The Fake MAGA Influencer w/ Sydnee Washington & Marie Faustin

Get excited, CONgregation! Laci is joined by bestie babes Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin (Mess Podcast) to dig into Emily Hart, a MAGA influencer who turned out to be an AI generated baddie created by a 22-year-old med student in India. The gals chat about sea otters, scamming hippos, lease agreements, Duolingo, and Waymos. Listen to Mess wherever you get your podcasts. Stay schemin’! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Sydnee Washington: @justsydbw Marie Faustin: @reeezy Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.wired.com/story/ai-generated-maga-girls/ https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/story/who-is-emily-hart-how-an-indian-medical-student-fooled-dumb-maga-fans-with-ai-526820-2026-04-22?utm_source=rssfeed https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-shares-fake-swifties-for-trump-images/

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:15Speaker 01

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• 1:49Laci Mosley?

  West Pop and Congregation, it's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them, but one thing's for sure, we will always laugh at them, but never the victims. Yes. What am I, congregation? Yes, I'm excited, I'm thrilled, elated. Go ahead, stand up in your seats, stand up in your cars. Babies who listen to the podcast, pull up on the crib bars, okay? Get on your feet, because we have two amazing guests today. You know these are my homegirls. We have not one, but two, right? Of the best babes on the show. You've seen them and you certainly have heard them. One is a comedian, actress and writer. The other is also a comedian, actress and writer.

• 2:32Laci Mosley?

  Together, they host the hilarious and fun podcast Mess, where they dive into the mess that is life on earth and try to make sense of it every single week. And you've seen their work on Why Are You Single? That's Marie Foster, Search Party, The Bridesman, and Inside Amy Schumer. Congregation, please welcome back the best babes, Marie Foster and Sydney Washington to the show. Thank you guys for coming back.

• 2:59Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 3:00Laci Mosley?

  I lowkey feel like I kidnapped y'all today because I just did the mess and then we all drove over here together because y'all are very New Yorkers. And can y'all comment on my driving and say how good it was and how alive y'all are?

• 3:11Speaker 05

  Well, at one point, you said, oh, I haven't drove in a while. And I said, mm-hmm.

• 3:18Speaker 05

  But I was like, so how are you getting around? I said, well, why are we in it?

• 3:23Speaker 05

  Why are we in it?

• 3:24Laci Mosley?

  Because I've been flying and stuff.

• 3:26Speaker 05

  Oh, that's right, yeah.

• 3:27Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 3:27Speaker 05

  You've been, you've been on the road again?

• 3:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, on the road again, in the sky.

• 3:31Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 3:31Laci Mosley?

  Fighting, fighting the sky demons. It's hard to be in the sky these days.

• 3:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, especially if you a Spirit member. Spirit airline. Yeah. Do they have a rewards program?

• 3:41Laci Mosley?

  Do they?

• 3:41Speaker 05

  I think it's called Ghost.

• 3:42Laci Mosley?

  What do you?

• 3:45Speaker 05

  Especially if you're Ghost Platinum.

• 3:48Laci Mosley?

  Ghost Platinum, you get a seatbelt for sure.

• 3:50Speaker 05

  Hey, they might even let you bring a juice.

• 3:53Laci Mosley?

  Not a juice?

• 3:54Speaker 05

  A little cup of juice.

• 3:55Laci Mosley?

  I'm Ghost Platinum, I get to wear my jacket on the plane.

• 3:58Speaker 05

  What?

• 3:59Laci Mosley?

  Two layers of clothing.

• 4:00Speaker 05

  You get to bring two bags.

• 4:02Laci Mosley?

  Wow. So, at the start of this podcast, we always ask now your opinions about scams, schemes and real things. So to define that, a scam is something that we Can absolutely say is a crime and is ripping people off. A scheme feels like a crime, but it's legal. And sometimes it's not a crime and sometimes it feels like it is. And then a real thing is something that we believe is necessary.

• 4:30Speaker 06

  You know, I have encountered a scheme.

• 4:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay. I was gonna ask you three things, but I wanna know about your scheme first.

• 4:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, my scheme was when I was in Alaska and there was a sea otter excursion. So when I hear excursion, you know, it's, you know, it's a voyage and I feel like I'm gonna be up close and personal with whatever the excursion is about. But this excursion, we were very far away and we had to get our binoculars out to actually encounter the sea otters. So that felt like a scheme, like.

• 5:00Laci Mosley?

  Did you wanna pet the otter or something?

• 5:01Speaker 06

  I sure did. I wanted to pat cake with them niggas.

• 5:02Laci Mosley?

  You wanted to ride the otter like free will?

• 5:05Speaker 05

  She wanted to be on the belly of the mom with the baby on her.

• 5:08Speaker 06

  I wanted to be able to exchange, you know, you know, social security numbers if possible.

• 5:13Laci Mosley?

  Now, but are otters violent? I know seals are a little.

• 5:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, do otters have nails?

• 5:19Laci Mosley?

  I don't know if otters be whooping your ass or something.

• 5:21Speaker 06

  No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think they're kinda like chill. They're kinda low-key lazy, if you think about it.

• 5:26Laci Mosley?

  Well, the thing is, like, I thought that about seals and then I keep seeing seal attacks.

• 5:30Speaker 05

  Wait, who are seals? They don't even have arms.

• 5:33Speaker 06

  They be oof, oof, oof.

• 5:36Speaker 06

  They chest bumping and they head butting. Come on, Ocho.

• 5:38Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, I would be very embarrassed if a seal attacked me though, cuz not you flopped over here and got me.

• 5:43Speaker 05

  I think seals don't attack. You gotta show us the, the, the, run, run the tape.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  Well, no, there was like this beach thing. It was recently on TikTok where somebody was taking a video of these two white women who were trapped on the rocks because they said, don't get too close to the seals. But of course, they were like, oh my God, we gotta get a pic with the seals. So they went over to this rock and then all the seals started going over there and they couldn't get off the rock.

• 6:05Speaker 06

  But is that a seal attack or that's them? Yeah, fuck around and find out.

• 6:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they jumped into the seal's den.

• 6:11Speaker 05

  They should've. I mean, the seals then, they just gonna hug you to death.

• 6:15Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 6:15Speaker 05

  They should have started singing seal.

• 6:19Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 6:22Speaker 05

  And that was two with a seal.

• 6:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, and you know a white woman love a seal, so that it can be an attack.

• 6:29Speaker 05

  Shout out to Heidi Klum.

• 6:30Speaker 06

  She made it out there for us.

• 6:31Speaker 05

  At least it wasn't like a walrus circle. Those fight.

• 6:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I feel like a walrus does fight. I always see them like.

• 6:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, they like. They like ram each other.

• 6:39Laci Mosley?

  They like to tussle. Yeah, I don't want to be involved in that. And I also want to say this again for the people in the back. Hippos are terrible. They're murderers. They be killing everybody. They have great PR and we need to really like let the people know.

• 6:51Speaker 05

  Hold on, let me, let me, can I, maya, if I may.

• 6:54Laci Mosley?

  Look it up. Hippos can run underwater. They fast as hell and they love to fight.

• 6:58Speaker 05

  But why are you where the hippos live?

• 7:00Laci Mosley?

  They're probably on an excursion.

• 7:02Speaker 05

  No. Again, white people leave these animals where they at.

• 7:06Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:07Speaker 05

  Okay?

• 7:08Speaker 06

  Except Sidney. Except Sidney, because when Sidney is near the animals, it's all love. In the club, we all fam.

• 7:16Speaker 05

  See Sidney at sea.

• 7:18Speaker 06

  That's all it is.

• 7:19Speaker 05

  Sidney at sea, wait, so what happened?

• 7:19Laci Mosley?

  Because hippos are responsible for hundreds of human deaths each year.

• 7:22Speaker 05

  But where do hippos live? Let's, let's get back to it.

• 7:25Laci Mosley?

  At their spot.

• 7:26Speaker 05

  Right. So you at the hippo's house, shoes still on.

• 7:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:30Speaker 05

  Trying to get close to it. Just because it looks cuddly or you've seen a cartoon or a movie or you've played Hungry Hungry Hippos as a kid, doesn't mean that these things are toys.

• 7:39Speaker 06

  And they don't even look that inviting at all.

• 7:42Speaker 05

  No.

• 7:43Laci Mosley?

  And honestly, the game was telling us that seals were like fucked up. Hungry Hungry Hippos, meaning they just like chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp.

• 7:49Speaker 06

  No, that's fat phobia. That's what that is.

• 7:50Laci Mosley?

  No, it's.

• 7:51Speaker 05

  Whoa, it's fat phobia? Hungry Hungry Hippos?

• 7:53Speaker 06

  Yes, it is.

• 7:54Speaker 05

  You calling the hippos people or you calling the hippos big?

• 7:57Speaker 06

  No, I'm.

• 7:58Laci Mosley?

  I think you the one calling them.

• 7:59Speaker 05

  That's what it felt like, it felt like that.

• 8:00Speaker 06

  You know what?

• 8:01Laci Mosley?

  We got hippo body positivity over here.

• 8:03Speaker 06

  And sometimes it's okay to be quiet and that's what I'm gonna do.

• 8:05Laci Mosley?

  Because the hippo could be having a meal. We not judging how much the hippo eats. I'm just saying, why it gotta eat so fast and why it's gotta be so violent?

• 8:10Speaker 05

  Can we see how much a hippo eats in a day? Like how many tons it, or how much do they weigh?

• 8:15Laci Mosley?

  We're on this tangent. I want to say that-

• 8:17Speaker 06

  It is a tangent, but I just want to tell you it's a scheme because it costs $200 per person-

• 8:22Laci Mosley?

  This excursion?

• 8:23Speaker 06

  For this excursion, for us to see the sea otters. And we see them, but we don't see them. Do you understand?

• 8:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So a hippo is 3,500 to 9,900 pounds for a male adult.

• 8:37Speaker 06

  Whoa.

• 8:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they're heavy. They're, they're-

• 8:39Speaker 05

  That's not cuddling with you, babe. It's running at you. You gonna get, it's like getting hit by a car.

• 8:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like a Mack truck.

• 8:45Speaker 05

  Does a car weigh 9,000 pounds? No. A truck. Yes!

• 8:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. But I agree with you that the excursion was a scheme, but I also kind of wonder if they didn't have like the right permits to get that close to the otters.

• 8:58Speaker 06

  It's against the law. It's against the law. You can't even yell when you're near them. You gotta be very quiet.

• 9:02Speaker 05

  If I pay $200, I should be able to yell at some sea otters.

• 9:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 9:05Speaker 05

  I should be able to do-

• 9:06Speaker 06

  Yo! That's how I should be able to pull up on them, but I couldn't.

• 9:08Laci Mosley?

  If I pay $200, I need to play the sea otters my mixtape.

• 9:11Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like I should be able to do anything. We have a nice chat. I'm with y'all. Like, I'm for real.

• 9:16Speaker 05

  Because then what is a $200 cover? Being kind of nearish to them?

