Pod Insights Scam Goddess Tyra Banks: CEO of Doing the Most LIVE at Cobbs w/ Jacquis Neal About this episode CONgregation, we’re back this week LIVE from Cobbs Comedy Club, where Laci was joined by comedian, actor, and host Jacquis Neal (Grand Crew, Crowd Control). Laci invited fans to steal merch and books, and together they pondered whether flight vouchers for giving up your seat on an overbooked plane are actually worth it. They discussed TikTok Shop and asked the age-old question: Are fathers a scam? Finally, they dug into the scam empire of the iconic Tyra Banks and listened to listener letters live in person! Stay schemin’!
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1:58 Laci Mosley? Y'all gonna put, y'all gonna put some lights on?
2:02 Laci Mosley? Okay, I'm black, baby. That was just teeth and eyes. We, we, we need lights. Oh, oh, thank goodness. Okay, there's so many more black people than I thought would be...
2:15 Laci Mosley? Listen, we love, we love a diverse crowd, honey, okay? I love that all of my bisexual white men bring their boyfriends.
2:25 Laci Mosley? Oh, Luke, Austin, hi! Courtney, hi! Oh, man, family's here. Y'all know how I start these shows if you've been to these shows before. But I have to make a brief interruption because I need y'all to know how goddamn hard it was for me to get here today.
2:43 Laci Mosley? I love you all so much that I fought through the airport. Apparently, y'all had some drone issues yesterday in San Francisco? So then all of our flights were delayed? And, um, I was on the tarmac in Los Angeles and the plane was just driving around. I think they wanted us to feel like we were going somewhere.
3:11 Laci Mosley? We wasn't going in the sky. I was like, at this point, bitch, hit the highway, cuz like, it ain't that long of a drive, like, let's just take the 747 out, Delta. I also had to give up my business class seat. Woe is me, woe is me. Oh, no, I can't stand y'all.
3:32 Laci Mosley? But they put me in a seat that had like a little curtain to business class? Cuz you know it's a quick flight, so it's not even no layback or nothing. But it was a little curtain that was right in front of my face that said, "You're poor."
3:51 Laci Mosley? And every time a flight attendant would walk past, it would blow in my face.
3:56 Laci Mosley? But I was like, you know what? I'm coming. I'm coming because I love you. Yes. Also, litmus test. How many of you guys walked past that table and didn't steal anything? Damn, y'all really didn't steal? Okay, the music was ominous at first. When y'all came in, it was a little scary. So I could see why you didn't want to steal nothing. Yeah, we had to talk to Cody. Shout out to Cody. And I was like, can you please put on some crime music? Because I think, I think the people are getting scared. I think they're gonna think I'm gonna walk out here real slowly and be like, grand rising.
4:35 Laci Mosley? Are you ready to change your life? This is a cult.
4:44 Laci Mosley? Not sure why it'd be in the call. I love that. We need, okay, you can be a lieutenant. We need eager participants. It's unpaid, volunteer. But you're gonna get so much out of it. So this is how we always start this show. Church always begins with devotion. So if you know it, help me out. Especially today, I'm struggling.
5:07 Laci Mosley? Scals comes rubber brie and frost. Scals come rubber brie and frost. Damn goddess. Thank you.
5:38 Laci Mosley? We have a beautiful show for you tonight. And I'm so excited to have one of San Francisco's favorite treats here. That makes him sound like a prostitute.
5:53 Laci Mosley? So you've probably seen him on Grand Crew, or you can see him again on the second season of Crowd Control, coming out on Dropout. Please give a very warm welcome to my co-host and captive for the evening, Jakiss Niall.
6:17 Speaker 05 Shit, I gotta sing, I gotta sing. Scam.
6:23 Speaker 05 What up, what up, what up, what up?
6:24 Laci Mosley? Hello.
6:26 Speaker 05 What's up, Lacey?
6:27 Laci Mosley? Oh my goodness, Jakiss.
6:29 Speaker 05 Lacey, how you doing?
6:31 Laci Mosley? Woo, that's a loaded question.
6:33 Speaker 05 That's a loaded question.
6:34 Laci Mosley? We here, though.
6:35 Speaker 05 Oh shit, we got chicken in the front?
6:36 Laci Mosley? Sometimes all you can do is show-
6:37 Speaker 05 We know the niggas was gonna have chicken in the front. Every nigga got chicken in the front, right here.
6:42 Laci Mosley? You can't say this in front of this many white people. Why would you say that?
6:46 Speaker 05 I know, we got two white people in front of the center.
6:47 Laci Mosley? Everybody loves chicken.
6:49 Speaker 05 Everybody loves chicken.
6:49 Laci Mosley? It's a universal food.
6:51 Speaker 05 We got salad from the second row back. I love it, I love it.
6:54 Laci Mosley? It's a universal food that everybody loves.
6:56 Speaker 05 You're right, you're right. I love chicken, I love chicken. How is it, how's the chicken? It's pretty good.
7:01 Laci Mosley? It's pretty good.
7:02 Speaker 05 Nah, you know, white people don't lie about chicken.
7:04 Laci Mosley? Y'all frying a bird up in here? Okay. Love to see it. So, I've switched up the show a little bit.
7:11 Speaker 05 Ooh.
7:12 Laci Mosley? Uh, one, this is actually a live recording, so...
7:19 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm. But we the only two getting paid, though. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.
7:25 Laci Mosley? Yeah, y'all not gonna, y'all not gonna get paid.
7:27 Speaker 05 I'm so sorry. Y'all can listen to yourselves, so y'all can listen.
7:30 Laci Mosley? You should've stole some shit outside.
7:34 Laci Mosley? You still got time? I said steal this. Who stole something? Hell yeah, hell yeah. See, see, those are my people. That was the litmus test. You should've stole something. Leave with something. I put up a whole sign that said steal this. Y'all didn't listen to me. So, now I'm starting the show instead of asking you, Jakiss, what your relationship with scams is.
8:03 Speaker 05 Cause I be admitting crimes on this show.
8:06 Laci Mosley? Yeah, yeah, you do be admitting crimes. I'm just gonna ask you, is it a scam? A scheme?
8:14 Speaker 05 Ooh.
8:15 Laci Mosley? Or a real thing?
8:16 Speaker 05 I love it, I love it.
8:17 Laci Mosley? I have three little questions for you. All right. So the first one, which honestly is way too poignant today. When an airline-
8:31 Laci Mosley? I wrote this show before I came here.
8:35 Speaker 05 I wanna, listen, Lacey, I love you. Lacey, me and Lacey have known each other for like over 10 years now.
8:40 Laci Mosley? Don't say that many years. I'm a baby. I have never known anyone for 10 years, not even my own mother.
8:47 Speaker 05 That's fair. I'm so sorry.
8:48 Laci Mosley? I am fresh out the womb. You don't see my placenta perm, please.
8:52 Speaker 05 I see it. I see it. We've known each other for 10 months now.
8:57 Speaker 05 And so, Lacey, you know I love you, but like you forgot one key part of that. Uh, Lacey missed her first flight.
9:05 Speaker 05 Cause we were supposed to be on the same flight out here. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm texting like, Lacey, where you at? Where you at? And you're like, baby, I missed my flight. And I'm like, alright, I'll see you in San Francisco.
9:15 Laci Mosley? Stop agreeing with each other. Stop agreeing with each other over there.
9:22 Laci Mosley? Yes, okay, we were in France and we had to take a really long Uber.
9:28 Speaker 05 So Lacey could have been here at the same time I was here today.
9:33 Laci Mosley? Why would you, why would you say that?
9:36 Speaker 05 I mean, you know, listen, before we had...
9:38 Laci Mosley? You over here talking in front of mixed company.
9:40 Speaker 05 I'm so sorry. You right. You right. We got a lot of black people in front. I'm not forgetting. I can't see the white people, which is the first time you've ever heard that.
9:47 Laci Mosley? What you...
9:48 Speaker 05 Man, like, nah, that nigga can't see us? Always see. I'm so sorry. Continue, continue. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, Lacey. The people had to know. They had to know.
9:58 Laci Mosley? Did they?
9:59 Speaker 05 They did. They did. They're endeared to you now. How many y'all missed flights?
10:03 Laci Mosley? Is it a scam? Is it a scheme? Or is it a real thing?
10:07 Speaker 05 Alright.
10:07 Laci Mosley? So, is it a scam, is it a scheme, is it a real thing?
10:10 Speaker 05 Yes.
10:11 Laci Mosley? Airlines offering you what I like to call flight books to give up your seat on an overbooked flight.
10:21 Speaker 05 The credits, the credits.
10:21 Laci Mosley? Is it a scam, scheme, or is it a real thing?
10:24 Speaker 05 I mean...
10:26 Laci Mosley? Now, I'll define this for you.
10:27 Speaker 05 Yeah, define it for me.
10:28 Laci Mosley? A scam is absolutely unequivocally like fraud.
10:33 Speaker 05 Right, right, right, right.
10:35 Laci Mosley? A scheme? Legal gray area.
10:39 Speaker 05 A little fraud, a little fraud, but you know, they can do it.
10:41 Laci Mosley? It feels bad, but it's, it's legal.
10:45 Speaker 05 Right, right, right.
10:45 Laci Mosley? You know, like, it's like the difference between a Ponzi scheme and an MLM. A Ponzi scheme...
10:51 Speaker 05 It's a scam. Uh, uh, uh, MLM.
10:55 Laci Mosley? Is a crime.
10:55 Speaker 05 If you do it right, you can get a Benz out of it.
10:57 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
10:57 Speaker 05 You know, you get a Mercedes out of it.
10:59 Laci Mosley? You sign up your friends and family to sell leggings, and eventually they mortgage their homes. And then a real thing is like, we're like, this is a legit thing.
11:08 Speaker 05 Okay.
11:08 Laci Mosley? Like, okay, so how do you feel about giving up your seats?
11:13 Speaker 05 I'll never, I'll never do it. I'll never do it. It's a, it's a scheme. I'm not gonna say it's a scam. I'm not gonna say it's a scam, cuz they, you know, they do be giving you the money, but you gotta give me more than like $250, nigga. A flight is $5,000 right now.
11:25 Laci Mosley? Yeah, they are.
11:26 Speaker 05 Gas costs.
11:27 Laci Mosley? Gases.
11:28 Speaker 05 Man, I was watching I Am Legend, uh, a couple of days ago, and they had like the gas, it was like six something. And I was like, remember when that was the apocalypse?
11:38 Speaker 05 That shit is crazy.
11:39 Laci Mosley? I've never cared more about the Strait of Hormuz in my life. I never even knew about that shit, and now I know everything about it. I'm like, they gotta find the mines that are under the water.
11:50 Speaker 05 Seriously.
11:52 Laci Mosley? We gotta do stuff.
11:53 Speaker 05 We gotta do stuff. So, so, so I need more than, they be offering, they be lowballing you. They be offering like $250 and shit.
11:58 Laci Mosley? Yeah, but then they don't rise it up. They'll be like, alright, 300, nobody?
12:02 Speaker 05 300?
12:03 Laci Mosley? 1,000, nobody?
12:05 Speaker 05 Mm-mm.
12:05 Laci Mosley? 6,000 AirBucks.
12:07 Speaker 05 I'll be like, give me, give me $1,250 plus a first-class seat.
12:13 Laci Mosley? Okay, well, see, here's the issue.
12:15 Speaker 05 Yeah.
12:16 Laci Mosley? When they make you give up your seats, one, okay, one thing that we all can know about this, if you actually want to not do what Jaki says, which is not engage. You can negotiate.
12:30 Speaker 05 Oh, you can negotiate?
12:31 Laci Mosley? Yes. So you can ask for what you want, whatever monetary amount that you want, but you can also ask for a hotel room.
12:40 Speaker 05 What?
12:41 Laci Mosley? Yes. And you can also make sure that your flight is rebooked instead of, cuz like, they'll throw your ass on standby.
12:50 Speaker 05 See, I feel like this-
12:51 Laci Mosley? And so you done gave up your seat, you done gave your ass away, and they, they throw you on standby, and you waiting in a damn line.
12:56 Speaker 05 You waiting forever. I feel like this wouldn't work for me. I feel like I'm not attractive enough for this to work for me. I feel like they'll be like, nigga, we said 350.
13:08 Speaker 05 There's other people that want this deal. Do you want it or not?
13:12 Speaker 05 I feel like they would shoo me away.
13:14 Laci Mosley? Well, you can do that.
13:16 Speaker 05 All right, I'll try.
13:16 Laci Mosley? And also, there are blackout dates, too. So typically, one, no matter how many air bucks they give you, you can't fly first.
