let me get your, let me, let me get the, let me get back into your account, because I need, I forgot something. I was like, no, you didn't forget anything, bro.

• 15:47Laci Mosley?

  I forgot something.

• 15:49Speaker 06

  You're out of your mind. Like, I literally still have the thread in the What's That conversation of him trying to steal my account back. After I got my account back, I was like, yo, bro, you're gonna give me my account back? He's like, he's like, give me.

• 16:05Laci Mosley?

  Give me, just give me like two more days.

• 16:07Speaker 06

  I'm like, no, sir, like, give me my account back.

• 16:09Laci Mosley?

  Why you not trying to help me out?

• 16:11Speaker 06

  And then, exactly, literally called my phone, like, called my phone on WhatsApp and was like, yo, bro, like, I did some of the stuff on your account I need to get. Like, call me back, like, get someone steal it first.

• 16:21Laci Mosley?

  This is our account, us.

• 16:22Speaker 06

  Us, like, the first, the first second was like, he called me, he was like, yo, yo, did you get your account back? Yo, I think someone took, I think someone took your account, took our account, our account. We not friends? You hacked my shit.

• 16:38Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, I love this guy, he's got a great personality. He was like, let me hit him up with just the vibes. We both down bad right now because somebody took our account back from us after I had taken it from you and it was ours. Now, I just need to get in there and get several passwords that I had lined up.

• 16:53Speaker 06

  I'm like, I was furious, I was, oh my god, and then he was like, yo, man. He, like, he hit me with, I was like, yo, I told you I was gonna get my account back, and he goes, he said, you're lucky I didn't get your Facebook.

• 17:06Speaker 06

  You fucking supervillain.

• 17:10Laci Mosley?

  How you gonna be mad at me because I didn't let you rob me? Like, really, you're not gonna be an equal opportunity mark and, and let me rob you? This is offensive, wow.

• 17:19Laci Mosley?

  I'm kind of proud of him for that. I keep, I won't say which countries, but there's a few countries that are big fans of one of the shows I'm on and they keep trying to hack my account. Like, I keep getting like notifications on Twitter and on Instagram, they're like, these people in this country are trying to log into your shit. I'm like, bitch, if you don't leave me alone.

• 17:34Speaker 06

  You better put the authenticator on that motherfucker.

• 17:36Laci Mosley?

  They just want that shit so they can have all my information. I'm like, Mark Zuckerberg, you already got my booty hole scanned, like, we don't need, I'm not giving you nothing else. Like, come on now, man, you got my bank accounts, you got everything you need, like, leave me alone, talking about some verification, bitch. No, so Raul says.

• 17:52Laci Mosley?

  I'm writing to tell you how I how I scammed the Nevada Energy every holiday weekend. I'm a single mom, so I really try to save money where I can. I know in Nevada, the energy company is closed every major holiday. And if they are to cut your power, they do it in between seven AM and twelve PM. I've researched this, okay?

• 18:14Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 18:15Laci Mosley?

  You know, see, times are hard in America where you gotta start researching when they cut the power off so that you can time your shit. Like, bro, this is not cool.

• 18:22Speaker 06

  We're still in a panini, so I get it.

• 18:24Laci Mosley?

  And even outside the panini, like, you know, the poor people, or not even poor, just anybody who could be a paycheck away or whatever from like, abject poverty, like, they taking advantage of us. There's poor taxes, you pay more money for your credit card interest, you pay more money for loans. Like, everything is predatory, there is a poor tax. So, I'm not mad at this, you research this, Raul, get into it. So, I enrolled in Flex Pay, pay as you go, based off of your usage. So, when a major holiday is nearing, I only pay enough up to the Friday before the holiday, since I know they won't come shut my power off over the weekend or on the holiday. I know that's right. So, I ended up getting three days worth of free power every holiday weekend. I know that's right, you got the free, you you turning on all your lights and shit.

• 19:08Laci Mosley?

  It's Arbor Day, bet, crank all the lights, okay? Turn the stove on, like, bitch, we got power, okay? Plug everything into the, uh, strip cord, you know, like, it's

• 19:19Speaker 06

  That power strip is packed.

• 19:21Laci Mosley?

  Power strip sparking, okay? We charging all the devices today, okay? So, I ended up getting three days' worth of free power on the holiday weekends. Then, I'll add more money the Monday night before they reopen for the week. I ended up saving about

• 19:35Speaker 06

  This person got it down to a science, go ahead, Raul.

• 19:37Laci Mosley?

  Raul, I I stand, single mom, you was like, look, I need the the kids, need their Game Boys, they need their Xboxes, and and I'm not paying that extra. Uh, I ended up saving about twenty dollars' worth of energy every holiday weekend that I did this. I love this scam, because I came up with it myself. Vegas power is so damn high in the summer, and I encourage everyone to do it, because paying for energy is a scam in itself. I hope you share this one, well, take care, yes, Raul.

• 20:02Speaker 06

  Go ahead, Raul.

• 20:03Laci Mosley?

  And listen, Vegas is a desert. It's literally a desert where they were like, let's go do a lot of crimes out here, and it's the desert.

• 20:09Speaker 06

  Let's just wild out and run up the gas bill and run up the electricity bill.

• 20:12Laci Mosley?

  And everybody needs to see, remember at the beginning of the pandemic, when Vegas was like, we'll open up first?

• 20:18Speaker 06

  Crazy.

• 20:19Laci Mosley?

  They're like, no, tell everybody to come to Mandalay Bay. Uh, we, we gonna keep them safe from COVID.

• 20:24Speaker 06

  We're coming to Morano.

• 20:25Laci Mosley?

  Right. Y'all got, listen, we got the fountains back up and, and we trying to get the people back in, okay?

• 20:31Speaker 06

  I wonder how much power Vegas uses.

• 20:34Laci Mosley?

  All those lights, all that AC because it's hot.

• 20:38Speaker 06

  Fuck. I remember the first time I went to Vegas, I was like twenty-two. And I literally felt like my sneakers were melting. That's how hot it was outside. And I went there in August.

• 20:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you went, oh, you really went for the heat.

• 20:53Speaker 06

  I didn't know. It was my first time.

• 20:55Laci Mosley?

  Giving Dubai in August.

• 20:56Speaker 06

  First time going. Like, I literally felt like I was running around with melted sneakers all day.

• 21:00Laci Mosley?

  I, I always loved going to Vegas in my early twenties because we never paid for anything. My friends' grandma had a condo nearby and then we would just go meet people and then they would buy us lunch and then they'd buy us dinner and get us into the club. Oh, yeah, we were living just on vibes, on youth and vibes.

• 21:16Speaker 06

  Oh, that's sweet.

• 21:17Laci Mosley?

  It was. It was very sweet.

• 21:19Speaker 06

  Must be nice.

• 21:21Laci Mosley?

  Sorry. Yeah, you gotta go make some money.

• 21:24Speaker 06

  I had to blow the bag.

• 21:25Laci Mosley?

  I just showed up as, as a cute girl and it was like, here are things. I was like, thank you so much for the things.

• 21:31Speaker 06

  It's your world.

• 21:32Laci Mosley?

  I'm just here to provide vibes. I'm glad this is an equal exchange. I give vibes, you give dinner and, uh, bottle service. It's working out for everyone. We're all having a great time. No, but I love this scam. And if y'all live in Nevada, I don't know, try it out, maybe. What's, what's the next, Thanksgiving? Christmas, you could probably definitely clean up. Get that bank holiday in there, too. What about Kwanzaa? Is anybody off on Kwanzaa? No, we not getting bank holidays for that yet. They gave us Juneteenth. And as soon as they started that shit, they really ran the bag up. Walmart was like, let's get these black ass plates and coasters and then napkins out for the Negroes, the Negro holiday.

• 22:05Speaker 06

  Oh, Lord.

• 22:05Laci Mosley?

  But, yeah, so y'all, I don't know, try it out. Maybe it'll work. We're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertising. So we'll be right back with historic hoodwings.

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• 22:43Speaker 07

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• 22:58Speaker 08

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• 23:09Speaker 07

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• 23:43Laci Mosley?

