SC EP:1154 Strange Experiences While Hunting

Tonight I am going to chat with 3 individuals, all hunters and all of them have experienced something they cannot explain while hunting. Joe who is from Ohio had a strange experience while hunting. Ross who is also an experienced hunter writes "I recently picked up my bow to go hunting for whitetail after about a 15 year hiatus. I have moved to Columbia SC from NC . But I was raised in the mountains of West Virginia. We're I was hunting in SC was part of the urban hunting that was provided almost in the city right on the outskirts I had moved to a apartment and found 15 acres were there were at least 6 deer on it . 4 does and two bucks was what I have seen . Now this was last October. I was hunting from the ground and I had 4 does run by me very spooked and then 3 of those deer ran back by me . As I was sitting there I noticed that there was what I thought was a wild hog on the ground about 50 yards away from me. As I struggled to see what it was ,looking back I believe this animal was fazing into our reality. Then we will wrap up with Ryan who is from Oregon. Ryan describes hearing what sounded like people talking but could not figure who or what it was. In the same area he describes seeing this ball of light that was 20 feet across go down into the canyon.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:03Speaker 00

  It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that, that shocked me. They don't make people that, that big.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  They were screaming at each other in gibberish.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw bears.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  911, what are you reporting?

• 1:16Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ, you better... Sir? See ya!

• 1:19Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 1:20Speaker 03

  Get somebody out here!

• 1:22Speaker 02

  What's going on now, sir?

• 1:23Speaker 03

  That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know.

• 1:26Speaker 02

  Do you see him now, sir?

• 1:27Speaker 03

  Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh.

• 1:38Speaker 04

  This is Cameron from Queensland and you are now listening to Sasquatch Chronicles.

• 2:23Wes Germer?

  Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. You know, there's many encounters or experiences that people have when it comes to Sasquatch, where they don't actually see the creature. And sometimes those are more terrifying than when people actually see them. But I've taken many phone calls over the years and I've talked to hunters. And a lot of the conversation goes like this, like what you're gonna hear tonight. And it's these types of experiences to where hunters can't really chalk it up to a bear or a cougar or just very odd things that have happened to them. And we'll be chatting with Joe. He comes to us from Ohio.

• 3:08Wes Germer?

  He had this very strange experience out there in 2008. Ross, who is from South Carolina, had a very recent incident happen to him. And then we'll kind of wrap up with Ryan from Oregon. And he's had three separate things that happened to him, including seeing this huge ball of light, probably the biggest one I've ever heard of out there in Oregon. So get ready for some strange experiences from hunters. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com.

• 3:50Wes Germer?

  You can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Ross to the show. Ross, thanks for coming on.

• 4:02Speaker 06

  No problem. Thanks for having me.

• 4:04Wes Germer?

  Yeah, and you had this very weird experience out there in Ohio. Take me back to 2008. What were you doing and what happened?

• 4:13Speaker 06

  Okay, in July of two thousand twenty-three, I moved to Columbia, South Carolina. I'm originally from West Virginia. I grew up hunting and fishing in the mountains. Hollers, you know, no black bears and whitetail and boar and coyotes and all the critters is out there, you know, very familiar with them. Um, in October of that year, um, we moved in some apartments outside of Columbia. And I noticed there was fifteen acres of land beside the apartments. So I applied for a urban hunting permit. And they approved it. So I got a crossbow and started hunting the area.

• 4:59Speaker 06

  In October of that year, um, I went in, it was an evening hunt. I went in there like three o'clock and was sitting down. And I hadn't been there probably thirty minutes. And I'd put out a bag of corn the day before and it was gone that day. You know, it's like a thirty pound bag or whatever you get from Walmart. It was gone that day. I was like, wow, there's something in here really eating that that corn. So I looked over and three deer, four deer run past me. And the way the land's set up, it's like a, a road and there's a power line right away and there's three patches of woods, woods, and I was sitting in the power line right away. And four deer run past me and they run through the power line right away and run into the

• 5:43Speaker 06

  patch of woods that's in front of me. And then three immediately run back out. The fourth deer never come out. I sit there for a minute and there was moving so fast I couldn't get my, my crossbow up. But I looked over and I seen what I thought was a hog at the time, but it was translucent. It was, you know, like, looked like the predator. It was see-through when it was down on all fours. By the time it had moved in front of me and stood up, it was, looked like the, the electric man, the, the tags that you see on the old electric cords with the, you know, the blackout line with the little sharp edges is what it looked like. It's probably about seven and a half foot tall. Um, I couldn't see no details as far as facial

• 6:25Speaker 06

  features or hands. It just looked like, almost like, uh, uh, what you would think a phantom would look like, you know, but it was hunting the deer, you know, the deer was herded past me, you know, thinking back, the deer's run right by me and then they immediately run back by us. So I believe that the patch of woods they run in, there was another one in there and it had obviously captured one of them because it never come back out. And I'm like, oh my God, what is that? You know, I didn't know what it was. And I was sitting there with my crossbow raised up at it and I finally let my crossbow down. It seemed like I turned the, I waved my hand at it, you know, like, am I really

• 7:04Speaker 06

  seeing this? And it stood there for a few seconds and then I heard a bard owl go off in the distance and then it waved its hand at me and then it took off. But in the meantime of all that happening, um, I'm like, what the hell is this thing doing here? I'm thinking this in my mind. And I guess what they call mind speak, I got this thought that it said outward, there's two abandoned buildings on the property. It said, I'm here, we're headed toward the coast and we're staying in these abandoned buildings is all I got. And, um, I was pretty shook up. I'm actually, you know, shaking right now thinking about it. But I went and got some coconut cookies that had been

• 7:47Speaker 06

  sitting on the counter for like a month and put them out there and the next day it was gone. And the only thing I can figure is the four deer that run past me, there had to have been another one in there hunting and the three that run back, you know, it killed the, the fourth one and the three that run back was, was, uh, the ones that survived, I guess.

• 8:09Wes Germer?

  The voice that you described hearing, was it your voice you're hearing?

• 8:14Speaker 06

  No, it was, it wasn't, wasn't so much a voice. It was like a thought, you know, like.