13:27 Speaker 05 Oh, they put you on the standby?
13:29 Laci Mosley? They put you on the standby and then they gonna put you in coach and they gonna have the little thing.
13:33 Speaker 05 Then what's the money for?
13:35 Laci Mosley? They gonna have the little curtain blowing in your face. You're not finna be up there.
13:41 Speaker 05 You gonna try to use the bathroom and it's like, no, no, no. Use the poor bathroom back there.
13:48 Laci Mosley? And don't look at me, poor.
13:51 Speaker 05 That one don't have soap.
13:58 Laci Mosley? Damn, we can't even have soap.
13:59 Speaker 05 They don't even have soap, man. The fucking napkins be all bunched up. You gotta, you take one out, 18 motherfuckers come out.
14:12 Laci Mosley? Oh, so sad.
14:16 Speaker 05 That's the poor ones.
14:17 Laci Mosley? Okay.
14:18 Speaker 05 So what you saying is it's a scheme? It's a scheme.
14:21 Laci Mosley? It's a scheme.
14:21 Speaker 05 I thought, I feel like it's a scheme.
14:22 Laci Mosley? But you can protect yourself, but it is a scheme.
14:25 Speaker 05 So they lowball you first?
14:26 Laci Mosley? Yes, and then you gotta just hold out, just sit still. They'll keep rising that sky bucks number up.
14:33 Speaker 05 See, here's the problem with that, though. Like, real talk, they just gonna be, they'll just say no to you and somebody else gonna come and be like, I'll take it, right? So we need to work together.
14:42 Laci Mosley? Jacquis, you can't live in a scarcity mindset.
14:45 Speaker 05 You're right, you're right.
14:46 Laci Mosley? You got this.
14:48 Speaker 05 I need to get up and be like, I got this deal and if anybody come up, I got a bomb.
14:53 Laci Mosley? Now you gonna fight him?
14:56 Laci Mosley? You gonna fight him?
14:57 Speaker 05 I'm gonna fight, I'm gonna fight you.
14:58 Laci Mosley? Damn.
14:59 Speaker 05 I'm gonna fight you, we gonna be viral.
15:00 Laci Mosley? These are recession indicators. Good lord, now we, now we gonna fight for the Sky Bucks? We can't do that. For the Delta de blooms?
15:08 Speaker 05 For the Delta de blooms? I gotta fight for them Delta de blooms, man.
15:14 Laci Mosley? We don't need to do that.
15:15 Speaker 05 Times is tough, times is tough, Lacey.
15:16 Laci Mosley? Scam, scheme, or real thing?
15:20 Speaker 05 Uh huh.
15:21 Laci Mosley? TikTok shop?
15:22 Speaker 05 TikTok what? Shop?
15:24 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
15:25 Speaker 05 Scam?
15:26 Laci Mosley? I'm hearing scam, I'm hearing scam.
15:29 Speaker 05 Yeah, I feel like TikTok, I don't, I'm not on TikTok, but like I, I have bought shit on like Instagram and shit. I feel like it's probably the same thing.
15:35 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it is.
15:36 Speaker 05 I bought, I bought, I bought a, I bought something and it said like, I bought it during Black History Month and it said, "I am Black History," right? And I was like, oh, this is tight.
15:44 Laci Mosley? They got you with that?
15:45 Speaker 05 They got me. They got me. They got, it, it came, I was like, you're a Caucasian man.
15:51 Laci Mosley? My ancestors wild dreams head ass.
15:58 Laci Mosley? They got you with that?
15:59 Speaker 05 They got me, they got me. I was like, you know what? I am Black History.
16:04 Speaker 05 Thank you for telling me that on Instagram.
16:06 Laci Mosley? I'm Black and I'm proud.
16:07 Speaker 05 I'm Black and I'm proud.
16:07 Laci Mosley? You put it on a shirt, I'll buy the shirt.
16:09 Speaker 05 But that shirt was looking tight on the, on the, on the post. And it looked like it had like little leather shit. That shit was screen printed.
16:16 Laci Mosley? Leather on a shirt?
16:17 Speaker 05 It had, it had like the, the words was like little like fabric. The model was looking good.
16:23 Laci Mosley? So they, they hot ironed it on there?
16:24 Speaker 05 Yeah, it was, it was screen pressed on there.
16:26 Laci Mosley? Yeah, cuz I used to do that.
16:27 Speaker 05 It felt like a jersey.
16:29 Laci Mosley? Honestly, Jaquese, the reason I'm saying this is because I've done this scam myself. During the height of 2020, I was selling legalized black t-shirts.
16:42 Laci Mosley? And the money went to black.
16:45 Laci Mosley? I'm black, so how you gonna say the money can go to black?
16:49 Speaker 05 You know what? And that makes it a real thing. That makes it a real thing.
16:54 Laci Mosley? It's a real thing.
16:55 Speaker 05 That makes it a real thing.
16:56 Laci Mosley? Now, last, last, last one. Scam, scheme, or real thing?
17:01 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm.
17:04 Laci Mosley? Fathers.
17:13 Speaker 05 Well, I hate to be a stereotype.
17:18 Speaker 05 But I don't have one.
17:23 Speaker 05 So scam.
17:28 Speaker 05 Well, my, my, my father's so trifling, his family's trifling. My, my mama had me young.
17:33 Laci Mosley? Nobody knows their dad's side of the family. That's not a thing.
17:36 Speaker 05 I don't know, I don't know them niggas at all. They, they, my, my mom had me young. My mom had me when she was 16, so a little teen pregnancy. And so, you know.
17:45 Laci Mosley? They want those back now.
17:46 Speaker 05 They're, they're back?
17:47 Laci Mosley? They want them back.
17:48 Speaker 05 Oh, they want them?
17:49 Laci Mosley? The kids aren't getting pregnant anymore and they're mad about it. That's what they're saying on Fox News. They're like, why aren't the teens getting pregnant? We're like, isn't this good?
17:56 Speaker 05 We need the teens.
17:57 Laci Mosley? Isn't this a good thing?
17:59 Speaker 05 I'm not gonna, this is recorded, I'm not gonna say nothing on that. I got, I got a job. You make more money than I do, Lacey.
18:10 Speaker 05 But, but, but, and, and his mama, like, my, like, the dude who...
18:15 Laci Mosley? You just said his mama and that's your grandma?
18:17 Speaker 05 Fuck, fuck her.
18:20 Speaker 05 Fuck her. She took that nig-, he was 16. He didn't make the choice. His mama made the choice. Tell that nigga to raise his kids.
18:29 Speaker 05 His mama made the choice.
18:30 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
18:30 Speaker 05 So fuck that whole family.
18:33 Laci Mosley? I mean, honestly, I, I had to do this, this joke in front of my dad.
18:40 Speaker 05 Is your dad here?
18:41 Laci Mosley? No.
18:41 Speaker 05 Oh, okay.
18:42 Laci Mosley? My dad and my stepfather were both at my show in Texas.
18:46 Speaker 05 Love it.
18:47 Laci Mosley? And I had to be like, hey, y'all, don't worry about this. Y'all, y'all are cool. Y'all good. We love each other. I know, I know your phone number. I know where to find you.
18:56 Speaker 05 You know what? I'll say this. I'll, I'll say fatherhood is a scheme. Not necessarily a scam. I'll say it's a scheme, and here's what I'll say.
19:02 Laci Mosley? Okay.
19:03 Speaker 05 Because like, because for the most part, like, the person who was birthing the child, for the most part, you have to, even if you give up the kid, you have to go through the experience, right? The father ain't gotta do shit. And it can kill you, right? So you taking a burden on that pregnancy. The father ain't gotta do shit until the baby come and then you still probably barely doing anything. So if you are a good person, a good man, you take care of your responsibilities. So, you know, but there are some asshole men out there. So it's a scheme, not fully a scam.
19:33 Laci Mosley? And listen, we can't clap for men too much, sorry.
19:35 Speaker 05 No, no, no. Don't clap for us. Yeah, boo us, boo us.
19:39 Laci Mosley? We live in Los Angeles and the reason that I added this is because there were advertisements in Los Angeles. Take time to be a dad.
19:53 Laci Mosley? They have them in Oakland too? Damn.
19:57 Speaker 05 Damn, father's walking out like.
19:59 Laci Mosley? Why we gotta put up billboards to tell you to be a father?
20:03 Speaker 05 That's crazy, especially in 2026.
20:04 Laci Mosley? Who even thought of that? Who was like, you know what?
20:07 Speaker 05 That's wild.
20:07 Laci Mosley? How can we make them be fa- you know what? Let's take out an ad.
20:09 Speaker 05 Let's take out an ad.
20:10 Laci Mosley? Let's take out an ad and then they gonna be fathers once they see the ad. Cause they gonna be like, damn, I do have kids while I'm at this stoplight.
20:18 Speaker 05 Yeah.
20:19 Laci Mosley? I do, I do actually have kids.
20:22 Speaker 05 Also in 2026, like, cause my, you know, my dad skipped out in 1986. So he could just move down the street and you'll never see that nigga again. In 2026, we got social media, man, we can find you anywhere.
20:33 Laci Mosley? Right.
20:33 Speaker 05 We can find you anywhere.
20:35 Laci Mosley? You better take time to be a dad, we will locate you.
20:37 Speaker 05 Yeah, we can locate you now. We can locate you, we see your Instagram.
20:42 Laci Mosley? Right. We see you taking time in Cabo. We see you taking time at.
20:49 Speaker 05 We see you at the Lakers game.
20:51 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Eating chicken Bellagio, not being a dad.
20:54 Speaker 05 Not being a dad, eating that brown bread. You ain't even gonna be a brown dad.
20:58 Laci Mosley? Brown bread.
21:00 Speaker 05 Shameful.
21:01 Laci Mosley? And not being a dad.
21:05 Laci Mosley? And the last reason I wanna bring this up, cause you guys know that there's always gonna be like a little hippie propaganda.
21:13 Speaker 05 Okay.
21:14 Laci Mosley? That's why I'm dressed like Cher.
21:18 Laci Mosley? There are a lot of laws that are happening. Laws that are happening makes me sound like I'm illegally blonde and like I don't know what laws are. There are a lot of laws happening, guys, to us. But there is legislation. How about that?
21:32 Speaker 05 Legislation.
21:34 Laci Mosley? Yeah, there's a lot of legislation that's being enacted right now that is punitive towards women who decide to terminate their pregnancies. And the reason that I brought up fathers is because if we can't get an unjust law to not happen anymore, you know what we can do? Get men involved, because if men had to go to jail with them women, that law would not be here anymore. We went half on a baby, you inseminator. Serve this time with me, we both doing a bid.
22:16 Speaker 05 You're right. And you should get nine months less. They should take the extra nine months.
22:21 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
22:22 Speaker 05 Take the extra nine months. Matter of fact, take 18 months. Tell them Jacquis sent you.
22:30 Laci Mosley? Tell them Jacquis sent you.
22:31 Speaker 05 I gotta do nine more months in jail. Jacquis sent me.
22:35 Laci Mosley? Not you got the jail recommendation, good. Jacquis sent me, y'all. Oh, yeah, you good, you good.
22:41 Speaker 05 You good, man. Take cell block B.
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24:26 Laci Mosley? So, um, now let's get to the main event. Historic hoodwink.
24:30 Speaker 05 Yeah.
24:34 Speaker 05 Ah, we were rooting for you.
24:43 Laci Mosley? Wanna be on top?
24:46 Laci Mosley? Now, I know what you all are thinking. That this is gon- Yeah, black people always like to talk about hot ice cream. We'll get there. That really pissed y'all off as a community. Because every show that I've done, live shows, there's always black person like, "Hot ice cream?"
25:03 Laci Mosley? Because we need to take her to task for that one. No, um, so I know you're probably thinking that this is gonna be all about America's Next Top Model and her shenanigans. Tyra, Ms. Tyra Banks? She's been up to way more than you think.
25:23 Laci Mosley? We got MLMs, we got fake degrees. We got all types of shit.
25:31 Speaker 05 Damn.
25:32 Laci Mosley? And you know what? It's our fault. And you'll see as we walk through the show. You'll see, you'll see your suturkeys. You'll see as we walk through the show that it is our fault. Because we let that lady shenan.
25:47 Speaker 05 We did.
25:48 Laci Mosley? And she shenan, she shenan'd once and then shenan'd again. She's been, and that's our fault. Because we was like, yeah, girl, keep, keep, this is fine.
25:56 Speaker 05 It sound like she on her way to being the president of the United States.
25:59 Laci Mosley? Honestly, there's some very Trump, I'm not gonna do that. So, Tyra.
