Summary
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In this episode, Laci Mosley is joined by guest Sasheer Zamata to discuss movies, absurd internet scams, and historical grifts. They unpack the bizarre tale of Garrison Courtney, a former congressional spokesman and DEA contractor who spent years impersonating a CIA operative, convincing senior military officials and businesses that he led a classified presidential task force, and even sneaking people into secure SCIF bunkers before finally being caught and facing federal wire fraud charges. The conversation also explores listener-submitted cons, including a clever scheme to get free housing at national parks by backing out of employee contracts, and a hilarious elementary school currency laundering operation.
- If you want to stay for free at a national park, you can sign up for an employee position at one park, book an employee room at another park along your route, and then cancel your job offer. 15:48
- Garrison Courtney ran a multi-million dollar fake CIA operation by telling defense contractors they needed to put him on their payrolls to hide their spy work. 25:58
- A Reddit user successfully wasted a scammer's time by pretending to be their own sick grandmother asking for Steam wallet gift cards. 42:15
- An elementary school student ran a massive counterfeit money and money laundering ring using school mascot currency called Davidson dollars. 51:28
Chapters
- 0:01Podcast Intro and Advertisements
The episode opens with a mix of emergency call dramatizations and a series of product and service advertisements before the host introduces the show.
- 1:56Ad Read: Clinique Moisture Surge
A commercial for Clinique’s moisturizer highlights its hydration benefits and product features.
- 2:51Discussion of Scams and Personal Experiences
The conversation turns to scams, with Zamata recounting how she was scammed and how she has dealt with fraudulent schemes.
- 21:15Host Welcomes Guest and Sets Up Theme
The host welcomes Sasheer Zamata and explains the episode’s focus on fraud and scams, setting the stage for the interview.
- 22:02Ad Read: OnDeck Business Loans
An ad promotes OnDeck’s small business loans, detailing eligibility and application process.
- 23:41Detailed Account of the CIA Swindler Scam
The hosts dive into the story of Garrison Courtney, a former DEA spokesman who posed as a CIA operative to defraud companies.
- 34:39Legal Consequences and Ongoing Investigation
They discuss Courtney’s legal status, plea deal, potential prison time, and the broader implications for victims and the justice system.
- 41:08Scammer of the Week Segment
The hosts spotlight a lesser-known scammer who pretended to be a grandmother, sharing anecdotes and tips for listeners.
- 50:17Counterfeit School Currency Explored
The hosts discuss a bizarre school where counterfeit Davidson dollars were used for prizes and detention was imposed on offenders.
- 54:32Personal Gains and Moral Ambiguity
The narrator reflects on personal benefits from the scam, including buying gifts for family and questioning the ethics of the scheme.
- 1:01:40Ad Read: Pepperidge Farm Cookies
The final ad segment advertises Pepperidge Farm cookies, describing flavors and enjoyment moments.
Highlights
- 6:58
Sasheer Zamata shares a story from her early twenties in New York where a psychic spotted her on the street, pulled her inside, and tried to charge her twenty-five dollars for life-saving information.
- 15:14
National park housing scamstrategy
Laci Mosley reads a listener letter detailing how to exploit national park hospitality companies by reserving employee rooms under the guise of taking a job and then backing out.
- 23:47
The fake CIA operative griftdata
Laci Mosley breaks down how Garrison Courtney scammed 4.4 million dollars by convincing government and military officials he was a high-level intelligence operative.
- 29:12
Accessing secret SCIF bunkersinsight
Courtney leveraged his former government ties to gain access to sensitive compartmented information facilities, bringing victims into secure government bunkers to sell his lies.
- 50:31
Elementary school counterfeit ringstory
A listener shares an incredible childhood story about acting as a school judge while running a counterfeit currency and money laundering scheme with Davidson dollars.
Quotes
“I was like, oh, my God. People in New York are so helpful.”
Unnamed speaker · 7:01 “He presented himself as another person identified as Individual A, a CIA operative.”
Laci Mosley · 24:34 “He would come up to you, and be like, 'Oh, what's up, Sergeant? Yeah, yeah, it's me, Individual A. Um, I'm gonna need you to put me on your payroll.'”
Laci Mosley · 26:04 “He was granted access to meet with the victims in facilities known as SCIFs.”
Laci Mosley · 29:12 “I love that Devon was like out here crying and he was like, here, some, I got you something nice, mama.”
Laci Mosley · 54:37 “They changed all the money over to colored paper and double sided printed the money.”
Laci Mosley · 52:23 “I love that everybody was scamming everybody, though. The teachers scamming the students.”
Laci Mosley · 57:29
Sponsored segments
- KISSIMTA 0:52–0:54
- Zillow 1:01–1:45
- Clinique 2:00–2:25
- United Healthcare 22:57–23:07
- Stitcher Premium 48:14–48:27
- OnDeck 1:00:33–1:00:52
- Clinique 1:01:02–1:01:32
- Pepperidge Farm 1:01:40–1:01:59
About this episode
What's poppin, con-gregation? Sasheer Zamata drops by the pod this week to expose the man who told people he was a government spy who needed money, and those people were like, "sure." Plus, a clip from the Scam Goddess premium show Con-Fessions, hosted by Laci and Priscilla Davies. Stay schemin! Research by Sharilyn Vera Sources: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/former-dea-spokesman-garrison-courtney-guilty-plea-cia-operative-4-4-million-fraud-scheme/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/federalnewsnetwork.com/people/2020/06/ex-federal-worker-pretended-to-be-cia-to-steal-millions-2/amp/ See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Transcript
10,804 words · 8 speakers
Speaker names marked are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.
Topics
- Davidson
- Davidson dollars
- North Dakota
- Celtic Bank
- Arm and Hammer
- Davidson Elementary
- TrustPilot
- Better Business Bureau
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