• 9:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, pretty much. And, you know, you see a bald eagle in a tree, you'll see a well, you know, free willy, like, you, you do get to see things in the nature, but I just wanted to be a tad bit closer. And by tad, I wanted to be able to go boop on their foreheads.

• 9:36Speaker 05

  Sydney, stay away from hippos. Stay away from hippos, Sydney.

• 9:40Laci Mosley?

  Next week, we'll see Sydney riding an otter.

• 9:43Speaker 05

  How big is an otter?

• 9:46Speaker 06

  Whoa. I'm sorry I took you there. Sorry.

• 9:49Laci Mosley?

  No, I love when people take me through there.

• 9:51Speaker 05

  No, take me through there.

• 9:52Speaker 06

  Continue your show, friend.

• 9:53Laci Mosley?

  So scam, scheme, or a real thing? My first question for both of you is lease agreements. Do you think they're a scam, a scheme, or a real thing? Obviously, they're a real thing and they're not considered illegal, but-

• 10:05Speaker 05

  It's a real thing.

• 10:05Laci Mosley?

  How do you feel about them, though?

• 10:08Speaker 05

  Well, I feel like landlords suck. But a lease agreement means that I live here and you can't kick me out.

• 10:16Laci Mosley?

  That's true.

• 10:17Speaker 05

  But like, some leases are month to month. Sometimes they just be like, you been here, you cool. Like, you haven't signed anything since you moved in, but.

• 10:24Laci Mosley?

  I think it depends on the landlord, or if you're at a corporation. Because for me, it's starting to get real schemey. Because why, why is the rent going up every year and the amenities are not getting newer or nicer?

• 10:37Speaker 05

  That's.

• 10:38Laci Mosley?

  Why is month to month more expensive than if you lock me in?

• 10:41Speaker 06

  After every three years, you supposed to repaint my shit. Why is it still living dingy and dirty? Like, I've been here for, you know, forty days and forty nights. I mean, I have been there for forty days and forty nights, you know what I mean? But it's just like, yeah, why, why is it, why is all the like, fingerprints everywhere from like, five years ago?

• 10:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, my house is, well, not a house, but like, the, my apartment is painted. And like, one thing if y'all don't know this, like, if you paint a place and you live there for over three years, in most states, you gotta check your state regulations, but like, they can't take away from your housing deposit to paint, because they have to paint regardless.

• 11:14Speaker 05

  Every two year, every two month, every two years, two months. Every two years in New York, they're supposed to paint your apartment.

• 11:20Speaker 06

  Really?

• 11:20Speaker 05

  I've been in my apartment for six years, my landlord just painted it last month.

• 11:24Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 11:24Speaker 05

  And I had to send an email, like, because my rent went up.

• 11:28Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so if my rent's going, I need to be like, y'all give me a brand new paint job.

• 11:32Speaker 05

  Hey, my rent is going up, nothing has changed in here. It needs a fresh coat of paint. And I actually said, I need you to re-grout these tiles in this bathroom.

• 11:39Laci Mosley?

  I know, that's right.

• 11:40Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's, it's crazy that orange stuff is coming out of the sinks. I mean, the floors are lifting.

• 11:46Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 11:48Speaker 06

  The light fixtures is weird. Yeah, they need to come up in here and do some home improvement, for sure.

• 11:52Speaker 05

  You live near the fault?

• 11:53Speaker 06

  No.

• 11:57Speaker 05

  You live on a Titanic plate?

• 11:59Speaker 06

  No. No, you know, I'm a New Yorker.

• 12:02Speaker 05

  I didn't know New Yorkers having earthquakes like that. We've had two earthquakes in New York.

• 12:06Speaker 06

  Did you know that?

• 12:07Speaker 05

  That I know.

• 12:08Speaker 06

  Yes, we've been through it.

• 12:09Laci Mosley?

  They really affected you.

• 12:10Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 12:10Speaker 05

  Can you give us, give us our time? Last year, we had an earthquake in New York, in New York City.

• 12:15Laci Mosley?

  Don't nothing in New York need to shake like that.

• 12:17Speaker 06

  Titties, though.

• 12:19Speaker 05

  That's about it.

• 12:21Laci Mosley?

  Right, and that's about it. I don't wanna see no skyscraper shaking.

• 12:24Speaker 05

  Girl, sweat. And you know, we don't, like, y'all build things to sway here.

• 12:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 12:28Speaker 05

  Our stuff don't sway. It's just gonna come crashing down.

• 12:31Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm. And another thing about the lease agreement is because at first, I'm like, yeah, fuck them landlords. But then you meet some people and it's like, oh, they shicey too. Everybody gotta sign. Everybody gotta sign. But it's like, are you gonna follow what the lease says?

• 12:45Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 12:45Speaker 06

  A lot of people don't like rules. Even though they sign, give they signature, they autograph, they'll go off and do some extra shit. It's like, hey, you not supposed to be putting all these holes in these walls.

• 12:54Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 12:55Speaker 06

  Okay?

• 12:55Speaker 05

  Hey, come fill the holes up so I can get my deposit back. I'm gonna get some TaskRabbit's.

• 12:59Speaker 06

  Yes, you have to. Yeah.

• 13:01Laci Mosley?

  You really do. And then, and then you don't have to worry about paying for that. I saw a TikTok about a lady who had an Airbnb that somebody remodeled while they were staying in it. Like-

• 13:11Speaker 05

  How? Did it look better when she was done?

• 13:13Laci Mosley?

  Apartment. Maybe it was a rental, but it was like, no, they like, it was given like, they were using it for TikTok, like DIY. Like, I'm gonna turn my counter into marble.

• 13:22Speaker 06

  I did see that.

• 13:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 13:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 13:25Laci Mosley?

  Tore that lady's house up.

• 13:26Speaker 06

  What? Did she tear it up or?

• 13:29Speaker 05

  Elevated.

• 13:30Laci Mosley?

  No, it looked bad.

• 13:31Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 13:32Laci Mosley?

  It was given real do it yourself.

• 13:34Speaker 05

  Did it yourself.

• 13:36Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 13:36Laci Mosley?

  Did it, yeah. It's like you walked in and you see it and you're like, you did this yourself.

• 13:40Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 13:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. DIY is supposed to be like a surprise, like, I did this myself.

• 13:45Speaker 05

  DIY is positive. Did it yourself is negative.

• 13:47Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 13:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 13:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 13:49Speaker 06

  Did you do this yourself? Cause if somebody say that, you know, it's not good at all.

• 13:53Speaker 05

  DIY. Don't do it yourself.

• 13:55Speaker 06

  Yes. You know, you could have hired somebody for this.

• 13:58Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 13:58Speaker 05

  People go to school for this.

• 14:00Laci Mosley?

  When people start recommending, like, people like, I got this. You've ever been on Angie's List? Cause you need to get on her list.

• 14:05Speaker 05

  Not Angie's List.

• 14:07Laci Mosley?

  Angie's List is like, they have all the like, like, home fixer-upper, like, people.

• 14:11Speaker 05

  Does she know Craig?

• 14:15Speaker 06

  You ain't got to lie, Craig.

• 14:17Laci Mosley?

  I feel like our Craig wouldn't fuck with each other like that, but maybe.

• 14:20Speaker 05

  Well, Craig is where the schemes and the scams are.

• 14:22Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 14:23Speaker 05

  There's also some real stuff on there. I've gotten some cool furniture from Craigslist.

• 14:26Laci Mosley?

  I think Angie, well, see, you got your furniture, you probably risked your life a little bit.

• 14:30Speaker 05

  Uh, this was back before people were killing people on Craigslist, I feel like.

• 14:34Speaker 06

  I think everybody from the beginning of the time was getting killed on.

• 14:36Speaker 05

  In the beginning? First day they was killing on Craigslist?

• 14:39Laci Mosley?

  I think they realized it was a great opportunity.

• 14:41Speaker 05

  To kill. No, beginning of Craigslist, it was, it was like, you know, above par.

• 14:47Speaker 06

  Humans, I think maybe one or two days tops.

• 14:51Speaker 05

  There we go.

• 14:51Speaker 06

  And then, and then everybody was like, you know, instead of killing my wife, why wouldn't I kill on Craigslist?

• 14:56Speaker 05

  There was a Craigslist killer. There was a whole dude.

• 14:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 15:00Speaker 05

  But I think he was meeting people for love. If you're looking for love through Craigslist.

• 15:04Laci Mosley?

  Well, there used to be Miss Connections.

• 15:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:06Speaker 06

  Oh, that's right.

• 15:07Speaker 05

  And Miss Connections should have stayed missed.

• 15:09Laci Mosley?

  That was probably God's protection. Yeah, you shouldn't have probably looked for that connection.

• 15:13Speaker 06

  I used to, for a reason.

• 15:14Speaker 05

  I used to read them, though.

• 15:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, because it was interesting, especially because there'd be a lot from New York, like, saw you on the two train and like.

• 15:21Speaker 05

  You in a red hoodie, me wearing vans. And it's like, okay.

• 15:25Speaker 06

  That could be anybody. Like, that's a, that's a normal Tuesday.

• 15:28Speaker 05

  I would read them sometimes and be like, I wonder if that was me.

• 15:31Laci Mosley?

  Right? I feel like that would be a new lore for the, for the Craigslist killers, like Miss Connections, just say random stuff. You in the white t-shirt and the kids with the jeans on.

• 15:40Speaker 05

  You Adidas sneakers and barrel jeans.

• 15:43Laci Mosley?

  Me in a Gucci suit with the Prada loafers. That's how you get them.

• 15:47Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. Oh, he got money.

• 15:49Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 15:49Speaker 05

  You a machine blouse.

• 15:52Speaker 06

  I would never be on Miss Connections because you got to be on public transportation for that. And I'm like.

• 15:56Speaker 05

  Girl, you ought to, you ought to metro car.

• 15:57Speaker 06

  I'm in the car. I'm in the car.

• 15:59Speaker 05

  Girl, you ought to metro car.

• 16:00Speaker 06

  I'm in the oops, I'm in the lit.

• 16:02Laci Mosley?

  Okay, okay, we're at here.

• 16:03Speaker 06

  I'm in the heli.

• 16:05Laci Mosley?

  In the heli is crazy.

• 16:08Laci Mosley?

  Okay, what about this one? I picked this one for you, sending scam scheme or a real thing? Education apps, such as like a Duolingo.

• 16:18Speaker 06

  You really did that? You gonna do that today?

• 16:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it inspired me.

• 16:21Speaker 06

  You gonna do that today?

• 16:22Laci Mosley?

  I just wanna know if you think it's a scam, a scheme, or a real thing?

• 16:25Speaker 06

  I think it, it, it's in between real thing and scheme. Because Duolingo has helped many people I know be to like go into, you know, to Rome or Mexico.

• 16:39Laci Mosley?

  Off of Duolingo?

• 16:41Speaker 06

  At that moment, at that moment, they're getting fluid.

• 16:44Speaker 05

  The owl says yes. You know, the little Duolingo bird, he be like, you doing great.

