SC EP:1122 Getting Served

The witness had an encounter in Alabama in August 2024. She was serving papers to the homeowner when the encounter happened. Celena writes "Hello Wes, you were a referral by several individuals, they seem to think you would want to know what happened to me on the job. I was surrounded by a Clan of Bigfoot while attempting to serve court documents. Pictures provided."

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:03Speaker 00

  It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that, that shocked me. They don't make people that, that big.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  They were screaming at each other in gibberish.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw bears.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  911, what are you reporting?

• 1:13Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ, you better...

• 1:14Speaker 02

  Karen?

• 1:15Speaker 03

  See ya!

• 1:16Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 1:17Speaker 03

  Get somebody out here.

• 1:19Speaker 02

  What's going on now, sir?

• 1:19Speaker 03

  That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know.

• 1:23Speaker 02

  Do you see him now, sir?

• 1:24Speaker 03

  Yes, I'm looking right at him.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  Uh-uh.

• 1:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is the Macho Man and you're listening to the cream of the crop, yeah! Podcast Sasquatch Chronicles.

• 2:11Wes Germer?

  Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. We'll be chatting with Ms. Selena, and she comes to us from Alabama. And back in August of 2024, she was actually serving papers as a processor, and she had an encounter on this property, the property she was actually serving on. And I'll kind of let her go into it tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want

• 2:55Wes Germer?

  to welcome Ms. Selena to the show. Selena, thanks for coming on.

• 3:00Speaker 05

  Thank you for having me.

• 3:02Wes Germer?

  Yeah, and you had this encounter back in August of 2024 out there in Alabama. Tell me, Ms. Selena, before this encounter, what was kind of your take on Sasquatch?

• 3:15Speaker 05

  I'm embarrassed to say that I was the eye roller, the one that would say, yeah, yeah, you know, didn't believe in much of that kind of stuff.

• 3:27Wes Germer?

  I hear you. Well, if you would, take me back to August of 2024 in Alabama. If you would, kind of start from the beginning. What were you doing and what happened?

• 3:38Speaker 05

  Okay, well, yes, I have been in law enforcement quite a few years and had to have a knee replacement. And so I had to still continue to work for financial reasons. And so I went ahead and took a job. They run my background check and everything got me started pretty quick as a process server. What you do is you deliver court documents to people's homes and addresses. And I had gotten a address on a county road in Piedmont, Alabama. And

• 4:17Speaker 05

  I just thought it was such a pretty little drive over there. It took about twenty-two minutes from my house. So, uh, it was just a pretty, you know, country roads. And I enjoyed the drive. And at first, I went three days. I went one day at twelve, the next day at three, the next day at five P M. And I never could get the initial person that I was supposed to serve. Well, on that piece of property also was his parents' home right across from his. So I tried for a fourth time, but this time I went very early in the morning, just in case they were gonna get up and leave for work. Maybe I could catch them as they were coming out of the house to leave for work.

• 5:02Speaker 05

  And so, um, I pulled into the driveway, flashers on, uh, just to let them know, you know, don't be alarmed, I'm here to deliver something. And, um, pulled on up a little bit and I sat there at the, kindly, the end of the driveway at first. And, um, I seen a large black dog that was just about come to my hip. And I say that because, uh, usually pets don't scare me, but this one was pretty big. But, uh, I thought, there's no way, no possible way for me to get out of this car. And not that dog come after me and me outrun it, cause I was still healing and still am healing now. No one told me it took this long to get healed from a knee replacement.

• 5:45Speaker 05

  Anyways, um, so I thought, maybe if I pull up just a little bit closer to the house, which was connected to the carport, then I can, they'll look out their windows or come outside and see me there, flashers on, they won't be alarmed, you know? And they'll see what I need. And so, the next thing I know, I just kept my eye on the house itself and I turned my head to the right to look at the house. And I did that because I, I've had a couple bad situations where people come out real defensive with shotguns and I've been shot at, but they shot over my head. So I'm real leery about shotguns.

• 6:27Speaker 05

  And people in Alabama, if you own nice things, of course, you're gonna wanna protect that and your family. So I just kept my eye on that house and I turned my head to the right, looked at the house and then up towards the front of the house was a carport with a brand new Bronco and a new Harley and it was just the most beautiful green grass. And so I would just glance on up that house every few minutes, you know, and just look back towards that pretty green grass and that Bronco and all, you know, just a beautiful piece of property. And it was the only two homes on the whole road. That should tell you how much forestry.

• 7:09Speaker 05

  And so anyways, like I said, pulled on closer to the carport because of the dog and just in case I did have to step out, if the owner come outside, you know, I'd be near my car because I couldn't outrun the dog anyways. And so I just so happened to turn one more time and glance at that house just to make sure nobody was coming out to catch me off guard, you know. And I glanced up and there it was, there it was, right there standing in the yard in front of me. Um, large, black.

• 7:48Speaker 05

  Large and black and huge, huge in a ways, and nothing scares me. You hear me, spiders, snakes, that's about all that scares me and everybody knows that about me, I just have never been scared of, you know, but I knew, like I said, I've never seen anything so, so large in my life. I thought, my God, did I make a mistake? Did I not observe when I pulled up? Did they have a huge black sign or a piece of, maybe a piece of a wall back there that's painted black? Maybe I just didn't see it. Maybe it was my, I wasn't observant as I thought I was, you know, I started second guessing my decisions in my own intelligence, I guess you would say.

