The Resurrecting Romance Novelist w/ Paula Poundstone (Fraud Friday)

In this week’s Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by the legendary Paula Poundstone (Science Court, Inside Out) to discuss Susan Meachen, an independent romance novelist who faked her death in 2020 and miraculously resurrected in 2022. Plus, a Florida woman has been arrested after a 4-year-long romance scam that resulted in the defrauding of an 87-year-old Holocaust survivor. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 02/13/2023) Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Paula Poundstone: @paulapoundstone Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/16/health/fake-death-romance-novelist-meachen.html https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/book-author-exposed-fake-suicide-facebook-group-1234655830/?fbclid=IwAR0T1Z8YBSGjkOmKkE2bqww-XVhj2142WqdD97YlxSd0QWLr_eCm8LSaJKc https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/susan-meachen-author-fake-death-b2265223.html?r=21062 https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kelseyweekman/susan-meachen-author-alleged-death-hoax Twitter user @Draggerofliars thread: https://twitter.com/Draggerofliars/status/1610491152091717632 https://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-allegedly-steals-28-million-holocaust-survivor-romance/story?id=96673243 https://www.news4jax.com/consumer/2019/04/30/how-to-avoid-falling-for-fake-online-product-reviews/

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• 1:30Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:12Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast Scam Goddess, all about robbers, con, artistes, people who practice scams. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them, and parasocial girlies out there. One of my blues clues, girlies. Yes, I'm very, yes, I'm very excited. I love you guys and welcome new people. All right, no, I'm extremely excited. Y'all don't even understand. We have a legend, okay? I don't even know how we scammed her and got her time like this, but shout out, shout out to the team, okay? Today, we have an amazing stand-up comedian and authoress on the show. She is a regular panelist on NPR's news comedy quiz show, Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me, which I've done quite a few times.

• 2:57Laci Mosley?

  This is the queen, Victoria of stand-up. You can listen to her podcast. Nobody listens to Paula Poundstone. And you can check out her stand-up comedy tour in a city near you, honey, because she be out here in these streets, honey. Back in the day, she would get on the ground and do all the mics everywhere. And that's just my own personal, I be stalking Paula.

• 3:18Laci Mosley?

  But you can check out her stand-up comedy tour. Go to paulapoundstone.com for more information. Congregation, please welcome Paula Poundstone to the show.

• 3:26Speaker 04

  Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.

• 3:28Laci Mosley?

  Thank you for being here, queen. I'm so, I'm really, truly elated to have you on the show. This is really dope.

• 3:35Speaker 04

  You know, I realize, as I'm watching you talking to the microphone, like, she doesn't need me. I can see that you sort of imagine the audience that you're talking to. There's a very close feeling, I feel, between you and the audience who is not in the room. So I feel like I'm interrupting a little bit.

• 3:53Laci Mosley?

  No, interrupt all you want. It's not interrupting. It's, you're gonna make me cry. Oh, my God. I put in just a teens bit of like the stalking that I've done about you over the years.

• 4:04Speaker 04

  I did use to ride the Greyhound all around the country.

• 4:06Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 4:07Speaker 04

  You could buy a thing called Nemara Pass. For 30 days, you'd go anywhere you wanted. You know, it was like a blank ticket book, so you could ride anywhere you wanted for 30 days. And I used to live on the Greyhound bus. Back in the day.

• 4:20Laci Mosley?

  You was really touring and I mean, your SNL stand up episode with Robin Williams. Like I just, you're, you're the goat. So I'm just, I'm so excited to have you here. Uh, we always ask our guests on this show, like, what is your relationship with scams? Like, do you love them? Do you hate them? Have anyone ever tried? I mean, I can't imagine being on a Greyhound bus. You know, that was back when the Greyhound wasn't at Sketch.

• 4:41Speaker 04

  Oh, it was somewhat. I mean, I haven't, I don't know that I've ridden a Greyhound in a while. Okay, I'm gonna tell you a gross, I'm gonna tell you a really gross Greyhound bus story.

• 4:51Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 4:52Speaker 04

  It was not a scam so much, it was harassment. So I was, I think, 19 years old. I was very shy.

• 5:00Laci Mosley?

  Oh, young.

• 5:00Speaker 04

  I still am, but I was really shy then. So, you know, when you're on a Greyhound bus, you don't own both the seats, right? You have the seat that you paid for. Somebody wants to come sit down beside you, you move your junk and they sit down beside you. So this guy sits down beside me and I'm the kind of person, I can talk to the other passengers a little bit.

• 5:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you're better than me. Small talk, like, I'll literally die. I hate talking about the weather. Like, it kills me.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  I can say, you know, hello, where you going, right? Some people you engage with more than others. I forget what it was about this guy that kind of suggested to me, maybe I don't really want to chat. You know, and I was reading and writing and looking out the window and sleeping. So anyways, he sits down beside me and he's wearing overalls. Now, at that time, that was like a fashion, um, but.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  That was a statement piece?

• 5:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:50Laci Mosley?

  It was giving?

• 5:51Speaker 04

  Yeah. So at some point, I think he recognizes like how sort of, I don't know, whatever. He slips his hands inside.

• 6:01Laci Mosley?

  Hands, multiple hands?

• 6:02Speaker 04

  Both hands inside his overalls.

• 6:06Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 6:07Speaker 04

  Right?

• 6:07Laci Mosley?

  And that's a deep dive because overalls means you got pants up to your neck. So you gotta go in from the neck.

• 6:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, but the, the top part is just a bib, so you can go in the sides, right? Okay, I don't think I need to describe to you what he was doing at that point. And I'm so like shocked and embarrassed and I'm like, I.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  And there is no way in hell I'm gonna tell somebody that he's doing this because I'll feel too embarrassed to say the words. I'm 19, I was a baby. So I do at some point say like that I needed to get out and I walk up to the driver because I know he'd like he would, he'd freak out if he knew that, right? So I walk up to the driver and I lean my head down to the driver and I say, "Where's our next stop?"

• 6:58Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 6:59Speaker 04

  And the driver, because I whispered my question, he whispers his answer.

• 7:04Laci Mosley?

  Okay, he caught the vibe.

• 7:06Speaker 04

  So the man has no idea what exchange we just had and he assumes...

• 7:11Laci Mosley?

  That it's about him diddling his man scandal.

• 7:12Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 7:13Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 7:14Speaker 04

  So when I go back, he's moved.

• 7:15Laci Mosley?

  I love that.

• 7:16Speaker 04

  It was pretty, you know, thinking back on it, I'm like, alright, that was, I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but that was pretty damn clever.

• 7:23Laci Mosley?

  And he didn't have the awareness not to realize that he shouldn't be, you know...

• 7:27Speaker 04

  Oh, he did.

• 7:28Laci Mosley?

  Flapping the wax.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  He was trying to get under my skin, you know? He was just doing something to get attention and to get, you know, and to him, it was gonna be more glorious if, you know, I was forced to, so I just, whatever. And that was, he was still on the bus and I still saw him every time there was a stop where people, you know...

• 7:47Laci Mosley?

  Where were you going with? How long was the trip?

• 7:49Speaker 04

  I can't remember anymore. It was a, it was a forever trip.

• 7:51Laci Mosley?

  It must have been a long trip if there were all these stops.

• 7:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was, anyways, that was my, uh, so what, but my relationship with scam, that was just my relationship with gross. My relationship, and my relationship with grim bus.

• 8:05Laci Mosley?

  And now I'm wondering about the overalls, like he was like, "I'm gonna wear these, this neck pants so people can't really tell."

• 8:10Speaker 04

  I don't know if it was like, yeah, part of his, uh, uniform.

• 8:14Laci Mosley?

  It had to have been, because if somebody walks over and they're like, "Sir, what are you doing with your genitalia?", he could like slide his hand up the neck pants and be like, "I was scratching my chest." You know, he's like, he can move around more than if you were in pants that hit at the waist and then everyone could really tell.

• 8:28Speaker 04

  Right, there was a practical use, uh, in the old days.

• 8:31Laci Mosley?

  You heard it here first. Neck pants, overalls are for public masturbators.

• 8:35Speaker 04

  Like on a, people still do on a farm sometimes, don't they? Every now and then you'll see a farmer.

• 8:41Laci Mosley?

  I wonder if Old MacDonald really fucked it up for farmers? Like, what if farmers dressed like hipsters in Brooklyn and they're like, "We actually give fashion and, and all the girls think we wear straw hats and wear overalls because of one bad marketing campaign."

• 8:53Speaker 04

  Well, you know, they haven't really been able to force a gingham on the rest of the world. You know, gingham, the little, the white and red. Yeah, that really slowed down.

• 9:03Laci Mosley?

  The picnic table fits?

• 9:04Speaker 04

  Right, exactly, except for smaller, usually.

• 9:06Laci Mosley?

  I mean, we bring it back out for my birthday, 4th of Julacy. That's the 4th of July. We don't need to celebrate America. We celebrate me.

• 9:13Speaker 04

  Is your birthday really the 4th of July?

• 9:15Laci Mosley?

  I'm 4th of Julacy.

• 9:16Speaker 04

  That's all I'm gonna celebrate from now on in. Because I don't care that much about the 4th of July.

• 9:21Laci Mosley?

  No, I mean, what is it even, really? But wait, so you were saying your relationship was scams?

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Okay, so, I have been scammed before.

• 9:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, tell me, because I've been scammed a lot, even recently. So, we, there's no shame.

• 9:33Speaker 04

  I was, and you do feel ashamed, by the way, when it happens. Isn't that weird?

• 9:38Laci Mosley?

  And that's what we're trying to get rid of, because we want people to share the ways that they've been scammed, so that other people can...

• 9:42Speaker 04

  And there's so many ways now, that, you know...

• 9:44Laci Mosley?

  Woo, they get new every day.

• 9:45Speaker 04

  It's a thing, yeah. Might have been 18 years old. I was working a restaurant in Boston, and this woman comes in with a kid. And she does this con thing where, and the kid's like 2 years old and very distracting. Kid's banging on, I wasn't a part of this. I just saw it happen. She takes out a 20, she tells the cashier she needs 2 10s. When the cashier gives her the 2 10s, she now takes out a dime and says, "Now I need 2 nickels for this dime." The cashier goes to do that, she takes the 2 20s, she hides them away, I mean, the 2 10s, excuse me, hides them away and lays out 2 1s. And when the cashier looks up again after doing the 2 nickels, she says, "What did you give me these 2 1s for?"

• 10:31Speaker 04

  Now, you know, in restaurants, the girl, the woman on the cash register gets stuck for that, you know?

• 10:38Laci Mosley?

  Exactly, yeah.

• 10:40Speaker 04

  You know, it's bad thing, bada bada...

• 10:41Laci Mosley?

  I worked in restaurants, I know, yes. If your drawer's short, then like, you gotta just fill it out. And you normally will even fill out your drawer if it's short without telling management, because you don't want to lose your job, so, you're like, "I gotta..."

• 10:54Speaker 04

  And, you know, we're making, you know, something slightly over nothing per hour. And so, now, all right, so I saw this happen. So now, I'm on my way to work one morning, and I stop off at the Dunkin' Donuts on Boylston. As I'm waiting in line, the same woman is in front of me. And I didn't recognize it right away, but then I see her do this same thing. So, you know, she goes, there was two ones, two, whatever. You know, what'd you give me these two ones for? And I stood right there and watched her. And I had this idea in my head. I'm from a small suburban town in Massachusetts. I had this idea in my head that the minute she was foiled, she would somehow run away.

• 11:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, sometimes it happens.

• 11:37Speaker 04

  Well, didn't happen this time. She, I said, she didn't give you two ones. She gave you two tens. And the woman turned and went off on me. And she said she was gonna drag me outside and beat the crap out of me. And what's funny is it's not like I can't run or, or, you know, all of a sudden I was just frozen because I just thought that's exactly what's gonna happen now. And so the, the.

• 12:05Laci Mosley?

  So you thought when you told that, oh, this is a scam, she was gonna just run out the door. But she was like, I'm a bitch always.