• 16:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we know that bird. That bird also gets real passive aggressive and mean if you don't show up. But we miss you. It's been 10 days.

• 16:55Speaker 05

  Hey, what happened to the streak?

• 16:57Laci Mosley?

  Right, you don't got culture no more, you said? You just gave up?

• 17:00Speaker 05

  The bird be like, well, fuck you then. Be like, oh my God, I got two of my Duos.

• 17:03Speaker 06

  The Duolingo, so you was only doing it for summer, huh?

• 17:06Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay.

• 17:06Speaker 06

  What about the fall? What about the winter?

• 17:08Speaker 05

  Come on, so they say bitch? You're like, oh my God, I gotta get on my Duolingo real quick.

• 17:13Speaker 06

  The owl's like, eat, pray, huh, huh? Oh, y'all broke up? Oh, so you don't wanna know Italian anymore?

• 17:19Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay, cool, cool.

• 17:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 17:21Laci Mosley?

  So, but, but, so you said it's a scheme? You said it's like right in between?

• 17:25Speaker 06

  It's, it's a real thing because people do use it for whatever trip that's coming up. Um, Duolingo. But then there's other apps, it's like, how do you get, you know, you're getting better self-esteem? Or learning how to, you know, speak English fluently? Uh, or being able to public, like, public speak? There's apps like that. And there is a line where it's like, why is it 79.99 every month?

• 17:55Laci Mosley?

  Right, and how much are you teaching me for that?

• 17:57Speaker 06

  Cause I still have to teach myself too, by going into, to the app, doing it every day.

• 18:03Laci Mosley?

  I don't got no professor or nothing.

• 18:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 18:05Laci Mosley?

  You know, we used to just do that with like-

• 18:08Speaker 05

  Books. Wow, remember books?

• 18:10Speaker 06

  Wait, what?

• 18:11Laci Mosley?

  Books used to just, you would just read it yourself and then you would learn how to, mm-hmm.

• 18:14Speaker 05

  Girl, what the, what's the last time you read a book?

• 18:17Speaker 06

  Weren't we in a book club?

• 18:18Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 18:19Speaker 06

  And then the second book, we like, you know what?

• 18:21Speaker 05

  You had two books?

• 18:22Speaker 06

  And we said, this ain't for us.

• 18:24Speaker 05

  Well, no.

• 18:25Speaker 06

  This reading thing, why would we do that? No, we did three.

• 18:27Speaker 05

  I picked the first book, Amina, oh, Amina picked the...

• 18:31Speaker 06

  The third one, on the third one, we said, reading ain't for us.

• 18:34Speaker 05

  It was a book a month.

• 18:35Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 18:35Speaker 05

  And it's now month five or six.

• 18:39Laci Mosley?

  That was very classy of y'all to try, though. Y'all are very busy, so, you know.

• 18:43Speaker 05

  And, I mean, I was, I had my finger booth.

• 18:47Speaker 05

  You'd be like, you know how to reread, you'd be like, what, did I miss a page? Um, yeah, but we already...

• 18:52Laci Mosley?

  That's how my ADHD works, I'll read three pages and be like, what did I just read?

• 18:55Speaker 06

  Exactly, and sometimes they have apps for that, like, how to, how to, um...

• 19:00Speaker 05

  Get away with murder.

• 19:00Speaker 06

  No, no, no, how to memorize things, or how to better, I have, I'm having brain fog right now.

• 19:09Laci Mosley?

  No, but see, I feel like the Betterment apps, like, it, it's, as much as you use it, as much as you try to get out of it, I feel like is there for you. But then you had, like, creepy apps, like CoStar, where it was supposed to be giving you insights into your personality. Yep, The Pattern and CoStar, and The Pattern is real sketchy, if you still using that, first of all, what year is it?

• 19:27Speaker 05

  Oh, hold on, let me do this.

• 19:28Laci Mosley?

  Um, yeah, no, delete it, The Pattern is really, really invasive.

• 19:31Speaker 06

  I did that during the pandemic, I had so much time.

• 19:34Laci Mosley?

  One time it was like, I know that your relationship with Emily may be fraught at the moment, or some shit like that, and I was like, whoa. First of all, Emily is my assistant, that's why we talk every day at the time, and I'm like, um, why are you in my phone reading my text messages and then predicting stuff off of my texts, like?

• 19:50Speaker 05

  Wait, it's going through your, your text messages?

• 19:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's going through everything.

• 19:54Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 19:55Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 19:57Speaker 06

  That's scary.

• 19:58Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 19:59Speaker 06

  What about you, Marie, what do you, what do you think?

• 20:01Speaker 05

  About?

• 20:01Speaker 06

  Is it a scheme?

• 20:02Speaker 05

  Oh, the, the apps, the educational apps, I feel like some of them are good, right? Like, some people, you know, use MasterClass and they learn stuff from that.

• 20:10Speaker 06

  That one is good, I, I'd pay for that.

• 20:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, and then I feel like it's other ones that, like, I don't know, I'm, I'm sure there's an app that teaches you how to cook or something, but then...

• 20:18Laci Mosley?

  Oh, for sure.

• 20:18Speaker 05

  But then a lot of things, like, that you pay a, a monthly fee for, or a yearly fee for, they count on people...

• 20:25Laci Mosley?

  Forgetting.

• 20:26Speaker 05

  Forgetting.

• 20:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 20:27Speaker 05

  They count on you forgetting, so they just raking in vocal bucks. And you not learning anything. But you're spending the money.

• 20:34Laci Mosley?

  But you're spending the money.

• 20:35Speaker 05

  And or you already spent it. You didn't even know.

• 20:37Laci Mosley?

  And I feel like sometimes those type of apps stop sending you notifications because they want you to forget. Like if you're not logging in enough, they're like, you still paying for it.

• 20:44Speaker 05

  The free ones be like, hey.

• 20:46Laci Mosley?

  Hey.

• 20:46Speaker 05

  Hi.

• 20:47Laci Mosley?

  Hey, girl.

• 20:48Speaker 05

  Can you come outside?

• 20:49Laci Mosley?

  Like, do you wanna get on here so we can nickel and dime you?

• 20:52Speaker 05

  Hey, we miss you. But the free ones be like.

• 20:55Laci Mosley?

  But the free ones also be like, yeah, come on over here. It's all free. And then they be like, if you wanna unlock, unlock the real app, then actually give us the money.

• 21:01Speaker 06

  What's up with that? And then don't forget about not reading the fine print. They're like, oh, you put your card down, you get, you know, two months free, but then if you don't, um, cancel it, then we are gonna keep charging you. And that has happened to me several times.

• 21:15Speaker 05

  There's two ways that you can avoid that. One, set a reminder on your phone for like the day before or a few days, but the week before, you gotta delete that. And then remind yourself every day until it's time to delete it. Or go to your credit card, or your, your phone has like subscriptions.

• 21:30Laci Mosley?

  Yep.

• 21:31Speaker 05

  You can go straight to that and then turn it off.

• 21:33Speaker 06

  But that, in order for that, you gotta not have executive dysfunction, which I have.

• 21:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I do too, which is why I try to use it for the specific purpose I need. And then I immediately turn it off while I'm like, the app might still be open and I've already turned off the subscription.

• 21:47Speaker 06

  That's smart.

• 21:48Laci Mosley?

  Because if I, even if I set the alarm, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll do that later.

• 21:51Speaker 05

  Snooze, snooze, snooze.

• 21:51Laci Mosley?

  Never happens.

• 21:52Speaker 06

  I, I forgot what app I did that to, but they will ban you. Like if you've done that too many times.

• 21:57Speaker 05

  Ban you for what?

• 21:58Speaker 06

  Ban you for just, uh, agreeing to.

• 22:02Laci Mosley?

  The terms.

• 22:02Speaker 06

  We're doing the terms and then canceling.

• 22:05Speaker 05

  Well, if I canceled, I don't need the app no more. Y'all, I canceled you first. That's like being like, you're fired. I already quit. I got what I needed out the fridge.

• 22:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're like, I hit it first. You broke up with me, I broke up with you.

• 22:17Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's over.

• 22:19Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 22:19Speaker 05

  I said it first.

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• 23:56Laci Mosley?

  I love that. Okay, and then the last one, scam scheme or real thing? Waymos.

• 24:01Speaker 05

  Those cars with no people in them?

• 24:02Laci Mosley?

  Yes, the self-driving cars that we're starting to see emerge in major cities more and more. I know they definitely have them in Los Angeles, they have them in San Francisco. Do they have Waymos in New York?

• 24:11Speaker 05

  No. The mayor said absolutely the F not.

• 24:15Speaker 06

  Because our mayor makes sense and cares about our lives.

• 24:18Speaker 05

  Those things don't see black people.

• 24:20Laci Mosley?

  You know what?

• 24:22Speaker 05

  Famously, famously, this technology is made with the, with white men scientists or white men designers or, I don't know, engineers.

• 24:31Laci Mosley?

  It's just like how when you put your hands under an automatic sink, you gotta show the white part.

• 24:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, you gotta show the white part. They don't see dark skin.

• 24:37Speaker 06

  So that's why I've been having so many issues.

• 24:39Speaker 05

  That's why your hair is so dirty. Because you don't have.

• 24:42Speaker 06

  Now, that's not true. That's not true, but when I was on the cruise, I was having a hard time getting the soap, getting the water.

• 24:50Speaker 05

  Because black people don't cruise how white people cruise.

• 24:53Speaker 06

  The funny thing is-

• 24:54Laci Mosley?

  What do we even need water for?

• 24:55Speaker 05

  Hold on, the funny thing is, it's made for white skin versus dark skin. But I feel like, in my mind, in my personal black ass opinion, black people are more, um, what's the word? They're more likely to wash their hands than somebody beige anyway. So, I mean, I'm not gonna say that, you know, to the beige community.

• 25:13Laci Mosley?

  I know they're listening.

• 25:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, but, but I, I do agree that like, the, the hand thing, I'm like, come on now, you know we washing our hands, so it should have been for every-

• 25:20Speaker 06

  I'm just gonna say no to that, Marie, because they hit cats. And the cat, the cats was calico- The Waymos in San Francisco.

• 25:27Laci Mosley?

  The Waymos hit cats?

• 25:28Speaker 06

  It hit a cat, I think his name was Pepper.

• 25:30Speaker 05

  Because the calicoes are a little bit black.

• 25:32Laci Mosley?

  Damn.

• 25:34Speaker 06

  Marie.

• 25:35Speaker 05

  They hitting tuxedo cats too.

• 25:38Speaker 06

  Well, famously, you know, the black cats are really hard to adopt. They like, black cat, lives matter.

• 25:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, because it's so suspicious. They, if one crossed your path, then you gotta turn around the other way.

• 25:49Speaker 06

  Meanwhile, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, that cat lit, like, that should have-

• 25:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but he was up to shenanigans.

• 25:55Speaker 06

  He's not shenanigans, he was a good-

• 25:56Speaker 05

  Salem.