• 8:33Speaker 05

  And anyways, I, I had a rubber holder on my windshield that held my cellphone because we have to identify wherever we're at to the company we work for and the judge, you know, when he gives us an assignment, we gotta get the papers to, to the people that we're supposed to serve. So I knew that I had to take pictures anyway, but that wasn't even on my mind. I grabbed that phone and when I did, I went to take a picture. A little gray one was beside that huge black one. And I mean, this little gray one was so malnourished, so small, so bony, so.

• 9:14Speaker 05

  On the black one, you couldn't see anything except for hair, and I mean anything. If if I wouldn't have seen the legs, then I wouldn't have even known that this was a a thing standing there. It was so covered with black hair and so huge. And the little gray one was so tiny, like small built, around five foot. Uh cheekbones so defined. Um, it you could even see the lines on his forehead. But what is amazing about all this, not only did I see something I cannot explain, I try my best, I do the best I can, but. Uh, the little gray one had laid some kind of a.

• 9:59Speaker 05

  Uh deer antlers on its head, like, like, you know, like we would lay a crown if we got crowned at a beauty pageant or something. The little gray one had placed something with deer antlers on its forehead. It was the most strangest thing and um.

• 10:17Speaker 05

  As strange as that is, was so focused on this big black one. I just went, like I said, I took a picture. And something just told me, I don't know where, something just told me to turn my phone. In case somebody was or somebody, you know what I mean, something was behind me. And I thought, Lord, if there's two here, what if something's behind my car and I just don't see it? My, I was in the car with the doors locked, you know, and so. I went ahead from left shoulder to the right and I said, click, click, click, click, and I mean, I started taking pictures. And uh anyways, I didn't have time to look for them because like I said, as scary as what I was seeing.

• 11:02Speaker 05

  That I still couldn't believe I seen, I still was glancing at that house at the same time. Does that make sense? Uh cause I mean, I didn't wanna get in another bad situation, cause uh gun gunfire is not easy to hear, a little on field. So anyways, I just, I was trying to just take pictures from my left shoulder to my right. I thought, what if they're out here and I just don't see them? Well, the next thing I know, like I said, I had took those pictures, they stood there so still. Where is it? I thought, how could something be so still? And and be so large, the mass, the width of the shoulders.

• 11:44Speaker 05

  And I thought, I I know, I was married to a gentleman that was six foot seven, three hundred one pounds, size sixteen shoe. I mean, I know what a big fella looks like. You know what I'm saying? I watch football, watch wrestling, watch basketball. This was something that only,

• 12:04Speaker 05

  and I know it's uh sounds crazy, but only maybe Hollywood could make. That's how large this thing was. And I thought, uh, okay, Selena, back out of the driveway, back out of the driveway. And I kept telling myself that, but when I grabbed my car, the uh shift, gear shift to put it in reverse, my mind was saying, hurry, Selena, hurry back, back out of the driveway. But my body was not moving the way my mind was telling me to move. And I said, uh, hurry, Selena, hurry. Well, I finally, like I said, I grabbed my gear shift so hard. I thought, Lord, your fist is breaking gear shield. That's the first thing that went through my mind, believe it or not.

• 12:48Speaker 05

  And when I finally did get it in reverse, instead of me flying, backing out, you know, of out of their driveway to hit the road. Instead of me flying, my my mind was saying, hurry, hurry, you know, mash the gas. But my body just eased. It's like I just eased in reverse. It was the strangest. Anyways.

• 13:12Speaker 05

  The dirt driveway ended and then the asphalt began. And I hit that dirt part and crossed over to the asphalt. And I made a noise out loud that caught my own attention. I actually went huh like like I had been holding my breath. And I thought, Lord, I have been holding my breath this whole time. Anyways, I hit that asphalt and my leg hit that gas pedal. And Wes, I went so fast down this road. I got to a stop sign and I looked to the right and left. Actually, I didn't even want to stop at the stop sign, but I knew I'd either kill myself or somebody else.

• 13:53Speaker 05

  And so I thought, anyways, I I looked to the right, looked to the left, no cars are coming. But when I glanced to the left, on the left side of the road, there was this huge exclamation. And I thought, my God, Selena, you have been here four days in a row at different times and never to and from spotted that exclamation. Now, why are you just not spot? I mean, that's what kind of stuff I'm thinking about. But I still had not looked at the pictures, you know. I still had not, I was just wanting to get home. I just wanted to get home. Well, I got, my GPS was taking me down the roads, even though I'd been there four times. There was quite a few turns, you know, to make it back to a highway I recognized.

• 14:37Speaker 05

  So I made it back to Highway two seventy eight in Hoax Glove. And I cut my GPS off and it was driving me crazy. Lord, I was wanting to look at my phone, but no doing that. Why are you driving? Well, I got home and I looked at my pictures and I could not believe my eyes. Wes, these pictures had a female Sasquatch holding a baby. The baby was reaching for the female's face. It had three things in a barn, uh, not a barn, it was a shed, actually, not a barn. Uh, three faces in a shed that I can't even explain what it, what it is.

• 15:18Speaker 05

  Uh, and so, and then I have Sasquatch to my left hiding in the shadows. Great big old black thing. Uh, and then, of course, these two that was there. I seen a juvenile with its little arm wrapped around the ladder at the old shed. It shows its hand, the fur and everything. I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. And I thought I've got to ask somebody else, can they see what I've just caught on camera? Well, I sent it to my friends and of course, they said, Lord Selena, what in the world did you catch on camera? And I said, I know, I know. But at the same time, Wes, friends tend to be supportive and they wanna be kind.