26:08 Speaker 05 You can't start this off with making us say aww. That's a cute picture.
26:13 Laci Mosley? I know. Look, Tyra create, yeah, look, look, I got paperwork.
26:17 Speaker 05 Look at that. Give it up for Lacey. I don't think y'all know how hard Lacey be working, how hard Lacey be.
26:24 Laci Mosley? Thank you.
26:25 Speaker 05 I know on the, on the podcast, you don't be seeing, but Lacey be, Lacey be on it. Lacey be on it. The rest of us, we just show up and just be talking bullshit. Lacey be working.
26:33 Laci Mosley? And I love you talking. Well, so, we know that Tyra created like problematic reality shows. And honestly, it was kind of a blueprint in that time. And she really pushed the envelope. She kept going. Um, America's Next Top Model, like, but she also created a ton of other predatory businesses that you probably haven't heard of. Tyra was the relatable supermodel, meaning she was black in the 90s. There was no, there were no black supermodels at that point. They were like, wow, relatable.
27:07 Speaker 05 You, you prove anybody can, if a, if a black woman can do it, anybody can do it.
27:12 Laci Mosley? This tall, skinny, black woman with a gorgeous body and face. If she could do it, anyone can, because she's a black still.
27:20 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, she's still black. Let me tell you, man.
27:23 Laci Mosley? How did she do it all?
27:23 Speaker 05 I don't know, it look like we got a, a, an older crowd here. So, so, most of y'all was alive during The Fresh Prince. Boy.
27:31 Speaker 05 The crush I had on Tyra Banks. And no-
27:34 Laci Mosley? Most of y'all were alive during Fresh Prince?
27:37 Speaker 05 Yeah.
27:38 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I think everyone was alive for that in here.
27:41 Speaker 05 Some people, I bet you, somebody here was born in 2000.
27:44 Laci Mosley? You said that like you were talking about, like, a talkie in the 20s.
27:47 Speaker 05 It felt like it. Shit. Who here was born after 2000? See? See?
27:57 Laci Mosley? We got one.
27:58 Speaker 05 We got one.
28:01 Laci Mosley? Hey, Cody, staff, get that 2000's baby. Don't let her leave, because we're gonna need to harvest her organs.
28:11 Laci Mosley? She ain't getting out of here.
28:14 Laci Mosley? How dare you bring your young ass to this show? So, yeah, she was a relatable supermodel in the 90s. And an A-list celebrity who repeatedly referred to her own five head. And she'd be the first to tell you that she was the first African-American model to appear solo on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
28:36 Speaker 05 Hell, yeah.
28:37 Laci Mosley? Now-
28:38 Speaker 05 Hell, yeah, you horny-ass motherfucker. Who said that?
28:41 Laci Mosley? Right.
28:41 Speaker 05 There you go.
28:42 Laci Mosley? It was like, "Tatais." But also, my favorite thing about her covering Sports Illustrated is that when she did have a television show, The Tyra Banks Show, she had more than one show. It was Black History Month.
28:56 Speaker 05 Wait, what?
28:57 Laci Mosley? And she honored herself as Black History.
29:03 Speaker 05 I love it.
29:04 Laci Mosley? She put this photo up and was like, "I'm Black History." Honestly, I love it.
29:10 Speaker 05 Listen.
29:10 Laci Mosley? I love it. She was. She was. Sometimes you gotta honor yourself. You gotta clap for yourself.
29:18 Speaker 05 She bought that shirt on IG, just like I did. It's like, "I am Black History."
29:26 Laci Mosley? So she, Tyra Lynn Banks, she was born in 1973 in Inglewood. Her dad, Don, was a computer consultant and her mother, Carolyn, was a medical photographer at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena. Damn, y'all know about the Jet Propulsion Laboratory?
29:46 Speaker 05 My man said, "Hell yeah."
29:48 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
29:49 Speaker 05 I ain't never heard of that shit in my life. What is that?
29:52 Laci Mosley? I have never heard those words together in a sentence. Damn, y'all some nerds out here. Okay, San Francisco.
29:59 Speaker 05 You got that tech money.
30:01 Laci Mosley? Okay, San Francisco. Y'all got y'all turtlenecks on tonight, okay, Steve Jobs?
30:07 Speaker 05 Uh huh. The person who said, "Hell yeah," do got a suit on.
30:10 Laci Mosley? Right. Wait, shit, you do got a suit on, damn.
30:19 Laci Mosley? You jobbing your work or you working your job? Amen. You know what I like there? You came with your black queen and you put your suit on and we like that.
30:29 Speaker 05 There we go, there we go. Y'all know each other?
30:38 Speaker 05 Yeah, she leaning too close, y'all know each other. Y'all know each other.
30:42 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I think he know that lady real bad. I think they... Look at that hand placement on that thigh. He rubbing on that thigh like he know that thigh. He done been all up and through that thigh. Sorry, girl, I ain't trying to put you out there like that.
30:56 Laci Mosley? So Don and Carolyn, these are Tyra's parents. They divorced when Tyra was six and going to a private elementary school. Her dad moved nearby and the divorce was amicable. But she did face some challenges when she was young because at age nine, she got warts on her hand.
31:18 Speaker 05 She got warts on her hand?
31:19 Laci Mosley? Mm-hmm. And the kids at school were calling her Froggy.
31:26 Speaker 05 Damn, she was being called five head and froggy? That shit is diabolical.
31:31 Laci Mosley? That's terrible.
31:32 Speaker 05 That's so sad.
31:33 Laci Mosley? And of course, she was being bullied for being so tall and thin.
31:42 Laci Mosley? According to her book, she would make herself chocolate peanut butter milkshakes every night before bed.
31:48 Speaker 05 Damn, she had enough money to make chocolate milkshakes? Man, I don't feel sorry for her ass no more.
31:54 Laci Mosley? And in a divorced household.
31:55 Speaker 05 Yeah, you got two incomes.
31:57 Laci Mosley? And you know, this is how you know that she was really having white lady problems because you know, white kids divorce be the hardest thing that they ever went through.
32:05 Speaker 05 That's the hardest thing they ever? Try not having a father.
32:08 Laci Mosley? They're like, oh my god, my parents, they're separated.
32:13 Speaker 05 My parents don't love each other anymore.
32:16 Laci Mosley? They're divorced.
32:17 Speaker 05 My dad walked out on my mama when she was pregnant.
32:22 Laci Mosley? My parents were never together.
32:26 Laci Mosley? I'm the oops baby.
32:27 Speaker 05 You the oops. We are mistakes.
32:29 Laci Mosley? It's a miracle.
32:30 Speaker 05 There you go.
32:31 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I actually feel really good about being an accident because I'm like, whoopee, look at me, your best kid.
32:40 Laci Mosley? So, obviously, at this point, the only other option that she had was to look for a modeling agency.
32:50 Laci Mosley? That's all she could do.
32:51 Speaker 05 That's all she could do.
32:52 Laci Mosley? She signed with LA Models in 1989 when she was 16. Seventeen Magazine contacted Los Angeles agencies looking for, this feels gross to say, teen girls for a photo shoot. And that's how she ended up with her first magazine shoot.
33:09 Speaker 05 That's with Seventeen Magazine.
33:11 Laci Mosley? Now, after that, a French modeling agency got in touch with her. The rest is history, obviously. She's a very successful model. And her mother, who I think is probably a little more problematic than we think, because like, first of all, why are you making your baby employed? Your baby's 16 and you gonna put her in one of the most exploitive industries in the world? Where your whole job is to be a coat hanger and be naked a lot?
33:41 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's tough.
33:42 Laci Mosley? And you a baby?
33:44 Speaker 05 That's tough.
33:45 Laci Mosley? You put your little hot baby in this position?
33:48 Speaker 05 That's tough. That's tough. She had to afford them milkshakes.
33:52 Laci Mosley? So careless.
33:55 Speaker 05 She had to pour them milkshakes.
33:56 Laci Mosley? She had to pour them milkshakes.
33:57 Speaker 05 She had to pour them milkshakes somehow.
33:58 Laci Mosley? It was like, Tyra, we eating us out of house and home with these milkshakes.
34:01 Speaker 05 You eating us out of house and home, man.
34:02 Laci Mosley? Get your ass to work on this runway.
34:04 Speaker 05 You know how much chocolate milk costs in 1988?
34:10 Laci Mosley? The straighter Hormuz has been moving chocolate milk for years.
34:18 Laci Mosley? So Carolyn, her mother, Tyra's mother, she took Tyra's portfolio photos and they branded them. So there was Tyra innocent.
34:31 Speaker 05 Oh, okay, alright. I love that innocent look.
34:36 Laci Mosley? Tyra sophisticated.
34:38 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm, cross the leg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm commentating this for people who are just gonna listen to the podcast.
34:46 Laci Mosley? Tyra come hither.
34:48 Speaker 05 Yeah, legs open, knee in between the leg, or elbow in between the legs. Knee in between the legs. That's what I'm trying to do tonight. Hit my DMs, hit my DMs.
35:02 Laci Mosley? Not hit my DMs.
35:07 Laci Mosley? So, you know, they was really working on her career, right? For the fall and winter, she like walked in 25 shows in six days.
35:18 Speaker 05 Wow.
35:18 Laci Mosley? Why you making that baby walk so much?
35:20 Speaker 05 That's a lot. That's a lot.
35:22 Laci Mosley? But also though, I kinda get it.
35:24 Speaker 05 Yeah?
35:25 Laci Mosley? Back to my airport trauma, just for a moment.
35:30 Laci Mosley? I was sitting in, God, this doesn't make me sound good.
35:35 Speaker 05 Nah, say it.
35:35 Laci Mosley? Sitting in the lounge.
35:38 Speaker 05 Yeah?
35:38 Laci Mosley? And, yeah, my life is hard.
35:43 Laci Mosley? And there were these really comfortable looking egg chairs. And everyone who was sitting in them was an unemployed baby.
35:55 Speaker 05 Yeah, get up out of them.
35:56 Laci Mosley? And I was like, you a baby?
35:59 Speaker 05 Yeah.
35:59 Laci Mosley? Sit on the floor.
36:01 Speaker 05 Sit on the floor.
36:02 Laci Mosley? I'm old.
36:03 Speaker 05 Yeah.
36:03 Laci Mosley? I deserve the egg chair that you swinging around in. You get your unemployed ass on the floor. Sit down.
36:10 Speaker 05 Yeah.
36:12 Speaker 05 It's like a cat, man. Like, a cat can lay anywhere. You can lay anywhere.
36:15 Laci Mosley? You can lay anywhere.
36:16 Speaker 05 Move up off the comfortable spots.
36:17 Laci Mosley? You are literally somebody's unemployed roommate. Why are we, like, why are you taking up space?
36:24 Speaker 05 Y'all know what lumbar mean? Get up off that comfortable seat.
36:26 Laci Mosley? Right, you ain't even heard about no lumbar.
36:28 Speaker 05 Get the fuck up off that comfortable seat. Watch out, get up.
36:30 Laci Mosley? You don't know about a disc in a back?
36:32 Speaker 05 Yeah, I'm with you.
36:34 Laci Mosley? You don't even know your back got discs up in it.
36:36 Speaker 05 I'm with you, man. Hey, fuck them kids.
36:38 Laci Mosley? Thank you.
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38:23 Laci Mosley? So let's get to something that I find quite interesting about Tyra's personality. Honestly, I love, we could learn from her. We really can. I love the audacity, truly. So Tyra booked the Michael Jackson video, Black or White.
38:41 Speaker 05 Oh, oh, yeah, she was in that.
38:42 Laci Mosley? And then, you know, maybe that inspired her because later she gonna make people black and white.
38:49 Laci Mosley? Don't even, well, worry about it. We'll get there. We'll get there.
38:54 Laci Mosley? But in the Michael Jackson video, so this is when now I'm gonna sound like you, like the talkies. Y'all remember Fresh Prince? So this technology at the time for the Michael Jackson, Black or White video was actually really transformative. There wasn't no AI, wasn't no like you, like they had to actually configure this with computers. So the whole thing was that you're supposed to come in and the song is like, it's black, it's white. It's duh, duh, duh, duh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you're supposed to do. That's the choreography. This was Tyra did.
39:42 Laci Mosley? That's the picture you wanted.
39:43 Speaker 05 That's what I'm waiting for right there.
39:45 Laci Mosley? Why would she do that?
39:49 Speaker 05 Tyra was like, y'all gonna remember me in this video. And they had to stay on her longer too, because they were like, we can't transition from this.
39:55 Laci Mosley? They had to put her in a different place because they could not transition because she was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like ma'am, and she showed up late, showed up late and didn't do the job.