  And we are back, and it's time for Historic Hoodwings. This is where we regale Jean with the famous con caper group of criminals. We'll see if we like him, we'll see if we hate him, get his opinions all throughout. Fred Brito was a con artist of many faces. Caught up in a life of Hollywood luxury, you can relate. He turned to scamming when he could no longer afford his lifestyle. Fair. But when he took on the faces of priests, company executives, and a psychiatrist, he sought to prove that he was just as good as his fake jobs as he was at scamming. So he really committed. He was like, yeah, I am a fake priest, but listen, y'all gonna get these wafers and these prayers. I'mma dunk these babies super hard.

• 24:23Speaker 06

  You're gonna make these donations.

• 24:24Laci Mosley?

  Okay, give me your baby, let me put him in this water juice, okay? You want him to have soul? The faith dealer, yeah, slinging them fates, look at him. Okay, he gets priest, it's giving priest. These spectacles with no rims. That's giving like, I read books.

• 24:40Speaker 06

  He's very studious.

• 24:41Laci Mosley?

  He was like, I did the Bible cover to cover. Old and new?

• 24:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's read the Bible, got some great passages that he uses every day.

• 24:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he's like, let me drop these on him, fire, okay? Mark, open up the book of Mark, this is about to be lit in this bitch.

• 24:54Speaker 06

  And it was crazy, like, he looks trustworthy, like, you would trust him. He looks like, he looks, he looks like-

• 24:59Laci Mosley?

  I wouldn't look at him twice, you're right about that.

• 25:01Speaker 06

  You wouldn't, you wouldn't, he'd be unsuspected, like, oh, you're scamming me, I didn't know.

• 25:04Laci Mosley?

  Right, I didn't even see you when you came in.

• 25:06Speaker 06

  But the thing is, it's those motherfuckers.

• 25:08Laci Mosley?

  It is, they're the best. Cause you don't see him coming, you're not looking at this guy like-

• 25:12Speaker 06

  You're not, you're not caring, you're like, alright, whatever this guy's talking about.

• 25:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he reached into my pocket and took my wallet, but I thought he needed something with it.

• 25:17Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he just said he needed to verify my ID before I came in the church, and I was like, okay, amen.

• 25:22Speaker 06

  My sister, used to, when she called, when she first moved to LA, she would, used to go in my wallet, pick up my credit card, she's like, can I just look at something in the back of your credit card? I just, I forgot something, I was like-

• 25:31Laci Mosley?

  Not the CVV?

• 25:31Speaker 06

  I was like, get the fuck out of here.

• 25:35Laci Mosley?

  Can I take a selfie with your credit card? That's all, I just wanna create memories. Just a little selfie.

• 25:41Speaker 06

  My sister is hilarious.

• 25:42Laci Mosley?

  Love that for your sister, and she live a good, love that for your sister, bless, she came up on you. So, in the beginning, Frederick Brito was born in Los Angeles, California, in 1955. He was raised alongside five brothers and a sister in a small house. Yeah, you got a lot of siblings, you gotta learn, you gotta get a job.

• 26:00Speaker 06

  You gotta learn how to make it.

• 26:01Laci Mosley?

  So, at age twenty-

• 26:01Speaker 06

  Was he a middle child, or was he, where does he fall?

• 26:04Laci Mosley?

  So, he has five brothers and a sister, I don't know where he falls in the age rank, but I don't think he's the oldest. So, that's a lot, that's like, six other siblings, that's a house of seven.

• 26:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 26:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you gotta do crime, that's, that's too many mouths to feed.

• 26:15Speaker 06

  There's too many mouths to feed, you're looking at mom and dad, figuring out, oh, they can't support us all, let me handle it on this side.

• 26:20Laci Mosley?

  And five brothers, you know they was making the boys get employed for sure.

• 26:23Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:23Laci Mosley?

  You know, the one sister might have been the one taking pictures with people's credit cards, CVVs, you know? So, at age twenty, he was drawn to the Hollywood nightclub scene of the mid-seventies. He's not giving Hollywood nightclub, at least from the photo that we saw, it wasn't giving, like, Studio 54, but you know, maybe he had more hair then.

• 26:40Speaker 06

  Could, could be, but then again, it's like, he looks like he went bald early.

• 26:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it is giving, like, he was like, twenty-two, and the hairs were just leaving.

• 26:47Speaker 06

  Twenty-two, just falling out. And he, like, tried to keep it with, like, a comb over it.

• 26:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, cause he had the little back, he was doing the booty.

• 26:53Speaker 06

  He had all the hair back there.

• 26:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 26:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, he had all the hair back there, so he was literally combing it over the top.

• 26:58Laci Mosley?

  He's like, I just have a very deep part that's the whole middle of my head. It's a side part. It's just like a lot of side, a lot of part. So.

• 27:08Speaker 06

  He probably had a Jerry curl.

• 27:10Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I mean, maybe.

• 27:11Speaker 06

  He probably, he probably wore one.

• 27:13Laci Mosley?

  He kinda is giving like he was doing something when he had.

• 27:15Speaker 06

  Big curls.

• 27:16Laci Mosley?

  It was here that Fred became close friends with later roommates, the actor Paul Lynn, best known for his TV roles on Bewitched and The Hollywood Squares. According to Fred, he became accustomed to a more luxurious life, because he knew the Hollywood Squares niggas, so they was doing Hollywood Square activity.

• 27:31Speaker 06

  Exactly, he was hanging out with him.

• 27:32Laci Mosley?

  Driving Mercedes Benz's, living in the Hollywood Hills, going to Beverly Hills restaurants, doing all the things that movie stars would do. Yeah, he was that girl.

• 27:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:41Laci Mosley?

  He was like, do you need a friend, um, Mr. Bewitched? Who you going to the, uh, to the, and you know, Mr. Bewitched looked like he still had all his hair, so maybe he was like, let me bring my bald friend.

• 27:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, so it's like.

• 27:51Laci Mosley?

  So I look like I'm more of a baddie.

• 27:52Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 27:54Laci Mosley?

  By comparison. But when he grew older, he was cast off as Paul's favorite chosen one, as he grew older and his life of the Hollywood luxury like abruptly ended. So it sounds like as soon as that hair started to dip out.

• 28:07Speaker 06

  Everything else dipped out too.

• 28:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's sad.

• 28:09Speaker 06

  That sucks.

• 28:10Laci Mosley?

  They're like, get out of here, aging person. This is Hollywood.

• 28:14Speaker 06

  We only want young, vibrant people.

• 28:16Laci Mosley?

  Right, he should have got a wig. Just get you a wig, Fred, and keep, and keep turning up. So with no place to live, oh damn Fred, you were really out here scamming, not you living in somebody's house, being in the entourage.

• 28:28Speaker 06

  Sheesh.

• 28:29Laci Mosley?

  Fred moved back in with his parents. Now Fred.

• 28:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, his turn, this turn, that was a turn. That's sad.

• 28:35Laci Mosley?

  You gotta get your coins up when you have a situation like that. You can't just be getting free dinners. Like, at least get some coins on the side or like.

• 28:41Speaker 06

  Exactly, like side hustle. Like, what you doing?

• 28:43Laci Mosley?

  Get a Bewitched check. I don't know, be a P A. Come on, come on and fluff his mustache.

• 28:48Speaker 06

  Be his assistant. Like, what are you doing?

• 28:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, get a check. So he moved back in with his parents. Fred was forced to get a job for the first time in his life to pay for the lifestyle he had become accustomed to. Fred was not given that much of a bad bitch to be living like this free. He must got a good personality.

• 29:03Speaker 06

  You know.

• 29:04Laci Mosley?

  So however, it was never enough. And while he was working at a bank, he stole a thousand dollars worth of traveler's checks, his first federal crime. So he, a thousand dollars worth of traveler's checks. Did he steal like? A bunch of traveler's checks, or did he like, write checks like going up to a thousand dollars? It says, "He was working at a bank and he stole a thousand dollars' worth of traveler's checks, his first federal crime. He was arrested and sentenced to jail. When he was released, Fred immediately violated his parole by skipping town to start a new life in Vancouver."

• 29:35Speaker 06

  Mmm. Skip town, stole some checks, tried to, and thought it was gonna be, set him up for life.

• 29:43Laci Mosley?

  And it's like the seventies, so that's back when you were still paying for like, checks at the grocery store. Imagine like, giving anybody now, like, a piece of paper and being like, "This is money."

