SC EP:1176 It Was Six Feet From My Van

Linda writes "I wanted to share my experience I had back in April of this year. This was in a large natural area in Southeast Michigan. I was suppose to meet up with my research/ investigating friend on a Friday night in May at a camp. The weather was not so great on the way down. It was storming off and on throughout the afternoon. When I got to the camp nobody was there. My friend Gabe was still working and had not been able to come yet. It wasn't dark yet but raining so I stayed in my van. Finally after texting back and forth, we established that He would come out the next morning because the radar showed a huge storm approaching and there were already flash flood warnings out. So as twilight approached I decided to go outside even though it was sprinkling and load up on my drinks for the night so I would not have to get out again after dark in the storm approaching. I did not have a fire going didn't see the sense in that. After grabbing two pops from my cooler I approached the opening of my van the slider door on the side. I had miscalculated my timing and now it was fairly dark with almost no light.. I looked toward my left out into this neighboring field there were 4 sets of eyes kind of greenish, and they were heading right at me. Now I figured they were about the right height for coyote or deer but I was a bit confused as to why they were coming at me. I grabbed my little flashlight from behind the seat and turned it on the eyes and yelled out in a very stern voice "Whatever you are that's far enough!" The creatures stopped and I realized now they were whitetails. All adult deer no fawns or bucks with them. In that second I thought to myself Why are these deer running up to me that's not normal behavior, light went off in my head, they were trying to escape a predator. Soon as I thought that they all raised their heads and looked back at the wood line on the other side of the field. Then bolted across the field taking off and away to the left. I started panning the wood line and bingo there about 7 or 8 feet ( a guess) up in the air were two huge round forward facing eyes set wide apart.. And NOW its watching me instead of following the deer. I called out "I see you" in a casual voice but loud enough to let it know I knew it was there. It kept watching me, I grabbed my bigger flashlight thinking i would light this thing up with my 1500 lumen but no all I could see was the eyes watching me still. Now its very dark and sprinkling harder. I decide to get into my van and get my thermal out thinking Im going to try and thermal this thing. Its still standing in the tree line. I step up into my slider door turn around and sit down on my bed, grab my key fob thinking id shut the slider door while its raining and I'm getting my thermal out..now I hit the keyfob and as the door slides shut I hear this very loud growl/roar and it sounds like it is 6 feet from my van!! The door finishes shutting I hit lock and alarm. I am in shock now and sitting inside in the dark thinking no way am I going back out there and am I going to have to climb over the middle console to jump in the drivers seat to escape?! I listened intently waiting to see if my door was going to be torn off or what this thing was going to do and then the torrential storm hit …I was not going to turn on any interior light and would just keep quiet..even though it rained most of the rest of the night i could hear screams and howls throughout the night. Something screamed and the coyotes sounded off going nuts…Gabe showed up next morning and crossed over there and found suspicious tracks…upon his return to camp he was going to go back and cast the one but it had been scuffed out, very strange. I was happy to not be alone anymore at camp Ill tell you that! Then in June in a different area I was attempting to hike a trail but stopped on top of a berm to look at a print and got charged from behind in the woods behind me but I couldn't see it..you are welcome to call me if you want the rest of that experience. Since I have talked to you on the phone years ago."

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• 0:03Speaker 00

  It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that, that shocked me. They don't make people that, that big.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  They were screaming at each other in gibberish.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw bears.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  911, what are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you better... Karen, see ya! Hello? Get somebody out of here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-uh.

• 1:36Speaker 03

  This is Robo Bobo from Bigfoot and Beyond and you are listening to Sasquatch Chronicles.

• 2:07Wes Germer?

  Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. We'll be chatting with Linda, and Linda comes to us from Michigan. And back when she was like 13, 14 years old, she had an encounter, and I had her on the show, gosh, it's probably been 800, 900 episodes ago, where she shared this encounter. And I've known Linda for a while. We're friends on Facebook, and she's constantly out there researching, investigating different areas. And she had this incident that happened to her back in April, May timeframe. And so I asked if she would come on and kind of share it with us. If you've had an encounter, and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an

• 2:51Wes Germer?

  email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Linda back to the show. Linda, thanks for coming on.

• 3:11Speaker 05

  You're welcome. I'm glad to be here. It's been a long time.

• 3:14Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it has been a long time. Thank you again for being here. And I know I interviewed you. I think, what did I say? It was like episode 300, or right around that timeframe. And you shared this incident that happened to you when you were very young. And it's kind of stayed with you throughout your whole life. And I know that you go out there and you research and you investigate different areas. And I want to get into that tonight, especially this incident that just happened to you back in April. But for the audience who may not remember that show, if you would, will you tell us about the encounter that happened to you when you were young? It'll kind of give us a baseline of why you're going out there and looking for these creatures.

• 3:56Speaker 05

  Well, I was about fourteen and I was with my, a group of my cousins here in Michigan. This was in northeast Midland County. My aunt and step, step uncle, they were renting a house that actually belongs to, at, at the time belonged to my other aunt. These are my dad's sisters. He's from Midland, Michigan here, but um, he was in the air force, so we were living in Oklahoma at the time. But anyway, we came here for summer vacation to go camping up in the Upper Peninsula. And before we went up to the U P, um, spent the night at my aunt and uncle's house here in Midland County. And my cousins got a new mini bike and we were all in the backyard.

• 4:39Speaker 05

  Um, it was in the afternoon, beautiful sunny day. Probably, I'm gonna guess, maybe around one or two in the afternoon. There was me, my step cousin Kathy and Robbie, my step cousin Robbie. My cousin Lori and her brother Jimmy, and then they had a friend over, his name was Roger. Uh, Roger was over and we were all taking turns on that mini bike, their new mini bike. Well, when our turn came, I got on the bike with Kathy, Kathy was driving and we went down the path out into the woods, there's, and when you get out there, there's like a turnaround and it's, if you were to look at it,

• 5:21Speaker 05

  you know, like from, with a drone or something, it, it looks like a, kinda like a number nine, I guess. The way it's, the path goes, and then it goes around in this big sandy, like a circle, and then, then you turn around and you go back down to go back to the backyard. Well, when we got into, Kathy and I got into the turnaround, like straight ahead of us, on the other side of this turnaround, there was this thing looking at us. All you could see was the head, you couldn't see the body, it was behind these bushes. Um, Kathy, when we saw, both saw it at the same time, the, turned the bike over and we got back up. We got back on the bike and we got out, we got back out of there. Yeah, as fast as we could.