• 8:22Speaker 06

  It was, you know, the thought, I'm like, what the hell is these things doing here? What's this thing doing here? And then it was like, I'm here, we're, we're traveling toward the coast and we're staying in development, abandoned buildings. That's all I got.

• 8:36Wes Germer?

  It's a very strange account, but I hear accounts like this from hunters off the air often, but most of the time they'll say, you know, I don't know what it was, but they'll describe basically what you're describing, even the mind speak, which is concerning because I've had many prominent people on the show that have experienced that. This area where this happened to you, have you been back there hunting?

• 9:02Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, I walk back, back there all the time. It's like I said, it's within walking distance of my house and you know, I don't, I don't see anything when I go back there or get any weird feelings. It's just one of them things I can't explain, but it, you know, it sure shook me up.

• 9:21Wes Germer?

  Yeah, would shake me up too. What was kind of your whole take on Bigfoot before this happened?

• 9:28Speaker 06

  I've been like a hunter my whole life. I've never seen one of these things. I'm like, man, there's nothing to this, you know, people are, are just seeing bears or something, you know, but after I seen this, I really believe that, that there is something out there that we can't explain. It's more spiritual, you know, the people like some of the finding Bigfoot guys always say that they're apes. They're not apes, you know, they can't, this thing was phasing in and out of our reality. It was translucent, you know, you could not, you could see the outline, you could see through it, but you could see the outline of it. And no animal that I've ever seen could do that. Um, my opinion is there either Nephilim or there's something that we don't even know

• 10:11Speaker 06

  about, you know, that could be something that we've never, that nobody's ever documented or was no history beside the, the natives always talked about Bigfoot and Sasquatch and, you know, have all these paintings and history of them. So I think they're spiritual. I think, you know, they can be in our dimension and they're physical when they're here, but they can actually go into another dimension as far as, you know, that's why you'll find tracks in the snow leading and then they'll just stop. I mean, how can you explain that?

• 10:50Wes Germer?

  And I've had the predator described to me many times from eyewitnesses. In fact, a couple episodes ago, I played a clip from a cop that I had on and he saw it and it and it was kind of like what you were saying, except for when it took off, he could actually see it was one of these creatures or appeared to be one of these creatures. But before that, he was describing the predator type look, you know, like water in the air. Makes you wonder what in the world is going, what is going on? Because this does get reported often and it's like, I don't, I don't know what that is. I know we talked prior to you coming on the air and you had said this was the only thing that happened. Maybe, maybe they were just kind of passing through the area?

• 11:35Wes Germer?

  It's hard to say.

• 11:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Cause there's really, I mean, there's woods that connect it, but there's houses all over the place. I mean, you know, in West Virginia, y'all would, I would think you'd see a big foot there. But here in Columbia, I mean, it's city, there's patches of woods, but you know, it's not deep woods where you think one of these things would be.

• 11:57Wes Germer?

  Well, I'm so glad they came on Ross, because like I said, you know, and I told you this offline, I get a lot of reports like this, man, where hunters will see this and it's like, I'm not really sure what I saw. I've had hunters tell me, I think it was an alien. I think it was a ghost. I think it was, and it's hard to say, because what they're describing is pretty much what you're describing. And I think you kind of hit on the head, there's more out there than we realize. And a lot of times when I ask hunters to come on and share it, they'll go, no, because they don't know what happened. They don't know what it was and it's so uncomfortable. A lot of

• 12:38Wes Germer?

  people won't come forward and share it. So I'm really glad that you did Ross and I can't thank you enough for taking the time to come on and share the strange experience.

• 12:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, no problem, Wes.

• 13:07Wes Germer?

  Next up on the show, I want to welcome Joe. Joe, thanks for being here.

• 13:12Speaker 07

  Yeah, thanks for having me.

• 13:13Wes Germer?

  Yeah, you had this encounter back in 2008 in Ohio. Prior to this strange experience when you were out there hunting, what was kind of your thoughts on Sasquatch?

• 13:26Speaker 07

  Um, before the encounter, and I must, I must be clear, it was an encounter, not a sighting, but it was pretty intense for what it was. Um, I had, I wasn't, uh, I wasn't negative towards it or positive towards it. I wouldn't have thought anybody was crazy for thinking something like that. But then again, I, you know, I never gave it a whole lot of thought. It was always interesting, but I never gave it a bunch of thought. Um, I got into, I've always been an outdoorsman, bow hunted, fished, you know, bird, dog hunted, you know, pheasant, turkey, whatever. And I was going to get into coon hunting at the time.

• 14:08Speaker 07

  And I don't know, um, how much you know about coon hunting, but, uh, the dogs, they go for some pretty big money. When you get into, you know, that type of commitment. And a guy I know ended up having a, a dog and I wanted one. I was all in. I'm like, I'm just going to buy it. He's like, no, no, no. He said, come out, we'll go hunting.

• 14:34Speaker 07

  And then if you like her, buy her. If you don't, no hard feelings, you know, you can do what you want to do. So.

• 14:43Speaker 07

  We, we met, um, here in town and we drove out to East Branch Tribute Area at Baroque State Park. And it's several thousands of acres. Uh, and the road branches off, goes back in a ways to a couple of houses way at the end of this road. But there was a road that cut up off to the left and in this field was nothing but a pump jack for a oil well. And he had hunted there a few times. And so that's where we went to, to turn her loose and see what she would do. Well, I can't, I can't.

• 15:24Speaker 07

  Be positive on this or not, but I thought when we shut the vehicle off, there was a sharp whistle that you could hear from inside the car. And I kind of thought that was strange, but never gave it much thought. We got out, we turned the dogs loose. Now it was me, Scott and Bill and Bill's son Tyler. They don't, I won't mention their last names because they're,

• 15:50Speaker 07

  they are, uh, they are over it. They are not, you know, they want nothing to do with what happened. And we turned the dogs loose. There was five dogs. One dog had a tracking collar on it. At this time, an O eight, it would have been like an analog type, not the new digital GPS. I have a Garmin for my dog now and it tells you where it was two years ago. And, uh, we turned them loose and you were standing there, turned the lights off and we're just listening for the dogs and you know, eventually they fall tree and you walk to them and find out what you got. Well, uh, this

• 16:33Speaker 07

  scream let out and I can't, I can't mimic it. Can't, I mean, can't really describe what it was other than it was

• 16:44Speaker 07

  very forceful and very horrifying sounding. And I, it seemed like the first scream that happened was directed towards us. Now keep in mind, you're standing there in the dark, headlights off. Nobody's talking. Nobody wants to, uh, register what's going on. And at this time, we're looking at each other like, nah, I don't know. I mean, what, what could do that, you know? Well, then it happened again.