• 12:11Speaker 04

  Right, suddenly I was.

• 12:13Laci Mosley?

  Paula, she was about to catch the hands.

• 12:14Speaker 04

  The woman from Dunkin' Donuts grabs me over the counter. Because she thought I was gonna be dragged outside too. So she grabs my arm and she says, no, you're, you're not gonna do that. Now I only have one arm to defend myself.

• 12:28Laci Mosley?

  Listen, America runs on Dunkin'. They like, they're like the Waffle House of coffee. Everybody at Dunkin' knows how to fight, just like how everybody at Spirit Airlines knows how to fight. They teach that in the training.

• 12:42Laci Mosley?

  They actually do, but for all flight attendants teach you how to do a basic self-defense. And like you have to restrain people sometimes in the air, but it's funny to me.

• 12:50Speaker 04

  With office supplies, you have to do it with duct tape. I can't even, I can't even duct tape a package.

• 12:55Laci Mosley?

  To help you, but then she's leaving you defenseless a little bit.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  Instead, it left me with just one arm. It's not like I would have hit anybody anyways, but I was deflecting her blows with one arm. And she finally.

• 13:04Laci Mosley?

  So she did hit you? She, she came, she was squabbling?

• 13:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then she, and then she went to the door. She kept saying, we're gonna call the police. And I'm thinking to myself, go ahead, go ahead, call the police now. She made it to the door and I'm like, huh. I think I started to cry then, which just is not humiliating enough.

• 13:21Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God.

• 13:22Speaker 04

  And then she ran back and kicked me.

• 13:25Laci Mosley?

  Oh, damn.

• 13:26Speaker 04

  And then she ran out again.

• 13:27Laci Mosley?

  And now one more for the road.

• 13:29Speaker 04

  And you know what I said afterwards? I said, could I get a jelly doughnut?

• 13:36Speaker 04

  And a chocolate honey glazed, please. And then I sat down at a counter.

• 13:40Laci Mosley?

  Did they make you pay for it?

• 13:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, they did.

• 13:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that's fucked up. That should have been for free now, damn. You'd have helped them with a scam. They gonna charge you?

• 13:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:48Laci Mosley?

  That's when you gotta start fighting the Dunkin' lady.

• 13:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was, I should have come back with.

• 13:51Laci Mosley?

  You gotta dunk the Dunkin'.

• 13:52Speaker 04

  So there, I was not personally scammed. I was abused, but I did recognize the scam and stop it. There.

• 14:01Laci Mosley?

  Now, Paula, I hate to do this. I hate to do this, Paula. But I'm low-key a little bit on that lady's side.

• 14:09Speaker 04

  Are you? Right.

• 14:10Laci Mosley?

  Just because Dunkin' is a big company and she scamming them. Like, she not hurting nobody with a scam.

• 14:17Speaker 04

  Oh, no. But it was this, it was this.

• 14:19Laci Mosley?

  Like, you were nicer to the bus pedal.

• 14:22Speaker 04

  This is in the old days when they made them wear these kind of pink sack dresses with aprons. Okay, that lady, that cashier was gonna get stuck from that.

• 14:34Laci Mosley?

  You're thinking from a service perspective, which I do too, which is why I overtip for everything. Because I've worked in service for so many years. Is that like, that woman's drawer was gonna be short and she might have been out of a job. So I understand where you're coming from. I take it back. You was like, homegirl's drawer is gonna be short.

• 14:49Speaker 04

  I was fighting for justice.

• 14:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you were trying to help homegirl who worked there, okay? For her little bit of money an hour and not to lose her job. So I absolutely understand. Damn, though, she messed you up, holding you. Now, how you gonna hold me, though? And then I'm getting squabbled on and then you gonna charge me for the jelly doughnut? Now, she messed up there. She messed up there.

• 15:09Speaker 04

  She didn't return the favor, that's for sure.

• 15:11Laci Mosley?

  She did. See, and that's why I don't help corporations. Because she still stood in the gap for the corporation. Because, sis, I helped you not have a short drawer and you over here holding me back while somebody is pummeling me. And so you were doing it for the community and that, mm-mm, no, no. She messed up. Because she should have gave you a free jelly doughnut. It should have been free and your coffee.

• 15:30Speaker 04

  I'll tell you something, I'm going back.

• 15:31Laci Mosley?

  Dunkin' Donuts, if you hear us right now, one, sponsor the show. Two, y'all owe Paula Pound, y'all owe Paula Poundstone a jelly doughnut and a coffee at the very least, okay? Because y'all played.

• 15:42Speaker 04

  By the way, it was a jelly doughnut and chocolate honey glazed.

• 15:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, chocolate honey glazed. Get it right.

• 15:45Speaker 04

  I can make that.

• 15:46Laci Mosley?

  And even if it's discontinued, you better continue it, okay? Get it right.

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• 17:26Laci Mosley?

  And we are back, and it's time for...

• 17:28Speaker 04

  Whoa, that was fast! Whoa! Whew! Almost... I hear, I'm thinking I'm gonna kick back, relax, breathe for a sec. I got whiplash from that break.

• 17:38Laci Mosley?

  You don't get to breathe, Paula, you don't get to breathe. It's time for What's Hot and Fraud.

• 17:43Speaker 04

  Let's do it.

• 17:43Laci Mosley?

  Yes, so this is what we warn our listeners about scams popping on the streets, but more often than not, we get a letter from you all out there. As always, search on your friends, family, and enemies at [email protected]. Just make sure scams retire, because we don't want a what, yes, fuck up your bag. And somebody really understood that today. I just need a fake name from you, Paula. Like, it could be, we don't care about gender here, so, any name.

• 18:08Speaker 04

  Uh, Angelina.

• 18:09Laci Mosley?

  Angelina, ooh, yes.

• 18:12Laci Mosley?

  I like Angelina. So Angelina says, skip to the bottom for your flowers. This is a long one, so we're just diving right on it. Angelina, you've been listening to the podcast because you know how it go. All right, so I picked this. It's a little complicated, but there's still like a little bit of a scam that can still be run. So I just wanted to let y'all know about it, right? So it says, Angelina says, you might have actually come across this scam before, but there used to be a widely utilized review buying system that anyone selling something on Amazon could use to artificially boost reviews on their products. It wouldn't be advertised directly on Amazon, but rather through a variety of 1,000% shady websites across webs like Amz Review Trader.

• 18:54Laci Mosley?

  And it's like AMZ Review Trader, if y'all want to know. Elite Deal Club, I love to review. Snag Shout, and many of these names. Snag Shout feels pornographic for me, for some reason. It's Snag Shout, and many other mostly defunct sites now. Essentially, all that you had to do was find an item on one of these websites that you wanted and then request a discount code, as well as give them a link to your public Amazon profile so that they could see your review history. So if you leave a lot of reviews, which I will say, I appreciate reviews. I don't do reviews often, but when I go on Amazon or any other popular website and give, you know, cue ball, head, Jeff Bezos my money, which I shouldn't be doing. I try not to.

• 19:39Speaker 04

  I can understand him.

• 19:40Laci Mosley?

  I try not to. I try not to order from Amazon. Because a lot of times, if you go on Amazon, the price is higher than if you actually click on who's selling it and then go to the real website where they sell it from. So you can find something on Amazon because it's quick and then go to the real website and get it cheaper. But, um...

• 19:55Speaker 04

  My neighbors and I, because he owns Whole Foods, my neighbors and I went in on a strawberry last summer. That's how expensive.

• 20:02Laci Mosley?

  One strawberry?

• 20:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:04Laci Mosley?

  And how did y'all eat that? Y'all cut it up? What's the situation?

• 20:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's strawberry ceremony. Strawberry, we call it the strawberry festival. Yeah, it's very expensive.

• 20:14Laci Mosley?

  It's very expensive.

• 20:16Speaker 04

  And what more does he need, honestly, right?

• 20:18Laci Mosley?

  Also, like, the workers, like, if I know people are peeing in Powerade bottles, I'm like, I don't want to do two-day shipping so that y'all can be stressed out.

• 20:26Speaker 04

  I feel like that too, yeah, absolutely.

• 20:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but Amazon does have all the things, all the things. So if you're a reviewer on Amazon, I do appreciate you because sometimes they be posting pictures. They'll post a picture in the outfit, they'll post a picture of the table once they built it. And it gives you like a little bit of scale to how big it is in their apartment.

• 20:45Speaker 04

  Well, that's helpful. I worry about the review things because I feel like people can just, wouldn't you just get your friends to say good things about something?

• 20:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, or they trick people by sending the product to people's houses who didn't order it and then making reviews for them. They do that too. So there's a lot of different little scams that people on Amazon do to get their rating up. Because if your Amazon review rating is higher, you pop up in the feed higher, which means you get more legitimate orders than other companies for the same product. So there's reasons why they're doing this and giving these discounts. So Angelina says, "The discounts were anywhere between 10% and 100% off, free." Okay, yes, I said free, Angelina.

• 21:25Speaker 04

  Wait a minute, you can't, what company is giving 100% off discounts?

• 21:31Laci Mosley?

  But think about it, you give 100% off and then people give reviews. You get 10 reviews, right? You sacrifice the profit for 10 products. That boosts your algorithm. And then you get probably way more people buying it legitimately because they saw it from the reviews.

• 21:49Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 21:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and like, Amazon makes it to where the company can't really falsify reviews that much. So they need people to do like, quote-unquote, legitimate reviews. So they said, Angelina says, "And they had everything you could want if you got to that request button before someone else did. The deal was that they would give you this discount and then you would leave your 'honest' in quotes review for the product you received, hence why they wanted to see your public profile." So that they knew they would at least get something in return for giving you the discount. This, of course, was the corporate scam being run to artificially initiate, or excuse me, inflate product ratings on Amazon so that they had a higher chance to get people outside of the scam country, yeah, to spend real money. They even tried to make it look legitimate by requiring you to put a disclaimer in your

• 22:33Laci Mosley?

  review that you received it at a discount, but it was still an honest review. So they were like, and tell the girls a little bit that we lying, like, just a, a scoach. So here's where my own semi-scam comes in.

• 22:45Speaker 04

  This is so over my head, I can't even tell you.

• 22:47Laci Mosley?

  Really?

• 22:47Speaker 04

  I'm hanging on your every word because I'm like, I, you know, I, I do this thing where I go into stores and I'll pick up a product that I would like to have and I have enough money in my pocket to purchase it and I bring it to the cash register, I don't do self-checkout, and, and I say, hi, how are you? And then the person chats with me, I purchased my thing, I leave. I don't, for the most part, shop online and, and do all this stuff.

• 23:15Laci Mosley?

  Paula, you're not doing online robbery? You gotta get into online robbery.

• 23:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, I haven't.

• 23:20Laci Mosley?

  Big market.

• 23:20Speaker 04

  What is, I, I know in Florida, they've had some bank robberies where, at the drive-up window, where they use the tube.

• 23:30Laci Mosley?

  Drive-through bank robberies?

• 23:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, they put the gun.

• 23:33Laci Mosley?

  I have not heard about drive-through bank robberies.

• 23:35Speaker 04

  They put the gun in the tube.

• 23:36Laci Mosley?

  No!

• 23:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then.

• 23:38Laci Mosley?

  How does that work?

• 23:39Speaker 04

  And there's actually been some shootings as well where the cashier, the banker, you know.

• 23:44Laci Mosley?

  Use the gun?

• 23:45Speaker 04

  Shot themselves.

• 23:46Laci Mosley?

  No!

• 23:46Speaker 04

  Well, because they followed instructions on the note.

• 23:50Laci Mosley?

  I'm not gonna listen to that kind of note. You send me a note talking about shoot me, I'm not, and then you send a gun, I'm not gonna, you send me the gun, I'm shooting out the window, what you talking about?

• 23:59Speaker 04

  They're instruction followers in those banks, yeah. It's a Florida crime, that's all.

• 24:04Laci Mosley?

  That's Florida.

• 24:05Speaker 04

  It's a Florida crime.

• 24:05Laci Mosley?