• 6:06Speaker 05

  Got back up to the house and got off the bike and the other, two more kids came up and grabbed the bike and took off on it and Kathy. Took her helmet off. And went to go in the house and I asked her, I'm like, did you just see, see what I saw back there? And she said she did, but she, she started crying. She said, I don't want to talk about it and she went in the house. Well, she wouldn't come back out that day. And, uh, the other kids took off on the bike and I was, I didn't say anything to anybody. You know, at that time, I, I was kind of, I think I was in shock. Um. You know, my mind was at that point, my, your, your head is like a Rolodex, you know? Your mind is like a Rolodex, you're like going through all these.

• 6:52Speaker 05

  Cards in your head trying to figure out like what you saw, because you didn't know what it was. Cause you never seen it before, so it didn't compute. So it was looking right at us like a face forward. I had a good look at it, it, the turnaround wasn't that big. I mean. I'm just, I mean, it's hard to remember and I haven't been back to that house. That was the last time. Um, that was the last time I remember being at that house because. The next summer after that, my aunt and uncle had actually. Started building a house at a different location. So when we came back again, they didn't, they weren't in that house anymore. Now that house is still there. And the last time we drove by it, it, it looked like, uh, it was.

• 7:37Speaker 05

  It, I don't think it was for sale, but it didn't look like anybody was living there and it was very creepy because all the woods. Behind it even grew up even more around it. Um, and they had neighbors that lived next door at the time and the neighbors were very. Upset, I guess, with my. Aunt and uncle. And I didn't know this, all of this at the time. I found this out later. When, uh, Lori and when, when we all talked about it and, and. When I finally came out with what happened and, uh, and talked about it to Lori and Jimmy. Lori said she saw, either she saw that one or she saw a different one, we don't know. But she saw one back there too. When she was on foot back there.

• 8:20Speaker 05

  So, and then she uh was in the bedroom one night. She slept uh slept in the bedroom with my cousin, her sister Carlita. And um, this was in the summertime. And she thinks it was probably that same summer. That I came, we uh for July and vacation. Anyway, in the middle of the night. She woke up because Carlita was uh screaming. There was a big hairy. Uh, hand on the window, like they had the window open, but the screen was shut. Well, you could, she said you could see this big giant hand on the window screen. Carlita saw it and she screamed and my aunt, I guess my aunt came in the, in the bedroom and. Asked what was going on, what's going on and. They told my aunt what happened and.

• 9:06Speaker 05

  She's like, oh, you girls, you, you must have just been having a nightmare, just go back to sleep.

• 9:12Speaker 05

  And I told Lori, I'm like, did you like bring this subject up again after that, like? Did you like say, no, mom, you know, we weren't, nobody was dreaming, it was real. She's like, no, I didn't bother. And uh, you know, I never told my parents about it that day. That me and Kathy saw it. It was big, it had bit uh like smooth, smooth cheeks, um. It was very dark. Completted, it had great big, huge, round eyes that were set far apart. Um, the eyes were really dark. Like really dark brown or black. It had really long hair on its head. I couldn't see any ears. Like it had hair that covered where the ears would have been.

• 9:55Speaker 05

  It had a real long lip line, its mouth was really wide. It had big lips, but the, the lip, like it had a really. Uh, wide, like a wide mouth, like a long lip line. Um, it had a big nose, its nose was more, I don't want to say it was like a gorilla because it really was more like a human. But it was, but it was big. And it was kind of more. Flat flatter, I guess I want to say it. It didn't like stick up as much as like what a person's nose would. Um, I mean, you could see some of its forehead. It was just it had its

• 10:34Speaker 05

  mouth shut. It wasn't like bearing its teeth. It didn't make any noises at us. Um, I mean, if it did, we wouldn't have heard it because when we, when Kathy dumped the bike over and we dumped, you know, got the bike back up and picked the bike back up. Like it started right back, the bike started, the mini bike started right back up. We got on it and we got out of there. So it could have been, I mean, now that I, now that I know what I know now about these things after having more experiences with them. It could have been growling at us or something, but we wouldn't have heard it like over the bike.

• 11:09Wes Germer?

  Yeah. And I appreciate you kind of going over that experience. I know you've gone over it before on the show, but being that it was so long ago, it kind of gives people a background on you, Linda. And you had this incident happen in, uh, April. If you would kind of start from the beginning, what were you doing and what happened?

• 11:30Speaker 05

  So in April of this year, um, this was actually a campground in Southeast Michigan, and this is a great big like natural area. I had never been to this place before. This was the first time I'd ever been there. And I, uh, made reservations to go there. And I went, it was, uh, April 25th, which is a Friday. It was the same day that they had like a bunch of flood warnings and floods and, um, a bunch of rain and storms in Southeast Michigan that day. And I got to camp before, just like before dark. And all the way down, it was rainy. The weather was bad.

• 12:12Speaker 05

  Um, I pulled into this campground and I'd never been there before. And this campground, it's like a big circle and there's probably like maybe twenty-three campsites. It's all rustic. And there's nobody else in this campground except for there's like one other vehicle and it's like a class. I don't know, a class A or a class B camper. And there's no people around it. I never saw anybody go in it, never saw anybody come out of it. So, and there wasn't no cars there. So I don't know if the people, you know, like were inside it and they just weren't coming out, you know, because it was a, the weather was bad. Um, but it was just weird because when I got there, even the DNR didn't even come around.

• 12:55Speaker 05

  Like usually they drive around in their trucks every couple hours. Like I didn't see anybody. Uh, come to find out, this is like the only campground in this whole air, this whole thing. And this is like, I'm pretty sure it's like over a thousand acres. It's a, it's a really big area. And, but this is the only campground that they, that's available to the public. Well, this campground also, um, you can take horses there. So if you look at that picture I sent you, there's these big like posts in the ground. I, I think that's so people can like tie their horse up to it. And we were in campsite number seventeen.