• 17:17Speaker 07

  Well, the dogs start barking, but not at what made that sound. They're all down there treed and you know, when they're treed, you go to them. We were supposed to go to them. It screamed again, so there's three total screams and this time it screamed at the dogs. Well, from the time that it screamed at the dogs to the time that it stopped, whatever this scream was, took off left to right towards the dogs, not coming at us, it was running to the dogs. And

• 17:59Speaker 07

  it covered so much ground so fast in the dark. Your brain's trying to process like, what the hell can run in the dark that fast? With no light, without any direction, just through the timber. And it was bipedal. I mean, ungulates sound different, things with four legs, we have horses. They sound different when they run and then you can hear the weight of a horse when it runs. And it ran right to left, or I'm sorry, left to right, very heavy footsteps, um, breaking branches, thrashing, bashing, straight to the dogs go silent.

• 18:46Speaker 07

  And we aren't going in there, it's not happening. Uh, wasn't, you know, everybody at the time, they're like, oh, it was probably a black bear or a bobcat. Let's, let's be serious here. Uh, they don't cause that kind of carnage in their line of travel. And, uh, we weren't going in, so we got back in the cars, headed back down to the road. And as I mentioned in the beginning of the story, one of the dogs had a tracking collar on.

• 19:17Speaker 07

  It wasn't working real well. Couldn't find the dogs. We drove up and down the roads, maybe trying to hear them bark. Um, again, wasn't happening. And in one of the passes up the road. I caught uh the reflective collars, they they reflect on the on the dogs that they wear. And it caught in the headlight real quick, just a just a glimmer of reflection of a bright orange collar. And all five dogs. Were wadded up in a thirty six inch diameter culvert, running under the road. And would not come out. I had to reach in and pull each dog out by their neck. To get them out and they were digging.

• 20:01Speaker 07

  They did not want to come out of there. So whatever. Ran from us to them. Forced them all into that culvert. And they weren't willing to come out of there. I mean, you know, guides use walker and plot dogs and black and tan coon hounds to hunt bears, mountain lions. There's not much that. Five of them are afraid of, especially when you get them together. And they would not come out of that culvert. So we got them out. And we left. Well, they ate at me for a couple of days and. Good friend of mine and myself went. Back up there.

• 20:43Speaker 07

  In the daylight, I'm talking like nine in the morning. So you know that there's plenty of daylight left. And uh. We go in. And you can see where something had ran in a single file line. Down the side of that hill in in direction that the dogs were in. Limbs snapped, branches broke, um. Big impressions, one in front of the other. Uh, just running down the hill now.

• 21:14Speaker 07

  You could see, you know, into the dirt that it was a foot shape. Now I didn't. Stick around long enough to. See if they had five toes or two toes or whatever. I was and, you know. It was good enough for me. I was getting out of there. But.

• 21:32Speaker 07

  Fast forward, um, probably four years after that. There was a, uh, Bigfoot thing that like it that came to the, I don't know. Uh, they set up and you told your stories and whatever.

• 21:50Speaker 07

  And this guy that was telling the story, uh, that was holding the, the meeting type thing was actually writing a book. And he, you know, they ask you if anybody had any encounters, whatever. I said, yeah, I have raised my hand and he's like, okay, tell us your story. And I told him exactly what I told you. And he, uh, for lack of a better term, it's like he tried to put words in my mouth. He's like, so what did it smell like when you, when you, when you had this encounter? I'm like, I didn't smell anything. Are you positive you didn't smell anything? I'm like, I didn't even see anything, Tech. I was like, but this was what happened.

• 22:32Speaker 07

  And he was wanting to put his, um, put my story in his book and I didn't care. I was okay with it, you know, but he never did send me a copy of the book and I can't for the life of me, remember his name or the name of the book, but he, he kept trying to embellish it and he actually called me about a week or so after that little town hall meeting type thing. Kept trying to add things to the story and I'm like, listen, man, I, I'm upfront with you. I told you what happened. I mean, it might lack the razzle dazzle that some stories have, but that's the way that it happened. And, uh, I never did hear from him again after that. I never did get a copy of the book either.

• 23:15Wes Germer?

  Yeah, that's too bad. It kind of sums up most of the, uh, Bigfoot world though. It's always the guys sort of like, oh, this guy's a liar, this guy's a hoaxer, this guy's whatever. Uh, listen to me, I'm the, I'm the one with the, uh, the answers. It's always those guys and I've caught a few of them doing this. When they talk to eyewitnesses and they want to add more to the, the encounter than what's there, which doesn't help the subject. What, you don't remember the guy's name?

• 23:45Speaker 07

  I don't. I may ask my wife, she may remember his name.

• 23:51Speaker 07

  A friend of ours who um told us about this, he was kinda up there up front with the guy. He may remember his name. And if I could ever get it, I would, I would let you know. But yeah, he, he kept trying to embellish it a little bit. And I'm like, look, man, I'm, I'm sorry I didn't come face to face with a 12 foot tall Sasquatch, but I said, that's not what happened.

• 24:13Wes Germer?

  And kinda going back to your encounter, I've been around hunting dogs before. They're like trained military soldiers. I mean, they're focused and a little crazy too. Uh, there's, I've, I've seen these dogs. There's not much that scares them, but for this thing to scream at you, then scream at the dogs, then make its way towards the dogs and have them all huddled down there in the ditch. And I could see you going back the next day and being like, oh, there's tracks and kinda pointing together what happened. But while this was going on, what did you guys think it was?

• 24:49Speaker 07

  Well, I had seen a few things prior to that. I, I mean, it was always interesting to me, but I never gave it a thought as, you know, it's not something that I particularly followed all the time, every time. Until that happened. And honestly, it had such a profound effect on me that I've, I mean, I've watched something about it or listened to something about it or read something about it. Pretty much ever since then, it's, it's been, you know, it has an effect on you to a, I mean,

• 25:18Speaker 07

  I can only imagine being face to face and seeing what I heard. How that would have affected me, but I know what I went through and how it did affect me. And I'm a bow hunter, you know, and I, it was a long time before I could comfortably walk to the tree stand.