  That, that gives me very Florida. So Angelina says, here's where my own semi-scam comes in. When I started doing these kinds of reviews on Amazon, I had already been using an app that lets you scan your receipts to accrue points that can be redeemed as gift cards to actual stores like Target, Walmart, iTunes, et cetera. Not too long after, I started to notice that because. I was, it was processed like any other regular order. Amazon would still include a paper receipt for these products I was getting, even though no charge had actually been made to my card. So he's uploading, Angelina's uploading receipts that are no charge, but it's still a receipt. And obviously, they're using algorithms and machines, so they can't tell that it's no charge. So Angelina's still getting points.

• 24:45Speaker 04

  Oh, because you have to have a receipt for it?

• 24:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, to get the points. I love this. So since the receipt scanning apps are just aggregating my data and selling it for massive profit, I decided to start scamming them right back and upload these $0 receipts from Amazon. Got it. "I was making out like a damn bandit, Lacey," Angelina says. "I was getting things like French presses, memory foam pillows, Bluetooth speakers, phone screen protectors, ceramic kitchen knives, foam rollers, and much more on a regular basis, and flipping those receipts into gift cards and stacking the profit." Okay.

• 25:17Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 25:18Laci Mosley?

  You realize the hole in the system. That's what scammers do.

• 25:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:21Laci Mosley?

  And you were saying that earlier, like how scams have evolved. They have. Like, scammers are always like, oh, okay, we got computers now? Okay, let's scam on the computer. Okay, y'all got Wi-Fi? We scamming on the Wi-Fi. You know, like, anything, they're gonna figure out a way.

• 25:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. It used to just be door-to-door scammers.

• 25:37Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:37Speaker 04

  You just, you know.

• 25:38Laci Mosley?

  You just have to walk in the heat.

• 25:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, a little Fuller Brushman kind of stuff, where, you know, you thought it was boar hair, but it turned out it was made with another kind of hair, and that was the big scam.

• 25:49Laci Mosley?

  That was honest living. We had to scam door-to-door.

• 25:51Speaker 04

  You're too young to have ever seen a Fuller Brushman.

• 25:54Laci Mosley?

  Hello, I'm here to rob you. Hello? Is your mama home?

• 25:58Speaker 04

  Those were the days.

• 25:58Laci Mosley?

  I'm trying to rob her.

• 25:59Speaker 04

  It was so much easier.

• 26:01Laci Mosley?

  Truly. I remember the Avon lady used to come to my grandmama's house all the time. When we bought products, we, she, I didn't have no money.

• 26:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, Avon, yeah, yeah, Avon calling.

• 26:11Laci Mosley?

  So it got to the point where I would start giving things to friends and family, or even as raffle prizes to the staff that I supervised as morale boosters. However, this all came crashing down in 2016 when a guy named Tommy Noonan, damn, Angela, you gonna name Tommy like that?

• 26:25Speaker 04

  Who's Tommy Noonan?

• 26:27Laci Mosley?

  He created Review Meta. And... To the great shock and surprise of nobody, found that those reviews were almost always biased. For a while, nothing really changed, but eventually this whole review meta thing picked up enough steam across Reddit, Twitter, and other social media, and we're gonna get into social media later, because social media is out in the scammers, heavy these days. So, Amazon had to essentially ban the "product discount review" in quotes, from their platform. So around that same time, the receipt ads also stopped accepting receipts that had a total of $0, so my bag was all the way fucked up. I'm so sorry, Angelina, because you were really scamming good. This is a good scam.

• 27:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:05Laci Mosley?

  Ethical, fair, technically legal. I'm into it.

• 27:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, what does Barb McQuaid say? Lawful but awful.

• 27:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 27:13Speaker 04

  She sometimes says that something that's not...

• 27:15Laci Mosley?

  But I'm not even gonna say awful, but I like the rhyme. Lawful but awful. I'm gonna steal that.

• 27:19Speaker 04

  You can do, but you're probably...

• 27:20Laci Mosley?

  That's mine. Y'all remember that different. I said it.

• 27:25Laci Mosley?

  Remember that different. Remember how I said that? See, I'm gaslighting y'all. Y'all remember how I said that?

• 27:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was yours. Absolutely, that was yours.

• 27:32Laci Mosley?

  So, yes, Paula, I'll say I love you. I love you. So, Angelina says, "I'm out of the game now, but the last I heard is that you have to fully buy the product on your own, give a favorable review, and then the company will send you a full or partial reimbursement. Take a look at the reviews on Amazon for any item you're interested in that isn't from a major or well-known brand, and it won't take you long to see that the reviews are clearly fake and/or paid for."

• 27:57Speaker 04

  If they sell you... Okay, if I buy something and I don't like it, and I write, like, "Boy, this, you know, this water bottle, you know, it smells, it's not good," right? Then they're not gonna send me the...

• 28:11Laci Mosley?

  Exactly.

• 28:13Speaker 04

  Therefore, it's still not an honest review. I knew the review thing wasn't right.

• 28:18Laci Mosley?

  But that's why it's biased, because if you get something for free, everything, I always say, if it's free, it's for me. So, if it's free, I'm looking at it more favorably automatically, because I didn't expend any resources to get it. So, I'm like, "Oh, yeah, this water bottle smells like, uh, pink chips, but the water cold."

• 28:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, so you would still...

• 28:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 28:39Speaker 04

  You would still do the...

• 28:39Laci Mosley?

  It made Dasani taste like, uh, Smart Water.

• 28:42Speaker 04

  But who would want an additional product that you didn't like anyways? I guess that's part of that.

• 28:48Laci Mosley?

  Some people like stuff and free stuff. A lot of people like free stuff.

• 28:53Speaker 04

  That's a big problem.

• 28:54Laci Mosley?

  Because that's why companies get away with like, they'll give you gifts at the holidays and it'll be like a branded lunchbox or something. I'm like, I don't want no branded lunchbox. Just give me the money you paid for this damn lunchbox. Give me a bonus. I don't want this.

• 29:05Speaker 04

  Oh, man, I feel awful because a minute ago, I don't know if you saw me on my phone, but I was ordering you a Paula Poundstone. Nobody listens to Paula Poundstone lunchbox.

• 29:16Laci Mosley?

  Wait, but I want that, though. But I want that.

• 29:18Speaker 04

  I feel terrible.

• 29:18Laci Mosley?

  That's a flex. So they'll be like, you know Paula Poundstone? I'll be like, yes, honey. Yes, I do. That's a flex.

• 29:24Speaker 04

  That and a dime.

• 29:26Laci Mosley?

  And one dime and then you'd be like, I actually sent you $25. So I'm gonna need you to send that back. Yes. So.

• 29:33Speaker 04

  They used to say that and a dime will get you a cup of coffee. But nowadays, it's that and $10.

• 29:39Laci Mosley?

  Will get you a cup of coffee. So P.S. Angelina says this allegedly, allegedly. I also heard whispers that review meta itself is a scam, but you didn't hear that from me. We didn't hear that from you, Angelina. We didn't hear that from you.

• 29:51Speaker 04

  No. She's the one who originally said lawful, but awful. But she certainly did not say that, what was it, meta, meta, review.

• 29:59Laci Mosley?

  Review meta.

• 30:00Speaker 04

  Review meta. Yeah.

• 30:02Laci Mosley?

  So I will say, the reason I wanted to read this one, I know it's a little complicated, is that it sounds like if you go on.

• 30:09Speaker 04

  This is like Monopoly rules. Like, because I don't think I've ever played Monopoly.

• 30:15Laci Mosley?

  I'm black. We don't read the rules and we make our own rules.

• 30:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:19Laci Mosley?

  We make our own rules for Uno. We make our own rules for Monopoly. And our rules are the right ones.

• 30:23Speaker 04

  The rule to Uno is if you have a kid, you can never stop playing it. That's the rule to Uno. It's a game that goes on forever.

• 30:30Laci Mosley?

  But Monopoly goes on forever, too. And Monopoly was created by women, stolen by men, was about the awfulness of capitalism. And that's why nobody ever gets through a game of Monopoly without fighting each other. I have a scar from my cousin Germanica stabbing me during Monopoly.

• 30:45Speaker 04

  Who did?

• 30:46Laci Mosley?

  My cousin Germanica.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  Germanica?

• 30:48Laci Mosley?

  I love you, Germanica.

• 30:49Speaker 04

  Yeah. I'm sure it was an accident, Germanica.

• 30:52Laci Mosley?

  Listen, Monopoly is treacherous because it's capitalism.

• 30:55Speaker 04

  Which playing piece did she stab you with? Was it the dog? The thimble? Was it in the old days?

• 31:00Laci Mosley?

  Which one's sharpest? I feel like you could probably get something off with the car.

• 31:04Speaker 04

  There used to be a cannon. Could have been the cannon.

• 31:07Laci Mosley?

  I never had the cannon. I was always the car. I wanted to be the car.

• 31:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, but that's not, there's no sharp edges there. So it had to, Germanica, what a great name.

• 31:16Laci Mosley?

  Yes, truly, and she's a great person. You can still be a cool person and do like one little stabbing.

• 31:22Speaker 04

  Well, you know what? It was right when she landed on the boardwalk. She just went off. I've never seen her like that before. Never seen Germanica like that before.

• 31:32Laci Mosley?

  Because when you buy up all the properties, honey, the girls will be mad at you. And that's just the rules of the game. I'm not mad at it.

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• 33:10Laci Mosley?

  Whoa, that was a great break. Okay, we're back.

• 33:14Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna let that be the intro, Paula, because that was amazing. And now we're back and it's time for Historic Hoodwings. This is where we talk about a crime caper, a group of criminals, maybe a lone wolf. And maybe we like him, maybe we hate him. I do want to do a content warning at the top of this. There are mentions of suicide and self-harm. So just so you know, if, you know, that might be a problem, which we understand. So today we're talking about Susan Mision, an independent romance novelist who was thought to have died in 2020 to the grief of her large fan community. But in 2022, the romance novel world was once again shocked when she miraculously came back from the dead.

• 33:58Speaker 04

  Oh, man. Now, you're probably too young to have ever seen Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte.

• 34:04Laci Mosley?

  What was that?

• 34:05Speaker 04

  It was a scary movie back then with Betty Davis, Joseph Cotton, and I'll think of the other actors later. But, okay, so Betty Davis thinks that she's killed someone, but she didn't, as it turns out, she didn't really, but she thought she did. And the guy is part of a, torments her. And she had like rolled him off into a lake or something. And he comes back and he walks up the stairs and he's got like muddy shoes and leaves stuck to him and stuff. That's, that, this, she miraculously, she dug herself out of the grave and miraculously reappeared.

• 34:42Laci Mosley?

  Yes, to life.

• 34:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:45Laci Mosley?

  I'm on her side right now because I know when you fake die, it probably sells more books. They're like, this is the last book we're gonna get, so.

• 34:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't think that.

• 34:56Speaker 04

  I mean, clearly, there's like a mental health problem there somewhere.

• 34:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, fake dying is really a sign. It's a red flag that something's wrong. When you're like, I'm gonna fake my death, you should probably look into your life and see why you want to do that. So Susan, 47, is an author of 14 romance novels and the head of a large online fan community on Facebook called The Ward, in reference to a psychiatric ward.

• 35:20Speaker 04

  Well, there.

• 35:21Laci Mosley?

  Whoa, all right, she told us up top.

• 35:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:23Laci Mosley?

  Okay, and then we're looking at her picture and it's giving. It's giving mental illness. And listen, I have mental illness, okay? So that's no shade. I have my own mental illnesses, okay? I have anxiety, depression. So I understand mental illness. And she's giving that photo, it's giving mental. And that's okay.

• 35:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, is it now?

• 35:43Laci Mosley?

  That's her brand.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Does she let that photo circulate? Is that the one?

• 35:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it looks like a photo she meant to share with people.

• 35:49Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 35:49Laci Mosley?

  Because look, it's got, even got the portrait mode, kind of fuzzy background.

• 35:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think it.

• 35:54Laci Mosley?