• 29:51Speaker 06

  They're like, "What? What's this?"

• 29:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, no, no, this is money. I'm gonna take the things right now, but you got this piece of paper that says, "This is money." You good?

• 29:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, like, no, nothing now. Nowadays, nothing takes cash.

• 30:03Laci Mosley?

  I miss check fraud. I really think I would've been good at that.

• 30:06Speaker 06

  Check fraud?

• 30:06Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:06Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 30:07Laci Mosley?

  I would've paid for everything in checks.

• 30:09Speaker 06

  Well, you there, you could.

• 30:10Laci Mosley?

  Go to the gas station, buy a pack of gum, check.

• 30:12Speaker 06

  I almost incriminated myself.

• 30:20Laci Mosley?

  Fred, so several crimes later, Fred once again found himself behind bars in Bernaby, British Columbia. So now you done got arrested in two different countries, okay.

• 30:31Speaker 06

  This guy.

• 30:31Laci Mosley?

  You gotta stop getting picked up.

• 30:32Speaker 06

  He's a bad criminal, that's what he is.

• 30:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, do better.

• 30:34Speaker 06

  He doesn't, hm, he doesn't know what he's doing.

• 30:36Laci Mosley?

  So Fred explained why he kept committing crimes after he left Hollywood. He says, "I was in the fast lane, and all of a sudden now I'm in the slow lane, on the soft shoulder, in a sense. And I wanted to be in the fast lane, and I would've done anything to get back in the fast lane."

• 30:49Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 30:50Laci Mosley?

  He said, "Bitch, now, I'm not even in the cul-de-sac, I'm over here on the..."

• 30:54Speaker 06

  I'm over here on the side of the highway.

• 30:56Laci Mosley?

  Right, and he was like, "I was just trying to get back in that left lane, y'all understand? And once I lost that hair, nobody was trying to fuck with me."

• 31:03Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 31:04Laci Mosley?

  That's sad.

• 31:04Speaker 06

  R.I.P.

• 31:05Laci Mosley?

  So in order to get back in the fast lane, Fred would rent luxury cars and never return them to where he rented them from.

• 31:11Speaker 06

  Wow, and you could get away with that back in the day, like, where they gonna find you?

• 31:16Laci Mosley?

  Especially when you're not black or a person of color, they're like, "Yeah, get Fred this, uh, Lambo."

• 31:21Speaker 06

  He was running out, you know?

• 31:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, Lambo Fred, yeah, no, he can have it, no.

• 31:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's good.

• 31:27Laci Mosley?

  So by the time he was in his...

• 31:28Speaker 06

  That's that privilege, that's that privilege.

• 31:30Laci Mosley?

  Cause for us, they'd be like, "Okay, we need a blood sample."

• 31:32Speaker 06

  I'm gonna need to check all your IDs.

• 31:34Laci Mosley?

  We need four relatives to come down here and vouch for you and put their houses up as collateral.

• 31:38Speaker 06

  Big facts.

• 31:39Laci Mosley?

  All for you to rent the scar. So by the time he was in his mid twenties, he had, he was a five-time convicted felon.

• 31:45Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 31:47Laci Mosley?

  That's, that's excellence. He worked really hard, okay? He's in his twenties.

• 31:52Speaker 06

  He worked fi- in his twenty-five times?

• 31:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they know him at the jailhouse. He was like, can I get my old bed? Can I get my old bed when I come back? And y'all had that rotten ready for me.

• 32:01Speaker 06

  Oh my god. Have you, have you ever been around like convicted, like serial criminals like?

• 32:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 32:07Speaker 06

  Them motherfuckers, I'm like, why are you like this?

• 32:10Laci Mosley?

  Cause that's their business.

• 32:11Speaker 06

  It's like, why are you like this?

• 32:11Laci Mosley?

  That's their profession. What do you mean leave crime? This is what I do for a living. It's my passion.

• 32:15Speaker 06

  I remember one time I got, I got bagged up and I was gonna get processed. And I was sitting there like, y'all are just dumb as hell. This one dude was like, yo, where you going? Yo, I'm about to get transferred to, um, like Norfolk. Alright, yo, I'ma stay here tonight for the Christmas, so if you could give me your hoodie, that way, and then you also.

• 32:33Laci Mosley?

  And then I'll see you when I get booked over there.

• 32:35Speaker 06

  And what cell block should I stay in? I'm like, are you serious?

• 32:38Laci Mosley?

  I heard D ain't doing too good right now. They said the pipes leaking. Yeah, yeah, you don't wanna be in D block right now.

• 32:43Speaker 06

  Yo, B and C, alright, C. C, cell twenty-four, alright? I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

• 32:49Laci Mosley?

  And I mean, a lot of it isn't our fault, like, it's just, it's just slavery, but like, they put a little cute little label on it and do it. Like, there should be no private prison. How you gonna be like, oh, I'm getting involved in prison? Yeah, no, I made a new jail for everybody. We, we can't wait to get some inmates, hoping people get processed soon.

• 33:04Speaker 06

  Exactly. Locking people up for drugs that are illegal now.

• 33:07Laci Mosley?

  Working very hard with the police to get as many people into our hot new prison as possible, okay? We making the best license plates.

• 33:14Speaker 06

  Three hots and a cot.

• 33:14Laci Mosley?

  Okay? Yeah, so it's all a scam. So however, spending that much time in the legal system started to give Fred enough information to lead him to a whole new level of crime. So he got in there and he worked on himself. He said, I got arrested too many times. I really need to step my shit up. I really need to start crime better. So he got an education.

• 33:30Speaker 06

  Makes sense.

• 33:31Laci Mosley?

  He got his BA in burglary, you know, why not? So by sitting through many of his own trials and hearings, Fred learned vocabulary used by the court-appointed psychiatrist. He put this to the test one day, coincidentally waiting for his own case to be heard. Fred pretended to be a psychiatrist at a hearing of his friends and convinced the judge to release the defendant, his friend, into the psychiatrist's custody, AKA complete freedom.

• 33:55Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 33:57Laci Mosley?

  So he started working at Bald. He was like, okay, I'm not a Hollywood baddie anymore, but this Bald is giving.

• 34:02Speaker 06

  It's giving me distinguished, it's giving me, I've done things before.

• 34:05Laci Mosley?

  I'm learned, I know psychiatry, okay, patient, client, uh, substance, SSRIs. He just started just like.

• 34:14Speaker 06

  What a second life with no hair.

• 34:16Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 34:16Speaker 06

  Go ahead.

• 34:17Laci Mosley?

  He learned how to pivot, cuz he got a bald psychiatrist, I'm believing him in court.

• 34:20Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 34:21Laci Mosley?

  He got a brown suit on, I'm like, oh yeah, extra believable, love it. So by 1985, Fred was a 32-year-old jailbird and decided it was time to turn a new leaf. He moved with his parents to Lancaster, California and created and became Mark Esparsa.

• 34:36Speaker 06

  Hmm, wait, I know this name.

• 34:39Laci Mosley?

  You do?

• 34:39Speaker 06

  Mark Esparsa, keep reading?

• 34:42Laci Mosley?

  So Mark was everything Fred wasn't, a successful man with no criminal record and a job as a small government employee. So he just rebranded, he was like, I'm not Fred no more, Fred got priors, I'm Mark now.

• 34:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 34:53Laci Mosley?

  And Mark lives a clean life, okay?

• 34:55Speaker 06

  Clean life.

• 34:56Laci Mosley?

  He began attending city council meetings so much that he attracted the attention of Lancaster's mayor, Fred Hahn, who offered Mark a position as city commissioner.

• 35:05Speaker 06

  What?

• 35:07Laci Mosley?

  That's just showing up to the community functions and it was like, I don't know, we put him in government, he be here a lot. Every, every time we had that Punch, uh, Punch Thursday, you know Mark gonna be there.

• 35:16Speaker 06

  Remember that, remember that video that was online where the lady was fake sign language?

• 35:19Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I love her.

• 35:21Speaker 06

  That's ain't a goddamn thing, everybody's watching.

• 35:24Laci Mosley?

  She was throwing up game signs, just like, no, she just says Southside Crips, what, no, that's not sign language. No, she just did a body roll, y'all, I don't think that was a part of the debriefing.

• 35:37Speaker 06

  She was in there like this, like.