• 16:01Speaker 05

  And I just needed a stranger, somebody that uh, was kindly objective, you know what I'm saying? To tell me exactly that they seen what I seen. Anyways, uh, get home, I tried to call, uh, the original server, the person I was supposed to serve. Uh, and no, no answer. So then, uh, the next day I went back and I did it. Uh, it wasn't just to make that few dollars I was gonna make, I mean, that helps, but that's not the reason I went, I went. I could have reassigned the job to another server. But what, what it was, I wanted to make sure, Wes, that I had seen what I seen.

• 16:45Speaker 05

  And that when I pulled up, that there wasn't something gray and furry sitting there, maybe it was a joke or a hoax or, you know what I mean? Maybe it was just maybe a misunderstanding, I wanted to make sure that I seen what I seen. So here's what I did, the next day I pulled up, flashers on, entered the end of the driveway.

• 17:08Speaker 05

  Okay, I pulled on up right there by, you know, near the carport in the house, it was connected. And a little lady come outside. It was the one I was supposed to serve's mother that lived on the same piece of property, but right across from his house. And she come outside with a towel on and on her head, you know, she had just got out of the shower. And she said, forgive me, you know, I just got out of the shower, I got a towel on my head. I said, that's fine, Miss so and so. I said, listen, I came here the last few days trying to give you some court documents for your son. And he hasn't been home, so I said, I came here.

• 17:49Speaker 05

  And I said, all, all the times that I came, I said, nobody was home. But I said, yesterday, when I came, I captured, captured some things on camera. That I just can't explain. And I was wondering if it's okay if I show it to you. Well, she took my phone and I told her how to scroll to the left, you know, to get one picture to the next. She said, the, the smile, the sweetness, you know, because she had run in the house, got her glasses, because she couldn't see. So she come back out, she looked at my phone and she kept, that sweet smile went away. I wished I could explain to you how she went from smiling, real sweet.

• 18:32Speaker 05

  Uh, to, to all of a sudden go into the most serious face. And she said, I don't, I don't know what to say, I don't know what to tell you, I just don't know what to say. With a very stern, totally different, you know, personality. And I thought, oh, my Lord, I have upset her. She either thinks I'm crazy, or she thinks I'm casing her house out to maybe come back and rob her or something, you know. I mean, she just acted plum opposite of what she's acted when she first approached my car, you know. I said, okay, Miss So-and-so, thank you so much for your time and thank you for accepting the papers for your son. And I'm sorry to have bothered you. Have a good day.

• 19:14Speaker 05

  And so I got in the car and of course I was just beside my Savior. Uh, I thought, uh, I'm the type of person that likes to see smiles on people's faces and I certainly did not like to see her go from smiling to such a firm, confused look. Okay, this was a Saturday. I get a phone call. It's from her son, the one I was supposed to have served. And he said, Miss Selena, I heard that you went to my parents' house and I heard that you served them, them, them my documents and that you saw something while you were on their property. And I said, uh, I'll just use the name Earl. I always use the name Earl.

• 19:59Speaker 05

  Uh, I said, uh, Earl, yes, I did. I seen something I didn't understand. And he said, well, I tell you what, Selena. He said, uh, you meet me next Saturday at 12 noon. You show me what you got and I'll show you what I got. And I made the most strangest, now remember I'm talking to him on the phone, he called me. And I made the most strangest look and I said, what you got? You know, cause it put me in shock, cause I thought, Lord, what, if he has something then that goes to show. Well, I arrived that following Saturday. Uh, he opened the door for me. I walked in. He told his little girl, you know, to go on to the room, to her bedroom.

• 20:42Speaker 05

  And, uh, anyways, I, I sat down and he showed me the, the pictures that you get like at Walgreens, you get them, uh, what, developed. And come to find out, he said, Selena, these things have been here for years. He said, my mom and poppa lived right beside me, to my mother's left and to my right. We've tore the house down now because they've passed on. He said, but my mom and poppa lived up there in a house. And he said, she would call me so many times, saying, grandson, hurry, get up here. I can hear them out there talking. I can't understand them, but they're in my garbage. Hurry, get up here.

• 21:24Speaker 05

  And he said, he finally bought a spotlight where he could get, you know, get up there quicker and see better. And he said, he would see them running away. And he said, here is the pictures, and it was pictures of, of fourteen inch footprints, seventeen inch footprints, uh, twenty-two inch footprints, and bamboo all throughout the yard. They had tore this bamboo down, like just stepped on it and just, well, if anybody knows anything about bamboo, you cannot break it with your hands for anything. In Alabama, we make homemade fishing poles and we have to saw them things. Uh, it, they're just not breakable by hand.

• 22:08Speaker 05

  Uh, and so he, he showed me the pictures of the yard and they had destroyed. All this bamboo just stepped on it like it wasn't nothing. And, uh, I was so pleased, I was so pleased, way as to know that, that he confirmed, you know what I mean? That it was just nice to hear. He was so nice to hear. And, uh, I just, I seen the pictures and I just thought to myself, Lord have mercy. Well, if that don't mean at all, that ain't the end of the story. He's looking at my pictures and he sees that old shed. And he said, Selena, that shed is dilapidated. He used a word, I think it was dilapidated or something. He said, nobody goes in that old shed.