  Her in the forefront and her face is kind of like giving like, hmm.

• 35:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's not a happy face.

• 35:59Laci Mosley?

  No, it's not a happy face.

• 36:00Speaker 04

  Although if she were smiling, it would be. I mean, it's just, it could be, you know, you can't draw too many conclusions.

• 36:07Laci Mosley?

  I mean, her haircut is giving great clips.

• 36:10Speaker 04

  It's not the Mona Lisa.

• 36:11Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 36:12Speaker 04

  But, um, yeah.

• 36:13Laci Mosley?

  But honestly, is it the Mona Lisa? Maybe the opposite?

• 36:16Speaker 04

  You think like there's like a little, no, no.

• 36:18Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, she looking at me. She looking at me anyway I move. Y'all hear that on mic? I'm moving around.

• 36:23Speaker 04

  That's not the Mona Lisa. That's, um, oh, American Heritage, the one by Grant Wood with the, with the farmer, with the overalls, by the way.

• 36:33Laci Mosley?

  With the overalls.

• 36:34Speaker 04

  With the neck pants. Yeah, that's the one where, no matter where you stand, he's looking at you. All right, okay. So, all right, so she was a romance novelist, which by the way, I take issue with right off the bat. But she was a romance novelist.

• 36:46Laci Mosley?

  Wait, why do you take issue?

• 36:47Speaker 04

  I just, I, it's a, I used to work in a bookstore when I was young and it's just a genre.

• 36:53Laci Mosley?

  It's a very horned up genre.

• 36:55Speaker 04

  It's, there's just something about it that's just stupid.

• 37:00Speaker 04

  The covers are all the same. It's all, you know, it's all.

• 37:03Laci Mosley?

  Like an overly buffed man with super long hair that's blowing in the wind?

• 37:07Speaker 04

  Well, actually, that's relatively new in my life. It was, in the old days, it wasn't so much the, it was, you know, always like a buxom woman. Although I don't, you know, given that it's largely women that were purchasing those books, I don't know why they wanted to read this story of a large breasted woman. But, um, but they did.

• 37:26Laci Mosley?

  Because, listen, a large breasted woman be having adventures. And I want to know where them titties are going. And I want, I want to go with them, okay? I want to be their bra, their brassiere and go on the adventures as well.

• 37:38Speaker 04

  I just, you know, there's so much. Like, I'm the slowest reader in the world. I'm a very slow, like, sometimes I fantasize about going to college. I'm like, it wouldn't work. I wouldn't be able to get through one book. Like, I've always been-

• 37:51Laci Mosley?

  I'm a slow reader and I went to college. I did run a lot of scams in college where I pretended to be a poor, at-risk youth on scholarship. I was on scholarship, but it was academic. But I would come in in sweatpants and I'd be like, "Please, can y'all give me the answers to this exam? Because I got the whole family on my back and we trying to save the community center." And that was not my life at all. I grew up in the suburbs and my family is affluent. But I was like, I knew that everyone just assumed because I'm dark-skinned and black that I was running track and needed to get the community center.

• 38:22Speaker 04

  What was the upside of that if they did give you the answers?

• 38:25Laci Mosley?

  They gave me the answers. So like the past business courses that I had no business past in, like, operations.

• 38:31Speaker 04

  So, and then, and then what? And then-

• 38:34Laci Mosley?

  I got my degree.

• 38:36Speaker 04

  And now you and George Santos have a-

• 38:40Laci Mosley?

  I wasn't as good as George Santos. He lied for fun and very extravagantly. We just did an episode about him not too long ago. He's a fun one. Y'all see him in drag, pretending that he wasn't in drag? We didn't have that in the episode, but that was very fun.

• 38:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:53Laci Mosley?

  He was like, "That's not me. Who is that?" And we're like, "Girl, we know that's you." And then other drag performers were like, "Girl, you stole my wig." And they like came in and were, it was amazing. So in September 2020, it was announced in a Facebook post made to The Ward, that was the Facebook group that our girl Susan managed, that Susan had taken her own life, in part due to the bullying that she received from fellow authors. So she was like, "The other authoresses are dragging me and it's time for me to hop off the planet."

• 39:24Speaker 04

  So, was there any evidence of this bullying, by the way?

• 39:29Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it doesn't seem like it.

• 39:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, because I don't, I can't imagine like some great author, Dostoevsky or, you know, Mark Twain, somebody taking a-

• 39:42Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Mark Twain, like, before Quentin, like, Mark Twain ran so Quentin Tarantino could fly, was just putting as many N-words in a book as possible.

• 39:52Speaker 04

  I can't imagine that, like, taking the time-

• 39:58Speaker 04

  To diss this.

• 40:00Laci Mosley?

  People have their communities and sometimes they're niche. So maybe in the niche writer world.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  So amidst the other, like, so the other authors that are writing stuffs like breasts of rage. And, uh.

• 40:13Laci Mosley?

  And they're also like, fuck Susan. Susan Meachen and her trash ass romance books.

• 40:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, Long Beach Longing, that kind of thing.

• 40:21Laci Mosley?

  She said they made love in the ocean. Everybody knows that you can't really have sex in water. Like, you know, we don't know, but they, she said they were dragging me and so I had to leave. So it concluded, author Susan Meachen left this world behind Tuesday night for bigger and better things. Please leave us alone. We have no desire in this messed up industry. Please leave us alone. Normally, I guess this is before the time where everyone would say, please respect our privacy. It was just, please leave us alone.

• 40:51Laci Mosley?

  Because now they'd be like, please respect our privacy during this difficult time. Now it's like.

• 40:54Speaker 04

  And by the way, has anyone ever?

• 40:56Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 40:56Speaker 04

  No.

• 40:56Laci Mosley?

  No. And you know they're not going to.

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Good thing to say.

• 40:59Laci Mosley?

  It is. It's like, maybe some people will respect your privacy because you said so. Like, they were gonna leave a comment, then they're like, oh, they said, respect our privacy. I'll delete, delete, back up, backspace, backspace, backspace. But a lot of people are not gonna respect your privacy. But I love, please leave us alone. And I want to bring that back. Everybody just starts saying, please leave us alone.

• 41:17Speaker 04

  So wait, this was after the death?

• 41:19Laci Mosley?

  Yes, this is when she quote unquote died. But on January 2nd, 2023, Susan came back to life, just like Jesus. Amen. And once again, set the romance novel community aflame. Yes. So what really happened? In a post on the still active The Ward Facebook group, newly resurrected Susan said, this is her words. I debated on how to do this a million times and still not sure if it's right or not. There's going to be a.

• 41:46Speaker 04

  Susan, let me help you. It's not. Yeah, I wish you'd called me first.

• 41:51Laci Mosley?

  Why you ain't called Paula Paus though, Susan ass?

• 41:54Speaker 04

  Don't do it, it's stupid.

• 41:55Laci Mosley?

  Hey, hey Paula, do you think it would be, it's me Susan, you know, from the romance books.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 42:01Laci Mosley?

  So, so sexual.

• 42:02Speaker 04

  I loved Fuck Me to Heaven. That was such a good book.

• 42:06Laci Mosley?

  The biggest titties you've ever seen going on, the biggest adventures you ever wanted.

• 42:09Speaker 04

  Oh, Susan, so good to talk to you.

• 42:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so I retired the titties by saying that I had died.

• 42:14Speaker 04

  What?

• 42:15Laci Mosley?

  Can I tell the girls that I'm back to life?

• 42:17Speaker 04

  No, no. Oh, I wish you'd called me before you said you were, because you're not dead. This is not, this is, what are you, the third?

• 42:23Laci Mosley?

  Damn, I'm not dead, huh? Because we on the phone, huh?

• 42:25Speaker 04

  You're the third ghost.

• 42:28Laci Mosley?

  I thought, I thought I was dead, though. What if I tell everybody I thought I was dead? You think that would work?

• 42:33Speaker 04

  Uh, it's not gonna, it's, it's not gonna work. I, I think you need witness protection at this point.

• 42:37Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Well, I'm, I'm gonna do a fake book. I'm gonna do a Facebook post.

• 42:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, bad idea.

• 42:41Laci Mosley?

  That's the best way to come back into the earth is Facebook?

• 42:44Speaker 04

  Susan, don't, Susan, don't do it.

• 42:46Laci Mosley?

  You agree.

• 42:46Speaker 04

  How about write under another name?

• 42:48Laci Mosley?

  Let me read you the rest of the letter that I'm saying to Facebook. So, there's gonna be tons of questions. Yes, Susan, there will be. And a lot of people leaving the group, I guess. Now, now, not Susan, why you trying to retain your, your audience? Took them up. A lot of people leaving the group. Yeah, Susan.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:05Laci Mosley?

  But my family did what they thought was best for me, and I can't fault them for it. So now you blaming your family, saying that they killed you off. Okay. My, my family ain't ever tried to kill me off without my knowledge.

• 43:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:16Laci Mosley?

  I feel like that would be a group chat discussion at least.

• 43:18Speaker 04

  Susan's not a big responsibility taker.

• 43:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she ain't taking none so far. So she says, "I almost died again at my own hand, and they had to go through all that hell again." It says, "Returning to the ward," which is the Facebook group, "doesn't mean much, but I am in a good place now, and I am hoping to write again. Let the fun begin." That is the last part of this quote. "Let the fun begin."

• 43:42Speaker 04

  And a lot of us don't begin having fun until Susan tells us to. She's pretty much the keeper of the fun.

• 43:49Laci Mosley?

  She is.

• 43:50Speaker 04

  She opens the gate for the fun.

• 43:52Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I won't lie, though. Like, if I was in a Facebook group for something niche...

• 43:57Speaker 04

  Right? Scam goddess? Didn't she mention?

• 44:01Laci Mosley?

  You think that would get my numbers up?

• 44:02Speaker 04

  She mentioned depression and anxiety earlier, and then she had me on, and I may have shoved her over this scam goddess.

• 44:10Laci Mosley?

  Paula, you gotta announce it, though.

• 44:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:12Laci Mosley?

  So it can be real.

• 44:13Speaker 04

  And then a couple of weeks later...

• 44:14Laci Mosley?

  And there's nothing fun about this in the real sense of it, but someone pretending to do it and then coming back with the most insane explanation that gives no explanation.

• 44:23Speaker 04

  Right.

• 44:24Laci Mosley?

  That, that parts the responsibility, not to any specific family member, just to her family in general. And then she's like, "And I'm back, y'all, so let's turn up."

• 44:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, right.

• 44:33Laci Mosley?

  "They tried to kill your favorite bitch, but I'm back." Like, Susan, you got audacity, and I love that for you.

• 44:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:40Laci Mosley?

  So in response to the news, fellow author Samantha A. Cole confronted Susan in the comments of her post, asking whether her death had been a hoax. Now Samantha, you already know her death is a hoax because the death happened and then she came back and was like, JK, so it's a hoax. So this is what Samantha says. Looks like a DM. She said, what is going on? Question mark, question mark. And Susan says, nothing. I simply want my life back. My family was in a bad place and did what they thought was best for me. So she blamed it on her family and she says she want her life back, AKA like she not dead no more.

• 45:16Speaker 04

  They did what? What is it that they did? They?

• 45:19Laci Mosley?

  They said she was dead.

• 45:21Speaker 04

  Right, but.

• 45:22Laci Mosley?

  But did they? Did they or did she?

• 45:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think.

• 45:26Laci Mosley?

  She was like, I want my life back.

• 45:28Speaker 04

  I think Susan's blaming grandma.

• 45:30Laci Mosley?

  And it's like, girl. Now, listen, did I kill off some already dead family members in college so I could get later deadlines on essays? Absolutely. We all did. But this is different.

• 45:43Speaker 04

  I didn't go to college. I didn't realize that was an important part of it.

• 45:46Laci Mosley?

  It is. It's a fundamental part to get essay deadlines. Okay? And sometimes they make you produce the like obituary.

• 45:54Speaker 04

  Really?

• 45:54Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:55Speaker 04

  So far, your college education is sounding a little bit like George Santos's college education.