• 13:38Speaker 05

  And on one side of that campsite, there's this big open field and then across this field, there's a wood line. Well, I had no clue on Friday that on the other side of that wood line, there's a dirt and gravel road. And then if you go across the road, there's, it's just more, it's more of this natural area that belongs to this park, you know? And, but I didn't know it at the time because that was the first time I'd been there and I was supposed to meet, uh, my friend Gabe was supposed to come there on Friday night. And I was in my van and I just stayed in my van for a while and we were texting. He said he wasn't gonna make it because he was still working. And I said, well, you know, we have a great big storm front that's about to roll in here, probably in,

• 14:23Speaker 05

  you know, by dark. I said, you might as well just not even come out until morning, because we had, we were gonna hike. But we weren't gonna, you know, hike and go out and we didn't wanna go out in a thunderstorm, with lightning and stuff. So, he said, well, don't go out walking around there. Don't go out walking around there at, you know, after dark by yourself. And I said, well, I'm not gonna do that. It's gonna storm anyway. So, we had that established. So I was pretty much by myself in this entire campground with nobody around and um, I was, so I was already creeped out. And I decided I would get out of my van before it got really dark, too dark, and get some drinks.

• 15:04Speaker 05

  I had my coolers outside. I thought I'm gonna get out, get some drinks, put some drinks in the back of my van. Um, this way, when it starts storming, I don't have to get out and get rained on, you know, to get in my cooler. And I work midnight shift, so I don't like generally, I'm not generally able to go to bed and just go to sleep like at nine or ten o'clock at night. I'm usually, even on my night off, I'm usually up till like two, two or three in the morning at least. So I'm still drinking and everything. So I go out to get my drinks in the cooler and I go to walk back. So my van is, um, it's parked sideways and I'm getting in and out the back slider door. It's a, it's a Toyota Sienna.

• 15:49Speaker 05

  So I have a, the, the doors on my van, they, they kinda slide open on the side. So I've got the slider door open and I go to get back in the slider door. And I turn my head to the left and I look out. Into this field and by now it's pretty much, it's pretty much dark. So I kinda miscalculated my timing. Because now it's pretty much dark and the wood line's completely dark. You can't see anything in the wood line. Uh, but now there's something in the field and some animals out in the field and they're all running at me. Like they're coming across this field and they're, they look like they were gonna run right up, right up to me.

• 16:33Speaker 05

  And you could tell they were down on all fours. You could kinda see some eye shine. Um, and I thought, now what the hell is that, you know? So I grabbed my flashlight, I have a little flashlight behind my seat and I grabbed my flashlight and I put my light on these things and I'm like, whatever you are, you know, that's far enough. Because I had no clue what, what the, I didn't know if it was coyotes or um, so I, I realized it was a deer, whitetail deer.

• 17:07Speaker 05

  And I'm standing there and they all stopped. After I yelled at them, they all stopped and now they're looking at me. And I'm thinking, why are these deer all running up to me like that? That's not even normal behavior. I'm, you know, it's very confusing and, and just when I think that, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, okay, if these deer are running up to me like that, it's because they're trying to get away from something. You know, and as soon as I thought that, these deer turned their heads and they all turned their head and they all looked like back at the wood line where they had come from. And then they all took off like a bat out of hell across this field.

• 17:50Speaker 05

  Like they, they were gone. And I'm thinking, yeah, I thought something's after these deer. So I start scanning the wood line across this field with my flashlight and there's a big pair of eyes. And it was like seven or eight feet up off the ground and these eyes were huge. They were big and they were round and they were set far apart. So, I know it's not a person. And I know it's not, I know it's a predator because of some kind because it's got the, you know, the forward facing eyes. And I'm thinking, okay, um, whatever this thing is, it's quite, it's quite a ways up off the ground.

• 18:34Speaker 05

  And it just stood there and now it's looking at me. And I'm thinking this thing is standing up on its, if this is a bear, it's standing up on its back legs for a long time. For a black bear, because we only have black bears here. And that's really not normal. You know, behavior for a bear either, you know, bears, I think the only reason bears stand on their hind legs is usually because they want to look around to see what's going on. And this, if this was a bear, it should have came back down on its front legs by now. Because it's standing there looking at me and I'm looking at it and it's not making a noise, it's not doing anything. So, I yell across this field at it. I said, I see you.

• 19:16Speaker 05

  And I, I didn't say it like in a mean tone of voice. I just kind of yelled at it to say, you know, I can see you, just to like to let it know that I knew it was there. Because I guess I was trying to get a reaction out of it to see what it was gonna do. Cause I'm trying to figure out what this thing is because I'm thinking it might be a bigfoot. But I can't really say that because it's so dark out there. I can't really see its body. All I can see is the eyes right now. And the, and kind of judge the height of it.

• 19:47Speaker 05

  Yeah. So it didn't do anything. It blinked its eyes. And it's still standing there and now it's still looking at me. And I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna get a different flashlight out. So I grabbed a bigger flashlight. I have another flashlight. I call it my cop light. It's like a fifteen hundred lumen or something like that. And I'm thinking, I'm gonna put this light on it. Surely I can see something. You know, with this flashlight. So I put that flashlight on it and it's still standing there and it's still watching me and, but I still can't tell what it is. All I can still see is the eyes. Now it's starting to rain and that storm is the storm that was supposed to come in, the big storm. Now that storm is, it's starting.

• 20:29Speaker 05

  And I'm thinking, okay, you know, I'm gonna get in the back of my van, I'm gonna get my thermal out and I'm gonna thermal this thing. And then we're gonna find out what it is when I thermal it. Because once I put my thermal on it, I'll be able to tell, you know, what it is or what it isn't for sure. So I shut my flashlight off, stuck it in the back of the seat. And got up and crawled into the back of my van and turned around and sat down on my bed. Grabbed my key fob and hit the door, uh, to shut the door, the sliding door. And as soon as I hit my key fob to shut that sliding door and the door started to slide shut. There was this really loud growl.

• 21:14Speaker 05

  And it sounded like it was like five feet from my van. Like where I had just been out there standing, it was at my van. My door shuts, I hit lock and alarm. And now I'm sitting there in the dark in the back of my van, I'm in, kind of in shock. I'm thinking, uh, whatever this thing is, I don't know if that's, if that's. I mean, at the time, I'm thinking that's what I was looking at in the wood line. But later on, when I think back to it, I think, was that what I saw in the wood line? Or was there more than one of them and the other one was sneaking around the side and trying to get the drop on me?