• 25:57Speaker 06

  Salem.

• 25:57Speaker 05

  Can I just say, I, I saw Caroline Ray-

• 26:00Laci Mosley?

  I love Caroline Ray, yeah.

• 26:01Speaker 05

  So she was one of the aunts on Sabrina, the Teenage Witch. She says people still come up to her, to this day, and they be like, was that cat real?

• 26:09Laci Mosley?

  Why would they think that?

• 26:10Speaker 06

  And that's why Waymo is not a scam or a scheme, because it's all the people. It's like, why would you get in a, in a car that does not have a driver? Why would you do that? You don't care about your life. Even if the car says, hey, we are self-driving, we gonna take care of everything, no. Why would I put my life on the line like that?

• 26:28Speaker 05

  But people use them.

• 26:29Laci Mosley?

  I saw TikTok, like, there was a Waymo that got pulled over by the police.

• 26:33Speaker 05

  Why?

• 26:34Laci Mosley?

  I said, no, I guess it was moving from side to side in the road, and I'm like, not the Waymo drunk? How you drunk and ain't nobody driving?

• 26:39Speaker 05

  That diesel fuel right there.

• 26:40Speaker 06

  No, no, who was in the back? Somebody black, that's what it was.

• 26:43Laci Mosley?

  No, it was white man.

• 26:44Speaker 06

  Oh, okay, nevermind.

• 26:46Speaker 05

  Sorry. But you know what?

• 26:49Laci Mosley?

  Black supremacist podcast.

• 26:52Laci Mosley?

  Grand prize.

• 26:53Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 26:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I personally just think that because we have so many greedy weird ass billionaires who have no like relationships to human like human nature or humanity anymore, they're just creating things that nobody ever asked for and nobody needs. I don't need a Waymo. I don't need a car on the road that can't drive.

• 27:11Speaker 06

  No, people did ask for this kinda cuz they tired of talking to the drivers, especially in LA. The way your drivers are actors. I'm a lawyer, I'm a doctor.

• 27:20Laci Mosley?

  The silence preferred.

• 27:22Speaker 06

  That's like Uber Black. Yeah, that's. That's black. We don't know. The X don't give you that option. We, we not even in Uber comfort.

• 27:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, wait, X, you gotta yap?

• 27:29Speaker 06

  Yes, oh yeah, no. No, I mean, you don't really have to yap. Put the Air, the Air Max Pros on.

• 27:33Laci Mosley?

  Remember the guy, we were in the Uber going to Zach's wedding and he started talking about, uh, he didn't vote for Kamala and then he was saying, uh, he was, he was transphobic, he was homophobic, he, he did all of that in 20 minutes tops, y'all. Why did he need y'all to know all of this?

• 27:51Speaker 06

  That's LA. We must've looked like industry.

• 27:53Laci Mosley?

  You answered the question for us, sis.

• 27:54Speaker 06

  We must've looked like industry, babe.

• 27:55Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 27:56Speaker 06

  He said, we need to know this. Hey, um, can we put the music on?

• 27:59Laci Mosley?

  But y'all are also black, so why he starting out with like, I ain't vote for that black lady?

• 28:03Speaker 06

  He wanted us as black women to know he didn't vote for the black lady.

• 28:06Laci Mosley?

  Cuz that's, that's comforting.

• 28:07Speaker 06

  And the Waymo would never, okay?

• 28:09Laci Mosley?

  So, actually.

• 28:10Speaker 06

  Well, to be fair, the Waymo also.

• 28:11Laci Mosley?

  Now, the Waymo's gonna drive you through a lake, but it, yeah.

• 28:14Speaker 06

  The Waymo also didn't vote for Kamala, so.

• 28:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the Waymo definitely didn't. The Waymo voted for Trump, for sure.

• 28:20Speaker 06

  Oh, for sure.

• 28:21Laci Mosley?

  And on that note, we're gonna get into my favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwings. This is where I'm gonna regale Sidney and Marie with a famous con caper, a group of criminals. And what a wonderful segue we just had here because we're talking about a med student in India in need of cash for school to immigrate to the US, created a fake MAGA influencer grift for conservatives online.

• 28:44Speaker 06

  Love it.

• 28:45Laci Mosley?

  Now, he said fake, so I'm like, I'm with you right now. So, this med student, he, he needed a smart idea. The scammer was 22-year-old aspiring bone and joint surgeon from northern India. He gave an interview to Wired Magazine but didn't use his real name. They called him Sam. And they said Sam has dreams of moving to the US after graduation and he doesn't want his money-making technique to threaten that plan. Okay, why you giving interviews if you don't want your money-making technique to threaten the plan?

• 29:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, what's wrong with him?

• 29:16Laci Mosley?

  Why you being loud?

• 29:17Speaker 06

  I don't want my bone and joint.

• 29:19Speaker 05

  Doctor to be this dumb.

• 29:20Laci Mosley?

  Med school is expensive everywhere, okay? Obviously, in, in India, it can cost like between fifty thousand dollars and two hundred thousand US to graduate, depending on what school you go to and how well you score on your tests. Okay, if you score better on your tests, it's cheaper, that's nice.

• 29:38Speaker 05

  They said school, oh, cool.

• 29:42Laci Mosley?

  So, that's a lot when the average annual income in India is about three thousand dollars. So Sam got some money from his parents, but he had to spend most of it to pay for medical licensing exams. He needed a side gig, so he tried making YouTube shorts and he sold study notes to other med students, but it wasn't cutting it. Other med students were doing the same thing and he needed an original idea, so when you need an original idea, where do you turn AI?

• 30:05Speaker 05

  I was gonna say ChatGPT.

• 30:07Laci Mosley?

  I was gonna say so many original ideas.

• 30:09Speaker 06

  I was gonna say OnlyFans.

• 30:10Speaker 05

  Well, if the YouTube tutorials is not working, you think the OnlyFans is gonna hit?

• 30:14Laci Mosley?

  It might, depending on your niche. If he had good feet, he could just keep his face out of.

• 30:18Speaker 06

  Girl, you gotta, you gotta show that belly button hole.

• 30:21Speaker 05

  You think people paying prime dollar for men's feet?

• 30:24Laci Mosley?

  You, I mean, there's men out there might wanna look at the foot too, and then you might have a dainty foot. I met a guy recently who had like foot, feet that definitely could be mistaken for like a beautiful woman's foot.

• 30:33Speaker 05

  Oh, an elegant foot?

• 30:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it got me to thinking, I was like.

• 30:36Speaker 05

  What you was thinking about, sis?

• 30:37Laci Mosley?

  Like if we kept his body out of it and it was just his pretty feet and I did the voiceover work, cuz my feet be giving like I'm dancing in glass, so.

• 30:47Speaker 06

  Dancing in the glasses.

• 30:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, girl, do we need to start a GoFundMe for your feet?

• 30:51Speaker 06

  Dancing in glass, I, mine is, you know, stepping on coal, but yours is dancing on glass?

• 30:57Speaker 05

  Y'all don't be getting the, the, the, the thing at the pedicure place?

• 31:01Laci Mosley?

  I get my regular pedicures.

• 31:03Speaker 05

  The callus remover?

• 31:04Speaker 06

  That's a, that's a scheme, it doesn't really work.

• 31:06Laci Mosley?

  Or it makes it grow back more.

• 31:08Speaker 06

  Faster.

• 31:09Speaker 05

  Sound like y'all got some rough feet on this side of the table.

• 31:12Laci Mosley?

  What, you ain't never did like the, the, you're a jerk, but like in glass, like.

• 31:15Speaker 05

  You need a pumice stone, that's what y'all need.

• 31:17Laci Mosley?

  I have that, I have all the foot stuff.

• 31:19Speaker 06

  No, we need prayer, that's what we need.

• 31:21Laci Mosley?

  I need some stuff.

• 31:22Speaker 05

  How, how often using the stone?

• 31:24Laci Mosley?

  When I get in the shower, so every day, yeah.

• 31:26Speaker 05

  Damn sis, you might gotta get a new stone.

• 31:30Laci Mosley?

  Ron Marie fixed my life now.

• 31:35Laci Mosley?

  So Sam tried making an AI-generated hot girl using Google Gemini's Nana Banana Pro. I've never heard of that, but it's a thing, so, right? So he was gonna try to sell bikini photos of her online, which is a classic strategy. Now I really hate it, cuz whose lady's face is this? And why y'all trying to AI her body on somebody else's body? Even already hated it with AI. So this is the hot girl that he picked. For a MAGA hot girl, I feel like that's perfect.

• 32:02Speaker 05

  Peak.

• 32:02Speaker 06

  Nah, she's actually too hot. MAGA girl, they never look like, like their eyebrows are not this symmetrical.

• 32:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they're not. Their eyebrows aren't even like...

• 32:11Speaker 05

  But she's young, she's a young MAGA. Y'all thinking about the elder wives.

• 32:15Speaker 06

  Oh, yes. No, you're right.

• 32:16Speaker 05

  And you know, the MAGA dudes need somebody who like 22.

• 32:19Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 32:20Speaker 05

  She's giving that.

• 32:20Speaker 06

  More so, more so 18, 17.

• 32:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, more so, yeah.

• 32:24Speaker 05

  Okay, let's say 19.

• 32:25Laci Mosley?

  Hmm, that's, we're being generous.

• 32:27Speaker 06

  Yes, we are.

• 32:29Laci Mosley?

  So there are endless how-to videos that show you how to create an AI influencer. So these are some how-to videos. I love that the AI influencers are all the same, like, white woman in a different font.

• 32:39Speaker 05

  To be fair though, that's what the brands be looking for.

• 32:40Laci Mosley?

  That is what they look for.

• 32:41Speaker 06

  Let's, let's talk about it.

• 32:43Laci Mosley?

  Which I don't understand, cuz how does the market not get oversaturated when so many of y'all look alike?

• 32:47Speaker 05

  Girl, you see them on TikTok, they all wear aloe, they all go to Pilates reformer, they all drink ice achatlat. They all look like that.

• 32:53Laci Mosley?

  They all got a Stanley cup.

• 32:55Speaker 06

  The house is cream, they cream. They don't use cream.

• 32:59Speaker 05

  They need cream.

• 33:00Laci Mosley?

  They're always like, everyone's always asking me about this product that I use. Everyone's always asking me about it. I'm like, who are these everyone's that be asking y'all about stuff? Why does every video start like that?

• 33:09Speaker 05

  They're 1.7 million followers.

• 33:11Laci Mosley?

  And they be asking them?

• 33:12Speaker 06

  Yes, do you see the comments?

• 33:14Laci Mosley?

  Where's it from? Where's the link?

• 33:16Speaker 05

  Song, question mark?

• 33:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 33:17Speaker 05

  Girl.

• 33:18Speaker 06

  Oh, no, that's me, I'm the song.

• 33:21Speaker 06

  There'll be like, somebody's grandma just died, and I'm like, yo, that song, though.

• 33:25Speaker 05

  They be like, where's your grandma's jeans from? What casket is that?