• 46:01Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I actually went though.

• 46:02Speaker 04

  How were you on the volleyball team? Good?

• 46:05Laci Mosley?

  I actually went though and I only pretended to be on the track team once. Okay? So I'm different.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  How did you pretend to be on the track team? Just the sweatpants?

• 46:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 46:13Speaker 04

  That's not what that necessarily indicates. Sweats?

• 46:17Laci Mosley?

  I never said I was on the track team. I just showed up looking how they look and also being black. So their biases were what happened. You know, I was using racism to my own benefit. You know, that's not my fault.

• 46:29Speaker 04

  No.

• 46:29Laci Mosley?

  That I had big thighs and wore sweats. So when Samantha asked Susan whether it was even her daughter that had posted, Susan replied, I do not have a daughter and son. I'm not worried about the book world letting me back in. I was never really in. So she was like, the girls never liked me. So I'm not worried about the book world. So get out of here, book lady, trying to chastise me because I lied about having. And a son and a daughter and about dying, like, calm down.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, she is definitely saying that fetch is not a thing.

• 46:57Laci Mosley?

  She has audacity and, you know, scammers usually do. So Susan had previously taken to the ward, that's a Facebook group, to post about her personal struggles and grievances in a community often permeated with drama. I did not know this much, like, this much drama in the book world. I'm about to dip a toe. So she complained about colleagues whom she claimed to help, but whom never offered help in return. She's like, I was putting all the girls on. I was bringing them all to the Penguin. I was doing all this and they weren't helping me back. So as she continued to publish novels and become further engrossed in the romance space, Susan became more frustrated with both the industry and the negative feedback she felt she received from other authors. In one post made in September 2020, Susan wrote, "Every day it got to the point I'd rather be dead than to deal with the industry

• 47:41Laci Mosley?

  and the people who swear that they're friends." Okay, I didn't know the writers industry was this deep.

• 47:47Speaker 04

  No, I'm not sure it is. Uh, I think, I, I, I'm, yeah, I'm not sure it is.

• 47:51Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it may, I'm, I'm working on a book right now. I might be an author, we'll see. But maybe it is this deep.

• 47:59Speaker 04

  All right, so are you gonna go on the wall?

• 48:01Laci Mosley?

  You've written a book.

• 48:02Speaker 04

  I've written a couple of books.

• 48:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you've written, yeah, books.

• 48:04Speaker 04

  And, uh, it's very hard to do. Are you finding that it's hard to do?

• 48:07Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 48:08Speaker 04

  Writing a book, it's very hard to do. I used to say-

• 48:10Laci Mosley?

  Did you get bullied by the writing community?

• 48:12Speaker 04

  I did, I got horribly bullied, horribly bullied by the writing community. Um, no, I don't, I don't, I mean, I don't know any other writers to, like, sit around and talk about writing, you know?

• 48:25Laci Mosley?

  But I mean, just like anything, there are like little cult-like communities. I do improv, UCB, we have our own cult. I'm sure there are cults within the pottery community and everywhere, you know?

• 48:35Speaker 04

  Well, I don't know.

• 48:36Laci Mosley?

  Next Door is a cult for people who own houses.

• 48:38Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't know about the pottery community, but the improv community, you're actually working together. Whereas writing is generally done-

• 48:47Laci Mosley?

  Alone.

• 48:47Speaker 04

  It's a very, yes, it's a very isolating kind of activity. And I can't imagine reaching out to other writers for like socialization because they should probably be writing.

• 48:59Laci Mosley?

  Well, then that makes, that kind of makes sense, though, to her point. If like you're doing this alone and then you're reaching out for socialization, it's probably going to come from shade. Like, you're a John Grisham girlie and the rest of the girlies are, you know, you're writing "Go On, Girl", and they write in "Sextcapades in Germany", like, you're going to be like, "Oh, they're lower than me", you know?

• 49:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:19Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, "Her titties jumped tiddly as she ran into his arms", and you're writing like some suspense.

• 49:26Speaker 04

  Oh, you don't have any trouble writing at all! That sentence, oh my god! Do you have a pen? Write that down. "Her titties jumped tiddly"?

• 49:34Laci Mosley?

  Yes, that's how they jump.

• 49:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't think-

• 49:37Laci Mosley?

  Painting a picture.

• 49:38Speaker 04

  "Tiddly" had not really been a word until now, but "tiddly".

• 49:41Laci Mosley?

  And here we are.

• 49:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:43Laci Mosley?

  So in public posts, she also alluded that her previous struggles with mental illness as she had recently been diagnosed-

• 49:48Speaker 04

  Previous? Previous struggles? She's right in the middle of it, "previous".

• 49:52Laci Mosley?

  Current and previous.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, thank you.

• 49:54Laci Mosley?

  And she said she was recently diagnosed with bipolar disorder. And that her past, like, she talked about her past suicide attempts. So online friends, including a few who would later be accused of bullying, reached out to Susan as her posts grew worse. So Susan, like, kind of laid the foundation, writer-wise, as like, "Hey, y'all, shit is going bad, it's going left", and like, kind of built up to this fake, you know, unaliving. So according to one friend, she was becoming pretty chaotic. It just seemed like every problem that surfaced with her, she was in the middle of it, and it turned to where she was the victim of all of it. So all of a sudden, all of her problems, she's like, "Everybody doing everything to me, and I'm, I'm being hurt".

• 50:32Speaker 04

  You know what? She is this close to being Republican president.

• 50:36Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 50:36Speaker 04

  Because that's a, that's a big thing in the Republican world.

• 50:40Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's like, "Black people happen to me", it's like, "What does that mean"?

• 50:43Speaker 04

  It's all, it's all-

• 50:44Laci Mosley?

  "Trans people are happening to me, y'all, they happening to me", that's J.K. Rowling. Wait, see? She's in the writer community, so maybe. Because J.K. Rowling really acts like trans people happen to her, and I don't even know, understand that phrase, but that's-

• 50:57Speaker 04

  I know.

• 50:58Laci Mosley?

  That's how she live.

• 50:58Speaker 04

  I don't know. Yeah, I don't get.

• 51:00Laci Mosley?

  Such a disappointment. It's like, how you gonna write a whole book series and then it gets grounded into these movies that are huge and it's all about somebody who doesn't fit it and whose parents don't want them? And then you're like, I hate the demographic that this actually resonates with the most. Like, what? And at the time that she wrote those books, we didn't know she was harboring all these feelings about people that she don't know.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:20Laci Mosley?

  That's the other thing is like, girl, I know a lot of trans people who are in my life. I know a lot of non-binary people. And they are wonderful. You talk about this shit and it's so apparent that you don't even know any of these people.

• 51:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:35Laci Mosley?

  And like, why are you preoccupied with people that you don't know? Waking up every day, talking about people that you don't even know. Like, girl, it's giving weird. Like, find something else to do in your spare time, sis, because what is this? So, at home, Susan's family grew concerned as she entered periods of mania or psychosis during which she would talk like a character from her book, like she was the individual that she was writing. And in an interview with the New York Times, Susan herself said, "I would log on and get in, and at some point in the day, my two worlds would collide. And it would be hard to differentiate between the book world and the real world." It was like they would sandwich together. So she's getting off Facebook and completely losing her

• 52:14Speaker 04

  I'm not buying it.

• 52:15Laci Mosley?

  touch in reality. None of this sounds legit to me.

• 52:17Speaker 04

  No. I can't imagine that the, in the, I cannot imagine.

• 52:21Laci Mosley?

  And also, like, you're having delusions about the books that you wrote? Only the books that you wrote?

• 52:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:27Laci Mosley?

  Only the books that you wrote? Nothing else?

• 52:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:30Laci Mosley?

  I just started having delusions and dropping to my t-shirt brand everywhere. It's so wild. I'm like, buy Scam Goddess t-shirts. Oh, no, what happened to me? That was a Minto moment. Like, girl.

• 52:41Speaker 04

  You didn't even hear yourself say that.

• 52:42Laci Mosley?

  No, I didn't.

• 52:43Speaker 04

  You were like, I saw you go into like, almost a trance.

• 52:46Laci Mosley?

  [email protected]. Oh, wait, where am I? Like, I don't know.

• 52:51Speaker 04

  Wow. I was here for that.

• 52:52Laci Mosley?

  Something happening here, because obviously she's made choices that are, choices that most of us wouldn't necessarily make unless we were in some sort of crisis. But at the same time, you just going between your book characters, it feels like a plug. Especially because in all these moments, you felt the need to go on Facebook.

• 53:10Speaker 04

  Well, precisely. Yeah, it does. It feels like it. It does.

• 53:14Laci Mosley?

  So both Susan and her husband Troy became concerned that her addiction to the book world was causing her bipolar depression symptoms to become worse and to danger her welfare.

• 53:22Speaker 04

  What do you mean addiction to the book world? Meaning the world within her books?

• 53:24Laci Mosley?

  To her Facebook group.

• 53:26Speaker 04

  Oh, to the face. Oh, yeah.

• 53:28Laci Mosley?

  Which was her book world. Yes. So it was allegedly Troy that instructed their 22 year old daughter to write the initial Facebook death announcement after a final incident when she found Susan semi-conscious after overdosing on one of her medications. Troy has since said, this is her husband, she could not stop it on her own, and even to this day, I'll take 100% blame, the accolades, whatever you want to call it. Now, how you gonna say you're gonna take blame and then say the accolades? He was like, I will take 100% blame and I will take all of the praise for what I did that was valiant? Hello?

• 54:01Speaker 04

  He's just saying.

• 54:01Laci Mosley?

  Y'all loved it?

• 54:02Speaker 04

  However, people respond, he's taking responsibility, which is something that Susan didn't do.

• 54:08Laci Mosley?

  But nobody says that when they say they're gonna take responsibility, they're not.

• 54:11Speaker 04

  He did. Wait, who's Troy?

• 54:13Laci Mosley?

  Troy is her husband. This is a bad thing. Faking your death is a bad thing, especially if you have a fan base and you're faking your death to people who obviously care enough to log into Facebook and talk to you every day.

• 54:25Speaker 04

  On the other hand, okay, so, all right, so, all right, so this person.

• 54:31Laci Mosley?

  And that's Troy up there.

• 54:32Speaker 04

  As far as they know, that Susan is dead, right? And so they all grieve and they all, you know, for those who are religious, you know, they pray, like, oh, bring Susan back. I wish this ever. And then Susan.

• 54:47Laci Mosley?

  Bring Susan back? Is that what they praying for when they pray?

• 54:50Speaker 04

  Yeah. Bring Su- oh, bring Susan. What a loss.

• 54:55Laci Mosley?

  Jesus, send it back down.

• 54:57Speaker 04

  Yeah. If only Susan, I would do anything if Susan were back. And then Susan comes back and shouldn't they just be patting themselves on the back? Shouldn't they be like, whoa?

• 55:08Laci Mosley?

  Have they?

• 55:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:09Laci Mosley?

  That's so weird. If someone passes away and then they came back to life, like, you think you'd be like, oh, I'm relieved, but you're kind of mad that you like had to go through this grief journey. It's not the...

• 55:18Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 55:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I wonder if people were mad when Jesus came back at the tomb. They're like, for real, Jesus? For real? You gonna play with us like that? Okay. Who knows?

• 55:27Speaker 04

  His whole Facebook group was very put off.

• 55:31Laci Mosley?

  All the disciples in their 12 man Facebook group were like, really? He gonna come back like this? Like, he ain't even telling none of us. Yeah, so we're looking at Troy right now and they're hugged up. Here's Susan again. She's giving us a smile.

• 55:43Speaker 04

  That's a happier face on Susan.

• 55:44Laci Mosley?

  She's in the same shirt, it looks like.

• 55:46Speaker 04

  Susan only has one shirt. That's it.

• 55:49Laci Mosley?

  We all need a Troy.

• 55:49Speaker 04

  I wear the same shirt and sweater every day.

• 55:52Laci Mosley?