• 25:35Speaker 07

  In the mornings, in the dark, you know, without thinking that every snap and squeal and screech out that you hear is is a Sasquatch. And to this day, honestly, I, I prefer to hunt in the morning over the evening because it's getting daylight and not dark. So, and that, I mean, might sound silly, but it's true.

• 25:55Wes Germer?

  No, I don't think it sounds silly at all. I've had many encounters where people are out there and something happens and they'll give up hunting. I've had many encounters where guys have these hunting dogs and a lot of times when they go after these creatures, the guys never get their, all their dogs back or there's one or two missing. Why do you think it didn't hurt the dogs?

• 26:20Speaker 07

  I, it, it, to me, I think, you know, they can smell better than us, dogs being that.

• 26:28Speaker 07

  They can hear better than us. I would say when it heard what we heard getting closer to them, I'd say they just skeedaddled. But the only thing I can think of is they were just terrified. Because I had to pull them out of that culver. They weren't coming. They were not coming. I mean, they were digging in with their toenails, trying to stay in there. So something forced them in there fearfully, or they wouldn't have went, you know? What was impressive, I mean, the screen, when it let the screen go, and they, and they call it a screen, they call it a ground, whatever, it was a combination of all those things. But it's, it was forceful. It felt like it would have took so much power to produce that.

• 27:12Speaker 07

  And like I said, the first time it did it, it felt like it was directed to us.

• 27:17Speaker 07

  The second time as well, but the third time, it, you can, you know, you can kind of, I don't know, you can kind of detect what way sounds traveling. I mean, you know, like if you've ever turkey hunted, you can tell when it gobbles, where it gobbled from, the direction it was. But the, but the third time, it was directed towards those dogs and why it ran to them and not up at us, I have no clue. But the stride on the tracks, trackway, I want to say, I didn't dive into it, looking at, you know, I didn't cast it. But the track line that it made had a very large stride and a very, very good impression, depression into the ground. You know, the leaf litter and the soil and the timber is always

• 28:00Speaker 07

  a lot softer from the breakdown of the leaves.

• 28:05Speaker 07

  Um, over time and it was terrifying and it was, I've told a few people about it. You know, of course, you know, when you, when you're not talking to someone that's like-minded towards a certain subject, then you're crazy or you're an idiot or that stuff doesn't work, it doesn't exist and whatever, what have you, but it did happen and I, I did not see one, but I, I have to believe that that's what that was.

• 28:37Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it kind of shows that just from the way the dogs reacted, it was a different type of scream than what they had heard before. You know, you get a cougar, a mountain lion or a bobcat or whatever, uh, doing their scream. Those dogs, that's right up their alley. That's what they've been waiting for. And for their reaction to go, we're going down to the ditch and we're all going to huddle, we're all going to huddle here. Uh, it, it does sound like one of these creatures. I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? What's your take?

• 29:11Speaker 07

  Okay. So I've thought about that a lot. And in my opinion, it's a flesh and blood form of a humanoid. Um, it could be an ape. I, I, I can't say for sure. I don't buy into the whole, uh, UFOs dropping them off and, and picking them up and shape shift. And I would never tell anybody that said that they seen that happen, that it didn't happen because I've been on the other end of ridicule. Um, I just don't buy into that. I, I think it's an actual flesh and blood creature. And you wouldn't, you know, when you, when you watch things on them and documentaries on them, a lot of it is the Pacific Northwest, Canada,

• 29:56Speaker 07

  California, Alaska. But if you get on like a database type thing and look at the sightings across the board, Ohio has a lot of them. I didn't, I did not never, I never knew that.

• 30:09Wes Germer?

  Oh yeah, a lot comes out of Ohio. I'd put it right up there with the Pacific Northwest for sure. And I get reports like this all the time where people are like, what, you know, what do you think it was? I mean, and it's almost more scary when you don't see it as opposed to when you see it.

• 30:28Speaker 07

  Yeah, it was very terrifying, honestly. I mean, I joke about it now a little bit, but and, and I, and I still hunt and fish. It hasn't kept me out of the woods and I'm, you know, I've heard lots of stories on your podcast and others like it. You know, people never going back in and doing what they love to do because, you know, they're fearful of it. And I get it. I get it. What I heard that day was horrifying, creepy. I don't know how to, I don't know how to put it into words. I know I can't make that sound. I'm about positive that you can't make that sound. I don't wish to ever hear it again.

• 31:08Wes Germer?

  Yeah, who could blame you? And I really appreciate you sharing it, Joe, because like I said before, it's a weird encounter and a lot of weird encounters come from hunters. And I really appreciate you taking the time to come on.

• 31:22Speaker 07

  I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me.

• 31:37Wes Germer?

  Next up on the show, I want to welcome Ryan. Ryan, thanks for being here.

• 31:42Speaker 03

  Yeah. Hi, Wes. How you doing?

• 31:44Wes Germer?

  I'm doing well. Thank you for asking. And you kind of had a series of very weird things happen to you while out there hunting in Oregon. This dates back to 2010 and it leads up to even one of the incidences of seeing this weird light out there. If you would take me back to 2010 and, and walk me into some of these weird experiences that you had.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  I live in Western Oregon and.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  I've been an outdoorsman my whole life. There's a, one of the rivers, it's close to where I live at. I've been fishing it pretty much my, oh, forty, forty plus years. And we get summer steelhead up there. And I was fishing summer steelhead, it was about fifteen years ago. I was, typically I'd fish in the evenings after work. So I'd go up and I'd fish the last four or five hours of daylight. And fish right up until the deadline of the, you can fish up till dark in Oregon. Uh, you can't fish in the dark, but you can fish up to like a half hour of sundown or whatever.