• 35:39Laci Mosley?

  No, guys, she's dancing.

• 35:42Laci Mosley?

  She just hit the whoa, that's not what the police commissioner said, what is she doing? She's doing the nay-nay, guys, that's not American sign language, we know that.

• 35:51Speaker 06

  Is she doing a TikTok dance?

• 35:53Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 35:53Speaker 06

  What she doing?

• 35:55Laci Mosley?

  She said, I'm a savage, classy, bougie, ratchet, guys, no, we're talking about the fire down at the. We're talking about the fire down in the neighborhood. And she's up here dancing. Yeah, that was Mark. He was like, I showed up enough that they were like, I don't know, this guy, city commissioner, he's here a lot. So technically Fred was still on parole, but through Mark, he could do some genuine good, helping the disenfranchised.

• 36:18Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 36:20Laci Mosley?

  However, Fred's new life as a do-gooder eventually crumbled when he couldn't stop getting up to his old tricks, of course.

• 36:26Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 36:26Laci Mosley?

  He was never trying to do no good.

• 36:27Speaker 06

  Old tricks die hard.

• 36:28Laci Mosley?

  They do. He was forced to leave Lancaster in shame after he held a press conference announcing that President Reagan had appointed him to a position at the White House.

• 36:37Speaker 06

  What?

• 36:38Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 36:39Speaker 06

  This man has no bounds.

• 36:41Laci Mosley?

  No bounds.

• 36:42Speaker 06

  Does whatever he wants.

• 36:43Laci Mosley?

  He said, no, I met Reagan on the acting set. I met his wife Nancy too, got that Nancy and then, um. Yeah, no, I'm going to the White House. Yeah, they got a whole wing for me. I'm, uh.

• 36:54Speaker 06

  I am the appointed secretary of the president.

• 36:58Laci Mosley?

  I'm the secretary of things. So when things need to be done.

• 37:00Speaker 06

  I'm the secretary of funny games.

• 37:02Laci Mosley?

  Shenanigans. I'm the new head secretary of shenanigans in the cabinet, and that's what I do. So this was categorically untrue and easily disproved. So he was just on there saying anything. So Fred then landed in Albuquerque, New Mexico. This time he began, he became Mark Gomez, an advocate for the poor. Right. Then he started cooking myths. No, not yet. We'll see. But, um, Mark Gomez, why does he keep choosing these like Latino last names?

• 37:30Speaker 06

  Can you post a picture up again? You know, nothing like Latino. Why would, why would anybody believe that?

• 37:35Laci Mosley?

  It wasn't given a sparsa either.

• 37:37Speaker 06

  No.

• 37:37Laci Mosley?

  I mean, he is a little olive skinned. You know, hey, there are, there are a lot of white Latinos. I'm like, you know, it's working. So he's an advocate for the poor. Now, what I don't like about this is that he's working in spaces where there are underprivileged people or people who need assistance and help. And so he's kind of skulking by because nobody's paying that much attention to the needs of poor people. So they're definitely not paying attention to if the person has a real name or if they're Fred, the five-time convicted felon.

• 38:04Speaker 06

  Doing the job, like. They don't care.

• 38:05Laci Mosley?

  They don't care.

• 38:06Speaker 06

  We'll just throw anybody in that position and see what happens.

• 38:09Laci Mosley?

  Right, and then we'll announce that publicly like, "Look y'all, we got a commissioner of poor things. He gonna help y'all."

• 38:14Speaker 06

  And he's from them, their community.

• 38:16Laci Mosley?

  Right, don't even worry about what he do, but he here to do things for y'all. Like what?

• 38:20Speaker 06

  Scam.

• 38:20Laci Mosley?

  So Mark did such a good job that Bernalio County Board Commissioners in Albuquerque received numerous letters commending his work, so they say he was doing a good job.

• 38:29Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 38:30Laci Mosley?

  From buying a family a car.

• 38:32Speaker 06

  Was they commending his work, or was he writing his own letters back to the commission and letting them know that he was taking care of everybody?

• 38:38Laci Mosley?

  He sits at home every night after work and he's like, "Hello, me. I am a poor from Albuquerque Central, and I just want to say that Mark, what's my last name right now? Gomez is a good dude, give him more money, he's really helping the pores, me, a poor."

• 38:54Speaker 06

  Have you ever did that?

• 38:55Laci Mosley?

  Sincerely a poor.

• 38:56Speaker 06

  Have you ever called casting on behalf of yourself as somebody else?

• 39:02Laci Mosley?

  No, I have not. And now I wish I had. Hey, have y'all seen Lacey Moses though? She's really killing it in that role, y'all should really hit her up.

• 39:09Speaker 06

  You guys should really call. I've done that before. "Hey, how's it going? My name is, uh, Ray, Rayvon. Hey, I'm calling on behalf of Jai Lee, and he's trying to do this, but well, I'm like, alright, cool. Let's just send it all through." Alright, no problem.

• 39:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they said y'all wanted to see him. Oh, we haven't heard that, no, yeah, they say y'all has said, so...

• 39:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's coming in a little bit, he's very excited, he's been preparing all day.

• 39:31Laci Mosley?

  Very sexy, very talented, and so y'all should really, like, when y'all see him, just hop on it. Before he's gone, everybody's, everybody's calling. Hey, I'm not mad at it, that's a good scam, you know what I mean? So, people were writing letters, people, we don't, we don't know these people.

• 39:48Speaker 06

  I don't think these people were writing, I think he was writing his own letters.

• 39:50Laci Mosley?

  So from buying a family a car so their father could get to work, to paying rent for a family in need. So they were like, he done bought us a car, he paying that rent, you know, getting that light bill after the holidays.

• 40:03Speaker 06

  What he did was, he wrote a check from the government to himself, and then he wrote a letter to the government saying that he helped the family in need, and he was that family in need.

• 40:12Laci Mosley?

  He was a family in need.

• 40:13Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 40:16Laci Mosley?

  Oh my goodness.

• 40:17Speaker 06

  That man is a mastermind.

• 40:18Laci Mosley?

  I mean, he was in need of coins. Who's to say who's not in need?

• 40:22Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 40:22Laci Mosley?

  You know, so Fred's life as Mark Gomez, local hero, wasn't discovered to be a lie until nearly ten years later. He kept this group going for ten years.

• 40:32Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 40:32Laci Mosley?

  When a reporter informed the Bernilio County Board of Commissioners that it was all an act. Now, this reporter is a hater, okay? You did, look.

• 40:39Speaker 06

  That reporter was looking for a story and she found it.

• 40:42Laci Mosley?

  She did. And did, and they did, he did. We don't know, we don't know the gender. But I love this for them. However, while Fred was busy posing as a saint to the public, he continued to collect grand theft charges through the nineties. So he said, Mark is a public servant, Fred is a public menace.

• 41:00Speaker 06

  This man was Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

• 41:02Laci Mosley?

  And Mr. Hyde. For several months, he also lived with an order of Norbitine priests in Albuquerque, likely to escape theft charges. So he was also living in the priesthood.

• 41:13Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 41:13Laci Mosley?

  And look, we got a photo. Look at them giving priests.

• 41:16Speaker 06

  Are you kidding me?

• 41:17Laci Mosley?

  Look at those fits.

• 41:17Speaker 06

  Hold on, where's he at? Is he in the middle?

• 41:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, uh, let me, where is his ass at? Okay, he's not, he's not in this photo, but this is a photo of like priests, like this is what he was giving. He was wearing the priest drip, he was wearing that holy couture.

• 41:30Speaker 06

  That's crazy.

• 41:31Laci Mosley?

  Holy couture. And I love that for him.

• 41:33Speaker 06

  Big hustle.

• 41:34Laci Mosley?

  Big hustle. Ain't nobody coming and doing a raid at the church house.

• 41:37Speaker 06

  Exactly. We're not checking for nobody there.

• 41:39Laci Mosley?

  In between mass, everybody standing up and sitting down, and he's, the fans are busting through? No.

• 41:45Speaker 06

  You know how crazy that would be if someone literally just busted through the front door of the church? And in search of him, like they raided the whole spot? That'd be insane.

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  We getting our communion wafers and then all of us sipping on the same wine.

• 41:57Speaker 06

  A biopic of this guy and figure it out. That's crazy.