• 21:55Speaker 05

  Because a lot of times they say with these things, there's usually if you see one, there's more than one of them. Uh, but I didn't think about that at the time. I was only thinking about the one in the wood line. And how, uh, I just narrow narrowly escaped, uh, getting that because that thing was pissed. And I have no doubt that if it had got a hold of me, I would be dead. Like it sounded like it wanted to kill me. It was that angry. Well, I'm sitting there and I'm waiting to see what this thing's gonna do. I don't know if it is it gonna rip the door off my car? I didn't know what was gonna happen. I couldn't hear anything, except for it was raining. It's raining really hard now.

• 22:38Speaker 05

  So I just sat there in the dark and I didn't do nothing. I didn't turn any lights on. Of course, now I have window coverings up in my van, because as soon as I got there, before it got dark, the first thing I did was, and I'm very happy I did this, is I put all my, um, reflectic- reflectics, my window coverings for my van. I had all those in, um, you know, so people can't look in your van when you're trying to be in your van or whatever. Kinda like what the van lifers do. That's how I had my van set up. So I'm sitting there waiting to see what was gonna happen, cuz I'm thinking, you know, I might have to crawl over the, the console and I might have to get in the driver's seat and I might have to drive out of here. If this thing starts trying to, you know,

• 23:23Speaker 05

  wanting to rip the door off my van or something, cuz I don't know what's going on here. Well, I didn't hear anything else. And it started storming and it's raining, so I'm just back there the rest of the night. And as a couple hours go by, um, the rain lets, starts to let up a little bit and, but you could hear, uh, I heard howls, screams, on and off. Uh, you could hear coyotes going off. It was really an active area. And the next morning, Gabe showed up and I told him what happened and him and I went out there to the field and he walked across the field and went out into that wood line to try to do, we were trying to do like a re- a recreation, to try to see,

• 24:07Speaker 05

  like where this place was standing. We wanted to see if it was standing, uh, if it could have been standing on a hill, maybe, or if it was something on a rise or a hill that would make it maybe look like it was taller than what it really was. But, nothing like that. Um, couldn't find any tracks out there. Of course, it was all grassy and everything. Uh, so we did that. And we didn't really come to any conclusions other than the fact that um, the height that I saw this thing at was probably truly the height this thing is, you know, seven or eight feet tall. That was a guess. Then he goes across the road later on.

• 24:53Speaker 05

  And find, that's when we found out across that dirt and gravel road on the other side of the wood line. We found out that there was a whole nother set of woods and apart to this park. And there's a little lake over there and he found tracks. He found some suspicious looking tracks. Some of them had toes in them, you know, they look like the bear. They look, they look like Bigfoot tracks. I mean, you know, you can't say for sure. Until you cast these things and everything, but when he came back to get the stuff to go back and cast them. And he went back the, to cast the one track. It was all scuffed out. Which we thought that was really, really strange because um, there really, there really wasn't a lot of people, you know, in this campground.

• 25:36Speaker 05

  But at this point, there's one other person now that, that shows up to this uh, campground and it was a guy in a tent. And a bicycle. But uh, yeah, I mean, that's, that's pretty much what happened. And then he found, he moved his vehicle. And he found a big clump of hair that he collected. And I, I, I don't know what the hair was. You know, I said, are you sure? You know, how do you know it wasn't horse hair or something? You know, people have, I guess people take horses there. And I talked to the rangers about that. I said, so how, you know, how often do people come here with their, you know, with their horses and

• 26:18Speaker 05

  he said, there's like two times a year that there's these big groups that come there and they, they pretty much take the whole, that whole campground and they all bring their horses and they do it like two times a year. And I said, well, are, is there any other place to camp in this place? Because this is a really, a really big area, you know? He's like, well, they used to have these backpacking campsites, where there were like yurts or something out in the middle of the woods that you could walk into with a backpack, but he said they're all off limits now. And I said, they're off limits. I said, why is that? He said, well, he said, the people that we contracted out to that came in here to put the yurts, it's really their property,

• 27:04Speaker 05

  and the contract expired and they just haven't came and got them out yet. So we really can't allow anybody to camp out there. So as soon as Gabe found that out, he was like, well, we're gonna go find, we're gonna go find one of these campsites. They're talking about, because that whole story sounded weird, you know? Well, we did, we found one of the campsites where supposedly there was supposed to be like a yurt or a tent for people at one time to camp at, and there was like nothing there at all. There was no yurt, there was no tent. But you could tell where at one time there had been something there. So that was, that whole thing was kind of strange.

• 27:44Speaker 05

  Um, I just thought it was strange. The, in the daytime, they come out and they mow the grass there. Like this last time when I went back in July. So I went back there in July for three days and the, the one picture I sent you, uh, where it shows that field, but it's all grown up, that was taken in July. That's what the field looks like now. Um, that's next to that campsite. Seventeen was the campsite number that we stayed on. Um, I can tell you the name of the, the campground. It's, uh, the Highland Recreation Area. And it's in southeast Michigan. Uh, I wanna say it's White, I think it's called White Lake Township.

• 28:25Speaker 05

  If you look at it on a map, you can kind of get an idea of like how big this place is. I kind of feel like, um, I really don't mind that people know where it was at. It doesn't bother me. I think people, I actually think people should be warned. I, I have a lot of different feelings about this than I have about, uh, a lot, uh, most of the places I've been to, like, because this thing, whatever this thing was, it was, I feel like it's a, it, it was dangerous.

• 28:58Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it sounds like it. And I really appreciate you sharing the location. I always leave it up to the witness whether they want to share it or not. And obviously, if it's on people's property, I advise them not to share exactly where it's at. But how far from the wood line was your van when you first saw the, the eyes?

• 29:20Speaker 05

  Well, you know what? I didn't have a yardstick. I wish I had a, I told Gabe, I wish I had a yardstick. He goes, oh, what for? And I said, so I can measure that, like, from where the van was across to that wood line, like, how many actual yards it is? Like, I sent you a picture and you can look at it in the picture, but I can't, I couldn't, you know, it's hard for me to judge. But oh, I can only think of something in yards, like the size of a football field. So I don't know, what would you say if you looked at the picture? I said, I, I texted you some pictures. I don't know if you saw them or not, but, um, I'm, if I had to guess, I would, I would say like maybe 50 yards, like half the length of a football field.