• 22:54Speaker 05

  He said, we're scared it's gonna fall in or the roof is falling in. Nobody even uses it anymore. I said, so if, if you could tell me that the Bigfoots I seen was real, then what's that in the shed? And he said, well, I know one of them looks like my granddaddy. And I said, the granddaddy that passed away? That you tore his house down? And he said, yes. And I just said, oh, my Lord, I don't know nothing about all that. You know, because I mean, I just don't know, I don't know enough about any of this to, you know, explain about ghost or why they're appearing in pictures in a shed.

• 23:34Speaker 05

  But I just so happened to catch that shed picture while I was, you know, going shoulder to shoulder around the yard. Real quick, you know, going click, click, click around the yard. So anyways, it was just such a confusing time. It's left me uh still shaking my head to this day. Don't, I cannot believe that I seen that. Uh, I can't believe that there's something on this earth that's that size. Uh, and when I got home and got to thinking about it, I thought, Lord, they could have busted my window, picked my car, turned it over. That's how big this thing was. That's how big this big black one was.

• 24:17Speaker 05

  Uh, the, like I said, the gray one was so malnourished, you could see every single, it looked like every rib was showing, every cheekbone. I mean, it was just so bony. Uh, and, and I use the word scrawny because in Alabama, if you're not quite heavy enough and you need some nutrition, we use the word scrawny in Alabama. But uh, it was pretty confusing ways and it still is, it still is to this day. Uh, I walked into, I walked in at Christmas to look at ju- a jewelry stoward. And women love jewelry and I use this example because it describes me to a T. I'm, I love jewelry. So I walked into a stoward near Christmas.

• 25:01Speaker 05

  And the first thing I wanted to do was look at all those cases of jewelry, you know, rings. I love rings. So out of the corner of my eye, instead of looking at the rings, something black uh come out of the corner of my eye, it was one of those large uh tile safes that was behind their desk and all, uh and it was one of those big tile wall safes. But that goes to show you that you don't get over this kind of thing like. I I had jewelry on my mind at Christmas and and here I am, you know, uh focusing on a safe behind the. Cash registers and stuff, you know, it's crazy. So uh.

• 25:43Speaker 05

  It's left an impression and and I wanted to know more. I I started looking and watching every documentary, every. Channel I could on this. I didn't understand it. Um. It's just confusing to me that something could be that large. And uh, so that's where we're at now is if I got on here. I I asked people on a show, I it was my very first time ever been on YouTube. And I said, can somebody please tell me if you have ever seen, and I described what it looked like. And then it's been a little over three months since I, you know, got on there and asked that question.

• 26:24Speaker 05

  And it's been a lot of replies and a lot of people wanting to interview me. Uh, because of, you know, they, I guess, you know, it is fascinates people. But instead of fascinate me, I'll go down the road and be in the sweetest, prettiest little neighborhood. And I'll say, what some pretty houses. Look at that landscape and how pretty. And soon as it goes from the pretty little neighborhood to the trees, you know, the part of the roads that turns into trees. I start glancing side to side. It's just something that I I do, I don't.

• 27:04Speaker 05

  Uh, it does something to you mentally. I mean, you know, cause you, you know, they're there, you know, they're there. And you were one of them that made fun of the ones that I always said there was. So. I owe everybody a great big apology for that, you know, very embarrassed about it, very embarrassed that I was judgmental.

• 27:26Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I want to ask you more about the actual encounter. I have the pictures. I can post them. Some of the pictures, it looks like you captured something and some of the pictures I can't see anything. Uh, but one thing I did notice is they're zoomed in and they're cropped. And when people do that, it makes it so hard to really tell what you're looking at. Do you have the original pictures?

• 27:51Speaker 05

  Uh, I have the original photos from the day I sent them to my best friend. Thank God. Well, that's a, that's a story in itself. This was a miracle in itself. What happened was when, as soon as I got home, remember I told you I wanted to see if somebody else could see it. So I sent every single picture I took and I sent it to my best friend. Well, she and her husband looked at them and thank God they saved them because my phone tore up and it totally broke. My phone was to, I had to get a new phone. So they kept all my pictures and that's what I'm telling you. You can tell where I'm zoomed in.

• 28:35Speaker 05

  Tried to look my best to see if, see if that's what I'm looking at. You know what I'm saying? I, I wished I, uh, now MK Davis, when I did my very first interview on World Bigfoot Central, Duke Sullivan had MK Davis go in there and take some blur out because all the, all the trees and everything, everything was green. Like there, it was so green and it's like they were blending in with everything. And so thank goodness MK went in there, you know, he made that one in the shadows that I told you was so large. This big black one in front of me though, nobody will ever understand the impact of that one. I'm gonna send you all the copies of the very original photos.

• 29:19Wes Germer?

  Yeah, please do. I would love to see them. And I think it would help, you know, because M K Davis, when he edited these, he cropped them and then zoomed in on them. And they kind of look like smudges. I mean, a lot of the pictures look like smudges. So it kind of ruined it. And I'm not beating him up for it. He's a great video guy. I'm not so sure that photos are his forte. But I would absolutely love to see them. And I could tell you were kind of frantic when you were taking these pictures. Just from the motion of taking them.

• 29:52Speaker 05

  Look, I don't like to admit I'm a weak woman, but I was a weak woman that day. I was telling myself I was shaking, couldn't breathe. I'm not kidding. And I was trying to put my own car in reverse and I have drove a car since I was 15. Tell me what that's about. You know what I mean? It's crazy.