• 42:01Laci Mosley?

  So he told them.

• 42:02Speaker 06

  He is the talented Mr. Ripley.

• 42:03Laci Mosley?

  He is. He told them that he was almost finished with seminary training and was interested in joining the religious order. But after trying to call said seminary, the Norbitines discovered it didn't exist and his records were falsified. Fred asked to leave immediately. So they were like, hey, we called the seminary and it's actually a target? Like they said, this is, oh, okay, well, you know what? I actually have to go right now. Let me get my shit. No, he's running away.

• 42:28Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 42:29Laci Mosley?

  You just hear his car skirting out of the parking lot. So Fred eventually left New Mexico and after a small $600 embezzlement stint in Los Angeles. Just a little bit.

• 42:39Speaker 06

  Yo, someone lock this man up, he doesn't learn his lesson. Put this nigga under the jail, what the hell?

• 42:44Laci Mosley?

  Why are y'all letting him handle anybody's money?

• 42:46Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 42:47Laci Mosley?

  And he's like, "I volunteer to be treasurer." Who treasurer did you treasurer?

• 42:50Speaker 06

  It was crazy, like, thing is, you could possibly, you could really get away with all this stuff because there was no technology back then.

• 42:54Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 42:55Speaker 06

  So you could literally do whatever you wanted.

• 42:57Laci Mosley?

  And this is like the 90s, like, ain't that when they had them computers from Ghost with the green letters and shit? You could just be stealing anything at this time.

• 43:04Speaker 06

  Oh my god, they didn't even have no ASL, no AIM, no nothing.

• 43:07Laci Mosley?

  I don't think 600 qualifies as embezzlement. That's a big word for $600. Like, you just stole $600. Embezzlement, you gotta be at least in the thousands. So he resurfaced in 2002 at the Immaculate Conception Parish in Yuma, Arizona, as Father Federico B. Gomez de Esparza de Latino.

• 43:26Speaker 06

  Father Federico.

• 43:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh no, okay.

• 43:29Speaker 06

  It looks like a video. Is that the mouse on it? Oh, that's the mouse.

• 43:32Laci Mosley?

  Is he holding a baby? Okay, so he's holding the Chalice of Communion wine. He was like, "Y'all come up here and get lit for the Lord. Y'all sip on this blood, okay? If only it was the blood." He was like, "Oh, wrong, wrong religion, wrong, uh, subsect, okay." But, so he was out here giving the girls, getting them lit for, for Jesus. So Father Federico, this is at a wedding that we're looking at. He presided over baptisms, he was dunking the babies in the water, confessions, getting all the teeth. Babies ain't getting saved at all.

• 44:01Speaker 06

  They ain't getting saved at all.

• 44:02Laci Mosley?

  They said, "Federico, we just saw you put Evian in there. We thought this was holy water." No, no, no, it is. I got to just bless it. Evian's still holy water, hold on. He was on confessions, weddings, so what if you got married by a non-ordained priest?

• 44:14Speaker 06

  So you're literally not really married. So that's a way out.

• 44:17Laci Mosley?

  That's a way out. If you, if Federico married y'all, y'all get out of there and don't get your money up. And by all accounts, did a fantastic job. Everyone was pleased. They're like, "He's dunking the babies the best."

• 44:29Speaker 06

  He did his homework.

• 44:30Laci Mosley?

  Right, the confessions are confessioning. He up there like, "Wor, really? You cheated on your wife? That's crazy."

• 44:35Speaker 06

  And that's like four Hail Marys, you're good to go.

• 44:37Laci Mosley?

  Now, get out of here, King. Yeah, just for Hail Marys. But I killed someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just go, go in.

• 44:42Speaker 06

  It's okay. You're all forgiven.

• 44:44Laci Mosley?

  You're good. God just told me right now, he texted me and says, "You're good." So, love it. About a month into his stay, Father Federico visited Mexico and upon his return was flagged for an outstanding grand theft warrant involving the $600 embezzlement.

• 44:58Speaker 06

  Wow, grand theft, $600?

• 45:00Laci Mosley?

  How you get grand theft for $600?

• 45:02Speaker 06

  That ain't shit.

• 45:03Laci Mosley?

  That's a really petty person who was like, "No, we, we want a felony. We want a... Can we get him on America's Most Wanted? No, America's Most Wanted has standards and $600 is not it." No, no, listen, hear me out.

• 45:13Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. $600?

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  So somehow he was able to talk his way out of an arrest by convincing officials they were actually after his twin brother.

• 45:22Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 45:23Laci Mosley?

  So more Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde. He was like, "No, that's not me. Look at me. I got this collar on. I got a baby back here and I'm finna baptize in 20 minutes. Y'all holding me up."

• 45:30Speaker 06

  Yo, this dude is out of control.

• 45:33Laci Mosley?

  He's diabolical.

• 45:34Speaker 06

  He must be stopped. Where, how's the story end?

• 45:38Laci Mosley?

  We, we, listen, we'll get there, but I, but I, we know enough about him that obviously he got booked several, several times.

• 45:45Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, for sure.

• 45:46Laci Mosley?

  Like, he knew everybody when he came into the jailhouse. He's like, "Oh, what's up, Sandra? How your kids doing?"

• 45:50Speaker 06

  Oh, you back again? I'm doing all right, man. I'll be out here in about two weeks.

• 45:53Laci Mosley?

  Just a little embezzle bezel or whatever, you know. It ain't nothing. It ain't no thing. I'll probably get a fine. They having Pizza Tuesday tonight? I don't know. Like, he's like, very much...

• 46:03Speaker 06

  He's a, he's a curvy one that gets locked up only during the winter, so he can stay in with the kids.

• 46:07Laci Mosley?

  Right. He was like, "He'd be high in the winter. That's when I go to jail, okay?" You know, because I got to put that permit on. So, he knew that they would soon catch up to him, so he quickly left in the middle of the night to go to Phoenix, where he lived as a traveling priest at two parishes. And the way they shuffle priests around, you know, that's an easy job. Frank continued to preside over all priestly duties until U.S. Marshals finally caught up to him and arrested him. He mid-mass, putting wafers in people's mouths and they like... Hands up! Put the wafers down!

• 46:39Speaker 06

  I can just see him busting through the door as he's about to feed someone a wafer.

• 46:42Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 46:42Speaker 06

  Give him the wine.

• 46:43Laci Mosley?

  The father and they're like, father?

• 46:46Speaker 06

  Holy father.

• 46:46Laci Mosley?

  Put your hands up. Touch the sky. Dance bitch. No, oh no. So Father Frederico was sentenced to sixteen months in state prison on embezzlement charges devastating a number of couples whom he had recently married.

• 46:59Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 47:01Laci Mosley?

  So they saw that their priest was going to the clink. How embarrassing. He in all the photos.

• 47:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's such a good person.

• 47:09Laci Mosley?

  They're like, hey.

• 47:09Speaker 06

  And there were probably character witnesses for him too.

• 47:11Laci Mosley?

  Right. They're like, he married us real good. He was very fatherly. Felt like my father. Also, I just think sixteen months in state prison for embezzling sixteen, six hundred dollars is bullshit because it costs so much to house prisoners.

• 47:22Speaker 06

  He should have been in jail a long time ago, so it's okay.

• 47:24Laci Mosley?

  It costs more to house him than the six hundred that he embezzled.

• 47:26Speaker 06

  That's true. That's true. But the thing is though, it's not even about the six hundred. It's about the series of crimes he's did before that he got away with. Literally, that's what it's about.

• 47:33Laci Mosley?

  For me, it's about the six hundred. So in the years following his release, Fred scammed his way.

• 47:38Speaker 06

  Feel bad for Fred.

• 47:39Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I don't know.

• 47:41Speaker 06

  Let's not feel bad for Fred. Fred has been scamming the system for decades.

• 47:45Laci Mosley?

  Okay, but Fred was out here hitting them babies with the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.

• 47:48Speaker 06

  I get it. Alright.

• 47:49Laci Mosley?

  You know, he got a family, a car, maybe. Potentially, he got them a car.

• 47:55Speaker 06

  Or did he get himself a new one? I thought he got that grand, that grand theft charge next.

• 47:59Laci Mosley?

  Right. So Fred, in the years following his release, Fred scammed his way into positions as executive director at the National Kidney Foundation of Southern California.