  Troy seems like he's very down for Susan. He came out and took all the blame for Susan and was like, it was me. I fake killed her. And accolades. I fake killed her. So, however, though, Susan's death, in quotes, was meant to keep her offline and it didn't stop her from going right back, apparently. So shortly after Susan's comeback post, Samantha revealed that Susan had created a burner Facebook profile in the name.

• 56:14Speaker 04

  What's that?

• 56:15Laci Mosley?

  So a burner is like where you don't put your real photo, your real name. So you can lurk and like posts or watch stories or whatever and nobody knows it's you because it's not your real account. So that's a burner. So a lot of people will have like Finstas, which is like a fake Instagram account where they can look at people's stories or like posts or post their own stuff without other people knowing that it's them if they're like a notable person or whatever. So she made a fake Facebook so that she could lurk. Probably so that she could get on the ward, the Facebook page and see like, which honestly, I'm not mad at that because I've been thinking like, you know, funerals are for the living. So if there's a funeral, it's like all of us having this cathartic moment to say goodbye to this person that we love, but the person isn't there. And so we're saying all these nice things, but the person can't hear it. I'm like, can I have a funeral before I die?

• 56:57Laci Mosley?

  So I can just hear like how cute and lovely I was and how much everybody loved me? Like I just be in the casket like, hee hee hee hee.

• 57:06Speaker 04

  So creepy. What was that noise? What was that noise?

• 57:09Laci Mosley?

  Nothing, nothing, nothing. Like people walk past the casket, I'm like, oh, my bad. So shortly after Susan's comeback post, Samantha revealed that Susan had created a burner Facebook.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  Wait a minute, who's Samantha again?

• 57:22Laci Mosley?

  So Samantha was the other author who was pissed about this whole Susan situation and had DM'd her and was like, girl, like, so are you alive or not? Like, what's going on? All that stuff, right? So Samantha didn't let go. She's mad, she's a hater and love this for her. She was like, I found her burner account. It's under the name T N.

• 57:41Speaker 04

  And how would someone find a burner account? This is all, this is all totally new to me.

• 57:46Laci Mosley?

  Because Samantha was on her ass. Samantha was checking the dat, the, the facts, the dates. Like Samantha figured it out.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  Right, but I still don't see how she would find her burner account. If, if you just, if you just make up an account with somebody else's name.

• 57:59Laci Mosley?

  Well, she's a writer. And the thing about being a writer is that if you have enough writing out, published, and you write in a certain cadence, or you write a certain way, it's pretty easy to figure out, like, oh, this sounds exactly like this person who's allegedly left the planet.

• 58:15Speaker 04

  That's why Shakespeare could never have a, a successful burner account, because people kept finding him, because everything he posted was to be...

• 58:23Laci Mosley?

  And we don't even, it was on iambic pentameter.

• 58:26Speaker 04

  People are like, oh, that's Bill again, oh.

• 58:29Laci Mosley?

  Shakespeare was basically just a rapper. He, you know, he had one style of rap, and we knew what he was gonna give us, okay? Iambic pentameter.

• 58:37Speaker 04

  Is rap in iambic pentameter? Because I don't know.

• 58:39Laci Mosley?

  I mean, people rap in different cadences, and they stay that way. Every single, the baby song is the exact same cadence. And that's why he sucks, also because he sucks as a human. Anyways.

• 58:47Speaker 04

  Now, okay, what, okay, is bitch don't kill my vibe, is that?

• 58:52Laci Mosley?

  No, that's Kendrick Lamar.

• 58:53Speaker 04

  Bitch don't kill my vibe.

• 58:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 58:55Speaker 04

  I like that. Yeah, I like that.

• 58:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Kendrick still, he's, he's alright for now. But, uh, so fun fact, in addition to running into T N Steel's account, and T N Steel is the fake Facebook account that Susan made. Susan was also active on TikTok the entire two years under her actual name, Susan Mision, now a locked account. So she had, she was like, I'm gonna get out here and do these dances and not even worry about people knowing if I'm alive. Can you imagine Susan hitting the whoa on TikTok? Or making a cooking video? And they're like, Susan, we thought you was dead. Now you over here chopping onions on TikTok? What happened?

• 59:26Speaker 04

  Because she was wearing that same pink shirt. People are like, that's her, that's her.

• 59:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, wait, she got it on right there, at the top, at the TikTok. Oh, we gotta post this, the screenshot, this TikTok, Susan. Retire this pink shirt, because, girl. Now, she uses a lot of, like, filters and stuff, so you can't really see her face, but there's a recent post-

• 59:43Speaker 04

  I don't see her face.

• 59:43Laci Mosley?

  That has her face in the middle. Susan, my girl. So, T N Steel's profile stated that she wanted- To be an author, wife, office manager, and an all-around goofier from Georgia. Okay, that's what her fake, her fake Facebook profile said. Susan's Amazon bio states that she's a wife, a mom, a meme, and a friend, who lives in southeastern corner of Tennessee with her husband of 24 years, their two cats, and four snakes. Two cats and four snakes, alright, we live in a wild, like, these are interesting pets. So, soon after Susan's death, in quotes, Connie Ortiz, her virtual assistant, posted to the ward that her family's health issues made it difficult to continue to be an admin to the group, and asked if anyone wanted to take over her duties.

• 1:00:27Laci Mosley?

  Under this post, T.N. Steele commented, "I'll take it, Connie Ortiz, I will overhaul it, and I hope that that pleases you and Susan, who is definitely dead and not me, from a fake account right now." I added the end. But so, she volunteered to take over her own account

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 1:00:44Laci Mosley?

  From her burner. So I'm sure that that also led Samantha to be like, "Oh, so you volunteering to take over the account that..."

• 1:00:50Speaker 04

  Why is there an account for someone who's dead?

• 1:00:52Laci Mosley?

  Because the girls are still reading the books, and they want to talk about the books. And Susan wanted to read their comments. And when you die, like, people stop saying mean things about you once you're dead, unless you're evil. Like, Hitler, we got hits for him all day. Like, it's, you know, he a piece of shit, we hate him. To this day, nobody will ever wear that mustache because they know what it means, like...

• 1:01:10Speaker 04

  Well, that's not true, there's a whole group of people that's decided that he's...

• 1:01:13Laci Mosley?

  There are people who still love him. But for the majority of us, we don't like that motherfucker. Fuck him. So, but for the most part, if you die, like, even if you were kind of shitty in life, people will still talk nice about you, or talk nice about your work. So I'm sure she got off on, like, reading people talk about her books and stuff, because they're not going to really say anything mean, for real, for real.

• 1:01:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, unless they're going to get a free book.

• 1:01:34Laci Mosley?

  Right. Right. So, well, then they would say even nicer stuff. So with that, Steele gained control of the group, and Susan gained a front row seat to the grieving and infighting that occurred on the ward.

• 1:01:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is gross.

• 1:01:46Laci Mosley?

  Including the harassment of her former friend Samantha. So Samantha was like, "Something ain't right, shit is fishy." And the girls in the ward were like, "She's dead, how dare you, fuck you Samantha."

• 1:01:56Speaker 04

  Oh, so Samantha guessed that she was not dead.

• 1:01:59Laci Mosley?

  Samantha was talking shit and everyone is like jumping on her about it. So Susan loved that. So the fallout of the announcement. Susan's fake death had additional ramifications outside of upsetting her fans. In initial announcement posts, it was implied that the alleged bullying from her fellow authors in the ward drove her to take her life. Remember, she was like, "The girls are being mean to me, so I fake my death." Y'all know, y'all know how you do. So some of Susan's fanbase took those accusations and pointed fingers, inciting further conflict with an already grieving community. Samantha had been one of the authors arbitrarily accused of bullying Susan and was repeatedly harassed in the intermittent two years as a result. Following Susan's death, two fundraisers claimed to benefit the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline were shared to the ward.

• 1:02:44Laci Mosley?

  Though it's unconfirmed who created them and where they came from and where the money actually went. So it kinda seems like Susan came in as the fake admin with her T-N steel and was like, "Hey, y'all, it's so sad that Susan had died because we all loved her and she was so sexy and that pink shirt was really killing it and it was okay that she wore it every day. And also, can y'all donate to these funds that is definitely going to the funds?" And then nobody knew where the funds went.

• 1:03:12Speaker 04

  But did they make any money off of it?

• 1:03:13Laci Mosley?

  People donated. Samantha had been one of the authors who was accused of bullying Susan, right? Following Susan's death, two fundraisers claiming to benefit, they, we don't know where the money went. So a group of bestselling authors even dedicated an anthology of paranormal bully romance titled Bully King Anthology to Susan. So this is like, Susan said, "The bullies killed your favorite bitch." And then they wrote a book like, "And this is dedicated to Susan because the bullies had killed her." Yeah, and it's rumored but unconfirmed that the proceeds were given to her family. So they really were trying to honor Susan's life, even though she was alive. So the summary of the book reads, "Fall in love with the jaded lead, root for the drop-dead sexy anti-hero." You know she got titties, drop-dead sexy.

• 1:03:59Laci Mosley?

  "And run from, or to, dangerous creatures of the night." Note, paranormal bully romance novels are a subgenre of romance novels where characters pursue romance. Romantic relationships through bullying while paranormal elements play a role in the characters lives as well.

• 1:04:14Speaker 04

  All right, see, this is my point. How many, how many fans of this shit could there be? This, I, I would say that this group has seven people in it. There's just no fucking paranormal.

• 1:04:27Laci Mosley?

  You don't read bu- books about ghosts that bully you and then you have ghost sex?

• 1:04:30Speaker 04

  I know, it's ghosts, sex, bullying.

• 1:04:33Laci Mosley?

  It's Casper, but he's mean and he fucks, no?

• 1:04:37Speaker 04

  It was, what was this? I can't remember. He had a cousin that was more, um, uh, um, you know, up to.

• 1:04:43Laci Mosley?

  Casper had a cousin?

• 1:04:44Speaker 04

  He did. He had a cousin that was sort of up to no good sometimes.

• 1:04:48Laci Mosley?

  I mean, listen, people loved, uh, Wednesday Addams. Wasn't she supposed to be a ghost? So editors also popped up offering to edit Susan's unreleased novel for her family for free. So now she getting free editing out of this. Her final novel was successfully published and Love to Last a Lifetime is now available for $2.99 on Kindle if y'all want to get into.

• 1:05:07Speaker 04

  Okay, successfully published, by the way, ha- has a different meaning now than it used to. You can get something published. It doesn't mean that it gets.

• 1:05:19Laci Mosley?

  You can go to FedEx and get something published.

• 1:05:20Speaker 04

  Precisely, yeah. I think Susan, I, I'm not feeling that with Susan, we're getting top of the line.

• 1:05:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's not giving that. But in February 2021, someone claiming to be Susan's daughter posted Susan's account, like posted to her account complaining that none of her books had been purchased for several months. So like, nobody is buying my dead mama books and y'all know that she had a tragic life and a tragic death, so buy her book. And as such, would be soon be avail- unavailable for purchase unless sales increase. So.

• 1:05:48Speaker 04

  Oh, boy, there's a threat.

• 1:05:49Laci Mosley?

  Pretending to be her daughter was like, if y'all don't start buying my dead mama book, it's gonna be dead to the world because we gonna take it offline.

• 1:05:54Speaker 04

  That's right. The shit you don't want, you're not gonna have it anymore.

• 1:05:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you better stop, you better start wanting this shit you don't want.

• 1:06:01Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:06:02Laci Mosley?

  Why y'all don't want this shit y'all don't want? Y'all better get it right now before you can't get it anymore, even though you don't want it.

• 1:06:06Speaker 04

  Although there, there is a certain technique to that.

• 1:06:09Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it is, like scarcity creates demand.

• 1:06:12Speaker 04

  Definitely.

• 1:06:12Laci Mosley?

  And, and still does. There's so many diamonds in the world, y'all, like they're just inching them out when they stole them, you know?

• 1:06:19Speaker 04

  I got shit loads. I, I, I, I got some right here in my pocket.

• 1:06:24Laci Mosley?