• 33:01Speaker 03

  And it gets pretty dark. And so with those kind, those fish, I would, uh, fish late into the evenings. And so I was down working these holes that I, I, I fish on a regular basis. And I was just about done, so I, I drove up the river, got out of my rig, went down and fished, there was some, about a, a stretch there, maybe a hundred yards long. It had these little pockets of water where the fish would hang. And then I'd go through and I'd fish them pretty quickly, kind of move up the river. And I was just about done for the night. And, uh, I got to the last one.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  And I was out in the water, oh, probably about two or three feet, kind of stretching out there, trying to get my bait into this tight little spot. And all of a sudden I had this really weird feeling come over me. It just made the hair stand up on the back of my, my neck. And, um, The smell of of something just to me, it smelled like my dad used to refer to it as as carrion, which is, you know, dead animals in the ditch or dead animals. And then you'd have buzzards eat on it. He would refer to uh dead animals like that as carrion. And that's what it smelled like.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  It it just all of a sudden it appeared. The smell and I and I I turned and I looked up the river. Uh approximately fifty to seventy five yards. There was some really tall canary grass in there. I was I was thinking, hey, must be a bear or something coming down the river because it was like all of a sudden it just hit me. So I'm real intent. I'm all I'm kind of I kind of camoed up and I'm packing a revolver. So I really wasn't pretty much afraid of anything. And I'm watching up the river there. And as I'm standing there, this beaver comes booking down the river like is, I mean, as bad as fast as them things can swim.

• 35:09Speaker 03

  It went right past me. Uh, I mean, if it would have hit my legs, it would have broke my legs. It was moving so fast. It was a big beaver. But uh, anyway, this the sense of something being there was just like really super strong. And so I'm real intent. I'm watching that grass. And I'm like, well, I'm gonna start heading up to the rig. And so I had to go about maybe fifty yards to get up to the pickup. And so I'm I'm slowly walking out of the water and I'm and I get over to the bank. And I'm looking up there and just in my mind, it was like it just kind of came over me and it says it's right there. Whatever it is, is right there. And at the time, I didn't know what I was dealing with. I thought I was dealing with

• 35:53Speaker 03

  with a bear or something like that. And I hadn't I hadn't killed any bears yet. I I I do bear hunt out here. And since then, I've I've killed a few and they don't none of them have smelled. In fact, none of them have ever smelled bad. They and I've always made a point of just kind of smelling them to try to get the general scent. And um, this thing was just rancid. So I just continued up to the pickup and got in my rig and left. So as you the years went by, I mean, this has been, this has been like fifteen years ago, something like that, give or take. I was trying to remember the exact date, but as when I started to uh listen listening to Sasquatch of

• 36:37Speaker 03

  Actually, your show has probably been one of the first ones I listened to when I started learning about characteristics of these creatures. You know, I like the smell and some of the things that come over you when you possibly you're having an encounter. Like I said, it just the hair on the back of my head raised up. But at the time, I had no idea what I was dealing with. But after finding out how these things are, and there was some people had an encounter with a Bigfoot. I've looked on, I don't know if it was the BFRO. There was a site that was online for a while and in it, it was an old one. It came down. I read a story

• 37:21Speaker 03

  in Tillamook County where a man and his daughter were hunting up there, not too far as a crow flies from where this spot was at and had an encounter with some of these creatures coming into the camp messing with their trailer and stuff. But anyway, that was my first time I feel like I actually had an encounter with one of these things.

• 37:47Wes Germer?

  And I know in the second incident, a lot more things happened, but it is weird kind of being out there and all of a sudden you get that weird feeling like you're being watched and that smell coming out of nowhere. Before this actually happened, what was your whole take on Sasquatch?

• 38:05Speaker 03

  My aunt lived in Northern California, about 12 miles north of Eureka. She lived on the coast there. Her and her husband own a bar down there. And they were all tight with all the locals. Her husband was from down there. And then she got to know all of them. They owned this bar for years, 15, 20 years. And she knew a lot of loggers. They'd come in and eat breakfast, that kind of stuff. This was back in the late sixties and so she had, she heard a lot of stories about Sasquatch down there in that area, different guys seeing things, you know, there's a lot of stuff that

• 38:50Speaker 03

  never got reported, it was just, you know, talk, guys actually seeing them, you know, and keeping a, telling, you know, locals, but it didn't make it out, it wasn't like in a book or anything. And, uh, so when I first heard about Bigfoot, I was probably five years old, I went down there with my mom and, uh, she was having some, uh, some, some personal issues, her and her husband, and so my mom just loaded me up and we drove down there for, we stayed with my aunt for a few days, my mom was kind of consoling her on the thing, and then in the same process, I remember her talking about Sasquatch with my mom and it was all serious business, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't a, it was a serious conversation, it wasn't, it was a bunch of hokey pokey or

• 39:34Speaker 03

  anything like that. Um, and so from the time I was little, and then, you know, I'd, I'd heard about Bigfoot, then, uh, went with my dad, uh, to a movie in a theater, uh, with a friend of ours we used to hunt with, I was probably six years old, this would have been maybe a year or two after that, and they had the, they had the Patterson Gimlin film, uh, kind of embedded in that movie, it was kind of an outdoor movie with fishing and hunting and stuff, and, and, uh, they had a picture of that, uh, or the video in there. And so I was just kind of like, from the whole, you know, I just kind of like, well, yeah, there's Bigfoot and he exists and

• 40:14Speaker 03

  we know he's down there. But then, when I was in grade school, I remember a kid, I was probably in about sixth or seventh grade, and this kid was talking about his neighbor seeing a Bigfoot up there where they lived at, and, uh, I went into that one website, just looking at locations, and somewhere back in the mid seventies, and it would have been about this area where this kid was telling me that there was a Bigfoot up there, there was a sighting up there. And um, pretty much always uh, reali- uh, I'd never really a belief with me. It's always been, well, they, they exist. But uh, I always kind of figured they were more li- more down south, you know, they're not up here as much and.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  So the second incident happened to, to me, it was about three years ago. We were hunting up in Northwest Oregon for elk and we were out where we were gonna hunt at. We were out. Uh, it was about two days before the season opened up and we were scouting. We, we hiked in there. We were back in about a mile. And uh, there's a point back in there where we could, you know, get up on that point. And then we could glass for elk and see, you know, pretty large expanses and then we're. Um, pretty much every place that we could see, we knew how to get into it. So if we'd spot elk, we'd.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  We'd get up there and then we'd take a, you know, you uh, do an assessment on, on how many elk are different spots and then get ready for the opener, how we're gonna do that. So anyway, we're up on this point, couple of days before it's scouting, we're up there and we're glassing and uh. I'm looking of anywheres from a, a mile and a half to two miles away and we're spotting elk. And all of a sudden about, it was about, from where we were at, it was probably about three quarters of a mile. There's a, there's a, there's a canyon that goes down into a really steep creek. It's got a lot of rock down in there. There's a lot of rock.