• 30:11Wes Germer?

  Yeah, and I don't doubt the encounter one bit, Ms. Selena. Again, I would love to see those pictures. You know, the one that, one of the pictures that really captured my attention was the one at the barn. I remember looking at it. I think the face is towards the bottom. I remember sitting there going, that doesn't look like a Sasquatch. That looks more like a ghost. Did, did the homeowner tell you the story behind that?

• 30:37Speaker 05

  You know, there's two faces that near the bottom of the ladder. But at the top of the ladder, like quite a bit ways above those two, is a man standing there in a white cowboy hat. I don't know if you've seen that or not, but it's very visible. You just have to zoom your eyes in and look and you'll see a big old white cowboy hat. Well, that's the one that I guess looked like his granddaddy. So it was so crazy hearing that, you know?

• 31:03Wes Germer?

  The one that looks more like his grandfather, did he describe it more like a ghost or more like a Sasquatch?

• 31:11Speaker 05

  He just said it looked like his granddaddy. That's all he said about the picture of the, he said, nobody ever goes in there anymore. And that looks like my granddaddy. So I'm assuming, you know, he means the cowboy hat because that's the one I just told him. Look at this one. There's three pictures or three faces in, in that little shed. I keep wanting to say barn. I'm, I'm not used to saying the word shed. But there's three faces in the shed, Wes, and the one, the one at the very bottom is the most visible. Did you see the cheekbones on that thing? It's crazy.

• 31:49Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it's very strange. Kind of looks like an old man. Um, let me ask you. So you pull up and you see this big black one and then you see the gray one. Um, and at some point you were snapping pictures. Did you actually get out of the car?

• 32:06Speaker 05

  No, absolutely not. I did not. Uh, as soon as I see the big black one, now keep in mind, I grabbed for my phone and when I grabbed for my phone is when I looked up in the gray one, the teeny tiny little skinny. It's like you wanted to feed it. It looked pitiful. It was the most pitiful looking thing. And you can tell its cheekbones when you look at those pictures. If you zoom in, uh, close enough, you can see its cheekbones and the deer antlers on its forehead.

• 32:36Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I don't know if I got that one.

• 32:39Speaker 05

  I'm gonna go and, uh, have my best friend send you the original pictures before I even touched them. You know, trying to zoom in and make sense of what I seen. I know I messed them up, but she's got the originals. So thank goodness for my best friend holding on to those originals.

• 32:57Wes Germer?

  Yeah, please do. Please do. I would love to see them, uh, Ms. Selena. And again, you know, there's no pressure here. I'm not the judge, jury and executioner of people's encounters by any means. Um, tell me, so when you pull up and you see the black one and this little gray one, about how far away from you are they?

• 33:18Speaker 05

  This is what I say and I am not good. You know what, like, you know how men say I shot a deer from so and so feet? Well, I'm not good at all that. I can tell you how tall somebody is, but as far as, uh, distance, I'm not too good at that. But I will tell you this. Uh, it's like that thing I seen in my sky. I said it was not as long or large as a yellow scuba. It was the size more of a, a smaller yellow scuba. But this reminded me the distance of a 50 yard dash I run in school. That's the way I connected how far it was from me. So, uh, now keep in mind, in the

• 34:01Speaker 05

  pictures, you can see the Bronco and you can see the Harley. And I'm sitting right there behind that Harley. Under that shed, you know what I mean, under the carport shed. So, that's what I told you, it's like a fifty yard dash kinda thing, it's like that's how, that's the distance I related to. Because I'm not very good at feet or anything, um. It was just, it was a sight, it was a sight, and, and the fact that. I'm just, I don't know, I'm still just sitting here today shaking my head, uh, that it still happened, I mean. I thought I was seeing things so much that I took and tried to clean the inside of my windshield.

• 34:43Speaker 05

  That's how bad this thing, I said, am I, am I seeing things, and I tried to clean my windshield, that's the first thing I did. Was tried to clean my windshield to see if maybe it was something on the inside of my windshield. Uh, and I thought, no, that ain't going away, it's still standing there really still, it's, it's not moving. But I wished you could see my face for the simple fact of, I would show you, uh. What they, the big one's hair looked like, uh, it covered its whole face like its hair was hanging over. You couldn't see a line on its face, a cheek, an eye, a nose, you couldn't see nothing.

• 35:24Speaker 05

  All of its hair was so long and hung down over its face, but yet that little gray one. I can detail it to a, to a T, uh, it was the strangest thing, but I'm serious that. That I've not even seen walls that was as tall as this big black thing, that, that's what I'm telling you, it was so scary. I thought, why in the world, and they ain't moving, they're just standing there. And if I wouldn't have seen the, uh. Split between, you know, the big black one's legs, with its legs, uh, split between them, you know, at the bottom. Uh, where its feet are, I would have never, I, I would have thought, Lord have mercy, is it something covered up with a black cloth or?

• 36:08Speaker 05

  What is it, you know, it took me a little while. And then, of course, when I glanced back up to take that picture of that big. Black one, there's the little gray one with it with a little deer antlers on its head. And I had a tough time with that one, too, because I I couldn't understand why I had seen something that ain't supposed to even, you know, be around. And yet, at the same time, I saw something that looks even more odd, which is it wearing deer antlers on its head as if it had made it some kind of deer or headpiece, you know, uh.

• 36:43Wes Germer?