• 48:09Speaker 06

  How is he still working? This makes no sense. Like, how is nobody stopping you or figuring this out? Your mugshot should be everywhere. Literally everywhere.

• 48:18Laci Mosley?

  There's jobs that they're not, they're not as competitive probably. He was a youth director, or for, a director for a youth center, deputy director at the Western Law Center for Disability Rights, and a fundraiser for both the Red Cross and UCLA.

• 48:31Speaker 06

  Check. I'm telling you right now, for a nigga to get a job as a janitor somewhere, they're literally gonna do background check of the background check. This man was a priest got locked up. He was, he was a counselor got locked up. He was a city official got locked up. Like, how is this man still getting jobs?

• 48:46Laci Mosley?

  Cause like, not checking him. They're like, I don't know. He raises money for the Red Cross.

• 48:49Speaker 06

  It's called white privilege.

• 48:51Laci Mosley?

  Literally, and I think it's that bald. When you see a man with a bald head like that, you're not thinking he been in jail that much.

• 48:57Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 48:58Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean?

• 48:59Speaker 06

  Especially if you.

• 48:59Laci Mosley?

  Look at him, we keep bringing this photo back up. But it's not giving prison, you know?

• 49:04Speaker 06

  No, it's not. It's giving distinguished. It's giving I've done, I have educated young minds.

• 49:08Laci Mosley?

  Why would I do crime with this much bald? You know, he's like, crime is for men with hair, okay? I'm bald, I help the community. So though he was fired or left most of these positions for unknown reasons, we know why. People probably started being like, um. Fred continued to be recognized for his good work. He raised over a million dollars for Hurricane Katrina victims with his team in Pasadena.

• 49:32Speaker 06

  Oh my God.

• 49:33Laci Mosley?

  That was back in Kanye was saying George Bush don't care about black people, but Fred did.

• 49:36Speaker 06

  Fred did, I guess.

• 49:38Laci Mosley?

  Right, I don't know.

• 49:39Speaker 06

  Fred literally took a cut off the top. He took 10% off the top.

• 49:42Laci Mosley?

  He was like, one for you, one for me, black people, two for you, five for me. But they got a little bit of it, I guess. He was recognized for his ability to draw donations from Hollywood celebrities and for important research at UCLA. So he still was hobnobbing.

• 49:56Speaker 06

  He's still working those resources, still working those contacts.

• 49:59Laci Mosley?

  Right. Fred said, in quotes, "Every job I've had, whether I got it legally or illegally, I busted my buns for those jobs." He said, "Look, I may have not been qualified and perhaps I was a 10-time convicted thief, but I was really helping the girls when I got the job."

• 50:14Speaker 06

  That's wild.

• 50:15Laci Mosley?

  I mean, that sounds good to me. So in 2005, the LA Times published a detailed profile on Fred's exploits on the front page. After a waning job performance prompted an internet search, he was fired a month later from his most recent position at the Red Cross. Now, the Red Cross be having their own.

• 50:32Speaker 06

  The Red Cross is a scam itself. They stole all this money from Haiti during the earthquake. I'm like.

• 50:39Laci Mosley?

  We always say donate local. If there's a natural disaster, like the Red Cross will immediately start to like, hey, girls.

• 50:44Speaker 06

  Hey, what's up? What's going on?

• 50:46Laci Mosley?

  It's us, the Red Cross. No, no, no, we don't need no blood, we don't need no blood. Cash, though. Cash is really gonna get the blood where we need it to go. So can y'all give that to us right now?

• 50:54Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 50:55Laci Mosley?

  Look at the cross, it's red. Y'all know we helping.

• 50:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, the Red Cross.

• 50:59Laci Mosley?

  Who, who, wait, who, who got the tragedy? Uh, Florida, Florida, that's where, that's where the money gonna go.

• 51:03Speaker 06

  Exactly, right, right. Oh, you know, Ukraine's in trouble right now.

• 51:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we sending it over there.

• 51:09Speaker 06

  We're gonna send it, oh Haiti, they, they don't have no water right now. Let's go send them, send this over to them, like, right.

• 51:14Laci Mosley?

  Puerto Rico, y'all didn't see Trump throwing them paper towels? We bought the paper towels for him to throw at people. That was us, okay?

• 51:22Speaker 06

  Red Cross will be calling.

• 51:24Laci Mosley?

  That was us, the Red Cross had purchased all of that, okay? Listen, uh, we all know. In 2006, he was hired as the executive director of the New Mexico Performing Arts Academy in Las Cruces under a fake name and was fired shortly after when his real identity was discovered. He's still, he's done really well in New Mexico.

• 51:43Speaker 06

  He's, he's been crushing.

• 51:45Laci Mosley?

  Like, if y'all wanna have a fake identity, these must be the places to go because the girls aren't checking. They're like, look, we don't have lawns, we don't water our grass, we, we.

• 51:52Speaker 06

  We're not checking for nobody.

• 51:53Laci Mosley?

  We're not checking for nothing.

• 51:54Speaker 06

  We're like, whatever you want, we take you as you are.

• 51:57Laci Mosley?

  Right, come as you are, New Mexico, that's the, that's the, that's the branding.

• 52:01Speaker 06

  That's the slogan, come as you are.

• 52:03Laci Mosley?

  Come as you are, okay? Or who you're not, come as you aren't. We will also expect, we will respect that as well, come as you aren't, we won't check. So during the following years, Fred appeared on several primetime shows such as Dateline and The Dr. Phil Show where he was confronted by a couple that he married.

• 52:19Speaker 06

  Ooh.

• 52:20Laci Mosley?

  Dr. Phil's like, we ain't gonna stop lying about being a priest. He's like, we got a family here who said that you married them and they won't talk to you. Me, a therapist and not a scammer that Oprah gave a platform to. Without Dr. Phil, we wouldn't have Bad Baby, you know?

• 52:37Speaker 06

  God bless.

• 52:38Laci Mosley?

  Contributions to the world, Dr. Phil, yelling at people. I'll never forget when he was yelling at people who were addicted to crack, talking about, stop smoking crack!

• 52:46Laci Mosley?

  That was his solution.

• 52:47Speaker 06

  Alright, awesome, great, you know what? I'm kicking the habit, I'm finished.

• 52:50Laci Mosley?

  Why was I smoking crack in the first place, Dr. Phil? You are right, let me put this, here, you want the pipe? Let me just go ahead and leave that here.

• 52:56Speaker 06

  You know what? I did bring something with me, but you know what? Since you said something, I'mma just put it away.

• 53:00Laci Mosley?

  You know, no one's ever said it to me like that before. Stop smoking crack, wow, I'm illuminated.

• 53:05Laci Mosley?

  Like what? This man is a hack. So this is just scammers and scammers working together. So a couple came on. He also created a blog and for a brief time, a company offering services. And we have a little video. He has services to educate clients about con men and how to spot them. Now, I don't know. This seems like it's coming from an informed place. He was like, let me warn y'all about me.

• 53:23Speaker 06

  You know what it reminds me of? Remember the Leonardo DiCaprio movie?

• 53:28Laci Mosley?

  Caprio again, yeah.

• 53:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's what it reminds me of right now.

• 53:30Laci Mosley?

  It does. Let's see a little bit of this PSA that he's got, warning people about himself.

• 53:35Speaker 11

  All over the world, people are being hired to some of the highest positions at some of America's well-known corporations. Do you know who you're hiring? That's the question that you should really be asking yourself when you actually give the keys to this one individual that you have hired to become the CEO or president of your corporation. Hi, this is Fred Brito and I'm coming to you from the Fred Brito Company in Las Cruces, New Mexico. And I want to share with you today the importance of hiring the right person to key positions within your organization. Now, far too many times when we hire somebody, we're looking at their cover letter and we're looking at their resume, we're looking at their references, and we're looking at all this information.

• 54:15Laci Mosley?

  That's wrong.

• 54:15Speaker 06

  What references did you have, sir?

• 54:17Laci Mosley?

  Himself? He was like, hold on, y'all calling my references right now? Let me step outside.

• 54:20Speaker 11

  ...to hire for that key position within their organization. Now, you also have a background check. And this information tells you about the character of the person that you're attempting or possibly, potentially going to hire for this company.