40:08 Speaker 05 Imagine showing up late to a Michael Jackson video. That's wild.
40:13 Laci Mosley? Kind of a flex.
40:14 Speaker 05 That's flexing.
40:15 Laci Mosley? Kind of a flex to show up late to a Michael Jackson video and also not follow instructions.
40:21 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's crazy.
40:24 Laci Mosley? Listen, I would follow instructions. Y'all know, if you know me, if you've read my book, or maybe you steal it later.
40:31 Laci Mosley? Seven minutes late is my sweet spot. Like, I can be seven minutes late and nobody's gonna be mad. Cause five minutes ain't enough. I need a bed rod a little longer.
40:42 Speaker 05 You need, you need them two extra minutes.
40:44 Laci Mosley? Ten minutes is too much.
40:45 Speaker 05 It is.
40:46 Laci Mosley? Cause now they looking at the watch and they like, where this bitch at? It's been ten minutes.
40:49 Speaker 05 Yeah.
40:50 Laci Mosley? That's too solid of a number. Seven?
40:52 Speaker 05 Ain't nobody thinking about that.
40:54 Laci Mosley? It's nebulous.
40:55 Speaker 05 Alright.
40:55 Laci Mosley? Nobody knows. So, Tyra, this her acting era.
40:59 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm.
41:00 Laci Mosley? She was in a John Singleton movie, Higher Learning. And she was really like, kinda eating it up.
41:06 Speaker 05 She was doing, she was in one of my favorite movies of all time, Loving Basketball. Uh, she was, she was Omar Epps wife that, you know, and he fucked her over and left her.
41:18 Laci Mosley? That he left her after he played ball for his heart with Sanaa.
41:23 Speaker 05 Yeah, he was an all-star in Loving Basketball.
41:25 Laci Mosley? Honestly, I'm not staying with you if you dunk on my ass, nigga. Like, what you mean, play me for my heart and then you dunk on me? Like, so you don't love me?
41:35 Speaker 05 You can't, like, come on, bro, you could've laid it up.
41:38 Laci Mosley? I would've left the.
41:39 Speaker 05 You ain't gotta touch the rim.
41:41 Laci Mosley? You ain't have to touch the rim.
41:42 Speaker 05 You ain't gotta touch the fucking rim.
41:43 Laci Mosley? That's crazy.
41:44 Speaker 05 Come on now.
41:45 Laci Mosley? I'm leaving.
41:46 Speaker 05 Come on now.
41:47 Laci Mosley? I would've walked off the goddamn court.
41:50 Speaker 05 You could've did a skyhook or something.
41:51 Laci Mosley? Sanaa, have some respect for yourself. You gonna let this nigga dunk on you and then you still love him? And then have his baby? Absolutely not.
41:59 Speaker 05 You need to posterize her ass. Crazy.
42:02 Laci Mosley? Damn.
42:02 Speaker 05 Crazy.
42:03 Laci Mosley? I mean, she did get her.
42:04 Speaker 05 Love that movie. Love it. I love that movie.
42:07 Laci Mosley? So, yeah, so Tyra was the first black person on the cover of GQ.
42:13 Speaker 05 Oh, that's dope.
42:15 Laci Mosley? Yes.
42:16 Speaker 05 Hell yeah.
42:16 Laci Mosley? And she did a Nike Super Bowl ad with Chris Rock and a Got Milk ad. So, remember when they used to convince celebrities to paint their upper lip white?
42:32 Laci Mosley? So that you could do propaganda for...
42:35 Speaker 05 Milk?
42:37 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
42:37 Speaker 05 Man, I got milk is the best lying ass campaign. That shit don't help your bones. Have y'all heard this shit? Milk don't help your bones and don't do nothing for your bones. Got them commercials had us drinking fucking milk. For not, milk is-
42:53 Laci Mosley? It's another animal's milk. It's not even our milk.
42:56 Speaker 05 It's fucking us up. We up here boo booing and shit. It's fucking us up. It's fucking us up. They be like, you better drink that for your bones. And we on the toilet like, "My bones are strong." "My bones are strong." Just shit in your life away.
43:13 Speaker 05 I'm having that lying ass campaign, man. Lying.
43:20 Laci Mosley? "My bones are strong." I'm crazy. That's really what it was. But yeah, so she did this campaign. She's extremely successful. I love this lady. This is a love letter. I know that it seems like an attack.
43:36 Laci Mosley? But it is a love letter.
43:38 Speaker 05 I love that you did that. I didn't even see. You actually put, "No evidence that drinking milk makes your bones strong."
43:47 Laci Mosley? Yeah, we're on the same page. Sorry you had to spend that much time on the toilet to realize.
43:55 Laci Mosley? So...
43:59 Laci Mosley? Alright, let's get into America's Next Top Model. We won't live here long. Put my papers together. I'mma get a binder next time, y'all. It'll be cute. Right now, we got loose leaf sheets.
44:10 Speaker 05 You know, it's so- The economy is crazy right now.
44:15 Laci Mosley? I can't afford no binder.
44:17 Speaker 05 We can't afford binders no more. We can't afford binders no more.
44:19 Laci Mosley? Binder's too expensive, y'all. The economy is bad.
44:23 Speaker 05 You gotta hole punch them. That's too much.
44:25 Laci Mosley? Way too much. Have you seen a hole punch in a while?
44:30 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah.
44:30 Laci Mosley? Oh, 'cause this is San Francisco.
44:32 Speaker 05 I was gonna say, yeah.
44:33 Laci Mosley? Y'all be up in y'all jobs. Job of y'all love. Been loving y'all job. I ain't seen a hole punch in a minute.
44:41 Speaker 05 I ain't seen a hole puncher in a minute.
44:43 Laci Mosley? Damn.
44:43 Speaker 05 Yeah.
44:44 Laci Mosley? We missing out.
44:45 Speaker 05 We living in a different, we live in a different place.
44:47 Laci Mosley? We live in a different place. Fuck. Alright, damn. Okay, so, um, Tyra, she incorporated herself, and this is how you know it's a scam. It's too many different name changes and companies, okay? Tyra incorporated herself as Ty Girl Corporation, which became Ta Ta Baby Productions. Then, Bankable Productions. And Ta Ta Baby was the one that was producing America's Next Top Model, which ran from 2003 to 2015, and then again in 2018,
45:28 Laci Mosley? which had a brief period where it was hosted by Rita Ora. Now, here's my thing about Rita Ora. I love her energy because I feel like Rita Ora is somebody who just stays ready. She may not be the main attraction, but maybe, is she gonna be in a gown with a full B waiting in the parking lot in case somebody don't show up? She gonna be there. So, yeah, we're gonna watch this briefly. You already know what it is.
46:05 Speaker 03 This is serious to these girls. This should be serious to you.
46:08 Speaker 06 Looks can be deceiving. I'm hurt. I am. But I can't change it, Tyra. I've been... Yes, you can.
46:17 Speaker 03 You can't change what?
46:18 Speaker 06 I'm sick of crying about stuff that I cannot change. I'm sick of being disappointed. I'm sick of all of it. I'm not...
46:24 Speaker 03 You're sick of being disappointed, Tiffany?
46:26 Speaker 06 Obviously, I am.
46:27 Speaker 03 No, you're not. If you were sick of being disappointed, you would stand up and you would take control of your destiny. Do you know that you had a possibility to win? Do you know that all of America is rooting for you? Do you know that? And then you come in here and you treat this like a joke? You come in here and look at that and say, "I can't read that." You read 10 times better than half of those girls over there. She did.
46:45 Laci Mosley? She didn't.
46:46 Speaker 03 And you come in here with the defeatist attitude.
46:48 Speaker 06 I don't have a bad attitude. Maybe I am angry inside. I've been through stuff, so I'm angry.
46:52 Speaker 03 Yes, but it's not... This is not... Be quiet, Tiffany. Be quiet!
46:56 Speaker 06 I'm on to you.
46:57 Speaker 03 Stop it!
47:01 Speaker 06 I have never in my life yelled at a girl like this. When my mother yelled at this, it's because she loved me. I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. How dare you? Learn something from this. When you go to bed at night, you lay there and you take responsibility for yourself. Because nobody's gonna take responsibility for you.
47:22 Speaker 05 Crazy.
47:25 Speaker 05 Crazy. Crazy.
47:29 Laci Mosley? Tyra, Tyra, you need to learn something from this.
47:33 Speaker 05 Also, when she's like, "When my mama yelled at me like this, that means she loved me?" No, it didn't.
47:38 Laci Mosley? I don't know. Sometimes your mama be yelling at you and it feel like love.
47:42 Speaker 05 I don't feel like love. That's what that lie they tell. That's that same lie the milk people told us.
47:46 Laci Mosley? Okay, but-
47:46 Speaker 05 My mama was spanking me and that ain't love.
47:49 Laci Mosley? Not the milk people told us.
47:51 Speaker 05 This shit hurts.
47:53 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it hurts. But then you remember it different. It hurts less after. But also, Tyra, doesn't that speech resonate somewhere in your head and your heart?
48:08 Speaker 05 Oh, yes.
48:08 Laci Mosley? Don't you remember it? Isn't it iconic?
48:11 Speaker 05 I didn't even watch Next Stop Model.
48:12 Laci Mosley? Wasn't she kind of yelling at us as a collective family?
48:15 Speaker 05 She was. That was so big.
48:17 Laci Mosley? Sometimes you need to get up off your ass and everybody rooting for you. We all rooting for you. Get your bitch ass up and go do your job.
48:27 Laci Mosley? Shit, I got my bitch ass up today.
48:29 Speaker 05 You did. And you late, but you got up.
48:37 Speaker 05 You got up, though. You got up. You here. We here. We here together. We made it.
48:43 Laci Mosley? Now, why?
48:43 Speaker 05 We in San Francisco.
48:45 Laci Mosley? See, this is why I can't, this is why I can't with my friends and family because you just go, wow. So anyways, she also created new ways of exploiting vulnerable young women for reality television purposes without sometimes giving winners money that they were promised.
49:08 Speaker 05 Wait, what's this picture on the screen?
49:12 Laci Mosley? Oh yeah, we gonna get to that.
49:14 Speaker 05 Cause I'm, I'm looking at this shit and I'm like, this is wild.
49:18 Laci Mosley? This is when she had these young women switch ethnicities.
49:23 Speaker 05 No.
49:25 Laci Mosley? For a photo shoot in 2005. And don't worry guys, she didn't learn her lesson. She did it again in 2009.
49:31 Speaker 05 No.
49:33 Laci Mosley? And I don't know why she didn't realize blackface wasn't a good idea in 2009. I feel like I knew that in 2009. But that's okay. So the show, the show, walk with me. The show also featured a homeless themed photo shoot. And, in which real life homeless people, unhoused people were used as extras.
50:00 Speaker 05 No. Well, did they get paid?
50:02 Laci Mosley? To really make it authentic.
50:05 Speaker 05 I hope they paid them and.
50:06 Laci Mosley? And I don't know, because she was only giving them girls forty dollars a day.
50:11 Speaker 05 Oh.
50:12 Laci Mosley? Yeah. And that's, that's no per diem either. I know this San Francisco, y'all know about some per diem.
50:17 Speaker 05 Yeah, I know per diem.
50:18 Laci Mosley? Y'all always going on work trips, don't ya?
50:21 Speaker 05 Uh huh.
50:22 Laci Mosley? Y'all all got SkyMiles numbers, don't ya? Reward programs.
50:28 Speaker 05 Forty dollars a day?
50:29 Laci Mosley? Forty dollars a day and no food. You got to pay for your own food.
50:34 Speaker 05 You got to pay for your own food?
50:35 Laci Mosley? Yeah. So yeah, she wasn't giving the girls nothing. She was giving them forty dollars a day and no food or water. Honestly, just almost as bad as baddies where they give them tequila and, and, and half a Dorito and make them fight. It's kinda, it's kinda rough. So the Cycle 17 winner Angela Preston sued Tyra in 2014 for three million dollars for breach of contract, infliction of emotional distress.
51:05 Speaker 05 Yup.
51:06 Laci Mosley? And failure to provide meal and rest breaks during filming. Damn, she wouldn't even let these girls take a nap. Shit.
51:16 Speaker 05 Also, this making me, this making me like reconsider what I should be asking for. Three million dollars for no food and no rest? We don't get paid that much?
51:25 Speaker 05 For TV? For TV? For TV and shit.
51:28 Laci Mosley? And we don't be getting no food at rest sometimes.
51:31 Speaker 05 They be having us all set all damn day.
51:33 Laci Mosley? They're not gonna sympathize with us. We don't know what a three hole punch is.