  Loose diamonds, Paula? You just show up with loose diamonds everywhere you go?

• 1:06:27Speaker 04

  There was a, um, comic years ago that used to do, she would go in and make a deal with clubs where she would do Monday nights and she would.

• 1:06:38Speaker 04

  Take the door and they would get the bar sales. And her big hook was it's for women only. Which I don't even know if that's legal, by the way. But she was, it's for women only. Only women can come in. Now, I don't, prior to that, I don't know that that many people wanted to see her one way or the other. But by excluding a group, by in a very public deliberate way excluding a group. She made tons doing that.

• 1:07:07Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I bet. And listen, men already hate women. A lot of cisgendered men hate women. So, I mean, it just, you know, in general. So she just made like the best advertisement campaign. Cause then they're gonna come on and complain like, see, this is why we hate women. Look at this, look at this woman's only a.

• 1:07:24Speaker 04

  Oh, oh, and they did. Men made a big fuss about it. Like the very men, so it's very much like the daughter. The shit you don't want, you are not gonna be able to have it. If you don't buy it right now.

• 1:07:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, exactly. Even though you don't want it, and I've seen that.

• 1:07:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:40Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:07:40Speaker 04

  We are not, I'm not gonna let you vacuum this room if you don't.

• 1:07:45Laci Mosley?

  And I, I love this. So it's unknown if sales did increase after the post. But one of her Amazon Kindle store ratings jumped from, it was like 200,000, like, like almost 300,000. And then it jumped to 82,000, around 82,000. So it jumped pretty highly.

• 1:08:02Speaker 04

  That is a big jump.

• 1:08:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so somebody went, at least looked at the book.

• 1:08:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:07Laci Mosley?

  So since Susan's resurrection, amen. Many have called for her to be investigated and prosecuted for fraud, claiming that she faked her death for book sales and to solicit cash donations. Two police officers even visited her home to discuss the allegations. And still, others have reported her to the FBI cyber crimes unit. So, and that's the thing, like she came back to the group chat and said, let the games begin. We gonna have fun. And some people were like, oh, you're back, we love you. And other people were like, we're reporting you to the FBI.

• 1:08:34Speaker 04

  I, I didn't know that would be illegal, but I guess it might be, right?

• 1:08:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they have to be in the eye, especially if they can trace back those GoFundMes to her. For her fake death.

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:08:44Laci Mosley?

  To charity.

• 1:08:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Laci Mosley?

  So Susan has since said, "I'm sorry for their mourning, but from a legal standpoint, I did nothing wrong. Morally, I might have done something wrong, but legally, there's nothing wrong." I love that this is not a real-

• 1:08:57Speaker 04

  Lawful but awful. You know, you'll remember your expression.

• 1:09:00Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:09:01Speaker 04

  Lawful but awful. That I created it right here on this show.

• 1:09:03Laci Mosley?

  Yes. She was like, "Look, I didn't- I'm so sorry to all of those who might have been offended by me faking my own death." Like, the fakest worst apology. Anytime an apology has an "if" in it-

• 1:09:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:16Laci Mosley?

  "I'm so sorry if you were offended." Clearly, people were offended. Otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this public apology. You wouldn't open your front face to camera if people weren't offended. We're talking about "if."

• 1:09:26Laci Mosley?

  Why are you gaslighting us in your apology? Don't put "if" in your apology.

• 1:09:30Speaker 04

  Wait, did you just say you wouldn't open your front face?

• 1:09:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, your front face to camera. And get on here and record yourself talking about some "if." If nobody's mad, you wouldn't be apologizing. So, there's no "if" about it.

• 1:09:41Speaker 04

  Yeah. If, if someone was offended.

• 1:09:44Laci Mosley?

  But "if" is how people protect themselves. So, it's like, "I'm so sorry for their mourning." Like, what do you mean? You faked your death to your fans directly, like-

• 1:09:53Speaker 04

  Yeah. She could have faked something less. She could have faked, like, just a really bad rash.

• 1:09:57Laci Mosley?

  What about a coma? Like, a cute little coma? Because people come out of those all the time. Give us a soap opera moment.

• 1:10:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:03Laci Mosley?

  And just be in a coma.

• 1:10:03Speaker 04

  And then everybody would be-

• 1:10:04Laci Mosley?

  They would be sad still.

• 1:10:05Speaker 04

  No, they would feel that they brought her back.

• 1:10:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And that would be more satisfying if she just woke up one day and was like, "I'm back, y'all."

• 1:10:13Speaker 04

  Or just, if you just, I think it's a le- yeah, a lesser- Because death being so- she could have faked a nap. She could have just faked a nap. And people, you know, because nap is, you know, trying out being away from people for a while.

• 1:10:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:28Speaker 04

  That's good. She could have faked a vacation.

• 1:10:30Laci Mosley?

  Right, something. So, for now, she is taking a break from writing to deal with the fake Susans that have popped up impersonating her on social media and the additional fallout from coming back from the dead. I do believe there probably are some fake Susans, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the fake Susans were real Susan pretending to be fake Susan. Because she is a perpetual victim. So, she's trying to find more victimhoods.

• 1:10:49Speaker 04

  This whole thing is a, um, uh, promotion. Right, it's promotional. It's just because we're talking about Susan.

• 1:10:55Laci Mosley?

  She blamed her husband, although I will say Susan, you married right because your husband stood beside you. He said, I'm gonna stand beside her. She did, I'm gonna stand beside the coffin. He probably went to the funeral home, took some selfies, posted them, like he, he's giving a real faithful spouse. He said, I was the one who faked her death, everybody, so all the accolades.

• 1:11:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, all the accolades.

• 1:11:14Laci Mosley?

  All the accolades, and if y'all mad, y'all, y'all can be mad at me, but also all the accolades if y'all love me for it.

• 1:11:19Speaker 04

  She's really taking the, take, yeah, taking the bullet for her.

• 1:11:22Laci Mosley?

  Right, but also the flowers. He's like the bullet, but also the flowers. But mostly flowers? Flowers with little bullets in them? Let's talk about it. So, all fourteen of her titles remain available for purchase on Amazon Kindle. And Susan is a whole criminal, and I'm gonna read these book titles because they are very funny. Here we go. Romance novel books. Losing Him and Finding You. Stolen Moments, ooh, that mean you a side hoe. Chance Encounters, oh, you like to have sex at work. Chance Encounters Two, Letting Go. Y'all can't have sex at work no more than install cameras. Losing Hope, Book One, in the Finding Me Duet. Finding Faith, so you already lost hope, now you find faith, Book Two, in the Finding Me Duet. Never slash ever.

• 1:12:07Laci Mosley?

  Is there anything about neck pants? Neck pants, jerking it on the Greyhound.

• 1:12:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, neck pants on the Greyhound. That's a very romantic.

• 1:12:14Laci Mosley?

  Smoky Mountain Love. And remember. Tennessee. Yeah, oh, yes, Paula, that's what I was about to say. Susan lived in the Smoky Mountains of Tennessee. You, so you know, because you drove across these Smoky Mountains.

• 1:12:26Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 1:12:27Laci Mosley?

  Special Delivery, I'm guessing the delivery was Penis? My Crush, that's when you stalking somebody, but you making it cute, calling it a crush. His Wicked Way, ooh, that sounds like he was toxic but sexy. And then Love to Last a Lifetime, which was her posthumous public, or.

• 1:12:47Speaker 04

  Oh, that was the one after she, oh.

• 1:12:49Laci Mosley?

  After she picked die.

• 1:12:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, not that long.

• 1:12:52Laci Mosley?

  And then I love the title Last a Lifetime, but it's her lifetime had ended.

• 1:12:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's deep.

• 1:12:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, so now her husband doesn't have to do her anymore. Because she had love to last a lifetime, but that lifetime's over. That's why, that's why he helped fake her death.

• 1:13:06Laci Mosley?

  Sex in the grave.

• 1:13:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:13:08Laci Mosley?

  Sex in the Cemetery. My posthumous book.

• 1:13:12Speaker 04

  Making it at the mortuary.

• 1:13:13Laci Mosley?

  I mean, making it at the mortuary. No, no, not the necro, not the necrophiles. Oh, man, Susan, I don't know how to feel about you. Final thoughts on Susan?

• 1:13:26Speaker 04

  Susan, I.

• 1:13:28Laci Mosley?

  Because she didn't call you, and she should have.

• 1:13:29Speaker 04

  No, she should have, before she started the whole stupid thing. All right, Susan, I tell you what. You know, you've really transgressed, first of all. But I, for me, and I can't speak for everybody, I can't speak for the ward, and I can't speak for the writers' community. But for me, you could redeem yourself by writing a book wherein you explain that women's breasts don't heave.

• 1:13:59Speaker 04

  It's a big thing.

• 1:14:00Laci Mosley?

  That's a cornerstone of her work.

• 1:14:01Speaker 04

  That's a big thing in romance novels. There's always heaving breasts.

• 1:14:04Laci Mosley?

  Heaving, yeah.

• 1:14:05Speaker 04

  Breasts don't heave.

• 1:14:06Laci Mosley?

  Your breasts have never heaved. Mine have been heaving all the time. I was heaving all the way in here. I heaved to the sea.

• 1:14:12Speaker 04

  No, that's because you don't take care of yourself. That's what that is.

• 1:14:16Laci Mosley?

  I'm heaving right now, y'all, can you hear it?

• 1:14:19Laci Mosley?

  Did y'all hear my titties? That was my titties, that wasn't my throat.

• 1:14:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, no, that's not a sexual thing. That's a, that's a, your lungs are.

• 1:14:25Laci Mosley?

  I'm out of breath, I need to do more cardio.

• 1:14:27Speaker 04

  Your lungs aren't what they should be. So, yeah, they don't heave, and I'm sure a lot of guys feel like somehow they didn't, you know, or women feel like they didn't give their partner what they needed or wanted because their breasts didn't heave. They have to, breasts don't heave.

• 1:14:44Laci Mosley?

  I love that.

• 1:14:44Speaker 04

  They just hang there.

• 1:14:45Laci Mosley?

  Your piece of advice is not about her faking her death, it's just about the heaving breasts.

• 1:14:50Speaker 04

  No, I'm telling you, I would be willing to put the whole.

• 1:14:53Laci Mosley?

  You'll forgive her.

• 1:14:53Speaker 04

  Scam aside if she will just clear up, if she'll take, you know.

• 1:15:00Laci Mosley?

  Retract the heaves.

• 1:15:01Speaker 04

  Right, if she'll make this one step towards honesty on behalf of the entire romance novel-writing community.

• 1:15:08Laci Mosley?

  I mean, Losing Him and Finding You, that title alone, I'm like, I don't know, I might have to read that and see if I find myself by the end.

• 1:15:15Speaker 04

  Losing Him and Finding You.

• 1:15:17Laci Mosley?

  They say everywhere you go, there you are, but I don't know. Maybe I need to read this book and figure out where I am at.

• 1:15:22Speaker 04

  No, you gotta get a GPS for that, you gotta.

• 1:15:25Laci Mosley?

  It's Ways, but for finding yourself.

• 1:15:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:15:27Laci Mosley?

  That's the book I write. Well, Susan.

• 1:15:30Speaker 04

  I'm over here, I'm over here.

• 1:15:32Laci Mosley?

  Susan, I guess I'm glad you're back alive.

• 1:15:37Laci Mosley?

  We'll see what happens, but you do have another book you you could just write about how you lied about being dead and the girls would read it. So some more book, what about Losing Me and Finding Me Again? Or I Died But Really I Did It?

• 1:15:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:15:52Laci Mosley?

  Back From The Grave?

• 1:15:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:15:55Laci Mosley?

  To Save? I don't know, Susan.

• 1:15:57Speaker 04

  Take another shovel full. That's, yeah.

• 1:16:01Laci Mosley?

  I mean, listen, ain't nobody ever opened up the door at the, uh, at the funeral home and hopped out, you know?

• 1:16:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:16:06Laci Mosley?

  At the mausoleum.

• 1:16:07Speaker 04

  Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Ta-da! That could be.