• 42:18Speaker 03

  Uh, formation. Something came out of that creek and it was, it was like it was calling. And I've tried, I've, I've tried to find. Uh, and a sound that somebody has recorded, you know, that they felt like it was a Sasquatch. And I haven't exactly heard it, but to me it sounded like this thing was calling in it. What was really impressive about it was it moved from the bottom of the canyon to the top of this ridge. Well, we're just still, and I'm not even focusing in on this sound. It just started calling. And so I said to my buddy, I said, man, what's that?

• 43:00Speaker 03

  And he's like, I don't know. And he goes, is that a bear or something? I go, nah, ain't no bear. And actually what it sounded like, it sounded like a, it, of actually like, uh, like a, uh, like a milk cow, like a, uh, cow, a lot of times when they're heading to the barn, they'll, they'll, they'll call and they got kind of a distinct call, but it was, it kind of sounded like that. But this thing was, the way it was calling, it was almost like it was, it was looking for some, it's looking for, you know, another, whatever it was, it was like either,

• 43:37Speaker 03

  it was kind of like bell, but once it got to the top of the ridge, it shut up and then it didn't do it anymore. But what got me was how fast it moved from the bottom to the top of the ridge. And it was just, just a creepy continual, like a howl, just,

• 43:57Speaker 03

  and it, it went from the bottom of that canyon to the top of the ridge. And I've hunted in there and I, I, I killed an elk in there a couple of years before that, and it's a deep canyon. And I mean, for a man to go from where that sound was coming to the top of the ridge, it would have took a guy probably an hour, hour and a half to get out of there. This thing went from the bottom to the top. Literally I could tell where the sound was at because I spent a lot of time in there. It probably took like maybe five to 10 minutes and it went from the bottom all the way to the top. So it, it had to have been just moving fast as it was calling. And then once it got to the top of the ridge,

• 44:40Speaker 03

  it didn't make any more sound. So.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  I did find where there was an encounter not too far from where this this sound was coming from. It literally was about a mile away. A couple of people said that they were hiking back up in there off of on this one mountain. And it's pretty popular. There was a lot of people in this road they were on. I know it. I haven't been in on it, but I know exactly which road they were talking about. It's gated off. And they said they had a rock throwing incident. Something followed them and kept throwing rocks, you know, and literally as the crow flies from where that was to where this sound was. It's literally like a mile and a half.

• 45:30Speaker 03

  And then I also found where there was a sighting just a little bit further south in that rock. Throwing incident, there was one sighted down around the halum. It was just seen like kind of out in this clear cut. And that really realistically from where that was to where this other one was, you know, you're just talking. You know, a couple of miles or so and all that ground back up in there, miles and miles up in there. It's all gated off. I mean, when they're logging in there, you know, that's the only thing that's going on. You know, they let people in during hunting season rest here. It's just gated off.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  Even though there's a lot of people around not too far from highway 101. It's literally really pretty remote up in there. And but whatever that sound was, it wasn't no elk. It wasn't no bear. You know, I don't really know what it was, but speculation on the as loud as it was and was moving as fast as it was, you know, it's. I don't know.

• 46:37Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it's kind of one of those moments of what in the world was that? And you know, out here in the Pacific Northwest, I know where you're at in Oregon. We have black bears and we have cougars and that's about it. And there's a lot of people that come forward, you know, off the air and say, hey, especially hunters, hey, I was out there and I heard this and where do you pinpoint it? What was it? And in your case, you haven't actually seen the creature. But you had an incident with the lights out there. We talk about the lights on the show all the time. Tell me about this incident with the lights.

• 47:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, so this it this just happened to me three weeks ago. Uh, and before I tell you that I got one more encounter that I think kind of ties into this. So. It's just a couple of miles from my house. There's a clear cut that I hunt in the fall for deer. Close to the house so I can get off quickly from work, go up there. Um, I can even hunt it in the morning, early before work or even on weekends. I got really good access. And so this place I know it very well and I've I've hunted deer out. I've got a bear out of there. I've been hunted roughly for 20 years, so I know it very, very well.

• 48:00Speaker 03

  There's a few houses up there.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  They're kind of spread out. There was a new one that was built. Up in that area about three years ago, they literally built it out in this clear cut. Now the timber's kind of grown around it. But anyway, it's one road in, one road out. I mean, it's. There's only one road going into this place. It goes up through this clear cut and it's only about a mile in. And typically the way I would hunt it, I would, I would walk in. Uh, hunt my way in, take my time. And there was a couple of places where I'd kind of still hunt, sit, and then I'd work my way out. Well, a couple of years ago. I was hunting in there for deer. And.

• 48:47Speaker 03

  As it gets later into the season, the deer start to rut, become more vulnerable. And then that's when you got a good chance of getting a real nice one. I was going into that time period and I started, I was starting to see bucks. And they seemed like they were really. They seemed like they were really spooked all the time. Like I couldn't get a shot at this one. I couldn't get a shot at that one. I couldn't get a shot at this one. I was getting really frustrated. And it was like they would come out in the clear cut, they'd feed for a little bit and then they'd just like book it right back to the reprod, get out of the clear cut. Wouldn't spend a whole lot of time in there. In fact, I had one come running past me so fast I couldn't get a shot at it. It was a really nice one.

• 49:30Speaker 03

  And I, I remember it was just kind of a weird characteristic. I mean, usually when they, they go into the rut, they'll come out, they start looking for does or even though they're, they're getting kind of stupid, they still become pretty vulnerable. But these things were like, they were like keyed up and it seemed like three different bucks. They all acted the same way. So way, way I would hunt this, I would, I would go in, I'd come back out. Well, I was hunting it in the evening this one night. And, uh, I have this stump not too far from where I park at. So I'd hunt in and then I'd walk all the way out. The last place I'd stop right before dark.