• 33:30Laci Mosley?

  What casket is that?

• 33:31Speaker 05

  They ask anything, it'll be like, what's the paint color? And it's like, whoa.

• 33:34Laci Mosley?

  They're just trying to get engagement.

• 33:36Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's true.

• 33:38Laci Mosley?

  What do casket from is?

• 33:39Speaker 05

  What a casket from? Casket brand?

• 33:41Laci Mosley?

  But then actually I have gone on a casket like dive on TikTok and they will tell you where the caskets are from. Or like.

• 33:47Speaker 05

  While there's a body in it or just bodyless?

• 33:50Speaker 06

  No, I like the one.

• 33:52Laci Mosley?

  To the bodyless ones from the one with the body in it and it'll be like a link like, look at this casket.

• 33:57Speaker 06

  Yes, but you have, you've seen the air.

• 33:58Speaker 05

  Although it's different than mine.

• 33:59Speaker 06

  The airbrush ones, have you seen those?

• 34:01Speaker 05

  Airbrush casket?

• 34:02Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, I'm getting that, babe.

• 34:03Speaker 05

  On the inside or the outside?

• 34:04Laci Mosley?

  Outside.

• 34:05Speaker 05

  What are you saying?

• 34:06Laci Mosley?

  On the outside, re, on the outside.

• 34:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 34:09Laci Mosley?

  It's like Pip my ride, but your last ride. To the ground forever.

• 34:13Speaker 05

  Pip my final ride.

• 34:14Speaker 06

  Yes, yes. And instead of it be like clouds in the sky, whatever, an angel, it's gonna be the dance club. It's gonna be a discotheque.

• 34:22Speaker 05

  It's gonna be that famous black painting of the people dancing.

• 34:25Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that's beautiful with the bodies like.

• 34:28Speaker 05

  That's what you get on the casket.

• 34:32Laci Mosley?

  I love that. That's a cute casket.

• 34:34Speaker 06

  Thank you, thank you.

• 34:36Laci Mosley?

  But I've been seeing them.

• 34:37Speaker 05

  I feel like it's custom, it's extra.

• 34:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they be wrapping them. I watched a girl who be wrapping the caskets.

• 34:42Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 34:42Speaker 05

  Like you wrap a car?

• 34:43Speaker 06

  Yeah. No, like you wrap a gyro.

• 34:45Speaker 05

  Candy painted casket.

• 34:46Speaker 06

  Gyro. And do you wrap it like a gyro? Ooh, you know what? I do like wings, so if somebody can spray paint some wings.

• 34:52Speaker 05

  You want wings? Like angel wings?

• 34:54Speaker 06

  No, no, no, like wings, like teriyaki, barbecue, buffalo. Have you heard? Garlic Parmesan.

• 35:01Speaker 05

  That's what I want.

• 35:02Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, we're in such late-stage capitalism that I might need my casket sponsored by Buffalo Wild Wings.

• 35:08Speaker 06

  Let's do it.

• 35:09Speaker 05

  I want my casket to look like Talladega Nights, baby.

• 35:12Laci Mosley?

  All the ads on there. She's sponsored by Nestle, yeah.

• 35:15Speaker 05

  Mango razors? That's crazy.

• 35:18Speaker 06

  You know why? Cause I'm gonna need that money in the afterlife as well.

• 35:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 35:21Speaker 05

  Bury me with it like King Tut.

• 35:22Laci Mosley?

  Right, everybody talking about you can't take it with you. You certainly can.

• 35:26Speaker 05

  Watch me.

• 35:26Speaker 06

  Hold on now. Bit.

• 35:28Laci Mosley?

  Right. You know how hard I worked to get this?

• 35:30Speaker 06

  Hey, bet, bet money.

• 35:33Laci Mosley?

  So they're like in this like how to videos on how to do this. Sam started out posting photos of a beautiful scantily clad woman on Instagram, but he wasn't getting any views. He asked Gemini, this is the AI app, for advice again. The answer was, if you create a generic hot girl, you're competing with millions of other models. So his generic hot, it was just like that, like we were saying with the like the blondie and the coffee and the swimsuit. That's not interesting enough no more because they got too many generic hot girls. At least that's what the computer said. Sam says he presented Gemini with a few possible options to give his model a personal flair. And the chat box selected MAGA conservative as the prompt, calling it a cheat code for making money.

• 36:19Laci Mosley?

  The AI app said the conservative audience, especially older men in the US, often has a higher disposable income and is more loyal.

• 36:27Speaker 06

  Oh, no, more loser. That's what it is.

• 36:30Speaker 05

  Yeah. You had to move the comma.

• 36:32Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 36:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, because I think it is loyal because think about it like they'll let you do anything to them. They'll let you lie to their faces. They'll let your gas prices go up like everybody else's. They'll take your pension, your 401K. They'll take your daughter.

• 36:46Speaker 05

  They'll make you raise your granddaughter, niece.

• 36:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but they're still like, I'm loyal to this because now this brand is a part of my identity. So if I say the brand is wrong, I'm saying that I'm wrong and everything I stood for is going to crumble.

• 36:58Speaker 05

  These are my rats. Yeah.

• 37:00Laci Mosley?

  Also, I feel like old conservative people in general would be less likely to be able to spot AI.

• 37:06Speaker 05

  Girl, AI is getting really good.

• 37:08Laci Mosley?

  It is, unfortunately.

• 37:10Speaker 05

  And I'll be like, oh, I didn't look at this cat. And then I'll be like, oh, wait.

• 37:13Laci Mosley?

  I have to read the comments and I know how many times I have to take my like back.

• 37:17Speaker 06

  Oh, no, no, no. You gotta stop liking everything. You cannot like everything. I had to stop my hands before I do this. I gotta read the comments.

• 37:26Laci Mosley?

  Fingers start shaking.

• 37:27Speaker 05

  I'm like, oh, my God, look at this cat swimming. And then I'm like, that's cool. And then this AI.

• 37:32Speaker 06

  Damn. Yeah, I did get caught with this dog going into a burning house. And then the dog comes out with the kid and then the dog died.

• 37:42Speaker 05

  Was the kid riding the dog or was the kid in the dog's mouth?

• 37:45Speaker 06

  The kid was in the dog's mouth.

• 37:48Speaker 05

  And that wasn't weird to you?

• 37:52Speaker 06

  Because he was pulling the kid out of the building.

• 37:54Speaker 05

  This whole lousy ass AI. He's holding the kid by the back of his neck.

• 38:01Speaker 06

  Like a cub, like a baby cub. And I said, oh my god. And then the dog died. I was crying. Yes, because it was in the fire.

• 38:09Speaker 05

  What kind of dog was it?

• 38:11Speaker 06

  It was, uh, what do you call it? The golden retriever?

• 38:15Speaker 05

  Damn, they made the dog come out. He was a black lab.

• 38:21Speaker 06

  The comments was like, good for him.

• 38:23Laci Mosley?

  Damn, Sydney, I wanted to be on your side with that one, but that one is a little wild.

• 38:27Speaker 05

  That's why I said, was the kid on the back of the dog?

• 38:29Speaker 06

  If the kid was on the back of the dog, that would also look like AI.

• 38:32Speaker 05

  No, that's AI, for sure.

• 38:34Laci Mosley?

  I keep seeing the one with the babies where they pick up pets and then they like try to throw the pet in the trash. Or they like... Oh, that wasn't real? No.

• 38:41Speaker 05

  Well, maybe there's a fake of what we saw that was real.

• 38:45Laci Mosley?

  Gotta be.

• 38:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:46Laci Mosley?

  Gotta be, but that one wasn't.

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• 40:21Speaker 05

  And run.

• 40:23Laci Mosley?

  So Emily Hart.

• 40:26Speaker 05

  Right.

• 40:26Laci Mosley?

  This is who Sam created Emily Hart, a fake registered nurse who looks like Jennifer Lawrence.

• 40:32Speaker 05

  Does she?

• 40:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 40:33Speaker 05

  That's what Jennifer Lawrence is like.

• 40:35Laci Mosley?

  I don't think, I think, I think that's what the chatbot was trying to get her to. So he got her in a

• 40:40Speaker 05

  Body tea.

• 40:40Laci Mosley?

  Body tea. Face tea. He got her in American flag swimsuits.

• 40:44Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 40:45Laci Mosley?

  I mean, honestly, he picked a great career because it's a lot of MAGA nurses. So that was

• 40:51Speaker 06

  No, but the glove lean black, nah.

• 40:53Speaker 05

  That's giving tattoo artists.

• 40:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 06

  Or that's giving, uh, that's giving O.J. Simpson.

• 40:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's where the AI is the

• 41:00Speaker 06

  Proper glove.

• 41:01Speaker 05

  Well, I

• 41:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're right. It's tattoo artist, it's lash technician, it's hairstylist.

• 41:07Speaker 05

  Because why you don't want to see the blood on the glove? The blood is on the dance floor for sure.

• 41:11Laci Mosley?

  That felt very pointed the way you said that, Sydney. People who are doing your feet.

• 41:14Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 41:16Speaker 05

  Your feet?

• 41:17Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 41:18Speaker 05

  Her feet.

• 41:18Speaker 06

  Oh, y'all's feet.

• 41:19Laci Mosley?

  It's also like

• 41:20Speaker 05

  She tap dancing on glass.

• 41:22Laci Mosley?

  It's also like, and then like you see the peace sign, how the fingers are held.

• 41:26Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 41:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's not how fingers do peace signs.

• 41:29Speaker 05

  Oh, that's not how to, oh, that's, that's not

• 41:31Laci Mosley?

  So look at how like

• 41:33Speaker 05

  Wait, which hand is that? This one? Okay.

• 41:35Speaker 06

  That feels right.

• 41:36Speaker 05

  Girl, my fingers look like that?

• 41:37Laci Mosley?

  No, because like the This part right here

• 41:41Speaker 06

  Uh huh.

• 41:41Laci Mosley?

  Is like really up.

• 41:43Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 41:44Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 41:44Laci Mosley?

  Like it's not what your hand looks like.

• 41:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, but that's like a bubble, you know, like an air bubble.

• 41:49Laci Mosley?

  Are you sure?

• 41:49Speaker 05

  Maybe her thumb is there. Oh, wait, no, it's not.

• 41:51Laci Mosley?

  No, zoom in further on the hand.

• 41:53Speaker 06

  The hand looks bigger. Like these hands don't look like they match her, actually.

• 41:58Laci Mosley?

  Look at that.

• 41:58Speaker 05

  And black is a slimming color. They shouldn't look this big.

• 42:00Laci Mosley?

  Also, it looks like she's missing a finger in this peace sign.

• 42:03Speaker 05

  Well, you know, famously, AI don't know how to do hands.

• 42:05Laci Mosley?

  But it's getting better at hands. This hand isn't as bad. As the hands used to be, it was always like six fingers or two of the fingers were blended together and stuff. But this does look like a random dude's, it looks like a tattoo artist's hand and they put it on her.