51:36 Speaker 05 That's alright, we ain't sympathizing, yeah.
51:38 Laci Mosley? They're like, "You're out of touch."
51:39 Speaker 05 Yeah.
51:40 Laci Mosley? We're like, "No, we need $3 million right now." And everybody's like, "No."
51:46 Speaker 05 That's alright, we got a bunch of engineers in the crowd or some tech people.
51:49 Laci Mosley? Right. This lady Angela, the reason that I bring this up is because how it's covered in the news, but after I did some deep dives.
51:59 Laci Mosley? So, it was covered that Angela won America's Next Top Model, and then breached her contract and they reshot the episode to let the other girl win instead of her. What actually happened was, is that Tyra and Tyra Banks and Bankable and whatever the fuck she calling them companies, found out that Angela had been sex trafficked. Yes, and so they were calling her an escort, but I don't really think that's what it was, at least from her accounts. So, they said that she couldn't be America's Next Top Model because...
52:43 Speaker 05 She was trafficked? What?
52:45 Laci Mosley? Yeah. No, that's it.
52:48 Speaker 05 That's it?
52:49 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
52:49 Speaker 05 Damn. Damn, Tyra?
52:52 Laci Mosley? I know.
52:53 Speaker 05 Damn, Tyra?
52:54 Laci Mosley? I know, I know.
52:55 Speaker 05 Damn, Tyra about to move down in this whole damn club.
52:59 Speaker 05 That shit is crazy.
53:00 Laci Mosley? Tyra, please. Was America's Next Top Model the most harmful show of the 2000s? No, it was probably The Swan.
53:09 Laci Mosley? Or that Lord of the Flies show that put 40 kids in an abandoned ghost town in New Mexico for six weeks?
53:16 Speaker 05 I didn't see this. I didn't see this.
53:18 Laci Mosley? I didn't see that one either, but I was horrified. Like, what?
53:24 Laci Mosley? Again, why y'all letting y'all babies go employ? So, at the same time that America's Next Top Model was happening, Tyra was hosting the Tyra Banks Show, right? Where she produced memorable episodes, like... Oh shit, yeah, she tried to sing. I'm actually not even gonna play this. It's not worth it.
53:47 Laci Mosley? Y'all wanna hear Shake Your Body, Body?
53:51 Speaker 05 I ain't never heard it. I wanna hear it. I wanna hear it. Let's go, Tyra.
53:55 Laci Mosley? I love this lady. Okay. Shake your body, body. Move your body, body. Shake your body, body. Shake your body, body.
54:04 Laci Mosley? So the... But I'll show ya.
54:08 Speaker 05 I'm mesmerized right now. I'm mesmerized. I ain't never seen this in my life.
54:16 Laci Mosley? You ain't never seen Shake Your Body, Body? Y'all ain't seen Shake Your Body, Body?
54:21 Speaker 05 Lacey was trying to stop that for the last 15 seconds. And Tyra was like, "Not today."
54:28 Laci Mosley? She's like, "I'm not finished."
54:31 Laci Mosley? So, um, now, remember when I said that Tyra Banks is all your fault? We're gonna get there now.
54:38 Speaker 05 Damn.
54:39 Laci Mosley? So, um, remember Tyra had her Tyra Banks TV show?
54:44 Speaker 05 The talk show, right?
54:45 Laci Mosley? Mm-hmm.
54:45 Speaker 05 Yeah.
54:47 Laci Mosley? So she had memorable episodes, like...
54:50 Speaker 05 There we go.
54:51 Laci Mosley? Tyra pretends to be fat.
54:56 Speaker 05 Yep.
54:58 Speaker 05 Yep, yep, yep.
54:59 Laci Mosley? Tyra... Fat people exist.
55:04 Speaker 05 Yep.
55:05 Laci Mosley? And they're beautiful, and they're doing just fine. And I don't think that they need you to put on a suit.
55:14 Speaker 05 Well, you remember she started on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air? You remember that one episode where Will Smith had to put on a fat suit?
55:20 Laci Mosley? Oh, my God.
55:21 Speaker 05 You remember that episode?
55:23 Laci Mosley? There's, there's nothing wrong with being fat.
55:25 Speaker 05 Oh, no, I know that. I'm just saying that's where she got the idea from, probably.
55:28 Laci Mosley? Damn, she probably did.
55:30 Speaker 05 She probably was like, "I remember Will did this."
55:32 Laci Mosley? She went to the black and white music video and was like, "I'm gonna make people black and white."
55:35 Speaker 05 Uh-huh.
55:35 Laci Mosley? And then she...
55:36 Speaker 05 She just pulling.
55:37 Laci Mosley? Then she went to the, to Fresh Prince.
55:39 Speaker 05 Fresh Prince was like, "I'm gonna put on a fat suit." She just pulling from all her experiences.
55:44 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Okay, because, you know... If it wasn't enough the first time, she had to pretend to be homeless again. Now, I think she overshot this one.
55:57 Speaker 05 Oh, Tyra, baby.
55:58 Laci Mosley? It's giving like, she was trying to give us like, refugee?
56:03 Speaker 05 I know. Yeah, she, yeah.
56:07 Laci Mosley? Like, what war-torn country are you in? I mean, America is a war-torn country.
56:12 Speaker 05 Yeah, America is, almost.
56:14 Laci Mosley? You could very much just be here. Actually, I take it back. That's xenophobic. This is actually accurate.
56:21 Speaker 05 Yeah.
56:22 Laci Mosley? Okay?
56:22 Speaker 05 Yeah.
56:23 Laci Mosley? But she really was selling it with the face and the sadness. I think she had somebody put dirt on her face or something.
56:29 Speaker 05 Also, why she got some in her hair? Like, on how's people let their hair out? Ain't got it, like, I gotta cover my hair.
56:37 Laci Mosley? No, they don't, Jekes. That's how everyone knows you're homeless right now. No, I'm kidding. No, it's, yeah, this, I don't know what she was thinking. But don't worry, guys. Because then Tyra needs to pretend to have rabies.
56:57 Laci Mosley? She, you know. You know how you need to be pretending to have rabies sometimes? You know how you be needing to do that?
57:05 Laci Mosley? And you know why I said that this is our fault?
57:08 Speaker 05 I bet this shit got 80 million views.
57:13 Laci Mosley? One, two Emmys.
57:14 Speaker 05 Yep. Yep.
57:18 Speaker 05 Yep.
57:18 Laci Mosley? This is our fault. We encouraged this.
57:22 Speaker 05 We watched this and was like, riveting.
57:27 Speaker 05 I've never seen a person with rabies. Give me more.
57:33 Laci Mosley? Honestly, it's the best decision out of the three.
57:38 Speaker 05 I mean, yeah.
57:39 Laci Mosley? It is rabies.
57:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
57:42 Laci Mosley? The other one is cosplaying people who are in dire straits. The other one is like, what are you doing, girl? And then this.
57:50 Speaker 05 I mean, I'm gonna be real. The little video you.
57:55 Speaker 05 The video you guys show.
57:56 Laci Mosley? Don't look at that sexually, Jekes.
57:58 Speaker 05 I was about to say, like.
58:02 Laci Mosley? I'm about to say like, you know. Don't look at that sexually. I mean, you know, you la la spit there, you know. I don't wild you up with the Shake Your Body Body video. You know what I'm saying? Now you don't know how to act. I'm just saying, you can do a lot with that. Let's get into the book. Because I'm gonna be wrapping this up in a moment.
58:23 Speaker 05 Model Land.
58:24 Laci Mosley? Model Land.
58:25 Speaker 05 She got books too?
58:26 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
58:27 Speaker 05 Come on, Tyra.
58:28 Laci Mosley? Now, these were her YA novels. Well, it was supposed to be more than one. She was supposed to be the J.K. Rowling of modeling turns of writers.
58:39 Speaker 05 Cool.
58:40 Laci Mosley? But except for she wasn't gonna be no turf like fucking J.K. Rowling.
58:43 Speaker 05 Yeah, fuck J.K. Rowling.
58:45 Laci Mosley? Fuck J.K. Rowling. One thing, thank you.
58:50 Laci Mosley? And one thing I will say about motherfucking Tyra Banks is, look, she might cause you emotional distress and harm, but she ain't gonna call you out of your pronouns, they a bitch, she a bitch, he a bitch.
59:07 Laci Mosley? We ain't misgendering none of you bitches.
59:13 Speaker 05 The hero we need.
59:17 Speaker 05 It's the hero we need right there.
59:21 Laci Mosley? The hero we need is crazy.
59:25 Laci Mosley? But yeah, so she had these books and I'm telling you guys, I'm telling you this is not assault because I still love this lady. Somehow, this book landed in my hands in middle school.
59:36 Speaker 05 You had this book?
59:38 Laci Mosley? I didn't buy it, but it was being passed around in the cafeteria. And I learned about Tookie. Tookie who had one green eye and one blue one.
59:49 Speaker 05 Uh huh, Tookie. That's a black ass name.
59:51 Laci Mosley? Yeah, Tookie De La Crim.
59:53 Speaker 05 Tookie De La Crim?
59:55 Laci Mosley? That's a name, right, for a character in a book?
59:57 Speaker 05 You could tell. You could tell that was Tyra's idea. The editor was like, can we change this name, please? And it's like, no.
1:00:04 Laci Mosley? No, it's Tookie De La Crim.
1:00:05 Speaker 05 It's Tookie De La Crim. You can't change it. Don't change it.
1:00:10 Laci Mosley? Like, it feels like she did like, like if you were to have, like, remember those BuzzFeed tests and stuff?
1:00:16 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:00:16 Laci Mosley? Like, if they had one that was just like, "What's your RuPaul's Drag name?"
1:00:20 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:00:21 Laci Mosley? And you just put in your initials and they're like, "Tookie Delacrim, that's you."
1:00:26 Speaker 05 What was your first pet's name and the last thing you ate? Tookie Delacrim?
1:00:32 Laci Mosley? Tookie Delacrim, that's you. So she, Tookie was unexpectedly invited to this exclusive magical model school called Model Land, where she met an albino girl.
1:00:50 Speaker 05 Can we say that still?
1:00:51 Laci Mosley? She, she-
1:00:52 Speaker 05 Is albino, is that okay to still say? I don't know, man, we grew up in a different time. We used to be able to say a lot of shit we can't say no more. I don't know.
1:01:11 Laci Mosley? She also met a plus-size girl and she also met a short girl.
1:01:21 Speaker 05 The worst, the worst infraction of all.
1:01:28 Laci Mosley? And she learned about friendship, courage-
1:01:31 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:01:31 Laci Mosley? -and self-belief to become one of the seven intoxibellas. Those are the sexy people.
1:01:40 Laci Mosley? Reviews called the book-
1:01:44 Speaker 05 This, it had to be terrible.
1:01:51 Laci Mosley? Reviews called the book, um, "Overlong."
1:01:56 Speaker 05 I ain't making no worse for this book. This book is overlong. I, I've never heard that word in my life.
1:02:04 Laci Mosley? We couldn't even escape her music video.
1:02:06 Speaker 05 That's true.
1:02:07 Laci Mosley? I was trying to click it, she was like, "No, I'm not done."
1:02:09 Speaker 05 Nope.
1:02:11 Laci Mosley? They also called it, um, warped and exhausting.
1:02:17 Speaker 05 Damn. Can you imagine being exhausted by a book that you can put down?
1:02:24 Speaker 05 Like, you can put the shit down, you be like, "Whew, it's too much." You just put it down. And you still exhausted?
1:02:31 Laci Mosley? They're like, "No, I gotta, I gotta keep going."
1:02:35 Laci Mosley? Okay. In this economy, you gotta keep reading the book.
1:02:38 Speaker 05 You gotta keep reading this book. You try to close it and just open back up.
1:02:42 Laci Mosley? But we gotta just keep reading the book.
1:02:44 Speaker 05 It's like at the end of Wicked, the book opens up.
1:02:50 Laci Mosley? Yeah. So.
1:02:54 Laci Mosley? Oh, God. So, um, in season seventeen, Tyra had four, the four remaining contestants on her show, America's Next Top Model, perform as characters in the novel in a short film based on the book.
1:03:09 Speaker 05 No.
1:03:12 Speaker 05 How have I never heard this? I've never heard about.
1:03:16 Laci Mosley? Fab life.
1:03:17 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:03:18 Laci Mosley? So Fab Life with life wasn't that fat. Like, she quit the show after three months. And honestly, Jakiss, give me your best guess at what you think Tyra's catchphrase would be.
1:03:32 Speaker 05 For Fab life?
1:03:36 Speaker 05 Fabulous. I don't know.