  So you're about fifty yards, about a hundred and fifty feet away from this thing, actually, these two things. Um, and and you're saying the large one kind of had his hair down. It was hard to make out his face.

• 36:55Speaker 05

  The hair was thick and this body was so thick. I actually compared, I have a ginger, a rescue. She's a year and a half, but she's real tall and skinny. Well, when she jumps up, she jumps right there at my hips. And I said, I swore to you that this thing was like two gingers across the shoulders. And I know that sounds silly. You'd have to say ginger to know what I mean, but that's how I described it. Uh, it's just amazing at this thing's weight, the mass, the ju- the size of this thing. I I that's why I have a hard time and uh, and that's why I feel so bad because

• 37:36Speaker 05

  I I was one of those that made fun of people, you know, and now I feel like I need to apologize to the world about it. You know what I mean?

• 37:44Wes Germer?

  Yeah, no apologies necessary, Miss Selena. You know, I I've learned over the years that you no one can really offend you. You can only allow yourself to be offended. Um, let me ask you, the the smaller one who didn't have all the hair on his face and uh, you kind of got a better look at this thing. Would you kind of describe the gray one? What what kind of thing stood out to you? And did it remind you more of a human?

• 38:12Speaker 05

  Uh, it did. And let me tell you why. Oh, and and and I'm sorry if this offends anybody, but this is the closest thing that I can think of that this thing reminded me of.

• 38:27Speaker 05

  Have you ever walked into a nursing home, a convalescent center? And a person can't keep weight on them, like they're so, they're, they eventually have to feed them with tubes and stuff cause they just can't keep weight on them. This thing was like a little tiny, maybe, I wanna say about five foot, that's as high as it would go. I'm serious, it was so little and it was so bony. And it's little, everything was bones. I mean, you could even see collarbone, everything was bones, uh cheekbones. And then on the head, it didn't have a bunch of hair, that's, these two were so totally opposite.

• 39:06Speaker 05

  The big black one, it was all hair and all hugeness and mass and, and just big and huge and so black. I mean, to know that something could be that black is crazy. Uh, but anyways, the little gray one, it didn't have much hair. I do remember that because it looked almost bald. And I actually went back a couple of months of, uh, on my show and I said, I actually asked that question. Has anybody ever seen one without much hair, like this little gray one? It didn't have much hair, but it had the deer antlers sitting on them, you know, little head, headpiece. Um, but no, you could see every, um, well, I say every, you know what I mean?

• 39:48Speaker 05

  Noticeable bone, noticeable rib cage, noticeable cheekbones. And, uh, it was just pure bones. It was pitiful compared to that other one. Like I said, the big black one was nothing, I'm telling you, it was just pure hair and, and just pure hugeness. And that's all I know to you. And if it wouldn't have been for its legs and feet, I mean, that's how much hair this thing was so thick with hair. And it was so big that if I wouldn't have seen its legs split, you know, like a human stance. If I wouldn't have seen the split between the legs, I'm telling you, it was so full of dark. Jet black. And I, I remember thinking, how black.

• 40:32Speaker 05

  Lord, how black and how big. And so, uh, those are things that stood out to me, but yet in, in the little gray one. It was, you know, that it was so tiny and malnourished. It made me feel plum sorry for looking at it, but they did not approach at all. West, they just stood there still like statues. They just stood there so still. Well, see, that even scared me more because. You know, when you see something standing there looking at you that looks strange and, and there's no. Movement or nothing, it's just an eerie feeling. At least if they'd have come towards me, I'd have at least, you know, knew right then, hey, hey, get out of here, you know, but. It was a strange feeling, the whole thing was.

• 41:17Speaker 05

  If I could be mad at myself over one thing. My eyes. As I get older, I have to zoom in a lot. That's probably why you're getting a lot of zoomed in pictures. Uh, to, to read, you know, like little writing and stuff. Well. I absolutely. I said, I, I just have to make sure that I zoom in to a lot of stuff. And so I wanted to make sure that I zoomed in to this picture. Uh, when I took it, so I could see good. And I had no idea that it ruined pictures, but I was so mad at myself for not hitting record. If I could do anything over again.

• 41:58Speaker 05

  That's the one thing that I would do is hit record instead of photos. But the writing was so te tiny at the bottom of my phone. You know, when it gives you the options of photos or videos or. The other options, the writing was so te tiny and I had it already set on photos. Because when I do any serves, that's the first thing I gotta do. Is make sure I take pictures of the mailbox, the house, or. I have to give a very detailed description of the person I'm serving. They, the company I work for makes very sure that you're serving the right person. Let's put it like that. I have to describe people from A to Z. Right down to moles or pierced ears, you know.

• 42:43Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm right there with you, Ms. Selena, on eyesight. You know, I went to the eye doctor about a year ago. And after the test, she was like, so did, who dropped you off here? I'm like, no one dropped me off here. She's like, you drove here? I'm like, yeah, I drove here. She was like, oh, my. Okay. Well, I wouldn't recommend driving until you get, until you get these glasses. So I, I'm with you. I don't have the greatest eyesight. The picture I'm looking at is with a, looks like a Bronco and a Harley. Where are they at in the picture?

• 43:21Speaker 05

  Yes, if you'll look, that's when they started coming out. I mean, I'm serious, really. That's when they started walking out. If you'll look, there is a beautiful, what I call a beautiful green meadow. So if you will look towards that beautiful, bright green grass, you'll follow them right through there. I mean, they come right through there on that beautiful green meadow grass. Between, between the shed and the tree line is what I mean. It's right between the shed and the tree line. When you're looking at the carport, you're looking at the Harley and the Broncos right beside each other under the carport. You look straight back and you can see them at the tree line back there. Behind the beautiful green patch of grass.