• 42:17Speaker 05

  Also, her boobs look bigger in the scrubs than the bikini. That shouldn't, I feel like it shouldn't be that way.

• 42:23Laci Mosley?

  Cause she could have a bra.

• 42:25Speaker 05

  I feel like they should look bigger in the bikini then.

• 42:27Speaker 06

  No better than a man.

• 42:29Speaker 05

  I'm no better than a MAGA dad.

• 42:32Laci Mosley?

  So.

• 42:32Speaker 05

  Call me Earl.

• 42:34Laci Mosley?

  On an Instagram account for Emily, Sam posted photos of her ice fishing, drinking Coors Light, and shooting a gun at the rifle range with the captions like, "If you want a reason to unfollow, Christ is king, abortion is murder, and all illegals must be deported."

• 42:52Speaker 05

  Oh, that's all the greatest hits right there.

• 42:54Speaker 06

  I know that went viral.

• 42:56Laci Mosley?

  Right?

• 42:56Speaker 06

  Triple platinum.

• 42:58Laci Mosley?

  She said, "I am a girl's girl. I will be hot. I won't talk. I'm a bigot." Or like a man's girl, like.

• 43:07Speaker 06

  She drinking Miller's Light? I know that pH balance is off.

• 43:10Speaker 05

  That's like a little thin for the snow, ain't it?

• 43:12Laci Mosley?

  Right? Yeah, like how are you in the middle of like a frozen lake and you're wearing like a Forever 21 puffer?

• 43:19Speaker 05

  You hear me?

• 43:19Speaker 06

  They do it though. They do it.

• 43:20Speaker 05

  They do, they do do that.

• 43:22Laci Mosley?

  White people will be in the snow in a flip flop.

• 43:24Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 43:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you know what?

• 43:26Speaker 06

  I saw it in Alaska. I swear to you.

• 43:29Speaker 05

  Sweater, sweater guy?

• 43:30Speaker 06

  They was in a puffer up top, thongs in the bottom.

• 43:33Laci Mosley?

  I think that's the equivalent of how like black people like to stick one leg out of the covers at night to keep the body temperature regulated.

• 43:39Speaker 05

  That's not a body thing?

• 43:40Speaker 06

  I don't know. I just hear that we do. I know I do it.

• 43:43Speaker 05

  You?

• 43:43Speaker 03

  I've done that, yeah.

• 43:44Speaker 05

  And you are?

• 43:45Speaker 03

  I'm Mexican.

• 43:46Speaker 05

  Mexican, okay? Como se dice?

• 43:51Laci Mosley?

  I can't take you nowhere.

• 43:55Laci Mosley?

  I can't take them nowhere. So, Sam was studying the American mindset because remember he's from India. Like, so this is not, he's actually really nailing this shit for not being from the country. He's never lived in the US and he became a student of the MAGA ideology. So that he could write captions that were pro-Christian, pro-Second Amendment, pro-life, anti-abortion. Anti-woke, AKA anti-niggers. And, and anti-immigration. Now, what I love about this is MAGA is such an easy study because like, I feel like in, what they do is it's always America flag, brr, uh, hate the, hate the, make the libs cry. Like, it's like, it's such a script where nobody's even saying or doing anything different.

• 44:40Speaker 05

  But you know what? This showing up on somebody's homepage, or their, you know what I mean, their search page, you know they smashing that like button.

• 44:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, hell yeah.

• 44:48Speaker 05

  They smashing that, and now they're on her page, and now that's how this, like, woo.

• 44:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, cuz it works. He said, Sam said, "Every reel I posted was getting 3 million views, 5 million views, 10 million views. The algorithm loved it."

• 45:02Speaker 06

  Damn, let me change my caption.

• 45:03Laci Mosley?

  Damn, you know what?

• 45:05Speaker 05

  No, girl, you had a, you had a Michael Jackson in it. Go ahead and change my, uh, my avatar.

• 45:09Laci Mosley?

  I gotta do this ethically, but maybe I could just go in the app and like Photoshop my photos to make me look like a white, like start a new page where I'm a MAGA white lady, and then get my money up over there.

• 45:20Speaker 06

  I could see that, actually. Will you look like, will you look like Michael Jackson?

• 45:25Laci Mosley?

  Nah, I could feel like I get the color right.

• 45:28Speaker 05

  You said what?

• 45:28Laci Mosley?

  Cuz I'ma do it in the app.

• 45:30Speaker 06

  Right.

• 45:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 45:31Speaker 06

  And you don't think the app is gonna get it wrong?

• 45:32Laci Mosley?

  Hmm, I'ma do it manually.

• 45:34Speaker 06

  Okay. Manually, hmm.

• 45:36Laci Mosley?

  I'ma make sure I don't miss no spots. Listen, we'll work through this, but I think this is a good strategy.

• 45:40Speaker 06

  The way she's sitting is definitely looking like, "I also peg you."

• 45:44Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 45:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, and they like that.

• 45:45Speaker 05

  And they like that.

• 45:47Speaker 06

  No, they love that.

• 45:48Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Within a month, Emily Hart had more than 10,000 Instagram followers, many of whom also subscribed to her softcore AI-generated content on the OnlyFans competitor, FanView.

• 46:02Speaker 05

  What the hell is that?

• 46:04Speaker 06

  That's a T-Mo OnlyFans.

• 46:09Speaker 05

  FanView. OnlyFans? No, FanView.

• 46:14Speaker 06

  And it's the OnlyFans doop?

• 46:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they, they wrong for that. So OnlyFans requires AI disclosure, and creators need to authenticate their identity before joining, but FanView...

• 46:28Speaker 05

  Said, "Come as you are with your robot ass."

• 46:32Laci Mosley?

  FanView said, "We ain't never gonna ask you to pick out the stoplights in a photo, okay?"

• 46:36Speaker 06

  Phew, it's with an F, not a V.

• 46:39Speaker 05

  AI stands for anybody, any time.

• 46:46Laci Mosley?

  So the profitability of Emily's posts, basically, they weren't posted as AI-generated, of course. And Sam says he couldn't monetize her account on Instagram itself, of course. But from other outlets, Sam estimated he was making a few thousand dollars a month. He used Grok AI. Damn, he was using every, he destroying the planet.

• 47:04Speaker 06

  Don't listen to him.

• 47:05Laci Mosley?

  God, I know they hate your ass in Memphis.

• 47:08Laci Mosley?

  So he was using Grok 2 to generate nude photos of Emily and upload them to FanVoo with fans sending him payments for exclusive content and exchanging messages.

• 47:18Speaker 06

  For how much, though?

• 47:19Laci Mosley?

  So he said he was making a few thousand a month. And in India, that's, that's, you know, for the wage there, that was, that was a good amount of money. Also, he is using the Instagram followers to drive traffic to the FanVoo, which is what a lot of OnlyFans people do. They'll use Twitter, or they'll use, or I call it what his mama called him.

• 47:38Speaker 06

  Twitter.

• 47:38Laci Mosley?

  Or they'll use Instagram, or Snapchat, or whatever, to drive fans to the content that's behind the paywall.

• 47:44Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:45Laci Mosley?

  So, he says that he made a few thousand dollars on the account in a few days, though he did not enjoy the interactive aspects.

• 47:53Speaker 06

  He lying. He, uh, come on now. I know he was feeling like a bad bitch. He was like, you know what? He was responding back to the messages like, eh.

• 48:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 48:03Speaker 06

  He said, you know it's tea when the two fingers touching. All some real fast shit.

• 48:15Speaker 06

  He's like, you nasty.

• 48:19Speaker 06

  He said, I'm conceited. I got a reason. He said, you kiss your mama with that mouth?

• 48:27Laci Mosley?

  He said, once a guy sent him a video with Emily's nude on a tablet on a pillow, and he was basically recording himself fucking the pillow.

• 48:37Speaker 06

  Wait, what kind of pillow was this?

• 48:38Laci Mosley?

  It was incredibly weird.

• 48:39Speaker 06

  Body pillow.

• 48:40Laci Mosley?

  But Sam says, he sent me a $50 tip, so I was like, okay, do what you want.

• 48:45Speaker 06

  $50 for me to watch you have sex with a pillow and an iPad? Yeah, I feel like it should be a lot of money. If you got iPad money, you got a little bit more. Come up off that bread. Yeah, can we get like at least 200?

• 48:54Laci Mosley?

  Cause why not? I gotta watch it.

• 48:56Speaker 06

  Yeah. Why am I in it? You could've did this by yourself. Cause he trying to be in you. Nah, you trying to be in that pillow.

• 49:05Laci Mosley?

  Sam also sold MAGA-themed t-shirts. One t-shirt said PTSD, which meant "pretty tired of stupid Democrats."

• 49:14Speaker 05

  Oh, that's a bar, though.

• 49:18Laci Mosley?

  He kinda ate with that one. That's how you know he's not a real MAGA American, because they don't come up with nothing that's lab.

• 49:23Speaker 06

  Nothing so cool, yeah.

• 49:24Speaker 05

  The merch trash on this side.

• 49:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 49:26Speaker 05

  Let's get some Lift Strong PTSD bracelets, for real.

• 49:30Laci Mosley?

  Sam, you honestly, you really studied them, and you elevated them.

• 49:33Speaker 05

  Nah, Grok did that. That's Grok.

• 49:36Laci Mosley?

  Sam said that with fan room and t-shirts, he was making more than people with professional jobs that, like, they usually would make in India. Emily Hart is one of those, like, AI-generated hot-girl MAGA influencers on social media, thanks to young tech scammers that Sam is capitalizing off of, like, the pro-Trump sentiment. The AI influencers are usually white and blonde, with jobs as emergency responders, cops, firefighters, or EMTs. They also incorporate right-wing views in all their content, from immigration to Epstein to pronouns, while posing in American flag bikinis or MAGA hats or both.

• 50:16Laci Mosley?

  And I didn't like that, apparently, the demo is, like, all, like, helpers.

• 50:22Speaker 05

  Because that really be the truth.

• 50:23Laci Mosley?

  And it is.

• 50:24Speaker 05

  He's not lying.

• 50:25Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes people get in the healthcare industry because they want power. Not to help, they want to have power over you in your weakest moment. It's a real thing.

• 50:33Speaker 05

  Listen.

• 50:33Laci Mosley?

  The nurse-to-cop pipeline, like, the asshole-to-cop-to-nurse.

• 50:37Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:38Laci Mosley?

  That's where they go. To ICE.

• 50:40Speaker 06

  Well, that, they don't have any skills. That's just anybody who does.

• 50:43Speaker 05

  But you don't really need skills to be a cop.

• 50:45Laci Mosley?

  No, you don't.

• 50:46Speaker 05

  There's no, it's a skill.

• 50:46Laci Mosley?

  They actually, sometimes, if you take the police exam and you're, like, a little too, like, independent-thinking, you won't get in.

• 50:52Speaker 06

  No.

• 50:52Speaker 05

  Well...

• 50:53Laci Mosley?

  They want soldiers.