• 50:10Speaker 03

  I'd stop at this stump and I'd just kind of hold up there and I could put my gun, rest my gun across the top of the stump and I'd get my binos out and I'd start glassing. And just, you can hunt right up until a half hour after sundown. So I would push it, you know, every, I'd make sure I was there until dark every night. And, um, so anyway, I come out the one night and I get, I get down to the stump and I set the gun there. And I'm watching and then all of a sudden I heard this cough. And it, it sounded just like a man coughing. Um,

• 50:51Speaker 03

  and I was like, what?

• 50:55Speaker 03

  It was coming from where I'd just been coming down the road.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  It was like maybe within 50, 75 yards away from me, but it's starting to get dark, but I can still see it. So I pull my binos and I'm looking, looking, and then I start hearing this talking. And it was like, you know, it was like, you know, it was just like jumbling, like, it was like maybe two or three people talking, but you couldn't really totally understand it. I mean, you couldn't, I couldn't understand it. And they were talking and I'm like, what is going on? So now I'm getting kind of aggravated. So I sat there and I was like, I'm gonna wait till they come out and I'm gonna tell them, say, hey, you know, when somebody's up in there, you guys better be careful walking up in there. You're liable to get shot or, or, you know, I mean,

• 51:45Speaker 03

  So I didn't really know what was going on with that. I just, so I, I just sat there in my stump and I waited. And they moved away from me and I'm like, they're going in, they're not coming out. And the timing was almost like, it was almost like they waited for me to come by. And then they stepped out into the road and they headed into where I came from. And this was like right when everything is getting super dark. There was no lights. And now I got my binos out and I got some really good binoculars. And I'm like looking up that road. I'm trying to see movement. I'm trying to see a flashlight. Nothing. Now all of a sudden, I'm like, okay, that's weird.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  So now, leading up to what I just seen here three weeks ago. I got a couple of dogs and uh, usually in the evenings, they want to go for a walk or go for a ride. So. They were bugging me the one night, you know, looking at me like, well, what are we gonna do? So it's like, let's go for a ride. So I took them out and got them in the rig and. We decided to drive up the road and I usually throw my binos in. So I have some if I see a elk or a deer or something, you know, and look at them. And uh, I drove back in, uh, up just past the house, back up in there where I deer hunt and right where this last.

• 53:12Speaker 03

  Incident I was telling you about, drove past that, drove up, up into the woods up there, maybe five, six miles. It was starting to get pretty dark. And so. I let them out and they kind of play around a little bit and feed them. And then I, they got back in and so we're gonna head home. And it's just, it's starting to get dark and uh, so I'm heading back to the house. And I'm almost to that gate where uh, I was just told you about the last incident and. I can look up through the trees. I'm on the road and I'm driving. I'm, I'm driving down the road and I see, I look up in the trees and I see this, this red dot. Well, it looked like a taillight. Cause it was exactly the same color as a taillight.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  And I was like, that's weird. There ain't no road up there. And so I, I just stopped, threw up the binos, and I'm looking at this thing, and it's this, it's a orb. And it's descending into the timber, and it's, it's about a mile away. I know exactly the ridge it was on.

• 54:19Speaker 03

  And it just slowly, it was coming down out of the sky, and it was dropping down into the tops of the timber, in between the trees. It wasn't above the trees, up in the air above it. It was going into the timber. And so I, I hopped out of my rig, and I grabbed my phone, and I'm trying to, I'm swiping it, trying to get my camera up to where I can get a picture of this thing. And I fumbling around, and I couldn't get it up, and I never got a picture on it. And it just descended into the timber. And I was like, what was that? You know, and so I went home and I told my wife, she's, she's, I told my neighbor about it.

• 55:05Speaker 03

  But I haven't told anybody else. But the thing was perfectly round. It was big. It wasn't, it wasn't a small orb. It was a big orb. And the way the tops of those trees are, that's full-sized timber. I mean, typically, those trees are planted anywhere from eight to 10 feet on center. And it, it was a couple of different tops of the, between a couple of different trees, or the thing had to have been 20 feet across, maybe 30. And it was the same color as the taillight. It was red, perfectly round, ball. Uh, there was no opaque in it at all. It was all the same color.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  And it just slowly descended into the timber. So I was really jacked up after that happened, and um,

• 55:57Speaker 03

  I went home to my wife and I, I, I, it was really strange. I, it was, I guess like an adrenaline dump or whatever, but I was really wound up for the next couple of days on it. Um, I did go online to try to find red orbs, you know, some things that would similar to that. And I did find one online. I, I downloaded it on my phone, uh, that I could send to you later, uh, to kind of show you what I was looking at. But, uh, yeah, it was, it was big, but I guess the thing that is that, to me is that sound of that Samurai chatter and what I heard going back up in there, you know,

• 56:42Speaker 03

  and then now seeing that all in the same, basically the same neighborhood. That's really what kind of got me. I don't even know what to say, dude. I, I don't even know what to say. I mean, I've been looking ever since we, we had the, the whole drone thing going on the east coast. I mean, I mean, I've been looking for stuff out here. I got pictures of these things that I seen in the sky, but then they're like a rotating, they look round and then they kind of change colors and stuff. But I, later I found that those were like Starlink, but this ain't, this is what I seen this

• 57:22Speaker 03

  red. This wasn't no, this was nothing attached to any kind of a drone. It wasn't attached to anything. It was, uh, just really weird.

• 57:35Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I just had a guy from your area, another hunter. He was describing the Samurai chatter. He said it reminded him of a Kung Fu movie. Uh, he didn't see the creatures, but he kept hearing this weird language, this weird chatter. And it was three of them. And again, it's right in your area. Um, I might've missed it there in the beginning. I know you described the orb as being big, but how big was it?

• 58:00Speaker 03

  It had to been at least 20 to 30 feet across.

• 58:04Wes Germer?

  Yeah, that's huge. That's bigger than, uh, I had a street trooper. I was telling you this before we started recording, Ryan, that, um, he almost hit one coming across the road and he was describing it to me and I was like, well, how big was it? And he was like about the size of a Volkswagen. He had to swerve to, uh, to actually miss it. What, what's your take on that light that you saw? What do you think it was?