• 44:06Speaker 05

  And that's when they're at a distance. That's when they're at a distance. So I'm telling y'all that these things was ever were.

• 44:14Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. Before I do, you know, when you were looking at the, the very large black one, and I don't know why, and I, and I know that you don't know why, but why, why do you think he didn't hurt you? I mean, you guys are relatively close.

• 44:30Speaker 05

  I think that they stepped out, but this is what I told in my very first interview, and I've still told it since because I firmly believe this way. I believe that they stepped out to let me know because they seen me sitting there for a while. And they knew that the people that lived at the house weren't home and they knew the sun across the road, right there on the same piece of property, but right there across from the parents wasn't home. I think they stepped out to let me see them so they would know, you know, so I would know that they're watching over that property. I felt it from, since it happened. I said, they didn't, they didn't, excuse me, they didn't, they didn't even approach me at all.

• 45:12Speaker 05

  They stood still like statues, so still that it made me doubt my own judgment. And that's when I went back the next day. I had, I could have reassigned that job and been done with it. Not had to waste any more gas money, anything, you know what I'm saying? They would have assigned it to another server, uh, or went on to a deputy from there. If they don't accept it from me, I have to send a deputy out there. So I tell them all the time on the phone, please accept it from me because you'll get embarrassed if a deputy pulls up at your house. Anyways, uh, but it was just a, I don't know. It was one of those things like who goes to a place four days in a row until something

• 45:57Speaker 05

  happened? That's how pretty this drive was and I didn't mind driving it. Uh, I just didn't mind driving it. It was a beautiful drive, you know, just an old country road, you know, and, uh, down some little bit of curves and, uh, you know, you had to make quite a few turns because it was way back the country. But, uh, I, did you happen to see the one hanging on to the Hudson West? Did you notice that one?

• 46:24Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I'm not sure that I saw that one. And, and I don't want you to think I'm beating, beating you up on your pictures. I felt like I am. I think, you know, I think it's cool you took pictures anyway, uh, especially in the situation you were in. I'll definitely have to look through these. I, again, it would help more with the originals than these cropped out, zoomed in pictures because for me it's hard to see really what's in some of the pictures and some of the pictures it does look like you captured something. What made you think that there was others around? Was that more like a survival thing from this job?

• 47:01Speaker 05

  I don't know. I, I still can't explain that. Uh, actually, nobody has asked me that yet. Uh, actually, when I, uh, it's, it's actually good that you asked me that. I don't know what happened. I just thought if there's two in front of me, what if I try to leave and there's some behind me? See, when I say this thing was big, Wes, I don't think people realize how big these things can get. I mean, if, if these things get any bigger than the one I seen, then, then, then the human race could be in a lot of trouble. And I hate to talk like that, but that's how scary this was.

• 47:42Speaker 05

  Uh, when, when you've got something standing in front of you that, that's only supposed to exist on movie screens through special effects, you know, and you've got it standing there. And it, you know, you're like, what is going on here? What, what am I looking at? Okay. Did I make a mistake? Did somebody do this as a joke? Is this a hoax and they're just trying to, you know, trick people's eyes when they first pull up? I mean, I played with my own brain for the longest. I was, like I said, and I know I'm pretty sharp. I mean, I, you gotta be, you, you can't do this job and not be, you know what I mean?

• 48:18Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I would imagine in that line of work, you have to be sharp and you have to be really on your toes. Uh, I would imagine it's a very dangerous type of work to do. Uh, you know, people get shot at, you're serving papers to people who don't want them. Uh, so I get it. Let me ask you, when you pulled up and you saw this big black one and this gray one, what did you think you were looking at?

• 48:43Speaker 05

  I didn't know at first because I thought maybe somebody had just put big cardboard up in the backyard trying to hoax or, you know, I didn't know. At first I thought, what in the world? That's why I grabbed my camera in the first place. Is to take a picture of that big black one. Well, by the time I got my camera off the, the rubber thing that hangs on the windshield, the phone holder. By the time I got my cam, my phone off of it to take a picture, there was that little Gray one beside it. So see, I thought, Lord, what if these people just trying to trick people into thinking that, you know, cause a lot of people have those cardboard cutouts these days, you know? And if it wouldn't have been for this thing's size and the amount of hair

• 49:28Speaker 05

  and this thing's shoulders, and then all of a sudden, like I said, that gray one popping up beside it. But they just stood there. And I thought to myself, how could they just stand there? But then, in the pictures, uh, the more you study them, the more you'll see what I mean. The one in the kudzu. I, I actually think they have a way of cutting their hair, trimming their hair some way. But, and I'm sorry, I'm so country, by the way, hair, but anyways. Uh, they, I think they have a, a way of cutting their own hair, maybe trimming their own hair or each other's hair. Because this was the weirdest haircut I have ever seen in my life. And it, and this thing had a humongous nose.

• 50:12Speaker 05

  Well, you could see the fur, uh, you could see its hands and then the fur all the way up its body. And then you seen its face, and then you seen that straight haircut right across. Well, there was one laying down trying to hide in the grass. That one, I thought, Lord mercy, that's very apparent. Then I told you, there was the big one off in the shadows that was trying to hide, and that thing was so apparent. That's why I did the black and white mode on that thing, because I wanted to make sure I really was seeing what I thought I seen. Cause even the big black one standing back in the shadows to the left of the yard don't compare to this big black one that was in front of me.