• 50:54Speaker 06

  Mm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

• 50:56Laci Mosley?

  And that's associated with soldiers, there's a lot of smart soldiers. I'm just saying, like, in the, in the sense of, like, they want you to hive mind. So, part of the reason that these accounts work so well is how few real young women are in the MAGA community. Eighteen-to-twenty-nine-year-old women are overwhelmingly liberal. Sam did try to create a liberal counterpart for Emily's Instagram, but she didn't last long. Democrats could spot the AI and didn't engage with the account.

• 51:21Speaker 06

  Smart. Is this AI? Yeah.

• 51:24Speaker 05

  To ask that question feels very Democrat.

• 51:27Laci Mosley?

  Also, I feel like the playbook of the Republicans is so easy. They have a few buzzwords that they stick to and they don't really deviate. If you come over to the Democratic side, you're gonna get into a whole lot of jargon that you ain't seen before. It's gonna be some intersectionality here, some affordable housing here, some, some income disparity there. It's a little hard. You can't just come over and be like, own the reps. Like, we're not gonna love that.

• 51:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, damn.

• 51:53Laci Mosley?

  So, Trump himself fell for it when he reposted the fake Swifties for Trump on Truth Social during the 2024 campaign. And I remember, he always posts an AI though, so I don't even know if he followed.

• 52:06Speaker 06

  Yeah. He said, "I love these things. They look like real pictures. They gave me abs."

• 52:10Speaker 05

  Didn't he post himself as God and then he was like, "No, that's me as a doctor."

• 52:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was Jesus. He was like, "No, I'm a doctor."

• 52:15Speaker 05

  I'm like, "They're literally praying around you in this photo."

• 52:18Laci Mosley?

  Also, you're not a doctor.

• 52:21Speaker 05

  You're a dumbass.

• 52:22Laci Mosley?

  So it still wouldn't make sense, sir.

• 52:24Speaker 06

  You know he got an Android. His whole vibe is Android.

• 52:27Laci Mosley?

  It really is.

• 52:28Speaker 05

  The pictures come out better.

• 52:29Speaker 06

  He posted from the iPad.

• 52:31Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, you know his vibe.

• 52:32Speaker 06

  Big as fuck.

• 52:34Laci Mosley?

  He probably gotta scroll to spell a word.

• 52:36Speaker 06

  And you know he's got a Dell laptop. He's, he don't have an Apple. Not at all.

• 52:40Laci Mosley?

  He ain't be fooling with that.

• 52:44Laci Mosley?

  Not Dell. Don't do Dell like that. Even though Dell did donate to MAGA, so Dell.

• 52:48Speaker 06

  So it's a Dell.

• 52:49Laci Mosley?

  So fuck out, it's a Dell.

• 52:50Speaker 06

  It's a mega Maga Dell.

• 52:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 52:52Speaker 06

  Didn't he get in a Tesla and he was like, "It's all computer." Everything's computer.

• 53:00Laci Mosley?

  Not the cutooder, no.

• 53:02Speaker 06

  We should put Trump in a Waymo. Please, cuz you know they don't know how to use the guns no more.

• 53:08Laci Mosley?

  In a flood. And see if the Waymo can get around.

• 53:12Speaker 06

  What? What? I said, put him in a Waymo because assassins, the shooters don't shoot.

• 53:18Laci Mosley?

  They hiring them shooters.

• 53:20Speaker 06

  They not even hiring, they hiring them from Craigslist too.

• 53:22Laci Mosley?

  No, but they don't want them to land any shots. They hiring them for sympathy. Every time, like his approval ratings are so fucking low that the White House Correspondents Dinner had to be an excuse for them to let in. Now.

• 53:33Speaker 06

  Scheme.

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  I don't know why.

• 53:35Speaker 06

  You know that probably getting the actors from Backpage. Ooh. Backstage, yes.

• 53:40Laci Mosley?

  Backpage also. They feel a little bit more desperate.

• 53:43Speaker 06

  It's Craigslist, misconnections. People be sending me stuff from Backstage. I'm like, no, baby, I have an A.

• 53:52Speaker 06

  Hey, did you see this for your sketch? No, no, no, no.

• 53:54Laci Mosley?

  No, I'm good.

• 53:55Speaker 06

  Your skits? Yeah.

• 53:56Laci Mosley?

  Your skits?

• 53:57Speaker 06

  Background, background, background.

• 53:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm okay. But we all gotta start somewhere. I've answered some of them in the beginning.

• 54:02Speaker 06

  I've passed there, baby.

• 54:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. But, no, and this makes sense because the approval ratings were shit. It's the White House Correspondents Dinner. They set that man up. I don't think that was a real shooting. And he didn't injure anybody. Everybody was moving too slow and too chill for like a shooting. And then immediately he does a press conference that night talking about, this is why we need the White House Ballroom. And like, how does that?

• 54:23Speaker 06

  That's how you, that's how you promote in the ballroom?

• 54:26Laci Mosley?

  Cause he wants to use taxpayer dollars for it. And remember his whole campaign about the ballroom was that he was getting private donor money. Then all of a sudden, a staged shooting happens and then immediately after he's on a podium talking about how we need to have paid for the ballroom.

• 54:39Speaker 06

  The judge said, we don't have to, like something about unless it's a national security risk, the ballroom don't need to be completed. So then the shooting happened and he's like, see, we need the ballroom.

• 54:49Laci Mosley?

  National security risk. I mean, how do we have a black ass president for two terms? And I'm sure there were some like attempts on his life that were like obviously covered up. But how do you have three public attempts in your second term? Didn't have any in the first. I think he realized like every time the scam was kind of working a little bit, he was like, okay, they mad about food.

• 55:06Speaker 06

  Well, the thing, first of all, you know, it was when, when they tried to get him out of there and he was trying to hit a, hit a pose? He said, get the shot, get the flag behind me.

• 55:14Laci Mosley?

  Where you see the photographers running over as the shooting is happening so they can make sure they get that flick off?

• 55:19Speaker 06

  And then it's like a little bit of ketchup coming across his face like this from the ear.

• 55:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 55:25Laci Mosley?

  They had other fake MAGA babes. Ew, they had their fake MAGA whatever. So, um, they're multiplying now. A Washington Post article flagged the rise in of like Jessica Foster, a leggy blonde Army service member who went viral for posting a selfie with Trump and Putin.

• 55:44Speaker 05

  That looks fake AF.

• 55:45Speaker 06

  Yeah, the legs don't match everything else.

• 55:48Speaker 05

  It's like a BBL for a picture. Like, they not even, what?

• 55:51Speaker 06

  The legs don't match.

• 55:53Speaker 05

  She's not going where he's going. Where are they walking toward?

• 55:56Laci Mosley?

  I will say one thing, though. They did get the wind right. Cause the wind seems to be blowing in the same direction, her hair and his coat tail.

• 56:04Speaker 05

  It's just going straight back, sis. I could've done that.

• 56:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 56:06Laci Mosley?

  That's true.

• 56:07Speaker 06

  The legs is giving a woman who's biracial, though. I will say, like, it got some shape.

• 56:11Speaker 05

  You don't think she has tights on?

• 56:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she has tights on.

• 56:14Speaker 06

  She has tights on, but tights don't give you shape like that. Like, there's thigh meat there.

• 56:18Speaker 05

  Oh, you think she's biracial, so she got thigh meat?

• 56:20Speaker 06

  They're gonna give hot dog legs.

• 56:21Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 56:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 56:23Speaker 05

  For sure.

• 56:23Speaker 06

  Hot dogs are legs.

• 56:25Laci Mosley?

  Also, as someone who's had to don this military uniform on television, that skirt is way too fucking short.

• 56:32Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 56:33Speaker 05

  Well, she got it from Pretty Little Thing.

• 56:34Laci Mosley?

  Like, this AGSCU, this is not, or ACU's rather, this is not it. Like, it would definitely be real close to her knee.

• 56:41Speaker 06

  That's a Fashion Nova costume of that.

• 56:43Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 56:44Speaker 05

  I know, I know my kind.

• 56:46Laci Mosley?

  Right, like, why your hot pocket finna be out in a military dress? Be for real.

• 56:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 56:51Laci Mosley?

  I'm sure if we even zoomed in on the patches, you could tell that those aren't real, like, you know, decorations.

• 56:56Speaker 05

  Girl scout patches.

• 56:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 56:57Laci Mosley?

  And like, she's also been taking photos, she, this AI thing, with Trump and Putin. Her Instagram account was clearly fake, but it garnered more than a million followers in just over four months.

• 57:08Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 57:09Laci Mosley?

  Jessica started promoting feet pics.

• 57:11Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 57:12Laci Mosley?

  And now the account has been taken down. But don't worry, Jessica Foster has joined FanVoo.

• 57:20Speaker 05

  You can still vuh her.

• 57:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 57:22Speaker 05

  Vuh ne vuh kushe y'all back ahy.

• 57:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 57:24Laci Mosley?

  Another popular account was MayflowerMommy13.

• 57:29Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 57:30Laci Mosley?

  That's so much. And it featured brief photos of a brunette woman, and I love how you just use-

• 57:35Speaker 06

  Wait, wait, wait. Mayflower like Christopher Columbus?

• 57:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 57:39Speaker 06

  Bitch, now, now they gone too far.

• 57:41Laci Mosley?

  Also, if you gonna say y'all originally, y'all belong here, how you gonna cite the boat that brought your bitch ass over here?

• 57:47Speaker 06

  Okay, but they're like, we the first boat.

• 57:49Laci Mosley?

  We the original.

• 57:51Speaker 05

  They were like, we got shotgun, we got here first. Shotgun!

• 57:58Speaker 05

  They said, we was the Quakers, babe.

• 58:00Speaker 06

  Uh huh.

• 58:00Laci Mosley?

  Right, we were the original colonizers, therefore-

• 58:03Speaker 05

  They say Pocahontas and them wanted us here.

• 58:06Speaker 06

  They loved us. They asked for us.

• 58:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 58:09Laci Mosley?

  I took a tour in Hawaii, and on the road to Hana, there was a tour, we had, it was like a private car, and so this, um, cute little white man had a speaker headset on, and he was just giving us the history and pointing out the water fountains and pointing out the trees and all this shit, right? But during it too, he was like trying to give like a little history, and some of the history would be about the landscape, the volcanoes and things that happened. But sometimes he would be like, yes, and the Hawaiian natives believed that a god would show up as a white man on a ship. And we were like, ay, ay, ay, dawg.

• 58:37Speaker 05

  The Hawaiian natives thought that?

• 58:39Laci Mosley?

  Ay, dawg.

• 58:39Speaker 06

  No, ain't no way.

• 58:40Speaker 05

  Moana, I done seen none of that in Moana.

• 58:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 58:42Speaker 05

  We gonna have to stop you right there, hey. I'ma let you finish, but please stop.

• 58:46Laci Mosley?

  I'm actually not, we did not let him finish.

• 58:47Speaker 06

  Good.

• 58:48Laci Mosley?