• 30:00Speaker 05

  Like from where my van was parked that night to that wood line, I'm going to guess and say maybe 50 yards. But I was flabbergasted when I told, the next day when Gabe came out and I told Gabe what happened, I said, I, I said, I don't understand how,

• 30:19Speaker 05

  I said, look, I was standing right outside my door. And when I turned around and crawled up into my van, I mean, I have arthritis and stuff, so I'm not like a super fast person anymore. Um, I said, but it only took me maybe two minutes if, to get up into my van and turn around and sit down. I said, I don't understand how that thing, could it came all the way across that field? Like within that time and been right up to my van like that. Like I just, just missed getting grabbed by this thing.

• 30:52Wes Germer?

  Yeah, and I'll post the pictures you sent me, Linda. You know, me looking at them, I would say a football field, maybe a little bit less that wood line was from where you were at. And that's what got me thinking about if there was two of them. I realize these things are fast, but you're already inside the van, closing the door, and this thing's right there screaming at you as you're closing the door. There must have been two of them. I mean, if he was that pissed to come from the wood line, charging you all the way to your van, I don't think he would have stopped it just screaming at you.

• 31:31Speaker 05

  I know. I told, he goes, well, these things are super fast. If that's what, if it was a bigfoot. He said they've been known, you know, people always say that they are supernaturally, they do supernaturally seem to be fast and, and which that's true because I think I seen another one, one night it was a juvenile back when I was out with, that was a different, that was, that was a few years ago, back when Phil Shaw, researcher Phil Shaw was still alive and he was having conferences in West Branch, Michigan. And we went out after a conference, we went to the Rifle River Campground up north there. And we stayed at that campground and we split off into two groups.

• 32:13Speaker 05

  And a group of us took off, this was north of Rose City, Michigan, and a group of us took off, this was around midnight. And we went out into the, some state land and there was like this big square field where you could pull off into this field. And there was a like a little driveway that you could pull into it. And there was like, I don't even know what it was. It was like a big, big silver, like a oil drum or something, or it looked like a place where at one time they might have stored some type of fuel or something because it had like a ladder that went up to this little catwalk. It was like this big drum, but there, I don't think there was anything in it

• 32:55Speaker 05

  at the time. I don't know, but it was state land anyway. But it was a field and the field was probably maybe waist, waist high. And then all where, all around this field on all three sides that there were woods. And the reason we went to this site was because the guy that knew about the site that took us there, he had had some type of experience there before. So, or follow tracks there or something. So, we went there, that's where we went. And I'm pretty sure I saw one that night. Um, and it was running up and down the wood line. And it was so fast that I could only catch it like out the corner of my eye.

• 33:35Speaker 05

  Because what it was doing, it was, it was standing up and it was running down the wood line, like between the field and the wood line. And then it was dropping down underneath the grass, like underneath, so you couldn't see it, like dropping down on its stomach. And I don't know why it was doing that. It only looked like it was maybe five feet tall. It wasn't very big. So, all I could think of was maybe it was a juvenile and it was trying to look at us to, to get a look at us to see what we were doing. So, what happened is the two, the guys had put out one of those game callers. This was my first experience, uh, using one of these game callers. I don't know if you've ever seen one, but you, it's like, uh, I don't know, it's like the size of a little generator or something.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  And they, they take it and they put it out in the woods and then they take it and leave it out there and they have a remote control. They come back. And then they can make this thing play like animals in distress noises. So, so that's what they were doing. And well, they called something in and it was on the other side of this field and it kept getting up and it would run down and then it would go down. It would get up, it would run the wood line again, back the other way, and then it would go down. And every time I would turn my head to look directly at this thing. And when I told the other, the, the other people about it that were with me that night, nobody could see it. I said, "You've gotta be really fast." I said, "Turn your head, but try to watch like out the corner of your eye." I said, "You'll see it. It'll pop up and it'll run."

• 35:03Speaker 05

  Like, it was just so fast. It was unbelievably fast. Like, I had really no clue just how fast these things were until I saw that that night. That kinda like, I mean, I've heard about it, but until you really see it yourself, you don't. You know, you really, you don't, you don't have an idea. All these things are so fast. It's just unbelievable. So I told Gabe, I said, either that thing was just so unnaturally fast. I said, or maybe there was another one. And that whole time I was out there, the other one was like coming around, you know, like working its way around to try to get the drop on me. Yeah, they almost got me too.

• 35:47Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I was gonna ask you that because I know you're out there all the time. I see your posts on Facebook and is there a particular area or property that you go to all the time? Or is it random?

• 36:00Speaker 05

  Well, sometimes it's random, but there we do have some areas that we go to all the time. I have an area that we've been going to for over five years now. And there's probably, hmm, there's probably at least like seven or eight people that I know of that go to this area, other people. Between all of the people that I know of that go there, we've, we've, we've found tracks. We've gotten vocals there. Um, there's been some sightings there. Now, the old sighting that I heard about was there was one, I guess there was one crossing the road and it had a deer on its back. And this was a local person. I don't think it was a researcher that saw it. It was like one of the local people that lived there.

• 36:45Speaker 05

  And I have a friend that, um, her and her husband lived there. He goes out sometimes with us. His name was Todd, my friend Todd. And Todd's wife grew up there. And she told me the local people that live there, they've known for years about these things. And these things have been there for years. And they just call them the wild people of the woods. And I said, well, what do you, what does that mean, the wild people of the woods? Like, are they saying that they're just people that live in the woods? Or what are they, what do they mean by that? She said, they're just, they're just like, no, she said, I mean, she said they're Bigfoots, but they just, they don't call them Bigfoots.

• 37:27Speaker 05

  They just, like, the older, the older generation of people that live in that town and that area, she said, they just call them the wild people of the woods. And I said, okay. I said, so that kind of tells me that these things have been there. Like, I think they've been there for a long time. I mean, who knows if it's the same ones or not, you know? Um, I'll tell you, I sent you, and I, I tried to get on my computer so I could find the original file. It was on my laptop and I can't find it. But, um, I had, I was there one night by myself. I went there on a weekend by myself and this was like on my birthday weekend.

• 38:08Speaker 05

  And so it would have been like the last, I think it was the last weekend in March. My birthday is March twenty ninth. So I went there one weekend and I went by myself. I didn't tell, I took my thermal, I didn't tell anybody I was going. I didn't tell Gabe I was going. Um, I didn't even tell Todd I was coming there. He, he lives there. Like I said, with his wife, I didn't tell anybody I was going to this area. And at that time, I was driving a different vehicle. I had my black Ford Escape. It was the same vehicle that I've been using, had been using for the last couple of years in the same area. And I went there, it was about midnight and I was backed up to this big field that's surrounded by woods.