• 50:57Speaker 05

  It was so large, it was something that you would not believe exists, you know what I'm saying? Uh, and I, my daddy, uh, when I was a girl, loved Wild Kingdom. He watched more animal shows than anybody on face this earth. My mother was a seamstress. And, uh. I'm just telling you, I've watched gorillas, their movements, how thick they are, how strong they are, how stout they are, you know, how quick and how they move. And I'm telling you that this thing did not move like that. It just appeared like a human being with so much hair, jet black, bigger than life.

• 51:38Speaker 05

  And when I say bigger than life, I mean huge, so huge that you don't want to believe that that thing of that size is standing in front of you. So it was, it's scary and it, it's, it's give me some kind of complex. Like I told you, I can't even ride through a pretty neighborhood anymore without saying, oh, how pretty. And then when it hits the part of the road that leaves the houses and hits woods again, I'm constantly looking around as I drive. I can no longer drive down the road and just enjoy my riding because I love to drive and ride, you know? But it changes everything. It changes, it really does. The way you look at things, the way you have to see things now.

• 52:21Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it affects everyone differently, but at the end of the day, it affects everyone. Um, let me ask you, I mean, here we are four or five months later. What's kind of your take on what these creatures are? And there's no wrong answer, of course.

• 52:37Speaker 05

  Okay. I honestly don't know. I'd love to give you an answer, Wes. I do not know why, you know, why they're even existing or, or how long they've existed or where they come from. I can tell you that they stood there like human man, but extra hair and so much more mass and muscle. So I do know that they stood there like a human man would stand. You know what I mean? Uh, so I just, I have no idea where they come from, what they're made of, or how they were made. I don't have any idea. I'd love to tell you yes, but no, I don't.

• 53:20Wes Germer?

  Yeah, and that's a fair answer, Ms. Selena. You know, it's so hard to really tell what these things are. You know, they do stand up like men, and sometimes they act like men with their behavior, and sometimes they act like animals with their behavior. Let me ask you, I know you went back to that property one time, and you talked to the homeowner. Have you gone back since then?

• 53:44Speaker 05

  They are no longer speaking because they don't want people to know where their where their eye at. So they're no longer speaking to me. So they invited me the one time to show me the evidence, and that's it. No more phone calls, no more anything. I've tried to reach out and communicate again, you know, just to make sure that we're still okay. I didn't mean to go there for one purpose and end up, you know, bringing all this on them, you know, and it's not professional of me to hound these people because I was there on the job. So I'm not, you know, supposed to give names or anything, and that would be very

• 54:28Speaker 05

  unprofessional. So I do not do, I don't give names. But no, they won't even, they, they showed me the evidence, they invited me the one time, and now there's no phone calls or anything.

• 54:40Wes Germer?

  Yeah, that's kind of a shame. That sucks. It'd be great to chat with the homeowner and find out, you know, kind of what they've been dealing with and what's going on there. Because, like I said, in some of your pictures, I mean, it does look like there's something there. The the barn picture, I mean, it looks like a face to me, but it looks more like a ghost than a Sasquatch.

• 55:04Wes Germer?

  Yeah, any future interviews that you do, Ms. Selena, you know, even if these guys and gals pressure you, I wouldn't say exactly where these people live, or, you know, I mean, you'll have every nut in the Bigfoot world, every Looney Tunes out there swarming these people's property, and a lot of crazy people in the Bigfoot world, for sure. I definitely wouldn't say exactly where it's at, or, you know, like you were saying, don't give names or anything. You know, if these people want to come forward, then come forward on their own.

• 55:35Speaker 05

  I haven't yet. I won't. It's just unprofessional and I do not want to upset this family anymore than I already have with all this. You know what I mean? Because I went there for one purpose and it ended up having to, well, it was gonna be a simple, earn a quick few dollars, you know, make a serve, earn a few dollars and go home. And that's not what happened. So I hate that I even confronted them with what I found, but I had to because I'm so glad I did now, because they confirmed and let me see what they had. You know what I mean? So it was just, it had to be done. It had to be done.

• 56:13Wes Germer?

  Yeah, well, I'm glad that you did. I'm glad that you came forward and shared your evidence and kind of shared the encounter. And, you know, it's one of those things to where you come across these things, people come across them, and you would think that they would attack. Because, you know, any other predator on the planet, if it comes out to face you, you're in deep trouble. You know, if you corner one, or if they have nowhere to go. And 99% of the time, these things don't attack. It seems like the only time people get hurt is when they engage with them. If you don't engage with them, for the most part, they leave you alone. They might scare you to make you go away,

• 56:55Wes Germer?

  but they're not going to harm you. And that's my opinion, of course, from eyewitness testimony. It's, I always say I don't have one in my garage I'm studying, but that's my opinion, of course. But, you know, I really appreciate you taking the time to come on the show and kind of share what happened to you. And I really hope that you send me the original pictures. Hopefully, I can clean them up for you, a little bit better than what was done. And I'll repost them and I'll send them to you. And I'll post the pictures that you sent to me underneath this episode. But I really enjoyed chatting with you, Ms. Lena. Thank you so much for coming on.

• 57:32Speaker 05

  Thank you so much for having me, Wes. Thank you so much.

• 57:36Wes Germer?

  And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

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