• 58:29Speaker 03

  I have no idea. I've listened to the Sasquatch stories now for the last couple of years and I, you know, I've heard about, you know, people talking about the orbs and, and some of the, that kind of stuff, you know, and I never really bought into it. Uh, well, I hadn't really thought about it much, I guess. Um, you know, I don't know. I really don't know. I, I, I feel like, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of mysteries in this world that we live in. I, I think a lot of people are looking for answers. You know, myself, I'm a Christian. It's not really a faith thing with me. Um, but I do have questions.

• 59:12Speaker 03

  It's like, you know, I want to know, I, I'd love to know the mysteries of the, the whole universe. Like everybody, a lot of people would. A lot of people don't care. Um, but I really don't know, Wes. I can just tell you what I think it was. It was not from this world. When I seen that thing go into the timber, I was getting kind of tired and I was like, you know, and I'll just, a couple of years ago, three, four years ago, I would have just went home, got my fanny pack, threw some stuff in it, grabbed probably one of my dogs, flashlights, some snacks, maybe some coffee. And I'd have went up there and sat in that clear cut and waited for it to come out of there. But I was just kind of like, nah, I'm

• 59:56Speaker 03

  going home. I just kind of like, I seen what I seen. I seen it with my own eyes. Like I said, it was a perfect red orb and it was big. Definitely not in this world.

• 1:00:10Wes Germer?

  Yeah. Seeing an orb is crazy enough when you see that ball of light, but when you see one as big as what you saw and the fact that it's right there, right by that ravines, like right next to your home. It's a little unnerving. What, what's your take on Sasquatch? What do you think it is?

• 1:00:28Speaker 03

  Well, um, now I'll tell you some of the things that are really intriguing me about these things is when people say they drop down on fours and run, that seems like, you know, a characteristic that you would see with a, you know, mountain gorilla, a chimpanzee. It, it just, and in the articulated, uh, or the, uh, the mid tarsal break on their feet, you know, they're able to do stuff with their feet, like they can probably climb and grip and stuff like that. You know, I've been leaning towards, you know, they're a type of primate. I don't really, the Nephilim thing, I don't really think that's it. I

• 1:01:08Speaker 03

  think the Nephilim were, uh, were more evolved. Uh, they were more, if they were in, if they were indeed, you know, uh, fallen angels, you know, breeding with humans. I mean, you're talking, they're going to be more lines of Goliath in the Bible. Um, some of these other type giants. I mean, they're not going to be like a big, a big ape like these things are. I mean, I, I personally, I just, I, I've always felt like they're just, you know, they're another primate, but they're, you know, they're a North American primate. I just think, you know, and the thing is like the mountain gorilla was only discovered like a hundred years ago. I mean, that's not very long. And these things, you know, they, they,

• 1:01:53Speaker 03

  it's, this is their environment. They're the ones in charge of it. They don't need us. You know, they don't need to show up down at the, the fast food lane or, or go to the grocery store. They got everything they need to survive out there. Um, I was always intrigued by the, that story of the fellow up in B C, uh, one of the first ones that came out where he got snatched up in his sleeping bag. And the the squash took him back to his family and you know, they had him for three or four days and he fed him some Copenhagen or some chew and then he made him sick and got away. The one thing about that story that you know, some, I mean, this is, this

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  is the highlights that hit me with that. The one thing about that was is that Sasquatch carried him for like three or four mi- uh, three or four hours. Now that man said that he thought that they probably traversed about 20 or 30 miles. So these animals could do miles in a night. You know, they might have a feeding area that they decide to take off and go to and 20 to 30 miles for them is nothing. You know, they're all powerfully built and all that, but you know what? If you were walking up and down these hills every day, day in and day out, like some of these logger guys I've grown up with, I mean, you get in incredible shape. And if you're out there living in this stuff

• 1:03:16Speaker 03

  and hunting like they do and foraging, I mean, they're gonna be muscular. But anyway, yeah, I think they're more of a primate. That's my opinion. Uh, I, I don't know, the whole orb thing, it just to that, I don't know what that is. That's something from another world and you know, they were planted here by some other beings. It's like, now you're getting a little weird, but then again, is it? I mean, some of the people are seeing these orbs all the time.

• 1:03:44Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it really makes you wonder about the lights. I mean, I've wondered about them for years. I think more and more people are seeing them. Um, are they related to Sasquatch? I don't know. Uh, they sure seem to show up a lot when Sasquatch is around, which is kind of weird. And you know, with the old Albert Otzman, the guy you were talking about being kidnapped, I actually kind of believe Albert. He says a lot of really little things that he wouldn't have known if you really pay attention to some of the details he says. He says a lot of little things that I don't think he would have known unless something happened. Uh, but it's a fascinating account. I think you talked about the 30 mile radius

• 1:04:28Wes Germer?

  thing that Albert assumed he traveled.

• 1:04:32Wes Germer?

  I think gorillas, their territories are like 16 miles or I know it's under 20 miles, but they, they also share a large territory. And I know your feelings about it being kind of a non-human primate. And like I always say, man, you could be right. That's really what I want it to be. And it's the thing that makes the most sense. So I definitely understand the way you feel about it. And I really appreciate you taking the time to come on.

• 1:05:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:02Wes Germer?

  Thanks again, Ryan. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. Get a chance to check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone. Time everyone

• 1:06:03Speaker 02

  I saw a moon as a human and lighter

• 1:06:10Speaker 02

  And it power grew wider

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  So we both must be a little wiser

• 1:06:21Speaker 02

  To do something a quieter With the lights on, this is my home Close where I own, memories of you dear Unturned your eyes, closed at the sky I'll miss my ride, memories of you dear

• 1:07:07Speaker 02

  Put the lights on, this is my home Close it down, memories of you dear Untie your life, close up the sky I'll miss my life, memories of you dear

• 1:08:12Speaker 02

  Say that you're still here in my mind And this smile you're leaving in my mind 'Cause I found the key to your mind

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  Say that I want you back in my mind And I'll make you stay in my mind Don't miss it away in my mind

• 1:08:34Speaker 02

  Say that you're still here in my mind And this smile you're leaving in my mind 'Cause I found the key to your mind

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  You are the best in my mind And I'll make you stay in my mind Don't miss it away in my mind Don't miss it away