• 38:52Speaker 05

  And I got a thermal capture. I'm sitting on the driver's side and I have my window down and I'm thermaling out my driver's window. And I'm thermaling across this field and on the other side of this field, there's a wood line where these really, really big trees are at. Now, I've already been, mind you, I've already been all over that place in the daytime. Like, I've already been through there at night. I've been through there, you know, with my friends in the daytime, and my other researchers, we've been in there. Um, so I'm kind of familiar with this whole area by now. And I'm thermaling this wood line, and I get five hits up in these trees. I've, I got five green crosses.

• 39:35Speaker 05

  Well, according to the, the book that came with my thermal, this is the first thermal I ever got. So, I'm not, you know, really tech savvy person. But what happens is when you start to get a heat signature, at first, you're gonna get like these little green crosses, and it's basically like, you know that there's something there, but it's not close enough for you to get like a full-on heat signature. So I've got five green crosses and each one is in a different tree. And I'm thinking, okay, this is weird. So now I've got five objects in five different trees. And I'm thinking, oh, well, they're just sitting in these trees, they're not doing nothing. And I'm thinking, well, maybe it's raccoons, or maybe it's just possums, or whatever.

• 40:19Speaker 05

  So I waited and I waited. I'm not a very patient person. Finally, I'm thinking, you know, I'm just gonna get out of my car and I'm just gonna walk across this field and I'm gonna go see what this, what this is. Because nothing's going on, it's really quiet out, there's no cars, there's no other people in the area. Nothing's going on, and I'm just sitting here. So, just when I think that, as I have this thought in my head that I'm gonna get out of my car, I'm watching, and all of a sudden, all five of these things drop out of these trees. And when I say they drop, I mean, they just like dropped out. They didn't like shimmy down the tree, they literally jumped out of these trees.

• 41:01Speaker 05

  And those trees are huge. So, right out the bat, I'm thinking, okay, well, that was not people. Because if those were people, they would, they probably would've just broke their legs, or something. Because these trees are huge over there that they just jumped out of. So I'm watching and one by one, these things all come out of the woods and they're on the wood line. And now they're all walking single file and they're coming around the wood line and they're coming toward me. And where I'm backed up to this field at, there's a road and then there's the wood line in between the road and the field. And they're coming toward me, but they're staying inside the woods, inside the wood line that's alongside of the road.

• 41:46Speaker 05

  And I'm waiting and I'm waiting and now I'm getting, now I'm starting to get a hit on my thermal, like I'm starting to get more of a heat signature. While the last heat signature I got, it looked like one was down on the ground, like maybe on its belly or something. And at this point, they're like halfway to me where I'm sitting in my car. Um, I'm nervous. I'm thinking, you know, I got this voice in my head saying, uh, I think you need to leave. Uh, maybe I should leave and I, and you know, right now I'm at war with myself. Am I gonna stay? Am I gonna get out of here? Am I, am I, or am I gonna stay? Because isn't this what I came here for?

• 42:29Speaker 05

  So I decided I would just stay and I'm watching and then all of a sudden it was quiet. They disappeared and I don't know what happened. And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, okay, now where did they go? Well, then I started really kind of freaking out because I'm thinking, now I don't know where they're at and I don't know what they're up to. Because they just went into the woods and they were coming at me, but now I don't see anything. Well, then all of a sudden, across the road from where I parked in the woods on the other side of the road, I hear a deer start screaming. So what had happened is they crossed the road and they went into the woods over there. And now they're over there, they're killing a deer.

• 43:11Speaker 05

  And the deer is screaming and I know it was a deer because I've heard, I've heard coyotes kill a deer before. So I know what it sounds like when a, when a deer screams. Uh, yeah, it was quite, quite the experience. So the deer is screaming, they're killing a deer. And the deer stopped screaming and then all of a sudden everything's quiet again.

• 43:32Speaker 05

  And I don't know what's going on. I'm like, and I'm just waiting because nothing's happening and I don't see anything. And I didn't see anybody coming out of the woods. You know, I didn't see anything coming out of the woods. You know, because at this point, I'm thinking, what are they gonna do now? Because I feel like I interrupted a hunt. And are they gonna be upset with me because I interrupted their hunt? Because I feel like that's probably what it was. I'm, I'm in my head. I don't know what's going on. I'm, I'm thinking. Okay, because if that was, if, if that was people coming out of those trees, then it had to have been. Like people using like, what do you call it? Re- repelling equipment?

• 44:12Speaker 05

  Like they would have had to like repel or something to get out of those trees without breaking their legs. And why would people be in the woods like that and then come over here and then go kill a deer like that? Because there was no gunshots. So whatever killed the deer. Obviously, it didn't use a gun or anything because there was no gunshots or anything like that. Um, there are no other cars or vehicles in the area. When I went and parked there because I drove up and down the road before I parked. So I checked. So I'm sitting there watching and I've got my thermal and I, and I decide, okay, I'm gonna put the strap of my thermal around my wrist. I put the, the strap of my thermal around my left hand, my left wrist.

• 44:56Speaker 05

  And I still kind of, I'm still, I, I still have it kind of up in the window. And I'm just waiting for something to happen. And I'm just sitting there and I'm sitting there and then all of a sudden, I just like blacked out. Like I don't know what happened and I can't explain it. This, this is the part that drives me crazy. Because I feel like I blacked out or I passed out or something happened or I just fell asleep. Now, I really find it hard to believe that I would just fall asleep when something like that was going on. So, it, the whole thing is suspicious as far as falling asleep. Um, like I said, I work midnights and I shouldn't have just fell asleep.

• 45:41Speaker 05

  Not, not right after the deer was killed, you know? So anyway, I came to, when I came to, everything was still quiet. And my window was still down. I still had my thermal was around my wrist. And all of a sudden, I get this voice in my head. You need to leave the area now.

• 46:03Speaker 05

  And that was it. And I just thought, okay, I'm just gonna leave. Because I don't see anything. Um, I pull forward in my car. I still have my thermal up and, you know, I still have my hand like up in the window. Still, my car and I, my thermal's still on. And I kinda just was holding it up there and I pulled forward and I stopped and then I turned, I turned right and I left. When I left, instead of turning left toward what, where that was all going on, I turned right. And I left and left that way. Later, come to find out later, I took my thermal, um, my, this was like a month later. I took, uh, my thermal to, uh, Todd's house.