• 54:34Speaker 06

  Who did your background check?

• 54:35Speaker 11

  I can tell you that based on all of the experience that I have had in my life, the background check that you hold in your hand is probably 40% accurate.

• 54:44Laci Mosley?

  Okay, let's pause there.

• 54:48Laci Mosley?

  Based on my experience in crime, y'all's background checks are not backgrounding and checking like you thought that they were, okay? That's me, a criminal.

• 54:56Speaker 06

  And let me tell you firsthand, I have gotten jobs at the state official, the president. The president even sent me this letter.

• 55:03Laci Mosley?

  Right, I worked at the Red Cross. It's only got like almost 3,000 views. I feel like more people should be watching this. He's giving y'all the gospel. He was like, let me tell y'all, me, a former and current criminal, how...

• 55:16Laci Mosley?

  How to hire people so that you don't run into the same pitfalls that everyone who hired me did?

• 55:20Speaker 06

  Just hire me and I'll tell you how to spot them.

• 55:23Laci Mosley?

  Yes, now don't do a background check on me, okay?

• 55:26Speaker 06

  But hire me and I'll figure it out for you.

• 55:29Laci Mosley?

  I love this for him. And as of 2020, Fred manages an IHOP and continues to do good deeds.

• 55:36Speaker 06

  2020, he's still out here?

• 55:38Laci Mosley?

  He has the International House of Pancakes now. He might be an international criminal, but he also selling them international hotcakes. I love this, from helping local nonprofits through IHOP to providing free breakfast to shelter youth.

• 55:51Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 55:52Laci Mosley?

  Look, he's doing a little bad and a little good. He's like, it's all balancing out, okay? I give out a free grand slam to the youth, and you know, I also embezzle all the pancake money.

• 56:03Speaker 06

  Literally just stealing all the money.

• 56:06Laci Mosley?

  And so, recent research, and I love that he's a manager too, like he got to the manager position even though he'd be doing crime crime. Recent research of reporters has shown that there is no evidence that Fred has committed a crime since 2002. There's no evidence.

• 56:20Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 56:20Laci Mosley?

  He's not gotten caught. He got better. I appreciate the growth.

• 56:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, I could appreciate that, like...

• 56:27Laci Mosley?

  He was like, "I'm doing crime smarter, not harder."

• 56:29Speaker 06

  I was getting caught up, my lives wasn't working, it wasn't sticking, so you know what it is? I'mma just do some homework, study the game. I could fully rob this company without them knowing.

• 56:41Laci Mosley?

  I love that he rose to his potential, you know what I mean? He was like, "I've... A lot of trial in the era of doing crime." He was like, "Yeah, when I ended up in jail, I consulted with some other people, like, how can I do crime better and harder and harder to detect?" And then also, he's warning people about people like himself. I see him as a community outreach leader. He's saving y'all. Fred, Fred, I mean, you worked in a lot of places where the most vulnerable people in America are. You were running scams, so I don't approve of that. However, your dedication to the art of fraud is commendable, you know?

• 57:13Speaker 06

  I'll give you that. I'll give him that. Like, he has been in this game for a very long time.

• 57:18Laci Mosley?

  Lifetime Achievement Award.

• 57:19Speaker 06

  Been holding it down. At the scammer's ball, he will be there.

• 57:23Laci Mosley?

  He got more mugshots than America's Next Top Model. Tyra was like, "I am holding this mugshot." One of you lucky few. And he's one of them. I mean, he did it. You know Fred Marc Gomez La Jolla.

• 57:38Speaker 06

  Federico.

• 57:39Laci Mosley?

  Federico.

• 57:41Speaker 06

  Father Federico.

• 57:42Laci Mosley?

  Tahin Johnson, we stand a king.

• 57:47Speaker 06

  Tahin Johnson.

• 57:49Laci Mosley?

  And that brings us to the saddest part of the show, where soon I'll have to let John go. But before we do that, Scammer of the Week, this is where we highlight a charlatan who's worthy of our praise, or maybe not, we'll see. Let's get into it. So John Oliver recently tipped his hat to Kim Kardashian for her role in helping solve an art fraud scheme.

• 58:08Laci Mosley?

  Kim's had a lot of careers.

• 58:09Speaker 06

  Wait, what?

• 58:11Laci Mosley?

  In 2018, Kim attended the Met Gala dressed in head to toe gold Versace. Okay. Dressed in gold, Kim took a photo with the Egyptian priest, um, his name is Ned Jemonge Scarcophagus. Why your last name gonna be Scarcophagus?

• 58:29Laci Mosley?

  Which the-

• 58:30Speaker 06

  That's a, that, that, I already know that's a lie. Like, if your name is-

• 58:33Laci Mosley?

  Your last name is Scarcophagus?

• 58:34Speaker 06

  Really?

• 58:36Laci Mosley?

  Laci Mosley, Prince of Egypt Johnson. What, what is, this is too Egyptian. So the photo went viral on social media, leading to thousands seeing the Scarcophagus for the first time. Oh, so she was posing with the actual, uh, tomb. Oh, I remember that chainmail dress. So she was like, yeah, let me post next to, I hope when nobody did inside of there.

• 58:58Speaker 06

  That would be crazy.

• 58:59Laci Mosley?

  Don't prop my coffin up in a glass case, put me back in the ground. I don't know when we decided the moratorium was for like digging people up. Cause I know I can't dig up your grandma from last year where, when she passed. I can't dig up, like that's too soon.

• 59:12Speaker 06

  Let these people's bodies rest.

• 59:13Laci Mosley?

  Right. When does it become archaeology or when is it grave robbing? I think white people decide. They're like, no, no, no, no, this is for science. I'm like, I don't know.

• 59:22Speaker 06

  This is for the betterment of humanity, isn't it?

• 59:24Laci Mosley?

  Is it? I think we leave them in the ground. I don't know if we dig them, dig them up, y'all. Like, leave, leave them alone. So, didn't y'all learn from the mummy?

• 59:31Speaker 06

  That's dead, you know what? That's real.

• 59:33Laci Mosley?

  But they're like, we got a little brush though, so it's not as really as much of a robbery.

• 59:36Speaker 06

  And we're doing it when you guys are paying attention and watching it. So it's not really robbery. And then we're gonna sell this to a museum and make money off of it.

• 59:44Laci Mosley?

  Right. And then people are gonna pay to see it. Shout out to the British Museum, which is just a bunch of shit that British people never fucking own. And we're like, come look at all this shit that we stole from other people. Y'all come in here and look at it.

• 59:52Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 59:52Laci Mosley?

  Okay, for science. Like, bitch, the fuck? So.

• 59:56Speaker 06

  This is history, right?

• 59:57Laci Mosley?

  Right, sure.

• 59:58Speaker 06

  No, actually, it is history. You're, the history of you robbing people.

• 1:00:01Laci Mosley?

  Right. And it's like, let's put it all fully on display. And I don't, I just don't understand why I can't discover shit. Why can't I go in the British Museum and be like, I discovered this and take it out the glass and walk home with it? When, why you get to do that? What is the timestamp of like, now you own this?

• 1:00:14Speaker 06

  Here's what you need to do. You need to hit up Father Federico and he'll hook you up and show you how to get it done.

• 1:00:19Laci Mosley?

  Listen, he's, he's got a masterclass, y'all. Get on Father Federico's OnlyFans. He's dropping a live and tips every single week, y'all. Get into it, okay? An anonymous informant then tipped off international authorities to say that the casket had been looted and that the museum had been tricked into buying it for four million dollars. Of course, the museum was tricked into buying it, sure.

• 1:00:43Speaker 06

  I hear oceans fourteen.

• 1:00:46Laci Mosley?

  Right. Also, what is looted? Colonization is just looting. So when, what year does it become looting? They're like, yeah, we decided in nineteen fifty-five that it's all looting now. But before that, it was just discovery.

• 1:00:56Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:00:57Laci Mosley?

  I discovered this diamond in a, an African child's hands.

• 1:00:59Speaker 06

  Did you know that in Haiti, like, off the coast, the government, uh, I think the US government, don't quote me. There's something, something going on with the government. If you find gold off the coast of Haiti, you have to report it. And then, and you can't keep it.

• 1:01:13Laci Mosley?

  You can't own stuff that I found.