• 1:16:11Laci Mosley?

  Ashes to Ashy. I put lotion on and I'm back to life. You know, like, work on it. These are working titles. You got it, Susan. All right. The saddest part of the show is where I have to let Paula Poundstone go.

• 1:16:21Speaker 04

  Let's take another break. Okay, we're back.

• 1:16:24Laci Mosley?

  But before we do that, scammer of the week. So we're just gonna talk about a charlatan who maybe or maybe not is worthy of our praise. I love that it's a Florida woman because I know, Paula, you you have some interest in the Florida scam community. So a Florida woman has been arrested after a four-year-long romance scam, keeping on the romance theme, that resulted in defrauding an 87-year-old Holocaust survivor.

• 1:16:46Speaker 04

  Oy, oy. Yeah.

• 1:16:48Laci Mosley?

  If you went through the Holocaust, and I met a lot of Holocaust survivors because they used to like, I don't want to call it a tour because that feels weird, but they would go to schools and like, we would meet them and they would tell us stories and stuff from like their days and, you know.

• 1:17:03Speaker 04

  Public speaking.

• 1:17:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, public speaking. There we go. It's not a tour. I'm not making it sound like they Jack Harlow, like they on stage, like, put your hands on the air, have you heard it all? No, it's not, it's not that. But it was really dope because you got to get stories from elders, like, who really experienced like these tragic events and like, it was really cool to meet them. But how you gonna take advantage of somebody who already went through so much? Like, come on now, scam a, uh, investment banker who's 87, not a Holocaust survivor. Like, god damn. So Peaches Sturjo, well, your name is Peaches. You, all you could do was have a life of crime. Oh, look at Peaches. In her mugshot, she looked like she was... This look like if we cropped out one bridesmaid from a photo.

• 1:17:47Laci Mosley?

  You know those weddings where they have several different things they make you pay for? Like you gotta go on the bachelorette trip, you gotta have a matching swimsuit that y'all get off Etsy, and then y'all go to the wedding and they make you wear a A-line dress that don't work for your body type? It's giving like they cropped her face out of one of those photos. She looks beat though, like she got the blush on, the lip, the brow.

• 1:18:05Speaker 04

  No, but there's crime behind Peaches' eyes.

• 1:18:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Peaches', I mean, her name is Peaches'. Her family set her up for crime. That's a crime legacy name.

• 1:18:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, see, you're too young, but there used to be a band, or is it Duo? Peaches and Herb.

• 1:18:19Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I know about Peaches and Herb.

• 1:18:21Speaker 04

  Yeah?

• 1:18:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I know about them.

• 1:18:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Peaches.

• 1:18:25Speaker 04

  This Peaches, yeah, this Peaches really, I'm telling you, there's crime behind those eyes.

• 1:18:29Laci Mosley?

  It is.

• 1:18:29Speaker 04

  And I don't think those eyebrows are real.

• 1:18:31Laci Mosley?

  No, they're definitely not. Those eyebrows came from Sephora, and that's okay. I get mine there too sometimes. But Peaches got a good beat and it's giving a little bit. I'm not mad at Peaches so far. So, Peaches, her name is Peaches Sturjo, which she didn't have a chance. Thirty-six, she began her scam in 2017 when she met her victim in an online dating site. She eventually asked him for funds to pay for her lawyer, who she claims was refusing to release the funds for a jury, an injury settlement? So, she was basically like, "I got a big settlement."

• 1:19:03Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:19:04Laci Mosley?

  "Peaches slipped on some juice FL, and the girls aren't trying to give me my coins until I pay them or whatever, so can you, a Holocaust survivor, give me coins?"

• 1:19:15Laci Mosley?

  So, the victim gave her the money, but there were no funds to be received from any injury settlement. And I've said this a billion times, I'll say it again. If anybody's like, "Hey, I got a lot of money, but I need money from you," stop right there, full stop.

• 1:19:26Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:19:27Laci Mosley?

  You are heiress, or you got funds coming in, or you got a settlement, but you need money from me? It's not giving you have money. That's not how money work. Uh-uh. No, thank you. Just stop right there, walk away. Scream. You know, that makes people uncomfortable. Just do a scream, you know? Have you ever screamed, like, in chill company, like you're just chilling with somebody, y'all talking, and you're just like, "Ah!" Like, try it. It's very unnerving. And then maybe they'll leave.

• 1:19:51Speaker 04

  I don't think they give up that easily. You know, Peaches looks like more of a pomegranate to me. Do you get that?

• 1:19:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, she's more of a pomegranate. Yeah, there's crime behind those.

• 1:20:00Laci Mosley?

  Oh, for sure. You open that up, it's gonna be hella work. Pomegranates are the hardest working fruit in the game. Like, I didn't, I didn't sign up for a job when I'm eating fruit. And when you open a pomegranate, you gotta munch on all the seeds, spit them out. That's a lot of work.

• 1:20:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's why that palm juice is so expensive.

• 1:20:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:17Speaker 04

  Thousands of people worked on that eight ounce.

• 1:20:19Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm, to get it all out of them tiny little seeds.

• 1:20:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:20:23Laci Mosley?

  But it does bust, though. It do be busting, so shout out to Palm, sponsor the show. So, over the following four years, Peaches forged documents and impersonated a bank employee in order to extract from her victim more than fan, more fancy trips, Rolex watches, and luxury purchases. I mean, were they going together? It just kinda sound like they was going together. This man was 87, Peaches, she know how to do her makeup and keep it cute. It sounds like he got a baddie in. Baddies cost money.

• 1:20:51Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:20:51Laci Mosley?

  Baddies cost money. I lost my wallet for a whole weekend and didn't even notice because my boo was paying for everything. Baddies are expensive, you know? What are you gonna do?

• 1:21:00Speaker 04

  Did you get it back, your wallet?

• 1:21:01Laci Mosley?

  I did.

• 1:21:02Speaker 04

  Wow, I like that.

• 1:21:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and, and didn't have to pay for nothing. And I didn't even have to say I lost my wallet. I lost my wallet and didn't notice, cuz I never had to reach for it. Amen.

• 1:21:10Speaker 04

  Wow, I don't have a wallet. I just.

• 1:21:14Laci Mosley?

  You just out here on vibes, Paula?

• 1:21:15Speaker 04

  No, I just put my money in my pocket. I don't have a wallet.

• 1:21:18Laci Mosley?

  No, you just telling me you're Queen Victoria of Comedy, and they're like, oh, you don't have to pay for this, except for Dunkin' Donuts.

• 1:21:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I pay.

• 1:21:25Laci Mosley?

  Where y'all call her up in the altercation. Yo, they owe you money. I'm gonna get you that settlement, but first you gotta help me pay my lawyer.

• 1:21:31Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, I'll do that. Where do I sign?

• 1:21:35Laci Mosley?

  So, in total, Peaches manipulated her victim into writing 62 checks totaling over $2.8 million.

• 1:21:43Speaker 04

  Oh, gee, Monique's, okay, there's something wrong. Okay, well, clearly, the victim had been through a lot, and therefore, maybe not.

• 1:21:51Laci Mosley?

  I wanna say, Peaches, even though there's definitely no life behind her eyes, she feels like a fun time. I feel like if I went to dinner with Peaches, she would keep me laughing and on my toes. So, I don't know, maybe she's worth $2.8 million.

• 1:22:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're putting a lot of backstory into Peaches that I just don't think is there.

• 1:22:06Laci Mosley?

  Okay, Peaches just got a fresh blowout, okay? Her hair is shiny. Okay, she not using three-in-one shampoo. She definitely got one-on-one shampoo and conditioner. Okay, I, I like Peaches. This is a long one, guys, but we're, we're at the end. So eventually, he lost his life savings and had to give up his apartment. At the same time, Peaches bought a home in a gated community, a condominium, a boat, and numerous cars, including a Corvette and a Chevy Suburban. A Chevy Suburban gives me like Peaches had a man on the side.

• 1:22:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, Peaches wasn't coming across for the 87 year.

• 1:22:39Laci Mosley?

  She might have driven the Corvette, but I feel like the, the Chevy was for whoever was giving Peaches that, that D. Whoever Peaches was getting the banana from was getting that Chevy.

• 1:22:51Speaker 04

  I just heard a story that on, I think it was, I think it was on NPR, maybe? That sometimes mismanagement of money is often a precursor, an early sign of dementia.

• 1:23:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:10Speaker 04

  And my guess is that 87-year-old man, after everything this poor guy's been through, that that is what this is, you know?

• 1:23:17Laci Mosley?

  And that's why scammers target elderly people.

• 1:23:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:23:20Laci Mosley?

  We say it all the time on the show, call your grandma, call your grandpa, otherwise you're not gonna get no inheritance, because whoever calling them gonna get it, okay? I'm about to call me ma and see how she doing and see what's going on on the porch. But Peaches has been charged with one count of wire fraud, which carries a max sentence of 20 years. So if you do it on Western Union, if you do it on Zelle, honey, if they catch you, they're gonna give you the charges. That's like the mail. I told y'all, don't mail your scams, because the postal unit will show up and they'll put you in that car with no doors, and you go in the jail.

• 1:23:47Speaker 04

  You know what? I think Peaches has it coming, I do.

• 1:23:50Laci Mosley?

  I mean, what if he had fun? He 87, these are the last years of his life. Peaches sounds like a thrill. I don't know. I feel like let Peaches out, you know?

• 1:24:02Speaker 04

  Let, let Peaches out, that's gonna be, that t-shirt is gonna fly off the shelves.

• 1:24:06Laci Mosley?

  Put Peaches back on the trees, honey, I want her in the street.

• 1:24:09Speaker 04

  You can get a scam goddess t-shirt, and also it comes with a let Peaches out t-shirt.

• 1:24:15Laci Mosley?

  Let Peaches out, yes. It comes with a fresh peach. We can't guarantee how fresh it is, though, this is America. Uh, but we always ask at the end of the show, where would you like to be found? Anything you want to plug, any socials?

• 1:24:25Speaker 04

  Here, we've been talking about death and you said, where would you like to be found? Oh, please.

• 1:24:31Laci Mosley?

  You and Nathan Crest both went here. He was like the La Brea Tar Pits. I was like, not your body, bro.

• 1:24:36Speaker 04

  That's no, that's what I thought you meant. Like, oh, tell me it's not gonna be like hovering over the toilet or something. Okay.

• 1:24:42Laci Mosley?

  No, I would hope your ghost doesn't have to haunt the toilet. That feels like a bad ghost job.

• 1:24:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:24:47Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 1:24:47Speaker 04

  No, no, no.

• 1:24:48Laci Mosley?

  I'm trying to haunt a mansion.

• 1:24:49Speaker 04

  Where would I like to be found? I have a podcast called Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone. And I tour theaters around the country all the time. And you can find out where at paulapoundstone.com. Click on the tour page and you can see if I'm gonna be near you, either to come to see my show or to get away.

• 1:25:11Laci Mosley?

  They're coming to see. Also, only the hottest people at Paula Poundstone's show. So you better be sexy when you go to the door. Is that creating enough scarcity?

• 1:25:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's good. Right, yeah, we don't like in people that are.

• 1:25:24Laci Mosley?

  Non-sexies is not allowed. No, all right, y'all. As always, you can find me at D I V A L A C I D, Velaci, on all platforms. Y'all, watch The George Lopez Show. I'll be popping up on there a lot. The new season of iCarly, I don't know when that's coming out, but we just wrapped it, so y'all will see soon. And if you want to see the photos of our beautiful queen Susan in her pink shirt in all different locations, Scam Goddess Pod on all platforms. Scam Goddess Pod on the Instagram. You know, that's where I post all the photos. And if you want to talk to me, Scam Goddess Pod on Twitter. Congregation, send me those emails and stitch on your friends and your family. Tell us your scams, as long as they're retired. Or if they're not and you want to put us on, we left some tea. [email protected]. Congregation, stay resurrecting.

• 1:26:08Laci Mosley?

  Okay, let's all come back on the third day. Amen.

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