• 46:48Speaker 05

  To, for Todd, because Gabe, uh, Gabe's like, you need to dump your thermal and see what was, see what you got on your thermal. And I took it to Todd because I'm not a tech savvy person and Todd knows more about computers and stuff. So Todd and I went in his basement and we were dumping my thermal and that, that, um, thermal capture of the one walking down the side of the road and stuff, that was on my thermal and it was from that night. Uh, and you can see there's one on the side of the road, on my side of the road where I was parked. There's one coming down the side of the road. There's one across the road and it's down on all fours and it's looking around.

• 47:29Speaker 05

  Like you can, you can tell that's what it is. If you know anything about these things. Um, and their body, and I know you do, you know what these things look like and you know about their body. Like their body structures. Like these, like the one across the road, I call that one, I call him the football player. He's down on all fours, no neck to speak of. His, his arms and shoulders are huge. The one on the side of the road looks really super tall, but it doesn't look like the one on all fours. It doesn't have, like it's big, but it doesn't look as big. But I'm looking at the thermal capture and then down, down the road, it looks like there's one coming through the, out of the ditch.

• 48:12Speaker 05

  On either side of the road, I'm thinking, one, two, three, four. Okay, that's four, what, that's four, what happened to the fifth one? Because when this all started, there was five of these things. That dropped out of those trees. So I can't account. For the fifth one, I don't know where the fifth one went. That night or what it was doing. But in my thermal capture, I see four. Of what I believe are four big, I truly believe are four bigfoots. And the one that's on my side of the road that's coming toward me. Um, I call him the roadside creeper because he's, he's walking down the roadside and he's coming at me. Um, Gabe. Took, took it and super like somehow with his computer like superimposed himself like next. Next to this thing to try to.

• 48:56Speaker 05

  Um, see how big this thing was really, like to get a. Ideal. So. We went out to do a recreation and. Took his picture. Todd and I took pictures of Gabe standing down there where, where we thought this thing was in my thermal. So after taking pictures of Gabe down there and then giving him the pictures. He took the pictures of himself standing down there, somehow he superimposed himself. Next to this. Thing. Uh, that's walking towards me of what I believe is a, is a bigfoot walking towards me. And put himself next to it to try to get an idea of how big or how tall this thing really was. And this was Adam Davies. Ideal to do this.

• 49:38Speaker 05

  When I showed Adam Davies, my thermal capture. Adam, he said, you need to like try to do a recreation and so you can see how big this thing really was. Well, this thing was a full, probably two feet or more taller than Gabe. It's this thing's shoulders had to have been like three to four feet wide, which you can't, you can't tell that by looking. Like in my thermal. Um, the one that's walking, I'm talking about the one that's upright walking. Until he put himself next to this thing.

• 50:13Speaker 05

  This thing is massive, like totally massive, unbelievable. There's absolutely no way that these things could have been people walking down the road. Another researcher from West Virginia saw my thermal and he said, oh, it's a person in a T-shirt. Uh, no, it's not a person in a T-shirt. So when I first saw the thermal capture, I thought to myself, what is going on here? This whole thing looks supernatural. It looks paranormal. I don't understand what's going on here. Um, why does this look like? Why does my thermal look like this? How come I've not seen, um, full blown like heat, heat signatures? If these things are real and they're a real live, living thing,

• 50:59Speaker 05

  why, why does it look the way it does? I don't understand what's going on here. No, nobody knew, nobody could figure that out. Well, I took it to a conference over in Benton Harbor, uh, Michigan. And that area, there was a conference. You know who Robert Kreider is with Kreider Exploration?

• 51:17Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I know Robert.

• 51:19Speaker 05

  Uh, Robert builds these thermals. He builds thermals. He builds listening devices. Um, he's a very smart, very, very smart, intelligent guy. Um, he knows about that type of equipment and stuff. He's been doing this for a long time. Well, I showed it to him to try to get his opinion on this to, to see if he could explain to me why my thermal looked the way it does, like the colors and everything. And it, it didn't look right. It didn't look like what I thought it should have looked like. So my thermal settings were not set right on my thermal. He said, your thermal settings are not set right. He said, and then he was showing me like the heat signature, uh, in the road.

• 52:02Speaker 05

  You can see some red, like in the road where the heat, like the road was thrown off, still throwing off heat. But anyway, he said, the settings in your thermal are not set right. He said, that's why it looks the way it does. He said, I've been, uh, I've been after these things or I've been studying these things for, I think he said over 20 years or something. He said, and I know what these things look like. He said, and I'm going to tell you right now. He said, that's a Bigfoot. Oh, okay. Well, I was glad I got an opinion. I mean, I was glad somebody could tell me what was going on uh with this thermal because it didn't look right. It didn't look like, you know, what a thermal uh capture should look like. You know, when you look at a a heat signature, um

• 52:48Speaker 05

  if you see a person in a thermal and you see their heat signature, you're pretty much like, let's say if you have the setting, like if you're red, red, I think it's called, you either have a red, a fusion, or you have a black, black hot. Like if you have it set on red hot, you should, their whole body, right? You would think their whole body would be like red pretty much when you get a heat signature in a thermal. Well, this mine's not, mine didn't come out like that. It's really creepy looking. I'll try to send it to you again. If I can find it, I'll try to send you the original file.

• 53:21Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I would love to see them. And Robert's a good guy to ask, you know, as far as the technical side of some of the different equipment people use. Uh, and he's a good guy to ask for advice from too. Uh, the voice that you heard, was it your voice?

• 53:39Speaker 05

  I don't feel like it was my voice, but I mean, I can't, I, this is, this is what really irritates me about this whole thing. I'm like a flesh and blood, um evidence type of researcher type person. Like I believe these things, I really do believe these things are flesh and blood. They leave physical evidence behind. They, they leave tracks. I do think they're su, I do think they are, definitely they are um supernatural. Which supernatural is not the same thing as paranormal. That's two different words. I think these things are supernaturally fast. I think they're very, very smart. I think they're intelligent. Um, which none of those things are paranormal.