1:03:41 Laci Mosley? Fabra cadabra.
1:03:45 Speaker 05 That was the next thing I was gonna say. I was gonna say that next. Fabra cadabra.
1:03:52 Laci Mosley? And her catch, you got a good voice. And her catchphrase didn't get to take off. And then, because she quit, right? And then, okay, if we were to think of someone who's Rita Ora in a different font.
1:04:08 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm.
1:04:10 Laci Mosley? Who would y'all guess?
1:04:12 Speaker 05 Rita Ora in a different font. Uh.
1:04:16 Laci Mosley? Because someone took over the show.
1:04:18 Speaker 05 Fergie?
1:04:19 Laci Mosley? Fergie?
1:04:20 Speaker 05 Nah. Fergie been down since he did the National Anthem all them years ago.
1:04:25 Laci Mosley? Oh, damn.
1:04:27 Speaker 05 Y'all remember that? Y'all remember that?
1:04:29 Laci Mosley? Ooh.
1:04:29 Speaker 05 It was like, Fergie, you done, bro, you done.
1:04:31 Laci Mosley? I was actually in the building for that.
1:04:33 Speaker 05 You was, you?
1:04:33 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:04:34 Speaker 05 I hate America, and I was even like, girl, don't do that.
1:04:36 Laci Mosley? I really enjoyed it.
1:04:38 Speaker 05 Don't do that. What you doing, man? Have more respect for, more respect for the National Anthem.
1:04:42 Laci Mosley? She was giving us rhythm. She was giving us blues. She was giving us jazz.
1:04:49 Laci Mosley? I love it. I love when people do too much. I do too much all the time. I need people to do too much. So wrapping this up, pretty soon here, guys, we're probably looking at what?
1:05:03 Laci Mosley? Yeah, yeah, probably about like 10, 15.
1:05:05 Speaker 05 There we go. They put it there.
1:05:06 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah, now they got it there. I didn't have to look at my phone like an unprofessional the whole goddamn time.
1:05:10 Speaker 05 That's okay. That's all right.
1:05:11 Laci Mosley? So, um, yeah.
1:05:13 Speaker 05 We're gonna keep Cobb here all night.
1:05:15 Laci Mosley? None of you guessed who...
1:05:18 Speaker 05 Paris Hilton?
1:05:19 Laci Mosley? Is Chrissy Teigen in a different font? Oh, shit, I just said it.
1:05:25 Speaker 05 Chrissy... What happened?
1:05:30 Laci Mosley? Rita Ora and Chrissy Teigen are the same person.
1:05:33 Speaker 05 Chrissy Teigen.
1:05:34 Laci Mosley? We've never seen them in the same room.
1:05:37 Speaker 05 Damn.
1:05:38 Laci Mosley? So Chrissy showed up and put her Rita Ora fashion on, was like, "I'm gonna keep hosting Tyra's show," and then it ended.
1:05:49 Laci Mosley? Now, remember Tyra Beauty?
1:05:52 Speaker 05 No.
1:05:54 Laci Mosley? No?
1:05:54 Speaker 05 No.
1:05:55 Laci Mosley? No?
1:05:55 Speaker 05 I'm gonna be real with you, Lacey. I ain't heard nothing from Tyra in 15 years.
1:06:03 Speaker 05 I thought she was not doing anything. And like, she been doing a lot.
1:06:08 Laci Mosley? She's a busy lady.
1:06:09 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:06:10 Laci Mosley? So this was her multi-level marketing scheme. So Tyra told the TV Critics Association, "When the Tyra Banks show ended, I was like, I'm done with talk. I'm gonna hunker down, go to business school, and really focus on the business side of my career."
1:06:30 Speaker 05 Okay, Tyra.
1:06:31 Laci Mosley? With the business.
1:06:34 Laci Mosley? So by business school, she meant Harvard.
1:06:40 Laci Mosley? Harvard's non-degree-granting course.
1:06:47 Laci Mosley? Harvard. Non-degree engine course.
1:06:51 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:06:53 Laci Mosley? Called the nine-week owner-president management program. Lot of words in there. Which has no formal educational requirements.
1:07:04 Speaker 05 Damn, you can go to Harvard with nothing? I didn't know you can go to Harvard with no education.
1:07:08 Laci Mosley? Yeah, skip a certificate. And it's giving you got to print it yourself.
1:07:14 Laci Mosley? Like, they not even going, bang, go.
1:07:16 Speaker 05 They just send you a link and be like, here you go, bro.
1:07:19 Laci Mosley? They send you a link.
1:07:20 Speaker 05 You print that out just so.
1:07:21 Laci Mosley? They airdrop that shit to you. They like, you got to airdrop on for your Harvard non-real degree. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah. They don't even refer to them as students, they call them clients.
1:07:36 Speaker 05 Damn.
1:07:38 Laci Mosley? It's designed specifically for presidents and CEOs of companies. Over $10 million, like making over $10 million annually. Tyra said she wanted to educate herself as much as she could to help her sales force rake in what she calls "bank signs."
1:07:58 Laci Mosley? So Tyra, she said on her website, "My goal is to help you be the CEO of your life." "You can start your own business by selling Tyra beauty products." "I am galvanizing a community of entrepreneurs called..." What do you want to call these entrepreneurs? And then I'll tell you what she calls them.
1:08:25 Speaker 05 I would call the entrepreneurs, uh, bankrolls. I like that.
1:08:31 Laci Mosley? Oh, bankrolls is good.
1:08:33 Speaker 05 The bankrolls.
1:08:34 Laci Mosley? Tyra should have. You need to be on her team.
1:08:37 Speaker 05 I know, yeah. You looking for a job?
1:08:39 Laci Mosley? Yeah, cuz you need to be working with Tyra because she called them "beauty tainers."
1:08:44 Speaker 05 Beauty tainers?
1:08:47 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:08:47 Speaker 05 I'm real with you, man. Tyra do sound like black woman Donald Trump.
1:08:55 Laci Mosley? I didn't want to say it.
1:08:57 Speaker 05 It sound like it's crazy. It's crazy.
1:09:00 Laci Mosley? But she's not that bad.
1:09:02 Speaker 05 Nah, she's not as evil and as racist as he is.
1:09:04 Laci Mosley? He's evil as hell. He's, that's a different, she just be doing anything.
1:09:10 Speaker 05 She be doing anything.
1:09:11 Laci Mosley? She's like if Donald Trump had two loving parents.
1:09:16 Laci Mosley? Cause you know he's inflicting a lot of that pain on us because he ain't getting no hugs.
1:09:21 Speaker 05 He ain't get no hugs.
1:09:22 Laci Mosley? He used to be a fucking Democrat.
1:09:24 Speaker 05 He got a million dollars and was like, get on out of here.
1:09:26 Laci Mosley? And now Obama and Biden live rent free in his head because he's like, damn, I wish I could be as cool as them niggas, damn.
1:09:32 Speaker 05 Crazy.
1:09:33 Laci Mosley? And he, he was mad about January 6th. You know the funniest thing that he said?
1:09:37 Speaker 05 What?
1:09:37 Laci Mosley? He was like, January 6th, like, my fans, my, uh, the people, they didn't look as good as I thought they would.
1:09:45 Speaker 05 The people? They didn't look as good as I thought.
1:09:47 Laci Mosley? They didn't, they didn't, they didn't look as good?
1:09:49 Speaker 05 They didn't look as good?
1:09:50 Laci Mosley? Yeah. He was mad that his fans was ugly.
1:09:56 Laci Mosley? He was like, y'all supposed to be sexy storming the Capitol.
1:09:59 Speaker 05 And honestly, Tyra Banks would've said the same. Tyra Banks would've said the same. She would've been like, with all these ugly people in this room.
1:10:10 Laci Mosley? Come out here representing me like this.
1:10:12 Speaker 05 We was rooting for you.
1:10:14 Laci Mosley? And that's why I appreciate y'all, because y'all be looking nice and good when y'all come to the show.
1:10:18 Speaker 05 Everybody looking beautiful.
1:10:20 Laci Mosley? Thank you for putting that shit on. I appreciate that. So, uh, as we are wrapping up here, yes, so beauty tainers, right?
1:10:27 Speaker 05 Beauty tainers.
1:10:28 Laci Mosley? So she said, okay, I know some of y'all probably heard the music when he first walked in here. And it was like a little ominous and scary.
1:10:36 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm.
1:10:37 Laci Mosley? That's how, she was like, yeah.
1:10:39 Speaker 05 She was like, yeah. The first song I heard was from Sinners. That's when, for the first people that walked in, y'all was listening to Sinners coming in. I was like, God damn, I mean, it was black.
1:10:51 Laci Mosley? Right?
1:10:51 Speaker 05 It was black. I thought it was a choice.
1:10:53 Laci Mosley? I was like, stay in feels, I said, steal stuff. And then I was like, they probably gonna think this is a trap because I got this fucking music on, like, I'm fucking, like, I'm like, I can't, I need to put a period in between I say the next sentence. Like, like I'm Jesus at the Last Supper, like, one of you will betray me.
1:11:10 Speaker 05 One of you betray me. When they was like, we can't steal this music, which means the people that did steal to that music. Y'all niggas from the Tenderloin or something, boy.
1:11:23 Laci Mosley? So yeah, she said that she's gonna train her beauty tainers with her team in the art of fusing beauty and entertainment. What could those two words go together as? And racking them up into bank signs. Every new beauty tainer was assigned to an established beauty tainer crew and to be an active beauty tainer.
1:11:49 Speaker 05 This is wild.
1:11:50 Laci Mosley? Now, listen.
1:11:51 Speaker 05 How long did this go on?
1:11:53 Laci Mosley? It might still be going. Now, look.
1:11:55 Speaker 05 And don't be ashamed. Don't be ashamed. Is anybody in this room?
1:11:59 Laci Mosley? Is anybody a beauty tainer? Is anybody a beauty tainer?
1:12:03 Speaker 05 Anybody a beauty tainer in here?
1:12:04 Laci Mosley? No.
1:12:05 Speaker 05 No? Okay.
1:12:07 Laci Mosley? What you saying?
1:12:08 Speaker 05 No, thank you.
1:12:09 Laci Mosley? She said, "No, thank you." Okay.
1:12:11 Speaker 05 You can tell us after the show.
1:12:12 Laci Mosley? You can tell us after the show if you a beauty tainer. You, listen, you don't have to confess now. You can confess later. Now, listen, if you wanna be a beauty tainer in the future, all you need is $150. Now, you can either sell $150 worth of product, or you can give her $150.
1:12:29 Speaker 05 And you're a beauty tainer.
1:12:30 Laci Mosley? And then also, like, just a little $59 to enroll.
1:12:34 Speaker 05 You gotta give $150 and $59 to enroll?
1:12:38 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it's just $2.99.
1:12:40 Speaker 05 Just $2.
1:12:41 Laci Mosley? Are you trying to be a beauty tainer or not?
1:12:44 Speaker 05 Listen, you know what? You gotta pay to be beautiful. I get it.
1:12:47 Laci Mosley? Yes.
1:12:48 Speaker 05 I get it. I wanna be a beauty tainer.
1:12:50 Laci Mosley? And now, listen, after you pay your fees and order products, we have the 6-Minute Tie-Over Kit. I don't know if that one's working.
1:13:00 Speaker 05 The 6-Minute Tie-Over Kit.
1:13:02 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it's gonna tie you over.
1:13:03 Speaker 05 It's gonna tie you over for 6 minutes.
1:13:05 Laci Mosley? We got the Smiles Eye Shadow Palette.
1:13:08 Speaker 05 Smiles, where your eyes are smiling.
1:13:09 Laci Mosley? Mm-hmm.
1:13:10 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:13:11 Laci Mosley? We got the Stick With Me Makeup Setting Spritz.
1:13:14 Speaker 05 All right, we found the person who a beauty tainer, right? There we go.
1:13:19 Laci Mosley? I think we heard a beauty tainer. We got the Oops Eyeliner, which is definitely something you wanna hear when you're putting something near your eye.
1:13:26 Speaker 05 Yeah, Oops.
1:13:27 Laci Mosley? Oops.
1:13:28 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:13:30 Laci Mosley? And then, um, also, we got Menagerie Brow.
1:13:35 Speaker 05 Menagerie brow?
1:13:36 Laci Mosley? Which I don't want my eyebrows to fuck. Like.
1:13:39 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:13:40 Laci Mosley? I actually want them to be separate.
1:13:43 Speaker 05 Also, menagerie, ain't that three?
1:13:45 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:13:46 Speaker 05 Where the third one at? Where the third eyebrow at?