• 1:01:16Speaker 06

  You, if you find it off the coast of Haiti, you can't keep it.

• 1:01:19Laci Mosley?

  This is so ghetto. This is so extreme of ghetto. I'm not reporting that. If y'all find gold off the coast of Haiti, pick that shit up and put it in your pants and then shout to the sky, "Toussaint Leovitou!" And like, keep it moving, okay? No, we're not, we're not doing this.

• 1:01:31Speaker 06

  It's crazy. So if you Haitian, you find your own gold, you have to report it back to the government and they'll take it from you?

• 1:01:36Laci Mosley?

  Right, for what?

• 1:01:37Speaker 06

  Why?

• 1:01:37Laci Mosley?

  That's just like how the government's like, if you get a gift over a hundred dollars, you have to file it on your taxes and pay taxes on it, sweetie. That's never happening.

• 1:01:45Speaker 06

  Miss me with all that bullshit.

• 1:01:46Laci Mosley?

  I pay taxes on all the gifts that I get. You know what? I ain't never got a gift in my life. Let's go there.

• 1:01:50Speaker 06

  No one loves me.

• 1:01:51Laci Mosley?

  No one loves me. I ain't never got no gifts from nobody, okay? I give the government with their own, because I love them. They need my money.

• 1:01:58Speaker 06

  And that's the biggest scam is too, taxes.

• 1:02:00Laci Mosley?

  Oh, they just be making shit up. They literally be hitting me up, talking about, hey, girl, you owe this extra money. How? Like, oh, we realized you had money when you paid your taxes. So we was like, let's get a little bit more. So I'm like, give me a receipt. Prove it. No, y'all ain't got no receipts, ghetto. So it turns out that the sarcophagus, which dates back to the first century of BCE, had been looted during the 2011 revolution in Egypt. And the Met had purchased it based on a forged documentation and 1971 Egyptian export license. So I kind of fuck with this because it seems like Egypt was like, can you give us our shit back? Like, bring our guy home. No, that's our nigga. Like, we need, we would like him back home at his house.

• 1:02:33Speaker 06

  I fucks with that.

• 1:02:34Laci Mosley?

  We throwing him back in the pyramid where y'all stole him from.

• 1:02:37Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:02:38Laci Mosley?

  I'm into it. And, uh,

• 1:02:40Speaker 06

  I'm with it all the way.

• 1:02:41Laci Mosley?

  Shout out to Kim K being like, oh, my Instagram gonna go up with this dead man. Look at me next to this dead man. We matching, twenties.

• 1:02:49Speaker 06

  She was like, I'm gonna fucking kill it with this.

• 1:02:52Laci Mosley?

  I'm about to eat. Likes about to be on fleek. Yes. So upon the discovery, authorities seized the coffin and has since been returned back to its proper home in Egypt.

• 1:03:00Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 1:03:01Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I kind of fuck with this. Kim got her social media selfie on. She got millions, like over a hundred million followers and,

• 1:03:08Speaker 06

  Yeah, and she's, and she got the people back what they was just broke. She's Robin Hood.

• 1:03:12Laci Mosley?

  Right. I love how somebody put out an Amber Alert and Kim K is like, here I am with Amber.

• 1:03:19Laci Mosley?

  Say cheese, Amber.

• 1:03:22Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, yeah, we're gonna need Amber back. Like, no, we're gonna, we're taking her back.

• 1:03:25Speaker 06

  Thank you for finding her. Thank you.

• 1:03:27Laci Mosley?

  Thank you for finding. She was like, look at me, an activist, an accidental activist. Love this for her. Love this for everyone involved. Also, I love when people take their shit back. That's my favorite thing. Like, please take your shit back from the colonizers.

• 1:03:40Speaker 06

  It's called repo.

• 1:03:40Laci Mosley?

  Right. We're gonna need our things and we're gonna need them today.

• 1:03:45Laci Mosley?

  I want people to do that to the British Museum. It's time that everybody pull up. I want the Queen's diamonds that she stole from South Africa, put them back, pluck them right out of that ugly ass hat and put them the fuck back, okay? They're not theirs. And they love to like, when the Queen, you know, hit her dirt nap, you know, there were a lot of royalists who were like, listen, like, uh, the, the British monarchy, we were the first to like abolish slavery. And it was like, no, no you weren't. That was in Haiti and that, no you weren't. You guys champion that. Also, how you gonna be like, hey, we created something and then we stopped doing it. So we saved y'all, technically.

• 1:04:18Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 1:04:20Laci Mosley?

  Technically.

• 1:04:22Speaker 06

  Technically, it's your fault we're in this mess. And why we're dealing with everything, like.

• 1:04:26Laci Mosley?

  How you gonna kidnap me and bring me home talking about some, "I rescued you." No, you also.

• 1:04:30Speaker 06

  You also took me.

• 1:04:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you also took me. What are you talking about?

• 1:04:32Speaker 06

  And you put me to work.

• 1:04:33Laci Mosley?

  Nah, don't worry about all that. Don't worry about all that.

• 1:04:35Speaker 06

  Forget about it. Forget about it. Why you living in the past? Why you living in the past?

• 1:04:38Laci Mosley?

  Y'all need to move on, even though there's so much that still exists in our society and in our government that continues to keep you poor.

• 1:04:45Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. Same tired story. We stole you. We brought you back. Be okay.

• 1:04:50Laci Mosley?

  We keep you poor through every social program we have. Rich politicians steal directly from you and give it to Brett Favre.

• 1:04:56Speaker 06

  We don't give you any money that we're supposed to give you. That's fine.

• 1:04:59Laci Mosley?

  Okay, and what about it? Ugh, y'all so annoying. Why y'all bringing up old shit?

• 1:05:03Speaker 06

  You guys are so entitled. Like, what the fuck?

• 1:05:05Laci Mosley?

  I'm the real victim. Because everybody mad at me because I stole y'all. And then, think about my psyche.

• 1:05:13Laci Mosley?

  I wake up every day stressed about the shit that I did. Think about that. Come on now.

• 1:05:17Speaker 06

  Oh, Lord.

• 1:05:18Laci Mosley?

  Oh, goodness. Well, that brings us to the end of an amazing episode, Jean. Thank you so much for being here. We always ask on this podcast, where would you like to be found?

• 1:05:26Speaker 06

  Ooh, you can find me on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. Jean Ellie. Same name, different app. You can find me there.

• 1:05:34Laci Mosley?

  The brand is strong. Uh, and the Send Help series, the whole thing is out right now, right?

• 1:05:38Speaker 06

  The whole thing is out. You could binge watch every episode, all seven episodes of Send Help on All Black, which you can find on Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Prime, and also on your smartphone and on your smart TV. Just look for the All Black app.

• 1:05:51Laci Mosley?

  So get into it. Get into All Black. And as always, guys, if you want to see the photos of this man who...

• 1:05:58Laci Mosley?

  He has the, he doesn't have the face of a criminal. And I'll give it, he's serving good Samaritan face. And I love that for him. If you want to see those, Scam Goddess Pod on all platforms, but obviously the Instagram. And then if you want to follow me and my shenanigans, D I V A L A C I D, Velaci, on all platforms, congregation. Keep preaching. Amen.

• 1:06:18Speaker 06

  Amen, amen, amen.

• 1:06:19Laci Mosley?

  Who's to say you can't be qualified to be a priest? Just, you get an outfit.

• 1:06:24Speaker 06

  You get an outfit, you read the Bible.

• 1:06:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and then you're set. And then start dunking babies and marrying couples.

• 1:06:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, man, I wish you would've got arrested during a wedding.

• 1:06:36Speaker 06

  Oh, that would've been a great, like, communion.

• 1:06:39Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's like doing the vows and they're like...

• 1:06:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, y'all, hold on. Somebody knocking at the church door. No, I'll get it. No, you don't have to get it. You the priest. No, I'll get it.

• 1:06:50Speaker 06

  It'd be out the back?

• 1:06:52Laci Mosley?

  No, he ran away. He's gone. Well, y'all, we got to the end of the ceremony. We basically got nuptialized. It's good. All right, y'all. Have a great week. Bye-bye.

• 1:07:05Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Karkbo, engineered by Ryan Connor and Abby Aguilar. Our researcher is Kalen Brand. Stay Schemin.

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