• 54:23Speaker 05

  But this whole thing with the voice in my head, I can't explain that. Uh, because I don't know, I can't say, well, maybe it was, it didn't feel like it was my own voice. So I don't, I feel like, well, maybe it was my guardian angel. I mean, if you're a religious person and you believe in angels, maybe it was my guardian angel saying, you need to leave, or was it these things telling me you need to leave the area now? Because they didn't want me there because they had just killed a deer. And maybe they were in the woods and they wanted to direct that deer out and they didn't want me to see it. I don't know. I can't explain any of that. It, it kind of ruins the whole thing. Because I get this, this physical stuff, you know, on thermal and it's something you can see with your eyes.

• 55:07Speaker 05

  But then I hear this crap in my head. So it kinda, it kinda ruins the whole, you know, it kinda bums me out, but that's what happened. I'm, and I'm not gonna, um, you know, I'm not gonna say it didn't happen or not talk about it to make other researchers happy that strictly

• 55:31Speaker 05

  refuse to believe that there's anything, you know, uh, paranormal or anything about these things. Because they're just flesh and blood. They're just animals. You know, they're just a great ape. You know, I, I respect that. If that's your opinion, that's fine. But I truly am starting to think maybe there's more to these things than meets the eye.

• 55:53Wes Germer?

  Yeah. And I really appreciate you sharing that portion of the encounter, Linda. I know a lot of times Bigfoot researchers will leave that out. They won't talk about what you just talked about. And I think it's a little disingenuous. And I don't know why they do it. I, I think that they somewhere, a lot of these Bigfoot researchers think that when this creature becomes public and everyone knows it's out there, scientists are going to be waiting in the wings with open arms to, you know, give them a big hug and ask them about all their knowledge on these creatures and talking about anything weird might mess that up. And it's delusional thinking.

• 56:34Wes Germer?

  There's no scientists waiting in the wings to give Bigfoot researchers a big hug and bring them in. And as someone who investigates this subject, I would rather just know what, tell me what happened. I don't care how crazy it is. Just tell me what happened and. Um, so I really do appreciate the fact that you had that mentality. And I've known you for years. I know that you worked nights and I think you're actually awake more than you sleep. Um, and I just don't see you falling asleep in that moment. What do you think happened with you passing out?

• 57:08Speaker 05

  When I came to, I felt groggy, like I kind of, when I came to, I felt like my head wasn't all put together. Like I felt like I had been kind of like I, like almost like I had been drugged or something. Which, I, I didn't feel like, uh, you know how you feel when you first wake up and you really need a cup of coffee? Like if you drink coffee and you haven't got your coffee yet? But you're supposed to be thinking about what you're gonna do next and stuff, but your head is not like all there. It's kind of fuzzy. That, that's what I felt like. But it didn't make sense. So I'm, I'm, I'm looking at the time and I'm thinking,

• 57:48Speaker 05

  what happened? Like, I knew where I was at. I knew, I knew where I was at. I knew what was going on. Like, I mean, I, I, I remembered everything that had happened up until that point to where everything was to where I just like blacked out or whatever. And I looked at the time and whatever happened, I wasn't out for very long because it looked like maybe only not even an hour had passed. It wasn't even an hour. So maybe a half hour? So maybe I was out for maybe a half hour, if even that. None of that makes any sense to me. The only thing I can think of is they hit me with infrasound

• 58:32Speaker 05

  and put me out. So they could come out of the woods because they wanted to come out and do whatever they did. Who knows? Dragged that deer out. They could have very easily gotten that deer out. Took the deer through the woods and then took it across the road, down the road where I would have never, you know, where I couldn't see it.

• 58:52Speaker 05

  You know, if they don't want to be seen, you're not going to see these things.

• 58:57Wes Germer?

  Yeah, be careful, will you? It's troublesome. I think that it could be infrasound. But I think with infr- if you're hit with that hard of a frequency of infrasound, I'm not so sure you'd been able to drive out of there after waking up. And it's troublesome, for me anyway, to hear stuff like that. And I really appreciate you including it in your testimony because, like I was saying earlier, a lot of researchers will just skip over that part because it sounds too crazy to even talk about. So they won't talk about that portion. And you do. And, you know, I don't know if these things are paranormal or not. And I know you're very much into the flesh and blood.

• 59:41Wes Germer?

  But for me, I just feel like there's something more is going on here than what we realize.

• 59:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think I'm starting to think so too. Yeah, the whole mind speak type situation thing. Because what happened to me out at that farm, you know, at the farm field gate, when I got the thermal capture, I feel like that could have been what they call mind speak. I mean, I don't know if that's what it was. But like, I can't explain that and I can't explain the whole, like, the missing, short missing time and blackout type thing or falling asleep thing. I can't explain what happened there. I can't explain why I didn't see those things on my thermal, like with my naked eye, like, at the present time. Like, why am I going back now and finding it?

• 1:00:31Speaker 05

  You know, the recording of it, but why didn't I see it at the time? I can't explain any of that. So I don't know what happened.

• 1:00:39Wes Germer?

  Be careful out there. I worry about you going out there and I know you're a big girl, you can take care of yourself, but definitely be careful. And I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and and share what happened to you, Linda. It's been too long and thank you again for coming on.

• 1:00:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, sure, anytime.

• 1:01:00Wes Germer?

  Thanks again, Linda. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

• 1:01:34Speaker 06

  I'm blind.

• 1:01:41Speaker 06

  And red clothes.

• 1:01:49Speaker 06

  Treading on broken glass, feeling the weight of dark, looking for a white star.

• 1:02:03Speaker 06

  I'm fine.

• 1:02:10Speaker 06

  I'm a liar.

• 1:02:18Speaker 06

  In a peculiar state of mind, traveling back in time, I wanna be a white star.

• 1:02:33Speaker 06

  I don't care if I die, even if my friends let me die.

• 1:02:52Speaker 06

  I go head in my day Moving back with ten and high

• 1:03:01Speaker 06

  Oh oh

• 1:03:09Speaker 06

  I'm lightning

• 1:03:17Speaker 06

  Stood at the speed of sound, ready to leave the ground, looking like a white star

• 1:03:31Speaker 06

  I go head in my day Moving back with ten and high

• 1:03:46Speaker 06

  I go head in my day Moving back with ten and high

• 1:04:46Speaker 06

  How come you guys, how come you guys do everything upside down?

• 1:04:52Speaker 06

  Okay, next slide, drift in like this, slowly, okay?