  We were like, do you see this black ass car? You do please don't lie to us, okay?

• 58:52Speaker 06

  Don't give us with this Walt Disney mix, okay?

• 58:54Speaker 05

  This was the tour guide?

• 58:55Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 58:55Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 58:56Laci Mosley?

  But it was like a private tour, so we were just in like a big SUV, and he had on a little headset, and he was driving us up the road to Hana.

• 59:02Speaker 05

  And who would play him in a movie?

• 59:03Laci Mosley?

  Oh, lord, um, who would play him in a movie? Oh damn, I know who it would be, but I do not know his name, and it's no point in trying that one. Maybe like a older, uh, lumpier Jack Black.

• 59:16Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 59:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, girl, that's, that's not a native to Hawaii.

• 59:18Laci Mosley?

  No, he looked white, he was not a native.

• 59:20Speaker 06

  He said he was, yeah.

• 59:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he said he was.

• 59:22Speaker 05

  Jack Black? Yeah.

• 59:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but I'm, but like a worse, like, I think Jack Black is a fine looking man.

• 59:27Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 59:27Laci Mosley?

  Um, but I'm saying like a, if I'm talking build and like, like an otter, like, you know, but like an older otter.

• 59:32Speaker 06

  Don't do that to my otters.

• 59:35Speaker 05

  What'd they do to you?

• 59:38Speaker 05

  Take that back. And Lacey, if you want to make that joke, you have to pay $200.

• 59:42Laci Mosley?

  $200. You're right. I haven't paid my dues to make that joke.

• 59:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 59:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so MayflowerMommy13, this account featured brief videos of a brunette woman in a car or in her kitchen, looking flirty with captions like, "If this American flag emoji is your pride flag, I want to be friends. Let's MAGA." When you said this, I was like, "If this world were mine."

• 1:00:15Laci Mosley?

  "If this MAGA was mine."

• 1:00:18Speaker 05

  "If this MAGA was mine."

• 1:00:24Speaker 05

  "Catherine, we need you on the remix, baby."

• 1:00:28Laci Mosley?

  So, I will say though, that caption is like, kind of fire, because MAGA captions don't be that spicy. Like, "If this and then the American flag emoji is your pride flag." Like, "Pride be merkin." Okay.

• 1:00:41Speaker 05

  I don't like it.

• 1:00:41Laci Mosley?

  I don't like it, but I'm saying like, it's better than what they usually be coming up with.

• 1:00:45Speaker 05

  The caption is definitely catchy, for sure.

• 1:00:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So, RIP Emily Hart. In February, Emily's account was officially banned after Instagram flagged it for fraudulent activity, though her Facebook account is still active. Of course, her Facebook account is still active.

• 1:01:00Speaker 05

  Let me see what the Facebook look like.

• 1:01:01Laci Mosley?

  Facebook ain't gonna stop doing no crimes.

• 1:01:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:03Laci Mosley?

  So Sam says, "Even if her account had not been banned, he probably would have stopped posting anyway." He has no regrets, but he says that he needs to focus more on his studies. Yeah, what happened to them bones you was trying to cut on? He totally missed the plot.

• 1:01:16Speaker 05

  He's, I feel like he has plenty of money now.

• 1:01:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. He said if he were still in the AI slop grifter game, he believes that pro-Nazi, pro-Hitler content has been getting especially high engagement on platforms like Reels and AI hot girl Nazi influencers would do huge numbers. Now he made projections.

• 1:01:35Speaker 06

  All of this sounds bad.

• 1:01:36Laci Mosley?

  Like, that's how you know you can't connect with humanity. When y'all are literally over here jerking it to some pixels, to some zeros and some ones. Like, y'all lost the plot.

• 1:01:45Speaker 05

  They in the matrix, baby. You know how they do.

• 1:01:47Laci Mosley?

  But see, they be wanting to, like, well, the normal freakies, I'm not shitting, yuckin' your yum. But the normal freakies want to engage with a real person because they trying to like, you know, "Hold up today's newspaper, baby, and tell me you miss my smile." You know, like, they want.

• 1:02:01Speaker 05

  Nah, these dudes gonna, they using they, um, they Medicaid, they using they, their pension to pay for this. And they're like, "Look at that, she looks like my," you know what I mean?

• 1:02:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, weird shit.

• 1:02:12Speaker 05

  If I was just 20 years younger, and it's like...

• 1:02:15Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna say I like this scam, Sam, for you. Because anytime we're grifting the fascist, like, period, take their money. Take more of it. Honestly, I don't know why Instagram banned it. I want them to be draining their resources so they can't use them to harm us.

• 1:02:30Speaker 06

  But somehow they keep getting money. Like, it never, it never goes dry. Yeah, the embezzlement, yes, yeah.

• 1:02:36Speaker 05

  It's embezzlement?

• 1:02:37Laci Mosley?

  Embezzlement?

• 1:02:38Speaker 05

  It's them PPP loans. They still got that PPP money leftover.

• 1:02:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:02:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like, they really only sent, like, the rappers to jail for the PPP, for real.

• 1:02:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's just like, so many people in Atlanta, but hey, have you tried Missouri?

• 1:02:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, they don't. Khloe Kardashian got to keep her PPP.

• 1:02:54Speaker 05

  Who got her PPP?

• 1:02:55Laci Mosley?

  Khloe Kardashian got to keep her PPP.

• 1:02:57Speaker 05

  Now, what was the PPP for? The cloud? Puff what?

• 1:02:59Laci Mosley?

  I guess for companies.

• 1:03:01Speaker 05

  What companies?

• 1:03:02Laci Mosley?

  Because she had to keep her companies afloat. Like, you know, she got Good American.

• 1:03:05Speaker 06

  Oh, Good American.

• 1:03:06Speaker 05

  She got a PPP loan for that, from G?

• 1:03:08Laci Mosley?

  She got a PPP loan for their companies.

• 1:03:10Speaker 05

  The Emma Grady girl, weren't they together?

• 1:03:14Laci Mosley?

  All I know is that Kim K, or, I mean, Khloe K has some PPP loans, and they were forgiven.

• 1:03:19Speaker 05

  Forgiven?

• 1:03:20Laci Mosley?

  And she's not the only one.

• 1:03:21Speaker 05

  Listen, I wake up many days a week, and my only regret in life is that I didn't get a PPP loan.

• 1:03:27Laci Mosley?

  I actually am glad you didn't, because they would have hauled your black ass away.

• 1:03:31Speaker 05

  I don't know, I would have used Grok to figure out how to get out of that.

• 1:03:33Speaker 06

  No, Marie, you would have, you would have took an edible and been like, "Y'all, they should have never gave me no money."

• 1:03:42Speaker 05

  I think I would, the caption would be, if this is your pride flag and it's a money emoji, then holla at me, get with me.

• 1:03:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, Marie, your whole social media, we used against you in court. They'd be like, here, we got you flexing. You're rolling around in money right here and it says PPP, bitches. And then we looked at your search history and it's like, Grock, how to do PPE fraud.

• 1:04:02Speaker 05

  Oh, good, no. I would do, I would search for that in invisible inches. FBI can't see invisible inches.

• 1:04:10Speaker 06

  No, she would be in a pile of money like, hide the money, y'all, the pores have signed.

• 1:04:16Speaker 05

  Me sneezing into a hundred dollar bill.

• 1:04:20Speaker 06

  You'd be like, there will be signs, hashtag.

• 1:04:26Speaker 05

  Wait till I start my mega account. Y'all not gonna be able to tell me nothing. She gonna get the PPP loan.

• 1:04:29Speaker 06

  Get me in there, sis. I'll be there too.

• 1:04:31Laci Mosley?

  I feel like we could really put some sauce on it.

• 1:04:34Speaker 06

  Guys, we promised we would only do it for a month. We won't go crazy.

• 1:04:37Laci Mosley?

  And it's only to say, it's just a grift of grifters. We're just trying to rob a hood. Rubbing it out hood. I don't know, I tried it.

• 1:04:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, I see where you was going with it. I appreciate it.

• 1:04:47Speaker 06

  We support you.

• 1:04:48Laci Mosley?

  Some people will catch it in a moment. Well, thank you guys so much for being here today. It's always a treat to see your faces. And we got to do a double feature because I want to be on the mess too.

• 1:04:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, and you're great on it. I can't wait to listen to this episode and see all the stuff you cut out. It's gonna be so much.

• 1:05:05Laci Mosley?

  It's sad, this is like 15 minutes.

• 1:05:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:05:07Speaker 05

  It's gonna be, did they say anything?

• 1:05:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's really quiet over there.

• 1:05:11Speaker 05

  Marie didn't say not one thing the whole episode.

• 1:05:14Speaker 06

  And was Cindy even in the room?

• 1:05:19Laci Mosley?

  See, that's a curse. If we be doing stand up, you be getting for the room too.

• 1:05:22Speaker 05

  LOL.

• 1:05:23Speaker 06

  Hey, I made everybody smile in here today.

• 1:05:25Laci Mosley?

  You did.

• 1:05:26Speaker 06

  And that's what matters.

• 1:05:27Speaker 05

  Minimum once.

• 1:05:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'll get booked for something else.

• 1:05:30Laci Mosley?

  Multiple times, absolutely. So, we always ask on this podcast, where would you like to be found? Any socials, obviously the podcast, all of those things.

• 1:05:38Speaker 06

  Everybody, everybody follow Mess. Uh, our Instagram is Ooh Mess. Uh, so that's uh, O O H Mess. Right? And then follow me, Sydney, at Just SidBW, J U S T S Y D B W. And uh, yeah, I'm on, I'm on TikTok, but not really. But yeah, just, you'll, you'll find me if you go to my page.

• 1:06:00Speaker 05

  Yes, and my IG is Reezy, R triple E Z Y. Um, and you know, you'll be able to watch my, my dating game show, Why Are You Single, very soon. Um, you know, we out here.

• 1:06:11Speaker 06

  We outside.

• 1:06:12Speaker 05

  Trying to help the single people figure out what's wrong with them.

• 1:06:14Speaker 06

  Help me.

• 1:06:16Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, we'll talk.

• 1:06:20Speaker 06

  Lacey, you know why.

• 1:06:21Speaker 05

  Lacey, do you have an American flag bikini? Cause you could start there.

• 1:06:26Speaker 06

  That is why she's saying.

• 1:06:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh no, as always, you can find me at D I B A L A C I, Diva Lacey on all platforms. You can see all the wonderful photos of very, very real uh, MAGA women at Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram. And you can get my book anywhere your books are sold, Scam Goddess. And you can watch Scam Goddess, the first season on Hulu. I might have some news for y'all soon. And you can watch the first two seasons of Going Dutch on Hulu as well. Congregation, I really want y'all to get out there and stay fan booing.

• 1:07:00Speaker 05

  Fan boo?

• 1:07:01Laci Mosley?

  Fan boo? Y'all are my fan boos.

• 1:07:06Laci Mosley?

  Follow me on Fan Boo.

• 1:07:10Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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