1:13:48 Laci Mosley? Menagerie brow.
1:13:50 Speaker 05 Menagerie brow?
1:13:51 Laci Mosley? She's trying to put them all together. We don't need to look at this.
1:13:55 Speaker 03 I want to tell you the story of a woman.
1:13:56 Laci Mosley? OK, fine.
1:13:57 Speaker 03 A woman that stayed married to her younger than she should have because she didn't have the money or the independence to leave a marriage that she felt was no longer a positive.
1:14:05 Laci Mosley? She's recruiting.
1:14:06 Speaker 03 And one day, she found a chance to leave that marriage. And she moved her kids to a one-bedroom apartment.
1:14:12 Speaker 05 What a crazy position to sit in for a video.
1:14:15 Speaker 03 Of Los Angeles, California.
1:14:17 Laci Mosley? Why she filming a lady house?
1:14:19 Speaker 03 While her little one shared a tiny room.
1:14:21 Laci Mosley? She said, "Look at the stairwell."
1:14:22 Speaker 03 She promised her children on that first night, in that one-bedroom apartment, that in one year, they would move to an apartment with two bedrooms.
1:14:31 Speaker 03 She did just that.
1:14:32 Speaker 05 I want to be clear, she has a chair behind her.
1:14:34 Speaker 03 She promised her kids that in one year, they would move to a safer area.
1:14:38 Speaker 05 Ah.
1:14:39 Speaker 03 She did just that. She was able to move her family into their three-bedroom dream home. That woman was my mama, and one of those kids was forced to leave. And my mama is somebody that thinks outside of the box. If there was a more modern and an edgy and a fun, independent, business opportunity than what she had for her back then.
1:14:58 Speaker 05 But we still in the hood, baby.
1:15:03 Speaker 03 So what is tire beauty? And how did my mama's struggle lead me to?
1:15:07 Laci Mosley? What? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have to, I'm not going to go back to the video, but I, why she? Why was she like, can someone go do poor B-roll?
1:15:18 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:15:19 Laci Mosley? Like, can we find one of those?
1:15:22 Speaker 05 Show us poor pictures.
1:15:23 Laci Mosley? Can we find a stairwell that's so dirty?
1:15:27 Speaker 05 Let's find a stairwell with paint chipped off of it.
1:15:31 Laci Mosley? Can we find one of those windows with the bars on it? That's going to really get it across. And then she's like, "And that was my mother."
1:15:38 Speaker 05 Let's find a two-bedroom apartment that don't have a door on the front. On the front of the building.
1:15:47 Laci Mosley? Why would she do this? She's so unserious. Please be for real.
1:15:53 Speaker 05 I love that she was like, "My mama moved us." She was like, "I promise, we're gonna get better."
1:15:58 Laci Mosley? She was like, "It was still ghetto, though, when we moved to the two-bedroom."
1:16:00 Speaker 05 We had a two-bedroom.
1:16:01 Laci Mosley? Mama wasn't doing that great at the time.
1:16:03 Speaker 05 But gunshots were still flying through the air.
1:16:07 Laci Mosley? But then eventually, she got it together and got us a home. And you can do that, too, with Tyra Beauty. She acted like her mama did Tyra Beauty. How you gonna advertise your mama's success story?
1:16:20 Speaker 05 Also, it's a lot of beautiful people in the hood, too. What beauty gotta do with getting out the hood, man? There's a lot of beautiful people in the hood.
1:16:27 Laci Mosley? Honestly, beauty gets you out of the hood pretty quick.
1:16:30 Speaker 05 Beauty gets you out, yeah, maybe. Beauty and dribbling the basketball gets you out the hood quick.
1:16:34 Laci Mosley? Oh, Lord. And also being smart. Look at all our computer kids in here.
1:16:38 Speaker 05 Man, ain't none of these... Who grew up in the hood? Who grew up in the hood here? Yeah, there you go.
1:16:44 Laci Mosley? All right.
1:16:45 Speaker 05 There you go. There we go.
1:16:47 Laci Mosley? So you saw some of them stairwells with the paint?
1:16:50 Speaker 05 You saw them steroids. You saw them windows with the bars? You was like, "I'm home."
1:16:54 Laci Mosley? You saw?
1:16:59 Speaker 05 I didn't know I was gonna see home when I got to this show. Sorry, man. I grew up on the south side of Chicago. I grew up in the hood, bro. I grew up in the hood. I grew up in the hood. I get you.
1:17:12 Laci Mosley? This hand is saying I did not. Stay strong. Damn. So Tyra, she came out of modeling retirement to return to Sports Illustrated, right? But she got a new name now. Remember, she got 511 names. Now we're on Bank X. Honestly, she beat Elon to it. She threw a X on it.
1:17:41 Speaker 05 Wait, she changed her, like, name?
1:17:44 Laci Mosley? Yes, she said the new symbol. She said the X symbolized X-ing out, like, cookie cutter beauty.
1:17:53 Speaker 05 But why she still use B-A-N, then? Just use X.
1:18:02 Speaker 05 Just use X.
1:18:04 Laci Mosley? Yeah, BanX is kinda crazy.
1:18:06 Speaker 05 BanX is crazy, just use X.
1:18:08 Laci Mosley? It sounds like the deodorant I had as a teen.
1:18:10 Speaker 05 Yeah, that sound like a high blood pressure medication.
1:18:13 Laci Mosley? BanX.
1:18:17 Laci Mosley? Now that I've started using BanX, my days are brighter. I have time to play with my grandchildren.
1:18:26 Speaker 05 On BanX, I could do the things I never could do before.
1:18:32 Laci Mosley? And now all of a sudden, I'm on a bicycle and then I'm in a bathtub. Yeah, and so she said, "BankX, BanX."
1:18:42 Speaker 05 Banks? Oh, it's still supposed to be Banks?
1:18:45 Laci Mosley? Damn, I can't read.
1:18:49 Speaker 05 Hey, that's not on us. That's her with that dumbass name.
1:18:52 Laci Mosley? Well, Luke, if you knew I was saying it wrong, why didn't you say something, Luke?
1:18:55 Speaker 05 Yeah, go on, man.
1:18:56 Laci Mosley? You over there laughing, you knew I was saying BanX and it was Banks.
1:18:59 Speaker 05 We was up here talking about like it's medicine.
1:19:02 Laci Mosley? Help me!
1:19:02 Speaker 05 It was like, this is medicine.
1:19:05 Laci Mosley? Thank you, thank you, sis. Thank you, sis, right? I appreciate the front row on this side.
1:19:10 Speaker 05 You relate to a nigga who had bars on his windows, he don't even tell you shit. Don't tell you nothing, man.
1:19:16 Laci Mosley? Banks, not BanX, Banks. Fine, I can't read good no more, apparently. So...
1:19:24 Speaker 05 Nah, I think not knowing how to pronounce B-A-N-X is okay.
1:19:29 Laci Mosley? Well, she said that Banks is her. It's also every woman.
1:19:33 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:19:34 Laci Mosley? Banks represents rebirth, and that beauty and boundaries can always be broken.
1:19:41 Speaker 05 Wow.
1:19:42 Laci Mosley? Now, before we go, this is the next logical place that we have to go, okay? And it's gonna make so much sense. This is Tyra's next adventure. Theme park!
1:19:55 Speaker 05 Hell, yeah!
1:20:00 Laci Mosley? Yeah, yeah, you know how you gotta do a little theme park sometimes.
1:20:04 Speaker 05 I love a theme park.
1:20:06 Laci Mosley? You know how you gotta do a little.
1:20:07 Speaker 05 I love a theme park. Everybody who know me know I love a theme park. I love it.
1:20:11 Laci Mosley? I literally just saw a TikTok video of people having to walk off a Six Flags ride. And somebody in the comments was like, oh bitch, if I have to walk off this hoe, I'm on five of them flags when I get to the ground.
1:20:24 Laci Mosley? Cause what do you mean?
1:20:27 Laci Mosley? What do you mean?
1:20:28 Speaker 05 Hey, you know, listen, sometimes rides get stuck.
1:20:31 Laci Mosley? Tyra, Tyra entered the theme park industry and she's a known Disney lover. Doesn't that make sense that she's a Disney adult? It adds up.
1:20:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, where my Disney people at? Where my Disney people at? There we go. I see you.
1:20:45 Laci Mosley? So she made this theme park called Modeland.
1:20:49 Speaker 05 After the book?
1:20:53 Laci Mosley? She ran it back.
1:20:54 Speaker 05 She ran it back.
1:20:55 Laci Mosley? She ran it back. Now, listen, Modeland was at the Santa Monica Place Shopping Mall. Cause you know how theme parks be at the mall.
1:21:05 Speaker 05 Yeah, I was gonna say, theme park and 10,000 square foot don't go together.
1:21:10 Laci Mosley? Yes.
1:21:11 Speaker 05 Theme parks are bigger than that. That's a store.
1:21:15 Laci Mosley? A theme park is whatever, it's whatever you want in your mind. A theme park is a vibe.
1:21:20 Speaker 05 I guess so.
1:21:21 Laci Mosley? A theme park is a feeling. Put your hands up right now, wee.
1:21:25 Speaker 05 Wee. We in a theme park.
1:21:28 Laci Mosley? Woo. Yes, yes. See, she got her hands up. Thank you for coming to my theme park.
1:21:37 Laci Mosley? So yeah, 10,000 square foot and she ticketed it as an immersive experience. I love that cause it's so vague. It could mean anything. What does immersive really mean?
1:21:52 Speaker 05 It means that if you white, they might put you in blackface.
1:22:00 Speaker 05 Wait, this is in our, this is near us, Santa Monica Place?
1:22:04 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:22:04 Speaker 05 First of all, I ain't never heard of that mall in my life.
1:22:06 Laci Mosley? I ain't never heard of it either. So it opened two years after it was supposed to, because we know she loves to be late.
1:22:13 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah.
1:22:14 Laci Mosley? And it's obviously half the size it was supposed to be. You pay for a regular or a VIP ticket, and you walk through a series of themed rooms at the mall.
1:22:27 Speaker 05 Mmm.
1:22:29 Laci Mosley? So...
1:22:31 Speaker 05 All right, we got the beauty tit- what's it called again? The beautician, what's it called?
1:22:34 Laci Mosley? The beautitainers?
1:22:35 Speaker 05 The beauty tankers?
1:22:38 Laci Mosley? All right, let's, let's immerse ourselves. Everyone ready to be immersed?
1:22:43 Speaker 05 Let's immerse.
1:22:44 Laci Mosley? Yeah?
1:22:44 Speaker 05 I'm ready.
1:22:45 Laci Mosley? We're ready?
1:22:46 Speaker 05 I still love Tyra, I'm ready.
1:22:47 Laci Mosley? Is y'all, is y'all immersed?
1:22:49 Speaker 05 This looks like something I would spend $2.32 on.
1:22:53 Laci Mosley? Even the mannequin looked tired.
1:22:55 Speaker 05 Yeah. Yeah.
1:22:57 Laci Mosley? She don't look like she wanna be there.
1:22:59 Speaker 05 Hell, yeah.
1:23:00 Laci Mosley? And, and, and baby, y'all couldn't get a tablecloth for this table? Why am I looking, why am I looking at raw table foot?
1:23:08 Speaker 05 This is, yeah, man, we got-
1:23:09 Laci Mosley? Why is the table showing feet?
1:23:11 Speaker 05 Not raw table foot. This table ain't got no shoes on or nothing. Table ain't got no shoes on, the mannequin naked.
1:23:18 Laci Mosley? Why he put a coat on that baby?
1:23:21 Speaker 05 The mannequin ain't got no clothes on.
1:23:23 Laci Mosley? At all. And then she got three wigs.
1:23:27 Speaker 05 Just chilling.
1:23:28 Laci Mosley? Some mannequins. This is the immersive-
1:23:30 Speaker 05 What you supposed to do-
1:23:31 Laci Mosley? Why she got leather gloves? What is this immersive experience?
1:23:33 Speaker 05 What the fuck this gotta do with being a model?
1:23:36 Laci Mosley? I don't, I don't know. But look, somebody is immersing themselves. Look in the back, it's a photo booth.
1:23:42 Speaker 05 Oh, right there, I see.
1:23:44 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it looks kinda sad, whatever this photo booth is, but they look like they immersing.
1:23:48 Speaker 05 For people who are listening to the podcast and can't see this yet, the description, the description of this is, "It looks like shit."
1:23:58 Laci Mosley? Closed captioning. It looks like shit.
1:24:03 Laci Mosley? Oh, man, yeah, but that's the VIP ticket, y'all. So y'all need to get immersed.
1:24:07 Speaker 05 That's the VIP ticket?
1:24:10 Laci Mosley? Yeah. So, you know, I do want to say this before I move on from this. She said that her theme park was a natural extension of the mission she began with on America's Next Top Model. She said, "My empathy for women in general increased through the experience." And now...
1:24:34 Speaker 05 He knows, lies. I hear you back there.
1:24:38 Laci Mosley? And now with Model Land, I'm taking it 10 steps forward, giving people the opportunity to engage with the elusive world by opening it up to everyone. Three wigs and a raw table, guys. We've been missing out. Now, all right, black people, we've reached the end of the show. I know, I know. Wait, I have a hot mic. I'll let two people come up and give me listener letters, and then we have to get the fuck out of here. I heard someone scream, so I know that they coming. So, um, the last thing here, hot ice cream.
1:25:19 Laci Mosley? So, Smize and Dream.
1:25:21 Speaker 05 Smize and Dream?
1:25:23 Laci Mosley? Yeah, that's the hot ice cream.
1:25:24 Speaker 05 Oh, she actually got hot ice cream?
1:25:26 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it's exactly what it sounds like.
1:25:28 Speaker 05 So it's just milk? She be on that toilet, boy, like, "This supposed to be for my bones."
1:25:37 Speaker 05 She be on that toilet, boy.
1:25:38 Laci Mosley? Your bones are gonna be so good. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, and it's not a real thing. It's not melted ice cream. It's not a latte. It's not creme anglaise. Did I say that right, Luke?
1:25:53 Laci Mosley? Thank you.
1:25:57 Laci Mosley? It's a new invention, guys. Here's Tyra talking about her company and its legacy. I'm actually not gonna play that because I don't care to. So this hot ice cream is only available in Sydney, Australia. And for some reason, at her ice cream parlor, Smize and Dream, after an Australian reporter asked this... Basically, the Australian reporter was like, "Bro, fuck going on? What is this? What are you selling to put in our mouths, ma'am?" And so then he, a petty person, and I do love the petty community.
1:26:36 Speaker 05 Petty, the pettiness.
1:26:38 Laci Mosley? Wow, the petty community really...
1:26:41 Speaker 05 Petty is here. Petty is in San Francisco.
1:26:44 Laci Mosley? Thank you for acknowledging the petty community, of course. I got y'all, I got y'all. So someone looked it up, and they said, "You can't call something ice cream unless it has 10% milk fat." So hot ice cream will now be referred to as hot Smice cream.
1:27:07 Speaker 05 I admire this woman's audacity. I fucking love it. I love it. A black woman with audacity is the best thing in the goddamn world. I fucking love it. I love it.
1:27:22 Laci Mosley? We should let more black women get away with this type of shit.
1:27:25 Speaker 05 I love it.
1:27:26 Laci Mosley? We deserve it. We deserve it. We work so hard.
1:27:30 Speaker 05 Yes.
1:27:31 Laci Mosley? Uplifting society, doing all the movements.
1:27:35 Speaker 05 Yes. Make Smice cream, girl. Do your fucking thing.
1:27:38 Laci Mosley? She should be making Smice cream.
1:27:40 Speaker 05 Do your thing.
1:27:41 Laci Mosley? Yeah, there it is. Yeah. So that's her face.
1:27:45 Speaker 05 Why she got an ice cream mustache again? She got the ice cream mustache?
1:27:48 Laci Mosley? Yeah, she went back to Got Milk. Maybe that's where she was inspired.
1:27:51 Speaker 05 That's where she was inspired.
1:27:52 Laci Mosley? She said Got Milk, and now I got Smice cream.
1:27:55 Speaker 05 I got Smice cream.
1:27:56 Laci Mosley? Beautiful. Oh, oh, and the flavors. I didn't read the flavors.
1:28:00 Speaker 05 Ooh, what we got?
1:28:01 Laci Mosley? We got Wake Up and Smell the Crunchy.
1:28:04 Speaker 05 Yep.
1:28:05 Laci Mosley? That makes sense.
1:28:05 Speaker 05 Love the smell of crunchy.
1:28:07 Laci Mosley? All Night Love. Why not?
1:28:09 Speaker 05 All Night Love?
1:28:10 Laci Mosley? Is that like all night long? Was she listening to Lionel Richie and was like...
1:28:13 Speaker 05 Probably.
1:28:14 Laci Mosley? All Night Love?
1:28:15 Speaker 05 Probably, yeah.
1:28:16 Laci Mosley? And then Purple Cookie Monstar.
1:28:19 Speaker 05 She was high as hell when she said, made that one.
1:28:20 Laci Mosley? High as fuck.
1:28:21 Speaker 05 She was high as fuck, bro.
1:28:22 Laci Mosley? For sure.
1:28:24 Speaker 05 She was.
1:28:24 Laci Mosley? She looked high in this picture.
1:28:25 Speaker 05 She was gone, boy.
1:28:26 Laci Mosley? Honestly, maybe we all need to be eating smyes when we're high.
1:28:30 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:28:31 Laci Mosley? Eat it when you're high. We don't know what it is. Don't act like y'all ain't ate some shit when y'all was high. It was really kinda questionable.
1:28:39 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm.
1:28:40 Laci Mosley? So, alright. I have a microphone here.
1:28:46 Speaker 05 Ooh.
1:28:47 Laci Mosley? And I will take two guesses. If you want to be the fastest one, if you want to tell me about a scam, a scheme, a crime.
1:28:56 Speaker 05 I see the fucking longest arm and hand I've ever seen in the back, right there.
1:28:58 Laci Mosley? Oh, you raising your hand?
1:29:00 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:29:00 Laci Mosley? Oh, y'all don't have to turn the lights up on everybody like that.
1:29:03 Speaker 05 Come on up, come on up, you standing up? Come up, come up, come up.
1:29:05 Laci Mosley? Come on up!
1:29:06 Speaker 05 Yeah, you right there, right there, yeah.
1:29:07 Laci Mosley? Okay, you better walk, you better walk the runway.
1:29:10 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:29:11 Laci Mosley? Yes, yes!
1:29:16 Speaker 05 That's one.
1:29:16 Laci Mosley? Okay, you better come on in your car. Is that a car or a blazer?
1:29:20 Speaker 05 Oh my god, I'm so happy to talk with you.
1:29:24 Laci Mosley? Oh my god, are you drunk?
1:29:24 Speaker 05 You specifically, no. I am intoxicated with life. I'm so excited to be at the community here and I'm what? Asshole, yes, very excited. I stole that from my, like, I'm gonna tell you.
1:29:42 Laci Mosley? You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna come over here, cuz I think I might, I think I might need to-
1:29:46 Speaker 05 God damn!
1:29:47 Laci Mosley? I think I might need to hold your hand.
1:29:49 Speaker 05 So cute.
1:29:50 Laci Mosley? Alright, what's up?
1:29:52 Speaker 05 Okay, so, um, so I stole your intro for my, I host a hundred thousand real estate agents and I stole my intro to my education thing and I say, you know what, real estate agents? I'm excited. And now I have them saying-
1:30:08 Laci Mosley? For what? They're saying for what?
1:30:10 Speaker 05 For anything real estate related, but I, what I'm saying is like, I-
1:30:14 Laci Mosley? So you're excited for like a bus spin? You excited for like a-
1:30:18 Speaker 05 Anything, anything, that's what you get me excited about, anything, anything.
1:30:21 Laci Mosley? Okay.
1:30:21 Speaker 05 So, what I wanna ask you is-
1:30:24 Laci Mosley? Oh, we haven't even gotten to the question.
1:30:25 Speaker 05 Oh yeah, cuz boy, I was confused as hell. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? My question, my question is- What are you excited about? Oh.
1:30:36 Laci Mosley? Oh, don't make me cry. You know what I'm excited about? I'm excited about tonight and being present here with all of you. And I'm also excited that my friends and family came. I'm excited to see people that I love, and I love all of you. Yeah.
1:30:57 Speaker 05 What's your name, what's your name, my friend? Nikki, what's your name again? Nikki Jacquis. I loved your commentary. I thought you were really funny. Oh, thank you.
1:31:07 Laci Mosley? Now Nikki. I didn't know what to expect, Lacey, and actually, let me tell you a story real quick. Let me tell you a story real quick. Let me tell you a story real quick. So, actually, I saw you.
1:31:16 Speaker 05 Yup.
1:31:16 Laci Mosley? I loved you. I loved you since Scam Goddess. I loved you since Scam Goddess. Nikki, Nikki, shit. Oh, not the Sandman. Oh, shit. They done called the Sandman on you, Nikki.
1:31:29 Speaker 05 We'll tell them about it.
1:31:30 Laci Mosley? But Nikki, I love you. Thank you for coming up and sharing a moment with me. They done called the Sandman on you. I love you. I love you. I'm so happy.
1:31:39 Speaker 05 They gave, they gave, they gave Nikki the Apollo, like, get up on.
1:31:43 Laci Mosley? They, they literally win.
1:31:48 Laci Mosley? Not y'all was... All right, we have time for one more, okay?
1:31:53 Speaker 05 Oh, man.
1:31:54 Laci Mosley? All I want to say is, white people really do be sharing all their business, right? What?
1:31:58 Speaker 05 White people be what?
1:32:00 Laci Mosley? All their business, like, unasked. Have you noticed that? Oh, yeah. Anyway, this is my friend.
1:32:05 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's because black people scared to go in the jail, that's why.
1:32:08 Laci Mosley? No, no, it's cool. It's cool. Sometimes you have to cosplay as the help, you know? They be like, oh, let's, you know, I was just talking about that. They want to sit on the porch and drink lemonade. I just told you, if you, if you listen to Brandon Kyle's Goodman Podcast, I told y'all, white people miss us. They love chatting with us. They miss having black friends.
1:32:26 Speaker 05 They do. They miss us.
1:32:27 Laci Mosley? They love black friends. I love lemonade, but I am half-white.
1:32:32 Speaker 05 You half-white?
1:32:33 Laci Mosley? Lacey, Lacey, have you heard of the Sherpas who are taking people up to the top? Yeah, they take them to the top of Everest for the normal price, whatever, and then they say, well, now you're here. So, if you want to get back... If you want me to lead you back down, then you can pay maybe like 10, maybe like 20 times what you're gonna pay. But they deserve it. I am on the side of those Sherpas. I'm on the side of the Sherpas too. By all these rich men who go and are like, I'm gonna climb Everest. And those guys are the ones who die, like most often it's the Sherpa who die on those excursions. They're getting paid shit. Like they should scam all the rich men climbing Everest.
1:33:16 Speaker 05 I love it.
1:33:18 Laci Mosley? Go Sherpas. And honestly, shout out to the one Sherpa who probably had that idea. He was like, we've been leading all these people up the mountain and we the only ones who know how to get back on up and down this bitch.
1:33:32 Speaker 05 Yeah. And it gotta be our white man too, because if it was me, I'd be like, nigga, I'm getting on your back. You ain't gonna be able to walk without me.
1:33:43 Laci Mosley? We love them, we support them. Right. I mean, I could get on the back, but I'll hold on to an ankle. We riding down, we riding down together. Alright, congregation.
1:33:54 Speaker 05 The congregation. Give it up to yourselves. Give it up to yourselves.
1:33:57 Laci Mosley? Thank you.
1:34:01 Speaker 05 Also, because I know she won't do it.
1:34:03 Laci Mosley? We all got up today.
1:34:04 Speaker 05 Because I know she won't do it. Give it up for Lacey. Give it up for Lacey right now.
1:34:10 Speaker 05 The scam goddess.
1:34:16 Speaker 05 Like I said, I've known, I've known Lacey for 10 months. I've known Lacey for 10 months.
1:34:22 Laci Mosley? Since I was born.
1:34:23 Speaker 05 We came up, we came up together in the LA comedy scene and it's really dope to see what you're doing. I love you. I'm proud of you. Keep doing your thing. Keep doing your thing. I love it.
1:34:32 Laci Mosley? And I'm proud of all of you. Every day, getting out of bed is a fucking accomplishment.
1:34:42 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:34:44 Speaker 05 And sometimes you don't even get up on time.
1:34:51 Speaker 05 Yeah, we on the same flight tomorrow. And watch, I'm gonna be on that plane tomorrow by myself. Where you at, Lacey?
1:35:01 Laci Mosley? So y'all just gonna roast me at the end of my show?
1:35:05 Laci Mosley? This how y'all feel? Well, congregation, please get home safely. If you didn't have an opportunity to steal something off of the table, you might as well go and get you some. Thank you all so much for being here. Please get home safely. Goodnight.
1:35:36 Laci Mosley? Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.
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